Dear KMAG: 20240930 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

montero

noun

  • huntsman (style of cap)
  • a round Spanish cap, with flaps at the back or sides, once used by hunters
  • (Spanish) a hunter or brush-beater

Shown in a picture

LINK: https://the1642tailor.com/2014/03/30/montero-caps/

Not shown in this picture

Gotta love classic Hollyweird!


MUSIC!

I obtained the word “montero” randomly, but when I searched on it for music, it came up with a song and album that was foisted on us by the satanists and communists in Hollywood and Nashville, via that horrifyingly creepy “Lil Nas X”. You may remember him.

LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montero_(Call_Me_by_Your_Name)

I am not going to reproduce the blatantly homophilic, pedophilic, and anti-Christian content which is revealed in the Wiki article, but one quickly realizes that this “talent” was created to be pro-pedo (“Lil”), Madonna-style mocking and appropriating (“Nas” and “X”), and generally satanic, in a Travis Scott way.

The fact that “they” would send this guy into country music and even the Super Bowl shows the utter DISDAIN that Hollyweird and their satanic outpost in Nashville actually have for the “country” crowd.

Rather than listen to the toxic music, check out this very positive review of the album. Listen to all the details. The enemy’s moves just spill out one after the other!

The opening face-palm image on the video is rather precious in retrospect.


THE STUFF

This short (1-minute!!!) video is for Gail, and all of us who love the little goats.

The grazing goat problem – SOLVED!

I kinda like listening to this lady, despite the fact that there is also something very annoying about her.

JUST SAYIN’.

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear MAGA: 20240929 Open Topic

This Rejoice & Praise God Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


I had a specific reason to post “Spiritual Darkness” last Sunday. What we see around us that’s being revealed more every day is evil . . . spiritual darkness. Those in this world that do not follow Jesus are stumbling through life, blinded by the darkness without understanding the Light.

As many of you know from personal experience, you can’t reason with most of these woke people, they don’t and can’t understand. We, indeed, are not fighting flesh and blood, but our real enemies are the spiritual forces of evil in the supernatural realms . . . and we probably as yet have not fully grasped the scope or the depths of evil that will be uncovered.


Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12

I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness. John 12:46

For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 4:6

He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, Colossians 1:13

Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. Whoever loves his brother abides in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling. But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes. 1 John 2:9-11

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Ephesians 6:12 ESV

And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” John 3:19-21

And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not understand it. John 1:5 


I am the Light of the world” (John 8:12) a declaration of Jesus, recorded only in John’s gospel, points to His unique divine identity and purpose. In declaring Himself to be the Light of the world, Jesus was claiming that He is the exclusive source of spiritual light. No other source of spiritual truth is available to mankind.

There are two types of light in the world. We can perceive one, or both, or neither! When we are born into this world, we perceive physical light, and by it we learn of our Creator’s handiwork in the things we see. However, although that light is good, there is another Light, a Light so important that the Son of God had to come in order to both declare and impart it to men. John 8:12 records, “When Jesus spoke again to the people, He said, ‘I am the Light of the World. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness but have the light of life.’” The metaphor used by the Lord in this verse speaks of the light of His Truth, the light of His Word, the light of eternal Life. Those who perceive the true Light will never walk in spiritual darkness.

We take a candle into a room to dispel the darkness. Likewise, the Light of Jesus Christ has to be taken into the darkness of sin that engulfs the hearts and lives of those who are not following Him. That’s the condition behind having this Light—that we follow Him. If we do not follow Him, we will not have this light, this truth, this eternal life.

Physical light is necessary for physical life. The earth would certainly change very rapidly if there were no longer any sunlight. A forest full of trees with very thick canopies of foliage high above has very little plant life on the ground except for moss or lichen, which needs little sunlight. Plants will never move away from the light—they are said to be positively phototropic, drawn to the light. In the same way, spiritual light is necessary for spiritual life, and this can be a good test of our standing in Christ. The believer will always tend toward spiritual things; he will always tend toward fellowship, prayer, the Word of God, and so on. The unbeliever always does the opposite (John 1:5; 3:19–20) because light exposes his evil, and he hates the light. Indeed, no man can come into the true spiritual light of Jesus Christ, unless he is enabled (John 6:37).

Following Jesus is the condition of two promises in John 8:12. First, His followers will never walk in darkness, which is a reference to the assurance of salvation we enjoy. As true followers of the Light, we will never follow the ways of sin, never live in a state of continually sinning (1 John 1:5–7). Rather, we repent of our sin in order to stay close to the Light of the world. The second promise is that we will reflect the Light of Life. Just as He came as the Light of the world, He commands us to be “lights,” too. In Matthew 5:14–16 we see believers depicted as the light of the world, reflecting the Light of Christ so that all can see it in us. The Light is evident to others by the good deeds we do in faith and through the power of the Holy Spirit.

The emphasis here is maintaining a credible and obvious witness in the world, a witness that shows us to be faithful, God-honoring, trustworthy, sincere, earnest, and honest in all that we do. Also, we should always be ready to give an account of the hope that we have (1 Peter 3:15), for the gospel Light we have is not to be covered, but made obvious for all to see and benefit from, that they, too, may leave the darkness and come into the Light.
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2024·09·28 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

January 6 Tapes?

Where are the tapes? Anyone, Anyone? Bueller? Johnson??

Paging Speaker Johnson…this is your conscience calling you out on broken promises.

News Flash

Today, it is still the case that Joe Biden didn’t Win.

I realize that to some readers, this might be a shock; surely at some point things must change and Biden will have actually won.

But the past cannot actually be changed.

It will always and forever be the case that Joe Biden didn’t win.

And if you, Leftist Lurker, want to dismiss it as dead white cis-male logic…well, you can call it what you want, but then please just go fuck off. No one here buys that bullshit–logic is logic and facts are facts regardless of skin color–and if you gave it a moment’s rational thought, you wouldn’t either. Of course your worthless education never included being able to actually reason–or detect problems with false reasoning–so I don’t imagine you’ll actually wake up as opposed to being woke.

As Ayn Rand would sometimes point out: Yes, you are free to evade reality. What you cannot do is evade the consequences of evading reality. Or to put it concretely: You can ignore the Mack truck bearing down on you as you play in the middle of the street, you won’t be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring the Mack truck.

And Ayn Rand also pointed out that existence (i.e., the sum total of everything that exists) precedes consciousness–our consciousnesses are a part of existence, not outside of it–therefore reality cannot be a “social construct” as so many of you fucked-up-in-the-head people seem to think.

So much for Leftist douchebag lurkers. For the rest of you, the regular readers and those lurkers who understand such things: I continue to carry the banner once also carried by Wheatie. His Fraudulency didn’t win.

Let’s Go, Brandon!!

His Fraudulency

Joe Biteme, properly styled His Fraudulency, continues to infest the White House, we haven’t heard much from the person who should have been declared the victor, and hopium is still being dispensed even as our military appears to have joined the political establishment in knuckling under to the fraud.

One can hope that all is not as it seems.

I’d love to feast on that crow.

(I’d like to add, I find it entirely plausible, even likely, that His Fraudulency is also His Figureheadedness. (Apparently that wasn’t a word; it got a red underline. Well it is now.) Where I differ with the hopium addicts is on the subject of who is really in charge. It ain’t anyone we like.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

The Asteroids

In 1772 Johan Elert Bode citing Johan Daniel Titius, formulated the Titius-Bode law, more commonly just “Bode’s Law.” They had noted a rather interesting pattern in the distances of the planets from the Sun, when expressed in AUs. Let’s show the ones known as of 1772, plus the Hugh Janus, discovered in 1781.

Mercury0.387
Venus0.723
Earth1.000
Mars1.523
Jupiter5.203
Saturn9.537
Uranus19.191
Distances from the Sun to all planets known as of 1800, in Astronomical Units.

The thing is, there’s a pattern here…sort of, and that’s Bode’s Law. It’s a mathematical progression. Start with 4. Then 4+3. Then 4+(3×2). Then 4+(3×4).

Or slightly more clearly: 4, 4+3×20, 4+3×21, 4+3×22, 4+3×23, etc. It’s not quite a perfect series because there’s no way to get 4+0 by adding 3×2some-power to it. Anyhow, let’s divide these numbers by 10 and compare to the planet distances:

Mercury0.3870.4
Venus0.7230.7
Earth1.0001.0
Mars1.5231.6
???2.8
Jupiter5.2035.2
Saturn9.53710.0
Uranus19.19119.6
Distances from the Sun to all planets known as of 1800, in Astronomical Units, with Bode’s Law.

It’s a decent (but not great) fit! And when Uranus was discovered in 1781, it almost fit too, albeit missing by a bit over 0.4 AUs. This made it seem more and more like this law might actually mean something. But if so, the glaring WTF in the whole thing is the fact that we seem to be missing a planet at 2.8 AU.

(I’ll pause here to point out that we no longer think of this as a law. It was valid to think of it as one back then, since a “law” just says “things behave this way, for whatever reason.” Neptune is in completely the wrong place, plus extrasolar planets don’t even remotely follow anything like this even if you scale for the fact that most of them orbit red dwarfs and do so much closer to them.)

But back then, it certainly looked as if we might have a planet to find, especially after Hugh Janus’s discovery made the notion of undiscovered planets thinkable, and Hugh Janus was even at close to the right distance!

On the other hand, Immanuel Kant, when he wasn’t doing things that would later piss off Ayn Rand, did do some theoretical astronomy and he wondered if perhaps Jupiter’s gravity had created the gap.

Many people (not nearly enough in Ayn Rand’s opinion) paid no attention to Kant, and tried looking.

We didn’t have to wait all that long. Just for a new century.

On January 1, 1801, technically the first day of the 19th century, Giuseppe Piazzi, working at the Palermo Astronomical Observatory in Sicily…[OK, I can’t even see the word “Palermo” without hearing in my head a British voice telling Field Marshal Montgomery that Patton had taken Palermo…to which the response was “Damn!” Thanks to the movie Patton.] Anyhow, Piazzi first sighted an object, and repeated his observations from night to night…and it was moving against the background stars! He was able to tell it was not a comet.

We had our planet, named Ceres after the Roman god of agriculture, in keeping with the classical mythological theme; all other planets were named after Roman gods and goddesses, except for Uranus, which was named after the Greek sky god, father of Saturn/Kronos, who was in turn the father of Jupiter/Zeus. (The Roman name would have been “Caelus.”)

It was even at the right distance, 2.77 AU on average, varying between 2.55 and 2.98 AUs.

[Speaking of Uranus…the metal uranium (discovered 1789, isolated in pure form 1841) was named after Uranus, the metal cerium (discovered 1803, isolated in pure form 1838) was named after Ceres. Unlike uranium, you probably have some cerium in your house; typically the enamel on the inside of a self-cleaning oven is largely cerium oxide, which helps cause hydrocarbons to burn during the cleaning.]

It wasn’t much of a planet; it appeared as no more than a point of light in telescopes, whereas other planets showed a disc. And then, before we could really confirm it, it ended up in conjunction with the Sun…in other words, it was directly behind the Sun as seen from Earth. Carl Friedrich Gauss calculated where it would show up after the conjunction, and on 31 December of that year, it was picked up and tracked.

But then it got crazy. Three more asteroids were discovered over the next three years, Pallas (->palladium), Juno, and Vesta. And then nothing, for decades, when Astraea was found in 1845. Then they started coming in, 15 asteroids had been found by 1851, and 100 by 1868.

All were tiny. Ceres had a respectable size, but even it is much smaller than the Moon. In fact it turns out to be bigger than all of the other asteroids put together. Here’s an illustration of the first ten asteroids’ sizes against the Moon (in gray).

By convention, asteroids are numbered in order of discovery, hence 1 Ceres, 2 Pallas, 3 Juno, 4 Vesta, 5 Astraea, and so on. In the mid 20th century the numbers were still below 2000. Today the number is 1,382,205 (this includes other small bodies in the solar system, though, not just asteroids…but back then we had no inkling of such things). By the way when Pluto got demoted, it was instantly given the next number in the sequence, which back then was 134340.

Vesta, though much smaller than Ceres, is lighter colored, and technically it’s just barely visible to the naked eye…if you’re somewhere out in the middle of the ocean and eat a lot of carrots.

OK so what’s going on here?

At first, we had the notion that perhaps there had been a full-size planet there, but it had blown up or otherwise been destroyed. As it turns out, there’s not nearly enough stuff there. Now most astronomers believe that Jupiter’s gravity probably prevented a planet from forming there…so Kant was right.

With all of the other small bodies discovered more recently, asteroids are now defined as non-cometary bodies in the inner solar system (i.e., inside the orbit of Jupiter). Comets are largely made up of ice…not necessarily water ice…and will present a tail close to the sun. Asteroids, on the other hand generally fall into three categories, C-type or carbonaceous, M-type or metallic (iron-nickel plus other goodies), and S-type or silicaceous (rocks). They can be solid bodies, or in some cases, they’re basically piles of rubble, not even a single body.

Most asteroids are well-behaved, orbiting in the “asteroid belt.” It’s estimated that there are anywhere from 1.1 million to 1.9 million asteroids larger than 1 km there, and countless smaller objects. If you plot their semi-major axes (i.e., average distance from the Sun), the belt ranges from a bit over 2.1 AUs to 3.3 AUs. But there are gaps! Virtually no asteroid has a 2.5 AU orbit, nor one at 2.82 AU; they’re also scarce at a few other distances. Here’s what I mean:

These gaps are called the “Kirkwood” gaps, and the diagram gives a clue as to what causes them. In essence any body that orbits the Sun three times for each time Jupiter orbits once, will get perturbed–its orbit will change size–and will no longer be in that spot. This is a 3:1 resonance, and 5:2, 7:3 and 2:1 resonances also exist, and asteroids can’t be in those resonances for long.

This is not to say that no asteroid will ever be at that distance. If it’s in an elliptical orbit it could spend some time closer in than the gap, then farther out; of course it must cross through the gap.

Oh, and by the way: Forget what you saw in Star Wars or for that matter any of a hundred other space operas. Although there are a lot of asteroids…there is a lot more space. So it’s mostly empty space. Your chances of encountering one if you travel through the belt are miniscule…unless you aim for one. It’s certainly not the game of space dodgeball you see in Star Wars. (We’ve sent probes through the asteroid belt quite a lot.)

Asteroids Not in the Asteroid Belt

Not all asteroids live in the asteroid belt.

We have the Trojan asteroids. The first of these was discovered in the same orbit as Jupiter…but either 60 degrees ahead or behind Jupiter. These are actually stable places to be, according to work by Joseph-Louis Lagrange in 1772. (In general, any system with two large bodies orbiting each other will have stable locations at these locations, forming equilateral triangles between the two bodies and the locations; these are now called L4 (ahead of Jupiter) and L5 (behind Jupiter). Objects placed in orbits here will tend to stay there; even if they drift away, they’ll be pulled back, rather than pushed away, like a marble at the bottom of a bowl.)

As you might have guessed there are L1, L2 and L3 points but they are metastable; if an object starts to drift out of those locations, they will tend to move further away, like a ball set at the top of a hill.

The following diagram shows the Earth and Sun (not Jupiter and the Sun) complete with Earth’s moon; you can just ignore that.

The first such asteroids were named after heroes of the Trojan War, and this became a convention. In fact the ones at the Sun-Jupiter L4 point are named after the Greek side, while L5 denizens are named after people on the Trojan side. (However 624 Hektor (at L4) and 617 Patroclus (at L5) were given their names before the convention was established so they are in the “wrong” groups.)

It’s now estimated that there may be as many asteroids in these Trojan groups as there are in the “main” asteroid belt.

The term Trojan became standard for a body in any planet’s L4 and L5 points, and there are a few of these; in fact there are two in Earth’s L4 point.

But the more immediately–even urgently–interesting asteroids are the ones whose orbits are inside the asteroid belt. There are several groups of these Near Earth Objects…and that name should tell you why we are so concerned with them:

Amors (named after 1221 Amor) have an orbit larger than the Earth, and their minimum distance to the Sun is greater than Earth’s maximum distance to the Sun. As such, they pose no collision hazard with the Earth. Unless, of course, something mucks with their orbit, like a near pass with another body.

Atiras (named after 163693 Atira), their orbits are entirely within the Earth’s orbit. No hazard now, but the same caveat applies.

Apollos (1862 Apollo) and Atens (2062 Aten) are asteroids whose orbits cross that of Earth, in other words their furthest distance from the Sun either exceeds our minimum distance, and their minimum distance exceeds our maximum distance, or both. Apollos have an average distance greater than 1 AU, Atens have an average distance less than 1 AU.

Or there’s this handy-dandy chart you can use.

These are the scary ones. We are very, very aware of the consequences of a collision with a sizeable asteroid. Most life was extinguished by a 10 km asteroid 66 million years ago, and in historic times we’ve had two explode over Russia with megaton force (1908 in Tunguska and 2013 in Chelyabinsk)–and these were small bodies, roughly 50-60 and 18 meters across, respectively. Neither asteroid actually hit the Earth (at least not in one piece), rather they exploded high in our atmosphere when their trajectories grazed it.

50,000 or so years ago we did suffer a direct hit from a 50 meter iron-nickel meteorite, in Arizona. This left a 3900 foot crater you can visit today:

Note that we failed to spot the Chelyabinsk meteor before it hit, though we saw another one that completely missed the Earth not long before that.

We’ve bent considerable effort to trying to locate all Near Earth Objects and we think we’ve spotted the really big ones. But even a 100 or 50 meter object can cause a lot of damage, and no we haven’t spotted even a significant fraction of those.

Goodies

I mentioned earlier that metallic asteroids are made of iron and nickel, as well as other goodies.

This was important in the past, and will be again. Before we learned how to smelt iron around 1300 BCE (a very rough date, the end of the Bronze age), the only source of iron we had was meteorites. In fact, going back to the Trojan war, one of the gifts given to a Greek warrior was a meteorite he could use to make iron armor out of. Priceless! (Especially given that that particular mixture of iron and nickel is in fact much better material than pure iron would be.)

But what are the “other goodies”? We think these iron-nickel meteorites were once in the core of a larger body (not a full planet), which had melted and begun to differentiate, with the iron, nickel, and other heavy metals sinking into the core, leaving the outer layers relatively bereft of these metals. Earth has an iron core due to this very mechanism. We also have relatively little gold, platinum, PGMs, etc in our crust, because of this process. Although rare even in the core, they are less so there than up here.

Iron nickel meteorites do have some variances but are often 1 part per million or more of gold and/or iridium. This would be considered very good ores (especially for iridium which is normally less than a part per billion).

In fact it’s that relative abundance of iridium that was the smoking gun that established that an asteroid hit the Earth at about the time the dinosaurs were wiped out (there are still some holdout paleontologists who insist that most of the job was done by volcanic activity before the meteorite arrived). Sediments deposited at that time show “spikes” in the concentration of iridium.

That’s the past. What about the future?

We are pretty confident that 16 Psyche is a large iron-nickel body. It has been measured at 220 meters in diameter (it’s a bit irregularly shaped).

Its mass is 23 quadrillion (metric) tonnes. Or 23 million billion tonnes. That is a LOT of iron, more than we’ve ever used certainly, and…well, that’s going to be 23 billion tonnes of iridium, 23 billion tonnes of gold…but we can’t readily access it.

Yet.

We are sending a probe, named Psyche, to get a closer look and confirm what we think about it. It launched on 23 October of last year and is expected to arrive in 2029, shortly after the beginning of JD Vance’s first term as President.

Spot Prices.

Kitco Ask. Last week:

Gold $2,622.40
Silver $31.24
Platinum $986.00
Palladium $1090.00
Rhodium $5,075.00
FRNSI* 125.859-
Gold:Silver 83.944-

This week, markets closed as of 3PM MT.

Gold $2,658.90
Silver $31.72
Platinum $1,010.00
Palladium $1,038.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 127.624+
Gold:Silver 83.824+

Gold was as high as 2,670-something or so but then got hammered on Friday. Silver was over $32 even Friday morning, but the usual Friday beat-down occurred. Palladium’s bid price (i.e., the price they offer, not the price they ask) is lower than platinum’s bid price. (Usually when you see news stories about the price of these metals, they work off the bid price. I quote the ask price because you should be buying this stuff up, not selling it.) Silver again seems to be undergoing wider swings than gold, but the gold silver ratio ends up barely moving, somehow.

Gold futures contracts for December delivery apparently breached the $2,700 mark for the first time sometime on Thursday.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Health Friday Open Thread 9.27.2024: Another Scientific Paper Is Under Attack For Telling The Truth About The COVID-19 “Vaccines”

The above image from an old medical-scientific journal is from PeopleImages, via Google Images.

This post is part of Health Friday, a series of offerings related to Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. The discussion is not limited to what is presented today; it is an Open Thread. However, since this presentation is about a COVID-19 “vaccine”, the post is dedicated to the memory of Yours Truly’s cousin Bill, who died “suddenly and unexpectedly” in September 2023.

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The Health Friday post today concerns the impending Retraction of a peer-reviewed and published paper that details long-term COVID-19 “vaccine”-induced injuries in North India. The paper was submitted to Springer for review and publishing on 9 January 2024; it was accepted (it had passed the peer-review process); and it was published on 13 May 2024. Here is a free-access version (to read the entire paper on Springer, one has to either access through an institution, or to pay for a copy): www.qeios.com/read/JK7IBA/pdf, “Long-Term Safety Analysis of the BBV152 Coronavirus Vaccine in Adolescents and Adults: Findings from a 1-Year Prospective Study in North India”, Upinder Kaur, et al., 13 May 2024. The study was conducted at Banaras Hindu University in India. BBV152 is another name for the COVAXIN COVID-19 “vaccine”, developed by Bharat BIotech of India in cooperation with Indian Council on Medical Research (ICMR) – National Institute of Virology. ICMR receives “royalty payments” for each dose of COVAXIN that is administered, as does Bharat Biotech (Sound familiar? — as in, the co-development, co-ownership of patents, and sharing of “royalty payments” between the NIAID and Moderna for the modRNA COVID-19, mRNA-1273?)

For purposes of today’s offering, the trail begins here: https://blog.maryannedemasi.com/p/breaking-journal-pressured-to-retract, 23 September 2024. Dr. Demasi has a PhD in Rheumatology from the University of Adelaide (Australia.)

The Kaur, et al., paper referenced above was published by Springer on 13 May 2024. Almost immediately, the attacks began on the paper, the authors, and the publisher — with articles like this one: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/1-in-3-covaxin-recipients-hit-by-adverse-events-study/articleshow/110187284.cms, “1 in 3 Covaxin recipients hit by adverse events: Study”, 17 May 2024. On 18 May 2024, the ICMR demanded that Springer retract the paper (Yours Truly: nothing like causing panic in a government agency when the truth is published about a “vaccine” that the agency is pushing as “safe and effective,” especially when that agency is also getting “royalty payments” for the use of the “vaccine”, is there?). But, the attack on Springer and the authors didn’t end there. In July 2024, Bharat Biotech filed a lawsuit against Springer and the authors (some of the authors are students), demanding retraction of the paper and the payment of damages to Bharat Biotech of $600,000 US dollars (50 million Indian rupees.) In addition, the lawsuit accused the paper’s authors of defamation against the company, included with a demand for separate damages to be paid to the company for defamation. Despite sworn statements from the authors that no defamation was intended or written into the paper; and, despite the fact that Nitin Joshi, the editor of the Springer journal (Drug Safety) in which the study appeared, was one of the reviewers who approved the study for publishing, it was Joshi who notified the authors on 28 August 2024 that he was going to have the paper retracted. He confirmed this decision in an email to the authors on 17 September. However, as the defamation lawsuit is now in court, the study is still available on the internet.

What is BBV152/COVAXIN? It is an “inactivated whole virion vaccine” (whole virus vaccine) for “active immunization” against COVID-19. It is not an mRNA-based/modRNA-based COVID-19 “vaccine”, although it does use an “ancestral wave strain” of the original Wuhan Hu1 SARS-CoV-2 virus (in other words, a strain from the Wuhan Hu1 virus that occurred before the Beta, Delta, or Omicron strains.) The Package Insert for COVAXIN is here: www.bharatbiotech.com/images/covaxin/covaxin-pack-insert.pdf. Below is an image from the Package Insert:

Per Wikipedia, 363,774,435 persons in India had been “vaccinated” with at least one dose of COVAXIN as of 4 March 2023.

However, the COVAXIN Package Insert does not actually describe how the “vaccine” works (the “Mechanism of Action.”) Yours Truly found something along the lines of the necessary information here: www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/projects/covaxin-bbv152-for-the-treatment-of-covid-19/?cf-view&cf-closed, “COVAXIN (BBV152) for the Treatment of Covid-19, India”, 28 June 2022. Below is a screenshot from this article:

But, COVAXIN has been hailed by the Indian government about being “the first indigenous COVID-19 vaccine in India” (www.bharatbiotech.com/covaxin.html.) Why is ViroVax involved? (More on this later in the post.) Back to the Package Insert for COVAXIN. Below is a screenshot of the ingredients used in this “vaccine”:

Looking further into the ingredients list, starting with the NIV-2020-770 strain of SARS-CoV-2: please refer to this paper: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7825810/, “Safety and immunogenicity of an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, BBV152: a double-blind, randomised Phase 1 trial”, Krishna Mohan Vadrevu, et al., May 2021. It appears that NIV-2020-770 (the “inactivated whole virion”) is part of the Asp614Gly variant chain of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The Asp614Gly variant itself is apparently part of the “ancestral wave” of the original Wuhan Hu1 SARS-CoV-2 virus; and, it is “not as serious” as the Beta or the Delta waves of the virus. Please refer to this article: www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/langlo/PIIS2214-109X(22)00199-1.pdf, Vol.10, July 2022, a Comment “Decoding the next SARS-CoV-2 variant”, by Jeremy Nel and WD Francois Venter. Below is a screenshot of a portion from the Comment:

Thus, BBV152/COVAXIN cannot be considered to be one of the “most recent” types of COVID-19 “vaccines”, as it does not include any elements before the Beta, Delta, or Omicron variants.

The Aluminium Hydroxide Gel in the ingredients (it is an “excipient” [“adjuvant]”): this is also called “Algel-IMDG” and “Alhydroxiqium-II” — in other words, it is a hydrogel. It was invented by ViroVax LLC of Lawrence, Kansas, under the aegis of the EpscoR Idea Foundation (part of the National Science Foundation in the United States), and with funding by the NIAID. This is the ViroVax / United States government connection. Here is a screenshot from an article by the EpscoR Idea Foundation on this “success story” (www.epscorideafoundation.org/success-stories/kansas-adjuvant-developed-with-nih-funding-enhances-efficacy-of-indias-covid-19-vaccine):

Note that Alhydroxiqium-II targets the lymph nodes of the person who takes COVAXIN. So, while this excipient is not exactly a lipid nanoparticle (LNP), it, in Yours Truly’s opinion, basically functions like an LNP in targeting the lymph nodes for delivery of the “vaccine payload” of COVAXIN; and, by “stimulating” the “vaccinated” person’s natural immune system to go and “search” for invading pathogens. By the way, Aluminium Hydroxide Gel is not to be used in foods, drugs pesticides, or “biocidal” products — see the screenshot below, from the search on Fisher Scientific (ThermoFisher) about this chemical, Page 1:

HOWEVER, it appears that FisherScientific had a “change of heart” since December 2021 regarding the “Uses advised against” for Aluminium Hydroxide — below is their MSDS Safety Sheet as of February 2024, Page 1:

Here is another source for an MSDS Safety Sheet, this one specifically for Aluminium Hydroxide Gel: www.oxfordlabfinechem.com/msds/ALUMINIUMHYDROXIDEGEL.pdf. Please see section 3 Hazards Identification; and section 11 Toxicological Information Special Remarks on Other Toxic Effects on Humans. Below is part of the Special Remarks portion of section 11:

The TLR7/8 excipient (adjuvant) in COVAXIN: This one is used in immunotherapy, including in the treatment of HIV-1. Please see: https://doi.org/10.3389/fmicb.2023.1033448, “Novel TLR7/8 agonists promote activation of HIV-1 latent reservoirs and human T and NK cells”, Yangyang Li, et al., 26 January 2023. This begs the question, Why is an HIV-1 immunotherapy treatment element being used in a COVID-19 “vaccine?” This also, in Yours Truly’s opinion, removes any consideration of COVAXIN to be labeled a “vaccine” — it is actually a gene therapy/immunotherapy injectable.

And, the 2-Phenoxyethanol excipient (adjuvant) in COVAXIN. Below is a screenshot portion of the Fisher Scientific (ThermoFisher) MSDS Safety Sheet for this chemical, Page 1:

The Kaur, et al., paper, goes into detail regarding the types of reported serious adverse events that affected the study subject pool who took COVAXIN. Three pages of the Supplementary Table 1. from the paper are below. Note that these are details from subjects one year after “vaccination” with COVAXIN. Note also that another paper from December 2020 (by different authors) shows that the S1 protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself crosses the Blood-Brain Barrier.

If Yours Truly is reading about this situation correctly, it appears that one of the “problems” with the Kaur, et al., paper, is that the subject pool of COVAXIN-“vaccinated” persons in North India who reported serious adverse events following “vaccination” to the study authors was “small.” One has to ask: How many COVAXIN-“vaccine”-induced serious adverse events would need to be reported before they would be considered “relevant” by the Indian government and by Bharat BioTech? — say, a “minimum” of 3 million adverse events reports? Is it “within acceptable limits” that COVAXIN-“vaccinated” persons in North India suffer a stroke or a heart attack after “vaccination” with this product? Is this another situation of “the known and potential benefits outweigh the known and potential risks” of taking a COVID-19 “vaccine”, which is the “official” position of the CDC and the FDA in the United States?

Yours Truly has gone into detail regarding the situation with BBV152/COVAXIN for several reasons: First, to enumerate the multiple potentials for “vaccine”-induced serious adverse effects from this COVID-19 “vaccine” product; Second, to highlight the persecution of the authors of a paper who sought to study and write about these potentials; Third, to highlight the persecution of the journal that peer-reviewed, approved, and published the paper; Fourth, to bring to light the involvement of the United States government (via the NSF and the NIAID) in the funding and development of an ingredient (excipient/adjuvant) in this “vaccine” intended for use in a foreign country; and, Fifth, to again emphasize how important it is that consumers “do their own due diligence” regarding information on drugs and/or injectables that they put into their bodies.

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20240926

Cover image: Lake Cumberland, Kentucky

Okay, so, the family was on a camping trip in the old pop-up camper, and we had entirely too much rain for a couple days. Mom had a nasty cold. We were all in the station wagon waiting for mom and dad to take down the camper, and mom let her side down first and WHOOSH. The rain that collected on the roof of the camper for a few days drenched her. My brothers were like, Hey, Mom, do that again. It happened in Lake Cumberland State Park.

Badlands News Brief – September 25, 2024

Majority of Americans Admit to ‘Self-Silencing’ on Hot-Button Issues, Survey Finds

It’s a matter of keeping the peace in most cases.

It’s the ‘Caddyshack’ Election

Sundance responds to a reader:

Dear Bob Parker…

Senate Homeland Security and Govt Affairs Committee Releases Interim Report on Butler Assassination Attempt of President Trump

Mistakes were made…yeah, there’s an understatement for you.

New York City Mayor Eric Adams Indicted by DOJ

Indicted, huh. Let’s see what the indictment says before we, the people get all excited.

*** General Flynn on Eye of the Storm

Not stupid, just lazy

MMA fighter reveals why he’s entitled to beat up on women in the Octagon

Spiciest one-minute take on entire COVID sham: it was all about hysterical female energy…

COVID…Prohibition…[insert female led movement here]

The Vast Pharmaceutical Conspiracy to Silence Dissent Online

I went out to lunch with a friend on Wednesday and we got to talking about this. She and I are so on the same page, it’s not even funny.

Google Paid $2.7 Billion to Bring Back an AI Genius Who Quit in Frustration

Money talks.

Pope expels a bishop and 9 other people from a Peru movement over ‘sadistic’ abuses

Hey, there’s a stunner. The Vatican did something right for once.

TWEETS!

https://twitter.com/newstart_2024/status/1838665564648280274

Another post on this UN thing. VERY important.

MEMES and FUN STUFF

Play the E natural first.

It’s really more stylish than the Delorian.

Or osteosarcoma. Yes, it happens to runners.

Anymore, it’s a pain in the backside.

Shut up, little girl.

She called her husband Fang while doing stand-up. Great lady.

It’s the little things….

Couldn’t happen in a nicer city…says the St. Louisan where we regularly question Chicago’s spotlight.

I 💕 capybaras.

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1839020048800977258
https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1838951600351748601

That has to be a guy thing.

Just because it’s my current earworm….

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Ecclesiastes 1:2-11

2Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher, vanity of vanities! All is vanity. 3What does man gain by all the toil at which he toils under the sun? 4A generation goes, and a generation comes, but the earth remains for ever. 5The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises. 6The wind blows to the south, and goes round to the north; round and round goes the wind, and on its circuits the wind returns. 7All streams run to the sea, but the sea is not full; to the place where the streams flow, there they flow again. 8All things are full of weariness; a man cannot utter it; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing. 9What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun. 10Is there a thing of which it is said, “See, this is new”? It has been already, in the ages before us. 11There is no remembrance of former things, nor will there be any remembrance of later things yet to happen among those who come after.

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SATIRE

Come live out here during tornado season.

And for those looking for wholesome content on YouTube, I’ve been following this lobster fisherman in Maine. We know farming, but do we know commercial fishing?

WEEKEND STARTER

Martha’s Cider-Bourbon Cocktail

Ingredients

  • ¾ cup apple cider
  • ⅓ cup bourbon
  • 2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
  • 2 (2 ½-inch-long) thin slices fresh ginger
  • 2 thin slices from a small apple, such as lady, for garnish

Directions

  1. Make cocktail:Fill a cocktail shaker with ice. Add cider, bourbon, lemon juice, and ginger; shake until well chilled.
  2. Strain and serve:Strain and divide cocktail between two glasses. Garnish with apple slices.

Have a good one y’all.

DEAR KMAG 20240925 DAILY THREAD — ISRAEL, USA & WAR


Notice The British Empire vs The Ottoman Empire in the first map on the left. I thought about the promises the Brits made to the Arabs if they revolted against the Ottoman Empire. I did a bit of digging and decided I am going to explore WHY the Brits/Rothschilds were so interested in destroying the Ottoman Empire in the next article. Looks like double crossing the Arabs and adding Israel to the mix was a feature not a bug.

YOU HAVE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY BRAINWASHED AND YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW IT! And yes I mean all of us. I finished writing this and realized I had gone about it all wrong. Therefore I am changing the order and add a lot more information. (So what else is new?)

Our puppet masters are well aware that “…emotions drive more than 80 percent of our decision-making, while logic makes up the rest.… Social psychologists have discovered that emotional response to a given stimuli is milliseconds faster than cognitive or thinking response…” AND “… anger [along with fear] is one of our strongest and most powerful emotions…” In other words they know how to manipulate the public.

False Flag events are REAL events orchestrated by governments or non-state actors to elicit a specific response from the public — Fear & Anger. To make sure the specific response by the public is achieved AND directed toward the selected target, propaganda is used. It is all about getting the public’s buy-in to the Cabal’s narrative and has NOTHING to do with the truth.


5th-Gen Warfare Terms and Tactics —

“The deliberate manipulation of an observer’s context in order to achieve a desired outcome.” by Dr Robert Malone

“The basic idea behind this term [fifth-generation warfare] is that in the modern era, wars are not fought by armies or guerrillas, but in the minds of common citizens.”— Al Jazeera

So, what is fifth generation warfare and why does it matter?

5th-Gen warfare is an extension of Asymmetric and Insurgent Warfare strategies and tactics, whereby both conventional and unconventional military tactics and weapons are incorporated and deployed, 👉including exploitation of political, religious and social causes. 👈 This new gradient of warfare uses the internet, social media and the 24 hour news cycle to change cognitive biases of individuals and/or organizations. It can be conducted by organized or unorganized (ergo decentralized) groups; it may be led by nation states, non-nation state actors and organizations, non-governmental organizations or even individuals. A key characteristic of 5th Gen warfare is that the nature of the attack is concealed. The goal is to disrupt and defeat opponents by creating new cognitive biases.

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WHO CONTROLS THE PROPAGANDA WE CONSUME?


This is key to understanding how we are being manipulated and BY WHOM. Please put your emotions on hold and look at this without the religious overtones. However if you do want to introduce religion…


Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie….


Revelation 3:9:


I do not think the Cabal is ‘Jewish’ but instead are Lovers of Money and POWER who use the Jewish religion as cover especially in the USA. (Just try criticizing George Soros.)

…One item stands out as a person listens to the International Bankers and reads their books. They believe money is what makes the world go round. If you have money, you can do anything. Money is “God”, and it is worshipped and served. Even after these families accumulate more than can be spent, these devotees continue selling their souls for this false but powerful god. The great poet-philosopher Heinrich Heine (a Banker’s son) said, “Money is the god of our time, and Rothschild is his prophet.”As quoted in Sampson, Anthony. The Money Lenders. Middlesex, Eng.: Penguin Books, Ltd., 1985, p.37.

…According to eye-witnesses, who were prominent enough to visit one of the British Rothschild homes, the Rothschilds worship yet another god too, Satan. They set a place for him at their table.(8a) The Rothschilds have been Satanists for many generations. LINK

BELOW: “Marina Abramovic posing with Lord Jacob Rothschild, who is also a lover of the “arts.” The painting behind them just happens to be “Satan summoning his Legions” (1797), by Sir Thomas Lawrence.”


Just as we Americans are duped by the US government, the Jewish people are duped by theirs. In both cases atrocities are committed in our name as the true villains hide. You do not need The Khazar-Rothschild Continuum and the Hidden Hand of History (Burning Platform) to explain the present situation, all you need is the love of Power, Wealth, AND WAR!


Yeah, seems the Rothschilds OWN Charlies and have owned England since 1815.

THIS IS A CRITICAL POINT!

TIMELINE

1815 — Napoleon lost the Battle of Waterloo.

Nathan spread the rumor that Napoleon had won and that everyone on the English Stock Market should start selling their useless English money. Rothchilds’ agents were then able to purchase nearly the entire English Stock Market at incredibly low prices, thus controlling the entire English market…As of 2015, the English government is still paying back money owed to the Rothschild family from this Napoleonic fraud (Now removed from Investopedia, fancy that.)

1858 — The Suez Canal was an immensely profitable investment by the Rothschild family. The Rothschild’s basically owned the British banking system and had funded all the British war efforts throughout the 19th century. Because the Suez Canal was built with slave labor, the Brits did not want their name associated with the building of it. Prime Minister, Benjamin Disraeli, (Jewish BTW) had N M Rothschild & Sons acted for the British Government instead. Disraeli was a close personal friend of Lionel de Rothschild. LINK

1881 – Assassination of Tsar Alexander II in retaliation for his help during the US Civil War. Start of the Jewish Pogram in Russia in response to the assassination carried out by socialist Jews.

1882 -1918 — The Rothschilds began to buy land in Palestine. The Rothschilds, who had international power as they lent money to all governments, wanted the refugee Russian Jews to be allowed to settle in these lands. By 1918, one-twentieth of Palestine’s fertile lands belonged to the Rothschilds. — Who sold Palestine?

If the people settling in Palestine were Russian Jews, perhaps the scientist who looked at their DNA was correct and they are more closely related to the Khazars than to Middle East people. Remember these Jews were refugees because Jewish Socialists had assassinated the Tzar and Russians took out their anger on the entire Jewish community. Also, exactly WHO owns Israel if the Rothschilds bought the land?

1895London School of Economics was founded by Sidney Webb.

Among its major contributors: the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and Mrs. Ernest Elmhirst, the widow of J. P. Morgan partner Willard Straight, who founded the socialist. magazine New Republic. — The Fabians, the Round Table, and the Rhodes Scholars

The Fabian co-founders, the Webbs, founded the London School of economics with a bit of financial help from Nathan Rothschild. [ALL references are now gone…]

More recently Evelyn de Rothschild was a Governor of LSU.

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THE TAKE OVER OF THE USA

Cartoon by Robert Minor [a Communist] in St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1911). Karl Marx surrounded by an appreciative audience of Wall Street financiers: John D. Rockefeller, J. P. Morgan, John D. Ryan of National City Bank, and Morgan partner George W. Perkins. Immediately behind Karl Marx is Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the Progressive Party.

1913 The Federal Reserve Cartel: Part I: The Eight Families

…J. W. McCallister, an oil industry insider with House of Saud connections, wrote in The Grim Reaper that information he acquired from Saudi bankers cited 80% ownership of the New York Federal Reserve Bank- by far the most powerful Fed branch- by just eight families, four of which reside in the US. They are the Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York; the Rothschilds of Paris and London; the Warburgs of Hamburg; the Lazards of Paris; and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome.

CPA Thomas D. Schauf corroborates McCallister’s claims, adding that ten banks control all twelve Federal Reserve Bank branches…


From: CHAPTER FIVE The House of Rothschild [SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE By Eustace Mullins]

…They are J.P. Morgan Company, Brown Brothers Harriman, Warburg, Kuhn Loeb and J. Henry Schroder. All of them maintain close relationships with the House of Rothschild, principally through the Rothschild control of international money markets through its manipulation of the price of gold…. Although these firms are ostensibly American firms,.. the fact is that these banking houses actually take their direction from London. Their history is a fascinating one, and unknown to the American public originating as it did in the international traffic in gold, slaves, diamonds, and other contraband.

👉 There are no moral considerations in any business decision made by these firms. They are interested solely in money and power.


1913 – Anti-Defamation League (ADL), formerly known as the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith is an international NGO formed in NYC. It opposed McCarthyism during the Cold War. (Can’t have the Commies and other traitors exposed now can we? Nor people like George Soros criticized.)


1917 — Congressional Record, February 9, 1917 Rothschild agents take control of US Media.

In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, ship building and powder interests and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press in the United States…

1950 February 17, 1950, James Warburg confidently declared to the United States Senate:

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”  
James Paul Warburg (1896-1969) was the son of Paul Moritz Warburg, and a nephew of both Felix Warburg and Jacob Schiff, both associated with Kuhn, Loeb & Company which financed the Russian Revolution through James’ brother Max, banker to the government of Germany.
[Mastermind of the Federal Reserve]

1948 — Tantura massacre: Documentary exposes Israel’s foundational myth

“Some of these young soldiers I remember – it’s not nice to say – they put [the Palestinian villagers] in a barrel and shot at the barrel, and I remember the blood in the barrel.”

1953 — The Qibya massacre: The difference between deterrence and vengeance

Qibya is one of the saddest and most difficult events in Israeli history. A military unit enters a village, and when the raid is over, 43 homes had been demolished, and 69 civilians – mostly women and children – had been killed.

1954 — AIPAC

AIPAC was founded in 1954 by Isaiah L. Kenen, a lobbyist for the Israeli government, partly to counter negative international reactions to Israel’s Qibya massacre of Palestinian villagers that year. –WIKI

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ISRAEL LOBBY DOMINATES CONGRESS & THE SENATE

Many Democrat congressmen, senators and bureaucrats have duel Israeli citizenship LINK & LINK 👉That list includes David Plouffe.

I can not find my reference to the Democrat connection to AIPAC. but here are some alternate references:

No mention of Palestinians or Israeli settlements, as Democrats take AIPAC stage

A Big-Money Operation [by AIPAC] Purged Critics of Israel From the Democratic Party

AIPAC uncorks $100 million war chest to sink progressive candidates

Building on a successful playbook from 2022, AIPAC and other aligned groups are picking their targets — many more of them this time.

A California Democrat running for Rep. Katie Porter’s seat suddenly became the target of an unexpected barrage of negative ads from the nation’s premier pro-Israel group this year. So he emailed a former Michigan representative, Andy Levin, for advice.

Levin was ousted from his House seat in 2022, after the American Israel Public Affairs Committee spent $4 million against him. Levin was one of a handful of Democrats targeted by AIPAC last cycle, when the group went after a range of progressive candidates in mostly open House primaries over their criticism of Israel….

Rep. Thomas Massie tells Tucker Carlson every GOP member of Congress has an ‘AIPAC babysitter’

“Everybody but me has an AIPAC person — like your AIPAC babysitter, who is always talking to you for AIPAC,”Massie said. “They’re probably a constituent from your district but they’re firmly embedded in AIPAC.”

“Every member has something like this?” Tucker Carlson asked.

“Every Repub–, I don’t know how it works on the Democrat side, but that’s how it works on the Republican side, and when you come to DC you go have lunch with them and they’ve got your cell number and you have conversations with them.”

“That’s crazy,” Carlson responded.

“So, I’ve had four members of Congress say, ‘I’ll talk to my AIPAC person’ — that’s literally what we call them, ‘my AIPAC guy,'” Massie said, laughing. “‘I’ll talk to my AIPAC guy and see if I can get them to, you know, dial those ads back.'”

“Why have I never heard this before?” Carlson said.

“It doesn’t benefit anybody,” Massie said, “why would they want to tell their constituents that they’ve basically got a buddy system with somebody who is representing a foreign country, it doesn’t benefit the congressmen for people to know that so they’re not going to tell you that.”

FORWARD: Jewish Independent Nonprofit Says It’s Time For AIPAC To Register As A Foreign Agent

…AIPAC is one of the leading forces behind the Israel lobby, joined in recent years by the ascending Christians United for Israel. Other Jewish “pro-Israel” organizations are niche affairs, representing particular constituencies on the left or right. But it’s AIPAC that is the registered lobby on Capitol Hill, and it is AIPAC whose clout on matters relating to Israel exceeds the clout of the National Rifle Association on matters related to guns; while the NRA’s sway is almost entirely over Republicans,

AIPAC has historically drawn its support from both parties. Is there any place but AIPAC that not only gets Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in the same room, but also gets to hear them in near total agreement?

But there’s something strange, too, about AIPAC. Consider Vice President Mike Pence’s 

remarks at last year’s conference:

Every freedom-loving American stands with Israel — because her cause is our cause, her values are our values and her fight is our fight.” [Excuse me bull schiff! Why should US blood and money go to defend another country when we have major problems here at home? –GC]

And it is not just Congress.

FBI Basic Field Training Course

The Department of Justice released the Anti-Defamation League’s Basic Field Training Course (PDF). The course is mandatory for all FBI New Agent Trainees (NATs) and New Intelligence Analyst Trainees (NIATs). This release follows a decade of Freedom of Information Act requests and denials by the Department of Justice (PDF) and evasion by publicly funded content contributors.

The ADL course is developed and conducted by Anti-Defamation League (ADL) instructors. It selects materials from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) and Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial. Marcus Appelbaum, Museum Director of Law, Justice and Society Initiatives in 2014 resisted any public review of the curriculum, stating, “Unfortunately we do not randomly send out the curriculum.” Appelbaum also denied that any of the large amounts of U.S. taxpayer funding supporting the museum paid for the curriculum.

The ADL course facilitates a discussion of the USHMM video 

The Path to Nazi Genocide by asking trainees to watch and then consider “the challenges that police officers faced, and decisions they made in Germany during the Nazi era.” The video depicts the rise of Nazi Germany from WWI to the final WWII liberation of concentration camps replete with emaciated images of the dead and barely living.

The final question the video puts to agents in training is why the word “genocide” had to be coined in the aftermath. “As the world struggled to understand what had happened, a new word, genocide, was needed for these crimes — crimes committed by ordinary people from a society not unlike our own.”

And the influence extends to our military too. See the 133 page FOIA document obtained from the Department of Defense entitled: AFSS 0910 EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND TREATMENT INCIDENTS (EOTI) LESSON PLAN

The whole document was obtained by Judicial Watch. August 22, 2013 ARCHIVED DOC

LESSON EMPHASIS

This lesson will focus on awareness and current issues requiring the attention of future Equal Opportunity Advisors. It will also provide information that describes sources of extremism information, definitions, recruitment of DoD personnel, common themes in extremist ideologies, common characteristics of extremist organizations, DoD policies, and command functions regarding extremist activities. ……

RECOMMENDED READING

Seven Stage Hate Model, FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin March

The following references are additional sources for current extremism information:

Anti-Defamation League – www.adl.org [The Anti-Defamation League was founded in 1913 “to stop the defamation of the Jewish people ]

Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism – www.hatemonitor.csusb.edu [The Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino is a nonpartisan research and policy center ]

Know Gangs – www.knowgangs.com

Political Research Associates – www.publiceye.org

Southern Poverty Law Center – www.splcenter.org

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THE SAMPSON OPTION

In the early ‘90s, legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh revealed the “Samson Option,” a secret Israeli nuclear deterrence strategy.

The Unclear Bomb – Investigating Israel’s ‘Samson Option’

…John F. Kennedy had run-ins with the Israel lobby early in his presidential campaign. He was visited by Abe Feinberg and eventually given $500,000 for his campaign. Feinberg is an important Jewish figure to have on side as his vote swayed the opinion of many Jewish businessmen in the USA at the time. Simultaneously he had a foot in Israeli politics, campaigning for the Zionist cause. Kennedy had needed the funding but was uncomfortable about the level of control Feinberg and other Zionists wanted to have over the President’s Middle East foreign policy.

Kennedy was committed to the cause of nuclear non-proliferation. It was one of the planks of his moral case for presidency and it sat well with a war-weary public. He would routinely pressure Ben-Gurion about inspections of the Dimona facility only to be stonewalled….

I quote here from Seymour Hersh’s eye opening ‘The Samson Option’ – an unparalleled research into Israeli nuclear ambitions with an array of primary sources in the US and Israeli intelligence services.

Ben-Gurion took no chances: the American inspectors – most of them experts in nuclear reprocessing – would be provided with a Potemkin village and never know it.

The Israeli scheme, based on plans supplied by the French, was simple: a false control room was constructed at Dimona, complete with false control panels and computer-driven measuring devices that seemed to be gauging the thermal output of a twenty-four megawatt reactor (as Israel claimed Dimona to be) in full operation….

Thus the semi-secret nuclear reprocessing could continue under wraps, the Kennedy government none the wiser. Following Kennedy’s assassination Israel had a much easier time under Lyndon Johnson. He would not only look the other way on the nuclear weapons issue, but would go on to approve missile and fighter jet deliveries to Israel. At the heightened speed of processing Israel could produce enough enriched Uranium for 4 or 5 nuclear warheads per year, from the late 1960s. Ben-Gurion’s successor, Moshe Dayan, continued in this stead following some pressure from the Zionist lobby in Israel and globally to keep Israel ‘safe’ by arming herself with nukes….

The above is one version of the story. This is the less ‘nice’ version.
THE SAMSON OPTION – ISRAEL IS THE GREATEST THREAT TO THE ENTIRE WORLD

Remember the ‘Samson Option’? 

Israel says they have nuclear missiles aimed at cities all over Europe, which they curiously and insanely regard as ‘hostile’, this being the preferred choice of target of the Israeli Air Force. Israel routinely calls the USA ‘anti-semitic’ too. Does anything strike you a being a little odd about that?….

During an interview with Alan Hart, the then Israeli premier Golda Meir twice stated that Israel was prepared to destroy the whole world with nuclear weapons if Israel ever faced military defeat...


More details: The Samson Option: Was nuclear blackmail confirmed by Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir?

…In an interview with Alan Hart of the BBC, Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir actually threatened the entire world with nuclear Armageddon. She verified the “Samson Option” without batting an eye, much less flinching …

Hart: “I recall the words spoken to me many years ago by Golda Meir, Mother Israel, when she was prime minister. At a point during an interview I did with her for the BBC’s Panorama programme, I interrupted her to ask, “Prime Minister, I want to be sure I understand what you’re saying … You are saying that if Israel was ever in danger of being defeated on the battlefield, it would be prepared to take the region and the whole world down with it?”

Meir “without the shortest of pauses for reflection, and in the gravel voice that could charm or intimidate American Presidents according to need” replied: “Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.”

Should we believe Alan Hart and share his conviction that Mother Israel meant exactly what she said? Yes, because we have similar reports from other reliable sources. For instance, I remember reading Robert Fisk’s book The Great War for Civilisation in which Fisk, a keen-eyed and objective observer, mentioned watching high-ranking American diplomats like Colin Powell and Madeline Albright acting deferentially, even fearfully, around Israeli leaders.  If we consider the normal operating mode of American politicians—hubris—that seems hard to believe, unless Israel was threatening to use nuclear weapons. When I put two and two together, it seems to me that Israel may have warned American diplomats, “Unless we are allowed to have our way with Arabs, and the world acquiesces to our brutal, unjust treatment of them, we are willing to unleash a nuclear Armageddon on the world.”

And it seems those American diplomats also believed the threat of the Samson Option.


Henry Kissinger’s role

Do not forget National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200 and his declaration: In 10 Years, There Will Be No More Israel. Other link: New York Post, Sep 17, 2012


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu uses a cartoon diagram of a bomb while delivering his address to the 67th United Nations General Assembly session, September 27, 2012.

THE SAMSON OPTION:

Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and 

American Foreign Policy

By Seymour M. Hersh

Prelude to War 

Israel’s development as a full-blown nuclear power by 1969 could not have come at a more fortuitous time, in terms of the American presidency. Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger approached inauguration day on January 20, 1969, convinced that Israel’s nuclear ambitions were justified and understandable. Once in office, they went a step further: they endorsed Israel’s nuclear ambitions. 

The two American leaders also shared a contempt for the 1968 Nonproliferation Treaty, which had been so ardently endorsed in public by Lyndon Johnson. Nixon, midway in his campaign against Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey, dismayed the arms control community by urging the Senate to delay ratification of the NPT until after the election. He went further a few days later, telling newsmen in Charlotte, North Carolina, that he specifically was concerned about the NPT’s failure to permit the transfer of “defensive nuclear weapons,” such as mines or anti-ballistic missile systems, to non-nuclear powers. Government arms controllers were hugely relieved in early February 1969 when Nixon formally requested the Senate to take up the treaty and then stated at a news conference that he would do all he could to urge France and West Germany— known to have reservations—to sign it: “I will make it clear that I believe that ratification of the treaty by all governments, nuclear and non-nuclear, is in the interest of peace and in the interest of reducing the possibility of nuclear proliferation.” 

In the secrecy of their offices, however, as only a few in the government knew, Nixon and Kissinger had simultaneously issued a presidential order to the bureaucracy undercutting all that was said in public. The classified document, formally known as National Security Decision Memorandum (NSDM) No. 6, stated that “there should be no efforts by the United States government to pressure other nations, particularly the Federal Government of Germany, to follow suit [and ratify the NPT]. The government, in its public posture, should reflect a tone of optimism that other countries will sign or ratify, while clearly disassociating itself [in private] from any plan to bring pressure on these countries to sign or ratify.”

[So in other words,we are doing the exact opposite of what we are telling the American People we are doing DC]  

“It was a major change in American policy,” recalled Morton H. Halperin, then Kissinger’s closest aide on the National Security Council staff. “Henry believed that it was good to spread nuclear weapons around the world. I heard him say that if he were the Israelis, he would get nuclear weapons. He did not believe that the United States should try and talk them out of it.”.

We really need POTUS Trump and the Abraham Accords!

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Given the information above, I am in agreement with Tonawanda.

Tonawanda(@tonawanda)

 September 23, 2024 09:11

I realize that many on our side regard the exploding pagers as primarily a laughing matter, and secondarily as an object of admiration.

Our side has been almost categorically on the side of Israel, regardless of the circumstances.

Ron Unz has a different take on the matter:

https://www.unz.com/runz/mossads-exploding-pager-attacks-and-911

No doubt, the all purpose response of name calling, a form of “shut up” with implied threats, is what can be expected to the information he presents.

But it is information he presents, information which can be evaluated and assessed in a rational/reasonable manner.

Unz has the same impression I had of the exploding pagers, that the scheme was a brilliant operation indistinguishable from barbaric terrorism. Unz goes into some depth about the extensive use of assassination and terrorism by the Zionists before the founding of Israel, and by Israel itself. The exploding pagers were not assassination.

Unz is a very cautious and scrupulous man. He provides sources and documentation for his assertions, and he honestly admits to speculation when he is speculating.

It would take a year to read and comprehend the archives at Unz.com, but the effort is well worth while with respect to an assortment of topics where the official narrative on a given topic turns out to be a series of lies, distortions and brainwashing.

On our side, we have been discovering for years how we have been lied to by our alleged government (run by TPTB) about a variety of topics. We are at the point where nothing is believed if it originates from the “government” or from their media/institutional frontmen.

The distinction has been made here and on other sites between the American people and the “government” who claims to act on our behalf. One of the fascinating aspects in this regard was Tucker’s interview with Putin, who disclosed his understanding that what the American “government” did was not endorsed or supported by a vast segment of the American people.

That distinction is a good one IMO when applied both here and in other countries.

Let me be very clear that I am condemning WAR especially Nuclear War and not the Jewish people. The IDF stood down allowing the murder of innocents just like our Air force stood down during 9-11. In both cases it was ALL ABOUT starting a war.

CONFIRMED: Israel ordered IDF to STAND DOWN and let Hamas attack – now Israel wants full-scale war to fulfill decades-long plan for “Greater Israel

The JERUSALEM POST: IDF knew of Hamas’s plan to kidnap 250 before October 7 attack – report

September 17, 2023 Saudi Arabia Suspends Talks on Normalizing Relations With Israel

Saudi Arabia has informed the United States of the termination of negotiations to normalize relations with Israel, media reported, citing a source in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office.

The source claimed that the Netanyahu government had rejected “conciliatory gestures” towards the Palestinians and acceptance of the demands of the right wing bloc undermined any possibility of rapprochement with the Palestinians and Saudi Arabia itself.

The Israeli leadership is “at a loss” over Riyadh’s decision to halt any negotiations with Washington on normalizing relations, the source added…

It is my opinion that factions within Israel never wanted peace in the first place. They wanted WAR! AND they want the USA to fight that war for them.

 Rabbis Against War with Iran: An Open Letter 

We, the undersigned American Jewish clergy, are deeply concerned about reports that Prime Minister Netanyahu will demand of President Obama, at their meeting at the White House today, that either the United States attack Iran, or else, Israel will...

Most of the people of the State of Israel oppose Prime Minister Netanyahu’s military threats against Iran. They fear the consequences of an attack on Iran. As Jewish leaders, we too believe that the path of wisdom towards achieving peace and stability in the region is through dialog and engagement and not through acts of war. We call on the United States government to safeguard the interests of the people of Israel and Iran…

‘Stop Vetoing Peace,’ Rabbis Tell Biden at UN Security Council Protest

….the latest high-profile demonstration demanding the United States end its opposition to a cease-fire in Gaza.

The rabbis—whose action was organized by Rabbis for Cease-fire, Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, Jewish Voice for Peace, and IfNotNow—displayed banners with messages for U.S. President Joe Biden: “Biden: The World Says Cease-Fire,” and “Biden: Stop Vetoing Peace.”

The protest came weeks after the U.S. alone vetoed a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for Israel to end its bombardment of Gaza, which has killed at least 23,210 people, injured more than 59,100, and left thousands more missing and feared dead under rubble, as the population of the enclave faces starvation and disease stemming from Israel’s blockade…

If you do not have time for the entire video, please listen to the first 7 minutes AND especially the couple of minutes from 23 to 25 minutes.

These two rabbis explain WHY the Torah says Israel should NOT EXIST and that religious Jews are bullied, attacked and even murdered by the SECULAR Zionists if they try to speak up.

Funny how we hear about the idiots supporting HAMAS, but not the JEW CALLING FOR PEACE, not to mention the Orthodox Jews like those above saying establishing Israel was AGAINST GOD’s COMMAND! 🤔

Dear KAG: 20240924 Open Thread

Cover Image: Thunderstorm by Anna Repp

Badlands News Brief – September 23, 2024

The Werewolf Game – On Languages and Cover-ups

MUSIC IS ABOUT TO STOP

Eye of the Storm 165 recap

The Harvest

Eye of the Storm 166 Recap

Dems Put Bounty on Trump’s Head

I’m not sure I agree with Clandestine on this one. Could all be part of the show.

Kamala Harris skips the Al Smith dinner with all those godawful Catholics

They rejected free PR?

Gen Z is Quiet Quitting Higher Education for Trade Schools

Former AG Barr ‘dumbfounded’ at DOJ’s decision to release letter of Trump would-be assassin

Key Nebraska Republican opposes Trump effort to change state’s electoral vote process

Actually, if all states did the Maine/Nebraska thing, the electoral map would look very different. So would on the ground campaigning.

In a First, Young Men Are More Religious Than Young Women

I will say where I am in the Catholic Church, we are seeing a lot of young men in the pews. Young women, too, but we’ve always had those.

Zelensky Attacks Trump and Vance to U.S. Media, Tours Ammo Plant in PA at Taxpayers’ Expense

And Sundance’s take:

DOJ Release Letter Written by Trump’s Attempted Assassin Promising to Pay $150,000 For Someone Else to Finish the Job

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

I must admit I like her style.

And yet another opinion.

A classic Al Smith dinner:

Meme Zone

https://twitter.com/puppiesDoglover/status/1838239768259223736
https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1838302319966064840
https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1838241844699779502

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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Proverbs 21:1-6, 10-13

1The king’s heart is a stream of water in the hand of the LORD; he turns it wherever he will. 2Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the LORD weighs the heart. 3To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. 4Haughty eyes and a proud heart, the lamp of the wicked, are sin. 5The plans of the diligent lead surely to abundance, but every one who is hasty comes only to want. 6The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a fleeting vapor and a snare of death. 

[7 The robberies of the wicked shall be their downfall, because they would not do judgment.  8 The perverse way of a man is strange: but as for him that is pure, his work is right.  9 It is better to sit in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman, and in a common house.]

10The soul of the wicked desires evil; his neighbor finds no mercy in his eyes. 11When a scoffer is punished, the simple becomes wise; when a wise man is instructed, he gains knowledge. 12The righteous observes the house of the wicked; the wicked are cast down to ruin. 13He who closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself cry out and not be heard.

Luke 8:19-21

19Then his mother and his brothers came to him, but they could not reach him for the crowd. 20And he was told, “Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, desiring to see you.” 21But he said to them, “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it.”

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

Please, Lord, deliver us from Francis.

Dear KMAG: 20240923 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

dompteuse

noun

  • female animal trainer
  • borrowed French word for a female tamer of animals

Shown in a picture

But who trains the trainers?


MUSIC!

I was not aware of this song.

This becomes relevant below.


THE STUFF

Must thank Aubergine for this one.

Not sure if she gave me this URL, or if YouTube helped after a different video, but this one is grand.

Is this like a thing in Demmunist politics?

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear MAGA: 20240922 Open Topic

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Spiritual Darkness

Spiritual darkness is the state of a person who is living apart from God. The Old Testament book of Isaiah, in prophesying of the Messiah, speaks of a deep spiritual darkness that enveloped the people: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned” (Isaiah 9:2). This passage reappears in the New Testament, in Matthew 4:16, to announce that those who have come to know the God of Israel through His Son Jesus Christ are the ones who have been delivered from spiritual darkness and now walk in the light of God’s life.

The apostle John taught that God is light: “This is the message we heard from Jesus and now declare to you: God is light, and there is no darkness in Him at all. So we are lying if we say we have fellowship with God but go on living in spiritual darkness; we are not practicing the truth” (1 John 1:5–6, NLT). And Jesus declared that He is the light of the world: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life” (John 8:12).

Thus, spiritual darkness means not having fellowship with God through a relationship with Jesus Christ. The darkness of separation from God is overcome through Christ: “In Him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it” (John 1:4–5).

From the moment Adam and Eve sinned, humans have lived in a fallen world. All people are born in a fallen state of sin and separation from God. Until a person is reborn of God’s Spirit, he or she lives in spiritual darkness. Sin darkens our understanding and destroys our spiritual sight, cloaking us in deep darkness: “But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know what makes them stumble” (Proverbs 4:19). Moses compares this state of sin and disobedience to groping about like “a blind person in the dark” (Deuteronomy 28:29). One of Job’s friends speaks of those who are lost in spiritual darkness: “Darkness comes upon them in the daytime; at noon they grope as in the night” (Job 5:14).

Living in rebellion to God and His will is equivalent to living in spiritual darkness. When the Lord commissioned Paul, He said, “I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes, so they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God. Then they will receive forgiveness for their sins and be given a place among God’s people, who are set apart by faith in Me” (Acts 26:17–18, NLT).

After salvation, believers become beacons of the spiritual light of Christ: “For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light” (Ephesians 5:8). Those who are in Jesus Christ have been rescued from the kingdom of darkness: “He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son” (Colossians 1:13, ESV). Those who reject Jesus Christ face eternal separation from God in “blackest darkness” (Jude 1:4–13).

In Judaism, a person’s inner character and moral quality are understood to be reflected through the eyes. In Matthew 6:22–23, Jesus compares the moral condition of an unregenerate soul to darkness: “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!” Jesus’ listeners would have understood that a healthy eye is one that lets in light just as a healthy regenerated heart lets in spiritual light. But a sick or sinful eye (or heart) shuts out light, leaving the soul in spiritual darkness.

The apostle Paul describes those in a sinful state before knowing Christ as possessing a darkened, closed mind and a hardened heart: “Their minds are full of darkness; they wander far from the life God gives because they have closed their minds and hardened their hearts against Him” (Ephesians 4:18, NLT).

Unbelievers live in spiritual darkness because Satan, the god of this world, has blinded their minds. They cannot see the glorious light of the gospel: “Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God” (2 Corinthians 4:4, NLT).

Spiritual darkness refers to all that is in opposition to the light of God’s love in Christ. The good news that Jesus brings to this world is that His light—His life-giving Spirit—floods light and life into the spiritual darkness of the sinner’s heart. The One who opened the eyes of the blind can also bring us out of spiritual darkness. No matter how deep the darkness, the light of God’s love and truth overcomes every sin that separates us from God.
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2024·09·21 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,578.70
Silver $30.80
Platinum $1,004.00
Palladium $1,092.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 123.745-
Gold:Silver 83.724+

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,622.40
Silver $31.24
Platinum $986.00
Palladium $1090.00
Rhodium $5,075.00
FRNSI* 125.859-
Gold:Silver 83.944-

Gold has now busted $2600. Silver is going up but not quite enough to keep up with gold (it’s worth slightly less in terms of gold than it was last week). Palladium jumped up then back down this last week, ending virtually unchanged. But platinum is sliding. Rhodium is essentially stable.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Piling On

Just an Observation

The latest flerfer complaint is that the Final Experiment (the trip to Antarctica to observe the 24 hour sun) won’t count because it’s not an experiment but rather an observation. WTF? Anyhow, in this video, among many things of interest such as the fact that other people will be taking sun pictures that day in order to test the effect of variables (which would make it an experiment!), it’s shown what a bunch of lying hypocrite charlatans they are for trying to make this argument:

And this one from a year ago where Dave McKeegan tells of plotting the positions of celestial bodies over the Earth’s surface…then translating that to the pizzaworld model.

Antarctica

Oh, and spring (for Antarctica; it will be fall for Northern Hemisphere folks) starts at 06:43 Mountain Time on the 22nd (Sunday). This is the moment when the sun, which appears to travel along the zodiac line (even though we are orbiting it), appears to cross the celestial equator, northbound. [The celestial equator is just our own equatorial plane, projected out to infinity in the sky. The zodiac is the plane of the Earth’s orbit about the sun, projected out to infinity in the sky.] That should be the nominal instant when more than half of the sun becomes visible at Amundsen-Scott station at the south pole. (However, refraction makes the sun appear higher in the sky than it otherwise would, when it’s near the horizon, so sunrise will be somewhat earlier than this for them–and has probably already happened.)

So wish the 40 or so people who have spent the last six months wintering over there in either twilight or complete darkness a good “morning”!

Oh, wait…this doesn’t exist, does it? It’s all CGI!

In which case let’s get our money’s worth out of all that CGI, since we paid for it with our tax money. Here are a couple of videos which are tours of the station. First, upstairs.

Downstairs:

And there’s a part three (out of 2?) for the bits buried under the ice (such as vehicle maintenance, the generators, the logistics area, and so on); largely stuff that can get cold.

Incidentally there are three generators, that rotate, one is generally undergoing maintenance, one is a backup, the other is the active one. If all three crap out, there’s another generator that might manage to keep one part of the the station above freezing, but were this sort of failure to happen during winter over, they’re basically dead. It’d be easier to get people off the ISS then out of Amundsen Scott during winter.

And here’s one for the Ice Cube neutrino observatory (you’ll recall discussions of the neutrino in my Sun article a couple of weeks ago as well as during the physics series, part 20):

Anyhow, I hope you all enjoyed all that expensive taxpayer-funded CGI.

The 800 lb Gorilla

Jupiter, as photographed by the Hubble Space Telescope in 2017. A true-color image.

The single most important fact about Jupiter is that it is BIG. How big? Well let’s compare it to Earth and the Moon:

By size it’s 11 times the width of Earth; by mass it’s 318 Earths. That’s over 2 1/2 times the mass of all other planets, asteroids, comets, etc., put together. Or to think of it another way, you can characterize the solar system as consisting of the Sun, Jupiter, and miscellaneous debris. (And even with that Jupiter is barely 1/1000 the mass of the Sun.) To put it in absolute terms, Jupiter is roughly 88,000 miles across; and even the Great Red Spot–which is storm in the atmosphere–would swallow the Earth.

Ironically, if Jupiter were somehow even more massive, it probably wouldn’t be much larger. The gas would simply compress more to make up for it. The maximum diameter might be a bit more than what we see, but not much. If it were 75 times more massive, it would actually be compressed enough to start fusing hydrogen…and it might actually be the size of Saturn; considerably smaller than its actual diameter.

Jupiter has four major moons, three of them larger than our Moon, plus another 91 smaller moons, generally too small to be forced into a spherical shape. Those four big moons are at least as interesting as Jupiter itself and will be covered in a different article.

Jupiter orbits at about 5.2 AU from the Sun (and I’m not going to explain AUs yet again). That makes its “year”–the time to make one orbit about the Sun–11.86 Earth years. It has almost no axial tilt, so it doesn’t have seasons to speak of.

This is significant: It’s beyond the “snow line.” This means that a lot of things that would normally be vapor inside the line–like water–are solid outside. Hydrogen and helium, the major constituents of the matter that formed the solar system, are considerably cooler and easier for planets to hang on to; and Jupiter did just that; that’s fundamentally why it is so big.

Jupiter rotates on its axis in 9 hours, 55 minutes, and 30 seconds. That’s considerably less time than it takes Earth to do so (23 hours, 56 minutes, 4 seconds…with respect to the stars). Combine that with the fact that it is 11 times wider, and it turns out that an object on the Jovian equator experiences 65 times the centrifugal (well…it’s actually centripetal) force as an object on Earth’s equator. Why does that matter? It makes Jupiter look distinctly oblate (squashed); the difference between the diameter through the poles and between the equator is actually noticeable.

Jupiter is made almost entirely of gas and (deep down, under insane amounts of pressure somewhere between 500 and 4,000 atmospheres) liquid metallic hydrogen. Yes, under extreme pressure hydrogen behaves like a metal, complete with metallic bonds. And deep inside is a rock and ice core, that all by itself is larger than Earth. The following diagram is a cutaway of Jupiter. The pressures down there could be as high as 40,000 atmospheres, and the temperature is likely around 20,000K (versus 165K (-163 F) near the visible “surface.”

Unsurprisingly the atmosphere is mostly hydrogen (roughly 3/4), helium (a bit less than 1/4), plus a bunch of simple molecules like water (H2O), methane (CH4), ammonia (NH3), hydrogen sulfide (H2S), and even phosphine (PH3)…basically simple molecules made up of very common elements.

What we see is an “upper” cloud deck, but as it happens the light bands (called “zones”) are at a considerably higher altitude than the dark bands (called “belts”). The upper clouds made largely of ammonia ice are at a pressure of 0.6 – 0.9 Earth atmospheres, the lower visible clouds contain sulfur compounds as well as water ice and can be anywhere from 1-7 Earth atmospheres.

All of this implies that the atmosphere just above these clouds is already fairly thick, while being clear enough for us to see through.

That liquid metallic hydrogen has a significant consequence–Jupiter has a ridiculously huge magnetosphere. Since it captures charged particles, just like our Van Allen belts do here on Earth, that makes the entire Jovian system, including the Moons, very hazardous from a radiation standpoint. We can’t realistically send manned missions to Jupiter’s moons because of this, with the possible exception of the outermost of the large moons. It’s shaped something like a tadpole, with the head facing the Sun and the tail pointing away from the Sun. I haven’t been able to nail down the diameter of the magnetosphere, but it extends some 7 million kilometers towards the Sun, and the tail nearly reaches Saturn’s orbit. More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Jupiter

Like the Sun, Jupiter exhibits differential rotation, with belts and zones rotating at different speeds and vortices (including spots) showing up a lot on the boundaries. Here is a GIF made from a timelapse of Jupiter rotating as seen from Voyager I in the 1980s. The pictures are all taken at times when the Great Red Spot in the same orientation with respect to to the spacecraft, so you can see other features, which rotate at different speeds, change position with respect to the Great Red Spot.

Herding Cats

Jupiter’s great mass means that it often deflects smaller bodies in the solar system like comets and asteroids. Many comets have an orbital period that suggests that an encounter with Jupiter put the comet into that orbit in the first place. And Jupiter has even taken a bullet or two, most recently in 1995. The comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 was discovered having already broken into pieces thanks to tidal forces (yes, tidal forces show up again!) from Jupiter; it then was realized that Shoemaker Levy was going to impact Jupiter! What a spectacle! (And how good it was for us that it was Jupiter taking the brunt of that, not Earth!)

It wasn’t just a spectacle; the comet left “holes” in Jupiter’s atmosphere that allowed deeper material to come up to the surface where we could analyze the light with spectroscopes and learn more about Jupiter’s interior.

Jupiter is generally credited with reducing the amount of stuff that rains down on Earth from elsewhere in the Solar System.

History

Jupiter has been known since ancient times; it is generally the third brightest object in the night sky after the Moon and Venus. Since it is so bright and moves through the sky at a fairly stately pace, it got associated with the king of the gods, Zeus or in Latin, Jupiter.

It’s one of the ancient seven planets, each of which was associated with a metal, and each of which ended up associated with a day of the week. These are: Sun, gold, Sunday; Moon, silver, Monday; Mercury, mercury, Wednesday; Venus, copper, Friday; Mars, iron, Tuesday; Jupiter, tin, Thursday; and Saturn, lead, Saturday. And yes, the Sun and Moon were considered planets back then because they moved against the celestial sphere; the recent kerfuffle with Pluto is not the first time we’ve reclassified things. Many of our days of the week are named after Norse gods, but if you go to languages like Spanish, French or Italian, you’ll see the connections between days of the week and our planetary names (which, like those languages, are legacies of the Romans) more readily.

It’s a lucky coincidence that Jupiter turned out to be the king, not of the gods, but rather of the planets once we learned a lot more about it. This began mere months after we first turned telescopes to the sky; In 1610 Galileo noted four tiny “stars” near Jupiter, and could see the pattern change nightly, even over just a few hours. These turned out to be the four big moons of Jupiter (larger or comparable to our own moon).

The four big moons are to this day known as the Galilean moons, and you can spot them with binoculars. I said I’d cover them another time but there are a couple of points I want to make. First, when Galileo discovered them and realized they were orbiting Jupiter, that killed the centuries-old presumption that everything in the universe revolved around the Earth. (And if that wasn’t enough the phases of Venus put the final nail in the coffin, as they showed Venus revolved around the Sun.)

And our view of the universe was never the same again. That dinky telescope of Galileo’s (which is on display at a museum in Florence) is arguably one of the two most important telescopes in history for this reason. (The other being the 100 inch Hooker telescope that Hubble used.)

Second was their use in navigation. Galileo realized almost immediately that the moons’ motions were very regular; such that one could work up a time table and be able to tell absolute time with some accuracy here on Earth, provided you could see Jupiter and point a small telescope at it. Why was that a big deal? Because if you’re sailing a ship, the only way you can determine your longitude is by knowing what time it is in an absolute sense, or at least compared to some other location. For instance, if it’s noon in Greenwich, it’s about 7 AM in Washington DC….or perhaps some other spot in the middle of the ocean directly south of Washington DC. If you know both items of information; that the sun says it’s 7AM but it’s noon in Greenwich, England right now, you can figure out you are at 75 degrees west longitude. The problem was, they had no way of knowing what time it was in London at that same instant. We didn’t have anything like an accurate clock we could just set to London time (and never adjust it) to compare the local time to. But, we could look at Jupiter; if the moons were in the position for 3AM, you knew, regardless what time it was where you were at, that it was 3AM where the time tables were made. So you have a means of determining longitude.

But there was a fly in the ointment; it turns out that after painstakingly computing the table, it wouldn’t work well after a few months; the moons might get to their predicted position a bit early or a bit late. It turns out that the problem wasn’t with the computations, it was with the fact that sometimes Earth is a bit further from Jupiter, sometimes a bit closer, and so we were being thrown off by the light speed delay changing from one position to the other (light can take about 17 minutes to cross Earth’s orbit from one end to the other, and that’s about how much our distance to Jupiter varies). 17 minutes corresponds to about four degrees of longitude which in turn is 240 nautical miles if you’re near the equator. That’s a significant error!

We’ve also discovered that Jupiter has a very tenuous ring, a far cry from Saturn’s ring system, but there nonetheless.

Spacecraft

Jupiter is visited often by our spacecraft, not only for its own sake but because it’s a good waypoint for other missions; it’s often used for a gravity assist. The New Horizons probe to Pluto used a gravity assist from Jupiter to shorten its flight time by about five years (it could have got there without the assist, which in itself is remarkable).

The first probes were Pioneer 10 and 11 in 1973 and 1974. It was the Pioneer spacecraft that discovered Jupiter’s magnetosphere. (Pioneer 11 went on to Saturn). In 1979 Voyager 1 and 2 paid a visit, these spacecraft both went on to Saturn and one of them went on to Hugh Janus and Neptune.

Ulysses, which was a mission to study the sun, flew by Jupiter in 1992 and again in 2004. Why send a solar probe away from the sun to Jupiter? Because we wanted to put the probe in a highly inclined orbit so we could see the Sun’s north and south poles for the first time. The easiest way to do that was to send Ulysses past Jupiter’s north pole and let Jupiter bend the orbit into the new plane, some 80 degrees off from the main plane of the solar system. (Jupiter will bend your trajectory no matter what, but if we approach Jupiter so as to pass the pole, the trajectory will be bent outside of the plane of the planets’ orbits.) If we hadn’t done that we’d have needed a gigantic delta-V to cancel out Earth’s motion around the sun (which the spacecraft would “inherit”), then more to put the spacecraft into its new orbit around the sun. Ulysses took these opportunities to study Jupiter’s magnetosphere.

Cassini flew by in 2000, on its way to Saturn.

Flybys are great, but an orbiter is better. We sent the Galileo orbiter to Jupiter, with it arriving in 1995 and sending back data, including from close encounters with the four Galilean moons, until 2003. Galileo was well timed–when comet Shoemaker-Levy impacted Jupiter Galileo was approaching the system and took some amazing pictures of the aftermath of the event (the impacts were unfortunately on the far side). Galileo came with an atmospheric probe, too, that was dropped into Jupiter’s atmosphere on a suicide mission to return data for as long as it could withstand the rapidly-increasing pressure. In 2016, Juno, a European spacecraft, arrived at Jupiter, establishing itself in a highly elliptical and inclined orbit which means that once every orbit it gets very close to the clouds, and it passes over the poles, which otherwise we’d never see. Juno is still active.

Life?

Jupiter is sometimes cited as a possible location for life. In this case, since it’s essentially atmosphere down to depths where the pressure is crushing, the life forms are generally imagined as creatures with huge bladders filled with atmospheric gas…basically living hot air balloons. This idea got kicked around a lot, including by science fiction writers (like Arthur C. Clarke; a much more recent story told of Jovians’ reactions to Shoemaker-Levy 9).

All of this is complete speculation, of course, and I think as we’ve learned more about the rest of the solar system, we’ve come up with better candidates. But in the end we probably don’t know enough to even intelligently decide which scenario is most likely.