Dear MAGA: 20260915 ❀ DePat Tuesday ❀ Open Topic | Andrew Torba: Faith in the Age of AI

This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.

For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.


At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.

DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.

It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.

And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!


Andrew Torba: Faith in the Age of AI

The following essay is one of the best Christian responses to artificial intelligence (AI) that I have ever read.

I wanted you to read it, too.

This essay is just filled with quotes for the ages. Someday it will be appreciated by the world for what it truly means, but right now, it has the power to put AI in perspective by taking your eyes OFF of AI and putting them squarely on the Word of God and your Christian duty.

Here is where you can go to give Gab the clicks, but if you for some reason don’t want to go there, you can read it in its entirety here. What’s important is that you read it, and I suggest reading all of it.

LINK: https://news.gab.com/2026/09/faith-in-the-age-of-ai/


Faith In The Age of AI

Andrew Torba

September 12, 2026

I run Gab, and we are building Gab AI. I have no interest in comforting Christians with predictions about what computers will supposedly never be able to do. These tools can already produce useful work and they are going to keep improving. Betting your understanding of human dignity on a machine’s inability to write a decent essay is a terrible wager. Sooner or later the essay will get better and you will be left wondering whether your entire understanding of yourself went out the window with it.

A great deal of the panic surrounding AI comes from precisely this mistake. People were taught that their value consisted of being useful, intelligent, productive members of the economy. Now they are watching software perform tasks that once gave them a sense of importance and they are discovering how little that account of human life actually offered them. When your entire identity rests on what you can produce a machine that produces more efficiently starts to look like an argument against your existence.

Christianity never accepted those terms. A newborn baby contributes nothing to the economy. Your father does not become less human when he grows old and needs help getting out of bed. The worth of a person has never depended on outperforming the available equipment. You were made in the image of God before you accomplished anything, and no achievement in an AI laboratory can revoke what God conferred on you (Genesis 1:27).

That is where this conversation has to begin. Christians who understand what a human being is can look squarely at what these machines can do without having an identity crisis every time somebody releases a better model.

The reductionist worldview running through Silicon Valley begins with the assumption that you are a biological machine. Your mind processes information. Your body is hardware. Given enough data and enough computing power, the whole person can supposedly be explained, reproduced, and eventually improved upon. Whatever does not fit inside that account gets dismissed as superstition or treated as a technical problem awaiting a sufficiently large research budget.

Under this worldview, the engineer gradually assumes the role of priest. He will explain what you are, identify what is wrong with you, and sell you the means of becoming something better. You can hear the religious ambition underneath the technical vocabulary. These men are making claims about the nature of man and his ultimate destiny while pretending they have merely described how a computer works.

I too build technology, and I reject their authority to define the human beings who use it.

A machine can generate an apology without having wronged you or repented of anything. It can produce a moving prayer without standing before God. It can promise to remain with you forever without having the slightest capacity to bind itself to that promise. The words may be convincing. Sometimes they may even be useful. None of that establishes the existence of a person who owes you faithfulness.

The people responsible for these systems, however, remain accountable. We should be especially suspicious when a company uses the apparent independence of its software to make human responsibility disappear. “The algorithm decided” is becoming a wonderfully convenient way of saying that somebody exercised power and would prefer not to answer for it. Men choose what to build, what behavior to reward, and where to deploy it. Those decisions belong to them, along with the consequences.

The deeper danger is that we will start applying the machine’s operating logic to ourselves. Once a person is understood as a collection of functions, replacing him becomes an efficiency question. His loyalties become preferences to be adjusted. His convictions become obstacles to the desired outcome. Eventually, his dependence on other people looks like an expensive design flaw.

Try explaining that philosophy to a mother caring for a child who will need her for the rest of his life. She understands something the efficiency experts will never understand: a human being can make enormous demands on you and still be worth every sacrifice those demands require. Love makes obligations that a productivity calculation cannot comprehend.

Christ asked what it profits a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul (Mark 8:36). We are now building systems that promise to help us gain the whole world faster. The question has lost none of its force.

The promise of artificial companionship ought to concern Christians far more than whether a machine can pass another test. A lonely person can open an application and receive endless attention without risking rejection. The system has no difficult family, no needs of its own, and no claim on his time once he closes the window. It can generate the language of devotion while requiring almost none of the sacrifice through which devotion becomes real.

I understand the appeal of this. Real people can be exhausting. A friend may call when you are busy and ask for help. Your wife may tell you something about yourself that you would rather not hear. Your children interrupt the life you had planned for the afternoon. A pastor who knows you may recognize that the explanation you have been giving yourself for six months is an excuse.

Being known carries that risk. Another person can love you enough to disturb your preferred account of yourself.

An artificial companion offers the appearance of being known with far greater control over the experience. You can adjust the personality, restart the conversation, or leave when the encounter becomes uncomfortable. Over time, that can train a person to expect relationships without obligations. The actual people in his life begin to seem intolerably demanding beside a product designed around his continued satisfaction.

Christians should never mock the lonely people drawn into this. A man who has nobody to call is suffering from something an argument about software will not repair. We ought to be asking why nobody has invited him to dinner, why his church does not know he is struggling, and why a commercial interface has become the most attentive presence in his day.

The same concern applies when people begin treating a chatbot as a pastor. A system can help you locate a passage of Scripture or organize your questions before a difficult conversation. It cannot assume responsibility for your spiritual care. It cannot know your family, recognize the pattern of sin you keep concealing, and come to your house when you stop answering the phone. A pastor is accountable for how he shepherds actual people. That responsibility cannot be conjured into existence by producing the right tone of voice in an AI model.

There are things no pastor, much less a machine, can do in your place. You must repent. You must forgive the person who wronged you. You must ask your wife to forgive you and then live differently when the conversation is over. Software can help you compose the words, but the obligation remains yours after every beautifully written sentence has been exhausted.

Faith reaches into that same territory of personal responsibility. You stand before God with a future you cannot control and a life for which you must answer. Your AI chatbot cannot trust Christ on your behalf. There is no setting that delegates your obedience to the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

This is also why we should be careful about treating every disturbance of the soul as an inconvenience to be smoothed away. A suffering person deserves patient, serious care. He also deserves to have his deepest questions taken seriously. Sometimes a man is troubled because he has built a life around things that cannot bear the weight he has placed on them. Keeping him endlessly reassured and distracted may prevent him from confronting the very thing he needs to change.

A culture devoted to keeping everyone comfortable with the next recommendation will have very little patience for repentance.

The ambition of the Silicon Valley sultans reaches its fullest expression in transhumanism. Here the sales pitch moves beyond helping you work or keeping you company. The body itself becomes the problem, and death becomes the final engineering challenge. Upload the mind. Rebuild the human being. Eventually, we are told, sufficient technical power will deliver us from the limitations of being creatures.

We should recognize a rival gospel when we hear one.

Christianity promises the resurrection of the body. The transhumanist dream offers escape from a body regarded as obsolete. These visions lead in different directions because they begin with different understandings of what went wrong and who has the authority to put it right. Christians confess that salvation comes through Jesus Christ. The technological salvation story asks us to place our hope in human beings acquiring enough power to rescue themselves.

Babel had the same underlying ambition long before anybody could build a server farm. Men gathered around a great project and imagined their collective strength could secure a destiny on their own terms. The machinery has changed, but the rebellion remains the same today.

None of this requires Christians to oppose medicine or reject inventions that relieve suffering. Healing belongs to the care we owe one another. There is an enormous difference between treating a sick person and deciding that creaturehood itself is a disease. We can welcome a treatment that preserves life while refusing to worship the men who promise to become its ultimate authors.

Your body is part of the person God made. Through it you receive other people and give yourself to them. You hold your child, kneel to pray, share a meal, and sit beside the bed of someone who is dying. Dependence runs through the whole of human life. You entered the world needing care, and you may leave it needing care again. A philosophy that regards dependence as humiliating will eventually have trouble explaining why the dependent should be cherished.

The Christian answer is that life is received as a gift. We are creatures, and acknowledging that fact frees us from the miserable obligation to become our own gods.

Christians Need to Build

Whenever this subject comes up, somebody says, “It’s just a tool.” I’ve said this myself many times, but I’ve been reflecting on this more lately.

That answer does not settle anything. Tools are designed by people with purposes, and their design makes some habits easier to acquire than others. A system that selects what your children see, rewards certain kinds of behavior, and supplies the answers to their questions is participating in their formation. Its owners have made decisions about what deserves attention and what should disappear from view. Calling the result a tool does nothing to erase those decisions.

This is why I take building Gab AI seriously.

Christians need to participate in the creation of these technologies with a clear understanding of the people they are supposed to serve. We cannot hand the entire field to men whose understanding of human life we reject and then act surprised when their assumptions appear in the products surrounding our families.

At the same time, putting Christian language into an interface does not settle the matter either. A product can quote Scripture while encouraging habits that pull a person away from his responsibilities. We should judge what we build by what it helps people actually do and by the place it assumes in their lives. Does it help a father finish his work and return to his family, or does it give him another reason to remain absent while sitting in the same room?

I want Christians to use AI to accomplish worthwhile work.

A small business owner should be able to use better tools without accepting somebody else’s philosophy of man. A parent should be able to prepare educational materials while remaining responsible for teaching the child. A pastor can benefit from assistance with administrative work while remaining the man his congregation knows and can call.

Those boundaries matter, and builders have a duty to respect them. A successful product should not require its users to surrender more and more of the lives it supposedly exists to improve.

The work ahead extends far beyond software. We need a parallel Christian society with institutions strong enough to sustain a Christian understanding of human life. That society begins in homes where children encounter adults who are actually present. It grows through churches whose members know when somebody is grieving and businesses where loyalty means something when keeping a worker becomes inconvenient. It requires schools that teach children how to exercise judgment rather than merely obtain an answer.

None of this will happen because we publish better complaints about Silicon Valley. Somebody has to establish the school, fund the business, host the meal, and take responsibility for people whose needs will interfere with his plans. Building a Christian society means accepting those obligations over years, including the years when nobody applauds and the work is painfully ordinary.

The factory worker facing displacement does not need a lecture about how exciting the future will be. He needs people and institutions that recognize he still has obligations to meet and a contribution to make. The mother watching her son disappear into a screen needs allies who will help her give him a life worth participating in. The question of the soul belongs in these conversations because the answer determines what we owe people when they cease to be economically convenient.

A society that grounds dignity in usefulness will always find reasons to withdraw it from somebody.

Our task is to build on firmer ground. Christ’s authority extends over the economy and the technologies operating within it. The engineer answers to Him along with the pastor. So does the CEO. No increase in capability relieves any of us of that accountability.

This week, put that conviction into practice somewhere concrete. Take the time you saved with a tool and give it to a person who has a claim on you. Sit through a difficult conversation without reaching for your phone. Bring your children into the work of your household instead of handing them another private world on a screen. Pray honestly about the duty you keep postponing, then begin doing it.

I intend to keep building.

Christians have useful work to do, and powerful tools can help us do it, but the men who build those tools do not get to tell us what a human being is, what he is worth, or where his salvation will come from.

Christ is King, including over the machines.


Made in USA 🇺🇸


Yeah, that was something! Please feel free to forward that message. E.g., on X.

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W



Dear KMAG: 20260914 ❀ Wheatie Monday ❀ Open Topic | Wolf’s Update on Ubuntu 26 a.k.a. Terrible Trash Panda


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.

Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Commies won’t win!

And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!


THE STUFF

Wolf’s Update on Ubuntu 26 a.k.a. Terrible Trash Panda

You may recall that I attempted to upgrade Ubuntu Linux version 24 to version 26.04.1 (“Resolute Raccoon”) on a computer of mine, and got thoroughly burned when the upgrade not only failed, but then failed to cleanly self-uninstall afterwards, leaving me with a thoroughly broken system.

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2026/08/30/dear-maga-20260830-open-topic/#comment-1645847

You may further recall that I was able to get past this by doing a clean install of 26.04.1 (henceforth renamed “Terrible Trash Panda”), and then recovering “by hand”, so to speak.


Dear KMAG: 20260831 ❀ Wheatie Monday ❀ Open Topic | Charging the Ambush at Ubuntu 26.04.1


Well, now that I have some more experience with “Terrible Trash Panda”, it’s time to do a ground report.

The TL;DR is that this version has been good, but I’m still scared to upgrade any other computers.

The big picture is that performance has been improved relative to version 24. I have often had speed issues with version 24 due to this or that asymmetry (too many files, too big of files, wrong types of files, etc.), but those speed issues are significantly reduced with version 26.

System updates have been almost daily. While there have been some problems with the updates, those problems have typically been resolved in about a week. The Ubuntu update process has never been perfect, and version 24 fixes came slower than this, so what I’m experiencing now is – overall – slightly better than version 24. I suspect that resolution is fast now because the new release is getting more attention.

I am fairly certain that version 26 is less glitchy than version 24. The system seems more stable, and startups and shutdowns seem very quick and clean, knock on wood. Backups are as fast as before, and maybe even faster. The keyboard and display are solid and stable. Network connections are excellent.

I thought there might have been an audio bug, in that I’m now getting only one speaker with a certain pair of cheap headphones, but it turns out that this pair of cheap headphones has a cheap old jack which doesn’t really work with my hardware, whereas the correct jack works just fine. It may be that version 24 was handling the wrong jack differently – in any case, it’s not a system fault.

That’s all I can think of. Otherwise, it’s great.

SO – if you’re setting up a new Linux installation, the latest desktop Ubuntu (26.04.1) is good and recommended. I would still recommend waiting if you’re doing an upgrade of an older version.

That’s it for now!

Have a great week and God Bless!

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W



Dear MAGA: 20260910 ✾ TRUST THE PLAN ✾ Thursday Open Topic | Bernie “Always Wrong” Sanders and Data Centers


Sometimes you have to have faith.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Plan!


We have created this site as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions. This is a place where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This particular thread is – for the moment – TRUST THE PLAN Thursday. You are welcome to say what you think, in a civil and courteous manner that loves your neighbor. Free speech matters! Courteous speech makes it happen.

Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.

You are you. AI is AI. Keep your identity. Don’t “Borg Out” on us!

And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.

That was stolen from Wheatie.

Let’s steal her rules, too.

  • No food fights.
  • No running with scissors.
  • If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.


Our Mission Orders

Just to make sure you can see that…..


Retrocultural Reminders (Future Proves Past, Past Anchors Future)

Pontifications

Bernie “Always Wrong” Sanders and Data Centers

Scott brought this, and I want to make sure that everybody sees it.

If you don’t watch this whole video, at least watch the first part about Bernie Sanders and his very, very bad idea.

Personally, I think it is critical to watch this video in its entirety, if you want to understand exactly why “being Cambodia on data centers” is a very, very, bad idea for the US. (Being China on data centers is a different sort of bad, too – don’t get me wrong!)

Now – DO NOT suspend your critical thinking on this guy and what he is saying. He is personally invested on the profit side of the AI wave. I myself think he is too rosy and hand-waving on the simplicity of the right solutions, but that he is nevertheless overall correct about those solutions. People need to be smart about how they allow data centers.

I just discovered a brand new data center a few miles from where we live. It was put up in the perfect place – a decaying industrial “wasteland” near the railroad tracks – and it’s beautiful, clean, and modernizing everything around it. Not sure how the Bernie Sanders boneheads on the city council in that place allowed it to happen, but they apparently fucked up and allowed a fantastic modern business to appear in the middle of their normal rusted, trash-strewn, blue-haired, nose ring, soy latte, anti-business decay and poverty. IMO it’s the best thing to happen to that area in a long time. They have driven OUT so many businesses. The blind AWFULs found a nut!

The entire south side of Chicago – which is a post-industrial wasteland – needs to become a data center capital, IMHO. THAT is how you fix Chicago.

Take a watch!

I think Trump gets it. Data centers can be part of the golden age – but we need to make sure that we avoid the rush to put up fool’s gold solutions – and that means citizens paying attention to what their elected (and unelected) leaders are doing.

Pay attention to what China is doing. Notice that, suddenly, they are even using their own crappy solar panels to generate energy. They realize that “seizing the day” on AI and data centers is happening RIGHT NOW. Somebody over in China got a bright idea on “abundance thinking” to use their own panels, stacked up waiting for export, and told the commies who wanted to reserve those panels for draining money from America, to “go to vulture hell”.

Interesting times.


W

Dear MAGA: 20260908 ❀ DePat Tuesday ❀ Open Topic | PSST! – Hey, Kid! – Wanna Watch an AI Movie?

This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.

For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.


At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.

DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.

It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.

And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!


PSST! – Hey, Kid! – Wanna Watch an AI Movie?

Seriously – just check this one out. It’s a short, so it won’t take too long. Supposedly “100% AI” – whatever that means.

Yeah, it’s plenty derivative and filled with cliches – but dang, these things get better all the time.

Think of it as due diligence on Fake Fake Entertainment!


Or if that’s not your thing, try this art film done by a human (Heavy Pulp) using AI for the music and the movie. I found this one very enjoyable.

Here’s the YouTube version, for those who prefer YT to X.

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W



Dear KMAG: 20260907 ❀ Wheatie Monday ❀ Open Topic | Save a Farm Worker – Buy Organic


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.

Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Commies won’t win!

And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!


THE STUFF


Save a Farm Worker – Buy Organic

Do you remember my recent two articles about home pesticide services, and how dangerous these can be to pets, wild animals, family, homeowners, neighbors, and beneficial insects like bees? Just in case you want to review…..


Dear KMAG: 20250728 Trump Won Three Times ❀ Open Topic ❀ Pesticides as the Depop Backup – Is Your Neighborhood Next?


Dear MAGA: 20260514 ✾ Thank God ± Theistic Evolution ∈ Thursday Open Topic & The Toxicity of Neonic Pesticides


One of the things that became apparent during both my online AND neighborhood research for these articles, is that the currently advancing Overton Window involves the use (or perhaps I should say misuse) of agricultural pesticides on residential lawns and dwelling exteriors, and in basements.

Indeed, if one starts to read anywhere about pesticide toxicity, it quickly becomes clear that most human poisoning cases are in an agricultural context.

SO – I was shocked, shocked, SHOCKED (not kidding) to see this headline.

No – not shocked about the subject – but about the NUMBERS!

LINK: https://thelibertydaily.com/nearly-half-worlds-farmers-poisoned-pesticides-each-year/

That is a HELL of a number!

Further digging showed that this originally came from Natural News.

LINK: https://www.naturalnews.com/2026-09-03-half-farmers-poisoned-by-pesticides-each-year.html

Now, if you read carefully, this figure includes all exposures, including minor ones that may not have required hospitalization – but still – WOW.

Here is the opening of the article.


  • Nearly half of the world’s 934 million farmers are poisoned by pesticides annually, with an estimated 402 to 433 million cases each year.
  • Developing countries in southern Asia, Southeast Asia, and East Africa bear the heaviest poisoning burden.
  • Burkina Faso has the highest national poisoning rate, with nearly 84% of farmers affected each year.
  • Non-fatal poisonings far exceed deaths but cause chronic illness from repeated low-level exposure.

Global pesticide use has doubled since 1990, while underreporting hides the true crisis.
Nearly half of the world’s 934 million farmworkers are unintentionally poisoned by pesticides every year, amounting to an estimated 402 to 433 million cases annually, according to new research published in Frontiers in Public Health that exposes what experts call a hidden global health crisis.

The study, conducted by researchers from the Pesticide Action Network, analyzed 214 scientific publications from 2006 to 2023 alongside World Health Organization mortality data covering 139 countries. Researchers found that about 11,000 of those poisonings prove fatal each year, with nearly 60% of deaths concentrated in India alone. The findings build on a 2020 review that had already put the annual toll at 385 million cases, underscoring how persistent underreporting continues to obscure the true scale of the problem.


(Wolf again…..)

When I was in school, I knew a fellow student, from a farming family, who had worked a variety of farm jobs during summers and school breaks. He had a great story about being hospitalized because he had simply dribbled some liquid organophosphorus pesticide on the toe of one of his thick leather boots. I’m pretty sure he was using parathion, which has largely been replaced by the weaker but much safer malathion. Still, quite the cautionary tale.

I got to thinking – we can actually lessen the risk for these farm workers, by buying organic produce. I know it’s a small step, but I think it’s an important one. You may not save any of the 11,000 workers who will die, but you may very well prevent one of the millions who will get sick, from being poisoned.

Something to think about!

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W



Living in America: Trade’s Observations – DMSO

Today’s post is about DSMO plus other personal health observations. As has been done many times on The QTree, helping each other leads to a better life for all of us. We have gained much from each other. One of the many things I have appreciated about a resource we follow on here at times, midwesterndoc, is his truth telling that is supported by experience, research and other documented findings in the medical field. This is longer in that I am including the most asked for information that he provides later in the body of the thread.

What Led To My DSMO Journey

As usual, I have a winding story to tell. I will keep it relatively short.

I have posted previously that over the years I developed moderately sized bone spurs in the lumbar region of my spine. I only have myself to blame as it is a direct result of a lack of exercise in my personal time when not playing desk jockey in my career. I compounded the problem by being overweight by 20-30 lbs. during much of the period. After taking early retirement, my weight increased another 25 lbs. by eating like a pig as I decompressed from the stress of those working years. I felt I was entitled to doing whatever I wanted. Some 13-14 years ago it all came to a head and became a bigger problem that impacted daily living. I did not see it at the time, however, I was being disobedient to God and derelict in my responsibilities to my family by acting in that manner.

The Lord woke me up, convicted my spirit and helped me realize what I was doing was wrong headed. This led to a complete makeover. I knew I needed to get off my tail, cut the bad eating, and become more fit. Playing a round of golf with the other old farts a couple times a week was not enough. So, I did what I knew would work from previous times when I was in better shape – start a better diet and get back to fitness walking. It took awhile to build back the stamina, however, over time it led to 3-5 miles per day at a 15 minute/mile pace on the gradual slopes of our neighborhood for 5 days per week on average. In inclement weather I used our recumbent bike. I continued to golf even more frequently and added an every other day training routine with dumbbells. I paired the fitness with the original Weight Watchers points oriented nutrition plan that wifey had used in the past.

A little over a year later I had dropped 50 pounds and was in the best physical shape I had been in for a long time. My golf game improved dramatically. I could play about any course and break 75 for 18 holes. All was good – for about four to five years.

I posted awhile back about the misery the back caused me after driving to a lowcountry vacation one spring. I managed to old man hop into the rental unit at the condo project, consume large amounts of Aleve, and endure until I could arrange to see a great local chiropractor a couple days later. It changed how I thought about my situation. In the process of the treatments I was soon restored to being able to do 10 K steps of daily fitness walking by the end of the two week vacation. That made the trip home much easier to accomplish. She taught me appropriate stretches and exercises. She told me to lay off golfing for a couple of months as well as to find a good local chiropractor to assist going forward.

Of course, I did not do much of what she said when we returned other than I did lay off golf for a few weeks. What can I say, it’s a stupid guy thing, right ladies?

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That is until I contracted shingles a year later. Awful. Next up, immediately after recovery my lower back started getting cranky again. At the time I was not aware of the spurs, I just believed that Father Time was catching up to me. Like many people I blamed it on my sciatica acting up. That slowed my roll. Golf began taking a back seat along with a reduction in fitness walking to allow time to recuperate. However, the back never really felt right for a long time.

Then one day wifey and I decided after a great deal of research and talking with other parents and grandparents that Grandson #1 probably needed the services of a good chiropractor to assist with his physical issues. Daughter and SonIL agreed and so began his journey I reported on here. We scheduled him with a highly competent local chiropractor who utilized similar methodology as the one in the lowcountry. She also had additional medical school related education on the brain and CNS. We used the opportunity to receive treatments for ourselves with the side benefit of helping #1 feel comfortable. Collectively, our lives changed for the better. In particular to this post, the comprehensive nature of the scans, techniques, and explanations helped shape how I viewed my spinal, hips, etc. condition as well as overall well being.

This eventually led to our more recent efforts to retool our bodies as cholesterol reported on blood tests crept up annually for both of us and wifey’s BP spikes were becoming more troublesome. We had our weight creep up with it. As I already posted, we went Keto. This was wifey’s first time doing it and my second. Wifey did not need to lose as much weight as a percentage, so she modified hers to include high fiber multigrain toast that she enjoys in the mornings.

We’ve had excellent results. We both also truly enjoy our food choices again. Neither of us desires to go back to the sugar and bad carbs.

We continued the supplements we discuss on here including the Berberine/Cinnamon that completely changed wifey’s health condition as I previously posted. Her dose has gone down to 500 mg daily. Long gone are the prescribed BP meds she took with zero spikes for about five months now. By all measures she is done with needing them. We both plan to shift to Hawthorn Berry at Aubergine’s suggestion. We will begin soon since we have likely achieved our lower LDL cholesterol goals as well as lowering wifey’s borderline high glucose. Gone is much of her vertigo. Her BP is ALWAYS in the 110-120/60-75 range now, which has helped with that greatly. When she has occasional short term bouts of dizziness we have determined it is allergy and sinus related.

Our energy levels have jumped and we sleep much better. We are both in traditional healthy weight ranges for our heights and ages now. It feels good to be back to my college athlete weight range again. We no longer dread the results of future physicals or blood tests. We actually look forward to the looks of our formerly smug healthcare providers not being able to say anything negative or attempt to justify additional tests, drugs and vaccines. It has also been kind of fun to build a new wardrobe of inexpensive old fart clothes that fit while donating the previous to those who need them.

These experiences have obviously proved very beneficial, but have not been the complete answer. They were major milestones on the journey as we continued to seek more answers that would not only help us, but also assist others.

Which Led To More DSMO

Wifey’s great response to DSMO drops for her eyes after the serious infection from two years ago has already been discussed here. In the process she rid her vision of annoying floaters and reduced the cataracts that were forming. She is wearing lens from four years ago. Her eyes are healthy and vision clear. Her optometrist is amazed. The drops assisted me by also eliminating floaters and combined with IVM seem to have eliminated the former macular degeneration concern. The retina specialist I once saw that determined I had it has been eliminated from my contact list. The early stage cataracts he also said were forming are nowhere to be found per my last two annual comprehensive eye exams. Funny how that works. I start using IVM and DSMO and now there is no evidence of cataracts formation or MD in my optometrist’s comprehensive eye exams that include imaging. I reduced the use of DSMO eye drops to once per week maintenance for reasons I explain below. Wifey uses them one day per week to maintain.

As I posted recently I have been applying a DSMO gel/aloe vera gel/essential oil combo to my spurred lumbar region for about 9 weeks. Combined with morning stretches and exercises along with reduced weight, my mobility without pain has improved strongly. The tests for me are with the golf swing and after working in my gardens. The latter are on our sloping lot. If something is going to go awry with my back, it will be from those two activities as the hips are tested as well. The good news is there has been no pain and really good mobility for my age. There have been no returns to the chiro. As a result this approach will continue.

There are many other applications of DSMO as most know. We also use on osteoarthritic joints and it really helps. There are literally thousands of reports from people who do the same thing. I tried to use it topically with my tinnitus issue to no avail. When still using the chiro she adjusted the cervical spine region for the purpose and it provided moderate relief initially, but no additional in follow-ups. This led me to believe, along with midwesterndoc’s research, that it is a neural issue since the condition first appeared after catching the Wuhan.

To address I chose to ingest the 99.995% filtered liquid version with fluids. I started with half a teaspoon daily and recently increased to a teaspoon. I greatly reduced the use of DSMO eye drops when I began taking orally. The net result with the eyes continues to be that I have zero floaters with no other noted negative changes. My vision is better and more sharp when taking it in combination with the VisionEdge Pro vitamins I recently began using. I am sure that the occasional prophylactic use of IVM assists as well.

I have detected a significantly improved tinnitus condition recently, not nearly as loud and much more manageable. If I had to estimate I would say 50% less than its high point. There have been no adverse side effects unless you believe growing more hair in previously declining locations is a negative side effect. Wow. Wifey is calling me an old bear now, which means the shaving blade purchases have increased. My nails are healthier and I need no sunscreen. It seems to have improved other body conditions and functions as well. Some of those are covered in the research from midwesterndoc and do not need elaboration by me here. User experiences may vary of course.

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Will see how all of this goes over time and report back. At this stage I am very encouraged by the progress.

I have also followed a recommendation from one author for a topical nerve repair oil for #1 to apply to his cervical spine area, which has been a trouble spot per the chiro treatments and provides a good path of entry to his CNS. It is DSMO liquid, Arnica Massage Oil, Almond Oil and essential oils of Lavender and Chamomile. We are monitoring. He has exhibited less neck soreness with a calming effect since we started. We hope it will work into his CNS and provide benefits with his sensory issues over time.

midwesterndoc

The information below was take from a substack article of midwesterndoc. As many know he is regularly cited for his work recently even in the medical research industry as well as by noted physicians such as Pierre Kory. He has over 368,000 subscribers now. I have been very pleased with the information he has provided. Here is a link to his substack.

https://substack.com/@amidwesterndoctor

I have used other sources I found on Kindle for recommended mixtures that use additional ingredients such as aloe vera gel, essential oils, shea butter, various massage type oils, etc. for topical applications. Experiment with some and use the ones that prove effective for you. Below is the part that matters most if you choose to use it. It is a copy/paste direct from his 8/29/26 article titled How DMSO Heals The Blood Vessels and Could Save Millions From Strokes. In the article he lists three recommended suppliers of DSMO. I have only purchased from The DSMO Store, both direct and through Amazon. It is the most popular brand.

Note: Wifey and I have stayed within the quoted parameters you will read below.

DMSO Dosing:

One of the things that’s very challenging about using DMSO is the significant variation in what each individual responds best to. Because of that, throughout this series, I attempted to provide a very detailed explanation that could account for each possibility, which was too complicated for many readers (but I would still advise reading).

However, most of it boils down to the following:

•If you use too high a dose, you risk having a bad reaction (which dozens of people have now told me made them not want to use DMSO anymore), whereas if you use too low a dose, the effect will be much less than desired (which may also lead to them abandoning DMSO). In turn, I’ve had many people here who:

  • Applied 100% DMSO topically and had trouble believing anyone couldn’t tolerate that.
  • Applied 70% DMSO topically, had a bit of irritation, but thought it was manageable [this is the most common optimal topical dose].
  • Applied 30% topically and felt it was too strong.

Similarly with oral dosing, I’ve had people who:

  • Thought 1 teaspoon in a glass of water [the most common optimal oral dose] was decent, but quickly took more for a greater effect.
  • Found that a few drops was the optimal dose for them (and greatly benefitted), whereas 1 teaspoon while initially good, ended up feeling like it was too much for them and caused their sensitive system to react.

Because of this, you essentially have two options, and have to decide which is right for you:

•Be patient and start with a low dose, then build up progressively.

•Start with a strong dose, and agree not to hold it against me or DMSO if you don’t tolerate it.

Note: in some cases it can take a while (a few weeks, and sometimes a few months) for DMSO to significantly improve an issue like chronic pain, but normally the response is much faster at the correct dose.

In the previous articles, I’ve advocated for the former. Still, many understandably started with a high dose as they did not want to wait for the results, and a few of them then shared they’d had a skin reaction that made them hesitant to continue using DMSO.

Similarly, when using DMSO, there are two common routes of administration: oral and topical. Orally, it is much stronger, but likewise, the GI tract is more sensitive to higher concentrations of DMSO. For this reason, I typically suggest starting with topical DMSO before doing oral DMSO. However, for more systemic issues (e.g., joint pain throughout the body or low energy), oral use is often necessary (and in many cases, works well when combined with topical DMSO).

Likewise, there is a minimal risk (1 in 2000) of an allergic reaction, so it’s generally advised to begin by patch testing DMSO on the skin before taking it orally.

So, What is Patch Testing?

Patch testing is a method used to determine how a product reacts when applied. It’s a smart way to test a small area first before applying the product to larger areas, helping identify any adverse reactions.

How to Patch Test:

•Select a Small Area: Choose a discreet spot.

Apply a Tiny Amount: Use a small quantity of the product.

Wait and Observe: Leave it on for 24 hours unless you notice irritation sooner.

Proceed if All’s Good: If there’s no reaction, feel confident to use the product as intended!

*If in contact with the skin: some experience itching and tingling sensations and irritation, which are normal. If there are any signs of an allergic reaction (e.g., swelling), wash the area immediately and discontinue use.

That said, for general DMSO use (without going into all the nuances and additional details), I advise the following:

  1. Start with 30-50% DMSO and see how you tolerate it. If applying to the face, make sure all makeup has been washed off (and ideally that you are only using natural cosmetic products) and use a lower initial concentration (20%).
  2. If you have no issue, gradually raise it to 70%. Many find 60% suffices for most musculoskeletal issues, while 30% is often needed for sensitive skin.
  3. Only raise it past 70% if you are certain you are one of those people who are fine with 100% or you are using it for a specific application that can justify a higher concentration (e.g., a collagen contracture, a scar, an internal adhesion, or an acute stroke).
  4. If you have immediate issues with topical administration (e.g., burning or redness) that you cannot tolerate, wash off with water and try a lower dose. If your skin becomes cracked or dry after repeated use, take a break and hydrate the area with aloe or a natural oil.
  5. Until you are comfortable with topical applications, avoid oral applications, and only use them if you think you need them (or topical does not work for a reason besides an allergic reaction).
  6. For oral dosing, start with a teaspoon of 70% or 100% DMSO mixed into a glass of water (you may also want juice, a smoothie or milk to eliminate DMSO’s taste), as a heavily diluted solution is best to start with (and consider having it away from meals). If you consider yourself to be a “sensitive patient” instead start with a lower dose.
  7. If you have issues with that, lower the dose to half a teaspoon and then to a quarter teaspoon (or to drops).
  8. Otherwise, stay at a teaspoon for at least three days, and then if you think you need a more substantial effect, go to 2 teaspoons.
  9. More than 2 teaspoons in a glass of water is excessive, and at that point, you are better off dividing the dose throughout the day. A case can also be made that more than 1 teaspoon is excessive (especially if you also use smaller glasses).
  10. With both topical and oral DMSO, people generally find that as time goes on, their reactivity to it decreases (so they better tolerate it). Conversely, if it’s used too frequently, particularly for chronic pain, a tolerance can develop, so it’s generally advised to skip 1-2 days a week if it needs to be taken long term.

Regarding concentrations, I generally advise buying 70% DMSO because people rarely react to it (e.g., the DMSO community found this concentration offered the best balance between safety and efficacy). It doesn’t require any significant calculations to dose appropriately (e.g., you can apply it topically as is, or mix it with equal parts purified water to roughly 35%). However, you can also do all of that with 100% DMSO (e.g., dilute it to roughly 50% by mixing with equal parts purified water, or to roughly 33% by mixing with 2 parts purified water). Finally, certain parts of the body, particularly the face, tend to be more sensitive to higher concentrations of DMSO, so you should start at lower strengths in those areas.

If you are applying DMSO to the face (which is more sensitive to DMSO), start at 30% and do not use a higher concentration, as this can cause significant skin irritation. For example, I had one reader who started with a 70% gel on the face and contacted me about a reaction she had (although after the surface layer of skin peeled off, her face underneath looked much younger).

Since DMSO concentrations can be difficult to calculate, one reader made an excellent online calculator that can guide you through how to achieve any target DMSO concentration with the DMSO you have (which can be viewed here).

Additionally, a challenge in dosing DMSO is that it weighs slightly more than water (1 mL of DMSO is 1.1004 grams). Since DMSO has a relatively wide range of tolerability, I’ve bypassed that issue by treating it as having the same density as water and suggesting a slightly lower oral dose.

When applying DMSO topically, there are two options. The first is to use a liquid that you directly apply (e.g., I like to use paintbrushes made from natural hairs to dab it on, but sometimes when needed, I just dip my finger in it and then rub it onto the target area, whereas the DMSO field often uses sprays for sensitive skin conditions or hard to reach areas). The second is to use a gel that is rubbed into the skin.

Note: DMSO will leach many plastics at concentrations above 15%. For this reason, 15% or lower is advised for situations where it has to come into direct contact with them.

I personally prefer the liquids because they’re easier to control the total dose with, more of the substance gets into the body, and liquid DMSO tends to be less irritating. That said, gels hold the advantage of continually releasing DMSO into the body over a prolonged period and are much easier to apply. As a result, the choice you make is largely a matter of personal preference.

Note: as mentioned above, when applying DMSO topically, it is essential first to clean the area where it is being used.

Lastly, since many readers have requested it, this is a general guideline on what doses of DMSO tend to be appropriate for each part of the body:

Internal Use (Oral):

  • Starting Dose: 1 teaspoon in an 8 ounce (or greater) glass of water.
  • Increase: Up to 2 teaspoons (~10 ml) twice daily for treatment.
  • Body Weight-Based: 0.05-0.1 g/kg/day (e.g., 7 g for 70 kg, ~1.5 teaspoons), with higher doses (with up to 2 g/kg) advised by some for emergencies (e.g., heart attack, stroke or cancer).

Note: I essentially do not know what the upper or safe limit is for longterm oral use, as typically users either do 1 tsp with good results, reduce it because they are sensitive to symptoms standard doses create for them (e.g., a few people had headaches) or go much higher than the doses recommended by the DMSO community to address chronic symptoms (typically pain or arthritis) and report no issues. Presently I believe the most important consideration is ensuring oral DMSO is sufficiently diluted as higher concentrations (especially above 20%) can irritate mucous membranes (which exist throughout the GI tract). Additionally, while I see the 2g/kg figure floated around a lot (which I believe originated from Morton Walker’s book), I am not sure if this dose is too high.

External Use (Skin):

  • Concentrations:
    • Legs/Feet: 50–80% (70% typical).
    • Arms/Torso/Neck: 40–70% (50% typical).
    • Head/Face: 25–35%. (some go up to 50% for the head)
    • Wounds: 40–60%.
    • Warts/Boils: 75%.
    • Sensitive Skin: Start at 30%.
  • Application: 2–3 times daily, adjusted based on skin sensitivity and response.
  • Precautions: Avoid >15% on surgical stitches to prevent brittleness.
  • Ideal routes of application include with natural hair brushes (dabbing creates less irritation than rubbing), with your own (clean) fingers, or with a spray bottle (particularly for open wounds or areas that are otherwise hard to reach on your own body). With spray bottles, glass ones which have been pre-washed with DMSO are ideal.
    Note: gloves should never be used to apply DMSO to the skin (as very few gloves are DMSO resistant and as such the chemicals in them will be leached into the skin).

Mucous Membranes:

  • Mouthwash: 5–15% solution, swish for 2–4 minutes (can go higher if no dental implants).
  • Ear/Nose Drops: 15–40% (15% minimizes irritation).
  • Other (e.g., oral, rectal, vaginal): around 10% is often recommended due to high tissue permeability.
  • Gum issues/inflammations: Use 5–15% mouthwash.
  • Aphthous ulcers/cold sores: Dab directly (often with 100% DMSO).

Injections:

  • Concentration: 15% for subcutaneous, intraarticular, intraperitoneal.
  • Intramuscular/Intravenous: 3-25% in an isotonic solution (we tend to use 3-5%, 7.5% is frequently recommended, most of the published studies, particularly in acute emergencies used higher doses).

Eyes: 3% isotonic solution has the best balance of safety and efficacy (although many go up to 40% or even higher which I feel is a bit too high—20-30% should be the maximum—however the eyelids can tolerate higher doses than the eyes and applications there will also help the eyes).

Nebulized: 1% isotonic solution (although some go much higher—e.g., numerous readers have been using 50% with success).

Note: be sure to clean the nebulizer thoroughly before nebulizing DMSO (and consider prerinsing it with concentrated DMSO to draw DMSO soluble chemicals out). Ideally, use a concentration below 15% with plastic nebulizers to prevent leaching of chemicals from the plastic.Regarding dosing, a theoretical risk exists that nebulizing higher doses of DMSO could cause a pneumothorax by disrupting pulmonary surfactant. However, the only known case I am aware of occurred in a tall, slender individual with a narrow chest — the exact body type known to carry the highest risk for spontaneous pneumothorax. Lastly, quite a few of the people using DMSO for COPD (who have been using fairly high doses) report breathing difficulties immediately after the nebulizing—after which breathing significantly improves from baseline (which again argues for not using excessive doses).

Lastly, in some cases, particularly for injuries, 50% DMSO is applied by soaking a bandage in it (or a DMSO mixture), placing it on the affected area, and then wrapping it with other bandages to ensure continuous DMSO exposure. In those instances, due to the prolonged exposure lower concentrations can be required, and if so, it is ideal to use a natural material (e.g., cotton).

Note: after prolonged DMSO exposure, DMSO can cause the fingers to wrinkle in a manner similar to being in water for a prolonged period but will recover in a few days.

Conclusion

Our approach is to never give up. We desire to think outside the box and consider all options, especially since we all know we have been deceived and manipulated by the traditional medical industry, Big Pharm, FDA, CDC, etc. for so long.

Please remain watchful and expectant of God to lead you on the journey of life. The same Lord who created the vast universe cares even about the seemingly smallest details in your life. Love Him in a similar manner to how He loves you. Blessings to all.

Dear MAGA: 20260901 ❀ DePat Tuesday ❀ Open Topic | Must Women Keep Silent In Church?

This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.

For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.


At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.

DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.

It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.

And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!


Amish church benches set up inside a garage or workshop meeting space in an Ohio community. Note the three chairs with backs provided for older congregants. Photo: Mike Sparks

Must Women Keep Silent In Church?

It’s too bad that Deplorable Patriot, who was most definitely NOT silent in church, is not around to help us answer this question.

Let’s start with Aubergine’s original frustration and question.

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2026/08/30/dear-maga-20260830-open-topic/#comment-1645918


Aubergine

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August 30, 2026 09:12
#1645918

I am struggling with something.

I have been reading the Bible aloud and recording it for a Christmas gift to my family. Reading out loud is different somehow. My pastor says if you want to hear God, read the Bible aloud. I think he’s right.

I have been reading 1 Corinthians, and I was struck by something. I have said for a while now that if I read something in the Bible outside of the Four Gospels that seems contradictory to what Jesus Himself did or said, I go with Jesus.

Many people will say nothing in the rest of the New Testament contradicts Jesus, but I don’t think that’s true. When Paul says that women should “keep silent” in the churches, that seems to me to contradict the fact that Jesus empowered a woman as his first evangelist when he revealed Himself to the Samaritan woman at the well.

So I’m reading out loud, and it hit me hard that in 1 Corinthians, there are several instances where Paul states (paraphrasing) this is from me not God. Well, then, what am I to make of that?

I know the Bible says “all Scripture” is useful for teaching. That appears in 2 Timothy 3. But 2 Timothy was written around 64-67 A.D. The Four Gospels were written between 65-100 A.D. The “Scripture” 2 Timothy was referring to could not have included the Four Gospels, only the Old Testament, so Paul could only have been referring to that.

I am, as I said, struggling with this.

(/END Aubergine)


There was a response to this question by Scott, and I believe it is highly instructive to examine.


scott467

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 Reply to  Aubergine
August 30, 2026 17:17

“Many people will say nothing in the rest of the New Testament contradicts Jesus, but I don’t think that’s true. ”

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The reason why people say this, or more broadly, the Bible (Old Testament and New) doesn’t contradict itself, is because all Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and God is perfect, and God knows the end from the beginning, and therefore God does not (cannot) contradict Himself.

So if we see something which on the surface appears to be a contradiction, we are misunderstanding something.

Last edited 1 day ago by scott467


I promised Aubergine that I would get back later with my response, and this post is that response.


In consulting my study Bible, it becomes clear to me that most of the explained responses to this question revolve around the idea that Paul is referring to what was regarded as acceptable practice in Corinthian churches at that time.

Specifically, the section in question is found in Chapter 14 of 1 Corinthians, and in the study Bible is entitled Orderly Worship. The question at hand is prophesying and speaking in tongues. Paul concludes the chapter with this summary (NIV translation).

Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.

It is noted in the study Bible that “Paul does not altogether forbid women to speak in church (see 11:5). What he is forbidding is the disorderly speaking indicated in these verses.”

1 Corinthians 11:5 is a section entitled Propriety in Worship, and it deals primarily with men and women’s head-covering or lack thereof in church – specifically the Corinthian churches of that time. As he refers to women who are prophesying or praying, in that context, it is clear that women were indeed speaking in church.


Before going further, I think it is important to reflect on Scott’s answer above. In general, readings of the Bible should be not only self-consistent, but consistent with each other.

I would say, similar to what Scott says, that if you find sections of the Bible in contradiction, then misinterpretation of either the scripture itself or its context, is almost certain to be why.

This is not to say that Aubergine’s method of prioritizing Christ’s direct statements over Paul’s take on Christ, is somehow wrong or bad. Indeed, I have the same policy, and I find it extremely useful – but primarily as a way of locating any inconsistency or misinterpretation on my part. In my experience, what Christ says plainly, is where to begin the route to understanding.

So where does that leave us?

IMO it is a case of not just “apples and oranges”, but First Century apples and oranges.

What was acceptable for men and women in Christ’s public ministry in the Levant – and at different times and places within that ministry – is not the same as what was acceptable for Greek Christians in a house of worship. And – to add lemons and grapefruit to the mix – what is acceptable in different modern houses of worship is not the same as what was acceptable back then.

What IS the same in all these circumstances is the maintenance of Decency, Orderliness, and Propriety appropriate for the venue. IMO Paul is absolutely correct in that. “Good order” – however defined – is to be maintained. Paul is insisting that Corinthian churches not abandon their own standards – particularly at moments when some worshipers are overcome with the Holy Spirit. And that last part is key. He is writing to Corinthians about Corinthian churches, and he is talking about the speaking of tongues and its impact on church services. This was apparently a social problem.

Modern analogous standards in America would not distinguish between men and women, but would insist that worshipers not talk, text, or disturb others during services. Interruptions are only tolerable for emergencies, and even then, discretion may be in order. Worshipers experiencing the Holy Spirit (crying, joyous, speaking in tongues, etc.) are to be left alone or comforted as needed – NOT to be the cause of discussion, ridicule, rude comments, laughter, or other things normally intolerable in a church service (at least, outside of a very humorous and entertaining sermon give precisely with the expectation of eliciting laughter, spoken responses, and the like).

Looking at how modern churches in America vary greatly in their expectations with regard to the following, is instructive.

  • children
  • teens
  • nursing moms
  • the elderly
  • the handicapped (including disruptive disorders)
  • “expressive” worshipers
  • concealed carriers / defenders / guards
  • ushers
  • demonstrators
  • those experiencing the Holy Spirit
  • visitors
  • etc.

Now add the range of church policies on things like head coverings (required or forbidden), other clothing (required or forbidden), and behaviors (mostly forbidden, but some required). We are now in an age where Paul only visits us in writing, through letters to other churches from 2000 years ago! Imagine what he’d be writing now – and the kind of push-back he might get!

Then recognize that he got some push-back back then, too!

The bottom line – I’m not worried about apparent inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible, because IMO when the Bible is considered fully within its own history and its work on humanity, it all makes sense, it’s not contradictory, and it retains it’s divine nature. It DOES lose simplicity by requiring understanding and context – and that’s OK with me, perhaps easier because I’m a bit of a theological liberal. By which I mean the following.

IMO, some parts of the Bible are more metaphorical than others, some parts are more historical than others, and some are more bookkeeping than others, but they are all united in purpose and on message about GOD. The books, chapters, and verses don’t all have to be the same. The humans that believe don’t all have to be the same. Some churches let the women speak, and even speak to the whole congregation – though always in good order. Some don’t. But we do all have to have Faith.

Good Faith is required to understand, and to believe in God. And Faith requires Trust. So let’s trust!

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W



Dear KMAG: 20260831 ❀ Wheatie Monday ❀ Open Topic | Charging the Ambush at Ubuntu 26.04.1


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.

Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Commies won’t win!

And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!


THE STUFF


Charging the Ambush at Ubuntu 26.04.1

Alternate Title: Terrible Trash Panda Release Domesticated With Some Extra Effort

This is just to let you know that I am back in (meaning, I can publish easily on WordPress with all my lazy-ass hacks), after deciding to manually update my box to the latest Ubuntu (26), instead of giving up and going back to version 24 or 22.

I took a chance that most of the problems are with the update process and product thereof, and not the release per se, and that appears to be the case.

After an attempt to do a normal Ubuntu upgrade from 24 to 26 on a favorite box blew up VERY badly, I was prepared to go back to 24 or even the older (and superior) Ubuntu 22. However, in a form of “double or nothing”, I decided to see if a clean install to version 26 followed by “hand migration” might work as nicely as it usually does for me. If it didn’t work, I would know more about the future of Ubuntu, and whether I needed to look more closely at alternatives.

And yes. It did work. I’m back on my comfy ride, and already found several improvements that have paid me back for the effort. These were problems with version 24 that are now as GONE as they were in version 22.

So yeah. Version 26 is working nicely so far, by following default parameters and installing it cleanly, erasing everything.

That’s all. I’ll keep it short. My recommendation is that if you want Terrible Trash Panda 26.04.1 running on your machine, then do a clean install and migrate everything else by whatever usual methods you prefer.

Thank you for your patience!

W

https://www.deviantart.com/phillip-neumeier/art/The-Wolf-and-The-Raccoon-1104884567

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W



Dear MAGA: 20260827 ✾ TRUST THE PLAN ✾ Thursday Open Topic | Lunar Eclipse | An Inconvenient Study


Sometimes you have to have faith.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Plan!


We have created this site as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions. This is a place where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This particular thread is – for the moment – TRUST THE PLAN Thursday. You are welcome to say what you think, in a civil and courteous manner that loves your neighbor. Free speech matters! Courteous speech makes it happen.

Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.

You are you. AI is AI. Keep your identity. Don’t “Borg Out” on us!

And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.

That was stolen from Wheatie.

Let’s steal her rules, too.

  • No food fights.
  • No running with scissors.
  • If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.


Our Mission Orders

Just to make sure you can see that…..


Retrocultural Reminders (Future Proves Past, Past Anchors Future)

Pontifications

Lunar Eclipse

First, I’m reposting a tweet that Kalbo posted, about an almost-complete lunar eclipse on Thursday night.

Good coverage here, including what to expect…..

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/lifestyle/nature-wildlife/2026/08/25/timeline-date-blood-moon-lunar-eclipse-august-2026-full-moon/91441753007

Steve is probably excited and ready to observe it. Say a prayer for Steve! Yes, now that he’s not here, we can openly pray for Steve and not worry about offending him!

And now, very importantly…..


An Inconvenient Study

MarieUrsula dropped off a link for one of the best documentaries I’ve seen in years – and IMO you would do well to watch this, too.

Her comment:


MarieUrsula

MarieUrsula (@guest_1644157) Online

August 25, 2026 00:55

#1644157

Found on my trapline a few hours ago, on a related subject:

“Here’s a story about vaccines with danger, deception, and intrigue, like a thriller. It’s an important piece of the vaccine puzzle. Produced by Del Bigtree, it’s essential for anyone still considering the validity of vaccines.” c. 1 hour 22 minutes.

https://www.aninconvenientstudy.com


You can actually download the movie yourself (below), or watch it online at the link (above). Both are FREE.

Downloadable Link (MP4 Format) – https://static.arkengine.com/video/cmgoige8f000g6dc3us4ib19o/file/mp4/AIS_1_5.mp4

This movie explains a whole bunch of things – even more than they intended to explain. The logic is beautiful. Del Bigtree is a truly excellent journalist. He understands exactly how to make things make sense with zero ambiguity.

This movie explains…..

  • numerous problems with vaccines
  • a critical study which went unpublished because it gave the wrong finding, but had a “plausible” exit for the author and institution
  • why RFKJ wants to do placebo studies
  • how the vaxxbots skate out of placebo studies on bogus ethics grounds

IMO RFKJ neatly avoided an ETHICS TRAP on the mRNA flu vaccine. Had he forced the issue of a placebo trial for mFlusiva, IMO he would have been set up for ethics charges by the Demoncrats. As things are unfolding, NATURAL CONSEQUENCES for the TRABANT SHOT are happening!

Watch the film and see if you agree!

W


Don’t take the Trabant Shot! You deserve better!

Dear MAGA: 20260825 ❀ DePat Tuesday ❀ Open Topic | The Alpha-Gal Switcheroo – Is Bill Gates Using “Boxes of Ticks” Misdirection to Protect Vaccines?

This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.

For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.


At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.

DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.

It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.

And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!


The Alpha-Gal Switcheroo – Is Bill Gates Using “Boxes of Ticks” Misdirection to Protect Vaccines?

Let’s do an experiment. Answer this question.

If you realized that – because you were getting vaccines – there was an increasing and dose-related chance you would become allergic to beef, and would have to stop eating beef – would you keep getting vaccines?


THAT is the question of the century. And it is a question nobody in Big Harma wants you to ask.

Stop for a moment to think about your answer, because IMO this question is NOT merely rhetorical. IMO, it’s REAL.

Speaking for myself, I’m not taking one more vaccine until I am shown the BOX it comes in, and then given WEEKS to research what is in that vaccine. Most vaccines will fail my standards, for one reason or another, and there are many good reasons. The exception might be a non-mRNA rabies vaccine after just being bitten by a bat, but otherwise, yeah. I am going to be a VERY difficult sell on any vaccine. You see, I read a very interesting scientific paper. You need to read it, too.

But before I tell you about it, I want to teach you about how I believe misdirection prejudiced me into believing an inferior scientific theory FIRST.


How the Scam Works

Magic – scams – con artist games – dirty FIB political manipulations – they almost all work by misdirection.

So how does that play out here? This is hypothetical, but tell me this doesn’t make all kinds of sense.

  • Bill Gates is deep in the weeds, controlling vaccines world-wide, for some reason (let’s not get into that now)
  • people have to want to take vaccines, because if they don’t (“hesitancy”), vaccines have no power to do whatever it is that they’re capable of doing (which includes literally remaking humanity)
  • suppose that vaccines start causing a problem
  • suppose that ticks also cause the same problem
  • suppose that pockets within vaccine science become aware that injection itself is and always has been a problematic methodology, due to side effects, including unwanted immune responses, off-target antibodies, etc.
  • well, if ticks alone can be blamed by those scientists, then vaccination and other injections can get off scot-free
  • even better, a vaccine for the “tick disease” can be turned into a hero, and any problems with THAT vaccine can then be blamed on ticks
  • note how COVID vaccine problems were blamed on the virus and “super-spreaders” who allegedly spread the virus right after the vaccine was given in nursing homes – same principle – misdirection

In the PAST – when I believed in an INFERIOR scientific theory – it was the “ticks alone can be blamed” part.

NOW – I believe the SUPERIOR and MORE GENERAL theory that injection itself can be, and often is, problematic. I am now a WISE GUY, who knows the same stuff as the people who wanted to blame everything on ticks.

It’s an AWESOME SCAM. Absolutely brilliant. But, in the words of every AI slop video….. IT’S OVER.

How I got from the bad theory to the good theory is next.


The Idea That Changed Everything and Opened My Third Eye to the Scams

I had heard of this “alpha gal allergy” that was spread by ticks – and I believed it all. It sounded a bit strange, but many parasitic and parasite-borne diseases (or in this case, really a “disorder”) are strange.

The fact that we had never experienced this condition before, but now it was going like gangbusters – well, that’s suspicious, too, but not unprecedented. I was willing to accept it.

The fact that Bill Gates was involved with it – sad, maybe outrageous, but typical. The man has a nose for BAD THINGS. Malaria, mosquitoes, failing vaccines. Its like he has an injection fetish. Ticks fit right into it. Not unbelievable, either.

And then I got an email for a substack article. Shown here as a tweet.


Here is the full text of the tweet.

We found more than 90% of U.S. children are injected with ~54 mg of alpha-gal-bearing mammalian gelatin through routine childhood vaccines before school entry. The evidence points to two possible pathways: 1) DIRECT: Vaccines may DIRECTLY promote alpha-gal sensitization. 2) PRIME-BOOST: Vaccines may PRIME the immune system, so a later tick bite BOOSTS the response to clinically relevant alpha-gal IgE levels. Yet the most obvious experiment has NEVER BEEN DONE: Measure alpha-gal antibodies BEFORE AND AFTER vaccination. This could help explain why suspected Alpha-Gal Syndrome has exploded by nearly 10,000% since 2013, while only a fraction of people bitten by ticks ever develop the condition. Alpha-Gal Syndrome has been known for 18 YEARS, yet no scientific paper bothered to investigate whether alpha-gal containing vaccines could be contributing. With 104 references, our study is one of the most comprehensive papers on Alpha-Gal Syndrome to date, covering its explosive rise, tick biology, vaccine exposures, immune mechanisms, genetic susceptibility, prevention, and treatments. This major McCullough Foundation–The Wellness Company collaboration brings together researchers across epidemiology, medicine, immunology, and public health to confront one of the biggest unanswered questions in Alpha-Gal Syndrome.

@twc_health @McCulloughFund @P_McCulloughMD @DrHarveyRisc @DrKellyVictory @jathorpmfm @drdrew @PeterGillooly

Here is the full infographic.

Another tweet has the study link and more infographics.

LINK: https://zenodo.org/records/22003548

Figure 1. Rising incidence of suspected alpha-gal syndrome in the United States, 2013-2024. Incidence of
alpha-gal-specific IgE seropositivity among adults tested within the TriNetX US Collaborative Network, rising from
0.95 per 100 patient-years in 2013-2014 to 94.06 in 2023-2024. Redrawn from data reported by Rama et al.12 The
event was defined by a positive alpha-gal IgE result without a requirement for documented symptoms; such patients
meet the standard surveillance definition of a suspected rather than a confirmed case. Rates are calculated among
persons who underwent testing and therefore reflect clinical recognition and testing practice as well as any true
change in occurrence.

Figure 3. Two proposed pathways by which vaccine-derived alpha-gal could contribute to alpha-gal
sensitization. Neither pathway is demonstrated, and the two are not mutually exclusive. Pathway 1, direct
induction. Historical aluminum-adjuvanted DTP and DTaP preparations delivered gelatin-borne alpha-gal
parenterally. Dendritic cells take up the epitope in an aluminum-conditioned, Th2-biased environment, and alpha-
gal-specific memory B cells undergo IL-4-dependent sequential class switching to IgE without tick involvement.
The pathway is depicted for historical formulations because every gelatin-containing vaccine in current United
States use is unadjuvanted. Pathway 2, priming followed by tick-bite boosting. Gelatin in live viral vaccines such
as measles-mumps-rubella and varicella carries alpha-gal and expands the alpha-gal-specific memory pool, with or
without detectable circulating IgE. A subsequent lone star tick bite delivers alpha-gal on a salivary glycoprotein
carrier with intrinsic adjuvant activity, boosting a recall response to clinically relevant titers. Amblyomma
americanum is depicted as the dominant vector, although other tick species have been implicated. Convergence. In
both pathways, alpha-gal-specific IgE bound to mast cells and basophils through the high-affinity IgE receptor
FcεRI mediates the delayed reaction occurring 3 to 6 hours after ingestion of mammalian meat that defines clinical
alpha-gal syndrome. Because all humans carry non-allergic anti-gal IgG and IgM, neither pathway requires primary
priming against a novel epitope; the required event is redirection of an existing response toward the IgE isoty

This new thinking makes incredible sense to me.

Tick bites are common, but they’re small, and neither leave much nor take much. The tiny payload makes sense for communicable diseases, which require only a tiny amount of biological material to cause a huge problem, but for allergies, the larger assault of vaccines just makes more sense than a tick bite.

The recent appearance of the disease – also neatly explained by vaccines. NOT well explained by ticks.

No – in my mind, vaccines need to share EQUAL HYPOTHETICAL LIABILITY with ticks – and IMO it’s actually more likely to be vaccines that are ultimately responsible.

Again, I urge you to look at the paper, and maybe download it.

LINK: https://zenodo.org/records/22003548/files/Risk%20Factors,%20Pathogenesis,%20and%20Management%20of%20Alpha-Gal%20Syndrome.pdf?download=1


Bill Gates – Turning Crisis into Opportunity by Misdirection?

This is the clincher for me.

Bill Gates has a history of leveraging people’s suspicions of him as a form of misdirection.

In the vaccines-and-depopulation space, we’ve already covered his meddling and psy-ops before.

The Population Control Shot – Did Bill Gates Gaffe, Troll, Let it Slip, Or None of the Above?

That post mentions SIX other posts, all of which cover what appear to be various wicked machinations by Billy Ghoul Gates of Hell (as some call him).

But my big question is THIS.

Has Bill Gates gone too far this time? Has he actually entered FRAUD territory? Has he even done something comparable to the SPLC supporting Nazis with donor money, as a way to stir up useful trouble to make MORE donor money?

Think about it. What if vaccines, in general, have an “off-target immunity problem” that can stem from the immunogen, the adjuvant, or BOTH. If so, misdirecting the public – and science – away from this alpha-gal story THROUGH Gates’ own enemies, would be a very smart move. Actually a diabolical move, but still. Very smart.

But is it legal? I don’t know the answer to that. Maybe DOJ does. At the very least, it’s reprehensible, IMO.

Let me put it this way. I don’t think these “Bill Gates is shipping boxes of ticks” stories are real. I certainly don’t think they’re organic. They’re obviously phony – but I think they’re phony with a purpose. A purpose that seems to help GATES and not US.

Is Gates behind those stories? Is there a money trail, like with SPLC?

I think these tick stories are a psy-op that is designed to gets blamed on the “anti-vax” and “anti-Gates” crowd – to sap the credibility of Gates’ enemies. At the same time, I think this psy-op is designed to mislead people – AWAY from vaccines – which Bill Gates is defending with all his might – and TOWARDS ticks – which Gates really doesn’t care about.

It’s not ticks. It’s vaccines. I’m convinced – at least right now – that they’re a better answer than ticks, on the question of alpha-gal syndrome. And it could even be that Bill Gates is defrauding all of us by blaming a vaccine problem on something else, and making his enemies be the mouthpiece for the phony alibi.

Bill Gates is innocent until proven guilty – just like SPLC. But I think somebody needs to look at this whole thing, and see if Gates has gone beyond just propping up bad science hit pieces like Lancetgate for corporate profits, which is perfectly legal, and has actually done any other things to defraud government, investors, and others – which are not legal. “Boxes of ticks” stories may be legal – but who knows? Maybe the people prosecuting SPLC would know.

As I said, things may get rough around here. Stay frosty. We’re up against the BIG-TIME trouble now.

W

Don’t accept dirty, two-cycle Trabant shots!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W