Dear MAGA: 20190120 Open Topic

This special Super Blood Red Wolf Moon Open Topic post is dedicated to your thoughts on this day, perhaps the day that will be remembered as the beginning of the eclipse of the Opposition.
I’ll talk a lot about the Super Blood Red Wolf Moon later, in lieu of an editorial, but first, the usual administrivia:

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As always, you can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on. BUT: Keep it civil. Rules much like the Old Treehouse, except of course Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged. A couple of other important things to consider:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/01/01/dear-maga-open-topic-20190101/ contains some general guidelines for things that are really, really not kosher to post here.
And Wheatie’s Rules (as amended by me):

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
  4. No shooting at the nuclear warheads.

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Super Blood Red Wolf Moon?

It’s “Super” because the Moon is an elliptical orbit, sometimes it’s closer to Earth, sometimes farther.  When it’s close during a full moon, it gets called a Super Moon.  (Frankly, I think those are a bit overhyped, but there it is.)
“Blood Red” because what we will have is a lunar eclipse.  During lunar eclipses the Moon is not lit directly (like a full moon is) but gets all of its illumination from sunlight refracted through the Earth’s atmosphere around the sunrise/sunset line (known as the “terminator” but Ahnuld has nothing to do with it).  Red light, of lower energy and frequency but longer wavelength, gets refracted more than blue light, so the Moon gets a lot of red light.
And finally, the full moon in January is traditionally known as the “Wolf Moon” and let’s face it, WolfMoons are pretty cool, and here at the Q Tree House we eagerly await the return of a certain WolfMoon.

How A Lunar Eclipse Works

The following diagram is not even remotely to scale, but it gets the critical things right.  The Sun is bigger than the Earth, and the Earth is bigger than the Moon.
geometry_of_a_lunar_eclipse
Earth orbits the sun in an ellipse in a flat plane.  The moon orbits the earth in another, much smaller ellipse, in a flat plane.  But those two planes are tilted with respect to each other.  So usually, when the moon passes “behind” the earth, as seen from the sun, it looks like it passes above or below the earth.  We, on Earth, get to see a fully illuminated “front side” of the Moon, and we call it a “full moon.”  Or to put it another way, the Moon misses Earth’s shadow completely.  But sometimes it does pass through Earth’s shadow, either grazing it or plowing more deeply through it.  Those are lunar eclipses, and they can be partial or full.
The umbra, in the diagram above, is the full shadow of Earth.  If you’re in the umbra, you can’t see any part of the Sun.  That’s true for anyone standing on Earth at night time–yes, at night you’re in Earth’s shadow, it’s often true for the International Space Station, and sometimes it’s true of the Moon, too–when the Moon is entirely in the umbra, that’s a total lunar eclipse.
The penumbra is the part of space where, if you look towards the Sun, the Earth partially covers it.  If you’re far enough out in space Earth appears smaller than the sun, if your closer, it’s larger but the Sun is partially behind it.  (If you think about it, the Sun, as it rises and sets, is in this situation; your head is in the penumbra at those times.)
OK, so let’s abandon our “God’s eye” view of the situation, and put ourselves back on Earth’s surface, and look down the cone of Earth’s shadow.  It’s normally invisible, unless something crosses through it, and then we’ll see the shadow cast.
lunar_eclipse_contact_diagram
The moon tracks from right to left, through the shadow.
[That might surprise you, but the earth rotates, west to east, faster than the moon moves, and so the earth’s shadow (and the stars, planets, sun and moon) appears to move the opposite way from the rotation.  So we see everything move left to right, east to west, even though the real motion of everything up there is west to east.]
So when there is a total lunar eclipse, the moon first makes contact with the penumbra, at P1.  Then it moves entirely into the penumbra, looking a bit dimmer but not red (it’s still getting some direct sunlight) and eventually touches the umbra at U1.  As it moves into the umbra, it loses direct sunlight and picks up indirect sunlight.  Finally at U2, the entire moon is inside the umbra, and it will look red, brighter closer to the edge of the shadow.  It then reaches the middle of the eclipse, and at U3, the first bit of the moon exits the umbra.  At U4 the moon is entirely out of the umbra, and at P4, it’s completely out of Earth’s shadow.
From the point of view of someone on the moon:  P1:  One person at just the right spot on the moon would see Earth just touching the sun.  U1:  Every place on the moon sees the Earth partially covering the sun; one spot just had the sun completely disappear behind the earth.  U2-U3:  At no place on the moon is the sun even partially visible.  After U3, the sun starts to come out from behind the earth.  U4, parts of the moon start to see the entire sun.  P2:  The entire sunward side of the moon sees the entire sun, Earth is no longer even partially blocking the Sun.

The Particulars for This Eclipse

OK, I’m going to give these times in Mountain Time.  Why?  Because I think just for once people in the Eastern Time Zone should feel our pain.  (Add two hours if you’re ET, e.g., 7:37 becomes 9:37 ET.)
7:37 PM MT:  P1.  The Moon moves partially into the Earth’s Shadow
8:34 PM MT:  U1.  The first parts of the moon move completely into Earth’s shadow, no direct sunlight.  What you’ll see is a definite outline of the Earth’s umbra as the moon moves further in, but part of the Moon will still be brightly lit by the sun, so the weak red refracted light will be completely overwhelmed, the shadow will look black.
9:41 PM MT:  U2.  Now the Moon is entirely in the umbra, the full shadow of Earth.  By now it should look quite red, with the part closest to the edge of the umbra looking brighter.
10:12 PM MT:  Mid Eclipse.  The Moon is farthest away from the edges of the shadow.  For this eclipse (most lunar eclipses, actually), the Moon doesn’t actually cross through the center of Earth’s shadow.  The picture at the top of this post shows the geometry of this eclipse.
Note: Sometimes not a lot of light gets refracted, and the Moon is unusually dark, but blood red is what’s usually seen.  Again, the upper/north side of the Moon should look brighter than the southern/lower side, because it’s nearer to the edge of the shadow and more light refracts onto it.
10:43 PM MT:  U3.  Part of the Moon now exits the umbra, and starts receiving some direct sunlight again, and the red will rapidly disappear.
11:51 PM MT:  U4.  Part of the Moon exits the penumbra and is now getting full sunlight, while the right hand side will still look a bit darker because it’s only getting a partial dose of direct sunlight.
12:48 AM (21st of January) MT:  P2:  The Moon has completely left Earth’s shadow, anyone on the day side of the Moon sees the entire Sun’s disk.
Tying this all together, now:  Here’s a GIF of today’s eclipse.  You’ll see Earth’s shadow and the moon tracking west to east across the night sky, complete with special effects.
January_2019_lunar_eclipse_animation.gif
That’s it!  Pretty much anyone in the lower 48 should be able to see this; it’s not like a solar eclipse where you have to be standing along a specific line on the ground to see totality (that’s because the Moon’s umbra is almost down to a point at Earth’s surface during a solar eclipse).

And remember, it’s a WolfMoon!!!

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May we look back on this day, years from now in a restored American Republic, and find it symbolic that a lunar eclipse marked the Eclipse of the Demoncratic (rule by demons is demoncracy) Party.

MAGA ON!!!

And (I gotta do this, I just can’t help myself):

MOAR SHUTDOWN!!!

MOAR!!! MOAR!!! I’m Still Not SATISFIED!!!

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Gudthots

Awesome Steve!
And our Wolf queued up a special thread for the topic as well.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/01/19/super-blood-wolf-moon-viewing-station

Gudthots

May the Lord bless, guide, protect and grant great wisdom to our brother Wolf.comment image

Gudthots

Coordinate things? You do realize we are communicating on a platform (WP) that isn’t particularly supportive of MAGA or QAnon, on a site built by someone that just said their good byes in case, um, well, we are left on our own, as a tribe of happy companions in a common cause, but likely to heartily disagree on a 100 things? Just feeling blessed that we are still on the field and moving the ball forward at this point my frend. ;- )

TatonkaWoman

Ah, yes. We are in a time and place where reality is built on a foundation of humor.

scott467

“You do realize we are communicating on a platform (WP) that isn’t particularly supportive of MAGA or QAnon, on a site built by someone that just said their good byes in case, um, well, we are left on our own,”
________________
I had no idea… what in the world?
We can’t be losing Wolfmoon!
I checked the other threads to find out, and after skimming several, I see there is something about this in the Deja Woo article, which is long, so I was saving it for later.
If Wolf has some information to drop, and it could be dangerous to himself, why not publish anonymously?
Or he breaks into numbered parts, and we all publish pieces of it separately, with links to the other parts…
There must be lots of ways the information could be published without being able to trace it back to anyone, or conversely, publish it in a way that traces back to everyone — because they can’t target EVERYONE.
Play it like Spartacus.
WWG1WGA!

Tonawanda

I think he did publish such information in that article, though not all.

Aubergine

The feeling I get (could be just me projecting, though), is that Wolf has lived with this stuff for a LONG time, and wants to unburden himself in such a way that he is seen.
There is a tribe in Africa which has a ritual when people meet each other. They stop, look into each other’s eyes for a few seconds, one says “I see you,” and the other says “I am here.” Apparently the movie Avatar used only half of this ritual in it’s script, the “I see you” part. (Lots of stupid propaganda in that movie, but it was visually stunning).
I think we all want to be truly seen.
Wolfmoon, wherever you are, I see you.

singularZoe

I agree, ttt. Steve, I like that you and Wolfie both posted these threads. They are both interesting in different ways.

Gudthots

I like seeing your style for this amazing celestial event and then looking over Wolf’s approach to the same topic. Like stereo vision. Better!

Gudthots

Awe is one of the finer qualities of being human.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m in awe of the brilliance of all these folks here, said the little penguin. 🙂

Marica

Steve!!! It’s a Super Spectacular Double Lunar Blood MAGA Wolf MOON!! we need lotsa posts about this Celestrial event!! I am still not asleep! AUGH!!!

Marica

No kidding!! I gotta a bunch of stuff that waked me up tonight–re: the Covington Catholic kids and SD–Can I hijack your post for a bit? My sister lives 2 blocks from this school!! This is crazy stuff!

Marica

😘

Anonymoushorse

I am able to understand your explanation of the lunar eclipse. but I have never been able to understand whether the moon rotates on it’s axis like the Earth does. If it does, someone somewhere should be able to see the other side of the moon sometime? I can’t wrap my head around this!

pgroup

The moon does rotate once for every completed orbit. So we always see one side, because it is slowly rotating that side to face us. Picture yourself walking across a large room while everybody watched you. They are all turning slowly to continue facing you.

Gudthots

I tend to think of the moons relationship with the earth as one of attraction. And the moon is not a perfect sphere with a uniform mass at all points. Therefore the part of the moon with the highest average mass is going to be the most attracted to the earth. Which means that part of the moon will always be “facing” the earth.
Did I get that right Steve?

bflyjesusgrl

ENCYCLOPEDIA STEVE!! Everyone can use MOAR schoolin, Good Job!! 🤗🤗🤗

Gudthots

Today we sing.

Gudthots

Well, I meant to post this specifically…

Gudthots
Alison

Thank you TTT. This guy is great to follow, and I might have missed this without your help.

bflyjesusgrl

Dear, Donard,
I rike to see you soon. Can we have McDonard’s???
Luv, Kimmy
https://twitter.com/Scavino45/status/1086837782646005761?s=20

Alison

Love your dialogue, Butterfly 😂
In the far right of the photo on the right, I think I see Sec. Pompeo smiling. He always seems so cheerful going about his enormous responsibilities. Except when he gets pissed off and starts breathing fire. I love the way he seems to work so well to advance the President’s agenda.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What am I doing up at this hour?
Oh, yeah watching the moon on the wrong night.
Time for zzzzz.
‘night.

Marica

See ya Tonight!! — And Yeah–We are gonna learn how to survive on 4 hours of sleep! Like our POTUS11

wheatietoo

Great work on the thread, Steve!
Excellent. Thanks!
And thank you for all the Info about the Super Blood Wolf Moon and it’s Eclipse!
It’s just amazing that this is happening on the 2 yr Anniversary of Pres Trump’s inauguration.
Such an incredible time to be alive.
Wherever our brother Wolfmoon is…I hope that he is well and staying safe!comment image

wheatietoo

Oh yeah, definitely a good thing. 🙂
Thanks for doing that announcement thread!

Linda

Wheatie, I’ve read that POTUS was born during a blood moon, so this could really be a good omen.

Aubergine

I found a site which says he was born at 10:54 am.

wheatietoo

That is very cool, isn’t it!

Marica

Where did you get that MOST excellent PIC?!!! Thank you wheatie!!!

Sylvia Avery

Love this!

Pat Frederick

cool picture Wheatie!

Linda

Steve, I really appreciate the explanation of what is happening during this Wolf Moon. That’s the clearest explanation I’ve ever seen. Unfortunately, it will be cloudy and pouring down rain here, so I won’t get to see it. 🙁
On another note, Rex just did an article on what the fake news isn’t telling us about what Cohen is really being charged with. And it has to do with his involvement with Manafort and the Podestas in illegal lobbying for Ukraine and a secret $400,000 payment he took. Totally news to me. Here is the article:
https://quodverum.com/2019/01/19/a-des-erate-man-michael-cohen.html

PeteC

Great link, Linda!!! TY!

judyw

Thanks for posting this important link to info most people will find very interesting as we continue to refit puzzle pieces that didn’t quite fit before…👍

Steve in Lewes

Linda, great article by Rex.
I read this morning after visiting one of my go to weekly threads; i.e. Clarice Feldman on American Thinker. She is very pro-PDJT and had the link in her Sunday morning piece.
Many people did not know this about Cohen who was also a Hillary supporter…hmmmmm!

judyw

Steve, I remember seeing that photo in an article some time ago when I was still trying to figure him out. He did a really great job of promoting himself and I should have seen earlier than I did that there was a reason he was not included in the Trump Administration. But you know that’s what I love about POTUS, he seems to have an unending supply of rope he freely dispenses to all who “ask”…. 😊

wheatietoo

Something to bear in mind…
The Islamists put a lot of stock in ‘the moon’…their calendar is tied to the lunar cycles.
Muslims look to the moon for ‘signals’ of when to act.
They consider moon events as portents of things that they, as muslims, must watch for and react to.
So for the next few days…keep an eye out.
See something — Say something.

para59r

Oh don’t start with the moon. My wife has six birthdays. One the day she was gestated. One the day of birth. One the day the birth was reported. Then one more for each of those because of the lunar calendar and those change every year! Ackkk! Terrible me only remembers the one on her ID card 🙂

para59r

Maybe conceived is the right word instead of gestated, doesn’t know how she knows but knows she doesn’t go by what’s on her ID card and I never get any of the other five right even after 39yrs. Has completely given up.

Pat Frederick

well my birthday is close to Valentine’s Day and usually they get lumped together as one occasion so I am very jealous!!

NebraskaFilly

Do we have another Pisces here? My BD is next month as well – full retirement age! Am I officially old now?

Pat Frederick

no…I am an Aquarian…I am an out-there creative kind of person…what’s a Pisces like?

NebraskaFilly

Well, the fish swims in both directions – that should tell you something. Open-minded and logical, while also being very naive and gullible, and I am not the least bit creative. I don’t really subscribe to astrology, altho, years ago, I worked with a physicist who was into that and she did my “chart.” It showed “responsibility” as the main theme of my life which is surprisingly accurate. I take on the responsibility to try to fix things for everyone and get buried under the burden. I don’t do that any more altho I am always trying to help in some way, where I can.

Gudthots

Our greatest strength creates the shadow where our greatest weakness hides. I have found the power of self-knowledge to be a great protection against my shadow weaknesses. I guess Wolf would say I know enough to safely spring the trap from a distance. Your personality is a bright and yet grounding influence here in our Q tree. Great to “know” you!

NebraskaFilly

Thank you so much, T*3 – I do so enjoy everything you post, and so many others here.

rayzorbak

I have 2 birthdays per year 🙂
I was born on the Island of Guam (Navy brat) on August 30th…..
My grandparents passed to me a telegram from my parents dated August 29th…..
It states that I was born TODAY the 30th,
So I guess that I am TWICE as old as I appear to be 🙂

rayzorbak

ps …. my Grandparents were stateside while we were on Guam

Pat Frederick

thank goodness or it might have tipped over with another birth…LOL

rayzorbak

LOL….. according to Hank Stank Johnson right?
Who elects these IDIOTS?

pgroup

Other idiots.

Gudthots

I would consider all elections suspect until we get verifiable voting systems with verified voters.

rayzorbak

3 Keys to get this thing going CORRECTLY:
1) Voter ID Must be implemented
2) Media reform (TRUTH)
3) Abolish/Nationalize the FED

PeteC

Geez, Rayzor, I’m the 31st, 54!!!

rayzorbak

30th will be 57 for me…..
Or….. 114…. not really sure how it works 🙂

PeteC

I’m 1954…LOL!

Pat Frederick

It seems the left (and yes including Muslims in there) are triggered by just about everything–the moon, a hat, a Big Mac, the flag, statues, words, and so on..
I believe they come here because they’re greedy. You can’t make (or steal) the kind of money available here in the US. Yes, they come to conquer–but first they make money–they scam money–they’re greedy.

Gudthots

Another detail that is often not seen is that many are practitioners of dark arts, witchcraft and the like. If you allow someone with that kind of spiritual awareness into your world, be prepared for not only scams, theft, and physical danger. Be prepared to cleanse yourself, your family and your land from spells, curses and the usual junk that comes with it through prayer, fasting, and aligning your behavior more closely with the Ancient of Days, the Judge of all the Earth.

Anonymoushorse

Actually, I believe that the date of Easter each year has something to do with the moon. Just another thing that Mohammed ‘borrowed’ from Christianity.

para59r

Yes, one may easily assume that Muhammad was much impressed with this notion of Christianity and looked closely at good and evil and decided that the anti-Christ was more fitting to rule over his desert brethren and the world and decided to spread that word instead.

pgroup

Not a hard “choice” for him, since it was a near-perfect reflection of his nature.
Pig blood works. Always keep a supply for your water pistol. Never know when you’ll need it.

PeteC

Mohammed had a wife who was a wealthy Jewess, which is where he came into contact with the Jewish Scriptures, before he started inventing his own version of things!

NebraskaFilly

Don’t forget, many Christians also give great credence to these blood moons. Remember the four blood moons in one year – 2014. Pastor John Hagee wrote a book about it, as did Pastor Mark Biltz (“Blood Moons” w/foreword by Joseph Farah) – I have an autographed copy. Another good read is Jonathan Cahn’s “The Mystery of the Shemitah,” as well as Joel Richardson’s “The Islamic Anti-Christ.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_moon_prophecy

singularZoe

Nebraska, I got interested in some of that at first but feel it has been debunked by pastors like Jimmy De Young of Prophecy Today and others.

NebraskaFilly

The four blood moons was what led me to my deep dive into the origins of the Bible. But I have decided I do not believe in, and will not follow, “prophecies.” Mark Taylor is one I tried to watch but very early in the video he claimed ALL of those other “prophets” were illegitimate, whereas only HE is the “real deal.” Pffttt…..get outta here!

Gudthots

Readers of the Hebrew scriptures will understand, from the very first section of the writing, that the moon was given significance –by God– as a time keeper. Or maybe more?

“God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.”
Genesis 1:16

The founder of the religion of Islam spoke with and was informed by both Jewish and Christian teachers. The early Christians were deeply informed by their Jewish teachers. The Mosaic Law does reference feasts associated with moon cycles. The author of the NT letter to the Romans wanted believers to respect the choices of others in respect to days and diet.

Who are you to condemn someone else’s servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lord’s help, they will stand and receive his approval.
In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable.
Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him.
Romans 14:4-6a

Marica

OK Guys.. Steve said I can change subject for few minutes… My Sister –a lurker here (Walmart Bananas should be her name –We LOVE PAT) Lives 2-3 blocks from Covington Catholic! and the big Brewhaha at the March for life with the kids in MAGA hats and the native American Indians. Her Husband is a Town Councilman and has been receiving hate emails! The kids are getting DOXXED and threatened ! They were targeted because of MAGA hats..
Gonna post some tweets below..

Marica

Marica
Marica
Marica

Q tree!! Pray for these kids!! It’s Like the Duke laCrosse team all over again!! I HATE THE MEDIA!
God forgive me…

Cuppa Covfefe

Not just the media – the Satanic left, as well. And Farcebørk and Twaddle, for not not pulling the “sensitive content” from their sties.
Zucky and Dorkey: it works BOTH WAYS. Doxxing is an invasion of privacy, and the level and type of doxxing here is tantamount to an incitement of/to violence. Any losses, damage, or injury to these people whose privacy has been breached is BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!

Aubergine

Not all Native Americans are liberals.comment image

Gudthots

Sorry if this is a repeat. I’m going to be praying for this man to find The Truth.
https://twitter.com/g_easton819/status/1086912487562260481

Curry Worsham

Poor innocent kid.
He was targeted because of his cap.
His life will never be the same.
Many people will always believe Officer Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown with his hands up.
This is totally manufactured like “Hands up don’t shoot”.

Marica

Curry!! It breaks my heart!! This stuff NEEDS TO STOP! fullstop!!

Curry Worsham

This video clearly shows the school mob harassing the four black people before encircling and threatening the Native American … NOT!

Curry Worsham

This man is a liar.
https://youtu.be/Jvbsqk0HOWw
Seen this movie before…
Ferguson protests continue led by Anthony Shahid, local agitator.comment image

andrew1979

i have always since i was a child had a massive amount of respect, admiration, sympathy, and fascination with native americans – translated i am a full on rascist i suppose. it really disturbs ,e to see them npw seemingly being a card carrying supporter of the socialists.
they will get thrown aside after violence and hatred toward them is used and abused ny the socialist whores. and they have no idea. this coumtry needs to get along and love and heal – and the socialist globalistcabal is not selling a plan to that.

Gudthots

The First Nations leaders are often followers of the Son of the Creator and are in fact, praying for us! Asking for cleansing for the land. Healing of the Nations. Restoration of right relationships between the peoples on these lands. May the Lord bless, protect, and grant much favor to these godly men and women!

Curry Worsham

Absolute fabrication contradicted by above video:
Nathan Phillips was ending his AIM song after a day in DC for the Indigenous Peoples Day March. Witnesses at the incident say Phillips was suddenly bombarded by a large group of males wearing “Make America Great Again” hats. Phillips told the Washington Post that he wanted to find a way to get out of the situation, but a young man blocked his way and then the situation continued to intensify.
https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/the-nathan-phillips-incident-a-long-day-of-worldwide-news-and-a-school-apology-w662mpqqe0qTSqpY7t3QDg/

NYGuy54

We need to push back very very hard on this. Anywhere and everywhere. This is war against POTUS that shapes public opinion. Among the most important things we can do politically in the next few days. This is running like wildfire through the left and into the media.
Left alone, this can do damage to the MAGA movement. I urge all you bright people to defend these kids and shoot this lie down.

michaelh

I saw this mess on Gateway Pundit too…
Good news is that word is getting out!
PURE EVIL: Dems and Far Left Media Dox HIGH SCHOOL BOY in MAGA Hat for Standing Silent as Native American Approaches Him and Beats Drum in his Face!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/wow-democrats-and-far-left-media-dox-high-school-boy-for-standing-silent-as-native-american-beats-drum-in-his-face/?omhide=true

michaelh

Empathy without charity or justice is at best worthless, at worst wildly destructive.
Another case where leftist “caring” should be translated “filled with anger and outrage”.

NYGuy54

I’m sorry but the word is not getting out fast enough. This is spreading fast with little rebuttal. Focusing on right wing pubs as an indicator of how the news is spreading is a mistake. This is a major front in the war on POTUS. Go beyond here and fight back. Hard.

Pat Frederick

despicable!!
why is it the left screams and screams about “THE” children when it concerns illegals (unless their parents drag them through the desert and throw them over barriers) but act so shamelessly and ruthlessly when it concerns American children?

Pat Frederick

love you back Marica!!

Marica

Steve– I’m a bit scared for my Sis and her family right now…Am Praying!!!

TatonkaWoman

You’ve got my prayers!

singularZoe

Marica, so sorry. Prayers for you and your family.

Gil

So, that snickers didnt even take the edge off huh? Well…shutdown for you then. Just make sure you supplement with winnamins.

Cuppa Covfefe

Brings back memories:
(= being a console command initiated by Control and “A” keys pressed simultaneously)…
=LIMIT 0,0
(wait a few minutes for the stragglers to log out…).
=LOGOFF
=SHUTDOWN
<>
SHUT
(and all the activity lights go out)(just like in DC 🙂 )

Cuppa Covfefe

Oops, between thouse angle brackets should be:
“and the system sputters the following out on the console”
Sausage-squisher swallowed my “comment” delimiters…sigh…

michaelh

Fake News cries “PEACHES!” oops I mean “Wolf”

michaelh

comment imagecomment imagecomment image
There ya have it…

para59r

If you have time and are inclined Mark Levin totally disassembled and shredded in minute detail the Buzzfeed story in the first thirty minutes of his show and then thirty minutes latter he learns about the Mueller denunciation and goes at it again. Worth listening too. https://omny.fm/shows/mark-levin-audio-rewind/mark-levin-audio-rewind-1-18-19

Marica

I should be able to give you guys an update tomorrow…I am PISSED LIT! Not MOROSE–So don’t Worry Steve!! This Could be my Kiddos 10 years ago!!! We All went to March for Life!! FIGHT! and PRAy!!!

Marica

THanks Steve!! Maybe I have found the secret to MAGA..Sleep only 4 hours a nite!

Marica

Hope it works for a certain very stable Morose me!!😆

michaelh

Dispatches from BlackKnightRides:
RANTINGLY is the patriot replacement for Drudge.
https://rantingly.com

TheseTruths

I had not heard of rantingly. CitizenFreePress is a good one, too. It’s owner thinks Q is nonsense but is a Trump supporter. Every now and then he links to CTH, so I suspect he subscribes to similar views or maybe even follows their lead, but it’s a good site.

michaelh

Yeah I’m just passing the word along.
Whatfinger, LibertyDaily are my favorites. CitizenFreePress is good. ChristianDailyReporter has a different twist that’s overlooked by the others. Drudge was just tiresome.
But honestly, I don’t really use aggregators much anymore. At the end of the day, it’s someone else’s worldview of what’s important.

para59r

True, True, True, ? and True. I use all those and more, not every day. This new one looks quite good. Thing about Drudge is this. This site and the others mentioned aren’t giving what the enemy camp is up to like Drudge does. That’s something your going to ignore at your own peril. That and Drudge’s wider picture on world trends, and his phobia’s which you learn to ignore or gravitate to, depending on your views, aren’t in any of these others.
Way I use Drudge and would this one is something to ponder over rather than something to click on though this one does seem to have more stories that I would click on, I’ll give you that.
This one is clearly partisan to our side. I don’t mind that. But it’s not going to be viewed as non partisan by many as Drudge tends more to be, thus the wider attraction/influence. While Drudge is still in the conservative camp, that’s partly hidden, smartly so and I know many here and else where will swear he is not. Or not any longer so it is diminishing him some.
Anyway, I could go on and on, but this site that I’ve never seen before is definitely going into my favorites.

michaelh

Dispatches from BlackKnightRides: Posted yesterday
MISSILE DEFENSE LEADERSHIP: ALLY and PAY or PERISH.
• We are committed to establishing a missile defense program that can shield every city in the United States.
[SPACE MISSILE DEFENSE to BLANKET the WORLD]
• This past Tuesday, the Iranian regime tested a “space launch vehicle” — which [could lead to a] ballistic missile capability … of reaching the United States. We’re not going to have that happen. Iran is a much different country today than it was two years ago. It’s not the same and it won’t be the same.
[IRAN will be CRUSHED]
• The U.S. will now adjust its posture to also defend against any missile strikes, including cruise and hypersonic missiles. We will always be at the forefront of everything.
[USA will NEVER LAG AGAIN]
• My upcoming budget will invest in a space-based missile defense layer. It’s ultimately going to be a very, very big part of our defense and, obviously, of our offense.
[BEST DEFENSE will be OFFENSE!]
• … we will terminate any missile launches from hostile powers, or even from powers that make a mistake. It won’t happen.
[MISSILE TAUNTING is OVER … TERMINALLY]
• We have some very bad players out there, and we’re a good player but we can be far worse than anybody, if need be.
[USA will EITHER be BEST FRIEND or WORST ENEMY … Pick NOW.]
• I’ve always known — and I’ve watched and I’ve seen — the stronger you are, the less you will need, whatever that strength may be.
[USA to DOMINATE DEFENSE GLOBALLY]
• … we will remove bureaucratic obstacles to dramatically speed up the acquisition and deployment of the new technology.
[USA will LEAD on SPEED-of-DEPLOYMENT for NEW CAPABILITIES]
• … our plan directs the Department of Defense to prioritize the sale of American missile defense and technology to our allies and to our partners.
[ALLIES to BUY AMERICAN MISSILES & FUND TECHNOLOGY R&D]
• For too long, we have been held back by self-imposed limits while foreign competitors grow and they advance more than we have over the years.
[LIMITATION TREATIES are OBSOLETE – CHINA-RUSSIA not VERIFIABLE]
• Part of the reason is we spend so much money on so many other places. Now that’s changing.
[ZERO FOREIGN AID without a RETURN for AMERICA]
• We’re helping [not owning defending]
[ALLIES – NOT AMERICA – will OWN DEFENSE of their NEIGHBORHOODS]
• … we’re able to spend money on technology and new defense, and far beyond defense systems. So those days are history.
[ALLIES will FUND their DEFENSE and COMMIT to RECIPROCAL BILATERAL TRADE DEALS]
• Our strategy is grounded in one overriding objective: to detect and destroy every type of missile attack against any American target, whether before or after launch.
[AMERICA will PREEMPTIVELY TAKE out MISSILE THREATS]

para59r

Good. Jots that down as another reason come hell or high water why Liberals in newest sense of the word can never be allowed to have control of this country again. Like the Patriot Act, they just cannot be allowed control of such powers ever again.

michaelh

Dispatches from BlackKnightRides:
POTUS PENDING SHUT-DOWN LEVERAGE … So-far completely missed:
Deferral of 25% Tariffs on $200 Billion of Imports from China EXPIRES on
… March 1st.
… with China owning many $ BILLIONS of U.S. Treasury obligations.
Debt Ceiling EXPIRES on
… March 1st.
… with NO BUDGET for the 25% of Government Shut Down.
No way in hell that POTUS raises the Debt Ceiling
… without MASSIVE and CONTINUING reductions in the Deficit.
POTUS options to operate below the Debt Ceiling in the meantime:
• As the debt approaches the ceiling, Treasury can stop issuing notes and borrow from its retirement funds, which exclude Social Security and Medicare, by drawing down the $800 billion it keeps at the Federal Reserve bank. [Fed reaction: 😳 … Quantitative Tightening ENDS.]
• Beginning March 1st, the Debt Ceiling is FROZEN at that level, and Treasury CANNOT auction new notes. It must rely on incoming revenue to pay ongoing federal government expenses.
• Treasury then decides which bills to pay and which to delay. Foreign owners would get concerned that they may not get paid. The U.S. debt to China is the largest, followed by that of Japan.
POTUS then drops the HAMMER on DEFICITS:
• Spending stops on all non-essential services, projects and programs [Democrat Pork].
• The Federal Reduction in Force kicks in to eliminate Federal Workers [Obstructionists and Non-Producers] and Senior Executive Service [Deep State] members that were proven UNNECESSARY during the 10-weeks and continuing Shut Down.
• POTUS triggers the 5%-plus Departmental Cost Reductions identified under the 2018 EO.
• POTUS implements the Federal Government Restructuring Plan developed by OMB Director Mick Mulvaney per 2018 EO.
https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-debt-ceiling-why-it-matters-past-crises-3305868

michaelh

Reposting from the MOAR SHUTDOWN thread, with updates:
The government shutdown is a brilliant move.
An aspect that hasn’t been explored enough is that by staging the narrative even BEFORE the D’s took the house…
…TRUMP has COMPLETELY controlled the narrative!!!
The D’s plan was to sweep in the House and start beating the drums for the PEACHES!
Before they even got a chance, Trump had tee’d up the WALL.
The strategy is multi-faceted brilliance:
– The WALL is something the D’s are intransigent on, but wins with America
– They are forced to choose between WALL or SHUTDOWN!
– The RIF strategy is now fully at play!
– The win-win of Congress or declare National Emergency is undeniable!
– OVERLOOKED: Trump has single-handed sucked almost ALL the wind (HOT AIR) out of the D’s PEACH narrative!
– No one is talking about PEACH! They’re only talking about SHUTDOWN! Even CNN has a SHUTDOWN CLOCK on their screen – but not a PEACH countdown!!!
– If I’m reading it right the polls are showing that people are “blaming” the shutdown on POTUS!
– He said he would own it!
– The polling questions are skewed – it doesn’t say whether they are “blaming” him or whether the people are supporting him!
– Trump has FAR MORE SUPPORT for the shutdown than the polls can admit! So they have to frame it as “blame”!
– Trump should be getting CREDIT for the shutdown, and CREDIT for his leadership.
– People are CREDITING Trump for taking a stand but the polling questions are framed to avoid showing it.
– What Trump is doing is called LEADERSHIP. That’s why the D’s hate it!
Independents are shifting AWAY from Pelosi:
https://twitter.com/smittygrrl/status/1086746456659243008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1086746456659243008&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwqth.wordpress.com%2F2019%2F01%2F19%2Fi-warned-you-dont-allow-them-to-gaslight-you-our-president-didnt-give-anything-away-other-than-3-years%2F
PROOF that Trump totally owns the media narrative!
– No one cares about PEACHES!
– Dems are too busy fending off Trump they can’t talk about Peaches!
– Even Mueller burst their bubble on peaches!
– Dems are going to be peach cobbler very soon!
– On top of this, TRUMP EPICALLY smacked down Nancy on SOTU in a huge, hilarious embarrassment!
– While simultaneously EXPOSING her traitorous actions to the American public!
– And her duplicity on legislative priorities!
– And the Queen of the House was forced to fly COMMERCIAL from DCA! Oh the humanity!
Having flown from DCA many times, I can assure you that this was torment for Nancy! Even if she had a police escort to get through the traffic jam. DCA has at least 2 more years of road construction in the works before the traffic problems are alleviated!
The amount of epic WINNING here is so great that I can’t stand it!!!
WE’RE WINNING SO MUCH I CAN’T LAUGH ANY MORE!!!
I DON’T KNOW IF I CAN TAKE ANYMORE!!!

para59r

The bad news story here is a vast amount of people can’t even tell you who the Speaker of the House is and this low information type is a product of design. I remember a time not long ago that Liberals (not talking Dems) never made up more than 16 to 20% of the population by most polls even into the late 90’s early 2000’s. Suddenly with the advent of the internet, years of freebies, poor education (after spending more money than ever on it and not teaching a damn thing) and defining deviancy down they’ve been able to grow their slave state mentality quite quickly and now everyone seems blase blase about Socialism and Communism.
So don’t relax 🙂
Personally I’m beginning to think business should step in and tie promotion and wages to taking short little modulized citizenship classes before they end up giving all their profits over to the State.
I know, too simplistic but there seems to be a vast difference in the things we know and the things even collage level students of today seem to know.
Wish we would try.
Speaking of wish we would try, if these people had tried, they might not be on the verge of being conquered.
2008 from Sweden

para59r

Oh dirty trick. That’s not the code I copied. Interesting but not. The Swedish government actually deceptively sanctions this woman often and I believe secretly blame her for the 2011 Norway attacks, were two sequential lone wolf terrorist attacks by Anders Behring Breivik against the government, the civilian population, and a Workers’ Youth League summer camp. 77 people were killed mass murder in because of THIS song:

.

para59r

Oh another btw on the song “Invisible” if you do watch and get to the very end of the song, its not the end. She throws her self against the wall. That has been cut out. You can no longer find a version of that, but it was there when I first saw it.

michaelh

Education is broken. What people don’t realize is that public education is broken by design. Created by Unitarians to implement the Prussian model and control education outcomes.
Business requiring civics knowledge is an interesting idea but would probably be struck down in court.
I advocate for discipleship or mentoring. An intentional, relational, and continuous effort to make a positive impact on another person’s life is the best solution facing these problems.

Gudthots

John Taylor Gatto’s book, Dumbing Us Down, is a must read for anyone that cares about the children of our Nation.

para59r

Oh, as a btw in that accidental song that I copied the share code from and got the first song instead. If you do happen to watch it, the record mangers she rails against, in my conspiracy laden mind represent the Swedish Gov and not any record mangers. She has been reduced to taking subtle digs at her antagonists as the way artists often do.

thetinfoilhatsociety

After 30 days of the shut down Trump can begin RIF. And I really hope he begins doing just exactly that. Miller is a fantastic resource having just audited Warren’s boondoggle.

michaelh

Prayers and Prayer Requests:
Please post any prayer requests as replies to this post! Thank you.
Prayer for WolfMoon, for safety in travels and special protection in his journey.
Prayer for Sundance, a man under a great deal of spiritual warfare. Pray for special protection for him, and prayer that God will send angels to fight on his behalf against the spiritual forces of darkness that seek to prey upon his mind. Pray that he sets aside pride and rediscovers his true north.
Prayer for Deplorable Patriot, that God will drop a guy in her lap to marry. Preferably a manly, goofy, hilarious manly man of a man.
Prayer for our POTUS, for his protection in this time, that he will be wise to the schemes and traps set against him, and that they traps his enemies set for him will continue to fall back on them. Pray that POTUS will remain tireless and relentless in pursuit of his goals.
Prayer for the strength and protection of all those in WQTH whom God brought here for His unique purposes in his sovereign plan. It is in God’s plan we trust. We trust His plan foremost.

Sylvia Avery

Let Thy will be done. In Jesus’ name, Amen.

bflyjesusgrl

Amen.

michaelh

Prayer for the Covington Catholic High School family:
Prayer for the young students who are being unfairly doxxed:
* That they will find new strength in God and come through this trial blameless
* That the attempts to doxx them and humiliate them will backfire spectacularly
* That the evil perpetrators will be publicly exposed and their motives laid bare, and that all their deeds and tactics that they do in darkness will be exposed to the daylight for all to see
* That all of this unfair negative attention and pressure on colleges and other institutions will have no impact on the students
* That any colleges that deny admission based on the actions of 3rd parties will find themselves in the middle of their own public relations problem over favoritism in the admissions process
* That the students will see a denial properly as a clear sign of an institution hostile to their own students and will recognize that they barely escaped a potentially disastrous college experience
Prayer for the Covington Catholic school administration and leadership:
* That they will RESIST the temptation and goading to make public statements, and will keep their comments and public statements to the absolute minimum
* That they will instead seek the best interest of their students, protect and defend them from public attack.
* That they will prioritize the needs of their students above the institutional reputation, rather than the other way around (as many institutions do, circling the wagons to defend the school while leaving students out to dry)
* Provide wise counsel to the administration: The board members, the legal team, the parents and boosters, and the public relation advisers.
* That they will resist attempts at lawfare, but that God will provide creative and unique means of resolving the issues out of court, so that not one case reaches trial
Prayer for the man involved originally in this situation
* That he will feel proper shame over his actions and publicly apologize
* That a miraculous work of reconciliation becomes possible where he and the students from Covington Catholic High School are able to meet again, face to face, peaceably and with respect
* That the students and families will become bright beacons whose love testifies the love of Christ
* That the original narrative will be broken and replaced by God’s love

michaelh

Another suggestion:
As you post breaking news or articles, consider posting a line or two with a prayer for the situation.
If we take spiritual warfare to be a legitimate warfighting domain, then we know that calls to our CENTCOM for reinforcements will be heard!

wheatietoo

RE: The Covington Catholic High story.
I found this video on Gab.
It has some footage on it that is illuminating.
The American Indian group had an Aztlan guy in it who is Anti-White.
That group with the drum-beater is pro-abortion because they want to see white babies killed. (!!)
The Aztlan guy is wearing a red cap, it’s not a MAGA cap.
You can see him start spouting off his anti-white tirade at the 1:42 mark:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npX801xLSFY&w=640&h=360%5D
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Further along in the above video, you can see a different small group…the black “youths” that the MSM are claiming were ‘harassed’…at the 4:58 mark.
These guys are not “youths”.
And they were not ‘harassed’!
These guys are spewing anti-gay rhetoric…and even claim that PTrump is gay, because he dressed in drag that time with Rudy Giuliani.
Heheh.
I found another video that explains what went on:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGiVylLJeJQ&w=640&h=360%5D

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I actually put this link on one of my leftie former co-worker’s Facebook feed. There’s always two sides:
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=59696&fbclid=IwAR1DJFN2MlxcO9yjAYxv9OPEzLzFk589X3w-q_dnsAR3nC5ue-b9mUB-M9k

wheatietoo

That is a good writeup of it. Thanks!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It really ticks me off when stuff like this happens. Another friend whose kids have gone for years wanted to know where the adult chaperones were. Part of the fun and excitement of the March for Life is going on a bus trip without the parents, but there are always chaperones.
SOmething about this is just weird.

NebraskaFilly

I was wondering that myself – why did the adults NOT move in and stop this crap?

wheatietoo

Heheh.
Barbasol — Shave Like a Man video from 2013:
[youtube

Aubergine

Priceless!
That will be the go-to brand in our house now!

wheatietoo

FYI
There is a fairly new outfit called ‘NewsGuard’ that has ties to Silicon Valley…and claims to be a ‘judge’ of what is Fake News.
NewsGuard issues ‘ratings’ and even warns people away from news sources that they claim are Fake News.

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Forbes likes this NewsGuard outfit…but then, Forbes is now owned by the Chinese.
So, go figure.

wheatietoo

More examples.
NewsGuard gives CNN one of their ‘green check marks’…which is like a thumbs up:

.
But then, NewsGuard gives BigLeaguePolitics one of their ‘red exclamation marks’…which is like a thumbs down:

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NewsGuard even goes further…and does their ‘fact-checking’ rating on sources of information:

.
This NewsGuard outfit is as Orwellian as it gets!
This is pure propaganda!
And they are teaming up with colleges to indoctrinate young people:

Emeraldstar

The “credibility” idea, Wheatie, is pure psychological projection.
When one calls someone else’s story “credible”, who’s doing the “believing”? The one, of course. But, in calling the someone else “credible”, one PROJECTS the responsibility for ones believing … onto that someone else!
“Look what you made me do!”
Incredible …

wheatietoo

Yeah, Em-star…this is insidious.
The propaganda-meisters are seeing that people are starting to see through their bullsh-t.
So they create a new ‘fact checker’ outfit to whitewash their lies…in an attempt to restore their credibility.
As part of that effort…they have to blacken and defame, all of the alternative media that is exposing their Lies!
This is pure Orwellian.

andrew1979

we are well past the beginning of the end for the internet as a thought control method. it will soon be massively controlled and censored. all browsers are compromised and complicit. this is not conjexture on my part. i did not read this on some site. this is from close to 35 years of my life being on, in, and all over computers, software, and of course the internet then www as it were.
you might think you have a safe and private browser.
there is fine print, social declarations and promises, for your good of course.
all this is leading to non free roaming internet use as we have today. it is already rife in google when up until 2014 – 2016 timeframe. what we learn as confirmed truth in the 2 years since is boggling.
it is 1984. believe it.

TatonkaWoman

Well, this makes it easier for us! We just figure that the red exclamation marks likely lead to a credible source, and the green checks should be viewed with suspicious cat eyes…if at all. Easy peasy.

michaelh

It is not the “credibility” of the source that determines truth…
But whether the statement corresponds or agrees with reality.
If a credible source says “2 + 2 = 5” they are factually wrong and the statement is untrue.
FALLACY: Appeal to Authority.

Emeraldstar

“the “credibility” of the source”
Again, “sources” don’t have an “ability”.
It is WE who have the ability to believe, or not to believe.
The fallacy is one of misattributed AGENCY. The “Appeal to Authority” fallacy you cite is, indeed, a fallacy … but it’s somewhat of a “deke” in this regard.
“Stories” don’t have any “ability”. Authorities, likewise, don’t have any “ability”. Watch out for the passive voice! It is a tool of rhetoric, of manipulation, of lie. “Hot air”, yes?
“Credibility”? the “ability” TO BE believed? This isn’t a true-blue ability. We, as the receivers of such putative “info”, have the FINAL say on whether we accept it, or not.
The responsibility lies with US. If “they” have convinced us … well, then it is WE who are convinced, rightly or wrongly. I don’t blame the liar for MY errant trust! They lied! I believed! THEY take responsibility for their lie … and *I* take responsibility for my (mistaken) belief! Simple …
Nor does VSGPDJT blame those who have taken advantage of us for doing so … because WE, through fat-and-happy complacent misjudgment, allowed it to occur. Mistakenly trusting our pols, simply because it was convenient at the time.
Things are a bit different, now. Thankfully.

Pat Frederick

why are so many willing to surrender their minds so easily? maybe it takes more time to discover and disseminate information from different sources but it increases brain activity and logical thinking. Oh that’s right, they’d rather binge watch Netflix.

wheatietoo

Terrence weighs in on the Covington story:

michaelh

It’s not a “double standard”, so much as doing whatever is politically expedient at any moment in time.
Their moral outrage is defined by whether their ideology/tribe is winning, not by whether or not they are right or just in *any* objective sense. EMOTION, not LOGIC.
And by their actions, I judge that they feel like they are LOSING – – A LOT 😉
The one thing I can say with certainty: It is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

wheatietoo

Oh boy…a Deep State Coverup of Missing $21 Trillion dollars in the DOD and HUD.
And it happened under the reign of HusseinO!
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3eHf9JJRZs&w=640&h=360%5D

Sylvia Avery

21 trillion dollars???? But…that’s our entire debt, isn’t it? WTH do these people do with our money?

wheatietoo

I know!
Where did it all go?!
HusseinO was robbing us blind.
I hope Mulvaney has got some of his most-trusted people on this.
I read a little blurb a couple of years ago, about a “missing $7 Trillion” that had found it’s way out the back door of the DOD.
Then…nothing.
Crickets.
But now it looks like that was just the tip of the iceberg.

Sylvia Avery

And then there was the missing money from the State Dept that HIllary “lost.” But it was relatively small, like 6 billion, wasn’t it? Not that that’s small. Why that’s even enough to pay for a Wall…
This is the kind of thing that I’m afraid will cause a blood vessel to burst one of these days. It just infuriates me.

wheatietoo

Yep. It pisses me off too, Syl.

PeteC

How about the $2–3 trillion divulged by Rumsfeld the day before 9-11??? The event certainly took that discrepancy out of the news– not to mention, the airplane (?) took the offices that were investigating the missing trillions out of the picture permanently!

NebraskaFilly

This, as well as all the other discrepancies, is what makes me seriously doubt 9/11…..

PeteC

Don’t get Rayzor started on 9/11, NF!!! We will both go on a rant!!! LOL

Pat Frederick

i would adore a thread on 9/11–seeing it through opened eyes so to speak…

Cuppa Covfefe

To paraphrase The Three Stooges in “Malice in the Palace”, about “Starvania”,
the $21 Trillion probably went to IRAN, He-Ran, She-Ran, They-Ran, and Also-Ran… 🙂

Three Stooges Map

Sylvia Avery

Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!

andrew1979

has thos hit the MSM outlets yet? which one got the scoop?

wheatietoo

I doubt they will cover it.

wheatietoo
Cuppa Covfefe

They always say “Beer makes you smart”.
It certainly made Bud Weiser… 🙂

andrew1979

no event is same from the spin of an sjw agenda!
“To a certain extent, lunar eclipses reveal something about Earth, too. “Lunar eclipses … reflect our world,” astronomer and podcaster Pamela Gay told Space.com in an email. “A blood colored moon is created [by] ash from fires and volcanoes, … dust storms and pollution all filtering sunlight as it scatters around our world. A grey eclipse is clear skies.”
i hope the storm ends early so i can see the effects of the pollution!!!!
😉

michaelh

These people despise science while claiming to be champions of it.
Not surprising though, since they believe the false narrative that everything can be explained in terms of power of oppressors. To them, science is nothing but white males working to gain power and mastery over nature and people.
Projection, much?
Their solution is to “diversify” science, break down the “old white male” rules about how science is done (attack the fundamental philosophy of science), and weaponize scientific institutions for political ends.
This will not end well for them. Reality is a remarkably unforgiving teacher.

michaelh

LOL yes I used to have fun arguing with people on this. They’d make the claim that we are “trapped in Western Logic” and try to build from that.
Western is supposedly “EITHER/OR” while Eastern(?) is supposedly “BOTH/AND”.
So I would casually ask, are you saying I should accept EITHER “eastern logic” OR “nothing else”? They didn’t want to argue after that.
They’d also try to argue that “God is beyond logic”. I’d point out that you can’t use logical categories to show that God is not governed by logic. If they were still confused, I’d illustrate with a Venn diagram – a circle with logic, and God on the outside. “That’s it!” Then I’d tear up the Venn diagram – you can’t use a Venn diagram to say that God is beyond logic! Anything justified with “beyond logic” is simply absurd on its face.
Rand is on to something here. The fundamental rules of logic are so deeply embedded in our reality that they cannot be meaningfully denied. Any attempt to do so consistently always leads to Monism.

Emeraldstar

I’ve gotta read Shrugged again.
I read it only once, decades ago, and seemingly without the proper, experienced perspective necessary to interpret it.
My conclusion, back then, was that she was angry, and nasty, and vindictive.
Without, of course, allowing for that take on her perspective to be warranted!
Her opus seems to be quite relevant now. Time to revisit.
Also, btw, your last sentence is tremendous. Did she really posit this, even if tangentially / literarily? I sure missed a lot about her, and her book!
Cheers!

para59r

I read it in the late 70’s while in HS. Then I read reviews on it at the time. The reviews totally were trashing her in so many ways. That might be where I learned not to trust reviews so much because the book was simply great as was Fountain Head.

para59r

They did the same thing with Barbra Tuchman’s historical works. Claimed she was a rank amateur when no one else at the time could bring history so to life like she did. ‘Distant Mirror’, ‘March of Folly, from Troy to Vietnam’ and Proud Tower coming to mind.

Emeraldstar

Thanks, Steve!
I’ll check it out.
At the moment, though, I think she’s over-simplified. (She could have been a clockfag! lol)
The language! Always about the language …

Emeraldstar

I saw this post by an anon on 8chan, and found it “interdasting” …
“I think this shutdown process has something to do with game theory.
There are SO many aspects to this undertaking of Q and Trump. The cabal is tentacled into every aspect of every country.
I too came into this around the same time you did and have tried to read the drops but get caught up in researching them. As a result I appreciate the complexity of the situation, most probably not fully.
SA has been freed from the grasp of the Queen of England. I don’t know exactly how or how she was using them. I just know it happened.
The US is next on Trump/Q’s agenda and one doesn’t just wave a wand and fix it. One has to wade through that stinky old swamp sidestepping all sorts of nasty poopy things.
This is not about Trump fighting the difficult Dems. This is about some elites in opulent castles in Europe and elsewhere trying to break Trump in half so they can continue the wholesale destruction of the now abandoned military arm of the Triumvirate (Vatican/London/DC) being the US, while building up the Asian contingent for exploitation and militarisation where actors of, and for, the cabal are already in place and sowing the ground.
That wholesale abandonment is to bankrupt the US, deplete it’s military which Obama successfully started and which was to be completed by the Bitch and to flood the US with third world South Americans to drain resources even further and to flood the US with the cabals main money spinner (heroin, cocaine, fentanyl). And yes, the Queen of England peddles drugs. […]”

andrew1979

britain has been in that game run by their monarchs for over 400 years probably.
slaves and drugs and draining resources from other places to contol and get wealthy and powerful.
and parliamemtary government to sedate the people.

andrew1979

mo offense intended to any british citizens here – god knows we are all in a race for most government corruption in the US.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Uh, it was the Dutch, wasn’t it, and the Portuguese who were the first to do the slave trade with the Africans, who, incidentally, were happy to sell their enemies.
Although, now that I think about it, the original slaves in the tropics were the Irish.
This is one place where the history books fail us. I visited one of the oldest Plantations on the Mississippi in Louisiana and found out a lot. What we “know” is what the social reformers want us to know. The French and the Spanish slavery was more like Roman bondage. The Americans completely broke with that and were downright cruel. And that came from the northeast before the citizens turned against it.

Tonawanda

Whole Irish villages were stripped of their population and taken as slaves by the worshippers of mohammed.
Blacks owned slaves and Indians owned slaves.
The whole issue is far more complicated than most people know.
But the one simple fact we all can know for certain has immediate relevance.
The DemoKKKrat Party is an existing legal entity. That legal entity has existed unbroken for 150 years.
That legal entity is almost entirely, if not 100% exclusively, responsible for the enslavement and murder of black Americans, as well as the malignant defamation of black Americans over decades of relentless DemoKKKrat propaganda. The only other presently existing legal entity is the American government, which has fought AGAINST the DemoKKKrats to stop their behavior since abolishing slavery.
This legal DemoKKKrat entity has benefited from their intentional behavior, and benefits to this day from the special privilege their behavior has bestowed upon them (political power).

andrew1979

the fact that ks so easy to see for me is that actual racial harmony would desteoy everything they have fought hard to create.
i believed in high school racism would be sensibly put aside as a lesson learned by the time my kids were born but if you constantly pick at the scab on purpose and wratchet up the guilt and rhetoic out of the blue it can never heal.
i hope for the day we can just all generally treat everyone we encounter as we would like to be treated. a lot to ask i know 🙂

michaelh

The Whig party failed to take a moral stand against slavery.
They were beholden to their donor class.
As a result they vanished to history.
The Republican party was formed with the specific intent of fighting against slavery when the Whigs would do nothing.

andrew1979