20200402: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

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michaelh

Obama’s high water mark – I love it!!!

Alison

You are rockin’ the memes, Daughn 😃😅 I wish POTUS would do that to NYTimes & WaPoo

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WaPoo is sticking to the bowl for this boy!!!

Alison

😷😷😄😬😅

kea

TP menorah lol loved all three of them!
TP currency

kea

Sometimes the best medicine is laughter

kea

So after 1 TP roll for 8 days and 8 nights what than? Use the nyt?

churchmouse

By then, you have been blessed with eight more toilet rolls.
That’s how I read it, anyway. 🙂

Alison

michaelh

GasBuddy: Gas Price Map
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michaelh

“We’re meeting right now, and I think they’ll work something out. And if they don’t, I think I know what to do to solve it” – VSGPOTUSDJT
Meeting with Oil Companies and Producers on Friday

cthulhu

Betcha they are. And the terms for this aid are “we got extra gowns and masks. We’ll flip those to you now. When you have extra stuff we need, we’d appreciate a backatcha.” Meaning it could be Ford ventilators or hydroxychloroquine when we’re pumping out buckets of the stuff….

prognosticatasaurusrex

Hey, we can “repay” Vladimir by giving him a “special care package” A direct military flight to Moscow, containing one SPECIAL passenger. Soros. I bet Vlad would quadruple his aid then. Hell Vlad might throw in PROOF that the Russia hoax was NOT them.

Gail Combs

Don’t forget his sprouts. They are as rotten as he is and just as guilty.

prognosticatasaurusrex

True!

Teagan

And still young enough to continue to destroy all in their path…😡🤬

Sadie Slays

In case it hasn’t been posted yet: this “coronavirus patient” in NYC is wearing a cabal ring:

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scott467

That hospital tent is teeming with hordes of sick New Yorkers. I hope they’re not all maxed out like this one is.
It’s like we’re being intentionally pranked.

scott467

It’s like they’re preparing for Woodstock, and only Joe Biden’s supporter showed up. 😂

Gingersmom2009

Pretty soon the Samaritan’s Purse crew is going to wonder what they even showed up for.

Deplorable Patriot

Note that the hospital is Mount Sinai. From what I can tell that is a cabal outpost. It might be a signal of some sort.

Alison

Where is the photo of the patient wearing a ring?? All I see is other people, but not the patient??

GA/FL

I am getting weary of CTs, numerology and far out mystic/surrealistic/science fiction prognostications from those allegedly on our side.
Remember gnostic is right in the middle of prognostication. It’s faux religion, faux prophecy and faux truth.

scott467

“Where is the photo of the patient wearing a ring?? All I see is other people, but not the patient??”
______________
The patient’s hand with the ring is just outside the photo. The patient is under the blue blanket, with the doctor wearing the bright blue-green surgical mask attending to him.
If you click on the photo it takes you to the original Twitter photo, which is larger, and you can see the patient’s hand and the ring. Click on the photo at Twitter and it enlarges further. It’s the same ring as all the other Cabal members seem to wear.
Which, of course, is bizarre and not a coincidence.

michaelh

(Thanks trumpismine for the great open today!)
American Greatness is Coming Back in a Big Way!!!
This is our moment to come together, to show our enemies, to show the world, and for all time . . .
Though they thought they could defeat us . . .
WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

Great moments are born from great opportunity.
And that’s what you have here tonight, boys.
That’s what you’ve earned here, tonight.
One game.
If we played ’em ten times, they might win nine.
But not this game. Not tonight.
Tonight, we skate with ’em.
Tonight, we stay with ’em, and we shut them down because we can!
Tonight, we are the greatest hockey team in the world.
You were born to be hockey players — every one of ya.
And you were meant to be here tonight.
This is your time.
Their time — is done. It’s over.
I’m sick and tired of hearin’ about what a great hockey team the Soviets have.
Screw ’em!
This is your time!!
Now go out there and take it!comment imagecomment image

gil00

Lol. Tp menorah…aw man. And you know what? The best TP is Scott tp cause its lasting forever.

Gingersmom2009

It’s the best for septic systems too, or so I’ve heard. 😀

Linda

Gudthots

https://wearethene.ws/notable/94146
Post 8653523 7 hours ago • View on 8kun
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-warned-about-biosecurity-risk-after-chinese-nationals-snuck-suspicious-vials-into-us
FBI warned about ‘biosecurity risk’ after Chinese nationals snuck suspicious vials into US
by Jerry Dunleavy
| April 01, 2020 06:21 PM
An intelligence bulletin from the FBI late last year warned of a growing “biosecurity” threat within the United States after Chinese nationals were caught attempting to sneak potentially dangerous viruses into the country by plane.
The “tactical intelligence report” from the FBI’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate assessed in November that “foreign scientific researchers who transport undeclared and undocumented biological materials into the U.S. in personal carry-on and/or checked luggage almost certainly present U.S. biosecurity and biosafety risks,” according to the unclassified document obtained by Yahoo News.
Even when these samples were declared, investigators warned, “It is impossible to determine, without testing, the validity of the contents of the samples and if they pose a risk to U.S. human, animal, or plant populations.”
The bureau’s Chemical and Biological Intelligence Unit pointed to at least three separate instances in 2018 and 2019 where Chinese nationals tried to bring undeclared samples of bacteria and viruses, some of them potentially highly dangerous, into the U.S. All of the failed attempts were stopped by Customs and Border Protection at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.
One of the incidents took place a couple months before the coronavirus outbreak first appeared in Wuhan, China. The U.S. intelligence community believes the Chinese lied about the severity of the COVID-19 outbreak for months and to this day is covering up the real number of cases and deaths in China.
Last year’s FBI report said in September that a Chinese national was stopped after he “initially made no positive declarations, but was later found to have eight vials of clear liquid in their checked luggage.” The bureau noted that “the vials had no supporting documentation.” The Chinese national claimed that it was “DNA … derived from a low-pathogenicity strain of H9N2,” which was a flu-type virus that killed a small number in Asia. But some vials had “WSN” handwritten on top, an acronym for the H1N1 influenza virus commonly known as swine flu, which killed over 12,000 in the U.S. and more globally. The bureau said that “the materials were confiscated” and that the unnamed person was allowed to travel to Texas “to work with a researcher associated with” an unnamed “U.S. research institution.”
The bureau advisory also recounted how, in November 2018, another Chinese national was found with three vials labeled “antibodies” in his luggage. The person identified himself as a “biologist” but “had not declared the materials” and “did not have appropriate documentation for the items.” The Chinese national said that “the items came from a researcher in China who asked him to deliver them to another colleague,” again at an unnamed “U.S. research institution.” The writing on the vials combined with their destination led U.S. officials to believe the vials might contain “viable” specimens of Middle East respiratory syndrome and severe acute respiratory syndrome viruses. MERS has killed just under one thousand people worldwide since 2012, and SARS killed just under 800 globally between 2002 and 2004.
FBI investigators further noted that, in May 2018, a Chinese national was stopped. This person claimed to be “a breast cancer researcher in Texas” who “was not traveling with any biological products.” But, upon further inspection, the person admitted to be “possibly traveling with plasmids,” a type of extrachromosomal DNA. He was found to have one “centrifuge tube” in his checked bag, saying it was “non-infectious E. Coli bacteria-derived plasmids.” The bureau said the Chinese national was “unable to provide any accompanying documentation or permits,” so the U.S. officials put the centrifuge on an “agricultural hold” and let him go.
The U.S. government’s concerns about Chinese research in the U.S. have grown recently.

Alison

Good grief, if that’s what’s being brought in via commercial flights, imagine what’s in the diplomatic pouches!!

Teagan

That’s one “tradition” I think should be removed…diplomatic pouches should be inspected…period.
Not sure when or how it began, but obviously greatly abused at this point….and undoubtedly dangerous.

Harry Lime

And I remember when they made me throw out my liquid shampoo…

Gudthots

They are consistant. Everybody gets let go after they take your contraband.

grandmaintexas

The Chinese, in conjunction with scientific/academic traitors in the USA, are waging war on us. Please God, help us to root out the enemy, foreign and domestic, and keep our people safe! Amen.

singingsoul1

Not every biological researcher who lead a lab is American born. My son worked for two one Indian a a University and one Pakistani who owned a lab. They treat American researchers like slaves.
Researchers are alway searching for money to keep their labs going and the staff researches are paid little because of money crunch.
Something has to change if we are going to promote PhD who are American born and not make them compete with Chinese, Russian Middle eastern who never take vacation and work 18 hour days 7 days a week. Many good American researchers burn out or do not get a job after their education. My son has friends who never got a position and some killed themselves and saw themselves as failures.

grandmaintexas

This is horrible. May globalism die a thousand deaths!!!!

Gudthots

AMEN.

Valerie Curren

“The bureau’s Chemical and Biological Intelligence Unit pointed to at least three separate instances in 2018 and 2019 where Chinese nationals tried to bring undeclared samples of bacteria and viruses, some of them potentially highly dangerous, into the U.S. All of the failed attempts were stopped by Customs and Border Protection at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.”
What is the Real reason for the Detroit connection?

Gudthots

Interesting question!

Gudthots

https://wearethene.ws/notable/94141
Post 8653657 7 hours ago • View on 8kun
Israel’s MDA to treat coronavirus patients with new ‘passive vaccine’
This assumes that those who have recovered from COVID-19 have developed special anti-virus proteins or antibodies in their plasma, which could therefore help sick patients cope with the disease.
The first patient who recovered from coronavirus donated plasma on Wednesday that will be used to create a “passive vaccine” to treat Israelis who are severely ill with COVID-19, according to Magen David Adom deputy director-general of blood services Prof. Eilat Shinar.
This assumes that those who have recovered from the disease have developed special antivirus proteins or antibodies in their plasma, which could therefore help sick patients cope with it.
“When people are exposed to any disease, they develop antibodies,” Shinar explained.
Passive immunization is when you get those preformed antibodies. An active vaccine, in contrast, is when you are injected with a dead or weakened version of a virus that tricks your immune system into thinking that you’ve had the disease and your immune system creates antibodies to protect you.
In the first phase, plasma will be frozen and then delivered to hospitals across the country for patients to be treated by transfusion, Shinar said. In the second phase, the goal is to collect enough plasma to prepare antibody (immunoglobulin) concentrate with which patients will be treated later.
Shinar said the Health Ministry is currently in discussion with two companies that can create the immunoglobulin and is writing a protocol for who can receive the treatment.
MDA has been collecting plasma for more than 30 years; thousands of volunteers donate blood this way every day. Plasma with antibodies was used to treat patients with SARS during the outbreak in 2002. In addition, Israel offered a similar treatment to patients with West Nile fever.
Last week, Shinar said, the FDA approved a similar protocol in the US.
Earlier this week, The Journal of the American Medical Association published an article about plasma being used to treat five COVID-19 patients in China, which said that it “very much helped in their recovery,” Shinar said.
Before being able to donate plasma, a patient must wait 14 days from the time he or she was confirmed negative for coronavirus via two separate swab tests – hence the reason the first plasma was donated only on April 1. Shinar said that there should be another batch of donors available after Passover – those who were infected over the Purim holiday.
MDA will invite the potential donors to its Pheresis Unit at MDA’s Blood Services Center at Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer. Shinar said that if there are enough donors from a particular city, however, MDA could set up a center there. Donors can also offer to donate on their own by calling 03-530-0445.
Plasma can be given as much as twice a month.
MDA director-general Eli Bin said his organization is at the forefront of the fight against the coronavirus in Israel, and with this new treatment and others being tested in Israel and around the world, “we all hope that together we will overcome this challenge.”
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israels-MDA-to-treat-coronavirus-patients-with-new-passive-vaccine-623172

Teagan

Read they’ve started at least some part of this at hospital in Ft. Worth.

michaelh

Some of the usual pundits must be needing more clickbait – are selling the idea that massive inflation is around the corner. . .
Credit Crisis Averted… Monetary Crisis Initiated
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/credit-crisis-averted-monetary-crisis-initiatedcomment image
There’s always a promotion of buying gold with inflationary panic around the time of economic uncertainty. You can bank on it – because someone is and making a killing when the gold prices spike.
Some modest inflation does not scare me. The dollar amounts that they are talking about pumping into the economy sound enormous, but they are only a small percentage of the total GDP pie.
Keep in mind that other nations around the world are CHEATING. They have negative interest rates. In effect we are importing deflation.
We have an incredibly strong dollar. But it is too strong against other currencies, which is making trade harder. Meanwhile, the dollar keeps getting stronger and stronger – what we are not seeing is that the dollar is STABLE against other currencies.
Despite all the chicken little’s declaring the inflationary sky is falling, there is little to no evidence to support any of the doomsday scenarios. IMO, the economic shutdown scenario risks significant deflationary pressure. It’s never particularly popular to talk about the destructive consequences of deflation on the poor.
Those are just my thoughts, I am not an economist or an expert on these matters, but the idea that a small marginal increase in the total money supply proportional to the GDP is going to send us into hyperinflation is paranoid hyperbole.

cthulhu

You have it correct when you say we are importing deflation. For decades, we have inflated our currency to help the rest of the world’s economies……but that don’t play in MAGA times.
And everyone with eyes to see knows the Euro is about to fracture.

Gudthots

Yesterday there was a post with Dr. Shiva’s recommendations for supplementation. I’m not going to say those recommendations are wrong, but it seems wise to take a step back here.
Think about it.
Unlike other doctors THAT ARE TREATING COVID-19 PATIENTS he is simply giving his idea of good supplementation. No patient data. What if Vit A is typically good but for some reason in COVID-19 it’s very bad?
Also, He is happily drawing attention to himself and his superior knowledge, soundinig like a “Trump should do this” mentality. This always is a big flag for me.
Yes, he may be absolutely right and have great ideas, but something is off at least a little bit. However, in my years I have read book after book that had “the answer” given by a doctor with “success” in something but how they said things worked just did not agree with experience of other doctors looking at their work. But they sold books and booked lots of appointments.
I prefer to listen to doctors that have experience treating patients with similar diseases,
like Dr. Klinghardt who has treated MERS, even MERSA and now COVID-19 patients.
https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Dr-Klinghardt-Corona-2020-slides-9-march-2020.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIL2FVlaZu4

Gudthots

I do completely agree with Dr. Shiva’s assessment of how broken medical science BTW.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, I’m a bit side-eye on his recommendation of vitamin A without clinical proof, because I’ve actually experienced hypervitaminosis A, and it’s annoying. And I also need COVID-19 specific evidence with real patients. Raoult’s work with HCQ/AZM was real. Chinese work with Vitamin C is suspect, but vitamin C in 500-1000 mg/day pulled ME through it, with some damage, so I’m OK with the idea as maybe proven.
Is there clinical evidence that vitamin A works against COVID-19?

cthulhu

You’ve experienced hypervitaminosis A? Did that involve seafood?
I supplement my beta carotene intake. If you take too much, you turn orange (harmlessly). It is converted in your body to vitamin A as your body determines necessary — if you need none, it converts none.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Supplements!

smiley2

ZINC…and D3…and, of course, lots of C

Gudthots

I’ve not researched it but I do recall many anti-vaxx doctors saying low Vit A status is what makes children more vulnerable to poor outcomes with measles, rubella, etc.
Should be able to search on those types of terms and pull up what they are basing this on.

Gail Combs

Wolfie asks: “Is there clinical evidence that vitamin A works against COVID-19?”
….
Journal of Medical Virology
Potential interventions for novel coronavirus in China: A systematic review
It names several vitamins and supplements. This is the section for vitamin A.

2 GENERAL TREATMENT FOR VIRAL INFECTION
2.1 Nutritional interventions
2.1.1 Vitamin A
Vitamin A is the first fat‐soluble vitamin to be recognized and β‐carotene is its plant‐derived precursor (Table 1). There are three active forms of vitamin A in the body, retinol, retinal, and retinoic acid. Vitamin A is also called “anti‐infective” vitamin and many of the body’s defenses against infection depend on an adequate supply. Researchers have believed that an impaired immune response is due to the deficiency of a particular nutritional element.10 Vitamin A deficiency is strongly involved in measles and diarrhea11 and measles can become severe in vitamin A‐deficient children. In addition, Semba et al12 had reported that vitamin A supplementation reduced morbidity and mortality in different infectious diseases, such as measles, diarrheal disease, measles‐related pneumonia, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, and malaria. Vitamin A supplementation also offers some protection against the complications of other life‐threatening infections, including malaria, lung diseases, and HIV.13 Jee et al14 had reported that low vitamin A diets might compromise the effectiveness of inactivated bovine coronavirus vaccines and render calves more susceptible to infectious disease. The effect of infection with infectious bronchitis virus (IBV), a kind of coronaviruses, was more pronounced in chickens fed a diet marginally deficient in vitamin A than in those fed a diet adequate in vitamin A.15 The mechanism by which vitamin A and retinoids inhibit measles replication is upregulating elements of the innate immune response in uninfected bystander cells, making them refractory to productive infection during subsequent rounds of viral replication.16 Therefore, vitamin A could be a promising option for the treatment of this novel coronavirus and the prevention of lung infection….

NYGuy

Totally fine with it. No issues at all with Vitamin A.The key is to not take beyond what is recommended. I take it for different reasons than for the cuomovirus.
Like with all these people that get posted here, it has to settle in your mind in a believable way. If not, don’t listen. It does not mean it can’t help other people. Often times, experts in the exact same area disagree with one another. So it tells me it is just a point of view. Perhaps one is more informed than the other but that then falls on our judgment.

singingsoul1

I have macula degeneration and take meds with high dose of Vitamin A.
Occasionally I take myself off just to cleanse my body.

Teagan

Proves again every…body is different. Note…that’s not the same as saying everybody is different.
We all react/respond in different ways because of what our body needs …or not.
My current doctor prescribed a (very expensive) progesterone for better sleep and rest…well, it appears it made my blood pressure skyrocket. Haven’t been back yet nor reported it, but immediately took myself off and continue to monitor before calling him to see if that’s the culprit.
I’m confident we will tweak and work it out, but it’s just an example that one size doesn’t fit all.

NYGuy

That is a great comment. Agree 100%

Alison

Same way with the food regimens folks recommend. Every Body is different.

Ozobserver

You might want to look into Wellspring’s Serenity bio-identical progesterone. I have found it very effective but don’t have blood pressure issues.

Teagan

Thanks…doctor is very much into the bio-identical hormones…this is probably one of them. I never had BP issues, either!
Ironically, took bio -Idents for years then the head of the Medical School’s OB/GYN department switched me because Bios “couldn’t be properly measured”. Now I have a huge supply of those @$8 a pill and say to this doc I’m using them first!

Gudthots

I agree with what you are saying. I’m not really flagging his recommendations as concerning as saying he seems to be short on experience with TREATING THIS VIRUS and has more self-promotion than I generally see in a doctor humbled by treating more difficult cases.

NYGuy

He’s a pretty bright guy. I listen and take in what I think works for me. There are some videos where he explains how the covid cells attach to regular cells which I found helpful in understanding the virus.

Sadie Slays

I will wear a mask when Senators Michael Bennet and Pat Toomey start wearing masks. No more double standards for politicians!

scott467

“Today, @SenToomey and I are calling on @CDCgov to advise Americans to wear homemade masks when they have to leave the house.”
_______________
Homemade masks?
Like we did when we were kids on Halloween, and couldn’t afford real ones?
Who is this guy? 😂
What’s wrong with a regular commercially produced mask?
Or are those only for you important government types?

Alison

Antifa was ahead of its time.

grandmaintexas

OMG, I’m laughing my butt off!

Volgarian8301

They trying to make it difficult to tell who is who when the “protests” inevitably start? 🤔🤷

Teagan

Especially if they all wear hazmat suits and surgical gloves.

para59r

Agreed. Best way to play this is ask points of commerce to make a face covering mandatory to conduct commerce. ie shop. But only in places where spread is likely. No need to wear one when your away from points of congregation.
Of course dems will make this as painful as possible and will be checking to see if your wearing one while in the bed room fast asleep. That said, not all people coming into your bed room at night while the lights are out are from the government so it might be a good idea to establish a running password. 😎

cthulhu

Did anyone else notice that a psychopath actually derailed a train to try to attack the USNS Mercy in Los Angeles Harbor?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/04/01/man-arrested-after-derailing-train-to-attack-usns-mercy-hospital-ship-docked-in-los-angeles-n2566182

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The MK-DEM party used a truck on a train. Might as well try a train on a boat! 😉

Volgarian8301

Don’t forget a plane on a building…..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, I am SO PISSED at Adam Schiff, MONSTER CHI-COM COLLABORATOR, for asking to hold cover-up hearings, it ain’t funny.
He wants to have “hearings” now? While he’s in POWER to cover up his own role?
OH, BURN THAT BASTARD NOW.
That’s it, I’m done. His fucking impeachment scam was TIMED to work with the freaking Chinese biological attack, and that whole nest of TRAITORS needs to be THROWN IN THE FIRE AND BURNED TO NOTHING.

Volgarian8301

Gosh, Wolfie, don’t hold back…how do you REALLY feel? 😉

smiley2

ADAM SCHIFF’S AN ASSHOE
F U ADAM SCHITT
STFU ADAM SHITHEAD
GO WET KISS PELOSI, YOU POS SCHIFF
feel much better now 😀

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“AMEN”!!! 😀

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Here is some more pro-mask out there:
https://twitter.com/neuro7plastic/status/1245602566383140865
https://twitter.com/neuro7plastic/status/1245603007510675456
https://twitter.com/neuro7plastic/status/1245603147709419524
https://twitter.com/neuro7plastic/status/1245607074752385030
Even did a bit of window shopping!

scott467

“Limited data suggest that *cloth masks protect against droplet transmission better than no barrier.*”
________________
Ya think?
I love how they pretend like this is some kind of new discovery… 😂
This just in… after decades of research, scientists and medical professionals around the globe reveal that cloth masks protect better than no barrier at all.
Surgeons and their assistants to begin wearing masks pronto, Trapper John.
When reached for comment, several surgeons commented, saying ‘We never knew… if only we had known… this is gonna save lives…” 👍 😁

scott467

I’m beginning to suspect we may be trapped inside a planet-sized farce.

pgroup
grandmaintexas

Anything to keep this going, really.
Is it possible that the ‘asymptomatic’ people are really ‘presymptomatic’? Or, is there truly evidence to suggest that there are a million Typhoid Marys out there.
And how does this differ from a usual flu season as far as asymptomatic people spreading it?
One more thing. I think there is something going on behind the scenes. My sense from yesterday’s presser, is that there is something else they want to hit us with, and our President is using the pandemic to keep us safe. So, if this continual “news” coming out with this and that study to suggest this or that, then I’m okay with the way things are right now.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trust The Plan. It very likely includes stuff we have no idea about – YET.

grandmaintexas

Roger that, Wolf.

scott467

“Trust The Plan.”
______________
What is the plan?
We don’t know, so apparently our plan, our part in this farce, is to Trust the Planners.
So why didn’t they just call it that in the first place? 😂

prognosticatasaurusrex

WE ARE, instituted by BILL FREAKIN GATES. Cuomo of ALL people gave up the SOURCE of ALL the projections used to start and FEED this farce IHME, IE BILL GATES. The SAME exact scenario his conference MOCKED less than a couple months ago. That is WAAY to convenient. NO WAY that happens the odds are greater of being hit by a rock from Venus and killed. IE infinitesimal.

Deplorable Patriot

I noticed the trend a couple days ago. There’s something more going on than just wanting to stymie disease transmission, especially going into spring and summer.

scott467

“I noticed the trend a couple days ago. There’s something more going on than just wanting to stymie disease transmission, especially going into spring and summer.”
_____________
Agreed. Something for which it is beneficial to the population to be as dispersed as possible, indoors as much as possible, and definitely no large crowds.
The Chinese virus provided a plausible reason to do all of those things, and may actually be the primary reason, but by extending the ‘isolation behavior’ to May (or beyond), is it to protect against some other false flag waiting in the wings, and about which the administration knows is coming?
What other kind of attack by the Cabal would be well defended against by having the majority of the population ‘sheltering in place’?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Look who DEFINES chutzpah. AGAIN.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I am just so sick of these fucking communists. So sick.
THEY GIVE ME THE WILL TO LIVE, TO SEE THEM ALL DESTROYED.

pgroup

What if …
Schiff-for-brains is being allowed to do this in hope that somebody feels threatened enough to whack him? Whether the effort is successful or not, the deepstate proceeds to blame it on deplorables regardless of truth about it.
I doubt that Schitt is smart enough or talented enough to perform like he has been. His ‘ability’ to wiggle out of every fact conflict is simply beyond my suspend-disbelief ability to accept.
But no matter what is the truth, he is 100% a completely depraved human being. He doesn’t even have the decency to divorce; preferring to make his spouse wear his coat of disgrace.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I won’t rest until that traitor has faced JUSTICE. My lungs are scarred by that bastard’s evil hand, and I will haunt him into an early grave with me – only MY JUSTICE WILL HAVE THE PURITY OF THE LAW HE DISREGARDS AND DARES TO CORRUPT.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gail Combs

They want to be on the front lines then by all means, lets put Accosta and the rest IN a Contagious ward WITHOUT ANY EQUIPMENT for 48 hours….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Anybody thinking what I’m thinking?

NYGuy

We’re in the 4th year of the Trump presidency. Solomon didn’t mention that.

ladypenquin

I’ve thought the same thing – no one told POTUS about this issue. Looking at the bureaucratic, bean counter type people who essentially have to become political animals first, and scientists and doctors second in order to survive.
We often see the same situation in the military – the higher up one goes, the more you’re there because of politics, not necessarily because of talent. It’s why Obama did those military purges…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Don’t step on the hard backup plan.”

Coldeadhands

Run-up to 2020…

Deplorable Patriot

I’m trying not to go there, what you’re thinking.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SIXTEEN YEAR PLAN.

Deplorable Patriot

That’s NOT where I was going with it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Probably a different theory. I’ve got multiple hands in these cards!!!

ladypenquin

Even if this was not a planned released of the virus, Obama and his commie cohorts always had a negative view of sustaining human lives – except for their own. Everyone remembers the give grandma a blue pill – for “pain” instead of a pacemaker – despite the fact that grandma was active and enjoying life.
This connects to their pathological demand for abortions – having nothing to do with the alleged well-being of the mother, but everything to do with the power over life and death.
Abortionists essentially enjoy this work – they enjoy killing. Almost the perfect example of a psychopath. The Leftists in Congress hide these secret supplications of the heart – that’s why they’ve signed on to the radical agenda of the globalists/communists..
These people are Nazis. They have no value for human life – Obama simply intended to restructure society so that everyone would accept going quietly to their deaths. Leftist politicians and the Malignant Media expect to be in the Chosen Few group. It fits their insatiable need for POWER.
I do make a distinction regarding modern day Russia – while communistic, Putin is very nationalistic, pro Russian Church, and he isn’t interested in killing babies. A different type of communist philosophy exists there.

pgroup

I do not believe Putin was ever a “real” communist. IMO he mimicked one convincingly enough to rise within the Party but I really see no evidence today that he possesses any affinity/yearning for the rigidity of the commie bureaucracy of old.
Again IMO the way to politically rise in Russia today is to demonstrate nationalistic devotion to the concept of Russia as geographically entitled to influence world affairs and therefore devotion to the notion of Russia superiority (this also requires devotion to Putin personally). Putin seems to believe that if put to a vote, most bordering countries would choose to be part of a Russian Alliance (e.g., Crimea) and that the reason this task is difficult is because of the heavy-handed excesses of the Soviet Union being still fresh in the minds of many formerly subjugated people.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Russia and China will always be regional leaders and world players at a minimum. That is why WHO IS LEADING THEM MATTERS. Spreaders of evil will cause trouble for the world.

Teagan

All Obama certainly seemed to personal select the drone victims, if reports are correct. I guess vague “policies” that might not come into fruition until Hillary was in Office wasn’t’ satisfying.

coosmama

Red pill for today:
What if the FDA is requiring a positive COVID-19 test and hospitalization of the patient BEFORE the MD can prescribe the medicine combo, because if the MD treated based on symptoms as an outpatient and the test came back NEGATIVE it proves the combo works on other viruses like para-influenza. There would not be a need for the flu shot. That money dries up.

coosmama

Therapeutics
On March 28, 2020, FDA issued an EUA to allow hydroxychloroquine sulfate and chloroquine phosphate products donated to the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) to be distributed and used for certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19. These drugs will be distributed from the SNS to states for doctors to prescribe to adolescent and adult patients hospitalized with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible.

Alison

Well, thankfully our Sylvia got the meds and she was not hospitalized. Are you saying doctors are prohibited from prescribing it UNLESS the patient is an in-patient? That is absurd if FDA put that restriction on it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Absolutely it would be absurd to wait for hospitalization. In fact, if anybody is suggesting that, then TRUMP SHOULD FIRE THEM.
That’s like saying “wait for the fire to get to 4 alarms before sending anybody”. Ridiculous.
Zelenko’s CLINICAL EVIDENCE (and it don’t have to be no fuckin’ double-blind controlled study for THIS scientist to see the error bars) is that this stuff is most useful immediately.

coosmama

What POTUS is saying at the pressers, and what FDA + state level Dept of Health are doing, do not match up. Apparently, FDA is not listening to the POTUS pressers, and the states are “following FDA guidlines”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gonna have to keep pushing then. Time to make people RESPONSIBLE for not moving hydroxychloroquine to the FRONT LINES.

coosmama

Yes, that is the FDA guidline, and many states Dept of Health have HCQ on lockdown, snd will not re-supply pharmacies.

Alison

Understandable if supplies are an issue. But they better clarify that pretty damn fast!

Teagan

Please share what you are thinking for discussion.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think that depleting the stockpile and not replenishing it may well have been on somebody’s anti-American “to-do” list. At a minimum, the Boy Scout motto of “Be Prepared” is just HATED by the socialists. It’s almost reflexive training to hate certain ideas, and to rebel against them. Their DISDAIN for “preppers” is really cultural – grasshopper lifestyle vs. ant thinking. All very Luciferian in rebelliousness.
So it may have been mediated through Obama’s contempt for preparation, and his cunning, stealthy, depletion of American preparedness. OR there may have been specific instructions “not to replenish”, which would have been on the EXTREME down-low (as in whispered over golf).
I tend to think that Obama was much more in cahoots with China than people realized, and that it was covered up by a combination of Obama appearing to ignore China, and China appearing to disrespect Obama. “No cover like reality.”

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NYGuy

So people know, this is Rich Higgins’ group.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, wow. The man who spotted the red-green axis against Trump long before the pustule of THE SQUAD appeared.

NYGuy

In retrospect, the guy had a freakin crystal ball. I pay attention to his opinions. The guy has superior instincts.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. And that’s why they got McDupester to deep-six Higgins.
I would LOVE to know how McMaster was influenced to take Higgins out. Gotta be classic Obama holdover bad influence, IMO.

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NYGuy

Data rules. Opinions without data can be skewed
https://twitter.com/adamscrabble/status/1245378516721549322?s=20

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This stuff is a wounder that takes 10 sure years off one’s life. Somebody doesn’t have 10 sure years, they’re not walking away. That 102-year-old guy is a miracle.
I smoked for 17 years 32 years ago. That was enough to almost kill me. My wife smoked a fraction of what I did, and came through it much better, despite being older.

NYGuy

I hope you can live a normal life as much as possible. I am sorry you had to go through that.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks, Ed. I wish I knew how this was going to end up. I wish most of all that I knew I was virus-free.
Maybe it’s time to go looking for testing, even though I’m probably negative to the current virus test. I can try to cough up a deep lung sample for them first, maybe. 😉

Alison

Wolfie, can you try to schedule an appointment with a pulmonologist – even if they are currently swamped, they are most likely scheduling for a month or two from now. If nothing else, it gives you a date to feel like sOMETHING on your horizon is hopeful. Tell them you cannot breathe – because you can’t !!!!

NYGuy

What’s your take on Chris Cuomo? I saw a video of him that Citizen Free Press linked. He did not look sick at all. Is it possible for him to have the symptoms he said he had and still look that good?

bakocarl

There are 4 coronaviruses that are common around the world that may result in no symptoms or mild to moderate symptoms. The coronavirus test, if what I read is correct, is non-specific and general with respect to the detection of coronaviruses. He may have had one of those 4.

NYGuy

Thanks Carl. The reason I asked is Cuomo said he had some very vicious symptoms the night before yet he appeared relatively normal on his show.

Gail Combs

Better picture of that chart for people who are 1/2 blind like me.comment image

Sadie Slays

I just remembered that Central Park has a massive tunnel system. What are the odds that the “temporary hospital” is located on or near the entrance to this?comment image
https://gizmodo.com/an-artificial-cave-200-beneath-central-park-with-micha-1446538828

Deplorable Patriot

That’s a sucker bet.

Aubergine

This is one of the creepiest things I have ever seen. God help us.

Teagan

Seattle does, too.

Alison

But the article itself was dated 2018 and I remember reading it back then.

Alison

I’m honestly seeking answers.
Can someone explain why these underground sites are suddenly being promoted as an ‘aha the storm is here’ indication, and why I’m suddenly hearing that millions of children are going to be rescued? Are children being stored somewhere? For what purpose?
Everything I’ve understood about human trafficking is that it is MOVEMENT, not storage. They are moved in or out of countries, states, cities and into slavery (workplaces) or sex trade (working the streets or joints). Why would they be stored as inventory or for some other reason??
The present, growing implication is millions will be saved who are starved or so close to death they need these huge temporary hospitals. Why are millions being held in such near death condition? Who benefits from that? I thought the adrenochrome came from aborted fetuses so that’s not the reason. If it’s for organ transplants, wouldn’t the ‘inventory’ be shipped to China, or are millions of illicit transplants occurring here? If held fir transplant organs, wouldn’t they be held in tiptop shape instead of starving?
I cannot listen to the numerous videos that are posted (the music and shouting and time it takes to get to the meat of videos is a real time suck) – I would really like to READ some credible source that explains why I should believe any of this.
I am aware that MANY pedos and porn traffickers have been arrested lately. But the millions of kids in underground caves about to be rescued???

pgroup

Alison, great efforts are being made to get a suffciently large number of people to forget how or why to ask the questions you just asked.
This entire adrenochrome theory is intended to distract and entrance – a shiny object. IMO of course. But there is literally zero empirical evidence to support it yet it keeps getting repeated as if it is a “settled” truth. Another “settled” issue is human-caused global climate change.
Keep asking impudent questions – at least you’ll annoy the enemy.

pgroup

entrance s/b enchant

TheseTruths

I do not have answers. I have not gotten the impression that people thought children/people were being held en masse in bunkers. I agree with you that the idea of trafficking is to move them from place to place, not to house them for a time. My guess is that if they use places like underground bunkers, it would be as a temporary waystation on the journey to somewhere else or even as a place to separate people out and decide where they should be sent. But I have nothing to back up these assumptions.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Glad somebody is calling out the PARALLEL DISTRACTO used to DISCREDIT.
Yes, there is a pedo underground. It’s not always a LITERAL underground, although many times it is (read the actual crime details – basements, cellars, etc. – very common). Tales of kids and women trapped in basements are real. So what is the cabal going to push? WRONG UNDERGROUND TO DISCREDIT.
This is exactly how these caballies cover up the crimes. Create parallel straw men and burn them, along with anybody who gloms onto them.
I watched how the Clinton / Brock operatives did this when the Hillary laptop surfaced in the middle of the Podesta emails. The child-sex Dems were DEATHLY AFRAID of what might be on there. I watched the researchers being LED, PUSHED, and SUCKERED into incredulity by political operatives. Tales of massive blood orgies, suspicion on every person who ever ate a pizza of any kind, disinformation of all kinds, and other things were used to distract away from simple truths like cabal symbols that truly give away these people to each other (and to us, if we pay attention).
What this does is leave people RIGHT IN PRINCIPLE (very frustrating) but WRONG IN SPECIFICS.
Find the REAL KIDS. Find the REAL PEDOS. Find the REAL EVIDENCE. Make it STICK.
It’s like the Chi-Com and CIA fake conservatives appearing as “bat soup” pushers now, only they are trying to deflect to cultural stereotypes – one of the ChiComs’ FAVORITE tricks.
FUCK THE CHICOMS. LOVE THE CHINESE PEOPLE. HATE THE CHICOMS.
Same principle here of STAYING ON THE HUNT while IGNORING THE MISLEADS. PURSUE THE REAL PEDOS AND CABAL HARD. IGNORE THEIR ATTEMPTS TO THROW US OFF.
One of the main reasons they are doing this now is to PROTECT THE CCP. Think about it. The CCP goes down, the TRAITORS go with them.

Alison

Thank you all who responded!! So I will continue to rejoice when DOJ or locals announce arrests and indictments but stop fretting about why I don’t understand what a number or symbol means and why the pending “It’s HERE!!!” never … quite… has… the promised crescendo.
I’ve never felt like “nothing’s happening” because a lot of enormous positive changes have occurred under President Trump. I’ve just reached the point – these underground caves and millions will be rescued exhortations – where I am not buying the hidden messages. I think the temporary hospitals etc. are to prepare for a surge in the virus infecteds. If they turn out to be for millions of saved children, I will celebrate; but I’m not spending my energy following that rabbit hole.

Sadie Slays

Just to clarify something for everyone, I was literally at my bathroom sink brushing my teeth when I suddenly remembered the Central Park tunnel and decided to post it here and at /qresearch/. I thought it was odd that in the past 24 hours, we had news of a temporary hospital in Central Park, then a picture of a “patient” in the same hospital wearing a red cabal ring, and then I remembered a story from years ago about the Central Park tunnels. That’s all. People are acting like it’s some disinformation campaign when, at least in my case, it was only a Shower Thought. I don’t know if there are children being rescued, if elites are hiding out trying to evade arrest, if it’s a staging ground for a military operation, or if it’s all merely a coincidence, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
But as for why they might keep children alive and in poor health? Traumatizing children is part of Satanic Ritual Abuse. Here’s a government document (.pdf) about it if you care to read the horrifying details:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Photocopy/140554NCJRS.pdf

Sadie Slays

I’m not sure why this automatically embedded, but here’s the link I tried to post above (I added two spaces before “gov” to intentionally break the link so that it wouldn’t embed).
https://www.ncjrs. gov/pdffiles1/Photocopy/140554NCJRS.pdf
Here’s the publication details:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=140554

para59r

From abstract click PDF in mid of document to open in a separate window and or save

GA/FL

People are suffering and dying because of Democrat leadership and PC.

Dora

smiley2

Part 2 : the rioting

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

All I can say is that in my area, “that’s not who we are”. And we will not appreciate such behavior in our midst. I’m volunteering for Korean grocery store roof duty right now! 😎

GA/FL

Jazz great Ellis Marsalis succumbs to Coronavirus complications:

Deplorable Patriot

In the right age group. Sad. Very sad.

smiley2

R.I.P.
one of the greats.

smiley2

jazz fans…released 1996…

Gail Combs

NEEDLESS, If he had gotten treatment early.
You can lay his death at the feet of people like Nasty Nancy Messonnier and Tony Fauci.

Valerie Curren

For some reason this comment wouldn’t post at yesterday’s CV thread, so will try here… conversation found here if anyone wants more details…Perhaps there are too many links within so it will need to get out of jail free!
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/20200401-coronacrisis-china-virus-daily-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-449133
I found it!!! 2008-2009 Flu Season data hidden…
“2007-2008 & 2008-2009 seasons on display could also be instructive too to see if similar patterns were presenting in the lead up to BHO’s usurpation, especially because Hillary was an electoral factor up until Barry was “anointed” to be the dem’s candidate…” from my prior comment
I had to get into the Internet Archive to find data on 2008-2009 at this site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20111015082635/http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5814a4.htm
Here this page is in its entirety, in case there is something important there:
Update: Influenza Activity — United States, September 28, 2008–April 4, 2009, and Composition of the 2009–10 Influenza Vaccine
This report summarizes U.S. influenza activity* from September 28, 2008, the start of the 2008–09 influenza season, through April 4, 2009, and reports on the 2009–10 influenza vaccine strain selection. Low levels of influenza activity were reported from October through early January. Activity increased from mid-January and peaked in mid-February. Influenza A (H1N1) viruses have predominated overall this season, but influenza B viruses have been isolated more frequently than influenza A viruses since mid-March. Widespread oseltamivir resistance was detected among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses and a high level of adamantane resistance was identified among influenza A (H3N2) viruses.
Viral Surveillance
From September 28, 2008, to April 4, 2009, World Health Organization (WHO) and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System (NREVSS) collaborating laboratories in the United States tested 173,397 respiratory specimens for influenza viruses, 24,793 (14.3%) of which were positive (Figure 1). Of these, 16,686 (67.3%) were positive for influenza A viruses, and 8,107 (32.7%) were positive for influenza B viruses. Of the 16,686 specimens positive for influenza A viruses, 6,735 (40.4%) were subtyped by real-time reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction or by virus culture; 6,049 (89.8%) of these were influenza A (H1N1) viruses, and 686 (10.2%) were influenza A (H3N2) viruses. The percentage of specimens testing positive for influenza first exceeded the seasonal threshold of 10% during the week ending January 17, 2009, and peaked at 25.0% during the week ending February 14, 2009. For the week ending April 4, 2009, 12.3% of specimens tested for influenza were positive. The relative proportion of influenza B viruses increased during February and March, and since the week ending March 14, 2009, >50% of the positive influenza specimens have been influenza B.
Antigenic Characterization
WHO collaborating laboratories in the United States are requested to submit a subset of their influenza virus isolates to CDC for further antigenic characterization. CDC has antigenically characterized 945 influenza viruses collected by U.S. laboratories during the 2008–09 season, including 594 influenza A (H1N1), 88 influenza A (H3N2), and 263 influenza B viruses. All 594 influenza A (H1N1) viruses are related to the influenza A (H1N1) component of the 2008–09 influenza vaccine (A/Brisbane/59/2007). All 88 influenza A (H3N2) viruses are related to the influenza A (H3N2) vaccine component (A/Brisbane/10/2007). Influenza B viruses currently circulating can be divided into two distinct lineages represented by the B/Yamagata/16/88 and B/Victoria/02/87 viruses. Among the 263 influenza B viruses tested, 50 (19.0%) belong to the B/Yamagata lineage and are related to the vaccine strain (B/Florida/04/2006); the remaining 213 (81.0%) belong to the B/Victoria lineage and are not related to the vaccine strain.
Composition of the 2009–10 Influenza Vaccine
WHO recommended that the 2009–10 Northern Hemisphere trivalent influenza vaccine contain A/Brisbane/59/2007-like (H1N1), A/Brisbane/10/2007-like (H3N2), and B/Brisbane/60/2008-like (B/Victoria lineage) viruses. The Food and Drug Administration’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee recommended these same vaccine strains be included in the 2009–10 influenza vaccine for the United States (1). Only the influenza B component represents a change from the 2008–09 vaccine formulation. These recommendations were based on antigenic and genetic analyses of recently isolated influenza viruses, epidemiologic data, post-vaccination serologic studies in humans, and the availability of candidate vaccine strains and reagents.
Antiviral Resistance of Influenza Virus Isolates
CDC conducts surveillance for resistance of circulating influenza viruses to licensed influenza antiviral medications: adamantanes (amantadine and rimantadine) and neuraminidase inhibitors (zanamivir and oseltamivir). Since October 1, 2008, of the 699 influenza A (H1N1) viruses from 44 states tested for neuraminidase inhibitor resistance, 694 (99.3%) were resistant to oseltamivir; all were sensitive to zanamivir (Table). All 103 influenza A (H3N2) and all 274 influenza B viruses tested were sensitive to oseltamivir and zanamivir. Three influenza A (H1N1) viruses (0.4%) and all 100 (100%) influenza A (H3N2) viruses tested were resistant to adamantanes (amantadine and rimantadine). The adamantanes are not effective against influenza B viruses. None of the influenza A (H1N1) viruses tested were resistant to both oseltamivir and adamantanes.
Novel Influenza A Viruses
A case of human infection with a novel influenza A virus was reported by the Iowa Department of Public Health during the week ending February 28, 2009. A male aged 3 years was infected with a swine influenza A (H1N1) virus. An investigation revealed that the child had close contact with ill pigs. The child has fully recovered from the illness, and no additional cases were identified among the child’s contacts or other persons exposed to the ill pigs. This is the third human infection with swine influenza virus identified in the United States this influenza season. None of the cases were related to occupation. The other two human infections with swine influenza identified during the 2008–09 influenza season occurred in a person aged 14 years from Texas and a person aged 19 years from South Dakota (2,3).
State-Specific Activity Levels
During the week ending April 4, 2009, widespread influenza activity† was reported by four states (Alabama, New York, Virginia, and Washington). Regional influenza activity was reported by 18 states (Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Kentucky, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Tennessee). Local influenza activity was reported by 20 states, sporadic activity was reported by the District of Columbia and seven states, and one state did not report Regional influenza activity was reported for the first time this season during the week ending December 20, 2008 (by Massachusetts and New Jersey), and widespread activity was reported for the first time during the week ending January 10, 2009 (by Virginia). To date this season, regional or widespread influenza activity has been reported during at least 1 week by 49 states.
Outpatient Illness Surveillance
Since September 28, 2008, the weekly percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness (ILI)§ reported by approximately 1,500 U.S. health-care providers in 50 states, New York City, Chicago, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. Virgin Islands that comprise the U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network (ILINet), has ranged from 0.9% during the week ending October 4, 2008, to 3.7% for the week ending February 14, 2009. For the week ending April 4, 2009, the weekly percentage of outpatient visits for ILI was 1.6% (Figure 2). This is below the national baseline of 2.4%.¶ One of the nine surveillance regions (Mountain) reported an ILI percentage above its region-specific baseline.
Pneumonia- and Influenza-Related Mortality
For the week ending April 4, 2009, pneumonia and influenza was reported as an underlying or contributing cause of death for 7.4% of all deaths reported through the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System. This is below the epidemic threshold of 7.8% for that week. Since September 28, 2008, the weekly percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza ranged from 6.1% to 7.6%, and remained below the epidemic threshold.**
Influenza-Associated Hospitalizations
Hospitalizations associated with laboratory-confirmed influenza infections are monitored by two population-based surveillance networks, the New Vaccine Surveillance Network (NVSN) and the Emerging Infections Program (EIP).†† From October 12, 2008, to March 21, 2009, the preliminary laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalization rate for children aged 0–4 years in the NVSN was 1.46 per 10,000.
From October 1, 2008, to March 28, 2009, preliminary rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalization reported by the EIP for children aged 0–4 years and 5–17 years were 2.8 and 0.5 per 10,000, respectively (Figure 3). For adults aged 18–49 years, 50–64 years, and ≥65 years, the rates were 0.3, 0.4, and 1.0 per 10,000, respectively. Differences in the rate estimates between the NVSN and the EIP systems likely result from the different case-finding methods and the different populations monitored.
Influenza-Associated Pediatric Mortality
Since September 28, 2008, CDC has received 45 reports of influenza-associated pediatric deaths that occurred during the current season. Of the 27 decedents who had specimens collected for bacterial culture from normally sterile sites, 12 (44.4%) were positive; Staphylococcus aureus was identified in eight of the 12 children. Three of the S. aureus isolates were sensitive to methicillin, and five were methicillin resistant. Among the 12 children with bacterial coinfections, all were aged ≥5 years, and 10 (83.3%) were aged ≥12 years. An increase in the number of influenza-associated pediatric deaths with S. aureus coinfections was first recognized during the 2006–07 influenza season (4).
Of the 36 decedents aged >6 months for whom patient vaccination status was known, five (13.9%) had been vaccinated against influenza according to 2008 Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommendations (5). These data are provisional and subject to change as more information becomes available.
Reported by: WHO Collaborating Center for Surveillance, Epidemiology, and Control of Influenza. P Peebles, L Brammer, MPH, S Epperson, MPH, L Blanton, MPH, R Dhara, MPH, T Wallis, MS, L Finelli, DrPH, L Gubareva, PhD, J Bresee, MD, A Klimov, PhD, N Cox, PhD, Influenza Div, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, CDC.
Editorial Note:
From September 28, 2008, through early January 2009, the United States experienced low levels of influenza activity. Activity increased in mid-January, peaked in mid-February, and remained high until mid-March. Since mid-March, influenza levels have been decreasing nationally.
Preliminary data from the U.S. virologic surveillance networks (WHO and NREVSS collaborating laboratories), the percentage of deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza, and the percentage of outpatient visits for ILI suggest that this season has been less severe than the 2007–08 season and is more similar to the 2005–06 and 2006–07 seasons. The percentage of specimens tested for influenza that were positive peaked at 25.0% during the week ending February 14, 2009, compared with 31.6% in 2007–08, 27.7% in 2006–07, and 22.6% in 2005–06. To date during this season, the percentage of deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza peaked at 7.6% and has not exceeded the epidemic threshold. By comparison, pneumonia and influenza mortality peaked at 9.1%, 7.9%, and 7.8% during the 2007–08, 2006–07, and 2005–06 seasons, respectively. The epidemic threshold for pneumonia and influenza deaths was exceeded for 9 consecutive weeks during the 2007–08 season and for only 1 week during both the 2005–06 and 2006–07 seasons. The percentage of outpatient visits for ILI peaked at 3.7% this season, compared with 6.0% in 2007–08, 3.6% in 2006–07, and 3.1% in 2005–06.
During this influenza season, a high level of resistance to the antiviral drug oseltamivir was detected among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses. Since October 1, 2008, 99.3% of influenza A (H1N1) viruses tested were resistant to oseltamivir. To date, influenza A has accounted for 67.3% of all influenza viruses identified, and influenza A (H1N1) has accounted for 89.8% of the influenza A viruses that were subtyped. No oseltamivir resistance has been detected among influenza A (H3N2) or B viruses currently circulating in the United States; however, all the influenza A (H3N2) viruses tested were resistant to adamantanes. The adamantanes are not effective against influenza B viruses. None of the influenza A (H1N1) viruses tested were resistant to both oseltamivir and the adamantanes, and all influenza viruses tested this season have been susceptible to zanamivir. CDC issued interim guidelines for the use of influenza antiviral medications on December 19, 2008. Health-care providers should review their local surveillance data if available to determine which types (A or B) and subtypes of influenza A (H1N1 or H3N2) are most prominent in their community and consider using diagnostic tests to distinguish influenza A from influenza B. When an influenza A (H1N1) virus infection or exposure is suspected, zanamivir is the preferred medication; combination therapy of oseltamivir and rimantidine is an acceptable alternative (6).
Since early February, the relative proportion of influenza B viruses has been increasing each week, and more than half of influenza viruses identified since the week ending March 14, 2009, were influenza B. Approximately 80% of influenza B viruses tested have not been related to the influenza B vaccine strain. However, all influenza B viruses this season have been susceptible to oseltamivir and zanamivir. Health-care providers should be aware of these recent increases in influenza B viruses and of the differences in antiviral resistance patterns compared with influenza A (H1N1) viruses. When an influenza B infection or exposure is detected, treatment with oseltamivir or zanamivir is recommended. However, when the type or subtype is unknown, zanamivir is the preferred medication; combination therapy of oseltamivir and rimantidine also is acceptable (6).
To date this season, the cumulative laboratory-confirmed, influenza-associated hospitalization rate reported by EIP among persons aged ≥50 years has been lower than rates reported for the previous three seasons, but most similar to the 2006–07 season. Historically, excess mortality has been lower in seasons during which influenza A (H1N1) or influenza B predominated than during seasons in which influenza A (H3N2) has predominated (7). During the current and 2006–07 seasons, influenza A (H1N1) has been the prominent virus subtype circulating, which could partly explain the lower influenza-associated hospitalization rates among persons aged ≥50 years observed during these two seasons.
Vaccination remains the best method for preventing influenza virus infection and its complications. Influenza vaccination can prevent influenza infections from strains that are sensitive or resistant to antiviral medications. Thus far this season, all the influenza A viruses that have been characterized, including oseltamivir-resistant (H1N1) viruses, are antigenically related to the components in the vaccine. However, approximately 80% of influenza B viruses tested are from a distinct lineage that is not related to the vaccine strain. Limited or no protection is expected when the vaccine and circulating virus strains are from different lineages (8,9). The composition of the 2009–10 influenza vaccine includes the same influenza A (H1N1 and H3N2) components, and a change in the influenza B component from the Yamagata to the Victoria lineage.
Influenza surveillance reports for the United States are posted weekly online at http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/flu
activity.htm during the influenza season from October to mid-May. Additional information regarding influenza viruses, influenza surveillance, the influenza vaccine, and avian influenza is available at http://www.cdc.gov/flu.
Acknowledgments
This report is based, in part, on data contributed by participating state and territorial health departments and state public health laboratories, World Health Organization collaborating laboratories, National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, the U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network, the Emerging Infections Program, the New Vaccine Surveillance Network, the Influenza Associated Pediatric Mortality Surveillance System, and the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System.
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CDC. Influenza activity—United States and worldwide, September 28–November 29, 2008. MMWR 2008;57:1329–32.
CDC. Influenza activity—United States, September 28, 2008–January 31, 2009. MMWR 2009;58:115–9.
Finelli L, Fiore A, Dhara R, et al. Influenza-associated pediatric mortality in the United States: increase of Staphylococcus aureus coinfection. Pediatrics 2008;122:805–11.
CDC. Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), 2008. MMWR 2008;57(No. RR-7).
CDC. CDC issues interim recommendations for the use of influenza antiviral medications in the setting of oseltamivir resistance among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses, 2008–09 influenza season. Atlanta, GA: US Department of Health and human services, CDC; 2008. Available at http://www2a.cdc.gov/han/archivesys/viewmsgv.asp?alertnum=00279.
Thompson WW, Shay DK, Weintraub E, et al. Mortality associated with influenza and respiratory syncytial virus in the United States. JAMA 2003;289:179–86.
Belongia E, Kieke B, Donahue J, et al. Effectiveness of inactivated influenza vaccines varied substantially with antigenic match from the 2004–2005 season to the 2006–2007 season. J Infect Dis 2009;199:159–67.
Skowronski D, De Serres G, Dickinson J, et al. Component-specific effectiveness of trivalent influenza vaccine as monitored through a sentinel surveillance network in Canada, 2006–2007. J Infect Dis 2009;199:168–79.
* The CDC influenza surveillance system collects five categories of information from nine data sources: 1) viral surveillance (World Health Organization collaborating U.S. laboratories, the National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System, and novel influenza A virus case reporting), 2) outpatient illness surveillance (U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network), 3) mortality (122 Cities Mortality Reporting System and influenza-associated pediatric mortality reports), 4) hospitalizations (Emerging Infections Program and New Vaccine Surveillance Network), and 5) summary of geographic spread of influenza (state and territorial epidemiologist reports).
† Levels of activity are 1) no activity; 2) sporadic: isolated laboratory-confirmed influenza cases or a laboratory-confirmed outbreak in one institution, with no increase in influenza-like illness (ILI) activity; 3) local: increased ILI, or at least two institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in one region with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in that region; virus activity no greater than sporadic in other regions; 4) regional: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least two but less than half of the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in those regions; and 5) widespread: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least half the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in the state.
§ Defined as a temperature of ≥100.0°F (≥37.8°C), oral or equivalent, and cough and/or sore throat, in the absence of a known cause other than influenza.
¶ The national and regional baselines are the mean percentage of visits for ILI during noninfluenza weeks for the previous three seasons plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza week is a week during which <10% of specimens tested positive for influenza. National and regional percentages of patient visits for ILI are weighted on the basis of state population. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
** The seasonal baseline proportion of pneumonia and influenza deaths is projected using a robust regression procedure in which a periodic regression model is applied to the observed percentage of deaths from pneumonia and influenza that were reported by the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System during the preceding 5 years. The epidemic threshold is 1.645 standard deviations above the seasonal baseline.
†† NVSN conducts surveillance in Monroe County, New York; Hamilton County, Ohio; and Davidson County, Tennessee. NVSN provides population-based estimates of laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalization rates in children aged <5 years admitted to NVSN hospitals with fever or respiratory symptoms. Children are prospectively enrolled, and respiratory samples are collected and tested by viral culture and reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR). EIP currently conducts surveillance for laboratory-confirmed, influenza-related hospitalizations in 61 counties and Baltimore, Maryland. The EIP catchment area includes 13 metropolitan areas: San Francisco, California; Denver, Colorado; New Haven, Connecticut; Atlanta, Georgia; Baltimore, Maryland; Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota; Albuquerque, New Mexico; Las Cruces, New Mexico; Santa Fe, New Mexico; Albany, New York; Rochester, New York; Portland, Oregon; and Nashville, Tennessee. Hospital laboratory, admission, and discharge databases, and infection-control logs are reviewed to identify persons with a positive influenza test (i.e., viral culture, direct fluorescent antibody assays, RT-PCR, serology, or a commercial rapid antigen test) from testing conducted as part of their routine care.
FIGURE 1. Number (N = 24,793) and percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza reported by World Health Organization and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, by type, and surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009comment image
Number (N = 24,793) and percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza reported by World Health Organization and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, by type, and surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009
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TABLE. Number and percentage of influenza viruses tested for resistance to influenza antiviral medications, by virus type — United States, October 1, 2008–April 4, 2009
Virus
No. of isolates tested
Resistant to oseltamivir*
No. of isolates tested
Resistant to adamantanes
No.
(%)
No.
(%)
Influenza A (H1N1)
699
694
(99.3)
683
3
(0.4)
Influenza A (H3N2)
103
(0)
100
100
(100)
Influenza B
274
(0)
-†


* None of the tested isolates were resistant to zanamivir.
† The adamantanes (amantadine and rimantadine) are not effective against influenza B viruses.
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FIGURE 2. Percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported by U.S. Outpatient Influenza-like Illness Surveillance Network (ILINet), by surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009 and 2006-07 and 2007-08 influenza seasonscomment image
Percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported by U.S. Outpatient Influenza-like Illness Surveillance Network (ILINet), by surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009 and 2006-07 and 2007-08 influenza seasons
* The 2006-07 and 2007-08 seasons did not have a week 53; therefore the week 53 data point for those seasons is an average of weeks 52 and 1.
† The national and regional baselines are the mean percentage of visits for ILI during noninfluenza weeks for the previous three seasons plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza week is a week during which <10% of specimens tested positive for influenza. National and regional percentages of patient visits for ILI are weighted on the basis of state population. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
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FIGURE 3. Cumulative laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalization rates,* by age group† and surveillance week – Emerging Infections Program, United States, October 1, 2008-March 28, 2009, and preceding three influenza seasons
Cumulative laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalization rates,* by age group† and surveillance week – Emerging Infections Program, United States, October 1, 2008-March 28, 2009, and preceding three influenza seasonscomment image
* Per 10,000 population.
† Scales differ among age groups.
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I wonder if part of why this particular season was hidden was because of the final chart showing multiple seasons in comparison…
The 2008-2009 flu season data was still available here, but there were no Q & As, unlike every other year accessible from this page:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160414192006/http://www.cdc.gov:80/flu/pastseasons/
This link discusses 2009-2010 flu season & refers to the previous season
https://web.archive.org/web/20150207121642/http://www.cdc.gov/flu/pastseasons/0910season.htm
This one has data about the 2009 H1N1 PANDEMIC…
https://web.archive.org/web/20150206004704/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
This represents the last capture of that page before its 8-1810 update:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100715010537/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
Here are images of the H1N1 virus that bears remarkable similarity, in certain respects to the coronavirus
https://web.archive.org/web/20100715140242/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/images.htm
Numerous reports here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100803093548/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/pubs/
lots of pandemic info for H1N1 here
https://web.archive.org/web/20100803093701/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/related_links.htm
The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: Summary Highlights, April 2009-April 2010
https://web.archive.org/web/20100715132743/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm
well, I'm running out of gas so will let this stand "as is" forgive my feet of clay please…Blessings!

Valerie Curren

Part 1 of something the CDC seems to want hidden…
For some reason this comment wouldn’t post at yesterday’s CV thread, so will try here… conversation found here if anyone wants more details…Perhaps there are too many links within so it will need to get out of jail free!
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/20200401-coronacrisis-china-virus-daily-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-449133
I found it!!! 2008-2009 Flu Season data hidden…
“2007-2008 & 2008-2009 seasons on display could also be instructive too to see if similar patterns were presenting in the lead up to BHO’s usurpation, especially because Hillary was an electoral factor up until Barry was “anointed” to be the dem’s candidate…” from my prior comment
I had to get into the Internet Archive to find data on 2008-2009 at this site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20111015082635/http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5814a4.htm
Here this page is in its entirety, in case there is something important there:
Update: Influenza Activity — United States, September 28, 2008–April 4, 2009, and Composition of the 2009–10 Influenza Vaccine
This report summarizes U.S. influenza activity* from September 28, 2008, the start of the 2008–09 influenza season, through April 4, 2009, and reports on the 2009–10 influenza vaccine strain selection. Low levels of influenza activity were reported from October through early January. Activity increased from mid-January and peaked in mid-February. Influenza A (H1N1) viruses have predominated overall this season, but influenza B viruses have been isolated more frequently than influenza A viruses since mid-March. Widespread oseltamivir resistance was detected among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses and a high level of adamantane resistance was identified among influenza A (H3N2) viruses.
Viral Surveillance
From September 28, 2008, to April 4, 2009, World Health Organization (WHO) and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System (NREVSS) collaborating laboratories in the United States tested 173,397 respiratory specimens for influenza viruses, 24,793 (14.3%) of which were positive (Figure 1). Of these, 16,686 (67.3%) were positive for influenza A viruses, and 8,107 (32.7%) were positive for influenza B viruses. Of the 16,686 specimens positive for influenza A viruses, 6,735 (40.4%) were subtyped by real-time reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction or by virus culture; 6,049 (89.8%) of these were influenza A (H1N1) viruses, and 686 (10.2%) were influenza A (H3N2) viruses. The percentage of specimens testing positive for influenza first exceeded the seasonal threshold of 10% during the week ending January 17, 2009, and peaked at 25.0% during the week ending February 14, 2009. For the week ending April 4, 2009, 12.3% of specimens tested for influenza were positive. The relative proportion of influenza B viruses increased during February and March, and since the week ending March 14, 2009, >50% of the positive influenza specimens have been influenza B.
Antigenic Characterization
WHO collaborating laboratories in the United States are requested to submit a subset of their influenza virus isolates to CDC for further antigenic characterization. CDC has antigenically characterized 945 influenza viruses collected by U.S. laboratories during the 2008–09 season, including 594 influenza A (H1N1), 88 influenza A (H3N2), and 263 influenza B viruses. All 594 influenza A (H1N1) viruses are related to the influenza A (H1N1) component of the 2008–09 influenza vaccine (A/Brisbane/59/2007). All 88 influenza A (H3N2) viruses are related to the influenza A (H3N2) vaccine component (A/Brisbane/10/2007). Influenza B viruses currently circulating can be divided into two distinct lineages represented by the B/Yamagata/16/88 and B/Victoria/02/87 viruses. Among the 263 influenza B viruses tested, 50 (19.0%) belong to the B/Yamagata lineage and are related to the vaccine strain (B/Florida/04/2006); the remaining 213 (81.0%) belong to the B/Victoria lineage and are not related to the vaccine strain.
Composition of the 2009–10 Influenza Vaccine
WHO recommended that the 2009–10 Northern Hemisphere trivalent influenza vaccine contain A/Brisbane/59/2007-like (H1N1), A/Brisbane/10/2007-like (H3N2), and B/Brisbane/60/2008-like (B/Victoria lineage) viruses. The Food and Drug Administration’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee recommended these same vaccine strains be included in the 2009–10 influenza vaccine for the United States (1). Only the influenza B component represents a change from the 2008–09 vaccine formulation. These recommendations were based on antigenic and genetic analyses of recently isolated influenza viruses, epidemiologic data, post-vaccination serologic studies in humans, and the availability of candidate vaccine strains and reagents.
Antiviral Resistance of Influenza Virus Isolates
CDC conducts surveillance for resistance of circulating influenza viruses to licensed influenza antiviral medications: adamantanes (amantadine and rimantadine) and neuraminidase inhibitors (zanamivir and oseltamivir). Since October 1, 2008, of the 699 influenza A (H1N1) viruses from 44 states tested for neuraminidase inhibitor resistance, 694 (99.3%) were resistant to oseltamivir; all were sensitive to zanamivir (Table). All 103 influenza A (H3N2) and all 274 influenza B viruses tested were sensitive to oseltamivir and zanamivir. Three influenza A (H1N1) viruses (0.4%) and all 100 (100%) influenza A (H3N2) viruses tested were resistant to adamantanes (amantadine and rimantadine). The adamantanes are not effective against influenza B viruses. None of the influenza A (H1N1) viruses tested were resistant to both oseltamivir and adamantanes.
Novel Influenza A Viruses
A case of human infection with a novel influenza A virus was reported by the Iowa Department of Public Health during the week ending February 28, 2009. A male aged 3 years was infected with a swine influenza A (H1N1) virus. An investigation revealed that the child had close contact with ill pigs. The child has fully recovered from the illness, and no additional cases were identified among the child’s contacts or other persons exposed to the ill pigs. This is the third human infection with swine influenza virus identified in the United States this influenza season. None of the cases were related to occupation. The other two human infections with swine influenza identified during the 2008–09 influenza season occurred in a person aged 14 years from Texas and a person aged 19 years from South Dakota (2,3).
State-Specific Activity Levels
During the week ending April 4, 2009, widespread influenza activity† was reported by four states (Alabama, New York, Virginia, and Washington). Regional influenza activity was reported by 18 states (Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Kentucky, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Tennessee). Local influenza activity was reported by 20 states, sporadic activity was reported by the District of Columbia and seven states, and one state did not report Regional influenza activity was reported for the first time this season during the week ending December 20, 2008 (by Massachusetts and New Jersey), and widespread activity was reported for the first time during the week ending January 10, 2009 (by Virginia). To date this season, regional or widespread influenza activity has been reported during at least 1 week by 49 states.
Outpatient Illness Surveillance
Since September 28, 2008, the weekly percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness (ILI)§ reported by approximately 1,500 U.S. health-care providers in 50 states, New York City, Chicago, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. Virgin Islands that comprise the U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network (ILINet), has ranged from 0.9% during the week ending October 4, 2008, to 3.7% for the week ending February 14, 2009. For the week ending April 4, 2009, the weekly percentage of outpatient visits for ILI was 1.6% (Figure 2). This is below the national baseline of 2.4%.¶ One of the nine surveillance regions (Mountain) reported an ILI percentage above its region-specific baseline.
Pneumonia- and Influenza-Related Mortality
For the week ending April 4, 2009, pneumonia and influenza was reported as an underlying or contributing cause of death for 7.4% of all deaths reported through the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System. This is below the epidemic threshold of 7.8% for that week. Since September 28, 2008, the weekly percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza ranged from 6.1% to 7.6%, and remained below the epidemic threshold.**
Influenza-Associated Hospitalizations
Hospitalizations associated with laboratory-confirmed influenza infections are monitored by two population-based surveillance networks, the New Vaccine Surveillance Network (NVSN) and the Emerging Infections Program (EIP).†† From October 12, 2008, to March 21, 2009, the preliminary laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalization rate for children aged 0–4 years in the NVSN was 1.46 per 10,000.
From October 1, 2008, to March 28, 2009, preliminary rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalization reported by the EIP for children aged 0–4 years and 5–17 years were 2.8 and 0.5 per 10,000, respectively (Figure 3). For adults aged 18–49 years, 50–64 years, and ≥65 years, the rates were 0.3, 0.4, and 1.0 per 10,000, respectively. Differences in the rate estimates between the NVSN and the EIP systems likely result from the different case-finding methods and the different populations monitored.
Influenza-Associated Pediatric Mortality
Since September 28, 2008, CDC has received 45 reports of influenza-associated pediatric deaths that occurred during the current season. Of the 27 decedents who had specimens collected for bacterial culture from normally sterile sites, 12 (44.4%) were positive; Staphylococcus aureus was identified in eight of the 12 children. Three of the S. aureus isolates were sensitive to methicillin, and five were methicillin resistant. Among the 12 children with bacterial coinfections, all were aged ≥5 years, and 10 (83.3%) were aged ≥12 years. An increase in the number of influenza-associated pediatric deaths with S. aureus coinfections was first recognized during the 2006–07 influenza season (4).
Of the 36 decedents aged >6 months for whom patient vaccination status was known, five (13.9%) had been vaccinated against influenza according to 2008 Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommendations (5). These data are provisional and subject to change as more information becomes available.
Reported by: WHO Collaborating Center for Surveillance, Epidemiology, and Control of Influenza. P Peebles, L Brammer, MPH, S Epperson, MPH, L Blanton, MPH, R Dhara, MPH, T Wallis, MS, L Finelli, DrPH, L Gubareva, PhD, J Bresee, MD, A Klimov, PhD, N Cox, PhD, Influenza Div, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, CDC.
Editorial Note:
From September 28, 2008, through early January 2009, the United States experienced low levels of influenza activity. Activity increased in mid-January, peaked in mid-February, and remained high until mid-March. Since mid-March, influenza levels have been decreasing nationally.
Preliminary data from the U.S. virologic surveillance networks (WHO and NREVSS collaborating laboratories), the percentage of deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza, and the percentage of outpatient visits for ILI suggest that this season has been less severe than the 2007–08 season and is more similar to the 2005–06 and 2006–07 seasons. The percentage of specimens tested for influenza that were positive peaked at 25.0% during the week ending February 14, 2009, compared with 31.6% in 2007–08, 27.7% in 2006–07, and 22.6% in 2005–06. To date during this season, the percentage of deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza peaked at 7.6% and has not exceeded the epidemic threshold. By comparison, pneumonia and influenza mortality peaked at 9.1%, 7.9%, and 7.8% during the 2007–08, 2006–07, and 2005–06 seasons, respectively. The epidemic threshold for pneumonia and influenza deaths was exceeded for 9 consecutive weeks during the 2007–08 season and for only 1 week during both the 2005–06 and 2006–07 seasons. The percentage of outpatient visits for ILI peaked at 3.7% this season, compared with 6.0% in 2007–08, 3.6% in 2006–07, and 3.1% in 2005–06.
During this influenza season, a high level of resistance to the antiviral drug oseltamivir was detected among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses. Since October 1, 2008, 99.3% of influenza A (H1N1) viruses tested were resistant to oseltamivir. To date, influenza A has accounted for 67.3% of all influenza viruses identified, and influenza A (H1N1) has accounted for 89.8% of the influenza A viruses that were subtyped. No oseltamivir resistance has been detected among influenza A (H3N2) or B viruses currently circulating in the United States; however, all the influenza A (H3N2) viruses tested were resistant to adamantanes. The adamantanes are not effective against influenza B viruses. None of the influenza A (H1N1) viruses tested were resistant to both oseltamivir and the adamantanes, and all influenza viruses tested this season have been susceptible to zanamivir. CDC issued interim guidelines for the use of influenza antiviral medications on December 19, 2008. Health-care providers should review their local surveillance data if available to determine which types (A or B) and subtypes of influenza A (H1N1 or H3N2) are most prominent in their community and consider using diagnostic tests to distinguish influenza A from influenza B. When an influenza A (H1N1) virus infection or exposure is suspected, zanamivir is the preferred medication; combination therapy of oseltamivir and rimantidine is an acceptable alternative (6).
Since early February, the relative proportion of influenza B viruses has been increasing each week, and more than half of influenza viruses identified since the week ending March 14, 2009, were influenza B. Approximately 80% of influenza B viruses tested have not been related to the influenza B vaccine strain. However, all influenza B viruses this season have been susceptible to oseltamivir and zanamivir. Health-care providers should be aware of these recent increases in influenza B viruses and of the differences in antiviral resistance patterns compared with influenza A (H1N1) viruses. When an influenza B infection or exposure is detected, treatment with oseltamivir or zanamivir is recommended. However, when the type or subtype is unknown, zanamivir is the preferred medication; combination therapy of oseltamivir and rimantidine also is acceptable (6).
To date this season, the cumulative laboratory-confirmed, influenza-associated hospitalization rate reported by EIP among persons aged ≥50 years has been lower than rates reported for the previous three seasons, but most similar to the 2006–07 season. Historically, excess mortality has been lower in seasons during which influenza A (H1N1) or influenza B predominated than during seasons in which influenza A (H3N2) has predominated (7). During the current and 2006–07 seasons, influenza A (H1N1) has been the prominent virus subtype circulating, which could partly explain the lower influenza-associated hospitalization rates among persons aged ≥50 years observed during these two seasons.
Vaccination remains the best method for preventing influenza virus infection and its complications. Influenza vaccination can prevent influenza infections from strains that are sensitive or resistant to antiviral medications. Thus far this season, all the influenza A viruses that have been characterized, including oseltamivir-resistant (H1N1) viruses, are antigenically related to the components in the vaccine. However, approximately 80% of influenza B viruses tested are from a distinct lineage that is not related to the vaccine strain. Limited or no protection is expected when the vaccine and circulating virus strains are from different lineages (8,9). The composition of the 2009–10 influenza vaccine includes the same influenza A (H1N1 and H3N2) components, and a change in the influenza B component from the Yamagata to the Victoria lineage.
Influenza surveillance reports for the United States are posted weekly online at http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/flu
activity.htm during the influenza season from October to mid-May. Additional information regarding influenza viruses, influenza surveillance, the influenza vaccine, and avian influenza is available at http://www.cdc.gov/flu.
Acknowledgments
This report is based, in part, on data contributed by participating state and territorial health departments and state public health laboratories, World Health Organization collaborating laboratories, National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, the U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network, the Emerging Infections Program, the New Vaccine Surveillance Network, the Influenza Associated Pediatric Mortality Surveillance System, and the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System.

Valerie Curren

If you are interested in this further, I suggest you go to this site & look beyond “References” since WP keeps refusing to post further parts of this comment…sigh…
https://web.archive.org/web/20111015082635/http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5814a4.htm
perhaps I can get the figures to show below, but go to the site to see the table if interested…
FIGURE 1. Number (N = 24,793) and percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza reported by World Health Organization and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, by type, and surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009comment image
Number (N = 24,793) and percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza reported by World Health Organization and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, by type, and surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009
FIGURE 2. Percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported by U.S. Outpatient Influenza-like Illness Surveillance Network (ILINet), by surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009 and 2006-07 and 2007-08 influenza seasonscomment image
Percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported by U.S. Outpatient Influenza-like Illness Surveillance Network (ILINet), by surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009 and 2006-07 and 2007-08 influenza seasons
* The 2006-07 and 2007-08 seasons did not have a week 53; therefore the week 53 data point for those seasons is an average of weeks 52 and 1.
† The national and regional baselines are the mean percentage of visits for ILI during noninfluenza weeks for the previous three seasons plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza week is a week during which <10% of specimens tested positive for influenza. National and regional percentages of patient visits for ILI are weighted on the basis of state population. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
FIGURE 3. Cumulative laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalization rates,* by age group† and surveillance week – Emerging Infections Program, United States, October 1, 2008-March 28, 2009, and preceding three influenza seasons
Cumulative laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalization rates,* by age group† and surveillance week – Emerging Infections Program, United States, October 1, 2008-March 28, 2009, and preceding three influenza seasonscomment image
* Per 10,000 population.
† Scales differ among age groups.
hopefully you can all see this one…blessings!

Valerie Curren

Using that archived CDC site that “they” seem to want to keep hidden found here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20111015082635/http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5814a4.htm
Here are some further thoughts & links of potential interest…
I wonder if part of why this particular season was hidden was because of the final chart showing multiple seasons in comparison…
The 2008-2009 flu season data was still available here, but there were no Q & As, unlike every other year accessible from this page:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160414192006/http://www.cdc.gov:80/flu/pastseasons/
This link discusses 2009-2010 flu season & refers to the previous season
https://web.archive.org/web/20150207121642/http://www.cdc.gov/flu/pastseasons/0910season.htm
This one has data about the 2009 H1N1 PANDEMIC…
https://web.archive.org/web/20150206004704/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
This represents the last capture of that page before its 8-1810 update:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100715010537/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
Here are images of the H1N1 virus that bears remarkable similarity, in certain respects to the coronavirus
https://web.archive.org/web/20100715140242/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/images.htm
Numerous reports here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100803093548/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/pubs/
lots of pandemic info for H1N1 here
https://web.archive.org/web/20100803093701/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/related_links.htm
The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: Summary Highlights, April 2009-April 2010
https://web.archive.org/web/20100715132743/http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm
well, I’m running out of gas so will let this stand “as is” forgive my feet of clay please…Blessings!

Valerie Curren

YW I hope something there interests someone who’s more in the know of this stuff than me… Blessings! 🙂

Valerie Curren

Part 2 of my previous comment…
References
Food and Drug Administration. Influenza virus vaccine 2009–2010 season. Available at http://www.fda.gov/cber/flu/flu2009.htm.
CDC. Influenza activity—United States and worldwide, September 28–November 29, 2008. MMWR 2008;57:1329–32.
CDC. Influenza activity—United States, September 28, 2008–January 31, 2009. MMWR 2009;58:115–9.
Finelli L, Fiore A, Dhara R, et al. Influenza-associated pediatric mortality in the United States: increase of Staphylococcus aureus coinfection. Pediatrics 2008;122:805–11.
CDC. Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), 2008. MMWR 2008;57(No. RR-7).
CDC. CDC issues interim recommendations for the use of influenza antiviral medications in the setting of oseltamivir resistance among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses, 2008–09 influenza season. Atlanta, GA: US Department of Health and human services, CDC; 2008. Available at http://www2a.cdc.gov/han/archivesys/viewmsgv.asp?alertnum=00279.
Thompson WW, Shay DK, Weintraub E, et al. Mortality associated with influenza and respiratory syncytial virus in the United States. JAMA 2003;289:179–86.
Belongia E, Kieke B, Donahue J, et al. Effectiveness of inactivated influenza vaccines varied substantially with antigenic match from the 2004–2005 season to the 2006–2007 season. J Infect Dis 2009;199:159–67.
Skowronski D, De Serres G, Dickinson J, et al. Component-specific effectiveness of trivalent influenza vaccine as monitored through a sentinel surveillance network in Canada, 2006–2007. J Infect Dis 2009;199:168–79.
* The CDC influenza surveillance system collects five categories of information from nine data sources: 1) viral surveillance (World Health Organization collaborating U.S. laboratories, the National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System, and novel influenza A virus case reporting), 2) outpatient illness surveillance (U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network), 3) mortality (122 Cities Mortality Reporting System and influenza-associated pediatric mortality reports), 4) hospitalizations (Emerging Infections Program and New Vaccine Surveillance Network), and 5) summary of geographic spread of influenza (state and territorial epidemiologist reports).
† Levels of activity are 1) no activity; 2) sporadic: isolated laboratory-confirmed influenza cases or a laboratory-confirmed outbreak in one institution, with no increase in influenza-like illness (ILI) activity; 3) local: increased ILI, or at least two institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in one region with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in that region; virus activity no greater than sporadic in other regions; 4) regional: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least two but less than half of the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in those regions; and 5) widespread: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least half the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in the state.
§ Defined as a temperature of ≥100.0°F (≥37.8°C), oral or equivalent, and cough and/or sore throat, in the absence of a known cause other than influenza.
¶ The national and regional baselines are the mean percentage of visits for ILI during noninfluenza weeks for the previous three seasons plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza week is a week during which <10% of specimens tested positive for influenza. National and regional percentages of patient visits for ILI are weighted on the basis of state population. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
** The seasonal baseline proportion of pneumonia and influenza deaths is projected using a robust regression procedure in which a periodic regression model is applied to the observed percentage of deaths from pneumonia and influenza that were reported by the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System during the preceding 5 years. The epidemic threshold is 1.645 standard deviations above the seasonal baseline.
†† NVSN conducts surveillance in Monroe County, New York; Hamilton County, Ohio; and Davidson County, Tennessee. NVSN provides population-based estimates of laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalization rates in children aged <5 years admitted to NVSN hospitals with fever or respiratory symptoms. Children are prospectively enrolled, and respiratory samples are collected and tested by viral culture and reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR). EIP currently conducts surveillance for laboratory-confirmed, influenza-related hospitalizations in 61 counties and Baltimore, Maryland. The EIP catchment area includes 13 metropolitan areas: San Francisco, California; Denver, Colorado; New Haven, Connecticut; Atlanta, Georgia; Baltimore, Maryland; Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota; Albuquerque, New Mexico; Las Cruces, New Mexico; Santa Fe, New Mexico; Albany, New York; Rochester, New York; Portland, Oregon; and Nashville, Tennessee. Hospital laboratory, admission, and discharge databases, and infection-control logs are reviewed to identify persons with a positive influenza test (i.e., viral culture, direct fluorescent antibody assays, RT-PCR, serology, or a commercial rapid antigen test) from testing conducted as part of their routine care.
FIGURE 1. Number (N = 24,793) and percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza reported by World Health Organization and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, by type, and surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009comment image
Number (N = 24,793) and percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza reported by World Health Organization and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System collaborating laboratories, by type, and surveillance week – United States, September 28, 2008-April 4, 2009
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Valerie Curren

2nd attempt at Part 2 following my comment above
References
Food and Drug Administration. Influenza virus vaccine 2009–2010 season. Available at http://www.fda.gov/cber/flu/flu2009.htm.
CDC. Influenza activity—United States and worldwide, September 28–November 29, 2008. MMWR 2008;57:1329–32.
CDC. Influenza activity—United States, September 28, 2008–January 31, 2009. MMWR 2009;58:115–9.
Finelli L, Fiore A, Dhara R, et al. Influenza-associated pediatric mortality in the United States: increase of Staphylococcus aureus coinfection. Pediatrics 2008;122:805–11.
CDC. Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), 2008. MMWR 2008;57(No. RR-7).
CDC. CDC issues interim recommendations for the use of influenza antiviral medications in the setting of oseltamivir resistance among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses, 2008–09 influenza season. Atlanta, GA: US Department of Health and human services, CDC; 2008. Available at http://www2a.cdc.gov/han/archivesys/viewmsgv.asp?alertnum=00279.
Thompson WW, Shay DK, Weintraub E, et al. Mortality associated with influenza and respiratory syncytial virus in the United States. JAMA 2003;289:179–86.
Belongia E, Kieke B, Donahue J, et al. Effectiveness of inactivated influenza vaccines varied substantially with antigenic match from the 2004–2005 season to the 2006–2007 season. J Infect Dis 2009;199:159–67.
Skowronski D, De Serres G, Dickinson J, et al. Component-specific effectiveness of trivalent influenza vaccine as monitored through a sentinel surveillance network in Canada, 2006–2007. J Infect Dis 2009;199:168–79.
* The CDC influenza surveillance system collects five categories of information from nine data sources: 1) viral surveillance (World Health Organization collaborating U.S. laboratories, the National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System, and novel influenza A virus case reporting), 2) outpatient illness surveillance (U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network), 3) mortality (122 Cities Mortality Reporting System and influenza-associated pediatric mortality reports), 4) hospitalizations (Emerging Infections Program and New Vaccine Surveillance Network), and 5) summary of geographic spread of influenza (state and territorial epidemiologist reports).
† Levels of activity are 1) no activity; 2) sporadic: isolated laboratory-confirmed influenza cases or a laboratory-confirmed outbreak in one institution, with no increase in influenza-like illness (ILI) activity; 3) local: increased ILI, or at least two institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in one region with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in that region; virus activity no greater than sporadic in other regions; 4) regional: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least two but less than half of the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in those regions; and 5) widespread: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least half the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in the state.
§ Defined as a temperature of ≥100.0°F (≥37.8°C), oral or equivalent, and cough and/or sore throat, in the absence of a known cause other than influenza.
¶ The national and regional baselines are the mean percentage of visits for ILI during noninfluenza weeks for the previous three seasons plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza week is a week during which <10% of specimens tested positive for influenza. National and regional percentages of patient visits for ILI are weighted on the basis of state population. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
** The seasonal baseline proportion of pneumonia and influenza deaths is projected using a robust regression procedure in which a periodic regression model is applied to the observed percentage of deaths from pneumonia and influenza that were reported by the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System during the preceding 5 years. The epidemic threshold is 1.645 standard deviations above the seasonal baseline.
†† NVSN conducts surveillance in Monroe County, New York; Hamilton County, Ohio; and Davidson County, Tennessee. NVSN provides population-based estimates of laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalization rates in children aged <5 years admitted to NVSN hospitals with fever or respiratory symptoms. Children are prospectively enrolled, and respiratory samples are collected and tested by viral culture and reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR). EIP currently conducts surveillance for laboratory-confirmed, influenza-related hospitalizations in 61 counties and Baltimore, Maryland. The EIP catchment area includes 13 metropolitan areas: San Francisco, California; Denver, Colorado; New Haven, Connecticut; Atlanta, Georgia; Baltimore, Maryland; Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota; Albuquerque, New Mexico; Las Cruces, New Mexico; Santa Fe, New Mexico; Albany, New York; Rochester, New York; Portland, Oregon; and Nashville, Tennessee. Hospital laboratory, admission, and discharge databases, and infection-control logs are reviewed to identify persons with a positive influenza test (i.e., viral culture, direct fluorescent antibody assays, RT-PCR, serology, or a commercial rapid antigen test) from testing conducted as part of their routine care.

GA/FL

THINK ABOUT IT…..
The UK no longer has private testing labs to fall back upon at this time.
I’d hate to think what the US would have done without our private labs which are performing 10 TIMES more tests than our State Dept of Health labs.

Valerie Curren

3rd attempt at Part 2 of my comment above…
References
Food and Drug Administration. Influenza virus vaccine 2009–2010 season. Available at http://www.fda.gov/cber/flu/flu2009.htm.
CDC. Influenza activity—United States and worldwide, September 28–November 29, 2008. MMWR 2008;57:1329–32.
CDC. Influenza activity—United States, September 28, 2008–January 31, 2009. MMWR 2009;58:115–9.
Finelli L, Fiore A, Dhara R, et al. Influenza-associated pediatric mortality in the United States: increase of Staphylococcus aureus coinfection. Pediatrics 2008;122:805–11.
CDC. Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), 2008. MMWR 2008;57(No. RR-7).
CDC. CDC issues interim recommendations for the use of influenza antiviral medications in the setting of oseltamivir resistance among circulating influenza A (H1N1) viruses, 2008–09 influenza season. Atlanta, GA: US Department of Health and human services, CDC; 2008. Available at http://www2a.cdc.gov/han/archivesys/viewmsgv.asp?alertnum=00279.
Thompson WW, Shay DK, Weintraub E, et al. Mortality associated with influenza and respiratory syncytial virus in the United States. JAMA 2003;289:179–86.
Belongia E, Kieke B, Donahue J, et al. Effectiveness of inactivated influenza vaccines varied substantially with antigenic match from the 2004–2005 season to the 2006–2007 season. J Infect Dis 2009;199:159–67.
Skowronski D, De Serres G, Dickinson J, et al. Component-specific effectiveness of trivalent influenza vaccine as monitored through a sentinel surveillance network in Canada, 2006–2007. J Infect Dis 2009;199:168–79.
* The CDC influenza surveillance system collects five categories of information from nine data sources: 1) viral surveillance (World Health Organization collaborating U.S. laboratories, the National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System, and novel influenza A virus case reporting), 2) outpatient illness surveillance (U.S. Outpatient ILI Surveillance Network), 3) mortality (122 Cities Mortality Reporting System and influenza-associated pediatric mortality reports), 4) hospitalizations (Emerging Infections Program and New Vaccine Surveillance Network), and 5) summary of geographic spread of influenza (state and territorial epidemiologist reports).
† Levels of activity are 1) no activity; 2) sporadic: isolated laboratory-confirmed influenza cases or a laboratory-confirmed outbreak in one institution, with no increase in influenza-like illness (ILI) activity; 3) local: increased ILI, or at least two institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in one region with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in that region; virus activity no greater than sporadic in other regions; 4) regional: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least two but less than half of the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in those regions; and 5) widespread: increased ILI activity or institutional outbreaks (ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza) in at least half the regions in the state with recent laboratory evidence of influenza in the state.

Valerie Curren

Re-posting the initial comment in a thread from yesterday, in case this sparks any other ideas…
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/20200401-coronacrisis-china-virus-daily-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-449564
Following that post referenced above I share charts from the CDC for all the flu seasons NOT shown on the comparative graph if anyone else might be interested in that data…
Repeat Comment Follows NOW…
This may be way off base, but your first graph above shows an interesting pattern…comment image
In Trump’s Time, on the scene or in office, the patterns are pretty different than preceding years. By the way, why didn’t they plot data for 2010-2011 or 2012-2013 or 2013-2014 or 2016-2017 seasons…What Are They Hiding Here???
2011-2012 is also a leading into an election season & it shows the two humps perspective, could the CCP have been testing out a less virulent form here to then use to leverage BHO?
2015-2016 is leading into the Trump election & it also overlaps the Coup Machinations like Crossfire Hurricane, Steele/Clinton dossier, Manafort situations, Michael Flynn takedown ops likely planned…it’s worse than the 2011-2012 scenario but a similar pattern…
2017-2018 is leading into Mid-term elections & the peak is higher than other years besides the Usurper’s Swine Flu 2009-2010 season which peaked much earlier than the other shown “Flu” seasons. It didn’t have the double hump that the other Trumpian seasons displayed…
2018-2019 is another non-election year but displays the double hump form that May be representative of more Chi-Com viral tampering.
Oh, these are “visits for flu-like illnesses” so what if all the Trump Deranged are more immunocompromised purely from their overwhelming fears about the direction of the nation under Trump’s leadership so they get sicker easier or go to the Dr more because of general neurosis?
2007-2008 & 2008-2009 seasons on display could also be instructive too to see if similar patterns were presenting in the lead up to BHO’s usurpation, especially because Hillary was an electoral factor up until Barry was “anointed” to be the dem’s candidate…

Dora

That should help. UGH!
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Shenzhen becomes first Chinese city to ban consumption of cats, dogs
The Chinese metropolis of Shenzhen has become the first city in the country to ban the sale and consumption of cat and dog meat amid the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/shenzhen-is-first-in-china-to-ban-consumption-of-cats-dogs/

smiley2

the coronavirus spread very quickly to other countries…but China got it right off the bat.
(ugh)

Valerie Curren

Here is an interesting comparative graph that gives helpful verbal descriptions of the years shown…& here’s the more recent graph to compare tocomment image
some of the 2012-2013 info
FIGURE 2. Percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI)* reported to CDC, by surveillance week and year — U.S. Outpatient Influenza-Like Illness Surveillance Network, United States, September 30, 2012–May 18, 2013, and selected previous seasonscomment image
* Defined as a temperature of ≥100.0°F (≥37.8°C), oral or equivalent, and cough or sore throat, in the absence of a known cause other than influenza.
† The national baseline is the mean percentage of visits for ILI during noninfluenza weeks for the previous three seasons plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza week is defined as periods of two or more consecutive weeks in which each week accounted for <2% of the season's total number of specimens that tested positive for influenza. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
Alternate Text: The figure above shows the percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported to CDC, by surveillance week and year in the United States during September 30, 2012-May 18, 2013, and selected previous seasons. Nationally, the weekly percentage of outpatient visits for ILI to health-care providers participating in the U.S. Outpatient Influenza-Like Illness Surveillance Network exceeded the national baseline level of 2.2% for 15 weeks during the 2012-13 influenza season.
FIGURE 4. Percentage of all deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza (P&I), by surveillance week and year — 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System, United States, 2008–May 18, 2013comment image
* The epidemic threshold is 1.645 standard deviations above the seasonal baseline.
† The seasonal baseline is projected using a robust regression procedure that applies a periodic regression model to the observed percentage of deaths from P&I during the preceding 5 years.
Alternate Text: The figure above shows percentage of all deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza (P&I), by surveillance week and year in 122 U.S. cities during 2008-May 18, 2013. The percentage of deaths attributed to P&I peaked at 9.9% during the week ending January 19, 2013 (week 3). From the 2008-09 season through the 2011-12 season, the peak percentage of P&I deaths ranged from 7.9% to 9.1%, and the total number of consecutive weeks at or above the epidemic threshold ranged from 1 to 13.

Valerie Curren

Here is an interesting comparative graph that gives helpful verbal descriptions of the years shown…& here’s the more recent graph to compare tocomment image
some of the 2013-2014 info
FIGURE 2. Percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI)* reported to CDC, by surveillance week — Outpatient Influenza-Like Illness Surveillance Network, United States, 2013–14 influenza season and selected previous seasons†comment image
* Defined as a fever of ≥100.0°F (≥37.8°C), oral or equivalent, and cough or sore throat, in the absence of a known cause other than influenza.
† Data as of May 30, 2014.
§ The national baseline is the mean percentage of visits for ILI during weeks with little or no influenza virus circulation (noninfluenza periods) for the previous three seasons plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza period is defined as ≥2 consecutive weeks in which each week accounted for <2% of the season's total number of specimens that tested positive for influenza. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
Alternate Text: The figure above shows the percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported to CDC, by surveillance week and year in the United States during the 2013-14 influenza season and selected previous seasons. Nationally, the weekly percentage of outpatient visits for ILI to health-care providers participating in the U.S. Outpatient Influenza-Like Illness Surveillance Network was at or above the national baseline level of 2.0% for 15 consecutive weeks during the 2013-14 influenza season.
FIGURE 4. Percentage of all deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza (P&I), by surveillance week and year — 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System, United States, 2009–2014*comment image
* Data as of May 30, 2014.
† The seasonal baseline proportion of P&I deaths is projected using a robust regression procedure, in which a periodic regression model is applied to the observed percentage of deaths from P&I reported by the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System during the preceding 5 years.
§ The epidemic threshold is set at 1.645 standard deviations above the seasonal baseline.
Alternate Text: The figure above shows the percentage of all deaths attributable to pneumonia and influenza (P&I), by surveillance week and year in 122 U.S cities during 2008-2014. During the 2013-14 influenza season, the percentage of deaths attributed to P&I exceeded the epidemic threshold for 8 consecutive weeks from January 11, 2014 to March 1, 2014 (weeks 2-9). The percentage of deaths attributed to P&I peaked at 8.7% during the week ending January 25, 2014 (week 4).

Deplorable Patriot

Hey, Cabal peeps, beware of twitter personalities who can actually do math.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245689987603009536
We have 215,244 Americans who have tested positive for COVID-19. But we also hear up to 94% of tests come back negative.
https://wpr.org/heres-why-so-many-covid-19-tests-are-coming-back-negative
This would equal 3,587,400 tests given to get 215,244 positives.
But only 1 million tests have been given.
Someone is lying.

Deplorable Patriot

Which is why all the big numbers for this thrown around are really just guesses.

prognosticatasaurusrex

EXACTLY! TY> As I have been saying ad nauseum

Valerie Curren

Here is an interesting comparative graph that gives helpful verbal descriptions of the years shown…& here’s the more recent graph to compare tocomment image
some of the 2016-2017 info
FIGURE 3. Percentage of visits for influenza-like illness (ILI)* reported to CDC, by surveillance week — Outpatient Influenza-Like Illness Surveillance Network, United States, 2016–17 influenza season and selected previous influenza seasons†comment image
* Defined as fever (temperature ≥100.0°F [≥37.8°C], oral or equivalent) and cough and/or sore throat, without a known cause other than influenza.
† As of June 9, 2017.
Interesting that this year they don’t have a “Figure 4” & they also list someone with a conflict of interest:
“Conflict of Interest
Jacquline Katz reports U.S. Patent 6,196,175 (issued 01/02/2001) and U.S. Patent 8,163,545 (issued 4/26/2012). No other conflicts of interest were reported.
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Corresponding author: Lenee Blanton, lblanton@cdc.gov, 404–639–3747.”

Valerie Curren

Here is an interesting comparative graph that gives helpful verbal descriptions of the years shown…& here’s the more recent graph to compare tocomment image
some of the 2010-2011 info
FIGURE 2. Percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported, by surveillance week and year — U.S. Outpatient Influenza-Like Illness Surveillance Network (ILINet), United States, September 30, 2007–May 21, 2011*comment image
* As of May 25, 2010.
† The national and regional baselines are the mean percentage of visits for ILI during noninfluenza weeks for the previous three seasons, plus two standard deviations. A noninfluenza week is a week during which <10% of specimens tested positive for influenza. National and regional percentages of patient visits for ILI are weighted on the basis of state population. Use of the national baseline for regional data is not appropriate.
Alternate Text: The figure above shows the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness (ILI) reported, by surveillance week and year in the United States from September 30, 2007-May 21, 2011, according to the U.S. Outpatient Influenza-Like Illness Surveillance Network (ILINet). The weekly percentage of outpatient visits for ILI to the U.S. Outpatient Influenza-like Illness Surveillance Network (ILINet) exceeded national baseline levels (2.5%) during the weeks ending December 25, 2010, through March 19, 2011 (weeks 51-11), and peaked at 4.6% during the week ending February 19, 2011 (week 7).
FIGURE 4. Percentage of all deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I), by surveillance week and year —122 Cities Mortality Reporting System, United States, 2006–2011comment image
* The epidemic threshold is1.645 standard deviations above the seasonal baseline.
† The seasonal baseline is projected using a robust regression procedure that applies a periodic regression model to the observed percentage of deaths from P&I during the preceding 5 years.
Alternate Text: The figure above shows the percentage of all deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) by surveillance week and year in the United States from 2006-2011, according to the Mortality Reporting Systems of 122 cities. During the 2010-11 influenza season, the percentage of deaths attributed to P&I exceeded the epidemic threshold for 13 consecutive weeks, from the weeks ending January 29 to April 23, 2011 (weeks 4-16).

Valerie Curren

I was suspicious of the CDC multi-colored graph that kept getting posted, as in why didn’t it include All Available Years from 2009-10 through 2019-20–were they hiding something? So I went to the CDC to look up the missing years…here’s how I shared it w/ GC…
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/20200401-coronacrisis-china-virus-daily-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-449564
“OK, so I attempted to go to the source cdc.gov to see if there was other data available for the “hidden” seasons on the line graph you shared. This site deals with historic flu data
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/past-flu-seasons.htm
It starts with 2006-2007 & goes to 2018-2019 but is conspicuously missing 2008-2009 hmm…
If I can find decent summary data for the “missing” seasons on your line graph I will attempt to share”comment image
It may be Nothing but I think it’s odd that they don’t show Every Year to compare trends. Finding the 2008-2009 data really took some digging, perhaps because it overlaps BHO’s pandemic pooch screw…
I shared the graphs from the “missing” (not selected for inclusion by the CDC?) years on the above graph that showed multi-year trends…
I didn’t read all the CDC reports over those years which May have contained some type of explanation why they are Only Graphing Selected Years. It could be important or it could be a (white) rabbit trail…I’m getting sleep deprived so could be wasting my & other’s time or could have tripped over a diamond in the rough, but someone else’s analysis will likely reveal its facets better than I might.
Hope that helps a bit…Blessings!
Sorry for so many “similar” posts…if the data is important someone might see the trends from the visuals & run with it…perhaps!

Valerie Curren

Thanks, Daughn. No sleep for me (yet)…Love to you too! I’d do a heart emoji if I knew how 🙂

coosmama

The medicine combo of Plaquenil and Zithromax works on other flu-like virues, not just COVID-19. There is treatment for flu that had been covered up, so vaccine and research money for flu shot is NOT needed.

Valerie Curren

No wonder the deep staters want to suppress that success…

Volgarian8301

And if it treats regular flu cheaper than Tamiflu……🤔

Gail Combs

IMPORTANT POST by E.m. Smith aka ChiefIO
States, Counties, Cities, Personal – You Are On Self Rescue Now

….The W.H.O. and CDC are lying to you.
They are saying “These are not the masks you are looking for” because they want to reserve them for medical staff. That is both stupid and short sighted. One medical staff will need to use dozens of masks to treat one patient. Standard protocol is to change every time you move to a new patient, and again when you return. A single mask on an infected checkout clerk can prevent 100 patients. PREVENTION is more important that trying to catch up with exponential growth of cases later. You WILL lose the exponential race and you WILL have no PPE left for the medical staff in short order if you play that game long enough…..
DIY Masks
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Cleaning a DIY mask can be as simple as washing in hot water and soap, but for quicker re-use, you can put it in a paper bag in an oven heated to over 170 F for 1/2 hour.
As soon as I’ve left the store and I’m back at the car, I remove my gear and wash with rubbing alcohol. I keep a pint jar in my ‘car bag”. So PPE off (and into it’s bag) and then immediately pour a bit of alcohol into the cupped hand and rub them together. Then wait for it to evaporate. I do this over a paper towel to catch the dribbles, and then use it to wipe down my shop glasses. When I get home, shoes stay on the porch and shirt / pants into the washer. Hands again washed with hot water and soap before new outer layer goes on…

LOTS MORE VERY GOOD INFO!!
And do not miss the comments.

Gail Combs

This comment may be of interest:

Tom says:
31 March 2020 at 10:45 pm
May I suggest examining ECGC of Green Tea, or Quercetin extract in the context of ionophore activity. These items somewhat mimic quinine family chemical compound’s ability to increase Zinc’s access to cellular functions, so as to inhibit viral RNA replication

Linda

That’s a great point about masks. I have yet to see any checkout clerks wearing them. However, a lot of grocery stores here are putting a sheet of plexiglass between the checkout stand and the customer.

pgroup

Why not just microwave it for 30-45 seconds?

Gail Combs

pgroup,
There is a major discussion by the engineer/scientist types at ChiefIOs on microwaves and masks. Wavelengths and vibrational modes of H2O and all that.
Starts here:
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2020/03/31/states-counties-cities-personal-you-are-on-self-rescue-now/#comment-127614

prognosticatasaurusrex

Morning Treepers. I was suspicious, but NOT sure till yesterday. Fauchi IS the turd in the punchbowl, the ENEMY within. This is ALL because of him and his reliance on PROJECTIONS instead of facts. When he went against Trump on Chloroquine + Azithromycin, I was suspicious, and I watched, he even BULLIED Birx into the doom and gloom predictions. But yesterday SEALED it. He blatantly went against the cheap, readily available, and EASY antibody test. Saying it was not high on his priorities.
WHAT? He cannot be serious, the ONLY way to know what we are facing ACCURATELY, and to PREVENT further attack (herd immunity) IS the antibody test. Birx KNOWs IT, and OPENLY contradicted Fauchi. She knows the ONLY way to get a TRUE picture, you MUST know the denominator, the TRUE number of infected, ESPECIALLY those that recovered.
See, Fauchi is ALL IN on the projections, and waiting a YEAR AND A HALF for a vaccine that MAY or MAY NOT work. HE is the problem. He KNOIWS Chloroquine is a cure, and a DAMN good and safe one, it is also CHEAP and reliable, byt THAT would make a 4 billion or more vaccine moot, must dead pan that.
He also KNOWS, yes he KNOWSS the projections are CRAP, I would not doubt he KNOWS, and is surpressing key FACTS from Trump on the REAL start date of first infection, AND the massive amount of infected and recovered therein. But see, if we were infected MUCH earlier, as I said, and MUCH more widespread than believed, and “reported” that would mean that, as I also said, MANY already recovered and did not even know they had it due to the 80% mild symptoms, they chalked it up to something ELSE.
But, Dr Doom, er Fauchi, can’t have that, knowing the TRUE number of infected AND recovered KILLS BOTH the projection narrative, AND the rush for his 4 billion dollar vaccine.
That is what this ALL is about. Fauchi wants HIS weapon, and I am now calling this HIS weapon. He is CHEIF defender of it. Ask yourself WHY he who ORIGINALLY said, 5 days before Trump SHUT OFF travel to China, said that the covid 19 was no big deal, and NOTHING to worry about, but NOW he is ALL in, but ONLY if it HIDES the cure and TRUE nature of the virus.
And that IS what he is doing, while spreading DOOM and GLOOM numbers of hundreds of thousands of Americans DEAD. WHY? That is a PROJECTION, and A BAD one, and I do not mean bad as in dire, I mean bad as in WRONG, WAY WRONG.
Then, when there is a SURE way to mitigate this, Chloroquine +, and a SURE way to QUICKLY and CHEAPLY find the TRUE nature of the virus, Dr Doom goes out and scares the shit out of everyone, while DEAD PANNING two things that would HELP reduce his doom and gloom projection. WHY?
Dear President Trump, do NOT trust Fauchi, he is INTENTIONALLY misleading you. He either is incompetent, at 80 WAY past his prime, OR he has an agenda ( a $4,000,000,000 vaccine perhaps?) REPLACE (FIRE) Dr Fauchi, NOW, state it is for “health reasons” I don’t care get #35 out and get the BEST virologist in the WORLD or at LEAST someone in the top TEN here, and get this shit over. Fauchi is obfuscating, stalling, and waiting for his 4b vaccine.
People are suffering and DYING, and many more will not from this virus the longer you continue to listen to Dr Doom. He does NOT have America and Americans best interests at heart, he has his projections, his obstinance to CHANGE, and his WALLET at heart, Birx is TRYING to right the ship, and Fauchi and the MSM WILL try to bully her compliance or SILENCE again soon.
FIX the problem Mr. President. I KNOW you or someone close to you READS these blogs and posts, too many hints. DO IT. Get this under YOUR control. I KNOW you defer to the “expert” but experts make MISTAKES to, and you FIRE them. Were this guy an architect or an engineer and screwed up the numbers, you would not HESITATE.
Dr Doom is screwing up more than just the numbers, he is LETTING people suffer and die, to SELF FULFILL his projections. He is TRASHIN the economy, and he is SCARING the hell out of people. CUT THE CORD. Get some NEW blood. It is TIME.

prognosticatasaurusrex

BINGO. TY! Plus we have something that actually DOES work, and Fauchi, er Dr Doom, is suppressing it.

Gail Combs

Late last night this was posted:

thinkthinkthink
I don’t [think] this has shown up here yet.
Credit: Drix Dressler, American Thinker
“I won’t hold my breath waiting for the MSM to take note that Dr. Anthony Fauci has vocal critics on the left, too.”
Could this be why leading White House coronavirus advisor Anthony Fauci, MD, long-time head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), recently pooh-poohed the published chloroquine evidence as merely “anecdotal”?
Fauci is a stalwart enthusiast of “patentable” vaccines, skilled in attracting massive government funding for vaccines that either never materialize or are spectacularly ineffective or unsafe.
For example, Fauci once shilled for the fast-tracked H1N1 influenza (“swine flu”) vaccine on YouTube, reassuring viewers in 2009 that serious adverse events were “very, very, very rare.”
Shortly thereafter, the vaccine went on to wreak havoc in multiple countries, increasing miscarriage risks in pregnant women in the U.S., provoking a spike in adolescent narcolepsy in Scandinavia and causing febrile convulsions in one in every 110 vaccinated children in Australia — prompting the latter to suspend its influenza vaccination program in under-fives.
In 2010, then-Senator and physician Tom Coburn, MD, called out Fauci for misleadingly touting “significant progress in HIV vaccine researc[h]
Accompanying the article is a six minute-long Children’s Health Defense YouTube video that is uncompromising in its critique of Fauci and his colleagues for their preoccupation to fast-track a coronavirus vaccine allegedly without proper testing. The video dramatically features white text on a black background interspersed with several soundbites of scientists whose comments throw cold water on the current direction of the National Institutes of Health regarding Covid-19. Some excerpts from the video’s text:
Biotech companies are racing to patent vaccines and profit from disease. Dr. Anthony Fauci has been a dedicated vaccine advocate at N.I.H. for 36 years. He demanded billions to create an HIV vaccine. It never materialized…. Dr. Fauci has little interest in treatments that can’t be patented. Is it because NIH stands to make hundreds of millions in royalties when they partner with pharma on blockbuster global vaccines? Dr. Fauci delivers billions of taxpayer dollars to pharma to promote vaccine schemes while public health declines. Dr. Fauci secured $2 billion for a future coronavirus vaccine while N.I.H. partnered with biotech giant, Moderna, to share in the profits.
Dr. Fauci has applied for a dozen patents to protect his inventions while working at the NIH.
Also of note, and also totally ignored by the MSM, are Charles Ortleb’s numerous critical analyses of Dr. Fauci. Ortleb is a journalist, publisher, and editor on the left who founded a biweekly gay newspaper, the New York Native, in 1980. According to the New York Times (June 3, 2001), “The New York Native, then the nation’s most influential gay newspaper, carried a report of a strange new ailment on May 18, 1981,” becoming the first publication in the country to take note of what would later be named AIDS. In the introduction to his 2017 podcast interview with Ortleb titled “The Infectious Myth,” David Crowe writes that Ortleb’s “career bloomed at the start of the AIDS epidemic, and then crashed when he started to criticize the HIV-AIDS dogma promulgated by the CDC and powerful pharmaceutically funded organizations within his own community.”
Last month, Ortleb made his 48-page paperback book, titled Fauci: The Bernie Madoff of Science and the HIV Ponzi Scheme that Concealed the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic, available for purchase on Amazon. Also in March, Ortleb uploaded his 2,000-word “editorial” titled “The Fauci Fiasco” to Scribd, where it can be read and downloaded without charge. Among the observations of Ortleb:
Anthony Fauci is not the great scientist you think he is. Every time I see someone praising Dr. Anthony Fauci to the skies on television, I say, “Oy Vey!” …
I think it is safe to say my newspaper [the New York Native] is probably the only one in the world to ever have a cover portraying Anthony Fauci as Pinocchio. If you are a journalist or scientist and you ever have the opportunity to mention my newspaper to Anthony Fauci, I can pretty much guarantee that the blood will drain from his face.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for the MSM to take note that Dr. Anthony Fauci has vocal critics on the left, too.

prognosticatasaurusrex

ANNND NOW, after a reporter just HAPPENED to ask yesterday, bullshit..cough…, Fauchi is being given a SECURITY detail because he has had threats over his use of projections (ostensibly us deplorables). RIGHT on cue. ANOTHER self fulfilling strawman. They REALLY want their weapon, and Fauchi is the HEAD weapon deplorer. He is NOW going to be protected, and NOT just from “threats” from, they THINK, being FIRED. DO IT MR PRESIDENT, do it NOW.

rayzorbak

Should have a caption:
Oh SHIT!
He KNOWS!

grandmaintexas

My goodness, Fauci could barely maintain. He was terrified.

TheseTruths

At first it looked as if he was suppressing a smile or laugh, to me.

coosmama

No money to be made in cures, only in reasearch and “failed” vaccines. Dr. Fauci said at the presser Mar 31 (or 30?), that if the vaccine fails, you take it off the table and start again. If an average of only 24% of the grant money actually goes into the research, and the rest is expenses, why would they want to close the spigot?

prognosticatasaurusrex

a sustainable “money pit” This guy MUST go, and GO NOW!.

coosmama

Um, Bonnie and Clyde. HIV reasearch will be going away, per POTUS, in less than 9 years. Need another virus research program to keep that money flowing.

GA/FL

Polio, Tuberculosis, Measles, Hep B, Mumps, Rabies

Gail Combs

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Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA), NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., Sir Elton John, U.S. Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) attend the Syringe Access Fund at the Open Society Foundations on July 24, 2012 in Washington, DC. (Michael Kovac / Getty Images.)

….During July’s International AIDS Conference in Washington D.C., singer Elton John joined California Democratic Reps. Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, Barbara Lee and others in a show of support for one of the more stigmatized and divisive HIV/AIDS prevention strategies: needle-exchange programs.
Needle exchanges are community-based programs where drug users can safely dispose of old syringes and exchange them for new, sterile ones….
*https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/despite-show-of-support-federal-funding-ban-on-needle-exchange-unlikely-to-be-lifted-anytime-soon/

Fauci from the WikiLeaks e-mails.
CREDIT:

I did a bit of the digging.
>>>>>>>>>
From: Quam, Lois E
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 02:14 PM
To: Abedin, Huma; Mills, Cheryl D
Subject: Tony Fauci
I thought you and the Secretary would enjoy knowing the Tony Fauci was just named by Government Executive magazine to be one of the top 20 federal government employees of all time.

*https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25332
>>>>>>>>>
From: Mills, Cheryl D
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:04 PM
To: Subject: Fw: Sec. Clinton’s IAS speech
From: Fauci, Anthony (NIH/NIAID) [E] [mailto:AFAUCI@niaid.nih.gov]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:00 PM
To: Daniel, Joshua J Cc: Mills, Cheryl D Subject:
RE: Sec. Clinton’s IAS speech Josh:
Thanks for sending the Secretary’s speech to me. It is really very good. I have no substantive comments. It will be very well received and it will follow very nicely my preceding plenary speech in which I speak about the scientific basis for the implementation of the interventions to which she refers in her speech.
Best regards, Tony
[Fauci]
*https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/4601

prognosticatasaurusrex