2021·08·14 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

His Fraudulency

Joe Biteme, properly styled His Fraudulency, continues to infest the White House, and hopium is still being dispensed even as our military appears to have joined the political establishment in knuckling under to the fraud.

All realistic hope lies in the audits, and perhaps the Lindell lawsuit (that will depend on how honestly the system responds to the suit).

One can hope that all is not as it seems.

I’d love to feast on that crow.

The Lindell Reports

It sounds worse that most of us imagined. And we have good evidence (if placed before a judge who understands probability, combinatorics, and statistics (three closely-connected branches of mathematics).

The question is, now that we have this, what’s next?

Can we get more states to do forensic audits? It will be tougher in states where the auditors themselves ended up in their positions of authority through cheating!

Even if not, it’s good to go into whatever comes next with the certitude that we were and are right about…

Joe Biden Didn’t Win. And neither did Hoe, and neither did half the craptastic Dems out there. RINOs might have won the general because at that point voters had a choice between a definite Dem and a maybe-not-as-bad “Republican.” But how many got in due to a corrupted primary?

We have to do our best to force this to stick and force “them” to pay attention to it!

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1763.90
Silver $24.48
Platinum $985.00
Palladium $2712.00
Rhodium $21,150.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $1780.60
Silver $23.83
Platinum $1034
Palladium $2736
Rhodium $20,200

This might be a good time to buy silver. On the other hand it could drop even m0re.

Electrons Get Quanta

If you’ll recall, last time I mentioned that in 1911 van den Broek suggested that an atom’s place in the periodic table depended on the positive charge of the nucleus; when that charge was expressed as a positive-signed multiple of e, you had a simple integer number which is that atom’s atomic number. I then said it was merely an idea for about two years, and then I left you hanging.

I’m going to pick up that thread, but I’m going to do it my way: I’m going to back up a bit and follow another thread to that same place.

As of 1900, chemists were pretty sure they were missing eight elements on the periodic table. Because they didn’t know how many lanthanides (“rare earths”) actually existed (some guesses ran as high as 25) and simply had no idea what was going on there, they didn’t know how many they were missing. (We now know that lanthanum through lutetium is fifteen elements inclusive; chemists back then knew twelve in that range, and suspected there were more.)

Remember in 1900 they didn’t know about atomic number. They did have the periodic table, and it had holes in it that were clearly missing elements, but the lanthanides didn’t seem to fit into that scheme at all so they were a big question mark.

In 1901, europium–a lanthanide whose atomic weight was between samarium and gadolinium–was discovered, and then in 1902-03 actinium was discovered during investigations of the radioactive decay chains. (From the radioactive decay series, astatine, francium and protactinium were not known yet as of 1911, but the first two were “known” holes in the table, below iodine and cesium, and protactinium was probably suspected–it’s hard to tell because back then chemists didn’t realize the actinides were like the lanthanides. My extensive discussion last week was based largely on current knowledge.)

1906 saw the discovery of lutetium, at the time the heaviest of the rare earths.

So in 1911, van den Broek came up with the concept of the atomic number. And the periodic table was pretty “tidy” right up through barium, but after barium were the lanthanides. So I believe they were able to assign every element up to barium atomic numbers, with barium at Z=56. There was a gap at Z=43. Then with an unknown number of lanthanides, it would be impossible to assign an actual number to the first known element after the lanthanides, tantalum, but we knew what group tantalum was in, so we could basically restart counting from there, identifying more holes. Two spaces to the right, under that hole for Z=43, was another hole. Then a hole under iodine and a hole under cesium, as previously mentioned.

Protactinium was discovered in 1913, so we may not have realized it at the time but everything from radium (directly below barium) on up was known.

In 1913 the picture became a lot clearer. Henry Moseley (a student of Rutherford’s), in 1913 was doing x-ray spectroscopy on a variety of elements and measuring the wavelengths. He noticed a fairly simple mathematical relationship between the atomic number (where known) and at least one of the x-ray wavelengths. From this he formulated Moseley’s law. (I’d quote the law here, but although the formula is simple, explaining what the symbols meant would be a royal pain.)

So now the guesswork was gone. Moseley could zap even a rare earth metal with his x ray device, and calculate its atomic number. Lanthanum was 57. Lutetium was Z=71. We had, without realizing it, already nearly completed the list in between: Cerium (58), praseodymium (59), neodymium (60), samarium (62), europium (63), gadolinium (64), terbium (65), dysprosium (66), holmium (67), erbium (68), thulium (69), ytterbium (70), and lutetium (71). Only #61 was missing. {Yes I am enough of a geek to known those by heart.)

So now that numbers could be assigned to every element and not just the first 56, we knew we were missing #43 (right below manganese), #61 (a rare earth), #72, #75 (below #43), #85 and #87. Uranium came in at #92 and was the last element.

Moseley’s law was consistent with the Bohr model of the atom, which was put forward that year (just two years after the Rutherford model).

And the Bohr model is our main topic today, but I will finish Moseley’s story first. Sadly, it won’t take long.

It sure looked like Moseley was destined for bigger and better things, and he had certainly earned himself a Nobel Prize for putting the atomic number on a solid footing. But World War I broke out the next year and Moseley volunteered. He was sent to Gallipoli in modern day Turkey and was killed on August 10, 1915. The Nobel Prize committee gave no award for physics in 1916. We can only speculate, but it seems as if they intended to give that award to Moseley but as they do not give posthumous awards, had to change their plans.

Henry Moseley, 1887-1915, holding an x ray tube.

The Bohr model of the atom is actually considered a modification of the prior Rutherford model, which was unsatisfactory for a number of reasons. So it’s technically the “Bohr-Rutherford” model, but most just call it the Bohr model, after the Danish physicist Neils Bohr (1885-1962).

Why was the Rutherford model unsatisfactory? Chief among the issues was that if it were accurate, no atom would last more than about ten billionths of a second. Since I am writing this, and you will soon be reading this, and you and I are both made up of atoms that haven’t collapsed yet, there’s clearly a disconnect.

The Rutherford model supposed that the negatively charged, light electrons orbited the much more massive and very tiny positively charged nucleus. It didn’t discuss orbital periods of the electrons, or anything like that, so it wasn’t very specific. But that wasn’t the big issue.

The problem is that any electric charge that is being accelerated will emit electromagnetic energy. And electrons in orbit about a nucleus are constantly being accelerated. Remember that an object in motion will continue moving at that speed and direction unless acted on by an outside force (this goes back to part 1). An outside force, of course, will cause an acceleration. Since the electrons are following a curved path, they are being accelerated.

Calculations at the time based on Maxwell’s equations showed that it would take about ten billionths of a second for an orbiting electron to radiate away all of its kinetic energy, causing it to spiral in and plow into the nucleus.

How to solve this problem?

Well, there was a sketchy tool in the physicist’s tool kit that essentially functioned by forbidding certain values of energy, or momentum. If this tool could be applied here, then an electron in an orbit would be unable to drop downward, unless it took a big step downward all at once. And there’d be a minimum orbital energy it could not drop below.

That tool was quantum theory. It’s not the same quantum theory that we have today. As I hinted, it basically functioned as an overlay on classical physics, forbidding certain values of some parameters. It had been used by Max Planck to explain the black body spectrum in 1900, and it had been invoked by Albert Einstein to explain the photoelectric effect in 1905 (for which he eventually won the Nobel prize–for this, not for relativity!).

Energy came in fixed quanta, and these quanta’s sizes were always related somehow to Planck’s constant, which is:

h = 6.62607015×10−34 J⋅Hz−1

Or equivalently (since a hertz is a “per second”):

h = 6.62607015×10−34 J⋅s

This turns out to have the same dimensions as angular momentum. A joule is a kg⋅m2/s2, or as a dimension rather than units, m⋅d2/t2. Multiply that by time to match Planck’s constant and it’s m⋅d2/t. Angular momentum is speed, times mass, times the distance from the central point around which angular momentum is being measured, or (d/t⋅m⋅d) which is also m⋅d2/t.

However h is defined in terms of full revolutions, and angular momentum operates in radians, so we really need h/2π, a number that turns up so often, it has it’s own symbol, ħ, pronounced “H-bar” and often known as the “reduced Planck constant.” It’s equal to 1.054571817…×10−34 J⋅s. Or, since we are talking about atoms here, the preferred units are in terms of electron volts, so the reduced Planck constant is 6.582119569…×10−16 eV⋅s

So if the angular momentum of electrons in an atom were restricted to multiples of ħ, it could keep the main descriptive feature of the Rutherford model (electrons orbiting about the nucleus) while solving the problem of having them spiral into the nucleus, radiating energy all the while. The lowest possible orbit would be the one where the angular momentum was equal to ħ, the next one up (higher energy), 2ħ, and so on.

Well, it’s a fine idea, but does it actually make things look the way they really are?

Let’s work with hydrogen. One electron, one proton. No other electrons to cause complications because they repel the first electron.

Assuming a circular orbit (so that the requisite cross product becomes equal to multiplying distance by velocity), the angular momentum of the electron is going to equal its mass, times its velocity in orbit, times its distance from the nucleus:

mevr = nħ

The n is the integer multiplier and is now known as the principal quantum number.

Well, we know one of these, the mass. But we can actually express the velocity needed to maintain a circular orbit, in terms of distance and the attractive force between the proton and the electron (which we know), so that gets us down to one unknown. And we can eventually work our way down to figuring that when n is 1, the orbital radius is 0.0529 nanometers (billionths of a meter) for a hydrogen atom (one electron orbiting one proton).

OK, so by analogy with orbital mechanics, the lowest energy orbit is indeed this n = 1 orbit. What could make the electron move out of that orbit?

The hydrogen atom could actually hit another hydrogen atom, transferring kinetic energy to the electron, enough that it could jump to n=2. Thus a hot hydrogen gas, where the kinetic energy of the atoms is higher, could result in electrons being “jumped up” to higher orbits. So, basically, heat can do it.

Or the electron could absorb a photon with enough energy to make the jump.

And if in a higher orbit, how could an electron drop? It could do so by emitting a photon. But it would be a photon that contains precisely the energy difference between the two orbits! .

The Bohr model, showing an electron dropping from n=3 to n=2, and emitting a photon to get rid of the energy difference.

Remember that E = h ν for light (that last letter being Greek “nu” not a “vee”). So if we know the energy difference, we should be able to figure out the frequency, ν of the photon, then get to its wavelength in nanometers. For wavelengths between 400 and 770 nanometers, the photon will be visible to our eyes and will have a certain exact color.

The lowest orbit has the minimum energy. Just like with astrodynamic orbits, the energy is set to zero at a distance of infinity, and becomes more and more negative the closer the orbit gets to the nucleus, so the energy of the minimum orbit (n=1) is -13.6 eV. The second orbit (n=2) is at -3.4 eV, the third (n=3) is -1.51 eV, and so on, approaching but never equaling zero. So an electron in the third orbit can shed a photon and drop all the way down from -1.51 eV to -13.6 eV, a difference of 12.1 eV. This corresponds to a wavelength of 102.57 nm. That’s an ultraviolet wavelength.

But how about dropping from n=3 to n=2? That difference is about 1.9 eV. And that corresponds to a wavelength of 656.3 nm, which is visible light.

That number no doubt leaped out at someone. And when they computed the numbers for jumping from n=4 to n=2, then n=5 to n=2, and so on, those numbers looked familiar, too.

They were the wavelengths of light in the hydrogen emission spectrum. This is known as the Balmer series, all the lines you get from dropping from some higher n down to 2.

The series of lines corresponding to dropping down to n=1 is called the Lyman series, and as previously indicated, they’re all ultraviolet.

So now we have an explanation of the hydrogen emission spectrum.

Maybe there was something “real” behind this quantum buggery!

The Bohr atom model stopped here. It explained hydrogen very well, but it couldn’t, by itself, cope with more than one electron. However its underlying principles do hold for other cases.

What Moseley had done was identify, via his X ray work, the transition down to n=1, which in heavier atoms is in the x-ray band. This gets progressively more energetic as the charge in the nucleus increases, such that one can actually tell what the nuclear charge is from the x ray wavelength. So this, too, validated the Bohr model in principle, at least insofar as the Bohr model assumes quantum effects are in play.

I’m going to carry this story through (in a grossly oversimplified way) to the present day, except I won’t delve too deeply into the quantum mechanical aspects of it–quantum theory turns out to be seriously weird but this wouldn’t begin to become apparent until about 1925. So far (as of the 1910s), this bowdlerized version where it just arbitrarily restricts what can happen in an otherwise classical physics realm was working pretty well (this is now called “old quantum theory”).

The n=1, n=2, n=3 and so on principal quantum numbers were named electron shells. It became apparent as time went on, though, that each of these shells contained subshells, according to a simple rule: The 1st shell consisted of one subshell, the second shell had two subshells, and so on. The subshells got labeled s, p, d, and f. This arose from quantum mechanical considerations.

Each subshell can only hold a certain number of electrons. An s subshell could hold 2 electrons, a p subshell 6 electrons, a d subshell 10 electrons, and an f subshell 14 electrons. We’ve never dealt with a fifth subshell, but it would probably be labeled g, with 18 electrons. Each goes up four electrons. This, too, arose from quantum mechanical considerations.

The subshells are in turn divided into orbitals holding 2 electrons each, but I won’t tread there. (And again, quantum mechanical considerations).

So, the following subshells exist: 1s, 2s, 2p, 3s, 3p, 3d, 4s, 4p, 4d, 4f, and so on.

Electrons are added to the lowest energy shell that isn’t already full. That’s whether you’re creating an ion by adding extra electrons, or just trying to get a large atom up to its normal complement.

Let’s take oxygen as an example. It has eight protons in its nucleus, it will want eight electrons in its shells.

So the first two electrons go into the 1s subshell. Then the 2s subshell gets the next two electrons. Finally, the four remaining electrons go into the 2p subshell, which could accept another two electrons if they were available.

Now let us consider iron, Z=26. The first eight electrons go like oxygen’s. The next two fill up the remainder of the 2p subshell, after which we move on to the 3s subshell, which takes two more electrons (12 so far). 3p takes up another six electrons (18 so far). You might expect that now we will move to the 3d subshell…but that turns out to be wrong. The 3d subshell’s energy is actually slightly higher than the 4s subshell, so we will fill the 4s before the 3d. Electrons 19 and 20 go into the 4s subshell, then the last six electrons do go into the 3d subshell. If we were to continue, the next subshell to fill would be the 4p subshell.

On the left, the principal quantum number. On the right, the branches indicate the energy of each subshell. Electrons fill in the subshells from bottom to top, so 1s (2 electrons) fills first, then 2s (2 more), then 2p (6 more), then 3s and 3p (another 8), but then 4s fills before 3d. The last element known in 1913 (uranium) get partway into the 5f subshell. Today, we’ve filled up not just 5f, but 6d and 7p, completely, all the way through Z=118. No 8s elements have been generated.

So we’re seeing at the end a sequence where we fill a 2 electron s subshell, a 10 electron d one, then a six electron p one. If we were to carry on to lead (Z=82), we’d encounter our first f subshell, 4f, right after the 6s subshell but before the 5d subshell; lead takes us into the 6p subshell.

If it’s difficult to see (or remember) a pattern to which subshells overlap in energy with parts of other shells, you can write them out in a triangle like this, all nicely ordered, then use diagonal lines from top right down to bottom left to read them off in the order they fill. This is called the “aufbau principle.”

Based on this the next two elements (Z=119 and 120) will be 8s subshell, then there will be a 5g subshell (the first g subhsell) with space for 18 electrons.

The numbers 2, 6, 10, and 14 might be tickling your brain trying to be noticed. If not, perhaps their successive sums will: 2, 8 (2+6), 18 (2+6+10) and 32 (2+6+10+14).

These are the lengths of the rows on the periodic table. In fact, if you look at the table, the left hand side is a “tower” two elements wide–corresponding to the s subshell. The left side is a block six elements wide–corresponding to the p subshell. The central skinny part is ten elements wide, and corresponds to the d subshell. Looking at the two rows that are “footnoted” below the main body of the table, those are usually depicted as 15 units wide, but they are supposed to tuck into a square in the third column, so one of those 15 squares really belongs to the d block. The other 14 are the f subshell. (By the way, chemists argue over whether the first or last of the fifteen is the one in the d-block; they seem to have recently decided to go with the last one of the fifteen.)

The periodic table, with the f block brought into the main diagram rather than relegated to footnotes. The second element in the 1s subshell is helium, which chemically behaves like the other elements with a finished p subshell, so it’s generally moved over from the upper left to the upper right (hence the one red square out of place).

This diagram shows the exact number of elements known today 118, 26 of them after uranium (Z=92) the highest known in 1913.

So the very shape of the periodic table reflects the shells and subshells, which in turn derive from quantum principles.

The periodic table is on a firm footing now. Atomic number is on a secure footing, We now even understand those elements whose atomic weights aren’t close to integers. We just don’t know why they aren’t exact integers yet.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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Marica

Great Post Steve!!

In case you didn’t know..I’m in your bunker!! And I got your back..Serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We’ve been thru so much….Life!!
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wheatietoo

Hi Marica!
*waves*  👋  😍 

Love that pic!
It’s always good to see ya. 😊 

Gudthots

On our Team!
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Ozzytrumpster

Bwahahahah

wheatietoo

Haaaa. Red shirts!

Ozzytrumpster

Yep. If you had a red shirt in Star Trek you were not going to make it through the episode

cthulhu

Unless, of course, you were Scotty.

cthulhu

Similar minds tend to lie in adjacent gutters….

cthulhu

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Valerie Curren

Expendable Crewmen assemble

cthulhu

Heh. I think I might have just done an article rating (as a Guest).

Learn something new every day…..accurate or not….

TheseTruths

Do you mean liking the article? I keep forgetting about that option. I just liked it, and I don’t see a Guest. Maybe Guest likes don’t show?

cthulhu

It went from five blank stars to five gold ones.

I suppose I could RTFM…….no, wait! There isn’t one.

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TheseTruths

Well, I’m learning something new. I just found the gold stars under “Article Rating,” and there are five. But there are four avatars of people who liked the article above that, under “Like This,” at the end of the article. Go figure.

Wolf Moon

I added the 4th.

Wolf Moon

If you clicked it and it went from blank to gold, your vote was the first, I’m almost certain.

wheatietoo

Thank you, Steve, for another most cromulent Saturday thread!
 😁  👍 

Yes…𝐉𝐨𝐞 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐝𝐢𝐝𝐧’𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐧.

cthulhu

Oooh….

5 gold stars — “Perfectly cromulent.”
4 gold stars — ???
3 gold stars — ???
2 gold stars — ???
1 gold star — “At least it’s better than CNN, Vox, or MSLSD.”
0 gold stars — “Utter crap.”

cthulhu

5 gold stars — “Perfectly cromulent.”
4 gold stars — “Qtree level.”
3 gold stars — “Worth spreading.”
2 gold stars — “As fine as most conservative bloggers.”
1 gold star — “At least it’s better than CNN, Vox, or MSLSD.”
0 gold stars — “Utter crap.”

Barb Meier

No, no, no… I respectfully disagree on 0 gold stars. What it actually means is “Can’t wait to dive in to the post, don’t distract me with clickies”.

Wolf Moon

I just did an update on the post about Belfer Center, Jenna Griswold, and Arapahoe County.

I really want to thank marymorse – this is one of the biggest breaks yet in the fight against FAKE ELECTIONS.

https://www.theqtree.com/2021/08/13/the-belfer-gang-how-the-election-thieves-cased-our-state-election-offices/

Gudthots

It’s amazing how far we’ve come in building our understanding of the STEAL of our nation.
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Wolf Moon

Yup. We have a lot of catching up to do.

Wolf Moon

Ah – the days of the Bohr model! 😎

Very enjoyable – and already in the sidebar now!

pgroup2

Hi, and bye. Off to bed for me.

TY all for your prayers.

Wolf Moon

Go Team Pgroup2!!! YW!!!

Sylvia Avery

(((pgroup))) Really good to see you!
❤ ❤ ❤

cthulhu

Bacon, bacon, and more bacon!!!!!!

bflyjesusgrl

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Gail Combs

DROOOooool
I am stuck with pork salted with KCl (not Na sodium) salt for breakfast. 😫

bflyjesusgrl

I found these at Costco for $15 (best price). They’re good, all natural, no sugar, kinda SALTY. Still searching for sugar free jerky.
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Gail Combs

You just have to read carefully and pick the one with the lowest amount of sugar.

Interesting that NaCl salt and sugar are used as PRESERVATIVES….

Jacklinks DOES have a ZERO sugar beef jerky BTW.
https://www.jacklinks.com/shop/zero-sugar-original-beef-jerky

available at Cabela’s

bflyjesusgrl

I’ve seen Jacklinks….SOY SAUCE 😝☹
Still searching. TYSM! I love that we can share and help one another find healthy options!! 🤗😘🥰💖

Gail Combs

.SOY SAUCE…

I buy the low salt and then add a lot of KCL — brand name NoSalt. I add enough so there is a layer on the bottom even when I shake it. I also dilute it 50/50 with a white wine.

That lets me make my stir fries with soy sauce without over loading on NaCl salt.

That came from a discussion at Chiefio’s and looking at the sodium to potassium ratio we should be eating.

Caffeine will make some excrete potassium BTW.
https://healthfully.com/502318-does-excessive-caffeine-cause-potassium-depletion.html

This is ONLY for those who have trouble retaining potassium like me. I get migraines and leg cramps from too little potassium and too much Caffeine.

Too much potassium can be very dangerous.

A certain amount of potassium is required by all cells, but too much can be harmful and even fatal.

** In healthy people, a potassium overdose rarely occurs unless a large number of potassium supplements are consumed, either intentionally or by accident. But in people with other reasons for an elevated potassium — such as certain medical disorders or medications — even usual dietary intake of potassium may act as an overdose and lead to high potassium levels….

https://healthfully.com/symptoms-of-potassium-overdose-3443110.html

bflyjesusgrl

Same here. I drink Propel to help with cramps. Then I found Trace Minerals ENDURE drops. Just add to your drink and you’re good to go. A little goes a long way.

Magnesium (from ITM)45 mg 11%
Chloride (from ITM)375 mg 16%
Sodium (Seawater)100 mg 4%
Potassium (Pot. Chloride)150 mg 3%
Sulfate (from ITM)20 mg *

https://www.swansonvitamins.com/trace-minerals-endure-performance-electrolyte-4-fl-oz-liquid

bflyjesusgrl

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bflyjesusgrl

Yes, sadly, Just a few.

  :wpds_cry:   :wpds_cry:   :wpds_cry: 
  :wpds_razz:   :wpds_evil:    :wpds_question:   :wpds_mad:   :wpds_envy:   :wpds_sad: 

trumpismine

I remember you were the first to reply to a comment I made many years ago. You made me realize this place was going to be fun!
Think of you often pgroup2

Concerned Virginian

pgroup2
So good to hear from you!
Have a good night’s sleep.

zorrorides

Periodic Table. Every picture tells a story. Whist a ‘Z’ onto its stomach and use it for a shower curtain. Better lectures by far than what I had in college! Thanks Steve.

cthulhu

One of the amazing subtexts through several of Steve’s articles is how the Periodic Table summarized new discoveries and drove new ones, over decades. It didn’t even make sense at first, except that it seemed to work. It is only in this installment where we see how elegantly it brings together protons, electron orbitals, chemistry, spectroscopy, and the physics of transmutation…..most of which were not even concepts when it was first sketched-out.

zorrorides

YES !!

Wolf Moon

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Valerie Curren

Steve I still have Major Catch-Up reading to do on a Bunch of your posts. I am quite deficient in the Physics Gene so very much appreciate your well thought out, expressed, & illustrated tutorials. After my daughter’s wedding (technically later today) I hope to get “back on track” whatever that might mean, after some R & R.

You do such great work here–thank you & God Bless (no offence) you & Darwin too.  🤔 

Gudthots

Wedding Blessings Valerie!

Valerie Curren

Thanks so much GT 🙂 God Bless you too!

Grandmaintexas

God bless your daughter and may her marriage be blessed beyond measure!

Valerie Curren

Thank you so much G-Ma! Blessings to you too 🙂

Gudthots

If you are interested in adding your voice to the petition highlighted by Wendy Rogers, here’s the link.

https://action.wendyrogers.org/decertify/

President Trump knows I am fighting hard for election integrity, which is why he quoted me twice in the same week.
If you agree with me and President Trump that we must recall our electors and decertify the 2020 election, add your name and let’s get this done!

SIGN THE PETITION TO DECERTIFY THE ELECTION:

(looks a lot like a fundraising form, but I’ve not filled it in yet)

Barb Meier

These days that petition list would be a handy “round ’em up” list for certain FIB…

Barb Meier

So I agree with the point of the petition but think being scattered around the web makes certain people’s job to hurt others more difficult.

Gudthots

God bless, protect and grant success to this fearless man!

Dr. Zelenko explains the kill shot (not safe, not effective, not necessary) and then gives these leaders a severe warning about their own decision to either fight evil or bow down to it.

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Gingersmom2009

And he’s a year past his second cancer surgery. 👍🏻

Gail Combs

God is not done with him on this earth. May he have many more happy pain free and PRODUCTIVE years. He is a REAL HERO.

singingsoul1

Thank you for posting Dr Zelenko. He truly is a hero of our time and for humanity.

cthulhu

Test.

Gail Combs

You passed and thanks for the video. It is great.

Gail Combs

John_Doe gives a synopsis

4:30 [min] accute – first three months 

Blood clots  Most occurs in first 3-4 days

  myocarditis in young adults

Pregnant women who get the shot in the first trimester, rate of miscarriage goes from 10 to 80%,  8 times has high

Subacute 

Animal studies show antibody dependent enhancement risk.  Human issues have not been ruled out

Long term issues are 

fertility – sperm count and ovarian function

definitely increases instances of auto-immune 

Cancer causing

10:15 – Immunity from having Covid is a billion times better than vaccines.

15:00 – world experts are saying giving the vaccine to 7 billion worldwide would contribute to 2 billion deaths

Dr Malone inventor of mRNA says do not use this – side effects are horrific

19:28 – Vars data  11,000 deaths, 450,000 adverse effects.  Severely under reported.  system is rejecting death reports filed by doctors.  previously reported side effects are being scrubbed.

Fochi paid for the 20 years gain of function

22:50 – This is a genocide.

25:15 – Trump gave executive order that hydroxychoriquin would be available to everybody CDC stopped availability of hydroxychoriquin except to hospitalized 

Deplorable Patriot

15:00 – world experts are saying giving the vaccine to 7 billion worldwide would contribute to 2 billion deaths

1105
Apr 09, 2018 1:12:03 PM EDT

Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: 28003e No. 967390 
CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS ARE VERY EFFECTIVE.
2 BILLION PEOPLE.
GLOBAL.
SCALE.
REGULATION OR KILL?
PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO DECIDE.
Q

para59r

In current context that’s a wow.

Deplorable Patriot

Yep.

Gail Combs

Especially in light of lawyers and doctors putting together Nuremburg 2.0!

RAC

That seemed related to this, but it doesn’t get me anywhere.
Any idea what it was ?

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/967079.html#967390

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bflyjesusgrl

Went back, looked at surrounding drops. This was in reference to FB, IG, GOOG, and TW spying on us.
Works for poisoned jabs too.

4953 posts (qposts.online)

Wolfie FYI….A couple of the 17 links on the sidebar go NOWHERE.

RAC

TY, those Q links went straight to the right place at one time, can’t make sense of it now.

singingsoul1

CDC the agency paid by us to serve us stopped medicine proven to heal us of covid. They approved only once it is to late and the sickness has invaded the body the hydro could be used.
They wanted it to fail and sacrificed God’s people.
The CDC are satanists. If there are still Christians working for them where are they to tell the story ?

Emeraldstar

The CDC is an NGO.

A “Non-Governmental Organization”.

They aren’t “paid” directly by the taxpayers, but rather they are “contracted” by the Gov’t – outsourced, that is.

It’s a shell-game of responsibility, so that neither may be wholly culpable.

Remember the scene in Godfather 2 – the senate hearing?

“Buffers! – Yeah – we got a lotta buffers!” (paraphrase, from memory).

Here’s the clip –

singingsoul1

I did not know that
So they should not tell us what to do !

Gail Combs

Actually there is a CDC and a CDC FOUNDATION I got fooled by thinking they are the same.

HOWEVER

TOGETHER OUR IMPACT IS GREATER

The CDC Foundation is an independent nonprofit and the sole entity created by Congress to mobilize philanthropic and private-sector resources to support the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s critical health protection work.

We are a catalyst for unleashing the power of collaboration between CDC and philanthropies, private entities and individuals to protect the health, safety and security of America and the world.

https://www.cdcfoundation.org/our-story

singingsoul1

Oh thank you. That seems to be the problem the private entities working with the government. Looks the money people like Gates took over.

Dora

Gail Combs

Yeah,
Fall back position is LEAK not INTENTIONAL RELEASE.

TradeBait2

Spot on. We know differently.

para59r

Cabal to WHO: Get this fixed, make them cop to an accident.
WHO to CCP: There getting to close to the truth. Just say it’s an accident.
CCP: No!
WHO: Pretty please.
CCP: No!
still many months later
WHO: Come on man!
CCP: No
WHO to Cabal: They won’t budge.
Cabal: Weather Event.
CCP: Okay
Now this story.

bflyjesusgrl

Raheem’s story points to a Daily Mail article that says lab worker was infected by Bat. They’re now admitting it came from the Lab, but still sticking to the ‘gain-of-function’ being naturally occurring in bats. If true, I dare you to show us more BATS!!! 🦇 🦇 🦇 Still a big pile of 💩 💩 💩 .

Fox ran a story this morning that the Lab was ‘MOVED’ at the beginning of Dec 2019. Yeah, Everybody knows all kinds of WuFlu gain of function virus’ are released when you move a lab. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ 🙄 🙄 🙄 💩 💩 💩

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Gail Combs

You don’t just MOVE a bio level 4 lab. It is specially engineered with positive air flow, filters….

Dora

Concerned Virginian

Well, looks like some sort of “next step” is being hinted at.
Paper masks don’t stop the virus from moving around. Might as well be wearing a sieve.
Multiple “layers” of paper masks do nothing but trap more CO2 and don’t stop the virus from moving around.
The Spanish Flu pandemic proved that cloth masks are “cloth versions” of paper masks.
N-95 respirator masks? — designed to be a really close fit on the face. Probably need the types with exhalation valves. Children, anybody who has breathing issues, anybody with beards, etc. — out of the question.
Ms. Burnett — CNN mouthpiece reading whatever copy she’s given. However, one suspects that this “N-95 mask” and “Rand Paul” connection is likely set up to slam Sen. Paul, since he “outed” Fauci about NIAID’s funding of the Wuhan Lab.
And there may also be something else in play — establishing the premise that N-95 masks with exhalation valves is the “coming attraction” for this fall/winter and possibly beyond. One wouldn’t be surprised to see a future CDC diktat that all persons must wear such a mask “unless they have a medical exemption.” [“Mask Passports”, anyone?]

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Deplorable Patriot

I still believe they tried to pull off the Irish Potato Famine (malnutrition due to stolen food like butter, eggs, meat), the 1918 Flu and the Great Depression all at once.

By marketing campaign.

Gail Combs

AGREED!
We NEED animal protein/amino acids/vitamins that animal sourced food provides. AT LEAST milk, cheese and unfertilized eggs.

singingsoul1

My husband thought I was nuts I ask him to buy 4 dz eggs when he was out and about and 3 gal milk. He brought me the eggs only bought i gal milk he drinks not I. He fights me every step saying that I believe in conspiracy.
I do not fault him because he never did without never there was plenty for him all his life. He only knows an America of plenty his parents made sure of that. He is an only child.
I know what it is when there is no food or very little. Of course I am paranoid that there might be no food. The past has formed me so has it him.
I wonder how many people take it seriously that we will have food shortage?

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Gail Combs

I certainly do. I have two freezers stocked as well as a pantry full of can goods and 40 pounds of rice. Lesser amounts of dried beans since I usually do not eat them. I also have a closet full of vitamins and other medications. Plenty of seeds too.

singingsoul1

You are better at it than I am storing away. I have cans of chicken need to get some beef. I do not have a chest freezer. I wish I would some things are not worth fighting for some things people need to learn on their own. 🙂 I have 26 lb rice and lots of grains and oatmeal. Beans I have also but like you do not eat them but I guess if we have nothing to eat.
You are lucky I am sure connected to farmers to barter.

Gail Combs

Very lucky.

singingsoul1

I am happy for you 🙂

Concerned Virginian

And there’s something more going on in the background:
https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-releases-details/moderna-announces-positive-initial-booster-data-against-sars-cov

Down and Dirty Summary: Moderna, on May 5, 2021, issued a press release, announcing that a “booster shot” [aka “third dose”] of its mRNA-1273 “vaccine”, or a “booster shot” of its “variant vaccine”, mRNA-1273.351, showed “improved” immune response in studies conducted by the company. Apparently, the company’s “booster shot” contained at least 7 TIMES the amount of the spike protein compared to the “original” formulation. The NIAID (FAUCI) is ALSO working with the mRNA-1273.351 “vaccine”.

GET THIS: Moderna is ALSO working on a “multivalent vaccine”, now in “clinical trials”, a combination of BOTH its mRNA-1273 AND its mRNA-1273.351. This “multivalent vaccine” is called mRNA-1273.211.
AND THIS: The NIH-NIAID has been involved with the Moderna “vaccines” from the start. The “Phase 3 clinical trial” of the mRNA-1273 “vaccine” that showed “safety and efficacy” in the 196 cases it studied. On the basis of THIS, Moderna filed for an EUA for its mRNA “vaccine” on November 30, 2020 — and the FDA granted the EUA on December 18, 2020.

BUT IT GETS BETTER!: BARDA (Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority), part of the DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, is also involved. BARDA is reimbursing Moderna 100% of the costs to develop “vaccines” under the contract with Moderna.

**AND HERE’S THE FORCED VACCINATION OF THE MILITARY TIE-IN: FTA:
“The U.S. government has agreed to purchase supply of mRNA under U.S. Department of Defense contract no. W911QY-20-C-0100.”

singingsoul1

Was the Defense Department contract with Moderna under Trump or under Biden? Do you know?
I do know they lied to President Trump specially military.

Concerned Virginian

Here you go:
http://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Contracts/Contract/Article/2310984/
“Contracts for Aug. 12, 2020”
Army
Moderna was awarded $1.525 Billion contract for 100 Million “of a SARS-CoV-2 mRNA-1273 vaccine. Bids were solicited via the internet with one received.
Moderna will perform the work at its Cambridge, MA facility with an “estimated completion date of March 31, 2022.”
“U.S. Army Contracting Command, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, is the contracting activity (W911QY-20-C-0100).”
“(Awarded August 11, 2020)”

Moderna was ALSO awarded an Army contract on June 21, 2020, for $3.3 Billion for “modifications” for the company to produce 200 Million doses of its mRNA-1273 “vaccine.”
http://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Contracts/Contract/Article/2665060/
Contract awarded June 15, 2020
Army

Tip of the iceberg here. It appears that Moderna has been in cahoots with the DoD for well over a year. It also appears that, while Pfizer-BioNTech was making the big plays for the civilian population, Moderna was going for the the military.
And, DR. FAUCI’s NIAID IS WORKING WITH MODERNA.

Grandmaintexas

Thank you for this information.

Concerned Virginian

And, guess who was the Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 2020? — none other than “General Wokeness” himself,
Gen. MARK MILLEY, U.S. Army.

Grandmaintexas

Makes me want to vomit.

Concerned Virginian

This would be the same Gen. Mark Milley who made a show of supporting REALPOTUS 45 Donald Trump — since it would be inconceivable that Milley didn’t know about these Army contracts with Moderna, he was also doing the deals behind President Trump’s back?

Gail Combs

AND told Pence how much he looked up to him. A real slobber fest just before Pence knifed POTUS in the back.

singingsoul1

Thank you so much information so out there and no protection for the people or military to get the jab.
This is getting uglier by the day.

Grandmaintexas

Matt Walsh:

Grandmaintexas

From Revolver News:

“This arrangement ought to arouse enormous concern, not just from conservatives, but anybody who cares about the danger totalitarian woke capital poses to the basic liberties of Americans. At a minimum, simple prudence requires that conservative groups do everything they can to decouple their financial well-being from PayPal’s services. But more generally, rank and file users should look elsewhere as well, and Republican lawmakers should take interest in what is unfolding.”

https://www.revolver.news/2021/08/paypals-unholy-alliance-with-adl-opens-the-door-to-a-massive-security-breach/

bflyjesusgrl

Corrected Wa Times article, Previously said Merritt was one of Lindell’s guys, now says he was hired by Mike for Symposium

EXCLUSIVE: Cyber expert says his team can’t prove Mike Lindell’s claims that China hacked election (washingtontimes.com)

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — The cyber expert on the “red team” hired by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell now says the key data underpinning the theory that China hacked the 2020 election unveiled at the Cyber Symposium is illegitimate.

Mr. Lindell said he had 37 terabytes of “irrefutable” evidence that hackers, who he said were backed by China, broke into election systems and switched votes in favor of President Biden. The proof, he said, is visible in intercepted network data or “packet captures” that were collected by hackers and could be unencrypted to reveal that a cyberattack occurred and that votes were switched.

But cyber expert Josh Merritt, who is on the team hired by Mr. Lindell to interrogate the data for the symposium, told The Washington Times that packet captures are unrecoverable in the data and that the data, as provided, cannot prove a cyber incursion by China.

“So our team said, we’re not going to say that this is legitimate if we don’t have confidence in the information,” Mr. Merritt said on Wednesday, the second day of the symposium.

Mr. Merritt’s break from Mr. Lindell accelerated the unraveling of the MyPillow millionaire’s months of spinning of a conspiracy theory that he said would reverse the outcome of the 2020 election and restore former President Donald Trump to the White House.
Mr. Lindell delayed a scheduled unveiling of his evidence on Wednesday at the symposium.

He had offered $5 million to any in-person attendee who can disprove his claims. The offer is no longer on the table, Mr. Merritt said.

Leading up to the seminar, Mr. Lindell had displayed a video of scrolling, incomprehensible text, which he claimed were the packet captures he had received — proof, he claimed, of his China hacking theory. The video was featured in his documentary “Absolute 9-0” and was played on loop on screens throughout the convention center during the symposium.

Cybersecurity expert J. Kirk Wiebe, a former senior National Security Agency analyst and whistleblower, also said Mr. Lindell did not have the actual data sets.
He said the scrolling text was likely meant to resemble what the packet captures would look like in the data set but were not actual packet captures, which are vital to prove the claims.

Several cyber experts at the symposium became frustrated late into the first day with not being provided with packet captures.

Mr. Merritt and Mr. Wiebe said the missing packet captures could be a result of either the format the data was sent in or they were withheld by the source of the information, Dennis L. Montgomery.

Mr. Montgomery is a former government contractor who developed cyber tools named HAMMER and SCORECARD, which were allegedly used by the U.S. to influence foreign elections. Mr. Montgomery came forward with the data after he said the tools were being used to influence U.S. elections, according to Mr. Wiebe.

Mr. Merritt confirmed that Mr. Montgomery was the source of the data.
But the data Mr. Montgomery sent contains no packet captures and cannot be used to validate Mr. Lindell’s marquee theory, which he planned to unveil at the symposium, said the two experts.

Mr. Montgomery reportedly suffered a stroke on the eve of the symposium and has not been in contact with Mr. Lindell’s team or any cyber experts at the symposium.
He has been behind several other high-profile conspiracy theories, including allegations that U.S. security agencies wiretapped Trump Tower while Mr. Trump was running for president in 2016.

Mr. Montgomery said he presented the wiretap evidence to then-FBI Director James B. Comey, who dismissed the information. Mr. Montgomery later sued Mr. Comey, alleging a cover-up. The lawsuit was dropped.

Mr. Montgomery has also publicly claimed that the 2020 election was manipulated, which former director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency Christopher Krebs said was a “hoax.”

Still, Mr. Merritt said, the data did contain important “forensic” evidence of manipulated voters.

“We were handed a turd,” he said. “And I had to take that turd and turn it into a diamond. And that’s what I think we did.”

The symposium organizers unveiled data Wednesday in front of the audience, which they said showed tampering in the 2020 presidential election in Mesa County, Colorado. The presentation was ad hoc and separate from Mr. Lindell’s original claim of a nationwide hack.

Mesa County’s clerk and recorder, Tina Peters, headlined Day One of the gathering. Ms. Peters is under investigation for a potential election security breach from within her office.
Mr. Lindell’s team would not confirm the source of the data used for Wednesday’s presentation.

Phil Waldron who is the leader of the red team, said only a small slice of the data was provided to the red team, just days before the symposium.

Mr. Waldron said the remaining data, not interrogated during the symposium, could contain the packet captures and other data needed to prove China hacked the election. He also said that ample evidence was contained in the data that points to other significant election anomalies, that were just as significant and worth unpacking during the symposium.

Kurt Olsen, a lawyer on Mr. Lindell’s team said there were multiple sources of the data that Mr. Lindell claims to have, and did not confirm that Mr. Mongtomery was the source of the data. He also clarified that the $5 million challenge has not been canceled and that Mr. Merritt would not be privy to that information.

Clarification: The article previously described Mr. Merritt as Lindell’s lead cyber expert. Mr. Merritt is a cyber expert on the red team hired by Mr. Lindell to interrogate the data for the symposium, and does not work directly for Mr. Lindell.

The Professor’s Record
Forwarded from 
America First Audit Channel

JOSH MERRITT

He is a HERO and might be the most dedicated Patriot to our movement. Remember his name. He will go down in history for saving our country. Those that have shamed him, should be embarrassed. While people collect donations for opinions that are not factual and call themselves journalist, Josh spends over 15 hours a day working to help our country. He’s been ridiculed by the left and PAYtriots. He’s one of the most intelligent human beings of our time. He has given ALL for WE THE PEOPLE.

I’m honored to call him a fellow Texan and Patriot.

This is a Veteran that is still fighting for our country. Tell him THANK YOU! He will see it.

@AmericaFirstAudits
@AmericaFirstAuditsChat

The Professor’s Record
The enemy seeks to destroy those that speak truth.

Joshua Merritt is being destroyed by the SNAKE news media.

Use your discernment.

Joshua Merritt was instrumental in avoiding traps set by the enemy at the Cyber Symposium.

This angered the enemy.

The enemy lies.

History will remember Joshua Merritt as the selfless American patriot I know him to be.

P.S. – Brian Cates is a deep state hack.

The Professor’s Record
Are you keeping a list of who I have placed in my foxhole?

It’s a small list.

Enemies abound.

God sees all.

God wins.

The Professor’s Record
If a SNAKE news media rag lies to you about Mike Lindell, why would you expect the same SNAKE news media rag to tell you the truth about Joshua Merritt?

Use your common sense.

The media lies about everything that promotes truth.

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bflyjesusgrl

Mike Lindell said his cyber symposium would prove voter fraud. One cyber expert said it was just full of ‘random garbage that wastes our time.’ (yahoo.com)

Mike Lindell claimed he had 37 terabytes of information related to voter fraud that he was going to reveal. Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell’s 72-hour “cyber symposium” failed to produce legitimate evidence of voter fraud, cyber experts who attended the event said.
Lindell said he would reveal new information proving that China helped Joe Biden to “steal” the 2020 election from former President Donald Trump at the event in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

Lindell claimed he had 37 terabytes of information related to voter fraud that he would reveal. He said he’d give $5 million to any cyber expert, politician, or reporter who could refute the data, provided they attend the event in person.

Lindell’s claims were meritless, according to Rob Graham, a cyber expert who attended the symposium. “He gave us experts NOTHING today, except random garbage that wastes our time,” Graham tweeted Wednesday.

He added: “All day Mike Lindell has been on stage saying the cyber experts are happily working on packet captures. We are not. We haven’t been given the packet captures we were promised.”

Packet captures are intercepted network data obtained by other hackers. Lindell claimed the packet captures from the November 2020 election could be unencrypted to reveal evidence of voter fraud.

Harri Hursti, another attendee and election security expert, doubled down on criticism towards the event. He told The Washington Post that Lindell’s symposium was “a big fat nothing and a distraction,” adding that, “they have fed us with garbage just to control the narrative.”

Cyber expert Josh Merritt, who said he was hired by Lindell to study data for the event, told The Washington Times that the data his team had access to wasn’t enough to prove that China hacked the election.

On day two, the crowd “wasn’t having it” and mostly left as a result, tweeted Zachary Petrizzo, a Salon reporter who also attended.

A staunch ally of Trump, Lindell has been a superspreader of conspiracy theories about the election being “stolen,” despite no evidence of voter fraud.

This led to Lindell being sued by voting-machine company Dominion for $1.3 billion for saying it “switched” votes from Trump to Biden. Retailers have pulled MyPillow’s products, and Lindell said he’d received death threats.

The pundit’s relationship with conservative cable outlet, Fox News, similarly soured after the network refused to air advertisements promoting Lindell’s symposium.

Some of Trump’s most influential supporters attended the event. These included conspiracy theorists Ronald Watkins and Steve Bannon, as well as the son of Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro.

While Bannon is pro-Trump, Salon reported that he, too, was skeptical about Lindell’s claims, stating that he needed to see additional evidence.

One expert in cyber security and technology told the outlet that even if Lindell’s data claims were correct, he could face legal charges. “You can’t just pull this kind of information from a remote, you have to have a physical device sitting there that is providing this information,” the expert said.

The expert said the only way Lindell could have accumulated the kind of data he claims about voter fraud is by inserting a physical device that can “watch information that is going in and out of a network,” which is wiretapping and a breach of federal law.

Lindell did not respond to the specific concerns raised by the expert, Salon reported.
Read the original article on Business Insider

bflyjesusgrl

This one is a hit job on Lindell, but contains more info on Montgomery.

MyPillow maestro Mike Lindell held the world’s worst cybersecurity conference (mic.com)

Merritt also revealed that the source of the supposed evidence was Dennis L. Montgomery, and said that Montgomery had a stroke on the eve of the symposium and was not in touch with Lindell and his team. Montgomery has quietly been the source behind a number of conspiracy theories, including a supposed illegal conspiracy between the U.S. Department of Justice and federal judges that convicted criminal Joe Arpaio claimed to be trying to expose. In that instance, Montgomery allegedly tried to pass off a bunch of junk data as evidence and then was accused of faking a stroke just days before he was supposed to deliver the information. Sound familiar?

bflyjesusgrl

More on Montgomery. Looks like a shady character. DID HE CON LINDELL??

How a Reno casino con man duped the CIA and pulled one of the ‘most dangerous hoaxes’ in American history | PBS NewsHour

Montgomery was the maestro behind what many current and former U.S. officials and others familiar with the case now believe was one of the most elaborate and dangerous hoaxes in American history.

singingsoul1

He is a hoaxer.

Grandmaintexas

Same MO. 😂

singingsoul1

To me Montgomery has been suspect since he after Jan6 said ” that Trump had the stolen Nanzi computer”. When I heard him say it on a video supposed from the WH. My flag has gone up rightfully or wrongfully. Something is off.

At times I scare myself because I want so badly to believe people that I am tempted to overlook the lie.

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bflyjesusgrl

I believe you are correct. We need to distance ourselves from DM. I had him mixed up with the Uranium One WB that Victoria Toensig had used. Apologies.

singingsoul1

Even the best con trips up. He did when he announced to the world the WH has the Nanci computer.
I thought to myself why would they announce this that would implicate Trump with the Jan 6 fiasco. That clown tried to implicate our president. The other is that an operator told him that but he said he saw it ? Sorry I do not have the video where he said it.

bflyjesusgrl

Oh, I definitely missed that one. That’s an immediate red flag on DM. 👿

Aubergine

There is something about this Montgomery guy that has always just set my teeth on edge, but I am usually quiet about stuff like that, because I have such a cynical nature that I hate everybody. But he, like a lot of the “shills” struck me as just that.

I have a loooonnngggg list of people I listen to, but don’t really believe. I want to know what they are saying, but I think it is mostly bullshit. Dan Bongino, Sean Hannity, a whole bunch of the Q guys on Twitter and the like are on that list. They seem ok, but I don’t think they really are.

Grandmaintexas

I dropped all of them long ago.

Tortuous to try and reconcile the poop with truth.

Aubergine

Amen.

Gail Combs

LARGE SALT CELLAR!🤓

cthulhu

OK, so here’s a wild one — what if the PCAPS were thoroughly laced with signatures from the Apple Kiddie Porn database (or, vice-versa, if the AKP database were developed to alert on PCAPS)?

bflyjesusgrl

🙃🙃🙃

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll wait for the truth on Merritt to shake out.

I do want to mention that Dawson posits that the Cyber Symposium was a honeypot for hackers. I wouldn’t dismiss that concept out of hand given the attacks that the event attracted.

Brave and Free

Yeah I am there with ya DP. I believe this will definitely turn into a separation of the chaff from the wheat. We’re finding out quickly who’s side everyone is on as this heats up.
Gather the popcorn folks, the next act is unfolding in this movie.

Gail Combs

“….We’re finding out quickly who’s side everyone is on as this heats up…..”

No truer words. And I think this is why the election THEFT WAS ALLOWED!

I have known our government was corrupt for two decades and even I am surprised at the organization and depth and EVIL of that corruption.

As Dr. Zelenko explained in this video:

Long term issues are:
FERTILITY
sperm count MAJOR DECREASE
Ovaries [JAPANESE DATA SHOWS SPIKED PROTEIN TARGETS OVARIES]
Pregnant women who get the shot in the first trimester, rate of miscarriage goes from 10 to 80%, 8 times has high

Definitely increases instances of auto-immune ADE
Animal studies show antibody dependent enhancement risk.

Cancer causing
10:15 – Immunity from having Covid is a billion times better than vaccines.
15:00 – world experts are saying giving the vaccine to 7 billion worldwide would contribute to 2 billion deaths

Dr Malone inventor of mRNA says do not use this – side effects are horrific
19:28 – Vars data 11,000 deaths, 450,000 adverse effects. Severely under reported. system is rejecting death reports filed by doctors. previously reported side effects are being scrubbed.

……

BUT Dr Malone WHO HAD COVID and long haulers gets the shots to PLEASE AUTHORITIES and then takes 5 days of Ivermectin.– HMMMmmmm
He goes on to say THE IMMUNE COMPROMISED AND ELDERLY SHOULD TAKE THE SHOTS.

But those are the people most prone to be KILLED by the darn shots! So yeah, Dr Malone continues to get the side-eye from me. Some of his info is great other info not so much.

bflyjesusgrl

Qtree Detectives ROCK!!! 🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️

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Gail Combs

😎😘

singingsoul1

Dr Zelenko is a Russian Jew who has seen it all. He is awake to the evil when he sees it. Anyone who has seen the evil in another country detects it quickly. Even Wolf who had a wise mother who taught him and who is not blind to evil that is now working in our government.

Aubergine

This guy in another one on my list. Who the fuck knows what he says he knows and gets the damn shot? That ALONE qualifies you as stupid.

Grandmaintexas

REALLY! INSANE!

kalbokalbs

Not defending Malone. He could be lying about being injected.

Either way, his credibility IS in the toilet.

kalbokalbs

Still mulling over Malone comments that don’t support each other. Malone appears to have two masters.

  1. Simple truth, as Malone knows it.
  2. The other, his livelihood.

Yea, he ought to have the integrity to pick a path, the truth and live with it. Even if that means break a contract.

Malone, IMO must retract his indictment of mRNA vaccines being effective and safe. OR, retract his BS saying elderly ought to be injected.

At this point Malone sounds like FauXi…inconsistent – all over the policy map,

I get the “contract” from a post yesterday, as I recall.

bflyjesusgrl

I still want to know where data came from,. Where was the sniffer, what device was it attached to on election night, and who gave data to Lindell?????

Lindell has said in his movies that he had 3 separate teams verify the data BEFORE the symposium. And none of them invalidated prior to?? Side Eye. Then he hires Merritt, good guy according to Professor Clements, for symposium and he will not validate, but says it needs further examination. The press tried to bash Merritt by claiming he’d been on Lindell’s team all along, knowing the data was no good. NOT TRUE. Now finally they’re admitting the truth, that Merritt entered the scene for the symposium, thus the reason for the Professors defense.

Deplorable Patriot

As the story is evolving and as more information is surfacing, I get the idea that the other side tried to spike Lindell’s efforts and got caught.

The other side forgets that they weren’t the only people smart enough to be in their programming classes. Or medical school. Or law school.

Grandmaintexas

I kinda think Lindell is a honeypot for the bad guys that has been quite effective up until now.

I think we will see a bit less of him now that things are shaping up.

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TD FRED
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huge shift west since yesterday…notice the magenta line on left indicating the likely track.

expected to strengthen into a tropical storm as it gets into the GOM.

everything east of it gets the goodies (rain, mostly).

track model…
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ForGodandCountry

As previously mentioned, I have NOT been following the Lindell Symposium story very closely, much less the minutiae.

I did this on purpose. I wanted to maintain the perspective of a mildly interested but mostly skeptical person.

My “take” on the entire thing is that it was a bust. Which is greatly damaging, as it pre-conditions minds for whatever comes from the AZ audit.

I must also say I remain dumbfounded that Lindell had not already surrounded himself with bodyguards to prevent an attack upon himself.

Ridicule is a HIGHLY effective weapon in the propaganda war…

….and the MyPillow guy just handed our enemies cases of ammo.

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Understand…..it does NOT matter if new evidence was uncovered.

Lindell PROMISED a laser-guided bomb that would send shockwaves across the depth and breadth of America in a way that no one could refute. He should have known and realized the enemy would throw everything at it…but he doesn’t even has his own bodyguards!!

A shockwave. That did not happen.

Perception is EVERYTHING right now.

And Lindell just placed the AZ audit’s impact in jeopardy.

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I do NOT blame the enemy. The enemy is gonna enemy.

I blame Lindell. This is his failure. And we CANNOT afford these kind of spectacular failures.

Sorry if that ruffles some feathers here. What am I missing?

How is skepticism and ridicule going to be overcome by the highly technical details which no one will now take the time to listen to in the wake of this bust??

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Grandmaintexas

Doesn’t ruffle my feathers. I think you are wading in the shallows.

I believe Mr. Lindell has been a very effective honeypot for the bad guys.

Having been in journalism and PR, I can tell you that no news is bad news, and bad news can be very effective because it keeps an issue alive. The bad guys want the issue to GO AWAY.

I once had a diocesan spy try to convince me that if I kept speaking out publicly on a certain issue I would be destroyed in the press.

I replied that as long as I was in the public eye it didn’t matter whether the press was good or bad.

Said spy hung head in resignation.

People, stop being afraid of bad press! Stop worrying about what others are saying!

They are banking on you hanging your heads in shame and walking away.

Gail Combs

As the saying goes, “I don’t care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right.” — P.T. Barnum

AND Mike has been playing that game all along.

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Grandmaintexas

Absolutely. 😁

ForGodandCountry

Ok…..I’ll buy this…what you and Grandma are saying.

Grandmaintexas

Yay! 🥰❤🤍💙

ForGodandCountry

Specifically, I’ll buy what you say about staying in the news. And as I admitted right up front, I am wading in the shallows when it comes to this specific topic.

I get that people who have been following the details closely, like you, think it was a win.

I’m telling you that the people who haven’t, like me, don’t.

Grandmaintexas

Fair enough.

Aubergine

Sadly, I did what you did, and I feel much the same way you do.

I HOPE others are correct. I will GLADLY consume any and all crow, with a smile.

Ozzytrumpster

I think Liddell is the dinky little ww 1 destroyer on the surface getting all the enemy attention.
but I think theirs a Meg or two and a whole posse of hunter killer subs beneath

Gingersmom2009

For us to act like the Lindell event was not a major speed bump is not being reasonable.

His audience is the average person who is on our side in all things, knows in their gut the election was stolen, and wants their country back. But very few people in that audience are like the 25 regulars here – following issues for decades in great detail, cataloging names and information to the point where it’s become a primary life pursuit. His ever-expanding “regular” audience, while living through the daily twilight zone, has been watching the movies, the constant spotlight and hype to the culmination – the symposium. And Lindell has been messaging it in the most basic of terms all along, specifically for that audience.

It did not go as planned, or live up to the hype. Period.

Many in the audience will continue to follow, in order to try and understand what is being put out there as the explanation. But many won’t, and will put the whole election/fraud/audits subject back into an outer orbit. They still know it’s there, but no one wants their chain continually yanked. And this will, at least momentarily, cause people to sigh and roll their eyes at the audit effort. It’s painfully slow, labor-intensive, frustrating, and infuriating at every turn.

That being said, I love Lindell. He could very well be playing the same game as POTUS.

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Grandmaintexas

You are missing the forest for the trees.

Frankly, the average Joe is on our side no matter what. They know the stakes. They’re experiencing a communist coup in action.

They have also been on the receiving end of an endless stream of negative press, i.e., white supremacist crap, CRT, and on and on for years.

They know just as well as you and I the lies and corruption of our enemies.

The BAD PRESS DOESN’T MATTER.

It’s NO PRESS that matters.

Why do you think Big Government Tech is desperate to shut us all down?

Gingersmom2009

Everything you say is true. And I SAID the average Joe is on our side. I was simply talking about perception and people’s saturation point before something goes to the back burner and is watched from afar. You cannot purposefully ramp people up to the point that Lindell did without a perceptual setback.

But I ALSO said, perhaps Lindell was setting people up. Perhaps he purposely appears gullible, too nice, and easily snowed. We won’t know until we know.

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Grandmaintexas

Gotcha. 😃

Lindell is OTP.

Lindell can SELL. 😉

Gingersmom2009

He certainly can. When we get back from our road trip I’m buying a mattress. 😂

Grandmaintexas

LOL.

Gail Combs

I want the slippers and the Topper!

bflyjesusgrl

The slippers are nice and all, but I sent them back. My feet hurt, I gotta have more arch support and cushion. I’m more comfortable in my Reef Fanning flip flops w/socks. BONUS: Not that I ever use, but they have bottle openers underneath, JIC somebody needs their beer opened. 😎

Wyoming Sheperd

Don’t forget the mattress pad, love mine.

bflyjesusgrl

He is definitely one heck of a Promoter!!!

Gail Combs

THE GOOD VIDEOS THAT CAME OUT!!!

HOW,WHY, WHO STOLE THE ELECTION: [Colonel Phil Waldron??]
https://rumble.com/vkygqa-must-see-damning-video-explaining-how-why-and-who-stole-election.html

I think this is the same guy in the above video.
There Was A ‘Poison Pill’ In The Data At Lindell’s Cyber Symposium
https://rumble.com/vl26i1-there-was-a-poison-pill-in-the-data-at-lindells-cyber-symposium.html

Prof Clements: Government Agencies Have Infiltrated Mike Lindell’s Circle[And why LEGALLY the information out of Colorado is better legal evidence.]
https://rumble.com/vl2dzs-government-agencies-have-infiltrated-mike-lindells-circle.html

Dr Frank and the Census
https://rumble.com/vkynsx-2010-census-was-used-to-fabricate-and-inflate-the-2020-vote.html

Dr Shiva, CENSORSHIP and The Belfer Ganghttps://rumble.com/vl0pkz-dr.-shiva-exposes-big-tech-and-censor-nazis.html

LOTS MORE: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ophpumxym0au/

(June 8th) TAKE OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY: “The Precinct Strategy” with Dan Schultzhttps://rumble.com/vi9kal-take-over-the-republican-party-the-precinct-strategy-with-dan-schultz.html

More good info from Professor Clements: Col. Phil Waldron – Welcome to the Information War (1 Hr) VERY GOOD!!!https://rumble.com/vkf36l-col.-phil-waldron-welcome-to-the-information-war.html

Gingersmom2009

I understand. In my comment I purposely compared US (do you see that amount of info you just supplied?) to the basic person, on our side, who was looking forward to Lindell’s symposium. And what THAT person’s takeaway may have been. Which I think was what FGAC might have been saying.

ForGodandCountry

That is precisely the point I was making.

And I knew it would be an unpopular point of view.

Grandmaintexas

Note in the poison pill video, Col. Waldron specifically says they allowed in bad actors with a platform in order to get publicity. He didn’t say publicity, but what he means is: we need to keep this in the news–good, bad, or ugly–because it keeps the issue before the public.

The bad guys have to cover it now.

And the truth will get out there and SET US FREE.

Brave and Free

Excellent point.

bflyjesusgrl

Kinda agree. His PCAPS were a bust. Those were the basis for his 3 movies and the reason for the symposium. They haven’t been completely proven false, time will tell.

And yes, Lindell should of had security. He does now.
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HOWEVER,

This is what you missed by not watching.

The Mesa, CO EMS server was EXPLOSIVE. It proved without a doubt that Dominion is lying about their machines having NO INTERNET access. They exposed the remote access configuration options hiding under the Dominion software covers. They captured a remote IP address connecting to the EMS server, AND they caught the Dominion employee wiping out log files that are LEGALLY supposed to be kept for 22 months under the guise of doing updates. The task at hand now is identifying the rest of the servers that were updated before the election proving where Dominion broke the law all over the country.

Col. Waldren, Professor Clemments, Seth Keshel, and others provided supporting data pointing PROVING THAT THE NUMBERS ARE FRAUDULENT AND THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

Dr. Shiva was fantastic. The UNIPARTY is circumventing our 1A Free Speech rights by colluding with BigTech to censor us. He has a HUGE lawsuit in the pipeline.

There were attendees from 49 states, many from State Legislatures, who are FIRED UP and have all vowed to go back and fight for forensic audits in their states.

On day 2, Gov. Greg Abbott was convinced, on board, and the Texas Senate immediately passed a Bill for Texas Forensic Audit. Stay tuned.

There is zero negative impact on the AZ audit. The findings have not been released yet, they will be damning in their own right. This symposium only strengthened AZ’s demand for the Routers that they’re withholding. We need to see that data, it will be damning.
Wendy Rogers was there, she was fantastic, fired up, and is now going around the country exposing the fraud. President Trump has quoted her twice now and she has his support.

PCAPS aside, The Symposium was a GOOD THING!!

God Bless Mike Lindell, and I thank him for having the courage to put himself out there and fight for our country, and taking all the slings and arrows for us. We need more Patriots like him and 45. 🙏 💖 🙏

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Grandmaintexas

Amen. We don’t need shame-based reactions here!

ForGodandCountry

It’s not a matter of need, and we practice the 1st amendment here, as others tell me all the time.

Grandmaintexas

I WAS expressing my 1st amendment rights when I said that.

ForGodandCountry

You wrote:

Doesn’t ruffle my feathers.”

Clearly, it most definitely does.

Grandmaintexas

I’m afraid you’ve never seen my ruffled feathers.

If you had, you would make a wide berth around me forevermore.

😇

bflyjesusgrl

  :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol: 

Ozzytrumpster

Lik an a dry turkey? Course those fuckers are scary?

Grandmaintexas

Wait. What did you say?

Emeraldstar

>>”I certainly could see no way …”<<

This is like saying “There is NO evidence …”

The grammar isn’t right.

More precise, and accurate, grammar, in the former example, is to say:

“I certainly COULDN’T see any way …”

And in the latter example, to say:

“There isn’t any evidence …”

Of course, this should be qualified – in the latter example, there would be a progression, increasingly toward the ***whole*** the truth:

THE WORST:

“There is NO evidence …”

PROGRESSIVELY MORE TOWARD THE WHOLE TRUTH:

“There isn’t any evidence …”
“There isn’t any evidence YET …”
“There isn’t any evidence YET, that we’ve found …”
“There isn’t any evidence YET, that we’ve found, or have been looking for …”
“There isn’t any evidence YET, that we’ve found, or have been looking for, or wish to tell you about …”

I think this progression would continue – as in:

“In the case there IS any evidence, we haven’t found it.”
(et al., following the above]

And I’m sure you know that negative statements cannot be proven.

TheseTruths

>>”I certainly could see no way …”<<

This is like saying “There is NO evidence …”

I’m going to disagree on this. “I certainly could see no way” means the speaker could not SEE a way. The speaker is not saying that a way does not exist; he says he could not see one. The grammar is just fine, and the verb “see” is key.

It is not the same as saying there is no evidence. To indicate that, one would say, “There is no evidence.” It is not incorrect to say “I could see no way.”

Emeraldstar

He asserted that he COULD SEE.

Seeing nothing (“no”) ISN’T SEEING. It’s a total LACK of seeing.

The truth is that he COULDN’T SEE.

Negation belongs with the verb.

Ever diagram sentences in grammar school? I did!

So I disagree back – Ha!

Your turn …

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TheseTruths

“I could see no way” is commonly used and is correct.

Yes, I diagrammed sentences. 😄 Fun!

Negation belongs with the verb.

Not necessarily. That would remove the use of the word “no” as an adjective from the English language.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/no

“No,” adjective

not a (used before a noun to convey the opposite of the noun’s meaning): 

She’s no beginner on the ski slopes.

“I could see no way” uses “no” as an adjective modifying the direct object “way.”

“I could see a way.”
“I could see no way.”
Both are perfectly correct. In the first, the article “a” modifies “no.” In the second, the adjective “no” modifies “way.”

“I could see no money in his wallet when he opened it.”
It is not necessary to say, “I couldn’t see money.”

“I could see no birds this morning, when there had been many yesterday.”
It is not necessary to say, “I couldn’t see birds this morning.”

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Emeraldstar

I get what you’re saying, TT!

IMO, every word has a proper origin – a FIRST usage, a FIRST part-of-speech.

Because colloquial speech must be addressed in any grammar analysis (how it IS used, rather than only how it SHOULD be used), the practical often overshadows the theoretical.

Have you ever come across the phrase that “language” seems designed to lie?

I think that this is the case here.

>>”Both are perfectly correct.”<<

According the the standard rules of grammar – which themselves are imperfect!

Is everyone SURE that the conventions of language are “perfect”? I ain’t. To me, they’re just conventional guidelines, which may be amended or emended in the future.

Poetry, for example, often flouts strict adherence to the staid grammatical conventions. (“And the sun shined the brighter”, for example, isn’t grammatically proper – one of myriad examples!).

TT, there are also a TON of mistakes (omissive, predominantly) in mathematical thinking. The same is true, IMO, of language analysis (grammar, syntax, etc.)

There is an informal fallacy called “Appeal to Convention”, which basically says that because it’s always been done in a specific way, then it must also be done NOW in that same way. The “then” is the fallacy, because it DOESN’T necessarily follow.

This doesn’t leave any room (note that I don’t say that it “leaves no room”!) for progress, for better understanding, for refining.

There is also an informal fallacy called “Appeal to Authority”, wherein one simply takes as true what the “authority” says.

Our national institutions – like, say, the CDC right now – are appealed to as an authority (perfect) by the media and those in league … and yet, we see them as BULLSHIT.

Could not the same be true of the “authority” of grammar, and of math, and of logic? Just a teeny bit of BS?

Einstein once said (slight paraphrase, emphasis added) that “It isn’t that physics is WRONG … it’s that it isn’t RIGHT ENOUGH.”

Are we sure that grammar-rules are “right enough” – that is, that they are perfect, and immutable? I ain’t! Same with math, same with logic.

Rhetoric is the study of persuasion, of using language to make a more potent point. Often, this language is more powerful by using as few syllables as possible.

But there is a trade-off, when one substitutes language-bytes for full language.

End-of-topic here, for me! I believe that I get your points – I hope that you allow for my points – perhaps – to have some essential truth, overlooked by today’s conventions.

TheseTruths

I think you are saying that usage of “no” as an adjective is somewhat nonstandard. But that is not the case. In fact, you are the only person I have ever seen assert that.

there are also a TON of mistakes (omissive, predominantly) in mathematical thinking. The same is true, IMO, of language analysis (grammar, syntax, etc.)

You seem to be making a case for making your own rules and ignoring accepted usage.

“No” as an adjective is not colloquial. It is not an “imperfect rule of grammar.” It is not accepted “just because it’s always been done that way.” It is acceptable, correct usage.

Many times, doing something a certain way over time does lead to its becoming accepted as correct, and there is nothing wrong with that. But that isn’t the case here.

You are also the only person I have ever heard assert the concept that some parts of speech for a word are more acceptable than others — or “first usage.” When usage is substandard or archaic, dictionaries and other sources will say so. That is not the case here.

Examples in literature of “no” as an adjective or determiner can’t be dismissed as substandard or as being accepted just because it’s always been done that way.

I have no way, and therefore want no eyes.

Shakespeare, King Lear
https://www.litcharts.com/shakescleare/shakespeare-translations/king-lear/act-4-scene-1

I kissed thee ere I killed thee. No way but this, Killing myself, to die upon a kiss.

Shakespeare, Othello
https://quotepark.com/quotes/1206775-william-shakespeare-i-kissed-thee-ere-i-killed-thee-no-way-but-this/

Luke 2:7

And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

Other examples of “no” used as an adjective or determiner:
“There seems to be no way to accomplish that.”
“No way out”
No way, dude.” 😆
“She’s no fool.”
No smoking
“There is no evidence to support that.”
“There’s no food in the fridge.”

It would be cumbersome to alter each of those as follows (which is what you seem to advocate):
“There doesn’t seem to be a way to accomplish that.”
“There isn’t a way out.”
“There isn’t a way, dude.”
“She isn’t a fool.”
“There can’t be smoking.”
“There isn’t evidence to support that.”
“There isn’t food in the fridge.”

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Emeraldstar

TT, I’ve got IRL stuff to do, so this must suffice for now …

>>”In fact, you are the only person I have ever seen assert that.”<<

>>”making your own rules”<<

So far, I’ve come to the same conclusion.

In a way.

“Nonstandard” = “Non-conventional”.

TheseTruths

If you have studied or researched at all, you can’t possibly be saying that I’m the only person asserting the things I’ve said. All my experience and learning and every source I consult backs me up. So I’m not sure I’m understanding your meaning.

The prohibition of “no” as an adjective is nonconventional and seeks to change the way the English language has worked for centuries. You may choose to use it that way, but it can’t be asserted that everyone else must, or that those who do not adhere to your opinion are wrong. No way. 😊

Grandmaintexas

Also, “In no way am I…..” 🙂

TheseTruths

Good one!

TheseTruths

Excellent! Thank you for this. The negativity here, not balanced with all the facts, is surprising.

bflyjesusgrl

I’m just a novice, but IMO, I’m thinking catching Dominion lying and breaking the law will go a long way in the defense of Lindell, Powell, Giuliani, OAN, Newsmax, et. al, lawsuits. That alone was worth the symposium’s weight in gold. Bring on the Discovery!!!

ForGodandCountry

Shouldn’t be…. I even stated indirectly I didn’t have all the facts.

I stated quite clearly the role I has assumed for myself.

ForGodandCountry

…had assumed for myself.

Sorry. Fat finger typo

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TheseTruths

The surprise is that people are choosing to have a negative view when they admittedly don’t have all the facts.

I did this on purpose. I wanted to maintain the perspective of a mildly interested but mostly skeptical person.

My “take” on the entire thing is that it was a bust.  Which is greatly damaging, as it pre-conditions minds for whatever comes from the AZ audit.

You chose to present your take that it was a bust when you didn’t have all the facts, and you made a judgment call about the symposium’s effect on the AZ audit, without all the facts.

I’m not commenting on your right to do that, I’m just saying it’s surprising to me.

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ForGodandCountry

I don’t know why you seem surprised. I admitted from the start that I didn’t have all the facts while giving my impression of what happened.

Moreover, I made no judgment of the symposium’s effect on the AZ audit, I stated a fear regarding it.

And I’ll repeat….I hope I’m wrong….on all counts.

None of that should be surprising.

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Aubergine

Well, TT, I can tell you why I did pretty much the same thing FG&C did.

I am well-saturated with information about the stolen election. If I didn’t know another thing about it ever, I would be CERTAIN it was stolen.

For me, the symposium was not necessary.

So, I elected to pretend to be a “normie” to see what I thought about it as it went on. Because the normies are killing us. They are killing the process, because they are APATHETIC. My personal feeling is until we break through that apathy, nothing good is going to happen. Too many people just don’t care.

As an apathetic normie, the symposium was “meh.”

Now, opinions on whether that matters at all vary greatly, I know. And I have stated that I LOVE Mike Lindell, I think he is a great patriot who is sacrificing an amazing amount of money, time, and personal energy to our cause.

But normies don’t love Mike. They love their stupid TVs, phones, video games, and other dumb stuff.

If others here are correct, that matters not at all, because it wasn’t the point. I can see exactly what FG&C is saying, though. If normies matter, it was a bust.

TheseTruths

If normies matter, it was a bust.

But do they?

Those who are reading what the major players are saying, and those who are witnessing what Wolf is coming up with (even if it’s not all understood at the moment), know that there’s more to this than any normie could have absorbed over three days.

Normies aren’t going to force audits; we are. Normies aren’t going to begin to believe that the things we think happened are even possible. I know some people are waking up, and that’s good. But I’m done with trying to convince those who will not see. We have to save the country in spite of them, until they wake up. And that’s not going to happen in a few days.

Grandmaintexas

My God, why can’t people see this? The normies are not who will win this war!

Deplorable Patriot

I tend to agree.

HOWEVER, with all the cyber attacks and the infiltration on the floor of the audience, etc., it was demonstrated that the enemy considers Lindell and his team a threat to the point of contaminating his data.

That cannot be understated.

And, it is rather dumbfounding that Lindell’s hotel arrangements were actually available for possible attack.

bflyjesusgrl

IMO, Lindell is a Godly man, and believes in the general goodness of people. He doesn’t think in terms of evil like the enemy does, but has a good idea of how ruthless they can be. He prepared as best he could in some areas, he had 4 options for broadcasting the symposium. The enemy attacked and took out the first 3, #4 held up with some glitches for the most part.
He rented out the entire hotel and all conference rooms. There was security at the entrances and various places where badges were required. I think he naively assumed the entire hotel premises were safe.

Colonel Waldren confirmed there were definitely cyber, physical, infiltrators. The Red Team was in charge of handling security, among other things.

Lindell was transparent and addressed every hit the enemy threw at him. (Except the PCAPS 😭 )

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Emeraldstar

In the case that the PCAPS **was** poison-pilled, which alternative should one choose?

Present it, and lose HUGE (i.e., allow its entirety to be catastrophically smeared)?

Or NOT present it, and merely take a temporary TIMING hit (rather than a SUBSTANCE hit)?

I think the answer is obvious.

I also think it a capital mistake to judge based on what was WANTED (emotional) or EXPECTED (same), rather than what was NEEDED.

“I wanted an A!!! All I got was a B!!! So … FAIL!!!”

Sheesh.

Grandmaintexas

Exactly.

ForGodandCountry

I disagree with the analogy.

It attempts to undermine the significance and importance of expectations by claiming they are an emotional need.

And Lindell certainly set very, very high expectations.

Emeraldstar

>>”I disagree with the analogy.”<<

Of course you do!

Who’s doing the expecting? YOU ARE.

OWN IT.

Yet you assign the responsibility to others.

Are others responsible for your hopes, your dreams, your wishes? NO.

This is called psychological projection.

The statue did it! Statue bad! Statue EVIL! Take it DOWN, because muh feelz!

It caused me my bad feelz! My feelz aren’t MY fault – it’s the STATUE’s fault!!!

“Yeah, that’s the ticket …”

Pfft.

ForGodandCountry

LOL

Pffft indeed!

I did not set anyone’s expectations on this matter. Lindell did.

You now say that no one, including me, should have have held any expectations over the event….especially given all the hype and build-up over it (ex: $5M who can prove the data wrong!)…and if anyone DID allow themselves to have any expectation over and in the aftermath were disappointed, they should “own” it.

😂 😂 😂

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Grandmaintexas

Which of your expectations were not fulfilled?

bflyjesusgrl

🤐 🤐 🤐

Grandmaintexas

😆🤣

Grandmaintexas

I think anyone who has been closely following the situation would understand that expectations were met.

If pcaps are your thing then maybe you might be disappointed.

The participants said numerous times that it was going to take time to get the data results out there.

They counseled patience over and over. They even mentioned a couple times that they understand we are desiring a quick resolution.

If you focus on what was advertised to us (Lindell wasn’t just selling to the patriots) and not what we actually got, then you would be disappointed.

ForGodandCountry

Thank you, Grandma. This is exactly the point I have been making.

I’m not saying it’s the correct perception to have, I’m saying it’s MY perception and one I fear that most people who didn’t follow the event closely (like me) would have.

bflyjesusgrl

And just a note…..

The PCAPS have not been totally discredited. They need more study.

So the jury is still out.
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Emeraldstar

Absolutely.

I bet the “geeks” and “autists” (who have tremendous value, on their own ground) have been MADLY analyzing the data since the moment the news hit.

It seems that many want perfection – according to their own standards (“subjectivity” DEFINED) – instead of progress for all.

And one wonders why there’s been so much in-fighting among the Repubs (RINO’s aside, partially), and so much SINGULARITY OF PURPOSE (unity) among the commie-dems?

Even P45DJT has called this weakness out – multiple times.

Shall we pass some mirrors around?

KNOW THYSELF.

Grandmaintexas

It is difficult for people to understand if they haven’t personally been through a crucible experience in a public manner.

Self-preservation is an enormous element. And the enemy plays us every time. They bank on it.

There is a saying that we need to die to self.

Patriots need to do that. Be a fool for (God) America.

The truth is getting out there, even with all the lies, mockery, hit pieces, etc.

Just keep standing. Hold fast.

Emeraldstar

That’s the plan!

What’s that saying? Slight paraphrase:

“Truth is like a lion. It doesn’t need to be defended – just set it free, and it will defend itself!”

Grandmaintexas

That’s it!!!

singingsoul1

So true 🙂

piper567

Emerald, source: St Augustine.

bflyjesusgrl

Amen goes right there, G-Ma!! 💖

Cuppa Covfefe

With regard to foolishnes, and those who consider themselves wise:
 
I Corinthians 1:27

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

I Corinthians 3:19
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

II Timothy 4:3-4:
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Romans 1:18-32. (In particular v. 22):

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Grandmaintexas

Thank you for this. I cannot tell you how meaningful these Scriptures are to me. 💓

singingsoul1

Agree “wanted rather than needed”.
God always gives us what we need for the time not what we want. Often when we look back God made the right choice.
That is something to learn and learn over and over 🙂
Thank you for that reminder 🙂

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Grandmaintexas

The pcaps. We’re gonna have a good laugh over those one day, I think.

Emeraldstar

>>”a good laugh”<<

I’d rather that than a “bad weep”.

If we continue to engage in petty differences, the latter becomes ever more likely.