Dear KAG: 20221124 Thanksgiving Open Thread

Due to Q-Treeper poll results, this is a lighter fare Thanksgiving thread. If anything important happens, or if a skunk moves in under your she shed, please post in the comments.

Anti-Thanksgiving? UnAmerican at best, treason more likely.

So, what REALLY happened to bring about Thanksgiving here in the former colonies of England, France and Spain?????

The Great Thanksgiving Hoax

This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving’s real meaning.

The official story has the Pilgrims boarding the Mayflower, coming to America, and establishing the Plymouth colony in the winter of 1620–21. This first winter is hard, and half the colonists die. But the survivors are hard working and tenacious, and they learn new farming techniques from the Indians. The harvest of 1621 is bountiful. The pilgrims hold a celebration, and give thanks to God. They are grateful for the wonderful new abundant land He has given them.

The official story then has the Pilgrims living more or less happily ever after, each year repeating the first Thanksgiving. Other early colonies also have hard times at first, but they soon prosper and adopt the annual tradition of giving thanks for this prosperous new land called America.

The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hard-working or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

In his History of Plymouth Plantation, the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years because they refused to work in the field. They preferred instead to steal food. He says the colony was riddled with “corruption,” and with “confusion and discontent.” The crops were small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable.”

In the harvest feasts of 1621 and 1622, “all had their hungry bellies filled,” but only briefly. The prevailing condition during those years was not the abundance the official story claims, it was famine and death. The first “Thanksgiving” was not so much a celebration as it was the last meal of condemned men.

But in subsequent years something changes. The harvest of 1623 was different. Suddenly, “instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God.” Thereafter, he wrote, “any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.” In fact, in 1624, so much food was produced that the colonists were able to begin exporting corn.

What happened? After the poor harvest of 1622, writes Bradford, “they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop.” They began to question their form of economic organization.

This had required that “all profits & benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means” were to be placed in the common stock of the colony, and that, “all such persons as are of this colony, are to have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock.” A person was to put into the common stock all he could, and take only what he needed.

This “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need” was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving. Bradford writes that “young men that were most able and fit for labor and service” complained about being forced to “spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children.” Also, “the strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes, than he that was weak.” So the young and strong refused to work and the total amount of food produced was never adequate.

To rectify this situation, in 1623 Bradford abolished socialism. He gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit. In other words, he replaced socialism with a free market, and that was the end of the famines.

Socialism only works in religious order settings, and then, it doesn’t really work there, either.

From our friend Gail:

The Christian Ethics Behind the Pilgrims’ Rejection of Communism

One misconception that is still with us is that the Pilgrims adopted socialism out of religious conviction, as if Christian ethics requires a Platonic communist utopia. Galles notes that this is a misconception, but it is beyond the scope of his essay to provide the full historical back drop to that initial fateful economic design.

In fact, as Bradford makes clear, the Pilgrims did not desire to establish Christian communism. The Pilgrims’ original communal property arrangements were foisted upon them by their colonial sponsors. The sponsors did this after they learned that they would not be granted a monopoly of fishing rights in Cape Cod. The sponsors’ original agreement with the Pilgrims was such that the Pilgrims were to work for four days for the sponsoring company and then would have two days to work for themselves. The sponsors later changed their deal and told the Pilgrims that they would have to work all six days of the work week for the sponsors. At the end of seven years, the Pilgrims would be granted title to the property they worked. The Pilgrims were not happy with the change, several of them recognizing that the new arrangement would make them virtual slaves of the sponsors, but they went along with the deal because many had already made large investments toward the move and they were convinced that emigrating to the New World is what God wanted them to do.

Also of interest may be the story of Squanto as told by Dr. Taylor Marshall. Unfortunately, this is only available on YouTube, so I am providing links.

For your viewing pleasure:

And, of course, Louis Anderson telling of Thanksgiving at his house.

And, true story, we were at some relatives’ house for a September fish fry, and a cousin said, “Do we have everything out?”

In unison, several of us said, “THE CRANBERRIES!”

I’d actually bring some sort of salad.

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In the meantime, the short and sweet version of “THE RULES” is here borrowed from Tuesday:

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller the late Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights – IN HONOR OF OUR PAT, SUSPENDED FOR TODAY ONLY
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone. ALSO FOR TODAY ONLY, BYOB – BRING YOUR OWN BOURBON.

Since it is almost the weekend, the reminders are in place to not swing from the chandeliers, wash your hands and face, and be nice to the liberals whether they deserve it or not. Making your bed, OTOH, is optional.

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SIRACH 50:22-24

22And now bless the God of all, who in every way does great things; who exalts our days from birth, and deals with us according to his mercy. 23May he give us gladness of heart, and grant that peace may be in our days in Israel, as in the days of old. 24May he entrust to us his mercy! And let him deliver us in our days!

PSALMS 138:1-5

1I give thee thanks, O LORD, with my whole heart; before the gods I sing thy praise; 2I bow down toward thy holy temple and give thanks to thy name for thy steadfast love and thy faithfulness; for thou hast exalted above everything thy name and thy word. 3On the day I called, thou didst answer me, my strength of soul thou didst increase. 4All the kings of the earth shall praise thee, O LORD, for they have heard the words of thy mouth; 5and they shall sing of the ways of the LORD, for great is the glory of the LORD.

1 CORINTHIANS 1:3-9

3Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 4I give thanks to God always for you because of the grace of God which was given you in Christ Jesus, 5that in every way you were enriched in him with all speech and all knowledge — 6even as the testimony to Christ was confirmed among you — 7so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ; 8who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

LUKE 17:11-19

11On the way to Jerusalem he was passing along between Sama’ria and Galilee. 12And as he entered a village, he was met by ten lepers, who stood at a distance 13and lifted up their voices and said, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us.” 14When he saw them he said to them, “Go and show yourselves to the priests.” And as they went they were cleansed. 15Then one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, praising God with a loud voice; 16and he fell on his face at Jesus’ feet, giving him thanks. Now he was a Samaritan. 17Then said Jesus, “Were not ten cleansed? Where are the nine? 18Was no one found to return and give praise to God except this foreigner?” 19And he said to him, “Rise and go your way; your faith has made you well.”

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Happy Thanksgiving, y’all. Remember, after the meal, it is perfectly acceptable to look for a place to lie down.

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JW in Germany

My family has not watched many NFL games in recent years since the kneeling fiasco—but decided for today to bring back a Thanksgiving tradition and give it a chance.

The game Buffalo visiting Detroit started off great! The National Anthem sung live with no players kneeling—a good start. The game starts and is okay—I think the quality of play has never been the same since the rules have been changed to soften the game. That said, so far…so good.

But then it happens, by halftime, there were at least 5 or 6 Pfizer ads promoting the death jab. I cannot believe that after nearly 2 years of evidence against the jab—it is STILL so openly pushed to the masses.

So now I have switched to a Christmas classic ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’—MUCH BETTER! I have watched that movie every year since I was a kid. Donna Reed was such a beautiful woman!

As bad as German media is—and THEY ARE BAD—they are not promoting Pfizer at every 2nd commercial break.

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para59r

Applaud the choice in switching.

Gail Combs

AMEN!!!

Barb Meier

I stopped watching sports long ago, but have been watching the MacRobertson Shield World Team Championship Croquet because a friend’s husband is playing for the US. It’s so different than the croquet we played when I was growing up.It is hard for me to follow the rules, but it’s still fun. It is being livestreamed on vimeo. https://livestream.com/mysportlive/events/10679699

JW in Germany

I enjoy watching UFC MMA—perhaps the only unwoke major sport STILL available. My son is in MMA and I have a passion for the sport ever since watching Bruce Lee films as a youngster.

cthulhu

A while back, our neighborhood had a truly dangerous dog. It was a rescue — partial pit bull — that had been horribly mistreated and anti-socialized. The Fiancee and I had been charged, and I put the Fiancee behind me and defended her using a technique I got from a friend who bred horses.

A short time later, it charged a mail carrier who had been doing MMA for some years. The technique that mail carriers are taught is to fend off the jaws with the mail pouch and hit the dog with pepper spray. This carrier couldn’t be bothered.

He was walking, the dog was snarling and charging, and at just the right second he kneed the dog right in the center of its chest, causing it to fly backward about ten feet. This was so different from the way the dog had expected the attack to proceed that it reconsidered some of its life choices rather than return to the fray. The mailman didn’t even break stride.

MMA is very clear at distinguishing between what is and what is wanted to be — whether that’s opponents in refereed matches or dogs on the street.

para59r

Hopefully ours are released in this. Butterfly and Linda and any others that might be banned.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The red pills are just exploding everywhere on Twitter!

Gail Combs

I really do love Elon’s sense of humor. That alone should make Twatter a success. He certainly seems to be having fun with his new ‘Toy’ and I bet the CIA/Globalist/Bye-Done admin is cringing.
  :wpds_lol: 

Gail Combs

BWAHaHaHa
  :wpds_lol: 

Elon strikes again.

Patrick relates a story that is absolutely GLORIOUS!!!
Go to 22 minutes… BUT PUT ALL DRINKS DOWN FIRST!!!

https://rumble.com/v1wrwgw-trash-talk-ep-11-thurs-800-am-et-.html

  :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol: 

Gail Combs

OH, My another one@ 38:00 min

Starts with Pat mentioning the Globalists/Left creating the illusion we are a minority/ lone voice in the wilderness and then goes to what Elon did to stop bots.

This one is clean so I will reproduce it.

Hate speech impressions down by 1/3 from pre-spike levels. Congrats to Twitter Team. [Graph]

….

I have half a mind to wag my finger at the 1500 accounts that caused that spike, but I shall forbear. 🙄 

….

Reducing the max allowed tweets/day to a number below what a speed typist on meth could do was helpful.

  :wpds_cool: 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, that was a great one. Musk OWNED somebody on team LEFTY with that.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, that is a SCREAM! They were dying of laughter, and so was I.

Gail Combs

As I said, PUT DOWN any beverages.  🤓 

Linda

That’s great news, para! Thanks for posting it.

para59r

Hoping it happens. Be sure to let us know when/if you get restored. We’re still validating Musk. 😉

Valerie Curren

Just for the record…this is still where my account stands for I refuse to self-censor…

Thanks for your appeal
You appealed:

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  • comment imageValerie Curren

    @TheCrimsonWorm @MichaelDeLauzon Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, vitamin D–Dr. Zev Zelenko protocol Ivermectin other treatments shared by AAPS, American Association of Physicians & Surgeons & other patriot doctors all were suppressed deliberately & diabolically!
    Apr 21, 2021, 10:10 AM

    Please note that while we review your appeal, you won’t be able to access your Twitter account. We’ll take a look and will respond as soon as possible.
    If you’d rather just delete the content, you can .

    I have appealed this banning twice now & my current appeal has been pending for months, ever since Elon was first talking about acquiring Twit World!

    So I clicked on “help” to see my options

    Here’s a link to their rules, which I have not violated

    https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-rules

    Here’s a link to their Terms of Service, which I’m skimming to see if there is a clause that might apply to above tweet:

    https://twitter.com/en/tos

    There’s a link to “Periscope Community Guidelines”

    https://www.pscp.tv/content

    By skimming the above I cannot see what I’ve violated w/ my banned tweet!

JW in Germany

The real litmus test will be to see if Alex Jones gets unbanned.

Valerie Curren

Yes. It should be quite interesting 😉

RDS

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/11/24/what-is-causing-the-explosion-of-rsv/
by A Midwestern Doctor

Yours Truly: The article, in part, brings up something that has been discussed on this board: that babies in utero literally get “vaccinated” from their pregnant mothers who take a COVID-19 “vaccine” and/or “booster shot”; and/or get “vaccinated” after birth via the milk of their “vaccinated” mothers if the infants are breastfed. These can all be contributing factors to this age group of very young children now coming down with RSV and other respiratory conditions.
The article also discusses the probable role of the COVID-19 “vaccines” in immune system suppression among the “vaccinated” in general — this is resulting in not only an increase in respiratory conditions, but in cancers.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, we have no idea what is going to happen to these babies.

The scientific hubris of Fauci and his gang is off the charts. The House needs to defund as much of this crap as they can.

Gail Combs

Actually we do. The WitchDoctors are going to try to convince the Moms to give them another injection of slow poison IFFFFffff/When they reach 6 months of age.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That much, we know for sure. I’m pretty sure that their general immunity will go to hell, but that remains to be proven, IMO.

GA/FL

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kalbokalbs

Nope. QTreepers know better. No chains on us.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great cartoon! STEALING!!!

para59r

GWP
Top Virologist and Member of FDA Advisory Panel Who Voted For COVID Vaccine Emergency Use Authorization Dies Suddenly from a Brief Unknown Illness

A top virologist and member of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) advisory panel who supported granting emergency use authorization for the COVID vaccine has died suddenly.

Dr. Almyra “A” Oveta Fuller, 67, an associate professor of microbiology and immunology and member of the FDA vaccine and biological products advisory committee, died suddenly on Friday morning.

Fuller died on November 18, 2022, after a brief non-COVID-related illness, according to her obituary.

She played a crucial role in securing the emergency use authorizations for the three COVID vaccines.

Obviously, we’re in a pandemic of coronavirus, and we need to use every tool available that is safe and effective,” Fuller told Michigan Daily when asked why she voted to recommend the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine for pediatric use.

“Based on the data that was presented for the clinical trials with 5- to 11-year-olds, as well as the rollout effects of the Pfizer vaccine over the last 10 months in millions of people, the benefits seem to far outweigh the risk. So I voted yes, to make that available as something that parents who choose to have their children vaccinated can do. My opinion was not so much to make it mandatory but to make it accessible,” she continued.

Dr. Fuller also favored including COVID-19 vaccinations on the CDC’s list of mandatory immunizations for school entry, according to Dr. Panda.

She also advocated for the use of the COVID vaccine among pregnant women.

She also celebrated when her colleagues voted to recommend a booster shot to stop the spread of the virus.

Read through many of the comments, did not see a crying eye in the house.

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kalbokalbs

J A B

Gail Combs

𝗞 𝗔 𝗥 𝗠 𝗔

Now she gets to explain to the Lord why she facilitated poisoning people including babies.
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TradeBait2

Oh well. Once less to bury later.

Gail Combs

snicker… You are BAD, a man after my own heart. 🤓 

kalbokalbs

Chucklin AND I know I’m not posta chuckle at this. Gotta scroll on to stop chucklin.

RDS

Unless proven otherwise, IMO, heart failure from “vaccine”–induced damage.

para59r

This is a wild story.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/howls-outrage-after-new-york-times-confirms-sbf-speak-alongside-zelenskyy-yellen-dealbook

And have a look at the list of others that will be speaking.

Here are all the other “top business and policy leaders” at the NYT whitewashing summit:

  • Eric Adams, New York City mayor
  • Ben Affleck, Artists Equity C.E.O.
  • Sam Bankman-Fried, FTX founder
  • Gerry Cardinale, RedBird Capital Partners founder, managing partner and C.I.O.
  • Shou Chew, TikTok C.E.O.
  • Larry Fink, BlackRock chairman and C.E.O.
  • Reed Hastings, Netflix founder and co-C.E.O.
  • Andy Jassy, Amazon president and C.E.O.
  • Van Jones, CNN host, author and Dream.Org founder
  • Scarlett Lewis, Jesse Lewis Choose Love Movement founder and mother of Sandy Hook shooting victim, Jesse
  • Mike Pence, 48th vice president of the United States and author of “So Help Me God”
  • Benjamin Netanyahu, former Prime Minister of Israel, current leader of the Likud party
  • Priscilla Sims Brown, Amalgamated Bank president and C.E.O.
  • Secretary Janet L. Yellen, U.S. Department of the Treasury
  • President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine
  • Mark Zuckerberg, Meta founder, chairman and C.E.O.
Gail Combs

Could the US marshals be there to arrest them and send them to GITMO to stand trial…. PLEASE?

kalbokalbs

Would be too funny, if that cast of characters were “baited” into showing up. Only to be arrested. Yea, unlikely.

Gail Combs

I was thinking good old Sam might not want to set foot in NYC WALL STREET area… Guilliani didn’t get all of the Mafia. I know that for a fact. (Relatives of a good friend….)

para59r

Everyone of them yes please.

Meantime, although everyone’s going to have eyes on Bankman Fried during this up coming event in NYC, the one to watch will be Yellen as she makes her bid for Central Bank Digital Currency.

I’m not really sure of how this summit thing plays out, but my guess is they continue on with sacrificing the cow by frying Fried, or at least what he stands for and then offer up CBDC as the panacea. The media will be like rah rah fry Fried, fry bit coin and then will applaud and demand CBDC as the punishment for all the bad out of control bit coin folk.

Sadie Slays

Hope you all had a nice Thanksgiving 🙂

kalbokalbs

It was great. Hope yours was also. Thanks.

Gail Combs

Nice, and the weather was beautiful. Sunny, mid 60s with a light wind. The trees were in their autumn glory too.

I hope you had as nice a Thanksgiving.

singingsoul1

Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving also ?
In my home we did . I made a chicken instead Turkey because of being two people the Turkey seemed to much.
We phone call from all three kids. Doctor son and his wife a doctor are in isolation they had covid. Both two jabs plus a buster. They do not see the irony so they will mask up .

Our daughter announced she will come with family for Christmas 🙂 First time in 30 years. Other kid in Ann Arbor has the week off to relax but then told me he was bored at home.

Yes we had a great Thanksgiving and something to look forward too beside the focal point the birth of Christ celebration that always come first.

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Gail Combs

Glad to hear you had a good Thanksgiving.

Hubby nixed a turkey for this year so we went out. I had a very nice piece of grilled salmon and the chef laid-off the salt as requested. It was nice to know I can eat out without overloading on salt.  🤗 

singingsoul1

That sounds good 🙂
Salmon is always good. I have lots of salmon and other fish in the freezer need to make sure i use it.

gil00

Glad that you had a pleasant day. Sounds like you will have a nice visit at Christmas.

singingsoul1

Yes I have to start cleaning the guest rooms have been using them for storage. I hit a lazy spot diverted with knitting. I know i will tear the house apart cleaning and prepping. I start tomorrow 🙂

gil00

You will be happy after its done though.

singingsoul1

Yes for sure. Need to clean out cloth . Nothing wears out and I hold on to stuff. Some of my clothe is almost 40 years old and still looks like mew but time to make space.

gil00

Oh yes. Thats hard, esp when its good quality. Time to let someone else enjoy it.

singingsoul1

So true 🙂

Valerie Curren

Wonderful news mixed in there Singing!!! Blessings

singingsoul1

Yes it is a blessing and curse 🙂 Now I have to clean up my guestrooms and since no one was coming I used it as storage 🙁 🙂 🙂 🙂

Valerie Curren

That’s a dilemma my parents run into when my brother from Oklahoma visits rarely…though he & some buddies stayed with them for a weekend about a month ago. Quite a bit of an uproar for them to prepare their home (again) but labors of love they are willing to expend for the joy of spending more time with their special son 🙂

singingsoul1

That is in our house also. With covid stopped everything. Normally so from Ann Arbor came with wife every holiday and sometimes in summer also. I was always prepared. Of course now the guest rooms are the last I touch when doing windows or shade or washing curtains. Now it has to be done. I am making myself crazy what to cook because people do not eat everything. I turn into an perfectionist and type A personality 🙂 My husband makes it easy he says ” if they do not like your food there is a restaurant in town.”

Valerie Curren

No doubt. We tried to break my mom of the short-order cook mindset but when someone has a servanthood heart (which I do not) they are often giving to others to the point of practically breaking themselves. Take care of yourself Singing & do what you can to prepare but not “too much” <3 You are amazing!!! <3

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We did! Hope that you did, too!

TradeBait2

New Heads Up covering the medical status of our grandson, wifey and me has posted for those interested in miracles.

God can handle it if we let Him. Even this mess of a country.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good! Will check it out!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Did a Twitter thread on Biden, groomers, and guns.

gil00

Remember everything that we saw on qyoo threads??? So many ads, links, etc.years ago. And at vigilant citizen. Why is it now with this 1 ad people are noticing?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s a great question.

It may literally be that the shields have been dropped at Twitter.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Kanye and Trump. Gotta hear this story!