Dear KMAG: 20191201 Open Topic

This 1st Sanctuary Sunday of Advent Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

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Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“

AND WHAT TIME IS IT?  TIME TO….DRAIN THE SWAMP!!! 

Our movement is about replacing a failed and CORRUPT political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People. ~ Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, you can find something here that will build you up a little . . . give you a smile . . . and add some joy, much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

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1st Sunday of Advent ~ Advent Faith & Hope

Faith and hope are related. “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (Hebrews 11:1) And yet, faith and hope are different attributes. “And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.” (1 Corinthians 13:13)

During Advent, we look back at Christ’s 1st coming in celebration, while at the same time we look forward in anticipation of His 2nd coming when He returns for His people.

The Faith generated by the events of the past . . .

~ Advent Faith ~

Faith, as defined in dictionaries, is the belief in something for which there is not complete evidence, so that it can’t be accepted as an indisputable fact. For us Christians, “faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” (Hebrews 11:1) Simply put, our faith is trusting in something we cannot explicitly prove.

As Christians, we have faith in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and in God’s Word, the Bible. Our faith is not grounded in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. “And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.” ( 1 Corinthians 2:4-5 )

Advent faith is strong because it looks back at what God, through His prophets, said would happen with respect to the first coming of the Messiah, and finds that those events did happen.  The Old Testament scriptures abound with the God-breathed words of the prophets concerning the Messiah that would come. Those Old Testament promises were fully realized in the 1st coming of Christ Jesus, the Messiah, which we celebrate at Christmas.


. . . leads to a confident Hope for the future.

~ Advent Hope ~

Hope, as it is usually defined, is akin to wishful thinking, a desire that something we would like to happen will actually happen. But hope, as used in the Bible, is more than just a wish. There’s a confident and certain expectation that what we desire will, indeed, take place.  This type of hope needs a much stronger foundation than that of wishful thinking . . . something like faith that is firmly rooted in the events of the past.

We look forward with a confident hope and expectation, a peaceful assurance built on the strong faith of the fulfillment of the prophesies of Jesus’ first coming, to the return of Jesus, as prophesized in both the Old and New Testaments.

Jesus said He is coming again. “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.” (John 14:3). “But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep . . . For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.” (1 Corinthians 15:20,22)

What a wonderful time this will be: “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.” (Revelation 21:3-4)

Jesus’ return is our blessed hope. “. . . we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ . . .” (Titus 2:12-13)

Jesus loved us enough to offer Himself as a sacrifice to God, then defeated death by His resurrection from the dead, giving us a confident, reassuring expectation that we, too, will one day rise from our graves to live a never ending life with Him in the presence of God!

My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness;
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus’ name.
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.


By faith, we trust Jesus’ words, and that leads to the hope that we will one day be with Him forever.

Come, O Lord!


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ozzytrumpster

U.S. Ambassador to Germany says…
@RichardGrennell: “Terrible timing – why fund the Iranian regime while its killing the Iranian people and shutting off the internet? You should be standing for human rights not funding the abusers.
>@NordrumLars: ‘Today 🇳🇴 🇸🇪 🇩🇰 🇫🇮 🇧🇪 🇳🇱 announced that we are joining INSTEX together with the #E3 🇬🇧 🇫🇷 🇩🇪 to facilitate trade with 🇮🇷 #Iran and help preserve the #JCPOA.'”
#Iran #Norway

phoenixrising37

Thank goodness for Ric Grennell !

ozzytrumpster

Wictor on Norwegians
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
Thread
Three reasons why Norway insists on propping up the Iranian mullahs.
https://twitter.com/NordrumLars/status/1200373049247379456
Lars Nordrum on Twitter
Twitter
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
One, Norwegians hate Jews.
The original Norwegian constitution prohibited Jews from entering the country.
In 1890, Norway began a movement to outlaw kosher food preparation.
Norway banned it in 1929, beating even the Nazis.
In World War II, more Norwegians joined the Nazis than joined the Allies.
The last Nazis to die in combat were Norwegians.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
When the Soviets attacked Berlin, the last fighting was in the New Reich Chancellory.
The Russians had to fight the Norwegians room to room, losing HUNDREDS of men.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
Norwegians in the Waffen SS.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
So deep in their heart of hearts, Norwegians want Iran to wipe Israel off the map.
The second reason Norway embraces Iran is to differentiate itself from Trump.
Democrats are the same.
Trump came against against MS-13, so the Democrats began supporting a murderous Salvadoran gang that chops people up with machetes.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
Norway will support the mullahs, but after the mullahs fall, Norway will NOT support the replacement government.
Watch it happen.
And the third reason Norway supports the mullahs is money.
Europeans are FAR MORE money obsessed than Americans.
Norway will do business with anybody except Israel, but Norway SECRETLY does business with Israel.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
SURPRISE!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/sep/24/norway-ethical-oil-environment-arms
Norway’s dirty little secrets | Mark Curtis
http://www.theguardian.com
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
“A lack of controls in Oslo have allowed high explosives sold to the US to be re-exported to Israel for use in the occupied territories.”
It’s WAY MORE than explosives.
But I lived in Norway, so I know Norwegians.
It’s the only culture that I hated.
Every Norwegian was a massive hypocrite. They praised their nanny state AND broke every law.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
There was a black market for everything. Norwegians spent all their time figuring out how to defy the government that they claimed to love.
They paid only lip service to their stated values.
And every Norwegian I met was a dreary nag.
I was a teenager, but adults insisted on lecturing me about Ronald Reagan.
ALL THE TIME.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
The only thing keeping Norway intact is oil.
It’s such a dysfunctional culture that an enormous amount of money has to spent papering over all the failure.
And the ALCOHOLISM!
It was universal.
My boss at the shore-support base where I worked had a constant hacking cough from the filterless rolled cigarettes he smoked.
He was 36, but he was already ruined from booze and cigarettes.
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Thomas Wictor
@ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
I hated Norway, and Norwegians hated me.
But not as much as they hate Jews.
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Teagan

Found the Thomas Wicker comments very interesting, indeed!
First, I think Norway is one of the most beautiful spots in earth…I’ve traveled the entire length of the ffords, inland through the countless tunnels by train and much of the greater Oslo area. I would dearly like to return…but, it’s horrendously expensive.
HOWEVER, we have close friends who spent a great deal of time there during a 3-year contract …male was President of an international Norwegian-own shipping company, basically brought in as a problem-solver to save the business.
Even though he had a free apartment in Bergen, he chose to live in London and commuted. They disliked the Norwegian people that much!…for basically the same reasons Wicker started. They would attend social functions as part of his duties as the company President …and they would be lectured about how awful America was, the American government and their leaders etc. etc.
I was unaware of the Jewish hatred, though, because that was quite a different history we were told about the WWII resistance…the ghost troopers dressed in white on skis, the far northern town moving into a huge cave for months to hide and send out enemy movement signals, etc.
Thanks for sharing that, Ozzy.

Dora

If we’ve reached the point of no return, shut up about it already!

phoenixrising37

Love your comment Dora !

Gail Combs

U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres …warns that “the point of no return is no longer over the horizon.”
GEE, Yeah think he noticed the sun is entering a GRAND Solar Minimum??? Or that we are at the end of the Holocene (at least the end of the warm phase??)
“Seven of the last eight post-MPT interglacials have each lasted about half a precession cycle. The precession cycle itself varies between 19 and 23kyrs and we are at the 23kyr part of that cycle now, making 11,500 half. As of 2014 the Holocene is exactly 11,717 years old (based on the end of the Younger Dryas cold interval). Or pretty much about half a precession cycle.” — William McClenney, geologist The end of the Holocene? (first published as three separate articles at WUWT.)
Also do not miss ralfellis comment at the end and his links to his articles at Warwick Hughes site.
*** Albedo regulation of Ice Ages, with no CO2 feedbacks ***
The one thing I am sure of is that the earth is NOT going to enter a long period of warming unless our Cosmic Neighborhood changes. Ice Age??? All bets are off and the change can be ‘dramatically FAST’ as in decades not centuries.
McClenney’s article is really long so here are the highlights:
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The change from Ice Age Cold to warm was ONE YEAR!!!
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“In the GISP2 science trench, the tray holding the section of core rolled down the assembly line and then it was Alley’s turn at the ice. “It slides across in front of me and I’m trying to identify years: ‘That’s a year, that’s a year and that’s a year, and – woops, that one’s only half as thick.’ And it’s sitting there just looking at you. And there’s a huge change in the appearance of the ice, it goes from being clear to being not clear, having a lot of dust.”

” ….it was literally riveting for all of us geologists fascinated by the Quaternary. So we get our first trap-speed: climate can switch abruptly from its cold to its warm state in just one year….
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The ending of the last interglacial, the Eemian, occurred in less than two decades.
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” ….Which brings us to the point of this essay, what were the end extreme interglacials like? Although MIS-19 may not satisfy everyone as being an extreme interglacial, it did occur at an eccentricity minimum just like MIS-11 was and MIS-1 [Holocene] presently is. So in terms of trying to comprehend what might be the end extreme interglacial natural climate noise it has “standing”….
Sirocko and Seelos, 2005, “A late Eemian aridity pulse in central Europe during the last glacial inception”, nature, vol. 436, 11 August 2005, doi:10.1038/nature03905, pp 833-836, make this a far more interesting question:…. “

“Investigating the processes that led to the end of the last interglacial period is relevant for understanding how our ongoing interglacial will end, which has been a matter of much debate…..”
“The onset of the LEAP occurred within less than two decades, demonstrating the existence of a sharp threshold, which must be near 416 Wm2, which is the 65oN July insolation for 118 kyr BP (ref. 9). This value is only slightly below today’s value of 428 Wm2. Insolation will remain at this level slightly above the [glacial] inception for the next 4,000 years before it then increases again.”

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Will the Holocene end soon?
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“Lisiecki and Raymo (2005) state:”

“Recent research has focused on MIS 11 as a possible analog for the present interglacial [e.g., Loutre and Berger, 2003; EPICA community members, 2004] because both occur during times of low eccentricity. The LR04 age model establishes that MIS 11 spans two precession cycles, with 18O values below 3.6o/oo for 20 kyr, from 398-418 ka. In comparison, stages 9 and 5 remained below 3.6o/oo for 13 and 12 kyr, respectively, and the Holocene interglacial has lasted 11 kyr so far. In the LR04 age model, the average LSR of 29 sites is the same from 398-418 ka as from 250-650 ka; consequently, stage 11 is unlikely to be artificially stretched.
However, the June 21 insolation minimum at 65N during MIS 11 is only 489 W/m2, much less pronounced than the present minimum of 474 W/m2. In addition, current insolation values are not predicted to return to the high values of late MIS 11 for another 65 kyr. We propose that this effectively precludes a ‘double precession-cycle’ interglacial [e.g., Raymo, 1997] in the Holocene without human influence.”

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I extracted the 21 June solar insolation @ 65◦ N for several glacial inceptions from the paper Can we predict the duration of an interglacial?

NOW (Modern Warm Period) 479 W m−2
MIS 7e – insolation = 463 W m−2,
MIS 11c – insolation = 466 W m−2,
MIS 13a – insolation = 500 W m−2,
MIS 15a – insolation = 480 W m−2,
MIS 17 – insolation = 477 W m−2,

So the Holocene is within the window of solar insolation @ 65◦ N when glacial-inception occurred during other interglacials.

Deplorable Patriot

I’ve seen this movie before. It was titled “Highlander II” and didn’t end well for McCloud.

phoenixrising37

phoenixrising37

https://www.whitehouse.gov/adventcalendar/

phoenixrising37
Gail Combs

So what is the MEK Camp that was destroyed?
Mojahedin Khalq (MEK) terrorist training camp in Albania impacts whole Balkan region

Residents of Tirana no doubt welcomed news that members of the terrorist Mojahedin Khalq organisation (MEK) have moved out of the capital to a closed camp in Manëz, Durres a few kilometers from Tirana. Citizens had been disturbed by the bizarre, anti-social behaviour of the group’s members and puzzled by their lifestyle….
The agreement brokered between Sali Berisha’s government and the Obama Administration in 2013 to bring the MEK there included the establishment of an Institute for De-Radicalisation which would have made sure the 3000 radicalized MEK fighters were rehabilitated safely back into normal society.
This did not happen.
There is, therefore, no American funded Institute to de-radicalise incoming Daesh members. Instead, the MEK locked down on its control over its own members and has further managed to groom Albanian politicians, officials and mafia heads into cooperating with and supporting them. This latest move to a new base is part of the MEK’s overall survival strategy – hold on to members and promote the MEK’s brand as instigators of regime change against Iran.The building of a new base was first exposed when investigative journalist Gjergji Thanasi….
The camp has a small-arms firing range, reinforced concrete armoury, 3.5-meter-high walls with lookout turrets to guard the entrance. The entrance is guarded by MEK personnel. Albanian authorities have no jurisdiction inside the camp. It is a de facto extra-judicial enclave….

So another very ‘useful’ earthquake…..

phoenixrising37

you are a treasure Gail… an absolute Gem !

Harry Lime

Hat tip to Clarice Feldman at American Thinker for her article Waiting For Horowitz which linked me to this article by Yaacov Aplebaum.
A lot of this we know…but, WOW…this is impressive…I’ve never seen it quite laid out like this before. There are a lot of names here that I haven’t heard much about as well.
From the introductory paragraphs…
“Considering all of the dossier’s unusual aspects, I decided to take a little time and do a deeper dive into its structure and content. In this post, I’ll demonstrate how by using readily available OSINT tools and techniques, video analytics, and writing style analysis, we can pinpoint the likely sources, methods, and the individuals involved in the creation and distribution of this document.”
The Mechanics of Deception
Yaacov Aplebaum
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/

Harry Lime

Yaacov Apelbaum’s site The Illustrated Primer has some really fascinating articles in the same style as the one posted above. They’re not all as long as The Mechanics of Deception. I just bookmarked it to dig into his archives.

Gail Combs

Yaacov Aplebaum’s article, The Mechanics of Deception is a LONG and fasinating read. I am going to have to digest it in chunks.
Interesting to see the Stephan Halper – Glen Simpson connection. It really is a small group of inter-connected people at the heart of it.

Harry Lime

Yeah…I’m still working my way through it…I’m taking my time so that I can properly digest it all.

Harry Lime

His post for September 2019 is equally fascinating: How to Finance Your Congressional Campaign With Arms Sales
Check out out facial recognition software can pick out the Ukrainian arms dealer in a crowd of 500K people.
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2019/09/

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Thread…Halper was a highly paid spy.

wolfmoon1776

Good stuff!!!

wolfmoon1776

AMEN!!!

Dora

Why would they do something like this? What are they trying to prove?
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Amazon sparks outrage after selling Holocaust-themed Christmas ornaments
At least 1.1 million people were killed in Auschwitz
https://www.theblaze.com/news/amazon_holocaust_christmas_ornaments

Gail Combs

“Why would they do something like this? “
Amazon is sowing Division and Chaos. As Q keeps telling us divided we are weak and controllable. They HAVE TO keep us fighting each other. They have to keep us focused elsewhere.
THINK!
What does
* Omar in a Catholic Church
* Drag Queens flashing kiddies in libraries
* Transgender boys in girls locker rooms
* Teaching masturbation to grade schoolers
* 9th month abortion + infanticide
* Attacks on the 2nd Amendment
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All have in common?
They are ALL outrageous acts designed to deflect attention from what is happening in the District of Criminals!
I kept wondering what the heck the left was up to until I just realized it is division and deflection to get us to expend energy in useless directions. If we DESTROY the DemonRat party and the Globalist Elite, the problems listed above all disappear.

singingsoul1

Dora thank you!
Amazon is evil. I liked your post that you brought this to our attention.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

ForGodandCountry

Thank you, Gov. Perry, for your distinguished service both to the great Lone Star State as well as the country as a whole. Please consider coming back to your previous job as Governor after Gov. Abbott leaves office (hopefully for 2 terms in the WH).

wolfmoon1776

I have a thread up to THANK RICK PERRY! Please go say THANK YOU!!! 😀
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/12/01/god-bless-rick-perry-promises-made-promises-kept/

ForGodandCountry

Re: aircraft fuels….a bit more on the topic…
There are two kinds of aircraft engines.
Piston engines
Turbine engines
All piston engine aircraft run on 100LL av gas.
All turbine engines run on kerosene.
There are three (3j kinds of powered aircraft:
1. Most propeller-driven planes are also known as “piston engine” aircraft which use a motor similar to a gas-powered car. These include all propellor aircraft through WWII, including all military planes like the P-51 Mustang (shown here) and B-17 Flying Fortress.comment image
2. Turbine (ie. “jet”) driven planes use a turbine engine for power. All military jet aircraft use this type of engine although there are variants, such as high-bypass turbofan engines vs. pure jet engines. Large commercial jets (ex: 737, 777, Airbus, etc) use high-bypass turbofan engines while fighter planes like the F-15 Eagle (shown here) use pure turbine engines.comment image
3. Turboprop aircraft use turbine engines to turn the plane’s propellers rather than a piston engine. Examples of turboprop aircraft are Beech Kingair as well as modern propellor driven military aircraft like the extremely popular C-130 Hercules (shown here).comment image
Why are there different types of aircraft engines?
A: Because planes are tools, and like tools they are used for different purposes. Just as there are different types of hammers and screw drivers, there are different types of aircraft.
Why do turbine (ie. jet) engines use kerosene rather than plain gasoline for fuel?
A: Four (4) main reasons.
Lower Freezing Point
Kerosene has a lowering freezing point than gasoline, making it naturally protected against freezing in the bone-chilling temperatures of high altitudes where jets fly. Kerosene itself is actually a mixture of petroleum-based hydrocarbons and other compounds. Therefore, the precise freezing point of kerosene fuel varies. But regardless, it takes cooler temperatures for kerosene to freeze than it does for gasoline to freeze.
Higher Flash Point
In addition to a lower freezing point, kerosene has a higher flash point than gasoline. Flash point refers to the temperature at which a combustible chemical or substance ignites and turns to vapor. With its higher flash point, kerosene offers higher octane ratings to achieve greater power and efficiency when compared to its gasoline counterpart. In fact, this is the main reason kerosene fuel is used in jet engines. For decades, airplanes originally used gasoline. The need for higher-octane fuel, however, prompted aviation experts to experiment with alternative types of fuel, thus paving the way for kerosene. Today, kerosene is now the most common type of fuel used commercial aircraft.
Lower Viscosity
Kerosene has a lower viscosity rating during flight operation than gasoline, meaning it’s more watery and not as thick or “gummy” as gasoline. This is important because highly viscous fuels can clog up internal channels in an airplane’s engine. But since kerosene has a lower freezing point than gasoline, it remains more watery and less viscous than gasoline during flights. Even at high altitudes with naturally cold temperatures, kerosene has minimal viscosity, allowing it to easily travel through the jet engine and connected components.
Lower Cost
Considering that large commercial airplanes like the 747 burn roughly 1 gallon of fuel per minute, it’s important for airlines to consider the cost of fuel. The good news is that kerosene is significantly cheaper than gasoline. In some cases, kerosene may cost less than half the price of gasoline. Along with its lower freezing point, higher flash point and lower viscosity, this is one more reason why kerosene has become the preferred type of fuel in the commercial aviation industry.
So…..now you know.
Remember that it is next to impossible to fill a piston engine aircraft with jet fuel because of the Hoover nozzle used with jet fuel (kerosene) in combination of the Hoover restrictor ring (installed on all piston engine planes) and it should go without saying that neither Epstein nor his doctor killed themselves.

wolfmoon1776

AMEN. This was a DELIBERATE ACT. It may look like an “accident”, but the fact is that the safety mechanism was DELIBERATELY DEFEATED. There is simply no way around that.
This may actually be the case I was waiting for. HOW could a person be convinced to put the WRONG fuel in the tank?
I’m kinda curious now. I’m wondering if this is something people have gotten away with before. I mean, checking the fuel type in the residue probably doesn’t happen if SOME OTHER EXPLANATION pops up before it.

wheatietoo

I’m wondering how the aircraft was able to take off and fly, at all, with the wrong fuel in it’s tank.

Gail Combs

There would be residual ‘good fuel’ in the engine and the fuel lines leading to the engine just as in the Hoover accident.
FG&C explained that on the earlier page.

wheatietoo

Thanks, Gail.
The thing is…Hoover’s plane crashed on take off.
The Doctor’s plane flew for 3.6 miles after take off, then crashed.
While it makes sense that a plane’s fuel system would still have some of the ‘good’ fuel in the lines for a while…
Most planes sit there and warm up for a bit…then taxi out on the runway…then take off.
Seems like most of the ‘good’ fuel would be used up by then.

ForGodandCountry

Depends on the plane….which is another way of saying it depends on the make/model of the engine(s).
Another variable is the pilot and still another Is the use of the plane. For example, a good pilot will perform a thorough engine check prior to a 1st flight of the day, but on subsequent flights in the same day with the same pilot it will not need the same thorough pre-flight check.
What I don’t know is the plane Epstein’s doctor was flying.

ForGodandCountry

Also, was the flight that crashed the plane’s first flight of the day or a subsequent (ie. 2nd or 3rd) flight of the day?

wheatietoo

The article said it was a Piper Aerostar 602P.

para59r

I was going to ask when you had posted earlier but your answer seemed sufficient. Asks now however, perhaps its something or not.
Is the fuel the plane normally used more heavy than the bad fuel it received? In other words a period of time after filling I imagine some settling might occur if such is so. In which case if the good fuel settled to the bottom it might explain why the plane was able to fly as long as it did before the bad fuel got to the engine.

ForGodandCountry

Exactly right.
Aircraft engine are very powerful, naturally. They produce enough thrust at idle to move the plane when the brakes are released, and certainly enough to keep it moving once the plane is taxiing.
Ie. it takes very little fuel to start them and get out to the runway.

kalbokalbs

Admittedly I have not read the article on the AC that had the wrong fuel in it.
How could it take off and fly. Dunno, not an aviation guy. BUT, a few thoughts.
Earlier posts mentioned an AC starting and taxiing, then had its mishap on take off IIRC. Sort of following that thought, that it took a while for the bad fuel to be introduced into the engine. I think that is where Hoover nozzles came into play – use.
On the AC in question, were there mooar than one fuel tank. Tank with good fuel “on” or otherwise in use for start, taxi, take off and fly awhile. THEN fuel from another tank used or pumped into an in service tank.
Make sense?
The goal her is to get the AC airborne, then have the fuel introduced into the engines. Engine failure airborne. crash. Likely death. certainly as in Epstein’s case, NOT suicide.
Hmmmm, should have gone back and read moar details of the plastic surgeons AC crash to see if my blathering fits.

kalbokalbs

Should have read article before ^^^ post. It appears AC crashed soon after take off.
Still standing on plastic surgeon and Epstein did NOT kill themselves.
Am wonder what Epstein’s new face looks like. it time, Epstein will surface.

wolfmoon1776

This is a good question for the “airplane-knowledgeable”. Is there enough fuel in the fuel lines and “system” to enable a take-off? Presumably that varies from plane to plane.
Another theory – he got up, had trouble, switched to the reserve, then switched back and lost the engines for good. Note that I have known people who “ride the reserve” in motorcycles and cars that have reserves. Don’t know if that’s bad practice in planes, but I think people are supposed to periodically draw on the reserve line anyway to keep it clear.
I believe it crashed pretty close to the airport, too.
Depending on the configuration of the reserve, it probably mixed late with the new fuel, but still mixed as the plane got up.

ozzytrumpster

Sep 2nd 2019, 4 tweets, 2 min read Read on Twitter
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Rusty Shackleford’s Little Saint James Island drone footage from yesterday or the day before. This is a blown up aerial shot. Who does this look like?
#Epstein #EpsteinIsland #LittleSaintJames

ozzytrumpster

Q said most plane crashes are targeted kills. I was assuming big planes

wolfmoon1776

Most plane crashes are small planes, however, so it all makes sense. ALTHOUGH I am certain that the one which took out Bev Eckert was targeted.

ozzytrumpster

Oh yeah. That stood out like dogs balls……
Wait . We have all been gender confused by Conan

ozzytrumpster

Slightly off topic weeks after Epstein didn’t kill himself a drone photo was taken from above of a guy on Epsteins estate/island where the leg length,body build was very similar to Epsteins. He was casually leaning his but on a golf buggy and chatting with the grounds man on the estate. The face etc were difficult due to the angle but it looked like him. He has got a brother though so maybe him

ozzytrumpster

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Rusty Shackleford’s Little Saint James Island drone footage from yesterday or the day before. This is a blown up aerial shot. Who does this look like?
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wolfmoon1776

Somebody will recognize him. Looks “like” Epstein but not Epstein, IMO.

Gail Combs

Epstein’s plastic surgeon is now dead…
How long does it take to heal from facial reconstruction surgery?

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Amazing, Check this out!

ForGodandCountry

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Gail Combs

He is very talented. I hope President Trump sees this and thanks him.

Linda

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Deplorable Patriot

You have a point…there is no such thing as bad publicity. Usually. In this case, the short video is taking off on Twitter, and may get more eyes on Q that way, which would be nice.
However, in this case, the gatekeeper aspect of the media is being played in the segment. Those who actually still watch 60 Minutes might well be steeped in believing what the “news” shows actually put forth as gospel truth. That’s part of what the news media considers their job – gatekeeping.
And, honestly, after 50+ years of finger wagging at the concept of conspiracies being in play, those sorts of people are going to fall for Leslie Stahl’s message.

Deplorable Patriot

YT cut down the amount of time Americans watch “controversial content” by 70%.
Talk about censorship. Who are they to be the judge(s)?

Harry Lime

YT is also cutting down the amount of time Americans watch YT. Who wants to go search for something there and have every result be a video from CNN? Apparently they think it’s worth it.

wheatietoo

Grrr…this is Election Tampering, bigtime!

ForGodandCountry

Time to break them up into a thousand different companies and radically dilute the control of content.

ozzytrumpster

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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
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The New York Times does Trump’s work for him.

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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
“The military is scrambling to save a mission that Trump has thrown into chaos.”
Don’t they know how stupid that is?
If Trump had issued an order, it would’ve been obeyed.
Obviously what Trump is saying publicly is not what’s actually happening.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
“Military leaders convinced Trump that some troops had to stay.”
That’s not it works.
Generals don’t DEBATE the president.
He give orders and then change his mind based on objections.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
But NOW, the times is reporting that we’ve sent Bradley fighting vehicles in an effort to “save the mission.”
What actually happened is that Trump tricked the press into giving him cover for sending Bradleys that OTHER TROOPS WILL USE.
The Saudis and the Lebanese are the only other countries that have Bradleys.
And their men wear uniforms identical to ours.
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
The Bradleys will disappear.
Count on it.
And look as his left chest tag.
US AIR FORCE!
They’re not supposed to wear multicam!
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
US Marines Special Operations Command (MARSOC).
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@ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
The Times ACTUALLY THINKS that Trump gave an order, and the armed forces are ignoring it.
THAT is amazing.
It shows a level of stupidity that I didn’t know existed.
They simply can’t perceive Trump as he is.
Dec 02, 2019, 10:07 · Web · 12 · 28
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Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
Trump’s victories are far more easily won than I thought they’d be.
His opponents are paper tigers with no heads.
For whatever reason, they will never be able to comprehend him.
And that’s why he defeated them even before he started.
END

ForGodandCountry

These people are stupid.
Q

Deplorable Patriot

After the last few entries here, Americans need a reminder from a movie.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

You Tell Em GOV!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Some things just should not be tried.

Gail Combs

The rattlesnakes and scorpions are gonna LUV those ‘boots’

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

OOH PRETTY!!! Melania has such excellent taste, can’t wait to see more!! 😍😍😍

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

I can’t believe I read the WHOLE THING!
UTTER PROPAGANDA!!!
Poor Poor Lisa, the Traitorous Witch🧛‍♀️👿🦂🐍, scared of Big Bad POTUS!!
IG report must not be looking good for her.
https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1201337235947184129?s=20

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Some Dude did a thread…

kalbokalbs

^^^ It’s all of the false narrative setting by the folks caught up in the IG report we’ll see December 9th. if not sooner, me thinks.
They are simply countering the facts laid out in the IG report. I do wonder, while some are floating thier “story line” now, wondering if they have flipped AND are working with Huber.
Gotta be a lot of folks that would like a lesser sentence than if they insisteds on pleading innocent.
A december to remember has arrived:-)

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

There was a time when some thought she had flipped, but after this, I think not. She’s trying to drum up sympathy for the jury pool. Pisses me off the lies about POTUS!

kalbokalbs

Yea. While Lisa is a lawyer and must have a brain, her instincts for self preservation are lacking if she is hooking up with Lawfare and the like.
If Lisa is not singing, she will have many a sleepless night in 2020.

ozzytrumpster
ozzytrumpster
rayzorbak

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several new ones.