Month: March 2020

20200331: Important New Info About Origins of China Virus

It was the top red siren Drudge Link for almost 24 hours and is an important read. Bill Gertz is the National Security Expert for Washington Examiner. He’s also a highly respected expert on SARS virus and has written about China for for over 30yrs. Here is the link: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/

Bill Gertz was also interviewed today on multiple outlets (He was everywhere today). Here he is on War Room Pandemic, from about 4:25 minutes to about 11 minutes into the program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fR5I9osXY0

Here’s what happened:

Shanghai Media Group published a video which Bill Gertz found, overlooked by many. The video is of a Chinese employee for their CDC, Tian Junhua ( https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/tian-junhua/ ) who works for the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the national center for China’s bat virus research. Tian Junhua is NOT a doctor, but has been lionized in the media as the “bat virus” guy because he has isolated over 300 different bat viri.

The video obtained by Gertz shows Tian Junhua collecting samples of bat guano in caves in Hubei province. Tian Junhua casually mentions “I am not a doctor, but I work to cure and save people,” Mr. Tian says in the video. “I am not a soldier, but I work to safeguard an invisible national defense line.” Okay, he sees himself as a valuable member of society doing good work. Yet, Tian continues, “”As long as I am not getting sick during the incubation period of 14 days, I can be lucky to get away with it,” he said.

What does he mean by “… as long as I’m not getting sick” and “I can be lucky” and what is this about Tian knowing about a 14 day protocol?

Which led Bill Gertz to MORE questions. Are you ready for it?

The public speculated a great deal about the P4 virus lab, The Institute of Virology, in Wuhan, one of the few in the world, built by the French for the Chinese to study SARS, etc. Yet, the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a DIFFERENT facility, and only a Security level #2. THAT’s where the bat virus research was taking place, NOT at the highly secure P4 lab.

Yep, there are TWO facilities and we learn later on, MANY more facilities where bat virus is studied throughout China…………………. WUT?

The Chinese video “Youth in the Wild — Invisible Defender” records researchers engaged in casual handling of bats containing deadly viri. The seven-minute film boasts that China has “taken the lead” in global virus research and uncovered over 2,000 viruses in the past 12 years, the time since the outbreak of the bat-origin virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)……

Prior to China’s discoveries, an estimated 2,284 types of viri had been found in the previous 200 years, the video says.

Chinese state media outlets revealed that Mr. Tian once failed to wear protective gear in a cave and as a result came into contact with bat urine. To avoid contracting a disease, he self-quarantined for 14 days — the same recommended period for people exposed to the new COVID-19 strain.…..

Mr. Tian works for the office of decontamination and biological disease vector prevention and control within the Wuhan CDC. According to a May 2017 report by the Wuhan Evening News, Mr. Tian has gathered thousands of bats for research work on bat viruses since 2012.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/

Why is a guy who works at a security level 2 lab gathering thousands of samples and not adhering to rigorous protective protocols when handling some of the most deadly diseases known to man? “Until the recent outbreak, all but two coronaviruses in China were studied at biosafety level-2 (BSL-2) facilities — not the high-security BSL-4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — “which provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers,” said Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, a Rutgers University professor at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology.”

That’s not what we thought, was it…….?

“Shenzhen News, a publication of the Guangdong Communist Youth League, described in December how Mr. Tian shuttled through caves and jungles looking for viri in bats and ticks, called “vector organisms,” in the quest to develop vaccines.” He’s been doing this for a long time, at least since 2012. No mention of hazmat suits in the jungle while gathering samples and Professor Ebright was shocked at Tian’s lack of protective gear.

Here’s the kicker: Tian Juhua, the “bat hunter”, has recently disappeared. Searching the Wuhan CDC website since the novel coronavirus outbreak contains no reference to Mr. Tian, his work, or that he co-authored at least two scientific studies on the Wuhan virus and its impact. “Efforts to reach Mr. Tian were not successful.” and “A spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington did not return an email seeking comment.” Yep, Tian has been scrubbed from the website and has disappeared.

From the USA State Dept: ““He lives and works at Wuhan’s CDC, a few hundred yards away from the Huanan wet market,” the official said. “He is among the small team in Wuhan that has contributed to China’s obsession in recent years with virus hunting and research.””

Were you under the assumption the viruses were being studied at the Level 4 Lab? I know I was. In fact, deeper in the Gertz article, from Professor Ebright we learn, that bat viri are studied in labs ……….. all over China. Huh?

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is the big and secure level 4 lab, but all the real work on bat virus was being done across town, about 3 miles away from the Wet Market. ….Which leads us back to Bill Gertz, his discussions with Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, the professor from Rutgers, ……. and the Gertz interview with Steve Bannon on War Room Pandemic.

This means it is highly probably the virus may have escaped as part of research from the Level 2 lab in one of 4 ways, it is a real possibility, and China needs to open the records of both labs to the world:

  1. The virus could have leaked from a sample in transit from the cave back to the CDC in China.
  2. It could have leaked from the Level 2 laboratory.
  3. It could have leaked if the Level 2 lab transported live virus to the Level 4 lab.
  4. The virus could have leaked from the Inst of Virology, the Level 4 Lab.

We need some answers.

Ebright continued in the Washington Examiner article (emphasis is mine):

“Virus collection, culture, isolation or animal infection at BSL-2 with a virus having the transmission characteristics of the outbreak virus would pose high risk of accidental infection of a lab worker, and from the lab worker, the public,” he said.

Mr. Ebright said the Chinese video shows Wuhan CDC workers under Mr. Tian’s direction with inadequate personal protective equipment and unsafe practices, including exposed faces and wrists and a lack of goggles or face shields. Such practices “would pose substantial risk of infection with a virus having transmission properties similar to those of the outbreak virus,” he said.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/

Many western scientists accept the official CCP party line, “Virus was not a bioweapon and did not escape from a lab.”

Steven W. Mosher, however, takes a cynical view. Mosher is a China specialist with the Population Research Institute and said China has been doing research for years on Horseshoe Bat coronavirus, like SARS, detailed in scientific journals, ones which could be harmful and infect humans directly, just like SARS. Mr. Mosher said, “They write about genetically engineering new and deadly viri capable of infecting human lung tissue — just like the Wuhan flu does.”

Bill Gertz found the news report from 2017 and the video was made in 2019.

******UPDATE******

Tucker Carlson did an entire segment on this very story. Senator Cruz wonders why the MSM is not reporting on this story. Well, the Q TREE did report, and we beat Tucker Carlson on the scoop. We really are the news now.

Research Paper from the guys at South China Inst of Technology, now scrubbed. We found it. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228664201452765185.html PDF: https://www.scribd.com/document/447056518/Originsof2019-NCoV-XiaoB-Res#from_embed

20200331: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

Thank you Flep, for the transcript link to presser: Here is the transcript from yesterday’s press briefing: https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-remarks-by-president-trump-vice-president-pen-1842617556

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

Dear KAG: 20200331 Open Thread

Here we are. Tuesday, the day to catch up on all the stuff that we didn’t get to on Monday.

We wish Sylvia, our resident COVID-19 positive patient, well on her recovery.

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Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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NM 21:4-9

From Mount Hor the children of Israel set out on the Red Sea road,
to bypass the land of Edom.
But with their patience worn out by the journey,
the people complained against God and Moses,
“Why have you brought us up from Egypt to die in this desert,
where there is no food or water?
We are disgusted with this wretched food!”

In punishment the LORD sent among the people saraph serpents,
which bit the people so that many of them died.
Then the people came to Moses and said,
“We have sinned in complaining against the LORD and you.
Pray the LORD to take the serpents away from us.”
So Moses prayed for the people, and the LORD said to Moses,
“Make a saraph and mount it on a pole,
and whoever looks at it after being bitten will live.”
Moses accordingly made a bronze serpent and mounted it on a pole,
and whenever anyone who had been bitten by a serpent
looked at the bronze serpent, he lived.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

20200330: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

Dear KMAG: 20200330 Open Topic

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

Yes, it’s Monday…again.

polar-bear-dragging-himself-around

But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.

Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.

Our President is fighting for us night and day…please pray for him.

TrumpWalking

Wheatie’s Rules:

      1. No food fights.
      2. No running with scissors.
      3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Greg Dombrowski of Secession Studios, titled ‘Covenent’:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1s7qRW4OwQ&w=640&h=360]

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While the Fake News Enemedia whip up their fake firestorms…

They continue to fail…

And get all tangled up in their False Narratives!

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Wheatie’s Word of the Day:

Rebarbative

‘Rebarbative’ is an adjective, meaning irritating and repellant…and also unpleasant,  unattractive and annoying.

Used in a sentence:

The rebarbative Demoncrats and their Enemedia operatives continue to be annoying with their manufactured false narratives.

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20200329: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdhJZNxbq3c&feature=emb_logo
Transcript found at: https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-remarks-by-president-trump-in-a-meeting-with-s-1842549869

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

Dear KMAG: 20200329 Open Topic

This Superlative Sanctuary Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

It’s also a place to read, post and discuss news that’s worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

In the QTree, we’re a friendly and civil lot, unencumbered by political correctness. We encourage free speech and the open exchange and civil discussion of different ideas. Topics aren’t constrained, and sound logic is highly encouraged, all built on a solid foundation of truth and established facts.

We have a policy of mutual respect, shown by civility. Civility encourages discussions, promotes objectivity and rational thought in discourse, and camaraderie in the participants – characteristics we strive toward in our Q Tree community.

Please show respect and consideration for your fellow QTreepers.

Before hitting the “post” button, please proofread your post and make sure you’re addressing the issue only, and not trying to confront another poster.

If you feel the need to bare your fangs, we have a companion site – called The U Tree – where all legal speech is allowed and where you can run wild and free with the Wolfpack.

But NOT HERE in The Q Tree. Personal attacks, name calling, ridicule, insults, baiting and other conduct for which a penalty flag would be thrown are VERBOTEN.

In The Q Tree, we’re compatriots, sitting around the campfire, roasting hot dogs, making s’mores and discussing, agreeing, and disagreeing about whatever interests us. This board will remain a home for those who seek respectful conversations.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.

The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.

AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

Our movement is about replacing a failed and CORRUPT political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, you can find something here that will build you up a little . . . give you a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Is It Well With Your Soul?

As interesting as it may be, diving into the intrigue, speculation, players and possible results of a seemingly planned and executed world-wide flu pandemic, it might be beneficial to step back and remember that:

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
but against the rulers, against the authorities,
against the powers of this dark world
and against the spiritual forces of evil
in the heavenly realms.

Throughout history, God has been instructing mankind about the consequences of chasing after sin and about the benefits of following Him.

God allows evil to exert its influence on man, from within and without.  Man, invariably, will be enticed by evil’s schemes.  After a time, God steps in and destroys evil’s scheme, being merciful to man and giving mankind an opportunity to learn, repent and follow Him.

Adam and Eve in Eden, Noah and the Flood, the Tower of Babel, the 10 plagues in Egypt, the Exodus, 40 years in the desert, the 10 Commandments, the conquest of the Promised Land, the good and bad kings of Israel, Esther and Haman, Daniel and the Satraps, David and Bathsheba, the arrival, ministry, rejection and crucifixion of Jesus, the Messiah, and two destructions of the Temple in Jerusalem are a few of the more well-known examples of evil’s influence, mankind’s weakness and opportunities to learn, repent and follow God.

We see this process in historical and recent world events and also in current world events and our daily lives.

The current deadly and injurious coronavirus flu pandemic is a good example.  We know there are certain players in this drama that are not acting out of the best interests of all involved.  The major players might be the government of China, the Communist Party, scientists and organizations that have sold their allegiance for money, Marxists and others who want to see America and her people destroyed and even certain members of the House, Senate, current administration and others.  These people are motivated by lust for power, love of money and desire for fame.

The thing of it is, these people really aren’t the major players . . . they’re 2nd rate bit actors at best.  The major players are the evil powers of this world and in the heavenly realms.

God and His heavenly beings are in opposition to the evil powers of this world and in the heavenly realms. Although God could simply destroy all evil powers with a word from His mouth, He has chosen, for His purposes and plans, to allow evil limited powers and capabilities in their interactions with His heavenly beings and mankind. This is the great battle that is being waged in realms that are visible to us and other realms that are not visible to us.

God uses mankind to implement elements of His will on earth. In that manner, we may be participants in this great battle, and may not merely be spectators. We are to wear the armor of God so that we can stand in this battle. But, whatever our involvement, God has already won the war . . . it must, however, be played out to complete God’s will and plan for mankind.

In this present struggle we may become fearful of getting sick, of the discomfort and pain, and for the loss of our lives. All of this is very much real, but since each of us will die sometime, our main concern should be for the condition of our souls.

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear the One who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.  Matthew 10:28

Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.  1 Peter 5:8

Therefore we must pay much closer attention to what we have heard, lest we drift away from it.  Hebrews 2:1

We can’t allow ourselves to be consumed with either fear or the desire for justice or vengeance.

If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.   Romans 12:18-19

Our prize is not now, nor of this world. But, someday in the future, probably after our brief lives have been completed, we will by command, at the shout, at the last trump, be called to become eternal citizens of our true homeland. Pain and sorrow and the sickness of our present world will be left far behind, along with our present perspective of the flu and the world.

Last thoughts for the present time:

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.  2 Chronicles 7:14

Another thought for this time of upheaval in our lives:

Anxiety, fear and loss of control;
You fear for your life, but what of your soul?
Of all things true, man was born and will die
And then the Judgment by our Lord on High.

We pray for revival, all over our land,
That we turn to God and His merciful hand.
Let us be humble and ever seek His face,
His peace, His joy and His bountiful grace.

The Armor of God – Ephesians 6

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints—

20200328: CoronaCRISIS/China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

(Placeholder for the WH Daily Presser)

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

Dear KMAG: 20200328 Open Topic

TreeFortress

Welcome! The door is open, come on inside!

interiorSanctuary

This Fortress Q Tree Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.

Our President is fighting for us night and day…please pray for him.

POTUS meme

Wheatie’s Rules:

      1. No food fights.
      2. No running with scissors.
      3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this mix of three compositions by Aaron Sapp, titled (01) ‘A Hero Rides With Us’, (02) ‘Our Time Is Now’ [at 02:07] and (03) ‘Warriors To The End’ [at 04:23]:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1xzKtMqe_4&w=640&h=360]

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Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful:

Header and First Image: Is an enormous Tree standing alone in a clearing with a giant door built into the base of the trunk. A lone figure is approaching the doorway. There are patches of moss and small leafy branches emerging up and down the gnarled trunk.

Second Image: Is an interior room with vaulted ceilings and arched throughways. There is a sturdy-looking couch with throw pillows and nearby armchairs. Behind the couch is a table and chairs…and there are additional seating groups in the adjacent spaces.

Third Image: Is President Trump walking in the rain towards the steps of Air Force One, carrying an umbrella. The text on this image reads: The Storm Is Upon Us – God We Ask That You Shelter and Protect Our President.

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The Enemedia is cheering on the ChiComVirus…but we refuse to buy what they are selling!

Meanwhile…it’s Caturday:

 

20200327: Letter to the President from American Assoc of Physicians and Surgeons.

It’s an excellent letter from the Executive Director of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons to the President of the United States during the midst of an unparalleled health crisis. https://drive.google.com/file/d/15TwCtLCyP8ptFlQAK_0N_gxINUOHbHxn/view

March 21, 2020

President Donald J. Trump
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW,
Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

Members of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), representing thousands of physicians in all specialties in all states, would like to express our gratitude for your leadership at this time of crisis. We are thankful for your calm, rational approach and for your recognition of the need to control our borders, support private enterprise, restore our capability to manufacture essential items such as drugs and medical equipment, and relieve medical practice and the economy as a whole from the burden of counterproductive taxation and regulation.

Faced with a novel virus that could overwhelm our medical system, we need rapid deployment of testing, adequate supplies of protective equipment, a surge capacity for hospital beds and medical manpower, and better treatment options.

For testing, South Korea is a hundred thousand tests ahead of us. Why is this, despite the immense capability that we have in industry and university laboratories? The entrenched federal bureaucracy in the FDA and CDC blocked these efforts until a window of opportunity had closed.

The federal government has a stranglehold on laboratory medicine because of the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Act (CLIA). Deviation from complex regulations could destroy a laboratory. SARS-CoV-2 testing is complex and fraught with pitfalls. We need independent efforts, not a government-imposed monopoly. In addition to testing for the virus, which has many false positives and false negatives, we need tests for acute (IgM) and convalescent (IgG) antibodies, so far not part of the approved regimen.

Our capacity to manufacture antibiotics, vitamin C, protective gear, and most other drugs was outsourced overseas decades ago. Your Administration needs to investigate the reasons for this, including the single-source contracts that benefit Group Purchasing Organizations (GPOs) and Pharmacy Benefits Managers (PBMs). These are enabled by a safe harbor in the Anti-kickback Statute and the failure of HHS to enforce the safeguards. (This is also a huge factor in high prices.)

The culpability of the FDA must not be overlooked. FDA has the power to shut down U.S. production of a pharmaceutical because of noncompliance issues that have no effect on safety or quality, such as exceeding a production quota or a paperwork oversight. Yet the FDA has no meaningful oversight of the production of the 90 percent of our medications that are made in China and other foreign nations. Nor has it responded to national security concerns about drug supply lines.

The FDA has a crippling effect on innovation, with $1 to $2 billion worth of requirements to bring a new drug to market. This still does not guarantee safety, as shown by the number of drugs that have to be withdrawn. Worse, the FDA is increasingly trying to expand its authority over the practice of medicine as in the “off-label” use of approved medications. Medical practice would be crippled if physicians had to wait years for the approval of each and every use of long-established drugs—or forever if no one saw the benefit in investing billions in the approval process.

We thank you for helping to make the long-established anti-malarial drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine available for treating COVID-19. In our opinion, a “compassionate-use exception” is not needed because these drugs are already approved for another use. It would be needed for a not-yet-approved drug such as resdemivir.

The FDA wants to address this crisis with an FDA-approved vaccine, which takes more than a year to develop and test (and may not even prove to be safe and effective), not by inexpensive generic medication available now without control by the FDA.

Americans need the right to try. This should apply to all, not just to terminal cancer patients. It should certainly include safe interventions such as intravenous vitamin C, which the FDA is trying to ban. Note that 50 tons of vitamin C was shipped to Wuhan recently, and efficacy studies are underway there.

We appreciate your effort to ameliorate the shortage of medical personnel by allowing payment for telemedicine consultations, and your previous efforts to reduce the Medicare documentation burdens. Practitioners estimate that their productivity is decreased by at least 20 percent by electronic medical records, coding requirements, MIPS, and so on. Why should physicians, like other professionals such as lawyers, not set their own fees without being tied to thousands of codes invented by the AMA and the WHO? Why couldn’t doctors get paid for treating COVID-19 without the AMA inventing a code for it? Why should insurers be dictating what care patients may receive, and what they may pay? Insurers should be transparent about what and how much they will reimburse, without interference in private arrangements. Likewise, government should not be dictating the terms of consensual arrangements.

A surge response is hindered by government licensure requirements. In federal facilities such as the Veterans Administration and correctional facilities, physicians may work if licensed by any state. In a national emergency, one state license should be sufficient for a physician to practice either in person or by telemedicine. A medical license might be honored in all states just as a driver’s license is.

Please also consider how medical school graduates who are unable to find a residency program match (approaching 10,000 grads per year) can be put to work helping patients during this time of increased need for medical care. These physicians often have twice the amount of training as nurse practitioners or physician assistants but are impeded from helping patients in clinical care settings.

We applaud efforts at all government levels to allow medical staff to work without time-devouring, pointless regulatory shackles. After a temporary reprieve, we hope that you will consider permanent relief.

We appreciate your understanding of the severe harm caused by the Chinese government’s lack of transparency in the early days. Please do not allow the U.S. to similarly constrain the flow of information from all sources. There are many unknowns. We need input from all who have experiences or ideas. We will not be able to sort out the errors from the facts until much more is known. Censorship should be anathema in these United States!

Most importantly, we need the right to try, and the right to communicate. While we need to minimize casualties from COVID-19, we must also survive as a constitutional Republic. We must not overlook old potential allies like the one George Washington used to protect his troops, the bark that contained quinine, of which chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are analogs. Americans were protected against the malaria epidemic; the British were not. This unappreciated ally probably turned the tide at Yorktown.

Please let us know how we can be helpful.

Most respectfully,

Jane M. Orient. M.D.
Executive Director
Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

CC Sen. Mitch McConnell, Rep. Kevin McCarthy

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