20191007: Situation in Turkey/Syria

We’ve heard rumblings of something going on in Turkey for several days. For months, we’ve heard President Trump complain about European Nations who refuse to take responsibility for their citizens who became ISIS fighters. The USA has been stuck with them. And yes, we’ve heard Citizen/Candidate/President Trump complain about endless foreign wars.

We recall President Trump trying to withdraw from Syria and the GOPe and Dems had a fit. How odd. Almost open defiance from Sec Mattis. Well, today we see further action.

From the President himself: He did this in a tweet thread. Below is the first tweet in the thread, and below that is the compiled message for ease of reading.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181172457811697664

The United States was supposed to be in Syria for 30 days, that was many years ago. We stayed and got deeper and deeper into battle with no aim in sight. When I arrived in Washington, ISIS was running rampant in the area. We quickly defeated 100% of the ISIS Caliphate,…..

….including capturing thousands of ISIS fighters, mostly from Europe. But Europe did not want them back, they said you keep them USA! I said “NO, we did you a great favor and now you want us to hold them in U.S. prisons at tremendous cost. They are yours for trials.” They…..

….again said “NO,” thinking, as usual, that the U.S. is always the “sucker,” on NATO, on Trade, on everything. The Kurds fought with us, but were paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so. They have been fighting Turkey for decades. I held off this fight for….

….almost 3 years, but it is time for us to get out of these ridiculous Endless Wars, many of them tribal, and bring our soldiers home. WE WILL FIGHT WHERE IT IS TO OUR BENEFIT, AND ONLY FIGHT TO WIN. Turkey, Europe, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia and the Kurds will now have to…..

…figure the situation out, and what they want to do with the captured ISIS fighters in their “neighborhood.” They all hate ISIS, have been enemies for years. We are 7000 miles away and will crush ISIS again if they come anywhere near us!

Thoughts?

Imagine this will be updated throughout the day.

End.

Update #1, 8:15AM Eastern time: Within 30 Minutes, here comes Lindsey Graham, bemoaning our abandonment of the the Kurds, and advocating for the USA staying in Syria with no end in sight. Lindsey claims ISIS is not destroyed and “it is the biggest lie being told by the administration”. “I will do everything I can to destroy Turkey and their economy if they step one foot in Turkey”. “The administration is short-sited in my opinion.” “To say that ISIS is destroyed in Syria is not true.” “We just set the motive for the continuation of ISIS.” and it makes the military sad to leave.

Update #2 8:22AM Eastern Time: Just as predicted, here come the NeoCons.

https://twitter.com/TrueEyeTheSpy/status/1181179565676195840

And MORE from Lindsey Graham:

Update at 11:20AM Eastern Time, from the President:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181227885841002496

….down, watching over a quagmire, & spending big dollars to do so. When I took over, our Military was totally depleted. Now it is stronger than ever before. The endless and ridiculous wars are ENDING! We will be focused on the big picture, knowing we can always go back & BLAST!

President Donald Trump

And MORE from our President: 11:38AM Eastern Time

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181232249821388801

….the captured ISIS fighters and families. The U.S. has done far more than anyone could have ever expected, including the capture of 100% of the ISIS Caliphate. It is time now for others in the region, some of great wealth, to protect their own territory. THE USA IS GREAT!

President Donald Trump, October 7, 2019.

Update, about 1:00pm, from the Dept of Defense: (Looks like they were not “blindsided” at all, were they?)

About 2:00pm, we hear from Mitch McConnell, who released a statement:

McConnell Statement on Turkey and U.S. Partners in Syria

‘Major new conflict between Turkey and our partners in Syria would seriously risk damaging Turkey’s ties to the United States and causing greater isolation for Turkey on the world stage. As we learned the hard way during the Obama Administration, American interests are best served by American leadership, not by retreat or withdrawal.’

WASHINGTON, D.C.– U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) released the following statement today regarding Turkey and U.S. partners in Syria: “In January, a supermajority of the U.S. Senate voted for an amendment that expressed bipartisan concern about the continuing threat posed by ISIS and Al Qaeda in Syria, appreciation of the long-term American security interests in Syria and the region, and support for a continued military presence in northeastern Syria.

“The conditions that produced that bipartisan vote still exist today. While the physical caliphate has been removed, ISIS and al Qaeda remain dangerous forces in Syria and the ongoing Syrian civil war poses significant security and humanitarian risks.

“A precipitous withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria would only benefit Russia, Iran, and the Assad regime. And it would increase the risk that ISIS and other terrorist groups regroup.

“I urge the President to exercise American leadership to keep together our multinational coalition to defeat ISIS and prevent significant conflict between our NATO ally Turkey and our local Syrian counterterrorism partners. Major new conflict between Turkey and our partners in Syria would seriously risk damaging Turkey’s ties to the United States and causing greater isolation for Turkey on the world stage.

“As we learned the hard way during the Obama Administration, American interests are best served by American leadership, not by retreat or withdrawal.”

Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell, October 7, 2019

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wheatietoo

Our VSG is starting the week off with a Bang!
Hah.
It will be interesting to see which guilty dogs bark first.
😏

Wolf Moon

Oh, I love it!
Trump has turned European globalism’s little ISIS musical chair operation, where AMERICA is always the one left standing, into THEIR PROBLEM, NOT OURS.

Wolf Moon

No, I need to fire it up. I came here first and saw what you had posted. I was just immediately seeing that the VSG has been up to VSG-ing the heck out of his enemies!!! 😀

prognosticatasaurusrex

/counter measure for the impeachment farce. Hit one of the neocon and globalist favorite target. Endless war on foreign soil.

Wolf Moon
fleporeblog
Wolf Moon

TRUMP DOCTRINE ON STEROIDS!!!

Brave and Free

PDJT said we weren’t going to keep fighting endless wars, so I think it’s about time. Let NATO / EU figure it out the balls in there court. Rather harsh for the Kurds but it’s been more so for our young man over there fighting a endless war. The Rinos and war mongers are going to go crazy I am sure.

Wolf Moon

The Globo-Nazis have a great game figured out. They MAGNIFY small crises into big ones using super-power arms and money. They AMPLIFY small crises into WORLD CRISES and make MONEY on it.
THE GAME IS OVER.

Alison

Magnify…Amplify….
That’s the least of it. They PURPOSELY CREATE each small crisis before they magnify & amplify.
Our domestic False Flags are a pittance to the global ones created by Obama, McCain, Hillary and the Bushes. I am sick inside that I blindly accepted their manufactured wars at the price of so many traumatically wounded (mentally & physically) and dead. We are our own great betrayers if we don’t stop this madness.
Mideast tribal wars – centuries long – cannot be ours to solve by endlessly sacrificing our wealth and troops.
Our fossil fuel independence and strong borders to stop incoming drugs go a long way to being able to say. #NoMoreNeoconWars

Wolf Moon

AMEN!

Teagan

Suspect that POTUS’ visit to Walter Reed and seeing the broken bodies and minds of our young military was just the resolve he needed to go ahead with this. Too bad Graham and other neo-cons are required to make personal visits there, as well.

nikkichico7

Graham and other new-cons 🤬 … should be in UNIFORM and on the dad blasted FRONT LINES in HARMS WAY …. see how they’d do when they lose limbs and life itself … to hell with them‼️‼️‼️‼️ 🤬🤚‼️‼️‼️‼️

ozzytrumpster

Graham and yertle being Judas goats
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
Thread
On Judas goats.
Somebody asked me to summarize so that they could tell people on Twitter.
Just copy and paste these toots and writer your own thread on Twitter.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
A Judas goat is trained to lead sheep to slaughter.
A Judas goat walks at the front of the herd, and the sheep follow into the slaughterhouse.
As part of its training, the Judas is shown a secret escape route.
So the Judas goat leads the herd to its doom but exits through a hidden doorway, so the herd never knows that they were being led by an enemy agent.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
Donald Trump began planning his presidency in about 1980 at the latest.
You can see that in the interviews he gave.
“One man could turn this country around.”

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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
As part of his 40-year preparation for the presidency, Trump did two things:
One, he befriended REAL Democrats who were unhappy with the increasing leftism of the party.
And two, he planted his own agents who POSED as Democrats and climbed the political ladder.
These were Trump’s sleeper agents.
Those people are the Judas goats.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
Here’s what people don’t understand:
A Judas goat will never be perceived as one.
For example, I’m quite sure that Michael Moore is a Judas goat.
Many of Trump’s Judas goats are used only once.
After Trump was elected, Soros met with Democratic donors, and they hatched a plan to stop Trump.
Jill Stein demanded a recount. The plan was to delay the certification of the electoral votes.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
If the electoral votes were delayed, the election would’ve gone to the House of Representatives.
They would’ve elected Hillary. Don’t kid yourself. Paul Ryan would’ve forced the GOP to go for Hillary.
But someone in the Soros meeting was a mole who told Trump about the plan.
So Trump defeated the plan in multiple brilliant ways.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
For one, Stein filed for a recount ONE WEEK PAST THE PENNSYLVANIA DEADLINE.
All the big cheeses in the room left it to their minions to work out the details, so they were given the wrong deadline, which means that the Pennsylvania recount was a waste of time.
When the Stein people went to court over Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, Trump’s lawyers revealed that Michigan’s votes had already been certified and sent to Washington.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
The Michigan votes put Trump over 270, so the ENTIRE RECOUNT was an exercise in futility.
A Judas goat told Soros and Company to go for the recount.
So they did, and they had their butts handed to them.
This has been happening since Trump won the election.
The Judas goats mislead the Democrats, and Trump comes out on top.
Take impeachment. Biggest backfire in American political history. But the Democrats are positive that if they JUST PUSH HARDER, it’ll work.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
The reason the Democrats are no longer skilled at politics is that they are getting terrible advice.
Judas goats are convincing them to commit political suicide.
Someone told Hillary to stagger out of her hospital bed and accuse Trump of DOING WHAT SHE DID.
What we’ll happen?
All her own corruption will be exposed. First came Biden, and next comes Hillary.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
It was Judas goats who gave us that hideous Swedish girl.
I actually didn’t watch this at the time.
It’s disgusting. She’s the worst possible choice to do this.
All I see is Hitler. Her face is contorted with hate.

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Thomas Wictor
@ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
Judas goats have convinced Democrats to make terrible decisions AND put utterly loathsome people up front.
Name a single high-profile leftist who is likable.
They all grim, nasty, humorless, and HEAVY.
Trump is funny. People like it.
Oct 08, 2019, 07:57 · Web · 16 · 44
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Kambeii @Kambeii
@ThomasWic You know, for being all clowns, Democrats aren’t very funny.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
In the past, leftists always said that they lost because they didn’t go far enough.
The Judas goats have convinced them that they finally need to go all in.
That’s why we have the demented Green New Deal.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
And that’s why the Democrats are saying openly that they will raise taxes on the middle class, eliminate our borders, and give free EVERYTHING to illegal aliens.
Here’s a term that Democrats no longer understand:
“Subtext.”
An idea not announced explicitly.
NOW, they say exactly the right thing to drive away voters.
Democrats are promising lawlessness, poverty, and classism that elevates illegals over citizens.
It’s madness that can’t win elections.
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Kambeii @Kambeii
@ThomasWic
Well, drive away the voters that don’t live in California, anyway.
“Hey, I know we just had a gas tax to purportedly fix the roads and we promised not to do anymore without voter approval, but here’s another gas tax.”
And then we approved the second gas tax anyway and the roads are still shit.
(And don’t tell me it’s because the proposition was worded badly – voters being retarded and unable to look up the ballot propositions isn’t any more comforting).
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@Kambeii
California is the world’s largest open-air mental asylum.

Rodney Short

Part of President Trump and his promises made promises kept deal he made with America.

Wolf Moon

The man KEEPS A DEAL!!!

Rodney Short

That he has,I never doubt President Trump I really feel he has this and will always do what’s best for
We The People.

Wolf Moon

AMEN!

olderwiser21

Rodney – It’s because he’s one of us. He gets it….

Rodney Short

He is one of us and he raised his kids to be the same way.
I have a new respect for Ivanka now that I know she can operate a D9

olderwiser21

IKR? That has to be so much fun!!!

Rodney Short

Tons of fun.I really admire the man Trump has grown into being.I have followed President Trump ever since I can remember because I lived my whole life in construction and to me Trump what the man I always wanted to work for.

GA/FL

Wictor would say the GCC (plus Israel special ops) will take care of it and deal with Iran. He seems to think the Saudis with all their unlimited $$$ (or gold or whatever currency they use) have serious advanced weapons and training and tactics to handle the Islamist nasties.
However, I don’t trust Islam in any form or fashion – its texts and purpose are conquest and human rights abusive.
Saudis have held slaves and abused women and children and perpetrated jihad and terrorism for centuries.
Who says they have changed?
Crown Prince Bin Salman seems to be moderate and yet, he’s still an Islamist.

NebraskaFilly

WADR, those who expect perfection are doomed to disappointment. SA has been Wahhabist Islam since pretty much it’s inception thanks to an agreement between the King and the Bedouins. The Crown Prince is making progress on moving towards a more moderate Islam and, IMO, he should be supported 100% in that effort. He removed thousands of REAL “Islamist” Wahhabist Imams and is allowing women more freedom and modernizing the country. This is NOT going to happen overnight. It will take years.
The Kurds are also primarily Islamic – are they “Islamists” as well? The Kurds are spread out over 5 or 6 different countries. They want their OWN country? How can that happen? They are simply one of the many “tribes” within Islam. Allegiances between countries change over time – this is just reality – and it is time for them to take care of themselves now.
From Wiki: “Regarding religion, although the majority of Kurds belong to the Shafi‘i school of Sunni Islam, significant numbers practise Shia Islam and Alevism while some are adherents of Yarsanism, Yazidism, Zoroastrianism and Christianity.”

para59r

IMO the tribalism of the Kurds is a stronger binding force than Islam itself. Those who have converted to Islam have done so for the sake of the other Kurds who would not bend the knee and their commitment to Islam is on a sliding scale of being real to mere trappings. This is not at all uncommon with nations that have fallen under the Islamic yoke through out the world and allows for some autonomy to be maintained in masking themselves in the face of this tyrannic cult that is Islamic Fundamentalism.
It’s not just Islam either these people have had to hide themselves from to maintain their identity as a truly ancient peoples. They’ve essentially taken on the trappings of every major religion and or dominant extinguishing force through out the ages for survival purposes and it wouldn’t be a far stretch to suggest they’re the remnants from the ancient Sumer Akkad time period.

ozzytrumpster

Very similar to orthodox Russian that reappeared stronger after the fall of atheist communism

thinkthinkthink

OT FYI, Cuppa Covfefe has shared enough of his world to know he is a father! IIRC

ozzytrumpster

Crap. Now I’m misgendering people……hey wait biological sex has nothing to do with gender anymore does it. I don’t want to make assumptions here

fleporeblog

This is an outcome of ENERGY DOMINANCE! Our President has allowed our country to become independent of Middle Eastern oil. Within the next 4 years as more and more pipelines are built and LNG terminals are completed, we will never ever have to depend of anyone for our energy needs. The ME and all its craziness no longer controls us. Let the Israelis join forces with the GCC nations to police the area.
Our men and women have shed a tremendous amount of blood in the region. They come first!

fleporeblog

Great thread by Brian Cates about the GCC.
https://twitter.com/Baba9773/status/1181220578147086337

nikkichico7

Amen Flep .. 🤨👍❤️‼️

gil00

POTUS just did that arms deal with the saudis a few months ago and they also hadvthe oil field attack. He also got the 5 eye work around going. This is only fair to see that region put up or shut up.

pgroup

5-eyes workaround = The Orb Network
I am so gratified that I’m not the only person who knows this. I guess it’s one of the drawbacks of moving at Trumpspeed – important events that don’t involve fireworks tend to get lost in the mists of the mind. I will never forget the laying of hands onto the Orb; to me it was the opening act of the DJT New Era.
I have been in favor of recognizing the Kurds as a sovereign country since GWB appointed Paul Bremer as viceroy of Iraq. He was the Father of the Sunni uprising (later ISIS) with his idiotic policy of making Hussain govt employees persona non grata in the interim govt.
IMO, the Kurds should be covertly told that the US is prepared to recognize their sovereignty if they ask for it.

GA/FL

I’m for protecting the Kurds.
No more Islamic genocides like the Armenian Genocide by the Ottomans, Bosnian genocide and Rwandan genocide and the ISIS genocide of Christians in Syria, the genocide of whites in South Africa and others..

SteveInCO

The Kurds are also Muslims, but I tend to agree with you.

GA/FL

We should never get into the middle of the centuries long Sunni-Shiite conflict.

kalbokalbs

^^^

Cuppa Covfefe

Thought popped into my head (probably because of the daily “clan” wars between various “Arab” and “Lebanese-” factions in Berlin and Hamburg)…
Have to be careful walking down the “Sunni” side of the street, as you might end up covered in Shi-ite…
Getting involved in ANY of those conflicts is a losing situation, as no matter how much they hate each other, they hate US, the West, more than anything. People often conflate alliances with friendships. One can be an ally without being a friend; one could hardly be a friend without being an ally (even if occasionally some corrective criticism is needed)…

Cuppa Covfefe

Tesla Dome… and Elon has nothing to do with that…
Kind of like a city-sized bug-zapper, but invisible…

GA/FL

History has shown that Islamists do not keep their treaties and agreements…and they do not intend to recognize Israel whose validity/legality is as legitimate as the formation of Pakistan and other nations formed at the same time by international agreement.
They are currently in violation of 11 of 15 treaties signed: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/report-palestinians-in-violation-of-at-least-11-of-15-treaties-abbas-signed/
An Islamist forging a treaty with Israel is usually assassinated…such as Sadat.
Israel has given up land for years to try to appease the Islamists and history has shown this does not work.
This is all due to the nature of Islam itself. Islam is a hate-based supremacist system that conditions its adherents to basest inhumanity as the recent events and 22,700+ jihad attacks since 9/11/01 have shown. (This does not mean the corrupt politicians in Washington, DC are not at fault in their wheeling dealings – pas du tout!)
Here is Israel before they gave up 70% of their land for peace.
http://www.justicenow4israel.com/mandatemap.html
Here is Israel after giving up 70% of their land for peace:comment image
Here is Israel today (after the Arabs have illegally attacked and occupied the West Bank and Gaza and Israel has appeased, released hundreds of terrorist murderers):comment image
These maps tell the story.

ozzytrumpster

Punny woman

para59r

IMO Many Kurds have taken on the trappings islam as way to hide their true identity. It’s a survival technique and the Kurds are not the only ones to do it in the Islamic world.

ozzytrumpster

Well enough to hold their own. They can work it out without someone calling their big brother in. The worst thing Europe ever did was letting Turkey into the EU. And yes I’m including all wars, the Black Death blah,blahblah

michaelh

“The worst thing Europe ever did was . . . the EU”
Fixed it for you – no charge 😉

ozzytrumpster

Thankyou michael. The eu was an understandable reaction to two world wars

thinkthinkthink

Exactly as planned … or so sources quoted by Gail C. and others here… 🙂

NebraskaFilly

OK – what land is going to be given to the Kurds to form their own country? They are spread out over many different countries……the Kurds are simply another Islamic tribe, IMO. If we need to protect the Kurds, why do we then not also need to protect the Uyghurs in China?
We should stay out of it – period. JMO

kalbokalbs

We should stay out of it – period.
^^^ 100%
AND
now that we are the largest energy producer, AND growing energy capacity / throughput, NEVER again beholden to energy barons that hate America.

phoenixrising37

Why do they need their own country?
We do not need to PROTECT the Kurds…
America FIRST…………………
I don’t want to see anymore legless young American men…

Covadonga

“Why do they need their own country?”
It has been theorized that an independent Kurdistan (and also maybe an independent state in North Africa for the non-Arab natives there) could undermine Islam worldwide by highlighting:
-the extent to which Islam has largely served as an Arab colonial enterprise,
-the extent to which Arab Muslims still treat themselves as 1st-class members of the ummah (worldwide community of Muslim believers), and non-Arab Muslims as lesser beings, and
-the extent to which the current generation of Muslims are descendants of non-Muslims who were converted unwillingly at sword point.
I’m not completely invested in this idea, and think there are pros and cons either way. But I wanted to point out that there are non-Muslim counter-jihadist thinkers in the West who are applying strategy to the question of how to handle Islam long-term, and these are some of the options they are coming up with.
The Kurds and the non-Arab North Africans are currently the 2 largest ethnic groups in the world who, respectively, don’t have countries of their own. In contrast to this, the very cantankerous, non-productive, and unloveable Arab Muslims have more sovereign nations under their rule than does any other ethnic group.
In any case, I want our troops out.

NebraskaFilly

Very easy, simple solution to Islam, at least here in the US: NO religious law is allowed that conflicts with Constitutional Law – Islam MUST subject itself to civil law or it cannot exist – period!

Covadonga

Yes, but easier said than done.
Those who would like all Muslims in the West to be subject to secular law, let alone those who would like a halt to all further Islamic immigration, have enough trouble just trying to find locations to hold their lectures, conferences, and fundraisers!

NebraskaFilly

Good question – EXACTLY what I was asking!!!!

SteveInCO

The northern portion of Iraq. The eastern part of Syria.
Even doing that would upset Turkey, because they’d be afraid of the Kurds in their own country wanting to split away and join what would presumably be named “Kurdistan.”

NebraskaFilly

There is an autonomous region in Iraq called Kurdistan – let them go there.

SteveInCO

That’s basically what would be taken out of Iraq if there were ever a full-blown country called Kurdistan.

SteveInCO

I can’t recall if there are Kurds in Iran. I know there are Azeris, who perhaps might be happier as part of Azerbaijan.
(Note [to anyone who cares]: the j in Azerbaijan is pronounced like in jump, not like the z in azure. Fakenewscasters tend to assume a j in a foreign word has to be pronounced in some exotic way.)

rf121

The West caused this by splitting the middle east up into countries by geography at the end of WWI. This split tribal groups up who do not recognize these boundaries.

Covadonga

Actually, they’ve always been at war. The Crusades, 18th, 19th, and 20th century European colonialism, and 20th century decolonialization just represent different phases in their eternal wars.

NebraskaFilly

Sorry but I cannot agree – the islamic tribes have been fighting each other since LONG before WW1!!!!

rf121

That is true. But the West sticking their nose where it did not belong just gave another reason for conflict between us and them.

Dora
Deplorable Patriot

Dump your military industrial complex stocks now.
Well, maybe not, but if the company doesn’t have a more diverse product line, like, say Boeing which has its own problems, it might be time to say sayonara.
Can anyone justify hanging onto Raytheon and the like at this point?

Covadonga

We need to buy their stuff to protect against China, or alliance of China, Russia, and their Mini-Me crazies (Iran, Norks.)

smiley2

what about…..comment image

Wolf Moon

Here’s the message, Vlad:

“FIGURE IT OUT!”

Deplorable Patriot

That’s the message I was getting. Trump’s handing this one to the Russians. My guess is the handover has already been worked out in those meetings which yielded zero leaks and all kinds of “well, if we don’t know what was said, we can’t tell you what to think about it” from the MSM talking heads.

Wolf Moon

FAKE NEWS and FAKE WHISTLEBLOWERS!

CM in TN

Stuff like this is part of what I voted for! The Kurds have been having meetings with the Syrian gov’t for around 2 years or so according to Non US sources. If they are given somewhat of an autonomous status such as the ones in Iraq, while maintaining Syria proper, this could turn out to be good. I do not like or trust the Turks, too many Armenian friends have biased my take a bit. Would have no problem with Syria and Russia putting them through the meat grinder. The best part is that we will no longer have to protect ISIS from liquidation. Too many times we and the Turks have saved ISIS from being wiped out at the last minute.

smiley2

he’s playing the long gamecomment image

Wolf Moon

Exactly. And time to make him start playing the final moves to secure Syria and end the conflict.
Putin (and Xi) will LET us be the stupid, spendy chump at the table, while treasonous CIA helps it happen.
Until CIA ran into Trump, who now STOPS the bleeding and makes everybody else pony up or suffer the consequences.
Syria has always been Russia’s responsibility. They all know damn well that Assad is the lesser evil, as ISIS just proved. GTFO is what we need to do, so civilization can resume.
Trump is making sure all the parties with ACTUAL skin in the game solve the problem. CLASSIC Trump.
The trick is keeping FIRESTARTER CIA bottled up.

Dora
Tonawanda

Very proud of our courageous President!

Wolf Moon

AMEN! Saying prayers of thanks!

GA/FL

PDJT THREAD ON SYRIA/IRAQ:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181172467676565505
First reply/comment claims President Trump has thrown the Kurds under the bus.
That doesn’t sound like our man Trump.
What say you?

GA/FL
GA/FL

Oh no – I missed this being in the article above… too early and not enough coffee and concentration!!!

prairie123

It doesn’t sound like him. He doesn’t have a responsibility to take care of them like he does Americans, but knowing what we do about POTUS, he more than likely has a plan. But it will most likely depend upon other leaders in power in other countries making the right moves and doing the right thing. Leverage can be a good thing sometimes (not sure if leverage is the right word here…) but I do trust that he has a plan!

singingsoul1

I heard part of Tucker’s show while driving. Tucker had a military person on who praised President Trump for thinking strategic. If anyone can get that interview it is well worth it. The warmonger cabal does not understand peace but Trump does.

Wolf Moon

Sympathy for courageous communist Kurds is the first slippery card in the cheat-dealt hand that the globalists give us. It’s pure manipulation.
The whole thing has turned into a GAME where nobody who actually HAS the Kurd problem SOLVES the Kurd problem, as long as it makes money for the people who prop up the stable war machine.
MONKEY WRENCH!!! Trump has thrown HIMSELF as the monkey wrench into their schemes, so that AMERICA no longer has to be THEIR monkey wrench!!!
BRILLIANT!!!

GA/FL

OKAY!!! Now I have a better understanding – the smart-wolf point of view. Yeah – now I get it and see the trap they have tried to lay for our President!

Wolf Moon

The unelected CIA is literally running foreign policy here, with a goal utterly unlike whatever the People want. And their goal does NOT appear to involve an intact America when they are done.
TIME’S UP, CIA.
Time to put out the CIA’s FLAMING BAG OF DOG ____ ON AMERICA’S FRONT PORCH that is Syria, and we’re doing it with the SHOES of the people who lit the fire, and all their nasty friends. Trump just locks the front door and yells out “I just called the cops – they’re right down the block – I wonder if they’re going to see anybody in the light of that fire on my front porch when they get here in 30 seconds?”
CIA, globalists. and everybody who set the trap to draw us in, or snickered in the shadows, waiting for the DOG CRAP to get on Trump’s shoes, to be tracked into OUR HOUSE….
Well, they had better all step on their own dog crap FAST, or GET IT OFF OUR PORCH right now.
DANCE YOU SUCKERS!!! It only smells for a SHORT WHILE!!!
Come on, globalists! Put on a SHOW for us!comment image

Alison

Awwwwwooooooooo Wolfie!!!!!!!!
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Wolf Moon

🐺 🐺 🐺 Da Woof is HOWLIN’! 🐺 🐺 🐺 😀

nikkichico7

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Wolf Moon

🐺 🐺 🐺 LOVE IT!!! 🐺 🐺 🐺

nikkichico7

.. ty .. ☺️🤚❤️🇺🇸❤️‼️ … 🤗

ozzytrumpster

So nicely put

TheseTruths

Now Dems will have to take a position. If they support the move, that’s supporting the President; can’t do that. If they oppose the move, they look like war mongers who don’t want to bring the troops home, and it will cast doubt on what any Dem would do a president.
Pres. Trump’s statement is succinct and clear and reasonable: “WE WILL FIGHT WHERE IT IS TO OUR BENEFIT, AND ONLY FIGHT TO WIN.”

A Fortiori

Of all the things I hoped I would live to see, an America that “Will…only fight to win” is pretty high on the list.

ozzytrumpster

No silly roe like only fire back not first. Ffs. Just kill em

ozzytrumpster

Wedged them again.

GA/FL

Would not trust Turkey as far as I can spit. Erdogan is likely to treat ISIS terrorists with honor and turn them loose on the USA.

NebraskaFilly

Oh, I agree with THAT 200% – THAT man is exceedingly dangerous!!!! Should be kicked out of NATO….

kalbokalbs

THAT man is exceedingly dangerous!!!!
^^^ First and confirming clue to me, a muzzie.

Steve in Lewes

GA/FL – Is that the same Turkey that’s a NATO ally?
Perhaps PDJT should tell NATO to get their schiff together or else US funding will start to diminish…drastically. Another ponzi scheme by the politicos to skim $$$$$’s for family and friends!
Another source of the ponzi scheme funding is this BS with continuing resolutions.

GA/FL

Most every nation is vulnerable to need to trade with us – or sanctions can be applied.

ozzytrumpster

Or send them into Europe. Iraq has the right approach (and includes the gore crows-wags) . You got 10 mins in front of a judge to argue why you shouldn’t get the death penalty

fleporeblog
Wolf Moon

YES! Somebody GETS IT!!!

A Fortiori

I read somewhere that we are preparing to turn our attention to South America, and that a reduced presence in the Middle East is a part of this change. This fits with that theory.
I have distinctly mixed feelings about the possibility that we may be abandoning the Kurds.

GA/FL

Speaking of South America…..

China, Russia and Islamists have been making big inroads in our hemisphere.

GA/FL

So did the Bushes and Clinton.

ozzytrumpster

Beaten back like you treat fireants

kea
NebraskaFilly

I do think you need to accept the reality that the Islamic Kurds may or may not be any better than any other Islamic tribe WHEN THEY DON’T NEED US!!!!

GA/FL
Coldeadhands

Think about the bright resourceful & motivated members of the greatest military on earth. When we ponder the lives lost and damaged in endless wars, can we really afford the impact over time in the form of lost potential as many of them would move back into the civilian sector? How do we calculate what never has the opportunity to mature to full stature?
I will bet this is part of Potus’ calculus.

GA/FL

Yes – not wasting life in war is part of PDJT’s pro-life position.

GA/FL

Remember when he held back from a bombing because it would have cost 150 civilian lives?

Covadonga

I suspect that was him reading from a script, like in a movie.
—–
Iran bad. Does bad thing.
CIA globalist chorus: 🎶🎵Let’s go to War! 🎵🎵YES! Now let us go to WAR!!‼️🎼🎶🎵
Trump: OK. Prepare for the bombing.
CIA globalist chorus: 🎶🎵Oh! Goody! Now we get to start the WAR!‼️🎼🎶🎵
[Visions of dollar sign$ 💵💲💵💲$, like sugar plum fairies, dance through their heads.]
Trump: Wait a minute. How many civilian casualties will there be?
CIA globalist chorus: 🎵🎶Our best estimates…
🎵🎶 Yes, our best and nicest estimates…
🎵🎶🎶 Yes, our best and loveliest and most esteemed estimates…
🎵🎵🎶 By our best and most esteemed analysts…
🎵🎵🎶🎶 Are no more than one hundred and fifty civilians…
🎵🎶 Yes, no more than a mere one hundred and fifty civilians…
🎵Dead!!‼️🎵
Trump: 150? That’s too many. Call the whole thing off. Send all the planes back to base. I’m going to bed. Wake me in the morning so I can send out a tweet about how I cancelled the whole thing at the last minute. [Exit stage right.]
CIA globalist chorus: [Collapses unconscious from sudden adrenaline withdrawal.]
—–
Yeah, the script must have gone something like that.
And over the summer, as it dawned on Bolton it was all a script, that was what caused his relationship with the president to deteriorate.

GA/FL

Interesting analysis.

ozzytrumpster

It also removes the best men. The bravest, smartest, most loyal, fittest. Leaving the betas holding the reins

A Fortiori

I do indeed get that feeling. And the ability to explain it to us has been radically diminished by the Russia, Russia, Russia fiasco, which basically precludes PDJT from telling us that he and Putin understand one another and communicate pretty well.

wheatietoo

I missed this official WH Statement yesterday…have you seen this?
https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1181215969970151425?s=20

NebraskaFilly

Uh-oh! Did the Trump Org. just concede to CAIR by cancelling the ActForAmerica fund-raising gala event at Mar-A-Lago? On OANN: “It was abruptly cancelled.” “CAIR applauded the decision and said the Trump Organization did the right thing.”
This is NOT good!!!!

NebraskaFilly

No, sorry – jumped OT there for a minute. ACT is the activist group founded by Brigitte Gabriel. They had a fundraising gala scheduled at Mar-A-Lago and it was cancelled out of the blue for some unknown reason. I just know CAIR had a hand in that – no doubt whatsoever. And it saddens me deeply if POTUS does not recognize this danger. I can’t imagine that he doesn’t so……this baffles me, TBH.
https://www.actforamerica.org/

ForGodandCountry

Pretty simple, really.
POTUS knows something we don’t and decided this was the right thing to do.
I trust him 100%.
And he’s EARNED every single percentage point.

phoenixrising37

Act for America – national security grassroots ?
I looked and they’re being ‘smeared’ I guess, as anti-Muslim group, even as a hate group.
All POTUS needs is for them to hold a fundraising at Mar-A-Lago and viola’ Potus is attacked.

Covadonga

Yes, but rational, patriotic counter-jihad groups are being deplatformed, especially IRL, and now the Trump Org is complicit in the deplatforming.
A counter-jihad group having its pre-planned event suddenly cancelled by the venue is not a one-off. It’s becoming a steady drumbeat, like with non-Leftist speakers on college campuses.

NebraskaFilly

So, you know NOTHING about them? Seriously? You aren’t familiar with Brigitte Gabriel??!!?? Yes, POTUS SHOULD have them hold a fundraiser at Mar-A-Lago!!!!! Pfffttt…..POTUS is going to be attacked regardless. Better he is attacked for something so blatantly GOOD for our country!!!!!

thinkthinkthink

My hunch is there was a security risk and he will do something BIGGER in retaliation after the fact.

Covadonga

Hope so!

ForGodandCountry

Lindsey Graham is a worthless McCain BFF POS.
Guess what?
He’s up for re-election in 2020.
QUOTE:
“Of all the Republican Senators up for re-election in the 2014 cycle, Graham was considered one of the most vulnerable to a primary challenge, largely due to his low approval ratings and reputation for working with and compromising with Democrats.”
Be a shame if he was primaried.

kalbokalbs

Ms. Lindsey is 100% wuss. No Name, light. Untrustworthy.
Rather sure Ms Lindsey has something hidden…with linkage to No Name. Perhaps it is associated with Syria, Kurds, turkey, Ukraine or a mix, dunno.
I will enjoy the dirt coming out on Ms Lindsey, Mittens…

ForGodandCountry

Ms. Lindsey is 100% douchebag and needs to be thrown out of the office he’s squatting in.

Teagan

I have mixed feelings because of his chairmanship….same with McConnell. plenty of very good arguments on both sides. I tend to be practical on such things because of my own experiences.
But, I also live in SC and I cannot think of any person that could beat him…lots and lots of $$$ in his war chest. I have heard him speak many times, and have chatted with him. He’s the consummate politician and will basically say all the right things to get elected.
Tim Scott says he is retiring…I fully expect Nikki Haley go after his seat. She placed him in Congress when she was Governor.

Wolf Moon

Hmmm. Maybe the KURDS will send them to their REWARD with “ALLAH”.

kalbokalbs

Justice for war crimes?

Wolf Moon

Absolutely. And who better than the KURDS to administer it? And a LESSON to every European “migrant” about what happens to jihadists.

ForGodandCountry

Some people need killing. Sad fact of life this side of the King’s return. And the people populating the ranks of ISIS qualify in spades.

Wolf Moon

I love the way this shoves the dilemma RIGHT BACK into the faces of the Muslim-loving (both real and fake) European leaders, who either watch their jihadists DIE, or TAKE THEM BACK.
This is a SOLOMON-WISE act by Trump. Genius.

ozzytrumpster

See above. Iraq dealing with it right imo

kalbokalbs

^^^

Steve in Lewes

Well that wouldn’t be in their best interest. If the Kurds released the ISIS prisoners, they would re-engage and join the Turks.
Just like when Obama traded those scum for Bergdahl, they went right back fighting!

cthulhu

Well, if they’re caged up in some sort of prison, it would be expected that their gaolers might not want to hang around waiting for Turks to show up……and it’s be a darn shame if it took the Turks a couple of weeks to get there…..what with there being nobody to feed ’em…..

ozzytrumpster

Water. Turn off the water. Even if the Turks hurried -in the desert you know.

ForGodandCountry

How interesting is this….?
Amongst so many other things, Trump and his supporters (us) have now taken over the anti-war mantle from the political left, who will now call for continued intervention in Syria because they cannot support anything PDJT does.
And just like THAT (snaps fingers), the political left becomes the war-mongers (along with the usual Neocon suspects).
Say hello to another 500k+ democrat voters who will now vote for Trump next year.

Wolf Moon

The term “neolibs” has been trending lately for EXACTLY this reason. I keep an eye on the idea, and it has come back in a big way lately.

Cuppa Covfefe

IIRC, it’s the DEMONicRATs who start the wars, and Republicans end them, mopping up, and then getting blamed for the war(s) that they didn’t start…
Great that VSGPDJT is stopping that, and putting the DEMONicRATs in the corner where they belong: (as FG&C said) Hobson’s choice of supporting VSGPDJT and his position, or being seen as war hawks (which they actually are, as war brings in TONS of money to their globalist Satanic masters)……

Wolf Moon

Exactly – THAT is the game. EVIL Dems start the wars under the table, DUMB Republicans CO-SIGN publicly and take the blame.

jamcooker

Wolf, I think its GREEDY Republicans that co-sign. Bushes, Romney, and no name, not to mention a whole host of others.

Wolf Moon

I can definitely agree with that. And they are DUMB, TOO, because if anybody should be wary of greed, it should be Republicans!
I still remember when W was in play, before getting elected. An old-school Reaganaut had ONE response when I brought up W’s name:
“Dumb as a stump.”
I disagreed then, but I lived to believe him! 😀

ozzytrumpster

Unkind to stumps

Wolf Moon

LOL!!!

ozzytrumpster

The spirit of the dead tree would be thinking id rather be mulch or firewood

Covadonga

jamcooker: “I think its GREEDY Republicans that co-sign.”
Wolf: “And they are DUMB, TOO”
AND logic!

kalbokalbs

By all rights, at least in my narrow jaded view, President Trump should absolutely win in a massive landslide.
President Trump delivers daily wins across the spectrum of issues.
D-Rats won’t engage on issues Americans care about.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Kurds don’t have their own country. They occupy regions in Syria, Iran, Turkey, and Iraq. Different tribes have different priorities, pov’s, and religions. Although they helped defeat ISIS, they’ve also fought against Assad’s forces. Hot Mess Syria wants them out. Turkey calls them terrorists. US made this agreement w/Turkey in August 2019. There was no “blindsiding”.
https://southfront.org/turkey-u-s-reach-agreement-on-northeastern-syrian-peace-corridor/
Turkey and U.S. have concluded their talks on northeastern Syria with an agreement to establish a “peace corridor” in the Kurdish-held region, the two countries announced in a joint statement on August 7.
The statement reads:
“At the end of the talks the delegations have agreed on the following:
1-The rapid implementation of initial measures to address Turkey’s security concerns;
2- to set up as soon as possible a joint operations center in Turkey to coordinate and manage the establishment of the safe zone together;
3- that the safe zone shall become a peace corridor, and that any additional measures shall be taken for our displaced Syrian brothers to return to their country.”
The Turkish Anadolu Agency claimed that the joint “peace corridor” will be 30 to 40 kilometers deep in northeastern Syria.
As for the steps which will be taken to ensure Turkey’s security, the state-run agency said that the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and the People’s Protection Units (YPG) will be moved out of the “peace corridor” and forced to surrender their heavy weapons.
The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which controls most of the region, have not commented on the new Turkish-U.S. agreement, so far.
Last year, the U.S. and Turkey reached a very similar agreement on the key city of Manbij in northern Aleppo. However, most of the agreement’s terms were never fulfilled by Washington and its allies. This could be the case with the “peace corridor” agreement.
Turkey has decided things aren’t moving fast enough and now want to invade.
POTUS is moving our troops out of harms way.
https://southfront.org/us-troops-are-withdrawing-from-area-of-upcoming-turkish-military-operation-in-northeastern-syria/
I get we want to protect our allies, the Kurds. But to do so would mean going to war against Turkey, and possibly Syria. That’s not in our interest.
This is now Erdogan’s baby, 👀 on him. The world is watching to see if he massacres the Kurds. We have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. I’m willing to bet Our VSGPOTUS undoubtedly has leverage over him to keep him in line.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181227885841002496?s=20
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181227887543894016?s=20

Obama’s fault…
https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1181125761203408897?s=20
https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1181130594585063424?s=20

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Wolf Moon

I absolutely love his trolling “threat” to Erdogan. Such genius!

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

In my great and unmatched wisdom, INDEED!! 😂😂😂

Wolf Moon

It’s the truth, too. SO hilarious!!!

ozzytrumpster

Translation. Don’t fuck this up turkeys or it’ll be the last thing you do.

Cuppa Covfefe

I’m trying to find a non-biased source on this. The PKK are only a left-wing faction of the Kurds, so the situation over there is much more complex than the MCM/YSM would have us see (not to mention Aireheadman)…
I rather suspect the PKK are like the International Workers Party (SEIU, anyone?) and might not represent mainstream Kurds.
Then again, when you jump into someone else’s argument, all that happens (usually) is both (all) of them end up being mad at you…

Steve in Lewes

I LOVE IT! The UniParty Swampers are having a meltdown.
I read early this morning that if Congress is all for this, then declare war; otherwise sign up your and your son’s asses into the military and put your fvckin lives on the line for once.
BTW – Me thinks this may be why PDJT got rid of Bolton’s ass, what-cha think?

Wolf Moon

Think you’re right about Bolton. Trump is WINDING DOWN WARS and Bolton’s answers were all WAR MAINTENANCE.

ForGodandCountry

Bolton never met a war he didn’t like.

ozzytrumpster

Like me and calories

nikkichico7

… uh oh … 😐🤚 … here here ozzy .. heh heh .. 🤫🤚 .. ❤️ ..

Teagan

Lord, do I feel your pain, Ozzy! Just ONE tiny taste and I’m wearing it for months….sigh.

ozzytrumpster

Taste. I swear it’s looking. EVEN AT STUFF IN MAGAZINES,!
it’s science you know
Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Someone’s loses fat it’s out there in the atmosphere looking for a new home. Some folks are just too damn hospitable

Wolf Moon

Exactly. This is RICH NEIGHBOR drawn into POOR FAMILY SQUABBLE. It’s a CON GAME.
See, this whole response is BRILLIANT TRUMP DOCTRINE.
Very simple question.

Do we love our PEOPLE in the military, or do we love ADVANCED EXPLOSIVES AND ALLOYS MANUFACTURE AND SALES?

ForGodandCountry

We love our military. Period. Full stop.
As a matter of policy, we should not:
– unnecessarily put any of them in harms way
– pretend we are the world’s police
– make our military fight with one or both hands tied behind its back when it does fight either offensively or defensively
We should:
– use overwhelming force (not proportional) when tasking the military to achieve a mission requiring the use of force
– not be concerned with what a liberal media would/will say, about anything
– use our military in such a way that anyone considering taking on the might of the US military is the very last option they will choose from, ever

Wolf Moon

AMEN!

ozzytrumpster

Yes. No proportional bullshit. Squash them like bugs

nikkichico7

Here! here! .. 🤨👍❤️🇺🇸❤️‼️‼️‼️

Brave and Free

I think this is a call out to all the war mongers (hello Lindsey) as much as keeping a campaign promise. Kind of like a two fer one, PDJT has effectively put the Neocons and the Left in the same basket now. “Neolibs” He’s exposing them all for the POS they all are.
Lindsey is probably in it deep over there because of his pal Noname.

Wolf Moon

Exactly! TRUMP HAS THEIR GAME FIGURED OUT!!!
https://twitter.com/WOLFM00N/status/1181261035359150081

ForGodandCountry

So simple, so clever, so Trumpian.

phoenixrising37

ForGodandCountry

When they howl, smile and give ‘em the finger.

smiley2

here are 2 very informed …and detailed…articles on this subject….opposing our total withdrawal and why…
these present another side to this complicated (imo) issue…
(1) Hard Truths in Syria….
America Can’t Do More With Less, and Shouldn’t Try….
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/syria/2019-04-16/hard-truths-syria
from May/June 2019
(2) The Scramble For North East Syria…
What Will Happens When The US Pulls Out…
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/turkey/2019-01-22/scramble-northeast-syria
Jan 2019

Wolf Moon
Wolf Moon
Alison

To put this in a broader context, the timing of President Trump bringing this action to the forefront is verrrrry interesting.
Would a POTUS fearing an impeachment vote by House and negative trial by Senate throw this anti-neocon bomb at the Lindsey Graham/Nikki Haley/Willard Romney warmongers right now?
Or alternatively, is this another shot across the bow at the massive leverage POTUS holds over Senate GOPe if they open the doors to trial & discovery. Who knows what neocon skullduggery could be exposed during a Senate impeachment trial. Benghazi, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, $$$$ billions missing from Hillary’s State Dept and Pentagon.
Methinks POTUS is indicating he won’t stop with the Bidens. If impeachment war ‘goes hot’, POTUS is showing the ‘6 ways to Sunday’ exposure he can bring to the neocon cabal.
All while protecting our troops from the godawful ravages of wars we should NEVER be fighting militarily when we can achieve results economically, as POTUS has so aptly demonstrated.
As POTUS likes to say … “We’ll see what happens.”

A Fortiori

I’ve never been a big Lindsey fan, but I too linked his negative comments about PDJT’s announcement to the recent golf game. This conflict is likely being staged in order to impel some result; I’m just not smart enough to know what that result may be.

ozzytrumpster

Potus and ms Lindsay ying yang . I’m pretty sure Lindsay is helping shape the narrative to Potus liking.

PeteC

Believe me, interesting discussions happen on the golf course! Probably as interesting as those that take place on airport tarmac!

ozzytrumpster

Yertle is stealth maga great thread from Larry swietzwhatever the other day. We had it here.

phoenixrising37

Perhaps POTUS has decided it is time to separate the wheat from the chaff………………
in both houses, in both parties………………………….
“Ain’t gonna study war no more, ain’t gonna …………………”
p.s. Erdogan is a narcissistic pompous a$$……………..
and he is acknowledged as the Leader of the Muslim World (see wiki)

phoenixrising37

phoenixrising37

kea

I feel like I should just sit back with a cup of tea and watch this all play out while enjoying everyone’s comments…
Heck of a way to wake our Monday Polar bear! 😉

Deplorable Patriot

Yes. I’m beyond trying to figure it all out other than we get into these wars and the major stockholders at Raytheon and Lockheed make a lot of money.

kea

*nods* yup. I notice you didn’t put boeing into the mix but ever since mcdonald douglas was sold to boeing well….

Deplorable Patriot

Boeing didn’t have a defense division. McDonnell gave them that. Douglas was superfluous with the Boeing offerings. BUT the big sellers are still the F-15 and F-18. Not complaining since they’ve kept a roof over my family for close to 50 years.

kea

Cheers to the McDonnell Douglas crowd!!!

Deplorable Patriot

We MAC brats are many.

kea

MAC brats I like that!!!! *high five*

Wolf Moon
phoenixrising37

Wolfie,
Justin passed away… right?

Wolf Moon

Yes. I just did a “good-bye” article about him. I didn’t realize he had died until a few days ago.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/10/03/a-fond-farewell-to-the-guy-who-cured-me-of-warmongering/

ozzytrumpster

But he can still be contacted and is probably enjoying the show immensely

Sadie Slays

Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I didn’t think the political situation of NE Syria was a top priority among evangelical Christians. “Losing the mandate of heaven”? Over Syria? Seriously?

ForGodandCountry

Ummmmmmmmm….
No.
You aren’t wrong.

michaelh

There’s a perpetual effort to talk about the Kurdish Christians and how we need to protect the weak and defenseless emanating from some quarters of Evangelicalism. The fringes of the Pat Roberson crowd in CBN is a good place – it’s been a long time since The 700 Club was at its peak of influence. International news about Christian persecution is kept by the MCM at an extreme trickle, which means that it is shockingly easy to manipulation Evangelical opinion by unburying this news story in just this way or that tragic event in just that way.
Trump taking the problem of religious persecution seriously – especially international persecution of Christians – is a big step toward separating Christian compassion from those who want us either 1) in wars or 2) to take lots of “Christian” refugees. (Or both, whenever possible. Refugees are big business, especially for churches.)
The other reason not much talked about is plain old fundraising. IJM is a prime example of this – they tell lots of stories about modern day slavery and it’s primarily about fundraising.

Sadie Slays

Thank you for explaining this.

GA/FL

No, they don’t speak for all ‘Evangelical’ Protestants.
BTW – just saw a video of Jim Bakker posted somewhere a couple of days ago. He’s very bald now.

GA/FL

Pat Robertson’s granddaughter who is on CBN is pretty much a never-Trumper.

Wolf Moon
Deplorable Patriot

Those who scream the loudest….

ForGodandCountry

Colin Powell is so yesterday the Beatles are suing for copyright infringement.

Wolf Moon

Somewhere along the way, he lost his mojo.

Covadonga

Maybe in the cabinet meeting where he sat back and let Scooter Libby take the fall in the Valerie Plame affair, when he knew that the leak of the CIA officer’s identity had come from his own Deputy Sec. of State, Richard Armitage?

Wolf Moon

BOOM.
GO along to GET along.