Dear KAG: 20240521 Open Thread

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Badlands News Brief – May 20, 2024

The Rise of Gut Politics

Bidenflation advances: Consumers no longer trying to save for college and homes, now just spending on luxuries

No Honor Among Thieves

The Dems Opened the Door for Reciprocity

Proposed Abortion Amendments Qualify for Ballots in Colorado, South Dakota

Missouri is giving this a try, too. One thing we can say about the other side, they are organized when it comes to this stuff.

Biden, After Revoking Trump’s Order Against ICC, Claims Outrage at ICC Warrants Against Israel

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

Meme Zone

Yes.

Made with Square InstaPic

Or Krispy Kremes.

For the record, the Immaculate Conception did not happen at the Annunciation. The Annunciation was Jesus Christ’s conception. The Immaculate Conception was His mother’s. Ask any Catholic. The dates of the feasts give it away.

And her mother needs to watch her mouth around her.

Where I live, it’s about a mile wide.

It’s Tuesday, but….

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out. There is also a “rescue” thread there for members of the Tree to rendezvous if the main site goes kablooey. A third site has been added for site outages of longer duration.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And Auntie DePat’s requests:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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JAMES 4:1-10

1What causes wars, and what causes fightings among you? Is it not your passions that are at war in your members? 2You desire and do not have; so you kill. And you covet and cannot obtain; so you fight and wage war. You do not have, because you do not ask. 3You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions. 4Unfaithful creatures! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5Or do you suppose it is in vain that the scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit which he has made to dwell in us”? 6But he gives more grace; therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” 7Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8Draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you men of double mind. 9Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to dejection. 10Humble yourselves before the Lord and he will exalt you.

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

As lifeguards, we blew them for pull outs. Even punched one myself once.

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pgroup2

Monday is done Tuesday has won.

Mornin’ y’all.  🙂 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good Morning! Let’s get PSYCHED!!!

pgroup2

Love Jackie doing his thing but what is up with the swimming vid?

Gimme a little context.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Jackie Chan video tweet is a reply to another. The Twitter plugin automatically pulls in the tweet to which replies are made, for context.

The “Koi Pond” video is a comic sketch. Other replies discuss it, but it’s basically irrelevant to my purpose of citing the “parkour” tweet.

pgroup2

So … context is no context.

Got it.  🙃 

para59r

Another reason to miss Wheatie. She knew how to get rid of those ride along top videos. She told us how, somewhere way back when, but the secret is lost now. Ackkk!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not lost – I’m just lazy. But why not double down on Jackie!!!  😀 

Aubergine

This is my favorite Jackie Chan fight. The last part, with the ladder, is crazy:

Valerie Curren

That was fun! What movie is it in?

Gail Combs

First Strike according to the title.

Valerie Curren

TY 🙂

Aubergine

Police Story 4.

I just watch the cool fight scenes on youtube. I rarely watch a Jackie Chan film. But I loved Shanghai Noon.

Valerie Curren

Thanks. We have Rush Hour as a guilty pleasure every now & then!

cthulhu

To Tuesday……and Beyond!!!!

Thank you, De Pat, for a lovely and inspiring thread.

cthulhu

Can I get a bit more of a hint as to the nature of the special intention?

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

Crowds of People Line New York Streets for a Glimpse of President Trump After Day In Court.

Gail Combs

That is in ‘solidly demonrat NYC’ compare that to the Biden motorcade shown Sunday by Valerie Curren.

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

‘Concerning’: Jonathan Turley Questions Why Judge Who Donated To Biden Was ‘Hand-Picked’ For Trump Trial

George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley said Monday that the judge in the Trump business records trial violated ethics rules with his donation to President Joe Biden’s 2020 election campaign, and questioned why he was presiding over the case at all.

Merchan made a $15 donation to Biden’s election campaign in 2020, a $10 donation to a group called “Stop Republicans” and a $10 donation to a “Progressive Turnout Project,” according to data from the Federal Election Commission (FEC). Turley said that the small size of the donation was irrelevant.

“It is very clear, they say you can’t make political contributions and he did,” Turley said on “Fox and Friends” after co-host Ainsley Earhardt mentioned the donations. “And the fact it is ‘de minimus’ or small, really, I think, misses the point. You make donations to show your support, that is what that $15 did.”

“What’s also concerning for many is that Merchan was not randomly selected, he was hand-picked as the judge for this case, and many of us don’t understand it,” Turley continued. “You have a judge who is donor to the president, whose daughter is a major Democratic operative, you would think this would be an easy call, there are plenty of other judges.”

pgroup2

No Mr Turley, there aren’t plenty of other judges

… who will fix the case.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BQQM!

scott467

Bidenflation advances: Consumers no longer trying to save for college and homes, now just spending on luxuries

Commenter: “I sort of get it. I have this conversation with my wife every so often. Based on the direction the economy is going she is pro save-every-dime. Based on the direction the economy is going, I am promoting getting some supplies, durable goods, even some frivolous items, while our money can still buy it!

So, if I have a $100 today, what can I get for that $100? What will that $100 buy us 6 months from now?

____________

Buy Bitcoin.

In six months, that $100 could easily be worth $200, maybe more.

Early Monday, Bitcoin was $66,309.

At 8:20pm it was at $71,428.

That’s a 7.7% increase in one day.

Or Cleanspark stock, the premier Bitcoin mining company, which had a low of $15.70 and finished the day in after hours trading at $18.90

That’s a 20% increase in one day. The best miners generally go up (or down) nearly 3x what Bitcoin does.

That doesn’t mean buy it and forget about it, you have to pay attention to the market. Bitcoin goes in 4-year cycles, with high volatility in previous cycles. In the past, Bitcoin has seen 80% sell offs. If you get underwater (Bitcoin or Bitcoin stock proxy is worth less than you paid for it), you can take the loss if it isn’t too much, or worst case, you just hold for the next two years, when it starts going back up again.

Or dollar cost average during the bear market to lower your cost basis, and get back in profit sooner, long before the next bull market cycle begins.

It’s a roller coaster, with sometimes multi-month sideways chop, punctuated by sudden upswings in price, before consolidating for the next push upward.

It was much riskier (and so far, more volatile) the last three cycles, before the ETFs were launched and the big institutional investors started buying. So far, that has caused pullbacks to be much less than previous bull markets, because there are so many big investors with deep pockets looking to buy the dip.

So instead of a 30% to 40% correction during the bull market, it has been more like a 10% to 15% correction, before resuming upward pressure.

It seems the hardest part to grasp for people who are new to Bitcoin is that the amount of Bitcoin is finite. There is only so much of it, and only so much that can be produced each day (450 Bitcoin per day, currently).

As more and more people are interested in buying it, there is less and less available for purchase.

It’s basic supply and demand, but for (as far as I know) the first time ever in human history, in the case of Bitcoin, the supply is fixed at 450 per day (will drop to 225 per day in 2028).

The U.S. ETFs alone are buying up to 4,000 per day (sometimes more), and that doesn’t include everyone else in the world. There are only 450 new Bitcoin being mined every day, so the rest has to come from what is available on the exchanges, and that supply is dwindling.

Everyone is waiting for the supply crunch, when one of the ETFs goes to make their 1,000+ daily purchase (Blackrock and Fidelity do the majority of the U.S. ETF daily volume) and it’s all gone.

At the current rate, that should happen before the end of this year.

If investors have bought shares in the ETF, the ETF is required to buy Bitcoin for the fund.

If there isn’t any available except for on the exchanges, then they have to bid higher. If no one offers to sell, they have to bid higher. If still no one is willing to sell, they have to bid higher, and they have to keep on bidding higher until someone is willing to part with their Bitcoin.

The ETF doesn’t have the option of saying “That’s it, I’m not going to pay any more than that, that’s my final offer!“. If someone has bought shares of the ETF, the ETF has to buy Bitcoin to back those shares, so the ETF has to keep raising the bid until someone sells.

This has never happened before, because there has never been any other asset or commodity that has a finite supply.

With stocks, a company can always issue more stock, or do a stock split, to increase the number of shares available. With copper, silver, gold, platinum, etc., they can always explore, locate and produce more to meet demand (it will take some time obviously, but if price rises enough, mining companies are incentivized to find and produce more).

But there is no way to make more Bitcoin, not more than 450 per day.

There have been about 19 million Bitcoin mined since 2009, and there are about 2 million more to go before reaching the 21 million production cap, when Bitcoin mining ends permanently (which will be about 130 years from now, IIRC).

Of the currently existing 19 million Bitcoin, it is estimated that around 5 million have been ‘lost’ (i.e., the password is lost, so it can’t be accessed, so it’s effectively gone).

That leaves around 14 million Bitcoin that is available to be bought or sold, plus the 450 new Bitcoin mined each day.

There are over 8 billion people in the world. 14 million Bitcoin.

The institutions have arrived and they are buying, since the ETFs were launched on January 11th of this year. It was just announced the other day that the state of Wisconsin’s pension fund has started buying the Bitcoin ETFs. They bought $100 million dollars worth. More than half of the world’s largest hedge funds are already allocating to Bitcoin ETFs.

It’s going to be interesting.

Gail Combs

FWIW, for a time Badlands was advertising these guys saying you could get into bitcoin for as little as a dollar. However they are no longer advertised. You would have to ask G-Money (or Patriots in Progress) why they advertise GoldCo instead now.

GMoney: 

https://truthsocial.com/@pappyG45
Patriots in Progress: 

https://truthsocial.com/@PatriotsInProgress
Join our Telegram Channel: https://t.me/bullionbitcoinBS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://badlandsmedia.tv/bitcoin/

“I’ve selected River as my primary referral exchange for clients based on several factors. These include ownership of their own technology stack (eliminating third-party custodians), their provision of the lightning liquidity pool for El Salvador, and boasting the finest onboarding team in the Bitcoin realm. Opting for a company dedicated solely to supporting Bitcoin’s ecosystem, rather than delving into alt-coins, speaks volumes about their integrity and steadfast commitment.”

-GMONEY

pgroup2

You may have already covered this so forgive me if so. What protection does the average bitcoin holder/owner have against govt blocking electronic access, either through IP addresses or URL access [delisting on DNS, for example]?

Seems like a trump card to me [no pun].

Gail Combs

YEAH!

Been there done that. I have an e-mail address that goes DIRECTLY to trash if I try to e-mail friends or even Hubby!

scott467

“What protection does the average bitcoin holder/owner have against govt blocking electronic access, either through IP addresses or URL access [delisting on DNS, for example]?”

_______________

I don’t know enough about the technical Internet aspects to provide a good answer, you would need a techie for that (or at least someone with more technical understanding than I have).

If the gov’t could just block access, I don’t know why anyone would use Bitcoin, because it would defeat the whole purpose.

edit: if one is just looking for price exposure, I would use the ETFs, or a proxy like Microstrategy (ticker: MSTR) or a miner like Cleanspark (ticker: CLSK), or a combination.

If one is looking to take personal custody of Bitcoin, I would recommend one of the multi-signature services, where they create a 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5 signature situation, in order to access your Bitcoin.

If it is 2 out of 3, you have one ‘key’ (code), you keep a second key in a secure location (e.g., Safe Deposit box, or buried, or in a different jurisdiction, etc.), and the multi-signature company holds the third ‘key’.

If anything happens to your primary ‘key’ (e.g., lost in a fire, flood, or simply misplaced, etc.), you still have your backup key and the multi-sig company has the ‘second of three’ necessary to access the Bitcoin. In the unlikely event that something happens to the multi-sig company, you still have access to your own two ‘keys’ which should be stored in different locations.

There are at least 3 or 4 companies who have been providing this service for years now, and they would be able to answer technical questions far better than I would 👍

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I am seeing things that look like vending machines, but claim to sell bitcoin, in convenience stores.

Even if legit I am sure the fees are sky high.

Gail Combs

OR they are selling tokens they call ‘bit coins’ to the gullible.

scott467

Apparently they are very popular in Canadia (and other places). I haven’t seen one yet, but they should be legitimate. No idea what the fees might be, but I would guess those vending machines are for relatively small amounts.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Where does that btc go though? How is it stored? Or more precisely, what do you need to bring to the machine to store it?

I know it’s possible to store BTC “offline” so I imagine it’s something like that.

scott467

Bitcoin always remains on the blockchain, what you actually have custody of is the ‘key’ or password or seed phrase to your ‘wallet’.

There are ‘hot wallets’ which are online, these are only recommended for small amounts, because anything online can be hacked.

I think what you mean regarding ‘offline’ is transferring the Bitcoin to a ‘cold wallet’. A ‘cold wallet’ is sort of like a thumb drive (but specialized for Bitcoin), which is only connected to the Internet when completing a transaction. Some ‘cold wallets’ are never directly connected to the Internet for maximum safety, they are always ‘air gapped’ for security.

If your cold wallet is lost or destroyed, if I understand correctly, so long as you have your seed phrase, you can buy a new cold wallet, and use your seed phrase to reconstitute your account access, using the new cold wallet.

It’s the kind of cryptographic stuff people like you and Coothie would love.

You have a public key (a long string of letters and numerals) and a private key.

The public key only allows Bitcoin to be transferred TO your account, so there is no possible harm from it being public. If someone wants to send you Bitcoin, you send them your public key. Lots of people on youtube or on websites have their public key posted in order to accept donations.

The private key is the one you don’t share with anybody. That key gives you access to spend your Bitcoin or transfer it from one wallet to another (or to an exchange to sell it, etc.).

I’m not sure how a Bitcoin vending machine would work. If I had to guess, you would put cash into the machine, or transfer U.S. dollars from a debit card or Visa / Mastercard, and the vending machine might generate a unique QR-code for the amount you purchased in Bitcoin.

Either a printout to scan later, or an image on the screen that you capture with your cell phone at the moment of purchase.

What you do with it from there I don’t know, I’m not a cell phone person 😁

Valerie Curren

There are ‘hot wallets’ 

Every gold-digger’s dream! What goes around comes around, or what’s old is new again…especially after a boob-job AND a face lift LOL

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ugh, if it needs a QR scan, it’s a non-starter. I never could get those damn things to work.

scott467

That’s just a guess on my part, I’ve never actually seen a Bitcoin vending machine, much less used one.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh and thank you for the clarification as to what goes into the wallet.

scott467

I’m not sure I explained it properly, it’s not that it is overly complicated, but I don’t have a deep source of personal experience to draw from, so it is harder to explain the more technical aspects.

I understand the concepts and the arguments (in support or against) much better than the technical details.

This is (in large part) why the ETFs were such a big deal. It removes all of the need for technical understanding and know-how, and makes it as easy as buying or selling a stock on an online brokerage account.

There are certainly trade-offs regarding ETFs that hardcore Bitcoiners would never accept.

Their favorite expression is “Not your keys, not your coins”, and it’s a valid point from a purest perspective.

When you buy shares in an ETF, you don’t have any ‘keys’, the ETF has the keys.

So for people who are involved with Bitcoin from an ideological standpoint, or from a personal freedom standpoint, wanting to be outside of the Matrix, direct custody is the only way to go.

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scott467

This is an example of what many people consider one of the best cold wallets:

https://coldcard.com/

.

The most common cold wallet is probably one of the Ledger models or a model by Trezor:

https://www.ledger.com/

Ledger has shot itself in the foot recently, with some type of self-induced security breach, so many people won’t use it anymore.

.

Trezor is still a good option, but Trezor and Ledger both have little tiny screens, the ColdCard at the first link looks much easier to use, like a small handheld calculator.

Here is a link to the Trezor website:

https://trezor.io/

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Coldcard is $160…!!

scott467

Yes, that’s about twice what a Ledger costs.

On the other hand, if you own even 1/10th of a Bitcoin ($7,000), then $160 to secure your Bitcoin is a small price to pay.

If you have a whole Bitcoin, or a LOT of whole Bitcoins, $160 is nothing 👍

I think the multi-signature companies charge a 1% fee, so if you have (for example) $250K in Bitcoin, the fee to set up your multi-sig security would be $2,500.

Certainly worth it to anyone who has enough Bitcoin to make it worth their while to secure it.

People spend a lot more for a fireproof and waterproof home safe, which is usually neither waterproof nor fireproof, despite what the advertised rating claims 😁

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, but I wasn’t even contemplating putting that much in.

It represents an entry cost that makes me think twice.

And I don’t even know if it would work with the vending machines. Which, if they take cash, would be nice and anonymous.

scott467

Yes, anonymity is a huge bonus with the vending machines, since there is no ‘KYC’ (know your customer) nonsense involved, if I understand correctly.

I think I read that the Bitcoin vending machines in Canadia have (somehow) a daily or weekly limit of $3k.

I don’t know how the machine would know whether the same person was withdrawing $3K multiple times, if the machine accepts cash and there is no means of personal identification (e.g., KYC).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Now I just have to remember where I saw the thing.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If it can identify the wallet, perhaps. (“Same wallet as earlier…hmmm”)

scott467

It looks like the Trezor Model 1 is $59 direct from the Trezor website.

Trezor has a good reputation, I have never heard or read about any problems with Trezor.

It is always best to purchase direct from the manufacturer, because buying from any 3rd party could result in a cold wallet that has been tampered with, to provide some kind of back-door access.

So that rules out buying any cold wallet on eBay, for example.

Amazon is probably okay, so long as the seller is the manufacturer (I think several manufacturers have Amazon stores in addition to their own company websites), but I would probably rather not chance it, and just buy direct from the manufacturer.

Valerie Curren

That sounds wise 🙂

Gail Combs

In the badlands News Brief, Ghost, in talking about the helicopter crash mentions Rouhani and a ‘certain Anon’ Those Q drops certainly put a different twist on the ‘accident’

…If President Ibrahim Raisi is actually dead, then that really changes the political landscape of Iran, as Raisi was expected to become the next Supreme Leader— with the current Ayatollah effectively in hospice care right now.

But Raisi wasn’t always the odds-on favorite. His predecessor, former President Hassan Rouhani, was once the odds-on favorite to be selected Supreme Leader by the Assembly of Experts, until he was officially disqualified by Iranian courts from consideration just this past January.

There are some really interesting posts about Rouhani by that one infamous anon…

He is referring to these Q drops:

1943

Aug 28, 2018 11:41:01 AM EDT

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: c56a7a No. 2766234 

Watch IRAN.

Something incredible is about to happen.

[Hassan ROUHANI]

The Good People of IRAN have the POWER.

FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

Q

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So Rouhani got tossed by “The Good People of IRAN” And now it looks like he is about to be re-installed.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

1948

Aug 28, 2018 2:40:53 PM EDT

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 965371 No. 2768429 

https://in.reuters.com/article/iran-economy-ROUHANI-sanctions/iran-parliament-censures-ROUHANI-in-sign-pragmatists-losing-sway-idINKCN1LD0DL

[Hassan ROUHANI]

Who paid HUSSEIN to attend HARVARD LAW SCHOOL?

Who is Prince Alwaleed bin Talal?

Why would Prince Alwaleed bin Talal (Saudi Royal) pay HUSSEIN to attend HARVARD LAW SCHOOL?

Was HUSSEIN a prominent political figure or a person of influence at the time?

No.

Who is Valerie Jarrett?

Where was she born?

When did Valerie Jarrett hire Michelle Robinson?

1991

Timeline.

https://www.thisisinsider.com/how-did-barack-and-michelle-obama-meet-2017-10#1991-they-got-engaged-in-a-simple-and-sweet-way-3

Who is Mayor (former) Richard Daley?

Who is Mayor (current) Rahm Emanuel?

HUSSEIN should be VERY nervous.

BRENNAN should be VERY nervous.

KERRY should be VERY nervous.

MERKEL should be VERY nervous.

+29

How were the pallets of cash divided?

How many planes were used to transport?

Who operated the planes?

What ‘shadow’ agency directed operations?

Why wasn’t the money [simply] wire transferred?

US had AUTH to open bank-to-bank transfers.

How do you prevent financial T logs?

How were the cash withdrawals in EU categorized/labeled?

Where did the cash originate from?

What time of day did the withdrawals occur?

Who provided SECURITY?

Why wasn’t Congress notified?

Why was the U.S. Gov’t kept in the DARK?

US law broken?

Did ALL planes land in the same location (airport)?

Why did [1] particular plane land outside of Iran?

Why was a helicopter involved?

[WHO] did the money go to?

HOW DO YOU AUDIT A FOREIGN AID BIG BLOCK TRANSFER?

Did ROUHANI keep ‘unknown’ comms as insurance?

What agency collects ALL FORMS OF DATA?

What agency did @Snowden work for orig?

Did he train on THE FARM?

When did @Snowden join No Such Agency?

Define ‘Contractor’.

Define the ‘PRISM’ program.

What year did @Snowden release spec-details of PRISM?

Mid 2013?

IMPACT-LIMIT NSA’s ability to utilize/collect?

FAKE NEWS push for Congressional restrictions?

OPEN SOURCE PUSH to create COUNTER-DEF?

PURPOSE?

BLUE SKIES FOR CLOWN OP?

When was the Joint Plan of Action (IRAN DEAL) executed?

Late 2013?

Do you believe in coincidences?

Nothing to See Here.

Q

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2180
Sep 16, 2018 12:24:13 PM EDT

Is a shorter version of the drop below.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2181

Sep 16, 2018 12:39:08 PM EDT

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 000000 No. 243 

Sep 16, 2018 12:24:13 PM EDT

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 000000 No. 242 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/16/lisa-page-testimony-collusion-still-unproven-by-time-muellers-special-counsel-appointment.html

No evidence of ‘Collusion’ PRIOR TO MUELLER appointment?

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/16/house-intelligence-russia-transcripts/

[HOUSE OF CARDS]

https://dailycaller.com/2018/02/09/three-democrats-ROUHANI-louis-farrakhan/

Why would [3] D Congressman attend a private dinner w/ Iranian President Hassan ROUHANI [#1 state sponsor of terrorism] in 2013?

>>Rep Keith Ellison (Minnesota)

>>Rep Andre Carson (Indiana)

>>Rep Gregory Meeks (New York)

>>Louis Farrakhan

http://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Oath-of-Office/

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

Define ‘Traitor’.

1. a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust.

2. a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.

Synonym = Renegade

What was the USSS codename for HUSSEIN?

[RENEGADE]

Q

>>242

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1041362405350141952

Timestamp & Content.

12:24

12:25

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/16/house-intelligence-russia-transcripts/

NUNES

AWAKE?

HAPPY SUNDAY!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very interesting!

Gail Combs

I give Badlands a bit of the side eye, but they are very useful as a jumping off spot for research.

Speaking of Badlands there has been a bit of a dust-up.

Kate will no longer do shows
Vigilant news is leaving, That is Ryan DeLarme & Justin DeCamp. DPat often brings their writings.
Jordan Sather will no longer do shows
and the Bunker has been axed. (They were pretty useless anyway)

OH, and I forgot my ‘favorite’ Patrick Gunnels will get more shows. 🙄
I am not sure yet about Patrick’s buddy, Matt Trump, Ph.D. who is a theoretical physicist.

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Gail Combs

Bidenflation advances: Consumers no longer trying to save for college and homes, now just spending on luxuries

That’s a terrible statement about what Americans think of their financial futures, and it’s coming from a very strong source, as the University of Michigan index is one of the country’s most accurate. By spending instead of saving, they are no longer focusing on the future. Savings is the basis for all wealth creation, but, again, it makes little sense to save as inflation continues to go up. Nothing eats savings, or wealth, quite like inflation….

What idiocy. The ASSumption is Americans are TOO DUMB to think.

If you KNOW your $$$ is being devalued by inflation FAST you are going to STORE YOUR WEALTH in something else. Gold, silver non-perishable tradable goods…

You are also going to buy goodies NOW while you can still afford them.

What is being seen is a VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE in our government and financial system.

Aubergine

You’ve got it. We The People know the bad times are coming. We won’t have the money for stuff, so we’re buying it now. Even people who can’t “store wealth” know that they might as well spend what they have now, to have some fun before the shit hits the fan. I know I am.

pgroup2

Just don’t go to Dizzyland.  😆 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yep.

I couldn’t lay hands on more than about a thousand bucks right now.

I’m not poor, just it’s not in cash.

Gail Combs

Biden, After Revoking Trump’s Order Against ICC, Claims Outrage at ICC Warrants Against Israel

There are 2 different courts this one is the George Soros run court.

The International Criminal Court is an Open Society Organization run by George Soros

December 5, 2019 – The International Criminal court located in The Hague, Netherlands is an intergovernmental organization ….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump can really run on this stuff, and start FLIPPING JEWISH DONORS.

Gail Combs

If my internet ever stays up long enough, I am going to try and write something up about the Israel-Hama PSY-OP.

As usual we get Fake News designed to invoke EMOTIONS over reason. The Cabal is very very good at doing that.

Just for the record, I want PEACE, I want criminals to be tried and convicted. And I want the USA to no longer be used as the Cabal’s Piggy Bank and Cannon Fodder!

I am sick to death of the Cabal trying to make me ‘choose sides’ as they have been doing for over the last century or more.

Gail Combs

When I was a kid, in the 1960s, my Doctor got rheumatoid arthritis. Her hands were badly crippled. She went to Canada to try an experimental drug. It worked, stopping the disease in it’s tracks and leaving her pain free.

She helped the Canadian doctor ‘lobby’ the FDA to allow the drug into the USA. It was a “HELL NO!” They would not even allow testing to begin.

She even went on the Joe Pine TV show trying to drum up support. I can remember the camera focusing on her hands as she rapped her deformed knuckles on the podium.

So the FDA has been KNOWINGLY STOPPING CURES for DECADES!

RAC

“This Is Dr. Zach Bush. He Explains How Pharmaceutical Companies Stop Life Saving Cancer Cures With ‘Blocking Patents’ So They Can Continue To Profit From The Treatments”

Using patents was a ploy of the Nazi’s.

Page 40 Hallstein the Nazi lawyer,
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Page 48 Ophuels the Nazi patents expert brought in by Hallstein

Book can be read on the video and PDF downloaded from the video, but I can’t find a separate link to give for the PDF.

https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2020/10/the-nazi-roots-of-the-brussels-eu-book/#GB1AK479

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RAC

Oh and check Page 37

eilert

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Gail Combs

GRRRRrrrr….

So hire them and put them all in a small building with NO HEAT, NO A/C and NO ELECTRIC OR INTERNET in the Chihuahuan Desert in Texas.

scott467

Tell them to &^$# all the way off.

Nobody can tell anyone else who to hire or how to run their business, it’s absurd!

Anyone who tries is probably gay, because only a homo would try to do such a thing in the first place, in which case I’d start asking such a person, just how gay are you, say on a scale of 1 to 10?

That can’t respond to that… they have no response to something like that… they’re not even remotely prepared for that type of question.

It reminds me of my brother in law, who was a cop, and told me about one of the ‘thought interrupters’ he used to de-escalate a situation where a person was enraged or threatening, etc.

He would say, with a perfectly calm voice, “Did you know your Momma has a wooden leg?

He said it was like it froze their minds… they couldn’t process that someone actually said that, so it would interrupt their rage or threatening behavior long enough for them to say “What? What did you just say?

And then he had their attention!

😂 🤣 😂

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Gail Combs

Nah, move them all into the desert. put them into living quarters on site and only allow them to have EVs with dead batteries.

You can have food deliveries of soy and crickets as well as a windmill run well.

MAKE THEM LIVE THE ‘DREAM’

In this way you keep them from doing damage elsewhere.

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Valerie Curren

Having the punishment fit the crime!

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!😉

Valerie Curren

Works for me!

scott467

NATO is a gay organization. Extremely gay.

More gay than the WHO or even the U.N.

Not as gay as WEF, but WEF is a whole other magnitude of gay.

Gail Combs

Actually NATO is PROVEN NAZI!

scott467

And Nazis are rife with homosexuality.

It’s all starting to make sense now… 😂

para59r

From here, the roots of the administrative state go all the way back to the daughter of Sargon the Great. Proof of how bad the administrative state can get may be examined by uncovering what really happened in the Egyptian Flood Myth (working on that, but it seems obvious now .😮🙄😏..😆)

Gail Combs

Looking forward to hearing what you uncover

TheseTruths

Sorry if this is a question coming from ignorance, but how do you uncover what “really happened” in a myth? A myth is just a story, possibly based on some events, but made up.

para59r

Sorry didn’t see your comment until I came back to find what I posted to Ethical Skeptic’s story.

Yes, what you say about a myth is true. Won’t be easy.
Meanwhile the Ethical Skeptics story “Hidden on Plain Sight” is now missing. Last activity was my posting on Sunday 19 May, in the comments to the Dec/Jan story that Towanda pointed out. I went back Monday and Tuesday to see if any response might be hand. I go back today and the story is gone.
No one saved it to the wayback machine so it is gone unless Ethical Skeptic brings it back.

What I had posted.

1. Temp water rise. The Nile gets it’s water from Lake Victoria so lets look South. Lake Victoria and it’s neighboring lakes all are with in the earthquake zone commonly known as the Rift Valley where Africa is still slowly being formed into two continents. A large earth quake may well have destroyed a natural barrier/dam and caused a massive deluge. Abnormal well above the mean flooding has occurred along the Nile in the past that submerged towns and cities. A really massive one is not out of the range of possibility.

2. A full season of Flood. There Exists an Egyptian Flood Myth similar to the Sumerian Flood Myth where God (Enil) grew upset with his people and sent a flood to destroy them. https://www.worldhistory.org/Book_of_the_Heavenly_Cow/

Myths are normally proven to be correct when interrupted correctly.

Topographical Maps show highland on either side of the Nile river at the base of the fan. I can’t get a read on how high, but the maps tend to indicate high enough to flood the Nile all the way back to at least the first and maybe second cataract. The space between the highland where the Nile flows is 21 miles wide between the high elevation depicted on maps. It is not out of the question that this area was damned up to destroy the population down river.  If they could build the pyramids, then a damn that size would likely be no problem. Ancient history is replete enough with rivers being damned up or their courses being changed by man made works and the time it took to do such was often weeks, not months and such a project could of been undertaken during non flood season. Additionally by the time of the Pyramids were built Egyptians were already building earthen works at this time to control the flooding so as to irrigate their fields and allow for cities and towns not to get caught in the annual flooding.  

Side note. The Eye of Oris. That is the Left Wedjat. Relativity benign but for the occult stuff surrounding it. It’s the one we are told all the celebrities use to freak people out with. There exists an earlier Right Wedjat. The eye of RA. This was used to destroy the people of Egypt that were rising against the rule of the master class led by Ra according to the Book of the Holy Cow (Egyptian Flood Myth. (this I did not know until looking into your theory. Always thought it was just Eye of Oris they flash at us, but it may well be the Eye of Ra. )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Ra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Horus

Quick look at Topography for

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Leaving the jpgs off…I’d have to get current pics for them to show again. you can find our conversation here https://www.theqtree.com/2024/05/19/dear-maga-20240519-open-topic-2/#comment-1279344

Gail Combs

WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!

Think mosquitoes Free BBQs!

I watched a bat at a BBQ swooping back and forth over the head of the woman I was talking to. She freaked when I finally pointed out her ‘protector’ skimming past her head.

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Gail Combs

Notice the ear tag (bright red) in the left ear.

Valerie Curren

also the dark eyes, so not an albino

scott467

para59r

“One third are good, one third are between, one third are evil”. Summarization of the “Tripartite Tractate”, that was purged from the gospels as Heresy for being an elitist view and only now exists as part of the Nag Hammadi Scriptures, but history and life experiences keeps validating it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

IMO this end-result observation is not fundamentally in conflict with the idea that people are “hardware” evil/sinners/corrupt but fixable in “software”.

para59r

yes, banned from the gospels because it’s not divinely inspired, thus not the word of God as like all the gnostic stuff. Gnosis means its routed in Sophia (knowledge). Doesn’t make it wrong and may be a good tool for the tool box, but it is exclusionary which was the big fear, and could easily be run to an extreme if in the wrong hands. IMO not wrong to ban it from the Gospel, but it was also eradicated as a line of thought and those holding the thoughts were purged as well.

TheseTruths

Gnostic World View
http://www.gnosis.org/gnintro.htm

All religious traditions acknowledge that the world is imperfect. Where they differ is in the explanations which they offer to account for this imperfection and in what they suggest might be done about it. Gnostics have their own — perhaps quite startling — view of these matters: they hold that the world is flawed because it was created in a flawed manner.

And apparently Gnostics think Genesis is a myth:

Many religions advocate that humans are to be blamed for the imperfections of the world. Supporting this view, they interpret the Genesis myth as declaring that transgressions committed by the first human pair brought about a “fall” of creation resulting in the present corrupt state of the world. Gnostics respond that this interpretation of the myth is false. The blame for the world’s failings lies not with humans, but with the creator. Since — especially in the monotheistic religions — the creator is God, this Gnostic position appears blasphemous, and is often viewed with dismay even by non-believers. 

If the above is true, then of course it was banned from the Bible. It is heresy. Continiuing to read the article, I find it completely antithetical to Scripture and Christianity.

para59r

Yes, considered heresy back then and still today. Interesting theories on creation being flawed.
https://gnosticismexplained.org/the-gnostic-creation-myth/

scott467

Pope: “We are all fundamentally good.”

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King David (by inspiration of God): “They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” (Psalms 14:3, KJV)

Paul (by inspiration of God): “They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” (Romans 3:12)

Paul (by inspiration of God): “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)

John (by inspiration of God): “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1 John 1:8)

John (by inspiration of God): “If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” (1 John 1:10)

Jesus: “And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17)

pat frederick

GA has formed an oversight committee to look into how prosecutors are spending money on cases–ever since the big fanni case came to light. here’s HER response…

FTA
Willis has vowed not to appear before the panel, questioning the authority state lawmakers have to issue her a subpoena.

so she doesn’t believe that the STATE lawmakers have the authority to question HER? that’s freakin attitude and privilege right there. and she’s trying to make it a racial issue.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/21/us-news/fani-willis-suggests-creation-of-georgia-prosecutorial-oversight-panel-is-racially-motivated/

Tonawanda

A few years back Wolf and I disagreed on using the word “enormity” to mean something really enormous, when its etymology (enormitas, deviation from the normal or legal – – nothing to do with size or volume), and the long history solely of its original meaning, logically excluded the completely different modern usage. What rubbed me the wrong way was the mindlessness of the modern usage which was based on something sounding like something else entirely different, like the guy who was fired for correctly using the word “niggardly.”

Wolf’s reasonable and probably more realistic pov (IIRC) was that language always changes over time, sometimes illogically, and that current usage makes a meaning valid through sheer acceptance. We did not discuss the malign (and distorted) use of the suffix “phobia” which would be acceptable under Wolf’s principle.

I can count on one hand the number of Catholics I have met who understand the meaning of Immaculate Conception, as opposed to the hundreds (thousands?) of Catholics who have no idea what it means, convinced as they are by what the phrase sounds like. I have met zero non-Catholics who understand the meaning of the phrase, and who (like the overwhelming number of Catholics) do not even know whose conception it describes.

Theological phrases are not the same as words in common use, but why not just substitute the common understanding for the meaning? Are some meanings worth defending regardless of popular usage?

The word “marriage” has a more recent usage, but it solely reflected a theological concept of millennia. The government changed that meaning not to enhance the lives of a single human being, all of whom always had the power of commitment to another human being regardless of the word used. The government was destroying the theological meaning of the word to advance its destructive goals.

Now I am getting off my hobby horse.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great points, and a great example. The “immaculate conception” does indeed serve as an excellent example which takes a “quantum leap” in changed meaning from intended to unintended, when applied to the common distortion.

Similarly to “beg the question” being “fixable” as “beg the original question”, one could qualify both meanings, and talk of “Mary’s immaculate conception” (vs. that of Christ, even though the latter is something else, really) as a way to recover from the error, but I’m not sure that would actually work, as many (including many “barely” Catholics) would surely say WTF at the idea of Mary needing any prep for her role, if they got that far in any new understanding.

My, oh my, how times have changed!  😅 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They’re not paying attention. Maybe even taking a nap.

kalbokalbs

Music piped into wireless head phone. Whittle the time away.

pat frederick

I never learned the catechism when i was young. only later, when i chose to on my own…and it’s been a while. please correct me if i’m wrong. All of us are born with Original Sin. Mary was immaculately conceived so that she did not have Original Sin and so neither did her child-Jesus.

Valerie Curren

Mary was immaculately conceived so that she did not have Original Sin and so neither did her child-Jesus.”

I believe that that would be contrary to Scripture, in my understanding. Everyone after The Fall was born in Original Sin EXCEPT Jesus. He was w/out Original Sin Because of Who His FATHER is, Not his Mother. Mary was blessed to be the Mother of Our Lord, but she was “conceived in sin” like Every Other Human since Adam & Eve except for her son, The Son of God & Son of Man.

Interesting as I just read the above to my husband, to get his feedback & it sparked a Very Wide Ranging discussion about Who Christ Is & where the line between His “fully God” & “fully man” aspects of His Being might lie. Hubby took the view that Christ “crucified the flesh” in that He overcame His Own fleshly nature. I took the perspective that Christ’s crucifixion was the Perfect Blood Sacrifice, “the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world”. This being that God, having established an impossible standard for humans to meet, offered Himself as the full payment for All sin for All time.

I don’t know that if you break it down whether Michael ultimately believes that Jesus was “fully man” which included at least the possibility of a “sin nature” in “the flesh” & that I look at it slightly differently. We discussed Jesus’ battles with Satan in the wilderness where He was tested. We agreed that He wasn’t actually Tempted because in Scripture it says that God cannot be Tempted. However clearly Christ battled Satan & provides a model for us in crucifying the flesh.

I honestly believe it is an error to attribute Christ’s sinless nature to His maternity. His sinless nature comes from God the Father. Jesus is the God Man, a deep mystery through the ages. Mary was NOT sinless & her conception and birth was a natural occurrence, though clearly overseen by God, as are All conceptions. She is the Mother of Our Lord, so worthy of honor. She Was Not Sinless so she is NOT the co-redeemer (redemptrix) with Christ. These views are extra-Biblical & I believe in error.

No offence is meant here, for I am expressing my understanding & am open to Correction that is solidly Scripturally based on any of these points.

Jesus is the author AND finisher of our faith, thanks be to God Who has gotten us the victory!

Robert Baker

Interesting argument presented. I have only one comment to offer with regards to if Jesus was tempted or could be. Matthew chapter 4 definitely states that Jesus was tempted by the devil. Scripture also says in Hebrews 4:15 that Jesus was tempted in ways familiar to all humanity. However, James 1:13 says that God cannot be tempted by evil. It leaves the reader with something of an interpretive problem. If Jesus was tempted does that mean he is not God? Does the dual nature of Jesus, his divine/human aspect impact how we should resolve the dilemma? I don’t propose how you should adjudicate the question. It seems that your husband and you are well equipped to work through the problem.

TheseTruths

Does the dual nature of Jesus, his divine/human aspect impact how we should resolve the dilemma?

I believe the answer to this is yes.

Valerie Curren

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, which made me want to dig a bit deeper. Here is that passage in Matthew, NIV

Matthew 4

New International Version

Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness

4 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”
4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’[b]”
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
    and they will lift you up in their hands,
    so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c]”
7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[d]”

8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[e]”
11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

Footnotes (note they paste numbered rather than lettered)

Matthew 4:1 The Greek for tempted can also mean tested. Matthew 4:4 Deut. 8:3Matthew 4:6 Psalm 91:11,12Matthew 4:7 Deut. 6:16Matthew 4:10 Deut. 6:13New International Version (NIV)Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+4&version=NIV

So the first footnote references the Greek word that can mean tempted or tested.

This link is to Matthew 4: 1 in “all English Translations” (available at BibleGateway)

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%204:1

Almost all versions shown above render the word in question as “tempted” some as “tested” & a few as “tried”…

I went to look for “tempted” in scripture, as the NIV renders it, using the Blue Letter Bible site & here are results:

https://www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=tempted&t=NIV

“tempted”

occurs 13 times times in 10 verses in the NIV

Page 1 / 1 exact matches (Mat 4:1 – Jas 1:14)

Mat 4:1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

Mar 1:13and he was in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and angels attended him.

Luk 4:2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.

1Co 10:13No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

Gal 6:1Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.

1Th 3:5For this reason, when I could stand it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith. I was afraid that in some way the tempter had tempted you and that our labors might have been in vain.

Heb 2:18Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

Heb 4:15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

Jas 1:13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;

Jas 1:14but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.

The first 3 verses listed above are directly about Jesus’ wilderness experience, the ones in Hebrews refer to Jesus’ temptation & then the ones in James show how God cannot be tempted & his description of temptation “dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.” could not apply to Jesus because as a sinless one it should be impossible for Him to have any evil desires.

The word in question is Lexicon Results

Strong’s G3985 – peirazo

πειράζω

Transliteration

peirazo

Pronunciation

pa-rä’-zo (Key)

Part of Speech

verb

Root Word (Etymology)

From πεῖρα (G3984)

TDNT Reference

6:23,822

Outline of Biblical Usage

to try whether a thing can be doneto attempt, endeavourto try, make trial of, test: for the purpose of ascertaining his quality, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himselfin a good sensein a bad sense, to test one maliciously, craftily to put to the proof his feelings or judgmentsto try or test one’s faith, virtue, character, by enticement to sinto solicit to sin, to temptof the temptations of the devilafter the OT usageof God: to inflict evils upon one in order to prove his character and the steadfastness of his faithmen are said to tempt God by exhibitions of distrust, as though they wished to try whether he is not justly distrustedby impious or wicked conduct to test God’s justice and patience, and to challenge him, as it were to give proof of his perfections.
Many verses use this word which is often translated as tried or tested instead of tempted:

Concordance Results Using NIV

Strong’s G3985 – peirazo

Strong’s Number G3985 matches the Greek πειράζω (peirazo), which occurs 4 times in 35 verses in the Greek concordance of the NASB

Mat 4:1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

Mat 4:3The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”

Mat 16:1The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven.

Mat 19:3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

Mat 22:18But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me?

Mat 22:35One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:

Mar 1:13and he was in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and angels attended him.

Mar 8:11The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven.

Mar 10:2Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”

Mar 12:15Should we pay or shouldn’t we?” But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. “Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.”

Luk 4:2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.

Luk 11:16Others tested him by asking for a sign from heaven.

Jhn 6:6He asked this only to test him, for he already had in mind what he was going to do.

Jhn 8:6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.

Act 5:9Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”

Act 9:26When he came to Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples, but they were all afraid of him, not believing that he really was a disciple.

Act 15:10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

Act 16:7When they came to the border of Mysia, they tried to enter Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus would not allow them to.

Act 24:6and even tried to desecrate the temple; so we seized him.

1Co 7:5Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

1Co 10:9We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes.

1Co 10:13No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

2Co 13:5Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

Gal 6:1Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.

1Th 3:5For this reason, when I could stand it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith. I was afraid that in some way the tempter had tempted you and that our labors might have been in vain.

Heb 2:18Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

Heb 3:9where your ancestors tested and tried me, though for forty years they saw what I did.

Heb 4:15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

Heb 11:17By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son,

Heb 11:37They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—

Jas 1:13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;

Jas 1:14but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.

Rev 2:2I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

Rev 2:10Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.

Rev 3:10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

Here is where some of the above is found: https://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G3985&t=NIV&page=2

This one of the passage in Mark renders almost all translations as “tempted” too:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Mark%201:13

Similarly the passage in Luke renders this word mostly as “tempted”:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke%204:2

So an insight I had in contemplating this situation is that it is clear that The Devil, or Satan was functioning as a Tempter to Jesus, attempting to trip Him up. However Jesus was not “tempted” in the meaning that James states, “each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed”. He was present for the torments inflicted by the Enemy but He was in no way enticed, even in His weakened physical state of 40 days of fasting. That this wilderness experience appears to immediately precede His earthly ministry is telling.

The truth of this passage also stands out: Heb 4:15 “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.” The Enemy attempted to entice Jesus with all kinds of earthly sins but Jesus never succumbed, for He is God so possesses no “evil desire” so cannot be “enticed”.

To my way of thinking it is a distinction with a difference so that the James passage is not actually in conflict with all the renderings of Jesus undergoing the Enemy’s attempts to tempt Him to sin…

Note to Wolf, I thought I’d removed most of the links within this comment but clearly that’s not the case. They mostly appear to refer back to the Bible verses in the websites.

OK, now maybe I “fixed it” by highlighting the text w/ links & clicking the “code block” icon below…hope it works now 🙂

Second edit, will attempt further “code block” actions so the comment will post w/out having to be pulled out of the bin…

Third edit, will try to get links down to 8 or less… 🙂

Forth edit, it looks like there are only 6 links working now but since there’d been so many before maybe this comment still requires moderation…sorry for the hassle, Wolf…

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Valerie Curren

Here’s an attempted repost of a reply to you that is pending moderation but I think I’ve removed Enough links to post:

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, which made me want to dig a bit deeper. Here is that passage in Matthew, NIV

Matthew 4

New International Version

Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness

4 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”
4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’[b]”
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
    and they will lift you up in their hands,
    so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c]”

7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[d]”
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[e]”
11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

Footnotes (note they paste numbered rather than lettered now neither after removing links…hmmm)
Matthew 4:1 The Greek for tempted can also mean tested. Matthew 4:4 Deut. 8:3
Matthew 4:6 Psalm 91:11,12
Matthew 4:7 Deut. 6:16
Matthew 4:10 Deut. 6:13

New International Version (NIV)Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+4&version=NIV

So the first footnote references the Greek word that can mean tempted or tested.

This link is to Matthew 4: 1 in “all English Translations” (available at BibleGateway)

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%204:1

Almost all versions shown above render the word in question as “tempted” some as “tested” & a few as “tried”…

I went to look for “tempted” in scripture, as the NIV renders it, using the Blue Letter Bible site & here are results:

https://www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=tempted&t=NIV

“tempted”
occurs 13 times times in 10 verses in the NIV
Page 1 / 1 exact matches (Mat 4:1 – Jas 1:14)

Mat 4:1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

Mar 1:13and he was in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and angels attended him.

Luk 4:2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.

1Co 10:13No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

Gal 6:1Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.

1Th 3:5For this reason, when I could stand it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith. I was afraid that in some way the tempter had tempted you and that our labors might have been in vain.

Heb 2:18Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

Heb 4:15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

Jas 1:13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;

Jas 1:14but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.

The first 3 verses listed above are directly about Jesus’ wilderness experience, the ones in Hebrews refer to Jesus’ temptation & then the ones in James show how God cannot be tempted & his description of temptation “dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.” could not apply to Jesus because as a sinless one it should be impossible for Him to have any evil desires.

The word in question is Lexicon Results
Strong’s G3985 – peirazo
πειράζω
Transliteration
peirazo
Pronunciation
pa-rä’-zo (Key)
Part of Speech
verb
Root Word (Etymology)
From πεῖρα (G3984)
TDNT Reference
6:23,822

Outline of Biblical Usage [VC note the format lost now]

to try whether a thing can be done

to attempt, endeavour

to try, make trial of, test: for the purpose of ascertaining his quality, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himself

in a good sense

in a bad sense, to test one maliciously, craftily to put to the proof his feelings or judgments

to try or test one’s faith, virtue, character, by enticement to sin

to solicit to sin, to tempt

of the temptations of the devil

after the OT usage

of God: to inflict evils upon one in order to prove his character and the steadfastness of his faith

men are said to tempt God by exhibitions of distrust, as though they wished to try whether he is not justly distrusted

by impious or wicked conduct to test God’s justice and patience, and to challenge him, as it were to give proof of his perfections.

Many verses use this word which is often translated as tried or tested instead of tempted:

Concordance Results Using NIV
Strong’s G3985 – peirazo
Strong’s Number G3985 matches the Greek πειράζω (peirazo), which occurs 4 times in 35 verses in the Greek concordance of the NASB

Mat 4:1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

Mat 4:3The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”

Mat 16:1The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven.

Mat 19:3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

Mat 22:18But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me?

Mat 22:35One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:

Mar 1:13and he was in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and angels attended him.

Mar 8:11The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven.

Mar 10:2Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”

Mar 12:15Should we pay or shouldn’t we?” But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. “Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.”

Luk 4:2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.

Luk 11:16Others tested him by asking for a sign from heaven.

Jhn 6:6He asked this only to test him, for he already had in mind what he was going to do.

Jhn 8:6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.

Act 5:9Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”

Act 9:26When he came to Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples, but they were all afraid of him, not believing that he really was a disciple.

Act 15:10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

Act 16:7When they came to the border of Mysia, they tried to enter Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus would not allow them to.

Act 24:6and even tried to desecrate the temple; so we seized him.

1Co 7:5Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

1Co 10:9We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes.

1Co 10:13No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

2Co 13:5Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

Gal 6:1Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.

1Th 3:5For this reason, when I could stand it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith. I was afraid that in some way the tempter had tempted you and that our labors might have been in vain.

Heb 2:18Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

Heb 3:9where your ancestors tested and tried me, though for forty years they saw what I did.

Heb 4:15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

Heb 11:17By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son,

Heb 11:37They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—

Jas 1:13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;

Jas 1:14but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.

Rev 2:2I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

Rev 2:10Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.

Rev 3:10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

Here is where some of the above is found: https://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G3985&t=NIV&page=2

This one of the passage in Mark renders almost all translations as “tempted” too:
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Mark%201:13

Similarly the passage in Luke renders this word mostly as “tempted”:
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke%204:2

So an insight I had in contemplating this situation is that it is clear that The Devil, or Satan was functioning as a Tempter to Jesus, attempting to trip Him up. However Jesus was not “tempted” in the meaning that James states, “each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed”. He was present for the torments inflicted by the Enemy but He was in no way enticed, even in His weakened physical state of 40 days of fasting. That this wilderness experience appears to immediately precede His earthly ministry is telling.

The truth of this passage also stands out: Heb 4:15 “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.” The Enemy attempted to entice Jesus with all kinds of earthly sins but Jesus never succumbed, for He is God so possesses no “evil desire” so cannot be “enticed”.

To my way of thinking it is a distinction with a difference so that the James passage is not actually in conflict with all the renderings of Jesus undergoing the Enemy’s attempts to tempt Him to sin…

Note to Wolf, I thought I’d removed most of the links within this comment but clearly that’s not the case. They mostly appear to refer back to the Bible verses in the websites.

OK, now maybe I “fixed it” by highlighting the text w/ links & clicking the “code block” icon below…hope it works now https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f642.svg

Second edit, will attempt further “code block” actions so the comment will post w/out having to be pulled out of the bin…

Third edit, will try to get links down to 8 or
less… https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f642.svg

Forth edit, it looks like there are only 6 links working now but since there’d been so many before maybe this comment still requires moderation…sorry for the hassle, Wolf…

Fifth & separate attempt to post, much of the formatting of the comment was lost, so IF this substitute comment posts it’s absolutely up to you if you want to “authorize” the original version one, currently pending moderation, to post.

Sorry, again, for the hassle, Wolf–Blessings!

pgroup2

You perched on your hobby horse is quite beneficial to the rest of us. ThanQ.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Incidentally this non-Catholic knew it has to do with the birth of Mary.

Unless that’s actually wrong, you now know one.

And if it is wrong, I want to be corrected.

Tonawanda

Yay! A first!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I heard it from another non-Catholic.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

all of whom always had the power of commitment to another human being regardless of the word used

Yes, but that which is labeled marriage comes with a host of legal implications and benefits.

In other words marriage has a bunch of theological meanings…and legal meanings. And we haven’t been able to separate the two; so those people with the power of commitment (but it’s not a marriage) don’t get the legal benefits. There is in some places something called a civil union, and that could work but then the law considers it different from a marriage anyway. If instead, it were set up so that all marriages (solely a church thing) were also civil unions, but not all civil unions were marriages, the law could concern itself with civil unions, the church could concern itself with marriages, and gays would likely be happy with civil unions most of the time. (There’s always be some dickweed who insists other people conform their ideology or theology to his wishes, but that’s not a gay thing, that’s a dickweed thing.)

pat frederick

good article about the way government has bloated itself and without accountability has metastasized into the blob
FTA
With all that accountability, how did our government reach a point where:
An agency founded to promote clean air and water (EPA) is addressing bovine flatulence?
An organization created to stamp out malaria by spraying mosquitoes (CDC) has dictated an eviction moratorium and is promoting gun control?
A law enforcement bureau (FBI) is instigating crimes to solve them?
An agency intended to gather information about national security threats (CIA) is using foreign intelligence assets to spy on a political party?
Those things and more are happening because our government has managed to break our systems of accountability, allowing radicals and miscreants to run wild. Whistleblowers are no longer protected by the DoJ. Criminal referrals from IGs are not prosecuted by the DoJ (e.g., Lois Lerner and Andrew McCabe). Congressional oversight is powerless without DoJ enforcement. (When Congress referred Eric Holder for prosecution, Attorney General Eric Holder declined to prosecute Eric Holder.) Political oversight of the bureaucracy fails when the swamp has more power than the elected leadership — as Chuck Schumer warned that it does. Voter oversight is undercut by DoJ collaboration with the media to promote propaganda and filing lawsuits against states to prevent fraud-proofing our election processes.
When Eric Holder declared himself Barack Obama’s “wingman,” he effectively redirected the DoJ from “equal justice under law,” to “guarding the six” of its political benefactors. The resulting corruption at the DoJ has undermined the systems of accountability throughout our government. Problems can be detected, but they are rarely corrected. Nobody serving the bureaucracy suffers the consequences of breaking the law.
Countless essays have examined the forces working to corrupt our government:
The communist march through our institutions,
Ill-advised social justice pursuits,
Mission creep in response to emerging global conditions, and
Political polarization of the electorate.
But those corrupting influences were only effective because the systems of accountability no longer keep our ship on state on its intended heading. Federal employees (2.9 million of them) aren’t held accountable for serving the needs of the citizens. Instead, they are focused on increasing the size and power of the federal government.
The federal government cannot be trusted to correct itself. Its solution to every issue is more government — rarely disciplinary action. When our national security apparatus failed us in the days before 9/11, nobody was fired for missing the clues. The federal government addressed the problem by creating the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and massively expanding the power of government. Yet now, we’re funding and equipping terrorist organizations and military-aged males on the terrorist watchlist are crossing our border daily — with permission.
The DHS didn’t improve our national security because it, like other departments, isn’t held accountable for serving us rather than the bureaucracy. Violations of the public trust — and even the law — are easily detected, but the guilty rarely face consequences. Federal accountability is broken. An intervention is desperately needed.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/05/our_federal_government_needs_an_intervention.html

pat frederick

TRUE
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pgroup2

When DJT is done signing all the executive orders, he should announce that full pardons are available for certain members of the Biden clan in exchange for full disclosure of all the dealings of the BCF [Biden Crime Family] and forfeiture of all ill gotten gains.

The Corvette can be placed in front of the Capitol. It’s plaque will read, “This vehicle was recovered from a corrupt politician and is the property of U.S.A. taxpayers.”

Gail Combs

I would think it would work better if they were brought in one by one and the Fear of the ALMIGHTY was put into them.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Simple prisoner’s dilemma.

Those of you who talk and turn on the others (and forfeit) will be immune.

Put the deal to them one by one and do not allow them to talk to each other.

kalbokalbs

6AM raid where they are all picked up. Isolated and given ultimatums OR face prosecution for everything they may have done. With harshest punishment allowed.

Gail Combs

Steve,
Given most are psychopaths they will turn so fast your head will spin.

Of course I am ALSO in favor of broadcasting far and wide the LIST of offences they have confessed to. 😆

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Tuesday, May 21, 2024

“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.” 

Ephesians 6:11 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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duchess01

STRENGTHEN MY HEART

Have mercy on me, my Lord and my God;
For I am distressed – in chains I am shod;
My tears flow like rivers – raging from strain;
My heart is pierced – my throat aches in pain!

My life spent in sorrow – and in deep regret;
My sins are before me – I cannot forget;
In repentance I seek You – for right relief;
Your loving kindness is – my refuge – belief!

Lord – affliction – has broken down my strength;
From helplessness, stress – I suffer at length;
My foes have encompassed me – all around;
They ravage me daily – destruction bound!

I trust in You, Lord – take comfort in You;
Come to my aid – Lord – Refresh me anew;
My life is in Your hands – if it be Your Will;
Calm the waters – from their raging – be still!

Feed me – knead me – with Your nourishing grace;
Through faith without fear – my weakness erase;
Infuse me with courage – and strengthen me;
Help me be steadfast – a stronghold like Thee!

Let me be glad and rejoice in Your love;
Assured in Your goodness sent from above;
Let me not – for one moment – be fearful;
Keep me far from unsure – doubtful – tearful!

Free me from distress – of body and mind;
Help me walk self-assured – no longer blind;
With my life in Your hands – deliver me;
From the throes of my foes – let me be free!

Strengthen My Heart – as only You know how;
Pour forth Your knowledge – understanding now;
Send in Your angels – with reinforcements;
Lift up my spirit – in inch increments!

Send forth Your Spirit – to enlighten me;
With knowledge – understanding – wisdom be;
A tower of strength – instilled in my heart;
Let not Your Spirit – from me ere depart!

Strengthen My Heart – my Lord and my King;
Let the indwelling Spirit – His power bring;
Your justice – Oh Lord – from on high rain down;
Let Your Heavenly Grace – be forever my crown!

D01: 09/30/2013


para59r
duchess01

🥰

PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you so much for your poem today, and for the wonderful inspirational things you put on the board every day. You can have no idea how important your poem you posted today is for so many people — including Yours Truly.
Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.

duchess01

Psalm 91.The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing

#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-8GLitn-KQ&t=0s
____________________________

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.

#faith #god #psalms

Pray Everyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUPiqPMs8M&t=2s
______________________________

HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️

pat frederick

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It also helps if you let the money dry out when you pull it out of the clothes washer, first. A lot lighter that way.

But even then, a kraine would be unable to do it all at once.

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One billion is ten pallets of hundred dollar bills. A trillion is ten thousand pallets. Those are shown in the infographic. Look at the trillion dollar graphic and divide by ten, a thousand pallets of $100 bills.

pat frederick

thank you professor for straightening me out…lol

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

remember to be sure to dry the money out after laundering it. That’s the important part, the rest is incidental.

😀

pat frederick

😚

pat frederick

so he created it and his wife and kids have appointed positions…nice gig
FTA
World Economic Forum founder and executive chairman Klaus Schwab will be stepping back from his role running the global gathering since he founded it in 1971.
The Forum operates much like a family business, with Schwab’s children appointed to high-ranking positions and his wife Hilde heading the organization’s foundation and awards ceremonies in Davos.
In recent years, the Forum has shifted its focus towards the center, and away from liberal politics, Semafor previously reported.

https://www.semafor.com/article/05/21/2024/klaus-schwab-says-hes-stepping-down-as-world-economic-forum-head

TheseTruths

In April, he was supposedly seriously ill in the hospital, or dead, based on an online satirical story.

He’s 86 years old, and the WEF is changing its governing structure.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/business/money-report/world-economic-forum-founder-klaus-schwab-to-step-back-from-executive-role/3864416/

• The World Economic Forum confirmed Tuesday that founder Klaus Schwab is moving away from the day-to-day management of the organization after more than 50 years at the helm.

• The forum said that the move was part of a multiyear strategy to change its management structure, shifting governance to a president and managing board.

• The 86-year-old’s succession plan has been the source of much speculation over recent years, although the organization has remained tight-lipped about its intentions until now.

para59r

Very short but disturbing vid, but more disturbing is the headline itself. The only ones that might shrug it off are those here that have been working on non MS systems. The rest of us will want more information. Any impression that the vid leaves that this will be just a local thing should be dismissed out of hand. If it exists for you, it will exist for others to exploit at will.

Microsoft Announces Technology That Takes Screenshots of Everything You Do: ‘This Is Pretty Creepy’ [VIDEO]

Gail Combs

Microsoft is the son of a well known Eugenicist. And is also a Eugenicist who has used vaccines to ‘reduce the population’ in 3rd world countries. However the GOAL of 1 billion or less humans has NOT been reached, so is it any wonder that his company wants to know WHO they need to OFF in the next round?

pgroup2

I think that’s a great thing. Install it in every politician’s office with the results stored in an A I server farm for the public to review.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_lol: 

While we use Linux/Ubuntu.

We do not have MicroSpy in our house.

para59r

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“It’s Insane”: Big Telecom Pushes Bad Cell Tower Deals on “Literally Hundreds” of Schools

Article well written. Somewhat comprehensive and worrisome but it sticks with the irradiation and environmental effects side of the story. The other side of the story would be mind control which is equally irksome and at some point soon will need a deeper dive.

pat frederick

WHAT THE HELL???
they’ve been doing it all along and that seems so wrong. the “official” transcript has been altered to make the maggot appear less confused and addle brained. i thought the official record was an OFFICIAL record. will historians know what a COMPLETE MORON this “president” was?
T. Turtle
May 21, 2024 10:08 am
The White House is once again walking back statements and actually changing the official transcript of the speech FJB gave at the NAACP dinner. This is after his horrific commencement speech at Morehouse College in which he told black graduates that “Democracy” has been terrible for Black Americans. Quite frankly, his speech at Moorehouse was spot on. “Their Democracy” has been terrible for ALL Americans. It’s time to get away from “their democracy” and back to our Constitutional Republic.
“White House Issues NINE Corrections to Biden’s NAACP Speech”
The White House has had to issue nine corrections to the official transcript of Joe Biden’s speech at the annual NAACP dinner in Detroit, Michigan, on Sunday.
Excerpts:The official transcript was edited for both factual and pronunciation errors.
The first correction came early in the speech when Biden referred to a “pandemic” while he was Barack Obama’s vice president. The White House edited it to say “recession.”
On my watch, more Black Americans have health insurance than ever in all of history. I protected and expanded the Affordable Care Act, saving millions of families $800,000 in prem- — $8,000 in — a year in premiums,” Biden babbled. This glaring factual error was corrected to say $800
Biden continued, “We have more African-American, we have more women, we have more minorities in our administration than any other administration in all of history. That’s why we’re doing so damn well.”
Hmmm
That Press Secretary is doing a bang up job.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/white-house-issues-nine-corrections-bidens-naacp-speech/

pat frederick

so now red Lobster is filing for protection in bankruptcy

Michael McDonald

@ElectProject
A hedge fund bought the company, sold off all the land Red Lobster restaurants are located on, leased the land back to Red Lobster, and jacked the rent. Just so you know what is really going on here

gil00

World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab steps back from executive post

World Economic Forum founder and executive chairman Klaus Schwab will be stepping back from his role running the global gathering since he founded it in 1971.

Schwab announced his intentions in an email to staff on Tuesday that was shared with Semafor by a person connected to the organization.

He will be stepping down as executive chairman and transitioning to a role as non-executive chairman, he said, adding the change in his role is pending approval by the Swiss government.

In a statement, a spokesperson for the Forum said that the organization is “transforming from a convening platform to the leading global institution for public-private cooperation.” The Forum’s governance structure is set to change as a result of that evolution, the spokesperson said, and Schwab “will transition from Executive Chairman to Chairman of the Board of Trustees” by January 2025.

Schwab has not named his successor, but said that over the last year, the group’s executive board, “under the leadership of President Børge Brende, has taken full executive responsibility.”

Brende is a former Norwegian conservative leader.

https://www.semafor.com/article/05/21/2024/klaus-schwab-says-hes-stepping-down-as-world-economic-forum-head

Brende profile:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B8rge_Brende

PAVACA

gli00
Thank you for this.

Who knew that the WEF is a “recognized international organization” by the WEF – Swiss Federal Council signed document on 23 January 2015? The document is the “Host State Agreement.”
https://weforum,org/history/2015.html
And here, a better explanation (Italian website but it’s in English):
https://italiarappginevra.esteri.it/litalia-e-ooii/commercio-internazionale/world-economic-forum-wef/
That’s why the Swiss government has to “approve” the switch-out from Klaus Schwab to his successor.

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Gail Combs

Oh Brother! From that website

World Economic Forum (WEF)

History, mandate, main objectives and recent developments:Created in 1971 as a non-profit foundation based in Geneva, the Forum is independent, impartial and not tied to particular interests. 🙄💩The World Economic Forum is an almost international organization (whose status has recently been recognized) for public-private cooperation. It involves the main exponents of the company – CEO, Heads of State, Ministers and political leaders, experts and academics, international organizations, young people, innovators and representatives of technology and civil society – in an impartial space with the aim of driving a positive and global change [They forgot to add FOR THE OLIGARCHY] through targeted programs along three fundamental strategic axes: the fourth industrial revolution, the management of problems related to common goods, global security.The current activities of the Forum are divided into System Initiatives….

So We now know exactly who they are talking about when they say ‘OUR Democracy’ and it certainly is NOT rule by the peons.

gil00

Ok. Ty. I thought it was wuerd, but of course his family is taking control.

pat frederick

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Gail Combs

  :wpds_shock:  I never made those connections. Interesting.

pat frederick

i didn’t either

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A tl;dr version of my point would be not that the shooting is staged to cover the other event, but the (already existing) shooting is put ON STAGE to cover the other event.

Gail Combs

AND they always leave out the Black on Black Chicago gang shooting and the Black on white shootings.

That slims the number down quite a bit.

The Zimmerman ‘White Hispanic’ shooting was a great example since Zimmerman was part black. But hey, the Fake News didn’t give a shit.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They make money selling shit, they don’t give it.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_lol:  That is one way to put it!

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Valerie Curren

& how the cops shoot & kill Way more whites than blacks, including when percentages of a population are considered, iirc.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The problem is that school shootings are nearly a daily event now.

So pick ANY day something important is happening, there will be a school shooting.

So I don’t believe they’re staging the shooting to distract.

But it does make the job of distracting us easier, because they can just go to the shooting du jour and make it the event of the day.

Gail Combs

I did not realize there were so many.

WIKI

This is a list of mass shootings that took place in the United States in 2023

Mass shootings are incidents in which several people are victims of firearm-related violence, specifically for the purposes of this article, a total of four or more victims. A total of 754 people were killed and 2,443 other people were injured in 👉604 shootings.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

During Trump’s term flags would be lowed for school shootings, and it seemed as if the things were ALWAYS at half mast for some reason or another.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I personally believe Charleston was staged as a multi-goal op, with the primary goal being blameless Demmunist assassination of Clementa Pinckney, while framing Trump. Both designed to get Hillary into the WH.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

To be honest, I don’t even remember what “Charleston” is. So much crap.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – so much.

That was Dylann Roof, who got a gun approved by FIB “bY mIStaKe”. He killed the black reverend / community organizer who had just talked to Hillary, and was thinking about putting his support behind Bernie instead, just prior to the primary in South Carolina.

RAC

“Journalist Tucker Carlson became the host of a show on Russian television
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson began hosting his program on the Rossiya 24 TV channel. It was called TUCKER.”

https://t.me/intelslava/60724

RAC

Lot of adverts, but he’s on there…

https://smotrim.ru/brand/70525?amp=&amp=

pat frederick

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Brave and Free
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Tones? WTF? He’s throwing out a lot of phrases that have meanings…when they’re properly used (like “angle of incidence”) but they just don’t mean anything here.

He talks about repeatedly dividing light by two…and get to sound…which at least half-assedly might mean something but he’s very sloppy in his terminology. He was just talking about wavelength and you certainly don’t want to keep dividing THAT by 2; you then end up with higher and higher frequencies and you want to go lower and lower. Of course maybe he knows this and just can’t explain it well. Take your frequencies and divide over and over again, the 500 THz (trillions of cycles per second) of yellow light (usually given as 600 nm) will eventually get down to something in our audible range of 20-20,000 Hz. But then…it will still be electromagnetic radiation (very low frequency radio) and not sound (which is pressure waves in air).

So making allowances for not knowing the words to go with the concepts, he’s making *some* sense here. Or, he doesn’t know what he’s trying to say at all, and just coincidence. I don’t know; I’d have to talk with him and get him to slow down and figure out what he thinks the words mean.

It’s like hearing someone talking about the thingamabobs in his car, and valves, and you finally start to suspect he’s talking about tires, but for some reason isn’t using the word “tire”. He might be saying something reasonably intelligent just not in a way you understand. Or…he might not actually be talking about tires, you’re just framing it that way trying to make some sense of what he’s saying.

What I can’t see is how any of that connects to the periodic table, unless he’s thinking of spectral emission lines, but they don’t relate to each other like he’s saying.

As to periodic tables, there are many many ways you can lay things out, everything from just a simple list (boring) to something like he shows. We use the one we usually see because it has the most utility for showing relationships between elements (something his semicircles really don’t do; they show adjacent elements but don’t really give you the vertical relationships, which are largely what led to the table in the first place.

Here are just a few examples. I actually have a dead tree book with dozens more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_periodic_tables

Even our “square” table can sometimes be extended by pulling those bottom two footnote rows back into the main table, which is where they truly belong. That makes it much wider and the usual format fits nicely on a sheet of paper. It’s sort of like the way Alaska and Hawaii are put down in the corner. You know that’s not where they really are (and hopefully remember they’re not to the same scale) but if you showed them properly you’d have a map with a lot of ocean and Canada on it too.

Valerie Curren

Some of the periodic table info Might be connected to material that this video discusses. Within the video the presenter discusses a new way of looking at protons & neutrons & how they are each made up of 1000+ (he gives Exact numbers, one digit apart for P’s & N’s) particles & he is focusing more on light & it’s properties as a particle vs a wave & the fact that it accelerates & decelerates.

I would love to get your thoughts on this info for it’s above my paygrade, but quite intriguing. A number of the commenters at youtube refer to the guys in the above video, iirc, so there is likely some type of correlation/connection of this material.

from when I shared this late yesterday so no one saw it…

https://gab.com/f1assistance/posts/112474442724622788

this is a site he references that explains some of it

https://dipoleelectronflood.com/

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The concept of “destroying physics” is woven throughout an Amazon Prime show, Three Body, that I’ve been making my way through. It is interesting & creative but also suspect since it is likely done by China…

https://www.theqtree.com/2024/05/20/dear-kmag-20240520-joe-biden-didnt-win-%e2%9d%80-open-topic/#comment-1280246

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Too long…I did start on it yesterday .

But current theory says protons and neutrons each have three quarks in them (not thousands), the difference is in the mix of quarks. A proton will have two up quarks and a down quark, a neutron will have one up quark and two down quarks. Downs are slightly more massive than ups.

An up quark has a +2/3 electric charge, a down quark has -1/3. If you do the arithmetic it turns out a proton has +1 charge total and the neutron has 0 charge total.

This is something physicists are fairly confident of; their data is consistent with it being true.

Valerie Curren

His explanation is fascinating & he uses multiple illustrations from various sources, including Fermi-Lab, & one of those colliders, CERN, I think, to explain some of it.

I usually don’t watch such long videos either, fwiw. I can’t do justice to his theories for I only partially understood but the part w/ 2 dark/black & 2 light/white “particles” where they appeared like squares but were 4 balls in a 2X2 2-D square (I wonder if they might Really be a 2X2X2 3-D cube actually?) was interesting & these images showed in the pictures he was discussing (all on his computer screen in the video). I think his views are unconventional but apparently Might be supported by some of the existing evidence, fwiw…

It sounds like Some of his theories are explaining observable phenomena that has thus far eluded comprehensive explanation.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well he’s showing that picture…but never adequately explains what it’s a picture OF, at least not as of 6:22. I literally have no idea what he’s trying to say here, because he has set no context.

Going to quit again.

Valerie Curren

He also used some terms w/out explanation that I found confusing. I think they were in relation to light going through a pinprick but it was a term I’d not heard before (but could be common knowledge to people familiar with that arena)…

Thanks for attempting to dive in a bit 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He kept talking about venturis which are an aerodynamic concept.

Valerie Curren

Ok, that might be the term, but what he kept referencing was how images of light in motion acted & it seemed that the “venturis” was a pinch point for the light. But because he was also referencing particles the aerodynamic part could actually be correct. I think he was trying to say that there is actually substance to light & aspects of its behavior can be observed & certain theories, like what he promotes, explain some of this observed phenomena in a way that more typical scientific theories do not.

He could be some type of crank or he could actually have stumbled onto something that “captured” science doesn’t want to acknowledge or address. I’m too ignorant to evaluate, plus I enjoy a tin foil hat on occasion, about the only kind of hat I’ll choose to wear 😉 😉

Valerie Curren

Did you check out this site he references which has a more coherent approach to presenting info, though perhaps more at the layperson level?

https://dipoleelectronflood.com/

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I just did, and parts of this are just fricking ridiculous. Other parts are confusing, though that could just be bad writing. He seems to use the term nucleus interchangably with proton or neutron…but I can’t be sure that I’m just not understanding it yet.

But this is rather bad:

“The Muon neutrinos are fixed sized solid Black particles that never change size and do not emit or absorb or reflect but they attract the white particles very strongly. That is the Strong Nuclear Force. All flavors of Muons are exactly the same size and shape in our experiments as seen. The color is the spin rate and blue is fastest and red slowest.

The Muons are the Dark Matter and Gravity that we have been searching for. We are normally unable to see Dark Matter (muons) because the dark Muon core is always surrounded by the White Electron coating we never have een the Dark part until it is separated and sits on top of the White. This simply blocks the white so we see the Black balls on the White Shower.”

First he is talking about muon neutrinos. Then he talks about muons. Very different animals. NEITHER particle participates in the strong nuclear force. (Also, a muon has a mass far too big for there to be hundreds of them inside a proton…and it’s unstable.)

And there’s no way that muons are dark matter, and there’s no way that whatever dark matter is, it’s inside protons. We think there is dark matter because all of the visible matter in the universe (protons and neutrons, mostly by mass, these make up “ordinary” matter) isn’t enough to account for a lot of gravitation effects we see “out there”, and yet he’s trying to say the dark matter is part of ordinary matter. If dark matter were actually a part of a proton, the proton would have to be six or seven times heavier than it actually is, and there’d never have been any mystery over dark matter at all.

Valerie Curren

TY, I partially understood your explanation here 🙂

I had to keep scrolling down the page to look at the images of the different particles. It would help if he would “equate” his terminology w/ the traditional terms.

I Think he is saying that the muons are positively charged particles at the core & possibly in alternating layers in levels of the “eggshell” (he has 2 versions of the proton construction) that are surrounded by an “electron” shell.

If the core is a “neutron” then the “muons” & “electrons” have the same number, but if it’s a “proton” then there is one more “muon” than there are “electrons”.

Now I might (probably am) misunderstanding it but I think this “dense ball of particles” (my description) is confusing unless the typical atomic model also describes “electrons” at the core/nucleus of an atom.

Chemistry is a Long Time ago for me but I thought that the core/nucleus of the atom was made up only of protons & neutrons with electrons orbiting in various “shell” patterns, with Hydrogen w/ the most basic spherical shell.

If my understanding is correct then by him using the term “electron” for the negatively charged “micro-particles” (my term again) in his model at/surrounding the core of a proton or neutron this adds to significant confusion.

I believe he said that the “electron” has almost no mass & the mass is mostly in the “muon”. If so then he could actually be proposing that protons & neutrons are made up of electrons & muons bound together in rough spheres w/ the “typically described electrons” of standard chemistry/physics (as in Not his Dipole Theory) orbiting around these positively & negatively charged particle clusters.

I guess that Part of the Bottom Line of his theory is that Protons & Neutrons are not the smallest parts of the atom but are each made of much smaller parts, “All Protons are odd-numbered dipoles of approximately 1823 dipoles and Neutrons are even numbers of dipoles of about 1824.”

Perhaps the “dipole” is just a term of art for these much smaller muon/electron combo components, as in 2 (magnetic?) poles, a positive & a negative charge joined together so that the charges cancel each other out.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The problem is:

the muon is a negatively charged particle; he says its positively charged. The negative charge was known pretty much the instant muons were discovered; it would have been one of the characteristics of the cloud chamber track.

It’s unstable; it breaks down in two millionths of a second, via the weak interaction. It would really suck if protons and neutrons blew up in less than second because their constituents did.

The muon doesn’t participate in the strong interaction; it’s a lepton.

Neutrions don’t participate in the strong interaction either; if they did they wouldn’t be so ballbustingly hard to detect. He once talks about muon neutrinos, the rest of the time he talks about muons.

The muon’s mass is about two hundred of these units he seems to think protons and neutrons are made out of (they are approximately the mass of an electron; his counts are very close to the proton/electron mass ratio). So there can’t be huge numbers of them inside a proton.

This is all pretty well established.

Yet I am supposed to believe it’s responsible for the strong force, is the explanation for dark matter, and is part of a proton?

Either he’s making something else up and calling it a muon (in which case he should say so) or he’s simply throwing out impressive-sounding words he doesn’t understand the definition to.

Valerie Curren

Do you have a layperson caliber source that explains leptons & the strong & weak forces? I’m butting up against my ignorance here obviously.

I appreciate you taking the time to hash it out a bit 🙂 It’s fairly embarrassing that I was basically a chem major w/ a bio minor, though pre-med, back in the 80’s for this side of my brain is Quite out of shape (obviously) LOL

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Do you have a layperson caliber source that explains leptons & the strong & weak forces? I’m butting up against my ignorance here obviously.

My physics series?

cthulhu

Your physics series did a bang-up job of it, IMHO.

Valerie Curren

LOL You caught me where I missed a number of your posts, that I still hope to go back & read & Attempt to comprehend   :wpds_oops: plus I can always claim “baby brain” where having kids did impact my mental skills, & not exactly for the better 🙃 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Depending on how far back you want to go, historically, 9 (discovery of the electron), 13, 17, 19, 20, 25, 26, and 28. Some of the other ones have titles concerning quantum stuff and wouldn’t hurt either. Others have to do with astronomy.

Valerie Curren

Thank you for this heads up! I wish I had a way to “stick” your comment to something so I can find it when I Hope to get around to such reading. I think I’m going to email it to myself & give it a star so it Might be easier to find!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I came up with that list by reading the titles in the sidebar.

Valerie Curren

TY 🙂 I sent it to myself for future reference 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

25 talks about muons, and the different classes of particles, so it may be most responsive to your question. On the other hand, it might assume knowledge from earlier parts.

Valerie Curren

I REALLY wish that I could retain new knowledge much better than I actually do now…sigh…old dog, new tricks dilemma 🙁

cthulhu

Steve’s series actually does a really good job of building the whole shebang, step-by-step.

Valerie Curren

I missed some when out of town & never got back into the swing of the series then…or yet…

cthulhu

Hopefully yet. It is really well-done and probably should be made into a book some day.

Valerie Curren

Steve really does have a gift!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Perhaps the “dipole” is just a term of art for these much smaller muon/electron combo components, as in 2 (magnetic?) poles, a positive & a negative charge joined together so that the charges cancel each other out.

Actually a dipole is a standard term. But you need a positive and a negative end on an electric dipole and muons and electrons are both negative. But I’m not sure he’s using it right; he’s saying a proton is one less diple than a neutron, but subtracting a dipole doesn’t change the charge because the total charge of a dipole is zero (what makes it a dipole is there’s some distance between the positive and negative parts).

[Every magnet is a dipole, a magnetic one; there’s a north and south pole separated from each other by some distance.]

If there are 1823 muon-electron pairs inside a proton, somehow…well, a muon is about 200 times the mass of an electron. So the proton would come in at 1824×201 or 364,800 times the mass of the electron. Unfortunately the correct number is 1836.

Really this is making no dang sense to me.

Valerie Curren

So his theories, & terms he’s using, appear to be Way Outside the “norms” which adds to the confusion.

Is the atomic weight a well established, reproducible “fact”? If it is then his theory “ought” to account for such info.

The dark & light particles, muons & electrons, as he calls them, do appear to be clearly seen in their 4 sphere “photon” form in the video however…

I’ve got the video cued up to where these 4 part “photons” appear to be captured in some of the images. If his theories are in error, what do you think is being imaged there for there are clear dark/black & light/white aspects to it?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

All of the masses I mention, as well as the proton/electron mass *ratio*, are pretty solid. Some of that stuff goes back to at least 1920.

Valerie Curren

I figured that something like that was the case. TY These are details in the Periodic Table, iirc.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, not there, because we are talking about particles smaller than atoms.

Valerie Curren

I’m sorry, I thought that atomic weight was part of the PT too…my bad.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Atomic weight is…but nothing I saw mentioned it, everything I’ve seen so far is him talking about subatomic particles.

Valerie Curren

I guess I was perhaps misusing the numbers you presented thinking that they were related to atomic weight not the relative weights of the subatomic particles in question…my bad…again  🙄 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Having skimmed through #25 it’s probably the best single one for you to read.

As I read that it occured to me this guy probably can’t explain the particle zoo…whereas quarks do, quite nicely.

cthulhu

He’s trying to redefine atoms in *terms* of the particle zoo without dealing with the actual particle zoo that is defined and explained by quarks.