2021·07·31 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Kamala Harris has a new nickname since she finally went west from DC to El Paso Texas: Westward Hoe.

Colorado Statehood Day

Once upon a time, this actually mattered. Colorado became a state on August 1, 1876. Because of the year, it is known as the “Centennial State” and I remember, buried in the Bicentennial hype, Centennial hype as well. We even managed to get Congress to order the mint to strike us a medal. (If you took a tour of the Denver mint and bought the souvenir set, you got a cent, nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar, and one of these, all of course struck at the Denver mint. [Yes, you did not get the bicentennial Ike dollar.])

Of course today this matters not one damn bit. I was once proud of this state, and am still proud of what it once was. But now August 1 is just a date when many absolutely stupid or outright tyrannical laws passed by our so-called “representatives” convened in the City and Cesspit of Denver, become effective.

Do I blame the Democrats? Yes. Do I blame the Republican RINOs? Yes. Do I blame the Libertarian Party for pulling enough votes from the Republicans that Democrats started getting elected? No. (Many republicans do blame the LP for that.) If the Republican party had done its f*cking job instead of continuing to fellate the Left even when it had veto-proof majorities in the state legislature in the mid 1980s, there’d have been no need in anyone’s mind for a Libertarian Party. [Which, by the way, was founded in Colorado Springs…]

If you think I am just a wee bit angry about this, well, it likely seems that way superficially, even though in reality, my attitude is completely different: I am a great deal angry about this. Just thought I’d clear up any possible confusion.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

All prices are Kitco Ask, 3PM MT Friday (at that time the markets close for the weekend).

Last week:

Gold $1802.80
Silver $25.26
Platinum $1065.00
Palladium $2760.00
Rhodium $19,500.00

This week, markets closed for the weekend at 3:00 PM Mountain Time

Gold $1815.20
Silver $25.56
Platinum $1053.00
Palladium $2747.00
Rhodium $19,500.00

Gold broke out and up into the 1830s this week but much of that gain was lost by close on Friday. Silver is up a bit too, the PGMs however are down (or steady).

Part XII: The Rest of Special Relativity

Introduction

I had to cut Part XI, which introduced the four ground-breaking “boom” papers Albert Einstein published in 1905, short two weeks ago because I simply ran out of time. Our lupine host might be willing to tolerate a post as much as twelve hours late, but I don’t care to do that.

So I’m going to pick up where I left off.

But first I’m going to drag out a soapbox (Stop that twitching eye, it’s at rest in our reference frame!) and explain a couple of things.

I have seen people criticize Einstein for not being a real scientist, on the grounds that he didn’t do real experiments, but rather a lot of “though experiments.” I walked you through a few of them last time (all those examples with the moving trains).

You’re invited to imagine that Einstein did a bunch of thought experiments, and that other scientists accepted them as Holy Writ and that is how the theory of special relativity became accepted as being true.

But Einstein didn’t rely on his thought experiments. And neither did anyone else.

Science is like any other line of work. People specialize. Scientists can be divided into two broad groups, theoreticians and experimentalists. And of course there’s usually at least some of each in a scientist. But the archetypal theoretician is someone who shouldn’t even be allowed to touch a screwdriver lest he put out his own (or someone else’s) eye with it. Whereas many scientists are quite handy with tools and design and build very intricate equipment. And this distinction doesn’t just exist in pure science. I recall overhearing a fellow (engineering) student complaining to a prof about what a klutz he (the student) was in the lab courses and wondering if he were cut out for this line of work and the professor practically fell all over himself explaining that no, there was plenty of room in engineering for people who were good with the theory. (Those would be the sorts who design things and do not build the prototype!) It was pretty obvious to me from his talk that this particular professor was himself one of the more theoretical types. (He didn’t teach one of the labs!)

Einstein started by trying to explain things prior experiments had shown, did his “thought experiments” to come up with a theory, and put the theory out there…to stand or fall as people did more experiments. He was about as pure Theoretician as one can imagine, but he himself and everyone around him knew that even the most elegant theory was useless until validated by experience.

As I alluded to Einstein’s paper on the photoelectric effect had such sweeping implications about the very nature of reality that it took sixteen years to earn him his sole Nobel prize (he didn’t get his Nobel for relativity). Scientists certainly didn’t take that as Holy Writ, nor did they take anything else Einstein produced as Holy Writ.

Not until experiments upheld it, and it became plain that Einstein’s theories explained them better than anything else. If they hadn’t, he’d never have become known to absolutely everyone.

In 1905 Einstein was a 26 year old clerk in a patent office. He had the requisite credentials in science, but he still had to prove himself as a scientist. But even after he was considered absolutely solid as a theorist, that still didn’t mean that everything he put out there was considered Truth. Not until checked. And even then, there’s always the possibility someone will do some experiment somewhere that will put a gigantic crack into one of Einstein’s theories. And a good scientist knows this.

And on a related but different topic:

General relativity is often presented as though Einstein started with the Michelson-Morley experiment (which failed to detect any difference in light speed in a vacuum regardless of direction, even though Earth was presumed to be moving through an aether that serves as the medium light traveled through). This wasn’t actually the case; he was trying to reconcile a seeming inconsistency or two in electromagnetic theory (more about which, soon). But let’s set that aside. I’ve personally known people who can’t abide special (and especially general) relativity because, they claim, it “reifies space” (makes nothing into something). They don’t like quantum mechanics either, because (as we will eventually see) it’s non-deterministic. Of course some of these people are so confused they conflate relativity and quantum mechanics, accusing relativity of being non-deterministic (it’s quite deterministic–just not in the manner you expect), and so on.

But be that as it may, special relativity has its detractors, and they often start by suggesting a different explanation for Michelson-Morley’s “null” result, which seemed to show there is no aether, no medium for the propagation of light (just like sound requires air to propagate) that we (Earth) are plowing through One I read many years ago was that perhaps the aether is real, but is, locally, being “dragged along” with Earth, basically, “entrained.” So Earth can be moving through the aether, but because some of it is sticking to Earth, Earth is really dragging some bits of the aether through the rest of it. If so then here on the surface of the earth, the aether will seem stationary with respect to us, or us stationary with respect to the aether. So measuring the speed of light in different directions, in the expectation that we’ll find out how fast we’re moving through the medium it propagates through, will return a zero result. However, if we did the experiment far away from Earth, we might just discover that we are moving through an “aether.”

OK, that could indeed be an alternative explanation for the Michelson-Morley experiment.

But that’s not enough. A proposed alternate has to not just explain one thing, the one thing that got the ball rolling on a train of thought (um…pun left there even after I realized it) that became the theory being targeted as well as that theory does. [Note though that Michelson Morley isn’t where Einstein started from…but let’s pretend for the sake of argument that it is.] The alternate had better explain everything else that the target theory explains, as well as if not better than the target theory. And it would be nice if it also explains things the target theory does not, especially things that the target theory actually gets wrong.

If it can’t do this it’s worthless in our current context and can be shelved, perhaps to be brought back in a different context when we learn more, but more than likely, never to be brought back at all.

The entrainment suggestion, if true, would have certain other consequences which are very different from special relativity’s consequences. Those consequences simply aren’t true. It also doesn’t explain time dilation, which is absolutely real, measured in the laboratory, nor length contraction, nor mass deficits (another thing I haven’t got to yet), all of them measurable. So at that point, it’s not worth considering given what we know today.

If Einstein had decided to entertain entrainment as an explanation, and followed that through to its logical consequences, his work would have been worthless, because those consequences wouldn’t match reality.

I’ve beaten up on flat earthers before and I will do it again now. It is possible, in many cases, to come up with a flat earth theory that explains one phenomenon that suggests that the earth is instead almost perfectly spherecal. Differing sun angles at two different places on the earth? Well, that’s because the sun is close enough that parallax puts it in a different direction as seen from those two places. This is an alternative to the round earth theory that says the different sun angles are due to being on two differently oriented parts of the surface of a sphere, looking at a sun that’s far enough away you can approximate it as infinity. But that actually falls apart when you add a third point. And it doesn’t explain how nighttime can exist in some places at the same time as daytime in others. No doubt a sufficiently clever flat earther could conjure something up to explain that (I can’t). But that would be a different flat earth theory, because the particular one I alluded to earlier cannot explain how it can be dark in Tokyo and light in New York City, at the same time.

There is no one flat earth theory that can explain everything that the round earth theory does; and there’s nothing relevant that the round earth theory cannot explain. If one believes the earth is flat because there is a flat earth theory that can explain away everything, their logic is defective if those flat earth theories contradict each other. The mere fact that an alternate explanation can be made for every single thing a currently-accepted theory doesn’t throw that theory into doubt, and cannot unless all of the alternate explanations are the same explanation or at least not inconsistent with each other.

OK, hopefully after all that you have a sense of the rigor to which a proposed alternate theory will be subjected to. And hopefully you recognize that, at least back in the day science was science rather than SJW activism, the currently-accepted theory would not itself be the currently-accepted theory if it had not already run that gauntlet, going up against an older theory. And so on, back to Galileo, who founded the scientific method. (Before that, it was pure theory, pure thought experiment, rarely if ever checked against reality.)

OK, so on to more Special Relativity.

The Doppler Effect

Imagine, if you will, that I am now stepping onto a moving soapbox (so your eyes can start twitching now if they want to).

But for now I’m going to move at a fairly sedate speed, about 76.7 miles per hour, one tenth the speed of sound (at sea level, on a “standard” day with standard temperature and air pressure). And let us assume the air is perfectly still with respect to the ground (which means this is not Wyoming or anywhere on the Great Plains). So I am moving at that speed through the air.

This speed is also 34.288 meters per second. And the speed of sound under these circumstances is 342.88 meters per second.

I strike something with a hammer. The sound from this radiates outward from where the hammer fall happened, at 342.88 m/s, in an ever expanding circle. But it does so through the air, not relative to me. After the first second, the sound has gone 342.88 meters but I have also moved 34.288 meters, so the sound wave in front of me is only 342.88 – 34.288 = 308.592 meters ahead of me. Similarly, the sound wave directly behind me is 342.88 + 34.288 = 376.168 meters away. If at that instant I strike with the hammer again, there will now be two sound waves, expanding outward. They won’t be concentric, the smaller, later wave’s center is 34.288 meters away from the center of the larger, earlier wave.

If you are standing directly in front of me, you will hear the first hammer blow at some time, then you will hear the second hammer blow. But you will not hear them a second apart. Remember that the forward edges of the waves are 308.592 meters apart, not 342.88 meters apart, and that corresponds to a difference of 0.9 seconds.

If I continue with the hammer blows, one second apart, you will hear hammer blows every 0.9 seconds. If you turn that into a frequency, it’s 1 / 0.9 = 1.11111111… hertz (Leftist lurkers: keep writing ones until I grow tired).

If someone else is standing behind me, they will hear hammer blows every 1.1 seconds, for a frequency of 0.90909090 hertz (and the somewhat more intelligent Leftist lurkers can take on the more intellectually challenging job of writing alternating zeros and nines until I grow tired).

A sustained tone is simply many, many pulses every second, and the same thing happens to them as to my hammer blows one second apart. Their spacing gets reduced by one tenth (for people in front of me) or increased by one tenth (for people behind me). That in turn increases/decreases the frequency by 1/9.

This shows something moving at 0.7 times the speed of sound (not 0.1) but it gives you the general idea. the wave fronts are closer together in front of the moving source, further apart behind it. Someone standing at the left or right edge of the diagram will experience very different frequencies than the source is putting out.

This affect was first noticed by lots of people when trains would pass through towns, and blow the train whistle as they went by. They’d hear a certain pitch as the train approached, then the pitch would drop as the train went past, and the train receding into the distance would be blowing a lower note on its whistle. Many thought the engineers were playing some trick with the whistle, but they weren’t (train engineers had better things to do than to make sure they trolled absolutely everyone they saw along the side of the track, with their whistle).

To put this more mathematically:

fheard = ( c / (c + vs) ) femitted

Vs is the velocity of the source through the medium, c is how fast the waves propagate through the medium. Vs should be treated as a positive number if the source is moving away from you, negative if it’s moving toward you. So in our example where vs is 1/10th the speed of sound, c /(c+vs) reduces to 1/1.1 for a source moving away from you, and whatever the frequency I blow, you’ll hear a frequency 0.90909090 times that.

A similar analysis gives a slightly different result if the source is stationary but you are moving towards or away from it:

fheard = ( (c + vr) / c ) femitted

You end up dividing by c/(c+vr) instead of multiplying by it, or alternatively, multiplying by (c+vr)/c, and vr is the receiver’s velocity through the medium, positive when you move toward the source. So if YOU are standing still and making the note and I am travelling towards you on my magic mach 0.1 soapbox, I will hear a frequency 1.1 times what you made, traveling away from you I’d hear a lower pitched frequency, 0.9 times as much.

There is a more general formula covering the case where both you and the source are moving through the medium, at different speeds, but it’s not important here. I’ll give it to you anyway.

fheard = ( (c + vr) / (c + vs) ) femitted

It sort of looks like a combination of the two others, doesn’t it? If you think about it, the two other formulas come from this one, if you set either the receiver’s velocity to zero, or the source’s.

Things get much more interesting if you move at the speed of sound, or faster than it, or if the source and the recipient are not moving directly towards or away from each other.

OK, now to look at special relativity.

Light has a frequency, that frequency, if it’s one our eyes can detect, is a color. Higher frequencies look blue or even purple, lower frequencies will look orange or red.

Wouldn’t it stand to reason that if a light source is moving towards you, it would look bluer, and if moving away, it would look redder?

Yes that makes sense. But wait a minute!

Light doesn’t propagate through a medium. It simply propagates. So all that stuff up above where I derived the Doppler formulae under the assumption that sound propagates through a medium and its your speed relative to the medium that affects what you hear…is crap when applied here.

But nevertheless, light does do Doppler shift. It just doesn’t do so quite the same way. The formula won’t involve your speed relative to the medium (which doesn’t exist), but rather go directly to your speed relative to the source, since that’s the only thing that could possibly matter. There won’t be two velocities built into this, but rather just the relative velocity between the two.

Now it’s:

fseen = [ sqrt( 1 – v2/c2 ) / 1 + v/c ] femitted

v is positive if the seer and emitter are moving away from each other, negative if they are moving toward each other.

Note that our old friend sqrt(1-v2/c2) shows up again, but this time it’s in the numerator, so this is 1/γ this time.

fseen = femitted / γ [ 1 + v/c ]

This formula does not have to be used on just the frequency of light waves. You can apply it to any occurrence that has a regular period. For example you could be travelling away from Earth at close to light speed, and use this to see how far apart it seems that the Earth is at the same spot in its orbit. Since that’s a yearly event (by definition!) you can therefore see how often an event that happens on a certain calendar date will appear to happen from your point of view.

In particular, you can see how often Billy receives Bob’s annual messages (and vice-versa), from our “Twins Paradox” example last time. When I discussed this example, Billy was on a spacecraft headed for Sirius at v/c = 0.8, outbound for the first leg, then stopping and returning. The twins had agreed to send each other messages once a year, and due to the press of time two weeks ago I simply asserted how often the other twin would receive a message. But now we have the mathematical tool to back up my assertion.

This made γ = 1/0.6 or 5/3. 1 +v/c = 1.8, so the denominator above is (5/3)(9/5) = 9/3 = 3, so you divide the emitted frequency by 3.

So as Billy travels away from Bob, any regular pulse (like an annual message from Bob announcing Bob just got a year older) will come in at 1/3 the rate it would arrive if they two weren’t moving with respect to each other. So Billy gets the message once every three years while outbound, as I noted.

On the return trip they approach each other so now you multiply γ (still 5/3) by 1 – 0.8 = 1/5 and get 1/3 which, remember is the denominator, so multiply the once per year frequency of Bob’s messages to Billy, and see that Billy gets three of them a year not one.

Relativistic Momentum

One consequence of all of this is that, if I am watching a moving person fire a weapon, the velocities do not add up. For example, if Bob were to see Billy fire a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range, straight ahead of him, and the beam from the phased plasma rifle travels at 0.5c (from Billy’s point of view), Bob will not see the beam of the phased plasma rifle moving away from him at 0.8 (Billy’s speed away from Bob) + 0.5 (velocity of the beam) = 1.3 c. Nope, no way, no how.

Velocity doesn’t add up like you’d think based on your much-slower-than-light experience.

Here’s the formula, on the left is the speed that you see as you watch someone, who is moving, fire his phased plasma rifle.

Vtotal = (vbolt + vperson) / ( 1 + vperson vbolt / c2 ).

Vtotal is the total velocity you see. vperson is the velocity the person firing the rifle is moving. vbolt is the muzzle velocity of the rifle. In other words vbolt and vperson are the two velocities you are trying to add, the velocity of the person in your reference frame, and the velocity of the rifle plasma bolt, in his reference frame.

So in our example, the top is 1.3c, and the denominator is ( 1 + .4c2/c2 ) so the total velocity is 1.3/1.4 times c. Which works out to .928c. That’s how fast you’ll see the phased plasma rifle’s bolt move from your reference frame.

The formula works in such a way that any two speeds slower than light will add to another speed slower than light.

If you are dealing with situations much, much lower than the speed of light, the bottom of the formula becomes 1 and you can just add velocities like you’re used to doing, a 60 mph pitch straight ahead on a train moving at 50 mph will look like 110 mph to someone watching the train go by. It will be very very very (immeasurably) slower than 110 mph in fact.

Momentum

But if you cannot add velocities, then you also cannot simply add momenta (momentums) because momentum is simply the mass of the object times its velocity. Indeed momentum itself doesn’t seem to be conserved in collisions!

However, there’s such a thing as relativistic momentum, which is conserved. It’s essentially our old friend γ times the classical momentum. Which means, of course, that at very low speeds, it looks just like the momentum we are used to and that momentum therefore looks to be conserved.

Even F = ma gets called out. Doing a unit analysis, force is mass times distance over time squared. But mass times distance over time (without squaring it) is momentum, so force can be thought of as momentum over time. We already have a relativistic momentum, so now just by dividing by time we have a relativistic force.

Force, of course, allowed to operate over a distance without being balanced out, is work. You can, through some rather messy algebra (which my college physics text…you guessed it…left as an exercise for the student), get from there to a formula for relativistic kinetic energy.

This is:

Ek = γmc2 – mc2

If an object is not moving, γ is one, and the kinetic energy is zero. We can sanity check this for very low speeds by using an approximation for γ which is that γ is approximately 1 + 1/2 v2/c2…. with the further terms all vanishingly small.

Plug that value of gamma into the equation above and you get:

Ek = (1 + 1/2 v2/c2) mc2 – mc2

Multiply out the first term:

Ek = mc2 + (1/2 v2/c2) mc2 – mc2

The first mc2 and the last one cancel each other out. The middle term’s two c2s cancel each other out as well which leaves you with the familiar:

Ek = 1/2 mv2

So again we see a case where a familiar classical formula is equal (to within an immeasurably small amount) to the relativistic formula for the same thing, at very low speed.

Our situation as people who move very slowly compared to light is just a special case, and classical mechanics only holds true in that special case. It’s close enough, in fact, that for daily life you can just ignore the special relativity aspect of things. Which Galileo, Newton, et. al. did do, out of not knowing it was there.

Returning to our formula for relativistic kinetic energy:

Ek = γmc2 – mc2

The first term has γ, which in turn has a dependency on velocity. The second term does not depend on velocity; it’s a sort of energy that just depends on the mass of the object.

In fact mc2 is now called the “rest energy”.

If you add the rest energy of some particle to the kinetic energy of that particle, the mc2s cancel out and the total energy is simply

E = Ek + Erest = γmc2

But of course, unless you just arrived here from the nineteenth century (or earlier) by time machine, you recognized the rest energy formula right off the bat:

Erest = mc2

Interestingly that famous formula is only half of the real formula for total energy.

But it does imply that even a totally stationary mass has energy locked up in it.

HOw much energy? 1kg times the speed of light, times the speed of light. Which is 1kg x 299,792,458m/s x 299,792,458m/s = 89,875,517,873,681,764 joules, 89 quadrillion joules, still slightly more than our national debt. Ten million 100 watt light bulbs could be run for 89,875,517 seconds with this energy; that’s almost exactly 2.85 years! A billion watts for three years!! Out of one lousy kilogram of mass.

Of course, we don’t know how to convert all of any mass into energy.

But pretty much any time we release chemical or nuclear energy, we convert some of that mass into energy. Chemical reactions release so little energy per kilogram (compared to this ridiculously huge number) that we can’t actually measure the mass change. But nuclear reactions do have a measurable effect on mass, as we shall begin to see when my narrative returns to the atom next time.

As I pointed out previously, this throws the conservation of mass into the toilet. Since mass can turn into energy (and vice versa), we now have a conservation of mass-energy. To be honest though, many physicists simply think of matter as just another form of energy, and talk about the conservation of energy without qualification since energy is seen to include matter now.

Now I’ll be honest with you that derivation seems to me like a lot of hand waving. At the end you just added the thing you were subtracting out back in and called it “rest mass.” But there is no real doubt any more, “rest energy” is real. We see it turn up every time we look inside the atom.

Revisiting Electromagnetism

Recall that Einstein’s original paper on relativity was titled “On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies.” We haven’t even mentioned electricity and how it behaves at these velocities, though.

Einstein got all of this stuff by looking at electromagnetism, not from trying to figure out why Michelson-Morley got a null result.

Remember from last time: “If you move a coil of wire through a stationary magnetic field, a current is induced in the wire. The problem is, if you looked at it from the point of view of the wire, the effect is due to an electrical force. But from the point of view of the magnet, the effect is due to a magnetic force.”

So, two different reference frames, each getting a difference in the mechanism for getting the current flowing in the wire. This looks like a contradiction, and it worried a lot of people at the end of the nineteenth century. But it turns out that if you bring relativity into play, it gets resolved.

The too long, didn’t read is that magnetism will turn out to be electricity–with relativistic effects.

I’ll illustrate that with an example; this is going to force you to remember a lot of electromagnetism.

Imagine a long, straight wire carrying a current. You’re sighting down that wire, looking in the same direction as the current. The wire is running past your eye and diving into your computer screen, so the current flows into the screen.

(And remember that current is treated as if it were a positive charge moving, not an negative charge, so in reality the electrons are coming toward you. [And gee, it’s nice not to have to talk about “electrical fluid” any more.])

Even though current is flowing, there is as much negative charge in any part of the wire as positive charge. There’s no net electric charge, and therefore there is no electric field.

However, every current creates a magnetic field, In this case, it runs in rings around the wire according to the right hand rule. Orient your right thumb in the direction of the current (which, remember, is defined based on notional positive charges moving, so it’s in the opposite direction of the motion of the electrons). The fingers of your right hand point in the direction of the magnetic field. Thus from your vantage point the magnetic field lines run in clockwise circles around the wire. To the left of the wire they run upwards, to the right, downwards.

OK, so imagine a positive test charge sitting near the wire, to the right of it as seen by you. If it’s stationary with respect to the wire, it just sits there. There’s no electric field, so it’s not being pulled towards (or pushed away from) the wire. And it’s not moving through the magnetic field so no F = qv x B because v is zero.

OK, now imagine that test charge moving, away from you, into the computer screen. Now we have a velocity, and qv is a vector pointing into the screen. But, where the test charge is, the magnetic field points straight down. Use the right hand rule, and the test charge feels a force towards the wire thanks to its interaction with the magnetic field, created by the flowing current.

So: send the positive test charge alongside the current, it gets drawn toward the wire by the magnetic field induced by the current. Still with me?

OK, let’s back up. Let’s run this scenario again, but momentarily forget the magnetic field.

The notional particles carrying the current are positively charged, and they must have a certain spacing as they move along, if they are further apart than that spacing, then the wire would have more negative charge in a certain length than positive and the wire would have a net charge and there’d be an electric field.

Now let’s ride along with our test charge outside the wire. It is now moving closer to the speed of the current than it was when stationary. And it is now moving with respect to the negative stationary charges in the wire.

So it sees the negative charges get closer together, because of relativistic length contraction.

And it sees the positive charges get further apart, because it’s moving closer to their velocity so the length contraction that was always there, is now lessened. In fact, if the charged particle is moving at the same speed as the current, the partices making up the current are as far apart as they can be because they’re at rest in the postive charge’s frame of reference.

If you crowd the negative charges in the wire closer together and space the positive charges further apart, which is what our moving test charge sees, now the wire does have an electrical field, one due to a net negative charge in the wire. The positive test charge is now attracted to the negative wire by an electric field.

How much is it attracted to the wire? Exactly as much as the magnetic field did when we looked at our test charge as if it were moving through a magnetic field.

They are, in fact, the same effect! A magnetic field is just what someone sees due to relativity acting on distributions of electrical particles.

Note, we got this by applying length contraction to the charges in the wire, not through the laws describing the interplay between electricity and magnetism. Length contraction, etc., must be implicit in Maxwell’s equations, but Maxwell certainly never noticed!

And thus, another thing gets explained by relativity. In fact it was the first thing to be explained–this is what Einstein was trying to solve after all, but the point is all the pieces fit together, quite nicely.

And 116 years later they still do.

Conclusion

The most important of these pieces is that Joe Biden didn’t win.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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wheatietoo

The Squatter-in-Chief must go!
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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! Brutal, but funny.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That would actually be logical.

The SERIAL LIAR and POLITICAL HACK Rochelle Walensky is never going to do that.

Aubergine

You would think they would figure out that, to prop up their lies and attempts to shut down America again, they should at least “pretend” there is actual danger from unvaccinated illegal immigrants.

It is amazing. Either they are that stupid, or that arrogant.

Gingersmom2009

Arrogant and brazen.

Valerie Curren

AND logic for the win again!

wheatietoo

At some point, I’m going to have to put the physics posts on “hold” and just do a complete skeleton of a post each week (I’d still include the bullion prices)…and this will last for a couple of months.

Do whatcha gotta do, Steve.
Totally understand!

I must confess that your physics posts are over my head anyway.
So I don’t presume to even act like I understand them.

But I love it that you take the time and effort to do them!
It makes it look like we’ve got some real brainiacs hanging out here.
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Which we do, actually.
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Love the bullion prices each week…thanks for those!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

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cthulhu

Honestly, even if you have taken the jab — isn’t this a lot like a cavity search every day? How ’bout employers find other people who like that sort of thing?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Jab is about to become a cavity search where they leave behind a grenade that goes off in 1 year, and you’d better get a FRESH GRENADE in 6-12 months.

Ozzytrumpster

Cold feet? There are 9 new pharm billionaires due to covid.
whatcould scare them off that easy $?

https://thelibertyloft.com/astrazeneca-appears-to-want-out-of-vaccine-business

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I suspect they know the jig is up for the people who plotted “medical socialism dependency”.

scott467

Medical fascism” sounds much better, a label we could tar them with all day long, and unlike the word ‘socialism’ which puts the Sheep right to sleep, the word ‘facism‘ wakes the Sheep right up like a bucket of cold water 👍 😁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sounds good to me!

BillBeakman

All the indemnity in the world can’t protect them from their fraud.
“Fraud vitiates all”

Gingersmom2009

YOU DON’T QUIT. YOU MAKE THEM FIRE YOU, IN WRITING. Then, you collect and wait to sue.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN!

cthulhu

New-ish VIP Schlichter — https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/07/30/i-want-the-democrats-to-double-down-n2593360

“Now, people say, “Fauci’s been wrong about everything!” That’s not true. That’s not true. Fauci has not been wrong about everything. He’s actually been correct at one point. And I know that because he’s literally taken every possible position – don’t wear a mask, wear one mask, wear two masks, you don’t have to wear a mask anymore, you definitely have to wear a mask now. He has covered all the bases. So at some point along that line, that malignant little tumor of a dwarf was correct. We’re not sure which one; I think it was the first one, by the way. The one where masks mean nothing. “Yeah, I’m going to put some tissue paper in my face and it’s like a magic totem that will protect me from the evil spirits.” ”

Also, new-ish Schlichter that may have already been posted here — https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/07/29/imagine-if-they-hadnt-lied-to-us-for-the-last-18-months-n2593208

cthulhu

Major Cranial Flatulence, it’s Colonel Discharge, reporting for duty, sir!

Glad you could make it.

cthulhu

Looking at that again, the ranks are upside-down….which reflects the rest of it.

cthulhu

Your side-jaunt into experimental and theoretical physics was very nice, and dovetails with a memory of an anecdote. Someone went to Princeton to interview Einstein, and there was this quiet guy in the corner at all times during the interview. Finally, the interviewer asked who he was, and Einstein replied, “he’s my mathematician. I’m not really good at mathematics, so they won’t let me go out in public without him.”

Ozzytrumpster

Einstein said the hardest thing to understand was income taxes

para59r

Hrmmm… don’t black folk have to do income taxes, yet they can’t be expected to get an ID card?

para59r

Of course. Point being they know where to go to get what they want. If they want to vote they can go get an ID. The trip to Jackson Hewitt is much more complicated. Not only do they need that ID but they need other paper work as well.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Hey Wolfie, Look who I found on Gab!

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Stop The Steal
Please share this everywhere! I’m deplatformed.

We have to force the Republicans to fight Pelosi rigging the Jan 6 Select Committee to cover her own crimes!
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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. The way to hide “WE DID IT” is to turn it into an unresolvable “HE DID IT” and “SHE DID IT”. It’s a way to get rid of the “AND LOGIC”.

Ali is a slick one, I’ll give him that.

wheatietoo

Slick as a snake.  🐍 

Aubergine

I have continued to receive “propaganda” emails from Stop the Steal. He is hell-bent on a comeback. They are pushing him forward very hard right now. I have to wonder, why now?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Audits are about to come out and they are absolutely desperate to “gain control of the crowd” on election theft through this RINO BOZO.

It’s all about gaining control of protests.

DO. NOT. GET. UNDER. HIS. CONTROL.

He led election protests to DOOM before. He will do it again.

Aubergine

Lol! NOBODY controls this girl. I am the biggest skeptic you ever want to meet.

I have not rejected the emails because I want to keep an eye on him.

I made up my mind a while back that I am keeping my powder dry on protesting until it is something I can effect locally. I don’t think there is enough leadership and organization from anyone at a national level right now to make any protest worthwhile.

Grandmaintexas

I adore you. 💗

Aubergine

Lol!

Grandma, we’re frens.

Grandmaintexas

We are.

cthulhu

The world shifting part between the last physics post and this one is that people were finding new fields to discover pre-1895 and discovering electromagnetism (Maxwell), and quanta (Planck), and no aether (Michelson-Morley) and all sorts of wondrous things — and saying, “YAY!!! HIGH FIVE!!! Now we are Masters of the Universe!!!”

And a 26-year-old patent clerk eagerly read and understood these accomplishments….combining them and carrying them forward to what they really meant. Luther had his 95 theses — Einstein had his four 1905 papers.

slowcreekno

Excellent lesson today. A welcome break from the coronavirus house of horrors.

And I won’t soon forget the radar formula: f = 2 * v / lambda, for the Doppler shift from the radial velocity of the moving target. That factor of 2 is for the wave going out and coming back.

I had another discussion about the Dopper shift with some local friends a while ago. They were wondering how much an FM radio signal would be shifted when driving on a freeway… I could reassure them that the approximate maximum of 10 Hz shift when moving directly towards or away from the transmitter is much less than the precision of the tuned circuits inside the receiver.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Still, that’s pretty cool!

slowcreekno

Oh no crazy driving. There was the stipulation that the speed would be reasonable for free-flowing traffic. 30 m/s = 108 km/h = 67.5 MPH was chosen so as to make the math simple, with v/c = 10¯⁷ Likewise, the FM radio operates at 100 MHz, and thus the frequency shift became 10 Hz. We were after reasonable approximate figures — if going faster or slower, or looking at other frequencies in the FM band, the shift would be slightly higher or lower, but still with negligible effect on reception.

Note that this wasn’t in Germany… in which case double the speed, 60 m/s = 216 km/h = 135 MPH, would be legal. Then the offset frequency would be double, but 20 Hz is still not enough to de-tune the FM radio.

slowcreekno

Oh yes, I saw that. As traffic speed approaches standstill, the fd goes to 0 as well. Which still doesn’t affect radio reception, but makes the calculation trivial and the result slightly boring, 0=0.

These radios often also have automatic frequency control, where the tuning «pulls» onto the carrier from a station, which just ensures that any kind of small frequency offsets will become even more irrelevant.

wheatietoo

Found this on Gab:
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Gudthots

Dr. Simone Gold is also providing legal help to those dealing with this.

TheseTruths

What happens when the vaccines are “promoted” out of emergency use?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s when we know that the government is completely corrupt.

Gail Combs

Takes about ten years for the full testing and remember mRNA is NEW TECHNOLOGY!

wheatietoo

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Eye Bleach may be needed for this one.
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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YIKES!

Gudthots

They just keep digging.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup.

I think Berenson is too kind. SOMEBODY KNEW it was all wrong.

Once you see the “socialism through vaccine slavery” theory, not only can it not be unseen, but everything they did makes sense.

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QUESTION:

How do we force people to accept socialism?

ANSWER:

They have to depend on it UTTERLY!

QUESTION:

How can we accomplish that? We’ve tried food, medical care, water, jobs – nothing is working. We need something like AIR ITSELF.

ANSWER:

Yeah, carbon dioxide isn’t exactly working as a “necessity”.

QUESTION:

What else? How can we make their LIVES literally depend on socialism?

ANSWER:

Make them depend on a drug they cannot obtain themselves! One that we can simply withdraw if they don’t cooperate. “Cooperate or die.”

QUESTION:

Small molecule drugs don’t create dependence without too many effects. And they can reject it, like fentanyl. Too many people won’t take it. What else?

ANSWER:

What about vaccines for an evolving disease?

QUESTION:

Great! What should we try first?

ANSWER:

How about INFLUENZA!

QUESTION:

Well, that didn’t work. It evolved TOO FAST and never responded genetically to the vaccine, so we couldn’t train it to virulence, and not enough people took it. What else?

ANSWER:

How about HIV and AIDS!

QUESTION:

Well, that only made GAYS dependent, and not on a vaccine, damn it, but only a cocktail of expensive small-molecule drugs. Fauci had to give up on a vaccine. But it almost worked. We were damn close! Sure, those gays were useful in the 2016 and 2020 elections, but we need to control EVERYBODY! What else?

ANSWER:

How about a COLD VIRUS? There’s a reason you can’t have vaccines for colds.

QUESTION:

Not every cold virus will work. Many would be like flu, only the vaccine would just make things worse.

ANSWER:

But isn’t that what we want? For the vaccine to make BOTH the virus AND the people worse. As in make the VIRUS stronger, and the people MORE IN NEED of it.

QUESTION:

OK – I like that. That will really force socialism on them. Which cold virus?

ANSWER:

It needs to be one that evolves naturally at the right speed, or we can “push it”, if we’re careful and do the work in China, so nobody will know that the virus is designed to assist socialism. It helps to pick a virus with the right features to become more virulent under evolutionary pressure. The vaccines will do that, just like Marek’s disease.

QUESTION:

I think we have a winner! Do you think they’ll ever catch on?

ANSWER:

Just make sure Wolf Moon gets the virus early and dies. If he lives, this could really backfire.

ForGodandCountry

LOL

Welp, they messed that one up! Looks like it’s gonna backfire, and that couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of goons.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

You will recall Hillary Clinton saying something about what might happen if Trump won. NOW I understand why. And this explains several other things I noted along the way, about radical left and Soviet interest in AIDS.

That video from Bill Still (who was contacted by the NBC whistleblower) has been removed by YouTube – but here is a transcript, which I’m going to save on this site.

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Good afternoon, I’m still reporting on NBC Crew – Crooked Hillary’s Massive Meltdown at Sept. 7th Forum. Remember the Sept. 7 Commander-in-Chief Forum where Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton appeared separately but back-to-back for 30 minutes each? According to an email forwarded to us late last night, which originated from a Comcast email address, the technical crew for NBC which produced the event is now speaking out about what took place moments after Clinton walked off the set – a massive profanity-laced tirade aimed at NBC’s host, Matt Lauer.

It turned out that Clinton had been fed all the questions for approval in advance of the forum. But then, after the approval, Matt Lauer had had a change of heart and he started his questioning with an unapproved line concerning Clinton’s use of an illegal private server for her sometimes classified, work-related emails.

According to a Comcast official (the parent company of NBC Universal) who apparently was quoting those on the set: “When Matt posed the one legitimate question about the FBI investigation concerning her homemade server and the unsecured emails, we could see she was beginning to boil.”

According to an NBC Associate Producer of the Forum, as soon as Clinton got off the set, she exploded. “Hillary proceeded to pick up a full glass of water and throw it at the face of her assistant, and the screaming started.” “She was in a full meltdown and no one on her staff dared speak with her – she went kind of manic and didn’t have any control over herself at that point.”

“How these people work with this woman is amazing to me. She really didn’t seem to care who heard any of it.” “You really had to see this to believe it. She came apart – literally unglued; she is the most foul-mouthed woman I’ve ever heard … and that voice at screech level … awful!” “She screamed she’d get that f…..ing Lauer fired for this.” Referring to Donald Trump, Clinton said: “If that f – – – ing bastard wins, we all hang from nooses! Lauer’s finished…and if I lose it’s all on your heads for screwing this up.”

So, Crooked Hillary fears the gallows, eh? Interesting.

Her dozen or more aides were visibly disturbed and tried to calm her down when she started shaking uncontrollably, as she screamed to get an executive at Comcast the parent company of NBC Universal, on the phone. Then, two rather large aides grabbed her and helped her walk to her car. Matt Lauer was massively criticized for the rest of the week on air by the Clinton campaign and the rest of the MSM as having conducted: “an unfair and partisan attack on Clinton.” According to the email, calls were made to the New York Times, the Washington Post, Huffington Post and Twitter executives with orders to crush Matt Lauer.

One staffer on the Clinton campaign told the NBC staff that they all fear Clinton’s wrath and uncontrollable outbursts, and one described Hillary as “an egotistical psychopath.” Since Hillary does not allow any staff to have cell phones when she is in their presence, no footage is available. Interim DNC chairman Donna Brazile, the first black woman to hold the position, was singled out by Hillary during the rant. She screamed at Donna:

“I’m so sick of your face. You stare at the wall like a brain dead buffalo, while letting that f – – – ing Lauer get away with this. What are you good for, really? Get the f – – – to work janitoring this mess – do I make myself clear?” A female NBC executive said that Donna Brazile looked at Mrs. Clinton and never flinched, which seemed to enrage Hillary all the more. The executive continued: “It was the most awful and terrible…and racist display – such a profane meltdown I have ever witnessed from anyone, and I will never forget it.

“That woman should never see the inside of the oval office I can tell you that. She was unhinged and just continued to verbally abuse everyone – she was out of control.” Why did Lauer ask his rogue question? According to sources close to Lauer, because:“… the American people deserve an answer from the former Secretary of State.” I’m still reporting from Washington. Good Day.

Bill Still is a former newspaper editor and publisher. He has written for USA Today, The Saturday Evening Post, the Los Angeles Times Syndicate, OMNI magazine, and has also produced the syndicated radio program, Health News.

Emeraldstar

The FIRST report that I heard, right after the event, had somewhat different language quoted.

The words I remember were “WE’LL ALL SWING!”, not “WE ALL HANG FROM NOOSES!”

Since that time, I haven’t heard / read anyone else quote it as I remember it.

The latter phrasing is very awkward – and in the heat of such a moment, one almost always uses an economy of words / syllables. More punch that way.

I find “swing!” MUCH more consistent with an emotional tirade. It’s the one word that I mentally marked (a mnemonic key, as it were) from the news story, when it first broke.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The reason I posted this transcript is that it is perfectly faithful to what I remember about that video, which I watched dozens of times.

Bill Still was the ORIGINAL report, and “still the best”, IMO. He was the very first. Next day. Based on an email that came to HIM. Everything else is based on his report, IMO. Many of the memes were not created until much later.

IMO the truth was “tightened up” (cough! lies! cough!) for memes and attacks on Hillary.

Many memes later said that this came from Hillary’s email, or Donna Brazile’s email, etc. – all obviously “mutations”. They were distorting the news to make it worse for Hillary, but also not true.

This is why censorship distorts history.

I wasted a lot of time on Twitter correcting the record with links to the original video. Which YouTube scrubbed to make go away completely.

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scott467

There are going to be people fighting to pull the lever that drops the cyanide in the gas chamber on these people.

When the truth comes out, these people will be more hated than Hitler, and hated by more people than Hitler ever was.

Hitler never got anywhere close to directly affecting the personal lives of nearly every human being on the planet.

But these monsters did.

Just the economic damage they have done to the world economy is incalculable.

Then consider all the lives which have been lost, and families destroyed.

Not only will there be nowhere for these people to hide.

They won’t even be able to hide their grave sites.

They’ll all have to be buried at sea.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The idea of enslaving mankind with a virus and a vaccine that becomes an addiction to live is rather hideous.

Itswoot

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Gudthots

Rural Life group on Gab
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“So we lost one of our laying hens about a month ago. I assumed it was a predator of some kind. Happens every now and again. I was out doing some chores and feeding the chickens when this sneaky girl walks up looking for food with 8 chicks in tow.

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Ozzytrumpster

Lovely clever girl stole a nest

wheatietoo

Nothing about this guy would pass the scratch & sniff test.
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Here he’s hanging out with Nanzi…hey dude, where’s your Confederate flag?
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Was this before or after they boo-hoo’d for the cameras:
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ForGodandCountry

How was he dressed as a Trump supporter on Jan. 6 inside the Capitol and subsequently get credit for being an officer on duty who got “beaten unconscious”???????

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I don’t think it’s the same guy, personally.

Aubergine

I can’t make the call on this one. If it’s not him, the dude almost has a clone. The resemblance is striking. Ears, nose, brow, eyes, all of it.

Aubergine

AND, that irregular hairline. I think it’s him. But I’m still non-committal.

It would be just like these commie fuckers to get a guy with a twin brother to trip us up.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That may be amenable to investigation. I have a bunch of links to the guy. He’s in the “Breach Club Blotter” in the sidebar.

Aubergine

I did a little poking around.

In the database I usually search, it appears BOTH of these men exist. Whether they are “creations” of some agency is up for debate.

I watched the cop in the video you posted. He sure does sound Southern to me. And none of the Fanones I can find in his age bracket are Southern. All north of the Mason Dixon. Lots of them in Macomb County, Michigan. Which makes since, there are a lot of Italian people there.

I am withholding judgement on this one for now. My eyes tell me something I can’t prove.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent work! Thank you!!!

Aubergine

Anytime.

gil00

He colored his beard for the testimony. He also looks a few lbs thinner now.

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Emeraldstar

And he colored his hair for the operation.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One more picture for comparison.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trying to find the magazine, I found another with an article featuring a section on Fanone. He is said to have worked undercover narcotics.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/07/29/the-capitols-defenders-in-their-own-words/

Michael Fanone

Fanone decided to join D.C.’s Metropolitan Police force after 9/1l. He works undercover in the narcotics unit and has faced many “dicey” situations. But what he witnessed on January 6, 2021 was unlike anything he’d ever seen. He was attacked, beaten, and tazed. He heard the mob chant “kill him with his own gun.”
Fanone has worked as a plainclothes officer for years. On January 6, “for the first time in nearly a decade, I put on my uniform” because “I could not ignore the numerous calls coming from the Capitol” for backup. His partner Jimmy came, too.
In the lower west terrace tunnel, Fanone saw a police commander struggling to breathe. The commander shouted “hold the line.” It was, he said, “inspirational.” Officers used their bodies to hold back the onslaught of violent attackers. “The tunnel is a narrow and long hallway,” he said, not an ideal spot (if any exists) to be drawn into combat with a violent angry, armed mob.
“Thousands upon thousands of people” (as his body camera showed) were “determined to get past us by any means necessary.” Fanone recalled: “I heard someone scream, ‘I got one!’” The rioters stripped off his badge, stole his taser, and tasered him with it again and again. That’s when he heard them shout, “Kill him with his own gun.”
“I said as loud as I could manage: ‘I’ve got kids.’” Some people in the crowd pulled him out of the fray, then some fellow officers rescued him. Later Fanone learned he was unconscious for four minutes. He had a heart attack. Also a concussion, traumatic brain injury, and PTSD.
After all of this, Fanone said it pained him to hear the very members of Congress he defended “downplaying or outright denying what happened… The indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful.” He slammed the table for emphasis. “That is the worst of what America has to offer.”

Aubergine

IF it was him on Jan. 6, he was covering up that ENORMOUS tattoo on the side of his neck.

I found a pick of that side and enlarged it, but I could not tell for sure if there was something there.

Ozzytrumpster

On home grown electronics

Ozzytrumpster

Bwahahahah

wheatietoo

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great physics lesson!

I hear you about the derivation of the rest mass being a bit hand-wavy, but it was still enjoyable and I think appropriate for this crowd. I know I have a more rigorous derivation in one of my books and I always found it totally annoying and unintuitive, whereas just showing the relationship to gamma (“The friendly relativity factor! 😃 “) is going to make more people say “Yeah, this makes some sense.”

I have seen the relativistic explanation of current magnetic force on a nearby charge AS electrical force, presented as the moving charge in a length-contracting wire before, but I like your treatment better because it’s just a bit more rigorous but not too much. Your having gone through the basic Maxwell’s equations sets it all up to make extreme sense.

I liked this especially:

“Length contraction, etc., must be implicit in Maxwell’s equations, but Maxwell certainly never noticed!”

I can walk away from it and say:

Magnetism is a relativistic electrical effect.

…and I find that extremely satisfying for a variety of reasons:

  • it’s a relatively (NPI) weak effect, like so many relativistic effects
  • and yet it’s observable at lowish carrier speeds because the electrical force is so strong
  • the arising of the movement/velocity terms in Maxwell’s equations is basically relativity poking up its head before people realized it
  • “no magnetic monopoles” makes deep sense now in that magnetism does not arise from anything OTHER than electrical charges
  • or alternatively, the magnetic poles can be viewed as strictly chiral, geometric artifacts of cyclic current, and that unraveling a toroidal magnet shows the truth – charges are conserved – magnetism CHANGES – poles disappear because they are not a conserved fundamental
  • we can look at polar magnets like an MRI machine as a kind of “relativistic electrical charged object”, and thus the motion of a small magnet (“smaller such object”) or a charged object of either charge in or near that relativistic electrical field makes sense
  • I really almost don’t want to go back to seeing magnetism as magnetism, when I can see it as relativistic charge exposure
  • and yet, Maxwell’s laws are comfortingly simple and friendly
  • but still, magnetism as relativistic charge effects is just cool!

All said and done, a nice and needed diversion from the horrorshow of “fake science” where scientific “truth” (COUGH) is a function of “Democrats must not answer for their lies”.

cthulhu

Steve has done an exceptional job of showing that classic physics cannot just graft electromagnetism onto its side and call it “structure” — it intertwines with everything that has come before, showing it in a new light.

Einstein’s four 1905 papers did the same through most of classic physics. Space, time, energy, and matter meant something different afterwards.

ForGodandCountry

America has lost one of our most iconic, beloved, and legendary fighter pilots.

Capt. Dale “Snort” Snodgrass was killed just after takeoff from Lewiston-Nez Perce County Regional Airport flying a SIAI-Marchetti SM.1019.

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Some career highlights: He held the record for most flight hours in the F-14 Tomcat at just under 5,000, which is a stunning amount of time in a tactical aircraft. Over 1,100 carrier landings. Top Gun grad, Navy Fighter Pilot of the Year, 26 year Navy career, 20+ year airshow performer in everything from WWII fighter planes to jets like F-86s, A-4s, and over 400 airshow F-14 demo flights from the late ‘80s to late 90’s.

This is one of my favorite stories of him, as told by him….the details of what makes this such an amazing story have occupied pilots for countless hours in bars all over the world…as have stories like it…

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Ward Carroll is a retired Navy Commander and former F-14 RIO who knew Snodgrass quite well and served with him. I really enjoyed his tribute here…

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RIP to one of our finest and best. 🇺🇸

Nickel on the grass. 😔

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cthulhu

I am reminded of Carroll “Lex” LeFon — we suddenly miss them when they are abruptly snatched away.

ForGodandCountry

This is an iconic F-14 photo a lot of people have seen.

This is Snodgrass flying a knife edge pass by the LSO station of the USS America (CV-66) in 1991. Ward Carroll tells a good story about it in his video above….

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trumpismine

Wifey feelin good enough to get outa dodge for a bit to relax. Heading up to the lake for 4 or 5 days if she can stay feeling comfortable. Later

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Have fun! 😃

Grandmaintexas

Waving! Enjoy the R&R!

gil00

Good! You’ll both feel better.

singingsoul1

Have a wonderful trip and enjoy the lake 🙂

Dora

NUREMBERG 2.0: Biden’s corrupt DOJ just declared experimental vaccine mandates LEGAL… forced experimental injections will now commence
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Fake “president” Joe Biden has decided that it is perfectly legal for the government and private businesses to force employees against their will to get injected with experimental gene modification chemicals for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19).
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https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-bidens-doj-vaccine-mandates-legal-force-employees.html

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree – this is the line in the sand. This is the hill worth dying on.

I will not take the Jonestown vaccine.

Aubergine

Can the DOJ just decide something is legal? I mean that seriously; I don’t really know.

But I THOUGHT that law was made by Congress and the Senate, and enforced by the Executive branch, i.e. the DOJ. And challenges to the law went through the Judicial branch, i.e. the courts. I mean, is there a LAW that contravenes the Nuremburg Code on the books in America somewhere?

Did my civics education completely fail me?

pgroup2

No, it didn’t. But you’re not a democrat/commie so your edumacation doesn’t matter.

Aubergine

Oooohhhh. Now I get it!

Aubergine

Well, right, but wouldn’t individual attorneys then have the right to sue all the way up to the Supreme Court?

Deplorable Patriot

And they’re using eugenics era bench law to justify it all.

Sick.

MA_kswiss

Just astounding……….I was literally just reading on the code for my personal notes and can paste it here for all:

The Nuremberg Code
https://http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199711133372006

The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.

Separately someone posted this commentary:
https://mobile.twitter.com/NYCMayor

How to fight vaccine mandates from government and private companies

Go to twitter feed of any government official/CEO -> remind him that mandates for experimental drugs in exchange for restored freedoms/being able to work is a violation of the Nuremburg code -> bring up that the standard punishment for violations of the Nuremburg code is the death penalty -> tell them that you reported them to the Hague for Nuremburg Code violations.

Essentially, intimidation. Tyrants only understand fear.

Dora

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK – here are two critical links. The first one is an article summarizing the CDC’s new positioning on the “Delta Variant” – i.e., their latest propaganda.

Here is that link:

‘The war has changed,’ against new delta variant, internal CDC presentation says

By Yasemin Saplakoglu – Staff Writer about 15 hours ago

The coronavirus delta variant may be as contagious as chickenpox.

https://www.livescience.com/internal-cdc-document-covid-delta-variant.html

Here is a CDC “internal presentation” that was (IMO) intentionally leaked to the Washington Post as propaganda.

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/54f57708-a529-4a33-9a44-b66d719070d9/note/7335c3ab-06ee-4121-aaff-a11904e68462.#page=1

Aubergine

As contagious as chicken pox, and just as dangerous!

Gimme a break.

mollypitcher5

I’m lazy and won’t look up the possibles but I’m old enough to remember every kid I knew almost get chicken pox…and we all got over it

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Which is exactly how the disinformation is working here. SCARE THE ADULTS.

Why do the Democrats NEVER, EVER compare COVID-19 to the 4 prior extant beta coronaviruses, several of which I am certain I had – as an adult?

BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD NOT BE AFRAID.

I remember getting a “flu” in the 1970’s – really nasty thing – and the clinic doc told me that the entire campus was engulfed in it – but it was NOT influenza. I’m pretty sure it was a coronavirus.

Gail Combs

I remember that ‘flu’

 Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968….
1976, an outbreak of the swine flu…

Dora

Lock Him Up!
.

Deplorable Patriot

I thought he was already in prison.

I’d like to see the people who covered for him there, also. That would clean out quite a number of the hierarchy who don’t really believe in quick order.

Ozzytrumpster

another quiet dog

Ozzytrumpster

Missed this bit

TradeBait2

According to a recent study by the American Bible Society, the number of adults who never read the Bible fell to 29% in January of this year. That’s the lowest number since 2016. In other words, 71% consult the Bible at least occasionally. They say that over 95 million adults in America are reading it, many for the first time.

https://sotb.research.bible/?%24web_only=true&%24android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsotb.research.bible&%243p=e_sg&_branch_match_id=949975847708216376&utm_medium=Email%20SendGrid

II Chronicles 7:14. Perhaps it has begun.

Aubergine

One of my life-long Bible activities is to pick mine up, let it fall open to whatever page, point my finger, and read from there.

I figure it’s probably something I need to know that day. And it is always relevant.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Random applicable wisdom proves concentration thereof!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I used to do that myself, and still do to some extent, although I see it as more of a built-in than a specific individual response, although in a true optimization, it would be both! 😀

Yesterday’s verse (in my devotional) expresses (to me) why such random calls always seem inspirational:

“All the paths of the Lord are steadfast love and faithfulness, for those who keep His covenant and His testimonies.”

Psalm 25:10

Valerie Curren

Amen

Aubergine

Well, yes, that is why I do it. I am trusting God to direct me to what I need to know. And it never fails.

Aubergine

Right!

TheseTruths

It’s easier to read the Bible now that it can be downloaded to a phone and carried with you all the time.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Ah, the days of “pocket PCs”. Fond memories!

duchess01

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duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!!!

duchess01

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

🦋 🦋 🦋 🌺 🌺 🏵 😍 🏵 🌺 🌺 🦋 🦋 🦋

duchess01

Wheee…Butterflies – Flowers – Smiles – <3

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me.

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.

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Rosa

Weird stuff about the Capitol hearings. This is from Alex Sheppard’s telegram. https://t.me/realAlexSheppard/3328

[ Photo ]
Since when do Police have neck tattoos?
Don’t former convicts have spider web tattoos?

Alex Sheppard, [31.07.21 15:15]
[ Album ]
One “Capitol Hill Police Officer” said that January 6 was his first time in uniform in TEN YEARS and another one has a prison tattoo.

What’s REALLY going on?

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Grandmaintexas

Cops who work undercover often have tatts.

gil00

Neck tats like that are not allowed. No way. Full sleeves, etc had always needed to be covered, and many depts still require that, but these type are totally a nono. We are talking about Capitol “police” though. Id like to know what their training and requirements are. I also wonder if they are subject to oversight. For example here is CA:

https://porac.org/resources/peace-officers-bill-of-rights/

Emeraldstar

DC is a different country, Gil.

It has its own government, and its own laws – separate and distinct from the “united States of America”.

It’s a City-State – just like Vatican City, and the City of London (different from the whole of London).

I suspect this is why the Congressional “oversight” of the so-called “jail” (jail = county; prison = State; penitentiary = Federal) was blocked from entry.

I suspect the DC “facility” isn’t ANY of the three …

gil00

Ive never been there or new England, etc. Different animal, but I can recognize evil. This is well beyond anything i have ever seen.

Grandmaintexas

We must gird ourselves.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Nancy’s “Capitol Hill Police” are likely turning into a cartel. And she’s farming them out into America.

UGLY.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. The “imperial” analogies are getting “fast and furious” these days.

singingsoul1

Do they have authority where she puts them?
Really sly the way the Federal Government wants to get control over the states. First get rid of local police and then replace with Capitol Hill Police. What comes next?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Agreed. It’s BAD.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Did ya see Miss WHeatie’s picture of him carrying the Confederate Flag in the Cap on 1/6? LYING LIAR TRAITOR

para59r

The side by side, yes. Looks exactly like the same guy.
It wasn’t just the FBI that infiltrated Jan 6.

mollypitcher5

Article below on the order sending officers off duty early that day. They called in others to be the actors.

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Capitol Police Were Sent Home Early On Insurrection Day So They Couldn’t HelpBy Farron Cousins –
January 13, 202

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – that makes SENSE. NanXi would have taken no chances. If the China faction in .mil didn’t come through with phonies, then SHE could only rely on herself and the DNC to provide the “photo op guys”.

Nor'easter

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Grandmaintexas

Love those stories. 😁

Nor'easter

“Facist”?

Rhymes with “racist” ?!!
😉

Nor'easter

(I have a confession… I missed that until you pointed it out to me !)
😉

Deplorable Patriot

I’m seriously wondering if COVID is being used as a cover for something completely different at this point.

gil00

I think it was after the first 4-5 months. That was through end of fall to winter and spring. Plenty of time. Not only that but seeing the murders and malpractice and nursing dance videos was plenty of evidence.
They havent started killing people yet or rounding them up. I think they want the shots to do the killing for them so they have cover to fear monger further. And they villify “unvaxxed” to scapegoat and again get others to go along and do their dirty work.
Theyre angry bc the next phase is being held up. The deaths and chaos arent happening fast enough.

Deplorable Patriot

I think it’s more along the lines of keeping the people off the streets and safe(r) from whatever the [CB] has planned with the lockdowns. Word is the behind the scenes blackmail is threatening dirty bombs in the cities.

mollypitcher5

For the life of me I can’t recall who/what [ CB ] is.. but if that was true, honestly why not out the blackmail, out the source..
The ruse they’re using if the threat theory is real isn’t making the population beholden to their govt . It’s making them hate and distrust.
How would this be a win I wonder?

Deplorable Patriot

People should distrust government.

That part of the plan is working for many of us.

[CB] is the cabal, the powers that be, or at least think they do.

mollypitcher5

Ah..that’s what I thought. thanks

Grandmaintexas

Central bankers is one.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

CB are definitely part of CB! 😉

gil00

Its collapsing either way. Denial of the inevitable. You cannot run from everything.

mollypitcher5

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Ozzytrumpster

Radioactive material went missing in us
Radioactive Material Disappears En Route To Michigacomment imageBY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, JUL 29, 2021 – 10:20 PM
Radioactive material headed to Michigan from an Ohio company never made it to its destination, a filing by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission revealed. In its “Current Event Notification” report for Wednesday, the commission that regulates commercial nuclear power plants and other civilian uses of nuclear materials in the United States said the Ohio Bureau of Radiation Protection had informed officials about a missing shipment involving Prime NDT Services.
The Ohio radiation bureau learned from Prime NDT that a source of Iridium-192 was shipped through an unnamed carrier on July 12 from a facility in Strasburg, Ohio, to a facility in Michigan, the NRC said. Iridium-192 is a radioactive isotope of iridium, which can be used in industrial gauges that inspect welding seams in such equipment as pipelines and in medicine to treat certain cancers, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The material can also be used to make a dirty bomb.

Grandmaintexas

Scare tactics? Everything with a grain of salt…

Valerie Curren

benevolent tyranny???

Deplorable Patriot

And then there’s this.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

AND in Pakistan, they’re taking away cell phones and Internet from the unvaccinated.😭

TheseTruths

Thankfully, American freedom prohibits that, or it would have alrelady been done here. They’re trying to work their way up to that kind of tyranny. Ben Franklin said we have “a republic, if you can keep it.” We’re keeping it! 🇺🇸

Aubergine

I think it’s hilarious.

You can tell they WANT TO so bad!

They keep saying dumb shit to their media buddies about “mandates” and compulsion, and having to walk it back because it’s….

LITERALLY AGAINST the Constitution of the country they want to be dictators of!

Should have gone to Cuba, Bye-Done, and tried it on there. Kamel-Uh should have gone with you. And Denture-Breath Pelosi, and Schumer the Joker, too.

This is AMERICA. We don’t DO dictators, dumbasses.

singingsoul1

I hope people saw Bannon this morning? If not you can see or hear the show on replay. This is an eye opener concerning the vaccine and it is unraveling. If Fauci is smart he will not double down and confess that he was wrong.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Please provide a link! I will put up the video. To busy to chase it down myself right now.

singingsoul1

Someone further down did but I can do again.

singingsoul1

This is reaped from this morning.

https://warroom.org/listen-live/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good! I think this is what we want:

Emeraldstar

Yes, I read this, too, on CFP (DiscloseTV as the source) early this morning.

Pakistan’s second largest province (somewhat like our “State”) wants to block the SIM cards – and social media accounts – of the un-vaxxed.

It’s NEVER been about anyone’s “health”. Quite the opposite.

kalbokalbs

And nothing like it in the US. Fed and various state workers simply going to roll over and get jabbed? Yea, prolly.

Feds could easily have their version of “blue flu” and shut down huge swaths of the federal government.

Aubergine

And they should.

cthulhu

Problem is — every time they shut down huge swaths of the Federal Government, people soon begin to wonder why we ever employed all those schmucks, anyway….

gil00

Nurses in the UK repeatedly act incompetent, uncaring, and dictatorial. Completely opposite of the mission. Bad training and bad people.

Dissent Media (Official Account) ♿ (@DisabledJourno) Tweeted:
VIDEO.

NHS Nurses tell high risk expectant mother that they WILL be P C R Testing the baby once born, that the baby isn’t “The mothers property” once out of the abdomen & that the Safeguarding team (Social Services) are being notified because of their refusal.

Heroes folks …. https://t.co/oPSVuWiGRo

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

DO NOT have your child in UK!!!

pgroup2

Rent a boat and go 12 miles out to sea when labor starts.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

😱

Cuppa Covfefe

Gives a whole new meaning to the labo(u)r party…

Grandmaintexas

My God! Wish we could take them in as refugees. Wth has happened to the British medical people?????

para59r

AMLO is bucking the system and my goodness he has a health minister that agrees with him. Hopes they stays safe.

https://twitter.com/GillianMcKeith/status/1421366469095563265?s=20

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mollypitcher5

It’s such a delicious cluster for the Biden admin…the non existent border with millions sauntering in and being ferried to Anytown, USA, many of them still loyal to their countries and many who will be only listening or reading Spanish language items…they’ll no doubt see this too.

He better have excellent security..leaders who question the vax have a good chance of being silenced

eilert

How long will these two still be around?

In Mexico City they tested everybody for COVID and those that were positive were immediately given Ivermectin. This was so successful that the COVID numbers went down immediately and they still have low numbers.

gil00

Excellent. Actually thinking independently as a leader should.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This guy is very smart. His attitude is ON THE MONEY.

singingsoul1

What did he say for those of us who do not speak Spanish?

para59r

Basically ALMO and his Health Official are questioning the need for the vaccine in that Big Pharma is likely to insist on a round two, three and four along with the children and where does it stop while Big Pharma are the ones that are controlling the messaging on the vaccines. He’s not trusting it.

singingsoul1

Wow Thank you

piper567

para, I hope he beefs up his personal security.
The last 3 Presidents of “rouge” Countries are dead.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Per Dr. Malone on Warroom, this is how we handle WuFlu. Today’s episode is Fantastic, a MUST WATCH!!
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mollypitcher5

Yum, that looks good and easy to make. Gotta try that one

mollypitcher5

ty!

gil00

I put it in my list too.thx

Deplorable Patriot

Ahh, this I can use.

Ozzytrumpster

I dissent. Those little green things look like chives

Grandmaintexas

You all must watch today’s War Room. Every moment is gold.

Beginning of the second hour for Christians, especially.

All I can say is: SYMBOLISM WILL BE THEIR DOWNFALL. 😄😄😄

TheseTruths

For anyone not familiar, go to this link: https://americasvoice.news/playlists/the-war-room/

The episodes are archived there. They are divided into ~15-minute segments. Just click on a segment to see which one it is in the series.

Grandmaintexas

Thank you. They don’t make it easy to figure out.

singularzoe

I did not receive my email with the link to the daily thread as usual. Checked trash and spam, just in case. Not there. I’ll wait and see if it appears tomorrow before trying to do anything about it, I think. My current belief regarding covid19. It’s the spike protein that made some so sick, but the real purpose was to frighten people into taking the bio-weapon shots in which the spike protein is used to introduce the graphene oxide, which will be activated by 5g, Etc., to meld humans to the internet and thereby completely enslave them, that the shots are not vaccines at all, and that the so-called variants are really side effects, including death for many, of the spike protein. I admit I’m not a scientist, and this is the best way I describe in my own mind what is going on. I know Wolfmoon believes they are vaccines. I also do not believe the influenza shots are vaccines. TB are vaccines, smallpox are vaccines. My opinion only for most of the above, of course.

Emeraldstar

One of the great things about logic, Zoe, is that one needn’t have the answer, or the proof, to decide on a course of action.

The consequences of you’re being right FAR outweigh the consequences of you’re being wrong.

When looked at this way, it’s an easy decision.

This is why I don’t may much heed to those demanding “proof” before making a decision. By the time one has this “proof” … it’s often too late.

Emeraldstar

“Pay”, not “may” …

singularzoe

I like it, Emeraldstar

cthulhu

You’re replying to replies again!

singularzoe

But cthulhu, I’m doing it in the reader part of wordpress, not under the comment.

cthulhu

Oh.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Absolutely!

I use a broad definition of vaccine, acceptable to even our enemies, from which they cannot escape, which has zero bias on either efficacy or mechanism, so that the ideas “non-working vaccine”, “failed vaccine”, and “[arbitrary type] vaccine” (including “cancer vaccine”) all make logical sense. Any definition of vaccine which attempts to shoehorn either an efficacy requirement or mechanistic criteria beyond “stimulation of immunity to a purpose through an antigen” is, IMO, attempting to sneak agenda into the argument, simultaneously weakening arguments.

“It’s not a vaccine” is (IMO) a weak argument. “It’s a new / different / untested / contradictory / illogical / faulty vaccine for the following reasons” is a strong and precise argument, from which our enemies have to argue “Look! Squirrel!”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think she will. I wanted to respond to you to make it seem more generally directed, which it was. I know most people here don’t like my definition of vaccines, which is nearly identical to that of the lying CDC, but is also accepted by the scientists who offer the most profound criticisms of the new and problematic vaccines.

singularzoe

Hi, Steve. I think he does. I just refuse to refer to these shots as “vaccines.” I also refuse to refer to “lock-downs” as though we were criminals. It is false imprisonment.

Grandmaintexas

False imprisonment. That’s it!

singularzoe

Grandma, did I steal “false imprisonment” from you? Someone here used the term, and I stole it. I want to thank whoever it was.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I turned off subscription emails temporarily to keep the Russian spammers out.

Sorry about that.

I salted the ground to shut down attacks on the site. I will open things back up slowly, contingent on ZERO spam registrations as a result of each step.

singularzoe

Well, Wolf, I wondered if it was something to do with that but thank you for letting me know. I support that and hope it will help fix our site.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks!

singularzoe

I am laughing, have to address Wolf again regarding use of the term “vaccine.” I see your point. Partly I refuse to use the term because non-scientists, of which I am one, automatically assign “good” or “helpful” or other virtue signal words to “vaccines.” When I refer to the shots as “vaccines,” friends and family say things like, “I saw how in the studies the animals eventually died. I don’t care, I just want life to get back to normal. … Even if the vaccine helps a little, it’s worth it. … I know I could still pass the virus on to others if I get it, but I won’t be that sick, I don’t care.” I paraphrased the sorts of arguments I’ve heard. Besides which, I think by definition vaccines should give one total immunity, which these don’t, nor do the influenza ones.

singularzoe

Oh, lol, Wolf, meant to say at the beginning, I smiled at your word “seem”. Just teasing you.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

No problem! And very happy that you are sometimes able to reply to a reply now, and don’t have to go to the end of the comments always. This is progress!

singularzoe

Well, Wolf, always glad when you are happy about something, except I still Always have to go to you know where to reply to a comment, it’s not really changed. Wish I could tell you differently.

Grandmaintexas

From barnhardt.biz:
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Grandmaintexas

Sorry about the picture. 🤣

Emeraldstar

I don’t know either (and I’ve come across blatant misquotes, too), but much may be lost in translation.

Have you checked to see what the translations from Russian-into-English may be? Perhaps start with close synonyms in English for “tolerance”, and then see what comes up for them in Russian.

Even not-so-close synonyms may be the key – like “acceptance”, “allowance”, “submission”, etc.

Dostoievski is quite a famous author – and the spell-check provides two different spellings (a “j” and a “y” instead of the “I”) than the one used in the meme.

Even alternative words for “imbeciles” may help in the keyword search.

Just a couple thoughts! (I’d like to know, too, whether it’s genuine …)

Grandmaintexas

Thank you for checking on that. Barnhardt is usually thorough, but no one is perfect.

Cuppa Covfefe

While you’re apologizing, where’s the bacon ? 🙂
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Grandmaintexas

We ate it all for breakfast. 😄

Cuppa Covfefe

Well, hurry up, make some more 😆
There’s two free burners on that stove…

Grandmaintexas

I’m frigging done for the day. Watering in 100 degree weather just tuckered me out.

Have a pot of chili on my stove now. Glass of chardonnay and watching my chickens is all that’s left on the schedule.

If the kids stop by they can MAKE DO. 😄

Cuppa Covfefe

WHITE WINE WITH CHILI?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAVE YOU NO GOOD BEER OR RED WINE IN THE HOUSE????

(or are you hiding Coors Lite and not saying :lol:)

Be sure to use Serranos, and PINK BEANS or PINTOS, none of that Kidney Bean Yuppie stuff 😀

(remember Dagwood and his Beanery’s Chili?)

Linda

I don’t know if that’s a real quote either, but the article and video Grandma posted is must reading and horribly chilling. In short, 65% of injected people are returning positive D-Dimer tests. That means they have micro clots in their blood vessels and capillaries that will cause heart failure within 3 years. Wolf?

Cuppa Covfefe

Yikes!!!

And I have extended family (who should know better) who’ve gotten the jab… 😡 😡 😡

Barb Meier
eilert

gil00

PORK concerns👀👀:

At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market.

With little time left to build new facilities, inseminate sows and process the offspring by January, it’s hard to see how the pork industry can adequately supply California, which consumes roughly 15% of all pork produced in the country.

If half the pork supply was suddenly lost in California, bacon prices would jump 60%, meaning a $6 package would rise to about $9.60, according to a study by the Hatamiya Group, a consulting firm hired by opponents of the state proposition.

The California rules also create a challenge for slaughterhouses, which now may send different cuts of a single hog to locations around the nation and to other countries. Processors will need to design new systems to track California-compliant hogs and separate those premium cuts from standard pork that can serve the rest of the country.

PAY ATTENTION RIGHT HERE:

At least initially, analysts predict that even as California pork prices soar, customers elsewhere in the country will see little difference. Eventually, California’s new rules could become a national standard because processors can’t afford to ignore the market in such a large state.

https://abc7.com/amp/bacon-california-pig-pork/10921404/?__twitter_impression=true

Cuppa Covfefe

They’re already doing that here, driving up the cost of meat so everyone has to go vegan and eat soy so they can be compiiant, simpering, non-protesting drones…

They take better care of animals here than they do of people. Moreover there is an outright ban of killing (shredding) male chicks (can’t lay eggs, no matter how they identify, and don’t have as much or as tender meat, also no matter how they identify), yet the don’t bat an eye or care one whit about babies being aborted. In fact, they celebrate it…

As it was in the days of Noah (or could have been, if they’d had abortion back then).

Just wondering when the other half of I Timothy:4 comes about: the forbidding of marriage…

I Timothy 4:1-4:

4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

Ozzytrumpster

And china is so desperate for proteins that they may have engineered this. With maple Castro

gil00

Its CA. We want our animals healthy but they twist everything to gain control.

eilert

Here is another one:

Grandmaintexas

Cramer, you don’t know the law because you are a communist tool.

Gail Combs

Shooting an UNARMED WOMAN WHO IS NOT THREATENING YOU IS MURDER!!!

gil00

Western countries have leaders who hate their own. Then why not treat them accordingly?

Allison Pearson (@AllisonPearson) Tweeted:
Our NHS.
And over 170,000 people in care homes died without being able to say goodbye to husbands, wives, children.
Compassionate country we live in, eh?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOW.

Democrats AND British bureaucrats are COMMUNISTS.

singingsoul1

UK overload on the government health insurance and US overload on medicare and SS. Who are the easiest people not to care for? The people in the nursing facilities.
I am now calling them facilities because that is what they are not homes.

scott467

They are the new death camps for the aged and infirm.

eilert
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The evil of Nancy Pelosi will be remembered for a very long time.

mollypitcher5

Only if there remains people or script that can attest to her tyranny..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

True. And THAT is sad.

ForGodandCountry

There will be.

cthulhu

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Aubergine

Ah, the first Terminator.

The most romantic movie ever made.

Aubergine

Haha!

barkerjim

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cthulhu

I hate it when this happens….

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barkerjim

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Cuppa Covfefe

Sounds like more than a Yogi could Bear…

mollypitcher5

Who hasn’t been paid to propagandize for the shots is a fair question.

Mitch McConnell To Air Pro-Vaccine Ads On Kentucky Radio Stations
The 60-second spot will be paid for by the Republican senator’s reelection campaign and will draw on his experience surviving polio as a child.
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By Igor Bobic

A report by Axios shows how much the state has put into a social media push to get information about vaccines to Coloradans. Using $8.8 million in CARES Act funds, the state government has contracted with the Denver-based Idea Marketing to hire 126 social media influencers across diverse demographics.

Inside the $250 million effort to convince Americans the coronavirus vaccines are safe
BY GRAHAM KATES

UPDATED ON: DECEMBER 23, 2020 / 10:43 PM / CBS NEWS

Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia is prodding all physicians to make regular social media posts promoting inoculation, even maintaining a repository of vaccine-related GIFs they can deploy. Kaiser Permanente is identifying social media heavyweights in particular communities, or “micro-influencers,” to spread pro-vaccine messages — and in some cases even offering to pay them.

There’s a lot more..too many to list

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Emeraldstar

They want it WAY TOO BAD to be sincere.

Street-corner drug-pushers can’t hold a candle to what these cretins are perpetrating.

It’s a time-tested, and classic, ploy of tyrants and wanna-be tyrants to claim that they’re taking such actions “for the safety” of those they’re trying to oppress / murder.

I haven’t any doubt we’re in WWIII.

mollypitcher5

Totally agree EmStar and no mistake, it is world wide .

Emeraldstar

IMO, there isn’t any way that it can be ORGANIC that SO many nations have hopped on board with this scam.

Mexico is one of the few major countries that seems to be balking, and that’s good – but almost every other country?

The only reasonable conclusion is that there is power BEYOND that of individual countries – pulling their strings, as it were.

And THAT is the scary part – that there is a power GREATER than any nation, than almost ALL nations – that is orchestrating this world-wide event, in near-perfect lockstep.

Who’s doing it? Who’s behind the curtain? Who controls this MASSIVE world-wide effort to bring the peoples of this planet under total and permanent subjugation?

Although those-in-the-know know … WE don’t know (yet).

I think the Redshields (central bankers, controlling 95% of the countries via financial enslavement) are the number-two.

But we haven’t identified the number-one culprit (again – yet!).

I believe it’s coming soon, though. The panicked-pace of their intended implementation of WW tyranny is becoming clear now, even to those who’ve been oblivious up until now.

The heart of evil is absolutely BLACK. This is what we’re fighting. It truly IS “Biblical” …

God wins – and we can take the greatest courage, and hope, from that.

Grandmaintexas

Understanding that it is GOD who will give us the victory allows us to keep going in the face of the hellishness.

If GOD is for us WHO can be against us?

NOTHING ON EARTH OR BENEATH THE EARTH OR IN THE AIR can defeat us.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

scott467

“NOTHING ON EARTH OR BENEATH THE EARTH OR IN THE AIR can defeat us.”

___________

But a few things on the earth or in the air could certainly help us.

We have certainly paid, equipped and trained them awfully well to sit by and do nothing.

I know, I know, they’re doing all kinds of super secret stuff in the background, and they’re professional charades champions, so they can’t tell us anything, they can only show us.

For four year, nine months and counting.

We entered, won and came home from WWII in less time than that.

And we didn’t even keep it a secret from he American People.

Quite the opposite.

The American People were key to the entire war winning effort.

And the good guys explained it to the People, without relying on charades or mimes or anything, they actually just told them, in addition to showing them.

Grandmaintexas

You sound more and more like a troll every day.

Just saying, friend.

gil00

Cynics need answers and arent completely reliant on faith alone. Its a coordination thats needed, with some leadership and answers. He isnt trying to troll. Theres a deep frustration with it all, I cannot let myself get that far into the weeds but I get the difficulty in weathering the situation.

Grandmaintexas

Not so sure. Think back.

scott467

“Not so sure. Think back.”

__________

Think back to what?

Am I being accused of something of which I should defend myself, or did I misunderstand?

scott467

“I presume you understood you are being accused by these people of being a troll.”

_______

I understood that it’s a possibility, so I asked for confirmation.

I have noticed that these three (and sometimes a fourth) occasionally converge on someone they disagree with, and sometimes they overdo it a bit.

But I don’t remember any of them being mean-spirited, or at least I never took it that way. And so I wouldn’t take it that way, unless they were explicit about it.

And even then, it would be hard not to tease them in response, because I don’t think they would really mean it.

Even if they did 😂

Deplorable Patriot

You noticed. Good.

Linda

How about we don’t go after Scott and we don’t call people’s opinions “delusional fantasies.”

Aubergine

I don;t think they are delusional fantasies, I think they are hope. And hope is a two-edged sword.

I, too, want to hope. But my ever-logical and relentless mind finds little hope in our current situation.

I feel like Mulder did about aliens…

I want to believe.

Aubergine

It can, yes.

mollypitcher5

Thanks a million for this. I feel the same but couldn’t find the words.
Sometimes the timeline gets me…Biblically the “saving” might be centuries. We keep expanding the ‘when it all started going evil’ and it’s been many decades and no saving happening yet.
I’m getting less able to reconcile our timeframe and God’s.

Aubergine

Man plans, God laughs.

“Let go and let God” is what the AA people say. Saying it and believing in it is one thing, actually DOING it is actually another!

It’s a daily, sometimes hourly, struggle for me, which I frequently lose.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m not going to “go after” Scott. It’s pointless.

scott467

“I’m not going to “go after” Scott. It’s pointless.”

__________

Maybe I’m just playing hard to get, you don’t know…

Don’t give up so easy 👍😘😁

Grandmaintexas

For awhile now…I keep quiet. 😀

ForGodandCountry

From Day 1 on my part. And I have never been quiet about it.

scott467

“From Day 1 on my part. And I have never been quiet about it.”

___________

That’s why you’re like my sidekick, my favorite rake-stepper 👍😁

Emeraldstar

We didn’t “win” WWII, Scott.

We only *apparently* “won”.

I’d hoped you’d have figured that out by now.

After WW2 was “over”, General Patton said:

“[W]e defeated the wrong enemy.”

Senator Joseph McCarthy was RIGHT, in the 1950’s, about communist infiltration into America. He got smeared.

Eisenhower warned against the megalithic “military industrial complex” in 1961.

JFK was RIGHT, about “infiltration”, rather than “invasion”, and all the secret societies – it’s a famous clip.

The Clowns executed “Operation Paper Clip”, to SAVE as many Nah! Z’s as practicable – especially those who did IN-HUMAN experimentation, following Mengele.

Disney – and Hollyweird in general – have been exploiting children for many decades – both before AND after WWII.

Need more? Try researching for yourself. I know a GREAT place to start – well, it’s also a TIME.

October 28, 2017.

It’s be Kewl if you start there, and then.

What tree is this?

scott467

We didn’t “win” WWII, Scott.
We only *apparently* “won”.
I’d hoped you’d have figured that out by now.”

_____________

Is that a ‘faith alone’ statement, am I only allowed to visit the club so long as I accept the foundational principles of “the faith”?

You know just how sensitive I am to peer pressure.

I was hoping you would know that as a general statement, we did ‘win’ WWII, certainly from the standpoint of the cessation of military battles, and certainly from the standpoint of U.S. world economic dominance for the following 50 years.

So it wasn’t nothing.

And ALL of that, from the moment the first bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbor, to the time the last of our combat troops came home, was as I said, LESS than the time that has already elapsed between the time DJT took office and today.

.

“After WW2 was “over”, General Patton said:
“[W]e defeated the wrong enemy.”

Did he specify who the ‘right’ enemy was, or was he a secret mime and charade professional like all our current white hat spooks?

.

“Senator Joseph McCarthy was RIGHT, in the 1950’s, about communist infiltration into America. He got smeared.”

I know that. What does that have to do with why our military has allowed a foreign hostile adversary to take over our government?

Or if they didn’t take over our government, then who is running our government?

How long does this farce go on, before you consider the possibility that the reddest pill of all is that there is no one coming to the rescue, and we’re on our own?

.

“Eisenhower warned against the megalithic “military industrial complex” in 1961.”

Yes, I know. What does that have to do with the specific, current situation we are dealing with right now, in other words, how does Eisenhower’s quote help us to confront and defeat the enemy he warned us against?

.

“JFK was RIGHT, about “infiltration”, rather than “invasion”, and all the secret societies – it’s a famous clip.”

Yes, it’s so famous even I’ve seen it. What does that have to do with NOW, and what we do about NOW?

.

“The Clowns executed “Operation Paper Clip”, to SAVE as many Nah! Z’s as practicable – especially those who did IN-HUMAN experimentation, following Mengele.”

I love story time, and these are all good ones, I know them well. What do any of them have to do with anything we are dealing with NOW?

As a mental exercise, put yourself in a trench in WWI, at night, and the Germans are advancing on our position.

You’re regaling me with anecdotes about Kaiser Wilhelm and Napoleon and Rothschild, while I’m pointing at the Nazi who is about 30 feet away from us, crawling on his belly.

I love your stories, but the Nazi is close enough now that I can see his face, and in the quiet of the night your voice travels quite a bit further than the distance from our position and the German crawling towards us.

And I can tell from the expression on his face that he doesn’t care about your vast knowledge of everything that has led up to this moment in time, where he is crawling toward you on his belly with a knife in his teeth.

I don’t think he’s here for story time.

And now he’s just 20 feet away.

So what I would like to know, is what you intend to do, when he gets here.

Because our military bugged out.

They’re on a transgender safari retreat.

Unless you have some evidence to the contrary?

.

“Disney – and Hollyweird in general – have been exploiting children for many decades – both before AND after WWII.”

Yeah I know, you don’t have to recite The Tell of Captain Walker to me, I’ve heard it enough times that I get the gist of it.

What I never hear discussed, is what we’re going to DO about it.

Imagine if after Pearl Harbor, Americans came together and tried to talk the Japanese to death.

Imagine if we didn’t manufacture or issue a single rifle, didn’t build a single plane, didn’t build a single ship, didn’t raise money by selling war bonds, didn’t even acknowledge that Pearl Harbor was bombed.

Instead, we just learned how to mime, and developed an extensive vocabulary of code-talk for the initiated to recognize each other, who know the back story of how Pearl Harbor happened, and what the plans of the Axis Powers are, and how those plans are being carried out every day.

But we never actually DID anything about it, we just talked.

How do you think that would have turned out?

Because it looks like that’s the strategy we’re using right now, and I have a strong sense that the enemy — any enemy, at any time in history — would like nothing better than for their target to do nothing besides turn into masters of the analysis of their own demise.

At some point, someone has to stop the rape in progress, because the rapers never stop themselves.

That means either a professional military is going to stop them (e.g., Myanmar), or it means We the People are going to have to do it, if our military — the most powerful military in the world — took a powder.

If you have any genuine concern about the future at all, then figuring out whether the military is going to do anything, or whether we’re on our own, has to be awfully close to the front burner.

If it is your contention that the military is going to show up some day (it has been 9 months and counting since the election was stolen with assistance from our chief adversary on the planet), what evidence do you have to support that belief?

Will you not share THAT with us, instead of our version of The Tell of Capt. Walker?

And if it is your contention that we’re on our own, then what are we waiting for to happen?

I’m pretty sure we can’t force the enemy into submission by bombarding him with anecdotes.

I understand that women have a natural aversion to physical conflict. As far as I know, no war has ever been initiated, declared or fought by women.

Of all the things which women seem to want equality with men, I hope man’s capacity for war is never one of them.

But our enemies are not women, and they are not led by women.

And I understand that women are the majority of most online forums like this one, and I understand that generally speaking, women are better at talking (communicating) than men, which is why women often dominate forums like this one.

But a Communist with a gun doesn’t care about your words (or mine).

He’s crawling toward our trench line.

He’s only about 15 feet away now.

What are you going to do when he gets here?

And why are we waiting for him to attack us first anyway?

gil00

Can we id any real leaders on our side? No one is really saying tyranny. Theyre afraid to it seems. and im sitting here with my son watching a Harry Potter movie. A more entertaining metaphor for the worlds situation. They still end up not wanting to cause pain and yet it happens anyway.
We are lucky atm that we can debate and also need to have hard conversations about where we will end up.
Some people are afraid of the reality and others will not discuss it on a forum for security reasons.
No matter what though, it comes diwn in the end to personal safety and your own red line.
All I can “hope” is that enough of us can stand together where and when it counts.

scott467

“Some people are afraid of the reality and others will not discuss it on a forum for security reasons.”

____________

They can’t arrest everybody, so the more people there are who speak out, the safer it is, for everybody.

Maybe call it The Spartacus Principle 😁

gil00

No they cant, like russia they tried and used other means, but we still have si many freedoms that yes, we should speak up when we feel the need. Leaders, we need more.
I saw this today. Here is someone in Scotland who gets it. Need more!

https://youtu.be/Y-5QtS5pwiI

scott467

That was GREAT, thank you giloo! 👍

gil00

Yw. I thought youd appreciate. Citizen free press ended up posting it so i figured people here would like it. I reposted on top of Sundays for everyone else. Have a nice day.

Aubergine

Oh, he is fantastic! Thank you for posting. I could listen to him talk all day.

scott467

It did take me a few times to figure out what “turney” (tyranny) was, because of the thick accent 😁

Aubergine

Lol! I was raised in the Appalachian South. He sounds perfectly normal to me!

scott467

I was just trying to sound it out, maybe t’rny would have been a better way to write it.

It wasn’t until about the third time he said it that I understood it.

I have a similar problem with song lyrics. Regularly there is some word or even a couple of words together (as they are being sung) that I just have no idea what the singer is saying, until I look up the lyrics online.

Then it makes sense (usually) 😁

Tonawanda

Totally agree with your analysis (and metaphor), as I have all along, with this caveat: all of us to some degree are guessing.

No disrespect toward anyone intended whatsoever by this following remark, but I will say this: it is impossible for me to comprehend how a reasonable person could think you are, or might be, a troll.

There is a lot in what you say in passing about other subjects relating to site dynamics, which I do not want to discuss.

Several months ago Steve wrote a brilliant post which I found to be very “hard” but very compassionate, essential pointing out the unreality of aspects of the pure Q pov. IMO it was something we needed to hear and consider.

Similarly, your well written and often entertaining posts are, IMO, something we need to hear and consider. They strike me as being most probably true, and so I might consider them more affirmatively than many.

But they can be considered by anybody without suspecting any nefarious ulterior motive, especially because you have so consistently (and often eloquently) agreed in detail with everyone else here on the evil which actually confronts us.

scott467

Tonawanda, thank you for your kind words, very much appreciated! 👍

scott467

“Need more? Try researching for yourself. I know a GREAT place to start – well, it’s also a TIME.
October 28, 2017.
It’s be Kewl if you start there, and then.”

______________

I found out about Q on October 29th or 30th of 2017, and I kept up with Q all the way until Q stopped posting.

Which was a long time ago.

I realize this is an emotional issue for many people, and as such, appeals to logic and reason tend to aggravate many of those same people.

It is not my intention to aggravate, or annoy.

I’m doing what I always do, asking questions, in a variety of different ways.

Q hasn’t posted anything since December 8th of 2020, or about 8 months.

The military has allowed someone who is clearly and obviously not the lawfully elected leader to occupy the position of the presidency for 7 months.

Not 7 minutes, or 7 hours, or even 7 days.

Seven months.

This ought to be concerning to any rational human being.

We have played ‘move the goal posts’ since DJT was elected. This results in plenty of contention among patriots and supporters, naturally.

Like most problems, there is a simple way to resolve the ‘moving goal post’ problem.

There has to be a ‘good till’ expiration date, when wished-for outcomes must be set aside. What that date is is debatable, but there has to be one.

Even the most ardent true believer (in whatever rescue is expected to take place) has to acknowledge that if 20 more years go by and nothing has changed, then the military was never coming, and we’ve been had.

At SOME point — if we reach it and nothing has substantially changed — we will have to admit we were wrong, or we’re just the opposite side of the Democrat coin, living in our own form of denial.

Clearly we can’t wait 20 years to reach that conclusion, and it’s hard to imagine anyone would argue otherwise.

Or even 10 years.

Or even 5 years. As discussed above, we entered, won and returned home from WORLD WAR in less time than that.

Pearl Harbor was on December 7th, 1941. The Nazis surrendered to the Allies on May 7th, 1945. That is THREE years and five months, start to finish.

The Japanese surrendered on September 2, 1945. That is just under THREE YEARS and NINE months, start to finish.

By comparison, we haven’t even arrested anyone yet, unless you count Kevin Clinesmith, who really took a brutal beating in the just-us system. Community service and time served (nothing), if I recall.

It has already been longer than WWII since Trump took office. I know it’s hard to remember now, but that was supposed to be our big VICTORY, because once Trump had control of the military, the criminal government’s goose was cooked.

The criminal agencies of government couldn’t defeat the United States military, they wouldn’t even try, they would run just like the criminals they are.

Remember? Hillary was finally going to prison. Hussein was going to prison. They were finally ALL going to prison (or the gas chamber), because we had accomplished the impossible — we actually WON on election day.

It was one of the best days of my life.

And then what happened?

And here we are, nearly half a decade later.

First the games began, and the delays, and we have to let this play out, and the optics would be bad for that, and this has to happen before than can happen, and ALL the BS in the whole world will be added to that plate if we allow it, all the way until the end of time.

So a line has to be drawn somewhere.

But some (understandably) don’t want to draw a line anywhere, because if the goal posts are set in concrete and that day comes and goes without any change in status, then they will have to concede that whatever they believed was wrong.

One solution to that problem is an open-ended commitment that even it if takes forever, we will manage to win.

But that’s not real or honest.

We’re already well past the amount of time it took to engage and win WWII, and what do we have to show for it so far?

I’m not trying to demoralize anyone by pointing out the truth, quite the opposite. How can we ever get to a point of making actual progress, if we don’t acknowledge that what we’re currently doing isn’t working?

So what date would those who counsel further waiting like to set?

It has already been nearly half a decade.

How many more years before we see some visible, tangible, undeniable progress?

It’s a fair question, isn’t it?

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Tonawanda

It is also interesting to me how Scott has had not an iota of disrespect or abuse toward other posters, and never fails to actually address points of contention. To my mind, that is significant in assessing his posts.

Aubergine

He is ever-cheerful and never disrespectful. He is questioning and that is uncomfortable.

scott467

Questioning is also a much softer or gentle technique than declarative statements 👍

Not trying to make anyone uncomfortable by it, just trying to frame things in a less confrontational way, to allow for the possibility of a different response, rather than an automatic or reflexive (defensive) response.

It doesn’t always work, but at the very least, it can help to avoid a negative reaction, which in some circumstances might be the best you can do 👍

Aubergine

I like hard questions. It makes me think.

And you’re welcome!

scott467

And thank you! 👍😁

scott467

“It is also interesting to me how Scott has had not an iota of disrespect or abuse toward other posters,”

__________

That part’s easy, I like everybody here, and we’re all on the same side 👍

It’s a whole different ballgame when I’m on an enemy forum (rarely), or a forum where there are lots of Lefties to fight with, like Breitbart.

Or at least that’s how it used to be, I haven’t been there in a while 😁

gil00

Yes. Very fair.

Aubergine

Yes, sir, it is an eminently FAIR question. And it makes people REALLY uncomfortable.

And that’s the problem, really. I have a few “real-life” friends who are true believers, that Q had a plan, we are in it, this is a movie, etc.

And what I note in them is, it allows them to go about their everyday lives without the constant worry and anxiety for the future that I have.

I envy them. But as I have said before, my relentless, logical mind won’t leave me alone. I can’t help but see the possibility that all our “hope” may be in nothing at all.

And you are correct about needing an end-date, a line in the sand. How long do we wait to find out WHO is right?

Emeraldstar

>>”I envy them. But as I have said before, my relentless, logical mind won’t leave me alone.”<<

There are two parts to the mind (well, actually three, when counting the connection between the two):

the “left” side, which is the creative half (the “yes” – belief, faith, trust, creating [art, music, literature, and more], and

the “right” side, which is the destructive half (the “no” – reason, analysis, logic, science).

Getting the two to work together is very difficult – and most people have more ability (sometimes MUCH more) in one side than the other.

I began with a potent left-side; knowing this, I consciously decided to work on my weakness (by comparison), the right-side.

As I think I’ve said here before, negation is PREDICATIVE. The “no” of destructivity requires the “yes” of creativity – beforehand – to negate.

Creation comes FIRST; therefore, it is greater in *quality* (independent) than destruction (dependent).

In the case that the white-hat military will act, then we must do our utmost to keep faith with them – this will create the maximum WIN, and the most satisfying and long-lasting WIN.

That’s why I’m all-in.

And, somewhat ironically, it’s more logical to do so! This is the essence of game-theory.

It’s also the meaning of “Future proves past.”

Food for thought – I hope it helps with the anxiety! It isn’t wrong to doubt, now and again … but when one lets that take hold as the *primary* feeling – permanent, rather than temporary – then one may wish to re-assess.

The military cannot succeed without US … and we cannot succeed without THEM. Each must have faith in the other for it to work.

Aubergine

I am trying hard to balance the “creative” and the “destructive.”

I am in a holding pattern.

scott467

“the “left” side, which is the creative half (the “yes” – belief, faith, trust, creating [art, music, literature, and more], andthe “right” side, which is the destructive half (the “no” – reason, analysis, logic, science).”

___________

This makes good sense.

I had lots of confidence and trust in the military.

But then the military destroyed that trust, by allowing the Chinese Communist Party and criminal traitors in our own government to steal the election.

They just stood by and let them do it.

And not only that, but to make matters worse, they didn’t even correct their mistake.

Nine months have gone by, and there’s not a single sign that the military intends to do anything about it at all.

And the more time that goes by, the more certain that becomes.

Like momentum or inertia. There was plenty of momentum and inertia (and support) to do a Myanmar dance on the Deep State’s face right after the election.

But now?

Bodies at rest tend to stay at rest.

Our military has been resting for a long time now since the election.

Very well rested, they are.

Aubergine

I think we are all just hanging on in whatever ways we can. This is so anxiety-producing for me that I am simply walling off and waiting.

My dad always said “hide and watch,” so I am heeding that advice.

Aubergine

And please, keep asking your uncomfortable questions. It’s important that they be asked, and not everyone will have the fortitude to risk the blowback to ask them.

scott467

I have a home-made blowback deflector.

It’s sort of like the deflector they use on aircraft carriers, to block jet thrust before take off 👍 😂

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Aubergine

Lol! Liking the image of you in a wind tunnel!

Aubergine

The purple screw? Careful now, remember who you’re talking to! Lol!

Cuppa Covfefe

The interview Ronald Bernard, the Dutch Financier, explains the levels ABOVE the “red shields”. There are 7.5 Billion of us, but only about seven thousand of them.

The interviews are in Dutch, with English subtitles, which are extremely accurate, according to my Dutch-speaking friends (and other reviews).
In the first video he explains the “network”… the vids are well worth the time to watch, and EXTREMELY informative. Also as to what goes on at that level. Money embargoes (e.g. Iran)? No problem. They can be gotten around, even without pallets of cash…..

Here are all the Ronald Bernard videos with English subtitles (there are five, plus an FAQ) from the interviewer’s channel: (replace underscores with periods) (Hope sausage-squisher doesn’t do it automatically…)

Channel:
www_youtube_com/channel/UCOvbkPculjIPn0ufvroG7sg/videos

Part 1
www_youtube_com/watch?v=i0hb8dfKN8k

Part 2
www_youtube_com/watch?v=3C-KHt9vi5k

Part 3
www_youtube_com/watch?v=Y0Fwe4YkMa4

Part 4
www_youtube_com/watch?v=Zk-67sxjyiY

Part 5
www_youtube_com/watch?v=KumKiCc8dKg

Ronald Bernard – FAQs
www_youtube_com/watch?v=9pNQRMMxYGE

Grandmaintexas

Thank you. These are strikingly profound.

gil00

I thought there was only 1

Cuppa Covfefe

Originally there was only one, basically the first two of these interviews. Then they expanded (and overdubbed) the material, adding another four or so interviews, and an FAQ. In addition, there’s a YouTube Channel now.

The original video has a transcript (I downloaded that onto another PC, I could post it if anyone wants it); not sure if these do. Ronald Bernard is still active in his projects, and has been through a TON of hardship. Well worth watching. There are probably transcripts, but I just wanted to put these up, as they give a REAL picture of what the Cabal is up to, and just how EVIL they are…

Emeraldstar

Thanks for posting these, Cuppa.

I watched only a part of the first interview (15-20 min?), quite a while back – and because I knew mostly where it was going, I did myself a favor and bailed.

One cannot go down ALL the rabbit holes, and keep ones sanity / perspective.

There are some dangers a man must flee (channeling Faramir …).

Cuppa Covfefe

You HAVE to go on to around 25 mins or so… that’s where he says what REALLY goes on at those meetings… stunning, tragic, and eye-opening. As SD used to say, and Wolf does now, DO NOT LOOK AWAY…

Cuppa Covfefe

Honestly everyone, this describes TO A “T” what the “Deep State” and their minions are about.

PLEASE, if you only watch just one of these videos, watch this first one.

Ephesians 6:10-18 in real time.

He didn’t believe it until he was asked to go to a meeting where a child sacrifice was to be done. And then he realized just exactly what was going on, and just how evil these people are.

Until we see and realize what we are up against, we won’t assemble the tools (and allies) we need to fight this. And above all, prayer.

Note also that he talks about psychology and “manipulating sheep” as part of his (former) job. Just as they are doing now with KungFlu…

Grandmaintexas

Amen. People just don’t want to accept the truth.

Cuppa Covfefe

Oh, and speaking of Faramir, here’s something from the comments of a twitter upthread 🙂 (a few f-bombs, etc.) (the gif, drat…):

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gil00

Ty then.

scott467

It makes me wonder immediately why DeepStatetube has left these videos up, and why this guy hasn’t been silenced.

They routinely Arkancide people with far less knowledge than Ronald Bernard, people who don’t even speak about their knowledge publicly.

Cuppa Covfefe

When you look at the levels at which he operated, he could probably cause a few *cough* problems and then some were he to release any deeper info (e.g. names)… And if you listen to all of the videos, there’s a lot more to this…

And these are one other sites as well; the interview was done by a famous Dutch interviewer, so they can’t just squash these out of hand…

But of course, blow these off if you will. There are other reports and victims/reporters of the same…

scott467

“But of course, blow these off if you will. There are other reports and victims/reporters of the same…”

__________

I’m not saying that he isn’t telling the truth, I just reflexively wonder why the people he could expose haven’t silenced him, and why these same people, who control the enemy platform (youtube) haven’t removed the videos.

Considering they have no hesitancy to silence people or remove videos that merely contradict their narrative — much less expose them — whenever it suits them.

mollypitcher5

I’m guessing that the utube nazis weren’t doing a deep dive considering it had illuminati in the title..you know that’s just for the flat earth crowd, not worth their attention

scott467

“I’m guessing that the utube nazis weren’t doing a deep dive considering it had illuminati in the title..you know that’s just for the flat earth crowd, not worth their attention”

___________

That’s plausible, except I expect they have algorithms that do all the work, automatically transcribe all videos, automatically do word searches on all transcripts, and red flag those with even 1/100th of the key words inherent to any discussion like the one in those Ronald Bernard videos.

Cuppa Covfefe

Which are in Dutch…..

scott467

“Which are in Dutch…..”

____________

I’m not sure why that would make a difference. Certainly Goog/youtube has voice-to-text translator programs for most if not every language spoken on earth.

Military grade, not the consumer grade stuff like Dragon Naturally Speaking.

Even more, there is a text transcript at youtube for this video.

Click on the three dots (…) to the right of “save”, below the video, to the right of center screen. Select ‘transcript’ from the drop down menu.

It’s in dutch, but GoogleTranslate will translate it.

This should be easy stuff for Big Tech.

Plus it is translated into English for the subtitles on the video itself.

Certainly Goog/Youtube has technology now to read text in memes, photos and other ways people used to get around their auto-censors.

It’s a short step from there to analyzing text in videos, and the subtitles may be separate file uploaded to youtube, which would simplify everything.

Gail Combs

Remember France pulled HCQ from over-the-counter JUST BEFORE the plandemic was ‘announced’ and then threatened the French Doctor, Didier Raoult:
Esteemed French Dr. Didier Raoult Testifies Person Behind Death Threats He Received Is Top Doctor Linked to Gilead Pharmaceuticals

French High Council for Public Health stopped the use of HCQ.

…the World Health Organization and France reacted immediately. WHO stopped a study of the drug and it took French Health Minister Olivier Véran only one day after the publication by The Lancet to ask the French High Council for Public Health (HCSP) to decide whether hydroxychloroquine should continue to be allowed to be prescribed in hospitals to COVID-19 patients. HCSP came back with its answer on May 26: all prescriptions in this context should be stopped, it said.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-strange-astounding-fight-by-world-leading-infectious-disease-doctor-and-others-to-continue-spectacular-results-saving-covid-infected-lives-using-common-cheap-safe-medication/

cthulhu

That was when I knew it was going to be very, very bad.

Grandmaintexas

Polio affected McConnell’s left leg at the age of 2. According to his autobiography, he had access to the same facility that FDR had.

He said he had to spend 2 years without walking, all the while being forced to endure relentless leg exercises. Finally, at age 4 he was pronounced cured and was completely recovered.

I just found his blasted book again. One of the grandkids left it on the floor. I will have to go through the rest of it now. Ugh.

para59r

Obvious what the turtle is trying to do here, but equally obvious that Polio Vaccines and Vaccines to stop a virus in the middle of a pandemic are not at all the same things.

holly

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

holly

TheseTruths

Absolutely! This is why my trust in them is completely broken.

mollypitcher5

Broken ? I’d say blown to smithereens !

Do they still accept that we’re human beings ?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Bezmenov was RIGHT!!! The brainwashing is AMAZING.

para59r

Getting us ready for Transhumanism?

Cuppa Covfefe

I think the greens and the DEMONRATS are aiming for subhumanism… 🙁

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Grandmaintexas

OMG. Wins the Comment Contest for today.

gil00

Ama is a political body. You must know these things to provide proper care, etc. This is crazy.

Cuppa Covfefe

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M isanthropics
A nonymous
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A llowing
M oloch
A ccess
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mollypitcher5
Grandmaintexas

These people are so damned stupid.

mollypitcher5

…and irritating. I’m nosy and want to know about this last picture. I’m assuming that’s the magazine cover

Grandmaintexas

Not sure. That may just be a copyright/ID thing. That looks like a typical section where partygoers are photographed for the gossip column. Very typical.

Cuppa Covfefe

D.C. crook Paid-off-Politico posing with Sum Ting Wong…

evereleutheros

I did some research on him the other day, and I believe that is most likely his wife. Her name is Hsin Yi Wang, aka Victoria Wang.
Can you believe this shit?

para59r

Not knowing the context either. However seeing the tattoo on the guys neck. Is that an early picture? The tattoo may of been in the early stages (then again does he have a tattoo on both sides? This one is the wrong side, but there appears a dark image just beginning on the other side). Yeah this cop guy is off. I think were seeing a lot of hints that cop is not who he is purported to be.

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Aubergine

I believe he does have tats on both sides of his neck.

I can’t believe that would be allowed on a Capitol Hill policeman.

para59r

Seems Wheatiewoo has added to this further up the thread. Definitely him, with tattoos on both side of his neck.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That picture…..

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mollypitcher5

*IF that’s a spiderweb tattoo on his neck (which it looks like it could be) he really went the extra mile to blend in with skinheads or convicts…Odd that a Capitol LEO would need or want that type of tatt

mollypitcher5

evereleutheros

Is his wife, as I posted up above. Hsin-Yi Wang, aka Victoria Wang, aka Hsinyi Fanone. Can’t make this shit up.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Aye-Yi-Yi!”

mollypitcher5

High five to this lady !

Cuppa Covfefe

Charlie Brown would be proud 🙂

GOOD ON HER!!!!!

Aubergine

Show them how fucking ridiculous they are! Good for her!

Grandmaintexas

Guys…what’s this?

https://www.fromrome.info/2021/07/31/who-is-stew-peters/

Just asking. Nothing seems terrible, just wondering how Stew went from bounty hunter in 2019 to what he’s doing now. Does anyone know if he’s addressed this info? I don’t necessarily trust From Rome. They may be a honeypot.

Cuppa Covfefe

There is so much CRUD flying about to discredit MAGA folks and patriots that I don’t trust ANYTHING out there.

As the release of audit results approaches, the increase of misinformation, disinformation, and OUTRIGHT DEMONIC (and DEMONRAT) LIES will be asymptotic. In other words, “to infinity, and beyond” with their lies…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, everything needs side-eye right now.

But I think this discred it tied to him having Karen Kingston on.

I know her type – she’s an honest scientist – trouble for Big Pharma.

She differentiates between her suspicions and her facts, and her facts are going to really send Big Pharma into trouble.

scott467

New Political Moonshine article:

A Beholden and Bad Bill Barr Betrayed the Boss
July 31, 2021

Intro: “A beholden and bad Bill Barr, the former two-term U.S. Attorney General and point man for the Department of Justice who was first appointed by George H.W. Bush and later served as the replacement for a beleaguered and recused Jeff Sessions as the Attorney General of the United States for President Donald J. Trump, betrayed his boss – President Trump.

More recently, we have the capstone piece of evidence that galvanizes and finalizes our position on Barr, which had been controversial and hotly contested in the backdrop of Moonshine; and with some in our group having previously held faith in him.

Barr led us to some infighting but I do all of the work, reading, researching, writing, etc. – literally all of what appears at Moonshine – so that work prevailed resulting in the earlier notions that Barr was somehow situated for good being dispatched forever and for cause.

I also wish those guys had been right because coming down on the right side of the Bill Barr line means coming down on the wrong side of what America needs and needed. Tragic falls short of appropriate, here.

Moving forward, we’re latching on to federalism, compromise, infiltration and prosecutorial discretion as you’ll see and come to understand. All of these will hammer beholden and bad Bill’s nail straight into the board and entirely so.

In a bedrock of long established and exclusive work, we have the evidence to this end and it presents in spades. Collectively, it leaves precisely zero room for alternative explanations on Barr. There’s no doubt about it and the picture is crystalline and presents with unmatched clarity. A beholden and bad Bill Barr betrayed the boss. It starts there and unfortunately, it ended there. At least for now.”

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Bill Barr is a VERY tough call.

ForGodandCountry

I disagree.

Happy to be PROVEN wrong about Bloated Bill. Don’t think I ever will be.

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gil00

Its not just Australia.
He is right.

Avi Yemini 🇦🇺🇮🇱 (@OzraeliAvi) Tweeted:
“A generation ago, we thought it was worth sacrificing millions of lives for the sake of preserving freedoms.

Now we throw away those freedoms for the sake of preserving lives presumably.”

https://t.co/PcsO3VV9Nn

TheseTruths

CodeMonkeyZ https://t.me/s/codemonkeyz

Regarding the Cyber Symposium:

I am of the personal opinion that the PCAPs are highly unlikely to be real. However, if they are proven real, then it will be HUGE. 

I have not seen the pcap data.

For now, I recommend not getting your hopes up with the PCAPs. 

I will address this again in a few days.

CodeMonkeyZ

Regarding the PCAPs:

I know a lot about this that I have not published yet. 

I am waiting until August 2 to discuss this publicly. 

August 2 is the final date that anything can be done about the PCAPs privately.

I don’t know what that last sentence means. I think a lot of people are skeptical about Mike Lindell’s evidence. I know Lindell has hired experts who should know what they’re looking at.

If CodeMonkey doesn’t think the PCAPs are real, maybe he can try to get the reward Lindell is offering.

singingsoul1

Lindell put his company on the line. He is a patriot doing something most people would not. He love this country and it shows. To me he is like the founding Fathers of this country who put everything they had on the line.
I am positive he has something he listen to the experts he hired and the lawyers he hired.
I pray to God that those who advised him are that like those who advised POTUS 45 and stab him in the back.
There are not many people who would give all material possessions for this country to right a wrong.

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singingsoul1

Who is Code Monkey for whom does he work? Does he work for the other site?
I do not trust him. Do not know why but there is something could be me.

TheseTruths

Others here know more, but CodeMonkeyZ is Ron Watkins. He and his father administered the site that Q posted on. I think he is definitely on our side, and he knows a lot about computer tech.

singingsoul1

Thank you 🙂

TheseTruths

YW!

Aubergine

PCAPS are packet capture. Traffic into and out of the U.S., presumably.

I think what CodeMonkey is saying is, if the ARE real, and it just comes out, that is potentially WAR with whatever country is involved.

Hence doing something “privately,” i.e. diplomatically, before the shit hits the fan.

At least, I think that’s what he means. Everyone else’s mileage may vary.

TheseTruths

That might be what he means. I have seen posts by Seth Keshel and someone else (maybe CodeMonkey), and cthulhu here (I think), that to track the PCAPs you have to have access to either the point of origination or destination. Otherwise, if you could see that data, then all privacy on the internet could be compromised. So my understanding — which is no doubt incomplete and could be flawed — is that they’re saying that Lindell’s people have to have access to the ending or beginning point of the data breach. That goes back to what you’re saying, that to reveal a foreign country’s participation in stealing our election would be YUGE. But my impression is that CodeMonkey is casting doubt on Lindell’s having the real PCAPs. That would be disappointing.

Lindell says no one knows all of what he has, and I know the Left is worried. It should be very interesting.

cthulhu

You are correct in thinking that the great majority of data moving over the internet is encrypted. So you’d want to intercept it before it is encrypted or after it is unencrypted.

Aubergine

Yes, it will be interesting.

I think Mike Lindell is VERY smart. I don’t believe he would risk everything he has if he didn’t believe the evidence.

I guess we’ll see. I think CodeMonkey is hedging his bets.

Grandmaintexas

Watkins often stirs the pot. And he’s been both right and wrong numerous times.

RF121

ForGodandCountry

Disgusting.

She is now dust off my sandals. Glad she has outted herself, tho.

Another fake con that has to GTFO.
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ROBERT BAKER

QUESTION: For FG&C

If you knew what the governor was going to say before she sent this tweet what advice would you have given her other than do not send it? What should have been her message to the citizens of South Dakota?

TheseTruths

Just speaking for myself, I would like to see challenges to employers’ “rights” to force vaccines on their employees. They are violating people’s human rights. I also believe it is unconstitutional. Noem didn’t say a word about that. It was just “get another job.”

ROBERT BAKER

Her statement did seem to be the politician’s favorite “not my responsibility” maneuver. It would be a novel approach in these times for the government to represent the interests of the citizens.

ForGodandCountry

It should be very easy for people like Noem to use their highly visible positions to deliver WITHERING sarcasm and mocking to the “experts” forcing this politically weaponized bio-terrorism upon We, the People.

If I were a Governor, I’d have these people on my communications team and writing speeches for me…

gil00

Shes getting manipulated and bad advice.She pretty much has lost focus and isnt going to win over people nationally at this point.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/24/kristi-noems-advisors-include-corporate-interests-who-pushed-veto-on-transgender-sports-bill/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly.

In fact, at this stage, Governor Wolf Moon would make an emergency declaration that the vaccines are potentially a danger of creating immune enhancement, and would FORBID all mandates within the border of the state IMMEDIATELY. If that bothered anybody, BANNING THE VACCINES would be waved around as the alternative.

Aubergine

Agreed!

I gave up in Noem quite a while back.

Corporate whore.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

She could easily be a hard-ass bitch for the People and give the companies cover by threats that would make them drop mandates in the state. Three-way win. Why is she not doing that reflexively? I suspect her entourage is infested with RINOs now.

I do think she likes business, but she needs to be more of a flat out TOUGH/tender BITCH to them, because the left found out how to get her – through corporations. She needs to cut companies breaks where they count, but make their social engineering BURN IN HELL.

WAIT – don’t they have a huge CocaCola operation there? AYE-YI-YI. That’s it. The wokies from Coke must be wheedling her butt-boys HARD.

ForGodandCountry

It’s REEEEEALLY f’n simple…

NOBODY GETS TO “MANDATE” AN EXPERIMENTAL VAX THAT DOESN’T WORK FOR A VIRUS WITH A 99.8% SURVIVAL RATE.

Corporate HR departments DO NOT get to induce economic coercion upon workers.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN.

kalbokalbs

Fair to assume union(s) representing pilots are fighting injection mandates?

Saw Delta CEO saying new employees would be required to get injected. That is a pretty broad policy considering the spectrum of talent airlines maintain.

ForGodandCountry

No. ALPA is thoroughly corrupt and run by democrats who sell out to the corporate suits.

That said, how this is all playing out and will be played out in my neck of the woods will be very VERY interesting to watch.

Aubergine

Makes sense.

kalbokalbs

Yup. I held out, but this is one too many.

Hell, DeSantis has provided the template for guvs looking to protect individual Rights from all levels of government over reach.

Aubergine

No kidding! “Do It Like DeSantis” should be the Republican motto.

ForGodandCountry

I would tell her to resign and step down…that her soul is worth far more than what she is selling it for.

See:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/31/gov-kristi-noem-says-if-you-dont-like-vaccination-mandates-just-quit-your-job/

ROBERT BAKER

Well I think it can be assumed that she wants to be President. According to the political playbook the Chamber of Commerce is her ticket. It is an unfortunate truth that the pursuit of power is usually paid for with one’s integrity.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Chamber of Chinese Commerce is a BAD MOVE right now.

She’s got RINOs in her circle of advisers, and she needs to BOOT ‘EM fast.

ROBERT BAKER

This is a harsh assessment but this is how I would catalog a group of politicians.

If you have 100 politicians in a room 90 of them will already have committed criminal acts while in office. Of the 10 remaining 5 of them, before their career is over, will have joined the 90 criminals.

So Steve I believe there are 5 of every 100 actual politicians who represent the citizens who voted for them. From a probability perspective that means you have 2 standard deviations before you find an honest politician.

ROBERT BAKER

I label myself an optimistic realist.

ROBERT BAKER

Perhaps you are a rational realist and are not prone to leaps of faith like I am.

ForGodandCountry

Yep. And THAT right there is exactly why she has to be thrown out of office.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly! Why isn’t she offering to cover medical insurance for anybody who gets forced out by a vaccine mandate? Woke companies will lose half their workforces. They’ll drop the mandates QUICKLY.

She don’t play chicken well.

ForGodandCountry

That’s because she’s not trying to play chicken. She is a corporate whore who is doing what her corporate masters are telling her to do.

Barb Meier

I do not think suggesting finding a different job is a bad idea. It is something I consider whenever a position no longer makes me comfortable for some reason. I understand that some people feel locked into a particular sector that is more likely to require vaccines or masks, but I am trying to consider different things like doing research or analysis or finding ways to improve local news in small towns that have either lost their newspapers or rely on news from larger towns farther away. There are many more options for remote jobs than there were 15 or 20 years ago and one never knows what opportunities might turn out to be real gems.

Gail Combs

I do not think suggesting finding a different job is a bad idea. 

It is when ALL the corporations require the same vaccine mandate and that is where we are heading FAST!

Remember the Financiers aka Banksters aka Devos CONTROL most of the corporations using your mutual fund and pension funds.

SEE: The Network of Global Corporate Control

Grandmaintexas

She’s in the mold of Gov. Abbott. 🤨

mollypitcher5

TheseTruths

Oh, come on! Is it a pandemic or not? Is it dangerous or not?

I didn’t think I would be interested in the Olympics because of basketball, soccer, and other athletes dissing our country. But I have been interested in the pursuit of excellence that has not been political in a number of sports (not basketball, and not soccer). But in swimming, for example, when the athletes finish a race and are still in the pool, they hug each other and exchange words. It is similar in other sports. In gymnastics, Simone Biles and three other gymnasts were in the stands watching teammates compete. Biles removed her mask to cheer on her teammate. Athletes remove their masks to take photos. I don’t blame them for any of this; it’s just the mind-bending inconsistency between what we’re being told and what really happens. *They* think we’re stupid, and we are if we comply and fail to call them out.

mollypitcher5

It’s beginning to look like if we don’t take matters into our own hands, even with marches…something…”they” don;t give a flying flip about us merely calling them out.

ForGodandCountry

Interesting tweet.

Rand Paul is not the type to simply stir the pot for no reason.

Hmmmm.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It is interesting.

ForGodandCountry

From a timing perspective, given our expectation that the AZ audit information should be coming quite soon, it actually is very interesting.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Let’s start calling it the “Durham variant”, even more transmissible than the “Audit Variant”!

ForGodandCountry

You know we’ve crossed over into a new dimension when satire is actual, real news….

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Deplorable Patriot

That was my thought, actually.

mollypitcher5

They can’t help themselves, always so proud of their handiwork (probably need to enlarge to read)

https://twitter.com/MAGAMedium1_7/status/1421610097512521731

TheseTruths

This looks awfully suspicious:

“Claire, you have a flair for drama, delivering just the margin needed at 3 am. I bet you had those votes counted at midnight, and just wanted to keep the world waiting!”

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think that is how it’s supposed to work.

mollypitcher5

Those numbers.. omg

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Democrats create problems on purpose.

Linda
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA! I love it!

wheatietoo

Found this on Gab.

This guy was a congressional staffer…?

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is getting good. I think he’s a PHONY run by MAFIA NAN.

Aubergine

That page link above? It’s been REMOVED.

This guy is a RINGER. FAKE. PLANT.

They covered those tattoos on Jan. 6. I’d bet good money on that. Infiltrator.

mollypitcher5

Who is Michael Fanone’s wife?According to reports, Fanone was previously married to Hsin-Yi Wang, also known as Victoria Wang. She reportedly used to work as an executive assistant in DC. It has been said the pair exchanged the vows on June 5, 2010, in DC, after meeting each other at a bar. The marriage proposal came from Fanone’s side while they were having a meal at the Park Cafe in Capitol Hill. It is not known when they got separated. However, the two share two daughters together — Piper Fanone and Seraphina Ming Fanone.

https://meaww.com/michael-fanone-wife-hsin-yi-wang-dc-cop-injured-in-capitol-riot-blasts-gop-andrew-clyde

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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I’d like to remind people that this is the END OF THE MONTH.

Donations to TRUMP and SAVE AMERICA, at the following link, are the way to go, per Trump himself, unless you want to donate DIRECTLY to a TRUMP-ENDORSED candidate.

Fifteen minutes left in the Eastern time zone!

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

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