Dear KMAG: 20210628 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

And we are not alone in believing that:

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

Yes, it’s Monday…again.

But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.

Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil. We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.

If you find yourself in a slap fight, we ask that you take it outside to The U Tree…which is also a good place to report any technical difficulties, if you’re unable to report them here.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.

Please pray for our real President, the one who actually won the election:

For your listening enjoyment, I offer this from Eternal Eclipse, titled ‘Oathkeeper’:

And this 3-song mix from Emil Nilsson, track titles: ‘In Motion’, ‘Together We Stand’ and ‘Unite’:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

I will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.

Wheatie’s Word of the Day:


Somnolent is an adjective which means…drowsy; sleepy; having an inclination to sleep; in a condition of incomplete sleep; semicomatose.

Used in a sentence:

Demoncrats may try to pass off the behavior of the Fraud in the White House as merely somnolent, but it is more likely a display of dementia.

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Wolf Moon

It’s no accident – they do it on purpose and LIE LIKE THE CCP.


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Boom. 💥💥💥💥

Wolf Moon

THAT is so truth-filled, it hurts.


It is, isn’t it? Painful.


You awake? No thread appearing for 6/30.

Wolf Moon

Just saw this! Looks like it resolved! 😉


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Wolf Moon

Oh, that’s good!


As the box confirms, Hoe takes orders, AND delivers excitement. Just ask Willy.


This is 1984. They tell one lie one day and reverse it the next day.

“The good news is science has suddenly changed its mind and decided that the experimental genetic modification will actually provide lifetime protection against Covid:…”


I agree with this part:

“The bad news, of course, is that this assumes a life expectancy of 4-6 months, followed by death by heart attack and/or blood clots. 

“Translation: these shots are killing and damaging so many people that Big Pharma needed to produce an excuse not to provide the booster shots.”

Wolf Moon

The Dems just go from one “trust the science” to the next exact opposite one without batting an eye.


Dems wrap their lies up in “trust the science”, racist…

Fake news and big tech applies the wrap up smear everyday.


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Wolf Moon

Do we have mug shots of the Manhattan DAs? These people are clearly criminals.

Wolf Moon

See the “Oathbreakers” thread.


IF our DOJ had any decency or sense of “Right”, them asshoes would stop persecuting trump and his family.

Just as there should be screaming outrage at the persecution of folks rounded up January 6th, there should be screaming outrage at DOJ, FBI, IC, Manhattan shit heads…


Something is about to happen. Always be prepared.

“Imagine if FBI field offices were forced to close by state action taking back ownership of the property by eminent domain. Imagine if state national guard elements were instructed not to comply with federal requests for support. Extreme federalism is local sheriffs, constitutional officers, rebuking unconstitutional decrees and refusing to comply with federal agencies.”

Wolf Moon

100%. This is the “peaceful option”. Wolf approves.

The FIB does not add value. Get them the hell out.



This is extremely important yet it is in the shadows.

Don’t give up on the technical part of the article. The educational part is toward the end and it is important that every Qtree denizen understand what is about to happen and why.


Many thanks.


The Deep State was hoping cancer would keep me from prowling the web.


Concerned Virginian

You just keep on prowling the web!




Warriors cannot be held down.


^^^ For what I comprehend, interesting. ^^^

Article mentions Brits, but IS a global agreement. This point may be in the article, but I glossed my way through the article.

My uninformed old farts view remains…

As suggested in a number of Saturday threads, likely other threads, physically holding precious metals (gold, silver…) is far superior AND less risky than holding “paper” ownership of precious metals. Nor would I ever trust a paper that says I own actual precious metals in some companies vault..

I “trust” investment companies as much as I trust Uniparty asshoes. N O N E.

Of course I also believe ammo has “value” in more ways than one.

BTW, PG, As with everyone, thrilled you are back AND praying things work in your favor!

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“As suggested in a number of Saturday threads, likely other threads, physically holding precious metals (gold, silver…) is far superior AND less risky than holding “paper” ownership of precious metals.”


Very much agreed on the ‘physical’ vs. ‘paper’.


“Nor would I ever trust a paper that says I own actual precious metals in some companies vault..”


This appears to be the classic / constant problem. Having physical metal in your possession appears to eliminate counterparty risk, but then creates a different kind of risk, i.e., you can’t guard your gold 24/7, and if you have a substantial amount and that becomes known by anyone, it can become a dangerous situation (home invasion, burglary, etc).

Which is why many people choose vault storage, which introduces a whole new set of risks.

The other problem (for both home storage and vault storage) is the potential (or likelihood) of government confiscation, once the wheels come off. They have done it before, and the government wasn’t nearly as corrupt then as it is now.

The obvious way to deal with that problem is offshore vault storage, but again there are counterparty risks which must be evaluated.

A big one is that many offshore vaults (and all domestic vaults, by default) have a Force Majeure clause which basically states that if any vault client’s home country has a ‘nationalization event’ (i.e., confiscation), the vault will defer to the government i.e., turn their client’s gold and silver over to the client’s government (<— BIG haz sadz face goes right there!)

Which defeats the whole point and purpose for getting offshore vault storage in the first place.

So that is an important risk to overcome.

It’s a fascinating game, even if you’re not actually a player in the game. Or if you were a player, but you lost all your gold in that boating accident, with your guns and ammo, as happens so often.

I call the game “Everybody is trying to get your Gold“.

And the object of the game is to keep anyone from actually getting it.

It could easily be turned into an educational board game, like ‘Monopoly‘… 😁

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Paper is worthless ask some of my relatives after WWI


I once read (many moons ago) that most of the gold ‘confiscated’ by FDR’s order was voluntarily turned over. Ever since, I have wondered what would have happened if the population refused to give up its gold.

Which is what would happen today, should any govt be dumb enough to try it.


I have been following this (Basel III) for a couple of months now. I would estimate at least 10 long articles on the subject, 5 or 6 hour-plus long videos on Basel III, and commentary from multiple gold-bug / silver bug analysts, both their public online comments and subscription newsletter comments.

The reaction has been some thinking the implementation of Basel III will revolutionize the precious metals market, eliminating the ability for the manipulative bullion banks to suppress the prices of precious metals with infinite naked short selling, which they have apparently been doing since COMEX was created, circa 1971.

Others point out the obvious problem, i.e., why would the criminals, who control and suppress the bullion market, give up that control? This leads to people suspecting there is some other method of manipulation available, which will mitigate the hoped-for effect that precious metals price suppression would cease (once Basel III goes into effect).

Others point out that while Europe is implementing Basel III today (June 28), the UK (and specifically London, the heart of banking and bullion trading in Europe) does not implement Basel III until early January of 2022, in which case there should be no substantial effect on the bullion market until then.

The basic logic for Basel III having a positive effect is sound, but that doesn’t mean the markets are going to react as they should, because as many people claim, we don’t actually have ‘markets’ anymore. Everything is manipulated.

So most of the analysts I have been reading end up taking a ‘wait and see’ approach, because while the fundamental case/argument for Basel III having a positive impact for legitimate price discovery in precious metals, all of these analysts have been snookered by the manipulative bullion banks for decades, so they’ll believe it when they see it.

Also, since the active traders are ‘forward looking’ and this information about Basel III has been all over the Interwebs for at least two months now, any price action shift should certainly be ‘priced in’ to the gold and silver futures contracts by now.

And finally, based on the most recent COT (Commitment of Traders) report, the big 4/8 bullion banks did not significantly reduce their short positions in silver, and actually increased their short positions in gold.

Ed Steer (who wrote for Doug Casey Research for years and is in close alignment with Ted Butler, a professional commodities trader on Wall Street for 25 years) points out that it’s the Big 4/8 banks (and more recently, mostly the Big 4) who are short the silver and gold (and platinum and palladium) markets, against everyone else.

In other words, all commercial traders (which Ed Steer refers to as “Ted’s Raptors”, referring to Ted Butler) are net LONG on precious metals contracts, and the Big 4/8 banks are net SHORT.

“As Ted Butler has pointed out on many occasions, the short positions of the Big 8 traders in general — and the Big 4 short commercial traders in particular, are the sole reasons that precious metal prices aren’t at the moon already, as every other group of traders in the COMEX futures market are net long against them in all four precious metals…including all the rest of the traders in their respective commercial categories.

In the COT discussion further down, the commercial traders decreased their short position in both gold and silver by very decent amounts during the reporting week. The Big 4/8 traders also decreased their short position in silver and in gold. However, the surprise was that in gold, the Big 4 traders actually increased their short position by a bit.”

The problem is that the Big 4/8 banks have been playing this game for decades. Since there is limited transparency and (effectively) zero regulatory accountability, the Big 4/8 banks can basically engage in infinite naked short selling to suppress precious metals prices.

Basel III would change this in theory, requiring the Big 4/8 banks to actually have possession of the gold and silver they short, which would ruin the whole game for them.

As Ed Steer (and Ted Butler) see it, the Big 4/8 are currently trapped in their gigantic SHORT positions. They need precious metals prices to go down in order to get out of their Short Contracts without losing a ton of money, but ‘Ted’s Raptors’ (non-Big4/8 bank commercial traders) are competing for the physical metal every time the Big4/8 banks drive the price down with naked short selling.

So the Big 4/8 can’t get out of their short positions, but they can keep rolling them over (if I understand correctly) into the next futures contract. At least until or unless Basel III prevents them from shorting precious metals they don’t actually own and have in their possession.

If I remember correctly, COMEX isn’t subject to the European Basel III regulations, except to the extent that most of the contracts on the futures markets are apparently between COMEX (in the U.S.) and London, so if London is affected (presumably in January of 2022), then COMEX won’t have anyone to trade with, so effectively COMEX speculative futures trading would be shut down, not because Basel III regulations applied to COMEX, but because COMEX wouldn’t have anyone (London) to trade futures contracts with.

Commercial hedgers (mining companies who use futures to hedge against price fluctuation, the same as farmers hedge against price fluctuation for their produce) would still take place on COMEX, but apparently that is a small fraction of the market, which (apparently) is mostly speculators.

The speculation is facilitated by ‘paper’ contracts without any underlying or physical or ‘allocated’ gold and silver to support the contracts. Basel III seeks to eliminate the ‘paper’ contracts and turn the market back into a physical metals market, in which case the prices of precious metals would no longer be so easily manipulated.

Ed Steer: “Here’s Nick Laird’s “Days to Cover” chart, updated with the COT data for positions held at the close of COMEX trading on Tuesday, June 22. It shows the days of world production that it would take to cover the short positions of the Big 4 — and Big ‘5 through 8’ traders in each physically traded commodity on the COMEX.

I consider this to be the most important chart that shows up in the COT series — and it deserves a minute of your time. ”

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According to the chart above, the Big 4/8 banks are short the equivalent of 150 days of worldwide silver mine production.

In other words, the only way out for the Big4/8 banks (who are massively short the precious metals markets) is to either cover their shorts by buying long contracts to offset the shorts (driving up the price in the process, which defeats the purpose), or to fulfill the short contracts by delivering physical bullion.

And in order to deliver the physical bullion, even if they could somehow exclude the entire market and take all mining production for themselves, it would take 150+ days of global silver production to fulfill their short positions.

In other words, it is impossible for the Big 4/8 to cover their short positions by buying on the open market (which would cause spot prices to skyrocket, because then everyone in the market would be long and nobody would be short), and they cannot make ‘good delivery’ on their short positions, because even if they obtained all global silver production (which they can’t), it would take 150+ days to do it.

So they’re trapped in their short positions.

Ed Steer: “As I pointed out in the COT commentary, they’re stuck — and there’s only two ways out for them…deliver physical metal into their short positions, or buy longs and cover that way.

The situation regarding the Big 4/8 shorts continues to be beyond obscene, twisted and grotesque…especially the Big 2/4 — and as Ted correctly points out, its resolution will be the sole determinant of precious metal prices going forward.”

Just like almost everything else we become aware of, this ‘war’ has been going on for decades.

But more than ever, for a whole wide variety of reasons, things appear to be coming to a head, in the precious metals / commodities markets.

Just like everything and everywhere else… like everything is on the verge of something big happening… and nobody is exactly sure what it will be, or how it will play out… but something is happening… 👍 😁

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Great post. The “Days To Cover” chart eye popping easy to understand. The Big 4/8 surely appear to be in precarious position.


Okay, now we know something fishy is going on:

Agency that investigated fall of Twin Towers could probe Florida condo collapse

h/t B.b.S.s.Saint


That clinches it for me. Something fishy for sure


Yup. “Fishy” since the seaside tower(s) came down. NOTHING reasonably suggests they came down on there own.


Don’t be sheep.

Wolf Moon

Sundance calling this correctly. His first paragraph is TRUTH.

REPORT: Politically Corrupt Manhattan DA Will Not Charge President Trump

June 28, 2021 | sundance | 76 Comments

Apparently, if confirmed, the guiding hands that pull the puppet strings within the justice department have weighed the benefit of starting a full-scale civil war and determined it is not in their best interests, at least at the moment, and possibly not until they can get COVID lockdown 2.0 triggered, to anger 100 million very focused American patriots.


I’m sure DJT was looking forward to being charged and arrested.

Talk about focusing the attention of the entire planet in one place at one time… he could drop any truth bomb he wanted, and the entire planet would be listening 👍😁


That would be too much for my heart to bear. Massive coronary for sure.


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Radical Left New York City and State Prosecutors, who have let murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and all other forms of crime skyrocket to record levels, and who have just announced that they will be releasing hundreds of people involved in violent crime back onto the streets without retribution of any kind, are rude, nasty, and totally biased in the way they are treating lawyers, representatives, and some of the wonderful long-term employees and people within the Trump Organization. After hundreds of subpoenas, over 3 million pages of documents, 4 years of searching, dozens and dozens of interviews, and millions of dollars of taxpayer funds wasted, they continue to be “in search of a crime” and will do anything to frighten people into making up the stories or lies that they want, but have been totally unable to get. In an unprecedented move, they retained an outside “Never Trumper” lawyer from a Trump-hating law firm to work on the case. It is a continuation of the greatest Witch Hunt of all time.

Now they are issuing ultimatums, working in close conjunction with the Washington, D.C. hacks who have been investigating me from the day I came down the escalator in Trump Tower, but who have failed. In fact, the guilty parties were these prosecutors’ partners in crime, the Radical Left Democrats and friends. They will do anything to stop the MAGA movement (and me), even if it involves prosecutorial misconduct and harassment of a political opponent, which they are using at levels rarely seen before. They leak, they lie, and they campaign based on information that has already been gone through in other of the many investigations I have put up with. 

Now they just leaked that we were given one day, today, to make our case about things that are standard practice throughout the U.S. business community, and in no way a crime. They also know that no matter how strong our case, they will work hard to embarrass us and the Republican Party. 

Having politically motivated prosecutors, people who actually got elected because they will “get Donald Trump,” is a very dangerous thing for our Country. In the end, people will not stand for it. Remember, if they can do this to me, they can do it to anyone! Why would anyone bring their company to New York, or even stay in New York, knowing these Radical Left Democrats would willingly target their company if viewed as a political opponent? It is devastating for New York!

These Witch Hunters are relentlessly seeking to destroy a reputation of a President who has done a great job for this Country, including tax and regulation cuts, Border control, rebuilding the Military, and developing the vaccine in record time—thereby saving our Country, and far beyond. Washington, D.C. and ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court, should finally stop these vicious, angry, and highly partisan prosecutors. They are a disgrace to our Nation!


Wolf Moon

OK, that’s just fracking communism ON OUR BORDERS.

President Wolf would have an invasion option on his desk TONIGHT.


Crazy days watching it all unfold. They instituted a two-fer…no collaboration and no free speech


Krapernick needs to hurry and get his homosexual persona going…there’s a new cause taking over. All those people still watching…had enough yet?


It doesn’t auto play so I can save you the trouble. It’s as stupid as the title suggests


I think it also says football is a lot of other things, like transgender, etc. My favorite reply from another site: “Football is dead.”


Short of Rodeo, ALL professional sports are dead, to me.


I noticed Hockey stopped putting up BLM on their Jumbotron things, so there is that. However that’s about the extent of my interest in Hockey and my interest gets progressively worse when talking about other sports.


Football isn’t gay, but the ‘big, strong’ gay boys running the NFL are flaming homos, that’s for sure!

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…and very proud of it


So what’s this mean. No more cheerleaders?


I can’t wait for the iconic pics of tumbleweeds rolling by empty charging stations


It’s pure insanity, exactly the same as the Globull Warming religion.

And contradictory, because the ‘carbon footprint’ required to produce an electric car and keep it running, not to mention the ‘carbon footprint’ (and fossil fuels) required to build 500,000 charging stations, is HUGE.

And electric cars are expensive.

How are ‘disadvantaged communities’ going to afford electric cars?

Everything about it is a Leftist fantasy fueled by taxpayer dollars, with zero basis in reality.


Can “disadvantaged communities” afford electric cars?


How will it work I wonder…during the punitive rolling brownouts however will ‘they’ manage to supply the electricity ?
Also I’m quite sure that they’ll have OBiden cars…the Dems will print up monopoly $$ in vouchers so the POC population can git thereselves a ecar…. and their
communities will not have brownouts.
Sounds harsh but it’s crystal clear that the only people in this country that will be eligible for any perks are solely the POC, the queer and illegals. Nobody else need apply


So wrong. If it was “needed” the market would step in and provide it. No need for govt subsidies which is what she’s talking about. This is what happens when you push a product, in this case a govt ‘want” that no one is really that interested in. End result is the tax payer ends up paying through the nose and real cost will show up down the road in many different places.

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“We’ve got another scam cooked up…you’ll *love* it! We are gonna offer electric cars and charging stations to people who don’t need it or want it, but it sounds sooo good as a virtue signal to our supporters. Meanwhile, of course this is just a cover for stuffing half the money into our pockets as fast as we can stuff! God Bless The Sheeple!”

Fking faux bidden didnt win!


Trump says stop vaccinating kids. Biden continuing to push for kids to get the jab.

US Senator Ron Johnson held press conference with families who are victims of the COVID vaccine Monday at the Federal Courthouse in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
The families from across the country came to talk about the adverse reactions they have experienced after taking a COVID-19 vaccine.
Just last week the CDC admitted they were finding more cases of rare heart inflammation than expected in young adults who took the COVID vaccine.


I’m about halfway through this. The people’s stories are heartbreaking. They have been robbed of their health, and their lives will probably never be the same. The medical profession has no clue how to treat them.

I don’t know why some people are so severely affected while others have no obvious symptoms…yet. I have doubts about this being because some get saline shots. 🤔


And worse, it seems that when the medical profession doesn’t know how to treat something, they say it’s all in the patient’s head. IMO, this is abuse.


New Political Moonshine article:

Confirmations From Federal Whistleblower Dr. Jonathan McGreevey – AKA John Here To Help
June 28, 2021

Intro:You may know him on the corrupt and censorship laden platform Twitter as @Johnheretohelp; however, the individual behind the curious pink pig is a federal whistleblower now identified as Dr. Johnathan McGreevey. McGreevey’s heritage, education, experience and resume make him central to all things including U.S. bio-warfare, COVID-19, compromised personnel within the DOJ and intelligence community, China/the CCP, and all of the corruption, crime and treason affiliated with the undoing of this once proud constitutional republic so that it may be handed over to the Globalist’s new tip of the spear, which is supplanting the old American tip – China.

McGreevey has been delivering the goods for sometime now and those of us at Moonshine have been consuming and sharing his content regularly for a couple of years. At this juncture and in conjunction with his Senate run, McGreevey is emerging from the shadows to be more visible and forward with his knowledge and evidence.

McGreevey’s decision to go public with his identity coincides with a clear picture that Americans are living through the deliberate destruction of the United States at the hands of China and a globalist cabal; and it has us all in the midst of an irregular, asymmetrical and undeclared third world war that few seem to recognize and the ones who do are mostly on the wrong side.

Moreover, recent air strikes ordered in Syria by the Chinese proxy Joe Biden have us on the brink of this war turning hot given that Syria has been our prognosticated spark to the powder keg for years.”


Concerning the very last, make of it what you will. Return fire, by supposed Iranian backed operatives.

Same region the day before Putin and Biden sat down.

One month prior (all three of these appear to be in the same corner of Syria)


Here is a new video from Chris Marcus on Basel III, interviewing Rafi Farber:

Chris regularly refers to himself as a ‘conspiracy theorist’ and refers to all kinds of stuff we talk about here regularly. Sometimes I wonder if Chris Marcus isn’t a regular poster here… 😁


Rafi Farber publishes a newsletter called “End Game Investor” under the name AustroLib (his perspective is based on the Austrian School of economics) at


Just watching this video now, at the 11:00 mark, Chris Marcus asks Rafi a question about MK Ultra… 😂 🤣 😂

What are the chances?

This is a guy who analyzes the SILVER market, asking about MK Ultra…

Chris Marcus has to be a member here… 👍 😂

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Wolf Moon

FFS. The thinktanks are on duty 24/7


Give them time, they’ll have us paying actual reparations to the Orcs soon enough.


‘Is it any surprise why President Trump keeps asking “Where’s Durham?“…. while We The People simultaneously accept Durham was meant as nothing more than a duplicitous ploy to quell outrage while advancing a coordinated background effort on behalf of DC interests.’


How many “white hats” supposedly doing secret work behind the scenes have turned out to be complete black hats (and at best, grey hats/squishy moderates)? How long did we wait, pacified, hoping and watching, thinking reality was just a game the white hats were playing and that all was really well behind the scenes?

Now, how many regret not going to DC because they thought it was all going to be ok and something big was about to drop? I know of 2 families and 1 couple that told me they “knew” President Trump would still be POTUS on 1/20 and Biden would never take office.

So disappointing … Durham, Barr, and so many more that we were told were playacting in public but all was ok behind the curtain.


And yet Trump knew, and did nothing to alert the People, besides a few of his usual sarcastic jabs…

At every point along the way, there were things DJT could have done to dramatically change the outcome, and he did not.

Not just one fork in the road, but LOTS of them, any one of which he could have taken, but didn’t.

So the only thing that makes sense (to me) is that he wanted things to go the way they went.

Because if he didn’t, then it becomes impossible to come up with a good reason why he didn’t choose a different course of action.

We can explain away a few of them, maybe even a bunch of them, but we can’t explain away ALL of them.

He had hundreds of opportunities to expose, reveal, challenge, focus the public’s attention, etc.

Nearly every time he could have pushed either the “expose/reveal/show the truth” button or the “Let the bogus narrative keep rolling” button, he chose the latter, and not the former.

So it’s hard to believe DJT did not want things to end up more or less where they are now.

Meaning either he sold us out — which I don’t believe at all — or we’re waiting for whatever comes next.

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Meaning either he sold us out — which I don’t believe at all — or we’re waiting for whatever comes next.”

I suppose if he wanted to sell us out he could have just stayed a Democrat. “Waiting for what comes next” is an interestingly vague turn of phrase. Do you have any conjectures on what that might be?

Finally what news from Arizona?


How long did we wait, pacified, hoping and watching, thinking reality was just a game the white hats were playing and that all was really well behind the scenes?

I was never pacified.
I never thought reality was a game played by white hats.
I never thought all was well behind the scenes.

We are in a monumental battle. Things are never “well” because even when plans go right, there is always a new fight to engage in.

This is a veiled reference to Q posts by someone who doesn’t understand “trust the plan” at all. This kind of rhetoric that is calculated to covertly persuade, while subtly communicating “I told you so,” is why I don’t read OT.


Thank you. That gave me the same feeling, These Truths.


Thanks. It’s good to know I’m not the only one who sees it. 😊


Eeyore alert.

We The People simultaneously accept Durham was meant as nothing more than a duplicitous ploy to quell outrage while advancing a coordinated background effort on behalf of DC interests.

I “accept” nothing of the sort. There is not enough data at this point for me to make that determination. I am so tired of people making these pronouncements.

Did Durham’s existence “quell outrage”? Was there a pressing need to “quell outrage”? As if there would have been violence, otherwise? I do not accept that.