Dear KAG: 20210407 Open Thread

And now some words to consider from Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano from a recent interview:

Abp. Viganò: You are right: the establishment of the New Order, begun under the pretext of the so-called pandemic, makes the loss of inner peace and serenity perceptible to many; it makes us perceive an evil that overwhelms us and before which we feel powerless; it sharpens divisions and disputes between family members, relatives and friends. Very often we are saddened to see how the lie succeeds in convincing people close to us whom we had believed to be mature and capable of discerning good from evil. It seems incredible to us that our friends have allowed themselves to be deceived, indeed I would almost say to be hypnotized, by the drumbeat of the mainstream media: Doctors whom we considered conscientious seem to have canceled their own scientific knowledge by abdicating rationality in the name of a sort of crazy superstition; acquaintances who up until yesterday condemned the horrors of Nazism and communism do not realize how much the horrors of those dictatorships are being re-proposed in an even more inhuman and ruthless form, replicating on a wider scale the experimentation of the concentration camps and the violation of the natural rights of the world population. We cannot understand how it can be that our parish priest speaks to us about COVID as if it were a plague, that the mayor behaves like a hierarch, that a neighbor calls the police because a family organizes a barbecue on the terrace. Elderly people who once fought valiantly and risked their lives are now literally terrorized by a treatable flu. Fathers of families with solid moral principles tolerate their children being indoctrinated into vice and perversion, as if what has been passed on to them and what they believe in no longer has any value. Speaking about love of one’s country, the defense of national borders and national sovereignty are now considered fascist. And we ask ourselves: Where is the Italy that we have loved? Where is the Church that instructed us in the Faith and made us grow in the grace of God? Is it possible that all of this has been canceled in just a few years?

It is obvious that what is now happening has been planned for decades, both in the civil sphere as well as the religious. And many people, very many, have been deceived: first by convincing them to grant rights to those who share neither our Faith nor our values, then by making them feel almost guilty for the fact of being Catholic, for their ideas, for their past. Today we have reached the point of being barely tolerated as retrogrades and fanatics, while there are those who would like to make it a crime to do what has constituted the basis of civilized life for millennia and declare every behavior against God, against nature and against our identity not only licit but obligatory.

More of this interview can be read here.

And what is the goal? The full interview with former Soviet operative Yuri Bezmenov is useful for learning about it all. Usually, this full interview is not available online, but somebody managed to get the entire talk with G. Edward Griffin online and under the radar.

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Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 2481e5 No.10757382 
Sep 23 2020 13:10:36 (EST)
https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/senate-report-links-hunter-biden-to-trafficking-ring/?
No media coverage?
Why?
The same people who control the media are the same people who are part of the evil and corrupt system?
SYSTEM OF CONTROL.
Crimes against Humanity.
You are not meant to think for yourself.
You are not meant to challenge their power [control].
Obey and accept.
Illusion of Democracy.
Illusion of Freedom.
Why does the media push division?
Why does the media incite violence?
Why does the media pit race v race?
Why does the media pit religion v religion?
Why does the media pit sex v sex?
Why does the media pit class v class?
Divided you are weak.
Divided you fight each other.
Divided you pose no threat to their system of control.
UNITY IS STRENGTH.
UNITY IS POWER.
UNITY IS HUMANITY.
Controlled media plays a major role in shaping the narrative(s) to keep you powerless [helpless] and asleep [unaware of truth].
ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.
ENEMY OF HUMANITY.
Q

Honestly, I would love to see the communications plan for this scamdemic psy-op nightmare.

And a little mood music.

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barkerjim

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marymorse

Important to remember that the Vietnam War was a war against Chinese Communism.

duchess01

TRUMP SAYS BAN GREAT MERCHANTS – LOOKS LIKE HE’S FED UP WITH THIS MESS TOO…
april 6, 2021 the marshall report

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/04/06/trump-says-ban-great-merchants-looks-like-hes-fed-up-with-this-mess-too/

President Trump put out a statement last Friday alerting the people to fight back against the great merchants of the earth who have controlled the people far too long with their political woke junk. He said to ban Coca-Cola, Delta, JP Morgan Chase, ViacomCBS, Citigroup, Cisco, UPS and Merk companies! Those same companies require valid photo ID to access the services their companies provide. I say, see what else these great merchants own and quit dealing with those too! Trump, Lindell, O’Savin and others are already testing their NEW SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. The count down to the mass exodus out of what is left of the “once big” social media sites is about to start.

[Excerpt] Read more at the link above…

wheatietoo

“Great merchants”….?

That’s an odd choice of words.

duchess01

Agree, Wheatie – struck me as ‘odd’ as well – an ‘ancient’ word rarely used today.

Went to the dictionary to determine context – Merchant

  • n. One whose occupation is the wholesale purchase and retail sale of goods for profit.
  • n. One who runs a retail business; a shopkeeper.
  • adj. Of or relating to merchants, merchandise, or commercial trade.

Hmmm…

wheatietoo

I think that…”corporate tyrants”…would have been a more accurate choice of words there.

Not all of those names are ‘merchants’, per se.

And being a merchant is not a bad thing!

It’s when a corporation gets big and powerful and uses that power to force their will on the public…then that is a bad thing.

duchess01

Maybe, the use of the phrase ‘Great Merchants’ was sarcasm.

Grandmaintexas

Biblical…

Grandmaintexas
Wolf Moon

YUP – this looks like it!

Linda

Mystery Babylon.

Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Linda

I’m beginning to realize that Mystery Babylon is the cabal.

Aubergine

That was my first thought.

duchess01

PS – just thought of something, Wheatie – the term ‘merchant’ just might be appropriate – as ‘peddlers for profit’ – lol

TheseTruths

It is odd. And PDJT didn’t say to ban them; he said to boycott them. He would never advocate for interference with free enterprise. The Marshall Report plays fast and loose with the facts.

SteveInCO

And yet we continue to see their shit posted with approval.

Emeraldstar

Is there ANY truth in that site’s assertions?

If yes, it’s our job to discern it, to separate the wheat from the chaff.

If, no, then you’re right.

I believe you mistake my position on this matter, and other matters related.

Please don’t infer my “approval” from a comment or two; rather, treat it as “potential” approval, looking to see if there’s any truth – and taking some time to consider even WILD claims.

I’m rather good at separating the noise from the signal, and I won’t often “shoot the messenger” (a re-occurring informal fallacy, as I trust you’re familiar with) before I look at the message.

SteveInCO

You’re not the one posting this, so this isn’t directed at you.

Emeraldstar

Yes I know.

Still …

SteveInCO

The Marshall Report has often posted old links in order to allege something “new” is going on, they’ve posted memes that were photoshopped, and they’ve posted Flat Earth propaganda.

And in this case they played fast and loose with PDJT’s own words.

That makes them *utterly worthless* as a source for anything.

If someone else wants to check out their “wild claims” in the hopes that one will turn out to be true, good on them, I suppose. Everyone needs a hobby. But no one is obligated to accept wild claims as conditionally true or “maybe true” just because they haven’t checked them out. If that is the standard you wish to uphold, then I could keep you busy for the rest of your life checking out wild claims I am pulling out of my ass.

And Marshall Report is, apparently, pulling things out of its ass for clicks. Their reputation is abysmal among those here who have been paying attention.

When someone I normally find reliable makes a wild claim, on the other hand, then it might behoove me to at least read it over twice.

Emeraldstar

10% truth, 90% chaff. Has value.
90% truth, 10% chaff. Has value.

In each case, there is truth to be had – even when the “truth” part hasn’t anything to do with ones MEASURE of truth.

It all comes down to allowing for what one doesn’t know.

And, it comes down to which of the various measuring-sticks one decides to use – not JUST the obvious factual measure.

“Why are they posting this?” is a question worth looking at.
“What do they hope to achieve?”
“Are their claims similar to any others’ claims?”
“What lies are they trying to push?”
Etc.

The best lies are seeded with a kernel of truth – what crumb of truth can be discerned? – even if it hasn’t anything to do with the purported “facts” asserted, but rather *why* they’re asserted, or “how” they’re asserted.

I find it wise to pay attention to EVERYTHING, because they’re ALL “data-points” initially, whether or not one later chooses to toss them.

I WAIT … to accept or reject.

The proper place for judgment is the END.

And we ain’t there yet …

TheseTruths

10% truth, 90% chaff. Has value.

IMO, if it takes too long to sort out the small amount of truth — which can almost always be found elsewhere, on more reliable sites — then I question the value. And I think the 90% chaff points so many people in the wrong direction that the site could be doing more harm than good.

Emeraldstar

You make a good point, TT.

We only have so much thinking resources to spend, and in general, it’s best to spend them wisely.

My background allows me to wade through these troubled waters a bit more easily than many others – it’s tough work for all, but not as tough for me.

Please pardon my conceit!

I would ask, what of the harm to the poster of these “Marshall” reports?

It’s a different measuring stick, I grant you.

We need the power of ALL MINDS here, IMO, to best ferret out the reality of our situation.

TheseTruths

We need the power of ALL MINDS here, IMO, to best ferret out the reality of our situation.

I agree, and I don’t see any conceit. 😀

SteveInCO

I have to thank TheseTruths; that’s basically what I was trying to get at, only s/he seems to have done a much better job communicating it to you.

A site that’s mostly garbage forces you to either consume a lot of time for such little return, or just forgo it as a policy.

You seemed to me to be saying “you shouldn’t dismiss this even though it’s mostly dreck” and I was explaining precisely why I felt justified in doing so. Perhaps I misunderstood.

As for the harm being done TO the poster (i.e., Duchess)…well, I’ve tried asking why she lends it any credence. Someone else will have to take that up.

Emeraldstar

>>”why”<<

Why?

Again, the choice of measuring stick.

Because it’s FUN.
Because it’s ENGAGING.
Because it’s POSITIVE.

Morale – right? Even P45DJT acknowledged the “cheerleader” role, yes? Spirits up!

We’re at WAR – and you’re part of the army (we “Digital soldiers”) – as am I, and as are all here.

We all have our part …

SteveInCO

How good it it for morale to repeatedly have false hopes be dashed? And then to watch the purveyor of same simply reinterpret the bad outcome as part of the plan?

Emeraldstar

Steve – I understand your perspective.

But I believe you’re mistaken.

How BAD is it to promote meaningless, and falseness, and hopes dashed-ness?

I’d rather be on the job of *meaning*, instead of *meaninglessness”.

I want to know what it DOES mean – not what it DOESN’T mean.

I think we may be at logger-heads here …

Let’s let it pass? Yes?

SteveInCO

It means lies.

With that, I’ll let it pass.

SteveInCO

Even if the conclusion the Marshall report invites you to accept turns out to be true, they’d get no plaudits. An argument isn’t logically valid just because the conclusion happens to be true.

A site that is mostly garbage is worth ignoring.

Otherwise why not pay attention to the fake news? They probably post at least 10 percent true things.

TheseTruths

I’m going to continue to point out fallacies when I see them.

I don’t go to that site unless directed, and seldom then, but every time, there has been something “off.” Maybe there are solid articles there, but i haven’t seen them. The one where they posted a photo of PDJT while president and led the reader to speculate it was current, with the attitude of how fun it is to speculate, was the eye-opening moment for me. Truth matters

SteveInCO

Indeed.

SteveInCO

Indeed it can.

They can post. And I can complain.

I’ve never advocated for (say) simply deleting Marshall Report posts. I can wish someone would get a clue and stop posting them…but that’s all I can do…wish.

TheseTruths

Yes, they can. But I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask a group of patriots who are serious truth-seekers to let false assertions stand. I don’t think it’s healthy for a site to have false information posted as true, uncontested.

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SteveInCO

If I had confidence that people were scrolling past rather than being misled, I’d tend to agree.

singingsoul1

I scroll 🙂

SteveInCO

Good for you!

singingsoul1

🙂

SteveInCO

And to be clear when I say that’s all I can do, that’s true not just in the sense that this is Wolf’s blog and not mine, but also in the sense that I tend to agree with him on free speech, and therefore am compelled not to want to ban it.

RAC

Rev 18:11

And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/words/Merchants

Grandmaintexas
singingsoul1

Thank you for posting. I am just wondering what truth is in his case.

Did Gaetz say that on Fox?
I really like to hear from him. With all the psy-op in the last 4 year Russia -Russia and all the other dreck thrown at Trump would not wondering me if they are now throwing dreck on Gaetz.
I was thinking if Gaetz has fallen for the blackmail they would have taken that as a sign of guilt. These people are to much. If Gaetz had gone after jail bait then I would say he is stupid.

TheseTruths

PDJT says he didn’t. Shame on FOX News.

President Trump on Wednesday said Rep. Matt Gaetz never asked him for a pardon in response to another New York Times hit piece on the Florida lawmaker. “Congressman Matt Gaetz has never asked me for a pardon. It must also be remembered that he has totally denied the accusations against him,” Trump said in a statement Wednesday morning.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/new-trump-says-matt-gaetz-never-asked-pardon/

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Gingersmom2009

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Here’s the casual ensemble I mentioned yesterday. Someone on gab had this image side-by-side with Forever 21 Jill. 🙄

Wolf Moon

Forever 21 Jill is priceless!

SteveInCO

At least Jill didn’t look like a slob.

RedLegLeader68

No, I’d say more the hooker mode … just sayin” …

SteveInCO

Don’t disagree.

SteveInCO

I don’t disagree.

Grandmaintexas
TheseTruths

They’re making stuff up. It’s blasphemy, and outrageous.

RF121

This speech from 2012 by Rowland Atkinson, British comedian, Black Adder fame. On reforming some free speech laws. Addresses pretty much issues of today and they obviously did not get things fixed. An interesting hypocritical Obama quote in there too.

Gingersmom2009

Great post DP. 👍🏻 Everyone should carry a print copy of that interview in their purse.

SteveInCO

Some of us don’t have purses…but i get your meaning. 😀

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kalbokalbs

DP, Another great Post. Always enjoy listening to or reading Archbishop Vigano.

duchess01

Flip Flopping Predictions

duchess01

Please pardon offensive language – re – Bronx Tina – but, much of the rest is good even tho’ AJ gets a bit overheated – cannot say I blame him

TheseTruths

Bronx Tina is something else. On the one hand I’m appalled at her language, but on the other I’m cheering her on as a patriot who is not afraid to speak and stand up for what is right. Not many people will take on the governor of NY, but she has put out several videos calling him out.

gil00

Choose Freedom (@MSMsucks_) Tweeted:
@cedantarmatog1 @_RedWalrus_ @TLiberalator Was last June about racism….. https://t.co/4jz3rCbtxg

https://twitter.com/MSMsucks_/status/1379642190809325568?s=20

bflyjesusgrl

Macron just locked them down AGAIN for another 3 weeks.

gil00

Did you see the article about revealing the underground restaurants catering to wealthy and givt elites? No covid restrictions, best of everything, but you pay for it. Im certain this has been going on since day 1.

bflyjesusgrl

From 3 years ago….. WE ARE HERE.

Altering Human Genetics Through Vaccination • Children’s Health Defense

JUNE 28, 2018
Altering Human Genetics Through VaccinationBy
Jon Rappoport

Children’s Health Defense Note: CHD has internal documents in which the FDA acknowledges that technology that allows for the creation of these new vaccines has outpaced their ability to predict adverse events. Shouldn’t our federal agencies be calling for a moratorium until we have that knowledge—especially since it is heavily reported that the CDC/FDA post-marketing surveillance systems are inadequate to pick up problems after licensure?
 
The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) has launched efforts to create a vaccine that would protect people from most flu strains, all at once, with a single shot.

Over the years, I’ve written many articles refuting claims that vaccines are safe and effective, but we’ll put all that aside for the moment and follow the bouncing ball.
Massachusetts Senator and big spender, Ed Markey, has introduced a bill that would shovel no less than a billion dollars toward the universal flu-vaccine project.
Here is a sentence from an NIAID press release that mentions one of several research approaches:

“NIAID Vaccine Research Center scientists have initiated Phase 1/2 studies of a universal flu vaccine strategy that includes an investigational DNA-based vaccine (called a DNA ‘prime’)…”

This is quite troubling, if you know what the phrase “DNA vaccine” means. It refers to what the experts are touting as the next generation of immunizations.

Instead of injecting a piece of a virus into a person, in order to stimulate the immune system, synthesized genes would be shot into the body. This isn’t traditional vaccination anymore. It’s gene therapy.

In any such method, where genes are edited, deleted, added, no matter what the pros say, there are always “unintended consequences,” to use their polite phrase. The ripple effects scramble the genetic structure in numerous unknown ways.

This is genetic roulette with a loaded gun. Anyone and everyone on Earth injected with a DNA vaccine will undergo permanent and unknown genetic changes…

Here is the inconvenient truth about DNA vaccines—

They will permanently alter your DNA.
The reference is the New York Times, 3/15/15, “Protection Without a Vaccine.” It describes the frontier of research—the use of synthetic genes to “protect against disease,” while changing the genetic makeup of humans. This is not science fiction:
“By delivering synthetic genes into the muscles of the [experimental] monkeys, the scientists are essentially re-engineering the animals to resist disease.”
“’The sky’s the limit,’ said Michael Farzan, an immunologist at Scripps and lead author of the new study.”

“The first human trial based on this strategy — called immunoprophylaxis by gene transfer, or I.G.T. — is underway, and several new ones are planned.” [That was three years ago.]

“I.G.T. is altogether different from traditional vaccination. It is instead a form of gene therapy. Scientists isolate the genes that produce powerful antibodies against certain diseases and then synthesize artificial versions. The genes are placed into viruses and injected into human tissue, usually muscle.”

Here is the punchline:

“The viruses invade human cells with their DNA payloads, and the synthetic gene is incorporated into the recipient’s own DNA. If all goes well, the new genes instruct the cells to begin manufacturing powerful antibodies.”

Read that again: “the synthetic gene is incorporated into the recipient’s own DNA.”

Alteration of the human genetic makeup.

Not just a “visit.” Permanent residence. And once a person’s DNA is changed, he will live with that change—and all the ripple effects in his genetic makeup—for the rest of his life.

The Times article taps Dr. David Baltimore for an opinion:
“Still, Dr. Baltimore says that he envisions that some people might be leery of a vaccination strategy that means altering their own DNA, even if it prevents a potentially fatal disease.”

Yes, some people might be leery. If they have two or three working brain cells.
This is genetic roulette with a loaded gun. Anyone and everyone on Earth injected with a DNA vaccine will undergo permanent and unknown genetic changes…

And the further implications are clear. Vaccines can be used as a cover for the injections of any and all genes, whose actual purpose is re-engineering humans in far-reaching ways.

The emergence of this Frankenstein technology is paralleled by a shrill push to mandate vaccines, across the board, for both children and adults. The pressure and propaganda are planet-wide.

The freedom and the right to refuse vaccines has always been vital. It is more vital than ever now.

It means the right to preserve your inherent DNA.

Concerned Virginian

Well —
“If all goes well…” — and what if it doesn’t?
The permanent alteration of one’s DNA — wouldn’t that altered DNA be passed down to any children conceived and born after the recipient gets the DNA vaccine? (the mother and/or the father)
NIAID — Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Wolf Moon

It’s all very ####### weird.

I am having no part of this stuff now.

SteveInCO

On the woman’s side, the egg cells are actually formed before she (the mother) is even born.

Would the alteration make it into those cells?

On the male side sperm cells are formed pretty much continuously, so assuming the DNA change happens to every normal, 46 chromosome cell in the body, the sperm cells will get the change.

Wolf Moon

This is just absolute bullshit.

This is beyond WEIRD SCIENCE. This is WRONG SCIENCE.

Something is incredibly WRONG here.

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Wolf Moon

I’m talking about Fauci and these assholes – not the report.

Wolf Moon

Editing helped! It initially looked like I was saying the story itself was BS.

gil00

You know, if theyve been doing this already for all these years. Theyve been figuring out all the applications too. Researchers are always wanting money to continue, and govt contracts for varied applications are a big boon.
What may be curious to know is what are these Researchers working on NOW?

Wolf Moon

Yeah. The secret research is clearly way ahead of this stuff.

Wolf Moon

Yeah, I think these are the CRISPR vaccines.

Oh, it’s all very clear what these people were up to with this phony crisis.

Grandmaintexas

Thank you for this.

wheatietoo

Alteration of the human genetic makeup.

Yes…and they are doing it covertly.

Covert genetic alteration.

This is not “gene therapy”, which sounds better and the phrase most often used for it.

This is covert gene modification.

And we’re learning that [they] have been planning it for years.
 😠 

singingsoul1

Altering our genetics without our consent is criminal. How is this better than experiments Germans did?
Fauci should be held accountable sending experimentation to China for them to do the dirty work that infected the world.

One thing I wonder though how is it possible that Trump approved this vaccine? Is he informed what this vaccine is all about? Just wondering . Would he want us to be injected with a vaccine that could be devastating?

Does anyone know I hear on War Room that majority of whites have been vaccinated and have had most access to the vaccine?
American Indians reject the vaccine and Mexicans and blacks have not had full access to the vaccine but many will take it when they have acces.

TheseTruths

One thing I wonder though how is it possible that Trump approved this vaccine? 

All I know is that PDJT wanted to end the lockdowns and get things back to normal, and he knew a vaccine would be a means to that end. I doubt that he personally approved any vaccine. He doesn’t have the scientific knowledge and was probably trusting the experts. But this is speculation on my part.

Emeraldstar

>>”end the lockdowns and get things back to normal”<<

I think this is EXACTLY why he did what he did.

Every time I’ve second-guessed his actions, I’ve found out later that I was wrong to do so. I stopped second-guessing PDQ (I supported his decision to approve the pork-laden military-spending bill, and was glad that I did so).

I’m now (and since early 2017) willing to go 100% WITH his actions, rather than nit-pick his decisions.

It’s like poker (Texas Hold ’em) – I’d rather back him totally.

Even with something that could later be judged a “mistake” (dangerous for those of us without enough info), I’d rather take the plethora of “wins” first.

I still think he’s totally involved, in whatever way is appropriate to the situation. One must take the bad (if, indeed, it *is* bad) with the good.

Faith.

scott467

“All I know is that PDJT wanted to end the lockdowns and get things back to normal, and he knew a vaccine would be a means to that end.”

__________

Except it isn’t a means to getting back to normal at all, because the vaccine isn’t an ‘end’ of anything, it’s just the beginning.

It’s a means to an end all right, but not any end We the People envisioned.

The vaxx doesn’t even prevent anyone from getting the virus, you can’t even stop wearing your silly mask or social physical distancing after you have been vaxxed with the Chi-poison.

And for another thing, it leads to passports, which is another (and far greater) means of control.

There is no ‘light at the end of the tunnel’ on the way back to Normalsville, if we just have everyone get vaccinated.

So that can’t have been his reasoning.

.

“He doesn’t have the scientific knowledge and was probably trusting the experts.”

__________

Even if the entire government was corrupt and misleading him, in addition to whatever classified information he can trust, he and his family also know everything we do… unless they really don’t know about the Internet or have access to it.

So he knows.

And he has his survival instinct, honed over a lifetime of dealing with the DS and the media and the sharks, to recognize when he’s being bamboozled, and how to find out the truth.

He knows the danger of trusting an ‘expert’, particularly in the heart of the Deep State Swamp, without getting alternate expert analysis, and cross-examining each one. And if anyone does that, even a little, regarding the entire Covid-Farce, it takes about 5 seconds to realize who’s lying and who isn’t.

So he knows.

He has to.

He can’t be a very stable genius and Chauncey Gardiner at the same time.

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RAC

Almost something space aliens would think up if they wanted to invade and subdue earth

duchess01

Wolf Moon

If Democrats thought stuff through, they would be even more evil.

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MAGA Mom

He is might be right on the principle that the GOP politicians, esp. in some districts/states, might need to englarge their “tent”/supporter base but this is Not the issue on which to compromise!

a) it isn’t that popular and it is not that overwhelmingly popular even among Dems and Independents
and b) some issues are too important to compromise, even to win and this is one of them (2nd & 3rd trimestser abortion for healthy babies/viable fetuses is another example of an issue too important to compromise to win)

This was a foolish move that seems to indicate he is out of the loop and out of touch, being influenced by …???

https://www.christianpost.com/news/over-60-of-likely-voters-oppose-gender-transition-for-kids.html

duchess01

The conversation he had with Tucker made absolutely no sense to me – but, he was against the state deciding what should be between parents and their doctors – I think – dunno –

These guys are ‘elected’ (maybe) to represent We the People – and it seems to me – We the People – are frequently left out of the entire process.

SteveInCO

Bill Clinton–we lost count

No, that’s NOT what happened. We simply ran out of numbers.

duchess01

There is always – infinity – wouldn’t that work in his case and/or that of the other guy who allegedly didn’t kill himself?

SteveInCO

Meant as a joke.

In all seriousness, tt’s literally impossible to run out of numbers. Give me the highest number you think there is, and I’ll give you a bigger one by adding one to it.

We have ways to express any number we have room and time to write out.

And we can write out some very, very large numbers. There are something like 10^80 (a 1 with eighty zeros after it) particles in the observable universe–that’s a VERY rough esitmate–and the odds against some things happening are easily 1 in (some number much, much, much bigger than that), We have no trouble expressing such numbers.

Infinity, technically, isn’t considered a number.

Emeraldstar

>>”Infinity, technically, isn’t considered a number.”<<

Have you ever read “Asimov on Numbers”?

Also, watch out for the passive voice – it’s quite deceiving as a rhetorical technique, and the media-liars use it all the time, to hide agency.

“The majority of mathematicians, by current consensus / convention, treat “infinity” as being NOT a number.”

The above is a little bit more precise a statement, IMO.

SteveInCO

Thanks for the clarification.

TheseTruths

I bet they’re looking for a suitable candidate (woman accuser) as we type. After Kavanaugh, they know they have to be super careful about the lies, though. Too many internet sleuths.

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bflyjesusgrl

The media has only been reporting on the Prosecution so I’ve Been following trial here to get view of BOTH sides. The State had a horrible day yesterday, one of many we’re not hearing about. One of their witnesses will be coming back as a witness for the Defense!
I never realized Chauvin weighs only 140lbs. George was 230. Knee on the shoulder blade, not the neck? More pictures were provided to supplement the video. Fentanyl – 3ng/ml is death, George had 11ng/ml – causes asphyxiation. Chauvin dealing w/Huge combative man, possible excitable delirium, hostile threatening crowd – all factors which made scene unsafe and prohibited him/others from performing CPR and caused EMS to do a ‘load and scoot’ according to Prosecution’s Experts. Recurring, legitimate question, Did the mob effectively “kill” Floyd?

Chauvin Trial Day 7 Wrap-Up: a horrible day for the prosecution (legalinsurrection.com)

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wheatietoo

If they had released the body cam footage right away…it could have prevented the rioting.

But noooo.
Ellison wouldn’t allow that.

Keith Ellison loves Antifuh/BLM…and he wanted to see protests & rioting in the streets.

bflyjesusgrl

Following along here, there is too much reasonable doubt that the jurors are seeing. I predict lots of BLM riots in the future.

wheatietoo

Yep.
They’ve got their narrative and they won’t let the FACTS get in their way.

MAGA Mom

Fake News is the enemy and the corp networks + “journalists” & talking heads pushing fake news are a disgrace.
https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/07/legacy-media-corruption-is-at-the-heart-of-our-national-conflict/

mollypitcher5

Of course they will !!!
They managed to manipulate the Floyd death so well that it became a crossover event…even notable R’s were supposedly traumatized over it. Floyd is the biggest blm martyr of all

Tonawanda

Nelson needed to get a single person of intelligence and integrity on the jury. I have been following Scott Johnson’s reporting on Powerline, and I am not sure there is such a person on this jury.

My total guess is that the best which can be expected are three or four trials, each of which have one or two jurors of intellect and integrity. If that happens, those people will be renowned historic figures.

I doubt that will happen. But it could happen.

And if it does happen, the outcome and ongoing chaos could be horrific.

This is a trial where pure hatred is the driving force of the prosecution.

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Ben Garrison Cartoons

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Your Wednesday Montana moment- Bison daycare, it’s baby season!

http://grrrgraphics.com

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Dora

Beautiful picture! Absolutely gorgeous!

duchess01

Agree, Dora – well done!!!

bflyjesusgrl

Excellent Spring polling by Richard Baris on various issues.

bflyjesusgrl

Look at the vaccine section. 43% possibly have altered DNA, 32% intend to, the rest of us 24% say HELLS NO!!!

pgroup2

Scripture repeatedly refers God recovering ‘remnants’ of His people. IMO a remnant is smaller than 24%.

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duchess01

Ben Garrison Cartoons

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New Ben Garrison Cartoon The Liar in Chief- Resident Biden.Joe Biden is a colossal liar. It’s one of the reasons the ruling caste arranged his election. Yes, Pinocchio Joe is a puppet of the globalists—and he’s heavily influenced by the Chicoms. read the rest of the Grrrgreat post at https://grrrgraphics.com/pinocchio-joe/

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Ben Garrison Cartoons

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Every breath you take and every move you make
Every bond you break, every step you take (I’ll be watching you)
Every single day and every word you say
Every game you play, every night you stay (I’ll be watching you)
Every move you make, every vow you break
Every smile you fake, every claim you stake (I’ll be watching you)
Every single day and every word you say
Every game you play, every night you stay (I’ll be watching you)

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kalbokalbs

Was it Faux News that reported Gaetz asked for a pardon and was denied? (Yes) Perhaps other fake news outlets also. Faux was posted here QTree a couple times. IIRC.

AND, as another poster proved, ZERO women accusers have come out to accuse Gaetz of anything.

FIB and cabal gunning for Gaetz.

gil00

I saw it early yesterday. Faux picked it up, but it was the slimes that had the story.

bflyjesusgrl

Yep, I sensed it was FakeFox News. They are not immune.

CMinTN

Distraction from Epstein/Maxwell possibly or from something else.

singingsoul1

Distraction from something else.

duchess01

I read somewhere someone has called for his removal from the Judiciary Committee – and are looking for an excuse to do so.

Seems to me when they want to get rid of someone they deem a block to their agenda – they come up with something like this.

singingsoul1

Gaetz is fighting Shayne. Wonder if the Rinos in on that and the Bush cronies?
He forcefully speaks out against those republicans who want to control the party but he wants to move forward to the Trump party.
He is to big of a voice and they want to get rid of him.

duchess01

Very true, Sing!!!

gil00

Yep thatll do it.

iammix ☀️ (@iammix24) Tweeted:
Tiger Woods Driving 83 MPH in a 45 Zone at Time of Crash, Speed Was Cause https://t.co/BpGZNnZw0D

gil00

Youve already got your miserable d.a.! Now a mayor too? And its so not about skin color!

Make L.A Great Again 🇺🇸 – RECALLGAVIN2020.COM (@lalovestrump) Tweeted:
Another leftist Soros/Gascon type

“ — St. Louis Treasurer Tishaura Jones, who has been outspoken in her criticism of the criminal justice system’s “arrest and incarcerate” model”

St. Louis elects first Black female mayor https://t.co/2VhCLV7P5B via @nypost

gil00

Wait til summer and the results of the george floyd trial are in. Just like baltimore…let them “have their space to riot. “

mollypitcher5

We all know how the ‘ let-them-go’ model is…epic failure .

singingsoul1

St Louise is hopeless. Sad it used to be a nice City.
I remember when my kids went to St Louise University the neighborhood was already dangerous. Much crime at the time but nothing what it is now.

barkerjim
singingsoul1

Raheem Kasam just reported on the War Room that President Trump said ” Gaetz never ask for a pardon from him.”

Gaetz is being set up even by Fox? Just wondering

kalbokalbs

Makes me wonder about reports last week Barr knew Dodge was investigating Gaetz.

As Trump once said, “stare them down”.

Gaetz needs to stare them down. No wavering. Call out the lying bastards.

singingsoul1

Yes he needs to do that because just working though Lawyers might not get him the results .The legal system is so corrupted.

eilert

Donald J Trump
https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump/posts/106024807991366214
Congressman Matt Gaetz has never asked me for a pardon. It must also be remembered that he has totally denied the accusations against him.

singingsoul1

media lies.

Grandmaintexas

I’m very glad to hear that.

They are trying to take Gaetz out.

VERY INTERESTING.

Emeraldstar

Find what truth you can, from this video on GWP of Alex Jones “stinging” illegal treatment of children – stuffing them in a car, no carseats or seatbelts, being herded from a so-called “church” to wherever the driver was instructed to take them.

The police came, and stopped the transport …

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/watch-alex-jones-physically-stops-vehicle-witnessing-migrant-children-stuffed-luggage-compartment/

singingsoul1

Oh my God those little babies 🙁
Where are they taking them?

wheatietoo

Wow, that looks verrry fishy.

Those little ones may have been whisked away and never seen again.

kalbokalbs

Next sighting on the dark web?

Terrible prospects for their future.

wheatietoo

Yep.
Makes me wonder how many other little ones are being whisked away.
😔😟

gil00

Thats the point!!!! They have so many kids they dont care if they send a few off. LEO will tell you how they trwat children in that culture. They are sex objects at a very very early age. This is a boon to the cabal.

singingsoul1

Sick people .

singingsoul1

If I was younger i would adopt some of them.
The churches who sport this should also adopt these children and see to it they get good homes. This is not the fault of small children.

mollypitcher5

I can’t wrap my head around sending young children who aren’t capable of reciting their parent’s names or where they’re from. Unless a parent tattooed a mark on these kids how would they ever hope to be reunited ?

pgroup2

DNA comparison. Just like a paternity test.

mollypitcher5

Oh yeah, duh!
I wonder if DHS is taking DNA of all the border crossers?

gil00

The ones in san diego had papers and their arms had sharpie written of their illegal mama’s name and number here in CA written on them.

These kids are being sold by their families and likely told theyll be dropped off at some cousin’s or tia’s house once they get here.

They were doing dna…under Trump. This stopped the trafficking. They are being h9nest about anyth8ng with a DEMENTED PEDOPHILE occupying the White House.
What does he care?
Theyve shown they dont care.
Kids of illegals are wirth a penny a dozen, and it shows.

mollypitcher5

Chaos.

Dora

mollypitcher5

Black “leaders” are the 2021 plantation overseers. If they tell the slaves to act like they’re dumb or too oppressed..they do as the master demands and they’ll get a reward ( or they’re told they’ll get a reward, maybe they will and maybe massa will keep it)

bflyjesusgrl

Dr. Mercola, isn’t he the one now being censored for advising us to take our Vitamin D to ward off WuFlu?🙄😏

Mercola, Children’s Health Defense Among Top 5 Sites Targeted as National Security Risk • Children’s Health Defense

SteveInCO

“What will it take to kneecap lobbying?”

How about deregulating the damn economy?

If the government doesn’t have its hands on your short hairs, there’s no reason to lobby them.

If you try to pass some law, people will exploit the loopholes and/or break it–they already do.

MAGA Mom

I have mixed feelings on this just as I have mixed feelings about teh amendment that changed it in the first place.

Would be Very intesting and put even more focus on state legislature elections
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/04/07/bill-proposes-granting-legislature-power-not-statewide-political-parties-to-select-u-s-senate-candidates/

SteveInCO

It was useful to have the states have a check on the federal government (other than the Nuclear Bomb of calling for a convention of the states).

Unfortunately, corruption in the process was huge, and that was the rationale used to make them elected by popular vote (though I think some states already allowed for that).

Picture someone wanting to be a senator being able to bribe his way into that office by “getting to” enough state legislators.

I think a compromise might be reachable: Allow the state legislature to instruct the senators how to vote–and to give it teeth, the state legislature can vote instead of the senator, overriding his vote.

RF121

Or give the legislature the ability to recall a Senator if they are not working for the State’s interest.

singingsoul1

Do not like it.

kalbokalbs

Uh, NO. Legislatures need to LOSE power. NOT gain power.

NOT saying the political parties are worth a damn. They are SCUM suckers in my mind.
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Today received another mailer from Ronna wanting to know why I have not sent her and her fellow dip sticks money. Told them in so many words no, hell no, NEVER.

MAGA Mom

Cleaning up voter rolls in OH – good news as we gear up for 2022 elections
https://tennesseestar.com/2021/01/21/ohio-secretary-of-state-larose-deactivates-97795-voter-registrations/

MAGA Mom

that is an old article (january 2021)… was in my feed and didn’t realize how old it was but it is still good news for 2022 elections.

bflyjesusgrl

Mass Vaccination being pushed over treatments. Individually treatments may be around 25% successful, but when combined, up to 85% success can occur.

SteveInCO

The All Star game is being moved to Denver…which some people cite as ironic because Colorado requires voter ID.

But let me tell you the rest of THAT story.

If you’re a registered voter, you are expected to vote by mail and no ID need be shown…they’ll supposedly validate your signature. If you’re not registered to vote, you get to vote a provisional ballot.

You CAN go to a polling place (not your precinct–precincts don’t set up) on or before election day and vote in person…at which point, the voter ID law does come into play.

But you don’t need to show a photo ID. ANY form of ID, including ones with no picture, are accepted. In fact, they’ll even accept a utility bill.

One time, back before we went mail-in, I used my pilot’s license to vote. No picture. It took them a while to look and see that it was an acceptable form of ID, at which point they took it. I was doing this to illustrate the absurdity of the rules.

bflyjesusgrl

  :wpds_mad:   :wpds_exclamation:   :wpds_evil:   :wpds_question:   :wpds_envy: 

IS COLORADO HIGH????  :wpds_idea:   :wpds_idea:   :wpds_idea: 

SteveInCO

Yes and in more than one sense, apparently.

RF121

When I moved there I don’t recall having to show any ID. Just registered online. Get a ballot each election, fill it out and drop it in the voting ballot box. I can track it after that but who knows how my vote gets counted. I like it as I travel so much. But as we know, ripe for corruption.

SteveInCO

You’re apparently not voting in person.

We DID have that ID law briefly, before we went mail in/drop off, and it still does apply if you do go out of your way to vote in person (I did so this last time).

RF121

Nope. I’ve been social distancing for the past 25 years so I take advantage of automation whenever I can.

Grandmaintexas

Thank you for that info. Puts a different spin on it.

bflyjesusgrl

Was concerned when Parliamentarian said Infrastructure Bills could go ahead under Budget reconciliation (simple majority vote). But now maybe there’s hope it won’t pass. COC hates the Corporate Tax hikes.🤞

Business groups oppose Joe Biden’s “dangerously misguided” plan to pay for $2.3 trillion infrastructure bill by raising taxes – NaturalNews.com

eilert

Donald J Trump @realdonaldtrump
https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump/posts/106024988994295389
Voter fraud in Georgia for the Presidential Election was rampant!

Michael Goodwin—New York Post:
“Reader Matt Conley calls voter fraud identity theft, and tells a story. He writes: “My youngest sibling lives in Missouri and found that a vote was cast under his name in Georgia. He asked the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office if that vote could be removed and not included in the presidential recount. He was told no.
After the Senate runoffs, my brother wanted to know if a vote was cast in his name again. The Secretary’s office told him that they took down the fake online account but would not say if votes were cast. Problem solved in their mind.”
https://nypost.com/2021/04/06/quality-of-life-plummet

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This best-selling devotional has a prayer that literally says “Dear God, please help me to hate white people.” This is a real book you can buy. At Target.
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What a crock!
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mollypitcher5

Chanequa Walker-Barnes is an associate professor of practical theology at Mercer University in Macon, Georgia, which claims a Baptist identity. Her oration was published in A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal.

Walker-Barnes says that she has no interest in hating “strident segregationists who mow down nonviolent antiracist protesters, who open fire on Black churchgoers, or who plot acts of racism terrorism hoping to start a race war,” as such people are “already in hell.” Instead, she desires the strength of God to hate “the nice ones” — specifically, the “Fox News-loving, Trump-supporting voters who ‘don’t see color’ but who make thinly veiled racist comments about ‘those people.’”

She adds that such White people “welcome Black people in their churches and small groups but brand us as heretics if we suggest that Christianity is concerned with the poor and the oppressed” and “politely tell us that we can leave when we call out the racial microaggressions we experience in their ministries.”

I think she’s lying. She doesn’t need help hating whites.

gil00

Racist microaggressions isnt not a Christian assessment. You will get thrown out bc its marxist!

TheseTruths

1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

eilert
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4.7.21: NO MORE HIDING! WE ARE WITNESSING DARKNESS ON FULL DISPLAY! PRAY!
And We Know Published  April 7, 2021

https://rumble.com/vfgc89-4.7.21-no-more-hiding-we-are-witnessing-darkness-on-full-display-pray.html


Dora

gil00

Of course nyt says theyre legal.

mollypitcher5

Aside the big brother idiocy..why, why, why ? The vax doesn’t prevent spreading it. It doesn’t even prevent the person from getting it..only possibly a less harsh bout.

If they do require proof what’s to stop them from requiring all the other shots that they push and advertise…flu shot, pneumonia shot, shingles shot, HPV

Emeraldstar

>>”why, why, why ?”<<

To kill seven billion of us, and so, eliminate any viable chance of opposition to their megalomaniacal fantasies.

They TRULY don’t think they way we do – it’s a diminution of the mind to espouse their ideas, which is why we tend to have problems understanding them.

They’re CRAY CRAY – and yet, they self-think that they’re “better”.

It’s delusional, and entirely disqualifying for ANY leadership role.

They don’t get it.
They don’t get that they don’t get it.
They don’t get that they don’t get that they don’t get it.
Ad infinitum.

It’s pathological …

JW in Germany

WOW! Do not mess with Marjorie! That is a 415lb dead-lift!

Now I am gonna have to go hit the weights again!

https://youtu.be/IrsMbFvSOa0

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barkerjim
TheseTruths

I don’t understand how this works, globally. A number of US governors are banning these passports, and even the Biden fraudministration says they will not impose them. But what if an American wants to fly to a country that requires them? Would that be prohibited? And would that be the impetus to make America cooperate and impose them?

holly

A beautiful sunny, 70 degree day here. Ran some errands in the village I live near and most people were walking the streets wearing masks. Fools. The county website says currently 5 people are “Covid” positive in the entire town.

Grandmaintexas

The zombie apocalypse happened and we thought it was covid.

Nope, it happened well before that and it’s called mass indoctrination.

mollypitcher5

Grandmaintexas

Fear of aging and death seems to be their Achilles heel.

May God bring them to their knees in a most spectacular way.

mollypitcher5

Reality denied , replaced by lies.

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mollypitcher5

Here we go….the story of the toddlers dropped from the wall. Mom & dad already here somehow..must’ve managed to make the trip while leaving an infant behind…
Ok…I’m smelling the incoming Go Fund Me that will make these illegal morons rich.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/07/family-of-little-girls-dropped-over-border-fence-speaks-out/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

gil00

Told ya. Scummy deeds done dirt cheap.

TheseTruths

His Fraudulency is supposed to sign executive orders on gun control on Thursday. No details have been given.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/joe-biden-handlers-unveil-executive-action-gun-control-limiting-second-amendment/

I expect it to be a test case on something that doesn’t affect a large number of people, to prevent a huge uproar. Or maybe HisF is going to go full-bore into war with patriots. Nevertheless, we will not comply, so then what? EOs have the force of law. I would hate to see people being arrested, or worse.

gil00

Not going to be good no matter which way.

Concerned Virginian

Of course Piss-aki doesn’t “have anything to preview”.
That’s because RobberJoe’s handlers are still writing the 2nd Amendment killer EO that they’ll give him to sign tomorrow!

pgroup2

EOs do NOT have the force of law EXCEPT to federal agencies. This does not prevent silly people from obeying them as if they were law.

SteveInCO

Good luck on the huge uproar.

The one “anti gun” thing Trump did was the bump stocks thing. They’re not all that popular and it still caused an uproar.

Rightly so. Most 2A advocates understand that you can’t just say the leak isn’t in your side of the boat, so it isn’t a problem.

On the other hand you still get the Fudd attitude from people who are unconcerned as long as the government doesn’t go after their five figure shotguns or wood-stock hunting rifles.

Grandmaintexas

This will be interesting.

Just my opinion, but we are sitting on a rhetorical powder keg.

ANY type of gun control measure will be a problem.

holly