20200318: Dear CoronaVirus/ COVID-19/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19 threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to include your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations on these COVID Daily Threads. Additionally, within these Daily Threads, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

Trump meeting with tourism industry from yesterday: Transcript found here = https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-remarks-by-president-trump-in-meeting-with-tou-1842384687

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

michaelh

Marco Rubio: “STOP SPREADING DISINFORMATION!”
Sorry . . . couldn’t resist 😉

pgroup

So patience is a virtue?
What did one vulture say to the other vulture?
“Patience hell, I’m going to go kill something.”

Sadie Slays

Never one to let a crisis go to waste, the vultures at the Red Cross are once again begging for blood and money. They do this every time there’s a major disaster. Here’s your reminder that the Red Cross pocketed many millions of dollars in donations from 9/11 and Haiti and never used it to help the victims. Here’s your reminder that the Red Cross “lost $5 million in funds meant to fight ebola.” and Red Cross boxes of money were then found in Africa years later. Here’s your reminder that Q hinted the Red Cross is involved in much worse than mere scamming people out of money:comment image
Folks, if you feel called to donate blood, then donate directly to your local hospital. Give them a call and ask how to donate directly. Cut these sick middlemen out.

https://youtu.be/GhRq0Sj6fOM
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/nov/03/red-cross-outraged-over-pilfering-of-ebola-aid-millions-by-its-own-staff

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Even better, give to Samaratin’s Purse. They’ve already sent a response team to help Italy.

Chris

++++ !!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

spam bin!

kinthenorthwest

Now I do give to an organization likr Samaratin’s purse..They are always in the middle of all disasters.
Overhead salaries are really low.

Deplorable Patriot

The big reason the Red Cross is running short, I would imagine after having done a stint in donor services YEARS ago, is that with the high schools closed, their best source of blood has, ahem, dried up. That’s where they get GREAT donation numbers before people have traveled, have developed health issues, etc. High schools always made their quota.

Deplorable Patriot

Most of the people in my family have relatively rare blood types. I mean, only one person has O+ and he has an artificial heart valve, so he’s out. BUT, all of us are screened out due to being out of the country for too long, anemia, high blood pressure, other health issues. I can’t due to having been out of the country for collectively more than six months.

kinthenorthwest

Sorry but Red Cross is one of the organizations I refuse to donate to,..
Their overhead salaries is like 3/4s of their donations
I don’t donate to any organization that uses most of my money for salaries.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Andrew Torba on Gab:
https://gab.com/a/posts/103841984757943346
Andrew Torba
Verified Account
@a
Silver linings:
-Borders closed
-Parents at home with their kids
-Homeschooling on the rise
-Abortions halted
-Gun purchases soaring
-Hollywood losing billions
-Preppers regarded as geniuses
-People are praying again
-Globalism is canceled
-TrumpBucks incoming
Mar 17, 2020, 23:42 · Web · 2 · 5

para59r

Baby Boom on the Way! add after Abortions halted.

Deplorable Patriot

And, it does occur to me being from the private school sector where many parents are mega involved with their kids’ learning, this is an opportunity for public school parents to get a good look at what is being taught their kids with assignments having to be completed at home. And if you don’t like it, organize and do something at the school board level. It happens in the private schools all the time.
Although, my guess is this will all be the same as my mom always talked about when it came to parent/teacher conferences. The parents she didn’t need to see always showed up, and the ones she did need to see were rarely around. And this was in an expensive, all-girls school.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Private schooling is an investment in kids. Most people don’t see that “free” always has a catch – or MANY catches.

Deplorable Patriot

Public schools aren’t cheap. The difference is that private schools you see the cash disappear.

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NYGuy

Well 4chan is not a singular entity. Some posters there predicted it and who knows who they could have been.

MAGA Mom

Wow! where is this? Our costco wasn’t nearly like that although it was packed!
Yep, we “preppers” per se but today when we saw TP, we could leave it there for others in our little town because we are ok. Thought ahead a little and have a little buffer on what we need. Don’t have everything we wish we had thought of but we are fine enough.

MAGA Mom

CA – thanks, I am looking and still don’t see that in the post. Good thing I have smart friends! 🙂
When San Fran went on total lock down yesterday we figured it wouldn’t be long before LA did same.
Guess all of CA has now been warned and see their future coming at them fast.
In LA and San Fran are they still allowed to go to the grocery stores?

cthulhu

As of this moment, we are allowed to go to grocery stores.
We’re actually allowed to do carry-out or drive-through in an attempt to show that the state isn’t just killing restaurants.

michaelh

Wow, I didn’t know that Costco was holding a Trump rally!

Deplorable Patriot

There’s prepping, and then there’s people like a late client (she passed away about a year ago) who used to go to Target, etc., on the “you get a $5 gift card if you buy XX days, and would buy 5-6 cases of Charmin, and seriously anything on sale, just because it was on sale. I used to joke with her husband about her prepper kit in the garage.
Personally, I like a few extra things in the freezer, a couple of batches worth of chili ingredients in the pantry, and always buy paper goods in bulk not for any reason other than it’s easier to go to Walmart once a month or once every two than constantly running out.
These people are crazy. So long as the trucking industry is running, the resupplies will happen. That stuff is all made here.

Deplorable Patriot

That woman would buy five cases of Charmin, and a lot more, just to get a $50 gift card, is what I meant to say. She wasn’t hoarding or prepping for that purpose. She wanted the free money, and, yeah, she was a flaming liberal, although a fair one. I mean, when I told them about The Great Awakening being taken down. this couple thought the move was downright wrong. We are entitled to free speech, even if we disagree. That was heartening.

rayzorbak

Modern day “Breadlines”?
Burny will be proud!

kinthenorthwest

Damn—And one is supposed to stay way from crowds Crap…oh my good Lord.
Where I live we are now saying support your local businesses, especially small town ones.
Found they are doing better with no crowds and do have what I need.

MAGA Mom

WuFlu is growing … hopefully slow enough that our medical system won’t be overwhelmed and slow enough that our fed, state and local gov are prepared.
As of now, US 115 deaths/106 recoveries…6,288 active cases yet to be determined
(making that 6,509 total cases diagnosed)
Long Ground report:
Because I read here I knew the WuFlu was coming for weeks but I hesitated to say anything in my leadership role in regional GOP as I didn’t want to seem alarmist or ridiculous when there were only a handful of cases back in Feb. But last week, it was spreading and time to act. Canceled, but not really…I announced rescheduling. Having the dates rescheduled seems to have been better for people’s attitudes and hope v. just canceling and saying “who knows when…”. We also have are moving to some online speakers. Trying to keep up the usual pattern/rhythm and involvement, some normalcy, just changing a bit. Trying in my own little way to keep up morale and use the time wisely and seem to be active even if we are all at home.
Traffic on highway yesterday and today lighter than normal. Rush hour “crush” didn’t happen, no bottleneck. We were on the highway in Middle TN and sailed through the area of the usual bottleneck at 5:30 pm.
Local businesses, hourly manual labor employees, families in which both parents work but now have children out of school indifferently…all concerned, worried, stressed.
Wanted a few things from Costco yesterday. Husband was going to stop in after work as usual but I highly recommended he work from home starting early in the am and then go into the office mid morning, stopping by costco on the way in. Turns out, that was the right thing to do. Parking lot Packed and huge lines for 10 am opening. Chicken almost Gone which was the reason for that costco run – we wanted 4 whole chickens for our meat this week so we could also make broth to help stay healthy. Anyway, many things were 1 to a customer and no bathroom tissue to be had but we weren’t there for that anyway. Salsa, Chicken and some organic potting soil for our garden starters … got everything we wanted. But Had to be there early or chicken would have been gone
Local traffic was light in the Nashville area both today and yesterday except at the grocery stores. office building’s parking lots were 2/3s full and often almost empty.
Chiropractor’s office has many rescheduling. Going to offer Early hours to elderly patients, pre opening so they are first in, no other staff, etc.
Grocery stories are well shopped – low stocks. Our local, little, rural town grocery did have bathroom tissue but not much. Local, rural grocery stores weren’t really hard hit until the last 4 – 5 days.
Except for stocking up on food, etc., people are staying home. Good! Slow the spread of this virus to a manageable rate of growth. Tough but it has to be done
Have a relatives in CA who are liberal and didn’t “get” what was happening. sending a care package tomorrow. they are on total lock down. Care package will be mostly bathroom tissue. Said they were running low but ordered a bidet attachment that would arrive soon and help. They have much more $ than we do but there is no place to buy or order what they need. More $ doesn’t always = common sense! Glad we are in TN.
We are glad to be in the country and not near areas that will riot/become an issue if supply lines are disrupted. So glad we moved out!
I have been pleased at so much voluntary cooperation by private citizens. I have been pleased that President Trump has been judicious with fed power, working with and encouraging local, state gov to act was well as businesses and private individuals – just as it should be.
On the other hand, as much as I think it was misguided and that every person in those bars and business was absolutely foolish, I was a secretly proud of Nashville businesses resisting shutting down initially…gotta stay aware and thinking…
Personally, I had a sore throat last Thurs and throw EVERYTHING at it – the Big Guns of teas, essential oils and tinctures. Had some congestion last night and did same. Probably neither are anything and I over reacted. All of the health helpers were good but might have been to use them when/if we Really need them. But how do we know when we “really” need them until we are very sick and wish we had started sooner?
We stopped All going out…except to doctor (chronic pain can’t be ignored when it flares!), grocery and work as needed. Have worn mask to costco and other stores except local, rural stores as that would have Freaked them out. Husband got snickers, lots of side looks and snide remarks a week ago when he wore it in costco but yesterday there were more people wearing them so he wasn’t the only one any more.
Son goes nowhere. He stays in the car. This is Hugely disappointing for him because he wants to wear his mask so we let him in the car and he gets double takes. Its his way of having fun. The whole situation is unsettling for him and stressful much less disappointing as an only child to see all actives disappear. Also, because we have been aware of it since January, he saw us prepare, discuss and change our behaviors. Stressful for a child.
Now that we are settling into a new routine, I am going to start taking proactive action to address his social needs. He plays chess via chat/messaging with friends. Going to try to set up some FaceTime for chess. Piano lesson tomorrow via FaceTime. Not as good but at least it is something to keep some structure and make some progress in piano. Dad is spending extra time with him for martial arts – going to surprise his teacher with his improvement when he gets to go back. He has a goal of being advanced to …. well whatever, I don’t know the martial arts, but point is that he is making goals. Might sign him up for some online classes just for the socializing. other ideas???
We will keep doing the best we can and remember, that no matter what we do we can’t make everyone happy:

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Looks like Eric Holder’s evil soul incarnate!

kalbokalbs

Triplets…Jessie Jackson. IF not related by blood…they are each evil.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Jesse Jackson! Wow, is that one left idol with feet of clay. The monetization of racial accusation, censure, and forgiveness, all wrapped up in one persona.
The thing is, the MEDIA taught him that little game. And this leads back to the FAKE NEWS and why they are so guilty. COVID-19 is teaching me that the MEDIA’s apparent inconsistency and hypocrisy is anything BUT. They are now the CHURCH of socialism which grants forgiveness and indulgences to those who confess sin or have plans to commit and offer to give the STATE a CUT.
But they are also into education – very subtly – whereby they teach people to sin – then teach people that the sin is wrong – then teach people the new acceptable way – to be declared a sin if necessary, in the future.
Every communist writing about media was the assembly of their battle plan.
ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE. Only watch enough to TEAR IT DOWN.

Deplorable Patriot

The number of people I know who consider the WHO and CDC their “go to” sources for information is really an indication of just how brainwashed these people are.

michaelh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDVT-8tUfiEcomment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is the big tweet! VERY BIG. JFK reference and China and ChiCom-19 all over it!!!

coosmama

And on 17 Day 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Qth of March!!!

Alison

Makes me wonder if that’s why CNN’s Dana Bash and MSDNC’s Joe Scarborough each said one nice thing today about POTUS.
At some point, wouldn’t a Nat’l Emergency allow feds (Trump) to commandeer more airtime? How’s that any different than commandeering a factory to manufacture a specific product.
We are at war. WWIV per Michael. Let’s declare it and fight.

Alison

You are SO right, Daughn. Reimburse all the business & job losses. Reading that transcript Tuesday (at SD’s) about POTUS meeting with CEOs from hotel industry was heartbreaking. They are down to virtually 10% occupancy or closed (Las Vegas) and say they must retain their employees to be able to ramp up again if & when virus goes away.

Deplorable Patriot

I would be so grateful. I’m out $250 in gigs in the next few weeks due to this virus.

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michaelh

Coronavirus turns deadly when it leads to ‘cytokine storm’; detection is key to patient survival
Posted Mar 16, 12:16 PM
By Douglas Perry | The Oregonian/OregonLive
https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-turns-deadly-when-it-leads-to-cytokine-storm-detection-is-key-to-patient-survival.htmlcomment image

Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus that has swept across the globe, is not like a bad case of the flu.
For one thing, a new study indicates that Covid-19 triggers in some people something called a cytokine storm, where one’s own immune system goes berserk. This “virus-activated” immune response can be deadly, causing severe respiratory distress and the subsequent shutdown of multiple organs.
Indeed, how one’s immune system reacts appears to be central to Covid-19′s severity.
“The virus matters, but the host response matters at least as much, and probably more,” University of Iowa virologist Stanley Perlman told The Scientist magazine last month.

For some people whose immune systems are compromised by age or for often-subtle genetic or environmental reasons, the normal immune response doesn’t retreat when it should. It goes into overdrive, leading to “a flood of immune cells into the lung.” This has a rapid cascading effect in the body.
Key to the patient’s survival is their doctors quickly recognizing this is happening. Dr. Randy Q. Cron and Dr. W. Winn Chatham, in a report for Vox, wrote that —

All Covid-19 patients sick enough for hospitalization should be given a cheap, quick, and readily available serum ferritin blood test. Indeed, elevated serum ferritin values have recently been reported in Chinese hospitalized patients with Covid-19. This is a good first screening tool for the possibility of a cytokine storm syndrome in sick patients with high fevers.
The question then remains how best to treat a cytokine storm syndrome once it is identified. The treating physician is often placed between a rock and a hard place. Corticosteroids can be powerfully broad immunosuppressive agents, and they are inexpensive and readily available throughout the world. However, it can be frightening for a physician to treat a severely ill, infected individual with such powerful and wide-ranging immune suppression.

Cron and Chatham pointed out that there are other, more targeted drugs available as well, though trials will be needed to figure out which ones work best for Covid-19.
In China, coronavirus patients exhibiting signs of cytokine-storm syndrome reportedly are being treated with the anti-inflammation drug Actemra (tocilizumab). Actemra is used in the U.S. for rheumatoid arthritis.
— Douglas Perry

michaelh

Some notes:
Elderberry, Tylenol, and anti-inflammatories like Advil or Motrin all make the symptoms of COVID 19 worse. They cause something called a cytokine storm.
It’s being treated overseas with large doses of Vitamin C.
Baobab powder, from the Baobab tree in Africa. Or more commonly the “Tree of Life.” Obviously not the tree referred to in the Garden of Eden, BUT it has amazing health benefits and even has a huge hollow trunk that animals take refuge in during storms.
benefits of mct oil
Medium Chain Triglycerides
By Serene Allison
https://trimhealthymama.com/benefits-of-mct-oil/?fbclid=IwAR39Fd6dEcv9SWpPeaQHP2rfHcvQbsnfNu9orS5aJ8QvKfsbd6L8EovcsRw

TakeBackOurRepublic

Do you have a source link for why those things (elderberry, Tylenol, Advil, Motrin) make COVID-19 worse?

TakeBackOurRepublic

Okay, thanks!

michaelh

I have the link above. Trying to find more confirmation. This came via social media from a woman who has been doing her own research because her husband has MS.

TakeBackOurRepublic

Thanks, I’ll check it out. I did a little of my own research and read that taking anything that boosts immunity has the potential to cause a cytokine storm syndrome (an immune system over reaction) to COVID-19. It seems contraindicatory to me so I’ll need to research further.

coosmama

EGCG in bitter green tea (ref 3/17/20) article S.Korea is treating with zinc and green tea, inhibits cytokine storms. This article is regarding EGCG and OA/RA. A little weedy, but good info on how it increases antioxidants, decreases inflammation.
Elderberry is helpful for most people, esp with flu A or flu B. But if no improvement in symptoms after day 3 of the Chinese Virus or if you are risk for cytokine, then stop using it. We still take it twice daily, every day.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3146294/

coosmama

On pgs 29-30, it does discuss decreasing iNOS (nitric oxide), which is good for joints but bad for Chinese Virus, so this may be another reason why IV Vit C is being used.

coosmama

Cytokine info pg 24, addresses TNFa and IL-1.

coosmama

Michaelh, there is a difference between “cause” and “could cause”. Please keep this in mind. You are bringing in great info to the boards, very much appreciate your work!
Folks, please remember that it is called “Practicing the Art of Medicine” for a reason. Not everything is going to work 100% of the time for 100% of the people out there. Just the way it is. There are no absolutes in medicine, except for no absolutes!

pgroup

What is with you doing truth telling? Don’t you know this country runs on rumor, gossip and innuendo? Get with the program.
/s

Aubergine

My logical mind is seriously questioning whether this could be accurate.
IF Chinese Virus mortality is caused by a severe over-reaction of the immune system, WHY is it killing off the elderly and immune compromised? Wouldn’t it kill off the young, with healthy immune systems?
The 1918 flu actually killed the younger population, which is why is was so notable. The people with the strongest immunities died.
In this case, however, it is the elderly and infirm.
This is not passing the “Aubergine logic” test. If you have a strong immune system, it appears the Chinese Virus presents as a mild cold. If you have a poor immune system, you can die.
This guy is a journalist, not a physician.

Gudthots

I don’t believe those numbers because I object to some of their assumptions.
Also, I believe his angle is promoting a vaccine solution while ignoring alternative pathways to fighting this virus..
There are many important developments around self-care, nutrition, off-label use of existing drugs, even recognizing different responses for different blood types. The best and brightest are exploring hundreds of ways to fight this.
Jordan has covered the use of MMS and taken some heat for it. From my own experience and research I think he knows what he’s talking about. I’ve used MMS myself some years ago. It’s a bit harsh, but there are studies that indicate is would work for this virus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMZJ8bbLj9k

Gudthots

Looks like the search algos on YouTube are allowing MMS videos to appear!
Above video is part 4. Here’s the first part of the interview…

michaelh

IIRC they press asked Trump about the Imperial College report/model at yesterday’s press briefing. Dr. Birx confirmed that they used the model and report as one of their sources, but went on to explain how the team was modeling this, since models become waited by the styles and preferences of the team who create them. NOT NECESSARILY BAD – people working independently do things differently – CV team wants the best ideas and input, seemed to be going for a holistic and integrated model.
“Read it; it’s terrifying.”
UHHHH, WHY?!
I don’t care how freaking scary the paper is. What I care about is the quality of the results and how well the outcomes align with reality.
If I want to read something scary I’ll go find a Stephen King novel, geez.
If a report is sobering that’s one thing, but I will not, WILL NOT, read something just because someone online found an academic report to be “terrifying”. I don’t think EMOTIVELY about this problem – what I care about are fact gathering, problem solving, rational decision making, and POSITIVE OUTCOMES, aka results.
Also note: Just because a paper is “cited” does not mean it is immediately granted weight of gold credibility. Citations are only works cited – and a good academic paper will cite works including those that have data or conclusions that seem to contradict the conclusions of the paper. An academic paper can cite literally anyone or anything regardless of the source’s “credibility”. This is just how it works. If Dr. Birx cites a paper, that does not imply an endorsement!
Adding to my suspicious cat feel about the whole thing, the press is really starting to push the Imperial College study angles.
The scientist who helped persuade Trump to take coronavirus seriously has now contracted COVID-19
Thomas Colson 1 hr ago
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-scientist-who-helped-persuade-trump-to-take-coronavirus-seriously-has-now-contracted-covid-19/ar-BB11mdhj

*The lead author of a report which helped persuade President Trump to take the threat of coronavirus more seriously has now contracted the COVID-19 disease.
* Professor Neil Ferguson’s had warned that if the United States did not introduce strict new measures to curb people’s activity and movement, 2.2 million people could die after contracting the virus.
* Shortly after its publication, the US government introduced sweeping new measures closing schools, encouraging people to work from home, and recommending that mass gatherings should not take place.
* Professor Neil Ferguson said he was now self-isolating after developing the symptoms of the disease.
* The professor also met with Prime Minister Boris Johnson in Downing Street earlier this week raising fears it may have spread further inside the UK government
The lead author of an alarming report credited with helping to persuade President Trump to change course and take the threat of coronavirus more seriously says he is now self-isolating after displaying symptoms of the disease.
Professor Neil Ferguson, an infectious disease expert at Imperial College London, said he had developed a cough on Tuesday but “felt fine” before quickly developing a fever during the night.
“Developed a slight dry but persistent cough yesterday and self-isolated even though I felt fine,” he tweeted.
“Then developed high fever at 4am today. There is a lot of COVID-19 in Westminster.”
Ferguson also said he had met Prime Minister Boris Johnson in Downing Street earlier this week and admitted there was a “slight” risk he had infected someone there.
Coronavirus is spreading much faster in London than the rest of the UK, and Westminster has 58 cases, the joint highest number of any borough.
“I’ve been in so many meetings in the last few weeks and a number of my colleagues from other universities who’ve also been advising [the] government in those meetings, have also developed symptoms,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.
Ferguson is part of Imperial College London’s COVID-19 response team, which has been one of the main organisations advising the international response to the coronavirus outbreak.
The team published a paper on Monday warning that, if the United States did not introduce strict new measures to curb people’s activity and movement, 2.2 million people could die after contracting the virus. In the UK, it warned that 250,000 people could die.
On Monday, a day after the White House was sent an advance copy of the report, the US government introduced sweeping new measures closing schools, encouraging people to work from home, and recommending that mass gatherings should not take place.
The New York Times said the new measures “appeared to draw” on Imperial College’s report, and Ferguson confirmed that the White House had been sent an advance copy of the report ahead of its publication on Monday. Boris Johnson’s government dramatically changed course after seeing the report and adopted more draconian measures which aimed to “suppress” the disease.
“The White House task force received it late Sunday afternoon, CDC yesterday,” Ferguson told CNN.
“To be honest, I don’t know how much it influenced decision making. But I hear Dr Birx cited it. We will be having a much more detailed discussion with the task force tomorrow morning.”

michaelh

The following comes from a pure propaganda rag – be advised.
COMMENTARY
March 17, 2020
Here’s the Punch-in-the-Gut Version of the Imperial College Coronavirus Study
Kevin Drum
Political Blogger
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/03/heres-the-punch-in-the-gut-version-of-the-imperial-college-coronavirus-study/

It strikes me that it might be useful to summarize the Imperial College team’s estimate of likely coronavirus deaths. They provide mortality estimates for two scenarios: doing nothing and doing quite a large amount. What we’re doing right now is somewhere between those two, so I’ve filled it in with an interpolation. The team also provides a range of estimates for massive efforts that are strictly enforced for over a year. Here’s roughly how it pencils out:comment image
The kinds of things the IC team recommends are nowhere near being implemented yet, and to have a serious effect they need to put in place soon. Given where we are now, this means that the only realistic options are #2 and #3. In other words, it’s likely that the US will see 1.1-1.5 million deaths from the coronavirus, with more than half of them coming by June.
Now, this is just one estimate. The Imperial College team used an existing microsimulation model that was created about ten years ago and then plugged in lots of guesses and estimates: what measures would be taken; how many families would comply; average class sizes; commuting distances; incubation periods; etc. Some of these are things we have a pretty good handle on, while others are a lot trickier to estimate. Some of them produce only small changes if you get them wrong, while others are pretty sensitive. So in that sense, take this with a grain of salt.
That said, this appears to be the most sophisticated estimate we have at the moment. It might be wrong, but at this point it would be foolish to simply assume so.

Note that last bit of spin: Don’t assume it is inaccurate.
Good data analysts should know not to assume it is accurate. It’s a model, with all the inherent limitations therein.

Gudthots

#TERRAIN v. #MAP
“The fuzzy terrain and blurry map suggest we adopt a “fallibilist” approach — and hold open many simultaneous possibilities about what is real. In particular, we should be VERY reluctant to take any media reports at face value, for they are never terrain, and at best misleading maps. That’s OK — it is the unavoidable nature of how we picture the world, as we cannot walk all the terrain ourselves.” – Geddes
https://mailchi.mp/martingeddes/on-pandemics-panics-and-propaganda?e=e84efb3b87
Geddes photo caption: “Magnolia in spring. A common sight just before the world doesn’t end.”comment image

Plain Jane

Don’t know if this was posted yet or not, but a friend in CA just sent this to me. It smells horribly.
SHELTER IN PLACE ORDERS IN CALIFORNIA
https://www.ksbw.com/article/shelter-in-place-monterey-santa-cruz-san-benito-county/31719798#

GA/FL

No – not in the last several weeks to a month.

Deplorable Patriot

I have seen her within the last week.

michaelh

Last comments I have on record are 2/29
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/preparing-for-the-big-fifty/comment-page-1/#comment-412682

cthulhu

I kept my head down today — I’ll be doing an exploratory tomorrow.
Santa Clara, CA — inside the Zone.

GA/FL

There is some evidence that the 1918: “Spanish flu” also came out of CHINA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
Quote – bold mine
“One of the few regions of the world seemingly less affected by the 1918 flu pandemic was China, where there may have been a comparatively mild flu season in 1918 (although this is disputed, see Around the globe). There were relatively few deaths from the flu in China compared to other regions of the world. This has led to speculation that the 1918 flu pandemic originated from China. The relatively mild flu season and lower rates of flu mortality in China in 1918 may be explained due to the fact that the Chinese population had already possessed acquired immunity to the flu virus.
In 1993, Claude Hannoun, the leading expert on the 1918 flu for the Pasteur Institute, asserted the former virus was likely to have come from China. It then mutated in the United States near Boston and from there spread to Brest, France, Europe’s battlefields, Europe, and the world with Allied soldiers and sailors as the main disseminators. He considered several other hypotheses of origin, such as Spain, Kansas and Brest, as being possible, but not likely. Political scientist Andrew Price-Smith published data from the Austrian archives suggesting the influenza had earlier origins, beginning in Austria in early 1917.
In 2014, historian Mark Humphries argued that the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines might have been the source of the pandemic. Humphries, of the Memorial University of Newfoundland in St. John’s, based his conclusions on newly unearthed records. He found archival evidence that a respiratory illness that struck northern China in November 1917 was identified a year later by Chinese health officials as identical to the Spanish flu.
A report published in 2016 in the Journal of the Chinese Medical Association found no evidence that the 1918 virus was imported to Europe via Chinese and Southeast Asian soldiers and workers. It found evidence that the virus had been circulating in the European armies for months and possibly years before the 1918 pandemic.”

GA/FL

DITTO The Bubonic Plague or Black Death:
Bubonic Plague – Black Death – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
“Spread of the Black Death in Europe and the Near East (1346–1353)
The Black Death, also known as the Pestilence, Great Bubonic Plague, the Great Plague or the Plague, or less commonly the Great Mortality or Black Plague, was one of the most devastating pandemics in human history, resulting in the deaths of an estimated 75 to 200 million people in Eurasia, peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351.The bacterium Yersinia pestis, which results in several forms of plague (septicemic, pneumonic and, the most common, bubonic), is believed to have been the cause. The Black Death was the first major European outbreak of plague and the second plague pandemic. The plague created a number of religious, social and economic upheavals, with profound effects on the course of European history.
The Black Death probably originated in Central Asia or East Asia, from where it travelled along the Silk Road, reaching Crimea by 1343.”

GA/FL

I guess there are multiple theories/views/evidentiary trails.

Dora
GA/FL

Should post the prayers and let the parishioners pray the prayers and the Holy Spirit do the blessing, forgiveness, deliverance, giving peace.
Jewish also have prayers for time of death – which are mostly from the Psalms of David:
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/364288/jewish/Jewish-Prayers-for-the-Final-Moments-of-Life.htm
https://coffeeshoprabbi.com/2017/06/23/what-is-the-jewish-prayer-for-the-dead/

GA/FL

Or the Priests could record the prayers in audio and video and let the people access them online.

Deplorable Patriot

It has to be done in person as there is annoiting with the Oil of the Sick to be done as part of the Sacrament.

GA/FL

Surely something can be done – such as delivering tiny individual bottles of oil to families, hospitals, nursing homes – this is a time of emergency and the Lord’s presence and efficacy is not limited to priests’ hands and voices.

Deplorable Patriot

Unfortunately, no. It’s up to the priest to take precautions after touching the individual.

GA/FL

I’ve read of medics in the field and nurses in field hospitals giving divine unction when priests are not present.

Deplorable Patriot

Now that I think about, in what we call a sick call kit, there is oil. It’s white candles, Holy Water, and Oil. Ours are so old, I think they only still have the candles.

kalbokalbs

IIRC from Catholic grammar school days in the 60s, we were taught the “sick call kit” was acceptable IF a Priest was not available. There was NO discussion of it not being “as good” as a Priest administering the Last Rights.
Parents had one hanging in the front entry hall, integrated into the Cross on the wall. Opened, Cross had a stand, cotton balls, little bottle of oil…

Deplorable Patriot

Like I said, ours are so old, only the candles are in them.

GA/FL

One of the last verses in the Bible talks about the Body of Christ being a Kingdom of priests.

Deplorable Patriot

DO NOT BE AFRAID! I hope these men made full Confessions.

GA/FL

Very interesting.

NYGuy

Has there been one man under more pressure in the modern era than Pres Trump? The entire world is watching what he does. Honestly, I don’t know how he does it but I am thankful it is him in charge. I said this yesterday but I think this will end up being his finest (and ours) hour.

Deplorable Patriot

Playing golf…talk about social distancing. It would do him a world of good to get some fresh air. The Little Princess and I sat in the back yard when the sun finally came out yesterday. It makes a difference.

GA/FL

TOO LITTLE – TOO LATE.

NYGuy

Shut ‘er down. Each country needs to protect its own citizens.

Deplorable Patriot

This dovetails with a lot of what we now know.
https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1240166481759023104

NYGuy

love him…straight talker…man of action

GA/FL

Pompeo is a B3 – Big Balls Badass.

Sue Mcdonald

Reported on local news last night 1st China flu in lane co.man had been sick 2 weeks before going to Dr. had been out in public ,going to work ect… I will see how many cases Oregon has when the news comes on. My 2 youngest children who work at VA hospital came home with news that hospital has shut down all floors but the 1st floor and the the other floors are being prepped for flu patients. There worried about getting sick and not being able to work.
state wide shut down of all dining and fast food ,no groups over 10 to gather, were being told to stay home except grocery shopping or med pickup.

Concerned Virginian

Sue Mcdonald
This dovetails with what my son, a doctor, told me a couple of days ago. His hospital is turning as many beds as possible into ICU and Isolation beds. All the doctors there had to sign an agreement stipulating that they could be called to work in any ward or clinic in the hospital, even if it was outside their individual areas of practice. The agreement went into effect yesterday and goes until further notice. Patients at his hospital who could safely be discharged are being processed out to their homes, to rehab places, to nursing homes, etc. His hospital is buying masks, gloves, disposable gowns, other medical supplies from wherever they can get them.

Sue Mcdonald

I do believe after today’s briefing ,that the VA hospital will be closing all floors to make room.the kids told me after work that all elective surgeries and dental work were cancelled and the 2nd floor was being converted to make room for beds.
When I took my son to work this morning it was very odd,no bumper to bumper cars,it was like the rapture or something.so weird. So we will know when comes home tonight.

para59r

Right now any plan that might work (like making masks mandatory in spread zones ex. to conduct commerce you must wear a face covering) would only save conservative areas as lib areas are being totally shredded by this virus.

Deplorable Patriot

Banks won’t allow masks, but that could be interesting.
On Monday when I went, the security guard was wiping down the door handles. It’s simple stuff like that that’s going to make a difference.

bakocarl

If banks allow a burka, they can allow a mask.

Deplorable Patriot

My bank doesn’t allow the burka.

coosmama

How to get banned from twtr: /s (or maybe not)
“If you don’t want me to call the Chinese Virus a Chinese Virus, then what do you want me to label the Chinese Virus, so we can discuss the Chinese Virus and know which virus we are talking about?”.

plumnelly1

After serious contemplation and after this video I have decided What is going on with this virus is all of below:
Synonyms & Antonyms for hoax
Synonyms: Verb
bamboozle, beguile, bluff, buffalo, burn, catch, con, cozen, deceive, delude, dupe, fake out, fool, gaff, gammon, gull, have, have on [chiefly British], hoodwink, hornswoggle, humbug, juggle, misguide, misinform, mislead, snooker, snow, spoof, string along, suck in, sucker, take in, trick.
Also I will not be a willing participate and I feel sorry that our President has been forced into this. He has always deserved better.
https://twitter.com/katybarsdoor/status/1240257182777708545?s=20

plumnelly1

I will clarify..I know there is a flu virus out there I just think it is over hyped and being used to destroy our economy and country.

MAGA Mom

If it is being overhyped then they have completely fooled the hospital industry. Insider report: they are working desperately hard to expand their abilities and coming up with various plans to handle the coming influx of patients.
Understand the projections of cases. Understand the growth rate – growth of total cases and growth per day of new cases. It is NOT about how many cases we currently have (7,301) or about total number of deaths as of now (116 deaths/106 recovered).
It is about the number of cases who need hospitalization, intensive treatment, ICU and how many cases need these things at one time.
As we begin to reach max capacity in our hospitals, then the military ships will be used off the coast of our major cities and military field hospitals will be used near big cities as needed. But all will Max out eventually if the growth rate is not slowed.
IF (hopefully the growth rate Will be slowed sufficiently!) we reach max capacity then the death rate will spike because the patients who need hospital care to make it through simply will not receive it. Additional deaths of people who do Not have the virus will increase as well as hospitals will be maxed out with virus cases. We still have heart, cancer and accident patients incoming to our hospitals as well as women giving birth, etc.
Sadly, we are way passed containment and the total focus is on “mitigation”, Slowing the spread so that the number of complicated cases can handled by our hospital systems.
Hospitals are taking a financial hit as elective surgeries bring in more $. They are being canceled (many by wise patients!) in part for cross contamination prevention but also to free up beds, doctors, nurses and the machinery – they are inventorying the breathing machines used in ORs because they can be converted to ongoing intubation if the cases grow beyond standard equipment. This is a real thing that hospitals are doing.
Hospitals are working Extra Hard, putting plans in place to mitigate the coming numbers of WuFlu cases with complications and are praying a) for time, b) for slow growth so they never max out. If this is all a fraud, a joke then the hospitals systems and their employees are 100% fooled.
Nope – the issue of fast growth of overall cases, which means fast growth of the percentage that need hospitalization due to complications, is a Real issue and would be disastrous if the growth curve is not flattened, slowed, lessened…whatever – slow it down!

kalbokalbs

How does one explain Italy, if it is being over hyped?

Deplorable Patriot

Deplorable Patriot
michaelh

And it’s gone.

GA/FL

Having had a grandparent die in the Diphtheria epidemic of 1918 – I looked up the disease.
GUESS WHICH COUNTRY still has the most significant outbreaks?
GUESS WHICH COUNTRY should develop significant public health department, practices????
GUESS WHICH COUNTRY contributes the most diseases, pollution, sub-grade products to the world?
GUESS WHICH COUNTRY steals technology and counterfeits patented goods the most?

GA/FL

We should only resume tourism/air and cruise travel with China after China gets their act together re: public health, sanitation, dangerous dietary practices and diseases and honesty reporting outbreaks.

GA/FL

In fact – instituting rigid health/disease prevention practices should be part of written conditions in the new US Trade Deal with China!!!

kinthenorthwest

H3LL just look at all the diseases that the Illegals keep bringing in. Does not make sense, and they still screaming for us to open up the southern border

michaelh
LM

Italy has over 2500 dead and over 31000 people suffering from this.
This may be someone’s dream of what could happen here to eliminate the re-election of the President and the demise of all of his supporters but it is certainly not mine.
I am so grateful for all that the President is doing.
Imo, anyone who has ever experienced the struggle for breath from pneumonia or the agony of watching a loved one suffer this, would not want even their worst enemy to go through it.
Thankfully, most of the country—regardless of political persuasion—feels this way.
We are all watching the President put people before money. Bringing us through this difficult time is a test of his presidency and of the strength of his support. I think many people are becoming aware of the fact that the globalist view of completely open borders with no government monitoring of controls in place puts us at great risk.
Most of us are thankful he is closing the borders.
Most young people I know are worried about their elders and not so much themselves. Most of us elders are worried about others.
I am not a prepper and am running low on toilet paper. I am not too worried about it. We have other paper products.
People here have been mostly kind and seem grateful for the restrictions , which are pretty severe, the government is taking to deep us safe.
We had a flare up earlier on and it seems to be leveling out so the measures taken do seem to have and effect.

LM

No government monitoring OR controls…
(Sorry)

bakocarl

“I am so grateful for all that the President is doing.” . . . yes! He is not deceived.

MAGA Mom

YES! The entire corp office working from home as of today! Husband was already home yesterday and today because I was sick & going through one of my “spells” from chronic issues. He goes in early so would have driven into town just to come back home this morning so that worked out well. So glad he is home! Now, we go out for Dr as needed and groceries as needed.
They are still working hard (healthcare company) and working new projects due to virus and escalating hospital needs due to virus.

Deplorable Patriot

Funny, my brother and his wife both had had their remote hours and days cut before all this hit. Now, they’re both remoting all day while my parents deal with their kids.

BlackKnightRides

The TESTING regime POTUS is implementing is phenomenal in terms of what we’ll be able to learn and use. NO other country has created Testing-with-Integrity, much less Testing-for-Solutions. They threw stuff out there that hid problems (aborting any opportunity to learn and win), drove false-negatives that allowed the virus to multiply the breadth and severity infections unchecked, and generated false-positives that drove governments and industries to over-react (needlessly damaging economies on a nationwide basis) and under-focus (wasting resources that led to overwhelmed healthcare systems).

BlackKnightRides

President Trump’s rolling out so many “firsts in history” and titanic decisions, the press can’t begin to grasp or begin to question them (without looking like fools), much less appreciate the snowballing impact.
The virus may be geometrically growing in impact, but every one of their announcements is geometrically growing on its own.
They’re launching unimagined systems, inventing new technologies, crowdsourcing solutions across industries and governments, multiplying the leverage of spending through private-public partnerships, …

BlackKnightRides

They DISMANTLED our Pandemic “Research-and-Analysis Capabilities” and BUILT a PANDEMIC WAR MACHINE that could be rapidly mobilized, adaptively organized and virally expanded.

BlackKnightRides

Fist-bump!

BlackKnightRides

Congress will actually be forced to work 4 or 5 day workweeks, cause he’s choking them with backlogged legislation and appropriations and deregulation requirements.
At this early stage, looks like he’s ADDING THREE to their pile for EVERY ONE they pass (which then gets recycled to take out the graft and waste, then add back what they had blocked/ignored to feather donors’ nests and campaign coffers).

BlackKnightRides

Was just reflecting on how incredibly valuable President Trump’s relentless assault on destructive regulations has been … beyond those eliminated … in building the most in-depth understanding of what our regulatory state accomplishes and where & how it stifles our economy along with responses to emergencies!

BlackKnightRides

Dr. Birx is becoming a rock star, IMHO.
She’s showing an unparalleled ability to field the most inane and obnoxious “questions/assertions”, to explain what really matters in such logical and understandable terms, and do it masterfully, empathetically and calmly.

BlackKnightRides

What NO ONE has begun to discuss is the groundwork POTUS has been laying and the teams he’s been grooming for this.
• Now our developer-builder and virally-powerful leader has the entire resources of the government and economy and nationwide leaders
• … plus an UNLIMITED CHECKBOOK (now that he suckered opponents into declaring he needed to go big after his initial $2.5 B request)
• … and a DEALMAKING FRUGALITY that multiplies the impact of every $.
He’s actually beginning to transform members of the opposition media into awestruck cheerleaders:

The public has no clue about what he’s preparing the DoD to do:
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/487769-coronavirus-unmasks-americas-real-national-security-vulnerabilities

MAGA Mom

I always enjoy your posts Black Knight Rides. So glad you are here.

BlackKnightRides

TY!

michaelh

I like to hang out with the smart people

NYGuy

Study shows coronavirus appears to spread slowly in warmer climate. Exactly what Pres Trump’s team has been indicating but the MSM keeps yelling “but what about Florida?”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-stunning-chart-shows-the-coronavirus-spreading-slowly-in-tropical-countries-2020-03-17?mod=mw_latestnews
Now you can understand why the administration wants to limit social interactions. The warmer weather will kill off the virus. As least this suggests that.

NYGuy

More on this same topic. But even more direct. Helpful video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=49&v=dkPLRRcAG3w&feature=emb_logo

GA/FL

FLORIDA cases indicate elderly cruise line travelers to hot spots – and – cruise line employees and those whose company services cruise lines. GA cases center around Atlanta airport and foreign travel.
MOST OF THE US CASES center around Democrat Sanctuary states and cities…and travel hubs.
Travel from hot spots and sanctuary policies toward illegals are the Basic Common Denominator of the US coronavirus outbreak!!

NYGuy

that’s good information

NYGuy

Sunlight is a healer. Puts more vitamin D in our systems. Just not too much.

Deplorable Patriot

A Dr. Michael Holick has done extensive research on vitamin D and the sun. He claims it is the best source, and has TONS of charts as to when the beta waves actually hit various latitudes.
http://drholick.com/

Gudthots

Holick’s wife owns a Vitamin D company. His conflict of interest problems do not end there.
The head of the Autoimmunity Network, Dr. Yehuda Shoenfeld,* (also founder and head of the Zabludowicz Center for Autoimmune Diseases, at the Sheba Medical Center) has no problem admitting that D is a seco-steroid that suppresses normal immune function.
Holick benefits from pushing the supplemental D meme (very high markup/profits).
Which opens the question, does taking D remove symptoms by suppression or remedy. If by supression, then it might the same dangers as prednisone or NSAIDs.
*https://autoimmunity-network.com/page/ShoenfeldBio

Deplorable Patriot

Say what you will, but the summers I spend a lot of time outside and get decently tan, I’m a lot healthier the next winter.

Gudthots

I love sunshine!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

We’ve been told since childhood that the saltwater heals wounds. It does indeed, a gift from our Lord.❤

Deplorable Patriot

I saw something yesterday from WHO or the CDC or one of the “trusted” places that debunks the warmer weather slows it down, but all indicators from private researchers are that it does.
The think to remember about Florida, especially Palm Beach, Clearwater and other gathering spots for SENIOR SNOW BIRDS, is the age of the population. That’s going to make a difference in mortality if nothing else.

NYGuy

Sunlight is god’s version of chicken soup.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes. And the salt air, as well.

Gudthots

All those seniors have central air conditioning.

phoenixrising37

And just yesterday the CDC was saying heat does not kill this virus… (I countered the statement w/ comments from others at POTUS’ briefing yesterday)
We can’t trust the CDC – RedState had a piece yesterday, can’t locate right now, will look for…

Deplorable Patriot

ROTFL

kinthenorthwest

Damn here we go again…..Now they people are going on TV saying America can try Trump for man slaughter. Do these people even care about America much less America.
MSNBC legal analyst suggests Trump’s criminally guilty of ‘manslaughter,’ ‘negligent homicide’ in handling of COVID-19
March 18, 2020 | Tom Tillison | Print Article
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/18/msnbc-legal-analyst-suggests-trumps-criminally-guilty-of-manslaughter-negligent-homicide-in-handling-of-covid-19-898470?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

MAGA Mom

They get crazier with every attempt to oust him. They loose more and more support with every round and strengthen President Trump’s support.

kinthenorthwest

GA/FL

MSDNC is acting criminally!!!

GA/FL

WH TASK FORCE NEWS CONFERENCE – LIVE NOW – 11:27 am
White House – https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Golden State –

Volgarian8301

kinthenorthwest

Well on top of this MSNBC is saying that Trump can be found guilty of manslaughter because of this virus.

Volgarian8301

MSNBC is a ship of fools

kinthenorthwest

Oh I know that Vol–But sadly there are several ships of fools that listen to them that will repeat their words over and over on the internet without being censored.
Now if we try to contradict the lies we will be the ones censored.

kalbokalbs

Why would anyone tune into MSNBC. Much less give them any credence? CUT THE CABLE.

kinthenorthwest

All the Trump haters that will have that tidbit spread all over social media like it was the whole truth

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H/T Sadie.
Mandarin lesson:
CCP bots are called ‘Wumaos’
五毛
Now I use the symbols when replying to the bots. MF’rs!

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In Our ‘war against the Chinese Virus’
POTUS invoking Defense Production Act
Mercy(east coast) and Comfort (west coast) ships ready to launch
Working on a possible self-swab test
2nd news conference today or early tomorrow on FDA developments – lots of red tape reduced
Meeting w/nurses today
HUD suspends foreclosures, evictions
We’re going to defeat this invisible enemy, We’re going to win the War

Defense Production Act allows private sector to ramp up manufacturing and distribution of emergency supplies

MAGA Mom

live now

Concerned Virginian

POTUS; HHS will issue orders that allow ALL MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, including DOCTORS, to practice ACROSS STATE LINES.

Concerned Virginian

DoD Sec. ESPER:
5 Million N-95 masks will go from DoD to HHS.
2,000 ventilators to be released to HHS if needed.
16 DoD labs will be ready to help process virus tests.
Field hospitals getting ready for deployment per orders from POTUS as C-in-C.
Defense capacity for the U.S. WILL be maintained.

kea

When we have “community exposure.” but they don’t tell you where! Nice going krewson

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Esper
DoD travel restrictions in place for military
5,000 masks, 2,000 vents offered
Working on 16th lab

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POTUS sternly shutdown little media gnat – Virus comes from CHINA, No it’s not racist, They tried to blame it on American soldiers, That can’t happen, It won’t happen on my watch, IT COMES FROM CHINA, next…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is a most BRILLIANT defense. POTUS has fully put the BILL for this operation back on CHYYYNNAA.
The ChiComs literally DESTROYED THEMSELVES with this operation.

Concerned Virginian

POTUS:
AMERICA IS ON A WARTIME FOOTING REGARDING THE VIRUS.
The enemy will be defeated.
ANOTHER STUPID FEMALE REPORTER:
“Why did it take YOU so long to recognize the problem with ventilators?”
POTUS: “Well hospitals are supposed to have ventilators too.”
STUPID FEMALE REPORTER: Keeps going after POTUS trying to make him look UNCONCERNED / INCOMEPETNT
POTUS ignores her and asks VP Pence to talk.
THEN HE SHUTS HER DOWN.
MINIMALLY INTELLIGENT MALE REPORTER: Questions trying to do a “GOTCHA” on POTUS regarding closing the U.S. – Canada border..
POTUS: Shuts him down.
ANOTHER MINIMALLY INTELLINGENT MALE REPORTER:
Another trying to do a “GOTCHA” on POTUS on the upcoming federal stimulus money. He’s not buying it.
Male reporter STILL trying to do a “GOTCHA” on POTUS about the EXACT AMOUNT of the individual checks to be sent. POTUS shuts him down.
DEAR GOD:
STUPID MALE REPORTER: Trying to trap POTUS into “how do you reassure Americans who DON’T TRUST YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING about the response to the virus.
POTUS: shuts him down.

bakocarl

86% of people with coronavirus are walking around undetected, study says
By Jackie SaloMarch 17, 2020
“Stealth” coronavirus cases are fueling the pandemic, with a staggering 86% of people infected walking around undetected, a new study says.
Six of every seven cases – 86% — were not reported in China before travel restrictions were implemented, driving the spread of the virus, according to a study Monday in the journal Science.
“It’s the undocumented infections which are driving the spread of the outbreak,” said co-author Jeffrey Shaman of Columbia University Mailman School, according to GeekWire.
Using computer modeling, researchers tracked infections before and after the Chinese city of Wuhan’s travel ban.
The findings indicated that these undocumented infections with no or mild symptoms — known as “stealth” cases — were behind two-thirds of the reported patients.
“The majority of these infections are mild, with few symptoms at all,” Shaman said, Mercury News reported. “People may not recognize it. Or they think they have a cold.”
These “stealth” cases were then able to transmit the bug that could cause severe symptoms in other people, according to the researchers.
“It will continue to present a major challenge to the containment of this outbreak going forward,” Shaman said, adding that it underscores the importance of restrictions on movement in hard-hit regions.
COVID-19 has spread across the world to 182,400 people, causing at least 7,100 deaths, according to a tally from Johns Hopkins University.
*https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/86-of-people-with-coronavirus-are-walking-around-undetected-study-says/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. Were I not hyper-attuned to this, I would have passed it on to a lot of people. Even the “auto-stealth” period where symptomatic people can transmit BEFORE they are symptomatic made my wife pass it on.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They were TRAINED to be stupid by CHINA.
Communist take-over is VERY subtle.
It is important to differentiate “racism” in whatever way that term has meaning to us, from the political weaponization of the concept. The Chinese communists – most of whom are racist as hell, ironically – use the concept brilliantly to ADVANCE SOCIALISM.

Concerned Virginian

DEAR GOD
MALE LEFTWING REPORTER: Trying to trap POTUS about “Millenials who support you aren’t taking what you said seriously. What do you say to them now?”
POTUS: Heed the advice. Don’t take the virus home to your parents and grandparents.
THEN HE SHUT THE TWERP DOWN.
ANOTHER STUPID FEMALE REPORTER: STILL going after POTUS to get a “GOTCHA” about calling it the Chinese Virus.
HE SHUT HER DOWN.
STUPID MALE REPORTER:
“Your polls are very low.” POTUS: What polls are you talking about?
THEN HE SHUT HIM DOWN.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great summary! Yes – he’s really teaching by fending off these China-bots!

GA/FL

We also had Spanish Flu and German Measles….

Concerned Virginian

Dr. BIRX: We must protect the elderly especially those in nursing homes.
ANOTHER STUPID FEMALE REPORTER: Trying to get POTUS into a “GOTCHA” about the “KUNG FLU” name from a “person in the White House.”
POTUS: Who said that?
STUPID RE{ORTER: I don’t know.
POTUS: Well, the flu DID come from China.
THEN HE SHUT HER DOWN.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WORSE THAN ACCIDENT
WORSE THAN COVER-UP
INTENTIONAL 4GW RELEASE

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Archived, in case it goes blank.
https://archive.fo/BbVaB

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Took it over to Gab!
https://gab.com/WOLFM00N/posts/103845912275701928
50s
Wolf Moon
@WOLFM00N
Never interfere with your own viral (literally) attack on Trump. This, plus imprisonment and death of the loud-mouth doctor, show INTENT. ChiComs needed the virus to SPREAD before they put it out. Note that their “last resort” cover will be to “admit” they were covering up an accident. NOPE. This is VIRAL GLOBAL JUSSIE.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chinese-scientists-destroyed-proof-of-virus-in-december-rz055qjnj
Archived:
https://archive.fo/BbVaB
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Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December
Chinese laboratories identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December last year, but they were ordered to stop tests, destroy…
http://www.thetimes.co.uk

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MAGA Mom

If anyone could do it on short notice and with no experience in that field, it is you. And I would trust your new hospital over 1/2 of the hospital systems in existence. Like POTUS, you seem to know how to get ‘er done!

gil00

Yes and they could stay isolated in the harbor. Big ideas.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP.
FAST REORGANIZATION is going to smooth things out very much.

TheseTruths

Go for it! American ingenuity on display.

Chris

Great idea !! support operations alone would put people to work… but Careful!!
If you were to anchor that in the warm breezes and fresh air of the Caribbean
might find too many getting sick for a vacation !!

GA/FL

Unprecedented….This is real Presidential leadership!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The self-cutting behavior of China’s army of press manipuloids is truly stunning. BOTS!!!
“WAYCISS! WAYCISS! WAYCISS!”
Here – go sit in the corner and have a FORTUNE COOKIE, dear. You wound-eyed iriot!

kalbokalbs

White House Press Pool IS dumber than a box of rocks.
For safety and health of all, pressers should move back out doors. Maybe have Marine One engines running.

GA/FL

IMHO – If the WHO and the CDC were doing their jobs – the COVID-19 virus and several other deadly diseases (SARS, MERS, flu viruses) would not have arisen or gotten out of control in China and certainly would not have escaped China.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m not going to blame any of them now, because I believe that China was EVADING EVEN THEIR OWN CONTROLS from the START. The ChiComs were even evading their own health system to release this.
The Chinese communist party was in desperation mode. They plotted this to “Get Trump / Stop Trump”, and didn’t care what costs ANYBODY paid.
This was a PLAN, and they cut a lot of corners to make it work. The PATTERN of many tiny cut corners betrays their desperation.
This is very much like the NAZIS, who betrayed their own people, their own military, and everybody else.

GA/FL

You are right – IF it was intentional – the world health agencies could not have stopped it – IF – they wanted to do so.
If this is not just a Chinese effort – but Communist/Globalist/One World Government fomented and the agencies are part of it – then PDJT has got a world-wide battle on his hands!!!
It will take much PRAYER and GOD’S MERCY to overcome!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – many people like Bill Gates and all the cabal actors were riding on the CCP’s success. It’s a combination of overlooking the CCP’s negatives for self-interest, and buying into CCP lies.
Who led the conspiracy and who followed? That’s a tough call. Fluid like the MAFIA.

GA/FL

Multiple factors – Multiple actors ?

GA/FL

I’d still like to know if the virus was engineered from the original SARS or another coronavirus… or is there technology to do such a thing?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, yes – the technology is there. Even the academic work from YEARS ago was a hair’s breadth from this – they were TESTING with modified coronavirus proteins – the original viruses being isolated from bats.
This is now like automobile design – copying something from another maker. They made changes that were similar to HIV. They didn’t actually USE the HIV virus in any way except as a MODEL to make changes to the coronavirus. This is why I call it a FUNCTIONAL hybrid with HIV. It’s like designing bull horns on humans. You don’t use BULL DNA directly – you use it as a model to see how you might do the same thing in human DNA by modifying THAT.
Exactly the same principle as translating code from one programming language to another.

GA/FL

We need a BIOLOGICAL ATTACK – DISEASE DEFENSE CORPS as much as we need the SPACE FORCE

GA/FL

US Public Health Corps are already in uniform and largely military – expand this group greatly!!!

singularzoe

Wolfmoon, do not remember where I read it, but rather early on after we learned about corona19, I read a tiny piece of the AIDS virus was put into the nucleus. Are we certain that is wrong?