2024·10·05 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

January 6 Tapes?

Paging Speaker Johnson…this is your conscience calling you out on broken promises.

For all your high talk about your Christian moral background…you’re looking less and less like you have any kind of moral background.

If You are a Patriot and Don’t Loathe RINOs…

Let’s talk about RINOs, and why they are the lowest form of life in politics.

Many patriots have been involved with politics, often at the grassroots, for decades. We’ve fought, and fought, and fought and won the occasional illusory small victory.

Yet we can’t seem to win the war, even when we have BIG electoral wins.

I am reminded of something. The original Star Trek had an episode titled Day of the Dove. It was one of the better episodes from the third season, but any fan of the original series will tell you that’s a very low bar. Still, it seems to get some respect; at a time when there were about 700 episodes of Star Trek in its various incarnations out there, it was voted 99th best out of the top 100.

In sum, the plot is that an alien entity has arranged for 39 Enterprise crew, and 39 Klingons, to fight each other endlessly with swords and other muscle-powered weapons. The entity lives off of hostile emotions, you see and it wants a captive food source. (The other 400 or so Enterprise crew are trapped below decks and unable to help.) Each side has its emotions played and amplified by the alien entity; one Enterprise junior officer has false memories implanted of a brother who was killed by Klingons. The brother didn’t even exist.

Even people killed in a sword fight miraculously heal so they can go do it again.

The second best line of the episode is when Kang, the Klingon captain, notes that though they have won quite a number of small victories including capturing Engineering, can’t seem to actually finally defeat the Enterprise crew. He growls, “What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*”

Indeed. He may have been the bad guy, but his situation should sound familiar.

We are a majority in this country. We have a powerful political party in our corner. There is endless wrangling.

And yet,

What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?

In our case, that power is the RINOs in our midst. They specialize in caving when on the verge of victory. Think of Obamacare’s repeal failing…by one Republican vote. Think of the way we can never seem to get spending under control (and now our entire tax revenue goes to pay interest on the debt; anything the government actually does now is with borrowed money).

We have a party…that refuses to do what we want it to do, and that refusal is institutionalized. If you’ve been involved with GOP politics, but haven’t seen this, it’s because you refuse to see it. Or because you are part of the problem yourself. (If so, kindly gargle some red fuming nitric acid to clear the taste of shit out of your mouth, and let those not part of the problem alone so they can read this.)

We fight to elect people, who then take a dive when in office. But it’s not just the politicians in office, it’s the people behind the scenes, the leaders of the national, state and county branches of the party. Their job is to ensure that real patriots never get onto the general election ballot. They’re allowed a few failures…who can then become token conservatives who will somehow never manage to win (Jordan), or can be compromised outright (Lauren Boebert?).

That way it doesn’t actually matter who has a congressional majority. I remember my excitement when the GOP took the Senate in 1980. But all that did was empower a bunch of “moderate” puddles of dog vomit like…well for whatever reason forty years later the most memorable name is Pete Domenici. And a couple of dozen other “moderates” who simply had no interest in doing what grassroots people in their party–those same grassroots people who had worked so hard to elect them–wanted them to do.

Oh, they’ll put up a semblance of a fight…but never win. And they love it when we fight the Dems instead of fighting them. Just like that alien entity, whose motto surely was “Let’s you and him fight. It’ll be delicious!”

If you think about it, your entire political involvement has come to nothing because of these walking malignant tumors.

That should make you good and mad.

The twenty five who blocked Jordan, and the hundred people who took that opportunity to stab Jordan in the back in the secret ballot should make you good and mad.

I’ll close this with another example of RINO backstabbing, an infuriating one close to home.

In my county, the GOP chair is not a RINO. She got elected when the grassroots had had enough of the RINOs. Unfortunately the state organization is full of RINOs, and the ousted county RINOs have been trying to form a new “Republican Party” and get the state GOP to recognize them as the affiliate. I’m honestly amazed it hasn’t happened yet.

In other words those shitstains won’t just leave when they get booted out; they’ll try to destroy what they left behind. It’s an indication that they know we know how important that behind-the-scenes party power is.

So they must be destroyed. That’s the only way they’ll ever stop.

We cannot win until the leeches “on our side” get destroyed.

What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*

We know it. What is going to be done about it?

*NOTE: The original line was actually “What power is it that supports our battle yet starves our victory.” I had mis-remembered it as feeds. When I checked it, it sure enough was “supports” and that’s what I originally quoted. On further reflection, though, I realized my memory was actually an improvement over the reality, because feeds is a perfect contrast with starves. I changed it partway through the day this originally posted, but now (since this is a re-run) it gets rendered this way from the start.

If one must do things wrong, one should do them wrong…right.

RINOs an Endangered Species?
If Only!

According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.

Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.

I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.

But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.

The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the so-called populists stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.

Given the results of our most recent elections, the Left will now push harder, and the RINOs will now turn even squishier than they were before.

I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.

This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you lying piece of rancid weasel shit?

Justice

It says “Justice” on the picture.

And I’m sure someone will post the standard joke about what the fish thinks about the situation.

But what is it?

Here’s a take, from a different context: It’s about how you do justice, not the justice that must be done to our massively corrupt government and media. You must properly identify the nature of a person, before you can do him justice.

Ayn Rand, On Justice (speaking through her character John Galt, in Atlas Shrugged):

Justice is the recognition of the fact that you cannot fake the character of men as you cannot fake the character of nature, that you must judge all men as conscientiously as you judge inanimate objects, with the same respect for truth, with the same incorruptible vision, by as pure and as rational a process of identification—that every man must be judged for what he is and treated accordingly, that just as you do not pay a higher price for a rusty chunk of scrap than for a piece of shining metal, so you do not value a rotter above a hero—that your moral appraisal is the coin paying men for their virtues or vices, and this payment demands of you as scrupulous an honor as you bring to financial transactions—that to withhold your contempt from men’s vices is an act of moral counterfeiting, and to withhold your admiration from their virtues is an act of moral embezzlement—that to place any other concern higher than justice is to devaluate your moral currency and defraud the good in favor of the evil, since only the good can lose by a default of justice and only the evil can profit—and that the bottom of the pit at the end of that road, the act of moral bankruptcy, is to punish men for their virtues and reward them for their vices, that that is the collapse to full depravity, the Black Mass of the worship of death, the dedication of your consciousness to the destruction of existence.

Ayn Rand identified seven virtues, chief among them rationality. The other six, including justice, she considered subsidiary because they are essentially different aspects and applications of rationality.

—Ayn Rand Lexicon (aynrandlexicon.com)

Justice Must Be Done.

Trump, it is supposed, had some documents.

Biden and company stole the country.

I’m sure enough of this that I put my money where my mouth is.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2024 or 2026 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $2,658.90
Silver $31.72
Platinum $1,010.00
Palladium $1,038.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 127.624+
Gold:Silver 83.824+

This week, at Friday close:

Gold $2,654.30
Silver $32.26
Platinum $999.00
Palladium $1,038.00
Rhodium $5,025.00
FRNSI* 127.402-
Gold:Silver 82.278+

Interestingly silver did fairly well this week (it’s now worth more than 1/83rd of an ounce of gold now), gold, on the other hand, is slightly down, Platinum seems to be the biggest loser this week.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

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A Common Phenomenon

Regardless of what you think about Flat Earth, this video should serve to illustrate a common mistake that I see many “conspiracy theorists” (the stupid kind I mean) make.

Basically the man in question went to the NBC website and saw a distorted version of this very famous, even iconic photograph, which even has a nickname, the Blue Marble, because when it came out in the early 1970s there was all sorts of buzz about how the Earth was a Big Blue Marble (great way to propagandize the kiddies!):

…and then proceeded on the implicit assumption that the distortion was the original. In the distortion, it appears as though the Red Sea (between Egypt and Saudi Arabia) was cut in half. Since it isn’t in fact cut in half, he assumed this was proof that the Blue Marble photo was originally faked. (BTW this photo should be 3000 pixels across if you want to fullscreen it, etc. As a bonus, it shows Antarctica so that’s doubly annoying to flerfers.)

When he did a bit more searching for the image, including on the NASA website, he started finding the actual original (with properly rendered Red Sea) a lot and assumed that NASA or someone had been going all over the web and cleaning up their mistakes…except, apparently, on NBC’s website, which somehow got overlooked.

I can assure anyone here who might actually think this guy is onto something and the distortion is the real version, that I have print books from the 1970s that show the photo with an uninterrupted Red Sea. Unless you want to claim that NASA broke into my house and swapped out the books with equally-worn copies…

This is a classic example of a phenomenon I see sometimes…a person with a nutty conspiracy theory latches onto the first thing they see, and if it happens to contain a bona fide error in it, there’s no convincing them of it; they will spin a huge unlikely story as to how “their” version of whatever it was is the correct one, and that the correct one is actually the fake used for a cover up.

Another example of this was a report early on in the Sandy Hook saga that described the wrong gun as being in someone’s trunk. Attempts to correct it were treated as part of the cover up. Interesting that people who would normally have no trouble believing a YSM jurinalist would fuck up especially when the subject was eeevil gunz, believed that this particular jurinalist at this particular time was infallible–because they wanted to believe Sandy Hook was a fake.

What’s going on in both cases is seizing on (apparent) evidence that one’s pet mistaken theory is true, and resisting any attempt to show that this particular piece of evidence, at least, is flawed–sometimes to the point of having to posit another incredibly elaborate or expensive effort to hide the “real” evidence. A mistake, a distorted jpeg, or something similar. This is actually a form of confirmation bias.

The Moons of Jupiter

Jupiter has 95 (yes, ninety five) known moons (as of 5 February 2024). When I was a kid, the number was twelve, though older books in the elementary school library would show eleven. Then a 13th moon was discovered when I was ten (1974), another one the following year, and then the Voyager spacecraft found three more…and at that point they decided they really ought to get on with naming them. The first five or so had been named for quite some time, it was the remaining six seven eight nine (dammit) twelve that hadn’t been officially named though there were several suggested lists. (The next discovery wasn’t until 2000; the remaining 78 moons have all been discovered since then). Today, of course the list has outstripped our ability to think of names and the newly discovered ones are given temporary designators like S2022 J 3, for 3rd Satellite of Jupiter discovered in 2022.

Astronomers love to categorize things. And the moons of Jupiter are no exception. There are nine categories and I will cover them almost in order of distance from the planet.

The Main Moons, or Galilean Moons, are Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto, in order outwards from Jupiter. These are BIG. They are bigger than any dwarf planet (and that includes Pluto). Ganymede is bigger than Mercury and Callisto almost beats Mercury as well. All are spherical, as one would expect from bodies that size. The innermost orbits at 422 thousand kilometers (from the center of gravity of the Jovian system, essentially the same as the center of Jupiter), the outermost at 1,883 thousand kilometers. (For comparison, our Moon orbits at 384 thousand kilometers, so these are all further from Jupiter than our Moon is from us.) These were all discovered about 30 milliseconds after Galileo first pointed a telescope at Jupiter in 1610; you can see them in binoculars. They all orbit in nearly circular orbits (the key word, as we will see, is nearly), in planes within half a degree of Jupiter’s equatorial plane, all in a prograde (forward) direction. Forward, here, means counterclockwise as seen from way out in space, over the Sun’s north pole. Almost every large body in the solar system both orbits (either the sun or a planet) and rotates prograde, including Earth and the Moon.

Another group of four moons are called the “Inner Moons,” they all orbit within the orbit of Io. The first of these is the first moon to be discovered since Galileo, in 1892, and got named Amalthea. Amalthea is an irregular lump about 167 km across. Much smaller than the Galilean satellites and too small to force itself into a spherical shape. The other three are the ones discovered by the Voyager spacecraft in 1979/80, and are considerably smaller still. There’s also a lot of debris in that region, forming Jupiter’s rather tenuous ring system. Again, these are in nice and tidy, nearly circular orbits in Jupiter’s equatorial plane, all prograde.

Together these groups are called the “Regular Satellites” of Jupiter, which means the other 87 moons are all “Irregular Satellites.”

The Irregular Satellites all orbit much further away from Jupiter than Callisto (the outermost regular satellite). These in turn are divided into prograde and retrograde (orbiting backwards) groupings, each of those is divided again into actual groups. There is a naming convention, too. A prograde irregular moon will have a name ending in -a. A retrograde irregular moon will have a name ending in -e. Not withstanding this, a moon with a very high inclination will have a name ending in -o, whether or not it’s retrograde or prograde.

Prograde groups include Themisto…which is a group all unto itself. It’s the innermost of the irregular satellites averaging roughly 7.4 million km from Jupiter. It’s in a very elliptical orbit (0.340 on a scale from 0 [circular] to 0.9999… [skinniest ellipse possible]) at a 43.8 degree inclination, not at all tidy. It takes about 130 days to complete one orbit about Jupiter.

The next group is the Himalia group of nine satellites, named after its largest member, which is roughly 140 km across. They all orbit at about a 28 degree inclination with eccentricities ranging from 0.1 to 0.24. Average distance from Jupiter is 11.1 to 12.3 million kilometers, most of them being 11.4 or 11.7. They take about 260 days to orbit Jupiter. Four of these are big enough to be in the “classic” 14 satellites from before Voyager I and 2. These orbits are all quite similar to each other, hence the grouping together. It’s likely these were all part of a larger body at some time in the past.

The Carpo group, 2 satellites, are 16-17 million kilometers from Jupiter and are inclined at 50 degrees, which subjects them to all sorts of wacky perturbations resulting in cyclical changes to their orbits. Their eccentricities are very different from each other.

And then there is Valetudo, a group unto itself, in an eccentric orbit 17 million kilometers from Jupiter, at a lesser inclination than the Carpo group. It actually crosses the orbits of other groups’ satellites.

Now we get to the retrograde groups, three of them. The Ananke group ranges from 19-22 million kilometers from Jupiter and there are 26 of them. A quick eyeball scan of the list on Wikipedia shows inclinations from 145-152 degrees. (A retrograde orbit can also be thought of as going forward, but with an inclination of over 90 degrees so it’s “flipped over”, and this is how they get listed in tables of orbital elements.) Inclinations are mostly 0.20 to 0.23. It’s thought that these have a common origin, their orbits are just too similar for it to be pure chance.

The other two groups are the Carme and Pasiphae groups, with 30 and 18 members respectively. They overlap in terms of average distance from Jupiter, 22.6-24.2 million kilometers from Jupiter, taking as long as two Earth years to make one orbit. The Carme group inclinations are all about 164 degrees (i.e., 74 degrees but going around backwards), the Pasiphae groups are in a broader range centering on 150 degrees or so. In each case the satellites in each group are thought to have a common origin.

“Common origin” or “were once part of a larger body”, by the way, imply that there are more undiscovered fragments of what they used to be. The smallest size I see in the table is ~1 km, but conceivably there could be a lot of smaller and smaller pieces. 100 meters, boulder size, gravel size, sand grain size…at what point do you stop and say “this isn’t a moon any more”? It’s a serious question from me, actually. I’m sure that “real” astronomers have given it thought, but I don’t know if they ever actually came to a decision. It did, after all, take hundreds of years for them to define “planet” and they were only forced to do that when they found too many edge cases…a story for another time. (And here, they haven’t started finding really small items in Jovian orbit…when that happens they’ll have to decide where to draw the line if they haven’t already.)

So…broad patterns? Note that the retrograde satellites (by count, most of the satellites are in these groups) are all further out than any of the prograde ones. The retrogrades are almost always 2 km or less in size, though each group has one fairly large body in it, 35-60 km across, probably the “main” piece of whatever broke up to form the group. It’s thought that the retrograde groups resulted from captured asteroids.

There also seems to be a hard 24 million kilometer limit. I haven’t cranked numbers but I suspect that beyond this range the Sun’s gravitational pull is stronger than Jupiter’s, so it would tend to grab any satellite of Jupiter’s that happened to be in a larger orbit than this.

In any case, the retrogrades are basically debris, and even the irregular progrades are basically junk too. Except for the fact that they make good studies in orbital mechanics, they’re pretty uninteresting.

The interesting moons are the Galilean moons. And with that I submit my entry to the understatement of the year contest.

The Galilean Moons
(because who gives a rat’s ass about the other 91 moons?)

The Galilean moons are, in order outward from Jupiter, Io, Europa, Ganymede and Callisto. Jupiter plus these moons actually looks like a miniature solar system, and you’ll hear the term “Jovian system” used to refer to the ensemble as a whole.

Although Galileo is given credit for discovering these moons, they were also seen by Simon Marius, and he gave them their names; Galileo simply called them Jupiter I, Jupiter II, and so on, a system which continues to this day; now Roman numerals are given out to newly discovered moons in the order they are named.

“Io” is pronounced “EYO-oh.” Don’t be like the clueless science jurinalist who pronounced it “ten” when the Voyagers flew by. (In his defense, that was the era when Bo Derek was the Queen Hot Woman of All Time thanks to the movie 10…for a whole two months.)

Here is a picture showing relative sizes, Jupiter and the four Galileans, in order top to bottom. This is actually a composite, just to show relative sizes; you’d never see this exact thing all at once.

And another, a real-time shot of Jupiter and all four Galileans. Since some are closer than others, it’s not quite to scale; it is however a “real” snapshot of all five bodies at the same time. If you were to somehow have been able to stand there, this is what you’d have seen. Two of the moons are probably invisible; if so, right click and select “open image in new tab” and even there they will be just single-pixel dots, and one is barely more than a dot)

And now for some raw numbers, with our own Moon tossed in for comparison:

NameDiameter (km)Distance from Primary (km)Orbital Period
(days)
Orbital Period (compared to Io)Density (water = 1)
Io3660421,8001.76913.528
Europa3121.6671,1003.55123.014
Ganymede5268.21,070,4007.15541.942
Callisto4820.61,882,70016.6899.41.834
Moon3474.8384,39927.3irrelevant3.344

Note that Ganymede is by far the largest; it’s even larger than the planet Mercury.

But also note something else: In the time it takes Ganymede to orbit Jupiter once, Europa will orbit exactly twice, and Io will orbit exactly four times. This is known as an orbital resonance. However, they won’t line up all at once. Io will lap Europa on one side of Jupiter, and then on the other side of Jupiter, Europa will lap Ganymede. See the animation below, where the inner moons will lap “above” Jupiter, and Europa and Ganumede will lap “below” Jupiter.

That’s a simulation, what’s below is based on actual data (notice the time stamp):

This turns out to be important.

Another thing to note is the average densities. Io and Europa (and our Moon) all have densities a bit above 3.0 that of water. We know our own moon is a big ball of rock with very little nickel-iron in its core. And your average generic rock has about that density (though there are plenty of kinds of minerals that come in far higher, such as for instance native gold, a/k/a gold nuggets). So this isn’t unreasonable for moons of Jupiter. However Ganymede and Callisto are considerably less dense, an indication that they are largely ice.

Jupiter I: Io

Io has a very unusual appearance, it almost looks like a pizza. As it happens, it is the most volcanically active body in the solar system. If you don’t like its looks, come back an a few centuries; the entire surface will have been replaced. That’s how volcanic it is. it even has mountains taller than Everest!

This is a pair of pictures of Tvashtar Paterae, taken in November 1999 and February 2000, and yes, that’s lava in the right hand frame.

Volcanism requires heat. And if you’ll recall, Mars…a considerably larger body…does not have volcanism any more (in spite of the largest known volcano being there). Mars has cooled off too much. Why hasn’t Io cooled off?

The answer is (wait for it) tidal forces. (I warned you before I started the tour of the solar system that tidal forces would show up when you least expect them…I did warn you.) Io is in a slightly elliptical orbit (very slightly but still, not quite perfectly circular) and that means it slows down and speeds up in different parts of its orbit, while its rotation (tidally locked to Jupiter) is at a constant rate. This causes Io to stretch and compress, which generates the heat, which causes the insane amounts of volcanism. The surface coloration is largely sulfur. Io’s eruptions have been captured on camera by Voyager, the Galileo orbiter, and Juno.

Some of the stuff that gets erupted ends up in orbit around Io, as very small particles perhaps even single atoms, and some of that gets heated and escapes into orbit around Jupiter. At some point much of this stuff gets ionized. As a result there’s a “neutral cloud” near Io, and a donut or torus of ionized matter roughly where Io orbits. Since this stuff is charged and moving, it actually contributes to Jupiter’s magnetic field…perhaps as much as 50 percent of the total.

This picture not only shows the torus of ionized Io-stuff in red and the neutral cloud in yellow, it shows a third feature in green, the flux tube, which connects Io to Jupiter’s polar regions and can cause aurora-like displays in Jupiter’s atmosphere. But Io itself can have interesting displays, visible when it is in Jupiter’s shadow:

(From the caption on Wikipoo: Auroral glows in Io’s upper atmosphere. Different colors represent emission from different components of the atmosphere (green comes from emitting sodium, red from emitting oxygen, and blue from emitting volcanic gases like sulfur dioxide). Image taken while Io was in eclipse.)

Another source of tidal forces is the pull of Europa and Callisto, with the resonances enhancing the effect.

This was a total surprise when it was discovered back around 1980. And since then it has become clear to planetary scientists that in many cases the moons of the outer planets can be more interesting than the planets themselves.

Jupiter II: Europa

Most especially the second Galilean moon, Europa. What we see when we look at Europa is a solid sheet of ice; it’s the smoothest body in the solar system, and appears to have a 100km thick layer of water above the typical rocky interior. What makes it interesting, though, is that that 100km layer is almost certainly not frozen solid. It’s probably tens of kilometers of ice, sure, but above a world-wide ocean of liquid water, a lot of it, probably more than we have on Earth. (So aliens coming here to steal our water [which is ridiculous because water is almost certainly the most common compound in the universe] would be better off going to Europa.)

(From Wikipoo caption: Closeup views of Europa obtained on 26 September 1998; images clockwise from upper left show locations from north to south as indicated at lower left.)

That water is likely heated by volcanic activity too, for the same reason as Io…but less so. Tidal forces are much lower here. However, the forces will often crack the ice layer, and liquid water will rise under the pressure, with the breaks freezing over, which results in the darker lines. These areas might offer better access to the water, which we want because…

Water is the one thing all life (that we know of!) needs. Not oxygen, but water! This makes Europa a prime candidate for extraterrestrial life, especially since we know that on Earth, “smokers” on the ocean floor host entire ecosystems, and such “smokers” are almost certainly present on Io.

Neil deGrasse Tyson, staying in his lane academically, has said he wants to go ice fishing on Io. He’s not alone in this.

On the 10th of this month, we will launch the Europa Clipper, a spacecraft that will orbit Jupiter, but do so in a way that maximizes the time it will spend on Europa flybys. It’s the largest interplanetary spacecraft developed by NASA. Since it is so big, the booster needs help; it will do gravity boosts off Earth and Mars before arriving at Jupiter in April 2030. This is just a preliminary for a Europa Lander, still on the drawing board.

We’re going after Europa with gusto!

Jupiter III: Ganymede

Ganymede is also covered in ice, with a likely liquid ocean 200km down. It’s colder and harder to get to, so it’s not as tantalizing as Europa. It’s not completely geologically dead: it apparently has at least some liquid iron in its core since it actually possesses a magnetosphere (so far the only moon known to do so). It’s the largest moon in the solar system. As I’ve noted before, it’s actually larger than the planet Mercury, but only 45 percent as massive since so much of it is ice, and because Mercury has a very large iron core for its size. The surface area is in fact over half as much as all of the land on Earth. Unfortunately, it’s mostly ice–and not just a covering, but a full crustal layer of it–and blasted by radiation from Jupiter’s magnetosphere, so it turns out not to be a good place for a realtor to hang a “for sale” sign.

This is Tros crater. In mythology, Tros was Ganymede’s father, and Ganymede himself was Jupiter’s cupbearer (and likely homosexual lover)

Ganymede also has the distinction of being the largest body in the solar system with no significant atmosphere.

Jupiter IV: Callisto

Callisto is a bit smaller than Ganymede, and is the third largest moon in the solar system. (#2 is Titan, a moon of Saturn. And our moon is at #5, just ahead of Europa.) Callisto is remarkable for being very heavily cratered, an indication that its surface has not eroded much or been “worked over” by processes on Callisto itself. It’s far enough out from Jupiter to have very little effect from tidal forces, and it’s not in any sort of resonance with the other moons. Callisto, in fact, has an impact basin named Valhalla, which is 3800 kilometers across!

Callisto may, in fact, be an even mixture of rock and ice, not even having differentiated much with the heavy stuff going down to the core when it formed.

Of the four, Callisto is of least interest for finding life, but it is of great interest for perhaps preserving it. It’s far enough away from Jupiter’s magnetic field and radiation belts that it could perhaps be useful for a manned base from which we could explore the rest of the Jovian system.

(From Wikipoo: Voyager 1 image of Valhalla, a multi-ring impact structure 3,800 km in diameter)

So that is a summary of the Moons of Jupiter, all of which rank among the most interesting bodies in our solar system. Were they not in orbit about Jupiter, they’d all be planets in their own right.

As a bonus I will conclude with this diagram, which shows many of the moons in the Solar System, with Pluto and Earth thrown in for good measure. Any moon large enough to force itself into a spherical shape is shown here.

(Oh, and note the Red Sea glitch doesn’t appear on this copy of the Blue Marble photo.)

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cthulhu

“Y’know, after taking this fish home for the eaglets, Justice requires that I find a warm birdbath in which I can soak my feet for an hour.”

— The Eagle

scott467

“Basically the man in question went to the NBC website and saw a distorted version of this very famous, even iconic photograph, which even has a nickname, the Blue Marble, because when it came out in the early 1970s there was all sorts of buzz about how the Earth was a Big Blue Marble (great way to propagandize the kiddies!):”

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There was also a TV show called the Big Blue Marble, 1974-1983. I didn’t realize it lasted so long, I just remember watching it the first season or two.

Looks like it was a total propaganda effort 😂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Blue_Marble

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“Distinctive content included stories about children around the world and a pen-pal club that encouraged intercultural communication. The name of the show referred to the appearance of Earth as a giant marble, popularized by The Blue Marble, a famous photograph taken in December 1972 by the crew of Apollo 17.

Each episode featured a segment about the real life of a boy and a girl, one American, the other foreign. The show also had occasional stories about world ecology. In addition there was a weekly segment in which a singing globe “Bluey” invited viewers to write letters to the show, often requests for pen pals.

The address to send the letters was in Santa Barbara, California. The character was voiced by executive producer Robert Wiemer.”
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TheseTruths

I’m halfway through the QR code video, which is fascinating. I like learning about the history and the steps leading to what we have today.

scott467

COL. Douglas Macgregor: Israel is getting SLAUGHTERED in Lebanon, Americans are trapped | Redacted
“Americans are scrambling right now trying to get out of Lebanon as the US is bracing for a wider war with Israel. Col. Macgregor says his sources confirm that Israeli soldiers are taking heavy casualties in Lebanon.”

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There are a lot of places in the world I wouldn’t want to be in right now, and Lebanon, or anywhere in the Middle East, is definitely high on the list.

I’m always curious what private American citizens are doing in places where it is so obviously and insanely dangerous to be an American, much less in a potential (or actual) war zone.

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smiley2

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kalbokalbs

Macgregor video above well worth listening in on.

Far ranging discussion. Moves quickly.

Seems Ukraine has launched long range missile at the nuke plant. Macgregor hypothesizes UK or French missiles. (I’d guess UK.)

  • Me. This may be the match that gets Russia to response more robustly to Ukraine AND UK or France. Once Russia determines missile origin.
  • Zelensky getting more reckless. Hoping Zelensky personally meets FAFO. Can’t believe the asshole still breaths.

ME. OMG.

  • USG has essentially abandoned 7,000 Americans in Lebanon. In past administration, USG would get them out.
  • Israel ground forces getting slaughtered.
  • Significant oil for Israel flows through Turkey. Hmmm.
  • Turkey may be on the verge of joining the fight against Israel.
  • Macgregor said Israel NOT responding to the ~180 Iran launched missiles IS an indication, Iran in fact destroyed significant IDF AF capability. Iran did use some hypersonic missiles.
  • Backbone of IDF, IS Israel AF. PERIOD. Me. Weak link for a foe to break.
  • Iran has said no more restraint. Macgregor said Turkey can launch 100 missiles an hour for five days. Of course Iran won’t do that. Take out Israel AF and perhaps Israel stop operations in Lebanon.
  • First I’ve heard, Israel my want to use Cyprus airfields as a launch point to attack Iran.

^^^ Ingredients for USG sponsored WWIII. USG could stop the lunacy if they wished to do so.

Combine above with USG sponsored invasion of illegals into US.

Then, add in the criminal neglect of Americans needing immediate aid in NC.

pgroup2

Well, I think I’ll wait for some conformation on the ‘slaughtered in Lebanon’ part. Ditto the Iran hypersonic missile part.

I think Mac is getting out over his skis just a bit.

kalbokalbs

I certainly don’t buy into everything Macgregor says.

Slaughter. I buy it. Depends on the version of slaughtered. In any case, ambushed. Clips are out there, the Israeli armor is being destroyed. One at a time. Numbers. Dunno. No one will tell us the truth. Tanks can be stopped, rather easily. Anyone surviving in the tank, must come out, sooner or later. Whether the bad guy waits around, who knows.

Hypersonic missile. Not believable? Week or two ago I’d have guessed Houthie’s did not have hypersonic missiles. Iran has hypersonic missiles. Why not use one or more?

  • Israel certainly took some hits. Seems some significant.
para59r

Well one thing we are doing is giving Lebanon 157 million to pay for the relocation efforts brought on by Israel’s relentless bombings. Happened yesterday.

scott467

It’s an intentional demoralization campaign.

That money will never see Lebanon, it is being embezzled, like ALL the rest of the money.

They know they’re going to lose the election, and they are looting the country on their way out the door.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. And the money will be sent through Israel, which will take their big cut and then handle the kickbacks.

TheseTruths

Gunther Eagleman:

WATCH: JD Vance sends a warning to all illegal immigrants in America.

“You have four months to pack your bags because you are going home.”

If you are here illegally, you WILL be going back to wherever you came from.

We don’t want you here! We are FULL!

smiley2

those blue eyes + beard = 💕swoon💕

😍

pgroup2

Hold your hormones, girl.  😂 

TheseTruths

  :wpds_lol: 

pgroup2

Delivering bunker buster MOABs. Can I like this guy too much?

Please

He’s got to add a penalty for staying or else the illegals have no motivation to self-deport now.

A penalty like lifetime ban from entering USA ever again

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TheseTruths

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scott467

It’s almost unreal.

It’s not possible to be that tone deaf.

This is intentional demoralization, intentionally kicking the American People when they’re down, it’s psychological warfare on the American People, whom they HATE with a red hot passion.

They can’t be apprehended fast enough.

Tonawanda

x 1000!

TheseTruths

Yes. They’re not trying to hide it anymore.

mollypitcher5

It’s almost like the New World Order is already in play.

The New World Order (NWO) is a conspiracy theory in which adherents believe that a cabal of powerful elites is secretly implementing a dystopian international governing structure that will grant them complete control over the global populace. Under this regime, dissidents will be arrested, and the masses enslaved. Supporters of the conspiracy theory claim that most global leaders are complicit in the establishment of this “New World Order,” aiding the NWO through the manufacturing of global events (such as the coronavirus pandemic and mass shootings) and controlling their associated narratives to sow civil unrest. 

Plenty more blahblahblah about the dangerous people who talk about this or believe it…. https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/new-world-order-historical-origins-dangerous

Right now we have global invasion in the US fully implemented and supported by our govt. They’re protected under a 2 tiered law enforcement and judicial system..certainly not the system that used to be the law of land here in this country.

Native US citizens are being arrested as dissidents for speaking their mind or willful disobedience in cases such as what’s happening in the disaster areas. Humane help is subject to bureaucratic bafflegab. Elections have become an illusion to quiet the increasing woke public. Wars are being financed by countries that should have no dog in the fight. Our fleets and troops are there but presented to us as support in an unofficial capacity.

Too big to rig is our only hope, imo

pat frederick

what an ass.

para59r

Good catch. Came across it from a different source and just posted such.

TheseTruths

BREAKING: North Carolina Sheriffs say that they are ready to start arresting Kamala Harris’s FEMA feds if they continue blocking rescue workers and pilots from saving lives and delivering critical aid.

We should call the Sherrifs and ask them to deputize all of the rescue workers. That way we can arrest FEMA ourselves.

scott467

“BREAKING: North Carolina Sheriffs say that they are ready to start arresting Kamala Harris’s FEMA feds if they continue blocking rescue workers and pilots from saving lives and delivering critical aid. ”

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They’re ‘ready’?!?

What are they waiting for?

smiley2

they are giving fair warning & waiting for the right moment..

because this could be the start of something..big.

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Aubergine

It’s called “a shot across the bow.”

And it’s called for, because as you say, it might just be “The Shot Heard ‘Round The World.”

smiley2

indeed.

kalbokalbs

What are they waiting for?

Training to be an r-Con politician.

Next the Sheriff will write a letter…

scott467

Sternly worded, I hope! 👍😂

GA/FL

Deputize the rescue volunteers – AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s a brilliant idea.

kalbokalbs

S T O P talking. Arrest the fuckers.

BTW, assholes arrested get no water and food AND are left outside 24/7.

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pgroup2

Love your closing sentence.  😍 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Why it sounds like…… JUSTICE.

Something we’ve been missing for a while.

TheseTruths

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scott467

“Treason.”

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He should include what the penalty is for Treason.

It’s not like there’s any reason to hold back, when the enemy is trying to murder you.

TheseTruths

James O’Keefe:

Let’s get FEMA whistleblowers to record their colleagues.

ATTENTION ALL FEMA EMPLOYEES . 

Now is the time to draw your line in the sand and do what is right. Expose your bosses. Come forward. My citizen journalism foundation will pay your legal bills.

If the current WH were not a party to this, it would have called FEMA out by now and taken steps to put a stop to it. But 🦗. No word except denials and excuse-making.

TheseTruths

Absolutely.
It’s *interesting* that they don’t seem to care that we’re about a month away from election day. If they are trying to prevent the people in the affected areas from voting, that’s one thing, but the entire country can see that they are preventing people from getting help and are endangering their lives. That’s not normally how you go about winning elections.

mollypitcher5

It seems that they have stopped pretending that the citizens are important and that the election could effect them.. They’ve achieved absolute power with no checks and balances?

kalbokalbs

Lots of confidence sufficient number of illegals registered to vote AND take enough Red states. Capture 270+ electoral votes.

singingsoul1

They need slaves the illegals provide this to them.. I noticed low pay workers are illegals. My living chairs were delivered from Columbus by two men with heavy accent. Used to be Americans who delivered furniture’s. They need gardeners and maid .

Please

Are they trying to flip these states by chaos, confusion then cheating?

smiley2

“…reminds me of the holodomor.”

nailed it.

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Aubergine

I think they may get something of a surprise if they think they can kill hillbillies like they did Ukrainians.

It’s a whole different DNA up in those hills. Appalachian Scots-Irish are NOT built like Ukrainian peasants. Their history is very, very different.

Aubergine

You misunderstand me.

I’m not talking about shooting at people. I’m talking about surviving.

These people are tough as hell. Most of them think the government is shit. They KNOW they can’t depend on the government to do anything good for them under any circumstances.

So they don’t. And they have skills. The Appalachian mountains are a vast, beautiful, lush country full of game and wild food. It would be very, very hard to starve out hillbillies. I’m just sayin’.

Aubergine

Yes, that is true. I’m sure they have a lot of “imports” just like we do now in our small town. But the hillbillies will take care of them in the crisis, because on top of it all, they are deeply Christian, and believe it is their God-given obligation to do so. It’s a different world up in the hollers.

singingsoul1

Amen 🙂

singingsoul1

Hillbillies have been betrayed all their life and exploited and that is why they are strong. I admirer them and feel a kinship with them even though I do not come from the same background

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singingsoul1

No they will not they hunt they know the woods and springs 🙂 The true hillbillies will not cave. Remember I live among them. All men served in military.

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Barb Meier

Jason Miyares, the Virginia AG, shared this on Facebook. It’s also on X. So relevant to this discussion!

I want you to meet some people. My people.

You’ve seen some of them on the news lately. Rivers and streams came up last week and just about wiped them out.

I’m sure you know the stereotype. Mid to lower income, God-fearing, church-going, gun-loving folks. Everybody has a truck, most of ‘em own a trailer to pull behind it, and the lawn service is that neighbor kid who’s saving up to buy his first car

Gunfire here isn’t the sound of a crime in progress. It’s the sound of hunters having a good weekend, good ‘ol boys having some fun with bottles on a fence, or one of them damned coyotes finally gettin’ what it deserves for taking cattle.

Things move slower there, and change isn’t always met with open arms. You might go an entire month with no communication between one another other than a little two-finger wave as you pass on the road.

Thing is, these people have been tested and tried by the worst this world has to throw at them. Before the war, there was no electricity and water got carried up from the well. Afterward, a light bulb and a washing machine made a difference, but things still moved slow.

When the boom times came, they went into town and worked at the factories making TVs, radios, door locks, auto parts, blue jeans, lawn mowers, folding chairs, charcoal grills, and even some submarines.

But it didn’t last.

When NAFTA came and the old manufacturing jobs left, they dug deep, trained up, and found new ways to live. Because they had to.

When the tobacco that put food on the table and kids through college and kept the bankers at bay finally died out for good or ill, they learned new ways to farm.

They’re no stranger to floods. More than once the rains have poured down on these mountains and turned hollers into whitewater canyons. Valleys where there’s just enough room for the road, the river, and a house have been swept clean time and time again.

Droughts have nearly ended many livelihoods in these foothills, when the alfalfa won’t grow and the hay that feeds the cows turns into dust for months at a time. Fires have rolled through these mountains, taking homes and lives, leaving nothing behind but ashes and tears.

Blizzards come every so often, too. Snow buries the roads in feet of snow or inches of ice, leaving the world cold, dark, and dangerous.

But a funny thing happens when misfortune falls on these hills. These folks don’t break. They bend. Sometimes they bend so far that all they can do is sit in the ashes and cry for a while.

But they never break. Because when these folks start to bend, their neighbors rise up and help. These people come together, and they get it done. No orders are given, no general call goes out. When the need is known, they go.

When the odd blizzard strikes, they chain up the 4×4 and venture out, checking on the old, the infirm, or those that might be cold until the power comes back on. Old folks get their driveways cleared by people they never even see.

When the drought threatens the farm, loads of hay from other fields and other farms show up on trailers. When the wells go dry, water tanks on flatbeds shows up to keep the troughs filled.

When a tornado, hail storm, or some other weather calamity strikes, they just … go.

Come on boy, a father tells his son. They put chainsaws, chains, axes, and hatchets in the bed of a truck and go. They see people who need help, and they help. Trees get cut and pulled off of roads and houses. Tarps go up over broken roofs.

When they’re done, they load up and move on. No money asked, no thanks required. Maybe a handshake or a pat on the back. They can’t linger, because there’s more to do.

Churches set up shelters. The Ladies Auxiliary sets up hot meals in the church Fellowship Hall and throws the doors open for anyone who needs something to eat, a place to lay their head, or just a place to sit and cry on someone’s shoulder for a while.

Food and clothes come in first, followed by cleaning supplies, and all the little things needed to take the rough edges off of life.

These floods aren’t anything different. These people bend, but they won’t break.

Will they be worse for wear? Undoubtedly. There are holes in many lives now. Holes left by loved ones, livelihoods, and houses that were swept away in a muddy torrent.

But for every one of them that starts to crack, three more come in to help shore up their lives, their hearts, and their souls until they can stand up again.

Why? The ones on the Tennessee side of the line may claim the title, but they’re all Volunteers. Because they know their neighbors would do the same for them. Because they know that’s what Jesus would do. Because that’s the right thing to do. Because it’s who they are.

They’re the people of these hills and hollers. Ain’t nothing broke them yet.

Ain’t nothing ever going to, either.

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singingsoul1

Amen I agree with you I have much respect for them 🙂

Aubergine

🙂

singingsoul1

They are killing people on purpose That is my opinion watching what FEMA does how the government behaves . Used to be that it was the government of the people it is no longer. This is a warning to us we are on our own. I wish I was 30 years younger would be in N Carolina and help I have no fear of these killer FEMA. I am free even if they throw me in jail. I wish so many would go to Carolina and swamp them
Many years ago we had flooding in the Hallows it was a mess , I took lots of necessities our church collected. I ask the men who unloaded my Van what else they need. They said “thank you we are able to take care of our own.” Appalachian people are special , strong and kind people much respect from me because they are resourceful people.

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smiley2

FEMA = Equity

😊

smiley2

One Reason FEMA Is Doing Such A Terrible Job

link…

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/10/04/heres-one-reason-why-fema-is-doing-such-a-terrible-job-n3795394

“equity” 😊

another reason: mayorkas.

and…while lots & lots of American citizens have been killed and are dying from the devastation caused by the Hurricane from Hell and FEMA’s intentional sabotage…

…there’s this…

WATCH : First Look Inside Furnished Maine Apartments Where Illegal Aliens Get Up To TWO YEARS of Free (Taxpayer-Funded) Rent & Utilities

article link…

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/watch-first-look-inside-furnished-maine-apartments-where/

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TheseTruths

Mayorkas…

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singingsoul1

He is a traitor and does not have the best of Americans in his heart . The man is evil.

pat frederick

agreed!

Barb Meier
singingsoul1

Thank you for the info

kalbokalbs

Stench of hussein comes to mind.

TradeBait2

I am going to repost Joe Lange’s most recent article. IMPORTANT!

I cannot stress enough that people on here need to read it as well as all of his works. Most will not realize just how much they did not know and how duped they have been throughout their lives.

Yes – the bitch Soetoro and the rest of the scum including McShame, Cankles and W are included. If folks will read this article many questions will be answered and light bulbs will come on. My take – you will learn why BRICS+ came into existence during the time period in discussion (first began talks in 2008).

https://badlands.substack.com/p/a-conflict-of-interest

Brave and Free

Read that the other day, definitely connecting dots. We’ve known this for awhile, but if you’re like me we tend to forget how far back this goes.
I’ll remind people of these things and the most common response is like a deer in the headlights.

TheseTruths

Nick Sortor:

@elonmusk @fema Let me know where the blockades are and we’ll have NC State Police move them out of the way.

Already did it once, which is one reason why we have an escort now. FEMA has zero jurisdiction.

Trust me. They’re not going to win this one.

TheseTruths

In a just world…

scott467

“Already did it once, which is one reason why we have an escort now. FEMA has zero jurisdiction.”

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You wouldn’t have to do it twice, if you arrested them and put them in a prison cell.

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Tonawanda

Absolutely. There must be some obstruction/interfetence statute on the books. Why haven’t the arrests taken place? That is just another maddening aspect of the whole thing. If LE is not motivated under these circumstances, we are truly on our own.

kalbokalbs

From the onset, it seemed LE was motivated to S T O P saving lives.

The first one I read was the Sheriff, Lure County stopping the helo rescues.

Never made sense.

TradeBait2

Trace the Uniparty affiliation within the region with politicians and LE. Folks – Asheville is leftist controlled.

Human misery and destruction leads to future wealth enhancement. Those in control could care less about what political party affiliation the residents have, just like with Lahaina, Maui; which is Dem voter controlled.

There are sizable deposits of lithium, titanium, etc. with ample water (obviously) access to mine and process it throughout the region. Summary information about each is linked.

https://www.miningpedia.cn/dressing/-lithium-ore-processing.html

https://geologyscience.com/ore-minerals/titanium-ore/

kalbokalbs

Skip the prison cell. Leave them outside. Guarded, so they go nowhere.

No water and food for a couple days. F’m.

singingsoul1

They FEMA should be responsible for causing death of people.

pgroup2

They do not want SlowJoe to federalize the National Guard.

They also do not want to take the position that Gov Faubus took which gave Ike the excuse to bring in the Army. NC doesn’t want to be the reason the left starts up the insurrection narrative:

“This is what they started at the Capitol on January 6, 2021.”

Believe me, it’s coming if the state troopers push back the feds a few times.

pat frederick

I wanna see majorasskiss in a pool of mud struggle to get out for a while

kalbokalbs

Too kind.

Take no prisoners kinda mood here.

Leave the asshole in the puddle of mud. Fill with sewage.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

When it will all be counted – the deaths – the rapes – the robberies – the assaults – and now the avoidable deaths in Appalachia – Mayorkas will reach NAZI levels of crimes against humanity.

He’s already good for the death penalty, IMO. He just needs a tribunal.

kalbokalbs

Drawn and quartered.

Gail comes to mind. Hope she is well.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

!Yes, me too! Not a problem if Place Holder Under Arrest is necessary

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, we don’t want anything bad to happen to her – and in that respect, more PlaceHolderUnderArrest may be better.

At this point, I worry more for her health, than for her dailies. In fact, I’m ready to “fire her” for the sake of her health, if need be. I know she volunteered to help, but things change, and I respect that.

All of our absences here will eventually become permanent. I have learned not to become too attached to authors. And that includes me.

My own health has taught me to be flexible.

I’ve made varying financial investments and commitments in the future of this site. Some are quite significant, but all of them are based on the idea that we could be devastated, as if by a hurricane, at any time. Some items are shored up well into the future. Others are no more than yearly – ready to react to changes in circumstances.

We’ll get by. The next 3 months are critical. We must be maximally flexible right now. That includes scenarios WAY more disastrous than losing one author for part or all of that time.

cthulhu

I anticipate that she’ll be fine. I’m really looking forward to her post.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hoping for the best is a good choice!

WSB

Goebbels.

TheseTruths

JD Vance: “I’ve been asked by some folks to comment on Liz Cheney. I think we just traded Liz Cheney for Tulsi Gabbard and that’s the biggest upgrade in American politics.”

Tonawanda

Witty and pointed!

pgroup2

You should be so lucky.  😆 

pgroup2

Does his brain work as designed, or what???

I bet his momma went broke buying him connect-the-dots books way back when.

Aubergine

J.D.’s momma was broke because she was using drugs all the time.

J.D. Vance is a miracle. Most people who come out of his circumstances are broken. I have such deep respect for him, and what he has done with his life.

kalbokalbs

AND, Grandma in play.

singingsoul1

My husband had students like JV they are very smart and many were in the top of his class.

TheseTruths

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scott467

One officer?

Should have landed on top of him.

You certainly better have firearms.

What’s he gonna do, draw on 5 or 10 of you?

scott467

It’s officer Rosco P. Coltrane, not Rambo.

Nobody said anything about the cop pointing a gun at anyone. If the cops shoot down a helicopter delivering aid to Americans, how is it not open season on the pigs, for everyone in the area?

There has to be SOMETHING that will trigger the RIGHT response.

There has to be SOME *&^%ING LINE that will not be crossed.

pgroup2

Steve, you’re asking pesky questions again. Those damn details will drive you nuts.  😍 

scott467

“But that would likely have been the cop’s next response if they had tried to land anyway in spite of the waveoff.”

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Really?

The pig is going to commit mass-murder, over a landing violation?

DO IT.

He only gets one try, and then he gets justice on the spot, from everyone who saw it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. Treat it as a wartime situation.

The only excuse to wave off a chopper is that a bigger one is about to arrive. And – quite frankly – that lot is big enough for two of anything.

This is clear evidence of insane communist policies being pushed down from above.

Barb Meier

The helicopter comes down, chopping the hand waver to bits with its huge blades.

Aubergine

Shoot the rotor. That would crash the copter. It’s how it’s done. And not that hard to do.

Aubergine

Either one works!

scott467

“Shoot the rotor. That would crash the copter. It’s how it’s done. And not that hard to do.”

______________

He’s not going to shoot anyone over a landing violation.

Because that would be insane, and because he would be tried and convicted of mass-murder, if he made it out of the woods alive.

This insane fear of our own shadows, it appears to have paralyzed good men everywhere. I have to find out where it’s coming from.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Precisely. You’ve got it, Scott.

I personally pushed back against communism in Shallow State, until it was more important to deny the commies help, than to help the good people. It’s very important to know how hard you can push people who have been corrupted by communism. At some point, most will bend and let you operate. You can’t make them come to the other side, but you can make them break on an issue where they know that they are double-fucked if they hold the line for the commies – because the commies won’t defend them.

This is a WARTIME SKILL, and we all need it.

Our neighbors will not all join us against the commies, but they will bend to let us operate, so that we win, and the commies lose.

scott467

“Shoot the rotor. That would crash the copter. It’s how it’s done. And not that hard to do.”

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Better try for the tail rotor, and unless you’re real close, it wouldn’t be very easy to do.

It’s a moving target, well beyond 100 yards unless he’s in the process of landing, and the tail rotor is at the back, so if the pilot is facing toward you, you don’t have a clear line of sight.

The main rotor can take small arms fire before failing, and plenty of helicopters in Vietnam did just that.

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Can You Shoot Down a Helicopter With a Pistol?Yes—try to aim for the tail or the pilot.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If the guy starts shooting at the chopper, he’s a legit target.

There need to be guns hanging out the doors and windows of the choppers. MAKE IT NAM.

singingsoul1

Who gave the orders for him to sit there waving off help?
Is he not paid by the people who need help? The guy needs to be fired

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singingsoul1

I agree with you

pat frederick

hang on…are we talking fired as from his job? or like…from a canon?
cuz I’m open to both

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

scott467

“they said today we will force them to take supplies and just land.”

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Oh, they’ll take your supplies all right, no problem, and lock them up so the intended recipients never get them.

There is an order to things.

You have to remove the enemy from the battlefield before you can rescue the wounded.

smiley2

almost seems like they are intentionally provoking some sort of major confrontation.

shocking, yes ?

singingsoul1

They want to kill Americans They are our enemies. They kill one they attack us all .

kalbokalbs

Land anyway.

LEO asshole won’t do it twice if he survives.

Other LEOs won’t do it the first time.

scott467

All you need is a bullhorn or similar mounted on the helicopter.

When Rosco P. Coltrane tries to wave you off, just say “Low on fuel, must land.”

What are the chances the cop knows where the fuel gauge is on a helicopter?

And even if he does, what’s he going to say, “I thought you were low on fuel?”

Reply: I didn’t saw how low. Rumor has it there are a lot of helicopters in the area that are low on fuel, on account of this being a disaster area and fuel depots being few and far between, so stop with the nonsense of waving people off, they’re landing.

If you intend to arrest all of them, make sure your body camera is on, so the whole world can see you on the news.

And if you intend to commit mass-murder by firing on helicopters as they land, then you better pray for help getting out of these woods alive.

You have a nice day now, you hear?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

God bless you, Scott.

People should not stand for this shit. When it’s obvious how we should act – ACT.

It’s one thing not to shoot the damn commies.

It’s quite another thing to NOT HELP THE INNOCENT because of the commies.

TheseTruths

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GA/FL

TRUTH!

pgroup2

Helluva list.  😡 

singingsoul1

Bret welcome to MAGA 🙂

TheseTruths

Trump War Room:

Karine Jean-Pierre says it is “categorically false” that FEMA used taxpayer dollars to resettle illegal aliens.

That’s interesting because you can literally read about it on FEMA’s website right here: https://t.co/QDx2QEkfvJ

Here’s the link:

https://www.fema.gov/grants/shelter-services-program

The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is administered by the FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). SSP provides financial support to non-federal entities to provide humanitarian services to noncitizen migrants following their release from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The intent is to support CBP in the safe, orderly and humane release of noncitizen migrants from short-term holding facilities.

They can’t say that FEMA funds can go to both disaster relief and “noncitizen migrants” because they have already said there’s no more money for those in disaster areas. So common sense says that since a chunk of money went to “noncitizen migrants,” then that chunk is not available for Americans.

TheseTruths

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scott467

Why wasn’t it done four years ago?

kalbokalbs

Terminate FEMA.

scott467

…before FEMA terminates you!

(it’s their new slogan 😁)

scott467

KJP is a lying POS traitor.

smiley2

categorically so.

pgroup2

It’s part of her severance package. She needs to be fired so she can get that juicy lucrative MSNBC anchor slot.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sadly, you’re right. We’re gonna be seeing SHAGGY for a long time. My money is on NBC, because they are core commie, set up by Axelrod.

TradeBait2

Why would anybody even listen to what that POS says?

TheseTruths

I’ve seen this reported in different forms at least three times tonight. This lady explains it well. Bottom line: the $750 is a loan that has to be paid back within a year or they can seize the person’s property. It’s almost too evil to believe.

Okay… so our government gives illegal aliens… food, water, money, and a place to live… It’s all free. No strings attached. But…. If you are an American citizen and have lost everything in this storm, FEMA is offering you a one year loan. If you do not pay it back in one year, they will take every thing you have which is crazy!

It definitely pays off to be an illegal alien in our country. If you are a tax paying citizen, plan on getting screwed.

Please listen to this, so you don’t fall into this trap.

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smiley2

here’s $750 that you owe us kiddo…now go find someone who cares.

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smiley2

The Hurricane Relief-Industrial Complex Is Getting People Killed

link…

https://pjmedia.com/kevindowneyjr/2024/10/04/who-knew-there-is-a-hurricane-relief-industrial-complex-n4933055

10/4

is getting people killed

getting people killed

people killed

that is the agenda.

kalbokalbs

FEMAs direct contribution to 14 of 15 gotta go.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup.

Tonawanda
eilert

GA/FL

At 7:28 ET this morning, that counter-clockwise rotation in the Bay of Campeche is looking mighty strong and healthy.

https://www.windy.com/?23.171,-86.133,6,m:efGadyh

kalbokalbs

Rain makers at the ready.

smiley2

latest track Inv 92L…

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early predictions, Cat 2 or maybe Cat 3… ?

rain/wind for Florida, hopefully nothing worse…

everybody’s on edge.

everything’s a little askew.

smiley2

ok so just click on that blue link…

kalbokalbs

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nimrodman
October 5, 2024 1:24 am

Reply to  Maquis
Vietnam War veteran gives Trump his Purple Heart for taking bullet in Butler: ‘You got guts’

Trump called it “a great honor” to receive the gift.
“Dear President Trump, watching you during the Butler rally, and you getting back up, both my wife and I gave a sigh of relief as well as a few tears,” read the letter.
“I would be honored if you would accept this small token I received as a young marine in Vietnam,” it continued. “My wife and I both thought it appropriate. God bless you, your family, and the United States of America. Sincerely, Dwight.”

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kalbokalbs

That is an incredible AND appropriate gesture.

Video at the link above, 1:25. Please watch.

pat frederick

perhaps he did not want to disrespect the veteran. rejecting a heartfelt gift can be devastating to the giver.

pat frederick

and perhaps his intention is to return it to the family when the veteran passes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! That is maximum Trump right there.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!

True or not, it’s pure TRUMP!!!

pgroup2

What if that very cool thing to do started a mini-movement inside the campaign? Can you imagine a pile of military awards and commendations.

Would it fit on a dining room table? A corporate boardroom table? Larger?

Worst part might be figuring out what each in-kind contribution is worth.

pat frederick

Grace 🔎
@reallygraceful
Waynesville, NC small business owners who lost everything received these notices from the government yesterday….the notice says they can’t start repairs without purchasing permits and getting assessments from the government!

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

These people are fucking evil.

pat frederick

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Filly brought this story this morning

ENTIRE ARTICLE @ RedState: “We are hearing more and more about the devastation wrought by last weekend’s Hurricane Helene, and how our fellow Americans in Western North Carolina, Eastern Tennessee, and Eastern Georgia have been adversely affected. Towns completely destroyed, too many lives lost, and way too much government incompetence and malfeasance.
But we are also hearing about the good: neighbors helping neighbors, brave heroes in private aircraft reaching remote areas with means of communication, supplies, food, water, and hope. This week’s Feel-Good Friday offering is a Helene hero story of a different variety, but it is still one for the books.
David Jones had to travel from Boiling Springs, South Carolina, to Johnson City, Tennessee–normally a two-and-a-half hour or so drive–to walk his daughter down the aisle at her wedding. Then Hurricane Helene and its subsequent destruction, threw a major wrench into his plans:

A Boiling Springs, South Carolina man managed to walk about 17 miles through the night after Tropical Storm Helene hit the western Carolinas and Tennessee to get to Johnson City, to walk his daughter, Elizabeth, down the aisle at her wedding.

All told it was a 30-mile walk. Jones set out on Friday afternoon to make the drive to Tennessee and was stopped by state troopers on Interstate 26; They told him that because of the washed-out roads, bridges, and generally dangerous conditions, they couldn’t let him go any further:

“At the time, I had no cell service and no power and no idea of the magnitude of what had happened,” Jones said.

He drove as far as he could on Interstate 26 before troopers said his car could make it no further due to washed-out roads, bridges and dangerous conditions. At that point, he was at Exit 43, Temple Hill Road, in Unicoi County, Tennessee.

“I told the troopers that my daughter is getting married at 11:00 and it’s now 2:00 and I’ve got to get to Johnson City to walk her down the aisle,” Jones said.

Now that’s a father’s love and a determined soul. Jones is a marathoner, having accomplished the completion of two races, so having to trek on foot for what he estimated was less than 30 miles was of little consequence to him; or so he thought. Instead of a marathon, Jones encountered an obstacle course. He had to traverse over mounds and mounds of broken road, broken structures, and debris on his trek, and at one point he was stuck in mud up to his knees, and almost got wiped out by a cleanup crew with a backhoe attempting to clear the road. 
Jones managed to escape that harrowing ordeal, and moved closer to his destination, when another trooper spoke to him:

As he drew closer to Erwin, Tennessee, he said that a trooper approached him. “He said, ‘Are you the one trying to get to his daughter’s wedding? We’re all talking about you. Everyone says you’re so determined!’” Jones said.

That trooper offered him a ride two miles closer to his destination, and Jones resumed walking, picking up a reflector on the side of a narrow, two-lane highway, for safety.

Eventually, a driver offered him a ride for the last eight miles of his trip, and Jones realized it was a former colleague who had been unable to sleep and wanted to drive over to some property to check on it since the storm had been so strong.

“Talk about providence and divine intervention. Not only was this someone I knew and trusted, he couldn’t sleep! I knew God was keeping him awake to help me,” Jones said.

He was able to make it to his home in Johnson City to freshen up and made it to the church in time to walk Elizabeth, down the aisle on Saturday morning.

As part of their wedding gift, Jones gave his daughter Elizabeth and her new husband the reflector that he carried on the road for safety. He said it was a reminder for the couple to be “a protector [of each other], a good reflection of each other and of God.” David Jones embodied all these through his courageous and sacrificial act of making a hazardous journey through the muck and the mire in order to give Elizabeth away. 
Jones brushed it off, saying that this is what Dads do. Elizabeth disagreed, and so do the rest of us. What Jones is, is a rock star, an incredible example of the Father heart of God, and a bright, shining symbol of the American spirit in these dark and uncertain times.”

para59r

This is also floating around the internets. Two separate perps in this video. Not sure when it was taken or if perps are at the same rally.

Does this mean it’s back to watching the crowd behind the President for malcontents. One of our old pass times. 😐

para59r

Commentators are all over this saying its just some gen Z prank thing called “mewing” and to leave it alone. They tell you to look it up. So looked it up. It’s done in classrooms to silence and intimidate teachers. Essentially it’s a threatening gesture and means exactly what it’s actions indicate.

PAVACA

para59r
Meaning, “Be quiet or you’ll be ‘eliminated'”?

mollypitcher5

They both look a little too old for school pranks but the message is clear

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Saturday, October 5, 2024

“I sought the LORD, and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears.” 

Psalms 34:4 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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duchess01

THE FEAR FACADE

Of what are you fearful – unsure today?
What makes you tremble – what keeps you at bay?
What bothers you – disturbs your peace at night?
What gives you pause – and puts out your light?

It might be unseen – the unknown that shakes;
The out of control – the unbalanced that quakes;
It could be the undeniable belief;
There is nowhere to go – to get some relief!

Your mind is racing – your heart beating fast;
You wonder how long fearfulness will last;
Release me – Oh, Lord – from the grasp of fear;
Come; Calm me – Oh, Lord – Come, quickly near!

What does this fear come stealthily to take?
How does it disturb – in the night keep awake?
What gives it power o’er what you partake?
Why would you give in – why would you forsake?

The hold that fear can have over its prey;
Is the unbelief that faith takes away;
The opposite of fear is truly belief;
And it is our faith that provides the relief!

What happened to Peter when his faith failed?
His footing gave way – in the water he flailed;
What happens to us when of little faith?
We fall prey to a spirit – of haunting wraith!

Fear can be daunting – paralyzing – haunting;
It can cause us to hold back – be less flaunting;
We will definitely hide all our gifts inside;
Where His Spirit is willing and wants to reside!

The love that we have to give will be thwarted;
As we draw into ourselves – love is hoarded;
From the love of God we have truly withdrawn;
From the embrace of another woebegone!

What must we do to eliminate fear?
We must repent and draw His Spirit near;
We must fast – we must pray – the fear away;
For where faith increases – fear cannot stay!

D01: 09/03/2013



PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you, thank you for your poem today! It speaks volumes!
Hoping things are well with you. Sending much Good Energy!

para59r
duchess01

Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing 

#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.

#faith #god #psalms

Pray Everyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUPiqPMs8M&t=2s

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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️



Aubergine

Steve:

“This is a classic example of a phenomenon I see sometimes…a person with a nutty conspiracy theory latches onto the first thing they see, and if it happens to contain a bona fide error in it, there’s no convincing them of it; they will spin a huge unlikely story as to how “their” version of whatever it was is the correct one, and that the correct one is actually the fake used for a cover up.”

Candace Owen and the Kamala relatives nonsense is another perfect example of this. She has the WRONG person’s death certificate. Wrong last name altogether. But the first name is the same as Kamala’s grannie, and the last name of the death cert is the same as Kammie’s grannie’s middle name, so OF COURSE it has to be her!

Just more screwed up, honeypot, conspiracy theory b.s. to make people look like idiots for believing in it. It makes me furious.

Aubergine

Lol! Peeing on people’s parades. It’s what I do.

Aubergine

Lol! Shhh. Don’t give away the secret!

Aubergine

Oooh, do you think I could buy a denarius with Tiberius on it?

P.S. Whatever Judas got, I’m sure he regretted taking it.

Aubergine

Cool! I will look for one.

Aubergine

I will look around. But if I decide to buy one, I will consult one of our local coin dealers. They’re pretty good, I understand.

Aubergine

Stuff like that is disheartening. Matthew is correct, and so is Acts. See here:

https://www.gotquestions.org/Judas-die.html

But great detail was not given in either account, which I guess is not surprising when you think about it. It would be analogous (although a much worse case) to not wanting to publish the name of a school shooter today. It only adds to their notoriety.

Judas’ betrayal resulted in the death of the Messiah. I can’t imagine His Apostles having good feelings about His betrayer.

Aubergine

That’s a sad story.

I like to discuss belief/nonbelief. I am more akin to the Apostle Thomas than I like, so things have to make sense to me to overcome my doubt.

I proved to myself with logic alone that Jesus resurrected from the dead. That is the only possible outcome given history and what is known, not just in the Bible, but in other sources. Someday, I would love to have a bottle of wine with you on the beach and explain my logic to you. It would be fun.

Aubergine

Well, hey, that’s all right. I have something in common with Trump, too. I’ll just have a diet Coke!

pgroup2

Christ wasn’t the only one raised from the dead on that certain Sunday.

pgroup2

It’s peeing in their breakfast cereal that’s the real downer.

Aubergine

Lol!

pat frederick

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kalbokalbs

r-Cons do nothing.