Dear KAG: 20231011 Open Thread

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That explains the behavior of a number of dogs in my life over the years. It was there long before breeds were established.

Author note:

Again, thanks to all who pitched in and kept the dailies going in the last three weeks. As we move on to the next phase of life, I will continue to post. This movie isn’t over yet. There’s still work to do. Today’s post is going to be a little light as Ying had to make an emergency trip to the vet. The vet seems to think she’s stressed out, and probably in mourning. As of this writing, she is FINALLY resting after almost three hours of really strange behavior.

It’s always something.

Operation Trust

Biden’s Bane

Everything is Fake & Fine

Badlands News Brief

NEW POLL FINDS MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS WANT THE NEXT SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE TO BE ‘LOYAL TO DONALD TRUMP’

Retired Gen., Former CIA Director Michael Hayden Apparently Just Called For the Death of a U.S. Senator

Never did like him.

Israel Is Just the Beginning: The World Is Turning Upside Down

I actually don’t think most pundits have a clue on what is really going on right now. They’re looking too much at the surface, not enough under the waves.

Stephen Miller goes mega-viral for posting the reason why there was global peace only under Trump…

If the events of the past three years have taught me anything, it’s that when people get whipped into an emotional frenzy, critical thinking completely goes out the window.

People become highly suggestible and will rush to extremely dangerous conclusions without thinking about the consequences.

I think this is what we’re all witnessing with this situation in Israel.

Unseriousness Becomes Serious

Wall Street Professionals Increasingly “Nervous” About “Yield-Led Global Accidents”

The War On Men Is A War On Civilization

Notice Something About This Israeli War and The Gaza Conflict?

The war in Ukraine has been raging for 20 months, and not once, not even one single time, did we see simultaneous international war correspondents delivering their reporting, showing action on the front lines, donning their protective gear and taking the audience toward the battles in a similar fashion.

DP – and yet it was assembled so quickly in Israel. Not all that different from 9/11.

As Expected, Robert Kennedy Jr. Announces He Is Leaving the Democrat Party to Run as an Independent Candidate in 2024

It’s amazing how many people fell for Bobby claiming he’d take more votes from Trump than Biden. Yeah, no. His best function right now is all the red pill bombs he’s dropping.

Tweets, X-Posts, Whatever

She’s right, but this is not at all what it’s being presented as being.

Oh, yeah, we got ’em this time.

Between that and the headless babies…no.

Plenty of war propaganda is starting to circulate. Unfortunately, many Trump supporters have fallen for this fake narrative being set by the government of Israel and the fake news. Before the first war in Iraq we were given fake stories about Iraqis killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators. To justify the bombing of Syria we were given a fake story about Bashar-al-Assad gassing his own people. Lies about Muammar Gaddafi killing and raping his own people was used to destabilize and turn Libya into a slave market. They always use children and women to justify reasons for war. They will never show you one shred of evidence because the narrative is fake.

Just something to consider.

You know…at the beginning of last week, I technically didn’t own any cars, and as of tomorrow afternoon, I should own half of two. Weird.

Food for thought.

Yep.

I am gonna keep HAMMERING this point home: Same people who are NOW RUSHING VERY PUBLICLY TO ISRAEL’S DEFENSE and pledging billions of dollars to help Israel fight off Hamas… are the SAME PEOPLE…. …the same people, mind you…don’t skip over this part… …the very SAME people that spent the last few years sending Hamas and Iran hundreds of millions of dollars. And like his ‘mentor’ Obama, Biden recently decided to hand Iran back $6 billion dollars of frozen assets. Would anybody like to take a stab at guessing why that $6 billion was frozen in the first place? I’m getting tired of watching these Shadow Cabal simps quietly shoveling big $$$ at terrorist groups and outlaw regimes. And then pulling a shocked, SHOCKED! act at what these terror groups and regimes do once they get the bennies.

Not sure I agree, but anything is possible.

Uhh….

Aside from marveling that he drives his own combine….

Memes & Stuff

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

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LUKE 11:1-4

1He was praying in a certain place, and when he ceased, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” 2And he said to them, “When you pray, say: “Father, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. 3Give us each day our daily bread; 4and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive every one who is indebted to us; and lead us not into temptation.”

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

SATIRE SECTION

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cthulhu

Yay!!!! DePat’s back!!!!

We’ve been (and continue to be) worried about your welfare.

cthulhu

Thank you for sharing part of your day with us.

pat frederick

you were missed. I believe you are right about Zing. hope you both are well.

cthulhu

I hope the ceremony was worthy of its subject.

And for the step-nephew’s family — Mazel Tov, and may their tribe increase!

cthulhu

So, a family anecdote…..

My dad was working two jobs as he was courting my mom. The movie “Exodus” came out during that period, and my parents went to see it. The story goes that there is a part of the movie where Zionist partisans are sneaking around in the dark for a long while, and then throw a grenade.

Long dark sneaking in a theater is, of course, quite conducive to taking a nap, and my father took full advantage of this…..until the grenade went off and he leapt to his feet, only to discover he was the only person standing.

Note that I had yet to be born, and have never seen the film — and, yet, I know the story…..

scott467

This grenade?

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cthulhu

I’m pretty sure that the scene was more nocturnal.

scott467

In related news, this same holy hand grenade was recently bestowed upon Prince Charles.

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Cuppa Covfefe

The Orb (shades of Woody Allen)… 🙂

scott467

I had no idea that Monty Python used whatever that thing is from the English monarchy “king-me” ritual as their prop for the movie, but now that I’ve seen it, that has to be where it came from.

It’s practically identical!

Sadie Slays

It’s good to see your daily posts back, DP. Hopefully your dog starts feeling better now that the commotion is winding down.

para59r

WB! Trusts your staying frosty… 😉

TheseTruths

Sen. Tuberville is filing charges against Gen. Hayden for suggesting that Tuberville be “removed from the human race.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

9/11 Hayden is showing his true colors.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good theory!!!

para59r

Very likely. Besides all the prestigious past postings, he currently has a seat on many tables to include the Atlantic Council and News Guard to list two of the big stand outs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hayden_(general)

kalbokalbs

Three Stooges – Hayden, Clapper & Brennan.

TradeBait2

Nice response, Tubs. Let the games begin.

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TheseTruths

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TheseTruths
scott467

The Iranian spy ring used an ingenious disguise.

They took bags of crack cocaine that once belonged to Hunter Biden, and wore the bags like a medallion on a necklace.

Making the spies invisible to the FIB and Secret Service.

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pgroup2

Pretty funny.  😆 

TheseTruths

Considering everything they’ve covered up, the fact that the FIB is investigating does not instill confidence.

Cuppa Covfefe

F ind,
B ury
I nvestigations

Brave and Free

I for one have Zero confidence that investigation will go anywhere.
Just saying.

TheseTruths
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pgroup2

Damn but that is sweet!

TheseTruths
piper567

God bless Rand Paul, but I will believe Anthony Fauci getting his just desserts when it happens.

pgroup2

You are such a realist. Try imagining winning for a change.

/s

Aubergine

The monster will certainly get his when he dies. Of that, I am certain.

PAVACA

One would not be surprised to learn that Anthony Fauci is pursuing obtaining Dual Citizenship with Italy via his (deceased) Italian grandparent.

TheseTruths

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Trump increasingly highlights Obama’s role.

scott467

I would be posting this Stephen Colbert interview every day.

The one where Hussein the islamic Usurper openly admits that he would love to have a third term where he pulled the strings from behind the scenes, while someone else gave the speeches and dealt with the press.

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He’d be ‘fine’ with that.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Everything he did was AGAINST AMERICA. And that’s exactly what’s happening now.

mollypitcher5

It’s genius that he had Joe installed. He’s so inept and flawed ( by design ) that he was immediately shielded from criticism. He’s been able to inflict massive damage with very little blowback in part because he’s a bumbling idiot.

Cuppa Covfefe

And towel-boy can run things from just down the street…

When he bought that mansion just down the street, that should have been a red flag to be all red flags…

Valerie Curren

He Never stopped being “in charge”, at least via SES, to thwart Trump at every turn  😡 

Cuppa Covfefe

I think that Ferret Jarret is playing a big role in this, too…

And what exactly did the Awans steal… or what backdoors did they leave… with Øbøzø as the Moose-Slime-in-chief, there are probably a ton of strings being pulled from Mohammedan sources… who themselves are probably being pulled from even higher (or lower) sources (sort of like Zachariah Skull in “Night Of The Puppeteer”)…

Valerie Curren

yep & all of aka BHO’s Muslim Brotherhood embeds in all levels of the government  😡 

PAVACA

Once again, IMO, POTUS45 nails it.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WHOA.

There may be a point here.

But perhaps there is a difference that we need to be thinking about!

For years we complained about the GIRLS in England and Sweden being raped and beaten and it was NOT A PROBLEM – especially to the media.

And now that it happens to fellow Israelis when Israeli intelligence (which had nothing to do with 9/11, mind you) failed to act, and….

Hmmmm. This is troubling! What’s going on?

scott467

islamic rape of Europe is part of the plan, so that gets covered up.

islamic rape of Israel is for generating war machine $$$, so it’s not covered up, it’s spotlighted.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK. There we go.

Aubergine

Yet both are happening, media coverage or not.

Cuppa Covfefe

Happens every day here in Germany.

New Years’ Eve 2015 into 2016, at the beginning of the invasion, in the city of Köln (Cologne) in the courtyard of the Cathedral there, no less, the Moslems did gang rapes which here are called “antanzen”, dancing to/around.

What they would do is form three concentric rings around the victim(s), with the inner ring doing the actual acts of rape, the middle ring hiding and guarding them, and the outside ring doing lookout and defense.

Some wag said it was a national sport in the Moslem world; now I think he wasn’t kidding.

And the idiotic Merkelian gubmint at the time suggested that women were at fault, and should keep and arms’ length away from others (sound familiar? the six-foot rule [OK two arms]).

And all that happens now is the perps go into the overfilled psychiatric wards, get no punishment whatsoever, escape, and do their dirty deeds again. And the media look the other way, or blame the victims, saying the poor poor refauxgees have PTSD and deserve TLC.

Rape is never tender, loving, nor caring…

mollypitcher5

Permission granted to condemn rape for war $ machine

singingsoul1

They also rape girls and women in Germany and no one does anything.
No outrage in Europe.
Why wonder there is not enough outrage about pedophilia in this country.

Cuppa Covfefe

The rapists get sent to the Psychiatrie, then are let free or break out within months, to steal, stab, rape, and kill again… Protected class a la Coudenhove-Kalergi and Cloward-Piven… “Courtesy” of Merde-Kuh…..

singingsoul1

They will not stop. They are sexually messed up.

Alison

Welcome back, DPat … 💖💖

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

TheseTruths

Rep. Ronny Jackson:

HUGE WIN! Earlier in the year, in conjunction with @America1stLegal

, I SUED the Biden Administration for ILLEGALLY & knowingly funding Palestinian terror. Today, a US District Court judge granted our motion to begin discovery. Biden FULLY FUNDED the fatal attacks against Israel. THIS IS ON HIM!!

pgroup2

Well, that little blurb about the current crisis in Israel is sufficient to reverse on appeal, if this had been a final order. Ronny Jackson & crew better hope the judge keeps his “observations” to himself for the rest of the case.

TheseTruths

BREAKING: Joe Biden emailed businesses associated with Hunter, Jim Biden 29,000 times while VP

Biden reportedly sent or received 19,335 emails from Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden’s investment firm, 4,243 emails from Hunter Biden himself, 1,751 emails from Jim Biden, and 3,738 emails from Jim Biden’s Lion Hall Group.

Biden and his White House have repeatedly claimed that the then-VP had no connection to his son’s businesses. They have further said that he has no knowledge now about his son’s foreign business dealings, even as Hunter faces scrutiny over potential FARA violations for his lucrative work in China, Ukraine and Kazakhstan.

In response to America First Legal’s post, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene wrote, “Joe Biden’s Vice President Office emailed Hunter Biden and Jim Biden businesses OVER 29,000 TIMES! Not his personal email. Biden’s VP email. The Big Guy was definitely involved. Heavily.”

More about JB’s connections at the link.

scott467

I don’t think I’ve written 29,000 emails in my entire life.

Even if you were sending 10 emails every single day, it would take almost 8 years to send that many emails.

It would be interesting to look at the most recent emails, to see if 10% Joe is competently running the bribery schemes, in which case the whole mafia Don in a bathrobe dementia routine is all for show.

TheseTruths

Catturd:

My dog Pedro is going nuts barking into the woods at my back fence line. Been going on all morning. That usually means one thing – bear.

Here’s a monster Pedro chased into the woods when he was younger. There’s some huge bears around here.

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cthulhu

Oh, c’mon — that animal is bearly there.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. That dog should just grin and bear it…

pgroup2

[groan]

pat frederick

looks about average size around here. we had a 600 pound cinnamon bear in our pond last summer. eating my irises–yanking them right out of the ground. I went out on the deck yelling at the bear to leave. nothing. I went inside got my 2 biggest pots and went out and banged them together. it looked at me and continued munching. hubby came out and fired off his gun (which was later lost in a terrible boating accident). THAT got its attention. he moseyed out of the pond and went back into the woods.
that 600 pound bear was shot during bear season that winter.

pgroup2

A couple rounds of birdshot would have got its attention without serious damage.

I would not have let the felony flower eater get off with a scary noise probation.

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TheseTruths

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12617253/seal-team-six-delta-force-israel-hostages.html

The United States is readying its special forces to help Israel locate American hostages, as waves of Israeli Defense Force reservists arrived at JFK airport in New York to join the fight against Hamas.

Two senior U.S. military officials told The Messenger that ‘door kickers’ have been put on standby in a nearby European country, ready to assist Israel if necessary in their battle against Hamas. The Israeli death toll rose to 1,200 on Tuesday.

The military sources told the website that there was currently no indication the U.S. special forces would be sent to Israel, but they were only a few hours away by plane if need be. 

The military officials would not confirm which units were being readied, but said they fell under the Joint Special Operations Command.

The two main counterterrorism units under the Joint Special Operations Command are the Army’s Delta Force, and the Navy’s SEAL Team Six – which was dispatched to kill Osama bin Laden.

Lloyd Austin, the Defense Secretary, said on Tuesday that the U.S. had also sent hostage negotiators to help the Israeli specialists. 

Twenty Americans remain missing in Israel following the weekend’s Hamas attack, including some whose relatives say they have been taken hostage. 

Austin said the U.S. has ‘people on the ground’ who will assist Israeli authorities ‘with intelligence and planning’ for potential operations involving hostage rescue efforts. 

The U.S. hostage negotiators will work alongside a team already in place, working out of the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv, The Messenger reported.

Austin said the Pentagon has a ‘liaison cell’ in Israel working with Israeli special operations forces. 

Austin also said the U.S. has the ability to ‘rapidly deploy other resources into the region.’ 

President Joe Biden has dispatched the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford and five guided-missile cruisers and destroyers to the scene, and they arrived on Tuesday.

Much more at the link.

pgroup2

The US embassy is NOT in Tel Aviv. This huge falsity makes me question the veracity of the entire article.

Also, we had much closer rescue teams during the Libya mess in 2012. Distance is much less important physically than it is politically.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I checked to see if they refer to it as a consulate. Apparently Tel Aviv is now a “branch office”.

https://il.usembassy.gov/

pgroup2

Okay, so he gets off on a technicality.

Cuppa Covfefe

Bye, Done reversing progress by VSGPDJT yet again…

scott467

“The United States is readying its special forces to help Israel locate American hostages,”

____________

Yeah baby…

When seconds count, special forces are only a week or more away.

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“as waves of Israeli Defense Force reservists arrived at JFK airport in New York to join the fight against Hamas.”

__________

I didn’t even realize Hamas had taken over JFK airport in New York.

Things are really moving fast.

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pgroup2

LMAO about the airport snark.  😁 

scott467

“Lloyd Austin, the Defense Secretary, said on Tuesday that the U.S. had also sent hostage negotiators to help the Israeli specialists.”

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Because Lloyd’s Woke Negotiators (LWN’s) are experts in male dominated islamic murder culture.

Lloyd’s wokesters will be the ones wearing the pink pussy hats in the streets of Gaza 👍

Cuppa Covfefe

I’m sure Annalena Baerbock’s Feminist Foreign Ministry will be there with libturd counselors (womyn, of course) to help out…

scott467

Oh yes, by all means, send in the wymyns, they’ll take care of it.

They’ll teach Hamas a thing or two about women’s lib.

scott467

“Austin said the U.S. has ‘people on the ground’ who will assist Israeli authorities ‘with intelligence and planning’ for potential operations involving hostage rescue efforts.”

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Because military academy graduates with degrees in kneeling & apology know the back alleys of Gaza like the back of their rainbow-colored feather boas.

Which they’ll be wearing as part of the uniform.

Israel is lucky to have them 👍

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cthulhu

Were I in the IDF, I wouldn’t share any hostage-rescue information with anyone outside the IDF — and that, within a very small circle of “need-to-know”. If I were to share it with the US, I would expect it to show up in the NYT in short order.

Cuppa Covfefe

Just like they did with preventing it happening in the first place…. 😡 😡 😡 😡

scott467

“The U.S. hostage negotiators will work alongside a team already in place, working out of the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv, The Messenger reported.”

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Shhh.

Nobody tell The Messenger that the U.S. embassy isn’t in Tel Aviv.

Let’s see how long it takes them to figure it out…

scott467

“Austin said the Pentagon has a ‘liaison cell’ in Israel working with Israeli special operations forces.”

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Austin Powers, that is.

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scott467

“President Joe Biden has dispatched the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford and five guided-missile cruisers and destroyers to the scene, and they arrived on Tuesday.”

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Slap your mouth, Joe Biden did no such thing.

Joe Biden couldn’t dispatch a deuce in his Depends without being told when and where to do it.

PAVACA

Lloyd Austin, aka “Idi Amin Austin?” The one who ordered the U.S. military to be “vaccinated” against COVID-19? THAT Lloyd Austin?

Cuppa Covfefe

“The United States is readying its special forces to help Israel locate American hostages”

That has to be the most stupid-a$$ed thing anyone could do; announcing something like that. Only a woke idiot like high-heel-ed thilley Milley would be capable of such incompetence… or, perhaps, others bent on the Øbamanatiøn of the military…

Loose lips…..

pgroup2

Our best men …

Cuppa Covfefe

Fe-men…..

TheseTruths

https://archive.ph/FsCEK

At first the people of Gaza were happy about the strikes, and then:

Gazans quickly realized that the abductions and the number of fatalities in Israel would lead to a very severe blow to Gaza in which Israel would not take into account the non-combatant population. “People were scared. They went to buy food in the supermarkets.” Maha says that Gazans still don’t comprehend the magnitude of the incident. “We will pay very heavily. It will be collective punishment.” 

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cthulhu

If they want to avoid “collective punishment”, it’s very simple. Find all the hostages, seize them, and turn them in at Israeli checkpoints; then find anyone who took part in the atrocities — from planning and financing to operations to subsequent PR — and hang them, turning their bodies in at Israeli checkpoints with all relevant documentation.

If this is not done, the logical implication is that you support these atrocities — and, then, it’s not “collective punishment” any more.

pgroup2

YESSS!!!!

Aubergine

AMEN!!!!

cthulhu

Alternatively, as Students for Justice in Palestine would have it:

“[W]e reject the distinction between ‘civilian’ and ‘militant.’”

https://freebeacon.com/campus/columbia-law-dean-does-damage-control-after-mealy-mouthed-israel-statement/

para59r

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pgroup2

Allow me to point out that those cows do not appear to be the ones that provide meat for human consumption.

Robert Baker

I agree those cows would be involved (milk shakes and biscuits) but not committed.

pgroup2

LoL

Cuppa Covfefe

Free flying lessons…

No plane needed…

Maybe they could carpet-bomb Gaza with all those unsold cases of Dud-Lite QueerBeer…

rayzorback

Tranny Fluid.

Cuppa Covfefe

Corrective punishment…

PAVACA

TheseTruths
Thank you for bringing this.
What the Palestinians of Gaza need to realize is that, once a jihad is begun, it is “unfortunate but possibly necessary” that regular Muslims can be sacrificed by their jihadi co-religionists in the pursuit of total conquest of the world for Allah. .

TheseTruths

Yes!

scott467

What Palestinians, and indeed all muslims need to realize, is that the founder of their murder cult taught rape and murder of anyone who did not convert to his Satanic death cult.

That makes islam the enemy of humankind.

That makes anyone who practices islam, ‘regular’ or not, an enemy of mankind.

Because there is no ‘nice kind’ of rape and murder.

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kalbokalbs

^^^ Bottom Line. ^^^

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m sure they realize this.

One of the five pillars of Islam is charity (IIRC the word is zakat)…but there’s a catch. It has to be done the right way, with a share going to support Jihad. That gets the average Muslim off the hook from having to go out and fight.

Cuppa Covfefe

10 percent for the bad guy(s)…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Actually, IIRC it’s 1/8th. Even “better.”

scott467

“I’m sure they realize this.”

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That’s the key.

If they realize it, then they can be shamed into leaving the death cult. Because there is no credible defense for participating in an organization whose founding principles include rape and murder.

None.

It can’t be done.

It wouldn’t even be possible for islamic people to visit non-islamic societies, if so many good people didn’t remain silent (or willfully ignorant) about the vicious horror of islam.

It is those who don’t realize it that won’t renounce this bestial belief system so easily.

But those who know will.

They just need a reason.

Having the entire planet HATE YOU and OSTRACIZE you is a good reason, if the People of the world decided that heinous, violent, raping and murdering genocidal islam has no place in the 21st century.

And the next step toward recovery is being honest enough to admit that islam never had a place in any other century, either.

Shame on anyone who EVER supported this heinous anti-human belief system.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You think they can be shamed?

They believe it just as passionately as you believe in Christianity. Not one bit less.

Would you stop being a Christian if the whole planet were to ostracize you for it?

No? Then why should you expect them to?

If Allah wants it, it is *good* regardless of their qualms.

scott467

“You think they can be shamed?”

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You betcha.

If they are human, they can be shamed, if what they have done is worthy of shame and condemnation.

Except for the psychopaths, of course.

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“They believe it just as passionately as you believe in Christianity. Not one bit less.”

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So they’re all over the map, some believe strongly, some just enough to not get brutalized by their own ‘friends’ and family, and everyone else somewhere in between.

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scott467

“Would you stop being a Christian if the whole planet were to ostracize you for it?”

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No, I wouldn’t, but then Christianity and islam are not equatable.

For one thing, a great many muslims are only muslim because they cannot leave islam without putting themselves in danger from other muslims.

Nothing more should be required to delegitimize any belief system, than that adherents are threatened with bodily harm if they leave ‘the faith’.

However, if the whole planet was to ostracize anyone who believed and practiced Christianity, I suspect that the majority (maybe even a large majority) would stop believing and practicing it.

Because people are people, and as we have all seen since Covid, people are highly influencable via social control mechanisms, and people who resist such social controls are a distinct minority.

Back to islam. Just because a claim is made, doesn’t mean it can withstand critical scrutiny.

The Old and New Testament have withstood harsher and more critical scrutiny than any other writings in the history of the world, by far.

Almost no one subjects islamic writings to any scrutiny at all, because islamic psychopaths threaten to murder those who would.

Imagine a flat earther who said if you critically examine his claims, he’ll kill you. And so will his 1.2 billion friends.

So right there you’ve got a serious problem that discredits the entire belief system. Its adherents are so murder-crazed that no one of any academic or similar authority can publicly critically examine islam without endangering his own life.

That’s a dead giveaway to any honest heart. If they truly believed their own teaching, then what do they have to fear from examination of their beliefs?

The Koran couldn’t even exist without the author having prior knowledge of the Old and New Testament, in the same way that Joseph Smith’s religion couldn’t exist without having prior knowledge of the Old and New Testament, either.

Neither one are original works, they are both derivative.

Joseph Smith claims to have received his information from an angel called ‘Moroni’, if I remember correctly.

Do you know what the Book of Mormon says on the opening page?

“The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ.”
(underline and boldface emphasis mine)

What does the actual Word of God, which Joseph Smith was familiar with, say about that?

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“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8-9, KJV)
(underline and boldface emphasis mine)
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So an honest heart has to choose who to believe.

Do you believe the inspired Word of God, which after nearly 2,000 years remains unbroken (and much longer for the Old Testament)?

Or do you believe the words of Joseph Smith, who contradicts the Word of God?

Same logic works for islam.

The books of islam contradict themselves all over the place, and could not even exist without knowledge of the OT and the NT, because they are derivative works.

So an honest heart has to choose who to believe.

Do you believe the inspired Word of God, which remains unbroken?

Or do you believe the words of Mo?

If you believe the words of Mo, you have some problems.

First, you have to break the Scriptures (OT and NT), proving they are not what they claim to be, that is, the Word of God.

No one has succeeded yet.

Then, after proving it, the believer of Mo has to establish the credibility of Mo, and do so to an even higher degree of proof than the OT and NT have established, since the believer in Mo must necessarily argue that the degree to which the OT and NT were established was insufficient, if believers in Mo ever succeed in proving God’s Word to be false.

The next problem is, if muslims claim allah is the same God as revealed in the OT and NT, then why didn’t God start with islam?

Did God, Who is perfect, make a mistake, which needed to be corrected with islam?

I can hear the objection now, could the same argument not be made regarding the Old and New Testaments? It could, unless the OT prophesied and foreshadowed and revealed that there would be a new covenant/testament, and that new covenant/testament actually fulfilled the prophecies of the old covenant/testament.

No such argument can be made regarding the NT and islam, there is no prophesy in the NT about another revelation (islam) to come, and nothing taught in the NT is fulfilled in islam.

Or do they claim that the Word of God was corrupted? Is God, being all powerful and almighty, incapable of ensuring His Word is preserved through time?

If He wasn’t capable when the OT and NT were written, why would He be any more capable when He ‘fixed it’ by creating islam?

If the OT and NT are corrupted, why isn’t the Koran corrupted, if it was ‘revealed’ by the same God?

Beyond that, believers of Mo will have to provide more evidence and more proofs of the word of Mo than there is evidence and proof for the Word of God.

And there’s a LOT of evidence and proofs for the Word of God, more so (by far) than any other ancient writings. By orders of magnitude.

Do you suppose the believers of Mo can do that?

How could anyone ever know, since they’ll just murder anyone who questions their proofs and evidence?

If they are not willing to allow their beliefs to be critically examined without murdering the examiners, then how can they be taken seriously by anyone, most of all themselves?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“Or do you believe the words of Joseph Smith, who contradicts the Word of God?

Same logic works for islam.”

They “solve” this by maintaining that the Bible (both testaments) has been systematically corrupted over the centuries; that even someone like Abraham was actually Muslim all portrayals in our (corrupted) Bible to the contrary.

Do you see how that works? They see a fact: that the Bibles today disagree with what their “prophet” said–and simply ignore the authority you’re appealing to. As you ignore theirs, which is where they claim yours is corrupted.

This is why it’s futile to try to use logic on ANY person whose primary epistemic mode is faith in an arbitrary assertion.

scott467

“They “solve” this by maintaining that the Bible (both testaments) has been systematically corrupted over the centuries;”

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And they were proven to be wrong by the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls, which proved that the text we have today is extraordinarily accurate compared to the texts which had not been been touched for 2,000+ years.

So they were proven wrong, with tangible evidence.

What is their answer to that?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, the Dead Sea Scrolls only cover the OT, of course…and that had centuries to get corrupted *before* the Dead Sea Scrolls.

*I* am not claiming that, but I suspect that would be their counter-argument.

But it wouldn’t matter to them anyway because the real reason they believe what they believe is that they are convinced God told it to them through Mohammed.

scott467

“that even someone like Abraham was actually Muslim all portrayals in our (corrupted) Bible to the contrary.

Do you see how that works?”

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I see an unsubstantiated claim.

Anyone can claim anything.

They could claim that pigs fly too, and such a claim retains the same value as their claim about Abraham, until or unless they substantiate it.

How can they substantiate it?

Do they have any independent evidence from the time of Abraham, proving the OT accounts to be wrong?

No, they do not.

Not only does no such evidence exist for Abraham, but in truth, no archeological or other evidence has been discovered about anything in the OT or NT which has proven either Testament false.

This would be an extraordinary thing in any other context, where the the objective observer was not so biased against the Scripture.

Take ALL of the texts of ancient civilization, practically everything we know about humanity’s past, the works of the ancient Greeks and everyone else.

In nearly all cases, only 5 or fewer copies (or fragments of copies) exist. None, not a single one, is an original writing. And of those few existing copies, the majority are at least 500 years to a thousand years removed from the original writing, if I remember correctly.

And nearly all of our knowledge of the ancient world comes from such writings, which scientists and academic specialists acknowledge as accurate history.

Then there are the Scriptures, the 66 books that make up the Bible.

These books were copied so extensively that hundreds of thousands of ancient fragments have survived and been discovered, in addition to whole books.

The last time I checked (maybe 10 years ago), the oldest fragment yet discovered was from the gospel of John, dating to 125 AD, or approximately 25 years after the last Apostle is thought to have died, within living memory of people who knew the Apostles and heard them teach and preach.

The amount of evidence for the Scriptures is orders of magnitude greater than even the most prolific evidence for other ancient writings. So if one is to discount the authenticity and veracity of the Scriptures, one must necessarily also discount all of the other ancient texts for which orders of magnitude less evidence exists, rendering us effectively blind with regard to the history of human civilization.

Because scholars cannot look at other ancient texts for which there are few surviving copies that were written hundreds or even over a thousand years after the original, and consider them authentic and valid, while discounting the 66 ancient books of Scripture, for which far greater (and earlier) evidence exists.

The surviving writings of 1st and 2nd century Christians quoted Scripture so extensively that nearly the entire New Testament can be pieced together from the quotes in their writings, no different than the way people quote them here at WQTH today.

These things (and many, many more) for the NT, along with the Dead Sea scrolls proving the accuracy of the text of the OT, soundly refute the arbitrary claims of Joseph Smith and modern day islamists.

It’s not a case of ‘he said, she said’, it is a case of put up or shut up.

The Scriptures remain unbroken.

Mo and Joseph Smith can claim whatever they like, anyone can claim anything, but until or unless they can substantiate their claims, why should anyone assign any credibility to their claims?

Do you see the difference between the vast amount of evidence for the 66 books of the Bible, and the lack of evidence supporting the claims of Joseph Smith and islam?

Do you acknowledge the vast difference between evidence which professional scholars, even those who are hostile toward Christianity recognize, and unsubstantiated claims made by Joseph Smith or islam?

scott467

“They see a fact: that the Bibles today disagree with what their “prophet” said–and simply ignore the authority you’re appealing to.”

______________

A) the Bible today is demonstrably the same collection of books as existed in the 1st century.

B) where inconsistencies or errors exist, they are nearly all errors of copying, i.e., errors of grammar or spelling

C) to my knowledge, NO error that impacts doctrine or belief has ever been discovered

The writings of Mo came some 500+ years after the New Testament was complete.

The writings of Joseph Smith came some 1,700+ years after the New Testament was complete.

Without the New Testament, Joe and Mo would not even know who Jesus was.

If their knowledge comes from the Scriptures, and they claim the Scriptures are corrupt, then likewise is their knowledge of Jesus necessarily called into question.

Unless they claim to be the recipients of some new revelation, which they both do.

But their new revelation is claimed to be from the same God Who is the Author of the 66 books of the Bible, so if that same God could not prevent the Bible from being corrupted, then by what reason of logic is He able to keep the writings of Joe or Mo from being corrupted?

They can’t have it both ways, not rationally or defensibly. They can’t claim that God, being perfect, screwed up the first time (OT) and the second time (NT) but got it right the 3rd time (islam) and the 4th time (Mormonism).

Who has evidence to support their claims?

Not Joseph Smith. He could not produce the supposed plates that contained the writing he claimed to have received from the angel Moroni.

So all we have as evidence to support Joseph Smith’s claims is the word of Joseph Smith.

And that’s not good enough.

What about Mo?

Where is his evidence?

If he has any, in order for it to be considered valid, he must first prove that the preexisting Scriptures are corrupted, which necessitated his supposed ‘new’ revelation.

He can’t prove that, and neither can any of his followers, to this day.

In fact, the evidence that the Scriptures we have today are the same as in the 1st century (and not corrupted) has only increased with the passage of time.

The Dead Sea scrolls had not been discovered yet, when Joseph Smith was alive.

Many archeological discoveries had not yet been discovered, when Mo or Joe were alive.

Like the Pilate stone. Until it was discovered in 1961, lots of scholars disputed that Pilate ever existed. Because of their bias, and because no direct evidence existed outside of the Scriptures.

People like to say that the Scriptures cannot be evidence for themselves because it would be self-referencing, but that is untenable.

The 66 books of the Bible are each individual ancient writings, not one writing. So the book of Matthew and the book of Mark and the book of Luke and the book of John are four separate ancient writings, bearing witness and testimony to many of the same historic events, not one book bearing witness to itself.

But those who are biased against the Scriptures are strongly motivated to be that way, because if they admit the Scriptures are true and the authentic Word of God, that knowledge and acceptance would have profound consequences for their own lives.

And they don’t want that.

So they are naturally (and strongly) biased against the Scriptures from the get-go.

They are hostile critics, which almost all critics are, and yet even the most harsh and hostile critics have not succeeded in breaking the Scriptures.

Nobody really tries to ‘break’ the islamic writings, besides Salmon Rushdie, because nobody outside of islam takes it seriously.

Just as nobody outside of the Mormon church takes Mormonism seriously.

But why do so many people, throughout time, take the Scriptures so seriously, that many academics have devoted their entire professional lives in the vain attempt to break them?

What is it about the Scriptures that is so different from the religions of men, such that God’s Word must be destroyed by any means possible?

They claimed Pilate didn’t exist. They never could substantiate that claim, but they made that claim anyway, right up until the moment they couldn’t do so any longer:

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“Until the summer of 1961, absolutely no archaeological evidence existed that would demonstrate that Pontius Pilate, a pivotal figure in the New Testament gospels, ever really existed. Some literary sources mention him — including a few brief allusions in Jewish material (e.g., Josephus) and in late Roman chronicles (e.g., Tacitus) — but no administrative records survive from him and no genuine letters of his have been preserved. Plenty of Roman ruins exist in Israel, but none bears his name, and a historical Pilate isn’t required to account for them.

He has loomed large in subsequent Christian thought and legend. One thinks, for example, of the memorable opening line of Sir Francis Bacon’s early 17th-century essay “Of truth”: “What is truth? said jesting Pilate, and would not stay for an answer.”
But did he really even exist? Critics eager to dismiss the New Testament Gospels as imaginative fiction (along with their accounts of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ) were only too happy to point to the lack of evidence for Pilate as support for their broader dismissal.

In June 1961, however, while working in the Mediterranean seaside ruins of Caesarea Maritima, a team led by the Italian archaeologist Antonio Frova found a sizable piece of limestone — slightly more than 0.8 meters wide and somewhat less than 0.7 meters high — that bears the name of “Pontius Pilatus.” The Latin inscription read as follows:

To the Divine Augusti (this) Tiberieum
… Pontius Pilate
… prefect of Judea
… has dedicated (this)
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[more at this link]

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“What is it about the Scriptures that is so different from the religions of men, such that God’s Word must be destroyed by any means possible?”

I go out on a limb here, speaking to the motivation of others, but I have heard similar questions about other aspects…questions like “If you don’t think God is real why do you spend so much time…” I’ve seen atheists address *that* and I suspect their reasoning is similar here. They claim that the issue isn’t God so much as what some people will do believing they are acting in his name,

And I have seen enough such shit (fortunately not from people on this site) that I entirely understand their thinking.

In point of fact this sort of thing done by Muslims is a large part of the reason WE spend so much time trying to discredit their beliefs. (“Why do you care so much about Allah if you don’t think he’s real? Why do you care so much about Muhammad if you don’t think he’s really a prohpeht?” you can readily imaigine them asking.) We’ve certainly been able to convince ourselves its bullshit, the problem is trying to convince them.

scott467

“As you ignore theirs, which is where they claim yours is corrupted.”

________

It is not that I ignore theirs, they, like anyone else, have an affirmative obligation to substantiate their claims, if they expect anyone to accept them.

It is not even possible to do so in an environment where if any recognized authority questions their claims, they receive death threats.

So once again, we are not dealing with men of good faith on the islamic side, and anyone who would equate the substantiated evidence for the Scriptures and the historicity of Christ with the unsubstantiated claims of Mo — claims which cannot even be examined without putting one’s life in danger — only damages his own credibility in the process.

No rational or honest person can equate the Scriptures, which beg to be examined by anyone who will do so, and the writings of Mo, which may get you murdered if you don’t swallow the purple Kool-Aid.

scott467

“This is why it’s futile to try to use logic on ANY person whose primary epistemic mode is faith in an arbitrary assertion.”

_________________

The evidence for Christian belief (and Jewish belief before it) does not hide itself, it begs to be examined.

More evidence is being discovered practically every day.

None of that evidence has anything to do with arbitrary assertions.

Please beware the danger of equating the Scriptures — for which vast amounts of evidence exists — with the unsubstantiated claims of religions of men, just so you can dismiss them together.

They are not equal, or even similar.

mollypitcher5

They were given warning to leave Gaza.

scott467

“People were scared.”

_____________

Not nearly so scared as the hostages across the street from you.

Why don’t you go save them?

Show the whole world that you aren’t in bed with the Hamas-ISIS monsters who committed this crime against humanity?

Cuppa Covfefe

To paraphrase a bit of computer jargon, they can go FsCEK themselves…

eilert

One of the replies of the BurningBright Teet you refenced Q’s post
It is not a fake Qpost:and it is nearly 5 years to the day:
https://qanon.pub/?q=Media%20assets

pgroup2

What does it mean, five years ahead of time?

Is Q a prophet?

Are prophets time travelers?

If not, what other explanation can there be?

Valerie Curren

Project Looking Glass???

Ozzytrumpster

Deepest condolences depat.
saw that enormous numbers of Hamas terrorists are surrendering. Someone has thought this out. Fight- they get killed,, surrender they get dealt with by courts and have a presumption of innocence. The financial burden of trials and imprisonment would cripple bill gates

cthulhu

…..have video of hostage executions, have a ready supply for 100-for-1 payback…..

Ozzytrumpster

But are they wearing their usual face masks? Can they be positively identified?
personally I’d send them out into the Mediterranean- gradually. Now the orcas have figured out they are food

cthulhu
Ozzytrumpster

Dangerous game. You are depriving the apex predator of a snack and you are sitting in a rubber boat

cthulhu

If they’re turning themselves in, why should identification be a problem?

(or presumption of innocence, for that matter?)

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Cuppa Covfefe

And they’ll end up swimming to Lampedusa, and then get shipped to Europe…

Send them farther away, say, the Falklands and have them count Penguins (or look for polar bears, not telling them which pole they’re at)…

para59r

Yep!
But not happening. Instead they are calling for a world uprising on Friday the 13th.

Stay Frosty: Hamas Leader Khalid Mashal Calls on Muslims Worldwide to Rise Up on Friday the 13th [VIDEO]

Cuppa Covfefe

Good to see you back, DePat, and hope and pray things are getting better (and that you’re getting some rest).

G&Ts or a pitcher of Margaritas would be nice 🙂

Cheers  🍸 

pgroup2

So Friday is National Concealed Carry Day?

scott467

Open carry, I’d say.

Rifles.

scott467

Good, let’s do it.

The whole World vs. islam.

Be there, or be square.

Valerie Curren

Thank you De Pat for another great open. God be with you & your family  🙏 

mollypitcher5

As Cuppa says..car BBQs

scott467

CarBQs 👍

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pgroup2

One of the commenters there pointed out that the place lived up to its name – Terminal Car Park. I just LoLed.

Cuppa Covfefe

Architect probably bellowed out “I am the Terminalator” after he finished the design 🙂

Back in the 1980s I picked up a colleague at Heathrow, where the carpark had just been renovated. In the UK (at least then) it was a MAJOR ticket to ignore signage (typical brit thing; even a policeman cannot countermand a red light!). As it turns out, following the signage resulted in an endless loop 😡

So after a few loops I’d reached escape velocity, and said sod it, I’m exiting here.

My colleague was stunned/disappointed/horrified… I just laughed… but still watchful for the parkinglotnazis…

[I think someone probably fiddled the signs… but the way they deal with traffic up there… e.g. where we’d use 10 or 20 traffic cones, spread apart by 5-10 feet, they’d use a couple hundred, right next to each other… sigh]…..

mollypitcher5

Climate change, although the most pressing threat ( other than MAGA ) is on the back burner for now…until the Libtards bring it back in re the poor Palestinians living in a manmade desert or something stupid

barkerjim

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Useful!

Aubergine

We all need to recognize what the Crusaders knew over a thousand years ago; this is a Holy War. The followers of islam DO NOT want peace. They want a worldwide caliphate. That means you, Christians and Jews, must become believers in allah.

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TradeBait2

^^^ This.

We turn to the Lord of peace and life. They turn to their god of power and death.

The two cannot peacefully co-exist in their current states.

rayzorback

Our God (Jesus) died for us…..
They die for their moon god allah

Cuppa Covfefe

And each time they’ve invaded Europe, it’s taken 600 years to get rid of them.

Thanks (NOT) Merde-Kuh…

scott467

That’s because the People didn’t get rid of their criminal leaders.

It was much harder to do way back then, you basically had to get within sword-stabbing distance, and the criminal leaders, knowing this, didn’t let people with swords get that close to them.

The invention of the gun, also called an ‘equalizer’, changed all that.

The gun did not require extensive training or athletic ability like sword fighting did, it could be used effectively by just about anyone who could point and pull a trigger.

People knew this and understood what it meant, up until WWII.

Then suddenly, with a momentary exception in 1963, amnesia came over the People of the world, and everyone forgot that tyrants could be relocated to a subterranean box if they became too tyrannical.

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Aubergine

We need better exterminators this time!

scott467

And radical deprogramming.

Expose the truth about the false murder cult of islam to the whole world.

Shame and humiliate islam to the point that no one would be caught dead advocating for it, much less practice it.

Normally this would be hard to do, but islam makes it easy, every time they murder and rape someone in the name of their religion, which is every day of the year.

islam could not be more helpful in demonizing itself to the point that humankind should officially recognize that islam is the most vile and disgusting cult ever created by man, and anyone who would be part of such a murderous rape cult has no place among people who live by the rule of Law.

Then pick a deserted island, and banish anyone who practices islam to that island, until they renounce islam.

Peer pressure is ridiculously powerful and effective on the sheep of this world, which shockingly, most people are (sheep).

Just look at what the sheep have done since covid for an example.

Now imagine what the sheep would do to islam and anyone who practiced it, if people in positions of power and authority exposed the truth about islam and condemned it in the strongest way possible.

Imagine setting a whole world full of Karens loose on islam.

islam wouldn’t stand a chance.

Truly violent muzzies are a minority of muzzies, but the non-violent muzzies are too afraid of the violent ones to do anything about it.

But Karens are EVERYWHERE.

Most violent people are cowards when they’re alone and challenged by a group.

Karens are always in groups, because most people are Karens. We’ve all seen it.

islam wouldn’t stand a chance against a full-court press of civilization.

All it takes is the will to do it, the will to condemn islam openly and directly, everywhere, and all the time.

Shame the practice of islam into extinction.

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mollypitcher5

Hate to be that person..but little by little the msm talking heads are injecting sympathy for the gazans. You know, the feelz for all of the mothers and kids being in a war zone. Yep all those moms that are soo proud of their young boys who will soon be raping ang shooting and their daughters living in an archaic situation being married off before they even they’re teens.

Cuppa Covfefe

They teach the little Moslem boys to throw rocks and stones and how to behead animals and humans at a VERY early age.

The hate is inbred.

As are many of the children…

scott467

I certainly don’t expect the MSM to lead the charge against islam.

It would take a man of courage to do that, to go first.

Then others would feel less afraid, and join in the condemnation.

Then when the other cowards saw that the cool people were condemning islam, they would join too.

But someone has to stand up to the bully islam first.

Then others will follow.

Cuppa Covfefe

Just like that French satire magazine a few years back?

scott467

No idea what you’re referring to.

If you’re right, that’s the problem, nobody knows about it, because it wasn’t someone with enough social gravitas to break through the delusion.

Robert Baker
Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. That’s who it was.

And they WERE strong in their commitments and beliefs, and got butchered for it…

Robert Baker

Very rare. Journalists with the courage to have inconvenient convictions.

scott467

“And they WERE strong in their commitments and beliefs,”

______________

That’s good, but they were fringe, and they were alone. Practically no one outside of their sphere of influence ever heard of them, and no one stood with them.

Imagine if the leaders of the free world all came out and condemned islam.

And the leaders of google, and facecrook, and tweeter, and every other social network.

And the MSM, and universities, the entire propaganda apparatus that is currently used to control the narrative against freedom.

Does anyone think the safe-space loving, fragile, born-to-follow Left would stand up to them?

Not even a tiny chance.

They would join in, all they need is an excuse social permission to feel virtuous about it.

But prominent people have to lead the effort, it can’t be some fringe group.

Condemning islam would need to be normalized.

We have all seen how sin and perversion are normalized over the past 3+ years, we’re practically graduate students by this point.

The weak-minded follower-types haven’t changed.

So the exact same tactics will work against sin and perversion.

Including against the sin and perversion that is called islam.

All it takes is the will or the impetus to do it.

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Cuppa Covfefe

They were very popular in France, so it’s probably a language thing.

Asterix and Obelix are all but unknown in the USA, but all the kids here read that comic, and it’s immensely popular, and translated into a number of languages (including English, and Latin!)….

Barb Meier

https://thereligionofpeace.com/ – a topic here is why Islam is not the religion of peace. They track instances of terrorism in list form since 2001. Here is 2023 which does not yet have much gaza data:

https://thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2023

Barb Meier

Another data resource is the Global Terrorism Database (1970 – 2020) with a Heat Map shows the geographic concentration and intensity of terror attacks worldwide in 2020.

https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/

Aubergine

Well, Joe Biden himself just admitted he has seen the photos of beheaded Israeli babies.

If beheading infants won’t do it, nothing will.

scott467

The establishment will never condemn islam, it’s their tool to start wars at the drop of a hat.

If Mossad had existed in 610 AD, I would be 99% sure Mossad invented islam to use it to create mayhem on command.

Who were the global ‘super powers’ then, after the fall of the Roman Empire? Who needed a bogeyman to justify the military industrial complex of the Dark Ages?

Cui bono?

Apparently Israel helped create Hamas. The FIB and C-eye-A have been creating subversive groups to manipulate people and achieve political objectives (and overthrow nations) for at least half a century, if not from their inception.

People in power don’t have the time or patience to wait around for organic opportunities to expand their power and grip on control, so they create their own bad guys and use them to create opportunities when the time is best for them.

It would surprise me if the majority of catastrophes leading to wars and genocides throughout time were not instigated by false flag events.

Whether islam came about as the individual fever dream of a madman, or whether it was created to be a weapon of social chaos and disruption by some power structure, it is time for the People of the world to put a stop to the global war machine.

Everywhere.

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Valerie Curren

I wish it were that logical & simple but it’s not in the “real” world 🙁

scott467

I’m not even sure it’s a holy war, it’s just islam vs. humankind, because islam will not ever stop murdering and raping people, whether they are religious or not, until islam is eradicated.

islam is like the Manson Family, it’s just much bigger.

When you create a cult based on lies, rape and murder, anyone who becomes a member of that cult (voluntarily or by force, another lovely aspect of the religion of genocide) automatically becomes an enemy of humankind.

Because there is no way to peacefully coexist with someone who will murder and rape you (possibly in that order) if you don’t want to join their rape and murder cult.

I’m not sure what part of this is so hard to understand.

It’s very simple, really.

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Aubergine

And I ain’t joining.

scott467

If the Left weren’t such stark raving hypocrites, and actually gave a crap about women’s rights, the Left would condemn islam more than anyone.

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Aubergine

Right?

pgroup2

Today’s situation is the result of decades of decadent leftist rule in Israel.

eilert

Ukraine, Israel, Forever Wars: “Not my circus, not my monkeys”… | Musings from the Chiefio (wordpress.com)

Things have reached the stage where I can no longer Give A Damn about some supposedly “unprovoked” outrage leading to another war somewhere.

Lately I’ve become enamored of the phrase “Not My Circus, Not My Monkeys”. I’m not responsible for the feed and care of the Monkeys – they are the responsibility of the Circus. And this is definitely not my Circus.

This Circus is entirely the creation of the DC Swamp, NeoCons, NeoLibs, RINOs and Military Industrial Complex; with a little help from the EU Equivalent.

In the case of Ukraine, there’s a massive propaganda and censorship effort to hide the fact that the COUP in 2014 was in fact a coup and installed a pro-west government, that the Minsk Accords were a sham, a lie by The West. That Russia put up with this shit for 9 years before acting to defend Ethnic Russians in Ukraine (formerly those parts were in fact Russia) and that Putin has gone out of his way to not destroy Ukraine. So Far. All the West has done is prolong and intensify the fighting and get a LOT more Ukrainians killed. So the “unprovoked” invasion was, in fact, repeatedly provoked over 9 years.

So why am I not rabidly Pro Russia? Why am I not rabidly Pro Ukraine? Because it is a family fight between first cousins of the Eastern Slavic group. It is busy being fueled by NATO and The West dumping gasoline on the fire (or maybe that’s just $Billions of dollar bills on fire…). But in any case: Not my Circus, Not my Monkeys. I don’t work anymore, so my wages are not being taxed for it. I’m busy stuffing any $Dollars I’ve got into inflation resistant assets. I’m not funding the Circus if I can avoid it, and I don’t care about their Monkeys.

What about Israel?

This “Family Feud” has been going on since the days of Abraham. It got worse about 700 years ago with Mohammed. Then, the Nazi thing ginned up the Muslim Arabs even more. Finally, Britain set about shoving the Israeli homeland right in the best spot for perpetual hatred and war. I had nothing to do with any of that. Not my Circus, not my Monkeys.

Did you see in all the news about the hoard of Rabbis and Jews who invaded the Al Aqsa Mosque? No? So the “unprovoked” was in fact provoked by a bunch of Jews performing Jewish rituals inside one of the Big Three Muslim holy places. Hmmm…

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/4/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot

Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque complex on fifth day of Sukkot

Israeli settlers have stormed the complex in groups and attempted to perform ‘Talmudic rituals’, according to a Waqf official.

4 Oct 2023

Dozens of Israeli settlers have forced their way into the flashpoint Al-Aqsa Mosque complex in occupied East Jerusalem to mark the fifth day of Sukkot, according to the Islamic Waqf Department.

Since Sunday, thousands of settlers have been carrying out provocative tours of the mosque complex following calls by ultranationalist Jewish groups.

Seems like a poke in the eye to me. Think the Pope would be OK with it and Catholics would endorse it if I slaughtered a Cow in the Vatican and performed Satanic Rituals? Too harsh? How about just Pagan drunken sex parties?

But “unprovoked”, remember?

My best guess is that everyone saw the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war coming up. The Hamas / Palestinian side was preparing a LOT of dirty tricks and assaults, and Israel knew about it. How best to handle it? A preemptive strike paints them as villains. But… Run a few hundred “Ultra-Conservative Jews” through a major Islamic Holy site, that will get the first strike from the Palestinians, and then Israel will have a 100% Free Hand to bomb the snot out of them.

But the MIC doesn’t see any profit in ending Forever Wars. So instead of just wiping out the Palestinians / HAMAS and calling it done and dusted, they will stop short at just bombed so much that a LOT of “rebuilding aid” and “reconstruction” and of course rearmament for Israel will be needed.

This will continue for the foreseeable future. And I don’t care. I’m not a Muslim. I’m not a Jew. I’m not an Israeli. I have no dog in this fight. Not my Circus, Not my Monkeys.

IF the governments of the world wanted to fix any of this, they could. They don’t want it fixed. They want to leverage it to get more power and money. That’s their Circus, so these are their Monkeys.

Harsh? Cold? Or just realistic? I used to care. 20 years ago? 40? But eventually you realize that when you have no control, no influence, and no involvement, all you are doing is cheering at a Soap Opera. What you feel about it makes no difference. At All. To these masters of the universe, you are just a P.R. problem (and not even a very big one at that). Nothing ever changes, so “move on”.

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or how you can’t avoid it….

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Not my circus, not my monkeys.”

I LOVE it!

RedLegLeader68

Me, too …

Aubergine

“Finally, Britain set about shoving the Israeli homeland right in the best spot for perpetual hatred and war.”

Sorry, Chiefio, but God did that thousands of years ago.

Cuppa Covfefe

And HE gave it to them, as THEIRS.

Chiefio is usually good, but he is half-English, and often turns a blind eye to the faults of the English… and More-Ham-Head started off 1400 years ago, not 700… doing an L.RonHubbard with the religions of the time, stealing dribs and drabs of some, bits and bobs of others, and ending up with a militaristic mismash of misanthropy masquerading as a religion…

Same crap as the $cienos, but a LOT more deadly… kills the souls either way…

scott467

“Finally, Britain set about shoving the Israeli homeland right in the best spot for perpetual hatred and war.”

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The Allies (including Russia and China at the time) had the opportunity to make islam co-equal with Nazism as the twin paragons of evil after WWII, and they didn’t.

They just isolated on Nazism and made Nazism a global pariah, and as a result, Nazism is rightly detested to this day.

But islam was allowed to flourish.

islam is far worse than Nazism.

It’s far past time to let islam take away Nazism’s crown, and become what islam has always been, the most detestable belief and practice in humanity.

And let the world treat it accordingly.

Aubergine

I agree.

Valerie Curren

Yes!

TheseTruths

Nothing ever changes

Exactly. For conflict to resolve, one or both parties have to do something conciliatory. Neither side will do that, and instead both egg the other on.

scott467

“For conflict to resolve, one or both parties have to do something conciliatory. Neither side will do that, and instead both egg the other on.”

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islam is Borg.

It cannot be bargained with, it cannot be reasoned with, it cannot be appeased.

islam only offers two choices, submission or death.

Since islam holds that position by founding doctrine and principle, the only option for those who are outside the cult is to end the cult.

This is so basic and easy to understand, I would love to know what the rational argument is against it.

To make it more interesting, I would like to know what the female argument is against eliminating islam, and what the male argument is against eliminating islam.

Because I strongly suspect the responses will be very different.

I expect many women (probably not here, but generally) and effeminate men to try to find all kinds of reasons not to eliminate islam, because women (and effeminate men) habitually oppose conflict of any kind.

By contrast, I would be surprised if any non-effeminate male even tried to put forth a credible argument as to why islam should not be eliminated.

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RedLegLeader68

T.H.I.S. … why can folks, especially here, get this?

mollypitcher5

The argument would never be viable to them because they canNOT accept that the tenets of Islam are to kill or subjugate any living being that’s not muslim. Their argument will always go to the oppression, the phobia, the distortion of such a peaceful religion
Also they can’t understand that Islam is religion but also a political entity that should be subject to consquences

Cuppa Covfefe

Islam (“I submit”) is not just their “religion”, and not just their military and political “means to world domination”, it is their EVERYTHING!

From the time they get up in the morning to the time they go to bed at night (and beyond!), Mohammed’s laws and other idiocies tell them what to do.

How to eat, how to clean up in the morning, how to go to the loo, how to cook, how to drink, how to look, how to think, how to treat others (and expect to be treated), how to lie (taqiyya), how to deal with money, and on, and on, and on, and on, until they go to bed. And then they have More-Ham-Head’s prescriptions on how and about what to dream. Oh, and procreate. As much and with as many women as possible (women can only dream of submitting)…

It permeates their thoughts and lives and livelihoods as much as air and water.

And most of us in the West cannot conceive of a people being so subjugated and so controlled.

Maybe we should look at why it’s called “Islam” and what it means to “Islam”.

Churchill said “Mohammedanism is to a man as to what hydrophobia (rabies) is to a dog”. I think it’s even worse.

scott467

“The argument would never be viable to them because they canNOT accept that the tenets of Islam are to kill or subjugate any living being that’s not muslim.”

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This is where the written word of their own hate manual proves them wrong.

Everybody who cares to know already knows, but it is suppressed, just like the truth about covid and vaxx.

All it takes is for someone ‘big’ enough (Trump could easily do it) to point out to the whole world that the emperor wears no clothes.

That’s true for the vaxx, and it’s just as true about the reality of islam.

The books of islam teach violence, both rape and murder.

The verses are widely known and can be found at any website that publishes such information.

That the verses in question are practiced to the fullest by a violent minority of muslims cannot be credibly denied by anyone with access to eyeballs or ears.

And that violent minority will ALWAYS have the upper hand in islam, because they will always violently oppress those muslims who are either weaker or non-violent. And the violent muslims have the Authority of their founder on their side. It is those who would be peaceful toward outsiders who are the heretics, according to the FOUNDER of islam and his authoritative writings.

So the strong and violent rule in islam, and they have the Authority in their own books to be violent, both towards outsiders and towards any of their own who defy the violent teachings of their founder.

This is the difference.

People who self-identify as Christians can also be horrifically and corruptly violent (e.g., the Inquisition), but Christians cannot support or defend such violence with God’s Word.

They can only do it in opposition to God’s Word, in opposition to their highest Authority.

By contrast, people who self-identify as muslims can be horrifically violent with the full support and encouragement of their founder and his word.

So it is the SOURCE and FOUNDATION of islam that is violent and anti-human.

This is why the SOURCE and FOUNDATION must be addressed directly and eradicated.

People who self-identify as Christians who rape and murder do so in opposition to the belief they claim to hold, and in opposition to their God.

People who self-identify as muslims who rape and murder do so in fidelity to the belief they hold, and with the encouragement of their god.

islam is the source problem.

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scott467

“Their argument will always go to the oppression, the phobia, the distortion of such a peaceful religion”

__________

Do you care what their bogus argument is?

I don’t, and I’m sure you don’t either.

So who does?

Only weak people and Leftists, who are a MINORITY, and only appear to be a majority because they control the MSM and their oligarchs have rent-a-mobs.

We are the real majority.

It is what WE decide that matters, as soon as we’re willing to stand up and mean it.

PAVACA

DePat
Good to see you here. Please take things as gently as you can for awhile.

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Wednesday, October 11, 2023

“If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.” 

John 15:18 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you for these. Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.

duchess01

God Bless You All Real Good !!! ❤️

Thank You !!! 💙 🧚🏻‍♀️ 💙

pat frederick

DUCHESS!!!!
hello!!!
hope you are well!

Valerie Curren

Wonderful reply! God be with YOU!  😍    😍 

duchess01

PRAISE THE LORD

Praise the Lord – Who guides our way;
Through His Spirit – to brighten our day;
Touching our hearts – gently and deep;
His Honor and Glory – we value to keep!

Our Father – Who loves us unconditionally;
Is right beside us where we need Him to be;
With Gifts of Grace – to bless us all day;
His Spirit abides – to guide our way!

Praise the Lord – what better advisor;
Could we ever hope – would make us wiser;
When we are perplexed about what to do;
God has a message just for me and you!

Through His Spirit – God speaks to us;
He works out the particulars without the fuss;
He guides us through life’s ups and downs;
Through our successes – and turnarounds!

Praise the Lord – in good times and bad;
Throughout his correction – don’t be sad;
Know that God loves us no matter what;
Through our if/then – and even our but!

God knows what we need before we do;
Cause He sees in the heart of me and you;
All He needs is acknowledgement thrust;
From outside to inside – In God we trust!

Our Faith needs replenishment almost daily;
We need to repent of our sins most ably;
No hiding behind our justification;
Cause God knows our heart identification!

Whenever you are caught in a dilemma or two;
Just go to the Quiet – Let God speak to you;
For in the silence – of your own heart;
His secrets to you – He will gladly impart!

Praise the Lord – for His intuit inspection;
His enduring love – His careful correction;
Whenever we doubt – whatever the case;
It is all about Virtue – His Gift of Grace!

D01: 07/29/2013


Linda

Amen, Duchess. Great to see you again!

Valerie Curren

Beautifully said Duchess. Thank you for sharing. Blessings! 

barkerjim
para59r

Yeah, don’t see any dips in the green line. Useful. 🤓👍

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PAVACA

http://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/bombshell-major-cities-are-now-uninhabitable
Yours Truly: This is regarding the widespread rollout of 5G and installation of towers and lines to transmit said 5G. There is also discussion of potential / possible “tie-ins” between 5G and COVID-19 “vaccine”-induced turbo cancer, among other topics.

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phoenixrising

Bernhard at MoA October 11, 2023

Ukraine SitRep: Storming Andivka – Ukrainian Losses

The Russian military has launched small attacks along the whole frontline. A major effort is made near Andivka which yesterday was bombed to smithereens:

The headline reads “RF Army has delivered a blow of previously unseen might against the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU)”. What they are describing is an aerial bombing of Avdeevka, the heavily fortified Ukrainian town 14 kilometers away from Donetsk city, which is an urban center of more than a million inhabitants and capital of the Donbas oblast (region) of the same name. Donetsk city has been struck by missiles and artillery shells launched from Avdeevka on a daily basis from the time before the Special Military Operation, and with ever greater intensity during the SMO. Video images of destroyed homes and apartment buildings have appeared on Russian evening news together casualty figures and the testimony of victims.

The attack on Avdeevka came early in the morning when the Ukrainians were attempting to carry out a rotation of their troops. Eyewitnesses said that “the earth shook” in the whole area as a result of the bombing.

The bombing of Avdeevka today, like the reported destruction of a major Ukrainian command post by 1.5 ton bombs a couple of days ago, would suggest the “softening up” phase before a major ground offensive.

con’t reading https://www.moonofalabama.o

para59r

“The attack on Avdeevka came early in the morning when the Ukrainians were attempting to carry out a rotation of their troops. Eyewitnesses said that “the earth shook” in the whole area as a result of the bombing.”

Nice of the Russians to welcome the new Ukrainian Unit to the Front Line. 🙄😮😬😏😆

Cuppa Covfefe

It was a WARM welcome indeed…

kalbokalbs

RF Score A Twofer. Nailing AFU forces rotating Out AND In.

para59r

First Hayden, now this.

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gil00

Totally out of line and he threatened that reporter.

Brave and Free
singingsoul1

Socialists-communists stand with Hamas.
We have to call it out what it is.

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singingsoul1

That is not a good sign.

para59r

Especially when you consider this is Colorado. They are well into the interior of the country, still around major cities but they are branching out further and further. 🤨

singingsoul1

We had Mexican gangs in town but they were deported before Obama. When Obama came in he put a stop to it and police told me they are not allowed to deport them. They never came back nothing here to keep them.

scott467

Then let him show prisoners how gangster he is, inside a prison.

Cuppa Covfefe

La Raza is a racist, terrorist organization, looking to restore the supposed nation of Aztlan (basically the entire west and southwest of the USA). Seems like they’re taking it over in any case, thanks to Bye,Dung…..

phoenixrising

pgroup2

And if the govt isn’t jamming the frequencies, why not?

It should be raining drones, as in all of them falling to earth at the same time.

singingsoul1

Iran is supporting Hezbollah. This was a Iranian operation Biden has blood on his hands giving Iran billions. The hate for Jews is unbearable

scott467

This is what happens to those who play around with islam and don’t take it seriously.

It won’t stop, it will never stop, until or unless they stop it.

And that means taking it seriously.

phoenixrising

From IntelSlava

The American embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated. American citizens are advised to leave the country as soon as possible.

scott467

“American citizens are advised to leave the country as soon as possible.”

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Hard to imagine what any American in his right mind is doing in Lebanon in the first place.

phoenixrising

From Geroman

What we know so far:- At least 15-20 drone infiltrations from Lebanon into Northern Israel, no injuries so far, reports of paraglider untrue for now

– Over 1 million Israelis in Northern Israel ordered to enter bomb shelters

– Hamas claims it fired long range R-160 missiles towards Haifa (they might be from Gaza, not Lebanon)

– Suspected infilitration on foot from Southern Lebanon to Israeli border town Ma’ayan Baruch and reports of gunfire further south around Beit Hillel

– There is still hope that this was psychological warfare in an attempt to scare Israelis, and not to opening up of another front to the war

( @thetimapping )

From Slavyangrad

Sources on both sides agree that Maayan Baruch, a kibbutz on the Lebanese-Israeli border, has been taken over by Hezbollah.

pgroup2

I have never understood the mindset of people who essentially set up a trailer park on the border of a hostile force. More important, why should anyone have sympathy for them when the inevitable happens?

Robert Baker

I suppose if you really wanted to understand you could talk to people from San Antonio.

pgroup2

Were they able to defend themselves? If not, then where do I find sympathy for their being overrun by enemies?

I don’t blame a woman dressed to party if she gets raped. But if she’s in a bad area when that happens, I damn sure wonder what she was trying to prove.

singingsoul1

Blaming the victims ?

pgroup2

No. Questioning their judgment.

TheseTruths

It’s similar to people setting up a trailer park in a flood zone where every decade or so, the entire area gets flooded out. It’s inevitable. I guess some people are in denial, as with the vax.

singingsoul1

Israel if it wants to survive needs to do what is best for them.

kalbokalbs

^^^ This, AND, Israel needs to do it on their own. No US military, advisors…

Cuppa Covfefe

All the US military, under thilley Milley, can probably do now is to help them to make sure their lipstick and their fingernails match…

singingsoul1

Yes do it on their own but we might have to bail them out if they are being slaughtered ?
Bail them out and hope they never forget. Seems some forgot WWII.

scott467

Hand out 12-gauge and 14-guage shotguns to the population, and encourage them to fire at will on any drone they see.

It will make everyone safer being armed, it will give everyone something to do, and it will be an entertaining distraction all at once.

Cuppa Covfefe

Light up the Hamas drones and paratroopers like the streamers (burning birds) flying(falling) down from the solar towers in the desert…

scott467

I meant 12-gauge and 20-gauge.

Cuppa Covfefe

You been doing some wiring on your house? 😀

Go for 12 gauge and 20 amps 🙂 Or 10 and 30…

pat frederick

not finding any sauce on this yet…posted on tcth

Katy jay
October 11, 2023 12:37 pm

Steve Scalise is new speaker Sundance take on this please

pat frederick

Observer SC
October 11, 2023 1:10 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4250062-steve-scalise-wins-gop-speaker-nomination/
FTA: “House Republicans on Wednesday nominated Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) to be the next Speaker, sending his candidacy to the House floor following Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) stunning ouster last week, multiple lawmakers told The Hill.
Scalise secured the nomination 113-99 in a closed-door GOP conference meeting, defeating House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) in a close race that did not have a clear front-runner heading into the internal vote.”

singingsoul1

No wonder the repub conference was shrouded in secrecy . They do not want us to see the deals they made 😡
Secrecy is devils work.

pat frederick

agreed

pgroup2

Well .. not always.

Most of us prefer to have sex in secret.  😂 

singingsoul1

Unless a person is a exhibitionist 😎

pgroup2

Well, I wouldn’t know about that.

singingsoul1

🙂

RAC

Under the same terms and conditions ?

singingsoul1

What a shame. He is a McCarthy stodge . Republicans do not seem to get anything right. The bunch needs to go that voted for him.

pat frederick

electing the same old same old. and we wonder why nothing ever changes.

singingsoul1

They do not want to change.

pgroup2

No. He is nominated by GOP [RNC?].

note: He has 199 committed votes. Far less than 15-round Kevin had.

pat frederick

yes, thanks! he has the GOP nomination…faces a full house vote yet

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phoenixrising
pgroup2

What’s wrong with him?

Barb Meier

Jordan’s vote record (A – 94%) looks much better than Scalise’s (F – 58%): https://libertyscore.conservativereview.com/

RedLegLeader68

T.H.I.S.  👆 

RedLegLeader68

Constantly voted for all the $$ for Ukrane; must have a nice stash of Defense Industry stocks by now!.

Among other things. Used to really like the guy, but, sadly, he’s been in DC too long … too much $$.

pgroup2

ThanQ for the info. Return question – who else could get enough votes?

singingsoul1

I am so disappointed. The guy is sick not his fault but we need a healthy worrier.

mollypitcher5

I wish Trump would throw a wrench in the works and declare independent. Let the GOP die a lonely death

phoenixrising
singingsoul1

Mayybe they need to warn the savages who are killing Israelis.

Valerie Curren

some lighthearted stuff from Gab

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Lumber company owner, David Hampton, intentionally mixed tree breeds to create a giant smiley face in the fall. It is highly visible to travelers on highway 18 in Oregon. He said, “I just did it to make people happy.”

https://www.designboom.com/design/trees-form-smiley-face-

https://gab.com/DefiantFaith/posts/111215741483198757

https://www.designboom.com/design/trees-form-smiley-face-oregon-forest-03-09-2021/

Valerie Curren

More from Gab, for fun…

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gil00

Rinoparty just crapped all over the electorate. Trying to thwart us and throw the election to the dimms next year. They want a totalitarian regime while they get paid their silver.

pgroup2

Thirty pieces of silver was a one time payment for Judas. Today it’s an automated payment on indefinite repeat.

gil00

Oh. Wow. It seems to be that for sure.

phoenixrising

Biden Advocates for Reducing Strategic Oil Reserves as Prices Rise Amid Raging War between Israel and …

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The Gaza Hospital can operate on auxiliary generators for four days.

Egypt is blocked from getting humanitarian and medical aid into Gaza.

This will mean conflict between Egypt and Israel.

It likely will be followed by other nations entering the war.

This is why the US is massing naval sea and air power, to deflect the neighbors and Arabs from saving the Palestinians.

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para59r

…and there’s only 17% left from it’s max fill under Trump. He can empty it in a month… what a treasonous schmuck!

Maybe it’s time for Texas and other oil producing states to open their own strategic reserves. Actually should of already happened.

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singingsoul1

If the gasoline goes to the war there will be non for us or rations. I guess we drive less and have cold homes ? This does not look good.

TradeBait2

He’s not advocating. He’s executing a plan that drives up costs to middle income Americans, increasing inflation, increasing mortgage delinquencies, etc. I wish we just called it Blackrocking or something similar.

Inflation kicks in bigger, consumer confidence drops, businesses lower inventories, manufacturing distribution lay off, un and under employment increases, labor participation drops, and so on.

As foreclosures increase as well as credit card and auto loans default do likewise; the bottom fishing goes into high gear. They also plan to grab more farm land in the process. Doing all of it while Americans focus on the bright shiny war and rumors of war objects they create for the purpose.

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pgroup2

I thought it was almost empty already.

mollypitcher5

Whether you call it Islamic or Nazi…the goal is the same and like in the dark days of Germany…WE are the others, the undesirables

scott467

Canberra, we have a problem…

pgroup2

Bless Elon for allowing this vile shit to stay on the platform, for all to see.

scott467

Linda Yaccarino-Hitler is gonna be so mad…

TheseTruths

To find an alternative to Trump…

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan host summit featuring 2024 hopefuls Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Chris Christie and Doug Burgum WITHOUT DeSantis and Ramaswamy

The two men who were on the 2012 Republican presidential ticket are holding a closed-door event with a few 2024 candidates – but noticeably absent from the lineup are Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy.

Sen. Mitt Romney and his former running mate Paul Ryan are hosting the two-day summit in Park City, Utah with the goal of finding an alternative to Donald Trumpwinning the GOP nomination next year.

The candidates at the forum Tuesday and Wednesday are former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley, former Vice President Mike Pence, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum.

Other speakers include Republican Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and former attorney general Bill Barr.

Further labeling themselves as anti-American turncoats.

Ryan said on CNBC Tuesday that all ‘non-indicted’ candidates are welcome to attend, but DeSantis and Ramaswamy are notably not attending. 

The E2 Summit, which is on its 11th year this year, mostly focuses on discussions about foreign policy, tech and business.

The annual gathering, however, is a powerful coming together of tuned-in and well-connected Republicans who want to find – and ultimately fund – an alternative to Trump.

The summit’s maestro Spencer Zwick said that those hosting and attending the summit don’t accept the assumption that former President Donald Trump will automatically be the nominee in 2024.

Losers…

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TradeBait2

He would be 100% correct. The a-holes believe they are rulers and we are their subjects.

Robert Baker

This would imply that Doug Burgum is a RINO. Good to know.

pgroup2

Imply is too nice. He’s running radio spots in Michigan that talk about his positions on issues. He ‘will close the border to stop the fentanyl coming in’ but not a word about the humans coming in.

This guy makes a lot of RINOs look almost conservative by comparison.

Robert Baker

I try to be precise in my language. I never heard of this guy so I didn’t have any actual facts to make an accurate determination.

RAC

Tonight it appears that the yandex translator is unavailable in both the uk and the netherlands. Obviously somebody thinks the fake news needs a little help.

pgroup2

Needs more than a little …

TheseTruths

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Example:

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scott467

😂

RAC

“Egypt will take over discussions with Hamas on the release of foreign hostages and dual nationals held by it — Al Arabiya TV channel”
https://t.me/readovkanews/67628

mollypitcher5

That’s mighty white of them..what about the Israeli children and elderly

RAC

“Footage of the spectacular work of the “Iron Dome” in Israel — dozens of air defense missiles cut through the sky of Ashkelon

In the sky over Israeli Ashkelon, air defense is working, shooting down Palestinian missiles. The frames that appeared on the network show the operation of the Iron Dome system. The spectacular spectacle is commented on by local residents, who at the end of an excess of emotions switch to the Russian mat.

Only yesterday, Hamas fired more than 100 rockets at Ashkelon — then the Iron Dome missed many shells, which caused civilian infrastructure to suffer.”

https://t.me/readovkanews/67644

phoenixrising

via click for vidclip https://t.me/VA_Nikonov/17171

Kirby said Ukraine’s funding rope is coming to an end.

“You can’t start planning for long-term support if you’re at the end of your rope. And in financing Ukraine we are coming to the end of the rope. Today we announced $200 million and we will continue to help Ukraine as much as we can, but it won’t be indefinitely,” the White House spokesman said.

In the house of a hanged man, as you know, they don’t talk about rope. But no one stands on ceremony with Ukraine anymore…

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RAC

“Hamas released the first prisoners — a woman with two children were rescued from the hostages

On the fifth day of the escalation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, Hamas militants released the first prisoners from the territory of Gaza, according to media reports. In the footage, a woman and two small children passed through a protective cordon, they were met by soldiers of the Israeli army.

Following from the statements published earlier by Palestine, more than 100 Israeli prisoners are being held in Gaza.”
https://t.me/readovkanews/67646
(video)

RAC

“Revenge as the main driver of the Arab-Israeli conflict: the former leader of Hamas, whom the current Israeli prime minister tried to kill, calls for a “worldwide Jewish pogrom”

The Arab-Israeli conflict, like any similar tangle of mutual claims, accusations and crimes, sooner or later gets entangled in such bizarre knots that you can’t think of on purpose. Take today’s statement by Khaled Mashaal, the former leader of the Hamas politburo. The retired leader of the movement called for a “worldwide Jewish pogrom” to be held this Friday, October 13.

Why does the former leader of Hamas, who is living out his life in Qatar, have so much hatred for Jews? There are hundreds of reasons — from family traditions (his father participated in the Arab uprising of 1936-1939) to revenge for hundreds of dead relatives and comrades. Do not flatter yourself — Mashal’s own hands are also up to the elbow in blood, but it is important to understand that his fate is to some extent typical – for more than 40 years of participation in the confrontation between Arabs and Jews, it is almost impossible not to dehumanize an opponent.

But maybe Mashal’s attitude was influenced by the fact that it was the current leader of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, who gave the order to eliminate him back in 1997. Then the former leader of Hamas lived in Jordan, almost without hiding. At the same time, due to the rather warm relations with the government of this country, the Israeli leadership decided to kill Khaled Mashal unnoticed.

It was decided to inject a potent poison into the body of the Hamas leader, which would cause him to have a heart attack in a few hours. So that he did not immediately understand what was going on, it was planned to use a needle-free injector, and to mask the fact of the “injection” with the help of a real performance. Operatives had to accidentally “spray” Mashal with an opening can of Cola simultaneously with the “shot” of the injector attached to the wrist. Apparently, the leadership of the Israeli special services has been reading comics about Spider-Man, because otherwise it is impossible to explain such a ridiculous and difficult plan for execution.

And the Jews’ idea predictably failed. The security guard of the Hamas leader suspected something was wrong and called out to his patron right at the moment of the assassination attempt. As a result, the poison got into Mashal’s ear, and the very fact of the attack on his life was noticed. But it wasn’t enough, so the killers couldn’t escape. Two of the perpetrators were detained by the police, and four more people from the support group were blocked at the Israeli consulate.

It was a colossal failure: not only was Tel Aviv forced to hand over the antidote to Jordanian doctors, and Mashal survived, but the Jews also had to release the founder of Hamas, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, and 19 other convicted terrorists. Netanyahu’s career then received a serious blow, and the next time he became prime minister only 12 years later – in 2009.

Personal confrontations that have been unfolding for decades within the framework of the broader Arab-Israeli conflict do not go unnoticed. The parties have accumulated too many claims not even to the opponents in general, but to specific personalities — and they do not trust each other at all.

There will be no peaceful solution: the conflict will continue until someone physically destroys their opponents – or until a new world gendarme comes and disperses the sides in corners. Otherwise, no fantasist will be able to imagine how conditional Netanyahu and Mashal forgive each other all the evil that they caused earlier. 30 years ago Rabin and Arafat tried, but everything turned out to be even worse than it was during their lifetime.”
https://t.me/readovkanews/67639

scott467

““Revenge as the main driver of the Arab-Israeli conflict: the former leader of Hamas, whom the current Israeli prime minister tried to kill, calls for a “worldwide Jewish pogrom””

______________

The fact that islam is based on violence is the main driver of all “islam vs. anyone who is not islamic” conflict.

islam is a religion of rape and murder.

As such, by default, it puts islam in conflict with everyone who is not islamic.

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phoenixrising

Military Summary Latest The Fall | Avdiivka Operational Encirclement. Insane Pressure.
Avdiivka

would be a huge loss to Ukraine, it is much more heavily fortified than Bakhmut, with 8+ years of construction. If the Russians have really reached Siverne in the south and Berdychi in the north that is major progress and leaves a gap of just 7km, with only two roads well within Russian artillery range.The Russians may also have gained a foothold in the south of the built up fortified areas, providing the bridgehead from which to slowly work through the rest of Avdiivka. If Russia can fully encircle Avdiivka it can spend the winter slowly subduing it with the Azov and the massive guided bombs.

That will be a great achievement to clear the way for a Spring offensive from that area, and in the meantime may suck in many Ukrainian brigades if the Ukrainian leadership attempt to defend/retake it as they have with Bakhmut.

mollypitcher5

I don’t think Z’s heart will be in the war since he’s not the prom queen anymore.

pgroup2

[snicker at prom queen]

I see what you did there.  😆 

Cuppa Covfefe

This one?

(He’s still a queen, just not for the prom… 🙂 )….

RAC

“An Israeli journalist took back the words about 40 beheaded babies — soldiers allegedly told her about the number of victims among children

“Journalist” Nicole Zedek, in her daily report from Kfar Az, said that she had observed about 40 murdered and beheaded children, including infants. However, when the public demanded any evidence or specifics of what happened, the reporter retracted her words. It turns out that the soldiers told her about it — she herself did not see anything of what was said.

Also, in her “report” from the kibbutz, the girl stated about 200 burned bodies. Only now, in her refutation, she zeroed out the figure and stated that their number is unknown. It turns out that Zedek, when she colorfully talked about “rows of gurneys with children,” perjured herself. Despite this, her lies do not cancel out the bodies of the tortured victims found on the territory of the Israeli settlement — the exact details of which will be determined by the military in the near future.”
https://t.me/readovkanews/67577
(with tweets)

Aubergine

Joe Biden today stated he has SEEN the photos of beheaded children.

pgroup2

And I just won the Powerball without even buying a ticket.

phoenixrising

Comment lifted from MoA

Russia’s pressing on several points along the FEBA at once plus conducting what ought to be called an offensive in the Ukie rear areas taking out all kinds of targets, particularly assembly areas and ammo dumps. Also, the weather has begun to make a difference as much of Ukie transport consists of wheeled vehicles that can’t handle the mud. Add the fact that Ukie troops must force march with heavy combat loads through that mud makes success of any sort fleeting. Rybar reported the weather issues occurred in the Orekhovo direction, which means Rabotinye. The weather forecast isn’t for continuous rains but for rain every third or fourth day. For those who’ve been watching closely, that means the open fields will become close to impassable and the dirt tracks along the forest belts will soon become rutted mires as we saw last Winter. Ukies do have some reserves, but most of their power is concentrated in the South by Kherson as they appear to want to launch an offensive in that sector.  

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. It’s starting to cool down on this side of the pond, down into single digits (Celsius) at night. Freezing temperatures at night probably in a week or two.

[The birds have been pestering (OK, hinting persistently at) us for winter food, so it’s time to go buy some sunflower seeds and Meisenknoedel to help them plump out and feather up… so they see it too… ]

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kalbokalbs

WAYNE ROOT: The Hamas Terrorist Attack on Israel is Only the Preliminary Bout. America is “the Main Event.” Here are the Details of the Coming Attack on America by China.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/wayne-root-hamas-terrorist-attack-israel-is-only/

mollypitcher5

Sadly it seems probable in that very way or some other variation. These things are almost bound to happen in some form or fashion which makes my head explode that there aren’t ANY current elected people Uniparty or serving military , anyone in the administration..none of them are concerned ??? This won’t be confined to just us, their enemies.

Valerie Curren

That’s rather dark & depressing but not outside the realm of possibility 🙁

phoenixrising

Maria did it again.

Commenting on NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg’s statement: “Putin plans to use winter as a weapon against Ukraine”.

Maria Zakharova: He has no idea that we use spring and autumn as weapons against the NATO Secretary General, using the tactics of “seasonal exacerbations.”

And only summer we left for ourselves.

kalbokalbs

Patch Is Asshole.

RAC

First hand from UK Column reporter just returned from Israel…

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-11th-october-2023

kalbokalbs

I may have missed it with my traveling past few days.

  :wpds_arrow:  Has Israeli government announced why they did NOT respond to Hamas attacks immediately?

Robert Baker

The only explanation I have read was cuts in the security budget left their border police units understaffed. In that same article it mentioned that the first targets of the Hamas soldiers were the police stations. As for the army response I have no information.

kalbokalbs

Thanks.

Valerie Curren

I heard or read somewhere about the IDF being deployed to the North, 4 hours away, & they returned to the affected areas ASAP…  🙄  no clue if that’s true or not…

kalbokalbs

Another one I have missed…

What happened with the NY trial, the judge was trying to liquidate Trump businesses in NY.

Last I read, there was a stay on the ten days to liquidate.

Aubergine

Last I read, there was a stay put into place by another judge, I think. Until it could all be adjudicated.

kalbokalbs

Thank you.

phoenixrising

Growing up, my gr/grandmother always told me “Don’t believe everything you hear, and only one-half of what you see. Still true today.

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They’ve tried this type of lie before … incubator babies…

They lie … all the time …

and some believe, esp. when it fits their existing mindset … shrinks call it “confirmation bias”

Aubergine

Take it for what you will, but today Biden told a Jewish group he had seen photos of beheaded children.

Sooner or later, if those photos exist, they will see the light of day.

phoenixrising

You believe Biden…?

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Aubergine

Didn’t say that. But if he is saying it, multiple journalists have said it, soldiers have said it, and so on, there are photos. We’ll see.

I, however, will not be surprised if it happened, and I think it probably did. This is Hamas, they are islamic jihadists, they don’t give one damn about women or children. They strap bombs on their own kids.

mollypitcher5

I know for a fact that I saw a vid. Now maybe someone can counter and say..no, that wasn’t this time…but FFS it was some time and it was one of their tribe doing it. 😡 
We all have seen them executing people so…it didn’t have a time stamp to satisfy..jeeezus. This is what they do.

Aubergine

Yeah, I don’t believe in “walked back.” Ever.

pgroup2

The biggest liar on the planet finally tells the truth?

Who is stupid enough to believe that?

Yeah, I know – donkeys.

  :wpds_mad: 

Aubergine

Well, just so I understand;

When Biden tells a “truth” we like, for example, the “voter fraud operation” video

we believe he slipped up and told the truth.

When Biden tells a “truth” we don’t like, that he saw photos that multiple journalists, and others including the spokesman for Netanyahu (see link below) have stated are accurate, we DON’T believe?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/10/12/fox-news-reporter-walks-through-house-of-horror-this-is-what-israel-is-facing-right-now-1403589/

I mean, there are certainly many who don’t want us to believe it:

https://freebeacon.com/media/meet-the-la-times-reporter-who-doesnt-want-you-to-know-hamas-beheads-babies/

Further, the “incubator babies” from Kuwait story get thrown around. So I understand, tell me; do we believe world governments and media will make up any number of lies to convince us something did happen, but we don’t believe they would make up lies to convince us that something didn’t happen? Are we SURE that events that were “debunked” weren’t real?

I am amazed that people are so gullible as to allow themselves to be convinced so easily that atrocities that are well within the barbarity of Hamas aren’t real, just because they are told they aren’t.

para59r

I believe that statement was coming out of Turkey where Turkish officials spoke to their military counter parts from Israel, that in all likelihood would not have any sort of confirmation one way or the other since they are in a position to know.. I’d also add that Israel has been extremely slow for whatever reason in getting information out about the Rave Massacre and information is only coming out in drips and drabs still. None of it that I’ve seen from military channels. I have no idea why. Still though as DP said yesterday and Phoenix points out today, a very similar trick was pulled during the Gulf War so doubting this stuff seems prudent without confirmation. Tic Toc. Can’t do the Trust and Verify thing because someone lied before, so we have to just do the report and verify thing instead because some jack asses broke the trust.

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Aubergine

I’ll ask outright: how do you know the “incubator babies” was a lie? Do you really believe that the intelligence agencies will make up all manor of lies to trick us into believing events DID occur, but they won’t make up lies to convince us they DIDN’T?

Aubergine

So, something interesting is happening, but I haven’t seen anyone put it together yet.

A former Hamas leader is calling for a global protest on Friday, which happens to be the 13th:

“”To all scholars who teach jihad… to all who teach and learn, this is a moment for the application (of theories),” Meshaal said.”

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/former-hamas-chief-calls-protests-neighbours-join-war-against-israel-2023-10-11/

I don’t know if most people know this, but the reason Friday the 13th is considered “unlucky” is because the Knights Templar, headquartered on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, and one of the most skilled fighting units of the Crusades, were DESTROYED as a group beginning on Friday, the 13th of October, 1307:

“In the days and weeks that followed that fateful Friday, more than 600 Templars were arrested, including Grand Master Jacques de Molay, and the Order’s treasurer. But while some of the highest-ranking members were caught up in Philip’s net, so too were hundreds of non-warriors; middle-aged men who managed the day-to-day banking and farming activities that kept the organization humming. The men were charged with a wide array of offenses including heresy, devil worship and spitting on the cross, homosexuality, fraud and financial corruption.

The Templars were kept in isolation and fed meager rations that often amounted to just bread and water. Nearly all were brutally tortured. One common practice used by medieval inquisitors was the “strappdo,” in which the hands of the accused are tied behind their backs, and then suspended in the air by a rope around their wrists, intended to dislocate the shoulders. As Dan Jones notes in his book, The Templars: The Rise and Spectacular Fall of the Knights Templar, one of the accused’s hands were tied so tightly that blood pooled in his fingertips, and he was kept in a pit no wider than a single footstep. Many of the men were likely stretched on the infamous rack, or had their feet dipped in oil and held over a fire to burn. Given the extreme conditions, it’s not surprising that within weeks, hundreds of Templars confessed to false charges, including Jacques de Molay.”

https://www.history.com/news/why-friday-the-13th-spelled-doom-for-the-knights-templar

At least 50, including the Grand Master, were eventually burned at the stake. The order was dissolved by Pope Clement V.

I don’t know if this is related to current events, but it sure is an interesting coincidence if it isn’t.

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Aubergine

Interesting.

para59r

Adds that someone posted or I watched elsewhere, the speaker says the Muzzi’s are in their Mosques on Friday and this is timed for them leaving the Mosques after they’ve been all jinned up. Of course I doubt FIB has an active monitoring program any more of what goes on in the Mosques, so all hell can break loose after they come out and FIB will likely just shrug.

mollypitcher5

How many times in the past have cops been point blank ambushed, shot dead by one of them…I can think of at least a couple. Their merit badges are full of death chits so I sure hope LEOs have the sense to be aware every minute.

phoenixrising

The political leaders of Hamas live in Türkiye, under the protection of the secret services. Ankara is piloting Hamas and the “Flood of Al-Aqsa” operation…

Ankara’s choice to launch this new war as soon as the Republic of Artsakh, in Azerbaijan, has been crushed, and while they are sending military equipment to Russia in violation of US unilateral coercive measures, suggests that Turkish diplomats are no longer afraid of Washington, which nevertheless attempted to assassinate President Erdoğan, in 2016. As soon as this operation is over, another will follow against the Kurds, in Syria and Iraq.

If Hezbollah enters the scene, Israel will not be able to repel the attack on its own. Its existence can only continue with the military support of the United States. US public opinion no longer supports Israel, and the Pentagon no longer has the power to defend it. What’s happening now is one of the consequences of the war in Ukraine. Washington is unable to manufacture enough munitions for its Ukrainian allies. It has even been forced to draw on its stocks in Israel. It has already emptied its arsenals there…

All Western leaders have assured us that they condemn the terrorist actions of Hamas and support Israel. In the past, they have done nothing to resolve the injustices in Palestine, and these principled positions attest that they will do no more now. For their part, Russia and China, refusing to take sides with either the Palestinians or the Israelis, have called, not for the application of Western rules, but for respect for International Law. We are now faced with a situation where all the players have deliberately sabotaged every solution in advance, so that it is now almost impossible to avoid the whole thing ending in a bloodbath.

Thierry Meyssan

Translation

Roger Lagassé

https://www.voltairenet.org/article219779.html

pgroup2

This guy is an apologist for terrorists. He lies about American support for Israel, which means the only question is – how many lies is he telling?

Just one? Don’t make me laugh.

When posting liars like this, it would be nice if you told us your opinion of it.

kalbokalbs

Snatched from SD

phoenixrising

para59r

Misses the point. The games on and this Israel thing is just a catalyst for worse. Is there any doubt Hamas will not stop until Israel is wiped off the map? Is there any doubt that Islam will not stop until they’ve conquered the West. Didn’t we just see the Muzzies go on a rampage in France and Belgium? Who’s calling to gas the Jews?

German girl is rumored to have survived. Why was she even injured?

Why were Palestinians putting kids in cages? Those were not jews doing that.

Never was said 40 babies were beheaded. It was said 40 are dead and some were beheaded. For all we know their heads were shot off. The world waits for an answer on that one.

Pretty sure we know Obama and Brenan were behind ISIS. Who controls Israel’s money?

The ME has always been a hard ball place but we know enough that Trump wanted us out of there, that Islam will do what ever it takes to include sacrifice their own to get what they want and flip the victim card out. That to fight that kind of war your going to get dirty or die.

mollypitcher5

Thank you for saying that. This nit picking about how many, what manner of death, when this atrocity or that one happened is getting ridiculous. If there was a daycare building with 40 kids that are now dead or missing why is everyone trying to mitigate the circumstances???? The point is until the terrorists came in that day..they were healthy happy ALIVE kids.

mollypitcher5

According to the German girl’s mother… spoken by her own voice, that she has been told that the girl is in hospital with severe head trauma.

Cuppa Covfefe

She’s in intensive care.

And she was paraded around almost naked by the aniMoslems, celebrating their own brutality.

Sad to see all the anti-Israel sentiment bubbling up… from the various swamps…