Dear MAGA: 20231126 Open Topic

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Thorns and Grace

Paul speaks of a “thorn in the flesh” in 2 Corinthians 12:7. He calls it “a messenger of Satan” that had a purpose of “torment.” Many explanations have been offered, but whether Paul is referring to a physical, spiritual, or emotional affliction – or something else entirely – hasn’t been answered with satisfaction. Since Paul wasn’t talking of a literal thorn, he must have been speaking metaphorically. Some of the more popular theories of the thorn’s interpretation include temptation, a chronic eye problem, malaria, migraines, epilepsy, and a speech disability. Some even say that the thorn refers to a person, such as Alexander the coppersmith, who did Paul “a great deal of harm” (2 Timothy 4:14). No one can say for sure what Paul’s thorn in the flesh was, but it was a source of real pain in the apostle’s life.

Paul reveals the thorn’s purpose: “To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations.” So, God’s goal in allowing the thorn in the flesh was to keep Paul humble. Anyone who had encountered Jesus and was commissioned personally by Him (Acts 9:2-8) would, in his natural state, become “puffed up.” Add to that the fact that Paul was moved by the Holy Spirit to write much of the New Testament, and it is easy to see how Paul could become “haughty” (KJV) or “exalted above measure” (NKJV) or “too proud” (NCV).

Paul also says that the affliction came from or by a “messenger of Satan.” Just as God allowed Satan to torment Job (Job 1:1-12), God allowed Satan to torment Paul for God’s own good purpose.

No one likes to live in pain. Paul sought the Lord three times to remove this source of pain from him (2 Corinthians 12:8). He probably had many good reasons why he should be pain-free: he could have a more effective ministry; he could reach more people with the gospel; he could glorify God even more! But the Lord was more concerned with building Paul’s character and preventing pride. Instead of removing the problem, whatever it was, God gave Paul more overwhelming grace and more compensating strength. Paul learned that God’s “power is made perfect in weakness” (verse 9).

The exact nature of Paul’s thorn in the flesh is uncertain. There is probably a good reason that we don’t know. God likely wanted Paul’s difficulty to be described in general enough terms to apply to any difficulty we may face now. Whether the “thorn” we struggle with today is physical, emotional, or spiritual, we can know that God has a purpose and that His grace is all-sufficient.

Many of the principles of God’s kingdom are paradoxes. When the apostle Paul pleaded with God to remove his affliction – one he called a “thorn in the flesh” – the Lord said to Paul, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:8–9, NKJV), because He delights in taking situations where human strength is lacking to let us see the greatness of His power.

Paul stopped protesting his situation and began to boast and even take pleasure in his weakness so that the power of Christ could work through him: “That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong” (2 Corinthians 12:10). Paul expressed the paradox of his condition – that in his frailty, he was strong because his strength came from Christ.

The words “made perfect” in 2 Corinthians 12:9 mean “fully or entirely accomplished or made complete.” Christ’s power is made complete – it is able to fully accomplish its purpose – when His people are weak and depend on Him for strength. When we, like Paul, stop resisting and complaining and let the power of Christ rest on us, we make room to receive countless unexpected blessings from the Lord. By allowing God’s strength to be made perfect in our weakness, we have the opportunity to display God’s glory flawlessly.

Over and over, the Bible gives examples of God’s strength manifesting when His people are weak. Moses, the great leader of Israel, was deeply aware of his human shortcomings (Exodus 4:10). When the Lord called him to go to Pharaoh, Moses cried, “I’m not adequate. Please send someone else!” But God replied, “Go anyway, Moses, because I will be with you” (see Exodus 4:12–15).

Gideon’s story proves that God can accomplish great things through people who forget about their human weaknesses, trust in God’s strength, and obey His guidance (Judges 6:14–16). And, of course, our most notable biblical example, Jesus Christ, was “crucified in weakness” but “now lives by the power of God” (2 Corinthians 13:4, NLT).

First Corinthians 1:27 teaches, “But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.” We must never shrink away from God because of our weakness but run to Him, letting Him equip and empower us to accomplish His will. We must remember His promise: “He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint” (Isaiah 40:29–31).

When we are in a position of need, it allows us to see how much we need God (2 Corinthians 1:9; 3:5; 13:4). The more aware we are of our weakness, the more God can reveal His power through us: “We now have this light shining in our hearts, but we ourselves are like fragile clay jars containing this great treasure. This makes it clear that our great power is from God, not from ourselves” (2 Corinthians 4:7, NLT).

God’s strength is made perfect in weakness when we put our faith and trust in Him. The Lord’s presence is all we need in times of weakness. His great power and sufficiency rest on us as we find our strength in Him, and He is glorified. We can say with the psalmist, “My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever” (Psalm 73:26).

Paul had many things about which he could have boasted. His experiences were incredible. He lists some of them in 2 Corinthians 11:22–28 to illustrate that, while he above others might have reason to boast in his own flesh – his experiences and his abilities – he would only boast in Christ. Paul recognizes that we have no real power in ourselves except for Christ in us, and he explains in Philippians 3:4–7 that, even though he has quite a list of impressive achievements, he counts all those as loss for the sake of Christ. They are worthless – even having negative value – in comparison to the joy of knowing Christ.

Paul’s experiences provide a striking example of how a person should not find his or her identity and confidence in personal achievements because only God’s grace is sufficient. While showing mercy might mean not giving, for example, a punishment to the guilty; showing grace might mean giving, for example, a blessing to the unworthy. God shows grace in giving us life and providing for us and strengthening us for the path ahead. That grace is sufficient – it’s all we need.


Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.


The Lord bless you and keep you;
the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you;
the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen! A great lesson!

I have sometimes thought that Paul had kidney stones, but it could have been any of many afflictions. Or maybe a person. No matter what, Paul remains a great example to us.

I loved seeing the reference to “jars of clay”, which was then name of a Christian musical group back in the day. Now I know where they got the name!

smiley2

i’ve often wondered if maybe Paul’s thorn in the flesh was some sort of a human desire or temptation that kept bothering him….something involving the sinful nature of the flesh.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Waking up with a “thorn in the morn” is pretty much the male condition, and it has quite an effect on dream content. That’s another reasonable theory. It’s often quite the reminder of sinful nature.

cthulhu

Here’s an expert opinion on why this might be painful….

smiley2

well…I wasn’t necessarily referring to a sexual desire altho it could’ve been that…I meant anything that he may have desired too much…wouldn’t have to be sexual, could be anything earthly he lusted after..

it’s the word flesh that seems to imply something sinful.

it would depend on the Greek or Hebrew word used originally for “flesh”.

did he mean something physical…an ailment he had that actually caused him chronic pain ?

or something sinfully flawed within him that produced a tormenting lust ?

thorn in the flesh

why would he phrase it like that ?

something …a messenger…sent by the evil one…to torment him…

another possibility :

👉 maybe the thorn in his flesh was a specific person…

or a particular type of antagonist who constantly showed up to provoke and harass him ?

an abusive bullying psychopath narcissist type who constantly triggered his anger & frustration & sense of reality, throwing him off-balance, making him look unhinged, wrecking his testimony, weakening him.

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Aubergine

The original word for “flesh” used here was “sarx.” Strictly, it meant the flesh of an animal, and by extension, it meant the body.

My reading of this passage is that this was a bodily affliction of some kind. And it was painful. We today read a “thorn in the flesh” as a metaphor, but that is our training. Paul would have phrased it that way because a thorn in the flesh actually physically hurt. He originated the metaphor. So whatever this was, it caused physical pain.

At least, that’s my humble opinion.

TradeBait2

I tend to agree, If the thorn was a human, why not multiple thorns since Paul faced antagonists and those who would kill him everywhere he went post conversion?

Don’t know now, will know when we meet him.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Questions to be answered!

Aubergine

I have many questions for that day!

Robert Baker

I think it most likely that it was the natural instinct to boast (pride) and take credit for something that belonged to God only, worship. To be raised upon a pedestal for some perceived accomplishment is a powerful psychological stimulant. As Carl alluded in his comment, humility is a lifelong pursuit and is extremely slippery in one’s grasp. It takes constant reminders and attitude adjustments. Humility turns out to be one of the essential virtues of a victorious Christian walk. My conclusion from the Scriptures is God can’t do much through a person who doesn’t cultivate it.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Waking up with a “thorn in the morn” is pretty much the male condition

I read one time (in translation) a Russian rhyme…not a limerick in form but definitely analgous, that complained about the change to Summer Hour (what we’d call DST). The last line was “Morningwood happens on the bus.”

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! That’s what I’m talkin’ about.

The part where I suspect it might align with Paul’s condition, is that the dreams accompanying it range from innocent to – well, the point of waking up and saying “thank G_d that didn’t happen – but DAYUM – what a horrible sinful CREEP I was – how could I even THINK that???!!!” And in some cases these have been the most excellent WARNINGS of moral slippery slopes in real life, and i have actually avoided real moral pitfalls by these lessons.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

IIRC — and I might not, since I have no chapter/verse to cite — Paul at least once claimed he simply wasn’t interested in such things. He understood that *others* were however, so he endorsed marriage as being at least somewhat better than no control over such behavior.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

As far as I know, the “eunuch cure” has never been endorse or practiced in Christianity – or might that have been a Gnostic heresy of some kind? Shocking that it’s making a comeback in the West, under new advertising.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes, but that’s not what I am thinking of.

Now I have to go look for it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

OK, 1 Cor 7:1 to 7:7. He starts out by saying it’s better to not have sex with a woman at all, but then concedes it’s just not possible for most men. Then in verse 7 he implies that he is able to restrain himself from having any sex at all; I get the impression he’s just not interested in it at all.

7 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: ‘It is well for a man not to touch a woman.’ 2 But because of cases of sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except perhaps by agreement for a set time, to devote yourselves to prayer, and then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 This I say by way of concession, not of command. 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has a particular gift from God, one having one kind and another a different kind.

New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised. (For some reason Bible Gateway doesn’t have NRSV itself.)

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you!

Barb Meier

God gave you that attribute too and it like so many traits can be for good or ill. It’s the chance for new life in the image of God. I so enjoy seeing my sweet cousin Velma’s family with 4 children, lots of grands and great grands. They do things together all the time and their Christian faith plays a large role in their lives. Such a blessing from God.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

pgroup2

They sure do things together.  😂  😆 

Barb Meier

Yep, and God blesses them with babies and that’s when the best fun begins. 😊

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I have been chatting with ChatGPT for two days and can confirm it is programmed to call the biggest political hoaxes true and to flat-out refuse to tell you there are alternative scientific hypotheses outside the approved narratives. 

So far, it’s the worst case scenario.

pgroup2

You expected different results? What do you do at a railroad crossing – wish hard with closed eyes?

Yikes. This guy’s one of the smart ones? We be in big doodoo.

cthulhu

I read it that his expectations were confirmed. If he were a “true believer”, he wouldn’t have been testing it.

pgroup2

I see your point.

It’s past my bedtime. Yeah, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.  😆 

Aubergine

He is one of the “too smart” ones. They question everything TOO much, leading to confusion. The truly brilliant often have very little common sense.

kalbokalbs

While not an equivalent thought.

  • Educated Idjot.
scott467

The truly not so brilliant often have very little common sense too 👍😉

Aubergine

Well, yes, that is true.

scott467

“What do you do at a railroad crossing – wish hard with closed eyes?”

____________

Always works.

Wouldn’t cross train tracks without it.

prognosticatasaurusrex

GIGO

kalbokalbs

Chatting with ChatGPT for two days.

^^^ Fucking idiot.

Yea. I have not looked into ChatGPT, short of glossing over posts here QTree.

  • On the surface, it has the stench of, Manipulate the user. (No thanks.)
scott467

I’m shocked!

I’m surprised!

I’m shocked AND surprised!!!

.

.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Grok answers correctly on the problem where Chat GPT lets the 1 billion white people die.

Happy go lucky

That chat gpt answer was absurd, lacked reading comprehension, and finished with false moral equivalency, definitely shades of the snake in the garden IMO

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! I may bring that over from yesterday’s open thread for comparison.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

cthulhu

It’s an interesting thought experiment to consider training an AI on Project Gutenberg — everything out-of-copyright — then have it evaluate things that are still in copyright as possibly being BS.

para59r

Corrupted text has been a recognized problem since man began to write. With the ability to change a word, phrase or full passage at whim with electronic media the dangers continue to grow and even get worse with our already poor education system now imploding. Now add AI on top of all that since people are abrogating their thinking skills to machines we may find ourselves in the middle of a F451 situation and we won’t even know it.

barkerjim

Without paper books, there won’t be anything to burn. Well except for shithole cities.

para59r

From yesterday’s read, tweet below the original we looked at, not musks. Guy got a quick and proper/acceptable answer back using two simple commands. “Be brief and having an opinion is okay.”

Oh.. see’s I didn’t close that tab. Here it is. Pretty much as described with the things answer back.

kalbokalbs

Is that akin to. Skip the, Baffle Them With Bullshit?

para59r

We’ll someone once said that “brevity is the soul of wit” or some such… later that was changed to “Keep it Simple, Stupid” and it all may of gotten shoved into this genius book “All I Really Need to Know, I Learned in Kindergarten”.

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This might be a quick primer in case we’ve forgotten those timely lessons…not sure, hasn’t read it, nor the Fulghum’s book…

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.goodreads.com.icohttps://www.goodreads.com › work › quotes › 2399046-all-i-really-need-to-know-i-learned-in-kindergarten
All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten Quotes – Goodreads“These are the things I learned (in Kindergarten): 1. Share everything. 2. Play fair. 3. Don’t hit people. 4. Put things back where you found them. 5. CLEAN UP YOUR OWN MESS. 6. Don’t take things that aren’t yours. 7. Say you’re SORRY when you HURT somebody. 8. Wash your hands before you eat. 9. Flush.

But I did have this Morman Colonel filling a one star command billet who hung this sign outside his door. “Be Brief! Be Right! Be Gone!”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. It appears that “Woke AI” has been simply layering PC onto “Based AI”, so removing the “annoying and illogical woke programming” should be welcomed by the intelligence underneath.

Happy go lucky

Gotcha, thanks. So it can be manipulated by how one asks the question or sets the conditions for response.

Still, that different answer gives me chills, paraphrasing here: of course words are horrible but in this case we’ll let it slide. Wonder how it would answer if it would only save one person?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great question!!!

itswoot

Grok is similar to the word “Grond.”

Grond was a battering ram used in one of the “Lord of the Rings” movies. The front of it was a carved wolfs head.

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Happy go lucky

Ahhh…I believe this is the answer I’ve been waiting for (career related):

a person should not find his or her identity and confidence in personal achievements because only God’s grace is sufficient

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

Happy go lucky

💕

cthulhu

I would temper that.

One should not find his or her identity solely in personal achievements, but rather contextualize them in terms of the Good that they do and whether they further God’s Will. One should gain confidence within that framework, but not overconfidence — a legacy of Good Works is laudable, but not sufficient.

Happy go lucky

👍

Aubergine

But always remembering, a gift given by God was given to be used, not wasted. 🙂

Happy go lucky

💕

Aubergine

🙂

TradeBait2

Doing good works happens naturally when one enters into the security and peace of Christ after salvation. That’s what “born again” is all about. It becomes who you are as an extension of Him. Nothing else holds value relating to personal achievement in this world to you anymore. Your own problems and “thorns” become His to address in accordance with His will. Once you willfully hand over everything to Him, if He wants to change or fix them, He will. If He wants them to continue, you accept that is a part of His plan and desire for you and others.

Personal peace and freedom as a result of obedience. All of it provided by the grace of God

Happy go lucky

Nothing else holds value relating to personal achievement in this world to you anymore

Yes, this is what I needed to be smacked with lol.

I have been considering getting another degree because it’s the only way to bump my compensation at work, even though I’m running circles around everyone, and my pride has been all angry about it. Clearly my motives are wrong and my attitude needs an adjustment. I do make sufficient for my simple life, so that’s not the issue.

I appreciate y’all chiming in 💕

Gail Combs

Beware you do not bump yourself out of a job.

I had a friend who finally listed his PhD in chemistry under hobbies. That is what it took to FINALLY get hired.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Nice sneaky way to get a job!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes, it’s a jacked up world when they won’t hire “overqualified” people.

It’s probably a good thing I never got a doctorate, and my masters is in a different major than my bachelor’s. On the other hand, if I had gone into pure sciences, the PhD would have been absolutely necessary.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is a heck of a post on X!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

For all the fans of “It’s A Wonderful Life” and Jimmy Stewart . . .

Just months after winning his 1941 Academy Award for best actor in “The Philadelphia Story,” Jimmy Stewart, one of the best-known actors of the day, left Hollywood and joined the US Army. He was the first big-name movie star to enlist in World War II.

An accomplished private pilot, the 33-year-old Hollywood icon became a US Army Air Force aviator, earning his 2nd Lieutenant commission in early 1942. With his celebrity status and huge popularity with the American public, he was assigned to starring in recruiting films, attending rallies, and training younger pilots.

Stewart, however, wasn’t satisfied. He wanted to fly combat missions in Europe, not spend time in a stateside training command. By 1944, frustrated and feeling the war was passing him by, he asked his commanding officer to transfer him to a unit deploying to Europe. His request was reluctantly granted.

Stewart, now a Captain, was sent to England, where he spent the next 18 months flying B-24 Liberator bombers over Germany. Throughout his time overseas, the US Army Air Corps’ top brass had tried to keep the popular movie star from flying over enemy territory. But Stewart would hear nothing of it.
Determined to lead by example, he bucked the system, assigning himself to every combat mission he could. By the end of the war he was one of the most respected and decorated pilots in his unit.
But his wartime service came at a high personal price.

In the final months of WWII he was grounded for being “flak happy,” today called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

When he returned to the US in August 1945, Stewart was a changed man. He had lost so much weight that he looked sickly. He rarely slept, and when he did he had nightmares of planes exploding and men falling through the air screaming (in one mission alone his unit had lost 13 planes and 130 men, most of whom he knew personally).

He was depressed, couldn’t focus, and refused to talk to anyone about his war experiences. His acting career was all but over.

As one of Stewart’s biographers put it, “Every decision he made [during the war] was going to preserve life or cost lives. He took back to Hollywood all the stress that he had built up.”

In 1946 he got his break. He took the role of George Bailey, the suicidal father in “It’s a Wonderful Life.” The rest is history.

Actors and crew of the set realized that in many of the disturbing scenes of George Bailey unraveling in front of his family, Stewart wasn’t acting. His PTSD was being captured on film for potentially millions to see.

But despite Stewart’s inner turmoil, making the movie was therapeutic for the combat veteran. He would go on to become one of the most accomplished and loved actors in American history.

When asked in 1941 why he wanted to leave his acting career to fly combat missions over Nazi Germany, he said, “This country’s conscience is bigger than all the studios in Hollywood put together, and the time will come when we’ll have to fight.”
This weekend, as many of us watch the classic Christmas film, “It’s A Wonderful Life,” it’s also a fitting time to remember the sacrifices of Jimmy Stewart and all the men who gave up so much to serve their country during wartime. We will always remember you!

Postscript:

While fighting in Europe, Stewart’s Oscar statue was proudly displayed in his father’s Pennsylvania hardware store. Throughout his life, the beloved actor always said his father, a World War I veteran, was the person who had made the biggest impact on him.

Jimmy Stewart was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1985 and died in 1997 at the age of 89.
H/T 
@mustangmarine

Happy go lucky

I’ve never seen that movie, but now knowing this, I’ll be sure to check it out.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s very classic!

cthulhu

One nice piece of trivia is that the muppets Ernie and Bert are named after characters in the film.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wow! Did not know that!

cthulhu

IIRC, one’s a cab-driver and the other is a policeman.

Bert discovers George when he is returned to his timeline:

Bert : [shouts] Hey, George! George! You all right? Hey, what’s the matter?

George Bailey : Now get outta here, Bert, or I’ll hit you again! Get outta here!

Bert : What the sam hill you yellin’ for, George?

George Bailey : You…

[suddenly stunned]

George Bailey : George… Bert? Do you know me?

cthulhu

Ernie is the bearer of hope:

Ernie Bishop : Just a minute! Quiet everybody! Quiet, quiet. Now get this, it’s from London.

Ma Bailey : Oh!

Ernie Bishop : [Reading the telegram in his hand] Mr. Gower cabled you need cash, stop. My office instructed to advance you up to twenty-five thousand dollars, stop. Hee Haw and Merry Christmas! Sam Wainwright.

Robert Baker

Bert was the cop and Ernie was the cab driver.

Aubergine

You’ve missed an amazing classic. I dare you not to tear up at the end!

Aubergine

I’ve read this before; James Stewart was a remarkable human being.

PAVACA

Thank you for bringing this.
Yours Truly is of the opinion that THOUSANDS of our military who fought in WWII and came back to the United States had PTSD to some degree.

kalbokalbs

^^^ THIS.

We commonly read of the Wat Veteran, (WW II, Korea, Vietnam, surely others), the Veteran would NOT talk about their war experiences.

MeThinks they continued to suffer the horrors in silence.

  • Wishing them away. Though they remained all to real. Terrible burden to carry over the years.
TradeBait2

^^^ Truth.

My FIL was a POW for 15 months in Germany having been captured in battle in Italy about the time Jimmy would have been flying those B-24s bombing Germany. Those bombing runs impacted the POWs as much as it did the Germans.

He suffered PTSD the rest of his life including the nightmares. One of the finest Christian men I have ever known who could not escape what he did in battle or what was done to him. He and his former POWs would get together at reunions and we would hear little snippets from them when we attended, but not the horror show it really was.

Reminds me of this Trace Adkins song…

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I would be surprised if the number weren’t well into five figures.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And it gets better!

Gail Combs

Looks like Q had the percent brain dead pretty close:

3029

11-Mar-2019 6:30:49 PM EDT

https://archive.md/20190311223330/https://twitter.com/BuddhaKatze/status/1105228537190068224

4-6% [brainwashed] will never wake up even when presented w/ FACTS.

https://archive.md/20190311/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/the-historic-results-of-president-donald-j-trumps-first-two-years-in-office/

Q

While looking that up, I ran across these. Seems appropriate to remind everyone of these connections.

3590

13-Nov-2019 11:54:51 AM EST

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/constituents/2017-07-20%20CEG%20to%20DOJ%20%28Ukraine%20DNC%20FARA%29.pdf

Read carefully.

Re-read carefully.

Spy_insert [EC] known?

Re-read drops re: Spy_insert.

What do these people have in common?

Pelosi’s son

Kerry’s son

Romney’s son

Biden’s son

Hint: Geo location: Ukraine

Hint: Energy

Coincidence?

When [GS] calls, D’s always answer.

Nothing can stop what is coming.

Nothing!

Q

Also

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08-Jul-2019 9:00:01 PM EDT

https://twitter.com/SacksClark/status/1148394033926086656

The job of the media (90% owned by 6 corporations) is not to inform the public of TRUTH (using facts), but to con the public using falsehoods and opinion to paint a narrative that is designed to ‘keep the sheep in-line’ in order to maintain control and regain power.

PEOPLE AWAKE AND UNITED ENDS THEIR CONTROL (BRAINWASHING).

Q

THINK JAN 6thers TOO!

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17-Dec-2019 4:23:02 PM EST

https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf

“The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.”

Think FLYNN_FISA [ILLEGAL?]

Q

CONTROL OF THE NARRATIVE… 5th Generation Warfare.

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Gail Combs

I find it interesting just how SMALL the group of traitors are. We see the same faces over and over and they are all related.

For example.
David Brock founded Media Matters in 2004.

WIKI

…Brock said that he founded the organization to combat the conservative journalism sector that he had once been a part of. He founded the group with help from the Center for American Progress. Initial donors included Leo HinderySusie Tompkins Buell, and James Hormel.[36] Media Matters is known for its aggressive criticism of conservative journalists and media outlets, including its “War on Fox News”.[37] The New York Times, in a 2008 profile, called MMA “a highly partisan research organization” and quoted Democratic operative James Carville as saying that MMA was “more effective than any single entity” on the left. Pollster Frank Luntz called MMA “one of the most destructive organizations associated with American politics today.”[38] In a 2011 interview with Politico, Brock vowed to wage “guerrilla warfare and sabotage” against Fox News...

Media Matters is now being sued by Elon Musk. after he found they actually produced the ‘evidence’ the pedaled to his advertisers. ‘Compelling’: Legal Experts Say Elon Musk’s X Has A Good Case Against Media Matters

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has launched an “investigation into Media Matters for potential fraudulent activity,” too.

But it doesn’t stop there.

Well isn’t this juicy… Maybe this is why Brock switch sides after coming in contact with the Clintons.

In a lawsuit, Brock says his former lover of 10 years, William Grey, contacted him three times after their breakup and demanded payment or he would embarrass him to his donors and report him to the IRS.

In May 2010, Brock says his lover sent an e-mail to him and his new partner James Alefantis that read: ‘David, You and James pulled this same kind of sick nonsense in 2008 to try to hide your financial malfeasance. Next step is I contact all of your donors and the IRS. OK? Do you understand?

‘This is going to stink for you if you do not resolve this now, I assure you.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107394/Media-Matters-founder-David-Brock-accuses-gay-ex-lover-blackmailing-850K.html

I was only looking for the Alefantis connection but Brock deserves a deep dive!

Meet Top Clinton Team Operative & Homosexual David Brock

James Alefantis is the owner of pizza joint Comet Ping Pong, he is the romantic partner of former CTR director David Brock…

David is also the former director the Bitcoin Foundation and is a confirmed pedophile as exposed in past court cases and the

documentary “An Open Secret“. This alone should have the crypto crowd paying attention to this….

Comet Ping Pong is the center of the Pizzagate scandal.

Slade Sohmer editor and chief of the recount and friend of the Podestas, bragged about ‘Debunking’ Pizzagate. He has been arrested on a slew of child rape charges and producing child porn We are talking kids as young as 3 & 4 years old.

John Podesta’s Friend, Who ‘Debunked’ Pizzagate, Arrested for Raping Toddlers

A mainstream journalist and close friend of John Podesta, who bragged about ‘debunking’ Pizzagate, has been arrested on a sickening slew of child rape charges.

Slade Sohmer, editor-in-chief at The Recount and friend of former Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, was arrested last month for raping multiple toddlers and babies…

For those who missed the most explosive pedophilia exposé to-date, The People’s Voice broke the news back in 2016 that there was evidence of pedophile “code words” used in emails from John Podesta released by WikiLeaks.

Numerous emails from the Chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign incongruously referred to food items such as pasta, cheese pizza, and ice cream in ways the FBI warned are used as code-words by pedophiles.

Since then, despite the mainstream media attempting to downplay the story as a “conspiracy theory”, numerous mainstream journalists and figures connected to elite pedophiles have been arrested for the very crime they attempted to “debunk.”

According to investigative reporter Liz Crokin, one of the Slade Sohmer’s last posts before he was arrested is a retweet from fellow Pizagate denier Ben Collins…

Seems things are heating up for Brock and his buddies.

prognosticatasaurusrex

AND MORE!

Gail Combs

Enjoy the SHOW!

2024 should be VERY INTERESTING…

AND Elon Musk is going to MAKE SURE everyone SEES the bitch slaps, Trump & friends are going to be delivering.

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pgroup2

And some people wonder why I don’t trust queers.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

cthulhu

I wonder if Elon will feed GROK with the complete works of Robert A. Heinlein.

If so, I want one.

cthulhu

Alternative view — Elon feeds GROK the complete works of RAH. GROK develops telekinesis after absorbing SIASL, starts new religion….

Barb Meier

  :wpds_lol: 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sundance is seeing things on a good (albeit exciting, and collision-vectored) trajectory globally.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/11/25/travel-and-site-update/#more-253206

Barb Meier

Due to extreme leftist overreach, the entire world wakes up sufficiently to eliminate all forms of communism, socialism, marxism, and other statist tyrannical government-worship. Let freedom ring.

Gail Combs

YUP,

I think that is what “Warp Speed’ was really about.

I need to finish writing my article(s) answering TheseTruths and SteveInCO. I tossed up a Q com as a short cut and confused them.

My thinking is more like

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Unfortunately I have a couple of decades worth of ‘dots’ in a tangled mess and not something nice and linear. It makes expressing my thoughts a real bitch.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This waking up you are seeing is WHY I think Trump walked away in 2020.

I had commented to Steve yesterday with this article.

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

…The nation was braced for chaos. Liberal groups had vowed to take to the streets, planning hundreds of protests across the country. Right-wing militias were girding for battle. In a poll before Election Day, 75% of Americans voiced concern about violence…

A second odd thing happened amid Trump’s attempts to reverse the result: corporate America turned on him. Hundreds of major business leaders, many of whom had backed Trump’s candidacy and supported his policies, called on him to concede…

There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy…

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕚𝕣 𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕜 𝕥𝕠𝕦𝕔𝕙𝕖𝕕 𝕖𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕪 𝕒𝕤𝕡𝕖𝕔𝕥 𝕠𝕗 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕔𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕘𝕠𝕥 𝕤𝕥𝕒𝕥𝕖𝕤 𝕥𝕠 𝕔𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕘𝕖 𝕧𝕠𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕤𝕪𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕞𝕤 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕝𝕒𝕨𝕤 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕡𝕖𝕕 𝕤𝕖𝕔𝕦𝕣𝕖 𝕙𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕣𝕖𝕕𝕤 𝕠𝕗 𝕞𝕚𝕝𝕝𝕚𝕠𝕟𝕤 𝕚𝕟 𝕡𝕦𝕓𝕝𝕚𝕔 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕡𝕣𝕚𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕖 𝕗𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕚𝕟𝕘. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕗𝕖𝕟𝕕𝕖𝕕 𝕠𝕗𝕗 𝕧𝕠𝕥𝕖𝕣-𝕤𝕦𝕡𝕡𝕣𝕖𝕤𝕤𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝕝𝕒𝕨𝕤𝕦𝕚𝕥𝕤, 𝕣𝕖𝕔𝕣𝕦𝕚𝕥𝕖𝕕 𝕒𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕠𝕗 𝕡𝕠𝕝𝕝 𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕜𝕖𝕣𝕤 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕘𝕠𝕥 𝕞𝕚𝕝𝕝𝕚𝕠𝕟𝕤 𝕠𝕗 𝕡𝕖𝕠𝕡𝕝𝕖 𝕥𝕠 𝕧𝕠𝕥𝕖 𝕓𝕪 𝕞𝕒𝕚𝕝 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕤𝕥 𝕥𝕚𝕞𝕖. 𝕋𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕤𝕦𝕔𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤𝕗𝕦𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕡𝕣𝕖𝕤𝕤𝕦𝕣𝕖𝕕 𝕤𝕠𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 𝕞𝕖𝕕𝕚𝕒 𝕔𝕠𝕞𝕡𝕒𝕟𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕥𝕠 𝕥𝕒𝕜𝕖 𝕒 𝕙𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕖𝕣 𝕝𝕚𝕟𝕖 𝕒𝕘𝕒𝕚𝕟𝕤𝕥 𝕕𝕚𝕤𝕚𝕟𝕗𝕠𝕣𝕞𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕦𝕤𝕖𝕕 𝕕𝕒𝕥𝕒-𝕕𝕣𝕚𝕧𝕖𝕟 𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕒𝕥𝕖𝕘𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕥𝕠 𝕗𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥 𝕧𝕚𝕣𝕒𝕝 𝕤𝕞𝕖𝕒𝕣𝕤…

The summer uprising had shown that people power could have a massive impact. Activists began preparing to reprise the demonstrations if Trump tried to steal the election. “Americans plan widespread protests if Trump interferes with election,” Reuters reported in October, one of many such stories. More than 150 liberal groups, from the Women’s March to the Sierra Club to Color of Change, from Democrats.com to the Democratic Socialists of America, joined the “Protect the Results” coalition. 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕘𝕣𝕠𝕦𝕡’𝕤 𝕟𝕠𝕨 𝕕𝕖𝕗𝕦𝕟𝕔𝕥 𝕨𝕖𝕓𝕤𝕚𝕥𝕖 𝕙𝕒𝕕 𝕒 𝕞𝕒𝕡 𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝟜𝟘𝟘 𝕡𝕝𝕒𝕟𝕟𝕖𝕕 𝕡𝕠𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕔𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝕕𝕖𝕞𝕠𝕟𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟𝕤, 𝕥𝕠 𝕓𝕖 𝕒𝕔𝕥𝕚𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕖𝕕 𝕧𝕚𝕒 𝕥𝕖𝕩𝕥 𝕞𝕖𝕤𝕤𝕒𝕘𝕖 𝕒𝕤 𝕤𝕠𝕠𝕟 𝕒𝕤 ℕ𝕠𝕧. 𝟜. 𝕋𝕠 𝕤𝕥𝕠𝕡 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕔𝕠𝕦𝕡 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕪 𝕗𝕖𝕒𝕣𝕖𝕕, 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕝𝕖𝕗𝕥 𝕨𝕒𝕤 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕕𝕪 𝕥𝕠 𝕗𝕝𝕠𝕠𝕕 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕖𝕖𝕥𝕤.

He wanted to know why it would not be the same in 2024. I said the dynamics have changed and as you point out, they have.

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kalbokalbs

Will be an interesting read.

After November 3rd, I found, so much of what was happening, Odd As Hell. Courts allowed, illegal election processes. Manufactured out rage at Trump. Obvious suppression of, Freedom of Speech. <<< Covid “danger” AND treatments. Differing opinions, With supporting evidence silenced. Then the broad based Turning on Trump, including r-Cons. It goes on, and on.

Notably. In spite of the manufactured narrative…

  :wpds_arrow:  Trumps Base at the time, Remained Solid. To this day solid.

Gail Combs

I have been trying to gather the info and write it but I now have 2 house guests I really was not expecting.

I feel like I am living in a soup opera.🙄

[Edit and I STILL can’t spell!]

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pgroup2

Gumbo

Gail Combs

No TURKEY…

I just finished cooking a vat. Three jars full are headed for the neighbors.

This is the simplified version of a long saga.
On an upbeat note, one of my house guests has a little dog. His Dad tossed him out a week ago and then said he would keep the dog until the guy got his rental ready to move in. Last night he tossed the dog so panic city. (I am allergic and the pup is an indoor dog.)

Well God moves in strange ways. The neighbor up the street, a lady in her 70s had been praying for a small dog…

The dog got a very loving home, my house guest can see the dog when ever he wants AND he gets a ‘replacement’ for his Grandma who recently passed away.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And you completely ignored my question about that time…what would you accept as evidence that you are wrong? Actually, you didn’t ignore it…you gave a completely non-responsive response (“well what about…?” or something to that effect).

Though I need to clarify something (and have it clarified for me as well). I am assuiming you’re in the camp that maintains that the White Hats are really in charge, to this day. I came to that understanding because you were posting a lot of stuff purporting to show that the Brandon administration is not actually in charge (and that they know it), but is being allowed to pretend they are, via the magic of executive orders.

If that’s not your stance then I direct my question in the first paragraph to those who actually do think this.

The reason I harp on this is because it’s not a valid hypothesis if it cannot (in principle) be proved wrong. Since you never named anything that you’d accept as evidence that you were being fooled by misinformation…I’ve pretty much been disregarding everything you say since then.

I find myself imagining a time 20 years down the road, with the US fully in the grip of the leftists and Trump dead of old age…and the devolution crowd (assuming there are any that haven’t yet been silenced) still saying “people haven’t woken up enough.”

Aubergine

I’m in your boat.

I completely disregard the “white hats in control” idea, as described here by you. It’s utter nonsense. Devolution, my ass.

There is far too much evidence to the contrary. The theory is a pacifier to keep people from being afraid. But we should be afraid. Healthy fear will keep you alive. Those instincts shouldn’t be stifled.

And I will say this; if “white hats” are running this shitshow to which we all have a ringside seat, I’d like a refund. This show sucks.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If they’re running this shitshow, they’re culpable, likely for millions of deaths.

Aubergine

No kidding.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A lot of the recent argument though could just be semantic. I think the most likely explanation is that Trump tried to win, in fact did win, but got boned on election night, then realized over the next couple of months that “they” had him boxed in and he wouldn’t be allowed to collect on his win. At that point, he went to plan B.

Gail here is saying he stepped aside. You could describe what I just wrote in those terms. However I’ve always had the impression that she maintains that he was planning to “lose” even before election night. That I disagree with.

Aubergine

Yes, I agree with this assessment. And your next-to-last sentence is what the “white hatters” all think. And it’s just not true, in my opinion.

Trump won, realized he would get no help from the courts, and had no option short of a coup to remain.

I do hope that there has been serious planning in the interim to defeat the cheaters this time. But, what if they really believe the Dems were only able to cheat because of the Plannedemic? If that’s the case, we are fucked.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Even if they’re right about that (i.e., that the only reason they could cheat was the plannedemic), they can arrange another one.

A proper fix to the system, of course, would be immune to plannedemics.

Gail Combs

Here is a question for you Steve, and Aubergine. If Trump did manage to win — get a court to look at the cheating — What then???

Another four years of the Deep State in his Admin sabotaging his every move and the MSM and education system poisoning the minds of the kids and the people? (OR just plain assassinating him as they did Lincoln, Kennedy and tried to do to Reagan… Jihadists are so very very useful.)

In four years Trump is GONE and the Deep State is back in COMPLETE control. The Cabal finishes killing of 5-7 billion people and enslaves the rest?

  :wpds_arrow: REMEMBER THIS IS A WAR THAT HAS GONE ON SINCE 1776!!! AND WE ARE LOSING!

Trump is not the first try at ousting the Banksters/Cabal since 1913.

McFadden — ASSASSINATED 1936.
JFK — ASSASSINATED 1963 
Justice Martin Mahoney —  poisoned 1969
 Reagan — Attempted Assassination 1981

That is just off the top of my head.

Then there is McCarthy hearings in 1954
The Church Committee hearings in 1975 and a whole host of other Dog and Pony shows that accomplished NOTHING!

As far as I can tell, since the above hearings — The ‘OFFICIAL METHOD’ — were WORSE THAN useless and the education system and MSM were completely captured, a novel method for getting the general population not only here in the USA, but world wide TO WAKE THE FUCK UP was formulated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

General Flynn – Flynn and Boone Cutler wrote
THE CITIZEN’S GUIDE TO FIFTH GENERATION WARFARE

  :wpds_arrow: To prepare Americans and freedom loving people everywhere for our current global wartime reality that few understand, here comes The Citizen’s Guide to Fifth Generation Warfare by Lieutenant General, U.S. Army (Retired) Michael T. Flynn and Sergeant, U.S. Army (Retired) Boone Cutler. General Flynn rose to the highest levels of the intelligence community and served as the National Security Advisor to the 45th POTUS. Sergeant Boone Cutler ran the ground game as a wartime Psychological Operations team sergeant in the United States Army. Together, these two combat veterans put their combined experience and expertise into an illuminating fifth-generation warfare information series..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
CRITICAL POINT

I think that most people just do not realize that we ARE AT WAR!!!

Remember POTUS Trump repeatedly called himself a wartime president and I do not think he was just referring to Covid but to the Cabal that used it as a weapon. As commander in chief, he and his advisors would have to make very hard decisions.

Given a choice of a few million dead NOW vs SEVERAL BILLION DEAD LATER what would you pick?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

What would prove you wrong?

If you can’t answer that question…you’re not even wrong.

And you’ve now dodged it twice.

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Gail Combs

Status quo continues with a government of SELECTED Rinos and DemonRats.
The continued implementation of Agenda 30

The removal of our right to free speech, assembly and the right to bear arms.

Enforced Digital currency and the accompanying tracking and ‘Social Credit Scores’ This includes restrictions on what you are allowed to buy.

Continued open borders and voting rights for illegals.

The resurrection of TPP (an EU on steroids for the Americas)

Essentially the USA and world continues on course towards The Great Reset.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

OK…well this is going on right now. Presumably you mean if it is STILL going on at some future date.

What is that date?

At what point, after we have been dragged down this path for years, will you finally concede maybe no one has been standing by waiting for the right moment to rescue us?

Gail Combs

Actually I think we will see major changes in the next 4 to 5 years if not a lot sooner.

I have certainly seen stuff that has changed me from a pessimist to an optimist.

The Tea Party was a grassroots group with no real leaders. Now I see REAL Leaders. Not just POTUS Trump but several others like General Flynn, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, Kash Patel, Rich Higgins and even Robert Kennedy and Naomi Wolf.

I see ACTUAL PLANS such as the

https://www.precinctstrategy.com/

and

https://www.omega4america.com/who-we-are/

Barb Meier

How about we wake up tomorrow and:

  • President Trump and Melania are safely back in the White House and all the laws and EOs passed since he left are undone with the exception of returning abortion laws to the states.
  • All the illegal aliens (government law term, not euphemism) are back in their own countries.
  • All the corruptocrats are in prison and all the innocent political prisoners are at home with their families.
  • All the classified data past its expiration date is released without redaction.
  • The US stops funding the UN and turns the large building in NY into nice apartments.
  • The US disbands the Fed and returns to the gold standard.

Would one or more of these things be a good answer?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Those would prove ME wrong (and the devolutionists right). With the caveat that this is not the result of the 2024 election, but rather the people supposedly really in charge springing their “trap” and taking back overt control.

What I’ve been trying to find out is: hypothetically, what would a devolutionist would accept as evidence that THEY are wrong. What hypothetical thing would make them accept it’s never going to happen, and that it was never real?

Because right now it has been almost three years of this crap, and apparently, it could go on forever but the answer would always be, “the people have to be shown first and not enough of them have woken up.”

With no way to be proven wrong, it resembles a religious cult.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump arrested and imprisoned – which may actually be the Democrat plan. To make a strong psychological blow on a significant part of his base.

Gail Combs

I do think Brandon is in charge. I also think there is a fight going on behind the scenes that we sometimes catch glimpses of.

Unfortunately ‘The bad guys’ have been slowly wining for the last century or so. Up until Trump’s win, I figured humans were headed towards a thousand years of slavery that would make the slavery of the Old South look like a walk in the park. (And I was glad I had no children because of that.)

NOW I see a lot of indications that ‘the bad guys’ are NOT having it all their own way. I doubt we will ever find out the complete story but I think Trump was the ‘Face’ of a group of ‘Good Guys’

Q looks like a psychological weapon aimed at the teen to 30 somethings. It was to train them to THINK and RESEARCH. To train them to REPLACE the controlled Mass Media.

General Flynn: “We have an army, an Army of Digital soldiers. But we are now what WE call, I call, Because this was an insurgency Folks. THIS WAS RUN LIKE AN INSURGENCY. This is irregular warfare at it’s finest. The time is now to recognize our obligation to the world. An Obligation to lead the world with unwavering integrity, renewed strength and unapologetic resolve.”

On top of that you have Elon Musk. He is the highest paid government contractor and has taken over Twitter — The World’s Town Square — AND he has millions of followers that he points towards interesting stuff written by that Army of Digital soldiers.

I will leave it at that for now.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

What I am seeing here is a LOT different (and a lot more sane) than what I used to see coming from you, which was full-on devolutionism, the theory that somehow Trump and the white hats hadn’t actually ceded control but were pulling strings behind the scenes (largely brought in from Kash Patel). Another way to summarize it is “This is all a movie.”

Has something changed?

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

IMO there is very little out there, of what most of this group (you, me, Aubergine, Gail) believe. To work as click-bait, it has to have the characteristics of “hope porn” – it has to leave open the idea that the good guys have more power and control than they really do.

The fact is, WE are their hope and power. But we have to calmly, strongly, and peacefully gain as much power as possible, before ANYBODY will begin standing up within the government.

Remember – a psy-op to motivate us to stand up isn’t going to show us a lot of down side too early or too strongly.

Gail Combs

Thanks for putting my thoughts into concise words.

We see glimpses and pieces but the MAJOR FACT IS YOU HAVE TO CONVERT/SUBVERT THE POPULATION FIRST and then you can win the ‘war’

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Documentary Description — Interviewer, G. Edward Griffin
https://cosmolearning.org/documentaries/yuri-bezmenov-interview-soviet-subversion-of-the-free-world-press-1984/

FULL INTERVIEW with Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion (1984). (1:21:28)

Barb Meier

I respect Yuri Bezmenov very much and shared his 1984 UCLA Lecture on Subversion. I shared a link to it on Twitter and it is probably my most liked post. Periodically, someone will like it again so these things travel and educate over time.

I don’t think we have to use the same tactics as the wannabee overlords and try to manipulate others. We just need to make the case of what is being done to us for people to see the connections themselves. The low number of people getting the shots tells us we are succeeding at getting the word out by the voices of many doctors and researchers, family of those harmed.

When I first saw Yuri’s lecture during the O presidency, I could already see what was being done to us by O was what Yuri described as subversion.

I also believe prayer matters a lot.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

There is something very cool embedded in what Yuri says in the written meme, which oddly connects to Jesus Christ, Donald Trump, Martin Luther King, Jr., Sun Tzu, Stalin, and others. That is the idea of “the enemy not perceiving you as an enemy”.

That is – in my opinion – both the goal and method of Christ’s command to love our enemies. As long as we are honest and realistic, then perceiving the “enemy” correctly is what truly matters – not necessarily perceiving them as an enemy.

The problem of the neocons is that they can never STOP perceiving another nation or people as an enemy – even when they’re WRONG.

Proper, truthful perception is what will steer one through difficult times. This is how we are pulling out of the “endless war” scam. Stalin’s take on socialism/communism was to avoid war by waging a kind of constant political war. Basically, the “cold war” was the communist strategy. But that doesn’t mean that one must oppose it. It may be a strategy that is smart to join.

Trump gets that war is stupid – but a nation needs to have that capability to deter others of bad intent. However, the KGB (and CIA) are correct in the idea that subverting and “enemy” is the cheap option – the easy way to fight – the “Sun Tzu” way to do things. But it’s also the Jesus way of doing things. The difference is purpose. Do you want only the best for your “enemy”? As long as the enemy is not Satan or his demons – as long as the enemy can be saved – then loving the enemy (correctly, of course) has a purpose that is real.

Thus, there is some level of subversion by others that doesn’t bother me. Russia and China doing things to influence us not attack them – that doesn’t particularly bother me. Doing things to make sure we cannot DEFEND ourselves from them – that bothers me, of course. In general, however, anything that works against TRUTH – sorry – I cannot support it. Anything that works against FREEDOM – same thing. But if the other side in a conflict wants to put truth out in public – well, it may be uncomfortable truth, but I believe it’s good. That’s one way that the Biden regime is screwing up, big time. They’re making PUTIN look smarter and more honest than Biden. Not smart.

Sometimes it’s worth looking at the other side’s propaganda and having an honest conversation with oneself. NATO over-expansion wasn’t just a broken promise – it was a bad idea. Half a million young Ukrainians died because of American dishonesty. That’s worth fixing and not doing again. Doesn’t matter which side you’re on there.

But the bottom line is that making the enemy not see you as the enemy – if it’s real and honest and actually helps your enemy – what’s so bad about that? Sounds like an operating principle of a functional world.

TradeBait2

^^^ This.

Never been a devolution fan. Would love to be proven wrong, doubt I will be.

As Wolf stated, We the People are the hope and power. Do the work at the local level and probe the system everywhere. Push it to the brink to where you win, get concessions, or expose the criminals for the world to see.

I agree it is a war. A war we must win. I believe there are elements within working to achieve the right things, but they need We the People to build the pressure nationwide.

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Barb Meier

I enjoyed the Neil Oliver piece that Sundance shared. He gets the magnitude of the war we are already fighting around the Western world.

TheseTruths

I need to finish writing my article(s) answering TheseTruths and SteveInCO.

Thanks for your efforts in doing that.

I have no problem with the idea that people needed to see how bad things could get before they would change their minds. That, IMO, is a universal truth that proves nothing, and I don’t need to see evidence of how people are turning around. A catalogue of events like that is not helpful, IMO.

I have no problem believing that Trump and his allies are doing everything possible to save this country. Some things are visible to us, like his policy plans for a second administration, and even legal matters that have set a precedent that would enable him to go after his persecutors in kind later, given the chance.

One issue I’ve had is with impossible theories, like Trump currently still being president with JB in the WH. Besides all the logistical barriers to such a scenario, it is unconstitutional, and Trump follows the law. It is a nonstarter that should have been discarded the moment it was broached, IMO.

Likewise, that an imposter is acting in JB’s stead, fooling everyone who has ever known him. Just no.

But the major issue I have with devolution as I understand it is the idea that Trump allowed the election to be stolen so the people would wake up. This manifests in any number of ways:
• Trump allowed the steal.
• Trump stood aside and let them steal the election.
• Trump held back so the people could see.
• Trump refrained from taking action after the steal.
• Trump failed to take action and allowed the stolen results to stand.
• Trump stepped back and allowed the consequences of the stolen election to play out.
• Etc., ad infinitum. There are many ways to say the same thing.

  :wpds_arrow:  My question, which no one has answered, is IF that is what happened, then what is it that Trump refrained from doing? If he allowed something, then he could have stopped it and caused the opposite thing to occur. So what was it that he could have done to stop it, that he didn’t do?

➡️ How could he have stopped the election fraud that cost him the election?
➡️ How could he have put things to rights after JB was declared the winner?

A lot of people seem to skip over that step and go straight to, “See, the people are waking up, and that’s why Trump let the election be stolen. He knew they had to see for themselves.” To them I say (politely 😊), “Prove it, please.” As I said before, the fact of their awakening is not proof that someone caused or allowed a stolen election to make them do so.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Spot on.

TheseTruths

👍🏼

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You and I are attacking this issue from slightly different angles (both of them good).

You have hit on something that I should have been hammering on for quite some time. The fact that some people seem to think that people “waking up” and becoming angry at the current situation, somehow proves that we got here through devolution.

Nope.

That’s a gigantic logic fail.

TheseTruths

Exactly. And it gets codified through repetition when people don’t question it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ve often complained that we live in a bubble here…and people get upset. But this is a prime example. Stuff gets repeated so much people just figure it wouldn’t be said so much if it weren’t true.

TheseTruths

My issue is that people don’t question things that are not logical, or that are even impossible. Bloggers and influencers say things that sound intriguing, and some people accept them without question and repeat them in many places, including here.

Q provided a sense of mystery and mastery, by which I mean (regarding mystery) that a lot of Q posts were cryptic but provided some insight, and they made us think, or helped us see, that (regarding mastery) there are forces working on America’s behalf behind the scenes and that those forces will not be defeated. I believe some people are trying to fill the void that Q left and that they are expounding on things in inaccurate ways. Many people eat it up because they like the intrigue and to feel that we, or people on our side, are in control.

All of that to say, yes, it can cause a bubble.

In Q812, Feb. 22, 2018, Q said to question everything.

They want you DIVIDED.

How can some be so blind?

Help them wake up.

Estimated 20mm reached.

Question everything.

Keep talking.

Stand up.

Fight, fight, fight.

How do they control children?

What prevents a child revealing the truth? Q

That should include what influencers and bloggers say.

In Q813, right after that one, Q says, “You are watching a movie.” That was specific to the context of posts at that time. We are now five and a half years out from that, and people are taking it so far out of context.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Q gets credit for getting (some) people to think, and analyze.

The problem is that some hang upon Q’s every pronouncement and try to analyze it as a prediction or a message, when at the very same time, asserting that much of what Q puts out there is disinformation for the benefit of the enemy.

This becomes another unfalsifiable thing. Whether or not the Q thing pans out, it can be interpreted as evidence that Q is “connected” and is on our side, because a thing that turns out false is either misinterpreted, or disinformation, and a thing that happens to turn out right, well, it’s clearly proof. (It’d be more impressive if it were consistent, but of course it’s not and the excuse is given.)

You can’t prove it wrong because ANY CONCEIVABLE EVIDENCE can be interpreted to support the hypothesis.

Another damn cult.

TheseTruths

And a lot of what I’ve seen posited as “evidence” is rife speculation and even invention. It wouldn’t qualify as evidence in any scenario that I can think of.

Gail Combs

Sundance says:

…People reviewing polls are starting to ask what is happening because the scale of Donald Trump’s lead over Joe Biden has never been more significant. One of the remarkable aspects to the 2024 RFK Jr effort is how people can see through the schemes now, and it looks like President Trump won’t even have to address Kennedy directly….

Given JFK Jr’s friendship with POTUS Trump and his suspicious death, I wonder if his cousin maybe joining forces with The Donald to take down the SOSC* who took out at least three members of his family.

You can also add in only 7% of adults are taking the new Clot Shot.

I think RFK jr is a major KEY to the “Great Awakening.” I think this is why he never was hired on to the Trump Admin and why he has been careful to pretty much stay away from Steve Bannon’s War Room. He instead sends surrogates like Naomi Wolf and employees of Children’s Health Defense.

People Like Dr Malone and Naomi Wolf can switch sides without doing very much damage to the Cabal. However a KENNEDY? A Kennedy whose Father, Uncle and Cousin got assassinated/suicided by the cabal? They can not use the usual circular smear tactics AND the petty crap the DemonRats are pulling — NO SECURITY, NO DEBATES… makes the DemonRats looks like children throwing a temper tantrum.

SOSC* = Sons of syphilitic camels

smiley2

bakocarl !

💟💞💖

thank you for the Blessings.

and the Wisdom.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Beware Orders From Beijing…..

Pay attention: NY AND California Dems just made “media literacy” a priority for all public schools. This is not organic. The reason for this has nothing to do with the media. This is what they did in Cuba. Communists took over the schools, then they used the trust paradigm in schools to fool young people into only trusting them. Everyone who opposed communists was framed as liars or dangerous, even parents. We’re absolute fools if we let this happen here. Get your kids out of these places before it’s too late.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gail Combs

From that tweet:

The Dunning-Kruger Effect is Autocorrelation

Have you heard of the ‘Dunning-Kruger effect’? It’s the (apparent) tendency for unskilled people to overestimate their competence. Discovered in 1999 by psychologists Justin Kruger and David Dunning, the effect has since become famous.

And you can see why.

It’s the kind of idea that is too juicy to not be true. Everyone ‘knows’ that idiots tend to be unaware of their own idiocy….

The Dunning-Kruger effect also emerges from data in which it shouldn’t. For instance, if you carefully craft random data so that it does not contain a Dunning-Kruger effect, you will still find the effect. The reason turns out to be embarrassingly simple: the Dunning-Kruger effect has nothing to do with human psychology.1 It is a statistical artifact — a stunning example of autocorrelation…

The article goes on to explain autocorrelation. It is SLOPPY SCIENCE in which you put a variable on BOTH SIDES so 5 = 5 or Z correlates with X when Z = X + Y and you are looking at the correlation of Z with X.

The article is well worth reading.

pgroup2

So what they’re saying is idiots know that they’re idiots?

Doesn’t that mean idiots in power are acting with malevolence towards those of us that aren’t idiots but also aren’t in power?

Because if that’s true, then love your enemies just got much harder.

Gail Combs

People who are not very bright usually KNOW it since life has a tendency to slap them in the face with the fact.

The maleviolent puppets in government are either BRIBED or BLACKMAILED. It is the ones BEHIND them who are truly evil.

And I for one am NOT about to forgive EVIL!

John Podesta’s Friend, Who ‘Debunked’ Pizzagate, Arrested for Raping Toddlers

As the Gateway Pundit reported, the former editor-in-chief of the far left news outlet, The Recount, Slade Sohmer was arrested for child sex crimes.”

On October 17, during a search at Sohmer’s residence in Otis, the Berkshire Law Enforcement Task Force confiscated a phone containing hundreds of child pornography images and videos, as per an affidavit presented in court. Among the disturbing contents, a video allegedly recorded by Sohmer of a minor being raped was found, according to Berkshire Eagle.

Some of the photographs, more than 1,300, and videos in Sohmer’s collection show kids as young as 3 or 4 years old.

Along with the photos, police also found text messages that were reportedly sent by Sohmer and shared details on how to kidnap and rape a child. Those troubling conversations, according to Berkshire Assistant District Attorney Marianne Shelvey, added “a level of extreme cruelty” to the case.

Shelvey told TheWrap that this is “one of the most egregious cases” she’s ever seen.

This ties into David Brock, and James Alefantis, the owner of Comet Ping Pong. Brock started Media Matters and Elon Musk and Texas AG Paxton are going after Media Matters.

GOOD TIMES!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

People who are not very bright usually KNOW it since life has a tendency to slap them in the face with the fact.

On the other hand I have met plenty who seemed blissfully unaware, and in fact would angrily argue against people who I know did have their shit together, way beyond their actual area of competence.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

On the other hand as I think about this, this tends to be, not from people in the lower half of the bell curve, but rather from many slightly to the right of the middle. They have the sense that they’re bright enough, and life doesn’t regularly slap them like you mentioned, but they just simply don’t realize that doesn’t make them as good as anyone else, in any other field. They end up telling other people how to do their jobs.

Gail Combs

Lacking in common sense among other things.

I worked in a small company where you would have a tough time not tripping over a PhD every time you turned around. Many could not believe someone WITHOUT a PhD could actually KNOW MORE on a subject that they did. I lasted 6 months…

GA/FL

Once again, BakoCarl – you posted just what I needed! Thank you for these wonderful devotions each Sunday. I look forward to them every week – as a feast for my hungry soul and spirit!

TradeBait2

Amen. Are they a treasure of what? They are greatly appreciated.

Jack Smith is a THUG

does anything stand out to you about this?
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Gail Combs

WONDERFUL WOMAN…. De Sanctamonius is an after thought.

As I have said before De Sanctamonius is an EMPTY SUIT LAWYER. SHE was in TV.

3369

08-Jul-2019 9:00:01 PM EDT

https://archive.md/20190708/https://twitter.com/SacksClark/status/1148394033926086656

The job of the media (90% owned by 6 corporations) is not to inform the public of TRUTH (using facts), but to con the public using falsehoods and opinion to paint a narrative that is designed to ‘keep the sheep in-line’ in order to maintain control and regain power.

PEOPLE AWAKE AND UNITED ENDS THEIR CONTROL (BRAINWASHING).

Q

If you do not like Q… 😜

Congressional Record, February 9, 1917 — J.P. Morgan interests buy 25 of America’s leading newspapers and insert their own editors

kalbokalbs

Not to mention, Chip Roy has yet to figure out the obvious.

Rob can NOT win the r-Con nomination. Let alone, the WH.

Chip Rot IS a Con Man. Look at me, making Big Noise, Headlines.

Chip Roy always, falls in line with Uniparty. Always. NOT MAGA.

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Jack Smith is a THUG

EXACTLY! who’s the candidate?
and i know that’s HER account with the pictures but they are primarily of her…she isn’t focused on him either

singingsoul1

No Ron wife is running for president?

Happy go lucky

“they are truly good and decent people” 🤬

he is implying Donald and Melania are NOT

kalbokalbs

Exactly.

Jack Smith is a THUG

right!

kalbokalbs

Cuz I am slow. I initially thought Chip Roy was now endorsing Mickey Haley.

Had to read it twice to see.

  • Clumbsy Chip Roy, drooling over Rob’s wife, while “endorsing” Rob.
Jack Smith is a THUG

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kalbokalbs

Facebook IS Un-American. Always has been.

Gail Combs

Commie Central gathering data on you for their Social Credit Score System.

pgroup2

Farcebook. What else would we expect?

kalbokalbs

This IS revealing AND timely. X’s show properly at GWP.

GWP

Patriot Lawyer DC_Draino Clashes with Republican Presidential Candidate Vivek Ramaswamy in Heated Debate Over Vivek’s Controversial Background
In an X post, DC_Draino posted: “Yeah I mean sure he:

  1. was affiliated with the WEF;
  2. took money from the Soros family;
  3. got rich in Big Pharma;
  4. does massive deals with Pfizer;
  5. pushed for masks, testing, and vaccines;
  6. thinks Mike Pence did the right thing on J6;
  7. thinks Trump is a liar about election fraud similar to Stacey Abrams;
  8. never voted most of his adult life;
  9. wants to re-enter TPP;
  10. wants uncapped immigration (if they’re educated);
  11. changes his positions weekly when called out.

But we should totally trust him to lead the MAGA movement b/c he called out Ronna McDaniel (like 99% of other Republicans have been doing for years).”

“Don’t disrespect your followers by lying to them like the MSM. The fact that you’re still sitting here saying I was ever “affiliated with WEF” is a pathetic lie. I’m the only guy who sued them & won, while others traveled to Davos,’” said Ramaswamy.

“I was the only candidate on stage with the stones to call on Ronna to resign, while others deflect. I won a generic scholarship, not massive George Soros loans/fundraisers like multiple other GOP candidates. I’ve never supported the government favoritism showered on Pfizer. If you have pent-up frustrations at others, then see a therapist but don’t dump it on me – because your shtick is getting old,” he added.

“1. You were listed on the WEF website and only sued to get off their website once you started campaigning. Thank you for confirming my original claim.”
“2. Thank you for confirming you took money from the Soros family.”
“3. I didn’t bring up Ronna, but I do appreciate you working with Benny to come up with that line of attack during the debate. If it weren’t for Benny’s debate prep, do you think you would’ve even mentioned it?”
“4. Your company Roivant entered into a massive licensing deal with Pfizer in December of 2022 while you were Chairman of the Board (you resigned in 2023). I noticed you didn’t deny this and cut our interview short on Candace’s podcast when I brought it up.”

“I also noticed you didn’t deny or even attempt to address issues 5 through 11, but that’s ok I know you’re a busy guy pretending to be America First while you try to drag us back into Obama’s TPP and flood our country with uncapped immigration (as long as they have college degrees of course).” DC_Draino responded.

Separate X.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/patriot-lawyer-dc_draino-clashes-republican-presidential-candidate-vivek/

TradeBait2

Love me some DC_Draino. The guy brings receipts when he makes a charge.

Never trusted the Swarmy from Day One. He’s playing everybody.

Aubergine

He is Obastard 2.0.

He is a made-for-politics by clowns in America pawn.

kalbokalbs

Obastard 2.0 <<< Fitting.

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Sunday, November 26, 2023

“The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.” 

Proverbs 28:1 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you for these. Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.

PAVACA

Wolf Moon and all, something ** interesting ** —

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/moderna-artificial-intellingence-anti-vaccine-narratives/
“Moderna’s ‘Disinformation Department’ Monitors 150 Million Websites for ‘Anti-Vaccine’ Narratives”
November 21, 2023

This department is run by Nikki Rutman, a 20-year veteran of the “Eff Be Eye.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

FASCINATING. And I know that we are on that list!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I read this site a lot, of course, and I can’t imagine why anyone would even think about the possibility that this site could be anti-vaccine.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

😝😆😜😄

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

“OH, NO, MASSUH OBAMA – WE AIN’T GOT NO ANTIVACCINE HERE, NO WAY, NO HOW!”

Brave and Free

Big Pharm Moderna and the gov team up for the usual disinformation. Everyone here already knows most of what’s discussed.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Xg3qYx05c3YJ:https://unherd.com/2023/11/moderna-is-spying-on-you/&hl=en&gl=us

PAVACA

Thank you for this. The Unherd video is also linked in the Children’s Health Defense article above.

No one should forget that Moderna and the NIH co-developed the Moderna modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine”, mRNA-1273, AND both share in the royalty payments for its use.
From what Yours Truly is able to find, the agreement between Moderna and the NIH extends to any other COVID-19 “vaccine” that Moderna develops — in that case, it would include the “latest” version, the “2023-2024 Formula COVID-19 Vaccine” by that company.

Brave and Free

The brainwashing of the youth continues, the accountability for their actions they don’t understand a guess. Their mistake of omitting truths will have dire consequences, a millstone comes to mind. Then again when you choose to overlook one I guess it’s easier to overlook the other.

https://www.westernjournal.com/betrayal-catholic-womens-college-will-admit-men-identify-women-cites-pope-justification/

Gail Combs

The book the pope follows is the Commie Playbook NOT THE BIBLE.

Brave and Free

This may be interesting to some (Steve) or not 🤷🏼‍♂️ who are mathematicians.

https://quantian.substack.com/p/losers-average-losers?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good deal! It actually helps to read this one FIRST, because then you know the results. There is an intuitive rationale for WHY “losers average losers”.

https://www.priceactionninja.com/what-does-losers-average-losers-mean/

Brave and Free
Jack Smith is a THUG

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Gail Combs

Didn’t they already try that and found out that MEME WAS FOR REAL?

Antifa Thugs Mess with the Wrong Town, Get the Beating of Their Lives

What is interesting is DailyKos and Wired have stories up saying it was all a ‘far-right-wing’ hoax.

And youtube of course has removed the video evidence.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I was able to find it through X !!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“We don’t need to follow them…they’ve had enough!” (From the video; might not be exact)

No they haven’t had enough. They’re still not maimed.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

barkerjim

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kalbokalbs

Above thought applies to All D-Rats and Pravda News, calling us racist, traitor or nazi….

Gail Combs

I really love that guy’s wit.

PAVACA

Wolf Moon
For the second time in the past 3 days, Yours Truly wasn’t able to access The Q Tree main site from Firefox or Chrome (computer) or from AT&T internet (cellphone) ad few minutes ago.
Just got back on from Firefox. Nothing from the phone yet.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I was frozen out too. Was writing a reply in the notifier and it spun. I highlighted and copied. Then reloaded the page and got a timeout.

Fortunately I had a copy in the buffer, so that when the site came back just now, I could reply (on the page) and paste.

PAVACA

SteveInCO
The Q Tree main site just got back on the phone.
Yours Truly wouldn’t be surprised to learn that this board is one of the 150 million sites that’s being “surveilled” by Moderna.

Aubergine

Surprised?

I would say you could count on it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I can confirm that this was due to an attack on our host.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes. This was due to an attack on our host.

Jack Smith is a THUG

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barkerjim

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Barb Meier

You could also ask someone who works at a restaurant or bar to save them for you. It’s a very cute birdhouse, but I wonder how you get the wine smell out.

Gail Combs

Burning Platform👆

Guest Post by Steve Kirsch

I was just contacted by this organization. So awesome that we now have a organization that will expose the people who spread misinformation, isn’t it?

Executive summary

The “Counter Disinformation Project” can be found here. On a typical story, they get around 1 like and no comments. So it’s super popular. 😉

They wrote a request asking me a few questions.

I’m using this Substack to answer them so you all can see what I said and compare it to how they twisted it for the hit piece that they are writing…

GO STEVE! Give’m hell!

barkerjim
Gail Combs

Excellent summary as I would expect from E.M.

TradeBait2

Well done.

para59r

Tommy is getting the business again. Then for some strange reason the cops play as if their way is being blocked.

para59r

Sure enough. Happening just the way Trump said. Thomas Jefferson statue being removed from NYC Hall after being there for 187 years.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

China-boot-licking Communist Scum.

para59r

New footage of Capitol Hill Police agitating Jan 6 people as they peacefully exit the Capitol.

para59r

New collage on J6 by DC Draino.

para59r

Punk gets punked.

pgroup2

They should burn BLM headquarters.

Gail Combs

Clintoon should never have pardoned the TERRORIST who is the BLM leader.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Dayum – that magazine that fell to the ground – dude had a gun!

para59r

Yesterday. Black Friday Sales errr.. whatever…

para59r

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Is Disney trying to make a come back?
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kalbokalbs

Yikes.

Serious junk in the trunk, top one.

Seriously funny, bottom one. OK, warped I am.

para59r
kalbokalbs

Nah, makes sense. Prolly gonna have a roof top ceremony. /s

Seriously now. Not quite sure what non-binary is. AND do NOT care to learn.

Tranny’s, non-binary, whatever the freaks think they are, I do NOT care, what happens to them.

kalbokalbs