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mandy
Sadie Slays
mandy

IF the shooter is, in fact, Patrick Crusius, then …
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/houstonchronicle/obituary.aspx?n=milton-wood-crusius&pid=943749&fhid=4250
If it’s not him, then … nevermind…

mollypitcher5

This is from My Life..I don’t know if anyone can edit anything they want on there..so it may be fake info~~
Summary
Patrick Crusius is 21 years old today because Patrick’s birthday is on 07/27/1998. Patrick’s Reputation Score is 3.08. Allen, TX, is where Patrick Crusius lives today. We know that Patrick’s political affiliation is current registered as Democratic Socialist. Ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as Maoist. Prudence Liu, Megan Liu, Melissa Liu, Susan Davis and Susan Davis, and many others are family members and associates of Patrick View All Details
Birthday: 7/27/1998
Political Party: Democrat Party
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Religion: Christian
Income: Under $10K
Net Worth: Less than $1
Relationship: Single
Kids: Info Pending…
https://www.mylife.com/patrick-crusius/e101010224329068

MAGA Mom

This info has been changed drastically on this page as it no longer matches what you quote. Do you have a screen shot?

mollypitcher5

No…just went and looked…I see that it can be changed at will

piper567

Mom, AdRem elsewhere has two screenshots where political affiliation is altered.

mandy

SUPPOSEDLY … his sister’s FB page. I cannot see it (not on FB), so y’all will have to assess….
https://www.facebook.com/emily.crusius.1

Volgarian8301

Interesting 1st post….almost a year old. People urging her to lock her page down but doesn’t look like she is very active on FB.

crossthread42

It’s freezing up, (as in attacked).. overwhelmed???
Interesting that theres a GoF-Me there about her “Dad”? that was shot,, by a “stranger”?.. About as far as I got, before the page froze.

Volgarian8301

I think her Dad set up the GFM for a friend….at least that was how I understood it. There had been only 3 donations and 1 of those was dated today

drillerelite

Also very strange…

drillerelite

Lots of friends but only a few posts, this being her latest, from last year. Emily is listed as grandchild along with Patrick in your obituary post, hmmm. Weird this was her latest…comment image

ladypenquin

OT has an article discussing Rosenstein and Mueller. Some folks are worried the Deep State players are going to get away with everything they did. Personally, I don’t believe it – POTUS said, “Never Again.” I still want to know what was discussed between POTUS, Mueller, Rosenstein, Pence in a 4 hr meeting.
Ristvan adds this:
ristvan says:
August 3, 2019 at 4:54 pm
Disagree with ‘always get away with’. I will bet you a fine dinner at a time, restaurant, and US city of your choosing that ‘they’ won’t get away with it this time. Reasons multiply explained previously. Ad Rem can hold this official bet for you. As a reasonably wealthy Treeper, I can easily make good.
The wheels of justice grind slowly (for good reason since innocent until PROVEN guilty beyond a reasonable doubt) but they also grind exceedingly fine. We may not get all the peripheral enablers like Rosenstein, but we will surely get all the main Spygate perps via the dual ongoing investigation prongs of Horowitz on FISA spying abuse and Durham on EC predicate. Sub bet on a fine bottle of US wine of your choosing for the dinner: bulletproof indictments sometime between yearend and the 2020 nominating conventions.

crossthread42
MAGA Mom

has this been verified as actually his?

crossthread42

yes as far as I know, THAT is a trust-worthy source..

mollypitcher5

People are getting kicked off twitter for reports on more than one shooter~~

kea

Didn’t Q say something about this a few days ago?

Sadie Slays

Q used the term “false flag” on 7/26 and 7/31. The last one was a warning to “stay vigilant.”

Gail Combs

I was just about to post about that if someone else did not.
I think we can expect even more false flag shootings going forward to the Election.
1. Scare the CRAP out of ordinary Americans.
2. BLAME it on President Trump
3. PROMISE to TAKE AWAY THOSE NASTY EVIL GUNS.
Remember that Loretta Lynch said we needed blood running in the streets.
Loretta Lynch – We Need More Blood On The Streets – YouTube

(If they have not deep wholed it by now.)

Sadie Slays

This is a “win or go extinct” election for the cabal.
It’s going to be worse than 2016.

piper567

widely circulated photo of kid w/headphones and AK NOT in black garb…TShirt and ?
one or the other in error.

kea
mollypitcher5

Follow the thread..people ask good questions
https://twitter.com/TribunalReport/status/1157747092401590272

gil00

That sgt is going to get in trouble.

Volgarian8301

Different person here….

kea

bakocarl

Italy to Germany: Vaffanculo!!!

kea

😉

redlegleader68

Well, Mrs. RedLeg (Italian) certainly agrees with you!!

Concerned Virginian

Sabotage on German high-speed train:
VEHICULAR JIHAD unless completely proven otherwise.

Cuppa Covfefe

The pic is of an “S-Bahn”, basically a local commuter train, which couldn’t be high-speed even if it wanted to be. Eighty MPH tops, rarely more than 60.
Interesting thing, though, is there is NOTHING on the news about this.
Nothing.
Antifa and the greens have been vandalizing coal-fired power plants, and a construction project for a new coal-fired power plant, so this could well be an extension of that. They also vandalize nuclear waste (Castor) transport, which is equally stupid. The Castor containers won’t break even in a train wreck; the trains, however, can’t stop in time to avoid the “protestors” (criminals).

kea

Now that is Interesting. When I read the headline I thought it would be an ICE train but when I saw the town I was like what where?
Antifa and the greens have been vandalizing coal-fired power plants, —–Of course they are. Ugh when will enough be enough.

mollypitcher5

Stand against hate.
From white supremacists to the radical Religious Right, right-wing extremism is on the rise. Pledge to stand against hate.
From the Right Wing Watch site…. funny how this shooting set off twitter bans, gun control, anti conservative shit………………almost like it was planned. Gilroy guy really didn’t provide SMH

gil00

They want the Christchurch response. Immediate mass confiscation and shutdown all social media. Gestapo style.

mollypitcher5

you know it

Teagan

Right on schedule with the talking points…they are disgraceful.

Sadie Slays

Stripes in the background while Robert O’Rourke smiles as he makes a statement about the El Paso shooting.comment image

Blessed2bLoved

Trust me, I am no fan or supporter of Beto O’Rouke, however, I did see this interview and the photo above is deceiving. There is so much fake news on both ends of the spectrum, so sad. Anyway, O’Rouke was showing his human side…he seemed shook up, actually holding back tears, looking down, swallowing hard and with a choked up voice he talked about just wanting to come home to his family who lives here and is grieving with all El Pasoans. This tragedy has touched many people, regardless of their background. The Governor just reported 20 people have lost their lives and many more are injured, some in very critical condition. There are some reports circulating there was actually more than one shooter, but they are reporting that it was just rumors spreading like wildfire on social media. The shooter surrendered to police when they caught up with him on a major street that runs behind the Wal-Mart & the Mall. He has been identified as a 21 year old Patrick Crusius from Dallas, Texas. Nobody has said what he was doing here in El Paso, but they have talked about him being “mentally unstable”. May God shine His light on the truth and whoever was behind it!

wolfmoon1776

Was this in Beto’s district?

michaelh

El Paso is a substantial city, but not that large. My gut instinct is that you are on the right track.

Katie

Yes. And his smiles were out of place.

Blessed2bLoved

Yes it sure was, also Veronica Escobar (first year House of Representative…she ran for Beto’s seat & won), and the biggest Republican disappointment, Will Hurd…

wolfmoon1776

Good. Thanks!

gil00

The other pucture of supposed shooter. There is a crap ton of disinfo out there. Ive never seen si much intentionally misleading info.comment image

Sadie Slays

Yet another mass shooting video with a distinct lack of screaming or noise other than gunshots. Assume you didn’t know the context of this video. Would you assume this is a mass shooting from an AK-47 that resulted in 19 dead?

mollypitcher5

as one comment noted…where David Hogg goes shootings follow~
https://twitter.com/ReIncarnatedET/status/1157781569056100352

grandmaintexas

Absolutely. When I saw him trying his best to be a cool cowboy, my sixth sense went off like alarm bells.

wolfmoon1776

All black with a mask.
Is the mayor and city council of where this happened Democrats? Bet it’s a deep blue murder zone. Total control of the outcome and all media.

duchess01

He’s a strange one – he is…
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/07/livestream-conversation-dee-margo-mayor-el-paso/
When asked about the state of the Republican Party in Texas, Margo suggested that too many single issues are now driving policy decisions, and that lawmakers are voting based on what their party demands, versus what their constituents need.
Margo described himself as a fiscal conservative who’s more liberal on social policies, adding that he’s “never voted straight ticket in my entire life.” He later said he was never in favor of the “bathroom bill” that would’ve put restrictions on which public bathrooms transgender Texans could use.

wolfmoon1776

Interesting. Thanks!

duchess01

Most welcome, wolf!

michaelh

El Paso is a BLUE city.

Blessed2bLoved

Dee Margo ran as a Republican and surprising won, (probably because he is well known throughout the city for his charity work).He has been a disappointment to many of us. I would describe him as a RINO…he and his wife are close friends of George & Laura Bush, so that tells you everything you need to know. When Donald Trump held his rally here at the El Paso County Coliseum, I don’t believe Margo was even present at the rally. The city council is filled with Democrats. Unfortunately this city is one of the few BLUE areas in Texas. There are also a lot of illegal immigrants who live here as well. You see cars with Mexico license plates driving on the streets, in the parking lots, in residential areas and dropping kids off at schools. A lot of people here only speak Spanish even though they may lived here for years, and of course, most of them vote Democrat. It is very hard for someone running as a Republican to get elected around here. Many of the elected officials, such as judges, justices of the peace, sherriff, etc… run as Democrats and they are usually unopposed. There are plenty of Republican Conservative Trump supporters that live in and around the El Paso area, but unfortunately, the Democrats outnumber us. Thank God most of Texas is Republican leaning and I pray it stays that way!

wolfmoon1776

Great info!!!

mollypitcher5

So a shooting at the mall and at Walmart…

thinkthinkthink

Anyone that can download video needs to save this one. Very important story!

mollypitcher5

Sorry to robo post but I’m afraid they’ll disappear if not linked

wolfmoon1776

Dump it all here and remember to archive if needed at archive.fo

Volgarian8301

Here are 4 names I have seen in Twitter in connection to El Paso today. I find it hard to believe that 1 lone assailant could attack a mall AND a Wal-Mart at almost the same time.
Is it possible the initial reports of 3 or 4 attackers is more accurate?
Scotty Mendez
Scotty Kaiser…. (Possibly same person)
Larry Garcia
Patrick Crusius

mollypitcher5

There has to be video from both places. This feels like the Vegas Massacre all over again except this one HAS to have more store video from both places

Volgarian8301

It’s crazy….they keep focusing on the scene at the mall while we see video of Wal-Mart. There is surely more video from the stores…unless the cameras were “broken” or “off”…..we thought a casino had a lot of surveillance too.

Volgarian8301

Gov Abbott holding press conference

Volgarian8301

Some chick behind the Gov is REALLY pushing the narrative….manifesto, hate, bigotry, domestic terror, “America’s doorstep” BLAH BLAH BLAH

notasmidgeon

The head law officer at the table delighted in saying a 21yo white male. I found his replies to questions bordered on ….how do I say this without sounding racist? I found him a bit condemning.

Volgarian8301

Yes and he made sure to mention the “manifesto” which may or may not be real….but he got that out there didn’t he? 😡🙄

michaelh

Allen?? Srsly?

Volgarian8301

Vegas 2.0
Initial reports of 18; now 20 dead, 26 hurt…so that’s 46 casualties
Initial occupancy of Wal-Mart approximately 1000 with 100 employees, now “up to 3000”
And they have stopped talking about the mall
Pile on to blame conservatives and frame the story…. Gun. Control. NOW.
REEEEEEEEEEE

TheseTruths

The Left plays dirty. The globalist / progressive agenda, which is Communist, doesn’t care whom it kills. In fact, its goal is to have control over and reduce the population.

wolfmoon1776

Sorry – the Democrat Communists have to KILL ME to take my guns. It’s THAT SIMPLE. They have to KILL ME.
And yes, they’ve tried, but they KEEP FUCKING UP, and they can go to straight to HELL if they think I’m going to “turn them in”.
Go ahead, Deep State. You can kill 1000 innocent Americans. 2000. 5000. 10,000.
But it will get to the point where the logic will be inescapable.
Put 5000 Deep State creeps in prison, and the whole thing is over.
I’m totally up for that solution. TOTALLY.

mollypitcher5

Adriana Quezada, 39, said she was in the women’s clothing section of Walmart with her two children when the shooting happened.
“I heard the shots but I thought they were hits, like roof construction,” she said.
Her 19-year-old daughter and 16-year-old son threw themselves to the ground, then ran out of the Walmart through an emergency exit. They were not hurt, Quezada said.
She said she saw four men, dressed in black, moving together firing guns indiscriminately. Police later said they think there was just one shooter.
Police said by midafternoon that a suspect was in custody and the public was no longer in danger. Gomez said the suspect, who used a rifle, was arrested without incident. Police believe he was the “sole shooter” but are continuing to investigate reports that others were involved.
https://www.bnd.com/news/nation-world/national/article233492397.html
i feel like we’re in the twilight zone.
This wasn’t like Vegas..all dark, in a field like a fishbowl, not knowing where the shots were coming from.
All these people, in daylight report more than one shooter.

TheseTruths

It would be nice if someone had video.

mollypitcher5

Like the store video that we know they have. Her story could easily be proved or not…but they want this lone gunman scenario. They won’t settle for anything but

wolfmoon1776

I will never believe there was only one shooter in Vegas. Health Ranger (no longer on any social media – think about that) and his acoustic analysis convinced me of a second shooter. A later video showing humans moving on one of the likely vantage points predicted by Health Ranger, AND more evidence which I found but have not revealed, all present an airtight case for a second shooter, who I believe was acting as BACKUP for Paddock being the patsy and main part of the psy-op. I think the second shooter was to make hits if Paddock was off-target. Reminiscent of 9/11? BUILDINGS MUST FALL. It’s all PSYCHOLOGY.
There is going to be a lot of fog on these until we get somebody who does the following.
I urge everybody reading this to PAY CLOSE ATTENTION.
This is the “Undestroyable Witness Plan”
(1) Witness must adopt 100% “truth-teller” mentality like us, but ALSO remain wary as a WOLF
(2) Either obtains physical documentation like pictures, sound, video, or has strong recall and analytic memory
(3) publishes SUPER-anonymously at first, assuring that evidence has been picked up STRONGLY by the anons
(4) then GOES PUBLIC with LAWYERS to back up and swear to the released statement

Be READY. Be READY to be the witness who brings down the Cabal Murders.

Aubergine

Always.

JW in Germany

ATTENTION QTREEPERS!!!
A couple of hours ago OzzyTrumpster posted this image—it is NOT photoshopped!!!comment image
I went through to look myself an found a 4th sequential 17 then posted this on the roundup!!!
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Okay…I am normally a skeptic of such mathematical hokus pokus—but to have that all on the same screen simultaneously is quite convincing especially for someone to actually catch it while it was playing in REAL time!
I have often thought that the entire Trump/Bannon feud felt like theater to me—and wondered if Bannon might be Q.
Just gave me goose bumps that I found the exact time in the video myself and there yet ANOTHER 17!!! If you look under the DOW IMPLIED OPEN (the video time is in the way)— the DOW IMPLIED OPEN is -65.42!!!
6+5+4+2=17!!!!!!!!!
That is 4 sequential STRAIGHT 17s plus a whole bunch of Qs on the screen at the same time Bannon is speaking and the President tweets about him too!!!!!!!

COINCIDENCE??? 4 SEQUENTIAL STRAIGHT 17s and a bunch of QQQs all at the SAME TIME!
Is there anybody here that is a guru with chance/odds???

mollypitcher5

No guru here but I’ve always though Bannon has something to do with Q but so many people hate him..i usually keep it as my pet theory

JW in Germany

Like I said the TIME and DATE that PDJT tweets = 17 by simple addition. The other 3 17s found are also through simple addition—no multiplication, division, squaring, etc… necessary—STRAIGHT FORWARD four 17s! Add to that the bunch of Qs scrolling across the screen with one actually saying “Trust QQQ”—add to that the President has not tweeted about Bannon until today. THAT is a boatload of COINCIDENCE!

Volgarian8301

Well, the comment he made about the presidency we worked for being over, and that he was going to war FOR PDJT would seem to fit.
The President has been very unconventional, and Q has been a general in the war.
How do the dates line up for Bannon’s departure and Q’s appearance? Hmmmmm

TheseTruths

They manipulated the numbers.
“1:50 p.m. – 2 Aug 2019” – why only choose the 1, 5, and 2? Why leave out the 2, 0, 1, and 9?
And why not add 1 + 5 + 2 insead of 15 + 2?
There are other examples, but I’ll stop there.

JW in Germany

The 1, 5, and 2 are sequential. The 1 and 5 are together in the time and the 2 is the date—therefore the separation for clarification.
I get your skepticism—I myself have called BS on this many times because if you get enough numbers together and use different functions you can often get what you want the outcome to be. BUT this one is an exception!
I remind you the letters QQQ QQQ and the word TRUST and the fact that President Trump has not posted a positive tweet about Bannon since he departed the WH. FOUR 17s!

JW in Germany

OMG! There are actually FIVE 17s on the screen at the same time! I forgot the CNBC time is 5:12
5+12=17=Q
If there is a 6th, I will retire for the night because a 6th sequential addition equaling 17=Q will also equal the actual QQQ Trust QQQ on the screen.

TheseTruths

On the number 5:12 on the right side of the screen, they take 5 + 12.
On the number 1:50 on the left side of the screen, they do not take 1 + 5 (or even 1 + 50), but use the 1 and 5 as 15 and then choose to take the 2 from this date — 2 Aug 2019 — to make 17. Total manipulation to get their desired result.
Skepticism is not the word I would use for how I feel about this. It is not something that I think should remotely be given any credence. Just my opinion.

JW in Germany

Then we might as well close down the QTree because it is EXACTLY this type of logic that we have been using to justify the existence of Q.
You are still using separators. In one case the time and date—in another case hours and minutes. This is how code is done.

TheseTruths

“You are still using separators. In one case the time and date—in another case hours and minutes. This is how code is done.”
No, in both cases hours and minutes. Whoever came up with that graphic chose to use them inconsistently, to manipulate the numbers to get their desired result. I presented the original, existing separators.
5:12
1:50
“it is EXACTLY this type of logic that we have been using to justify the existence of Q.”
We’ll have to disagree on this one. Q does not depend on someone’s manipulation of numbers to make points. Q has nothing to do with numerology or gematria or anything related to that.

JW in Germany

Not true. The first being used is 1:50 plus the date 2 August.
You also have to remember that this is straight addition…no other functions that gematria uses. ALSO, somebody actually had to SEE this in the first place out of a scrolling screen.
Do not misunderstand me. I am also in disbelief—but these are amazing odds when you consider the ENTIRE picture.
Also Q DOES use this type of code in proofs! Remember, CODE IS MATH! Enigma! If it were obvious—it would not be code.
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TheseTruths

“The first being used is 1:50 plus the date 2 August.”
That is exactly my point. Instead of using just the time (as they did with 5:12), they had to find another 2 to make 17, so they arbitrarily took the 2 from the date, and left out the year because that didn’t fit the narrative.
The graphics you present are not in any way related to manipulating numbers to come up with a desired result. Q posts pics of watches with specific times and dates, not to have us add up the numbers in some manipulated way, but to send a different kind of message. A lot of those graphics are similar to the one posted here — someone trhing to find things and trying to make numbers fit. That’s not what Q is about.

JW in Germany

Respectfully, you are exaggerating the “manipulation”.
The very last graphic I posted is a great example of how the time in hours and minutes 3:15 on the watch is “manipulated” into the 3rd month March on the 15th day—WHILE in the same graphic no “manipulation” is used between the watch and tweet at 3:42.
My point with the 2nd graphic was to show how deep in depth that an anon went with angles and reflections and shadows and time of day etc……
We either say this all falls within mathematical probability and that it is bs—or we have to accept these things CAN BE true. I know—slippery slope.
I am not an expert in probability—therefore always a skeptic who sometimes gets exited when the improbable happens. 😎

JW in Germany

Please take a closer look at the original anon graphic. All of the numbers are sequential—what you consider manipulation (very possible) is only where the numbers are determined to be single or double digit—no reordering of the numbers.
In that last graphic, a time is translated into a date and confirmed by Q.
My entire point boils down to the fact that Q’s opponents point to this type of stuff—that many of us consider proofs—as chance hokus pokus. Is it—or is it not?
I will have to stop it is 4AM. I will post about this subject more in depth in the coming days. I would like to see a discussion on this.

MAGA Mom

First I wondered if this was a doctored video. No, it isn’t. Here is the original tweet w/the original video
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1157393367619104768
Then I wondered what all of the QQQ was and it turns out to be an actual stock on the stock exchanged that was going across the ticker.
https://www.invesco.com/portal/site/us/financial-professional/etfs/product-detail?productId=QQQ

JW in Germany

It gets even FREAKIER!!! You see two QQQ QQQs right? WRONG it is three QQQs in a row!!! The last three QQQs are created by adding the row of numbers in sequence!!!
1+8+8=17=Q
7+0+1+4+5=Q
6+5+4+2=Q
That is 3 sets of QQQ + a TRUST Q + a 17/Q time/date + the fact that President Trump has not had a positive tweet about Bannon since the fallout.
THEN you always have the question from Q “Do you believe in coincidences?”
How do you make it more clear without the President coming straight out and declaring it???

Volgarian8301

Whoa!!!😳

ozzytrumpster

Well. Put the cat amongst the pigeons there. Seriously, I think there are too many co incidences, even for someone sceptical of the whole numbo-jumbo

JW in Germany

That is FIVE SEQUENTIAL 17s=Qs on one screen. Plus the QQQ Trust QQQ plus 3 out of 5 sequences equaling QQQ. all in a row.
Does everybody see what I am seeing?

ozzytrumpster

Wolfie or Steve in co are numbers people. They could assess this

gil00

That anyone could even notice that…good for ozzy!!!

Volgarian8301

And another vulture with stripes in the background

mollypitcher5

oh shut up and go eat your salad with a comb!

Volgarian8301

She is truly vile

LM

Would it help to throw out the reality that anyone who has enough hate in them to slaughter innocent human beings would have enough hate to blame Trump and issue a manifesto placing the blame on his supporters as well.
A history of commitment to a cause needs to be demonstrated before any member of law enforcement issues such incendiary remarks, and free and open access to the person’s social history needs to be maintained.
Otherwise, those who want to further an agenda can sow their disinformation.
We have little reason to believe the MSM or even the often corrupted government officials getting out in front of an event.
The Trump/Deplorable support of the 2nd amendment stresses retaining the right of the people who cannot afford an army of private security guards, gated communities, and personal walls to defend themselves from the increasingly lawless, criminal elements flourishing in our society.
Borders, legal immigration enforcement, and proper law enforcement which administers justice to criminals needs to be maintained to protect the people, and I am not ashamed of my fierce commitment to these issues and to my President, who has the guts to stand up for these things.

wolfmoon1776

Your mention of social media makes me want to say this….
I personally believe that social media of any public criminal needs to be LOCKED DOWN but KEPT OPEN. The public has the RIGHT to KNOW THE TRUTH. No deletions, no scrubbing, no hiding. Only CP, which is illegal, or REAL doxxing, needs to be HIDDEN (as evidence, if needed), NOT DELETED.
Preserving evidence is a DUTY. Keeping PUBLIC EVIDENCE PUBLIC is also a duty – TO THE PUBLIC.
Period. The idea of “scrubbing” in any way a person’s social media is an ANTI-JOURNALISTIC idea. I will have no truck with that kind of thinking.

thinkthinkthink

Agreed.
Why has there not been an outcry by the MCM?
Doesn’t the PUBLIC have a right to know?

wolfmoon1776

Fake News. These people are no longer real journalists, IMO. They want the CAREER – not the JOB.

LM

Totally agree, Wolf!!!
Here are some questions you might consider at another, less stressful time. I don’t expect a response and don’t want to ask for one either, especially right now.
I don’t have technical grounding so just dismiss anything that doesn’t make sense. I hope that you might frame a policy we could get on board with and ask those on our side to implement. Your comment caused me to wonder about the following things.
Is the person able to delete their history and post something false prior to such terrible acts and make it so that others were left without ability to access the past history?
(Who else is able to scrub their history….is it journalists or LE?)
How do we frame a request to our lawmakers and President to put policies in place to protect these records and would those protections ensure that we would also be able to find out if their social history had been changed or tampered with?
If the right sort of safeguards to a person’s history were in place, I feel sure that the anons could get to the bottom of things even if “officials” refused to do so.

Volgarian8301

This guy they arrested just turned 21….doubt he could/did even vote in 2016….

LM

Under the circumstances, I am going to post a comment from OT which might inspire some of you to take a look at 8 channel or VAT, neither of which I am able to access.
I hope this will help.
And thanks to Gramma if she reads this, because I appreciated her comment.
Somebody’s Gramma says:
August 3, 2019 at 8:32 pm
I agree with Kleen regarding the utter collapse of the family and it’s horrible effects on the children. From what I’ve read, the manifesto was a hoax, quickly posted on 4chan and then copied over to 8chan (obviously to link QAnon with the murders). The Anons also quickly researched and posted previous posts of the shooter and he was anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, uber liberal, etc. More recent posts are probably manipulated as well. Sorry, no sauce – research for yourself. The eyewitnesses seemed genuine about how it went down (3-4 men dressed in all black with weapons entered the store and started shooting; not law enforcement), so I don’t think that mixed up crazed young man was the only shooter. He’s the patsy. We still don’t know what happened in Las Vegas, right??? Antifa has been targeting El Paso. Antifa has openly stated they are going to arm themselves. Antifa is funded. At this point, we have no idea what the truth is. Per the usual. The Dem candidates all immediately posted their support for disarming everyone. Again, per the usual. Sick and sad.

bakocarl

I think, if there were 4 shooters in black, there will be a whole bunch of witnesses, not just 2 or 3, who will be saying the same thing. And, really, someone should have a video, although 4 shooters is a bit of a dissuasion to taking video.

wolfmoon1776

Lots of weird stuff here. She could have spotted a SWAT team going in, too. Need more data.

gil00

That house here, probably 650k

michaelh

I’m not watching TV but that’s pretty typical for west Allen home prices. All built in the 2000’s when the city grew. Nothing of significance in Allen west of US-75 existed before 2000.

wolfmoon1776

I think this may be important. There is something else to know about this case – the FAMILIAL aspect.
Remember the mom of the Charlottesville driver? She seemed like she was ACTING – very badly, TBH – in the “interview” shot where she pretends to be a Trump supporter – that super phony line with steadily increasing pauses about Trump – “He’s… not a…. white……… nation… al… ist… PREGNANT PAUSE WITH 1B ?????? ”
It was all WEIRD. Just WEIRD.
Something really odd is going on.

wolfmoon1776

Not sure if this is a duplication or disinformation – just posting it anyway for consideration. From Gab.
https://gab.com/JohnCoctoston/posts/102555268684849434comment image

wolfmoon1776

I think this must be the gal in the article Molly cited above.

Sadie Slays

Interesting that there was a high-profile mass shooting right after the FBI issued a warning about “conspiracy theorists.”
Exclusive: FBI document warns conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat
https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html

wolfmoon1776

The Holder-Mueller faction in DOJ and FBI is getting scared.

Shebythesea

The disinformation has begun…this is very interesting.
Not so much about data, more about a quite group including ex-military influencing media in UK=propaganda=bad.
Didn’t mention Q but may as well have. Very similar if not related. Looks like they will be linking to mockingbird idea.

Shebythesea

This guy is a worm

TheseTruths

Hilarious! Raccoons are tenacious little critters.

gil00

Lets see if the deep state runs this investigation or not.

Volgarian8301

Here we go….

gil00

Yeah after they make multiple copies and post on 8chan and outside social media sites, maybe.

Volgarian8301

Sure hope they do, right after they hire private security

wolfmoon1776

Exactly. Post it online, then get the word out.

Blessed2bLoved

Wow, I live in El Paso and haven’t heard any of this from any of the local chatter or news reports.

TheseTruths

I hope Anna will be allowed to report what she says she knows. I think we all believe there’s a lot more to the story and are afraid we’ll never be allowed to know the truth (as with Vegas).

michaelh

Wheee….

thinkthinkthink

BTW, if the lie about a “trump supporter attacks old man” surfaces, here’s another take.

wolfmoon1776

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mollypitcher5

Interesting tidbit ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Twitter account, which has not been confirmed to belong to the accused shooter, had been inactive for two years but one of the last posts signaled praise for President Trump’s effort to build a border wall.~
https://patch.com/texas/el-paso/active-shooter-near-el-paso-walmart-police
This guy lives in a nice home with mom and therapist dad, doesn’t hang out banging out pro Trump stuff or anti illegal stuff, up and decided to go over 600 miles away to do a mass shooting?

wolfmoon1776

This whole thing is getting strange.

TheseTruths

Is therapist dad licensed to prescribe drugs?

LM

If this kid is the result of Dad’s therapy then you have to wonder about the effect it has had on other people under its influence.

gil00

Beta is getting a lot of attention. On fox right now slamming Trump. They cut him off.

gil00

Yep. Way way too much conflicting “stuff” out there. There is always very bad eyewitness statements thst dont make sense but this is all over from msm, intern et, socials, politicians along the local to national spectrum. The fact that hogg was in texas, antifa was planning something for sept, its beta’s district, the guy drove over 600 miles to the area, etc.
Peeyew this stinks.

michaelh

Oh sure! Beto you are such an @$$!!! You pull this CRAP just to get publicity for your campaign?!

Blessed2bLoved

Makes you wonder…most all the Democrats are starting to clamor for gun control now. You can bet that both Beto O’Rourke and Veronica Escobar are going to use this tragedy to further their political career. It is sickening and hopefully everyone can see through this farce!

gil00

How did Beto get access inside the hospital to talk with peopke who were just shot????

mollypitcher5

The cottage industry of killing innocent men, women and children to divert attention and to bolster severe gun control AND internet freedom of speech has it all down pat. They use every psychological trick in the book and has probably had this manifesto ready to go for awhile..

Volgarian8301

Aaaaand we have a spontaneous demonstration/candlelight vigil in DC…..complete with matching shirts and printed signs

Volgarian8301

Forgot the link….

LM

So the answer to WWII would have been for open borders all over the world, elevating Nazis to prominent jobs in the government and giving them subsidies, free tuition, hiring preference, snd admission preference in prestigious universities?
BTW, most of these ignorant people do not know what a Nazi is.
I hope they all go home, open their doors and throw away their keys and simply call the police and wait compliantly while as a result they are being robbed and murdered because if not they are all “haters” just like they say we are.
😡

mollypitcher5

lol..it’s not funny but it IS funny. True leftist theater

Volgarian8301

So disgustingly predictable

gil00

Are you kidding me????? Margery stoneman douglas antigun activists in el paso. Werent some in Christchurch too?
“The parents of Joaquin Oliver, one of the 17 Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students killed in the Parkland massacre, were just across the border from El Paso, Texas, on Saturday when a shooter opened fire on random shoppers in that city.
Manuel Oliver said he will continue with his plan on Sunday to paint a mural at Las Americas Immigrant Advocacy Center in El Paso. Sunday would have been Joaquin’s 19th birthday.
“I’m not surprised it happened,” the 51-year-old artist and activist said by phone Saturday evening. “I’ve been fighting the last two years telling people it could happen anywhere, anytime.”
Oliver and his wife, Patricia Manuel, have been traveling the world nearly nonstop since Joaquin’s death, urging anyone who will listen about the need to change the nation’s permissive gun laws. The fact that the latest slaughter happened in Texas, where there are “a lot of guns but not a lot of gun laws,” doesn’t make it less horrifying, he said.
RELATED: Parkland father Manuel Oliver is demanding change one mural at a time »
“The community is going through the worst nightmare anyone can ever imagine,” he said,
Joaquin was a passionate anti-gun advocate who also cared about immigration issues, Manuel Oliver said. While the shooting was occurring at an El Paso shopping center, the couple were across the border in Ciudad Juárez, speaking to migrants from their native Venezuela who are being denied refuge in the United States, he said”
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/fl-ne-parkland-parent-urges-city-to-raise-voice-against-gun-violence-20190804-nx5ib3nctjgo5muzxyrqccfkly-story.html

wolfmoon1776

Yeah, and NAZI BOY HOGG shows up shortly before that.
“Nothing to see here! Move along!”

michaelh

I can’t believe they are risking having those assets out there right now. They must think the MCM value is far greater than tipping people off that there was a larger plan in action. Regardless, very sloppy OPSEC!

wolfmoon1776

The leftists just get away with this stuff, and I think the following point is very important, so listen up, everybody.
They don’t care what WE THINK any longer. They only care what people who support the leftist narrative think – i.e., the people who are needed to DEFEND THEM VIOLENTLY.
And not just what they believe down deep, where many know their side is lying, and have doubts about things. It’s what they will “believe and stand on publicly”.
The PROPAGANDA VALUE on the left of having “prescient” and conveniently located assets for LEFTIST consumption is a “winner”, and matters more to them than WHATEVER we think.
The leftist mob is beyond facts now. I would be very surprised if we can shake more of them loose. Maybe Q team knows that upcoming evidence will convince, but I’m really not personally aware how that would happen.

Volgarian8301

That sounds really ominous, and just as the school year is about to start, does not bode well

wolfmoon1776

Possibly why “hot August” has to happen. Get it done before school starts. The left has to spasm big – let it happen now.
I really think DECLAS is why this is happening. Every programmable psych-bot is gonna get pushed out into play.

Volgarian8301

The panic is almost palpable in these deranged demons. August has definitely started “hot”. They are like cornered, rabid animals. I fear for and pray for the innocents caught in the crossover of this. Schools will be back in session starting next week, and it is terrifying to consider what they may do next.

michaelh

HOT AUGUST thanks to GLOBALISTS WARMING.

wolfmoon1776

HA! Too true. We need to accelerate their warming in OLD SPARKY. Have us a little TEXAS TOAST, so to speak. I think Hogg had prior knowledge of Parkland – that should be good for some glow-ball warming.

michaelh

Next daily thread forecast says it’s going to be a HOT one

TheseTruths

Ever since Pres. Trump was elected they have been more open about their true beliefs, and you’re right: they don’t care what we think. Dem candidates are not trying to hide their socialism/communism anymore. This is open warfare now, I think because their plans didn’t work out and they’re desperate. It’s all or nothing. Extremely dangerous times.

Aubergine

I believe you are correct, but I also know there just really aren’t that many of them. If we can’t change them, fuck them.
It seems like there are a lot more of them, because they are all the media covers, incessantly. They are the loudest, the most persistent, and the most violent. But they are like scared cats. They are all puffed up to look bigger than they are.
Carry your weapons, concealed if necessary. Don’t go into places that won’t allow them. Protect yourself from the crazies that are out there. But know that there are WAY MORE of us than there are of them.
I also think that before it goes much farther with the leftist mob, President Trump will do something drastic. I don’t think he will allow the American people to live in fear of a relatively small group of violent thugs. These people must be put down like rabid dogs. I trust that he will do what is necessary.

wolfmoon1776

Alinsky. You’re right! And they know it, too. THAT is why they’re scared.

michaelh

Thank God Trump got in front of Baltimore!
🙏🙏🙏 Please Lord let us have captured some serious SIGINT on these people!!! 🙏🙏🙏

mollypitcher5

“They” know we know and are laughing in their beer knowing that their propaganda arm will highlight it all, never ask questions and never ever bat an eye at these unbelievable coincidences.
Every time I see Hogg. the picture of him and Valjar comes in my head. They will murder as many as it takes to get what they want unless the truth is shown

Volgarian8301

Whaaaaat?? Too many coincidences

Deplorable Patriot

If I’m MIA for any length of time, my nephews are here and the seven year old has discovered Marvin the Martian and Yosemite Sam. And, of course, he likes my computer to sit and watch Sam blow his stack. So, for the next week, I’ll be iffy.

michaelh

The important thing is that you take the opportunity to expose your nephews to the finest elements of high culture. This will pay dividends for a lifetime.

Deplorable Patriot

All the old school Looney Tunes with the Carl Stalling scores we can find!
Seriously, the older one we do try to broaden his horizons. The younger one is attracted to REALLY good music. Like Beethoven 9, Verdi Requiem and Il Trovotore, etc. He’s a smart little $#!+. There’s developmental delay issues there, but he’s slowly but surely getting to where he should be.
And, yes, we go to the zoo and art museum quite often. Their mother is an artist, of sorts, and she’s always up for special exhibits when we are in the same city.

Deplorable Patriot

We’re supposed to float on Tuesday. Cross your fingers the weather holds.