Dear KAG: 20210303 Open Thread


Hopium is in the midst of being censored by YouTube, it seems. Videos from a number of channels where the epicenter of hopium is interviewed and featured have been taken offline. There are two specific people targeted: the epicenter of hopium and one Robert David Steele, specifically.

Why would hopium be censored by the other side if it didn’t pose a danger?

This is the point of today’s non-hopium message: perseverance.

In searching for more hopium to at least stay caught up on what is reported to be happening even if it might well be disinformation, this story of perseverance and triumph popped into a feed. Yes, it’s fifty minutes long, but it’s the story of one man not giving up, and now being on the front lines of this fight. (Hopefully, this one stays up. It’s also on BitChute, I understand.)

What is most interesting about this man’s story, is put it with so many others, and the concept of “grass roots” really begins to show through. Yes, President Donald Trump is our movement’s ultimate leader, but he didn’t direct this man’s actions. Nor did he direct Robert David Steele’s or any of the other video channels and websites out on the internet holding the line.

Each of us has a story about perserverance, and what it took to overcome obstacles that seemed impossible as we were going though it. Some of our participants post about them at length, and no two are alike.

That’s what makes MAGA truly American.

The movement is diverse in nature from top to bottom, just as the nation itself is, and that is our strength. No two channels or forums or websites are alike. Each is inhabited by different sorts of people all with the same goal: take this nation back to its roots whether the deep state and the swamp likes it or not.

Different projects spearheaded by the people – not the government, and certainly not the ruling class – are in progress to further wake up those who are still stuck in the mainstream media echo chambers and have no idea they are being fed misinformation.

That the people invested in hopium are active and financing these efforts off the beaten path…that deserves some consideration for respect.

At least this writer thinks so.

Everyone here, though, will draw their own conclusions.

Now…here’s another great American movie theme about a situation (bounty hunters going after a mob accountant who skipped out on his bail bondsman) that can only happen here.

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Psalm 30/31

[2] In thee, O Lord, have I hoped, let me never be confounded: deliver me in thy justice. [3] Bow down thy ear to me: make haste to deliver me. Be thou unto me a God, a protector, and a house of refuge, to save me. [4] For thou art my strength and my refuge; and for thy name’s sake thou wilt lead me, and nourish me. [5] Thou wilt bring me out of this snare, which they have hidden for me: for thou art my protector.

[6] Into thy hands I commend my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O Lord, the God of truth. [7] Thou hast hated them that regard vanities, to no purpose. But I have hoped in the Lord: [8] I will be glad and rejoice in thy mercy. For thou hast regarded my humility, thou hast saved my soul out of distresses. [9] And thou hast not shut me up in the hands of the enemy: thou hast set my feet in a spacious place. [10] Have mercy on me, O Lord, for I am afflicted: my eye is troubled with wrath, my soul, and my belly:

[11] For my life is wasted with grief: and my years in sighs. My strength is weakened through poverty and my bones are disturbed. [12] I am become a reproach among all my enemies, and very much to my neighbours; and a fear to my acquaintance. They that saw me without fled from me. [13] I am forgotten as one dead from the heart. I am become as a vessel that is destroyed. [14] For I have heard the blame of many that dwell round about. While they assembled together against me, they consulted to take away my life. [15] But I have put my trust in thee, O Lord: I said: Thou art my God.

[16] My lots are in thy hands. Deliver me out of the hands of my enemies; and from them that persecute me. [17] Make thy face to shine upon thy servant; save me in thy mercy. [18] Let me not be confounded, O Lord, for I have called upon thee. Let the wicked be ashamed, and be brought down to hell. [19] Let deceitful lips be made dumb. Which speak iniquity against the just, with pride and abuse. [20] O how great is the multitude of thy sweetness, O Lord, which thou hast hidden for them that fear thee! Which thou hast wrought for them that hope in thee, in the sight of the sons of men.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

Anyone else getting tired of all the racism crap?

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Sadie Slays

Someone doxxed the Gab hackers. Details here if anyone cares:


Thats exactly what needed to happen.

Wolf Moon

Holy CRAP – get all over this guy’s timeline. Whoever these GABBITES are, they are NUKING TRANSYLVANIA.

Wolf Moon

Deeply tied to DNC!!!

Transparency International
Freelance “OSINT Researcher”
Ghost Me
US Congress – Intern
Congressman Steve Cohen – Intern
Pursuance Project – Director of Outreach / Director of Operations
Courage Incorporated – Advisory Board Member
Campaign of Tennessee State House of Representative Gloria Johnson
Democratic Party of Tennessee – Intern for Gloria Johnson
Amplifier – Staff Writer (LinkedIn)

Wolf Moon

From Gab…..

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Gruesome Recall update.

Kevin Kiley (@KevinKileyCA) Tweeted:
The new total is 1,927,000 signatures.

Linda Harrison

If anyone is interested the neighbors (townhouses) who live near or around the capitol have started a website and petition that now has nearly 25,000 signatures wanting the fencing removed from around the capitol.

Don’t Fence the Capitol


Sadly the Bidenese no longer have a place for you to post or sign petitions to the federal government on Further all the old petitions are gone. It should be a wonder no one asks about this, but then the people (MSM) who would ask work for them.


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Time to call Tom Fitton.


Chris Wray and the FBI’s Outrageous Lies About Domestic Terrorism (

The American public has been fed a steady diet of lies about violent white supremacists (aka Trump supporters) who stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 in order to launch an insurrection and keep Donald Trump in power. But this is an outrageous fiction. BLM and Antifa have done more killing, looting and burning than Trump supporters. The facts tell the true story.

  • Trump supporters did not kill a single person, including law enforcement personnel on the scene charged with protecting the Capitol. The lone police officer listed as a casualty died from a stroke, according to his mother. Three other fatalities died of medical emergencies. Only Ashli Babbit was a victim of violence–she was unarmed and shot by a cop.
  • The FBI, according to FBI counter-terrorism official Jill Sanborn, did not recover any firearms from protestors nor have they charged a singled person with carrying a weapon on the Capitol grounds.
  • Christopher Wray lied to Congress when he testified that the FBI had not seen any evidence of anarchist violent extremists or people subscribing to antifa in connection with the 6th. In fact, the FBI has interviewed more than two dozen Antifa members who admitted being paid to infiltrate the crowd of Trump supporters. As Joe Hoft noted in a recent post, Antifa-BLM organizer John Sullivan was at the US Capitol and bragged about wearing a MAGA hat during the riots where he broke a window and stormed the US Capitol.

How can you have an “insurrection” when there are no weapons and no fatalities at the hands of the supposed revolutionaries?

Article goes on to detail Antifa and BLM violence and destruction…….

Black Lives Matter-Antifa mobs caused over one billion dollars in damages in cities across America since May. In Minneapolis alone Black Lives Matter mobs damaged or destroyed over 1,500 businesses or buildings.


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Elaine is as swampy and evil as the Turtle.


Perhaps moreso?


Don’t surprised if we find out her maiden name is Jinping.

Or Mao.

Mao Chao Mao.

You go now.


Wolf Moon

Feisty Cat sure seems a lot like……

NAH. No way.  😎 


I think Catturd did this… 😉


I’ve been thinking… But can’t be…


FYI Wolf:

Surprise, CTH 2.0 Optimized Launch
March 3, 2021

Over the past several weeks/months the tech team behind CTH 2.0 has been working on a test site to optimize the battle-tank known as The Last Refuge. This is phase-3 of the CTH anti-fragile system, know as the optimization phase.  We just went live….

The goal of optimization was to take the decades-old weight of our site, lighten the server load, increase the response time and simultaneously generate a site that optimizes based on the type of hardware being used by reader: desktops, laptops, tablets and mobile phones. Check out the site on your mobile device and you should notice the changes in both portrait and landscape mode.

When CTH originally launched over a decade ago the theme was responsive to desktop and laptop computer users. Mobile platforms were in their infancy. Now more than half of website users are coming to sites from tablets or phones. The optimization phase has hopefully eliminated the mobile issues and made those user experiences easier and more responsive.


Good stuff.

But SD is still a bit too self-congratulatory:

Several website operators have reached out asking us to provide details on the infrastructure being used to stay “anti-fragile”, meaning outside the reach of big tech. There may come a day when that information is possible to share, but it will not be in the near future.

In the words of Han Solo, “Great, kid! Don’t get cocky.”

curl -kIL
$ curl -kIL
HTTP/2 200 
date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:17:17 GMT
content-type: text/html
set-cookie: __cfduid=da6d4d171717d21df790234158115f1cb1614828817; expires=Sat, 03-Apr-21 17:17:17 GMT; path=/;; HttpOnly; SameSite=Lax
vary: Accept-Encoding
last-modified: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:17:17 GMT
x-cache-nxaccel: BYPASS
cf-cache-status: DYNAMIC
cf-request-id: 089ce66228000058d7872ad000001717
expect-ct: max-age=604800, report-uri=””
report-to: {“max_age”:604800,”group”:”cf-nel”,”endpoints”:[{“url”:”https:\/\/\/report?s=PRIzZeQ17sd9LrWYSGE9pYuX3Tgyx6Lr9OvNGh4sFNhDpf3%2FrxlWQGliVzibPcZ%2BiTgpr2Qg0yCtisAvpqetNV3eLWblYWi8CBLswD0jolF%2B8A2HWSCVhLksXVII”}]}
nel: {“report_to”:”cf-nel”,”max_age”:604800}
server: cloudflare
cf-ray: 62a80ce379691717-LAX

Hardened, check.

Out of the blast radius for risk? Definitely not.

Wolf Moon

This kid ain’t gettin’ cocky, but I’ll stick with our “ride”!!!


I should note that this is an invocation of the Linux utility “curl”, using “switches” -k, -I, and -L.

Those would be:

      -k, –insecure
             (TLS) By default, every SSL connection curl makes is verified to
             be secure. This option allows curl to proceed and operate even
             for server connections otherwise considered insecure.

             The server connection is verified by making sure the server’s
             certificate contains the right name and verifies successfully
             using the cert store.

      -I, –head
             (HTTP FTP FILE) Fetch the headers only! HTTP-servers feature the
             command HEAD which this uses to get nothing but the header of a
             document. When used on an FTP or FILE file, curl displays the
             file size and last modification time only.

      -L, –location
             (HTTP) If the server reports that the requested page has moved
             to a different location (indicated with a Location: header and a
             3XX response code), this option will make curl redo the request
             on the new place. If used together with -i, –include or -I,
             –head, headers from all requested pages will be shown. When au‐
             thentication is used, curl only sends its credentials to the
             initial host. If a redirect takes curl to a different host, it
             won’t be able to intercept the user+password. See also –loca‐
             tion-trusted on how to change this. You can limit the amount of
             redirects to follow by using the –max-redirs option.

             When curl follows a redirect and the request is not a plain GET
             (for example POST or PUT), it will do the following request with
             a GET if the HTTP response was 301, 302, or 303. If the response
             code was any other 3xx code, curl will re-send the following re‐
             quest using the same unmodified method.

             You can tell curl to not change the non-GET request method to
             GET after a 30x response by using the dedicated options for
             that: –post301, –post302 and –post303.

It’s a whole different kind of world from MacOS or Windows.

Now, mind you….it is possible to just use Linux nowadays like it was MacOS or Windows — much more so than even 10 years ago. But when it comes down to rolling your sleeves up and doing things “off the beaten path”, Linux has ALL the tools.

Wolf Moon

Even when Windows had that Unix toolkit that you could embed in it – which was pretty cool – it still sucked. Linux is just so awesome. And Mac’s underlying “whatever” is better but still seemingly unblessed. Linux is just the best and getting better all the time.


One of the things that is most difficult to explain to people is why it’s all powered by FOSS.

Every time Microsoft makes an unpopular decision (e.g. Vista, Win8, Win10), people can either keep what they’ve got until it rots (which isn’t long), or go along with it. In FOSS, the source code is open. If you don’t like someone’s revision, go back to the last version and decide the other way.

A bunch of distributions were using the GNOME 2 desktop, and GNOME decided to change things in GNOME 3. Ubuntu changed to Unify; Mint changed to Cinnamon, MATE recoded GNOME 2 from the GNOME 3 codebase…..

Many of the most popular packages in Linux are when some old group “lost their way”, the project was forked (someone decided to go the other way), and now nobody remembers the original project any more.

And this leads to why it’s “getting better”. It’s getting better because it splits all the time, and the “not getting better” paths are rapidly abandoned.


Yep, you got it. I also have to throw “-s” in there sometimes and a little “-vvv” for good luck.

curl is a Swiss army knife. This barely scratches the surface on uses for it. I originally learned w/ wget which I still use heavily. Depends on the job of course.

And then there’s my secret weapon for when I’m in an all-Windows environment. . . shh don’t tell anyone . . .

Saved my bacon on more than one project. Great way to prove when sites are going through the proxy versus local. I hate Windows proxy settings. They are totally and thoroughly busted.

Wolf Moon

Good stuff! Firefox of the commandline! Pray that it not go woke!


Any Linux project going woke would be dropped like a hot rock.

Wolf Moon

I sure hope so. The mind-frack even invaded Mozilla. I never expected that.


How cool that the curl project actually builds for Windows!

FOSS is made out of projects, which are done by various groups for various reasons. Distros are assembled out of projects by choosing well-regarded ones and ensuring they function without breaking other things in the distro. Curl is obviously VERY well-regarded because EVERYBODY uses it. The Linux kernel is just another project in this regard. is a very nice tool to keep track which distro is using which version of which project.

Linux isn’t some monolithic thingamajig. It’s a lot of moving parts — all “gelled” with some of the best moving-part-wrangler systems and software.


If you want to know more about curl, try . I get curl through my distro — on this computer, Mint — which, in turn, gets it from its underlying distro, Ubuntu — who, in turn, follows Debian.

Debian is the monastery of Pure Linux. There is nothing commercial or legally restricted in Debian. They monitor thousands of projects that comply with this and irregularly publish high-quality versions where pretty much everything works together. It is one of the oldest releases, founded in 1993. They are currently on release 10. Their releases have familiar names, based on characters in Disney/Pixar’s Toy Story films — the current release is “buster” (their development branch — by definition unstable — is “sid”).

Ubuntu is privately owned by a benevolent dictator. It is not as pure as Debian — it includes proprietary video drivers and suchlike that are not truly “free” by Debian standards. It insists on producing a complete release on April and October of every year — these are designated by year and month, e.g. 18.10 and 20.04. Each release’s familiar name is an adjective and an animal, starting with the same letter [as you might imagine, things were getting hairy as they ran out of letters near the end of the alphabet]. Every even-numbered year’s April release is designated as Long Term Support (LTS) and will be maintained for five years — thus, you have 17.10, 18.04 (LTS), 18.10, 19.04, 19.10, 20.04 (LTS), 20.10, and 21.04. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is Focal Fossa, and a lot of systems and other distros rely on it.

Mint is a “splinter” or “boutique” distro, run by a guy named Clément Lefèbvre in Ireland. It agrees with Ubuntu about 97% of the time, but thinks that the guys who liked Unity and Upstart were not quite right in the head. It is a very user-friendly and intuitive version of Linux that keeps the horsepower of Ubuntu in its right front pocket. As an aside, I’ve swapped messages with Clem (I can feel the tops of my ears warming) even before I realized who he was, and he’s just a super-nice helpful guy. It seems to have settled into doing a big-number release every time Ubuntu does an LTS, and a small-number release every time Ubuntu does a release. Releases have a familiar name that is based on a female name starting with a letter determined by the big-number — 17.3 Rosa; 18.3 Sylvia; 19.3 Tricia, 20.1 Ulyssa.

Wolf Moon

I made a somewhat obsequious comment in support of SD, when somebody complained about wanting those top paging numbers!

Wolf Moon
 March 3, 2021 11:30 pm
Awaiting for approval

 Reply to  Old deplorableowl

This lack of top paging is a trade-off of the superior commenting system on CTH 2.0, and we experience this trade-off on our site as well. I’ve investigated the fix, and it’s possible, but doing it correctly (best practices AND anti-fragile) is a non-trivial investment of time and coding. It requires intervening at several levels in the WordPress architecture, believe it or not, to do it in a fashion that will meet multiple recommendations which have underlying WordPress security objectives. We are putting it off for a while on our site, just as a matter of priorities. Given the recent Gab hack, it’s completely understandable to want to “do it 100% right”.

It is possible to just go in and copy and paste some code, but….. not a good idea, IMO.


Wolf Moon

OK – something is very weird there. Where do 150 kids come from? Are these teen runaways, for the most part?


How many spoke English?

Additionally, the whole Family Court / Foster Child / Child Protective Services field is a racket run from a cesspool surrounded by official corruption [e.g. this series — ].



Tennessee DCS —


I don’t talk much about my personal life here, however I am going to say something pedophilia tonight. its a horrible trauma and is one of the worst crimes against an innocent child.The Lord warns against hurting children. That being said this past year has in some ways been a nightmare for my daughter and my grandchildren and myself. they fled to Nevada last June after my daughter took my granddaughter to the police to file a report against her father for the sexual abuse he had done to her since she was 5. Silence of the innocent, too afraid to say anything living with it for years.
My granddaughter told her mother because she was afraid of what her father would do to her sisters when she moved out. long story short when confronted he confessed and today is now spending the next 20 years in prison. not long enough for destroying a precious Childs life in my book. I have had such anguish over my babies and daughter going away from us, To know our country is filled with these people makes me want to find out one lived among you is horrific. guard your children well, dont trust anyone. evil is walking among us in these days .


There is more hidden than is revealed. Opening up for sunlight can be painful, but it is cleansing and can heal. I hope that you, your daughter, and your grandchildren can heal from this horrific trauma by not letting it fester in secret darkness, but by seeking truth and light.

Wolf Moon

OMG, I am so sorry. You all have my prayers. Yes – this is rough to hear. Very rough. Just such betrayal.


I was married to a survivor of that evil. She committed suicide at 26 yo, after having two children (one with me). Her sister committed suicide about a year later because she couldn’t protect her sister. The weird part was the ‘protector’ was the younger one.

My son died of a diabetic coma at … 25 and a half yo.

I can tell you that you don’t stand a chance of getting through it if you don’t have Christ. He makes it all bearable. The pain never goes away but it gets bearable.

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Oof. There is serious hurt in those lines. You have my sympathy, however unworthy (I had a sprained finger, once….).

Wolf Moon

This is simply one of the most powerful stories of witness I’ve ever read.


I’m sorry that you’ve had to endure so much heartache. We never know what others are going through or have had to deal with. May God continue to bless and comfort you.


I can’t imagine what you’ve endured, and I will pray for you and your family, especially the one most affected. I never cease to be amazed at how many reports I see of various crimes against children like this. It is unfathomable evil.


🙏 🙏 🙏


Twitter (

Steve Scalise

🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨 Pelosi’s Democrats just voted to defund police departments across the country. RT if you


I didn’t know police funding was a federal issue.


They are going to continue to fund, but its going to the “My way or the highway” type funding as they change priorities and deny programs that don’t meet their new guidelines that include multiple lists of burdensome requirements that law enforcement agencies must meet to stay eligible for funding.

So essentially Steve S. is correct. This defunds but also unduly burdens

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Me either TheseTruths,
I just continue to remind myself that this Congress is illegitimate … fraud vitiates everything! and that none of their actions will stand.