Cover image: Washington Crossing the Delaware by George Caleb Bingham, oil on canvas, 1856-71, Chrysler Museum of Art. Full image:

So…what do we think…ARE WE THERE YET?
Yeah, I don’t think we’re there yet, either, so in the meantime….

Remember what happened on the Fourth of July in Los Angeles where the local “authorities” told the people to essentially stand down, and just not celebrate, especially with fireworks?
We the People decided to flip a symbolic bird to the establishment.
And now that the powers that wanna be are flexing their…uh, well, I guess those are biceps, given the Porkulous Part Deux just passed, they seem to think we don’t see the money they are awarding themselves and leaving the peasants to starve…We the People are taking their message of “let’s cancel Christmas” and essentially telling them to shove it.
In this writer’s hometown, for the first time in memory, all live Christmas trees are sold out all over town AND HAVE BEEN FOR DAYS. We lucked out in that the lot where we buy ours was unloading a fresh shipment of trees the day we went to buy. In addition to the real pine trees now in living rooms across the Bi-State, outdoor lights are hung, tickets and reservations for Church services are sold out in many places….
It’s as if the people took XVII to heart with the last drop.
And now, many out on the fruited plain are trying to get the American spirit even more jump started.
How did your mask strike go?
We can pretty much all agree the powers that wannabe did this:

To prevent a repeat of history:

So…what do a bunch of music composers write when it was really hot outside before air conditioning existed, and they were trying to think of things that were really cold? A classic, that’s what.
And a reminder to take the pledge:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

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Today, we celebrate two of the most consequential women in Scripture:
1 SAMUEL 2:1, 4-8
1Hannah also prayed and said, “My heart exults in the LORD; my strength is exalted in the LORD. My mouth derides my enemies, because I rejoice in thy salvation. 4The bows of the mighty are broken, but the feeble gird on strength. 5Those who were full have hired themselves out for bread, but those who were hungry have ceased to hunger. The barren has borne seven, but she who has many children is forlorn. 6The LORD kills and brings to life; he brings down to Sheol and raises up. 7The LORD makes poor and makes rich; he brings low, he also exalts. 8He raises up the poor from the dust; he lifts the needy from the ash heap, to make them sit with princes and inherit a seat of honor. For the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and on them he has set the world.
LUKE 1:46-56
46And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, 48for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; 49for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. 50And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. 51He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, 52he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; 53he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. 54He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, 55as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.” 56And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her home.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Christmas Morning
‘Tis the morning of Christmas and all through the house
The whole family is stirring, even the mouse.
The stockings still hang from the mantel in pairs,
As the pine from the tree fills the room’s air.
The sun at dawn gives it’s warm, golden glow,
Glinting from crystals on the new fallen snow.
There’s noise upstairs – the kids jump from their beds,
With pattering footfalls on the stair treads.
I’ve coffee in my mug and Mom’s making her tea,
As the kids burst in and head straight for the tree.
We all gather ‘round with the presents piled near,
Our family immersed in the festive good cheer.
With lights softly glowing and the angel on top,
Activity and talking all come to a stop.
The angel above reminds us of the night
The shepherds all witnessed a glorious sight.
A multitude of heavenly host appeared
To proclaim to the shepherds “Your Savior is here!”
The subject of Christmas isn’t presents, you see,
And it’s not Santa Claus, though he’s nice as can be.
When Christmas Day comes, we celebrate the birth
Of Jesus, our Savior – when God came to earth.
We now all hold hands, and we all bow our heads
To thank God for His Son, who died in our stead.
He covered our sins so we could draw near
To the throne of our God – approach without fear.
Then He rose from the grave, to give us new life,
Freeing us from the world, its sin and its strife.
One day in the future, He’ll come again
To raise us to life and to bring us to Him,
And the splendors of earth will all fade away
In the light of His glory and grace on that day.
And so, this Christmas, as you gather near
For presents, feasting and lots of good cheer,
Remember that Jesus was born to die,
To save us from sin – our debt satisfied.
But all is not sad, He rose from the grave
In total victory. A new life He gave;
New life to live and new hope to receive
To you and to me and to all who believe.
Let’s all remember as we go on our way,
The full meaning of each Christmas Day.
To banish darkness, God gave us His Light,
And seeing, we live with favor in His sight.
– – – – – – – – – – – – –
And may I wish to all my QTree friends,
The joy of a Christmas that never ends,
That you receive God’s blessings from above,
That you all live lives immersed in His love.
Thank you. Lovely.
Beautiful, Carl – Thank you and Merry Christmas!
Amen!
Merry Christmas, bakocarl.
Beautiful, Carl…Thank you!
😊 👏
Merry Christmas!
🎄 🎅 🎄
Thank you. Timely. 🙏
Thank you, Carl — what a beautiful poem.
May you and your family enjoy a marvellous Christmas season sharing all God’s many blessings.
Wonderful as always, Carl – and thanks! 😊
And here it is . . .
““My heart exults in the LORD; my strength is exalted in the LORD. My mouth derides my enemies, because I rejoice in thy salvation.”
. . . our attitude to hold close for the entire Christmas season . . . and well beyond!
Everyone gets something different out of it. I was just struck by the parallel of Anna/Hannah’s canticle with the Magnificat. Both from women who tend to be ignored and forgotten and should never be given their roles in Scripture.
Something else in the Porkulus bill we didn’t know about.
https://twitter.com/JxhnBinder/status/1341155499530661889?s=20
The one where they can throw us in jail and take our guns for Twitter meme “copyright violations” is a new low.
That’s in the bill??? Why do I ask? Of course it is. This whole bill was a huge FU to the American people.
“Streaming copyrighted materials”. It’s in a tweet on the Porkulus thread!
What???? They really wrote this in?
I specified Twitter, but yeah, it applies. What it does is give cover to cracking down on memes. Social media and Soros AGs can “pretend not to know” that satire, parody, etc. are protected speech, and play their phony copyright games more strongly.
music as well!
Yikes. THAT could be rough.
would that affect rallies??
Kinda doubt it. Trump has withstood musicians screaming b/c of smart licensing.
LOL!
Heartbreak Hotel for Wokesters! 😀
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+campaign+music+licensing&t=brave&ia=web
What it really does is put “Woke, Inc.” in charge of us all. Corporate socialism – America’s very own unique variety of the beast.
Yes. See my reply to Linda above with the tweet.
Gobsmacked.
Anything to stop people communicating with each other.
Republican Senator Tom Tillis. There is some hype about this from the against crowd. Over all it needs more scrutiny. My understanding at this point is it does not dig down to punish normal peeps (memes, youtube types) however it may still put a damper on their activities. It’s supposed to be aimed more at the Justin Beiber’s and the advertisers of the world but could be wrong.
I really would like to know how they intend to enforce that.
I really wouldn’t.
Picking us off – one at a time – just like now. Only with more ruination, so that more of us are scared by each action against one who steps up too high.
What Jack does on Twitter is pure Chinese communist strategy – “socialism with Chinese characteristics”. The NAIL THAT STICKS UP is BEATEN DOWN.
This is a most heinous and EVIL bill. It is designed to force Trump not to sign it. To give both Democrats and RINOs the appearance of charity, while Trump is forced to be Scrooge.
These people are wicked, but CHINA is wickeder.
Don’t hit DEMOCRATS. Don’t hit RINOs. Don’t even hit Chinese.
HIT CCP.
wolfie, as I understand it, the Omnibus Bill is not a Budget, so Trump has certain powers to “manage” the fund distribution.
https://www.livetradingnews.com/the-1-3-t-omnibus-bill-is-not-a federal-budget-79288.html
So, given that Military spending is included, he may not veto.
???
I have no idea what the truth is here – I imagine even the Trump legal teams and Q team will have to strategize a way forward.
wolfie, yes, and I do trust them to not allow for such egregious dissemination of our tax dollars as this Bill seems to call for.
Kind of a dead giveaway they know the vast majority of Americans voted for Trump.
Why did republicans go along with it? Where is the leadership and who from POTUS team negotiated this monster? They are responsible. Democrats are what they are but our site should know better.
You know what they think we are dependent of them because the Marxists site is worse. Oh really?his will stop not with our moaning an d groning it will stop them with our votes.
I understand this is in place of a budget–which the dumbasses are supposed to produce yearly–so in years past, we may have always contributed x amount of money to smaller poorer nations–but we are in tough economic times–our country should be FIRST in congress’s minds–but we are not. because THEY suffered no consequences of this pandemic, they figure it’s just business and usual. send foreign countries cash, they remit half back thru shell companies (donating to campaign coffers?) and congress keeps getting richer with our money.
Now that we know the game they play concerning aid to countries I am not as charitable anymore.
Yes, it is in the bill:
I really don’t see how they can go any lower, they’re already slithering across the ground like the snakes that they are.
The whole bill seems like they sat around brainstorming on what would infuriate conservatives the most. Vindictive bullies. This “bipartisan” bill is a bad omen of what kind of retribution they’ll take if POTUS can’t beat this election fraud.
Agreed. It will be ugly.
There is no turning back anymore
Either we commit ourselves to being Americans or there will be no America
Theyre going to go full stalin and then some, dont you doubt it.
The beauty of it is that they’ve primed the pump with their psycho rabid libtards who will lap up every time they can snitch on one of the deplorables,big or small offense.
How can they miss when the tech overlords can pull up anything we’ve ever put online.
They already mass-murdered the elderly by seeding their facilities with the infected, while cutting off any contact. I’m sure they’d love to go full Holodomor on all the rest of the Deplorables.
This song comes to mind from Christian rock band, the 77’s
Snake from the album “Drowning With Land In Sight”
(Mike Roe/Mark Harmon)
I’m the path of least resistance
I’m a highway wide and clear
I’m the French bread in the desert
That you’ll eat when death is near
I’m a snake (I stand tall)
Snake (Watch me crawl)
Put me on a pedestal
Put me on a pulpit
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I can be a victim
I can be a culprit
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m a snake (I stand tall)
Snake (When I crawl)
I won’t break (When you fall)
Snake (Up against the wall)
I can be a president
I can be a pawn
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling in your TV
Crawling on your lawn
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling up your bedpost
Crawling thru your door
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling out your bookcase
And right across the floor
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m the water in the desert
That you knew was a mirage
I’m the fake gem in the pawn shop
That you hocked and then re-bought
I’m the talent that you buried
And lost interest in and on
I’m the life that you made sport of
Dropped the ball and then you run
I’m a snake (I stand tall)
Snake (Watch me crawl)
I won’t break (When you fall)
Snake (Up against the wall)
I’m crawling when you’re happy
Crawling when you’re sad
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling up your mother
And I’m crawling down your dad
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling on your lovers
And I’m crawling on your friends
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling everywhere
‘Cuz my crawling never ends
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling, crawling, crawling, crawling
Slither, slither, slither, slither
I’m crawling, crawling, crawling, crawling
Slither, slither, slither, slither
© 1994 Fools Of The World, LTD. (ASCAP)
http://www.77s.com/music/drowningwithlandinsight/snake.html
THIS SONG SURELY PORTRAYS OUR TIMES.
Yes!
Who’s the happy camper? Mike Lee, of course. He’s the senator from India.
So much for “Relief”…
May these deep state crooks rot in HE!! for their deeds for all eternity, unless they turn and repent.
I want them in HELL for at least 1/2 of eternity even if they DO Repent!
One Vote
If Biden won it fair & square
He’d want the world to be aware
That all his votes were meant for him
But, alas, his future’s dim
The Libs are fighting tooth & nail
To hide their ballots’ crooked trails
“No one can look, no one can see
This vote is good; secure as can be”
Trump wants this vote open & free
So all can look, so all can see
That for one person, there’s one vote
As our Supreme Court clearly wrote
So why do Libs just run & hide
And say to transparency “Denied!”?
They cheated, lied and stole the votes
It’s treason for these Lib turncoats
Trump’s team works above & beyond
To ensure the Libs won’t abscond
With all their ill botten gooty
It’s not just right . . . it’s their duty
All the Libs act high & mighty
But PTrump says “Then, alrighty”
“You thought you were too big to fail
So now enjoy your life in jail”
“In the end, liberty & justice
Rule the day; people will trust us
We’ll restore our country’s honor
But for the Libs, they’re all goners”
Sadly accurate.
suggests minor tweak…
*As our forefathers clearly wrote.
Initially, I wrote those exact words, but our forefathers didn’t allow women to vote, or slaves. “One vote one person” didn’t come about until much later and is usually associated with the equal representation in voting rulings by the Supreme Court.
It occurred to me that, initially, only landowners could vote. I’f love to find appropriate words other than “Supreme Court” but . . .
ahh good point. Hard to say what are the right words then as the nuance will likely go over some peoples heads like mine for example. 🙃
One of your best ever – BakoCarl – our poet laureate!!!
Crossroads Lin Wood Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR2kcv9wQb9G9YMQhyFNJmyTSj0mv7SX7Ow1v9IYAV1sp9szFKnImMQ6AAE&v=OHtdA3Wj6vc&feature=youtu.be
This is a MUST WATCH !!
Thank you Elizabeth !
I’m shocked, but I actually agree with Sundance in this article:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/21/sean-spicer-interviews-rudy-giuliani-on-latest-developments-and-legal-election-processes-two-groups-have-distinct-approaches/#more-206342
Patrick Byrne has stirred up a lot of controversy that really isn’t helpful. I’ve been a little suspicious of him from the start. He admitted that he didn’t even vote for Trump. So why is he suddenly in the middle of everything?
“GET OUT OF JAIL FREE”
He essentially confessed publicly to being an accessory to treason. I think he cut a deal.
The “get Hillary” bribe-to-catch-to-own plan sounds very “FIB” – I can believe it. CIA and Hillary were close enough that CIA backed her in the election openly (e.g., Morell) – but not enough control. Obama/Mooch story makes gobs of sense. That would have been through Lynch and racial prostration minion Comey. All adds up.
Den of vipers.
Quick note, I’m up. Tea made, and still not getting bell notifications. I can see them on my phone, though. So, I can be on bin duty if you like.
I just got this now. I had most of my tools temporarily gone, while I managed the latest torpedo hit.
BUT WOLFIE’S BAAAAAACK!!! 🐺 🐺 🐺
He’s the only one in the elevator who didn’t respond to the gas pass.
Great article, but LORDY, is that Peoria Jones an apple polisher! LOL! I want to scream “Sundance can wipe himself, thank you.”
i’ve thought that myself more than once
Wishing PJ the gift of “less is more”! 😀
I was not aware that this was a mask strike day, but I saw an attractive lady – BECAUSE I COULD SEE HER FACE – going into a fast food restaurant, and thought that was new.
Yep, mask strike day should turn into unmasked hours at local grocery stores. Just need to get the word out to twenty or thirty or forty like minded individuals, all link up and then rush on in!
That is a fantastic idea!
We should do “unmasked raids” on businesses! We need to plan large groups of people to go at the same time, en masse, to get essentials.
We just overwhelm them with numbers all at once.
^ ^ ^ THIS is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen, and NOW. Everyone is clamoring for something local and organized, that can be done en masse. And will snowball. Leading up to 1/6. They can’t arrest everyone.
meme enthusiasts beware!
https://twitter.com/3days3nights/status/1341262781836910592
Looks like every meme now has to have a “Free use” clause at the bottom?
(if you want it to go viral anyway)
Yep Americans & patriots will find away around the BS every time!
I have a better idea…
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I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
THIS IS A FREE USE MEME
Needs to be part of the lexicon.
I posted this idea earlier:
Looks like every meme now has to have a “Free use” clause at the bottom?
(if you want it to go viral anyway)
https://www.theqtree.com/2020/12/22/dear-kag-20201222-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-634012
Just posted on Twitter.
Excellent.
The garage pull noose was much neater in appearance with the coils all matching.
At least both loops are perfectly symmetrical.
Pointed! The traitors’ just end!!!
wikileaks info
https://twitter.com/RobertM01452748/status/1341265722840891392
This COVID bill contains more pork than a Chinese dinner at Eric Swalwell’s.
Why would DJT ever sign such a bill into law?
Isn’t all the angst much ado about nothing?
Sometime between now and January 20th the whole world is going to change, and even if there are enough votes to override a Presidential veto now, there won’t be after at least half of Congress is arrested for Treason and other High (and low) crimes.
I sure hope this is Way more than wishful thinking!
It would be an act of Treason to turn the government over to a Chinese Communist Party puppet regime.
DJT is not a traitor.
Reconcile.
😁
Agreed. I’m all-in on decommunization.
That’s Always the point I come beck to also!
POTUS has been encouraging congress to get relief to Americans since the governors are shutting down their businesses. he feels the pain of those whose livelihoods were lost…he wants to help them.
dems are hoping to force him into accepting their crap IF he wants to help us.
but I say take the Chucky Schumer way out. he claims old joe is gonna forgive $50K in student debt for everyone that owes it–all by EO. so why can’t POTUS–by EO–give everyone $2,000 or more???
Actually, he can.
This is an omnibus bill, so maybe that’s the plan?
Doesn’t omnibus mean that the President gets to allocate the funds as he wants?
Omnibus doesn’t mean that, it just means they piled all the crap into one big pile instead of a bunch of smaller bills.
Ok, thanks.
https://www.livetradingnews.com/the-1-3-t-omnibus-bill-is-not-a-federal-budget-79288.html
>> “forgive $50K in student debt” <<
I think that he IRS considers any debt forgiveness to be TAXABLE INCOME in the year the debt is “forgiven”.
Kinda similar to CJ Roberts “judging” that a penalty for NOT joining ACA is a “tax”.
Pretzel logic …
HAHAHAHAHAHA…wouldn’t that be the kick in the ass those delinquents need?
but dems would probably just reform tax law to make a “one time exception”…
He needs funding, money comes from Congress. UNLESS he can legally find the money from another source like the Treasury General Fund. That’s how he was able to give UE a $300/wk boost when the benefits ran out. There was only so much money, so it didn’t last very long, 4-8wks maybe? Many States didn’t have the money either, so they never kicked in the extra $100/wk.
maybe we can ask the DICTATORSHIP in Sudan…rumor is they got $700,000,000 of OUR money!
Because a two thirds majority can pass it over a Presidential veto.
ALSO it is CALLED the Covid Relief Bill. That means the Sheeple NEED TO KNOW what is in it to understand WHY POTUS is vetoing their $600 relief check.
After Jan 3 I don’t think they will be able to overcome the President’s Veto. New Congress will be taking their seats I’m to understand on the 3rd. Pocket veto (hold for 10 days) will be great for exposing the pork and socialists aspects of the bill. That should take us to Jan 1st or 2nd. Congress must vote again. Surely some on our side might think we can hold out long enough to get a better deal and not allow the over ride.
“Because a two thirds majority can pass it over a Presidential veto.”
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I would dearly love to see them try!
Let them do it, and even succeed!
Expose EVERY LAST ONE of these *&^%$#ing TRAITORS.
Let every GOP pig-RINO vote to override DJT, along with the dims, in BOTH house of criminalgress.
Then disburse NOTHING.
Between now and January 20th, DJT is going to drop the big one, declassify and expose everything, and arrest EVERYBODY.
The ‘Covid-19 relief’ treason package will then be declared null and void, a criminal act of Treason by the defendants (most of Congress) who should be in GITMO by the evening of January 20th.
Chinese dinner at Eric’s place is not porky. As a matter of fact, she is downright svelte.
What a giant of a man! NC is blessed to have his representation!!!
He’s making me proud to be from NC….although I haven’t moved there, yet.
Glad for you. We suffer under the delusional “representation” of Debbie Dingell now 🙁
Heavenly–wish we could have seen it live
The few senators that Might have POTUS’ back…& America’s!
https://twitter.com/thebias_news/status/1341248536038363143
Marsha has turned out to be a real heroine, IMO.
I wish she were my Senator.
You can move to Tennessee or North Carolina. But not both so make up your mind which one it’s gonna be, Silly Valley boy.
After all this lunacy settles he may find himself in North Tennelina.
Looks like the start of a list of who is running in 2024.
Yes! Though I’d love to see DeSantis, Noem, & Pompeo on that list too 🙂
Just the start of the list 😉 We’ll have to make sure Noem gets a spot.
Yes! A Gorgeous, Godly, Conservative Woman to piss off all the leftie harpies!!! Bonus
Wow Deplorable awesome post
Goes with the new yard I’m going to be looking for and putting up in my yard or on my door!!!
Too old to give a shit!
I’d join in, but the snowflakes in this neighborhood would melt down. They’re not all bad…just deluded.
I would add: “Bored, looking for a little entertainment”.
tv.gab.com is now live.

I will explore and report back soon.
Cover image: Washington Crossing the Delaware by George Caleb Bingham, oil on canvas, 1856-71
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So he crossed the Delaware in a what amounts to a large row boat (yes I know, a ‘Durham’ boat…), seated on a horse, which presumably stood very, very, very still?
The horse was prepared by playing The Ramones’ “I wanna be sedated” for four hours in its stall and giving it sugar lumps that had previously been soaked in a mysterious fluid (Being that syringes capable of subcutaneous injection were only invented in 1844.).
OK, I was originally going to go with the joke that the 3 chords used by the Ramones predate the 1700’s, with backup that the song would be played on acoustic instruments in relays because electric guitars were some decades in the future…..but nobody bit.
Instead, I’ll go with: “the elder brother Washington, Fred, before his boat capsized and George became the leading General of the Revolution.”
The horse was probably so exhausted and so malnourished it was very happy for the chance to stand still. 🤣
It is one reason a lot of the old pony rides had ribby ponies. A pony that was malnourished did not have the energy to be fiesty. That is ALSO why they want to make Americans vegans. No Meat (or supplements) = No FIGHT!
“…all we ever get is grue-el…”
Yeah, I like that other painting you normally see better, though I understand even it has issues.
I thought the change might be nice. The figures are more authentic as is the ice floe situation.
That’s actually a flatboat. Before paddlewheelers that’s what was used on the more shallow rivers and those with ever changing bottoms.
…and according to some very reliable ‘anonymous’ sources of course, they all sang;
“Michael row the boat ashore, hallelujah”
I wish you hadn’t said Michael; these days it calls up an image of a certain alleged tranny.
Pictures from last night. One has a slightly better Jupiter, the other a slightly better Saturn.


You can see a hint of a band across jupiter, running upper left to lower right, a bit above center. From having watched it in a telescope as well last night (clearer in the scope, of course, because it’s designed to do this and the camera really isn’t), I can assure you there was indeed a prominent band there.
Very nice. Even with my bouncy binox, I could see that Saturn had a bit of an oval to it when I observed it at 5:30 and 5:40…..and at 5:50 it was obscured by a wisp of cloud and just a bright spot.
Now we turn around the solstice, with the sun ascendant — every day a little longer, though it still be cold. First we have more light each day, and then the heat.
If I recall correctly, the analemma perversely either is going to continue making sunsets earlier for a bit (though sunrises are getting earlier faster, so the day is lengthening), or it’s the other way around; sunsets are already happening later and have been for a few days. I just can’t remember which one it is.
In other words if you were to judge solely by sunset time rather than by length of day, you’d mistakenly place the solstice on the wrong day.
Well, we do live in the era of the internet.
For my location, the official times are (listed DATE, SUNRISE, SUNSET — am/pm omitted)
18 7:16 4:52.
19 7:17 4:52.
20 7:17 4:53.
21 7:18 4:53.
22 7:18 4:54.
23 7:19 4:54.
24 7:19 4:55.
So sunrise is getting later and sunset is getting later as well….and by almost the same amount.
Yeah, I could have researched a bit but I know the last time I looked it seemed like I really had to dig for the info, but anyhow, the sun set earlier on the 18th than it did on the 21st. That’s the effect of the sun moving practically horizontally along the bottom bend of the analemma.
I should note that the daily rate of change in the length of a day is greatest at the equinoxes and least at the solstices. Something about the first derivative of a sine wave, IIRC.
So right now, we can know the turnaround scientifically, but not know it observationallly. Later, we’ll know it observationally, but won’t really feel it. Then we’ll feel the day length change, but it won’t reawaken Nature. And then it will be Spring.
Pretty much got it knocked.
In Colorado of course we don’t have those seasons, we have almost winter, winter, still winter, and construction.
Where I live it has been known to snow every month other than July and August. Go up in elevation and even that changes for the worse.
Out here in California, we have a slightly different timetable. Our seasons are drought, earthquakes, fires, and mudslides.
Drought, so no plant-roots knit the hillsides together; earthquakes, because it’s an excuse for not clearing brush; fires, because the whole place is a tinderbox if not maintained properly; and mudslides because two drops of water on a burned-off hillside will rapidly decrease the altitude of any topsoil.
OTOH, the Fiancee and I have taken hikes on Christmas Day when I was in shorts and a light sweatshirt.
last Xmas we had a large party the night after and everyone ended up sitting outside …this year it’s forecasted to be in the 20’s.
Ha ha..We can relate. Stayed several days in Steamboat Springs one August to play golf before continuing to Carmel for a wedding. Woke up to snow, several inches, one morning. Of course, came unprepared but strangely enough we could buy wool caps and gloves in the pro shop…big clue right there.
Continued on to Carmel….shrouded in fog and very cool, of course.
We had to remind ourselves it was indeed August!
You would bring trigonometry into it.
(1) The trig is just there, whether you recognize it or not; (2) you object to the trig, but not to the calculus?; (3) it’s somehow worse when I’m involved?!?
And, of course, my perpetual observation that trig is dirt easy if you teach it from the perspective of analytical geometry…..which hadn’t been invented when they were originally doing all the trig stuff…..which is why trig got a reputation for being difficult — it’d be like teaching driving without first having the concept of left and right.
I agree trig is easy. Easiest math class I ever took.
I hated math (and school in general). I excelled at underachieving.
Memorizing a bunch of identities. There were twenty-odd identities if I recall.
I don’t do as well with memorizing, until I find a pattern I could use. I could eventually memorize one identity, then remember to change the sign and flip some other thing around as well to get a similar identity.
If you can sort of remember the identity but aren’t quite sure exactly what it is there’s a trick involving Euler’s Identity that will let you get to a lot of them on the fly, but that was most definitely NOT taught in trig class.
And oh by the way, there is no such thing as non-bouncy binocs…unless they’re affixed to a tripod.
Someone I was with when observing with my scope tonight tried for quite some time to simply take a photo through the eyepiece with their cell phone camera.
Basically no matter how still they tried to hold the phone, Jupiter and Saturn would simply flip in and out of the camera field of view in less than a second.
I got ONE photograph that way, and it turns out I got a better Saturn than they did. Pure blind luck.
“bouncey binox”… sounds like a stripper.
Where’s Hunter?
What is the black band, Steve? Now that you pointed it out we both can see it.
we both experienced Jupiter, especially, “dancing” like crazy when we used the binoculars but not with our eyes. At first I thought it was just unsteadiness of our arms and hands, but even after we anchored on the car it still danced.
The dancing was because handheld, even on a car, isn’t as steady as a tripod.
If you’re talking about the faint stripe across Jupiter, Jupiter has dark and light belts across it, and that particular belt just happens to be darker than the others for some reason.
I couldnt get my son to use the binoculars, even holdingbit steady, but he could see them fairly well. He thought it was neat. The binoculars helped me best though.
My scope was fantastic yesterday, the clouds went away by 2PM. There was a bit of haze in the air but not too much, and I was able to put extenders on my camera; those shots are at 700+ mm.
I love the clarity you got.
REX @REX@social.quodverum.com
So Mark Meadows is on Team Trump.
As are Senators & Reps.
I never doubted it.
What we are seeing right now should be of no surprise to most of you.
A blizzard of misinformation, leaks of FakeNews & shiny balls designed to deceive and confuse the enemies of the Republic.
It’s working like a charm.
Something is afoot.
And not good for China Joe, either.

Don’t fight back against the mounting evidence.
Fight back against the damn voter fraud.
I’m not sure whether he just made a grammatical error here or let something slip.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1341156900625285120
*Jumping up and down in frustration*
I’m all in favor of what they’re doing, but something is wrong when we have a massive amount of fraud, with mountains of evidence, and we think we’re actually going to be able to contest it❓ And we-the-people have to sit here and watch this, knowing our country is being stolen❓
The depth of corruption is overwhelming. The fact that no court has actually looked at the evidence, a month and a half after the election, is appalling. And we have to rely on Congress and electors? What if even one of the crucial states doesn’t come through?
I don’t want Pres. Trump to eke out a win with a tiny majority of electors, when he won in maybe the biggest landslide ever. I want the votes counted, and I want the world to see that we didn’t sign up for this corruption and globalism. Then I want every last one of the cheaters, corrupt Congress critters, and judges prosecuted and punished. That’s what draining the swamp looks like. We need shock and awe, sturm and drang, and justice enacted with a swift sword. They need to see that we are in charge. Nothing less than complete revelation and utter defeat will do.
I’ll be happier when “afoot” becomes “at hand”.
Dr. Enoch organsing caravans for the 6 Jan 2021 POTUS meet in Washington
https://twitter.com/elenochle/status/1341223156577497089
https://twitter.com/elenochle/status/1341235453211492353
https://twitter.com/elenochle/status/1341205550680268803
https://twitter.com/i/status/1341231817714708481
More vehicles? Hopes that bulldozers and wrecking balls are included.
uh oh…not this again…
NEWSMAX Caves To Dominion And Smartalec…oops…Smartmatic Legal Threats
link…
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/newsmax-caves-to-dominion-and-smartmatic-legal-threats/
12-21
Steve Bannon, plse hang in there..
ditto : OANN
So, yesterday, our Congressional overlords posted a 5,000+ page $3 TRILLION dollar spending bill online for the public to examine mere hours before BOTH chambers voted upon and passed it.
Reread that.
Congress voted on a 5,600 page bill it had less than 6 hours to read, and they passed it by overwhelming majority in both chambers of Congress.
Reread that.
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It is challenging to think of ALL the ways this bill…and the MANUFACTURED CRISIS which created the majority of it’s stated need(s)….is the most vulgar, insulting, infuriating FUCK YOU to every single American. It is both an OUTRAGE and it is outrageous.
And PDJT has indicated that he will sign this bill, because if he doesn’t, millions of Americans and businesses stand to go bankrupt.
Of course, all of this is by design, intent, timing, and planning.
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REMINDER:
Even as the Nazis (and subsequently the communists) subjected entire nations, they looted them at the same time.
To put all the egregious crap in one place, I posted this last evening.
https://www.theqtree.com/2020/12/21/porkulous-redux-reading-the-covid-relief-package-to-find-out-whats-in-it/
Forgot to link it up in the body of this thread post as I put it together hours earlier and seem to be functioning as household manager for a bunch of adults.
Can’t wait to get people in positions of power who wiill take action.
Deplorable Patriot – I still can’t LIKE posts on the new site – but today like wouldn’t be enough – I L♥️VE THIS ONE!!! You have out-done yourself!
The Star Spangled Banner with the Los Angeles fireworks is magnificent!
Thanks so much! Hope you and all your family have a Merry Christmas!
We will have a Merry Christmas if we don’t kill each other first. Thank you. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Oh….families and holidays….. brings out the best and worst…. 🙂
Just putting everyone under the same roof brings out the worst. Most of the “adults” in the family are not willing to grow up to deal with a number if things.
Yup. The family I homeschool with has 11/12 people in one house. Theyre leaving CA as soon as the school year is done and all are goingbinto separate homes. Communal living didn’t work.
I’m looking forward to the Qtree Christmas Party on the Eve!!!
i will help bringing food…who’s in charge of music??
What dish should I bring?
whatever you feel like contributing…we’re a diverse bunch–everything is welcome!!
Thinking….😁
if you’re strapped for time…everyone enjoys alcohol of some sort…LOL
LOL. Now I’m really thinking….
I have a nice pint jar of some homemade blackberry brandy that was given to me by a buddy at work. I will be bringing that!
That sounds wonderful! Hope I can have a sip. 😀
Ive got local made cider, 8%. Apple pie flavor and cherry. Super good stuff.
Cherry! Can’t wait!
LOL
And aspirin, eventually.
We’re a UNIFIED bunch!
If anyone’s bringing wine, I prefer that it be:
A really great short clip of Yuri Bezmenov on spiritual warfare.
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=AG7T_U9kGx4
This is wonderful. Thank you.
You’re welcome! 😀
Yuri talks about a lot of negatives without flinching, but he also offers this fix without reservation!
Article announcing Gab TV!
https://news.gab.com/2020/12/21/introducing-gabtv-the-new-media-is-you-media/

Gab TV: WHY.
(Using their embed code.)
Interesting that Gab’s embeds never worked on JetPack commenting.
John F’ing Kerry!!!
Very strange: yesterday I watched on Youtube several of the original Addams Family episodes- don’t know why.
I wish I could get it to play for me.
😕