Ground Report: HeartSong Resort – East TN Tourism

I thought it would be good to do a short follow-up from a BIMD on the American Songbird from 2022. We recently returned from wifey’s annual birthday retreat. Each year around this time since it opened in 2015 we go to the Dollywood properties in Pigeon Forge to stay in the Dreammore Resort hotel for a couple of nights. We pretend we are tourists since they generally go home after New Year’s celebrations until the week around Valentine’s Day. It is a time for the locals to catch their breaths.

However, this year we decided to stay at the new HeartSong Resort that Dolly and the Herschend Entertainment folks built a quarter mile up the ridge from Dreammore. It opened in November to much media fanfare such that we thought we would try it and compare to the Dreammore for future birthday retreats.

When we rolled into town last Sunday, we were very concerned. Why had all these people not gone home? We had gone to the early worship service at church and thought we could have a late breakfast near the resort. Everywhere we went was packed to the gills and traffic was bizarre for this time of year. So we found a Cracker Barrel whose parking lot was only half full to find it would be a 2 hour wait. For a CB quality meal that dog simply will not hunt as far as I am concerned.

We decided as Plan B to go to the well known Apple Barn/Farmhouse/Grill/Shops facilities and eat a fried apple pie for lunch to tide us over until dinner, which was booked for the main restaurant at the HeartSong.

We had better luck there and planned our return to the property the next morning for breakfast at the famous Applewood Farmhouse Restaurant. Visiting this “attraction” is well worth your time. Locals go to the various businesses in it all of the time and have for decades.

Fortunately, the next morning we woke up to a ghost town until about noon, when the locals started getting out and about. The vast majority of tourists headed home at some point on Sunday.

HeartSong Resort

After our Apple Barn visit we headed to Tanger Factory Outlet Mall for a few stores and then on to the HeartSong to check in. There are additional photos and details in the link below.

https://www.dollywood.com/HeartSong

This is the second completed property of five planned 300 room resort hotels on the land they operated adjacent to the Dollywood facilities. The remaining three hotels on the board are on the board to be built and opened over the next ten year or so. The financing package for it all has been pre-approved.

Based on staff comments, apparently Dolly has not been back on site since the announcements of the HeartSong opening back in the fall. They stated she was fully engaged in the design and decor throughout the construction process. She wanted Dreammore to reflect who she is as a person and the HeartSong to reflect the type lodging she likes to stay in when on the road. As a result the HeartSong is less about her story and life. It is mountain style elegant like may be found in a Colorado ski resort, yet, not pretentious. It obviously targets higher room rate paying customers with a much larger conference area among other amenities. It also may be an indication of where the ownership plans to go with future park, entertainment and amusements expansion as they move Dollywood and associated ventures toward operating year round.

We were very impressed with the facilities and lodging services. However, there are problems. Not enough to sink the ship, but enough to cause some leaks that need repaired as much as possible before tourist season kicks in fully again.

The primary restaurant meal preparation and service were not good, as in the food was not good and the service somewhat unprofessional. I doubt that it is what Dolly has in mind and I do not think it was just a bad day. Our entrees were specialties. They were not prepared well and the flavors were just bad. So much so we will not be going again unless there are major changes by this time next year. Which is disappointing because the Dreammore restaurant and service are very good and have been been consistently that way for the eight years they have been open. You do not have to stay on site to dine at their restaurants, which means locals and regional residents would frequent the restaurant if it was doing things well. In the parts of the three days we were there, there were next to no diners for breakfast or dinner. As it is the HeartSong will be missing a lot of business if they continue operating in this manner.

For a swanky hotel facility it is also noisy between the rooms. At $250-$600 a night plus taxes in and out of season in east TN, that will not work so well. The rooms, decor and bathrooms are nicely done, yet, they went cheap on noise deadening it appears. Not only could you hear the footsteps above, you could hear the water/sewage pipe flows when the toilet was flushed and shower used in the room above and next door. The Dreammore has lesser noise issues except from room HVAC units, which have been addressed with quieter units in the HeartSong. The room rate you pay is substantially less at the Dreammore.

The final negative observation is that there is not a lot of “Dolly” in the theme of the HeartSong resort. One big print of her on the stone fireplace in the lobby and that is about it. All of the rooms and common areas of the Dreammore have her theme and touch. I realize she wanted this one to be different, however, the reason people come to Dollywood and its resorts is about her and the life available to all us here in the mountains. With wifey having been a childhood and school friend of her as well as the family members, we were both a bit disappointed.

To improve things the restaurant needs better performing staff and chefs to go with some changes in the menu selection. As an example, four of the five desserts have some type of cream cheese in them. Many people do not care for cream cheese. Problems like that were present throughout the menu as they appeared to miss many targeted customers. An hour wait for my wife’s overcooked sweet tea prepped pork chop that could not be cut with a knife to go with the veggies she did not order is unacceptable. My shrimp, scallops, andouille and grits dish tasted like tomato paste gruel with only three shrimp and two scallops added. The shrimp had not even been peeled in the bowl with the rest of it. Each entree cost $35. People are not going to do that around here with a hundred other very good restaurants from which to choose. There were only three tables being served including ours that evening, so it was not because they were covered up with diners that it went so poorly.

The additional Dolly theming would be easy to remedy. The noise deadening is probably a SOL situation now that the construction phase is over. It always amazes me how architects and engineers miss that as well as contractors not strongly suggesting it to owners. Having financed hundreds of hotels and lodging facilities around the country through the years, my construction loan officers were instructed to always ask questions about it during the loan review process. It can make or break a lodging facility going for higher room rates. Management drilling down on guests to observe quiet time after midnight would help the HeartSong situation, but, human behavior is what it is and when you gotta go, you gotta go.

It has not been open long, but we now know for sure we will be staying at the Dreammore going forward. Will see what happens when #3 is built and comes on line. The road bed and utility infrastructure has already been completed for two of the three future facilities.

Jobs/Tourists

Here we are in the middle of winter and help wanted signs are everywhere when ten years ago many tourism related employers would lay off staff for a few months. The Cracker Barrel wait time was because they were severely short staffed, they could only seat half of the tables with only a couple servers working. It is the same everywhere with short staffs except at the established businesses that have taken care of their employees well in the past like the Dreammore and the Apple Barn related businesses. Excellent, friendly service and quality food prep by them from staff that have worked there for many years.

We noticed many more hispanics employed around the area than in years past. Some are recent arrivals based on obvious language barriers. Brandon is getting it done for the NWO.

There are four new large suite hotel properties under construction near the convention center and Cal Ripkin ballfields. That is about 750 more rooms coming online this spring in that one square mile area. When you add in the Cherokee nation’s burgeoning development at the primary Interstate 40 entrance/exit, the Wilderness Lodge Resort and waterparks growth in Sevierville, and continued expansion of many Gatlinburg resorts/businesses; well, things are changing rapidly around here. They all steal employees from each other. Newcomers moving here are generally employed within 48 hours of arrival if they want a job. The problem they have are finding reasonably priced housing or apartments within acceptable commutes.

However, I see very little thought going into what happens if the tourists stop coming, or if the economy tanks totally, or if there is nationwide civil unrest. Like many desirable places to live in the south, our paradise is in danger of being no more. It has already changed dramatically from continuing to chase the dollar.

But a country boy and gal will survive as we know.

Random Observations/Dolly Tidbits

I saw one young male woke employee of the Disney Store wearing a stylish cloth mask as he exited the store. Even with all of flu, COVID, RSV and colds raging everywhere. That was it. Saw probably more than a thousand people over the three days and two nights. One idgit wearing a mask was it. Coincidently, there were zero customers in the Disney store and it was fully stocked with their woke Chinese crap. Things must not be going so well for them.

In general, workers in the retail stores and restaurants were outgoing and friendly. People seemed happy in general. We visited with many visitors for a few moments everywhere we went. It was pleasant experience. Which is 180 degrees the opposite of our recent trips to Costco in the urban Knoxville area. Some of the rudest people we have ever encountered were there who would just as soon run over you than look at you with their cars in the parking lot or carts in the store.

The Trump Stores and Trump merchandise sections in other stores are doing really well.

The inventories in most of the more popular retail stores including factory outlets we visited were generally very low. It is not because of Christmas purchases per workers. It is a clear indication that supply chains are still messed up combined with management expecting an economic downturn in consumer buying so they are keeping stocks lower. With it being so tourist oriented, this area is usually hot for retail year round with half the nation’s population located within a day’s drive. We have not seen stores stocked so low this time of year in recent memory. Going to keep an eye on it.

Our server at the Dreammore’s main restaurant told a funny thing on Dolly. All Dollywood employees are instructed by management during company meetings to not try to strike up conversations with her when she visits because Dolly will lose all sense of time and stop to talk to anybody who wants to talk. 🤣 Sounds about right to us. Management then gets frustrated because her schedule is usually tight and the “visiting” messes it up. Oh well.

Guests can now rent her retired tour bus to stay in overnight that is parked in a fenced area on site at the Dreammore. So with the right amount of cash, you can sleep in Dolly’s bed. Just sayin’…

Dolly is spending more time at home with hubby, Karl. He turned 80 recently, does not get out anymore and has difficulty communicating. Turns out she told everybody he never liked country music, he has always been a classic rock guy. Stairway to Heaven is his favorite song. However, when Dolly did her recent rock album, he gave her his approval. That seemed to please her more than anything.

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TheseTruths

Interesting report! I would think there would be decades of data on how to (and how not to) manage a restaurant, so it must come down to the people who are put in charge and whether they care about quality.

WSB

We are in a collapse.

There is no other way to describe this.

I have worked in the hospitality industry for decades. Staffing is 90 percent of success. there is no way to fake it. And I work in the design portion of the business. Nothing compares to management, chef and servers.

WSB

PS Could barely stomach the 60 Minutes report on the collapse of the commercial real estate market in NY, tonight. The staff was attempting to tell us that residential conversion was occurring.

One man actually said that pickle ball courts could be developed in the high-rises in Manhattan.

If you know how expensive converting office space into residential space is, it is unattainable. So, a pickle ball court on the 20th floor of an office building…recommended on 60 Minutes?

Tells you what a fake 60 Minutes has always been.

WSB

PPS we CAN convert office buildings into residential buildings if we just gift sleeping bags. The floor to floor HVAC will be fine. And…

the illegal aliens will have group Men’s and Women’s rooms to wash up in. If they can figure out which sex/gender they are.

para59r

Too bad about “Heartland”. Nothing a good manager can’t fix though. Hopefully just working the kink out of it. Should be better by the next time your ready to visit.

Had to look it up. So for the “9 to 5” crowd, its $10,000 for two nights on the bus. “All profits going directly to Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library, which has given more than 200 million books to kids all around the world since 1995”. Has to add, but can’t be sure, that it looks like the bus is parked a parking lot, which might be kind of strange if your staying there and people are poking about.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/dolly-parton-home-wheels-turned-10000-dollar-hotel-suite (story/vid/pics).

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WSB

Well, THAT’s weird.

WSB

That nuts. Has Dolly gone to the dark side?

Barb Meier

I wonder if they have a DEI (DIE) management type involved? Shooo fly, if so. Great ground report, TB!!

My home went on the market for sale on Friday, so now it is time to keep everything tidy, fix any little thing I am able, and pray for a good new shepherd for this home so I can move close to family. The closing for my home must be by March 15th of this year. Ambitious, yes. Possible, yes.

Where I have lived on my own for the last 15 years; I commuted 50k miles each year for 11 of those years, commuted 25k for 3 years, and worked from home the last year:

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2114-E-Lee-Hwy_New-Market_VA_22844_M59658-99331

I thought to leave up my two small Trump yard signs because my next-door neighbor said she hopes for a good new neighbor. Honestly, a good neighbor should be able to see that in 2024 we must decisively elect Trump. My wonderful young realtor lady–a positive go getter who says we only need one buyer–did not mention the signs to me at all.

The house I picked (and have a contingent contract on) seems perfect for me. I can live entirely on the main floor. Instead of a view of the valley and mountains, it has a view of the Mississippi River, the barge and private boating traffic, and just across the river, Missouri about an hour south of where I was born and raised. Most of my family is there. A little town just north of there is where my dad was born and raised on a small dairy farm. There’s a little cemetery I used to stop at on my way to visit my mom and dad. My dad’s parents and two brothers are buried there, so I can leave flowers for them again.

If all goes well, the house where I will move to:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/25-Brickyard-Dr-Golden-Eagle-IL-62036/2086534545_zpid/

To get to the new home, I would take a ferry. How great is that?! I can just see looters bringing their ill-gotten gain across the river on the small ferry. Somehow that suits my solitary tech writer/editor lifestyle fine.

Across the river is St Charles, MO a nice suburb of St Louis as I remember. Hope it has not been ruined by interlopers. I have a few family members living on the Illinois side, and yes, I know IL is one of the more corrupt states. So if this plan A works, I will think of myself as a reinforcement.

If my older brother (or other family) visits, they can come upstairs with me or stay downstairs and enjoy the fully finished basement with bedroom, bath, kitchenette, and living/dining area. They can go out the sliding glass door and down the hill to fish for catfish.

Some of my cousins have boats and could visit me without driving on the highways! They would go from their boat docks either to the small beach in front of (and down hill from) my place or where ever the HOA approves for boaters to land. I have yet to get the memos on that, but I am sure they will make that clear. They will also take care of my yard, roof, and septic, IIRC.

My new house is in the bluffs a little above the flood plain but 400 ft altitude should be enough that not needing flood insurance seems reasonable. After I started a private Facebook group, a cousin asked if I knew her younger sister also lives in Golden Eagle. I had no idea, but Patty and her family live higher on the bluff. They even had a contract on the house I do now but it was contingent and another buyer came along before they could close, so they picked another home with an even better view of Missouri.

All prayers for a smooth transition appreciated. Even if it is not smooth, I’m on my way to downsizing and getting closer to family.

Barb Meier

Thank you for the prayers, TB!! One of my nurse cousins lives in Columbia with her engineer hubby. They are both retired now. Another cousin went to Mizzou and was an elementary school teacher with such funny stories about the little ones.

I was born in Troy a little northwest of STL and my parents moved us to Louisiana, MO when I was about a year old.

Louisiana is actually north of where I might live. I probably wrote that backwards. My parents stayed there the rest of their lives and I was there until going to college at Warrensburg MO. St Louis has some great Italian food but I don’t know the names of restaurants. DePat will know.

Louisiana has a bridge to IL and a new bridge was recently built to replace the old one. It also has a train bridge across that was there during Mark Twain’s years. It’s about 40 minutes to Hannibal and a little more up to Quincy, IL. There are some very interesting homes in Louisiana, but it can be years before any one of them goes up for sale. My uncle Al used to work for the railroad, opening/closing a span of the train bridge to let through the barge and train traffic.

All this started because I saw one that cost a little more, but looked right for me too in Louisiana. Before I could get through the preapproval paperwork, it was sold the same day I first saw it. Things happen for a reason, so I looked more widely and found this gem.

I have extended family all around that area. While there are no mountains, there are lots of nice hills and the rivers.

Barb Meier

You’re welcome. I so appreciate the moral support and positive waves.

WSB

Wow, Barb. What an eye opener. TY. I seem to have a similar mirror.

Barb Meier

TY, WSB. That is a pretty mirror on the stair’s wall in the new place. The ceiling lights are ones I’ve admired in past years too. If all goes well, I thought to put my small work desk in the living room facing the wall of windows instead of in the small office. Why buy a place with a great view and only look at walls when you’re working.

Deplorable Patriot

So, you’ll be up on the River Bend?

Across the river is St Charles, MO a nice suburb of St Louis as I remember. Hope it has not been ruined by interlopers.

Actually, when the 2023 crime rate reports came out, St. Chuck had a sharp increase. The city and county had drops. It was quite the shock for the people out there.

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Barb Meier

Yes, the river bend looks right on the map. The Mississippi curves around from east/west and starts going north/south just west of Golden Eagle. Sorry to hear of the sharp increase. The ferry seems like a buffer. I’m selling here with an open house this Sunday. If I can close by March 15th, then I should also close on the Golden Eagle property the same day. If the contingent contract falls through, I’ll still sell asap and move to the area. I’d like to stay out of the STL metro area and be in one of the smaller towns in Warren, Lincoln, or Pike Counties in MO or perhaps as far north as Hannibal.

Golden-Eagle-IL
Valerie Curren

What an adventure! May the Lord guide & direct you every step of the way, opening & closing doors according to His Will. God Bless YOU Richly in all these endeavors!

Barb Meier

Thank you, Valerie! You are so kind and that is exactly what I hope for… to know the way God wants me to go and to be brave and strong enough to do these things. I am praying each day.

Valerie Curren

I have no doubt that He will lead you through the process & hopefully smoothly!

I checked out your zillow listing & it’s a lovely place to be sure. One thing I noticed is that it has Electric heat. If this ends up being your home you might want to look into the possibility of having gas which is more economical, though that might not be a concern to you 🙂

I really hope you enjoy the journey  😇 

Barb Meier

Valerie, thanks for the head’s up and best wishes! There is a gas fireplace but it is rural and I think that may mean propane. I thought I saw a small propane tank beside the house, but it looks the size of a BBQ grill tank. I’ll check once I’m there.

Valerie Curren

OK. I really hope everything goes so smoothly for you with all of these moving pieces (pun not intended) 😉 Blessings!

kalbokalbs

GREAT post. That home!!! Very nice. Such a wonderful location. Hope it all comes together for you! Two months should be plenty of time. Trump signs a bonus. 🙂

Barb Meier

Thank you, Kal!! I’m starting to get MLS search analytics from my selling realtor every Monday, plus she made a website for my home. This data is encouraging because 42 buyers using MLS previewed my home and of those, 26 buyers saved it.

I’m impressed with Nest Realty though I have not checked to see if they are a national realtor or local. I also have a American flag up and that’s a bonus too. 🤗

kalbokalbs

FWIW. In my ongoing search, I always note, positively an American Flag flying. Trump flag or sign a bonus. 🙂

Gingersmom2009

Yes, just flying the flag tells you everything you need to know. 👍🏻

Gingersmom2009

Wow those are two lovely homes! So nice to see some beautiful aesthetics. 👍🏻

Barb Meier

Thank you, Gingersmom! You are so kind. The house I live in now is my first home that I bought in my early 50s in July 2008, right before the economic collapse that year became evident to normies like me. I knew something was wrong, but until friends like TradeBait made BIMD clear, I didn’t know what went wrong and how to fix it. I never dreamed I would live in a house this pretty and I’ve thanked God for his blessings many times. He gave me the strength to make the long commute to the city for 11 years to “earn city money” to bring back to this rural area and take care of this big house, my two dear Westie dogs, and now my two little kitties. The chance to move to another very nice home much closer to all my family is unexpected, but another blessing to praise God for.

Barb Meier

  

Gingersmom2009

So well said. 👍🏻

barkerjim

Thanks for another look at Eastern Tennessee.

WSB

Tradebait2,

So loved reading your assessment of your stay.

Having 40 years of hospitality design under my belt, I was so alerted to your review.

Reading your assessment and looking at the resort itself, I immediately see that “Dolly” is not a part of this development at all.

Nothing. It’s all fake. Corporate.

A shame.

WSB

And PS, you are so correct about staffing.

There is no equation without schooled management. None.

WSB

Oh my. Spelling.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent ground report! Thank you for this.

OMG, that vaccine. We are suffering similar local problems that I can’t get into, but it’s the damn vaccine taking out loyal workers who wanted to stay with the job, and now they’re dead, on disability, get sick more often with COVID, get sick more often with everything else, have cancer or immune issues, can’t work the long hours, and hundreds of other, similar problems. This has caused so many problems here.

MILLSTONES. Mandate Brandon and his friends. Millstones.

WSB

Wolf, as you have written, we are experiencing something worse.

Barb Meier

Wolf and WSB, prayers for us all. I can barely wrap my head around the intentional evil done to so many.

WSB

Barb, we are all right here.

Barb Meier

WSB, you all are like family and I feel blessed to have found you.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you! We cannot trust these people. They are cooking up the next level of evil, and I think it’s going to be very, very bad. We have to be smart, as a group, to beat them.

Barb Meier

I agree, Wolf. What has happened to the world has woken up people around the world. We are seeing some positive results in elections (most recently Taiwan) and people standing up for their God-given freedoms. We cannot give an inch.

kalbokalbs

Elephant in the room, syndrome.   :wpds_evil: 

kalbokalbs

Great ground report. Thoroughly enjoyed reading this. Thanks.

“So with the right amount of cash, you can sleep in Dolly’s bed.”

Right up there with, “My wife slept with Dolly”. Or sumthin like that.Heartsong seems like a nice go to, for DW and I. Hope to get out that way later this year

Likely after Labor day some time.

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kalbokalbs

Good to know. Thanks.