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wolfmoon1776

This is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!

drillerelite

Ha! “what’s her name, OAC or something? ” that’s great. Gotta love MSNBC chiron – 1st rally since Send her back chants 🙄

michaelh

“TRUMP HOLDING FIRST RALLY SINCE HOLDING HIS LAST RALLY”

drillerelite

Lol

Rodney Short

Wolf have you seen the video of an old man getting beat up by some young idiot jumping out of a red truck?
I am looking for a link to the whole video, Kimi has a troll on her twitter acct that insist the kid jumping out of the truck is a Trump supporter.

mollypitcher5

I can’t hear what this says but the tweets with this clip say that it disputes the narrative. Maybe you can hear it…my audio is lousy

mollypitcher5

Gilroy Garlic Festival shooter killed himself, coroner says, contradicting police version of events
Matthew Ormseth 17 hrs ago
House Dem calls Trump a ‘terrible, terrible human being’
Hundreds detained at latest protest in Moscow
The Gilroy Garlic Festival gunman killed himself, the county medical examiner concluded Friday, contradicting an earlier police account that three officers had shot him dead within a minute.
Santino William Legan, 19, opened fire at the popular food festival Sunday evening, killing three people and wounding 13 more. Police had previously said his rampage was cut short when three Gilroy policemen engaged and killed Legan in less than a minute.
The Santa Clara County medical examiner, however, said that Legan died of a self-inflicted, “intra-oral” gunshot wound, according to a spokeswoman for the medical examiner.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-shooter-killed-himself-coroner-says-contradicting-police-version-of-events/ar-AAFfJLP?ocid=st
That’s strange. They didn’t mention any other gunshot wounds from the coroners report…what’s up with that?

wolfmoon1776

Sounds to me like the medical examiner is bucking the plot. Something is falling apart here.
This whole thing has sounded like an MK shooter from the beginning, and the “suicide finish” is classic.
Medical examiner was probably getting “subtle pressure” to call it something else, but sees classic suicide and refuses to back up the “Deep Blue Murder Zone” story.
https://twitter.com/WOLFM00N/status/1157694952824102917
Just to make sure it’s big:comment image

mollypitcher5

IIRC one of the very first reports had a female saying she saw the cop jump on him and shoot him in the head….from the coroner report..so did the cop jump on him and help him commit suicide?

mollypitcher5

might add..if that’s the case..personally i can’t see anything wrong with it. Spare us the nonstop mcm stories and years long trial..

drillerelite

Omg

mandy

I’m guessing this happens because POTUS isn’t there often…
“NORAD: 3rd plane breaks temporary flight restriction over Bedminster
BEDMINSTER –
NORAD says a third small single-engine aircraft was flying into a current “no-fly” zone as President Donald Trump visits New Jersey this weekend.”
bit more at the link, including local news vid
http://newjersey.news12.com/story/40872898/norad-3rd-plane-breaks-temporary-flight-restriction-over-bedminster

andyocoregon

Guess they like that F-16 escort our government provides them, ha ha.

mollypitcher5

This is also strange to me. The 3 arrested don’t live anywhere near the area so why would they be part of the Avenues gang?
https://apnews.com/c5edb74bc51e4286969315b16fd55674?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APWestRegion
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Three suspects were arrested Friday in the fatal shooting of an off-duty Los Angeles police officer, officials said.
Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti described those arrested as the “primary suspects responsible for the murder of Officer Juan Diaz” and said they were taken into custody in the cities of Temecula and Murietta in Riverside County.
“We will always bring to justice anybody who would not only murder a police officer but anybody who would take the life of any Angeleno,” Garcetti said.
Francisco Talamantes, 23; Cristian Facundo, 20 and Ashlynn Smith,18, all of Temecula, were booked on suspicion of murder and held without bail, police said.
Diaz on Saturday was standing in line at a taco stand in the Lincoln Heights neighborhood at 1 a.m. with his girlfriend and two other males when he noticed a man vandalizing something nearby and approached him.
The man, who authorities believe is a member of the Avenues gang, left but returned a short time later with a group of other males and lifted up his shirt to display a handgun.

wolfmoon1776

OMG – that is a really good point.

mollypitcher5

It’s a bummer to question PD..after reading the accounts of gang members within the LA area police depts..it makes me have a side eye on things any of them say

gil00

The lapd was drunk. On a double date, didnt have his gun either. Shot in the back. He made a crap ton of bad choices, but he didnt pull the trigger.

gil00

Molly… the shooter had no criminal record. That was the one caught in murrieta. One caught in temecula, one in riverside. I only know that one of the other 2 had feliny possession for sales.
This happened at 2 am also. What would 3 young people fromntemecula be doing there tagging?

mollypitcher5

Right. Why would they be tagging there? Let’s say maybe they were visiting friends..one of them was tagging..they go get these 3 and somehow they do the shooting…none of it makes sense to me

gil00

Lapd did all the arrests with murrieta pd, riverside pd, and riverside sheriffs supervisory assist. We probably wont get much.
The arrest in murrieta involved 2 houses. The family had him stashed 2 doors down.

mollypitcher5

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/rep-omars-last-trip-to-africa-is-being-covered-up-because-she-wasnt-accompanied-by-her-then-husband-brother-she-was-accompanied-by-her-second-husband/
Rep. Omar’s Last Trip to Africa Is Being Covered Up Because She Wasn’t Accompanied by Her Then Husband-Brother, She Was Accompanied by Her First Husband
The Mugadisu Radio Dalsan article was about Ilhan Omar’s 2016 visit to to Somalia and her meeting with the Somali president Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. Her husband is identified as Ahmed Elmi but in fact it is Ahmed Hirsi. At the time Omar was legally married to her brother and not Hirsi. As can be seen in the image, the author of the article stripped the images from the page.
The Mugadisu Radio Dalsan 2016 article is available below with some of the recovered images showing that the person accompanying Ilhan Omar was in fact Ahmed
Hirsi traveling under the name Ahmed Elmi (she finally divorced Ahmed Elmi in 2017).

Concerned Virginian

This article and recovered images will PROVE that ILHAN “OMAR” ELMI was lying (felony perjury) on her August 2017 divorce petition from AHMED ELMI, her brother, in which she swore she had not seen him for several years and could not find him.

mollypitcher5

^^^^^^^^^^^ when is she going to be charged? Censured ? Stripped of her committees ? We’re still a nation of laws last time I looked..or is it only for us, not them?

bakocarl

I think that all Sylvia needs is a little more exercise in her life . . . with her shovel, that is. I’d bet that would do wonders for an elevated blood pressure . . . and it’s not bad for mental health, either.

andyocoregon

Maybe she just needs some fresh batteries.

drillerelite

Haaa! Takes happy caturday to a new level 😆🤣
https://share.par.pw/post/98aae2165c404ef089a5372652dbf85a

drillerelite

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andyocoregon

This over 40 minute video is long, but really good, IMO. I played in in the background in another window while surfing the web this morning. It’s refreshing to hear the truth told about LGBTQ garbage for a change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOu7izEUhYM

andyocoregon

Pity the poor residents and visitors to Las Vegas today. Not only will it be 109 degrees today and they’re still dealing with a plague of locusts, they have to endure the Demonrat candidates descending on their city as well. It’s the Perfect Storm, I tell ya.
https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/local/democratic-presidential-candidates-descend-on-las-vegas-public-service-forum/article_37e9015c-b586-11e9-8113-8f979920220b.html

Covadonga

Only two problems, Andy. Summer heat, and the other thing.
Democrat candidates and plague of locusts are the same problem. There’s too many of them, and they all want to live on something for free.

andyocoregon
drillerelite
kea

Epic!!!!!!

NebraskaFilly

Gotta get ready for work – have a great Caturday, everyone!

mandy

Have a great day, NF!

andyocoregon

Work!

Volgarian8301

Fox reporting mass shooting at Wal-Mart in El Paso…these bastards are ramping it up😡

TheseTruths

Q warned us.

Volgarian8301

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Volgarian8301

Possibly more than 1 shooter

Volgarian8301

andyocoregon

MSM always claims “possibility of multiple shooters” at these shooting incidents. Almost always it comes down to just one shooter eventually.
Maybe the other shooters were police?

Volgarian8301

There’s already been interviews with “eyewitnesses”, all calm….and the scene is still active???
I smell a big pile of DemonCRAP

Rodney Short

They know they cant beat Trump in 2020 so now they are going batshit crazy to get every gun in America.

Volgarian8301

They were already BatShit Crazy. They are proving it every day.

Rodney Short

Amen

TheseTruths

I was thinking the same thing about it always coming down to one shooter. I think there often is more than one, that it’s all part of the plan, and that they cover it up.

gil00

News says there is one 21 yr old in custody.

Aubergine

I found this:
“A family of three was one of a dozen waiting outside a local bus station, trying to get back to their car, in blocked-off Walmart parking lot.
‘I heard the shots but I thought they were hits, like roof construction,’ said Adriana Quezada, 39, who was in Walmart with in the women’s clothing section with her two children.
She said she saw four men, dressed in black, wearing shirts, moved together firing guns indiscriminately.
‘I saw four men, shooting everywhere,’ Quezada said.
‘I told my son, those are gunshots.’
Her daughter, 19, and son, 16, threw themselves on the ground, then ran out of the Walmart through an emergency exit. ”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7317905/El-Paso-police-say-theres-active-shooter-local-mall.html
Not the greatest source, but it is a direct quote.

Volgarian8301
TheseTruths

I saw a report that someone said their mother was killed. I don’t know what’s accurate.

Volgarian8301

I saw that too, after this twit posted this tweet. The scene is supposedly still active, so they don’t know extent and severity of injuries yet

andyocoregon

NBC affiliate reports 18 people shot.

Harry Lime

Yeah…this is bad…confirmed fatalities…at least one suspect in custody…still a fluid situation…

Volgarian8301

Twitter is busy trying to develop that narrative. Reading through the thread, it is so glaringly obvious. Even trotting out Betaboy to comment

andyocoregon

So that idiot is saying police (good guys with guns) can’t stop a shooter? What a dolt.
Maybe he’s forgetting most shopping malls are Gun Free Zones these days and open carry would not be allowed on that private property despite Texas laws.

TheseTruths

I’m not sure about the mall, but in my experience, Walmart allows at least concealed carry. Reports are that the shooting was at the Walmart.

MAGA Mom

Texas may be an open carry but that does not mean each of these stores are open or even concealed carry. We carry buy not into many stores or the library or the mall, etc.
We need to know about these specific businesses. How many times do I leave my gun under my seat or not carry at all because not allowed where I am going? Avoid many places that don’t allow and choose our restaurants that do allow but some places we need to go and they don’t allow.

kalbokalbs

Businesses in Texas can hang a sign and make their property / business “gun free zone”.
Open carry has limits. Just as CCW has limits.

Volgarian8301

Amazing that El Paso and Cielo Vista are in the #1 trending spot on twitter….already…..🙄

TheseTruths

Here’s a completely cynical and calculating thought: It’s Beto’s territory, and his campaign needs a shot in the arm (no pun intended).

Volgarian8301

I thought the same….especially since they already trotted him out to comment. I’ve become quite jaded in my perception but these demons will stop at nothing

TheseTruths

“these demons will stop at nothing”
Yes. Innocent lives are collateral damage. I first came to realize it about HRC, and gradually my realization spread to the bigger Leftist agenda. I believe they’re getting desperate, so it will get worse.

drillerelite

Ain’t that the truth, no pun intended

andyocoregon

If any of the presstitutes deserved to be suspended for 30 days, it was this big mouthed weasel.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/playboy-reporter-brian-karem-says-wh-has-suspended-him-over-rose-garden-clash

churchmouse

Thank you for the link.
On that topic, this is unbelievable, yet so true:

Dora

Looks like fun!

TheseTruths

Almost like being shot out of a cannon!

kea

I think I am spending too much time in this tree. I just had a tree frog hop past me. Yes I went frog chasing. Finally caught him and brought him back outside!!!!!!!!

TheseTruths

The Dems need a hot-button issue to kick-start their flailing campaigns. Presto: gun control and SAFETY!

Harry Lime

Agenda Free TV live stream of scanner activity at Texas Walmart shooting…

andyocoregon

Why does so much news media continue to report the shootings took place in WalMart? The incident is at the Cielo Vista Mall, the large complex in the above picture, while WalMart is the smaller building a city block away.

Harry Lime

I’m hearing all of the shootings took place inside the Walmart…

andyocoregon

Yeah, it’s crazy. There’s a ton of misinformation any time these things occur.

Harry Lime

…or “at” the Walmart I should say…

Volgarian8301

I saw a video of people laying in front of Wal-Mart. More than 1 location?

Harry Lime

Yeah…I just saw that…pretty gruesome.

notasmidgeon

I saw that also but cannot find it now. It was a Walmart parking lot.

drillerelite

This one? Graphics WARNING

Volgarian8301

That’s a different one from the people laying in the parking lot, but did you notice the shopper walking IN pushing the cart, texting on the phone? ….while shooting victims are brought in??? That is Twilight Zone stuff

drillerelite

Oh duh, I thought I was posting this one,

Volgarian8301

Here is the one in front of Wal-Mart

drillerelite

Yep, that’s the video.

TheseTruths

I like watching that RSBN source. He is watching multiple sources and he reports news as he gets it. He does not speculate and let you know if something is unconfirmed.

Volgarian8301

Yep

Alison

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kalbokalbs

A few days ago, not more than a week, Antifa, or like scum bag organization was blathering about shutting down border crossings at El Paso/ nearby crossing.
Forgot their reported time line.
Out plinking at the moment. Will look for those reports after getting back home.

kalbokalbs

Link addressing Antifa “promoting and encouraging” action at border crossings…”10 day siege, 1 Sep, El Paso.
Probably unrelated.
*https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/30/report-andy-ngo-antifa-siege-el-paso-texas-resistance/

wolfmoon1776

No, there is some relation, IMO. Same with that asshole David Hogg showing up there ahead of time.

grandmaintexas

I knew shit was gonna go down in TX:
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1157725823937449986

gil00

Q gave us a 24 hr warning. Took 72 or so.

grandmaintexas

People need to pack. Walmart allows I believe. I’ve seen wonderful people pack in my local store.

drillerelite

The last time someone opened fire in a walmart here a few years ago, Thornton I think, the store cameras showed several shoppers pulling out their guns.
I found it, the Denver post was perturbed at those pesky armed shoppers of course 😠
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/02/shoppers-pulled-weapons-walmart-shooting/

grandmaintexas

Nice. 😄 The Twitter left is, as usual, out of their minds right now. GUN. CONTROL. AT. ALL. COSTS.

drillerelite

Of course they are, almost giddy over it if you ask me.

grandmaintexas

Tensions are high, right where Satan wants them to be. But he can go to Hell. 😄

drillerelite

😆, yes he can!

CM in TN

People carry at the ones near me in TN.

grandmaintexas

There are twits on Twitter saying you can’t carry in Wal-Mart. I’m trying to correct.

Covadonga

There was an ExxonMobil chemical plant or refinery in Texas in the news with a fire within the 24 hour period we were warned about.
Don’t know if it was a normal industrial accident, or something suspicious. But there have been an abnormal number of refineries in the Gulf Coast experiencing fires or explosions in the last few years, imo.

Covadonga

Yeah, this was in Baytown, TX, during the day, Wed 7/31. Heard about it before the 2nd night of the Detroit joker jamboree.
Q’s 24 hr false flag warning went out late Tues 7/30, just before midnight ET, after the first night of the joker jamboree.
Again, it might have been un unrelated industrial accident, but needs looking into.

Volgarian8301

And right on cue….all the Demons call for gun control

andyocoregon

In response to Nasty Nadler….

LM

Every time one of these events occurs it firms my resolve to get a concealed carry license.
I never want to be helpless against these monsters. I think even a lot of leftists, in their heart of hearts, feel the same way.
The lights might go on if we had the discussion, “What would you do if……?”

drillerelite

I really need to get on that as well.

michaelh

I gotta say, they are VERY WELL PROGRAMMED!!!

Volgarian8301

Better than a Swiss watch🙄

TheseTruths

The Dems, who want to let in all manner of criminals, drug dealers, and terrorists, want us to believe they’ll “protect” us. It would be laughable if it didn’t have such tragic consequences.

CM in TN

Remember, when they come for your guns, give them all your ammo first…

Volgarian8301

😁

Volgarian8301

Heard 1 in custody…21yo male, no other info….🤔

michaelh

Note to self…
Picked up chocolate milks to treat my kids during lunch. They loved it.
But the war against chocolate milk really makes me angry.
Michelle Obama’s school lunch program was so absurd and ridiculous.
Do you know why schools serve lunches? Hmm?
Well, first of all we’re talking about public schools. So there’s the problem of “public” institutions again, but I digress…
Because they were “public” they were the schools that all the poor kids would go to. Including all the kids from the wrong side of the tracks.
Think back before the 1950s. Think 1930s, depression era. Think 1910’s and 1920’s. Think of a time when being “poor” didn’t mean the same thing as a “poor” person today wearing Air Jordan’s to school.
These kids would come to school without lunches. The reality was that they were malnourished, and no kid can learn when they don’t have their basic dietary needs met.
The purpose of school lunch programs was to make sure the poorest of the poor kids who were malnourished would at least get one good meal a day, and at least one good meal that would give them what they needed to be productive students.
Chocolate milk was part of that too, because many kids would refuse to drink milk. There are lots of reasons why, suffice to say that we are spoiled today at the quality and flavor of milk that America’s great Dairy farmers produce.
But this was a big problem for kids who were not getting sufficient calories or nutrients. The extremely simple and brilliant solution was to flavor the milk with a bit of cocoa, hence chocolate milk. The added sugar and cocoa was insignificant compared to the nutritional benefits that came with getting malnourished children to add milk to their diet.
Flash forward, and American agricultural and economic production has made Americans the most prosperous people in the world.
So prosperous, that some people WANT THEM PUNISHED.
And that’s where Michelle Obama’s school lunch program comes in.
Jettison all the original reasons for the school lunch program. Prevention of malnutrition in underprivileged students was no longer the goal. NOPE! Now we are going to use it to combat the epidemic childhood obesity! [cf. the book “Diabesity” which is considered gospel among a certain segment of leftists.]
“Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
If necessary, invent one.
Of course, it’s not about intentions (stated intentions) but about outcomes.
The real goal with the program was primarily about social engineering and social control.
Start with school children, and their parents. Push hard a set of different ideas on diet. By hard, I mean in Typical Obama-Fascist style, make them MANDATORY, without any opportunity for RELIEF or DEVIATION. No religious exceptions, no OPT-IN (Hahahaha!!!!), and certainly NO OPT-OUT.
If a kid brings his lunch from home, it MUST pass the check of the FOOD INSPECTOR GESTAPO or the lunch will be confiscated.
Parents? You have no choice. Forget about it. You are clueless rubes. We’re doing it in the best interests of the children don’t you see (snicker snicker). We have the POWER, we have the CONTROL, you do NOT have power over you’re own kids or any choice over what they can or can’t eat, AND DON’T YOU FORGET IT!
It was never about “nutrition”. That was just a ruse. A distraction. A fig-leaf of justification to convince you and others to give up your rightful autonomy – to give them more power and control. They convince you because they “are doing it in the public (communist) interest” and they are doing it “for the children” (so the next generation can be controlled).
Get parents and kids acclimated to a simple notion: The public schools (the government) has a rightful need to regulate how children eat for public health reasons.
Which becomes: The government should have control over how you eat, in the interest of public (communist) health.
Which becomes the government has a right to monitor what you eat, how you eat, when you eat, how much you eat.
A right to tell you to see your Medicare assigned doctor to prescribe changes to your “approved diet”.
They will lie that they are doing what’s best for your health!
The lie is that YOU won’t take responsibility for your own health and diet – and that the government should do it for you! (TO CONTROL YOU)
Get kids and parents accustomed to having REDUCED CALORIE MEALS and poorer nutrition.
Sell it by CONVINCING PEOPLE that “we all should stop eating so many calories” – good old liberal moralizing and guilt shaming. Take a half-truth and use it to justify government intervention!
Churn out a new generation of parents and students (leftist indoctrination targets) who believe that people eat too much and the government should intervene.
Start requiring restaurants to post calorie counts on every menu, so that you are constantly reminded of the leftist calorie dogma.
Eliminate cow farts – eliminate ranching and all animal based agriculture to reduce the meat supply.
Eliminate natural gas distribution in areas, so that more people have to rely on electrical power for cooking.
Put smart meters on every home, so that the electrical usage can be monitored AND CONTROLLED.
Make sure everyone has an electric vehicle rather than gasoline or diesel, to make them more dependent on the electrical grid.
Then reduce the reliability of the electrical grid. Make it harder for people to cook their own meals.
Raise minimum wage to $15 per hour, which will put every restaurant except the most exclusive and expensive permanently out of business.
Offer the people grain and soy, Soylent style. The same kinds of things that we would currently feed livestock.
Hit the people with a constant never-ending stream of dietary health propaganda from the usual MCM sources. The constant never-ending BAD NEWS about how our diets are killing us, we’re obese, that we are irresponsible people, that science (via a quasi-evolutionary fairy tale) shows us that human persons cannot make healthy dietary choices and must have medical (government) intervention.
Keep ratcheting down the standard for what is a “healthy” lifestyle, body type or diet. Make it virtually impossible to meet new standards on BMI. Start tying medical advice to scientifically questionable measurements like BMI.
Tie medical insurance coverage and rates to the new government standards for dietary monitoring, dietary intake, and body type. Punish people Obama-Fascist style for deviation.
Control, control, control.
Please sir, can I have some more?
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!
Eat your D*** APPLE!
And TAKE YOUR MEDICINE.
It’s for your own good.
It’s for your own good.
It’s for our own good.

drillerelite

Just a quick lil note to self? Can’t imagine what a diary entry must be like 😳😄

andyocoregon

Fake News CNN reports multiple victims dead and 3 suspects in custody.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/el-paso-tx-shooting-live-updates/index.html

Volgarian8301

ABC is too…probably sharing

andyocoregon

Typical incorrect info from CNN and ABC.
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick officially announced 1 shooter in custody, a 21 year old male.

gil00

Antifa???

mandy

I dunno, seeing talk of the shooter having posted a “manifesto” that says he agrees with the Christchurch shooter and this is in response to the invasion of TX by hispanics….

andyocoregon

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick was just interviewed by phone on Fox News and he made it very clear Antifa was not welcome in El Paso or Texas for that matter. He was very adamant about telling them to stay the hell away from there. He sounded quite angry as he said those things. Good!

gil00

There are multiple chapters accirding to fakebook.

michaelh

NON-VIOLENCE
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*https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/21635-the-communist-pedigree-of-the-clenched-fist-salutecomment image

gil00

Planning this!
Correction: While various antifa-related groups have promoted and encouraged this event, there is insufficient evidence to say antifa is “planning” the event. That language has been removed and clarified.
A far-left movement is reportedly planning a “siege” of El Paso, Texas, in an attempt to raise awareness of alleged abuses at the U.S.-Mexico border. Their promotion poster features explicit depictions of violence, including what appears to be an ICE officer lying dead on the ground, riddled with arrows.
The so-called “Border Resistance” exercise involves a “militancy training tour that will converge on a 10-day siege in El Paso, TX,” according to a tweet Monday from reporter Andy Ngo.
Andy Ngo, a Portland-based journalist, is seen covered in unknown substance after unidentified Rose City Antifa members attacked him on June 29, 2019 in Portland, Oregon. (Moriah Ratner/Getty Images)
The promotional image shows border enforcement officers being killed & government property fire bombed. Organizers are asking for “white comrades to pay for others.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/30/report-andy-ngo-antifa-siege-el-paso-texas-resistance/

Volgarian8301

IDK WHO this guy is, but note the mention of 8chan….

mandy

What’s the “banned domain where Q posts?”
Because I just read that that is where it was posted. ??? Anyone understand that?

Harry Lime

What a coincidence…just hours after the FBI releases a report about conspiracy theoerists being possible violent terrorists. Makes you go hmmmmmmm…..

mollypitcher5

Right on cue….because so many conspiracy theorists want to bring trouble to the very cause they believe in ???? Because people that don’t want illegal invasion and know that PTrump is fighting it want to kill a bunch of innocents to draw anger to all the ones that agree with him ?????
It makes no sense

mollypitcher5

That’s super convenient for the Demcoms.

Volgarian8301

Lots of lefty followers and following…🤔

TheseTruths

So, more than this being a safety issue for the Dems to latch onto, it looks like an attack on Q and the chans. They are going to lump Trump supporters into a group of “racist” people who are spreading hate and doing incalculable damage. They are desperate. The fact that they lie and sacrifice people like this makes me believe all the horrific reports about child trafficking, using children for youth potions, and sacrificing them.

Volgarian8301

It definitely fits their agenda, doesn’t it?

Blessed2bLoved

I live here in El Paso and it did start outside the Wal-Mart Store/Sam’s Club close to the Cielo Vista Mall, which is a very large area. It is not too far from where I live. There were also reports of multiple shots heard both at the Wal-Mart and at Cielo Vista Mall.There are at multiple fatalities and injuries confirmed. One person detained and one person in custody so far, they don’t believe there are any more shooters, but it could change at any time. We have been hearing sirens here where we live as there is a hospital nearby. It was only a matter of time, given that terrorist cells have trained across the border from us, and their presence is already here in El Paso, although the authorities have been mum about this fact. Texas Governor Greg Abbott is on his way over here. My family and I are praying…

mollypitcher5

Thanks for the local input. Stay safe

Blessed2bLoved

Thank You. We know how the Dems are going to try to use it to their advantage in calling for gun control, but most Texans are not going to agree with this. Many are ready to respond to Antifa if they indeed do plan to descend on El Paso in September. Crazy times, but God is in control. Many are praying against the forces of darkness that are recking havoc.

Volgarian8301

Stay vigilant and safe!!

Aubergine

Oh, shit. You just gave me an “aha” moment.
What if that is the reason they did this thing? To ramp up the “gun free zone” issue all over El Paso before Antifa comes to town.

andyocoregon

Fox News reported the young man whose mother was shot and killed said there was “blood and brains everywhere”.

grandmaintexas

I’m just reading the thread here, but this makes my blood boil.
The intelligence agencies are at war, right? Well, I’m sick of them assassinating innocent civilians.
How many people are our government willing to sacrifice before We the People are apprised of the situation and can respond accordingly?
Also, the photo of the perp shows him with AK-47 and just the one clip visible.
One clip holds 30 rounds. Fifty-nine people were hit. So, he had to have had at least one or two more clips IF he was the only shooter.
Why did he wear non-tactical ear protection? It looks like firing range ear protection.
The perp is from Dallas they say? Hmmm…lots of Wal-Mart’s there. Why El Paso?
I’m sure you guys have already thought of this stuff.

Volgarian8301
andyocoregon

“ear protectors” not war protectors.

mandy
gil00

Can anyone confirm rifle type? AK47?

CM in TN

It looks to be an AK type…could be AK-74 or 47. Not sure of the caliber.

drillerelite

Looks just like an AK

grandmaintexas

Yes it is.

MAGA Mom

My first thought …. Gun free zone
Searched and this is what I found. We need more info on the various locations, Walgreens, SAMs etc and screenshot their policies. I don’t know how to do this. Do you all?
https://crimeresearch.org/2019/08/yet-another-shooting-at-a-gun-free-zone-el-paso-shooting-at-cielo-vista-mall-is-apparently-in-a-place-that-banned-permitted-concealed-handguns/

andyocoregon

From that article:
“This policy is intended first and foremost to maintain a safe, secure and comfortable environment at our malls”
I wonder how many of those shooting victims felt “safe and secure” due to the Gun Free Zone rules. /s

MAGA Mom

The criminals never obey the rules as they are already lawless

andyocoregon

No kidding. Anyone willing to randomly murder multiple victims in a public setting isn’t going to worry about other rules and regulations. It’s ridiculous to think their silly Gun Free Zones could possibly stop a mass shooter. More likely, it attracts these mentally ill idiots since they may assume nobody would shoot back at them.

TheseTruths

My experience is that Walmart allows lawful carry on their premises, but maybe some don’t. So my questions are:
Is that Walmart affiliated with that Simon mall property? (I tend to think not.)
Does that Walmart allow legal carry?
Does that mall have the lawfully required signage posted to prevent carrying on their premises? (In other words, it’s one thing to state that no guns are allowed in their policies, which no one reads, but it’s a different matter to have whatever signage is required to be posted to keep guns out.)

mandy

Just saw that the “manifesto” is being reported to be a HOAX. More with links once they appear…..

mandy
Volgarian8301

It probably IS a hoax but now that it is out there, the left will be in a feeding frenzy

mandy

Aren’t the left ALWAYS in some sort of feeding frenzy….have been this way ever since POTUS won…..

Volgarian8301

Yes, but Karma and Trumps boomerang, along with God, is going to cause them to devour each other.
It’s so freaking obvious when you see calm “eyewitnesses”, people strolling out of an active shooter scene, expert commentators on hand, Twitter trending in the first few minutes….it’s evil and deranged beyond belief.

drillerelite

Wtf? How do we have a mass shooting and a hoax manifesto put up so quickly? I think I’m gonna be sick 😖

Volgarian8301

Driller they are spinning faster than a Maytag trying to frame the narrative

drillerelite

Yeah and it’s really getting old

andyocoregon

CBS News reported shooting victims both in WalMart and the Mall.
Sounds as if he ran from one place to another. I think one or two victims were shot in the parking lot between the two buildings, so that adds up.

Volgarian8301

…or there was truly more than 1 perp

Volgarian8301

And another….seems the narrative of the day is for it to be a white male. I’m shocked!!
Have not seen anything “official” other than 21yo male 🤔. You would think one of those calm witnesses would be able to give a description🙄
https://twitter.com/DP_Mems/status/1157734917138210818?s=20

MAGA Mom

I post repeatedly in comments sections on news sites that Democrat and far leftist policies are Killing our children: gun free zones and deinstitutionalization.
Lock then up! Can NOT trust pharmaceuticals to control the mentally ill from harming themselves and/or others.
Random violence is only One example. How many of the homeless encamped on the streets would be in safe, clean facilities if we institutional used the mentally ill? They are a health hazard to the entire community, fuel petty crime and contribute to drug abuse. The spread of diseases will more than the gun violence done by the mentally ill.
And, lastly, many of the Meds given to help these people can, depending on the person, make them worse and more prone to violence!!
We must fight the narrative and identify the problems correctly.
Gun free zones, dependency on the mentally ill to responsibly and reliably take their psych drugs and deinstitutionalization….
Plus the psych drugs themselves but I don’t usually argue that point as it seems to far out of most people’s grasp.
If the mentally ill were removed from the list of mass gun using killers, all mass murders in gun free zones removed and then all mass killings done Muslims motivated by their understanding of their religion … Not many plain evil criminals left and the list of mass gun using killers is pretty small.
Lock them up. Eliminate gun free zones. Stop letting the far left identify the problem otherwise!

Volgarian8301

On point!!

andyocoregon

I’ve often wondered if much of the youth mental illness is related to all the psychotropic drugs being prescribed to children these days to control normal youthful exuberant behavior rather than using discipline?

CM in TN

I think you’re right Andy. I’m in my mid 40’s and don’t remember this kind of stuff when I grew up. No ADD, ADHD, psycho meds or none of that stuff. Back then a good ass whippin’ by your dad usually straightened everything out…

gil00

There’s no video either.

gil00

He has a “I do what the voices in my head tell me to do”sticker on the wall.

churchmouse

@Volgarian re tweet cited: ‘Account suspended’.
O/T, it seems the Twitter account holder meant ‘Memes’.
‘Mems’ got my tastebuds going, because ‘nems’ means Spring rolls in Vietnamese:
http://www.gastronomydomine.com/2006/01/18/cha-gio-nems-vietnamese-crispy-spring-rolls/

mollypitcher5

Looks like the Gilroy festival shooting wasn’t what they’d hoped for so call up the next one..

CM in TN

First thing I thought as well. The first one didn’t stick, so they tried it again…

mandy

Reports from folks listening to scanners – shots being reported in various areas across El Paso now.

mandy

I’m not listening to the El Paso scanner but apparently there are TWO separate car chases going on now, too? Sheesh. Horrible.

Volgarian8301

Seeing lots of comments disparaging that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy, and where were the good guys. They are trying their best to prove their point.
Isn’t El Paso in a blue section of the state? And if so, local law would prevail?
https://forum.opencarry.org/index.php?threads/walmart-firearm-policy.81273/
Walmart
Policy is to follow the law of the state the store located.
Customer Service1-800-Wal-Mart
(1-800-925-6278) Questions regarding a Wal-Mart Store issue
702 SW 8th Street
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
Bentonville, Arkansas 72716-8611
Email contact link: http://walmartstores.com/contactus/feedback.aspx
Audio of Walmart Policy: Walmart_Firearm_Policy_Call.mp3

gil00

The photo of the suspect smiling and the walmart cam dont look so similar.
One site calls him Scotty Mendez and another Scotty Kaiser.

andyocoregon

Both reports of the shooter’s identity can very well be bogus. Nutjobs post disinformation on the internet just to mess with people.

TheseTruths
gil00

That does look like the video screenshot and not the smiling one.

Volgarian8301

I’ve seen 3 or 4 different, specific names… matches initial reports of number of assailants. Is it possible they are connected?

mandy

There are some witnesses (or folks claiming to be witnesses) out there saying they saw as many as FOUR different shooters…..

MAGA Mom

and then it always comes down to one…why?

mandy

Because the cops aren’t allowed to arrest the fedgov handlers? (sarc/not sarc)
Seriously, I do not know how that happens but we all know that it often does….

para59r

Yeah, reads that as not sarc. Too many of these incidents happen in places where the Dems are in control of the local environment.
Personally thinks a hand picked Fed Force should shadow all FBI responses for these kinds of events.

gil00

Peiple dont understand how to tell when more than one gun is firing. They hear an echo and think multiple shooters.

MAGA Mom

They report literally seeing more than one shooter and then its always back to only one – a Strong, very predictable patter.