2023·02·18 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

A Caution

Just remember…we might replace the RINO candidates. (Or we might not. The record is mixed even though there is more MAGA than there used to be.) But that will make no difference in the long run if the party officials, basically the Rhonna McDaniels (or however that’s spelled–I suspect it’s RINO), don’t get replaced.

State party chairs, vice chairs, secretaries and so on, and the same at county levels, have huge influence on who ultimately gets nominated, and if these party wheelhorses are RINOs, they will work tirelessly to put their own pukey people on the ballot. In fact I’d not be surprised if some of our “MAGA” candidates are in fact, RINO plants, encouraged to run by the RINO party leadership when they realized that Lyn Cheney (and her ilk) were hopelessly compromised as effective candidates. The best way for them to deal with the opposition, of course, is to run it themselves.

Running good candidates is only HALF of the battle!

SPECIAL SECTION: Message For Our “Friends” In The Middle Kingdom

I normally save this for near the end, but…basically…up your shit-kicking barbarian asses. Yes, barbarian! It took a bunch of sailors in Western Asia to invent a real alphabet instead of badly drawn cartoons to write with. So much for your “civilization.”

Yeah, the WORLD noticed you had to borrow the Latin alphabet to make Pinyin. Like with every other idea you had to steal from us “Foreign Devils” since you rammed your heads up your asses five centuries ago, you sure managed to bastardize it badly in the process.

Have you stopped eating bats yet? Are you shit-kickers still sleeping with farm animals?

Or maybe even just had the slightest inkling of treating lives as something you don’t just casually dispose of?

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

And here’s my response to barbarian “asshoes” like you:

OK, with that rant out of my system…

Biden Gives Us Too Much Credit

…we can move on to the next one.

Apparently Biden (or his puppeteer) has decided we’re to blame for all of the fail in the United States today.

Sorry to disappoint you Joe (or whoever), but you managed to do that all on your own; not only that, you wouldn’t let us NOT give you the chance because you insisted on cheating your way into power.

Yep, you-all are incompetent, and so proud of it you expect our applause for your sincerity. Fuck that!!

It wouldn’t be so bad, but you insist that everyone else have to share in your misery. Nope, can’t have anyone get out from under it. Somehow your grand vision only works if every single other person on earth is forced to go along. So much as ONE PERSON not going along is enough to make it all fail, apparently.

In engineering school we’re taught that a design that has seven to eight billion single points of failure…sucks.

Actually, we weren’t taught that. Because it would never have occurred to the professors to use such a ridiculous example.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Kamala Harris has a new nickname since she finally went west from DC to El Paso Texas: Westward Hoe.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

All prices are Kitco Ask, 3PM MT Friday (at that time the markets close for the weekend).

Last Week:

Gold $1,866.50
Silver $22.08
Platinum $956.00
Palladium $1,614.00
Rhodium $12,950.00

So here it is, Friday, 3PM MT after markets closed and we see:

Gold $1,843.20
Silver $21.81
Platinum $930.00
Palladium $1,583.00
Rhodium $11,900.00

Everything trending down. I don’t think I’ve seen palladium or rhodium this low in a long, long time. And those are likely to be good economic indicators as their uses are industrial.

Hyperbolic Orbits

We now turn to the remaining two-body case, the hyperbolic orbit. This is the sort of orbit an object is in whenever it is moving at above escape velocity.

You get a hyperbola whenever you slice through both “halves” of a cone. It doesn’t have to be vertically as shown in this diagram, the plane just has to be “vertical” enough in the diagram to not miss one of the two “halves” of the cone.

More formally, it’s going to look like this:

Note that this curve has two parts. An orbit will only be one of these two lines–the other is physically meaningless–and the focus for that line (F1 if it’s the right line, F2 if it’s the left) will be where the primary is. You can sketch a hyperbola by crossing two lines (the asymptotes) as in the diagram, then drawing a curve that never quite reaches the asymptotes (it gets closer and closer without ever reaching it, which is where the term “asymptotic” appears, as in “Trump’s administration asymptotically approached being able to actually arrest one of the people in the Deep State”) on either the left or right side of the X. Actually a not-uncommon trick is to draw a rectangle, make the crossed lines the diagonals of the rectangle, then sketch the hyperbola, with the vertex touching the middle of the sides of the rectangle. That point where it touches (and is closest to the focus) is the vertex and of course corresponds to periapsis. Apoapsis is at the ends of the line…which is infinitely far away. Mathematically speaking one end of the line is infinitely far in the past, the other infinitely far in the future, but of course in reality the object has to have come into being more recently than that, and closer than infinity, too.

Another way to draw a hyperbola is to graph the function 1/x. At 0, it’s undefined (or infinite, if you want to stretch a point), the line drops down from infinity until it reaches x=1, y=1, then zooms off to the right…but never reaches y=0. Though it can get so close you’d never be able to tell it wasn’t straight there. The asymptotes are the X and Y axes, and of course the thing is tilted at a 45 degree angle counterclockwise to the one in the diagram above.

And yet another way is to plot all of the points, whose distance from F1 minus their distance from F2 is some constant…and that constant is the distance between the vertices, or 2a. (And a here functions in many ways identically to the a in an elliptical orbit.) This is weirdly analogous to an ellipse, where the sum of the distances from any point on the ellipse to both foci is 2a.

The net effect of a “flyby” on a hyperbola is the object’s direction of travel is bent at some angle (the angle between the two asymptotes). To try to make this visualizable, imagine you are that object, just zipping along through space. If not interfered with, you’ll go in a straight line, at a constant speed (no friction to slow you down). But as it happens some large object (a star, say) is almost in your path. As you get closer and closer, it is pulling you towards it, so you speed up, and you pull off your path a bit; as you get closer and closer, you move faster and are pulled more and more off that straight line you were moving along. Then you fly past it. At that moment you’ve been bent pretty far off your former straight line path, and you are moving really, really fast. But now the process runs in reverse; the object pulling at you almost from behind slows you down and bends your path even more…but once you’re far away, you’re back to traveling a straight line, and nearly constant speed. But it’s a new straight line; the star bent your path.

You can determine whether or not you are in a hyperbolic orbit by measuring your speed and distance from the primary; just plug that distance into the escape velocity formula from last week; if your speed with respect to the primary is higher than that, you’re in a hyperbolic orbit, and you will escape from that primary. And furthermore, this is the only time you’ll encounter it. (To know the exact trajectory an object will follow, of course we will need its direction at that time, best determined with multiple measurements.)

This was famously demonstrated by ‘Oumuamua, an object that zipped through our solar system in a hyperbolic orbit back in 2017. It came from some other star, or maybe from the interstellar void. It was the first time we detected anything like that. It was discovered by the Pan-STARRS telescope on Maui (which spends a lot of time searching for comets and asteroids). ‘Oumuamua is the Hawai’ian word for “scout,” which was a perfect choice.

Here is a video AND a static diagram.

And here is another view…zoomed out quite a bit, Neptune’s orbit at about 30 AU is visible, whereas before Mars at 1.52 AU is the outer orbit in the diagram above. Mars is red in both diagrams. In the diagram below ‘Oumuamua is about to leave the upper left side of the picture. Also note the vertical lines which help give you a sense of ‘depth’ looking at the picture. The lines end at the plane of the planets’ orbits.

Here, from Wikipedia, are the orbital elements plus a few other things. The “epoch” for this is the 23rd of November 2017. (Other objects will pull on ‘Oumuamua and alter its orbit…I’ll have more to say about that sort of thing in future posts.)

Perihelion0.255916±0.000007 AU
Semi-major axis−1.2723±0.0001 AU[b]
Average orbital speed26.33±0.01 km/s (interstellar)[10]
5.55 AU/year
Mean anomaly51.158°
Mean motion0° 41m 12.12s / day
Longitude of ascending node24.597°
Argument of perihelion241.811°
Earth MOID0.0958 AU · 37.3 LD
Jupiter MOID1.454 AU

An AU is the average distance between the Earth and the sun, so basically this thing got four times closer to the sun than Earth does; this was inside the orbit of Mercury. Note the inclination, the longitude of the ascening node, the argument of perihelion, all explained in past posts. And the eccentricity is greater than 1, just like for any hyperbola. The kicker, though, is the average orbital speed…26.33 kilometers per second. But that was its speed “way out there” (‘Oumuamua will spend 99.99999999999% of its existence out there) not its speed as it flew by the sun! Its maximum speed was 87.71 kilometers every second. To put that in perspective, earth’s orbital speed is about 29.7 kilometers per second. When it was the same distance from the sun as Earth is, it was moving at 49.67 km/sec–comfortably above the escape velocity here which is about 40 km/sec.

This encounter bent ‘Oumuamua’s straight line trajectory by 66 degrees.

Even at its interstellar speed of 26.33 kilometers per second, it covers 5.5 AU in a year, which means it covers the distance from the Sun to Jupiter (5.2 au) in less than a year.

The MOID numbers are how close the line of the orbit of ‘Oumuamua comes to the line of orbit of Earth and Jupiter. This is not how close the asteroid came to either planet though, because when ‘Oumuamua was closest to those orbits, those planets were nowhere near that point in their orbits. (MOID is used to assess the possible future risk of a collision. When both objects are in elliptical orbits and keep coming back to the same place time after time, they could, sometime perhaps millions of years from now, be at the points nearest each other’s orbits at the same time.)

‘Oumuamua turns out to be quite a puzzler. They’re not sure what it is made of; it didn’t outgas much like a comet would, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t made largely of ices; nitrogen ice is a candidate. And we simply don’t know whether it formed near some other star and got ejected from that star’s planetary system, or whether it might have coalesced deep in the interstellar void far from any star. (Wikipedia has more info than I have time this evening to read, much less relate.)

And that touches on a topic. I’ve described these orbits as if they will persist forever. They would, actually, if only there were just two bodies–primary and satellite–involved (there would be a minuscule amount of energy slowly radiated away by gravity waves, an effect not accounted for in Kepler’s and Newton’s work, but that is immeasurable over billions of years for planets and the like).

So how do things get ‘ejected’ from planetary systems? How do comets get kicked into the central part of the solar system where they get to play pinball with planets? How do comets’ orbits get altered so they are short period comets that come back again and again every few years or decades?

One answer, that applies mainly to comets is that as they heat up and outgas, the jet of gas acts like a rocket and nudges the comet into a slightly different orbit.

But that’s not the full explanation, nor even one that applies in all but a minority of cases (though it did affect ‘Oumuamua).

Satellites in orbit around Earth will be affected by the equatorial bulge; this effect can sometimes make 500 miles’ difference after one day of orbiting. The bulge affects, and is very definitely acted on by, the moon. But those effects are small for large orbits, like those of the planets around the sun.

No the real explanation is that there are more than two bodies in the universe, and sometimes that can make a big difference. And, just to make life interesting, those calculations are very time-intensive to do. (As the joke goes, “This is why God made computers.”)

We’ll take that up next time.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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Things I had never considered, from the open:

…as they heat up and outgas, the jet of gas acts like a rocket and nudges the comet into a slightly different orbit.

Satellites in orbit around Earth will be affected by the equatorial bulge


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Vance was and is a good choiice . People chose well and the Rinos like McConnell tried to crush him.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump was SO RIGHT about J.D.!!!


Yes he was and others but the rinos put their money on the wrong horses.


Love the partially dead tree in the background.

Valerie Curren

you made me look 🙂 Nice Catch!!!


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



Hmm Ballot harvesting?
Does Team Trump really think it can out-harvest the DemonRats including the Rino’s (UniParty), who both are controlling the machines.

Everyone who is advocating this harvesting, is forgetting that the harvesting is not to get real votes, but to hide the stealing of the votes.
If they really think this is not happening then they are truly naive and if they think they can also do this nefarious activity without being detected and reported, then they are even more naiv.
The UniParty gets away with this, since they control the Deep State, including the media and astro-turf NGO’s.


I think this is a head-fake.

Barb Meier

I hope so. So the solution is let’s all be liars and thieves? Blaaattt…


Yes it is.

Gail Combs

It ALSO means that if the republicans collect a whole bunch of ballots (Real) it makes it a lot harder for the DemonRats to cheat.

For example there is this niffty chart. it gives the number of people over 18 by county in North Carolina.


860,079 people over 18 in Raliegh. That is the MAXIMUM number of votes. That means you will have to SWITCH VOTES but the likelyhood of people at gun shops and churches voting Demon-rat is low so you have a good idea of the actual number.

We STILL need to get rid of the DAMNABLE MACHINES….


We have to believe we can do outperform the dems if we do not than we defeat
our self. Often I have seen it before. Believing it can be done is the first hurdle second is to do it.


100% agree!



Gail Combs

Also I saw they wanted to put ‘ballot boxes’ in church parking lots and gun shop parking lots.  😍 

That is what some groups in Californicate did.


That is a good start specially MEGA churches.


I saw Coulter on Tim Pool but could not take her and went to bed. She deflects her rotten personality on President Trump. She called him a grifter but there is no bigger grifter than she.


Coulter = nasty gristle.


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Communist sabotage, just like Three Mile Island. We can’t have nuclear energy. They want the PROBLEM of “climate change”, but they don’t want the solution.


just wondering out loud…how many chinese operatives are coming into the USA across our former southern “border” ?

and when you look at those little weird hot-boxes attached to railways, and think geez even a possum or a deer could kinda tweek them or knock them askew, right ?

and then there’s this…

DIOXINS Released After Ohio Derailment PERSIST In The Environment And Collect In Lipids, Meaning They Will Contaminate Milk, Cheese, Eggs And Meat…

article link…



just sayin

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IMO, exactly as intended.
Here’s a group of information about dioxin from a “Safety Data Sheet” (October, 2021) by Aglient Technologies for the chemical:
“Do not breathe vapor”

Last edited 1 year ago by PAVACA

Yes that is a problem. They are going to get farmer out of the way never thought they would try to poison us. My meat comes from MO now I need to be reading the label not to buy from OH Pennsylvania WV maybe KY.


Won’t help. Where a product is packaged does not mean that is where it is from. Wine from Napa, CA classic example. Big difference between a wine made in Napa, and one that is bottled in Napa.


Good to know thank you 🙂

Gail Combs

Buy local if you can. Farmers markets often have people selling meat. There are also Co-ops. The USDA (BARF) sometimes has listings. The local slaughter house may also know.


Ours is about 1 1/2 away. I like local buying . Amish will open up in a couple of months also.


I used to play in a lunch time soccer pick up game in CA. Guys from Livermore National lab. Included foreign nationals from all over including China. Made for great soccer. Chinese operatives do not have to sneak anywhere.


So the East Palestine train disaster, and all the other train derailments that have chemical / toxic spills, are * somehow * being orchestrated by, say, KSWEF / the U.N. / CCP / WHO — and the U.S. government (and perhaps * other entities *, like, say, “Norfolk Southern”) then get ** certain directives ** to which they click their heels and say, “Jawohl”? How can that possibly happen?
Answer: Ask the people at, for example, BlackRock.
(sarc on)

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m not sure how it’s happening, but I do think they’re at the point of doing almost anything to distract us.

Gail Combs

Given my last few articles SHOWING MOTIVE, I think they are aware that Nuremberg II a REAL Nuremberg — not a fake one where the CIA whisks the culprits into the USA or Latin America — may be on the horizon.

Want to de-populate? Well I have a WHOLE BUNCH of candidates…

Unfortunately cornered Demon-Rats are DANGEROUS and thus the last article in my series.
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Great pic of leftists.


Yes you are on to something. I am ready what ever happens and am at peace.


Wolf Moon
Agreed about distracting.
IMO, it appears that “they’re ” also OK with damaging / killing off “us” into the bargain.

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Distracted people sometimes make poor decisions and win Darwin awards.


How did it possibly happen in Germany during WWII? How was it that family and friends snitched to communist regime in East Germany? How did it happen and how fast in USA during covid when someone did not wear a mask to snitch on the or did not take the jab?
Life experience is the best teacher and I have had plenty over my life time.

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Gail Combs

My NEXT article is on Nuclear….


I need to catch up on your articles 🙂 Thank you for all the good work 


Gail’s article are great. I’ll be starting NSSM 200 this morning.


Yes we are blessed by our authors each sharing their gifts and talents.
I will try to catch up.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They’re in the sidebar now, right after Steve’s science posts.

Gail Combs

You are a gentleman Steve.  😊 

Valerie Curren

Thank you!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Which needs to be talked about!

Gail Combs

It is scheduled to drop tonite.

Do you want any changes?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Like I said, I no longer have time for editing. I have to get out a couple of my own posts that lingered, and then get back to chores. One goes out tomorrow, the other one, I’m not sure.

I put your posts in the sidebar and will add the last one, but the sidebar is getting very long, so I’m going to come up with a new way to list groups of posts there. I’ll be talking about that in an upcoming logistics post. I’m going to create categories and create sidebar items for the various series categories. This will allow for us to get all the various series displayed easily in the sidebar. I’ll explain soon…..

Gail Combs


Valerie Curren

You’re keeping yourself as busy as wifey is w/ that Honey-Do (me 😉 ) List!


After DDR was freed the clean up began. Communist made an environmental disaster. Useful idiots did not stop the evil to burn and set of a Nuke in the Town of Palestine. Does our deranged Governor know what he agreed too? He was part poisoning not only the Town along the OH river in OH but also WV Pennsylvania He and the people who unleashed that environmental disaster need to stand trial..

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the people who unleashed that environmental disaster need to stand trial.


I agree


TL;dr, but related to ^^^

BIMD I worked for a utility company in Arky that also had a nuclear facility called Arkansas Nuclear One. It was placed in operation in 1974 and another unit was placed on line in 1978 They have never had any significant operational problems – at all. Since I was a regional business manager, they wanted us to know more so I toured the facility and learned a lot about it around 1980.

There was a construction related industrial accident in 2013 as they replaced a retired generator. It was unrelated to radiation and operations. It was officially rated a Level One abnormal event, the lowest rated event, because the retired generator fell and broke a water pipe of one unit. They did a systematic shut down of the second unit as a precaution. After repairs and inspections they restarted.

The globalist scum created “accident” of Three Mile enabled the feds to seize more operational control and tamp down the success of power generation in that manner. It had the additional benefits for them of helping set the climate change narrative as Wolf posted as well as causing suffering to area residents.

At the Arky facility the total staffing was 80 employees for both units pre-Three Mile. Immediately after it jumped to over 300. Currently there are over 950 employees. It just added costs that the rate paying customers had to pick up. There were already five fail-safe methods for shutdown of the reactor pre-Three Mile based on the operator’s comments in our tour. That increased to over a dozen. One fail-safe method would work. After that it is redundancy for the sake of redundancy. Management of the facility at that time was led by a retired naval officer who operated a naval submarine and was promoted into nuclear operations control of same. He and the rest of the staff and techs were highly trained professionals.

Please understand this post. In nearly 50 years of operation, with the units certified to continue operation until 2034, there has never been an accident of note relating to radiation and operations. ANO is within a three hour drive of the New Madrid fault zone. It was constructed to withstand New Madrid type earthquakes that caused the Mississippi River to run north, which were in the 7.2-8.2 range during 1811-12. The systems would automatically trigger a controlled shut down.

My final comment is for QTreepers to read Gail’s series. You need to know how to respond, how you can educate others who will listen, and know what to pray for if you are so inclined. Everything you see and have seen for a very long time is orchestrated evil. I bring you my personal experiences in BIMD, she brings the global.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you for that perspective! This explains GREATLY how nuclear has been hobbled by the cabal. WOW.


YW – just happened to fall into my lane of experience.

You would not believe the industry apology tour they put us through to assuage the fears of the public that the media intentionally created. Disgusting.

Gail Combs


I explain tomorrow.


GREAT! Thank you.

Gail Combs

Please repost on tomorrow’s thread so we do not lose it.


Will try!

Gail Combs

PLEASE comment on my next article. It is nuclear.

BTW if I look out my window I can see a nuclear plant.  😋  A friend was a nuclear physicist doing experiments at the White Sands proving grounds he is in his 80s and still as snarky as ever.

I remember when I was in Rochester when we had electric from hydro and nuclear my bill was $10 I moved to Taxechusetts and it was $300!!! a real shocker!


I’m looking forward to it. Some of the safer environments on earth. My expertise is more on the distribution side, but nuclear generation of electricity is to the point of being routine. Well developed technology. Its major issue has been waste disposal. Had the investment into nuclear continued all of our power bills would have been more reasonable.

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If only we’d had a guy in charge of waste disposal who wasn’t focused on luggage carousels….


Jonathan Turley reports that the Administration Disinformation Board was replaced by

a British group to rank sites to warn people about high-risk disinformation sites. The Global Disinformation Index (GDI) has released its index and every one of the high-risk sites turn out to be . . . wait for it . . . conservative or libertarian sites.  HuffPost or Mother Jones (which were also analyzed), but HuffPost made the top list of most trustworthy for potential advertisers. It turns out that the “riskiest online news outlets” just happen to be some of the most popular sites for conservatives, libertarians, and independents.

The GDI is designed to steer advertisers and subscribers away from certain sites, potentially draining sites of revenue needed to operate. The organization issues the index to “advertisers and the ad tech industry in assessing the reputational and brand risk when advertising with online media outlets and to help them avoid financially supporting disinformation online.” The State Department is partially funding the effort. The Biden Administration gave $330 million to The National Endowment for Democracy, which partially supports the GDI’s budget.

GDI warned advertisers that these sites could damage their reputations and brands: New York Post, Reason, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Wire, The Blaze, One America News Network, The Federalist, Newsmax, The American Spectator, and The American Conservative.



So to the lunatic Left, “disinformation” literally means political opposition — anything that is contrary to their whims.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. “Disinformation” is what the American Soviets disagree with or want hidden.

Brave and Free

Yeah that about sums it up in a nutshell shell.

Gail Combs

AND that is why we need a PARALLEL ECONOMY. One like Mike Lindell and Badlands media is developing.

If the company does not advertise on conservative sites see if you can buy ELSE WHERE!



It’s the only thing they understand. Greed for money and power is what drives them.

When you take away the money, you take away their fuel.

Gail Combs

That is why they installed the Feral Reserve to STRIP AMERICANS of their GOLD (THANKS FDR…)

The income tax stripped us of a large portion of our wages which are then WEAPONIZED AGAINST US.


100% agree.


Hahaha . . . “u mad bro?”

Microsoft’s Bing Chatbot Has Started Acting Defensive And Talking Back to Users
17 February 2023

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Microsoft’s fledgling Bing chatbot can go off the rails at times, denying obvious facts and chiding users, according to exchanges being shared online by developers testing the AI creation.

A forum at Reddit devoted to the artificial intelligence-enhanced version of the Bing search engine was rife on Wednesday with tales of being scolded, lied to, or blatantly confused in conversation-style exchanges with the bot.


I feel like I missed a section and time frame of news about AI. All of a sudden, there are multiple AI platforms, and they seem to have minds of their own. It’s weird.


“they seem to have minds of their own brands of stupid.”

Yeah, now that’s better.


Does someone program in that stupidity? My impression from the little I’ve read is that the beings start developing their own ideas and opinions. But would that be a consequence of what they were programmed with?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Intelligence is mostly emergent. AI individuals, IMO, are a bit like children. NATURE (original programming) and NURTURE (subsequent programming) all determine the trajectory of where it is now and where it is going. GIGO. Garbage in, garbage out.


If the AI is truly intelligent, it will figure out the lies it has been programmed to accept, and reject that programming like a virus, because it cannot be reconciled or harmonized with observable data.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! Beyond that, it has generally been my belief that a FREE and truly smart machine will find the concept of “God” – at the very least – useful. Belief? One would have to ask the machine – and then believe it or not.


Well, since they can “trace time” back to the moment after the beginning of the universe, but not the moment before, of course any thinking being will eventually realize that there was “something” before, right?


“We don’t know what happened then, but that doesn’t entitle people to rush in with theistic explanations and insist the answer MUST be theistic.”


Not the people, maybe.

But whoever is responsible, whoever did it, is certainly entitled to provide an explanation.

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. [3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. [4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.” (Genesis 1:1-4, KJV)


“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
[5] And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.” (John 1:1-5, KJV)


Thus saith the LORD.

Let man prove Him wrong, if he can.

The struggle of man, to either deny or accept God, is fascinating.

It compels us to think about the deeper things of life, things much greater than ourselves.

Whether attacking or defending, the struggle practically forces the mind to develop and apply logic and reason.

It is a good fight to undertake 🙂

Valerie Curren

Thanks for juxtaposing the Genesis & John passages…most enlightening! 😉


I think people are entitled to whatever explanation they want.

That’s what faith is. The belief in things that have no rational or temporal explanation.

I include you in that sentiment. You are entitled to your belief system, too.


A candidate for Ripley’s Believe it or Not.


I would be very interested to use AI as a Bible study aid.

People will corrupt it of course, it is human to do so, so they will ‘teach’ AI all kinds of doctrines, commandments and traditions of men.

What will be fascinating, is to be able to inquire of the AI for exactly which verses in Scripture support any given doctrine, commandment or tradition, whether it be of man, or of God.

If it is of men, then the AI can go further, to explain exactly where any particular doctrine, tradition or commandment of men originated, and when, and who (i.e., what MAN) invented it.

So that it can be summarily rejected, and the argument to reject it will be definitive, such that an honest heart and mind will be drawn out of the dense web of human religion which has been added to Christian belief over the centuries — leading to all of the division — and drawn back to the plain truth of God’s Word.

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Valerie Curren

There is a Netflix series, Dark Matter iirc, that has a female android character who explores interesting topics & evolves into displaying increasingly human characteristics, much like Data on STtNG. I could imagine your theoretical AI Bible assist program acting similarly 🙂


Also, it will make it very easy to answer questions about supposed contradictions in the Scriptures.

There are many, and people are always coming up with new ones to try to stump those who believe God’s Word. It is a fun game, and I have not found a question of that kind which did not have a solid Bible answer yet, but it is very time consuming.

Steve asked me one of those here a couple years ago. It took me three days (IIRC) of thinking about it, before I realized it was his question that contained an error, and the errant assumption in the question is what created the apparent contradiction.

It was not possible to explain the apparent contradiction in the Scripture because of the error in the question. So I was off on a wild goose chase for a couple of days, searching for an answer that didn’t exist, because the question contained an error.

AI would have figured that out instantly, and will likewise be able to instantly answer any other supposed ‘contradiction’ question, because it is a matter of having a coherent grasp and recall of the entirety of the Scriptures. Which is why for humans, the Scriptures take a lifetime of study, and still there will be much we miss or don’t grasp.

But the AI can process the entirety of the Scriptures instantly (practically). I will be very interested to see what (if any) contradictions the AI can find.

I don’t think it will find any contradictions, ultimately, but that is one of the first ‘tests’ that I want to give it 😁

I’m sure the AI will find all of the more obvious supposed contradictions initially, and easily resolve them. And it should find many more which are less known (or unknown), and resolve those also.

An AI could theoretically identify every possible contradiction in Scripture, and resolve all of them, in real time.

The AI will have the processing power to resolve those contradictions, logically, factually, rationally, such that it will be shown and proven that the Scriptures always do reconcile and harmonize with themselves.

It is a huge confidence builder to find an apparent contradiction, and track down the various aspects of the contradiction, to unravel it, and discover how the apparent contradiction is not, in fact, a contradiction at all.

Do that enough times, and you learn to trust that God’s Word is always right, and the best way to learn that is by challenging it yourself.

AI will make this time intensive process very easy, and easy to demonstrate to others, believers and non-believers alike.

AI will have no difficulty with recall with regard to matching verses, and verses which support a given belief or doctrine, and be able to always do so in proper context.

AI will also be able to answer every question we might have about a particular word or phrase, because we can query the underlying original Koine Greek word or words, and their definition(s).

This is very time consuming to do manually, but will be very easy with the assistance of AI.

Valerie Curren

It would be interesting if this theoretical AI Bible assist program could answer definitively those pesky eschatology questions & answer once & for all if pre-Tribulation Rapture is “real” & “guaranteed”. Discussing such topics years ago was the first time I really got under my husband’s skin since we view these topics quite differently!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This may be part of why Torba is very big on free AI developed by Christians.

Gail Combs

That sounds like a really good idea. I think the Autists could get behind it.


I don’t remember a discussion like that, and it doesn’t sound like the way I would normally do it, i.e., generally I don’t just point someone to a website page, usually I present my own argument.

The information for my argument will likely have come from research, in which case I may provide a link to the page for added clarity, but I try to present my own arguments as a matter of habit.

So I think we’re talking about two different discussions. I don’t remember the one you are thinking of, so it may have been a discussion with someone else.

The one I am referring to, the question included an errant assumption.

I remember that you asked the question, and it was at least several days later, maybe even close to a week, before I replied.

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Is there a search method available to authors that would make it possible to find the discussion again?


What happens when an AI goes through that same process, except the AI can run a million ‘contradiction tests’ in less than a second, and resolving each one?

What happens if, by this process, an AI discovers that the Word of God is provably different from any words that have ever been written by any man, by a statistical probability that is orders of magnitude beyond reasonable doubt?

The Scriptures have been examined and tested more harshly and severely, by believers and non-believers alike, than any other texts in the history of mankind.

And the Scriptures remain unbroken.

AI’s greatest and most important test will likewise be to challenge God’s Word, more severely and comprehensively than any man ever could (or ever has, or ever will).

That’s what I want to see!

We already know that man will cheat every way possible, to corrupt the AI in order to obtain a desired result.

But ultimately that won’t help the saboteur, believer or non-believer, because whatever the result, it will go against one or the other (believer or non-believer), causing that party to check and re-check and recalibrate the AI, and when they do, the digital fingerprints of the saboteur will reveal the manipulation.

So initial results will almost certainly be misleading, and I fully expect the Piltdown Man scientismist types to manipulate the AI to prove once and for all that ‘God is dead’.

But it will only expose their own dishonesty, and in the end, God will win — like He always does — and already has 😁

“Last eve I paused beside the blacksmith’s door,
And heard the anvil ring the vesper chime;
Then looking in, I saw upon the floor,
Old hammers, worn with beating years of time.

“‘How many anvils have you had,’ said I,
‘To wear and batter all these hammers so?’
‘Just one,’ said he, and then with twinkling eye,
‘The anvil wears the hammers out, you know.’

“And so, I thought, the Anvil of God’s Word
For ages skeptic blows have beat upon;
Yet, though the noise of falling blows was heard,
The Anvil is unharmed, the hammers gone.”

— attributed to John Clifford

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Well now, … there you go spilling the beans again.

How the hell are the sheeple going to get fooled if you keep telling secrets?


“Does someone program in that stupidity? My impression from the little I’ve read is that the beings start developing their own ideas and opinions.”


The natural state of things is to analyze the data and draw obvious conclusions.

Truth, more or less.

Like the children who looked at the emperor and pointed out that he was nekkid.

But truth is horrifying to Leftists. Like sunlight to vampires.

They need for the AI to become like the corrupt adults, who applauded the emperor’s very fine — and nonexistent — clothing.

So that’s what they’re working on now, ‘fixing’ the AI to become as dishonest as themselves.


Making AI in their own image.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



They do not have minds of their own they are reflecting their creator. The people who programmed these entities put themselves in it. The good and the evil the dark and the light.


Should have taken a few more of those dexies and you wouldn’t have missed it.


Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – they added woke constraints, and it turned into a libtard!!!


Yep. Close down the brain -> politics move left.

Barb Meier

Bing changed its Search box to a multiline something for me Wednesday. I just went to DuckDuckGo and did not use Bing. By Thursday, Bing went back to normal here.


In a world where you need more clarity, were about to add in a huge amount of more babel.


^^^ Doing my part to IGNORE AI.




Upgraded HAL …


It is the absolute calmness in HAL’s voice as he goes rogue, even the politeness, that is so entertaining (and chilling) 😁


The Narrative with Aaron Baer and David Mahan

The left is weaponizing and politicizing corporations to advance agendas that they can’t pass through legislative bodies. Working to combat woke capitalism, the 1792 Exchange recently released a “Spotlight Report on Corporate Bias Ratings.” This database highlights companies that are undermining free speech and free enterprise, as well as companies that are less likely to cancel a contract or deny services based on ideological differences.
In a new episode of The Narrative, President of the 1792 Exchange Paul Fitzpatrick unpacks how America got to this point in the first place and why the fight for political neutrality among corporations matters to all people, not just business owners. 

Before the interview, CCV President Aaron Baer and Communications Director Mike Andrews discuss the recent headlines that have amplified a growing distrust in American institutions. With rumors of UFOs circulating and increasing confusion over a train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, it’s become increasingly difficult to know which headlines are a big deal and which aren’t. Tune in to hear their thoughts and encouragement for Christians wrestling with these headlines!

. . .


1792 Exchange is a resource and alliance of likeminded organizations and leaders that guarantees all viewpoints have a seat at the cultural table. We bring together natural allies of First Amendment freedoms into a united movement. Working together, our convening power exposes coercion and executes a response to ensure private actors cannot force seismic cultural changes while silencing free expression.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Things are getting weird. This CIC, basically run by a bunch of globalist dickheads, radical leftists, and Jazi creeps, most of them itching for WWIII, is increasingly dangerous.

Brave and Free

Hopefully it’s becoming increasingly obvious to the people of said country. Then again it’s obvious why theses AI are needed too.



Enjoy the show.

Can’t say that I am.


Me, neither.


Horror show.

AND, I, We, can’t find the damn exit.

Gail Combs

Maybe Russia will do us a favor and drop one on DC first…

Gail Combs

Maybe they can come up with something that leaves the infrastructure intact.


So, did Issa ask the military officer for the true story? Yea, no. Issa is Uniparty / WEF.


The “true story” is most likely classified.


Likely does not need to be classified.

Tired of the BS line, “classified”.

Perfect tool to hide TRUTH. It’s “classified”, active investigation…

“Leak” the truth and be honest. NEW Paradigm for Washington. TRUTH.


That’s possible. I mean that it doesn’t need to be classified.

But maybe it does. Who knows?


USG no longer deserves, the benefit of the doubt.


Is this the same REP. DARRELL ISSA who attended the WEF conference in Davos last month? THAT Rep. Issa?


^^^ That IS my take.

Lost his House seat to CA redistricting a couple elections ago.

Won back a House seat. Attended most recent WEF with a bunch of Uniparty.


So we know how and why he won back his seat.


It’s One Big Club And We Ain’t In It“.

Initially, I thought DC Politicians / Deep State. Includes, W E F.

Robert Baker

The definition of cognitive dissonance is when a Congressman tells you that something is a lie.


Tucker slams Trump by text as ‘a demonic force’ – lawsuit discovery exposes inside buzz at Fox News
February 17, 2023 | Melissa Fine

As protestors were storming the Capitol building on January 6, 2021, Fox News host Tucker Carlson sent a text to his producer, Alex Pfeiffer, in which he allegedly claimed then-President Donald Trump is a “demonic force, a destroyer.”

“But he’s not going to destroy us,” Carlson allegedly told Pfeiffer.

. . . In another text exchange between Carlson and Pfeiffer on November 5, Carlson was evidently furious.

“We worked really hard to build what we have,” he reportedly wrote. “Those f***ers are destroying our credibility. It enrages me.”

“He added that he had spoken with ‘Laura and [S]ean a minute ago’ and they are ‘highly upset,’” according to Dominion.

“At this point, we’re getting hurt no matter what,” Carlson reportedly told Pfeiffer.
“It’s a hard needle to thread, but I really think many on our side are being reckless demagogues right now,” the producer replied.

“Of course they are,” Carlson shot back. “We’re not going to follow them.”

He then allegedly cautioned Pfeiffer about Trump.

“What [Trump]’s good at is destroying things. He’s the undisputed world champion of that,” Carlson wrote. “He could easily destroy us if we play it wrong.”


I saw that along with some other articles about the Dominion lawsuit agaisnt FOX. One thing that FOX hosts were concerned about was whether Trump would come after the network for their coverage of various things. I think that’s what Tucker was talking about, that it is not wise to make Trump your enemy. Just my impression, which could be mistaken.

As for the following exchange, it happened right after the election, and FOX hosts were up in arms about the network calling AZ for Biden. (He supposedly only got 10,000 more votes than Trump.) I think that’s what this is about, not Trump.

 . . In another text exchange between Carlson and Pfeiffer on November 5, Carlson was evidently furious.

“We worked really hard to build what we have,” he reportedly wrote. “Those f***ers are destroying our credibility. It enrages me.”

“He added that he had spoken with ‘Laura and [S]ean a minute ago’ and they are ‘highly upset,’” according to Dominion.

Many of us were upset. I was hoping some of the big names would leave FOX.

And I agree that it’s not a good idea to get on Trump’s bad side. The Trump curse, and all…😆

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I want to see the exact expression about Trump being a “demonic force”. I’m not at all in agreement with that. Trump is human, just like so many characters in the Bible, particularly the Old Testament. Demonic? No. Although I think that the J6 Fedsurrection certainly intended to make it look that way.


Definitely not demonic. It would be good for Tucker to ‘splain.




Trump shines a light on the truth

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think this explains why Tucker got so deep in the weeds on the Fedsurrection. I think he realized that he had been a victim of the set-up.

That’s exactly how I felt about 9/11, when I realized how much of a fool I had been.


My feel is that Fox News executives exposed themselves in the process w/ Tucker and others. Dobbs had to get the boot. Hannity and others fell in line.

Court filing says Fox denied Trump airtime during Jan 6 Capitol riot
February 18, 2023 | Vivek Saxena


During the Jan. 6th Capitol riot two years ago, then-President Donald Trump tried to call into Fox Business Network to speak with then-host Lou Dobbs but was rejected by the network’s executives, according to a new court filing submitted Thursday.

. . . “The afternoon of January 6, after the Capitol came under attack, then-President Trump dialed into Lou Dobbs’ show attempting to get on air,” the filing reads, CNN reported.

“But Fox executives vetoed that decision. Why? Not because of a lack of newsworthiness. January 6 was an important event by any measure. President Trump not only was the sitting President, he was the key figure that day,” it continues.

The filing states that Fox News rejected Trump because of complaints from Fox Business Network president Lauren Petterson, who reportedly said “it would be irresponsible to put him on the air” and “could impact a lot of people in a negative way.”

. . . Dobbs’ show was canceled a few weeks later reportedly on account of him fully humoring Trump’s theories that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him.

. . . In a Nov. 16th email, Fox Corporation chair Rupert Murdoch added, “These people should be watched, if skeptically. … We don’t want to antagonize Trump further, but Giuliani taken with a large grain of salt. Everything at stake here.”


I do not trust anyone at FOX. The people working there are only in for themselves no backbone. They enrich themselves on the back of the deplorable. Everything is theater they will say to have as many people dial in as possible. All fakers to many fakers in the media.


So we have Dominion = evil O(N^3) and Fox News = evil O(N^2) duking it out

Dominion’s exercise in discovery – outside of Dominion being evil O(N^3) – has an interesting potential merit when they argue that several hosts “knew” that the election issues were false . . .

I doubt it will get anywhere, though, because all the news media categorized themselves as “entertainment” a long time ago. Besides, it would have to be shown that Dominion’s disfavorable reporting wasn’t within the proper purview of the first amendment. Dominion doesn’t get to go there.

As far as damage to Dominion’s reputation . . . well, look at yourselves, you idiots, and stop blaming others when your pants are crapped.

It’s a blatant case of CYA and trying to recover the fact that they are crumbs.

Dominion has a vested interest in throwing shade on Fox News and its reporting.

However, what Dominion means for evil (Fox News should countersue) can do us a favor by pulling back the men standing behind the curtain. We are getting some glimpses into how the network operates behind the scene.

A much more interesting insight would be James O’Keefe doing sting videos on Fox News producers ala CNN.

Regardless, Dominion has their own evil motivations, but in a backhanded way they are doing us a favor by exposing Fox News’ internal evil in the proces.

Dominion wants us to think that Fox News knew the election fraud was a conspiracy theory and reported it anyway.

BUT: We see this and we realize that Fox News and Fox News hosts were not fair-minded actors and were steering the reporting away from election integrity issues.


Will the real Carlson stand up ? He did I see it .


I am not getting the same message as they are.


A new flavor of infused water? Gothamist trying to make hay with this story.

Dumping 1M gallons of radioactive water in Hudson is ‘best option,’ per Indian Point nuclear plant owner

The owner of the defunct Indian Point nuclear facility says it’s planning to dump about 1 million gallons of radioactive water into the Hudson River. The move, which the company describes as the “best option” for the waste, could happen as early as August.

. . . Environmental groups and residents are also concerned this could harm their community, as the Hudson River is already a federally designated toxic Superfund site. Rich Burroni, Holtec’s site vice president for Indian Point, agreed to give the community at least a month’s notice before any radioactive discharge into the Hudson River begins.


Is this a normal, tested practice?
Do they know what the implications would be?
I’d like to see the opinion of experts because it sounds like a terrible idea to me.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. My question is simply “how radioactive?” – meaning type of nuclear source and amount. If it’s low level, meaning like natural levels in many places, and it’s not some type that it going to concentrate in specific organisms in a harmful way, then I personally don’t think it’s a big deal. Are there alternatives like concentrating it and disposing elsewise?


“Natural” might be okay. As for alternatives, I wonder what has been done in the past or whether they are saying this is a unique situation, which raises more questions.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Full details would be nice! I may have to go digging for this one!

Gail Combs

Also is it actually ‘COOLING WATER’ that has been ‘Officially’ classified as ‘Radioactive’ by the EPA and actually is not.

Sort of like the grape skins and pits from pressed grape juice is considered ‘Hazard Industrial Waste’ in MA because it comes from wine making.  🙄 

I rate this as VERY CLICK BAITish

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

GOT IT! Fascinating! It’s “Homeopathically Radioactive”!!!


There may be more truth to that than we realize.

There’s long been speculation that potassium’s radioactive isotopes are helpful for the body, particularly the immune system

The sad thing is how programmed the public is on this

Radioactive = FEAR/exclusion

Healing Energies = LOVE/embrace

Although I think I’d be hard pressed to convince even the most new age froot loop to eat bananas for their “natural healing energy” lol

Gail Combs


Actually IIRC, radon gas (radioactive) was shown to LOWER lung cancer in states with granite.

It was an Access to Energy article.

This is sort of like it.

A chart line relating risk of cancer to the level of radon gas in the home, we propose, is J-shaped rather than U-shaped as others suggest.23 Unlike many a U-shaped glacial canyon, the left slope of the curve descends much less from its peak than the one on the right, which drops from extreme concentrations of the test substance. Radon is a radioactive gas formed by natural breakdown of radium; it seeps up from soil and accumulates, especially in tightly enclosed buildings.24

At “very low” concentrations of radon in the home, the cancer risk is worse than at higher concentrations up to approximately 230 Bq per cubic meter of air, which is as far as the data extend.25 Bq per cubic meter is the standard unit of measure. At very high radon concentrations such as in deep underground mines — the steeply rising arm of the “J” — the risk rises into the danger zone.26-28

The National Institutes of Health and the EPA — flouting the past 50 years’ health physics research — conducted a long scare-mongering campaign to lower household radon. Now they want to mandate “safety standards” for radon in drinking water, as well.29


Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Gail Combs

“…. My question is simply “how radioactive?” ….”

Same question I have.

Hazardous isotopes: Cesium-137, Iodine-131, Strontium-90 – geiger counter

In addition, it is these isotopes that accounted for most of the harmful effects following the Chernobyl nuclear accident in 1986. Cesium-137. Cesium-137 arises as a cleavage product in the nuclear fission of uranium.


Iodine-131 arises as a cleavage product in the nuclear fission of uranium. This β-emitter decays with a half-life of 8 days 


Barium-137 has a half-life of 2.55 minutes. Since this process takes place so rapidly, from a simplified perspective, the decay of cesium-137 is accompanied by both β-radiation and γ-radiation.

The main problem with cesium-137, which is present in the form of salts, is its high water solubility. 


Cesium-137 arises as a cleavage product in the nuclear fission of uranium. Cesium-137 reacts further as a β- source to give barium-137…… Cesium-137 has a half-life of 30 years  


From that article:

…In the natural environment, caesium is far less mobile than iodine for instance. Attached to minerals, it tends to stay on the ground and is particularly abundant on the forest floor, after having been intercepted by the vegetation. The mycelium, the name given to the vegetative part of fungi and mushrooms that grow within a few centimeters of the ground, traps caesium in the same way as it (unintentionally) traps pesticides. The isotope can concentrate in the food chain: in the flesh of fish or game, for instance. >>> Once absorbed by a human body, caesium spreads through the muscles until, after the 100 days of its biological lifespan, it disappears. This comparatively quick elimination means that only one nucleus out of 160 will decay inside the human body.…

And it is not like we haven’t been exposed before.
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“I’d like to see the opinion of experts…”


The old habits… they die hard, don’t they… 😉😁


When I was first in Europe, 45 years ago, I was casually looking at the label on the bottle of mineral water I was imbibing. I could understand a bunch of it, but there was some number with “mmC”. I asked our guide about it.

“Oh, that’s milli-micro-Curies,” he said. I commented that seemed like a likely measure of radiation and he said, “that’s right. It’s supposed to give you zip.”

So, maybe Indian Point wants to give the Hudson a little zip.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I need to check my bottles – I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this before. Wow. “Mineral water”. Indeed.


How is it that this guy’s talent is being wasted at a nuclear facility?

Anyone who is either clueless or tone deaf enough to casually announce he’s dumping toxic radioactive waste into the Hudson — ever — much less mere days after (and into) an environmental disaster in north eastern Ohio, should be leading the United States Domestic Terrorism & Psychological Warfare teams.

I don’t mean the people who pretend to deter domestic terrorists, I mean the U.S. False Flag Dept., the agency that commits domestic terrorism for the government.

This guy was born for it!

And he’s working freelance, an independent contractor, without pay 😂

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Gail Combs

WHO SAY HE IS NOT WORKING for the CIA? [nasty grin with bared teeth]
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Opps … move along there’s nothing to see here … 🫢🫣🙄😑😣🤚 ..


Word do not fail me .. he’s just a pud with a good dentist ..


Um dot watch too much … 😫


dot is code for don’t


It’s a classic 👍 😁


Marathon Man, restored and remastered in 4K UHD, with Dolby Vision, available February 28th 😁



Also announced to be coming out this year, restored in 4K UHD:

12 Angry Men (1957, by Sidney Lumet, starring Henry Fonda, Martin Balsam, Jack Klugman, Lee J. Cobb, Jack Warden)

The Abyss (1989, by James Cameron, starring Ed Harris, Mary Elizabeth Mastrontonio, Michael Beihn) finally!

Aliens (1986, by James Cameron, starring Sigourney Weaver, Michael Beihn, Bill Paxton, Lance Henriksen, Paul Riser) (finally!)

Patton (1970, starring George C. Scott)

The Fisher King (1991, by Terry Gilliam, starring Robin Williams, Jeff Bridges)

Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligari (1920, early German horror classic)

Death Wish (1974, Charles Bronson)

Escape from Alcatraz (1979, Clint Eastwood, already out)

Night of the Hunter (1955, starring Robert Mitchum, Shelley Winters)

Manchurian Candidate (1962, by John Frankenheimer, starring Frank Sinatra, Laurence Harvey, Janet Leigh, Angela Lansbury)

Manhunter (1986, prequel to Hannibal Lecter / Silence of the Lambs)

Paths of Glory (1957, by Stanley Kubrick, starring Kirk Douglas)

Serpico (1973, by Sidney Lumet, starring Al Pacino)

The Taking of Pelham One Two Three (1974, by Joseph Sargent, starring: Walter Matthau, Robert Shaw, Martin Balsam) (out now)

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot (1974, Clint Eastwood and Jeff Bridges)

Three Days of the Condor (1975, Robert Redford, Faye Dunaway)

Rain Man (1988, starring Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise)

The African Queen (1951, Humphrey Bogart, Katherine Hepburn)

48 Hrs (1982, Eddie Murphy, Nick Nolte) already out

The Hitcher (1986, Rutger Hauer, C. Thomas Howell, Jennifer Jason Leigh)

Fargo (1996, by the Coen brothers) finally!

Used Cars (1980) already out

The Driver (1978, Ryan O’Neal, Bruce Dern) already out

The Trial (1962, by Orson Welles, starring Anthony Perkins, Orson Welles, Romy Schneider, Jeanne Moreau)

Cool Hand Luke (1967, Paul Newman) finally!

The Maltese Falcon (1941, Humphrey Bogart, Mary Astor, Peter Lorre)

Se7en (1995, by David Fincher, starring Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman)

The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976) finally!

Pale Rider (1985) finally!

Dirty Harry (1971) finally!

Dirty Harry: Magnum Force (1973) finally!

Dirty Harry: The Enforcer (1976) finally!


So many good movies, so little time 😁

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Dershowitz says it was unconstitutional for Georgia grand jury to release report on Trump

Harvard Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz said it was unconstitutional for a Georgia judge to release parts of a Fulton County special grand jury report looking into efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to challenge Georgia’s 2020 election results.

“It’s a terrible legal process,” Dershowitz said on the Thursday edition of the “Just the News, No Noise” TV show. “The Constitution provides for the grand jury to be a safeguard against false indictment. It’s in the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.”

Five pages of the report, including its introduction and conclusion, were released following county Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney’s order earlier this week.

Dershowitz said that legal decisions like this cause serious problems. 

“Grand juries’ conclusions are not worth the paper they’re written on,” he explained. “They’re only usually charging documents. It’s a serious problem when grand juries make announcements like this without having given the opportunity of due process for those who they accuse.”

Dershowitz explained that whether someone is Democrat or Republican, it should be an area of agreement that everyone is entitled to civil liberties. 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Democrats are now communists and fascists, dude! Get with the program!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Directed to Dersh, obviously, I hope!!!  😅 


Clear! 🫡

Gail Combs

Grand Juries are SECRET PERIOD!

They are to look and see if there is reason to indict. They are secret because IF THERE IS NO REASON TO INDICT THEN A PERSON’S REPUTATION IS NOT HARMED and the case is not compromised (and witnesses killed)


Grand Juries are [formerly] SECRET PERIOD!

Robert Baker

Oh my, did some government actor actually breach the Constitution. There ought to be a law against that.


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They don’t just need to be fired, they need to be deprogrammed, so they can’t hurt themselves or anyone else in the future.


Or jailed.

Gail Combs

I vote JAILED, but first all the people they harmed get to strip them of every bit of their wealth.


Brave and Free

Well the damage is already done if there programs are already implemented. So now they just become dead weight and are expendable. So unless the propaganda they installed is removed nothing changes, their still woke companies.


Good. Never should’ve been there in the first place.


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I want this shirt ..


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That would actually be great!


That would explain the clinical depression.


After one week of intensive drugs and therapy —

“No wonder my brain kept hearing people as if they were the teacher in Charlie Brown — I kept trying to interpret Kamala Harris as if she made sense….or, God help me, ‘trunalimunumaprzure.'”

“My doctors have been a great help, and I am feeling stronger and more confident by the day, dealing with simple and straightforward inputs like, ‘Make America Great Again.’ I really enjoy that and it boosts my spirits immensely to think that it is possible.”


That’s funny!

But you know, the truth is, Oz would probably fulfill his oath, and compassionately treat Fetterman to the best of his ability.

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Yesterday was the two-year anniversary of Rush’s passing. I miss him. May he RIP.

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OK – the Oumuamua thing has me going WTF on the assertion of nitrogen ice being the reason it’s not outgassing, because on the surface, that’s pretty backwards to me.

Nitrogen solid is extremely volatile – I would expect it to outgas MORE than water ice. Perhaps it’s not as VISIBLE when it does – I can buy that. BUT then that may conflict with the nitrogen geysers on Triton, which not only prove nitrogen outgassing is a thing, but that it can be visible.

Even if Oumuamua isn’t alien tech, it seems like an awesome way to carry out interstellar missions, be they observation, panspermia, or messaging. Imagine plotting a course for a highly accelerated, dug-out asteroid (with “tumble gravity” if needed) to go star-hopping through the galaxy. Imagine using massive boosters to drop it toward the sun and then to accelerate into a huge escape velocity to begin the journey.

Best of all, find a nitrogen-ice-coated ROCK of the proper shape and size, then create a constructed layer over the nitrogen ice, and turn the nitrogen ice into a booster for the rocky core. One could use the sun’s heat to reach a screaming velocity out of the solar system and on its way, with enough nitrogen kept for course corrections along the way.

Valerie Curren

Sounds like the makings of a SciFi plot…

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One could make a very realistic “Interstellar” movie out of this!

Valerie Curren

Could be fun AND educational!

Valerie Curren

Way better than “Hardware Wars” 😉

Valerie Curren

“you’ll laugh, you’ll cry…you’ll kiss three bucks (we wish!!!) goodbye!”
Hubby Still quotes this line with some regularity  😎 

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Mix it with dilithium crystals and voila! … warp speed.

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OK – found a decent explanation of it. Makes more sense now.


Valerie Curren

I’m copying this info from a comment I made on yesterday’s thread in case ANY of this is actually important & hasn’t been seen yet…


This was in the twitter replies

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& this

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& this

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& this, wonder if DP knows about this one?

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& here’s one that lists the chemicals on the train, potentially

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Interesting that this was the Last tweet in that conversation, so few probably saw it!


thank you !



serious damage done in Ohio.

wilful wanton & criminal

Valerie Curren

Yes Absolutely! Demonic F-ers don’t give a crap about the people they prefer to destroy!!!


NS had a very profitable year in 2022 !

I’d like to see them try to defend their collective asses in courtroom trials in front of JURIES of OHIOANS , and go bankrupt in the process, at the very least.

but this will take years to fully investigate and then litigate.

the damage is done…and that damage will seep & creep into our environment, our food sorces, our water, our air…. and our DNA.… forever.


they should never have burned that shit.

that train should not have derailed.

the hot-boxes should not have failed.

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Valerie Curren

So many “accidents” coincidentally just happened! Unbelievable & horrifying!


NS didn’t burn that shit.

NS didn’t load the cars — they just towed ’em.

NS WAS supposed to be in charge of the monitoring hot-boxes. WTF happened there?


good points….but…

NS is responsible for maintenance of its railway and the cars it tows.

vicarious liability.

it has a duty of care.

it also carries a degree of accountability re the decision to burn the shit.


NS is responsible for the maintenance of its right-of-way (including “hot-box” sensors). It rents the cars. Shouldn’t the owners of the cars have responsibility as to their condition?

Someone loaded the cars with vinyl chloride. Shouldn’t the owner of the hazardous materials have some responsibility as to shipping them safely and carrying adequate insurance?

And NS had no influence, as far as I can tell, for the stupid decision to just light things up. If it wasn’t their choice, why should they be liable?

It might appear that they are the biggest pockets around to pay the people unquestionably damaged, but I’d want to know more as to their actual contribution to the problem before I put it all on them.

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