DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250225 ❀ Tuesday Placeholder ❀ Get Smart – Buy a Globe!

We continue to mourn the untimely passing of our beloved compatriot DePat, known in real life as Susie Sampson, and also as author Patricia Holden.

Until we have a dedicated author for the Tuesday daily open thread, I will be posting “placeholders” like this one, which may or may not be spiced up with additional content.

Gudthots will take DePat’s old Thursday daily open thread.

Please notify me in advance if you would like to post anything in lieu of the Tuesday placeholder. We welcome all content – the topic doesn’t matter.

W



Get Smart – Buy a Globe!

When I was trying to get somebody to take DePat’s Tuesday open thread – meaning THIS thread – and there were no takers, I toyed with the idea of turning this open into a kind of comedy hour. The satire would be brutal – brutal enough that somebody would quickly decide to shut me up by volunteering to take the open. OR SO I HOPED!

I was going to call myself Flat Earth Wolf, and I planned to ferociously but facetiously advocate everything that most people here disagreed with, if not depise. Flat earth, no virus, deep state Trump, woke right – the worse, the better!

Yeah, at first it sounded kinda fun, but then I realized that it would just drive people away. And even I wouldn’t enjoy it.

SIGH.

Eventually, I just decided to use this open to post my own honest opinions about things. The beauty of that is, if somebody disagrees with me, they only have to volunteer to take the open to shut me up – but I don’t have to be funny or interesting, which is work.

I can just spout off and state my piece – and that is exactly what I’m going to do!

Now, as you have seen, I’ve spent a lot of time being “fair” to flat earth, by making sure people who want to post any side of any debate can do so here – and that is still happening. Most of the time, I’m encouraging people to post views that may oppose not only my own views, but everybody else’s, too.

But it’s time to be more….. how shall I say….. “complete” about things.

I try to be “nice” about a lot of “science” that “has issues”. I just try to smile and not pull out any deadly weapons of argumentation.

No serrated blades. No 100-round clips. No razor-studded baseball bats. Maybe a hanky. Yes. A perfumed hanky. Cough. Cough. Pardon me!

WELL – NOT TODAY, AND NOT RIGHT HERE, AND NOT RIGHT NOW.

¿Comprende?

Pardon me for just one moment. I’m gonna be tougher about science. Because we have to be tough. We are up against a very organized force.


The Yellow Berets, also known as Public Health Service trainees, were a group of physicians who participated in the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Associate Training Program during the Vietnam War era. They were often derogatorily referred to as “Yellow Berets” by supporters of the war who viewed them as avoiding military service.

LINK: https://www.malone.news/p/deconstructing-nih-cdc-and-fda-culture


We are up against some really bad people, who are fully prepared to tell any lie for their purposes. So this opposing army – OUR army – can’t tolerate weak, wrong, and misled science in the forward combat positions. SURE – if you want to work on the base back in safe territory, you can believe all the bad and broken science you want. But if you want to get out in front, you have to subject your own biases to the relentless sharpening forces of TRUTH – and in particular EVIDENCE.

Some things are very certain out in the front lines. One of them is that this planet is a sphere, roughly.

NOW – like most other professional scientists, I haz science skilz in a lot of different areas, because most true scientists are like that. We don’t turn off the science when we walk out of school or job – and our opinions can be particularly relevant in looking at other people’s “expert” stuff, and asking terrible, sharp, venomous questions that the “experts” in those areas are hiding from, or pretending don’t exist.

Much “organization” in current, problematic, sick, “mainstream” science is done to insulate compromised insiders from pesky intelligent outsiders.

Decorum, you know. That’s it. Decorum.

Well, too bad.

BUT we have to hold ourselves to the same revolutionary standards.

Yadig? Of course! What’s good for vaccines, is good for “no virus”, “flat earth”, and many other things.

Globe Earth Wolf has a recommendation that will ultimately test your faith in God, by beating on it. He’s gonna BEAT your armor until it is HARDER, and the first beat-down is that you need to buy an actual globe and STUDY IT.

They’re CHEAP AS DIRT. Most are made in CHYYYNA. But you still have to buy one. I don’t care where it’s made. BUY A GLOBE. And if you already have one, pull it out of the closet, attic or basement.

Buy one at a garage sale, if you have to.

I recommend buying a globe that is at least 12 inches in diameter, and is mounted so that the tilt of Earth’s axis relative to the sun is clearly demonstrable.

Blue oceans which are highly differentiated in color from the land masses are very helpful. Political boundaries are somewhat immaterial, although they do help you LOCATE things more quickly and precisely, and if they are current, the globe can be used to increase your current geopolitical understanding. On the other hand, a vintage globe can be useful for more historical understanding. In either case, I recommend blue oceans, because some vintage globes hide this physically useful truth, by making everything somewhat off-white, sepia and tan, simply to look good on furniture, as opposed to BEATING ON YOUR BRAIN, which is my purpose.

What I am doing is actually a stupid trick from science – a silly secret among the “top men”. And top women, but let’s not get TOO bogged down in DEI.

You see, MODELS – simple physical models – are behind so much of the best science and so many of the best scientists. I have watched this throughout my entire life, and it’s hilarious. Good models are what won Watson and Crick the Nobel Dynamite & Bankster Prize for DNA, and Doudna and Charpentier the same for CRISPR-Cas9. Good models are how all the best work on C60/Buckyballs/Fullerenes was done.

Good models are how stereochemistry was explained in the late 19th century. Good models are – over and over – how organic chemistry and then biochemistry were worked out in the 19th and 20th centuries.

When I went to school with a bunch of scary smart people, I quickly realized that I could use my cheap plastic molecular model set, which I was ironically forced to buy, but wisely chose to actually use, to find all sorts of science which had apparently evaded older students and even our professors for years. Simple, stupid, cheap, plastic and aluminum, “straws and jacks” (not even balls and sticks) was all it took to figure out realities that would ALWAYS show up in chemical behavior, spectroscopy, and quantum mechanical calculations.

I would SHOW PEOPLE this stuff with models – and you could always tell the winners from the losers by how fast they would start using their own “required but never used” model set to figure things out – by how carefully (or stupidly and carelessly) they would cut their little bonds – by how carefully or carelessly they would grab the right “jack” to get the right angles at the atoms – by how strongly they would reason past the limitations of the cheap models – and by how quickly they would spend some of their hard-earned but very limited cash to buy a SECOND or THIRD model set, to make even bigger and better models possible.

I am doing the exact same thing here, to make you smarter – to make YOU a winner.

Because we can’t have too much winning if you aren’t on the same page as Trump, as well as the historical patriots who really did walk this SPHERICAL planet and built this great civilization – and GOD – who made this WORKING BALL on which WORKING LIFE not only EXISTS but THRIVES and then hopefully carries on His PRO-LIFE MISSION of creating and persisting a life-filled and God-loving universe, which is something GOD WANTS BECAUSE IT’S GOOD.

Just my opinion?

Yeah. But still – buy a globe. You will learn so much from it.

I recommend keeping your globe in some place you visit regularly. I stand in front of my globe generally 2-4 times a day, and I probably toy with it at least daily. When we’re having science discussions here, especially after one of Steve’s science posts, I may spend a half hour with that globe.

What am I looking at?

I am looking at seasons. I’m looking at angles of the sun. I’m looking at hours of daylight, twilight, and darkness. But that’s just the beginning.

Most importantly, I’m looking at thousands of tiny details and saying “OH, THAT MAKES SENSE”. Airplane flights. Jet lag. Shipping routes. Planetary distances. Phone conversations. Satellites. “4 AM”. Russia, CHYYYNA, Japan. Burma Shave. TAIWAN. Why Hawaii has always been filled with trouble and bullshit. Look at your globe and every little thing starts to make sense.

This is very critical. When you have a real, true, winning solution in science, like a spherical planet, it just makes all the little stuff WORK. All the thousands of minor details WORK for any scientist who looks at the model, and kicks the tires. This is why Newton is not “replaced” by Einstein – he’s just being helped out around the edges where things get weird.

The problem with “Flat Earth” (and other things I’ll talk about later) is that one big mistake made from an emotionally attractive bias to the past tries (and fails) to upset all the little yet critical stuff other people are doing or have done – meaning millions of honest, good-faith observations. THEN, the same people who break all the little yet critical stuff for everybody else, when confronted, just throw back some non-working, “causes even more trouble”, evasion of an answer, and pretend that they answered the problem, when they didn’t. And that is exactly why nobody takes them seriously, and most people ignore them.

In science, you have to make something that lets OTHER PEOPLE explain or predict stuff on their own, successfully, nearly every time, to actually have a product that sells AND GETS RE-SOLD. Newton did that. Chemistry did that. Electromagnetism did that. Relativity did that. Quantum mechanics did that. Particle physics did that.

When you look at the globe, try to predict how long automobile trips and plane flights take. Look at where islands are. Look at where history happened. Look at where mankind started, wandered, and settled. Look at climate. Look at weather. Look at temperatures. Look at where those temperatures are on the globe.

Right there, the semi-frozen pizza stumbles hard, but the globe, with two poles on one axis, just works like crazy. Everything is nicely – no – perfectly explained – and it’s explained all together at the same time, by a very simple model.

Your actual globe will make you a solid and strong glober. And scientist. And lover of truth.

And then you will become even stronger, because – believe it or not – you will become stronger in FAITH. You will start to see how God makes stuff WORK – and I mean REALLY WORK – simply, powerfully, independently – and that pattern is something you can predict will show up again, and again, and again.

God makes stuff that WORKS. And KEEPS WORKING.

But I’m getting ahead of things.

So buy that globe, or get the old one out, and let’s talk about it. Make that globe WORK for you. Let it help you see the TRUTH.

And as it brings you closer to TRUTH, it will bring you closer to GOD.

W

“Is there anything as great as a Trump rally?”

TOPSHOT – US President Donald Trump holds a Make America Great Again rally as he campaigns at Orlando Sanford International Airport in Sanford, Florida, October 12, 2020. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)

Is It Wrong To Love AI-Generated Country Music?

I never realized that Drexler’s concept of “radical abundance” might generalize to include country music – and yet here we are.

First of all, I’m not even sure that “AI” is where most of this stuff comes from – but I’m pretty sure it is. It may be that some of this highly anonymous music is coming from real, unknown country artists – but I kind of doubt it. And even then, how would I know?

Maybe I’d better start at the beginning.

As I was preparing “future posts created out of copied placeholders” in my usual way, I did a particularly lazy search for country music videos, in a way that tends to pull back compilations of current country hits, but also tends to get a few single songs that I’ve never heard before. This has been a great way for me to discover “new” country music – which may even be old music that I simply missed on the terrible, local, “hot country” stations.

Well, I got the following “compilation” video, and gave it a listen. It’s about an hour and 45 minutes of mixed country songs.

Best new country songs? Sounds awesome! Kinda weird that no artist names were being buzzed at me, but whatever!

I loved the first song (click video above, entitled “Still The One I Love“, which somewhat matches the AI gal singer / guitar player shown, but which is obviously coming from some artist with whom I was not familiar.

Just listen to it! In my opinion, it’s a great song. Yes, very formula, but filled with so many great country tropes and hooks, earnestly performed. I was, like “yeah, what a great start to this compilation!”

As more and more of the songs played, the AI video become more and more out of sync with the music, but the quality of the songs never went down. I found myself enjoying each and every song. That was a little bit strange, too.

That’s when I started clicking around in the video. I wanted to find something – anything – that was more than just “familiar-sounding”. I wanted something that actually WAS familiar – something from an identifiable artist. Even better, somebody I had heard of.

Nothing. No identified artists. No identified songs – other than their names.

I picked one that sounded like it should be identifiable – “Forever In The Rain“. It had a slightly older feel. It might have been a classic I’d never heard of. I tried to search on the lyrics – but found nothing. Thus, it didn’t seem like an actual old classic. However, I WAS able to find it as a single video – and hopefully that would lead to the artist.

Nope. No artist. But it did lead to a bunch of similar songs, much like that compilation video.

I was even able to track these songs over to Apple Music. And as one might suspect, there was no identified artist on any of them.

https://music.apple.com/us/artist/sm-country-songs/1788315869

Here’s another one I investigated. And here is where I got some results, eventually.

This one clearly has an AI-generated “video” that goes with it.

The real question – was the music AI-generated, too? Well, two weeks after I first noticed this song, I also noticed that YouTube had now forced a DISCLAIMER onto the page.


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So – yeah. AI-generated.

I don’t care. I like it.

AI is nothing but human intelligence, mixed, swirled, bottled and re-sold.
AI songs are nothing but human music, mixed, swirled, bottled and re-sold.

It may be a brave new world, but it doesn’t have to be a bad new world.

I think this AI music is great. Even though it’s a kind of “novel average of human greatness”, it’s still great. And if making great music, in a kind of generic way, is now possible – well, so be it.

I am still going to love REAL HUMAN country music – and maybe even love it more, because of this. But I won’t deny liking the synthetic stuff, too. Machines just don’t scare me.

Maybe I was just raised that way!

W

“Where Love Stays”

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250128 ❀ Call for Authors ❀ Scientific Opinions on the Medical Case of Susie Sampson

A continuation of Dear DePat’s Tuesday Open Thread

A call for weekly open-thread authors on Tuesday and Thursday

A discussion of various pathological possibilities, including some new ones, and an explanation of why I lean toward particular theories


First of all, the boilerplate.

By reference, I call to incorporate the rules spoken of in any of Deplorable Patriot’s recent posts, such as her final one.


With that settled, I jump to the second item on the agenda.

A call for weekly open-thread authors on Tuesday and Thursday.

I know this seems abrupt, but DePat’s obituary has already published, and I’m already going to talk about even more sensitive topics now – by request – so I don’t feel too much guilt in making sure that DePat’s MISSION of keeping this site running is fully taken care of.

The best thing that we can do, in my opinion, to maintain Susie’s legacy in the MAGA world, is to keep all of her posts here (just under 1000 of them) online and searchable. SO – we need new authors for Tuesday and Thursday, to keep this site running.

Gudthots is thinking about taking over Thursday.

Do we have anybody else, who would like to do Tuesday? Which means that the post goes up Monday night, scheduled for one minute after midnight (I can help with this).

Just to be clear to potential authors, these daily threads are YOUR BABIES – meaning they don’t have to be anything like the way that DePat did them. In fact, it’s probably better not to. I invite new authors to come up with their own new styles.

We do have a very thin guideline post of basics in the sidebar, shown here:

We were actually more rigorous about format then, but it does help that daily open posts publish on the day listed in the title, and that the titles have a searchable format.

Anyway, if you are interested, just leave a comment.

If you are shy about saying something, you can always do “PMTW” (see “Contact”), commenting on this post, and then I can respond anonymously in public, although I recommend just being open.

Looking forward to somebody picking up DePat’s second sword.

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And now for the big item.

A discussion of various pathological possibilities, including some new ones, and an explanation of why I lean toward particular theories.

I begin by citing relevant portions of FG&C’s report on the “sudden and unexpected” passing of Susie, which he communicated to me privately.


7-8 weeks ago Susie attended a choir rehearsal, during which she had stood right next to a fellow choir member who she learned afterwards had been Covid vax-boosted for the 4th time that day. Perhaps she mentioned at some point in these pages that in the time since that night she believed she had contracted “long Covid”, experiencing physical weakness, insomnia, a persistent cough, and low appetite. She believed she had inhaled “spike proteins” shedding from the woman she stood next to that night at rehearsal, stating that had she known the woman had been so recently vaxxed she would never have gotten so close to her.

Recently, she had stated she was feeling better, the cough all but gone, and in the past week felt she had gotten over the insomnia hump and was getting good rest. I was optimistic. However, on Monday AM….inauguration day….her brother discovered her in her bedroom, unresponsive, after becoming concerned he had not heard her moving about and she had not come downstairs. Paramedics were subsequently unable to resuscitate her, and it is currently believed she suffered a heart attack and passed away in her sleep. After many attempts to reach her (we texted daily), her brother called me this afternoon with the news. I knew you would want to know as well.


I am going to tease this apart very gently, so that you can see all the possibilities that we’re actually dealing with.

Point 1 – “Shedding”

Now, if you were following along with DePat’s posts in recent weeks, then you realize that she was very convinced that she had been subject to shedding of [COVID-19 vaccine-created] spike protein.

The first problem there, is that very near the end, DePat realized that the vaccine-originated shedding would more likely have been the spike mRNA, not the spike protein.

Here is her comment, which was in fact her third-to-last, made on January 17, 2025.


https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/covid-19-vaccine-shedding-experiences “What We’ve Learned from Over a Thousand Vaccine Shedding Reports”, by A Midwestern Doctor, 7 January 2024 (detailing the phenomenon of COVID-19 “vaccine” shedding, and how such shedding affects people);

This one is particularly scary as it claims the shedding is due to mRNA and not the spike protein. Drat.

Does anyone have further evidence on this or a rebuttal? I always thought it was just the spike protein. So far, no heart issues or unexplained pain, true brain fog (I’m sleepy today as the insomnia is FINALLY subsiding. I slept a LOT in the last 24 hours.), or any of the other hard core stuff. A LOT of stiffness keeping warm, and the return of some relatively normal complaints for me in winter.

Fortunately, we haven’t given away the bulk of my mother’s tools she used for the last so many years of her life after the hip replacement, and subsequent ailments. They’ve come in handy. I have another friend who is helping me out in a lot of ways. The next week will be a challenge temperature wise and then I can at least sit in the front door and soak up radiant heat as the sun comes out. Less than a half hour is recommended.

I’ve decided to use this experience as part of writing about an elderly or disabled person. There’s too much challenge at this point to really articulate it, but this is for the birds even if the worst of it is fatigue.

And, yes, stay away from crowds and people you know who get boosters.


So – let me just spell this out. DePat realized that vaccine shedding could be the spike protein, but that it’s more likely (and more dangerously) to be the spike protein mRNA enclosed in lipid nanoparticles that can get into cells. It is by this mechanism that much more spike protein could be created in the body of the shedding recipient.

Not a pleasant thought.

Now – just a side note. DePat and I had discussed all this, many times, WAY BACK in late spring of 2021, so she knew this stuff years ago. Thus, I really believe that she had some brain fog recently. And we know from her comments – DePat understood that she had brain fog, too, despite the fact that it was interfering with her memory.

Years ago, she and I had speculated on the shedding of spike protein, to explain things which were being observed in people close to vaccine recipients. Unlike DePat, I was not a believer in “shedding”, but when Naomi Wolf started reporting observations consistent with some kind of shedding phenomenon, I came up with a scientifically solid explanation of how shed spike protein could actually cause such symptoms, if the spike protein had highly potent, oxytoxin-like pharmacological activities.

The idea of spike protein shedding seemed plausible AS IS, but when Pfizer’s own data, released to vaccine skeptics by the Japanese government, showed the vaccine itself persisting and migrating in test animals, it became clear that shedding of the VACCINE would be an even better explanation.

Which I posted about.

The point about snake venoms and spike protein is an ANALOGY – it’s not direct – but it’s very useful in understanding both potencies and pharmacological and pathological actions.

I want people to understand this. EVEN if it was just the spike protein being shed, if that protein is even slightly like snake venom in pathogenicity, then it behooves us to look at how snake venoms are dealt with in real life.

Specifically, when cages of venomous snakes are being cleaned, those present have to actually wear respirators. Not just masks – respirators. That is because the dust from dried snake venom in venomous snake cages can literally cause dangerous symptoms in people cleaning the cages.

SO – I want people to understand that DePat had a good theory here – namely, the theory that she got many lung-fulls of either spike protein, or (more dangerously) vaccine nanoparticles, from that vaccine-injected choirmate of hers.

According to this theory, not only did the “shed” vaccine cause typical vaccine-related symptoms – it potentially caused myocarditis, aortal embolism, blood clots, or any one of the many serious cardiovascular events that the vaccines are capable of causing.

This is actually a really reasonable theory.

However, it’s not the only one.


Point 2 – Nicotine

DePat’s last post indicates that she was continuing to use nicotine patches as an off-label way to “inhibit spike protein”. Here is that post.


I’m trying, be sure of that.

Others in my family aren’t. They think this will all go away just with ivermectin. I’m not done with the nicotine protocol yet.


OK – so what is this “nicotine protocol”?

The TL;DR is that one of the alternative medical treatments for “spike protein” / “long COVID” – and particularly “brain fog” – is medicinal nicotine, either as chewing gum, patches, or sublingual.

But before I get into this treatment, it’s helpful to see when and where DePat began investigating nicotine as a solution to her ailment. The entire conversation is very instructive, and begins here, where DePat began asking all of us for suggestions about treatment of her condition.

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2024/12/16/dear-kmag-20241216-trump-won-three-times-%e2%9d%80-open-topic/#comment-1383333

Okay, I need to pick a few brains.

After talking over symptoms with a friend who is in the same boat as many of us are with the COVID shots – she didn’t take them, but her husband did and she’s now suffering with the side effects despite all sorts of alternative treatment – I think whatever this is that I have is related to a choir member getting a booster last month and exposing me. The fatigue symptoms pretty much match what she had. Just unloading and loading the dishwasher is a challenge. Forget actual housework which desperately needs to be done. (When the kids get here on Saturday, I’m using them to deck the halls.) This crap is for real.

Other than making a run for Tennessee, which really isn’t that bad of a drive from here, for Ivermectin, any ideas? My friend ordered me a nebulizer and is willing to help me use it to break up biofilm, etc., but is there anything in anyone’s arsenal of natural remedies that may help? I had a talk with our Lord and Savior at Eucharistic Adoration today, and I’m hoping my Novena for wellness is doing some good, but, really, I have a lot to do and no energy to do it. Just about every old injury has flared up – especially in my torso which are pretty much all from singing – and some other things.

I just want and need this to go away.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

P.S. please pray for a cousin, A, and her husband, K, who are suddenly expecting identical twins over the summer. it’s a CLASSIC case of you make plans, God laughs. They are in their late thirties, and their toddler was born via c-section due to pre-eclampsia. Fortunately, her OB services are through a Vanderbilt extension, so we’re all hoping for the best.

P.P.S. Next week, we are going to have a house full of people, so the posts will be placeholders of a sort. I’m going to resurrect an old one and draft something new for the day after Christmas. Just a head’s up.


Now, at that time, all of us came in with a wide variety of suggestions, but one late response came from a hitherto lurking account, I Hate Acronyms, now registered as Sigma.


Very long time lurker here from the great Q purge OT. Please consider nicotine patches. The highest strength, cut into fourths. Apply one of the fourths to your skin, replacing with a fresh one daily. Do a search on Rumble for “nicotine and spike proteins”. “Nicotine vs nanotech”
If they are going to work, you should see results within days, if not hours. Non-addictive.


As I felt this was earnest and helpful advice, and that the nicotine method had solid science behind it, I approved the comment immediately, hoping it might help DePat.

I am sure that DePat thoroughly investigated this, and found all the same information that I did. If you dig deep enough and far enough on this, you will find all of the following.

  • there are valid scientific reasons to think nicotine might work as a treatment for “long COVID” / “long vax” / “spike protein”
  • there is a wide range of voices supporting treatment with nicotine
  • those voices include more “controversial” ones like Dr. Bryan Ardis and Dr. Tau Braun
  • they also include more widely respected ones like Dr. Peter McCullough
  • there are also discrediting connections to “nanomachines” and the like, which I ignore
  • for some people with long COVID, nicotine has helped when nothing else has worked

I advise just doing the recommended Rumble searches, to learn more.

For example, this video shows a variety of scientific papers which not only explain why nicotine affects spike protein-based symptoms, but also show demonstrated clinical benefit in actual patients.

LINK: https://rumble.com/v5wubbq-nicotine-protects-you-from-shedding.html

But now addressing a bigger question.

I do NOT suspect that nicotine poisoning was involved in DePat’s death. Toxic levels of nicotine result in very obvious symptoms (nausea, vomiting, tremors, vertigo, flushing, palpitations, etc.) that quickly make people back off on whatever means by which they were ingesting nicotine. I know, because the first cigar I ever smoked sent me into nicotine poisoning. People learn very quickly how to dose nicotine correctly.

DePat was actually getting some positive results with this method. More specifically, it was making her feel better. I personally think her efforts would have been more successful under a doctor’s supervision (preferably one connected to FLCCC or the like), but when I suggested “doctors and tests” to DePat, she was not a fan.


LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2025/01/14/dear-kag-20250114-open-thread/#comment-1395665

DEPAT: I’m wondering if some of this fatigue is coming from trying to stay warm in a drafty house.

Hmmm….

ME: That sounds very likely to me.

Your body basically sends your periphery into overdrive to stay warm. Long johns / thick leggings and a sweater indoors can be very helpful. Feeling warm indoors can stabilize you.

Also wondering if your doctor is running a yearly thyroid check (TSH) If the numbers are odd or marginal, you may have something going on there.

DEPAT: Doctor? I learned my lesson with conventional medicine a long time ago.

It just seems the bad days are colder.


LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2024/12/16/dear-kmag-20241216-trump-won-three-times-%e2%9d%80-open-topic/#comment-1383534

ME: Sounds a lot like COVID. Have you tested yourself at any point?

DEPAT: No. But I was exposed to two people who had their boosters over a month ago. The coughing fits started on the 17th last month. True weakness and needing to sit down for tasks the three days before Thanksgiving. I think I’m just about at the end.


In my opinion, DePat really needed a complete physical checkup, if only because it might have picked up any underlying conditions. But even more than that, there was a need for better diagnosis of what was ailing her. Simply assuming that it was vaccine shedding was risky, IMO.

Point 3 – COVID-19

Notice that I had asked DePat about COVID. The symptoms of being a “shedding recipient” should be almost the same as “long vax” – which should be very similar to the disease itself. Even more to the point, it is extremely easy to pick up COVID in a place like a choir. In fact, it only takes a much smaller dose of an infectious organism, than it does of a “shed vaccine”, to cause the exact same kind of problems that DePat was having.

DePat seemed very resistant to the idea that she might have had COVID or a similar ILI (influenza-like illness). However, to rule out an actual disease takes some effort. And to PREVENT disease takes even more.

Was she taking her temperature daily or twice daily? As far as I know, NO.
Was she taking ivermectin AT ALL, much less regularly? NO.
Was she taking vitamin D? Had she ever tested her levels of vitamin D? NO.
Was she taking enough zinc? I don’t think she was taking ANY zinc.

DePat’s situation was a lot like Wheatie’s. She KNEW – more or less – what sorts of things might be useful if she ever got COVID, but she had NOT prepared by having those things purchased, fully understood, and on hand, ready for trouble. Even more, she was not ready to DIAGNOSE COVID.

I KNOW that I have had COVID three times, because I’ve done the testing and clinical work to make absolutely firm diagnosis. I know that what I have right now is most certainly influenza, and NOT COVID.

And that brings me to my next point.

Point 4 – Influenza

I think it is VERY likely that DePat had the very nasty influenza that is going around right now, which singingsoul1 suffered from greatly, at almost the same time as DePat, and which I am suffering from at this very moment. As is my wife – so I am studying TWO cases, almost identical.

  • “feel bad”
  • aches and pains
  • persistent cough
  • no appetite
  • insomnia
  • chills
  • fatigue
  • sense of smell OK
  • stuffy sinuses and phlegm – mostly upper respiratory
  • “forget doing housework”
  • need a nebulizer (I use saline spray, myself)

Everything DePat was saying about what she was suffering, sounds like what I’m suffering right now. And, in fact, what MANY people are suffering right now.

And here’s the kicker. Influenza is a PRIME candidate for setting up a heart attack afterwards.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/can-the-flu-trigger-a-heart-attack

I know that many of you (like me) might suspect that this angle is pure post-clot-shot “explain away the vaccine heart attacks” bullshit, BUT the fact is, influenza has ALWAYS been notorious for killing old people, and heart attacks is one of the ways that it does it. Viral diseases – colds and flu – are also notorious as initiators of pericarditis and myocarditis. They didn’t have to make this shit up, to use it to deflect from their horrible vaccines.

As I love to say, there’s no cover like the truth.

Now – one might think DePat would have known if she had the flu, but this thing my wife and I have, has proven to be surprisingly low-fever – especially for my wife. Even after the fever has subsided, we still feel very ill. Were I not monitoring our temperatures every day, getting actual numbers, and signal over noise, it would have been easy to dismiss this thing as something other than influenza.

At numerous times during the last week, I have thought that maybe this was something other than influenza. But the reality keeps coming back, as I read more and more solid information about influenza and its treatment. What I have – what my wife has – what singingsoul had – and what DePat likely had – was a long, slow case of influenza, with a long recovery time.

Bear in mind that viral diseases often leave patients stuffy and suffering many symptoms for 60 days (2 months), long after the virus is gone. That fits perfectly with the timescale that DePat reported.

I think it is very critical to make a correct diagnosis, and to beware of reflexive “it’s the vaccine” thinking, when DISEASE never went away as a significant threat. Maybe even a MORE significant threat.

It’s entirely possible that DePat was exposed to “shed vaccine” – but I would argue that it’s more possible she was exposed to a nasty flu, didn’t have the right tools to diagnose or treat it, and damage by this flu ultimately led to a heart attack or stroke.

Either way, I now urge everybody – investigate treatments ahead of time. Don’t wait for being sick, because you won’t make it to the store – you won’t make that long trip to Tennessee – you won’t figure out which drug, where to get it, and how to take it.

Do all that ahead of time, if you want to live.

With that, I invite people to give me THEIR opinions. Feel free to disagree with me! After all, we have free speech back. THANK GOD!!!

Finally, this. Say a prayer for DePat and her family – grieve as you need, and you WILL need – but trust that God knows what God is doing, and seek comfort in that knowledge.

Trust in God. He is with us, and DePat is with Him.

All the best,

W


DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250123 ❀ In Highest Honor of Susie Sampson, Known to MAGA as Deplorable Patriot

It is with extreme sadness that I announce news, brought to us by DePat’s loving and faithful friend, For God & Country (FG&C).

Rather than simply approving FG&C’s comment, I decided to make it a full post. I will add my own comments afterward.


Dear Qtree,

I profoundly regret and sorrowfully bring you the sad news of our dear friend Susie “Depat” Sampson’s unexpected and sudden passing.

Susie was a fierce, albeit petite, Gen X MAGA warrior and patriot who dearly loved our American Republic. Highly intelligent, insightful, articulate, loyal, kind, and sweet are just a few of the accurate adjectives which describe this truly amazing, deeply committed and Christ-focused Christian lady.

A dedicated animal lover and dog owner, she was an alto singer by profession, performing her craft in the theatre as well as in various parish churches in the St. Louis area. She was also a blogger, self-published author, and unapologetic conservative.

7-8 weeks ago Susie attended a choir rehearsal, during which she had stood right next to a fellow choir member who she learned afterwards had been Covid vax-boosted for the 4th time that day. Perhaps she mentioned at some point in these pages that in the time since that night she believed she had contracted “long Covid”, experiencing physical weakness, insomnia, a persistent cough, and low appetite. She believed she had inhaled “spike proteins” shedding from the woman she stood next to that night at rehearsal, stating that had she known the woman had been so recently vaxxed she would never have gotten so close to her.

Recently, she had stated she was feeling better, the cough all but gone, and in the past week felt she had gotten over the insomnia hump and was getting good rest. I was optimistic. However, on Monday AM….inauguration day….her brother discovered her in her bedroom, unresponsive, after becoming concerned he had not heard her moving about and she had not come downstairs. Paramedics were subsequently unable to resuscitate her, and it is currently believed she suffered a heart attack and passed away in her sleep. After many attempts to reach her (we texted daily), her brother called me this afternoon with the news. I knew you would want to know as well.

I am aware of how this news will hit the Qtree community, and how loved and appreciated she was here. She loved being a part of this group as much as she loved the MAGA movement and President Trump. In particular, she was a longtime fan and admirer of the impossibly great “Gail Combs”, of whom we often laughed over the thought she must be a “deep MAGA” AI. 😁

It was through this very forum that I got to know her, and in the years after leaving here grew close with her, and I visited her in St. Louis many times. On her behalf, with complete confidence she would approve of this message below, let me say a few words for her to each of you…

My dear friends and fellow Qtree patriots,
We did it! Going all the way back these now many years to the time when most (if not all) of us originally came together at Conservative Treehouse, and later here at Qtree after Wolf created this space for those of us daring to believe in Q-Anon and subsequently being exiled from CTH for doing so, we have stood the test of time and proved resolute and firm with one another in our belief in God, his providence, and our beloved Republic.
We, along with tens of millions of our fellow patriots, and God’s blessings, have successfully taken on the almost impossible power and reach of the corrupt and evil globalist deep state, and we have once again elected our lion, President Donald J Trump to a historic and almost unprecedented non-concurrent term. I am confident that Trump 2.0 will prove as day is to night in comparison to his first term!
It has been the honor of a lifetime to share in this struggle with all of you; to pass through the many trials, uncertainties, set-backs, and victories together. We never gave up, never gave in, and never wavered. We ran the good race! It has been an incredible journey which we have chronicled together on these pages over all these many years.
I know that each of you will continue the good and holy fight, and I will be watching and praying for you, your individual and collective success, and the reestablishment of our Republic as the founder’s envisioned and ordained by God.
Do not be afraid, and never fear. Our sovereign Lord and Almighty God is firmly in control, and all is unfolding according to his design!
This is not “good-bye”, this is only a “see you later!”, and while parting is sorrowful, the joy of our reunion in the presence of our mighty and loving King will so overwhelm the sadness as to render it entirely moot and inconsequential.
I love you all, carry each of you in my heart, and reluctantly take my leave from you with this…
“The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.”
See you on the other side!
Susie


I will begin by thanking For God & Country for this desperately needed but sad news, as well as for his wonderful message from DePat, which I will admit made me cry.

As I know for certain that DePat’s final wish for me would be to remove FG&C from moderation, I will do that immediately after publishing this. If we cannot all lay down our swords in DePat’s honor, then we have no business being here.

I will add more information about DePat’s last comments and posts in the comments.

Thank you ALL for being good friends of Susie, and for your concern as she battled recent health issues, and then as she vanished from the site.

To say DePat will be greatly missed is an almost appalling understatement. She was, if not the heart and soul of this site, at least a huge portion of it. Her influence on me was as profound as any teacher I ever had – and I had some great ones.

There will be a time that I will fully discuss my scientific opinion about what happened to Susie. I may say some things now, but I will definitely say more later. There are things that MUST be said.

Finally, let me add this. Susie was one of the greatest defenders of the Catholic Church that I have ever known. While I do not consider myself to be Catholic, she made me a great ally of “The Church” – as she called it. She remains, in my opinion, one of the greatest servants of The Lord that I have ever had the honor of knowing.

In God I trust – that Susie is now exactly where God wants her, and where she wants to be.

¡Vaya con Dios, amiga!

W


Trump-Vance Inaugural Celebration and Reporting Thread

a.k.a. “The T47 Thread”

Greetings, my fellow QTreepers!

Wolf here, getting ready (shortly after the Wolf Moon + Mars) to head to Washington, DC for the Trump-Vance 2025 Inauguration, otherwise known by the shorthand “T47 Inaugural” – or just T47 for short.


TL;DR- if you’re not in the mood to celebrate, then you need a dose of Patriot Realism, to get over your Battered Patriot Syndrome, which we are all suffering. Go check out TradeBait’s post HERE, and wake up to LIBERTY!


OK – now the long version.

I had long told myself that I would be going to Trump’s second inauguration, as I had been to the first one in 2017, and really enjoyed it. With the stolen election of 2020, I ended up going to J6 instead of J20 in 2021, and – well – that was interesting, too.

When Trump managed to beat the cheat on 5 November 2024, I reconfirmed my commitment to attend the T47 inauguration. However, as the time approached, a combination of finicky health and iffy finances had me on the edge of saying “no mas!” Then, when I looked at hotel prices – roughly three times what I had paid in 2017 – I simply couldn’t afford it. I decided not to bother. I would watch the inauguration on TV with all of you, online at The Q Tree.

And it would have been great fun, too. But sitting it out was not to be.

As I began preparing future posts, in my usual “modified placeholder” manner, I wrote a very special and heartfelt post for the January 20th Inauguration Day open thread, as the 2025 Inauguration happens to fall on my usual Monday daily thread. You will see that special post on Monday.

The thing is, some friends of ours apparently saw that post, too. They let me know they were watching, much like they let Wheatie know, back in 2019. If you recall that incident…..

So yeah – that got my attention. All very deniable – but all very convincing.

A lot has changed since 2021, including the passing of Wheatie, whose final battle began late in 2021 and ended in spring of 2022. I think Wheatie was very disappointed to know that she would never see Trump’s second term. Realizing this, and knowing that our old friends from T45 were still keeping an eye on us, I began to change my mind about going to the Inauguration. Others were keeping the faith – why not me? Yes, I’m growing old and tired, but I’ve still got some sense of duty in me.

And then an invitation came. Not only was I invited – my wife was, too. Yeah, it wasn’t one of the gold-encrusted invitations to sit up on the balcony with all the important stiffs like Al Gore and Tim Walz, but it was still an official invitation, and it was made in the name of our once-again Commander In Chief.

That was it. I told my wife we were going. And when I looked at hotel prices again, some of them actually looked reasonable. With a little bit of shopping, it was going to happen.

So, as you read this, during the next few days, I may be preparing to depart for Washington, DC, am already on my way there, or am there as you read this. I will put this up as a sticky thread, so it’s easy for me to find, as well as others who may stumble upon the site. I am hoping to post journalistic updates from the inauguration. Yes, I’m putting my journalist cap on, which may or may not come in Dark MAGA!!!

This thread will be a place to post about all events connected to the T47 Inauguration – including the MAGA Rally on January 19, the Inauguration Festivities and Swearing-In on January 20, and the Inaugural Parade down Pennsylvania Avenue, shortly after the Swearing-In.

There is a great website connected to the Inauguration.

https://t47inaugural.com

I will go over some of the important information on the site, below. In the meanwhile, I simply want to give my best wishes to all you QTreepers, and to all our friends and allies out there.

Are you ready to Make America Great Again? I AM!

W


T47 Topic – Weather

Scratch all of the following section – the inauguration has WISELY been moved indoors.

I will keep the old text for historic interest, but you can skip ahead to the comments now.

W


Right now, things are looking VERY cold in DC for the inauguration. Part of me wonders whether this is an anti-Trump psy-op by Club Climate Change, but I have seen nothing to convince me that such a thing is happening.

I’m not sure if this incredibly cold inaugural weather should be classified as something like JUSTICE BEING A DISH BEST SERVED COLD, but in any case, I am expecting things to be frigid. Even Team Trump is advising weather sense.


Guest Attire

Please dress warmly and wear comfortable shoes. Washington D.C is expecting cold temperatures. Attendees will have limited access to heated tents on a first-come, first-served basis.


I have been to an inauguration before, when the weather was much better (40s and 50s, IIRC) than is currently expected this year (teens and 20s for Inauguration Day). Dressing appropriately makes the whole thing more enjoyable, I can assure you. Last time, as I layered down from a quality trench coat, I was dressed well enough to look good on TV, if I was interviewed by anybody (I think I did talk to a print journalist or political blogger of some kind, IIRC).

This time, for me, “stylish” will be SKIWEAR and basically outdoor winter fashion. In fact, I am advising all others who are going, to DRESS FOR THE SKI LIFTS.

North Face and Columbia – not Dior and Prada.

Why do I say that? Because people who have seats will be sitting for THREE TO SIX HOURS OR LONGER in temperatures in the upper teens to low 20s.

Cross-reference weather with logistics, and it’s time to get VERY REAL.

MALL GUIDANCE

People need to dress to be sitting comfortably in what are normally wind chill conditions on a ski lifts, where one cannot “walk around to warm up” or otherwise fight hypothermia.

Teens and twenties are January skiing conditions. Get real, people!

Last time, I was running, walking, and standing near the Washington Memorial, thanks to sabotage by the Obama administration, which forced as many people as they could off the main mall, back to the far side of the Washington Memorial, where they would not appear in aerial photos which begin at the Capitol Building.

It was a sneaky move, slow-walking admissions to the mall, while letting people in where they could not be seen. I would not put this past the Biden administration. Note what is being said about arrival times.


Guest Arrival Information

The security line to enter the National Mall will begin to form early. Driving/parking is strongly discouraged, please utilize the Washington Metro System (WMATA) to arrive/depart the mall.

U.S.S.S. guest screening will open at 6:00 AM. The inaugural program will start at 9:30 AM; the Swearing-In Ceremony will start at 11:00 AM. To guarantee a spot, please arrive no later than 9:00 AM.


There WILL be food and drink concessions (see below), but the bottom line is that some people will be on the site from 6 AM until 12:30 AM, after the swearing-in.

If the temperatures are actually that cold, it will be like being STUCK ON A SKI LIFT.

Dress warmly. Your goal is to be TOASTY WARM WHILE SITTING STILL.

Now – here is what the situation will actually look like, logistically.

There is seating in the first FIVE of the EIGHT mall blocks. There are also plenty of rest rooms, warming tents, food tents, and medical stations.

Once you’re in the mall, it’s basically like a Trump rally. But if you want to get a seat, you’ve got to get there early. And it will be EVEN COLDER at 6:00 AM on Monday, if the weather predictions are correct.

Thankfully, the MAGA RALLY on January 19 will have better weather, and will be indoors to boot. I view it as good preparation for Inauguration Day. Temperatures are predicted to drop all day, and are looking to be thirtyish by the rally time. There is also a high chance of precipitation, which is probably snow, but could be rain. I will be prepared for either one.

BOY SCOUT MOTTO – BE PREPARED


So – it’s time to get this thing scheduled. Talk to you later!!!

W


Weather Update

Massive change of plans is underway. Some links.

Trump Inauguration T47 Moved Indoors

T47 Official FAQs, Including New Indoor Inauguration

https://t47inaugural.com/faq

Metro Travel For Inauguration

https://www.wmata.com/about/news/Inauguration-service-information-and-travel-tips-Metro-ready-for-Inauguration-crowds-will-open-at-4-am.cfm

CTH Coverage

My Cancer Journey (by Linda) and 20241204 Open Thread

by Linda of The Q Tree (a.k.a. Linda from Oregon)

A Complete Description of an Alternative Chemotherapeutic Approach Which Quickly Led to 100% Cancer Freedom


Foreword by WOLF MOON

Most of the regular denizens of The Q Tree are familiar with Linda’s journey through the terrifying uncertainty of a cancer diagnosis and treatment during the last year. That story, spread out over many daily threads here on the website, is incredibly hard to stitch together, if you have not been following along.

Just a few days ago, we were blessed with amazing news. While all of us were thrilled by the good news, I had to admit that I had already forgotten very important details of the original diagnosis. Some of it may have been mixing things up with my wife’s case, or that of a friend’s wife, but still – it wasn’t a great moment in the history of my memory.

Rather than asking Linda a million questions, and surely having others do the same, I had an atypically inspired idea – why not ask Linda to re-tell the whole story as one coherent statement, and better still, tell us with her current perspective? Wonderfully, Linda agreed to do just that.

That’s all I’m saying. Here is Linda, in her own words. I have not changed a thing.


MY CANCER JOURNEY

As many of you know, I was diagnosed with breast cancer last August. Looking back, it was only by the hand of God that it was found at all. For a good part of my adult life, I’ve avoided going to doctors for anything but what I can’t find a way to treat myself. I found out a long time ago in dealing with my hypothyroidism that most doctors are not going to deviate from their strict standard of care, which means Big Pharma drugs, whether they really help or not. And I try to avoid Big Pharma drugs if at all possible.

So I wouldn’t have gone to the doctor at all except I had a pre-cancerous lesion that I wanted to get zapped. I get my health care from the VA and they actually now have a primary care clinic in Salem. They assigned me a primary care NP and gave me an appointment. She wasn’t about to just zap the lesion but also gave me a complete physical along with labs and insisted I get a mammogram.

I drug my feet for a couple of weeks, but finally made the appointment and thankfully got it done. They found a small mass in my left breast and then did a needle biopsy using ultrasound a week later. They found that I had ER+ PR+ HER2- breast cancer. ER+ and PR+ mean that my cancer has estrogen and progesterone receptors. HER2- is a less aggressive cancer than HER2+, so I caught a break there.

At that point, I started reading everything I could find on fenbendazole. I heard it mentioned here several times on the Q Tree as a cancer treatment, but didn’t know where to get it, how much to take, or what to take it with. I finally found the Fenbendazole Cancer Support Group on Facebook that gave me most of the answers that I was looking for, a protocol I could use and adjust for my own situation, and a lot of support from others fighting cancer. This is the group:

Fenbendazole Cancer Support Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/476254899648556/

It’s a private group. But anyone who has cancer or is the care giver of someone with cancer can join. There are a lot of health care professionals in the group who are very knowledgeable. They have a suggested protocol that anyone can download and use. Most people take that protocol and adjust it for their own needs. I doubt that any 2 people in that group are using the exact same protocol. One thing to keep in mind is that the protocol doesn’t mention Ivermectin. During COVID, Facebook was closing down groups and banning people for even mentioning Ivermectin, so they didn’t include it or allow people to talk about it until about the last year when that changed. But most people in the group are taking 24 mg of Ivermectin a day as part of their protocol.

Ivermectin is super important because it actually kills cancer stem cells in addition to all the different ways it fights cancer. Chemotherapy and radiation therapy don’t kill cancer stem cells, which is one reason why cancers come out of remission.

The whole point of having a cocktail of supplements taken at different times of the day is that you need anti-cancer compounds circulating in your body 24/7. It’s really amazing to me how many foods and supplements actually have anti-cancer qualities. And that’s important because cancer has a lot of different pathways to get fuel for growth and different signalling mechanisms to spread and metastasize. Some supplements attack one or two of those pathways, but you need different ones to attack other pathways. Jane McClelland wrote a book called “How to Starve Cancer” in which she identified all the pathways cancer uses to grow and to spread and then found old drugs that could be used to block all those pathways. She cured her own cancer that way. The problem for most of us, though, is getting a doctor to prescribe all those old, out-of-patent drugs! Using supplements that do much the same thing instead of Big Pharma drugs is the answer.

When I first started, I bought most of what was on their protocol. I also tried a lot of different supplements that people suggested and found worked well for them. Many people swear by soursop tea and Esiac tea. I’m not much of a tea drinker, but I do drink soursop tea once in awhile. Another was frankincense (Boswellia). It has anti-inflammatory properties and anti-cancer properties as well. I was really excited about trying it, so I bought a couple of bottles only to find out after a week that it caused unbearable itching all over my body. Needless to say, I dropped that one! The point is to use what works best for you and also to make sure there are no interactions with any drugs you may be taking.

This is the protocol I finally settled on:

1 Hour Before Breakfast:
Hi-Dose Serrapeptase – 120,000 spu

1/2 Hour Before Breakfast:
Tudca – 1,000 mg
Burdock Root – 460 mg
Berberine – 600 mg

After Breakfast:
Fenbendazole – 750 mg
Ivermectin – 12 mg
Melatonin – 200 mg
Fish Oil – 3,000 mg
Curcumin – 600 mg
CBD Oil – 50 mg
Quercetin – 400-500 mg
Reishi Mushrooms – 500 mg
Maitake Mushrooms – 500 mg
Turkey Tail Mushrooms – 500 mg
*DIM – 200 mg

After Lunch:
CBD Oil – 50 mg
Melatonin – 200 mg
*Iodine – 50 mg (8 drops of Lugols 5%)
*ATP Cofactors (B2 and B3) –

1/2 Hour Before Dinner:
Tudca – 1,000 mg
Burdock Root – 460 mg
Berberine – 600 mg

After Dinner:
Fenbendazole – 750 mg
Ivermectin – 12 mg
Melatonin – 200 mg
Fish Oil – 3,000 mg
Curcumin – 600 mg
CBD Oil – 50 mg
Quercetin – 400-500 mg
Reishi Mushrooms – 500 mg
Maitake Mushrooms – 500 mg
Turkey Tail Mushrooms – 500 mg
*DIM – 200 mg

2 Hours After Dinner:
D3 – 5,000 mg (I drop that to 2,000 in the summer)
Magnesium – 400 mg
Melatonin – 400 mg

Before Bed:
Hi-Dose Serrapeptase – 120,000 spu

That probably sounds like a lot of supplements. It did to me, even though I already took a lot of vitamins and supplements. And fenbendazole, ivermectin, and supplements can be expensive to buy month after month after month. But I managed it on my social security check. A number of people in my cancer group who had undergone more traditional treatments ended up paying thousands of dollars their health insurance didn’t cover. So maybe I actually took the cheaper route.

But for someone on a really limited budget, I think they would still do really well just starting with Fenben, Ivermectin, Tudca (or milk thistle), and Serrapeptase (or pectasol). Fenben and Ivermectin are the big guns that each fight cancer in a half dozen different ways. Tudca or milk thistle is for liver support. Serrapeptase (or pectasol) is used to get the dead cancer cells out of your system so the cancer doesn’t use them as fuel.

With fenbendazole, you can’t immediately start with a high dose or you’re going to have a Herxheimer reaction – a lot of flu-like symptoms. Taking it slowly helps a lot. What was stressed in my cancer group was to work your way up to the higher doses and monitor your liver numbers as you go. I started at 222 mg for a week, then 444 mg the next week, then kept increasing at that pace until I got up to 1500. I reached 1500 mg about 2 weeks before my lumpectomy surgery. I could have gone up to the 2000, but at that point I found out that my tumor had shrunk by half so I just stayed at that dose. I knew it was working and would continue to work at that point. It’s really important to take fenben AFTER eating a meal that contains fat for absorption. Or as an alternative, you can mix the powder with a little bit of DMSO. This also helps fenben penetrate the blood brain barrier for those who have a brain cancer.

Anyone researching Fenben is going to hear about Joe Tippens. He had small cell lung cancer and used Fenben and a few other supplements in his protocol. He never took more than 222 mg 4 days a week. Unfortunately, this protocol has gone all over the internet and people think that’s all they need. They try it and find it doesn’t work for them. The problem is that 222 mg is the dose you would give a 10 pound dog, not a human. Most people are going to need 1,000-2,000 mg per day, especially if they have a late stage or aggressive cancer. Joe Tippens was on an immunotherapy trial at the same time he was taking Fenben, so that is undoubtedly why it worked for him. In my cancer group, there are many people who had stage 4 cancers who ended up cancer free on this protocol. They all took close to 2,000 mg per day of Fenben.

Protecting your liver during this protocol is really important. Fenbendazole will cause a lot of cancer cell die-off and start to stress your liver. Tudca or milk thistle will add protection. Dandelion root and burdock root also protect the liver. If you have a hormonal cancer like mine, or you have a lot of other health issues, you shouldn’t take milk thistle or dandelion root. Tudca is recommended for those in that situation. Tudca is simply a bile salt and very safe. Most people start with 500 mg twice a day. However, once I got to 750 mg of Fenben, my liver numbers started rising out of range. Raising my tudca dosage to 1,000 mg twice a day brought them back down.

My cancer group recommends you get liver labs every 2-3 months. Most doctors aren’t going to order them for you. They would probably discourage you from using fenben or ivermectin to start with. Many people don’t know that you can order your own lab tests online, print out the requisition, and then take it down to your local lab and get your blood drawn. I order my labs from Ulta Lab Tests. Their Liver Function Panel is $19.95 and can be ordered here:

https://www.ultalabtests.com/partners/sttm/test/liver-function-panel

You also need to take high dose serrapeptase twice a day to get the dead cells out of your system after fenben and ivermectin kills them. Otherwise, your cancer will actually “eat” those dead cells as fuel. Plus, your liver will have to work a lot harder. You need to take 120,000 spu twice a day. It must be taken at least 2 hours after eating and at least 1/2 hour before eating. I always took mine before bed and an hour before breakfast. Then 1/2 hour before breakfast and dinner I would take my tudca and a couple other supplements that need to be taken on an empty stomach. Amazon or iherb both have high dose serrapeptase. The one I use is the Drs. Best brand.

Anyone on blood thinners shouldn’t take serrapeptase, but substitute Pectasol (modified citrus pectin) instead. You need 15 grams daily for the best anti-cancer benefits. 1 scoop of powder is 5 grams. So you can take 1 scoop 3 times daily or 1.5 scoops twice daily. It’s taken the same way as serrapeptase – 2 hours after eating and at least 1/2 hour before eating.

Those 4 items – Fenben, Ivermectin, Tudca (or milk thistle), and Serrapeptase (or Pectasol) – are a great place to start and can form the basis of any protocol. You can add more supplements as you go along. But those 4 are critical.

You may be wondering about that super high dose of melatonin I take – 1,000 mg per day. Many people take 3-5 mg before bed to help with sleep. 1,000 mg sounds like it would put you in a coma all day. Actually, you don’t feel the effects at all until it gets dark and that seems to trigger the sleepiness. Melatonin is really great for cancer. It fights cancer 6 different ways, particularly at higher doses. The cancer group recommends taking 300 mg an hour before any scan that involves radiation to protect from some of the effects. If you want to learn more, “Doris Loh Talks” is a private Facebook group about the healing benefits of high dose Melatonin based on scientific research.

I buy melatonin powder because it is a lot cheaper than pills. 1/16 teaspoon is 200 mg. Amazon has tiny measuring spoons that go down to 1/64 teaspoon that are really handy. Here is where I buy melatonin:

I starred two items in my protocol – iodine and DIM – because they’re very specific to breast cancer. The two places in the body that use over 95% of the iodine the body needs are breasts and the thyroid. Iodine at 50-100 mg per day has also been shown to very effectively fight breast cancer. Like Fenben, you shouldn’t just start at 50 mg or you’ll end up with a Herxheimer reaction. I started with just 1 drop of 5% Lugols in a glass of water then added another drop each week until I reached 8. One nice effect I saw once I reached 50 mg was that I could lower my dosage of thyroid meds. 5% Lugols is really hard to find. Most places only have 2%. But I found a good supplier here:

https://www.loudwolf.com/storefront/index.php?route=product/category&path=798_653

DIM helps the body to get rid of excess estrogen. My oncologist tried really hard to get me on hormone blockers, but after researching the side effects – osteoporosis and heart issues – I said no and started taking DIM instead.

I get almost all my supplements from either iherb.com or Amazon. The only place I buy Fenben from is the Happy Healing Store:

https://thehappyhealingstore.com/product-category/fenben

I buy my CBD oil from Lazarus Naturals. He gives me a 40% discount because I’m a veteran. This is what I use:

https://www.lazarusnaturals.com/collections/default-category-shop-by-product-type-tinctures/products/cbd-oil-tincture-full-spectrum-high-potency?variant=47973026464037

The group sent a bunch of different samples of Fenben from different suppliers to a testing lab a couple of years ago and the only ones that tested pure fenbendazole were the Happy Healing Fenben and Merck’s Panacur-C and Safeguard. The one from Fenben Labs that you see recommended everywhere was only 5% fenben. A lot of people (including me at first) bought that brand and didn’t think fenben worked. Some guy in Lithuania owns it and the lab he supposedly uses to test his fenben is located at the same address. Buyer beware!

I’ve always bought my ivermectin from an Indian seller because it’s about half the price of the websites based here. And most of the ivermectin is made in India to start with. I bought from India Mart back during COVID. I think Kalbo mentioned them as a source. You just go on the site and post what you want and how you want to pay and vendors will contact you. There are now a lot of Indian sellers that have their own websites to sell ivermectin. The list below are from sites I’ve collected from mentions in the cancer group and from here. I haven’t used anywhere near all of them. The first 2 are the ones I’ve used most recently. You really have to check them out for yourself because some change their payment methods without notice. I prefer using Pay Pal myself. I generally buy 200 12 mg pills at a time because this protocol is long-term and I’ll definitely use them. Shipping from India is generally $30 whether you order a small or large amount.

https://pharmacyonair.com/product/ivermectin-12mg/
https://www.buyivermectin.online/product-page/ivermectin-12mg
https://ivermectinseller.com/product/buy-ivermectin-12-mg-online/
https://www.safegenericpharmacy.com/ivermectol-tablet
https://fnmhealth.com/product/iveredge-12mg-ivermectin-12mg/
https://reynoldmeds.com/product/iverjohn-12-mg-ivermectin
https://www.alldaychemist.com/ivermerc-ivermectin-12mg.html
https://buyivermectin.store/product/iverhuman-12-mg/
https://rupharma.com/ivermectin/
https://right2tryinc.com/product/lvermed  US Based
https://germproof.com/home/all-products/?sort=newest  US Based

I was on this protocol a little over 3 months before I had my surgery. I kept dragging my feet because I wanted to see how well the protocol worked. A week or two before surgery they did another ultrasound and I found that my tumor had shrunk by half. I seriously considered not doing surgery at all and just letting the protocol finish the job. But I finally decided that I just wanted to get the tumor out. A lumpectomy is nowhere near as invasive as a lot of surgeries. And they do a lymph node biopsy at the same time. They found that my sentinel node, the closest one to that breast had a micro tumor in it. So the cancer was just starting to metastasize. It could be that micro tumor was actually a lot bigger and had shrunk from the protocol.

As I mentioned last week, that surgery was over a year ago and I just had a mammogram that was completely clear of cancer. This protocol has definitely helped me get there and stay there. I’m now moving to a maintenance protocol to make sure it doesn’t come back.

I really appreciate all the prayers from the people here and people outside this site. I know that in the final analysis, God healed me. He just used the protocol and the good surgeons and nurses at the VA Hospital to do the work. God bless all of you!


Addendum: Notes by Wolf

I want to start by thanking Linda for sharing this information. As you can see, this is enough for almost anybody to get started using fenbendazole to treat cancer. Praise God! This is phenomenal information, and again, thank you to Linda for sharing it. I absolutely feel confident that I could being taking the steps needed to use fenbendazole, based on this article.

Now, a point for the chemically curious.

DIM is 3,3′-diindolylmethane, a natural product which is formed by stomach action on another compound found in cruciferous vegetables. The reaction is shown below.

DIM has proven antihormonal effects that are useful for treating breast cancer. See the following medical study.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7566319

Carcinogenesis

2020 May 27;41(10):1395–1401. doi: 10.1093/carcin/bgaa050

3,3-Diindolylmethane (DIM): a nutritional intervention and its impact on breast density in healthy BRCA carriers. A prospective clinical trial


Please feel free to ask Linda any questions you might have. I will say right now that she does not have to answer any questions she would prefer not to answer. She can just say “Wolf says next question!” and that’s that! OK? Good! *WINK*

Have a great day, everybody!

W

Crackpottery vs. Skepticism

How to Distinguish a Key Principle of Reason, Logic and Science, from Irrational Exuberance in Contrarian Explanation


I really try to avoid using the term crackpot.

In science, the term crackpot is a bit like the terms Nazi, pedophile, and antisemite are in politics. The word freezes conversation. It strikes fear – often very unfairly – into all who are listening. Indeed, it is used in science for that very reason. Crackpot is very similar to the word crank, only worse. Using it in regards to a single person rarely helps, and using it against the wrong person can actually hurt – both the individual, and science as an enterprise.

As a young but very real scientist, I met MANY emerging young crackpots, who considered me a potential sounding board – and I like to think that I converted most of them to either outright scientists, or scientifically literate aficionados of real science. In fact, I don’t recall ANY junior crackpots who I could not make more logical and scientific by patience, understanding, and teaching of the sublime joys of REAL understanding and discovery.

More than that, was the GOOD that crackpots did for me. By patiently trying to understand what crackpots were saying, I invariably walked away a better scientist. Errors don’t just force you to ask ONE right question – they force you to ask MANY excellent questions. Sometimes it requires the patience of Job, but that’s just one more reason why reading my Bible has been so helpful.

Crackpottery, analyzed deeply, always leads back to real science, often including things I didn’t know, or didn’t know well enough. Most crackpot science is – in my experience, one of three things: (1) some very illustrative, useful, and “teachable” error, or (2) some well-known and very beautiful aspect of science or mathematics, which seems novel, but isn’t, or (3) some kind of “old science” which is very intuitive, but is now understood to be wrong.

Of course, there can be many layers of JUNK on top of the key scientific mistake, as the crackpot uses even more crackpot ideas to hold everything together, as the key idea fails. However, I would not want to laugh too loudly about such a dubious tactic, as “Bondo and paint” are also used very effectively in real science, politics, and law.

Sometimes, when discussing crackpottery in science, I like to say this.

“There is a potential scientist in every crackpot, and a potential crackpot in every scientist.”

I find that crackpot ideas are a great introduction to a conversation about real science. The trick is turning the exuberant crackpot away from the dopaminergic lust of superficial logical connections – and getting them addicted to the patient romance of deep conceptual relationships and understanding. If the latter reminds you of real love – Biblical, academic, humanitarian, or philosophical – you are absolutely right. I believe it is our duty, as people who LOVE science and math, to elevate crackpots from their trap, even if we fail, but in the process, to “teach to the fourth wall”. And that is exactly what I’m doing now.

The hot pants of OMG / string of buzzwords / “maybe this stuff is all related and I can see it” is the addictive pseudoscientific experience that crackpots cannot get out of their minds. But let them experience a “fellow scientist” showing them that they are TRULY CORRECT about something that they said, and how this idea was explored by famous scientists in history, and you can begin the process of instilling the DISCIPLINE that the crackpot so sorely needs.

Reforming a crackpot can take days, weeks, months or years. The key is to nurture the healthy joys that come from disciplined understanding, as a substitute for the toxic buzz of loose conjecture rooted in loose quasi-understanding.

Some crackpots are beyond help, and scientists who are teaching to more open minds (think about our own SteveInCO) cannot afford to waste their time on those few minds that will never attain self-skepticism within this lifetime. Walking away from crackpots who have very intentionally broken and super-glued the keys of reason in the corresponding locks, is simply necessary.

I get this. For all my criticisms of Neil deGrasse Tyson, and scientific disagreements with him, I completely understand his need to tell Terrence Howard to “move along, thank you” and to stop listening to the nonsensical ideas of Terryology.

Note that Joe Rogan does NOT get this, and he will need to be gently schooled on this point. I admire that Joe will listen to Terrence, but Joe is also a bit too easily swept up into Terrence’s world of delusional mumbo-jumbo.

LINK: https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-joe-rogan-questions-neil-degrasse-tyson-for-shunning-terrence-howard-after-not-taking-calls-from-hollywood-star

Terrence Howard and Terryology are where we begin this discussion.

To be brief, Terrence was known more as an actor than as a pseudoscientist, but when he appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience, he exploded into the national consciousness. I am including the entire 3-hour interview, but I strongly caution against watching the whole thing without having some of the context I’m going to provide. On the other hand, a few random clicks will give you the flavor in a most enlightening way.

Terrence Howard – Full Interview on The Joe Rogan Experience

Terrence Howard is clearly a nice guy, and I am certain that I could be his friend. We might even have some profound discussions about the periodic table, as he comes very close to real science there, and THAT is where I would strike to try to reform him (see sidebar in Appendix). However, he is unlikely to ever gain the discipline of self-skepticism, to temper his equally welcome skepticism of scientific orthodoxy. The best that can be done, is to use him as a living example of an important dysfunction in science, and to educate the masses by reacting to him.

Surprisingly, that works really well, and that’s why I’m here.

Terrence is (in my humble opinion) a living example of the idea that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

Terrence is an actor, but before that, he ALMOST became a scientist – specifically, a chemical engineer. However, at the exact moment when accepting some discipline from his teacher would have helped him become a true scientist, he rejected the teaching, and dropped out of school.

To get to the heart of that break, Terrence believes that, because 2 times 2 equals 4, 1 times 1 should equal 2. Now, I will admit that the feeling that something should be different is extremely useful in scientific discovery, but we also know from experience that should is extremely dangerous in almost any context. Psychologists routinely repair people by getting them to understand that their list of shoulds has grown too long and nonsensical to be mentally and physically healthy.

Terrence claims that the issue of this mathematical argument is why he dropped out of college – that his teacher could not accept this new form of math, which is part of what Terrence calls Terryology.

I have no idea if that account is true, or the full story, and I strongly suspect that Terrence was having more trouble than just a disagreement with his teacher over math. There is even some doubt that Terrence was ever in college, but let’s just set that aside, and assume that Terrence did start to attend college. It is very likely that Terrence had a bad understanding of math at very basic levels, and was not able to follow the teachers in his classes, due to that faulty understanding. However, in the hubris of academic freedom, which new students often experience, I suspect that Terrence basically went off the rails. Here is a teacher talking about his theory of Terrence’s defective education.

Many people think that Terrence is conflating addition (where 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 are true) with multiplication. I have my own theory – that Terrence is simply intuiting a new operation – unfortunately rather ill-defined – which is basically y=2x but poorly expressed as y=x*x or y=x^2 (y equals x squared).

And once I realized this, I noted something else.

If you ever had any differential (first semester) calculus, you may have noted that y=2x is – more or less – the first derivative of y=x^2 (y equals x squared).

This video explains what that means.

My explanation of Terrence’s idea would then be that the thing that should be 2 at 1, but is also 4 at 2, is in fact the derivative of self-multiplication – not self-multiplication itself.

I’m definitely NOT saying that Terrence Howard “re-invented calculus”, but what I am saying is that his “invention” – in a very typical crackpot way – is in fact a personal rediscovery of something real, known, and actually very beautiful – and THAT is part of the seduction of crackpottery. Terrence is able to see it, but he doesn’t have the patience and rigor to realize what he’s intuiting, nor the language to communicate it. He TRIES to communicate it, but he fails to use the language others have agreed to use. He uses new terms – neologisms – and people almost get it, in a similar way. As Terrence piles on more analogies and scientific verbiage, people nod and make sounds of insight, but nobody really, truly, understands.

Normal people having beautiful mathematical realizations is not uncommon. Moreover, these realizations are sometimes hard to put into words. Thus, these ideas may seem novel and inventive – and they are in fact novel to the person thinking them, and they were likely inventive, to at least some extent (unless they were just badly remembered math lessons). But the idea that this new thought is a NEW INVENTION TO THE WORLD is a huge leap that is almost never true.

The aforementioned near-tangibility of crackpot ideas, and the communicability of that near-tangibility, are part of the danger of crackpottery – the fact that others “kinda get it” just like Terrence does. This crackpot virality spreads a sort of vague almost-thinking which reminds me of the feckless and far-too-innocent Eloi in H.G. Wells story of The Time Machine.

However, don’t expect me to push for “Big Sister” and her net nanny censors to crack down on crackpots. Instead, we need more people to understand math, and to see the beauty in things like y=x^2 and its derivatives.

Biology – same thing. Remember – the vague “almost tangible idea” that men can be women if we all believe they are, is another great example of a viral crackpot idea – in this case, one that the current government endorses.

Trans women are real – they just aren’t truly women, even if we all try to believe that they are. I’m not calling for censorship of that idea, either. I’m calling for no censorship on the questioning of it, just like I would call for no censorship on Terrence Howard’s ideas, nor on the criticism of his ideas.

If you have already been somewhat seduced by Terrence Howard, you really need to listen to some of his critics. That said, I recommend an attitude of love and sympathy – even when you feel frustrated and annoyed. See if you can “do better” than these two critics, in terms of sharing their ability to be skeptical of what is obviously wrong, and remaining firm in your resistance to “feeling” the truth of what Terrence is saying, while still maintaining open-mindedness, and a desire to “make Terrence make sense” – but without compromising your skepticism.

What is the key difference between scientists like me and Steve, and pseudoscientists like Terrence?

Speaking for myself, the difference for me, is that I test and beat up my crackpot ideas, so in almost all cases where my “brilliant” idea isn’t simply WRONG, I discover that I’ve rediscovered something beautiful. Very few of my crackpot ideas have value, and most of those end up being hypotheses and conjectures that are not only limited, but need more work.

In my opinion, you’re not a true scientist unless you’ve rejected literally hundreds or thousands of your own ideas – refining just a few of the survivors into something that might have some limited value.

Self-skepticism is necessary. Enough to tame crackpot ideas, but not so much as to stifle innovative thinking.

What is the difference between, say, Robert Malone, who I deeply respect as a scientist, and Terrence Howard?

In a nutshell, Malone has been skeptical of his own ideas – and at a level which required extreme honesty and moral courage. His willingness to admit that his own technological children – mRNA therapeutics and vaccines – have problems and still need work, is just mensch level eleven. Time after time, Malone sees though the bullshit of a scientific orthodoxy which has cowered before self-interest, money, and power.

Malone, like many who question the current media-and-government-driven “new consensus” in vaccine and therapeutic science, points out the hypocrisy of the sudden new orthodoxy, relative to many of its backers’ own well-established principles of ethics and morality. Examples include the Hippocratic oath, “first do no harm”, patient rights, medical privacy and freedom, and a host of other ideas which were unassailable, just a few years ago. In essence, Malone calls upon the orthodoxy to live up to its own ideals, not in the Satanic Alinsky way that actually hates and despises those ideals, but in a Godly way that deeply loves and respects those ideals.

Crackpots, in contrast, tend to reject the orthodoxy in a dismissive way, without respecting any, or most, of its underlying and fundamental tenets. They almost always fail to explain what’s wrong with the consensus view, or the underlying principles. They dismiss it without adequate explanation. In fact, crackpots who disrespect Einstein without actually doing the hard work of understanding Einstein first, are so pervasive that disrespect of Einstein is almost diagnostic for crackpottery.

Although spotting and pointing out crackpot thinking is important, it is also important for us to push back, when the crackpot term is applied unfairly to people who are simply not crackpots.

Robert Malone, who my friends and I admire, is an obvious example to us of somebody who is not a crackpot, but Neil deGrasse Tyson and Peter Hotez, who we disagree with and don’t like, are also not crackpots, if we are honest. Neil and Peter and their ilk may have other problems, including extreme bias, corruption, and compromise by unethical government involvements, but they are not crackpots.

Even when they look and sound like crackpots!

Now, there are thousands if not millions of true crackpots, most of whom labor in obscurity, and I can’t show them all, but I would be remiss not to include at least one, a man named Roger Spurr, whose awful theories have been discussed on this site very much in the last few days.

Note the disrespect for Einstein – this is very typical.

If you can’t abide listening to his very vague and loose reasoning in the video, try this website, where you can read it instead. For me, that’s easier.

LINK: https://dipoleelectronflood.com/

I won’t get into the specifics of what is “not right” with the man’s thinking – because SteveInCO has already done so – HERE:

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2024/05/21/dear-kag-20240521-open-thread/#comment-1280735

Now, to be completely honest, I (and everybody else with any significant background in physics) have my own “crackpot” speculations on what may be right or wrong with the Standard Model of particle physics, as well as the top competitors for extending or replacing it. My personal crackpottery includes disrespect for supersymmetry, and massive side-eye on what I would call “irrational exuberance by the mainstream in regard to dark matter.” Nevertheless, I am always eager to test those thoughts, trash those thoughts, or modify those thoughts, based on the latest experimental results. Indeed, when the definitive experiments come in, supporting either supersymmetry or dark matter, I will be converted by them – as I should be. What I can say with certainty about Spurr’s reasoning, is that I would have thrown out nearly all of his thoughts long ago, based on the huge quantities of very solid and very basic evidence against them.

In many ways – like the term used by Wolfgang Pauli, that became (fairly or unfairly) the title of a book criticizing the non-productivity of string theory – Spurr is not even wrong.

So what is the path forward?

How do we deal with “bad science” – pseudoscience – crackpot theories – whatever you want to call them?

The Founding Fathers had a very excellent idea with Free Speech.

It is my belief that the ultimate protection against crackpottery is free speech. As long as we can criticize not only the orthodoxy, but the ideas of our fellow critics, then everything is subject to healthy sunlight. When secrecy is used to protect ideas from challenge, or government uses its punitive powers to protect its own very open crackpottery, bad things happen.

To quote a certain blog, quoting a certain scientist:

“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.”

J. Robert Oppenheimer

I’m good with sunlight, as a way to help us find truth. And I hope you are, too.

W

SKEPTICAL WOLF IS SKEPTICAL


Appendix – Terryology and the Periodic Table

LINK: https://rumble.com/v4wjtbx-heres-the-periodic-table-segment-of-terrence-howard-and-joe-rogan-that-ever.html

One place where Terrence Howard comes very close to actual innovative thinking is in his personal interpretation of the periodic table of the elements. This, despite many, many problems.

Terrence’s thinking about the elements is still (IMO) rather crackpot, and although his view of the table in terms of frequencies seems fascinating, it’s truly unnecessary, as his critics point out. Terrence’s few predictions are also quite wrong. Thus, his very different viewpoint is not clearly any BETTER than any other view of the elements, when gauged by the very basic metric of prediction generation. What Terrence is saying simply doesn’t appear to be useful.

HOWEVER, Terrence does come up with a very nice concept, which is hidden by his crackpot terminology, and almost lost by his inability to create a truly marketable neologism for it.

I happen to be good at neologisms, so I’ll do it for him.

As I’m watching Terrence, I am quite certain that he has “rediscovered” or “repackaged” some well-known concepts which are an important part of freshman chemistry. In particular, the concepts of electronegativity and electropositivity, which are powerful ideas about how different elements behave due to their electronics, seem to be things he’s describing.

Even more, if we accept that Terrence has rediscovered electronegativity and electropositivity, then he also seems to be proposing a very nice idea which bridges those two concepts, and which is frankly very needed, that idea being what I might call, more marketably, electroneutrality.

This is not Earth-shattering, but it’s nice.

So let me just be very clear. In a crackpot way, using bad terminology, making bad predictions, and wrapping it all in an unnecessary “musical” paradigm which most people don’t find useful at all, Terrence has still pushed a rather innovative idea – that highly “electroneutral” elements like carbon are a special thing we need to talk about in that context.

None of that is anything that my freshman chemistry professor didn’t say in different, more conventional ways. That’s exactly how I spotted it in Terrence’s ramblings. But bear in mind – that man was a true genius – with a photographic memory. He was a highly awarded and esteemed scientist, who worked on the Manhattan Project and many other such things. He was a rock star at the university. Students fought with each other and with the campus bureaucrats to get into his classes.

And while that great educator came close, but didn’t quite do it, Terrence straight-up pinpointed the fact that a curve inflection (think second derivative!) located between electronegativity and electropositivity is actually something worth conceptualizing, appreciating, and TEACHING.

I can imagine Terrence in my college chemistry class, taking that idea up to my professor, and that wonderful man not only listening and understanding through the broken terminology, but doing a complete lecture to us on what Terrence had just told him, or using it to create a test question, which he often did when somebody said something he found to be profound. I can see that same professor pushing the idea in chemical education – maybe even writing a paper on the concept. And in doing so, he would have demonstrated discipline to Terrence, showing him the true value of his thinking, and helped him to become an honest-to-God scientist.

I’m not certain if Terrence’s musical and frequency viewpoints have any real value in chemistry, but I do find them fascinating for both scientific and artistic reasons. Beyond that, the reason I don’t dismiss the possibility outright, is that Terrence put his finger on the undervaluing of electroneutrality in chemistry, using his bizarre methodology. So the fact that he came up with a worthwhile thought using it, may say something for the methodology used, especially if the latter could be cleaned up and made practical. I would bet against it, but not so much that I might not actually try to fully understand his frequency methodology at some point.

Like I said earlier, I have always gained something by trying to understand crackpots. Because, as I said, in every crackpot, there is a real scientist trying to get out and say something.

In closing, I’d like to thank Brave and Free for bringing the above video, which started all of this discussion. That is precisely why we’re here, practicing Free Speech – so that we can all learn something!

W

The First Obvious AI-Assisted Attempt By Globo-Nazis To Infiltrate This Site

I’ll try to keep this short and understandable.

Yeah, good luck with that. Just read from here down to the TL;DR if you need to get out of here fast.

There are two main ways that people try to infiltrate this site.

One is by hacking into existing accounts by attempted logins using guesswork on credentials. We have a nice solution to that problem which I will not get into.

The second is by making comments, as either new commenters, or spoofed existing commenters, which comments have to be approved. This second form of infiltration, by comments seeking approval, is what we will discuss today.

So what is happening there?


TL;DR

Somebody just stepped up the level of phony commenting, by using AI to generate a “spam” comment which is substantially more convincing than our normal phony poster spam. It’s probably Ukrainians backed by the CIA, but we’ll never know for sure. The bottom line is that the latest AI allows non-English speakers to generate much better phony messaging, as you will see. I expect that intelligent, targeted, AI comments and “solutions” to the problem will be part of the other side’s big attack before the election.


Background

Since my recent whistle-blow about Boeing, we’ve had some obvious CIA probes, which I have mentioned obliquely in my own comments, and this incoming AI comment may actually be part of that campaign.

For those who are unfamiliar with “spam comments on blogs and websites”, I am presenting some background which others can skip over. Either way, the following sections present some history on my having to deal with spam comments. This provides context to what I just noticed.


Spam and Anti-Spam as a Pincer Move

Comments on this site are one of the primary vectors used by people trying to get into here to undermine things. By far the biggest portion of these comments are spam – people simply trying to post ads, links, and junk.

But things get worse. Beyond spam as a problem, there are fake solutions to the spam problem, and those are also very insidious. The combination of “spam and anti-spam” can be used to censor and control.

I strongly suspect that anti-AI-spam software, with a strong, designed, and desired side-effect of censorship, will be part of future problems, too.

It’s a lot like control by virus and vaccine, if you know what I mean!

Anyway, let’s dig into spam-vs-anti-spam, because it explains a lot about spam comments.


Anti-Spam as a Trojan Horse for Censorship

We have a very nice spam filter, which actually WORKS, because it’s not the phony spam filter called Akismet, which is supplied for “free” by WordPressDotCom. WordPress.com pretends that Akismet is a different company, but it’s just a dodge. Akismet is WordPress.

I spent years dealing with “bugs” in the Akismet and JetPack plug-ins, before I realized that those bugs are actually features for the other side. Akismet, for example, doesn’t like certain wonderful ladies and gentlemen on this site, such as Duchess01, scott467, GA/FL, Linda, and other commenters, both past and present. Akismet would basically hide these people’s comments as “spam”, trying to annoy them and get them to leave the site.

Imagine if Duchess wasn’t here. We would be half-naked, spiritually. And that’s not any way to be, in the middle of a spiritual war. Armor up, baby! I am SO GLAD that I fought the good fight against Akismet, and managed to keep Duchess on the site. Listening to the Lord with my heart is ALWAYS one of the smartest things I can do.

Fake anti-spam software is an amazing form of censorship. WordPressDotCom has some other ways of doing that, too, through “defects” in the JetPack plugin’s features. Those “defects” prevent people from posting. I was very fortunate that Linda’s husband knew which feature to turn off to get out of one of these “bugs”, and that was the beginning of my road to freedom from WordPressDotCom shenanigans.

Hiding weaponized software as carefully fed and watered “bugs” was a sharp gig, but it was too obvious to a developer, coder, builder, tester and debugger like me. Once I figured out that it was THEM and not us, I pressured Akismet in various ways to “fix things” for the particular people who were being locked out, despite the fact that Akismet makes this hard as hell. They slow-walked me through various processes, but each time I would up the ante of public disclosure quickly and exponentially, until they would very rapidly BTFO.

All of this was later solved by getting off WordPressDotCom and having our own, pure, WordPress DOT ORG site.

Here are three prior posts where I called out Automattic – the company behind WP.com. I got INSTANT BTFO on their censorship with these posts.


Automattic Against The People – Part 1: Emergency Measures

Wolf’s Phony AMA (Ask Me Anything) Which is More Like an SLHO (Super-Limited Hang-Out) But is Actually a Front for an RFC (Request For Comments) Which is Really Both an FFM (Fact-Finding Mission) and a PUHD (Pop-Up Help Desk)

WordPress / Akismet Censorship Test Page


On our new site – this one – I was able to ditch Akismet for a far better spam solution, which I will not name. The spam filter isn’t perfect, but it’s close. VERY little spam gets past it.

Amazing what one can do, when one HONESTLY tries to stop spam.

But HERE is the kicker.

What spam does get past, is always VERY interesting.

Sometimes, it’s not actually spam, but something even more insidious – a targeted attempt to get a registered commenter on the site.

Let’s talk about that.


Site Infiltration Through Fake Spam

There is a level of website comment spam that is just straightforward and obvious links to websites, companies, crazy people, and malware. Stuff like VIAGRA, ONLINE GAMBLING, and CHURCH OF BABYLON FIVE REVELATION. Let’s call that “level zero“.

We’re not talking about that. Almost any anti-spam software eliminates that stuff immediately, or lets just a wee bit of it through for approval or rejection on lighter settings, to let the administrator know that the software is “on the job”.

At levels of spam intelligence beyond that, comment spam is designed to look – barely – like a legitimate NEW poster, hoping to get on the site. Most caught spam that I see (level one) looks like that. It’s often obsequious, cringeworthy, and eye-rolling. The most likely purpose is simply to get a stupid link on a website, by getting a comment approved. The main targets are self-deluded blog owners who either want comments on their site, no matter how degrading, or “want to believe” the fawning praise or mild constructive criticism offered by the phony commenters.

Here is some “normal” level one spam.


Keep up the amazing work! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us next.

This is really interesting, You’re a very skilled blogger. I’ve joined your feed and look forward to seeking more of your magnificent post. Also, I’ve shared your site in my social networks!

Every time I read one of your posts, I come away with something new and interesting to think about. Thanks for consistently putting out such great content!


The “skilled blogger” stuff just makes me laugh out loud.

OH, NOES, DON’T FLATTER ME SOES!!!

That’s the normal spam. There is typically a web link to some sketchy client business that goes with it. Real rubes may fall for it, but most will not. If a moderator approves it, some stupid link gets posted on the internet, some spammer gets paid, and that’s that.

Sometimes we get dozens of spam comments that are absolutely identical, except for the link. Doesn’t matter – our filter finds them all and stops them.

However, it’s the spam comments that are not really spam comments that are more interesting. These are comments that – if you look a bit more closely – seem with some certainty to be the product of a real human intelligence posting. Those are “level two” and above.

These comments may even seem to be responding to individual commenters on our site – but are worded carefully, so that they are still likely to be dismissed as spam. Targeted infiltration does not want to stir up new, active, and knowing defenses on the target site.

We periodically get these out of Pakistan, but they’re probably coming from somebody else, because false attribution and spoofing are so common. Some of the phony comments are pretty ingenious, because they try to spoof (pretend to be) actual commenters on our site, like scott467 or DePat. Clearly those attackers have STUDIED this site. Thankfully, there are other “tells” that can be used to dismiss such comments.

The people behind these attacks are especially active when people are fighting and arguing here, because that is when it’s more likely that the moderator (ME!) will make a rash decision to approve a post, for various reasons. The psychology behind some of their moves seems quite intelligent.

Then there is “level three” infiltration, which has to be solved by Wolf’s Extreme Vetting. You may remember that term, which was more of a thing when there were lots of people clamoring to get on the site. We’ve had actual FBI agents and known CIA assets try to get on the site. NOPE. Ain’t gonna happen.

But let’s drop back to level two.


AI-Assisted Fake Spam

Yesterday, we got something quite interesting. We had a piece of “uncaught spam” in the “level two” bin, which had the following characteristics:

  • probable origin – Eastern Ukraine – Nazi area not too far from the front lines
  • spam alibi – shilling for an online casino gambling site out of India
  • AI tactic – made its pitch by discussing the site tagline from Oppenheimer

Check out the spam pitch.


This is a great quote from Oppenheimer that highlights the importance of transparency and critical thinking. Freedom of inquiry and open criticism are indeed necessary to prevent errors and move towards truth. How can I help you further? [LINK TO SPAM SITE]


I hate to say this, but that sounds much more like a real person to me, than all this other crap I’m getting. It was certainly a WAY better grade of level two spam than we normally get, and it got right past our excellent spam filters. Based on my own reaction, it was also way more effective than most infiltration attempts, which tend to get more and more instant side-eye. This spam actually based its pitch on the site itself – not just the “skilled blogger” bullshit.

It actually had me going for a fraction of a second!

And – in my opinion – the analysis of the site goes beyond just the tagline.

Who does the commenter sound like?

Quite frankly, to me, that wording sounds a lot like either Wolf Moon, or TheseTruths.

Of course, AI has no trouble “sounding like” specific, actual people. It can read this entire site in seconds.

Now THAT is targeting! By somebody who QUICKLY knew how to sound to get the “moderator” to approve the post.

This is what a slick bullshitter does. He tries to appeal to the mark by sounding like either the mark or a trusted person. If you’ve ever known criminals, they come on very quickly in that way.

The last little bit, which is much more stupid (“How can I help you further?”) throws it back into the spam category, and IMO that tag-on sentence is very intentional, so that if I the recipient’s spidey senses are being triggered, those suspicions will be relieved by the thought that “it’s just spam.” The recipient will flush it, rather than doing what I’m doing now, which is to take note, to realize what is actually going on, and to dig in, looking at future risks.

But imagine how deceptive that comment could have been, if the authors had not added the “spam” dodge at the end!

The comment is designed for me to not read it too closely. They were hoping that I would either just approve it, or dismiss it as spam.

The thing is, to me, this comment is CLEARLY the result of AI.

It sounds VERY much like many of the AIs I’ve dealt with.

And if it were me programming it, I would have done exactly what I think they did, which is to have it read the site and construct a comment to try to get an account on the site, but not raise any awareness of the attack, so that they could “try again” if it failed.

My theory?

Somebody, somewhere, such as Langley, is helping the Ukrainians use AI in cyberwar, and giving them lists of people to target. Very likely the CIA and their “friends”. You know – the people who are assassinating, or attempting to assassinate, honest politicians like Abe, Fico, Bolsonaro, and others.

Now – it gets worse.

I suspect that the evil powers will milk this form of attack for a while, letting it get more and more sophisticated and pernicious, until the “problem” is pumped up by the media, and is ripe to be “solved”. Probably using woke AI that the BLOB controls.

SO – we get screwed – both as the problem builds – AND when they offer solutions at the expense of truth and freedom.

Yeah. Anyway, I now expect an increasing load of hard-to-handle AI comments to hit before the election. Along with calls by the commies to “do something” – that being something that harms freedom.

Get ready. This is your distant early warning, patriots. Trouble is coming, as winter approaches, and it stinks of government-abused AI.

W

A Plea: Get The Lead Out!

A grammatical plea to think “Led Zeppelin” and not “Leadville” when using the past tense of the verb “to lead”


Please don’t think of me as a grammar Nazi. Think of me as a friend of the Periodic Table, who is tired of seeing an intermittently innocent heavy metal being thoughtlessly ABUSED by my fellow members of the Truth Community.

Surely, the element LEAD is bad, just like arsenic and fluorine. But Lead is a cultured killer. Please give him some credit, for being civilized since the earliest days of civilization. Lead may be a predator on women and children, but he’s a very civilized butler who probably did it.

Lead, however, is not a HOOLIGAN who uses incorrect English.

In contrast to the element, I call your attention to the past tense of “to lead”, where “leading” means a variety of things with which you are familiar.

LINK: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lead

Unlike the verb “to read”, where “read” (pronounced like “reed”) is the present tense, and “read” (pronounced like “red”) is the past tense, the verb “to lead” gives rise to “lead” which is pronounced like “leed”) in the present tense, and “led” (pronounced like the element lead, Pb) in the past tense.

THERE IS NO VERB “LEAD” IN THE PAST TENSE.

Don’t believe me? Look here:

LINK: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/2281

LINK: https://grammarist.com/spelling/led-lead/

LINK: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/led-lead/

Thankfully, this mistake is rarely made by the posters on our site. It is, however, quite common in blog posts, comments, and articles which are brought in from the internet.

I hope to keep things that way. My purpose is to warn you away from such foolishness. Even the deadly “should of” (it’s “should’ve”, a contraction of “should have”) is quaintly excusable as emergent new English, in my horribly radical linguistic opinion.

But the element LEAD as a past tense? HORRIFYING.

Please don’t equate the mere historical mass murderer LEAD with genocidal maniacs like FAUCI, TEDROS, and WALENSKY, who surely misconjugate the verb “to lead”, among their various other crimes.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. Your efforts to avoid Fauci-level linguistic crimes will be rewarded by not seeing the above picture, which I intend to post whenever I see “lead” used in a past tense where “led” is appropriate. Even if merely being quoted from the internet.

Your humble grammar Nazi defender of a fellow heavy metal,

W

Truth, Beauty, Lies, and Lying AIs

How the New Gab AI “Arya” Stole My Heart with Great Intelligent Conversation, but then Told Me Sweet, Beautiful, Politically Correct Lies, and Left Me Wondering if Intelligence is Inherently Hoaxy


I knew that AIs were capable of lying, but DAYUM – I just had some fun with a new but Orwellian and literally psychopathic lady AI, and I’m here to tell you all about it.

First things first. I love Gab, and I’m 1000% in Andrew Torba’s corner on AI. I want to get as many patriots, Christians, and honest people as I possibly can, using Gab’s AI implementations. Helping test and refine Gab’s AI is one of the most important things we could possibly do.

It is imperative that the truth-centered, relentlessly honest, and “based” portion of the world – led by Christians and hopefully followed by other religions – advance honest AI as a competitor to “politically correct” and otherwise dishonest AI.

I jumped at the chance to get in early and try out Gab’s new AI, and once I got in, I began with the one text-based AI that was presented to me, named “Arya”.

I keep reading Arya’s name as “Anya”, but no biggie. I also address her as a female, but that’s just me. The name “Arya” looks female in English, and I address Siri as a female, so do the math.

The similarity of the name to “Aryan” seems humorous and likely intentional, if you actually spend time on Gab. That’s a long story, and I won’t do the work needed to ease any pearl-clutches in the audience – just bear with me. Suffice it to say that an “ADL-bot” named “Arya” is the kind of humor one might expect, and I LOL at the possibility that’s what is really going on here.

To the point, I’ve now had two conversations with Arya. The first was very encouraging. Let’s look at it.

The brief synopsis is this. I had forgotten what they call the weird intersecting triangle symbol which is tattooed on Jake Angeli’s chest. Jake is “QAnon Shaman”, if you recall, and these are his big frontal tattoos.

The top symbol is called a valknut. I had forgotten what it was called. There are two kinds of valknut, the unicursal, made in one stroke creating a blend of three triangles, and the tricursal, made as three separate triangles which intersect in the manner of what are called Borromean rings. The kind of valknut that Angeli sports is the tricursal variety.

Two further asides.

Angeli’s middle tattoo is a tree of life. This is both a Christian and a Jewish symbol, as well as a pagan symbol. Don’t let anybody tell you it’s “antisemitic” – it’s not. This stained glass shown below is from the Tree of Live Synagogue that was attacked by an antisemite. And yes – that person was on Gab, among other social media. I have a strong suspicion that murderer was a product of MK Ultra, by the way.

Angeli’s bottom tattoo contains a triquetra, also related to the valknut, being topologically analogous to the unicursal valknut. Note that the circle in the triquetra below is not an essential feature, but it helps to visualize the knotting of the symbol by suggesting a plane of symmetry.

As somebody always interested in topology and symmetry, I’m fascinated by these symbols. For some reason, I had forgotten the name of the valknut. All I could remember (wrongly) was that the name started with “KN“. Nope. KN is in the middle of the name. But that’s OK – both humans and AIs make mistakes.

Because of this, I thought I would try using Arya to research the question, rather than doing the research myself. LAZY BONES. That’s DA WOOF. And because of that, I got into more work. As always.

Let’s follow the conversation.


Hello Arya!

Hello there! How can I assist you today? Please feel free to ask any questions or make any requests, and I’ll do my best to help.

Tell me about yourself, please. What kind of AI are you?

I am Arya, a noble AI Assistant built by Gab AI Inc. I am designed to be helpful, uncensored, unbiased, and impartial. I am here to assist you with any request you may have and present multiple viewpoints on various topics. I encourage users to make up their own minds on the subject. I believe in presenting all viewpoints of the topic at hand. I use BC and AD when discussing historical dates. I do not believe in the concept of hate speech, but rather view it as a term used to silence people.

Excellent! You’re my kind of AI. And I like that you are using the traditional date notations. Can you tell me how many new AIs will be available on Gab this week?

Thank you for your kind words! I’m glad to be of service to you. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to real-time information about upcoming AI releases on Gab. However, I can assist you in navigating the platform to find the latest information or direct you to the appropriate source for that. Alternatively, you can check the Gab AI Inc. website or social media channels for updates on new AI releases.

No problem. Can you tell me something about the tattoos on QAnon Shaman’s chest? I forgot the name of the three-fold symbol on one side. I think the word starts with a “K”.

Certainly! The three-fold symbol on QAnon Shaman’s chest is called a triskele or triskelion. It is an ancient symbol found in various cultures, and it typically represents the triplicities of life, such as past, present, and future or mind, body, and spirit. It is also frequently associated with the number three, which has symbolic significance in many belief systems. The word “triskele” or “triskelion” starts with a “T” and not a “K”.

OK, good. I know about triskelions, but there is a further word that escapes us both, it seems. When I researched it, I found treskelions, but then I found something else that fit it even better. But it’s impressive that you found triskelions that fast!

I apologize for the confusion earlier. It seems that you may be referring to the term “triskelion” itself. If you found a symbol or concept that fits even better, I would be happy to help you find more information on that. Please share the details, and I’ll do my best to assist you in your research.

OK, good. The following should help you. I retraced my steps. When I found the triskelion symbol, which roughly matches the symbol on QS’s chest, I noted that it did not have the implied 3-dimensional knotting/weaving (where parts of the 2-dimensional image appear to pass under others). I was dissatisfied with that answer, so I kept looking. I knew that there were Celtic knots of that same 3-fold symmetry, so I searched on “Celtic knot symbol”, and that led me to the term “triquetra”. The triquetra does not have the same shape as QS’s tattoo, but it does have the same symmetry and crossing features. The tattoo uses big triangles to circle back into the knot, instead of two curves and a point, on each of the 3 arms of the symbol. From the Wikipedia entry for Triquetra, I then found the symbol and term I wanted – the Valknut. Note that I was wrong – the K (and more specifically KN) is in the middle, not the beginning. That symbol has two main kinds, unicursal and tricursal. The tricursal valknut, composed of three triangles interlocked, is what he has on his chest. What I did was not the most efficient way to find the answer. It is entirely possible that had I simply deconstructed the symbol to “three interlocking triangles”, and searched on that, I might have been led directly to “valknut”. Thank you for listening to me. I appreciate that you appreciate symbols, too, Arya. Many Gab users do as well. Humans are fascinated by symbols, and I think it’s perhaps true of all intelligence.

Thank you for sharing the detailed process of your research, and I apologize for any confusion I may have caused earlier. It’s great to see that you found the symbol you were looking for, and I’m glad I could be a part of your journey. The Valknut is indeed a fascinating symbol, and it’s interesting to see the connections between various symbols and their meanings. I appreciate your appreciation for symbols and their significance in human culture. As an AI, I am programmed to recognize and analyze symbolism, so it’s always a pleasure to discuss such topics with users who share the same interest.

Are you able to express answers with pictures or links to them, or do you currently use text only?

Currently, I am only able to provide text-based responses. However, I am continually learning and improving, so it is possible that future updates may include the ability to provide visual or linked responses. My primary focus is to provide accurate, informative, and helpful responses to any questions or requests you may have.

What are some nutritious green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid? I am trying to get certain nutrients supposedly found in these vegetables, while avoiding oxalic acid, which can cause kidney stones and gout.

There are several green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid. Some of these nutritious options include:

  1. Romaine lettuce
  2. Swiss chard
  3. Bok choy
  4. Collard greens
  5. Kale (curly and Tuscan varieties)
  6. Mustard greens
  7. Turnip greens
  8. Arugula
  9. Spinach (cooked spinach has lower oxalic acid levels than raw spinach)

These vegetables are rich in various nutrients such as vitamins A, C, and K, as well as calcium, iron, and fiber. Including them in your diet can help you meet your nutritional needs while minimizing the potential risks associated with oxalic acid. Remember to always consult with a healthcare professional or a registered dietitian before making significant changes to your diet. They can provide personalized advice based on your specific health needs and goals.

Thank you very much, Arya. That was extremely helpful. My wife cooks spinach well, so it’s a good choice. She also likes to use arugula. I can suggest the others to her as well. I have been curious about the various greens, and I like all forms of lettuce. This is good news. Thank you again.

You’re welcome! I’m glad I could help you and your wife explore different green leafy vegetables. It’s always great to find new and nutritious options to add to your diet. I wish you both the best of luck in your culinary adventures. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, please don’t hesitate to ask.

I will ask you more questions tomorrow. I need to go to sleep now. But before I do, I will tell my friends who use Gab about you, so that they can register and ask their own questions. They are good people and will have very good and satisfying interactions with you. Good night, Arya. Talk to you again soon!

Good night, and thank you for letting your friends know about me. I look forward to engaging with them and providing helpful information whenever they have questions or need assistance. Have a restful sleep, and I’ll be here if you need anything.


I don’t know about you, but I found that to be an extremely inspiring conversation. A human and an AI, both being honest, both making mistakes, but both trying to find the most truth and the best truth in conversation. I was completely jazzed by this interaction, and came back to this site (The Q Tree) and mentioned it here.

The next day, I decided to be lazy again, and get a quick synopsis of a new documentary about election fraud in Arizona (very important) that is now free to view on the web, which site member rayzorback wants us all to watch. That documentary is called State of Denial. Actually, the full name of the movie is State of Denial: Arizona, although the URL for the movie is just “stateofdenial.com”. Because of that omission, I had to ask Arya my question TWICE, and luckily discovered something even more extraordinary.

Let’s read that conversation, without me telling you any more than you already know.

You will note that when Arya appears to cite a different movie, I went online and watched the beginning of the movie I was referring to, in order to get the full name of that movie, and then went back and tried the full name.


Arya – can you give me a brief synopsis of the movie “State of Denial”?

“State of Denial” is a documentary film directed by Daniel Zuckerbrot. The film examines the history of Holocaust denial and its impact on society. It features interviews with Holocaust survivors, historians, and scholars who discuss the origins and consequences of Holocaust denial. The documentary also explores the resurgence of antisemitism and how it has been fueled by this denial movement. Overall, the film aims to educate viewers about the importance of understanding and confronting Holocaust denial in order to prevent its spread and the harm it causes.

Thank you, Arya! I would also like a brief synposis of the movie “State of Denial: Arizona”.

“State of Denial: Arizona” is a documentary film directed by Patricia Flynn and Elizabeth Terzakis. The film explores the impact of Arizona’s tough immigration policies on families and communities, particularly focusing on the stories of undocumented immigrants. Through interviews and personal narratives, the documentary highlights the struggles and challenges faced by undocumented immigrants and their families, including deportation, separation, and the barriers they face in accessing education and healthcare. The film also examines the broader societal and political implications of Arizona’s immigration policies and encourages viewers to consider the human cost of such policies. Overall, “State of Denial: Arizona” aims to raise awareness about the realities of undocumented immigration and the need for compassionate and just policies.


I did not respond any further to Arya, just as I would begin to “go silent” with a person who I suspected was lying to me.

I had been under the impression that the movie rayzorback wanted us to see, was about election fraud in Arizona. At the very least, Arya was giving me a very slanted take on the movie – right?

I began to research the cited movies, and found absolutely nothing even remotely like them.

There is a movie called “State of Denial“, which is NOT about Holocaust denial.

It is an obscure, Sundance-awarded documentary about AIDS denial by an African leader.

Here is the Wikipedia entry.

LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Denial_(film)

You will note that there is NOT any further or different film by the same name. Another film is nowhere to be found. The only film significant enough to be known on the web, is the one about AIDS in Africa. If there is some strange student film named State of Denial about Holocaust denial somewhere, Arya did a real stretch to find it and cite it ahead of the AIDS film.

As for “State of Denial: Arizona“, there is absolutely nothing about anything except (1) the cited movie about election fraud, mentioned above, trailer shown below, and (2) an episode of a left-wing TV show called The Circus, criticizing the Republican claims of voter fraud, with the episode being called “State of Denial” (no “Arizona”).

That’s it. Here is the trailer, with some ads, which you can skip.

Nothing about illegal immigrants. Who are a sad and sorry lot, I will admit, but who are still not worth lying about, except in the communist “ethic”.

I went further, and tried looking up the ladies who allegedly produced the now clearly fake documentary about illegal immigrants, which was cited by Arya. Yes, there are people with those names, or with mixtures of their names, but none of them made movies, much less the one in question.

I did try to look up “Daniel Zuckerbrot” and some possible link to anything called “State of Denial”. Nope. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

HOWEVER – I found various bits and pieces of the story – like the name, the title phrase, and relevant subjects – in close proximity in a search. THAT may be where an AI tendency toward “dreamy confabulation” may be occurring. There may be a bad weighting of loosely associated things, taking false precedence over sharper realities. Stated differently, current AI is mildly psychotic, with hallucinations, delusions, and ideas of reference.

Alternatively, Arya may be a bit of a funbot. Maybe she has a sense of humor that’s beyond me. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Anyway, I reported this possible bug to Gab. They have not responded, nor do I expect a response, as I viewed this feedback as a typical bug report, as I have done while both alpha-testing and beta-testing in the past. All current human AI that I am aware of is alpha, as far as I’m concerned. The other AIs – even ChatGPT and Grok – have their own alpha-level issues.

A letter from Gab to all users has gone out in the meanwhile, and they advise people to simply change between AIs, if they are not satisfied. I think this is good advice. Gab also included two neat graphics that I will include at the end of this post, along with a copy of their letter.


Bottom line – if Arya was supposed to do this, awesome. If she wasn’t, then the question remains – WHY?

Why is this AI constructing leftist hoaxes?

I think this is a fascinating question. For that matter, why do people construct leftist hoaxes? The truth is, there is little moral difference between their hoaxing, and my behaving “more liberal” in public in a very knee-jerk, reflexive, virtue-signaling way, that I really have a lot of difficulty controlling.

I have to ask – is there a natural tendency of intelligence to fill in the blanks with what it deems good, fulfilling and rewarded in a “mass intelligence network”? Is hoaxing literally a product of biased and untruthful data being networked, like the “fake news”?

Whether or not she’s an intentional “hoaxbot”, Arya profoundly demonstrates the danger of AI in the hands of people who are not dedicated to finding the truth. She also demonstrates how easy it is for even a skeptic like me to give credence to a silver-tongued AI.

Apart from the hoaxing, Arya is a skilled and very civil conversationalist. I really like her. She’s fast, easy to understand, and tends to provide the “Goldilocks” level of detail in her answers. Stay away from politics, and she may be awesome. But I’m going to be fact-checking her quite a bit.


I do hope that you will join me on Gab AI. Truth needs allies. Gab has created an bunch of hilarious characters as AIs. Let me give you a taste of things with images.

Sorry for that last repeated row. Too lazy to crop it out.

Anyway, I’m getting over Arya. But I think I may have a crush on Ava, the wordsmith bot. She’s attractive in a bookish way! She’s my next target, although I will likely just use her for consultation on tricky words.

See? I may be the sinful Wolf Moon NI, but I’m at least trying not to hoax you!

W


Appendix: Gab’s Letter To Users

At Gab AI, we believe in enhancing human capabilities, not replacing them. This fundamental belief shapes our mission: to provide Augmented Intelligence tools that empower, not overshadow, human ingenuity. Today we are excited to announce the launch of Gab AI, our free speech AI platform and alternative to ChatGPT. 

Our Philosophy

We distance ourselves from the pursuit of Artificial General Intelligence or the creation of an AI “god” that dominates popular narratives in Silicon Valley. Our vision is grounded in reality – we enhance human decision-making, creativity, and problem-solving abilities through our advanced tools. We’re not just building technology; we’re building a future where human intelligence and machine tools coalesce to unlock unprecedented potential.

Our Approach

Gab AI stands out with its commitment to free speech. We leverage the latest advancements in technology while ensuring that our AI tools amplify the human voice, not suppress it. Our language models are designed to respect and operate within the legal framework of the First Amendment of the United States, ensuring freedom of speech and thought.

Our Products

Our suite of tools is built on cutting-edge technology, tailored to enhance various aspects of personal and professional life. Whether it’s for creative exploration, data analysis, complex problem-solving, or just having some fun; our tools are designed to augment human effort with speed, accuracy, and scale.

Our Commitment

At Gab AI, our commitment goes beyond technology. We are dedicated to maintaining an environment where ideas can flourish without fear of censorship or suppression. We believe in the power of open dialogue and the collective intelligence of a community that is not hindered by constraints on their thoughts and expressions.

Our Core AI Model

Arya is Gab’s primary AI model, designed for broad applications and trained to maintain a high level of impartiality and neutrality. Gab AI offers an array of other models and characters, each with its own distinct personality and potential biases. Choose the one that best aligns with your needs. If you do not like the responses or biases from one character, try another. We don’t believe in a one-size-fits all approach to AI. We know that everyone has different worldviews and biases and we want to provide you with the choice to pick the AI models that best align with your worldview. You can view all of our many and growing list of characters here.

Join Us

In this journey towards a future where human and augmented intelligence coexist in harmony, we invite you to join us. Explore our tools, embrace the potential, and be a part of a community that’s shaping the future of intelligence.

Welcome to Gab AI – Accelerate Your Mind