DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20230824

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Badlands News Brief – August 23, 2023

BRICS Bank May Add Five New Members

‘Unmarked Indigenous Mass Grave’ Detected Under ‘Abusive Catholic Residential School’ Excavated in Canada – Turns Out to Be Just Rocks

And, yet, the Church was raked over the coals for an atrocity no one committed, and there will be no apology.

Germany Building ‘Mass Surveillance Apparatus’ Similar to the Nazis & Stasi, Historian Warns.

I get the idea it’s here in the west just about everywhere.

The Frame of Reverence

The Blunt Truth about Global Warming Models

Leftists Dig a Memory Pit for School Vaccine Mandates

Warning: They’re Trying to Normalize the Cancelation of the 2024 Elections

Hilary Epilogue: How Easy It Is to Panic Americans

Christianity and the Globalist Agenda

Project Veritas’ Financial Woes Go Beyond Layoffs

No James O’Keefe, no profits. It’s that simple.

Bring on the Counterrevolution

More rehabilitation of Nixon’s reputation. Hmm….

The Progressive Benefactor Who Makes U.S. Barriers to Foreign Cash Look Like Swiss Cheese

Deep State Spotlight: Victoria Nuland

Chessboard of Shadows: Prigozhin’s Deception

Putin plays for keeps

The Adversary Is Shifting Strategies and We Must Do the Same


And what we all waited for……



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9Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues, and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10And in the Spirit he carried me away to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, 11having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed; 13on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. 14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.



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Thank you, DePat, for yet another amazing episode of Thursday!


Citizen Free Press:

It finally happened.

The world’s greatest Trump impersonator Shawn Farash meets President Trump in person, and does the unmistakable voice.

The crowd loves it.

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It’s so weirdly funny to hear Trump’s voice coming out of somebody else next to the microphone!


Yes! I don’t know what the occasion was, but Faresh was dressed respectfully.


Funny !


This is a complilation of data on Georgia election fraud compiled by True the Vote and Open.Ink (Catherine Englebrecht and Gregg Phillips). I think you might need an account to access all of it, but it looks like a massive amount of material. Maybe the Trump case will lead to disclosure of some of this.

Special Collection | GeorgiaIntroductionThis special collection offers an in-depth look at True the Vote’s election integrity efforts in Georgia. It is not a complete recitation of True the Vote’s work; for that, we would have to start over a decade ago. Instead, this collection is meant to highlight a series of extraordinary events that began in 2020, are happening at the time of this publication, and by all indications, will continue throughout 2024. 
Certain documents, video clips, and other exhibits will not be immediately released for reasons including active litigation, protective orders, and ongoing research. will add exhibits to this collection as events unfold. 
Note on video: True the Vote currently stores over 100 hard drives containing Georgia ballot drop box surveillance video, ranging in size from 8 to 90TB. This body of evidence was collected by True the Vote through county specific open records requests. The drives have been preserved strictly as provided to them. 
To view the contents of these drives and maintain metadata requires the use of players particular to each recording device. If you are interested in obtaining copies of these hard drives, please email us at

Open.Ink Editorial: The Georgia and January 6th-related indictments against Donald J. Trump are predicated on the narrative that election authorities like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr, and others had thoroughly evaluated the accuracy of the 2020 elections and gave counsel to then-President Donald Trump that there was “no meaningful election fraud” based on their professional, supportable evaluations. True the Vote’s experiences in Georgia prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the General Election of 2020 was never meaningfully investigated. From the over 67,000 votes attached to voting records of individuals ineligible to vote in their jurisdiction to unmonitored surveillance cameras and phantom ballots, these errant processes should have been monitored and investigated before certification. As you will read, True the Vote repeatedly presented its work to Federal and State law enforcement officials. Authorities did not investigate. Instead, they obfuscated, delayed, and ultimately targeted President Trump, True the Vote, and others, for publicly exposing their failure to uphold lawful processes. Those who question the accuracy of the 2020 General Election were, and are, right to do so. team

There is a 52-minute video of Gregg and Catherine as well.

Brave and Free

So why aren’t they arresting Greg & Catherine for challenging the election like they are PDJT and his lawyers?
Will they come after them if the get a conviction against PDJT?


Dunno AND yes.


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Thank you, Kari, for speaking the TRUTH about Judas Pence.


Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene analyzed the debate on RSBN. It’s about an hour long. I skipped to one part, and MTG was saying nothing was mentioned about Hunter or any of the Ukraine scandals. Also nothing about transgender surgery on minors.




It’s a snapshot of what the RNC, and I guess Fox, think is important. Looks like “politics as usual” where you don’t rock the boat, you pretend scandals don’t exist, you pretend elections have meaning without addressing fraud, etc. Yes, yawn. But I’m glad someone took one for the team.


As am I, so I can yawn instead of watch.  😆 

Cuppa Covfefe!!!!

Isn’t that one of Satan Sauros’s deceptively-named NGOs???  👹 

There goes Ronna and the RNC dancing with the Devil again…


PDJT presents a strong countenance to the world, but these indictments have to be weighing heavily on him. I can’t imagine what it’s like to have to turn yourself in to thugs when you have done nothing wrong and were only trying to save your country. He needs all the prayers and support we can give.

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IMO one of the most important things we can do is to NOT DENY TRUMP.


^^^ THIS.

Do NOT deny Trump.

Promote “Trump”

  • Trump hat.
  • Trump bumper sticker.
  • Trump yard sign.
  • Trump flag.

>>> Trump 24/7 In Their Faces. <<< Make’m whine like little bitches.


Unless he really is in control and can pull the plug on the Crims’ farce at any time.

This is the constant conundrum.

If he is in control, then there’s nothing to worry about.

If he is not in control, then the ‘white hat narrative’ is completely bogus, and we’re all in heap-um big trouble.

It can’t be both.


If he is in control, then there’s nothing to worry about.

The act of turning yourself in to thugs who are your sworn enemies, the stress of making court appearances, and the experience of being persecuted are what I’m talking about. Whether one is “in control” or not, those are difficult, stressful situations.


I disagree with your last sentence. In control means what it says. Stress comes from apprehension about the unknown or uncertain. If either is present, then ‘in control’ is an illusion.


We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. One can be in control in the sense that a particular desired outcome will be realized, but the path to get there can be fraught with stressful situations. Even if I knew I were going to be found not guilty, I would find it stressful to be required to appear in court, enter a plea, get booked, and/or whatever else is required. Those are not pleasant experiences, and they can weigh heavily on people.

What causes stress? Much more than apprehension about the unknown. Getting stuck in traffic. Having to do double duty because a coworker misses work, again. Many other things. Surrendering to authorities and being booked ranks right up there, whether one knows the outcome or not.


Except if DJT is in control, he wants these things to happen. He needs them to happen.

And when they do, it’s like another winning number in the Powerball Lotto just fell into the slot.

If he is in control, then they are walking into his trap, not the other way around.

It would be hard to keep from smiling ear to ear, every step further into the trap they take.

No one can hurt him physically, not even if he takes Bongino’s advice and refuses to post bond, in which case the SS (and whatever private security he hopefully has) take over the whole floor of the jail, and no one except those ordered by the court ever even see him.

So zero physical danger.

And if he is in control, he can pull the plug on the whole thing, so there is zero anxiety of staying in the jail one second longer than he wants to.

That’s what I meant before, it can’t be both. Either he is in grave danger, or he is in complete control.

If the white narrative is true, then not only is he in zero danger, the worse the Cabal tries to make it for him, the more power it gives him when the tables are turned.

So he wants to have his mug shot taken. Turnabout is fair play.

If they perp-walk him, that’s even better, turnabout is fair play.

If they put him in a dirty, stanky cell, the dirtier the better. He won’t be there for long, but when it’s their turn, they will be.

The worse and more disrespectfully they treat him, the more power it gives him, whenever he decides enough is enough, shuts it down, and turns the tables on them.

So these things shouldn’t be stressful, they should make him giddy, that they are throwing themselves, head over heels, into his trap.

Unless the white hats are NOT in control.

In that case, it would be stressful.

But it can’t be both.


Either he is in grave danger, or he is in complete control.

I believe that even if he planned these things it would be stressful. Even if he were in complete control, the things he is having to endure are stressful. I don’t find your point of view realistic, so we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’m praying for his health, stamina, and strength.


“I don’t find your point of view realistic, so we’ll have to agree to disagree.”


Why not?

Logically, I mean?

If white hats are in control (and they better be), that necessarily means white hats have control of an apparatus bigger and more powerful than whatever the criminals in the Brandon administration have power over.

Effectively, that means white hats have control over the U.S. military.

This is the whole ‘white hat’ narrative from day 1.

It’s either true, or it isn’t. There’s no fence to sit on betwixt the two.

So if it is true that white hats are in control, that means at any moment, if Trump ever feels the slightest danger, or believes enough is enough for any reason, he can nod to an SS agent, a command is given over a radio, black helicopters appear in minutes, the SS protects him until the helicopters arrive, and he is whisked off to safety, while the Cabal is taken down all over the country.

If the fate of the Republic rests on the white hats, it’s a massive operation, the biggest operation in the history of the United States military, which means the biggest operation in the history of the world.

Every contingency has to have been gamed out and prepared for, because if the fate of the world hangs in the balance, you don’t just wing it.

It’s not DJT by himself vs. Cabal, because that would be suicidal.

And no one in their right mind would undertake such an endeavor without being in total control.

Is it a ‘movie’ or isn’t it?

Is it a ‘show’, or isn’t it?

This is what’s so frustrating.

If the white hats are in control (and I hope they are!), then DJT is in no danger, not even a little, because if he was, then the fate of the world could be sealed by some black hat joker, and you better make sure that can’t happen when you come up with the Big Plan in the first place.

How do you account for all the possible variables and work backwards from the desired outcome back to 2015, walking down the escalator?

How did Q know and reveal so much, and know so much that was yet to happen?

Sounds like something that would require Super Computers and artificial intelligence, something most people never heard of back in 2015, but which the military may have been using for decades.

I don’t know how they came up with the plan, or how they are implementing it.

I’m just saying that logically, rationally, if the white hats are in control (and I certainly hope they are), then Trump must be doing cartwheels of joy in his heart, every time they fall deeper into the trap.

The opposite of stress.

Which would also explain how he’s able to bear what would otherwise being a crushing burden, with seeming ease and confidence.

I have not been able to defeat the argument for Q since I came up with the defense for Q when we were still over at CTH.

If Q is real, then it seems the white hats must be in control, because I have yet to come up with any other rational explanation to account for DJT’s apparent invincibility.

No one person, no matter how smart, could continually foil the unlimited resources of the United States government.

It’s just very hard to believe the white hats are in control, because that necessarily means the white hats control the U.S. military (or the U.S. military is in control, six of one, half dozen of the other).

For one thing, it’s hard to believe that they would allow such destruction to happen to our country.

For another, if the vaxx is as dangerous as it certainly seems to be, it’s hard to believe they would allow 2/3rds of the U.S. population to be vaxxed. 220+ million people.

That’s more than all the Americans lost in all the wars America has ever fought, combined, by many orders of magnitude. So by any measure, it’s beyond devastating.

And it’s hard to believe because of the vast number of people necessarily involved, and the difficulty of so many people keeping total operational secrecy, for going on 8 years and counting.

It makes the Manhattan Project look like an open public exhibition high school science fair by comparison.

So I don’t know how they’re doing it, but they must be, because

a) no man could do what DJT is doing by himself

b) whoever is behind him would have to be more powerful than the U.S. military, because ultimately that is who DJT would have to overcome

c) the only institution more powerful than the U.S. military, the only institution which could defeat the U.S. military, is the U.S. military

I realize the drama and the plot of the ‘movie’ works better if it’s seen as Donald Trump vs. the Death Star, but if any view is not realistic, it’s that one.

Not even Luke Skywalker could defeat the Death Star by himself.

So I don’t see how we could be where we are, without the white hats being in control, which has to mean the military.

I just don’t know how they’re able to maintain operational secrecy so completely, and for so long, for an operation so enormous.

And I’m not sure why the bad actors are trying to fight it, because they have to know better than anyone what they’re up against, and there is no wildcard up their sleeve that can beat the U.S. military.

And yet I can’t be 100% certain, either way. Some days I think the white hats must be in control, and some days I think how is that possible, how could they justify allowing so much destruction to take place?

I can make an argument either way, but so far, I can’t explain DJT’s apparent invincibility without the white hats.

So given that either possibility seems pretty far fetched, and yet one of them must be true, it seems to make more sense if the white hats are in control, because if they weren’t, the reasons to think they must be would no longer exist.

At least that’s how I see it tonight.

It is fascinating, that’s for sure 🙂


Even if you are nominally in control, or even practically in control, this does not mean that your will is executed at the speed of light through the entire body of an organization.

It must be communicated, and then the legalists get their grubby mitts on it and try to pervert it. Then it must be implemented, and there will be those who wish to continue the way things have always been. Then its results will be second-guessed, and policies and society will get involved.

As Niccolò Machiavelli says in The Prince — “There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. For the innovator has enemies in all those who profit by the old order, and only lukewarm defenders in all those who would profit by the new order, this lukewarmness arising partly from fear of their adversaries … and partly from the incredulity of mankind, who do not truly believe in anything new until they have had actual experience of it.”


Back when all the Congress Critters started to carry around little pocket Constitutions I used to half joke that Bill Clinton was walking around with a pocket sized copy of the “The Prince” in his breast pocket, marked up with notes.

Actually it would of been hard to convince me that he was not.

Much going on in that little book. Portable too unlike the Arthahastra by Kautilya/Chanakya circa 350BCE that was much more extensive, though those sages advising kings in those days likely had it and moar all memorized.


Your BJ Clintoon quip is priceless.


All true, at least under relatively normal circumstances.

The circumstances we are in now are anything but normal.

We had a presidential election blatantly stolen in broad daylight, and the military allowed the criminals to seize power, at least to some degree.

And the criminals are operating as an organized crime syndicate, not as a representative government.

So we’re in uncharted territory.

If Trump is the lead actor in some kind of military action to restore the Republic, military orders would be followed quickly.

Military lawyers better have long ago established the lawful authority for whatever it is that they are doing, or propose to do.

As for Machiavelli, the white hats are not trying to establish a new order, they would be trying to restore the old one.

The obstacles Machiavelli refers to are circumvented by men with guns.

The U.S. military has guns, and far more of them, than the various criminal agencies of gov’t, a.k.a., the organized crime syndicate.

In any type of force on force scenario between the military and the various departments and 3-letter agencies of Crime, Inc., the military wins easily.


Can you say covert ops?

I knew you could.


Good posts, Scott and TT. Enjoyed it, much food for thought.

Scott – Super computing goes back a good ways, along with AI. DOD has been in on it for quite some time. From the BIMD story, I had one programmer employed on a temporary basis who was in the process of receiving top security clearance to go to work at the DOD/ORNL facilities on the then latest supercomputer version back in 2005. Research companies in defense, medical, tech, etc. littered the landscape of the area; all supported by government.grants, angel investors and globalists.

That said, I still have no idea if it is complete control or none. I am praying for white hats in complete control, but doubt it. The destruction of human life of our citizens part eats at me. It is the primary reason I doubt complete control.


I have a theory about “complete control.” I posted it to Scott, up above.


“The destruction of human life of our citizens part eats at me. It is the primary reason I doubt complete control.”


Yep, that’s the hardest one to reconcile. 👍


This is the one scenario in support of “complete control” allowing for all the “destruction” we currently see:

The “White Hats” have super computers running possible outcomes based on game theory, we assume.

What if, in all the possible scenarios except the one currently playing out, billions of people, instead of the millions dying now, are wiped out? By whatever forces we are up against, known or unknown, seen or unseen?

What would any of us do, faced with that choice?

When I’ve posited this before, all I get from most people is “that can’t be true.” But I think it can. Would I sacrifice millions to save billions? Probably. Thank God I don’t have that choice to make.

Is this actually true? Who knows? Not me.


Very sharp thinking. Kudos.  😍 




I have often thought that such decisions occur during war. War must be fought, and people will be lost. Those in charge have to implement winning strategies with hopefully the fewest losses that they can imagine. But there will inevitably be losses.

The same goes for some decisions that presidents have to make about taking out enemy combatants. Sometimes there is risk to those around the target, and there is risk to those carrying out the missions.


All true.


“What if, in all the possible scenarios except the one currently playing out, billions of people, instead of the millions dying now, are wiped out? By whatever forces we are up against, known or unknown, seen or unseen?”


Conceivable, but seems unlikely. More conceivable at the beginning (either 2016 or 2021) than now, because what you describe sounds like a sort of hostage situation, e.g., someone has a doomsday weapon (bio, nuclear, something else) and is threatening to use it.

If that was the case, the original response could make sense, but 3 years is an eternity for military intelligence to locate and eliminate whoever poses that threat.

It could be a decentralized threat, like self-launching nuclear warhead missiles inside shipping containers distributed all over the U.S., as one of the scenarios was discussed a year or more ago.

3 years is still a long time to locate and eliminate all of them.

The other really big problem that I always come back to is the secrecy.

In WWII, WWI and every war that has ever taken place in human history, the public (who stood to lose the most!) participated in their own defense and survival.

Whether it was men on the front lines, Rosie the Rivetter in the factories, mafia working with Feds to watch the docks and import/export, regular citizens keeping an eye out for anything that looked suspicious, and on and on and on.

When total destruction is a potential outcome, the public has a vested interest to know, and a God-given right to defend themselves, and the government has a Constitutional (and economic, and moral imperative to protect and defend the public.

If total destruction is a potential realistic outcome, then total mobilization of every available resource (involving the public) is mandatory. You don’t hold anything back, because doing so only diminishes your chances for survival. You need all hands on deck.

We’re not doing anything like that. Not even a teeny tiny bit. So apparently we’re not in any danger of annihilation, which, in turn, means there is even less justification for allowing all the destruction and loss of life to take place.

And besides all that, the government, our government, has no right to keep such a thing from us. They work for us, not the other way around. We the People created the Constitution, the Constitution created the government to serve and protect We the People.

Not We the People plus all the other billions of people of the world. We the People of the united States of America. If we can help them too, then by all means do so, but not by sacrificing 220+ million of your own people to do it. That’s definitely not part of the bargain.

Our Constitution, and the government we pay for, is a national Constitution, for a Sovereign People, not a global one.

If the white hats are in control, they don’t want our input in any way, except busy work to keep those of us who are paying attention occupied with a wild goose chase to enlighten people who don’t want to know.

Maybe that’s helpful in some edge case scenario, but it was never going to be determinative, because you don’t wait around until everyone understands and agrees on who the bad guys are to do something about a national threat.

You eliminate the threat, and then show everyone. If someone in leadership has a bad case of the feelz, and just needs to show everyone first, then DO it. Like we did at the U.N. during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Lay it all out, make your case before the People of the whole world.

What you don’t do is dick around for six years in a whisper campaign to wake everyone up, while 220+ million of your own countrymen get injected with death vaxx.

Besides that, if you wait until everyone crawls out of their safe space, mentally engages and comes to terms with their inner child, you’ll be waiting until the dawning of the Age of Aquarius, or our sun goes super nova. It’s ridiculous.

And besides ALL that, as a practical matter, the gov’t cannot even be allowed to keep a war secret from the public which it (the gov’t) serves. Our gov’t can’t even lawfully fight a war that We the People don’t authorize.

This makes good sense, because if the gov’t was allowed to do such a thing, how would We the People ever know if we WON, or whether we LOST and were taken over by a hostile victorious nation?

That’s why you can’t HAVE a ‘secret war’, not one that involves the potential loss of your own nation.

So there are ALL KINDS of problems with whatever it is that ‘we’ are supposedly doing.

The prime directive of the U.S. military, to protect and defend the Constitution and the Republic, is not and never was dependent on John Q Ostrich taking his head out of the sand.

But it very much does require the Authority and Approval of the American People who don’t have their heads in the sand, because that’s who the gov’t works for and serves.

We the People have RIGHTS.

The gov’t has duties and obligations, first and foremost, to We the People.


What you’re thinking doesn’t match what I’m speculating. At least I don’t think it does.

My theory, that all scenarios gamed out lead to billions of deaths doesn’t necessarily involve a particular threat from a person, group of people or government. Not a nuke, or a bioweapon, or a war, or any ONE thing.

What I mean is, in a game, there are MANY possible actions or events which could eventually lead to something huge that would annihilate billions of people. There are many possibilities. And there could be ONE path through the minefield of possible events. It’s like chess; if I make this move, there are say five possible moves the other guy could make. I have to consider what I would do if he made any of the five, and what I would do in response. Then he has more than one move in response to all of those moves. And so on and so on. Now multiply that by close to infinity.

I don’t understand all of game theory, but I do play a mean game of chess. 🙂

If ALL the moves at any given moment except ONE lead to checkmate, you make the one, or lose the game. Even if you have to sacrifice your queen. That’s what I’m talking about. The sacrifice of millions to save billions. And the game is ongoing. It is not static, and never will be.


“And the game is ongoing. It is not static, and never will be.”


Then are we not locked into a permanent state of never-ending war, with the MIC ruling the world, because we can never know who is winning, or who is losing, or even who won, or who lost?

In WWII, people could see who was winning, and who was losing. It took time for damage reports to travel across the world, the military obviously knew days (or weeks) before the public, but the public was aware of enough to know whether we were winning or losing, victories and losses on various important battles, etc.

If Hitler had won, everyone would know, and we’d all be speaking German now.

But suppose there was a secret war, and we lost.

How would we know, if the victors forced our Congress and judges and the goof in the WH to be their subjects, their proxies, their occupation ‘Vichy government’ to secretly rule over us, in exchange for getting to keep their positions of power, wealth and influence over us?

This is why you can’t have secret war when it could result in the loss of your own country, you end up in a scenario where you lose and the People becomes subjects of a hostile foreign adversary without even knowing it. And their lives just get worse and worse and worse, hollowed out and destroyed from the inside without resistance, while the proxy gov’t officials, like Jews who sold out their own people to the gas chambers, live a life of luxury.

A lot like the country we live in right now.

You could have a secret war in little countries all over the world, like the criminal See-i-A does every day of the week, and it won’t be lawful, but it also doesn’t lead to the possibility of losing your own country.

If your own country is in danger of being lost, you can’t keep that a secret, because if you lose, the People never know they’ve been taken over.

And the People, whom the government exists to serve, never have the opportunity to defend themselves.

Preventing the People from knowing about a war that could result in the loss of their own country is an unpardonable crime of the Highest Treason.

It could only be done by bureaucrats who have no lawful Authority to make such a decision.


Another big issue is that just like Russia knows (and comments about frequently), we also know that an exceptionally small number of globo-tyrants and oligarchs are responsible for ALL of the global insanity.

For Agenda 2030, Event 201, depopulation / genocide, Climate Scam, Operation Constant Chaos (my own name for it), lawfare, weapons-grade propaganda against civilians, Vaxx-genocide, etc.

It’s all being orchestrated and funded by less than 100 people, probably less than 20 people.

And none of them are leaders of any nation, they are ALL private citizen billionaires, or more likely, trillionaires.

A handful of individuals with more money than anyone in the universe besides God.

These international criminals benefit from having no nation to defend, and yet have control over greater financial resources than any nation on earth (including ours).

They are terrorists, psychopath tyrants whose only desire is to destroy humanity.

It would take about 30 seconds for any of the larger nation-state militaries to wipe them out.

Our own Constitution provides for just such a problem, authorizing the issuance of Letters of Marque and Reprisal, against specific individuals, for specific crimes.

The bearers are the Letter of M&R (e.g., Navy SEALs) can cross any border to carry out their mission.

There is nothing, N O T H I N G whatsoever, that requires us to be sitting ducks, for going on half a decade, while John Q Ostrich gradually stirs from his deep slumber.

There is nothing that justifies allowing 220+ million Americans to be injected with Death Vaxx, or 5+ billion people around the world to be injected with Death Vaxx, because nobody can figure out what to do about 20 people who are committing genocide.

If any government is too weak and pathetic and corrupt to stop it, then lots of patriotic individuals within any such government can RELEASE the NAMES and EVIDENCE of the CRIMES to the PUBLIC.

And the PUBLIC can find these bastards and eliminate them, if the militaries are too big of a bunch of p^ssies to do it themselves.

Soros doesn’t have an army to protect him. Neither does Gates, or any Rothschild, or Schwab, or any of the other demonic ghouls.

Put their names and faces in the public, and let the public save themselves.

It would take about 24 hours to locate all 20 or so of these self-absorbed super villains.

Those who were spotted out in public would do the Mussolini dance on the spot.

Those who were discovered in their ‘compounds’ or mansions would be surrounded and burned out.

It would be over in less than a week.

So there’s no excuse for any of this bull&^%#.

We’re like hostages who have Stockholm Syndrome, trying to come up with excuses to justify the actions of the criminals who took us hostage.

But that’s not how it works, not for Sovereign People who have God-given rights.

We the People should be holding the authorities accountable. The very LEAST they are obligated to do is INFORM the public as to WHAT in the HELL is going on.

And the only reason they wouldn’t is not because of some grand noble ‘saving us from ourselves’ BS.

The reason people in power hide things is always the same.

It’s because they screwed up, and they don’t want to be held accountable for it, so they bury it, cover it up, make sure the secret is never found out.

That might be par for the course in a lot of *&^%holes around the world.

It’s not par for the course in America.

Somebody’s gonna pay.


You are still misunderstanding me. Sorry.

Killing those 20 people would have been gamed out by the super computers. The outcome of that would be known. And it could be WORSE than what is currently happening.

You are thinking in conventional terms, as it appears to me.


“Killing those 20 people would have been gamed out by the super computers. The outcome of that would be known. And it could be WORSE than what is currently happening.”


That is an argument for war in perpetuity, because:

We are never told who the enemy is.

We cannot know how the war is going.

We can never know if or when the war is over.

We can never know who won.

War is the ultimate excuse to usurp power from the People.

These are all guaranteed (not speculative) results of a ‘secret war’.

These are just a few of the reasons why no such ‘secret war’ can ever be allowed to take place, because it will always be to the advantage of those in power to make sure the war never ends.

In order for a condition of war to exist, the entire premise, is that someone, somewhere, is engaging in hostile aggression toward you.

As a practical matter, it is practically impossible to engage in war against a nation, without that nation knowing who is attacking them.

In the current situation, the public knows who many of the most visible hostile aggressor are. The intelligence agencies and military know exactly who all the others are, and where they live.

The resolution to war is to surrender, reach a truce, or defeat the hostile aggressor.

I’m very partial to Door #3.

If you eliminate the hostile aggressor(s), by definition, war ends.

No matter how the computer games it out, eliminating the opponent is objective and the definition of victory.

When the hostile aggressor(s) are eliminated, there is no one left to DO anything worse than what is currently happening.

Unless you are thinking some kind of trans-dimensional time-warp sci-fi scenario, eliminating the enemy ends the war.

The enemy is known.

The enemy’s location can be ascertained.

The enemy has no credible nation-state level military defense, only private security.

The enemy can be easily defeated.

If our government is too corrupt to do their job, then individuals within our government, patriots, ‘whistle-blowers’, have a duty and obligation to inform the public about what the HELL is going on, along with the names and coordinates of the enemy.

The one thing our government never, EVER has the right to do, is engage in any secret unauthorized war.

They do it anyway, all the time.

The difference is that now they are doing it to US.


And the lawful remedy to that is to cut their #*&^ing treasonous nuts off.


“And the lawful remedy to that is to cut their #*&^ing treasonous nuts off.”

Good luck with that.

Honestly, the way we win is to withdraw not only our consent, but our labor, support and money.

I’ve advocated for years now that the solution is a national strike. But only Trump could call for it, and he hasn’t. So here I am, waiting. If all the MAGA patriots just sat down for a month, they’d fix the mess. They would have no choice. You can’t play chess with no pieces.


“I’ve advocated for years now that the solution is a national strike.”


I’m all for it!

It would only be a first step, but that first step is critical.


“If all the MAGA patriots just sat down for a month, they’d fix the mess.”


I don’t know why they would. They have plenty of money, they have the military, they have access to all the supplies they would ever need, and air transport in and out of the capitol if necessary.

They have so much money they could fly to gay Paris every day for lunch, and twice on Sunday.

So they can literally afford, in every sense of the word, to wait us out, forever.

They won’t run out of anything, before we do. They won’t run out of anything, ever.

The same reason why strikes don’t work in France, or Brazil, or anywhere else they’re tried.

But it is still a critical step, because the People have to learn what doesn’t work, before they will be ready to try what does.


You still don’t see it.

You want us to turn on them and fight. At which point they would destroy us.

I want us to all sit down and quit, so THEIR OWN PEOPLE, the leftists, turn on them.

Why do you think we would make better cannon fodder than Antifa and the rabid left?

You keep advocating for actions that would get us all arrested and jailed, at minimum, or killed outright. That doesn’t make any sense to me.



“What would any of us do, faced with that choice?”


The Constitution would require us to defend and protect the American People first, and we then have a moral imperative to help everyone else we can, once our own nation is secure.

The same ought to be true for every other nation, but many of them have people who murdered their way into power and now use force (including murder) to maintain power (otherwise known as kings and queens).

They don’t have any obligation to their subjects, besides a moral obligation, and morality has always been very difficult for mass murderers.


“When I’ve posited this before, all I get from most people is “that can’t be true.” But I think it can. Would I sacrifice millions to save billions?”


Does the Constitution provide for the option to sacrifice at least 220+ million Americans, in order to save billions of foreigners?

Does the gov’t, which was created to serve and protect We the People and our Republic, have lawful authority to sacrifice us, without our consent?

Would We the People ever consent to be sacrificed?


“Would We the People ever consent to be sacrificed?”

If you KNEW beyond a shadow of any doubt that if you died your children, and their children, and all of future mankind would live if you died, would you do it? I hope I would.


Any individual can make that decision for him or her SELF, if presented with that scenario.

But no representative of the People who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the Republic can ever make that decision for anyone else.

No government civil servant, up to an including the President, gets to sacrifice us.

His #1 job is to protect the Republic, not sacrifice it.

If some extraordinary situation existed where preserving and defending America meant the rest of the world was destroyed, POTUS *&^% well better choose America over the rest of the world.

Because at that point, that’s his ONLY job.

He was elected by us, to represent us, our country, our interests, our survival, and it has to be that way, every nation has to look out for its own survival.

If an elected leader turns his back on the people who elected him to represent them, and he chooses to sacrifice his own nation to save some other country instead, that’s not noble or good, it’s a complete and total betrayal of his own blood, his own family, his own nation and People.

Representative government precludes the possibility of anyone who represents us from sacrificing us for any hazy, sentimental ‘greater good’ Marxist BS.

A king who answers to no one might indulge his own dark fantasies and sacrifice his subjects in some such vile betrayal.

The man we elect to protect and defend us does not, cannot and never will have that right.

Not under any conceivable circumstances.

If any inconceivable circumstance should ever arise, e.g., space aliens threaten to destroy the world with a doomsday laser from space unless we all surrender to WEF, then our leader better trot himself out before the public and tell us the score, and let the People decide what to do about it.

Because that is OUR right.

NO ONE has the right to make that decision for us.

There is no conceivable circumstance where any leader has the right to sacrifice 220+ million of us.

Or even 1 of us.

That’s not his decision to make.

Because you can’t violate the rights of any person under the pretense of protecting the rights of everyone else.

By doing the former, the latter are not protected, they’re just next.


Jeez, Scott, you know that if we were threatened by annihilation by aliens, and they told everybody, we wouldn’t just have an alien problem. We would annihilate ourselves.

The vast majority of people would panic, and utter chaos would ensue. This isn’t the movies, where some obscure good guys rise up from the masses, and everybody follows them. People would freak out. Look how people responded to something as innocuous as Covid. Many are still freaking out.

This game you and I are playing is interesting, but ultimately fruitless, speculation. Because we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.


“Jeez, Scott, you know that if we were threatened by annihilation by aliens, and they told everybody, we wouldn’t just have an alien problem. We would annihilate ourselves.”


I do not know that — in fact, based on my reply to your next point, it seems very unlikely.


“The vast majority of people would panic, and utter chaos would ensue. This isn’t the movies, where some obscure good guys rise up from the masses, and everybody follows them.”


Exactly. This is not the movies. In the movies, everybody panics.

In real life, the government just recently came right out and told the American People that we have UFOs flying around all over the place, we have downed craft, and in public testimony before Congress, the bodies recovered from these craft are of non-human origin.

And everybody yawned.


“People would freak out. Look how people responded to something as innocuous as Covid. Many are still freaking out.”


Even if that was true — which it doesn’t appear to be based on recent real life events — how would that give the gov’t any lawful authority to lie to We the People, or violate our Rights (or their duties and obligations) in even the slightest way?

It wouldn’t.

Like you said, it’s not a movie. There are procedures to follow to inform the public, whether it’s an attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese, or an eminent attack by Godzilla, or a threatened attack by Martians.

The Martians bit did cause a ruckus back in 1938 with Orson Welles doing the narrating on the radio, but we’ve seen that now, and we’re a little (not a lot, but a little) more sophisticated with regard to such things than people were in 1938.

After all, Roswell hadn’t even happened yet in 1938, not for another 9 years, after WWII was over.

Since then, the public has had over half a century to get acclimated to the idea of space aliens.

Just take a gander at this programming. We should be more comfortable with aliens than with a lot of our neighbors 😁

This is just a sample, not including hundreds (thousands?) of others, and many sequels of the better ones:

In 1951 we had The Day the Earth Stood Still.

In 1953 we had the color movie version of War of the Worlds.

In 1956 we had Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Star Trek (TV series, 1966-1968)

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)

Star Wars (1977)

Invasion of the Body Snatchers (remake, 1978)

Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979)

Alien (1979)

The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)

The Thing (1982)

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)

The Terminator (1984)

Aliens (a.k.a. Alien, part 2) (1986)

Predator (1987)

They Live (1988)

Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)

Independence Day (1996)

Men in Black (1997)

Starship Troopers (1997)

Contact (1997)

The Matrix (1999)

District 9 (2009)

Edge of Tomorrow (a.k.a. Live, Die, Repeat) (2014)

Arrival (2016)


“This game you and I are playing is interesting, but ultimately fruitless, speculation. Because we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.”


And one of the points I’m trying to make is that there can be no lawful excuse for WHY we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.

Not in our Constitutional Republic.

We have a RIGHT to know, and they have a duty and obligation to TELL us.


Scott, I’ve read your series of comments three times. Made all my regular stops, more than once, over the last 12 hours looking for someone to post anything like what I’m feeling. And this brief thread is it.

I was hesitant to watch the interview, simply because I know everything he’s going to say. I also know what he won’t say. I’m always hoping for that breakout moment when Trump starts talking straight, affirming what people REALLY know, like a combination of Mark Robinson and Douglas MacGregor.

And although the interview at face value followed the same script, I have come away with an odd new feeling. Trump now appears enveloped in something, like cocooned, for protection. He’s still able to communicate, but his emotions seem so tamped down that it’s uncomfortable to watch. There’s no normal range of emotion, no real animation in his speech. It almost feels other-worldly.

So, like you said, it’s one or the other. He’s just a man with gobs of money that loves this country and wants it back, but was out of his league dealing with the level of evil and depravity running DC and the world. Or he’s playing the role of being out of his league, and we’re near the breaking point.


He’s still able to communicate, but his emotions seem so tamped down that it’s uncomfortable to watch. 

Another factor might be that he is hamstrung by the indictments regarding what he can say or express. He might have to be very cautious for the time being.


YES!!! He can’t allow control to transfer to someone not on his team [the judge on contempt charge for disobedience]


It is good to see you, Gingersmom!

I was wondering about you the other day, when I was thinking of a few people I have not seen around lately. I hope you are well!


“I’m always hoping for that breakout moment when Trump starts talking straight, affirming what people REALLY know, like a combination of Mark Robinson and Douglas MacGregor.”


Me too 🙂

Tucker asked him a few very pointed questions, like since even prosecuting him isn’t going to stop him, what is their next move, except to try to eliminate him?

But DJT wouldn’t answer, he deflected.


“Trump now appears enveloped in something, like cocooned, for protection. He’s still able to communicate, but his emotions seem so tamped down that it’s uncomfortable to watch. There’s no normal range of emotion, no real animation in his speech. It almost feels other-worldly.”


He did seem a little subdued. He could have been tired, or maybe it was intentional.

I didn’t notice anything alarming though.

I hope you will post more often, we have fun here, the more the merrier 👍😁


Uh, this is the comment section. Not the stand alone post section.

/s  😎 


I assume this was addressed to me. I see it’s SOS different day over here. SMH


Looking to give Scott a hat tip – and I’m met with this nonsense.


Muchos gracias, señorita!

Come join us, and bring a can of nonsense-away spray if you like 👍😁


No. It’s sarcasm directed at Scott. I am not responsible for how browsers show subthreads. Actually, none of us are.

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pgroup: Actually, you have to scroll up a LONG way, but your reply does indeed show as a reply to Scott. It displayed correctly.

Someone else misinterpreted.


Nah, it was to me, we just razz each other a lot here 😁


Same shit, new day with you I see.

pgroup’s reply was to Scott.

Can’t say I’m happy to see you. Cause I’m not.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep, just wonder about pop-ups when things look to be getting ugly… sort of pre-schadenfreude.
Used to see in pairs (Paris?)…

Each comment has the “reply to” at the top. Wurst press could do better, but that depends upon the “theme” chosen, and if WP has goofed it up (updates without testing, for example)…..



Yes. Same thought I had. Exactly the same thought.

We are going to be assaulted from all sides for the next year+. It’s going to be brutal.


“I see it’s SOS different day over here.”


Save Our Ship is one of my favorite nautical expressions!


Interesting exposition on being in control.


Exposition??? It’s a dang seminar!  😀 

Cuppa Covfefe

Seminars by Exposition? The LA Coliseum?

Vermont, Jefferson, Figueroa, and Exposition Blvd. My old stomping ground in the early 1970s… 🙂

Corner of Vermin and Jefferson was “El Rey Taqueria”, home of the famous catfood garbage burrito… Seems they “cut” the meat in the burrito to make it go farther…. (yuck)…

Then, there was Tommyburgers… epic… Had a pacific islander (HUGE) called “Frenchy” who could toss a burger into the air, pick his nose, wrap the burger, and stuff it into a bag before you realized what had happened 😮

And, after all that, washing it down with grape/strawberry/pineapple/chocolate/cream/lime soda… ahhh, those were the days 🙂 heartburn chili, cheese, and burgers on a bun…




Its raison d’être is to have holes poked in it, wherever they might be 😁

Cuppa Covfefe

Supercomputers have been around as long as CDC and Seymour Cray, and with the various DARPA projects, even longer. And “Artificial Intelligence” (an unfortunate, at best, term) has been around since the 1960s, where it was called “Expert Systems” and proffered by the likes of IBM and their feasibility study “ELIZA”…

If the libtards attempts at modeling are anything like their abysmal attempts at modeling the weather climate, they are in for a VERY rough time.
Then again, their REAL stupidity (and hubris) will be the end of them…


We might wish to leave open a wider view on all this.

About as wide as you can get with this.

The Trinity is at work here and only the Holy Ghost remains above.

In end times Christians say the Son returns. We understand what that means.

What if the Father said hold on Son. Lets give them one last chance.

Sometimes it feels like that.


Massachusetts judge: Second Amendment rights cross state lines

As FPC Action Foundation’s Cody J. Wisniewski said on Bearing Arms’ Cam & Co yesterday, since the Bruen decision was handed down by the Supreme Court last year we’re starting to see lower courts around the country start to take the Second Amendment a little more seriously. While we’ve still seen some egregiously awful misreadings of Bruen over the past twelve months, we’ve also seen some major successes, including one case out of Massachusetts that addresses the fact that in many states, your right to keep and bear arms stops at the state line.

As The Reload’s Jake Fogelman reports, a Massachusetts judge recently concluded that the state’s prohibition on non-residents bearing arms for self-defense without first obtaining a temporary license to carry is a violation of their Second Amendment rights; a stunning development in a state where lawmakers are currently trying to obliterate the 2A rights of gun owners inside the borders as well.

Part of the ruling:

“This Court can think of no other constitutional right which a person loses simply by traveling beyond his home state’s border into another state continuing to exercise that right and instantaneously becomes a felon subject to mandatory minimum sentence of incarceration,” Coffey added.

Coffey’s decision isn’t an immediate game-changer for anyone other than Dean Donnell, but it’s very good news for gun owners across the country and a sign that the courts are going to have to take this issue seriously. Why should I be able to exercise my right to bear arms in my home state of Virginia but lose that right when I cross the Potomac into Maryland? Why should anyone visiting places like California or New York be deprived of their Second Amendment rights when they cross the state line? Or maybe a better question to ask is why authorities in these states think they can get away with violating the constitutional rights of non-residents?


Seems something like — where people married in one state do not cease to be married by passing over a state border.


The institution of marriage was created by God, for a man and a woman:

“Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” (Genesis 2:24, KJV)

A man and woman, joined in marriage, are married in the eyes of God, wherever they go.

Whether any state chooses to recognize it, or not, is the state’s problem.


There are various restrictions, state-by-state, on marriage within the state.

Some revolve around age — [ ]. Some states allow younger persons to be married with judicial consent and others allow younger persons to be married with parental consent.

Some revolve around consanguinity, real or assumed — some states ban first cousins from marriage, while others ban a man from marrying his brother’s widow.

Historically, there have been state bans against miscegenation, though these were found unconstitutional by SCOTUS in 1967.

None of these restrictions contemplate God’s will.

I should note that my position during the ginormous gay-marriage rave up was that our body of laws should be meticulously reviewed where “marriage”, “spouse”, “husband”, and “wife” were encoded in the text, and amendments to such laws be made to eliminate any secular taint into said holy bond.

Instead, as is usual, SCOTUS flat-footed themselves into the controversy and said same-sex couples could be married under law. We’ll likely be paying for that mistake as long as we paid for Roe v. Wade. It completely fits the classic Iowahawk pattern: “1. Identify a respected institution 2. kill it. 3. gut it 4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.”

Instead of asking, “why the hell is the Federal government talking about marriage?” and fixing that, SCOTUS decreed that every potential marriage has to follow the laws of Federal marriage. This will not mix well with sharia.

Back to “full-faith-and-credit” — it has long been held that marriage in one jurisdiction will be held to be valid in any other. This has passed into popular culture in “Las Vegas weddings” (and also in Georgia, which served as a haven for those who could not legally wed in Tennessee).


We agree that same sex marriage is a terrible SCOTUS decision. I don’t see it as a mistake. I see it an intentional action to help the side we are fighting.


“There are various restrictions, state-by-state, on marriage within the state.
Some revolve around age — [ ]. Some states allow younger persons to be married with judicial consent and others allow younger persons to be married with parental consent.
Some revolve around consanguinity, real or assumed — some states ban first cousins from marriage, while others ban a man from marrying his brother’s widow.
Historically, there have been state bans against miscegenation, though these were found unconstitutional by SCOTUS in 1967.

None of these restrictions contemplate God’s will.”


I strongly suspect some of them do, as so many laws (ultimately, if you trace them back far enough), do.

I can’t even begin to imagine why a state would ban someone from marrying his brother’s widow. Under some conditions, that’s what Jews in the Bible were supposed to do, in order to raise up seed in his brother’s name, if the deceased brother had no children.

See Genesis 38:8, Deuteronomy 25:5, Matthew 22:24, Mark 12:19, Luke 20:28


“Back to “full-faith-and-credit” — it has long been held that marriage in one jurisdiction will be held to be valid in any other. This has passed into popular culture in “Las Vegas weddings” (and also in Georgia, which served as a haven for those who could not legally wed in Tennessee).”


That may all be true, but I don’t know why it matters.

I don’t know why the state should have any involvement in a marriage, unless a crime is being committed.

Just like masks and shots, people do all sorts of things because that’s just what everybody does.

Like getting a marriage license.

It’s just what everybody does, right?

Does anyone ever question that, or ask why?

Adam and Eve didn’t get a license from anyone, and if they didn’t need one, neither do we.

There are certain ‘benefits & privileges’ that come with a license, like being able to file jointly and save a little on taxes. I can’t think of any others.

But there are huge potential penalties that come with a license.

Like the state becoming central to a three-way contract between husband, wife and state. Should the husband and wife choose to get divorced (adultery being a permissible reason according to God’s Word), it could take up to a year or more in some states to finalize a divorce, if you obtained a marriage license.

If you don’t have a marriage license, and you have a private marriage contract instead, and your spouse commits adultery, and you choose not to forgive but to divorce, then you are divorced, according to the contract.

Any assets and alimony are determined by the contract. If you have a marriage license, you get to go to court (the state was part of your marriage contract via the license), and the court will decide who gets what, if there is anything left after the lawyers take their share. Good luck.

But if you have a marriage contract instead of a marriage license, then the only authority any court will have is if either party violates the terms of the marriage contract, to enforce a valid contract.

If you have a marriage license and there are children born, the state has a 1/3rd interest in those children. That’s why the state can bust down your door and take them away, if the state decides you’re not properly caring for their children, which the state allows you to care for, until they become full grown taxpayers.

I know, I know… it’s like talking about Tesla or Bitcoin here, or like talking about shots to normies 😂



Great video, Don Jr. nailed all the great points 👍


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112M now 👍😁👍


179,9M this morning.
Anyone have numbers on the debates?


And those are just the twitter numbers from Tucker’s feed. There were other feeds, like Cat Turds as well as other platforms like Rumble, YouTube, Parler, Gab… and Truth!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Even at 12 M it is the biggest non-sports cable rating of the year.


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Cuppa Covfefe

Peter and Pele…


King Kamehameha, of Hawaii. Methinks.

Cuppa Covfefe

Looking at the colors, it could be Tommy Trojan, or a member of “The Spirit Of Troy”, the USC marching band…


Just to put this out there, so nobody wonders what I’m talking about for the next week and some…..

My next fun medical procedure will be a detailed CT scan of the blob on my adrenal gland, which will happen on Friday, September 1. I had a CT scan in February and the experience wasn’t bad at all, but this one is both with and without contrast…..which means it will involve an IV drip of contrast material.

I’ve had crowns done without anesthetic to avoid a single injection. I haven’t had an IV.

On the flip side, I’ve been having blood draws done despite my phobia by using Xanax. I’m wiped out for the rest of the day and feel hungover the next, but it is doable. I’m pondering whether an IV merits one or two Xanax tabs.

It’s going to be the elephant in my room until I am done with it, but I probably won’t remember to mention the background.

So if I blurt out, “Aaarrgggh, they’re going to stab me!!!!” for no apparent reason over the next 10 days, now you’ll know why.

pat frederick

I will pray for a calm demeanor and a swift procedure. If i could take your place i would. As a seamstress and a quilter, I am constantly sticking myself with needles and they are not a big deal to me. I used to donate blood frequently and do not fear any of that.
stay calm!
this too shall pass


Praying for complete healing, Coothie. I am sorry you are having to deal with this.




May the blessing and protection of God follow you into the scanner. May God give you peace and strength when confronting your phobia as well.




God hear our prayer


This sounds like another step forward, even though you may need Xanax. Sending prayers, Good Energy, and Deep Calm to you, and Wisdom to the medical team. You’ve got this!


Get a script for Lidocaine cream. About 50-60 minutes before stabbing time, smear a bunch on the area to be stabbed. When it’s time, look the other way. You’ll thank me.

I go through that every time they “access” [stab] my port.

Piece of cake and no dope hangover.


I seldom actually feel anything — instead, it’s knowing that it’s in there. That’s why I tell phlebotomists to say, “it’s out!” as soon as they’re clear. I start breathing, my eyes focus, the rigidity fades, my teeth unclench, I stop moaning or blathering….it’s like a cartoon character rebuilding itself after an explosion….takes about two minutes.

I don’t know what’s going to happen when it’s sustained, with an IV.

Barb Meier

could you take ear buds and music, then practice thinking about the music?


If you were lying down and knew you had a live rattlesnake sitting on your chest, could you distract yourself with music?

It’s a phobia, which is a neurosis, which is a mental illness less disruptive than a psychosis.

OTOH, I recently had an aide go through a patient questionnaire and busted out laughing when they said, “intravenous drug use?”


“If you were lying down and knew you had a live rattlesnake sitting on your chest, could you distract yourself with music?”


It depends.

Do you have an Indian snake-charmer flute?

This is soothing… 🤣


I can never get past “crowns done without anesthetic.” 😱

I’m pondering whether an IV merits one or two Xanax tabs.

I can’t advise you, of course, but this brings to mind whether you would react strongly to having something sticking into your arm or hand, even though the initial puncture is over. If you would have anxiety knowing it was there, or seeing it there, that might be something to consider.




That’s pirate language, matey 👍😁


“I’ve had crowns done without anesthetic to avoid a single injection. I haven’t had an IV.”


You could have them knock you out with chloroform (or similar) before they do the injection.


“I’m pondering whether an IV merits one or two Xanax tabs.”


You could just look the other direction, and smash your thumb with a hammer while they insert the IV, and you’ll never even notice it 👍


In case these weren’t clear, I’m trying to send humor your way 😁


Never notice the IV, that is.

You’ll notice the hammer smashing your thumb, for sure.

That’s kinda what diverts your attention from the IV… 👍


I was one of the goofballs who was forced to watch the GOP debate. Wifey insisted so she could reference my thoughts on each. I told her it was a pointless exercise, but she insisted, so I gave in. I enjoy watching the enemy destroy themselves at times anyway.

I have never seen a more incompetent bunch of has-beens and wannabes running for POTUS out of the GOP in all of my life. I still do not completely understand why PDT did not go clean break with the MAGA Party unless he felt the GOP needed to be exposed as openly as the Dems already were. The Uniparty was revealed once again in all of its ugliness.

The irony that they all said to enter Mehico to kill the cartels who are poisoning and killing Americans is off the charts. These are the same hypocritical idgits who claim Vlad and Russia are evil for going into Nazihaven to destroy bioweapon labs and the biggest trafficking and money laundering capital of the world. The same idgits that support sending our treasure there under the guise of fighting Russians, which in reality we know is just a massive wealth grab by neocons and globalists at the expense of the blood of millions.

The same idgits that said Pence did the right thing, that claim they know the Constitution, many of whom that went along with Al Gore’s hanging chad charade in FL back in the day. In their roles as Corrupters of State, video evidence and software manipulation election evidence be damned if it supports PDT. We need to defend our democracy from the evils of Trump, we say! Stupid beyond words.

Pence was a boring bully. Rhonda is W-Lite, Vivek is glowing so much from Clown design it hurts the eyes. The rest are not even entertaining doofuses. They each had their soundbites prepared, most of which came from PDT’s past statements and actions.

Only Burgum actually sees the proposed federal law stopping abortion after 15 weeks somewhat correctly. I hate abortion with the heat of a thousand suns. However, the federal government is not granted the right to govern abortion in the Constitution. The SCOTUS has ruled, correctly, that is up to the states. If they want abortion ended up to 15 weeks, sponsor a constitutional amendment to do so and get enough votes. Good luck with that.

Add in what they did not say revealed even bigger idgit issues.

FOX is NBC is CBS is ABC is MSNBC is CNN is… Gone into the rubble of woke and leftist blather. Martha and Bret were their usual presstitutes.

If PDT does not win in 2024 we will continue the slide deeper into Banana Republicville.

pat frederick

thanks for your impressions!


YW 👍


I still do not completely understand why PDT did not go clean break with the MAGA Party unless he felt the GOP needed to be exposed as openly as the Dems already were. The Uniparty was revealed once again in all of its ugliness.”

Trump was calling them RHINOS on the Tucker interview. I thought that was interesting.


Believes he understands that the RINOs need to pull together with MAGA and start acting like a team that serves all the people and not just selected elite.


Great commentary!

On a side note, I agree with you 100% about the abortion issue. We need to keep the federal government the hell out of powers not SPECIFICALLY enumerated in the Constitution. Period.


I could not edit the abortion comment although posters know what I meant, which was abortion “after” 15 weeks.

They gave lip service to the Constitution and then proceeded to tell how they were going to circumvent it. I cannot stand them. Bunch of liars and hypocrites.

FWIW, we just returned from seeing our third grandchild on the ultrasound at 13 weeks. Anybody who says they are OK with abortion up to 15 weeks as most of those idgit politicians on that stage said they supported, will be complicit in the murder of innocent children in my book. Ours was bouncing around in the womb, kicking and having a good time while obviously trying to suck his/her thumb. They need to cut the crap on this fetus and no pain bullshiz. God knows all of us in the womb. That’s the real BIG GUY to be concerned with pleasing.


Also agreed.


We need to keep the federal government the hell out of powers not SPECIFICALLY enumerated in the Constitution. 

This. They want to centralize the police and law enforcement, education, health care decisions, and just about everything else.




The abortion debate ends when a state enacts a law stating that a human being is a person from the moment of conception until death.


BRICS1 on Day 3: New Members, Johannesburg II Declaration of the XV BRICS Summit

BRICS Leaders have reached consensus on the expansion guidelines of admission to BRICS. The following countries will be full members of BRICS with effect from 1 January 2024:

Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

With its expansion, the GDP of BRICS is now 36% of global GDP and 47% of the world’s population.

BRICS Leaders have adopted the Johannesburg II Declaration of the XV BRICS Summit.

Adaptation of the final BRICS declaration was not easy, including on the issue of enlargement, Putin said. (And this uneasiness is what we all sensed!)

con’t reading


P.S. Argentina will not be joining BRICs after all … announced by Sergio Massa, Argentina’s Economy Minister.


Looks like the check might be in the mail… IMF approved 7.5 Billion bribe to keep them in the club? › news › articles › 2023-08-22 › argentina-expects-imf-to-approve-7…
Argentina Expects IMF to Approve $7.5 Billion DisbursementAugust 22, 2023 at 12:01 PM PDT. Argentine Economy Minister Sergio Massa expects the International Monetary Fund to approve a $7.5 billion disbursement on Wednesday as the


Perhaps we should put out a presser… “Multi-National North American based Org The Q-Tree announces it’s intentions of joining BRICS.” Then wait for a bribe. 😁😏🤔😬🙄😮


LOL! I could use some money!


comment lifted from Global South blog:

“This is crazy. My understanding is most of Argentina’s odious debt is held by local Argentinian oligarchs. It is already committed to BRI and visited China with huge delegation recently. China sold it some Yuan for last IMF payment.. in return for?? Local oligarchs must know there is no future with dying gringo-land. 

So if it is true that Argentina really committed to the Yanqui family, it means there is ideological capture, beyond economic interests. This is not about dual-passports and villas in Miami… They are like Eurocrazy Technocrats who joined eugenicist bandwagon and sold out their people’s future. 

But I do not know Argentina or its elites’ profile. What percentage are former German and Italian nazis from WW2? Very grim though if they do not choose BRICS. It means they chose nihilism and deconstruction for such a promising and beautiful people.”


(I really miss the edit feature! )


What exactly happened to it? Last I remember Wolf said we’d be getting an extended grace on edits. Next thing ya know “Slow Down, Your Typing Too Fast”.

And how would Wolf know? He doesn’t do Typos 😆


Some have said that a recent WP upgrade caused this. I don’t know.

Cuppa Covfefe

Wurst Press has a very bad track record with regard to testing their upgrades before pushing them out…

These “errata” (as Intel loves to call them) have occurred before…


Thanks for posting. Been waiting for the SA and UAE confirmation.


Oliver Anthony had a concert in Farmville. His partner on stage has a Mega Trump T shirt on.
Enjoy 🙂


Verse of the Day for Thursday, August 24, 2023

“So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.” 

Matthew 20:16 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!



Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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Thank you for these. Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.



BOOM! TRUMP BREAKS THE INTERNET! More People Watched the Trump-Tucker Interview than Total Voters in the 2020 US Election – Over 170 Million Views and Counting!


Great stuff today, thank you DP

I liked the code monkey article.


And what’s up with JP?
Does he have a death wish or is setting himself up for bait?   :wpds_shock:   :wpds_roll:   :wpds_lol: 


haha exactly , he should worry when he receives a brand new paddle board that he didn’t order !


182 million views. The gaslighting, globalist scumbags must be pooping in their pants.


A few of the Mole links:
The Epoch Times
“COVID Mask Mandates Return”

And, last but not least, this MUST SEE:
Yours Truly: If this is true, it appears that, IMO, the “plans” are underway for mail-in voting, “delayed” voting, or even trying to cancel the upcoming elections.
On top of again re-instating “universal” masking, social distancing, or even “mandated” COVID-19 “vaccinations.” IMO, any “mandated vaccinations” would likely start with healthcare workers.


Will have keep an eye out on the FDA pulling supplements from the market. 🙄🤔🤨


We’ve been warned. >>> Stock Up, Soon.


Apologies for asking ( again )..what company do you buy HCQ and Iverm from ?


If you don’t mind saying


Molly, Lemme get back to ya. Happy to gather some stuff up and post, in awhile. Won’t be a reply. I won’t forget ya. 🙂


thanks. I’m finally going to bite the bullet and buy some but’s high on the one i’m looking at germproof .com


Apologies? WWGOWGA. IF I git that right. One Team. One Fight. 🙂


Awesome. I caught the other one too. Sent it to myself in email so I can’t lose it.
It’s a war and staying alive is for the win and future  🇺🇲 


Will post this a couple times for visibility.

—- LONG post follows.

There is ONE site for IVM that was posted a couple months ago. Really good (low) prices, IIRC. I can NOT find the link. Perhaps another QTreeper has it, will see it missing from this post, and share with us. 


Potpourri of sites to purchase Ivermectin, HCQ…and lots of stuff folks MAY be interested in. 

I do NOT endorse any. But have used a couple and will note that. QTreepers have posted success with these guys. IVM only, I think. Straight forward deal. Quick shipping. Delivered within a week. 

FenBen. I have used these guys. Straight forward. Delivery less than one week. Excellent customer service.

I plan give these guys My Next Order.

Seems quite reasonable. Presently reviewing my Covid Battle Kit. I will prolly will order within days. 

Through FLCCC ( I did purchase IVM from seven cells ( . EXPENSIVE, but they were FAST.  Had IVM in my hands in ~seven days. seems Much Lower price and delivery equally quick.

Via IndiaMart I have purchased IVM, HCQ and Azithromycin from
–         It’s much like any online purchase, but different. I had stated what I wanted, clearly. For Example 200 IVM, 50 HCQ and 20 Azithromycin. (Made that up for example.) 
–         From their web site you’ll see the meds perhaps come in strips of 10, 10 strips to a box. Generally, I tried to order by box. 
–         As I gave them my cell, they actually called me the three times I purchased from them. VERY heavy Indian accent, as one might expect. 
–         I scheduled my online query to them, to be ~7AM Mumbai time. I wanted this in front of them EARLY in their day to get attention. 
–         They Are ALL Business. By my experience, HONEST.
–         Payment, I’ll leave alone. Our “minders” may be watching. 
–         Shipment was quick. Same or next day, WITH IndiaPost tracking number. Same idea as USPS, FedEx, UPS tracking.
–         First two shipments thirteen or fourteen days. Second ~eighteen days. The slow point seems to be working through Customs.
–         Excellent packaging. 
–         Caution. IIRC, FG&C said he order through these guys and US Customs seized his stuff. Total Loss for FG&C. No guarantees. I DID use These guys twice after FG&C lost his stuff, money. 
–         Other than working DIRECTLY with these guys, do NOT mention meds, IVM, HCQ… Discretion, verbal and written, necessary.


  :wpds_arrow:  FLCCC has suggested meds and dose for prevention, treatment…yada, yada. 

  :wpds_arrow:  Suggest stock up on vitamins, supplements…

  :wpds_arrow:  Have no idea how real PlanDemic 2.0 will be. 

  • If they have engineered a truly dangerous Covid, or repeat of sorts. 

  :wpds_arrow:  I Do NOT Trust The Bastards AND Am Planning Accordingly.

Hope some of the above helps.


Molly, please see Linda’s post near the end of this daily. Her FenBen source is where I’d go.

Not the FenBen source I posted.


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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Wow what a load of utter nonsense.

I don’t even know where to begin.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. That person probably prefers the “slug” as a unit of measure, for instance…

It is SO much easier in the metric system, and conversions between metric and US measurements are easily available (just type into google, etc.).

Shows how backwards US education has become.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm. Speaking of slugs (and thugs), maybe they could rename that unit to ChrisChristie 😆


“It is SO much easier in the metric system, and conversions between metric and US measurements are easily available (just type into google, etc.).”


That’s like a right-handed person telling a left-handed person it’s SO much easier to write with your right hand.

It’s certainly not easier for many people who grew up using the ‘imperial’ system to use the metric system.

For example, I have no internal concept of how long a meter is. It’s some vague distance between 3 feet and 4 feet (I think). It’s an amorphous measurement of ambiguity, void of meaning (to me).

OTOH, a ‘yard’ or 3 feet is something with which I am of course very familiar.

I have a good estimation of how much a cup is, or a pint, or a half gallon, or a gallon, because I have used liquids in these measurements my entire life.

I have no idea how much a ‘liter’ is. I do have a concept of how much 2 liters is, thanks to plastic soft-drink bottles.

Indeed conversion is possible, and just as convenient as translating a foreign language using Google translate.

I can do it, and I do, but I sure don’t want to have to do it every time I need to know a measurement!

Cuppa Covfefe

Can you multiply and divide by tens?

Then there you go…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That works within the system, and doesn’t address Scott’s gripe (to be fair). Scott is bitching that he has no feel for it, in essence.

Cuppa Covfefe

It doesn’t take long… I moved here in the early 1980s and got used to it pretty quickly. Maybe out of necessity, but it’s simpler, and easier to do in your head…

Having a car (shipped over) with a US speedometer/odometer made life REALLY interesting… but I was too cheap to replace them, partially because of the mountain of paperwork that would have required.

Oh, and the eye-watering expense to get it done…..

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

On my most recent trip to Europe my only hiccup was not realizing beverages are labeled in centiliters, not milliliters (which is what the US puts in the parentheses). I was looking at a drink on a menu and it said 75 cl and I was annoyed at how cheeseparingly small the serving was…then I realized it was quite substantial.

Cuppa Covfefe

Should have gone to the UK, where the pint and gallon are larger 🙂 (and the beer is usually good, albeit WARM!!!)….

CAMRA… CAMpaign for Real Ale…


Yes, I know.

A centimeter is 1/100th of a meter (I think).

The problem is, I don’t know how much a centimeter or a meter is, so it’s meaningless as a conceptual unit.

For numbers on a page I can see how it could be useful. For having an idea, in my mind, about how much an inch is (as opposed to a centimeter), or how much a foot or a yard, or a gallon, or a pound, the metric equivalent literally has no meaning to me, besides linguistic.

I don’t think in metric.

I think in the old system.

Like a language.

The old system is my native language.

I don’t think in a foreign language, I have to convert everything, which is a needless hassle.

If I had a good reason to think in metric, with enough time and effort, I’m sure I could.

It would still be like a second language though, and not my first language.

And I don’t have any need learn.

The old system works just fine for every day life.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A liter is a bit more than a quart (about 5 percent more). So for the purposes of getting a vague feel for it, think of a liter as a quart.

A kilogram is a bit more than two pounds (about 10 percent more).

A meter is almost exactly 40 inches, three meters is ten feet. It’s four inches more than a yard. So just think of it as a slightly big yard.

Eight kilometers is five miles (close enough for government work). So 40 kph is …. (divide by eight, multiply by 5) 25 mph.

Cuppa Covfefe

Don’t forget imperial versus US measurements, too 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Scott is a yankee, I assumed US.

Though many Brits are blissfully unaware of the difference and assume our pints are the same as theirs.


Next, you’ll maintain that “a pint’s a pound, the world around” isn’t true.

Cuppa Covfefe


The earth is flat, how can one say “the world around”….. 🙂

Sad to think the lads and lassies of today cannot grasp 3/6 (three shillings, sixpence) or what a guinea is (21 shillings).

The New Pence were supposed to carry on the old coin shapes (albeit decimalised) but don’t really do well at that. And the poor farthing completely disappeared, despite its size…

I have bags and bags of the old European currencies, as well as the pre-decimal UK currencies. Fascinating to see some of them, like the scandinavian ones with holes in them, or the French one which was the model for the Euro, having a two-part structure…


“Sad to think the lads and lassies of today cannot grasp 3/6 (three shillings, sixpence) or what a guinea is (21 shillings).”


There are many things in life that we have knowledge of on a need to know basis.

Living in America, shillings and guineas are examples of things I don’t need to know… 😁


I thought the aluminum Italian lira coins were cool — they had about as much metal value as a used beer pull-tab.

Cuppa Covfefe

I have some from Austria from the 1980s… same thing. I thought it was toy money, or counterfeit…

I liked the variety. And that the borders were kept, not like now 😡

And that “Change Agents” worked at Bureaux du Change near the borders, and not playing psychological games at various companies 🙂

When I was driving to my various sites in Europe, I had the ashtray full of the different coins I might need, for instance on the toll roads or for food, etc.

The only thing the Euro has done is make everything more expensive. And now those idiots Habeck and von der Liar are making things even MORE expensive…


It’s just not my culture 😂

Cuppa Covfefe

Neither is yogurt (“Trust the Farm, Cuke”)…

(Darth Tater, Cuke Skywalker, ObiWan Cannoli, etc.)….

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Fundamentally, his complaint is, “I ain’t used to it.”

Cuppa Covfefe

Old dog, meet new tricks…

Although I’m probably a much older dog… (tribbles kibbles and bits…)…. I never had any problem going back and forth between KmH and Mph… 1.6 or 5/8… or 9/5 C + 32…

I had a Chemistry professor who would make us work (rigorously) problems first with the units (to make sure we weren’t making “ballpark estimate” mistakes), and then plugging in the numbers. Sort of a BS detector to be sure things weren’t really wrong…

Funny thing was, one of the fellows in the class was blind, and had one of the very first “talking” calculators. It must have been hideously expensive. Anyway, after one of these dog-and-ponys about unit expansion and verification, we had a pop quiz.

The blind fellow’s calculator was a voluble friend… if he plugged in the right numbers 😀

The next exam he did out in the hall 🙂

The thing is, almost all countries in the world use metric. It reminds me of a headline I read in 1980 when I was over in England at a chamber music workshop and there was a HUGE fog bank over the English Channel. The headline read: “Thick fog over Channel; rest of world cut off”…

Yet another “phobe”, in this case, Xenophobia… I rather expect even a cheap and cheerful programmable calculator (are there any? 🙂 ) could be set up with a bunch of the most common conversions…..

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I am pretty sure there are calculators out there like that. Also slide rules!

I know there are smartphone unit converter apps.


“I never had any problem going back and forth between KmH and Mph… 1.6 or 5/8… or 9/5 C + 32…”


I drive mostly by feel.

If I feel like I’m going to slow, I speed up. That happens a lot, seems like all the time.

If I ever felt like I was going too fast, I would slow down. That doesn’t really happen in practice though, unless I’m ready to stop.

But if it ever does happen, at least I have a plan 👍😁

Cuppa Covfefe

You’d LOVE driving in Italy then… just be sure to stay on the sidewalk 😀


True, but even if I was, it can never be my native language.

Some people are born into a family where parents speak more than one language, and the children grow up with two (or more) native languages.

I was born into a family that only had one native language.

That language is the English language, and the language for measurements was likewise the English system of measurement.

And not even most of the English system of measurement, or even half of it, just the parts that applied to daily life.

I didn’t use hand, span, digit, line, barleycorn, saftment, palm, link, cubit, fathom, rod, nail, chain or league.

I was able to get by just fine with only inch, foot, yard and mile.

Fathom and league come in handy whenever I’m reading Jules Verne (twenty thousand leagues is a LOT!).

Span, cubit and rod are occasionally helpful when reading the King James Bible 👍😁


OMG – the thing that really saved me in OCS was the realization that metrics were based on “10” not “12.” So, when having to do math very quickly in your head [as if life depends on it] how would you like to proceed?

Cuppa Covfefe

Shades of the Mars Lander from a while back…

One thing I like about metric is I can go from capacity measurements (e.g. liters of storage space in a fridge/freezer) and instantly convert that to “solid” measurement, in cubic meters or cubic centimeters (or cubic decimeters for the show offs 😀 )… Archimedes would be proud 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes, there’s no arbitrary distinction between wet and dry measure. And since the kilogram was originally based on the weight of a liter of water, food (mostly water) won’t be too far off from a kilo per liter.

And BIG amounts can go straight to cubic meters, at 1000 liters each. Very, very handy.

There ARE patterns and tidy things in the English system but you have to dig for them and they almost never involve ten. (Two, often, but rarely ten.)


And yet it resonates so well 😂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

So does a loud fart in the right shaped room.

Cuppa Covfefe

Makes me, erm, see Klipschorns in a new light…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ll take your word for it, I’m into B&Ws (which are now branded as “Bowers and Wilkins” probably because “bee and dubya” sounds too much like “bee em dubya” i.e., cars with defective/moribund turn signals.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. The supposedly eternal LED tail/etc. lights that are more infernal than eternal… and TPTB won’t let you replace the LEDs yourself 😡 😡 😡 😡

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I lucked into a pair of 808s for 1800 bucks. I almost tore my pants getting the wallet out.

Cuppa Covfefe

Oh, hush! 🙂

Over here, they sell speakers based on their power input/output. It’s very hard to do comparisons based on frequency response/sensitivity… grrrr…. but then, that lets them sell TONS of crappy speakers to the sheeple…

Cuppa Covfefe

Also makes me think of the Rodriguez cartoon where a speaker salesman was being quizzed (actually, berated) by St. Peter for making outrageous claims for speakers. One of the funniest I’ve ever seen, next to the one where there were two reporters side by side and the one had a degausser held over the others portapack… 🙂 (rendering it useless 😀 )…..


I defer to your experience 😁


I was moving too fast and posted above meme about metric system by mistake. I could not edit it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Wasn’t dumping on you, but rather the meme itself.


fk, mis-posted and can’t edit: this is the one:

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Will be useful in the meme wars if Mandates kick in again. Thanks!




Masks – Just Say NO.

Social distancing – Just Say NO.

Injections – Just Say NO.


^^^ Great video by this gal. Less than two minutes.


with regard to influx of refugees/illegal immigrants … a view from across the pond posted at Andrei’s blog this a.m.


“Its not only London and UK that is being flooded by refugees and illegal migrants to the point that the native British people are on the verge of being a minority. This is a fact in most European countries and it is an official policy of EU to accept every year hundreds of thousands (or even millions) of asylum seekers / illegal migrants / refugees etc and then to resettle them with quotas in all member states. Hungary and Poland are against the quotas of mandatory resettlement and are facing the freezing of EU funding.

There is a lucrative multibillion industry with (illegal and legal) migration. Lawyers, NGOs, government officials, politicians, businessmen and criminals are all involved in this.

As the vast majority of these people are unskilled, the economic benefits of mass illegal migration are negative. There are only limited jobs that these people could do. Not only crime has risen but there are many social and cultural problems caused by the importation of millions of illegal migrants.

The smuggling of illegal migrants is similar to the drug trade. Potential migrants pay thousands of euros to traffickers and big money are being paid to border guards and police officers. Everyday thousands of illegal migrants travel from Turkey to Greek border without any control – meanwhile numerous ships / boats full with people arrive to Italy via Libya and North Africa.

Recently, lots of Greek police officers were arrested as they were bribed by smugglers and they are turning the blind eye to all the illegal migrants who attempt to enter. Also, thousands of passports are being stolen and counterfeited and offered to illegal migrants for a hefty sum. Shady NGOs funded by EU are administrating the migrant flows and EU benefits are being paid to those refugees / illegal migrants.

But it is not only illegal migration, legal migration is also being used by the elites and business interests in the Western countries. It is a way to keep wages down as they artificially increase the supply of labor.

If a country has 10,000 IT workers and there is a deficit of IT workers, the wages will tend to increase. But if this country imports around 5,000 migrant IT workers, what will happen? The wages will stagnate or even decline. Migration is a tool to keep wages down and give more power to employers.

Countries like Canada and Australia use mass legal migration to keep wages down, perpetuate the the real estate bubble and make lots of money for many corrupt stakeholders (banks, universities, multinational companies, migration lawyers, real estate companies etc).

The politicians are also happy as the bogus GDP metric seems to be increasing as the population is increasing.

The more people they bring, the higher the population, and the higher the GDP growth rate and overall GDP.”



All of the points made above are applicable to our plight here in USA … and elsewhere …

The Cabal creates the corporation as ‘a legal person’ … resulting in ‘corporate welfare’ …

resulting in serfdom of the people.

‘Serfdom’ is the goal of Mr. Global … going back centuries … (depopulation being top priority … via bioweapons and warfare, with brother against brother, as seen in Ukraine and possibly to come soon with the various tribes of Africa, whose nation lines were drawn by the ‘West’ to accommodate division of same tribes… and the current efforts here in USA to bring about civil war.)

Cuppa Covfefe