Dear KAG: 20210427 Open Thread

Cover image: Through the Dogwood by Christine David. CORRECTION: CHRISTIANE David.

I don’t know about anyone else, but right now in the midst of spring and flowering trees being in full bloom, the quiet does seem to feel like the calm before some sort of storm. What that is or will be is another question, but one thing is for sure: waiting is the hardest part.

Patience really is not a great American virtue.

We want it over with already, and, frankly, we have no idea what’s gong on beneath the surface other than the Democrats are pulling crap in Arizona to spike the audit of the November 2020 election, and some of the states with larger electoral college totals are losing votes thanks to the people migrating elsewhere.

Such is life in America. The people are free to go where they think they will have the best advantages.

And yet, here we are.

At this point, where else are we going to go just for some hope – yes, hope – that this massive mess foisted on us by the powers that wannabe will eventually be untangled.

Just a reminder:

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

And now for something completely different.

Your weekly reminder to take the pledge:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

And now for the nitty gritty of the Q Tree 5 minute, stand up, Tuesday morning meeting version of the Daily Thread.

Ahem.

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JOHN 10:22-30

22It was the feast of the Dedication at Jerusalem; 23it was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple, in the portico of Solomon. 24So the Jews gathered round him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness to me; 26but you do not believe, because you do not belong to my sheep. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me; 28and I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

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cthulhu

Is the painting by Christine David or Christiane David?

I tried doing an internet search for it.

TheseTruths

You prompted me to search. It’s gotta be Christiane. The painting is gorgeous. Her use of color is too.

cthulhu

I wanted to learn more about it and about the artist — where and when; where it is now; taught, apprenticed, or “schooled”?

I liked the exuberance of the painting.

Elizabeth Carter

Ethulhu She is in Lancaster PA
Christiane David – Portfolio of Works
Her work is outstanding.
Liz

cthulhu

Heh. Turns out, I’m not a great fan of her paintings of animals, birds, or people. Nor am I impressed by intimate studies of few flowers. But many of her works with a flower garden near buildings or wildflowers near water are gorgeous.

Barb Meier

I liked most of her work for the bright bold colors. Though I love the one Deplorable Patriot picked for us the best.

cthulhu

Belgian born and raised, formal study, moved to the US as an adult in 1985.

https://www.christianedavid.com/about

MAGA Mom

Thank you – this painting is beautiful

Deplorable Patriot

Okay…typo. I’m human.

cthulhu

I wasn’t criticizing. How did you encounter this work?

Deplorable Patriot

Internet search “American Art Dogwood.”

cthulhu

Did you go through pinterest?

Deplorable Patriot

No. Bing.

Barb Meier

I use Bing primarily too even though I know MSoft has a left lean.

cthulhu

I thought that you had brought us something beautiful and wanted to know more about it. I’d also like to know more about how you found it, because you’re obviously looking in nicer places than the ones where I hang out.

nikkichico7

The dadgum “I” snuck away when you weren’t looking .. 🤨❤️ … gotta watch those lying I’s … 🙄👀👁

You are simply wonderful .. harrumph .. 🙂

cthulhu

A couple of updates on the UMN Linux “hypocrite commits” —

https://www.zdnet.com/article/university-of-minnesota-security-researchers-apologize-for-deliberately-buggy-linux-patches/

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-linux-foundations-demands-to-the-university-of-minnesota-for-its-bad-linux-patches/

Again, no real security issues….but a lot of kernel developers are doing nights and weekends because of the stupid UMN program — and not creating or evaluating useful code instead. UMN really kicked a hornet’s nest on this one.

Wait until a bunch of the biggies (Google, Apple, Oracle, etc.) start saying, “if you were thinking of submitting a resume with UMN on it, send it somewhere else.”

michaelh

We can hope that’s what they’ll say!

What these “researchers” discovered was something called “emergent phenomena” – sometimes it wake up and bites your backside.

As an important aside, in a proprietary/closed-source project, “hypocrite commits” are not performed by threat actors operating ostensibly from the community, but from another category of persons known as “insider threats”.

Consider the number of people employed at FAANG companies, then consider how many of them have divided loyalties, and then consider how so-called “hypocrite commits” could even be manipulated by the organization itself…

Not a pretty picture.

cthulhu

*cough* CCP *cough*….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

MMMMMMM HMMMMMM.

cthulhu

Oh, by the way — did anyone catch the authors of the paper in question? https://itwire.com/open-source/torvalds-says-submitting-known-buggy-patches-is-a-breach-of-trust.html

Bridget Jones and Harvey Smith.

— Just kidding, they were Qiushi Wu and Kangjie Lu.

Expel, deport, no-fly list. Or imprison for a spy exchange.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL. Yeah.

The entire operation is likely a PROBE PLUS MISDIRECTIONS of some kind, although the misdirections are always the hardest to find. IMO they may be pushing the idea of FOSS vulnerability to distract from upcoming bad press for PHLOSS insiders. Or they are trying to distract from heaving CCP presence inside FAANG, including policy and censorship rule-setting. Some of the stuff coming out of Facebook is horrendous.

But this is very much like the Zhang mask paper, or many other weirdnesses done by the CCP. They push almost any way they can and score in two ways – the fast political payoff, plus judge the reaction to prepare the next long-range attack.

cthulhu

The thing is, Linux has had no end of bad ideas suggested for incorporation into the kernel. The kernel development community exists to take weird and impractical suggestions and advance the ones that actually bring improvements while slowing or rejecting those that don’t. When you look at some of the wild stuff that is now considered old hat — stuff like ASLR [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization ] or lists of encrypted hashes — a lot of it was initiated or promoted through Linux.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Some of the bad ideas are probably very long-range in their strategy, and thus I think the idea of slowing them down to help them reveal their dangers is a very good counter-strategy.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly.

Key point: EVEN BY THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF….

…..in which case it may be knowing, but likely “pretending not to know”

Yeah, I don’t really see there being a lot of difference, except that with FOSS, an actively suspicious CROWD has visibility into the code, for whatever that is worth, which IMO is a LOT, but not COMPLETE.

IMO, FAANG and other PHLOSS (proprietary hypocrites leveraging OSS) have their own issues with insiders, but there is even more danger in them playing much longer games with misdirection of architecture.

cthulhu

A LOT, but not COMPLETE — fully agreed. And the wider the community, the better. The Linux kernel has subject-matter experts that are best-in-the-world on-call for various portions….but no creation of man can truly aspire to perfection.

cthulhu

Linus even weighed in: “I don’t think it has been a huge deal _technically_, but people are pissed off, and it’s obviously a breach of trust.

It should be noted that the Linux Kernel mailing list archives were loaded into a database some years ago and analyzed for usage of swear words. Somewhat unsurprisingly, some of the top results for words included “crap” and “s**t”, and one of the top results for users was Linus. He has since tried to do better, and the use of “pissed off” is unusual for “mild Linus”. Of course, in the old days (pre-analysis), it would have probably been “rightfully f***ing furious”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! MOAR SWEARING NEEDED!

Deplorable Patriot

One more reason the other side wants to make beef scarce.

cthulhu

Yup. When we bought this property 20+ years ago, all it had was slick adobe clay. We’ve amended this stuff over and over and over and over — some of which was, in fact, steer manure.

michaelh

And also required for grasslands to prevent desertification.

No beef = make Dust Bowl look like a warm up project.

Midwest used to have millions of buffalo, made the land rich and productive.

Elizabeth Carter

DP,
Cows eat cellulose and provide milk and meat for our consumption.
I have read that 1 cow can feed 1 human for 1 year.
They breed and replace themselves.
Raising cows is sustainable and good for the the earth.
They provide an environment for other plants and animals to thrive.
They are good company also.
God does good work. Nothing is ever wasted.
Liz

cthulhu

One of the semi-mystical things about the Lotus in India is the roots are dug, each year while dormant, and essentially replanted in cow manure. They are wildly hungry plants (which is tough to pull off in an aquatic environment).

Grandmaintexas

Pigs can do the same thing. Our front paddock has the best grass in years because the pigs rooted up and ate the weeds and left their poop everywhere.

It’s like an emerald sea in that paddock.

cthulhu

For me, it was running aquaria that really did it.

If you take a glass box, put absolutely sterile sand in it, put in some rocks and water and add fish — you will likely lose all the fish in about two months. When you feed the fish, the fish turn it into fish waste and all uneaten food rots. If you skip feeding, your fish starve, and if you feed lightly, the fish are slowly poisoned.

If you already have an aquarium, fill the new one with about 1/3 sand from the old one, move the old filter to the new tank, and put the new filter on the old tank. Nothing even hiccups.

There are beneficial bacteria that grow in tanks that feed on fish waste and partially detoxify it, then more beneficial bacteria that feed on partially-detoxified waste and mostly detoxify it to the point where small water changes every month are adequate to maintain a livable environment.

Without the fish, all the beneficial bacteria will die.

Life supports life. The more life exists, the more opportunities for life are available. It’s much like capitalism — the more consumers and producers, the better for everyone.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They are CUNNING – they are freakin’ CUNNING – and dipsheets like AOC are never going to be able to see this kind of anti-human agenda.

Barb Meier

Someone should ask her “When did you first notice you have become anti-human?” Do you think her head would explode?

gil00

Go Washington.
Patriot incoming!

Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) Tweeted:
Whoa

Watch this

All of it

https://t.co/7wiJcHmzuJ

gil00

Joseph J Flynn (@JosephJFlynn1) Tweeted:
Vote for the Joe Kents of this country every State every County every precinct…. #throwthebumsout! https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1386880270046048256?s=20

cthulhu

I can’t see tweets. Any hints?

gil00

Look up joe kent Washington state congressional candidate.

cthulhu

Got the gist. Didn’t give Twitter anything….

gil00

Of you can see his video, lays out an interesting military background, pro America first, calls the fake POTUS out and all.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Check this out:

rayzorback

I used to live in Washington’s 3rd Congressional district.
Good people live there 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Here is another. Still looking for the video in the tweet.

wheatietoo

I posted it a couple of days ago, it’s a good one:

It’s on his website:

https://www.joekentforcongress.com/

You helped me out by posting that interview with Shane Trejo of Big League Politics…which was another good video.
 😀 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff! Thanks!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One more great interview. This guy (former intelligence and military) has an AMAZING handle on Antifa and BLM. He is not fooled by them AT ALL.

CMinTN

He was also at the rally this past weekend in FL…It was on RSBN, but think YT pulled it…can’t find it now.

Elizabeth Carter

Reiner Fuellmich: “We’re About To Reach The Tipping Point” – Must WatchDr. Reiner Fuellmich is a consumer protection trial lawyer in Germany and California. He is one of four members of the German Corona Investigative Committee who are now working with an international network of lawyers who will argue this biggest tort case ever, the Corona Fraud Scandal, which has meanwhile unfolded into probably the greatest crime against humanity ever. Contact the Corona Investigative Committee. Wikipedia
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2021/04/reiner-fuellmich-were-about-to-reach-the-tipping-point-must-watch-2520552.html

cthulhu

Update on whole-house fan: replacement motor arrived, had to tear apart more of the old installation.

They’d used a Heyco 7K-2 stress relief on the old motor’s wiring as it passed into their wiring box. I readily found information about it online, but also found that they have no local distributors — everything is from their warehouse. It’s a nylon part where you drop the wiring in, then fold over a piece to lock it in….and there didn’t seem to be any provision whatsoever to unlock it. I ended up having to use tinsnips to cut through the box, then some force to bend one part up and the other back, until I could unscrew the thing from the box. Since that leaves more sharp edges in the vicinity of the wiring, I’ll have to MacGyver something to protect the wires from vibrating on an edge. I have a feeling it will involve duct tape.

I then hooked-up everything on my kitchen counter, using a stripped 3-wire power cord in lieu of house wiring, plugged it in and everything worked as intended. I now need to rebuild it inside the box (with wire protection where it enters). After that, I’ll need to clean up the fan blades and stash them upstairs within reach. Installing the fan from underneath should be straightforward without the fan. Then I rewire the house wiring to the interior of the box, reattach the box to its strut, reattach the fan to the motor, and either reach up through the fan and hit the kill switch to energize the fan, or dash up into the attic to do so. Then test.

I may be slow, but I give initial credence to all its excuses for why it can’t be done until I figure out how to get around them.

michaelh

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Sadie Slays

I’ve got a more realistic version.
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(I’ve had this meme saved on my hard drive since November 2020. Branco’s cartoon is dated 2021. I like Branco, and I really hope there’s a good explanation for this that doesn’t involve plagiarism.)

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is an old meme – I saw it used years and years ago in newspaper political cartoons.

Sadie Slays

Thanks!

Grandmaintexas

You’re right, DePat. Patience is not our best virtue. But we are holding on.

Thanks for another great post. The featured image is gorgeous.

WWG1WGA

JOE BIDEN DIDN’T WIN.

scott467

I thought we’ve been ridiculously patient, for going on 4-1/2 years now!

People have been telling us SOON! for nearly half a decade

Valerie Curren

Aslan, “I call all times soon!” in one of the Chronicles of Narnia

Grandmaintexas

🥰

Valerie Curren

<3

jamcooker

We need the patience of the oriental to some extent. There ARE weird things going on, not just here, but world wide.

scott467

Not sure what to make of this… pretty sure planes aren’t allowed to fly in the restricted airspace over the real White House…

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Plane Flies Over White House? Doesn’t add up…..
DailyTruthReport
Published April 25, 2021

Why In The World Was An Airplane Flying Over The White House?

There are many strange occurrences happening in Washington D.C. as of late, but this has to be one of the oddest. Now, many already know that the White House airspace is a no-fly zone meaning that no aircraft can simply be in that area for security purposes. Of course, that makes sense to keep potential threats out of the area and keep the leader of the nation safe.

So, why was there a place spotted over the White House?

In a recent press conference at the supposed White House, a plane was spotted flying over the White House.

When the question was asked to White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki, you can actually see her wheels spinning trying to figure out how to answer this knowing that is not supposed to be happening.

She knows that planes do not fly over the WHITE HOUSE!

Do you know where they do fly over?

Tyler Perry Studios.

Castlerock Studios.

I’m just sayin’……

We just report what we find and then you decide!

Take a look for yourself:

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back up on Rumble:

https://rumble.com/vg2xy5-plane-flies-over-white-house-doesnt-add-up……html?mref=2oodx&mc=8wf7a

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Here is the Rumble video:

Grandmaintexas

Military?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, there is a lot of strange stuff going on.

michaelh

LOL she is so disorganized.

Obviously this raises a lot of questions. At the same time this scene is so ridiculous (capable of being ridiculed) that it deserves a laughing and mocking at.

This woman is not in control or driving this. An interruption and she says “there’s a plane, right overhead!” She should be prepared and have a plan for being on top of interruptions and distractions, instead she acts helpless and lacks the command of her situation. A smarter vocabulary too. “Wait for the aircraft to pass” would show an intelligent command of the situation. I know that amateur hour is the norm right now, but what kind of press secretary for a position like this doesn’t have a rehearsed, gamed out response plan for the unexpected? You know full well that Kayleigh had table-topped every contingency from mechanical noise, to electrical fire, to popped lights, to power failure, in addition to hours of hand-to-hand verbal jujitsu training for when (not if) Acosta tried something. She also was in command of unruly reporters and didn’t rely (couldn’t rely) on their good graces to cut her slack and carry the water for her.

I know, that would require a characteristic that she lacks and is weak in… something called “leadership”.

At least she didn’t call it a “UFO”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That would be PressSec Wolf Moon:

“Now THAT UFO needs a tune-up.”

jamcooker

Just one more of the weird things happening.

TheseTruths

That raises a lot of questions. I don’t see Psaki being asked about the plane (as the report states); I just see her proclaiming that the noise is a plane. I also only see a plane being heard, not spotted, over the WH. Maybe that particular video doesn’t show everything that took place regarding the incident.

So…Was it really a plane?
Did she just assume it was a plane? (Does she not know about the no-fly zone? How could that be possible?)
Knowing that planes can’t fly over the WH, did she use that excuse to cover up something she knew to be nefarious?
Doesn’t she know that much of the public knows about the no-fly zone?
It is generally reported when planes or drones breach the NFZ over the WH, yet this hasn’t been reported?
If that wasn’t a plane, what was it?
If it was a plane, I think we are entitled to know what was going on.

scott467

“If it was a plane, I think we are entitled to know what was going on.”

_____________

You must be thinking of some other government, on some other world, in some alternate universe… 😂🤣😂

Cuppa Covfefe

Quick, where’s Tattoo???

De Plane, De Plane… 🙂

(I’ll take the Rich Corinthian Leather…)….

But not this one, sort of a Bye, Done-esque version:

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/1049e24f2a8ce66dc9632eb5190cd94d/204117270/0+-+1977+Chrysler+Cordoba+in+California+Junkyard+-+Photo+by+Murilee+Martin.jpg

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RAC

Apologies for my memory that is getting really foggy, but do you recall when some irritating idiot kept putting flags up and publishing pictures of them and the anons found it by incredible detective work…..where are they now.

cthulhu

That was Shia LaBeouf — went through several iterations. My favorite was when they used overhead airplane contrails to triangulate it.

cthulhu

And to think, at one point producers thought they could reboot the Indiana Jones franchise around that assclown….

RAC

That’s it yes ! Well if the time and date was known and that flight checking map thing has the ability to look at previous days.

cthulhu

The video feed was intentionally made for security — there were no landmarks, and the flag was framed against nothing but sky. Using only the shadows on the flag and pole, and time of sunrise and sunset, approximate latitude and longitude were assessed — only then, were flight records examined.

It was much like the lost ancient art of sextant navigation.

scott467

Yes, and it was hilarious 😂🤣😂

Don’t know what happened to all the investigator anons. Just a day or so ago I posted a video of Chris Marcus, a silver analyst (so nothing to do with politics) showing his trip to D.C.

There appeared to be no one at the WH, which he commented about repeatedly. He walked to the Treasury building, it looked run down. Everything looked run down, like nobody was doing even basic upkeep.

Chris was looking all over for the National Guard troops, but didn’t see any. It was like a ghost town.

Certainly the 4-chan / 8-kun anons would be able to figure out if D.C. was essentially empty… it’s a whole city… and not just any city.

Certainly anons (I think they have some flying fags too) could tell us the license number and call sign of any plane that flew over the WH, at any time, in the last 15+ years, if there were any, at all.

RAC

I was thinking more about times and flights over the suspected film studios/sets.

Cuppa Covfefe

FWIW, the ChiComs have entire ghost cities, ostensibly built to keep their “fantastic” economy running and numbers looking good. Considering their “interest” in HollyWeird, they could be up to something. I know they have a replica of one (or some) city(ies) in Bayern, complete with a “Faketoberfest” (geesh, at least they got to have one this year!)…

Lots of unused buildings, etc., there that could be used… then again, no contrails, and the sky is probably brown with pollution…

Sadie Slays

In hindsight, I suspect that whole flag op was white hats grooming Anons for the Q digging that came later.

Deplorable Patriot

Some of us were ridiculed for making this claim weeks/months ago – that they were not in Washington – along with video and photographic proof, and it takes an airplane flying over for heed?

Really?

Gingersmom2009

Agreed. Everyone bats around Tyler Perry and Castlerock – when the likely place is Joppa Studios in MD, close to the DE/MD border, where Netflix’ House of Cards was filmed. I posted an Architectural Digest article here about this place and the sets, and now I can’t find it online.

Richard the Citizen Journalist – the guy who runs around DC filming, the one who filmed nothing going on while the “live” broadcast from the Rose Garden was on TV – should see if he can get footage of the press actually showing up for these events. Pulling into the driveway, or something. He has a chat room to go along with his telegram channel now, I’ll mention it.

If it’s fakery it’s Joppa Studios.

scott467

“Agreed. Everyone bats around Tyler Perry and Castlerock – when the likely place is Joppa Studios in MD, close to the DE/MD border, where Netflix’ House of Cards was filmed. I posted an Architectural Digest article here about this place and the sets, and now I can’t find it online.”

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Except if that’s true, then the Anons were all part of the psy-op.

They can find Sheea LaBuff and his flag, anywhere in the world, but they can’t find out whether Washington D.C. is a ghost town and the entire MSM press pool, administration and attendant entourage is operating out of some other location?

Do I have to go to Washington D.C. myself to find out the truth?

Do we now live in a world where I have to go outside and touch the trees and the grass to make sure they’re real?

Emeraldstar

>>”then the Anons were all part of the psy-op”<<

Invalid conclusion. Fallacious reasoning.

“If they can do THIS then they MUST be able to do THAT.”

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

You sure get a head of steam, Scott!

Please don’t disparage the anons – they (and we) are the news now.

Gingersmom2009

He broaches the subject, but it’s invariably a set-up. And we wonder why the comment tally is lagging. It sure gets old.

Emeraldstar

He’s posted some tremendous insights, and he’s also posted some tremendous mistakes (like now).

IMO, the former vastly outweigh the latter.

I’ve made some mistakes too – Who am I to judge?

The difference is that I – along with most others here – admit those mistakes.

I haven’t yet thanked Bakocarl for his inspirational, and spiritually-grounding, posts – so, TY Carl! The Palm Sunday post was another piece which I enjoyed (learned from) and took note of – I’d never heard / read the account of the event.

I especially liked his authored post on vanity / hubris / pride / conceit / arrogance.

For all my life, I’ve believed that it’s the number-one problem in this world, in re human frailty, and I am thankful for Carl’s mini-treatise on the subject, according to the Bible’s teachings.

VANITY.

When one thinks that one KNOWS, without question.

I’ve always tried (and, I hope, succeeded – at least most times, lol!) to couch my comments in the context of NOT knowing for sure.

The context of humbleness.

We are all imperfect … and yet, in some instances, we come quite close to perfection. Never fully … but good enough, sometimes, to help advance the pursuit of truth (God).

Gingersmom2009

Knows, without question. Sums it up. It’s the setup aspect that’s particularly off-putting for me. Toying with people is not a good look.

It’s like Thomas Wictor. (like the former commenter here) He was SURE all would turn out with the election. LANDSLIDE. That of course was true. But when everything ran off the rails, so did he. First a blackout, then those dark videos with just his face, now all the cryptic QV stuff. He could never come back from beating people up before the election.

I’ve said enough. Time to blow this bop stand. 😂

scott467

“Knows, without question. Sums it up. It’s the setup aspect that’s particularly off-putting for me. Toying with people is not a good look.”

____________

Would it not be much more helpful if you would simply articulate what you mean, instead of engaging in non-stop personal attacks?

Gingersmom2009

Funny, you don’t question Emerald, whose observation I was merely reiterating.

I’ll lay it all out and it’s the last I’ll comment. No matter how many times you ping me, this is it. Straight forward as it gets.

As I said in a reply to you awhile ago . . . regarding this issue, you don’t KNOW anything with ANY more certainty than ANYONE else here. Therefore you have presented your thoughts, as has everyone else. There’s no ARGUMENT to rebut, it’s all just thoughts.

Playing “who me?” is beneath you, perhaps 10 or 12 steps. You know exactly what I’m referring to when I said setting people up and using sarcasm to belittle and toy with them. And you know what Emerald is referring to by lack of humility.

We’re all looking for good faith discussion. Not more games. Again, I’m done today and done going forward.

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Emeraldstar

I’m glad that you’ve been here, G-Mom.

I may just take a break as well.

Too much vanity, for me.

Good luck, bless you and yours, and I hope we all re-connect after the SHTF.

Take care!

Gingersmom2009

Oh I’ll be here, blowing in and out as usual. Reading and lurking seems to be the way to go though. After you don’t comment for a couple of days, and your name’s not on the page to light up, no one even knows you’re here. 👍🏻 Best way going forward.

Emeraldstar

Excellent!

🙂

scott467

“Too much vanity, for me.”

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If this is a back-hand way of referring to me, would you please have the courtesy of addressing me directly, and explain your personal attack against me?

And if it is not directed toward me, would you please explain who you are referring to?

Thank you,

Scott

Deplorable Patriot

We need you Emerald. Please, don’t take too long.

scott467

“Funny, you don’t question Emerald, whose observation I was merely reiterating.”

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Indeed I did, please refresh your browser and check the time-stamp, it was 20 minutes before your reply.

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“I’ll lay it all out and it’s the last I’ll comment.”

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Yes, I know your routine, you’re going to have the last word, regardless of facts or evidence or argument.

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“No matter how many times you ping me, this is it.”

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No matter how many times I ‘ping’ you?

Are you implying that I might ‘ping’ you repeatedly, until you respond?

Have I ever done that to you before, or given you any reason to think I might do it in the future?

In fact, have I done that to anyone?

If I have repeatedly ‘pinged’ anyone (I’m guessing that means clicking the ‘like’ button) repeatedly until someone replied, would any such person please come forward and say so, in order to clear up the matter?

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“As I said in a reply to you awhile ago . . . you don’t KNOW anything with ANY more certainty than ANYONE else here.”

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And I haven’t disagreed, instead, I have examined what we do have reasonable cause to know, and reasoned from that knowledge, often in the form of asking questions.

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“Therefore you have presented your thoughts, as has everyone else.”

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Very much so. The difference is, I don’t complain about other peoples’ posts to everyone except the person posting them.

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“There’s no ARGUMENT to rebut, it’s all just thoughts.”

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Of course there’s an argument, we’re not all just randomly posting thoughts, there is a hypothesis, sometimes evidence presented in support, applied reasoning, a complete thought expressed to either form a conclusion or present a coherent concept for examination.

Generally, that is another term for ‘argument’, and if we disagree with someone’s ‘argument’, that’s great.

In that case, we cross-examine the ‘argument’, point out errors of fact or reasoning, in other words ‘test’ the argument to see if it can withstand at least basic scrutiny.

What we don’t do, or at least I don’t do, is complain about someone else’s ‘argument’ and disparage it as a ‘set-up’ to everyone who will listen, except the person who I’m disparaging.

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“Playing “who me?” is beneath you, perhaps 10 or 12 steps. You know exactly what I’m referring to when I said setting people up and using sarcasm to belittle and toy with them.”

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Unlike you, I’m not a mind-reader, GS.

If you are addressing me, then *&^&ing DO it already… why make it a guessing game?

Put your big girl pants on and have the common decency to address me directly… 😂 🤣 😂

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“And you know what Emerald is referring to by lack of humility.”

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No I don’t, what the *&^% is it with you assuming other people are living inside your head?

If you have a point, then why don’t you just make it?

What in the world is with all the juvenile “you know this” or “you know what someone else is talking about” stuff?

You’re unreal!

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“We’re all looking for good faith discussion.”

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By talking about others behind their back, but loud enough for them to hear, and then when asked directly, claiming others should “know” and be able to read your mind?

How is it you are so completely allergic to simply being direct?

If you have a point, make it.

If you have an issue with someone, address that person, rather than complain to everyone else on the forum about it?

Is that too much to expect of an adult?

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“Not more games. Again, I’m done today and done going forward.”

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That’s the same thing you said last time… 😂🤣😂

The only one playing games here, is you.

The only one making trouble here, is you.

The only one talking about people behind their back, is you.

And the only one who assumes people can read your mind, is you.

Now run away, brave sir Robin!

scott467

“The difference is that I – along with most others here – admit those mistakes.”

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Assuming you are referring to me, for the love of all that is good and decent, what mistake have I not admitted to?

I’m happy to admit to mistakes, and I do when I discover them or when they are pointed out — if they are established with some kind of credible argument, as opposed to just saying “I think you’re wrong”.

Which would at least be 10 or 12 steps above what Gingersmom does, who just dumps all over me, behind my back, but within earshot, so she can be sure I know about it 😂🤣😂

Emeraldstar

Good luck, Scott.

You’re a good man.

scott467

Good luck, Emeraldstar.

All I can do is try.

I won’t pretend to understand what just happened.

So if anyone thinks I do, this is a direct admission that I don’t.

It appears to be is a microcosm of the problems women and men have with communication.

The women seem to assume that because they can (apparently) read each other’s minds, that men can read their minds too.

Maybe some men can.

I’m not one of them.

That I can tell you… 😂 🤣 😂

scott467

“He broaches the subject, but it’s invariably a set-up.”

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How is it a set-up, what are you even talking about?

If you disagree with something I have said, then why not DEFEAT the point or argument?

Why just passively aggressively complain about it publicly, so that I will certainly see it, but not talk to the person you’re bad-mouthing?

Who does that?!?

I’m right here, talk to me, make your argument! 😂 🤣 😂

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“And we wonder why the comment tally is lagging. It sure gets old.”

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Who is “we”?

By what reason of logic, or undisclosed evidence, do you conclude that I am the cause of the comment tally lagging, and by what means have you measured this?

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scott467

“>>”then the Anons were all part of the psy-op”<<
Invalid conclusion. Fallacious reasoning.
“If they can do THIS then they MUST be able to do THAT.”
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
You sure get a head of steam, Scott!
Please don’t disparage the anons – they (and we) are the news now.”

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I am not disparaging the anons, I’m making a point that it can’t be true that the anons don’t know, i.e., if the anons were clever enough to determine wherever in the world some actor hid a flag, then the anons MUST BE able to determine whether a normal flow of people are coming and going at the WH… in D.C…. or not.

If they could determine something that obscure and difficult (finding a flag anywhere in the world), then they MUST be able to determine something infinitely simpler and easier.

If you can lift a ONE POUND weight with your arm, then you MUST be able to lift a HALF POUND weight with your arm.

It’s not invalid or fallacious reasoning, it is simply reasoning from the lesser to the greater or vice-versa.

If that is an invalid argument, then what type is it?

It will certainly have a name, like Straw Man, Non-sequitur, Red-Herring, Appeal to Emotion, Appeal to Authority, No True Scotsman, Bandwagon Fallacy, etc., all logical fallacies have names.

Which one is the one for which I stand accused?

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Emeraldstar

Faulty Analogy / Bad Analogy / False Equivalence / Apples and Oranges

(also related, Over-simplification)

The names of informal fallacies have evolved over time, and I’ve found that many of them overlap.

There is also an Appeal to Convention tinge to your question – “Anyone who asserts something must back it up.”

This hasn’t ANYTHING to do with the validity or soundness of the assertion.

The assertion may very well be both valid and sound, but by committing the informal Fallacy of Appeal to Convention, the reader places the burden of proof on the asserter. (“It’s always been done this way, therefore [sic] it must be done this way NOW.”)

When I said,

>>”If they can do THIS then they MUST be able to do THAT”<<”

… I was trying to point you in the right direction, so that you yourself could discern the fallacy.

ALL analogies, by their very nature, are both part false and part true, because they are inexact representations. Like, and yet unlike.

Geo-locating / finding a flag – outdoors, and visible, with physical clues available to anyone (con-trails, flight-logs, sun-position, time of day, etc.) – is one thing.

Finding out where a digital / electronic feed originates is an entirely different matter. It could be from ANYWHERE, piped in from cables / wires, and there isn’t any EQUIVALENT way to ferret out the source.

You know that there are tunnels – many tunnels, intricately connected – under DC and the surrounds, right? Who says that attendance (pre-, during, or post-event) must be visible from outdoors?

I think that a useful analogy here is

“Anons can play the piano, therefore they MUST be able to play the trombone – after all, they’re both musical instruments!”

“Anons can find where a flag is, so they MUST be able to find where the videoed press conference is – after all they’re both searches for locations!”

I think that your “lifting a pound v. lifting a half-pound” analogy is another example of a BAD ANALOGY, used in sequence to support you initial BAD ANALOGY.

Outdoors physical (above-ground, or uncovered) v. indoors digital (below-ground, or covered).

I decided to write this for you (and for Liz, and others) as a FAVOR. I could just as easily have let things be.

When someone tries to help another out, and then that another balks at not being helped “enough” … well, that’s a recipe for the helper to think twice about helping out again.

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Emeraldstar

“Faulty Analogy”

“This fallacy consists in assuming that because two things are alike in one or more respects, they are necessarily alike in some other respect.”

https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Faulty-Analogy.html

Gingersmom2009

As I replied to Emerald . . . you broached the subject, but it’s invariably a setup. A lead-in to this part of your act. Our commentary is way down because the vibe is so predictable.

Deplorable Patriot

Our commentary is down because one night fangs came out against a specific poster, and the more gentile and open discussion people walked. They will not participate.

And the rest of us are waiting for the shoes to drop before posting too much more. It’s not worth fielding the insults.

holly

Yup, it was off-putting to say the least.

TheseTruths

fangs came out against a specific poster

This is what I don’t understand, and it has happened before with others. A poster comes out with their own fangs, criticizing both specific people here and the posters here in general, and that negativity and blame are tolerated and pronounced okay. (A couple of instances: One person accused a female poster here of basically being a glory hound, which was a judgment on that female poster’s thoughts and motives and something the accuser could not possibly have known; it was just their speculation. Another castigated both Wolf and everyone here for various reasons which I won’t go into.) Then when people point some of those things out, they are the ones who are blamed and who are said to have the supposed fangs. Maybe it was done in a belligerent way, which would not be appropriate, but I think it’s entirely appropriate to call out someone who is acting like a jerk and disturbing the peace in the process.

Or maybe there’s something I don’t know about.

And the rest of us are waiting for the shoes to drop before posting too much more. It’s not worth fielding the insults.

I don’t understand what this means. Is this about certain theories about what’s going on in Washington, that people are reluctant to post them? I see a lot of posts about the WH not being used, the military being in cointrol now, and the like, and some posts that disagree with those theories. It just seems like normal discussion to me.

Deplorable Patriot

IF you’ve not been on the receiving end, you aren’t going to understand.

In the other instance, I’m holding my own opinions at bay.

TheseTruths

Okay.

I don’t know exactly what you’re talking about, but I will say this. I am open to hearing theories of all kinds, but it helps if people can defend them, especially when they seem completely implausible and even impossible.

The theory that no one is using the WH and they are using a movie studio in a state on the opposite coast is one of those. I don’t read as much as you do about it, but I’ve not seen one prognosticator post how it might work, in detail. Nor does anyone on this site post how it might work, down to details which would involve knowing how the WH press corps works, knowing the movements of Congresspeople who have been to the Rose Garden and other venues, knowing about conservative reporters who are covering the WH, and much more. When no one can answer basic questions, it makes it very hard to find a theory plausible.

Now, if there is some site near D.C. that looks exactly like the WH complex, that is a little different, but the same applies. Everyone needs to defend their theories.

I think that is why some become frustrated and even inappropriate in pooh-poohing theories. No one is saying how they would work.

scott467

Agreed 👍

Emeraldstar

>>”I’ve not seen one prognosticator post how it might work, in detail.”<<

Ok – I’ll give it a shot.

Green screens.

I posted earlier today on the total GAFFE during the “awards” thingy, wherein an entire PERSON disappeared from the video representation.

The woman walking behind Scarlett O during her “live” red-carpet interview.

We’ve heard about “deep-fakes” for the past year or so, yes?

It’s eminently plausible – and probable – that what we “see” on TV is adulterated crap.

That is, visual LIES.

Is it so great a stretch, to believe that the same deceptive tech has been – and is – being used for the putative “WH” events?

The media is IN ON IT. BIG tech is IN ON IT. In fact (IMO), BIG *everything* is IN ON IT.”

There are numerous “sets”, designed to imitate the WH. Who cares which one it is, or WHERE it is?

What else is needed for them to “work”???

As I’ve said many times before, by the time one is satisfied that we are being TROLLED by the BIG CLUB, one has wasted the time required to DO something against it.

Ounce of prevention, and all.

“Ok ES – NOW I’m sure. It’s the only thing I’ve cared about.”

“Armed with this surety, I can now say that it’s too late, and we’re all f***ed. You’re welcome! I’ve proved it! We’re lost!”

TT, please STOP seeking incontrovertible proof, and instead, protect against the possibility (probability) that what’s going on is REAL.

Again – by the time that YOU (or anyone else) are satisfied, it’ll be too late.

I suggest researching basic GAME THEORY, about how ones decisions should be based on the consequences of one being WRONG in ones guesses.

We don’t NEED to know the next step; we DO need to protect against the step AFTER that.

Am you making sense of what I’ve said?

Geez, I hope so!

I did pretty well in math …

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TheseTruths

I’ll address this first:

TT, please STOP seeking incontrovertible proof, and instead, protect against the possibility (probability) that what’s going on is REAL.

I’m not seeking incontrovertible proof. I’m asking people to defend their positions to a degree where someone who is thinking can enter the discussion. No one here or anywhere else has done that. No one can answer even basic questions about how it might work.

Your idea of green screens is no doubt being used all the time by the deceivers. But it doesn’t explain how the entire seat of government of the United States could have been abandoned with things being filmed on a different coast. I’ve raised multiple questions about it that no one can answer. This is not a demand for incontrovertible proof; it is a request that, if you want me to entertain your theory, give me some meat to chew on.

There are numerous “sets”, designed to imitate the WH. Who cares which one it is, or WHERE it is?

What else is needed for them to “work”???

You don’t think there could be any difficulties with having sets in place of the real WH, with all the people involved? You don’t wonder about conservative reporters? Or Congresspeople who have attended WH ceremonies? Or new appointees who have been sworn in at the WH? Or the entire WH staff who put together events? Or people who have met with Biden or Harris about matters not pertaining to government, like charitable or other events? Or foreign dignitaries or leaders who visit? Are you telling me that you think every single person who has anything to do with the Fraudulent administration — whether part of it or an outsider — is in on a scheme to not be using the WH? And that no conservative, from anons to those in the highest positions, has a clue?

Emeraldstar

TT, I consider you to be a really nice, perceptive, and all-around ethical guy.

I wish NOT to get into an argument with you!

We’re watching a MOVIE.

All staged.

We’ve been seeing the numerous anomalies almost daily.

We have MANY clues – the hard part, IMO, is putting them all together to arrive at a conclusion which fits all those facts.

Facts which the almost inestimable power of our oppressors wish to hide, or to subvert, or to make us question our own intuition and logic.

WWIII. Asymmetric warfare. The WORLD is the prize.

I gotta take a break! If necessary, we can revisit at another time.

Enjoy you evening!

TheseTruths

👍🏼

Gingersmom2009

Well I guess I was either part of the problem, or I missed it. I’m just tired of the repetitive set-up scenario – followed by sarcasm overkill. As if no one else here can think straight.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m not going to disagree.

scott467

“I’m not going to disagree.”

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Well how could you, unless you can read her mind and you know who she’s talking about?

scott467

“I’m just tired of the repetitive set-up scenario – followed by sarcasm overkill. As if no one else here can think straight.”

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Are you referring to me here, or to someone else?

Gingersmom2009

People – especially bright, sincere, thinking people – don’t want to be played, ridiculed or gratuitously toyed with. Repeatedly. Everyone is already on their last nerve, after living through the past year+. (and the 4 before that). So when they’ve had enough, they’re more willing to just lay it out there.

Is the “forum” the venue for discussions that are less than smiley? I’m barely here as it is, so if there was a memo (not the scroll-on-by) to that effect I missed that too.

scott467

To whom are you referring?

If it is me, won’t you just say so, and then make your case?

And if it’s not me, then maybe the person you are referring to would benefit from having a discussion with you about it?

What purpose is served by veiled attacks against some unnamed person and innuendo?

TheseTruths

Is the “forum” the venue for discussions that are less than smiley?

I saw at least one post where Wolf said that was his intention. i don’t know if he’s going to have a specific section for that, or what.

Gingersmom2009

OK thanks. 👍🏻

TheseTruths

YW!

scott467

“Our commentary is down because one night fangs came out against a specific poster, and the more gentile and open discussion people walked. They will not participate.”

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As with TheseTruths, I don’t understand either. All I can do is guess and speculate, which only adds fuel to the fire.

A) are you referring to when FG&C returned and criticized everyone?

I wouldn’t have handled it that way, but it also didn’t bother me as much as it did some, because the way to address comments we disagree with is to cross-examine and defeat the argument/point.

Maybe some of his points were good, too. It’s hard to evaluate, without actually examining and cross-examining his points.

B) how do we know why anyone ‘walked away’, or whether their reasons were all the same?

How do we know it had anything to do with FG&C, if that is the incident you are referring to, which I don’t know, because I can’t read your mind?

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“And the rest of us are waiting for the shoes to drop before posting too much more. It’s not worth fielding the insults.”

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What insults?

Who?

What?

When?

Where?

How?

It’s like going to church, and the preacher delivers a sermon on immodest dress, implying that someone was seen dressed inappropriately, but the preacher won’t say who it was, he just attacks the whole congregation.

As a result, nobody knows who did something wrong, nobody knows whether maybe they did something wrong and don’t even realize it, and nobody learns anything from the sermon except that the preacher doesn’t understand that he’s sowing chaos and division by painting the entire congregation with a broad brush instead of reserving his comments for the guilty and discussing it with them privately.

scott467

“As I replied to Emerald . . . you broached the subject, but it’s invariably a setup.”

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Is this your standard reply to anything you disagree with?

If you disagree with something I’ve said, instead of being passive-aggressive about it, why not just defeat the argument or point?

Why not attack the POINT or ARGUMENT instead of the person?

Gingersmom2009

You don’t know anything with any more certainty than anyone here. Therefore you HAVE no argument. I directed folks’ attention to MD, as opposed to GA or CA. No more, no less.

And lose the passive-aggressive nonsense, that doesn’t hold water either. I’m as straight forward as it gets.

scott467

“You don’t know anything with any more certainty than anyone here. Therefore you HAVE no argument.”

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That is a classic Non-Sequitur. Your conclusion does not logically follow from the premise.

Whether I know anything with any more certainty or not, it is separate and apart from whether I have an argument.

Or to say it another way, you cannot defeat or dismiss an argument by saying someone doesn’t know anything with certainty.

Try that in a court of law sometime, see where that gets you… 😂🤣😂

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“I directed folks’ attention to MD, as opposed to GA or CA. No more, no less.”

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That’s great… what does it have to do with the price of beans in Iceland, or your personal attacks and accusations against me?

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“And lose the passive-aggressive nonsense, that doesn’t hold water either. I’m as straight forward as it gets.”

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Sure, to everyone else except the person you’re disparaging!

…………………….
Passive-AggressionPassive Aggressive Behavior

“Passive aggression is a way of expressing negative feelings, such as anger or annoyance, indirectly instead of directly.”

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/passive-aggression
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Gingersmom2009

Update. Just type “house of cards set tour” and the Architectural Digest article will come up, AND an article from the Baltimore Sun with a gallery of 30 photos. All just outside of Baltimore, outskirts of Joppa near the DE/MD border. Poifect.

scott467

“Some of us were ridiculed for making this claim weeks/months ago – that they were not in Washington – along with video and photographic proof, and it takes an airplane flying over for heed?

Really?”

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I don’t recall ridiculing anyone over that, we live in a dream world where no one on the planet can seem to verify if an entire city, Washington D.C., the Capital of the United States of America, is even occupied with people.

It’s so stupid there aren’t even words for it. Even people in 3rd world *&^%holes at least know whether their own government is operating out of their own capital.

As for most ‘proof’, it’s always with strings attached, from some completely unknown and unknowable person, or potentially photo-shopped or otherwise manipulated, or from someone with a click-bait account making money, or all of the above.

The other day I posted a video taken by Chris Marcus, a financial analyst who focuses on the silver market (and manipulation thereof), as he walked around Washington, D.C.

He is a known person, and while he certain appreciates the views of his youtube channel, his focus is on silver, not on politics. He was in D.C. to speak with someone about (and provide evidence for) manipulation of the silver market.

He was just walking around with his camera, in D.C., showing that few people were there, there was no one around the WH except for possibly a Marine guard at the front door, and no national guard. The Treasury Building appeared vacant, with a Secret Service guard who apparently either didn’t know who Janet Yellen was, or claimed she wasn’t there.

So Chris Marcus is a real person, whose focus is unrelated to the circus we follow every day, who documented basic information while walking around D.C. with his camera rolling.

Next we have the video I posted above, where clearly an airplane is flying over the WH press room, or at least the room that’s supposed to look like the WH press room, and one of the primary bad actors in this farce, Red Jen, acknowledges the plane flying over the WH.

To my knowledge, a plane can’t fly over the WH, and hasn’t, since probably years before 9/11.

So a central player in the farce (Red Jen) acknowledging an event which can’t be taking place over the real WH seems substantially more notable (or credible) than Juan O Savin or Simon Parkes or some other player with 5 different dogs in the fight and a pound of flesh in the game who is saying it.

Emeraldstar

From Key-You (one syllable):

>>”[…]
Coincidence the Matrix (movie) grew people as a crop, used for energy, and controlled their mind?
Sound familiar?
Wonder where they derived that idea from.
Now comes the ‘conspiracy’ label.
Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes.
[…]”

Reiterating:

“[The d]eeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes.”

This is why I don’t automatically discount ANYTHING right away, no matter how “outre” it seems at either first blush, or second or even third.

Did anyone see the vid from the “awards” the other night, of a woman – walking in the background behind the interview of Scarlett O’Hara – just DISAPPEARING???

It was from a famous u-tuber – I’m spacing on his name ATM.

Green-screen / deep-fakes are REAL, and they’re broadcast over “live” TV.

There isn’t any way to verify whether what we’re “seeing” from video is ACTUAL.

Which means, of course, that we should ASSUME that it’s all lies.

Same goes for supposed “WH” vids …

scott467

“[The d]eeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes.”

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Which is the opposite of what should be.

Normally, the deeper you go, the more truth is uncovered, the more sense something makes, the more you understand it, the more real it becomes.

Why would the opposite be happening?

If the deeper you go the more unrealistic it becomes, wouldn’t that indicate you are moving away from truth, not towards it?

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“Which means, of course, that we should ASSUME that it’s all lies.
Same goes for supposed “WH” vids …”

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Agreed, but how would it be possible to keep a secret that the entire administration, and all their hangers-on, and everyone associated with the federal government of the USA, is not actually in Washington D.C.?!?

It’s not located on the dark side of the Moon, there are communities all around it, with hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people who work there and travel there every day.

They would ALL have to be in on the conspiracy, AND their immediate families, with nobody talking about it.

How does that happen?

GA/FL

Do you believe the media are complicit and the WH Press Briefings are actually taking place in Atlanta or elsewhere?

Were conservative firebrand journalists Chanel Rion (OANN) and Emerald Robinson (Newsmax) present at this briefing? 

Did any conservative, such as Rion, Robinson or Breitbart ask questions on VIDEO?

Was the noise a jet, propeller aircraft or helicopter? 

There re a number of valid reasons for airplane/jet/chopper noise to occur over the White House – an INFILTRATION BY AIR – such as a drone, plane, chopper – or an INFILTRATION ON THE GROUND – infiltration of any Secret Service White House protected space – authorities would likely call out choppers, jets, etc.

Or it could have been a show of force or extra surveillance due to a THREAT.

Or it could have just been a practice drill.  

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TheseTruths

I haven’t discovered yet if conservative reporters were present at that particular briefing, but I’ve done a little research to see if they are at some of them (because if they are, and the briefings are not at the WH, then they are covering something up).

Peter Doocy is the FOX WH correspondent. He and Emerald Robinson of Newsmax were both present at Hiden’s first press conference on 3/25/21.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/03/25/whos-who-at-bidens-first-press-conference-heres-the-full-list-of-reporters/

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/544962-foxs-peter-doocy-snubbed-at-first-biden-press-conference

Doocy was present but snubbed, as this snarky April 6, 2021, article reports.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/jen-psaki-peter-doocy

The only thing I’ve found about OAN so far is in this 2/23/21 account of their being in a turf war for space.

https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/oan-runs-into-more-conflict-at-the-white-house/

Now the San Diego-based network is locked in a turf battle with other TV networks over a spot just outside the briefing room – a patch off the North Lawn known as Pebble Beach. The networks have for many years used the area as the staging ground for their makeshift TV studios, positioning their correspondents in front of cameras and lights with the White House as a backdrop…

OAN won approval from then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows last year to set up its own studio on the site. It was one of several favors granted to OAN by President Donald Trump and his staff, following its favorable coverage of him…

But OAN’s setup, which includes a large tent and full array of cameras and transmission equipment, has drawn complaints from its network neighbors, who say it encroaches on their operations and crowds out smaller networks that seek to use the space.

On April 16, 2021, Emerald Robinson of Newsmax was present and asked questions.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/04/16/newsmax_reporter_emerald_robinson_americas_top_diplomat_is_telling_the_world_america_is_racist.html

Newsmax put out a tweet about it.

So FOX, OAN, and Newsmax definitely would know if press briefings were not at the actual WH.

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GA/FL

Excellent research – TheseTruths!!!! I’ve been busy with the wheelchair business and haven’t been able to get serious about looking into that.

TheseTruths

Thanks. Lots more could be discovered, I think. Best of luck to you with the wheelchair and everything.

RAC

“Ashli Babbitt’s family announces lawsuit against U.S. Capitol Police…”
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-ashli-babbitts-family-announces-lawsuit-against-u-s-capitol-police/

wheatietoo

I’m still not convinced that Ashli Babbitt was really killed.

The de-bunking videos are very compelling.
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cthulhu

I’m not sure there ever was a person named Ashli Babbitt.

duchess01

THIS X 1000!!!

Grandmaintexas

I think our side has effectively used her death to point out the hypocrisy of the oligarchs in DC., and dismember their narrative.

It would be quite something if she was still alive. I am reserving judgment.

Gingersmom2009

All you have to do is watch the Wooz News video. It’s all BS, she wasn’t shot.

wheatietoo

Yes!
That’s the best one!

RAC
wheatietoo

Thanks, RAC…verrry interesting.

There is so much we don’t know about that event with the Evergreen ship.

^^That^^ adds some more question marks to it. 

wheatietoo

Something I have wondered about this photo…

Is that a person walking on the water?
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RAC

Can’t tell if the camera is looking towards the sharp end or the blunt end, but to me that looks like a flag that that wrapped itself round its pole.

RAC

And what happened to THAT thingy one could click on to rectify mistakes?

wheatietoo

 looks like a flag that that wrapped itself round its pole.

Ah…and the flag is on the ship in the foreground.
That makes sense.
Thanks. 🤓 

Sadie Slays

There’s a very big local election coming up. Unfortunately, the only way I can participate is by registering Democrat. I do not want to register Democrat, my last vote was stolen, and I’m not the least bit convinced that even this local primary will be counted fairly. I was planning to sit this one out for the above reasons, but…this election is going to be close. I feel like I should at least try to support the moderate candidates. The neighborhood yard sign count was split on Trump/Biden in November with a tiny edge to Trump (IMO). I’m torn on what to do. I really don’t want register D after all the BS they’ve put us through.

wheatietoo

You could un-register after the election, couldn’t you?

Dems register as R’s for primaries, then switch back afterward.
It’s their way of trying to get the R’s that would be easier to beat in the general.

Sadie Slays

It’s the entire principle of the thing that bothers me. They stole my vote, they stole the election, and I’d feel disgusted being registered with them even if it’s only temporary. I was fine sitting this out until multiple races became competitive. 

wheatietoo

I totally understand…it’s a tough decision.

Dora

Beautiful Moon!
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Dora

wheatietoo

Here’s that gif…hopefully it will play here:

http://www.gun-nuttery.com/rtc.gif

kalbokalbs

^^^ Incredible 2A Rights progress, in the face of anti 2A lies. ^^^

That said, given the literal 2A wording, no additional state laws should be necessary for unrestricted Right To Carry.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

True, absolutely true.

In this particular case, this is probably about concealed carry.

Even back in the days when RKBA was assumed, some states banned concealed carry. Why? Because if you weren’t openly armed you were presumed to be up to no good. (My state’s constitution, and many others written in the late 1800s, actually have very strong RKBA language but then exempt concealed carry from the protection.)

Then open carry fell out of fashion and people even began to get “scared” when they saw someone carrying a gun, so the only way one could be armed without causing issues was to conceal. THAT’s when concealed carry became the only “reputable” way to carry. Our culture had actually gone through a reversal of the old norm.

So many states are almost unrestricted on open carry (mine is one, as long as you stay out of Denver), but no one will do it; so we end up asking for permission to carry concealed.

My second point is a gripe about the map. Wyoming is unrestricted, all right, provided you have a Wyoming driver’s license. They basically kept their old law against concealed carry, but made their own citizens exempt from it, as they had previously exempted permit holders, rather than just repealing the damn law. Visitors can still CC with a permit from their own state provided Wyoming has reciprocity with those states, and Wyoming probably still issues permits for use by people traveling elsewhere. I have no idea how many other “green” supposedly “unrestricted” states are the same way.

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Tuesday, April 27, 2021

“For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” 

Matthew 11:30 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!!!

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BE MY VOICE

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me.

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.

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Deplorable Patriot

On this one open schism works for me. At least the rats will be called out.

Grandmaintexas

It was inevitable. A long time coming, though.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes. And I know some strong willed women of a certain age who are NOT going to be happy about it.

Interestingly enough, being in music, I know A LOT of gay men, and none of the ones I know are clamoring for special treatment at all. In fact, just about all of them are either confirmed bachelors or in long time monogamous relationships that are more about companionship than not. And talk about defenders of women. They really can be gentlemen in that regard.

Grandmaintexas

I agree. The Left has used the gay community to try to divide us, just like the black community.

michaelh

They’re the ones causing the division!

They always love to re-frame this and blame others for what they are doing. “The conservatives are divisive! The old guard is schismatic!” Pppppfffwww!!!!

They also love to rally around “unity” which means abandon your principles and join us in total surrender.

Demonic.

I’ve just gotten to the point where I hear people preemptively throwing around words attacking people as “divisive” or “schismatic” I know right away they’re full of crap and nothing good is coming from them.

duchess01

PRESIDENT TRUMP – I’M BACK! BRACE FOR THE FINAL BOSS FIGHT!april 26, 2021 the marshall report

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/04/26/president-trump-im-back-brace-for-the-final-boss-fight/

Today, we are transfering power from Washington D.C. and giving it back to you, WE THE PEOPLE!

[Excerpt] Read more at the link above…

Grandmaintexas

From Patriots.win.
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Deplorable Patriot

Nice story, and probably something customers and clients can do themselves. Associate smells with memories to get it back.

Concerned Virginian

Well, well, looky here —
https://news.yahoo.com/india-expects-biggest-share-u-110836193.html
“India expects biggest share of U.S. doses of AstraZeneca vaccine: government sources”

Remember the terrible AstraZeneca CCP Virus “vaccine” fiasco in the EU and Scandinavia, with thousands of people who got the “vaccine” having severe reactions and/or dying from it (especially the elderly)? It got to the point where Germany, England, Denmark, and other countries, banned the use of the AstraZeneca “vaccine”.
So here’s JOE BIDEN (or his handlers), pledging to send millions of doses of this “vaccine” to INDIA to try and quell the “outbreak” of the CCP Virus there!
How could PM Modi go for this?

And one suspects that something else really fishy is going on regarding India and this CCP Virus “outbreak”.
Remember that Dictator XI is sending / infiltrating PLA to literally invade numerous “contested territories” that lie between India and Communist China (through its puppets, Sikkim and Tibet).
One suspects that Dictator XI is quite capable of ordering the release of, say, a new, virulent mutation of the Wuhan coronavirus into India to “soften up” the country as part of a larger plan.

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MAGA Mom

Interesting take – all progerss toward racial equality in the US has been accomplished by whites with blacks owning none of it.

Slavery? Yes, ended by whites.

Civil Rights … didn’t happen until the white left wanted it to happen and the precious “civil rights” they fought for don’t really seem to be so important to them now as they gladly give those up for their political agenda. 100% would not have happened without the white ruling class voting for civil rights. And yet, blacks were Very involved in the civil unrest that lead to those votes to make peace … IDK about the articles arguments on this.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/04/black_rage_its_all_about_the_humiliation.html

Linda

The white left? They didn’t vote for the civil rights act. That was the republicans. And the fact that republicans never mention all this is malpractice.

Deplorable Patriot

This might explain a lot. Always follow the $$$, even when it is wealthy women offering to build parish churches so that their sons can be pastors. (I know of two WEALTHY parishes where this is the case here. Built with the same woman’s money, too.)

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/mormons-moderna-sponsor-vatican-health-summit

MORMONS, MODERNA FUND POPE’S HEALTH GIG
by Jules Gomes • ChurchMilitant.com • April 26, 2021  36 Comments
Francis schmoozes doctrinally white-supremacist, pro-polygamy cult

VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) – A $100-billion cult rooted in white supremacy and an experimental vaccine manufacturer with financial links to pro-abortionist Bill Gates are among the controversial sponsors of the Vatican’s forthcoming summit on global health.

Mormon elder William King Jackson and Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel will address the Pontifical Council for Culture’s conference on “Exploring the Mind, Body and Soul” from May 6–8. The conference will also host abortion advocate Chelsea Clinton and New Age guru Deepak Chopra.

The Vatican invitation to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints follows Pope Francis’ unprecedented 33-minute meeting with Mormon president Russell M. Nelson in 2019 when the cult dedicated its new temple in Rome, not far from the Vatican.

Receiving Moderna sponsorship and hosting Bancel is also raising questions about Francis’ conflict of interest in pushing the jab — especially after some vaccine oligarchs (including Bancel and Moderna’s co-founder Noubar Afeyan) became billionaires profiting from the COVID-19 crisis. 

The health summit has already triggered a firestorm of criticism for parading a gallery of the mostly Western, elite, globalist, super-rich speakers in the name of “global health.” The Vatican is facing mounting calls to cancel the conference.

At least eyes are being opened on the money trail.

Dora

wheatietoo

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gil00

This is so stupid. In the comments they started doing this last year, but the bite me design on telling you what to eat made them feel like they needed to vs about it.

epicurious (@epicurious) Tweeted:
Today we announced that Epicurious is cutting out beef. It won’t appear in new Epi recipes, articles, newsletters, or on social. This isn’t a vendetta against cows or people who eat them. It’s a shift about sustainability; not anti-beef but pro-planet. https://t.co/yQ8PrtChtE

michaelh

Someone sent out a comms signal, because everyone is out there virtue signalling about cutting out beef to save the planet.

You know it’s all a PsyOp lie to control the public when eliminating cattle would be one of the biggest environmental and agricultural disasters American history.

gil00

Yes, and of course the elites will grow their own kobe supply.

duchess01

PLEASE PARDON ANY OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE – LOTS OF GOOD STUFF HERE
MARICOPA AUDIT MADNESS. MSM ARE SO AFRAID THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT!4.27.21

duchess01

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The gruesome twosome…

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duchess01

LOL

gil00

Lol….