2022·01·22 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread


SPECIAL SECTION: Message For Our “Friends” In The Middle Kingdom

I normally save this for near the end, but…basically…up your shit-kicking barbarian asses. Yes, barbarian! It took a bunch of sailors in Western Asia to invent a real alphabet instead of badly drawn cartoons to write with. So much for your “civilization.”

Yeah, the WORLD noticed you had to borrow the Latin alphabet to make Pinyin. Like with every other idea you had to steal from us “Foreign Devils” since you rammed your heads up your asses five centuries ago, you sure managed to bastardize it badly in the process.

Have you stopped eating bats yet? Are you shit-kickers still sleeping with farm animals?

Or maybe even just had the slightest inkling of treating lives as something you don’t just casually dispose of?

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

And here’s my response to barbarian “asshoes” like you:

OK, with that rant out of my system…

Biden Gives Us Too Much Credit

…we can move on to the next one.

Apparently Biden (or his puppeteer) has decided we’re to blame for all of the fail in the United States today.

Sorry to disappoint you Joe (or whoever), but you managed to do that all on your own; not only that, you wouldn’t let us NOT give you the chance because you insisted on cheating your way into power.

Yep, you-all are incompetent, and so proud of it you expect our applause for your sincerity. Fuck that!!

It wouldn’t be so bad, but you insist that everyone else have to share in your misery. Nope, can’t have anyone get out from under it. Somehow your grand vision only works if every single other person on earth is forced to go along. So much as ONE PERSON not going along is enough to make it all fail, apparently.

In engineering school we’re taught that a design that has seven to eight billion single points of failure…sucks.

Actually, we weren’t taught that. Because it would never have occurred to the professors to use such a ridiculous example.

The So-Called Vax

I think I can actually make sense of the Vaxers now. (And I’m going to call it the “treatment” from here forward.)

Everything they do makes sense (from their point of view, that is), if you assume that they believe the purpose of the treatment is to prevent the recipient from infecting others. It’s not to protect the recipient from others, it’s to protect others from the recipient.

(Now it is true that an actual vax helps slow the spread of the disease. I know you can sometimes transmit a disease if vaxed, but it’s more difficult if you don’t actually don’t catch it. But I am not talking about the side-benefit of a real vax; I’m talking about what they think of THIS treatment, where, apparently the only benefit it confers is to prevent people from transmitting it.)

Under those circumstances, they can consider you selfish for not wanting to protect others. After all you refuse to take a treatment that will prevent others from catching the disease from you. And, indeed, they do consider you “selfish” and not in the positive way that Ayn Rand used the term.

But it’s yet another one of those things where ONE non-compliant individual ruins it for everyone else–at least, that’s what they think it is. ONE untreated person could infect the entire human race, because they aren’t protected from him.

Never mind that this is not what a vaccine is supposed to be doing. If you assume that the motherf*cking toilet licker in front of you shrieking about how you’re Satan Incarnate for not being jabbed believes that the sole purpose of the treatment is to prevent the recipient from spreading the disease–not to prevent the recipient from catching it–suddenly his behavior makes sense, at least based on what he believes (and you can’t expect anyone to behave in accordance with things they don’t believe).

So perhaps the best way to argue with these people is to simply point out calmly that a vaccine (their word) is supposed to protect the recipient from those with the disease [which of course we say] not prevent them from giving it to other people [identify their false premise and face it head on] they might actually feel like they’re being argued with, rather than talked past.

If you don’t confront their actual premise, arguing with them can accomplish nothing.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Kamala Harris has a new nickname since she finally went west from DC to El Paso Texas: Westward Hoe.

Mozart

Sedate. The adagio (2nd movement) from his clarinet concerto.

And a bit…less sedate. Last movement of his Symphony #41 which is the last one he wrote.

(Don’t be fooled by the fact that there’s a Symphony #42, or 43, or…well up to #55 at least…as I explained last time the numbering isn’t really chronological. To the best of my knowledge he’s got at least 51 symphonies under his belt (though some are disputed), so if we were ever to renumber them, this one would be #51. But we never will renumber them; that would cause confusion for centuries.)

By the way, that sucker ends in a five part fugue. Not easy to write!

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

All prices are Kitco Ask, 3PM MT Friday (at that time the markets close for the weekend).

Last week:

Gold $1,819.10
Silver $23.06
Platinum $979.00
Palladium $1,875.00
Rhodium $17,400.00

This week, markets closed for the weekend at 3:00 PM Mountain Time

Gold $1831.80
Silver $24.31
Platinum $1043.00
Palladium $2194.00
Rhodium $17,650.00

Is this a break out? Platinum and palladium are up like gangbusters. Rhodium hasn’t moved much, but gold and silver are up fairly nicely (again, today they’re down, Thursday’s close was even higher).

Is the inflation of the “Fern” (Federal Reserve Note) finally manifesting?

JWST Update

The James Webb Space Telescope has succesfully deployed all 18 pieces of the primary mirror and the secondary mirror from their “stowed for launch” positions. That involved moving them half an inch (12.5mm) from where they were before, using the same actuators that will be used over the next three months for the next major phase of the mission.

I was surprised to see that NASA had slipped the L2 insertion burn a day. I didn’t think that was possible; at some point the spacecraft has reached where it needs to be to do this, and you don’t want to miss the window. Obviously, I don’t know all the details…because despite being originally scheduled for Sunday, it’s now slated for Monday.

https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/01/21/webbs-journey-to-l2-is-nearly-complete/

More about the orbit.

https://www.webb.nasa.gov/content/about/orbit.html

At some point after that, I believe, they will begin the process of lining up the mirror segments with each other. They need to mimic a single parabolic mirror, and that will require them all to be re-positioned with accuracies of less than ten billionths of a meter. This will be done with the same motors that took the mirrors out of “stowed” position. That motion was a million times larger, yet the same actuators were responsible. It’s as if you had a combined brain surgery scalpel/chain saw for cutting things around the house. The mirror alignment is expected to take three months, and the impression I’ve received is that they will be done one at a time and checked with algorithms that have benefited people with certain visual impairments here on Earth (including one that I have). I have no idea how much, if any, NASA will be updating people during the process.

Meanwhile the sensors that these mirrors gather the light for, continue to cool and will also be brought on line and calibrated. We’re still looking at June for the first meaningful pictures, which will be false-color infrared pictures.

The First Exoplanets Not Orbiting Star Corpses

One Last Detection Method

There’s one more, rather rare, method of detecting extrasolar planets (or “Exoplanets” for short) and the surprising thing about this method is it actually has happened.

Occasionally we will see one (fairly close) star pass directly in front of a more distant star; the closer star will appear to be moving faster (more likely) than the distant one.

When that happens, the gravity of the nearer star bends some of the starlight from the more distant star, and that star is “gravitationally lensed.” More light from that star reaches us than would otherwise be the case and it gets brighter as the other star crosses in front of it.

This has actually been observed to happen. Furthermore, sometimes there’s a secondary “spike” in the brightness of the distant star, which we believe is due to gravitational lensing around a planet of the nearby star. It’s a lot weaker and of shorter duration than the main event, but it can be detected.

It seems incredibly unlikely that this should ever happen, but it has. A small (but significant) number of exoplanets have been detected this way. However, we’ll almost certainly never be able to confirm the planet by the same means, because the star would have to pass directly in front of yet another star for this to happen.

But that’s getting ahead of our story for tonight.

Patience Rewarded

Geoffrey WIlliam Marcy (b. 1954) was, in the early 1990s, chasing rainbows. He was having trouble with his main line of research, and was beginning to think he was a failure as an astrophysicist. So he decided to flame out with a bang…and search for exoplanets.

Remember that back then, this was something no one wanted to be caught dead trying to do; it smacked too much of looking for E.T.

That didn’t stop Marcy; he began trying to use the Doppler Shift method I described last week. And I should have been more careful describing it; it turns out it’s called the “Radial Velocity Method.”

He looked for years, and found nothing. His instruments weren’t sensitive enough to detect a small (Earth size, say, or smaller) planet, and there simply weren’t any indications of large planets, either. He had spent years looking for a signal of a large planet, in a large (and therefore long-period) orbit. This is what everyone expected. But, nothing.

But then in December, 1995, Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz, Swiss astronomers, reported having found an exoplanet in orbit around a star named 51 Pegasi.

“51 Pegasi” is a “Flamsteed designation” according to a system invented by John Flamsteed in the early 1700s; he essentially numbered the stars in each constellation, and 51 Pegasi is a star in the constellation Pegasus. Almost every naked-eye-visible star visible from England got a Flamsteed number. This includes stars that already had a Bayer designation (constellation name plus a Greek letter). For instance Betelgeuse, Alpha Orinonis, is also 58 Orionis according to the Flamsteed designation.

The upshot is that 51 Pegasi is a faint star, but is visible to the naked eye (barely) on a very dark night far away from city lights. In fact, it’s of almost exactly the same spectral class as our Sun; it’s a G2IV whereas our Sun is a G2V. It’s believed to be a bit older (6.1-8.1 billion years versus 4.6 billion) than our Sun.

But it’s a nice, ordinary star, maybe getting a bit long in the tooth, but a nice, ordinary star. Not some pulsar corpse of a star, made of solid neutronium, spewing massive amounts of radiation everywhere like a firehose as it spins like a top hundreds of times a second!

The planet was immediately designated 51 Pegasi b (according to that convention I complained about two weeks ago), and it fell to Marcy and his team mates to confirm it.

Which they almost immediately did.

It didn’t take long to do so. They were able to watch it orbit 51 Pegasi a couple of times, because this planet (originally dubbed Bellerophon, after the mythic rider of Pegasus, but now called Dimidium), has a 4.23 day year. So they could look for a Doppler “wobble” with that period, and they found it, immediately.This is a damned short year. Mercury is the closest planet to our Sun, and its year is 88 days.

In other words, no one expected such a short year, from any sort of planet.

But that wasn’t the biggest surprise. The planet’s mass is 0.46 Jupiter masses; in other words, it’s more massive than Saturn. It’s a gas giant!

OK, now if you remember back two weeks, I described what we expected a “typical” planetary system to look like…based on our own. And the gas giants should be far away from their stars. Not just because that’s what we see here, but because there’s simply no way they could form any closer to a star; it’s simply too hot for the ices, and the hydrogen and helium, to hang around long enough for the rocky core of such a planet to be able to capture them. Out at 5 AU, it is possible–that’s Jupiter’s distance–but at 0.05 AU, where 51 Pegasi b is, no way!

That sound you’re imagining is the sound of bullshit meters pegging in the skulls of every astronomer and astrophysicist in the world.

But here was a discovery, from Switzerland, confirmed by a team in the United States, of something that shouldn’t exist.

Well, OK…maybe the planet formed farther out and somehow migrated inwards? Seems unlikely, but it could happen. Current thinking is that much of the time, planet formation is a very chaotic process and planets, as they form, fling other planets clear out of the planetary system, to wander forever in interstellar space as “rogue” planets. Or planets can be flung into their stars. Or into some close orbit.

But it gets better: Marcy and his team may not have bagged the first planet orbiting a normal star, but they had been gathering spectroscopic data from hundreds of stars for years. When they went back and looked–this time for very short period signals instead of ones with periods of several years–they found a lot of exoplanets like 51 Pegasi b.

Within two months, Marcy’s team was able to announce planets orbiting 47 Ursae Majoris (the Big Bear) and 70 Virginis (Virgo).

47 Ursae Majoris b is at least a bit more normal. The parent star is again, very much like our Sun. The planet orbits in just under 3 years at a distance of 2.1 AU. But it is at least 2.5 times as massive as Jupiter. (Remember that masses found by the Doppler method are minimums; if the orbit is tilted with respect to our line of sight, then some of the velocity of the star induced by the planet is transverse, rather than radial and the Doppler effect is smaller than it “should” be…meaning the planet is more massive than the signal would indicate.)

That’s still a bit close to its star for a gas giant. And yes, as mentioned, it’s a bigger planet than Jupiter. How big can a planet get? Once it gets to be about 10-14 Jupiter masses, it’s considered a “brown dwarf” star since some nuclear fusion of rare isotopes of hydrogen and helium can (and does) occur.

(Today, we know there are two other planets orbiting 47 Ursae Majoris orbiting at 3.6 and 11.6 AUs. That outer planet takes almost 40 years to orbit and has the distinction of being the longest-period planet ever discovered by the radial velocity method.)

70 Virginis is a star a bit more massive than the Sun and might be starting to swell into a red giant phase. It has a planet orbiting it, about 7.5 Jupiter masses…and it’s in a 116 day orbit. Although not as extreme as 51 Pegasi b, it’s too close to be a gas giant. But the bigger surprise is that the orbit’s eccentricity is 0.4!

One of the other things we expected, based on our own Solar System, was that planets would be in almost circular orbits. A circular orbit has an eccentricity of 0.0. 0.4 starts looking distinctly oval shaped.

Red: Eccentricity 0 (a circular orbit)
Green: Eccentricity 0.2
Cyan: Eccentricity 0.4
Orange: Eccentricity 0.6
Magenta: Eccentricity 0.8
All orbits have the same semimajor axis (that’s half of the width of the ellipse, measured the long way), so the planets shown have the same period. Note how much the magenta planet speeds up and slows down, though.

(Mercury is the most eccentric planetary orbit in our Solar System, at about 0.2. Which is why it was possible to spot the precession of its aphelion so easily, as figured into Einstein’s discovery of general relativity.)

A large planet in an eccentric orbit will tend to destabilize things in orbits in between its periastron (closest approach) and apoastron (furthest distance) from the star it’s orbiting. So this is yet more evidence of chaos in planetary system formation.

Many of Marcy’s exoplanets turned out to be gas giants orbiting “too close” to their stars…so we’ve given this absurd-seeming class of planets a name: we call them “Hot Jupiters.”

And they don’t seem to make sense. But they were, for a while, by far the most common kind of planet we knew of.

But…and this is an important lesson…that is because they were far and away the easiest to detect! They orbited close to their parent star (which increased the Doppler wobble) and they are massive (which increases the Doppler wobble). Remember, a nice normal planet like Earth would be undetectable by this method! So of course they didn’t find anything like Earth, because they couldn’t.

Kepler Space Telescope (2009-2018)

Fast forward to 2009. The business of looking for exoplanets is now very respectable.

And NASA launched a space telescope named Kepler, after Johannes Kepler (1571-1630), who first identified the laws of planetary orbital motion. There couldn’t be a better choice of name.

This was a very specialized instrument. It did exactly one thing. It hunted for exoplanets.

It simply stared at a patch of sky near the constellation Cygnus (the Swan, it contains the Northern Cross). It continuously stared at 150,000 stars all at once, watching their brightness.

Kepler Field Of View

What was it doing? It was applying the transit method of detecting extrasolar planets.

If you recall, this method relies on the planet crossing between us and the star it’s orbiting. This is a very unlikely configuration (the orbit could be tilted at any angle with respect to the line of sight; it has to be very, very close to crossing directly through our line of sight to see the planet move in front of its star). But if you’re looking at a hundred and fifty thousand stars all at once, you will get some hits. If there are any planets. And remember that if you can detect a planet this way, you won’t just get its mass and its orbital period, you’ll get a good estimate of its physical size…and hence you’ll be able to compute its density. And that tells you whether it’s made of rocks or gas…or ice.

In other words, we could collect a statistically meaningful sample to find out just how common exoplanets really were (many times as common as were detected, because most planets won’t transit as seen from here). The transit method is more sensitive and can detect planets closer to Earth-like if it works at all.

One vital condition of “earthlike” is the size of the planet…but another is its distance from the star it’s orbiting. We want to know if the planet is at a temperature where water can be a liquid on its surface. And that requires that it be in the “Goldilocks zone.” Not too hot, not too cold…but just right. More formally, this is called the star’s habitable zone. This is about 1 AU out for a star the size (and brightness) of our sun. Most stars are smaller and cooler and their habitable zones are closer to the star as a consequence.

The mission ran until 2018, when Kepler ran out of fuel. It was switched off on November 15th, the 388th anniversary of Johannes Kepler’s death.

And Kepler found 2,662 confirmed exoplanets–plus an additional 3600 unconfirmed candidates. Every star that seemed to have planets got a Kepler number, e.g., Kepler 1544, so the exoplanets have imaginative names like Kepler-1544 b.

In many cases multiple planets were detected orbiting a star.

A handful of these planets orbit in the habitable zone and appear to be rocky planets. In fact, Kepler-1544 b is one of them. Its radius is 1.78 times as much as Earth, and the mass is 3.84 times as much as Earth.

There are a number of these “Super Earths,” in fact, many not in their stars’ habitable zones. It’s hard, even with this method, to detect smaller planets. The planet orbits at about .54 AU with a year of 168 days. This is NOT too close to the star, however, because Kepler-1544 is a cooler star than our Sun. In fact most finds seem to have been around stars markedly cooler than the Sun.

Want to see the list? Here you go, knock yourself out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exoplanets_discovered_using_the_Kepler_space_telescope

Here’s another one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler-1649 . This star appears to have both a Venus-like planet and an Earth like planet in orbit about it. The star itself is a red dwarf, so the planets orbit at less than 0.1 AU, and their years are 8 and 19 days long, respectively.

Post Kepler

Kepler did a lot of work, but others have been adding to the count.

One system that is famous right now is TRAPPIST-1. It’s 39 light years away in the direction of Aquarius, and is 9% as massive as the Sun–hence much cooler in temperature. In 2016-17, astronomers at the Transiting Planets and Planetesimals Small Telescope in Chile discovered that there are no less than seven terrestrial (rocky) planets in orbit about this star. Three, or maybe even four, of the planets appear to be in the habitable zone. Orbits range from 0.011 to 0.06 AUs. Remember this is a cool star. In fact, it radiates mostly in the infrared, so even at noon on the planets, it probably wouldn’t seem brighter than at sunset here on Earth, though temperatures would be closer to “normal.”

(Apparently Kepler did look at this star at one point.)

There is also a new satellite, the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS), launched in 2018. It has already found over four thousand candidate planets, yet to be confirmed.

Using the gravitational lensing method, in 2020 astronomers reported an earth-mass rogue planet (one that is wandering interstellar space). Apparently it crossed in front of some star when someone was looking at that star.

A device called a vortex coronagraph has allowed astronomers to directly image large, distant exoplanets more easily than before. Recall that direct imaging works for such planets (the farther out the better; the closer the star to us, the better); I’ve even seen a time lapse GIF of four planets orbiting a star. The Hale Telescope at Mount Palomar has been very useful for this sort of thing. (Seventy years old and still going strong!)

So, we’re getting better at this. I’ve pointed you to lists and some number counts, but let’s look at a diagram that might clarify things:

The higher up you go on that diagram, the bigger the planet. You can see pictures of Jupiter, Neptune and Earth at the right to give a sense of scale. To the left, planets orbit near their star. Hot Jupiters appear here. To the right, they’re further out and you will see a group labeled “Cold Gas Giants.” Then further down you see large planets that appear as though they may consist largely of water, or ices.

But the overwhelming majority of dots, mostly Kepler detections, are “Rocky planets” like our own, many, many of them much larger than Earth (which is the largest rocky planet in this planetary system). And ones very close to their star are expected to have molten lava surfaces, simply because that close to the star they get very hot.

But in the lower right, is the “Frontier.” If there are planets here, we can’t detect them yet. (And we know of some such planets, for instance Mars.)

The Future

This is very, very much a story in progress. The James Webb Space Telescope is expected to be able to not only see some of these planets, but also detect and analyze their atmospheres.

What we would be really excited to see is planets with water and an oxygen atmosphere.

Water, because that’s the one thing every life form we know of must have. Even oxygen isn’t as universally necessary. (There are bacteria that manage to live in water near boiling, and others that manage to thrive inside nuclear reactors, and of course there are plenty of anaerobic critters out there (like botulism) but nothing we know of can live without water.)

Oxygen, because if we find an oxygen atmosphere it’s almost certainly a sign that life exists on that planet.

If plants stopped photosynthesizing right now, no oxygen would be created. And the oxygen in the air would slowly combine with other things on Earth and be bound up, much like on Mars, which is largely a rusty planet. In other words, an oxygen atmosphere is not stable, because oxygen is so reactive. An oxygen atmosphere can only exist if something continually creates more oxygen. And although there are some other possibilities a strong candidate for creating oxygen would be living things. It would be by far the strongest evidence we have that life exists elsewhere. Though that doesn’t mean “ET” because that life might just be algae–pond scum in other words.

But pond scum is still life, after all no one accuses Joe Biden of being dead, just demented.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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Deplorable Patriot

Deplorable Patriot

I just realized the bagpipers were playing “Hail, Holy Queen.”

Deplorable Patriot

And who gets to be the bearer?

Cuppa Covfefe

Maybe Faux-Xi will morph into Gollum (not much to change there…), and carry it off and stumble into Orodruin (Mount Doom), then fall…. one can only hope, and pray…

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

That’s probably true.

para59r

Okay, we know this stuff, have for quite some time, but this is hard packed and well worth the read.

https://conservativeplaybook.com/2022/01/22/u-s-hospitals-have-become-hotel-california-you-can-check-out-any-time-you-like-but-you-can-never-leave/

RF121

scott467

“I flew OVER it once. (No, I didn’t drop bombs.)”

_____________

You could at least roll down your window and empty the ash tray or something 👍😁

Gail Combs

WOW!!!

Dr Malone SAID IT OUT LOUD!
“..They have LITERALLY MURDERED 100,000s if not millions of people by surpressing early treatment…

Steve Bannon says, that is a strong statement and asks is that man slaughter or is it a conscious decision?

Dr Malone answers they had the Chinese protocols for treatments very early on in 2020 and they had a DIRECTIVE from the POTUS that HCQ shall be made widely available and Rick Wright is ON CAMERA STATING he CONSPIRED WITH JANET WOODCOCK to make it so HCQ would not be deployed in the outpatient enviornment….

And then we have these internal e-mails in the FDA joking with Janet, encouraging the campaign to suppress Ivermectin and call it horse paste and she is congratulating the people who put out that tweet.

There is all kinds of evidence here and I guarantee Ron Johnson…. If the Senate flips I can guarratee he is loaded for bear….

Bright was the director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA)

Dr Malone goes on from there.

Start at 31 minutes:

https://rumble.com/vt30ke-episode-1582-defeat-the-mandates.html

TheseTruths

😡😡😡

they had the Chinese protocols for treatments very early on in 2020 

Were the Chinese actually using them?

they had a DIRECTIVE from the POTUS that HCQ shall be made widely available

I didn’t know that.

Gail Combs

IIRC the Chinese were using IV vitamin C to good effect. I do not know what other protocols they had.

Remember Dr Malone was working with the military at the time.

ForGodandCountry

That seems odd.

After all, this very thing has been discussed here at Qtree all too often over the years when discussing HCQ and Ivermectin.

The “plannedemic” was the vector (ie. excuse) for corrupt SoS like GA’s Brad Raffensperger to unilaterally (and illegally) change the election protocols in the runup to the 2020 election and allow “drop boxes” and greatly expanded mail-in balloting.

If HCQ and Ivermectin use had been allowed, it would have quickly killed the exploding crisis and therefore undermined the “need” for these drop boxes and mail-in balloting “in the interests of public safety”.

So they outlawed their use….and millions died because of it.

This exact point of discussion has been rehashed countless times on these pages, for years now.

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ForGodandCountry

they had a DIRECTIVE from the POTUS that HCQ shall be made widely available

This was and has been widely known.

kalbokalbs
TheseTruths

I know all of those points of discussion, of course. I was referring merely to the statement that PDJT directed that HCQ be made widely available. PDJT himself stopped mentioning HCQ. Yes, he initially mentioned it as a therapeutic, but I missed seeing much about that since that time.

marymorse

And in NY, Melissa DeRosa was Cuomo’s point person for COVID response, and for elections, iir.

kalbokalbs

Fantastic, the Covid hoax narrative has flipped AND Good Guys ARE on the offense.

Malone’s BLUNT words huge.

Wonder if Sunday talk shows will report on this. Yea, not likely. But, Pravda News also needs to flip their narrative to reality.

Gail Combs

Very HUGE…
Remember he started out PRO-Vaccine and even took two Jabs. Dr Malone NEVER EVER says anything he can not back up 100% with FACTS. He has always been careful that way.

Also mentioned was Project Veritas is coming out with MORE AMMO and it is going to be MAJOR.

TheseTruths

He has always been careful

That’s what struck me. In some of his early interviews it seemed obvious that he was holding back and choosing his words carefully because he wanted to be accurate and science-based.

Gail Combs

Yes, I found that very noticeable too. One interviewer (Stew Peters) tried to get him to say something (Ivermectin used in India) but Dr Malone refused because he COULD NOT VERIFY that it was Ivermectin that was used in India’s Uttar Pradesh province despite having contacts in India.

I saw elsewhere skuttlebutt that Biden Admin had leaned on India not to release the info.

scott467

” In some of his early interviews it seemed obvious that he was holding back and choosing his words carefully because he wanted to be accurate and science-based.”

_____________

I remember that, and I remember thinking it’s great that he’s hinting at the truth, but he’s clearly not ready to throw down the gauntlet and confront all challengers with the white hot light of truth.

Now, he is 👍 😁

So I suspect there was a period of time where he had to come to terms with what he ought to do, and repercussions of doing it, and then deciding it was the right thing to do, so he had to do it.

And then going all-in 👍

ForGodandCountry

This, right here, is the accountability that SD should be speaking of in his posts today, particularly the one Scott posted and linked to on Page 1 earlier.

TheseTruths

I’m ready.
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United States Army clerks with evidence collected for the Nuremberg trials”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

ForGodandCountry

This ^^^ post belongs to Gail.

Jus’ sayin’

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TheseTruths

I don’t understand.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gail is the one with a gazillion documents at the ready!

TheseTruths

I get that, but my posts are my own and don’t “belong” to anyone. It would have been much clearer to say “That looks like Gail’s evidence stash” or something.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I hear you!

TheseTruths

Well, yeah…😂

Cuppa Covfefe

And some of its documents… 😆

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Cuppa Covfefe

Oops. Some of it IS documents 🙂

Gail Combs

  :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_wink: 

kalbokalbs

AND, incredibly organized, with a superb memory.

I, we, ARE fortunate.

ForGodandCountry

Yes. Far too much so.

As I have long maintained, and still do BTW, Gail is actually Top Secret, highly advanced, white hat AI “placed” among us by the XVII folks to keep us on track with documentation sourced, collated, and at the ready.

If I’m wrong, and I could be of course, then she would be all the more remarkable!

TheseTruths

Yes. I’d like to know her organizational strategy.

Gail Combs

A GOOD memory!

TheseTruths

You remember that you have particular information, and you remember where you stored it. It’s amazing. 😊

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think baby goats are involved somehow. But I cannot tell if they are mission critical.

cthulhu

If only I had GIMP skills — I’d redo that “Nuremberg files” room with baby goats all over it. Maybe one bringing in a new file, and one standing on top of the cubbies with a file in its mouth.

marymorse

Bright and Woodcock we’re on the left side of the OWS org charts. Didn’t Bright resign?

(Just noticing that the acronym for operation warp speed is OWS. Yikes.)

scott467

“There is all kinds of evidence here and I guarantee Ron Johnson…. If the Senate flips I can guarratee he is loaded for bear….”

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It’s a terrible shame that all Ron Johnson can do is televised outrage kabuki.

Congressional hearings could prove what these monsters have done beyond any doubt whatsoever, and the DOJ wouldn’t investigate or prosecute a single one.

FibDoj is completely detached from the reality of their purpose and function.

ForGodandCountry

All those mask and vax Karens who are about to be humiliated and embarrassed…

D’ya think they are the types who would take responsibility for their choice, or do you think they are gonna be “victims” out for the blood of those who they will see as the cause of their humiliation and embarrassment??

Fauci, for one, is soooooo F’d.

scott467

“They relied on “expert advice.” From an expert everyone they watched SAID was an expert. So yes they are going to be pissed.”

______________

The truth is they did whatever they wanted to do, like people always do, and the ‘expert advice’ was a convenient cover.

How can we know?

Easy.

Because there is no shortage of ‘expert advice’ that these same people routinely ignore, just like everybody else does.

The ‘experts’ just provided a convenient justification / cover to act out their own desires.

They can tell themselves whatever they want so they can sleep at night.

It doesn’t change what they did.

Deplorable Patriot

Victims.

I saw a choir mate’s selfie on FB earlier (the place is a ghetto these days) and she was all masked up, etc. She’s one who will claim victim status as she’s done it just about her entire life.

Deplorable Patriot

I doubt some of them will ever wake up, or admit they were lied to. It would be entirely too painful for them.

Gail Combs

I doubt some of them will ever wake up….”

…..

I have been looking for this Q post and finally found it. Interesting that gallop has 7% have GREAT TRUST in the media…

3029

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 03/11/2019 18:30:49  ID: 58ea93

Archive Bread/Post Links: 5629114 / 5629177

Direct Link: 5629177

https://twitter.com/BuddhaKatze/status/1105228537190068224

4-6% [brainwashed] will never wake up even when presented w/ FACTS.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/the-historic-results-of-president-donald-j-trumps-first-two-years-in-office/

Q

Deplorable Patriot

And I know quite a few of them.

Deplorable Patriot

My dad is still watching that junk.

kalbokalbs

All five of my siblings believe the official narrative, Pravda News…

Gail Combs

“…Will this be the time they realize it about our media?…”

…..

ONLY 7% have a GREAT DEAL of Trust in the Fake NEWS!!!
29% had a ‘Fair amount’

And in 2018, polls showed 72% thought the Fake News printed news THEY KNEW WAS FALSE!

We HAVE to quit allowing the Communists BRAINWASH US into thinking they are the Majority and there are a LOT of them. MOST are just sheep following who ever looks strong. However as the financial HURT and other uncomfortable things prod them out of their stupor, they are waking up as the polling shows. (They are just not going to admit it to us.)

We THINK there are a lot more of them then there actually are for two reasons.

  1. The leaders are Loud Mouthed bullies
  2. The followers are wimps

I addressed this yesterday.
HERE I show the media is foundering like the Titanic after hitting the iceberg.

For example:
DAILY MAIL: Tuning out! Viewership at scandal-plagued CNN plummets by as much as 90% from last year in both overall audience and in advertiser-coveted 25-to-54 demographic

The Trust in Media I am going to copy and paste:

This is from my old notes:

 The Media has lost all control:
06/27/18 — Poll: 72 percent say traditional outlets ‘report news they know to be fake, false, or purposely misleading’

Seventy-two percent of Americans believe “traditional major news sources report news they know to be fake, false, or purposely misleading,” according to a new poll from Axios and SurveyMonkey released on Thursday.

The poll of nearly 4,000 adults shows that 92 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents “say that traditional news outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes,” a finding in line with other recent polls conducted by Pew Research and Gallup.

It found the sentiment extends to those who identify as independents and Democrats, with 79 percent of independents also saying traditional outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes. Democrats agree by a slight majority of 53 percent.

AND IT GETS WORSE….

OCTOBER 7, 2021
Americans’ Trust in Media Dips to Second Lowest on Record
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

  • 36% in U.S. have a “great deal” or “fair amount” of trust in mass media [NOTE they had to add in fair amount. That is relatively new, within the last decade]
  • 68% of Democrats, 31% of independents and 11% of Republicans trust media
  • Democrats’ and independents’ trust is down five points since 2020, GOP’s flat

In all, 7% of U.S. adults say they have “a great deal” and 29% “a fair amount” of trust and confidence in newspapers, television and radio news reporting — which, combined, is four points above the 32% record low in 2016

I wish I had kept it, but Gallop used to only use “a great deal” but since the Bank Bailout confidence in the media dropped so low they had to start adding in “a fair amount” Just to get it somewhere over 50%. Now even that doesn’t work.

Their graph shows what I mean.
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ForGodandCountry

See what I mean?

patriot AI

gotta be.

kalbokalbs

As Steve mentioned in a related post a few days ago, tens of millions are glued to the idiot boxes AND BELIEVE every word spewed by THE (faux) EXPERTS.

Common Sense was NEVER in play. SIMPLY, BE VERY, VERY SKEERED. So, folks acted skeered AND COMPLIED. dumb asses.

gil00

They are 1st to accuse wrongly, and leadt likely to take responsibility. Lefties live in unicorn hair fantasy land among tiktok and other self absorbed social media sites. They should make their mea culpas publicly but ill be damned if these people deserve positions of power or privilege ever.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen.

cthulhu
gil00

Some really bad unforgivable or forgettable moments there.

Aubergine

I think there are some people who will continue to insist that mask-wearing is the “right thing to do” during cold and flu season, even in the face of all evidence, and continue to do it for the rest of their lives to avoid EVER having to admit they were had. I really do.

TheseTruths

I completely agree. They are all in now.

Gail Combs

Not for a virus and it could make a person a lot more ill from the bacteria/virus they would breath in that is on the mask. Also you do not become ill unless the pathogen is above a threshold number. Masks therefore could make you sick where as encountering a minimal viral load would only make you immune. (Cavers becoming immune to rabies comes to mind.)

Also if I remember correctly, you NEED to ‘exercise’ your immune system to keep it healthy. Masks are good for dusts and maybe pollen unless you get into well fitted correctly worn (AND disposed of) masks.

Aubergine

I doubt it would do much, and here’s why.

The sick person in front of you in line touched their face putting on their mask before they came in. Almost ALL people touch their eyes (absolute wells of virus) all the time. The sick person in line pays with cash that goes in the drawer, or a card, which requires him to touch a keypad.

You get to the cashier, and pay with cash or a card. The top twenty in the drawer that you get for change has virus on it. The key pad you use your card in has virus on it. Even if you get no change, and don’t use a card, the checkers HANDS have virus on them, that have transferred to the plastic bags they put your groceries in.

The ONLY defense you have against cold and flu is your immune system. You can use best practices like hand washing, not touching door knobs, and the like, but you WILL come into contact with cold and flu viruses. How you fare is dependent on your body’s health.

gil00

Thats their scarlet letter by choice then. Must easier to assume substandard reasoning or intellect i spose.

Aubergine

I don’t mind if they brand themselves. Makes it easier to know who to avoid!

scott467

I hate the mask.

It’s symbolic of all the BS that was done to us, and those who continue wearing it identify themselves as those who supported what was done to us.

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Aubergine

Yes, they sure do.

Cuppa Covfefe

Just look at Asia ever since SARS some years ago. Anyone gets a cold, on goes the mask… Born to follow, it seems…

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scott467

I suspect most will do neither.

Taking responsibility is definitely out, no chance.

But playing ‘victims’ out for blood would be:

A) drawing attention to their own humiliation

and

B) being out for blood would be to attack their own side, the hive mind — it would actually require recognizing one is distinct from the hive, and then attacking the hive, including their entire social circle, most of whom will still be in the hive, and forging a brave new life outside the hive mind.

The people who went along with Fauxzi’s Final Solution don’t strike me as the bold, courageous or principled type.

I expect they’ll just go silent, and hope everyone forgets what they did.

That’s the easiest path, the path of least resistance, and that’s right up their alley.

TheseTruths

I normally don’t click on CNN, but I was unknowingly directed there from somewhere else. For CNN to be writing these things, they are finally admitting how bad it is, or else they are paving the way for a replacement for His Fraudulency. This is a very long article.

Biden leaves Democrats hanging as midterms burst into full swing
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/biden-democrats-midterm-election/index.html

(CNN)President Joe Biden spotted Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney on the White House campus last June and called out to the House Democratic campaign chair loudly enough for several others to hear: “I really want to talk to you about the races!” he shouted. 

A week later, at the cherry festival in Traverse City, Michigan, Biden leaned into Sen. Gary Peters, who’s in charge of Democratic Senate campaigns, with the same promise. He’s always cared most about Senate races, Biden told the Michigan Democrat, and he wanted to have a meeting, an hour at least, to talk about helping his party hold the chamber in 2022. 

Maloney’s staff eagerly followed up. So did Peters’. Then they followed up again. And again. Seven months later, there are still no meetings on the books. 

They’re not the only ones who’ve been left waiting. In three dozen exclusive interviews with CNN, top Democratic politicians, campaign officials and operatives say the White House political operation is heading into the midterms unprepared and unresponsive even to basic requests for help or information.

Biden advisers say that the President talks politics with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, but people familiar with both leaders say any campaign talk has been brief, and Democratic leaders have significant concerns with the White House’s approach to getting the President to break through. It’s not just that Biden’s approval ratings have tumbled. Those in charge of keeping Democrats in power doubt that Biden’s team understands how to improve his political fate — and with it, theirs. 

“It’s hard for me to believe that the President knows how little his political shop is doing to support Democratic majorities in the Senate and the House. All of us believe that the President would be shocked to learn how little the White House political team is doing,” said one senior Democratic elected official in Washington, voicing widespread worries about the midterms. “We just know Joe Biden, and we know how much he cares about this stuff.” 

Senior Democrats, including some White House aides, describe a West Wing lacking both a political strategy and the discipline to execute one. Focus groups are giving party operatives nightmares. Biden is coming across as old and absent, they say. Real and perceived fumbles play into deep fears that he’s not up to the job and that Democrats are incompetent. Few Americans can say what was in the massive bills he’s signed, though many have heard about Democratic infighting and failure in what he hasn’t signed. 

“What is the plan to fix that?” asked one operative in touch with the White House. “They can’t tell us what they’re talking about next week.” 

Though most Democrats in power believe there’s still ample time for a turnaround, several top operatives are already talking triage. They’re fearful of discussing all of this publicly because they don’t want to create more problems. But privately, they are petrified that a Republican majority would end Biden’s agenda and swamp them with endless investigations and subpoenas, promise impeachment and potentially endanger fair certification of the next presidential election. All this comes as former President Donald Trump has begun assembling a stricter political operation from Mar-a-Lago, aiming to use a strong presence and win record in 2022 to potentially bulldoze his way through 2024…

Biden and his aides are currently in a natural shift to campaign mode, they argue, with one Biden adviser telling CNN the President and those in his orbit believe there’s ample time for his numbers to climb back to a strong position before November. 

“History is against us, and we have work to do here,” the adviser said. “But I am not over-torqued by where we are, because we have the right story, we have the right person who can connect with people.

😂😂😂

… We have to work harder, but we have the ingredients and the pieces.”

“We haven’t talked about our accomplishments near enough.

😂😂😂

“The accomplishments by definition will delineate who’s for what, and who’s not for what,” said Sen. Jon Tester, a Montana Democrat and former DSCC chair. “I point the finger at myself as much as everybody in the Senate, as much as everybody in the House, as much as everybody in the executive branch.” 

There is some detail about the lack of outreach to Congress.

But without a centralized system at work outside Biden’s own brain, the politics are coming off a bit scatter-shot. Other high-level Democratic leaders in the House and Senate tell CNN they often hear conflicting messages from different contacts in the White House — if they hear anything at all. 

…multiple White House aides and outside operatives told CNN of a frustrating lack of long-term political strategy, from Klain or anyone else. 

Hard to believe this one:

“The paradox of his poll numbers is that members of the Senate and House do not see him as a political liability when he shows up in person,” said the senior Democratic elected official, complaining that the White House operation isn’t utilizing Biden well. “The solution is more Joe Biden, not less.” 

And:

Biden knows he has a problem, at least in terms of his public message. In meetings with staffers, he’ll occasionally remark on his poll numbers and express exasperation that his message isn’t breaking through. 

No mention of memory lapses, dementia, or gaffes. They seem to be pretending that no one sees those things and that they are responsible for a lot of the problems.

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kalbokalbs

Hard to believe this one:

“The paradox of his poll numbers is that members of the Senate and House do not see him as a political liability when he shows up in person,” said the senior Democratic elected official, complaining that the White House operation isn’t utilizing Biden well. “The solution is more Joe Biden, not less.”

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE send that babbling fool BiteMe to Northern NV to campaign. HECKLERS, this fool included, WILL out number BiteMe goofs that may show up.

TheseTruths

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The sidebar menu for Steve’s science posts is now all caught up.

Just an FYI, if you’re looking for something in particular.

In cataloging these things, I’m reminded of just how much work went into them!

Impressive!

cthulhu

Beware the labor theory of value!

If you give a journeyman carpenter a set of plans, a foundation, an appropriate stack of lumber, and hand tools, he can build you a sturdy house in about 35 weeks. If you give him power tools, you can get the house in 12 weeks.

If you give a wood butcher a set of plans, a foundation, an appropriate stack of lumber, and hand tools, he can provide you a pile of firewood in about 35 weeks. If you give him power tools, you can get the firewood in 12 weeks and probably have some on-the-job injuries.

It’s not the efforts that Steve made…..it’s that he provided a sequence of beautiful weekly jewel-boxes that delightfully highlighted the progress of science. Were he a lesser author, he could have exerted himself twice as hard and produced unpleasant, confusing junk.

In a just world, he’s got 75% of a book here that would engage and entertain people getting caught-up on modern physics. Being that he doesn’t properly genuflect (or have appropriate land acknowledgements at each step), this is unlikely to happen.

But he should certainly be lauded for the quality of his works, rather than the efforts expended to produce them (did every WordPress crash improve the worth of a post?).