2021·04·24 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot (i.e., paper) Prices

Last week:

Gold $1777.50
Silver $26.05
Platinum $1207.00
Palladium $2834.00
Rhodium $28,200.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $1778.20
Silver $26.07
Platinum $1236.00
Palladium $2914.00
Rhodium $28,000.00

Unfortunately, when looking at the prices only on Friday, you lose some things. It looks like gold has barely moved, but the fact of the matter is, it almost blooped up above $1800 earlier in the week. A far cry from the situation just a few weeks ago when it would drop below $1700 and then popped back up again, two or three times.

To really get a feel for what is going on, you should look at a chart.

Here is what gold has done this past year:


The price is moving up and down, but the overall trend is down, imagine a series of sawtooths (sawteeth?). And if you look at the recent rise, it’s still consistent with just being an upward movement in the overall down trend; you can sort of eyeball a straight line through all those peaks, sloping down and to the right, and the price of gold hasn’t broken through that line, not yet it hasn’t. A trader would likely expect it to reverse and drop again.

Palladium on the other hand, is in a slow upward trend, again as seen in a graph for the past year:


And so I would expect it to continue to climb, for now. Here’s rhodium:


Note that it has gone from below $10,000 to almost $30,000 just since last June. Also note at the far right the price is moving up and down, but the height of the oscillations is decreasing. This may be what the technical traders call a “flag,” if so when it reaches its “point” the commodity often breaks out, either up or down, in a big way.

Here’s iridium:


And it probably shows the most stark behavior. Dead flat for months, then suddenly it starts climbing, and climbing, and climbing! That line almost looks like the profile of the Grand Canyon, in fact, complete with the vertical faces and then lines sloping upward to the next vertical face.

Mass (Part I of a Long Series)


Having run out of precious metals to babble about, I’m going to change tacks. If you’ve been here a while, you might remember two postings I did on stars. These were independent posts, having nothing to do with politics (poly = many, ticks = blood sucking bugs) and at least some people enjoyed them. I wanted to go to the opposite end of the scale and talk about a certain sub-atomic particle, but then I realized that the best way to do that would be a very, very, very long post. (And yes, it’s a subatomic particle, but it has a lot to do with stars.) A huge part of it would be explaining where physics stood in 1895, and how four discoveries in the next four years basically overturned things, and eventually led to that subatomic particle, the real star (ahem) of the whole series.

So I decided to break this story up into pieces. And this is the first of those pieces.

And here is the caveat: I will be explaining, at first, what the scientific consensus was in 1895. So much of what I have to say is out of date, and I know it…but going past it would be a spoiler. So I’d appreciate not being “corrected” in the comments when I say things like “mass is conserved.” I know that that isn’t considered true any more, but the point is in 1895 we didn’t know that. I will get there in due time. (On the other hand, if I do misrepresent the state of understanding as it was in 1895, I do want to know it.)

Also, to avoid getting bogged down in Spockian numbers specified to nine decimal places, I’m going to round a lot of things off. I use 9.8, below, for a number that’s actually closer to 9.80665, for instance, similarly for the number 32.

OK so without further ado, mass.

What Mass Is, and Isn’t

Mass is not the same thing as weight, at least not when scientists are using the terms.

But the distinction between mass and weight didn’t become clear until Isaac Newton came along. He tried to imagine what objects would behave like if there were no gravity, and no friction. And he realized that an object under those circumstances would stay at rest unless a force acted on it, or, if were already moving, would continue to move in the same direction at the same speed, unless a force acted on it. It has inertia. But that doesn’t match what we actually see. You let go of an object that’s not on the ground, it falls (or if it’s a balloon, it might rise). An object that’s moving on a flat surface slows down and stops.

But the reason why we see things fall faster and faster, is that gravity exerts a force on them, a downward force, and the reason things moving horizontally slow down is friction, and that, too is a force.

For clarity, we have to ignore friction. Imagine these objects are wet ice on a hockey rink–or cars sliding on ice (yikes!). Or air hockey pucks. There’s still some friction in all of these cases, but not a whole lot. You can imagine, after watching these sorts of things, what it would be like with no friction.

Largely building upon what Galileo discovered (when he wasn’t looking through a telescope), Newton essentially defined the concept of inertia. It’s basically the resistance of an object to being shoved. And mass is essentially a measure of that. If object A is twice as massive as object B, it’s twice as hard to shove around and get the same effect. You need to exert twice as much force.

On the other hand, if you stick with the same object, and apply twice as much force, it reacts twice as much.

You can state this a little more precisely as, acceleration, a, is proportional to the force, F, and inversely proportional to the mass, m. You can increase or decrease any of the three items, decrease or increase one of the other two, and you will see the third item increase or decrease exactly in proportion.

Or to be even more concise, you can write the following:


That little Jesus fish like thing means “is proportional to” and basically, it means that if you double one side, you double the other side, but they’re not equal.

You can rearrange to get:


And this is the form you usually see this in, it’s Newton’s second law of motion. Well almost. There’s something we can do to get rid of that Jesus fishy thing and replace it with an equals sign. More on that shortly.

Mass is considered to be the ultimate measure of “how much matter” is in an object. Twice as much matter, will have twice as much inertia. And some object, say one of the big weights off of a weightlifting set, will have the same inertia even on the moon.

But the weight of the objects will change on the Moon, because weight is actually force. And the Moon’s gravity will pull on the same objects, with less force than on Earth.

The kilogram is actually a unit of mass. A chunk of metal massing a kilogram (think of it as a one kilogram gold bar if that will put a smile on your face) will still mass a kilogram on the moon, pick it up and swing it around, you will feel the same tugs as you would feel on earth, because now you are playing with its inertia, which doesn’t change–it will take the same force to keep the bar from flying out of your hand as it did on Earth.

But pounds are (usually) a unit of force. That kilogram of gold will weigh about 2.2 pounds here on Earth. That means that the earth’s gravity pulls on it with that amount of force. But take it to the moon, and it weighs about 5.9 ounces, that’s how much force the moon exerts on that one kilogram mass.

[Or–let’s be frank here–for me, and for most of you, it weighs exactly zero both on Earth and the Moon because your kilogram bar of gold doesn’t exist at all except in your dreams. Oh, OK, never mind, forget I said this and return to smiling.]

The one force we can’t get away from in our daily is gravity, and as such in the English system a lot of things are defined with respect to the amount of gravity Earth has. But when you’re doing engineering you have to deal with a lot of forces–the force exerted by a pile driver, the thrust of a jet engine, and so on. So you need a unit of force and a unit of mass, so you can figure out how much your masses will respond to your forces, or alternatively, how much force you’ll have to exert to make that mass move the way you want it to.

The metric system, which starts with unit of mass, has to derive a unit of force, and the English system which starts with a unit of force, has to derive a unit of mass. Metric invented a unit of force called the Newton–the amount of force needed to accelerate a kilogram, one meter per second, for every second it’s applied, and yes, it’s named after Sir Isaac. And the English system retro-invented the slug–it’s the amount of mass that, when acted upon by one pound of force, will accelerate one foot per second, every second.

Once you’ve defined your units, you can change that proportionality constant to an equals sign. But you may need a fudge factor, which I will call k. F = kma. (And yes, Biden can kma.) In metric, as long as you stick to meters, kilograms, and meters per second squared, the fudge factor is 1. The Newton was deliberately defined that way. And in the English system, as long as you stick to feet, slugs, and feet per second squared, the fudge factor is also 1. 1 will disappear if it’s in an algebraic multiplication, so now we’re dealing with

F = ma

Drop a kilogram of gold–it will accelerate at 9.8 meters per second per second, a = 9.8, and m is one. Plug it into the formula above. That means it’s being acted on by a force of 9.8 newtons.

Galileo showed that heaver objects fall at exactly the same rate as lighter ones (once you account for air resistance, which is a force and partially cancels out gravity). So a two kilogram mass of gold, falling at the same rate, which we call g, gives you F = 2 x 9.8 = 19.6 Newtons.

Switch to the English system now. Drop a pound of something else–bananas, say–it will accelerate at 32 feet per second, every second. (That’s the English equivalent of 9.8 meters per second per second…we’re just using a different measuring stick.) But this time we have a weight, not a mass, F, and we have a and are looking for m, so we need to do a bit of beginner’s algebra and come up with:

m = F/a

But this time F is 1 pound, and a is 32 feet per second squared. So our mass is 1/32. And indeed, if our answer is supposed to be in slugs, that’s the right answer. A slug, as it turns out, weighs 32 pounds here on earth, and 1/32 of a slug weighs one pound.

Engineers find it so useful to have a unit of mass, the ones working in the English system (poor sods) actually invented a “pound mass,” the mass of something that weighs a pound here on earth. But when they use the “pound mass” in their formulas they have to put a fudge factor of 32 in. With mass in pound mass, the formula becomes

m = 32 F/a

Or rearranging to the usual form

F = ma / 32

A pound mass will respond to a force 32 times as much as a slug would to the same force, as you can see when you solve for the acceleration (response), a = 32 Fm. Failure to properly account for this has doomed more than one rocket. Metric is cleaner, a kilogram is mass, and only mass.

I got my STEM education entirely in metric, that’s what I’m comfortable with, that’s what I’m going to use from here on out.

OK, so mass and weight are different. How do you measure them? If they are different things, you need different methods to measure them.

A force can be measured with a spring. Your typical bathroom scale, or your kitchen scale, will have a spring inside; the amount the spring is compressed by the stuff you put on the scale is a measure of the force exerted on the spring. Drag your kilogram of gold to the moon and bring your scale with it, it will push on the spring less and therefore weigh less.

A mass is best measured by a balance scale. Your doctor’s scale, for instance, is a balance scale. Take it to the moon, and if it read 100 kg on earth, it will read 100 kg on the moon.

But it’s probably marked off in pounds. If you weighed a hundred pounds on earth…that scale will read 100 pounds on the moon. It’s actually measuring your mass but is calibrated in pounds actually pounds mass. So it only looks like it’s measuring your weight.

A kilogram (mass) weighs 2.2 pounds on earth, the object that exerts a force of 2.2 pounds on earth, has a mass of one kilogram. That 2.2 will change on every different planet, however, since most of us never leave earth, we simply think of a kilogram as equaling or being the same as 2.2 pounds, when it really isn’t. It isn’t the same thing, any more than a gallon is the same as 8.33 pounds. (It weighs that much if it’s water and we’re on earth, but that doesn’t make a gallon the same thing as 8.33 pounds in any fundamental sense.)

With me still? I hope so.

Conservation of Mass

OK, I’ve shown you Newton’s Second Law by way of introducing you to the distinction between weight and mass. It’s called a “Law” not because some politician decreed it, but because the universe works this way.

F = ma


And when you have to use a fudge factor, the fudge factor is a constant. It’s a constant 1 in the case of metric and English slugs.

One could ask what would happen if the fudge factor were to change, and the answer is a bit surprising. Since the Newton is defined as being the force necessary to accelerate a kilogram at one meter per second per second, if it suddenly, tomorrow, took twice as much force to do that, the Newton would simply get twice as big.

Since it’s awkward having your units of measure change (for exactly the same reason that inflation sucks), the fact that scientists set things up that way should be evidence enough that they are sure the fudge factor never changes.

How do we know that? It is an induction, not a deduction. It has always been true, we assume it’s just the way the universe works, until we find an exception, and believe me, people are always looking for the exception. And also for just outright blatant violation of the rule; such as objects suddenly and inexplicably changing their velocity. That would be an a without an F, or perhaps the m taking a vacation and reducing to almost nothing momentarily.

Our whole view of the universe wouldn’t make sense if Newton’s second law weren’t true. Car collisions on icy roads, air hockey…if someone made an animated movie where this rule were blatantly violated, it would look fake to us. Of course if the movie were almost spot on, with maybe the fudge factor changing by 1 percent at random, we’d have a hard time seeing it, but this has been measured in laboratories, and it’s always true. And the fudge factor doesn’t change.

One other thing turns out to be true, at least as of 1895. Mass never disappears into nothing, and it never appears from nowhere, either.

Sure, the mass of an object can change. It could decrease. But that mass always goes somewhere else, it never gets destroyed. Or similarly, if the mass of an object increases, that mass came from somewhere else.

This is one of those realizations that turned science into a form of bookkeeping. The books have to balance, the mass in has to equal the mass out.

Set a two kilogram log on fire. Weigh the ashes afterwards, they mass out to maybe 600 grams. Did the other 1400 grams just disappear? Nope. It can’t, it’s not allowed to. So that tells the scientists they didn’t account for something. In this case, they didn’t capture and weigh the smoke and the carbon dioxide given off by the burning log (whilst upsetting leftists). So if you add that in, are you okay?

Nope, because now the mass after is more than the mass before. That’s not allowed either; you can go back to the bench and re-run the experiment.

This time, count not just the wood, but also the oxygen used to burn the wood.

Once you do that, your mass before matches your mass after. Life is good.

The books balance.

And this was another thing that (as of 1895) was considered to be always true. Every time it had been tested, it was true. And a test isn’t just an explicit lab exercise like I just described, but literally everything done in a lab implicitly follows this rule.

In this case simple arithmetic is enough to do the bookkeeping. And nothing of negative mass has ever been seen, so you will see addition and subtraction, but never a negative result. Real accountants would find this dead easy. The trick, of course, is to account for everything, and measure carefully.


There is one other thing about mass, though, that was (and still is) an important feature of the universe. And that is gravitation. I’ve mostly talked about gravity as something that exerts a force on a mass, so far, but I’ve not mentioned yet that mass actually exerts gravity. Every mass, exerts a force on every other mass. If you double the mass of the object, it exerts twice as much force. If you double the distance between the objects, however, you divide the force by 4. This is the square of the distance, and you’re dividing by it, so it’s called an inverse square relation. But one more thing. If you double the mass of the other object, the force you exert on it doubles too, and it responds with the same acceleration.

You are exerting a tiny gravitational force on the Andromeda galaxy. And vice versa. In fact, it’s the same amount of force in both directions.

The law of gravitation was also first noted by Sir Isaac Newton.

You can write this law as follows, at least as a first cut.

F = m1 m2 / d 2

Multiply your masses together, divide by the square of the distances, and you get F.

Except, no you can’t. Meters, kilograms, seconds, and Newtons go together with F=ma, but they don’t go together in this equation. Two masses 1 kilogram each, at one meter’s distance? That equation says the force should be one Newton. It’s not. It’s a lot less. You need to plug in a fudge factor, and this one is named G. The law of gravitation properly reads

F = G m1 m2 / d 2

And G is a very small number, because in Newton’s day you couldn’t even measure what F was. Without being able to measure F, we couldn’t figure out what G was. And for any scenario where we could measure F, we either couldn’t measure one of the masses, or d, or both. Either way, G was unmeasurable.

But even without that, Newton could see the law was good, because he could check the responses of things to earth’s gravity. An apple, and the moon.

To start this out, in fact, let’s assume we want to measure the acceleration, not the force. Both sides of the equation above are a force, dividing by the mass of one of the objects, the one we want to watch, gives:

a = G m2 / d 2

And you can substitute mass of the earth, me, for m2. So the acceleration of, say, an apple dropped, is:

a = G me / d 2

And if you’re standing on the surface of the earth, d is the radius of the earth. (You can treat the earth as if its entire mass were at the center, so long as it’s radially symmetrical (which it almost is). That’s one of many things Newton proved. He had to invent calculus to do that.)

In this particular case, we knew a, and we knew d, but we knew neither G or me. But we knew what their product had to be! This is called the earth’s gravitational parameter, and is usually written μe. (Greek letter mu, usually pronounced as “mew” in English, though logically it should be “moo.”) This is very handy, in fact, it’s so handy that even today people who work with orbital motion just use gravitational parameters; it saves them the bother of multiplying the same numbers over and over again.

a = μe / d 2

Newton had pretty good information on how far away the moon was. He could compute how much it was accelerating as it orbits the earth (always downward, as if it were on a string being whirled around the earth), and his equation and the data matched. The moon responded to Earth’s gravitation exactly the same way as the apple did. This was the first time we had ever shown that something “up there” follows the same physical laws as something “down here.” And that’s why it’s called the universal law of gravitation.

So Newton knew the earth’s gravitational parameter, and the distance to the moon was known before his time. But what about the rest of the solar system? Well, life was rough for astronomers working out the solar system back then. Because we didn’t know the actual distance between the sun and any of the planets, nor between other planets and their moons. We did know the relative distances; we knew, for instance that Jupiter’s distance to the sun was 5.2 times that of Earth’s. Kepler had figured that out in the late 1500s. We could also see that the inverse square law worked: The acceleration Jupiter experienced was about 1/27th that of earth, though we couldn’t tell what it was because we didn’t know the scale. Newton, in fact, showed mathematically that any inverse square force will cause things to orbit in ellipses, thereby vindicating and strengthening Kepler, and using Kepler as evidence that an inverse square law was involved.

Measuring the Solar System, Massing the Earth

So astronomers didn’t know the gravitational parameter of the sun, much less G and the mass of the sun. And they didn’t know d, in this context the distance from anything to the sun, much less the earth-sun difference (but they named it: It’s an astronomical unit, and is still called that to this day). But if they could figure out what d was for Earth, they’d know it for everything else in the solar system, because we knew the proportions. And if they knew d, they could figure out the Sun’s gravitational parameter, because you can figure out the acceleration directly from d and the length of the year.

Astronomers got the first intimations of d when we were able to triangulate on Venus as it crossed between earth and the Sun, in 1761 and 1769. We could plot its motion and position on the sun’s disk from multiple places on earth, see how different it was, and determine how far away it was, just like when you move your head from side to side, a near object will move against the horizon more than a distant one will. If you measure that apparent shift, and know how much you moved your head, you can compute how far away it is. Multiple parties went to different places on earth, just to measure these transits, the more measurements the better. It was one of the first major examples of international scientific cooperation.

Similarly we now had a good number for the distance to Venus, and because we knew the proportions of the solar system, we instantly had the distance from earth to the sun. We therefore knew a, and…now we had the gravitational parameter of the sun, because it was equal to a times d 2.

The gravitational parameter of the sun is 333,000 times the amount of the gravitational parameter of the earth. Since both numbers are G times the mass, you can see that the sun’s mass, whatever it is, must be 333,000 times that of Earth. Whatever that is. We still didn’t know.

But even better. We now knew the exact distance to Jupiter. And we could therefore watch how far the moons of Jupiter got from it in the night sky, do a quick calculation and get their orbit sizes…and now we could figure out the gravitational parameter of Jupiter! It is 317.8 times that of the earth, so its mass is also 317.8 times ours (again, whatever that is). Saturn has moons, and we could do the same thing for it. Mars has moons too, but they hadn’t been discovered yet.

Then in 1781 the planet Uranus was discovered. And in 1787, two moons were discovered. Shazaam! We knew how many earth masses Uranus was, and six years earlier we hadn’t even known Uranus existed. And we eventually figured it out for Mars, when we finally did discover its moons a century later.

But Venus and Mercury don’t have moons, and we could only make educated guess at their masses…until the 1960s and 1970s when we sent probes to them and could see how they interacted with those planets.

One last piece of the puzzle. Henry Cavendish (1731–1810) was actually able to measure the force of gravity between two heavy lead balls in his laboratory in 1798. This was painstaking work, but he now had a situation where he knew every term in the law of gravity except for G; he had the force, the distance, and the masses. So from that he was able to compute the value of G, and (in metric) it is: 6.67 x 10-11.

Now that we had that number, we could go back to every gravitational parameter we knew, divide by G and get the masses.

Now we knew the mass of the Earth. It’s 5.972×1024 kilograms. And everything else proportionately.

We did this, but we did not have to go “out there” and weigh anything.

Problems with the Law of Gravitation?

The law of gravitation worked really, really well. We never saw anything inconsistent with it…well, almost!

When we tracked Uranus in its orbit about the sun, it was clear it was not following the law, not quite. Was something wrong with the law of gravitation? The law was so useful everywhere else, and I mean everywhere else, that it would make no sense for it to be broken here, so instead of assuming the law was broken, we figured that there was something unknown out there, pulling on Uranus. It was complicated work, but Le Verrier in France and John Couch Adams in England both did the calculations in 1845, and when they told Galle, another astronomer, one who used a telescope rather than being a theorist, where to look…well, Galle found the planet Neptune almost immediately.

Far from it being a problem for the theory of gravitation, the discrepancy with Uranus’ orbital motion turned into a triumph, for the theory of gravity had been used to discover a planet, and had predicted it so well that it took someone who knew where to look less than an hour to find it.

That gives you a really strong feeling that this is the truth!

But I mentioned two problems. What was the other one?

The other was the orbit of Mercury. It’s an elliptical orbit, and if Mercury and the Sun were alone in the universe, that ellipse would never, ever move. But it does move, the long axis shifts 574 arc seconds every century. And of course Mercury and the Sun aren’t alone in the universe. So what we should be able to see is that the planets–and the sun’s slight oblateness–explain Mercury’s orbit precessing.

But when you add up all those effects, there’s still a discrepancy. They don’t add up. There’s still 43 arcsecond per century left over. And this bothered scientists.

But really, this probably isn’t a problem. We know what the answer has to be. There’s an unknown planet pulling on Mercury, one so close to the sun we just couldn’t see it in all the glare. The same Le Verrier that predicted Neptune predicted this planet. We even gave it a name, Vulcan; a perfect name because he was the Roman god of the forge and it gets hot near forges and near the Sun. But despite what you may have heard, scientists usually want to square things away, they want to see that planet, then they’ll be confident they know why Mercury is misbehaving.

But Vulcan was never found, and in 1895, it remained an open question. They expected to find it, they just hadn’t, yet. In truth, it really would be hard to see something like that; it can only be done during solar eclipses.


Well, this turned out to be pretty long. And maybe hard to follow (I hope not). But as I wrote it I realized how much “hung off” the concept of mass, and the law of gravitation, and how much we were able to learn about the solar system and our own Earth, each bit of knowledge building on the prior, with theory used as a framework. And you saw some limitations…we could only estimate the mass of bodies with no moons. This wasn’t even where I wanted to go with this, but it was too good to pass up. (Next week we continue towards our final destination.)

But hopefully you saw some notion of how science is supposed to function. It’s full of humans with their own foibles, of course, but in the end the truth does out. It’s nice when you can use a theory to predict something unexpected; it gives you a very warm fuzzy sense that the theory is correct. But at the same time, there are implicit assumptions; that the generalizations we see will continue to hold true. Sometimes we discover otherwise, and have to adjust; usually when that happens it turns out that the generalization was true under certain circumstances and is still useful, under those circumstances, but that you have to scrap it under others. (At the risk of a spoiler, you’ll see that Newtonian gravity is one of those cases.)

And in so many cases, if we seem to see far, it is because we stand on the shoulders of giants, the men who preceded us, and they stand on the shoulders of the men who preceded them. None of this could happen if we weren’t willing to use information gathered by others and build on it, and in turn that’s a testament to the power of being able to write things down so that knowledge outlives us.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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Duchess, that account says it’s a fan page, not an official General Flynn account. I don’t know why Telegram allows people to do this.


Oh, really? 🙁


Yes That is true.
The same with Dan Scavino’s https://t.me/s/ScavinoChannel

The official General Flynn is on CloutHub: https://app.clouthub.com/public/1b836e3b-db85-470e-9063-973345e5a43c


Thanks for the link, Eilert!!!

I guess the one for Flynn on GAB is a fan account, too – Yes?

Are you saying Scavino is not on Telegram, either?


Gen Flynn five times.


Oh, you noticed, P?

General Flynn has been on my mind of late – for so long he had nothing to say – and now – he is speaking up strong – and leading the troops in the fight!!!

Sorry for the ‘splat’ I posted – will take my wet noodle whipping – and be quiet!!!


We are ALL allowed to make mistakes – it’s an integral part of the human condition.

I am so grateful for the posters here – you too! – and I consider it an honor to be among you.

I’ve made plenty of gaffes myself, yes?

Think nothing of it – acknowledge the mistake, use that knowledge to improve a bit, and then leave it in the past.

Please ***DON’T*** be quiet! The mistakes we all make serve to inform others to be wary of making the same mistakes, and so we are ALL better off for the experience.

As you once said to me … God bless you REAL GOOD, Duchess!

Carry on …


I did NOT make ANY comment about the wisdom or lack thereof.

Merely noticed the Flynn URL staircase.


Forgot my snark mark, P – no foul


Please don’t be quiet, Duchess! I’ve been taken in by accounts plenty of times before, so you aren’t the only one. You bring far too many valuable posts here to be quiet!


Thanks, Linda – these social media groups are having trouble – Scavino and Pompeo are still on Twitter – but, they do not post often – how can one tell where to look – unless they have a website that lists them?


I agree – it’s really hard to figure out who is real. Social media sites shouldn’t allow people to post as someone else, but most of them do.


For sure, Linda – and these ‘fan sites’ don’t help, either – even though they are fun in their own right – they just make it harder for us to connect with these people.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I wanted to give people the FULL EVENT cited in this tweet.

Here is the full report in FOUR IMAGES:
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If you want to get this yourself, the ID is: VAERS ID: 1166062-1

Go to THIS PAGE: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8

Then click on VAERS Report Details to enter the ID.


Wow. These poisonous shots need to be shut down YESTERDAY.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

You want to hear a mind-bending train of thought?

We know this spike protein is a bit like the pill with the weird clotting effects.

We know that it has aborted kids by the HUNDREDS as identified miscarriages reported to the system – probably many more. Hundreds in VAERS, likely thousands in America, tens of thousands around the world.

We can easily estimate, around the world HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS to low millions of what would be basically “day-after”, “week after”, and “month after” “forced periods” – basically uterine evacuations – basically DAY AFTER PILLS.

I’m pretty confident about those numbers. First month – not easy to spot as a very early miscarriage.

Which is RU-486, right? Also called mifepristone, RU-486 is a steroid with – as I was suddenly reminded by Wikipedia – antiprogestogenic activity.

Oh, what a surprise! That’s exactly the activity I keep saying that the SPIKE PROTEIN seems to have, and I kept talking about. What a coincidence!

But this is even MORE interesting.

RU-486 is typically given with ANOTHER drug, misoprostol, which is what is called a prostaglandin, which is also used to induce abortion or labor, and helps cause uterine contractions to expel the contents. So they usually give these two drugs together to cause abortions.

Note that both mifepristone and misoprostol are on the WHO list of essential medicines. Yeah. THAT “WHO”.

I mean, it just sounds to me like this weird spike protein virus that ended up in BATS IN CAVES – or so is said – is way too much like airborne RU-486 to be coincidence. And even more than that, it sees to be a bit like BOTH drugs combined.

Well THAT’s pretty WOW.

But then PROTEINS are big molecules, and they have a lot of possibility. In fact, I think in humanity’s future, when we’re skittering around the air with a bunch of advanced vehicles, we’ll likely engineer proteins to do all sorts of things.

So let me posit RIGHT HERE and RIGHT NOW that getting the disease already caused a lot of forced periods and miscarriages, and because “science” would likely say “no way” – and all their doctors said “no way” when women told them that they miscarried or had a period when they got COVID, but because SCIENCE is looking like it’s getting a hold of that darn spike protein……

Well – I’m retired, so they can’t take any funding I don’t have.

But ANYWAY, the combination of “RU-486 the disease”, followed by “RU-486 the vaccine”, sure sounds like something China, WHO, and Democrats would love.

I mean, wouldn’t they just love that?

AND it fits the pattern of “Oh, here’s the problem.”, followed by “Oh, here’s the solution.” And WOW – what a coincidence – it’s the SAME THING.

I really feel like sayin’, “Convince me that I’m wrong.”

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Deplorable Patriot

Just diabolical.


If we stipulate that the vaccines are biological warfare disguised as a cure what culpability, if any, does President Trump have in this?


Morally? Debatable.

Legally? Zero.


What is this concept of legal culpability for politicians? I don’t believe I have ever read of such an idea.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump’s “complicated business” just got squared upon squared upon squared going from 2016 to 2020.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Same culpability as the rest of us who didn’t realize what was going on, and thought a vaccine was the way to go. WWG1WGA, science-wise. Seriously, I’m still pushing the vaccine for some people. Based on the science I know, it’s the best individual choice for some people. They have a right to live, if we stand up for individuals who can benefit from the vaccine.

Science is literally in a REVOLUTION. We are seeing that it is controlled at the top by all sorts of interests which are now affecting science in REAL TIME where we can SEE the deception in time frames which approach the legally actionable and not merely the tragically lamentable.

We are seeing moral complexity with fresh eyes. We are also seeing people who have simply accepted the idea of changing humanity without permission from the masses. I disagree, but – well – my only power is SPEAKING. Easily countered.

Who gets blamed really depends on how hard and how high up the blame “inverts” in the busted conspiracy where all levels are deceived differently and to different degrees. One has to remember – REAL CONSPIRACIES OPERATE BY DECEIVING ALL WHO ASSIST. They’re PYRAMIDS OF MUTUAL DECEPTION.

Some people KNEW we were dealing with an “abortion virus” and an “abortion vaccine” – I’m POSITIVE of that. But it may be devilishly hard to catch them. There are even places this could go that are flat-out MIND-BENDING.

Are pesticides and “fertilizers” or “defertilizers” biological warfare or AGRICULTURE?

Anthroculture. Get used to it. It happens before terraforming because it HAS TO. Creation must become part of creation because it already is. The only question is HOW.


(Edit: Antrho –> Anthro, 2nd even –> flat out)

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very good answer Wolf


That is just heartbreaking — the vax made the mother’s milk a poison.


I’m not a mother, and am hardly equipped to be one, but I’ve got to imagine that taps into deep primal horrors. She poured nine months of her life, her essence into a new life, held it in her arms, burbled with joy….and the vax turned her further nurture fatal. She is likely devastated.

Deplorable Patriot

And who knows what it took to conceive.

Valerie Curren

Or if she’d ever be able to become pregnant again or even carry a pregnancy to term. The levels of evil here are incomprehensible!


Yes, I’ve been praying for that woman. I’m sure she is horribly devastated.

Deplorable Patriot

I’ve also read that partners engaging in conjugal activities are passing on the vaccine stuff to the other one.

We were joking on Catholic twitter about a dating site for non-vaxxed people. It may be a reality sooner or later.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Snake protein – whoops – I mean spike protein – is apparently pretty feisty stuff. the mRNA for it appears to be even more feisty, and is likely doing some genetic incorporation, thanks to the Swiss army knife protein. But then add lots of ChiCom allegedly inactivated virus vaccine (Sinovac or CoronaVac) that may be less inactivated than others, and I think we’ve got a grade A global scam going on here.

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Deplorable Patriot

The more I think about the people who have not been vaxxed exhibiting symptoms and bruising, miscarriage, etc., it sounds like you have to be in REALLY close proximity to a vaxxed person to pick up the shedded spike protein. Like, REALLY close.

Are you following that part of the whole scenario?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not yet, but I’m sure I will, because it will either prove some interesting point of the science, or turn into something that needs DEBUNKING, but which then becomes a weapon of their disinformation which we can GRAB and give a nice hard TUG.

Just remember this – it HAS to be physically mediated by the spike protein. THAT can come from the disease OR the vaccine, and if the latter, then the TYPE of vaccine makes a difference.


Many pregnant women come through the borders are they getting the vaccine and why not? Why are only citizens who get the vaccine?
I guess I see conspiracy  🤔 

Sadie Slays

All I can do is pray that poor baby’s death convinced some fence-sitters to finally say “No!” to the vaccine. I hope this senseless tragedy saved many more lives and suffering because I’m otherwise having a difficult time reconciling why this horrible evil is being forced on us.



unspeakable atrocity.

poor little one, poor mother.

they are traumatizing the world with this agenda of death.

I hate them all.

God’s curse be upon them.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Here is the alternative that would have avoided the whole spike protein – but likely would have reduced the contraceptive and abortive activities.


Concerned Virginian

Wolf Moon
It may well be the case that this poor woman, in addition to losing her baby, also will not be able to bear another child due to the contraceptive spike protein elements that apparently are in the CCP Virus “vaccines”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That is the worst part – any genetic incorporation that keeps cranking out spike protein. BUT – and this is very critical – we KNOW that the disease produces genetic incorporation, and we SUSPECT that the vaccine does, too. So if that is the case, then there is some possibility that the disease is WORSE than the vaccines, in terms of effects on fertility.

And HCQ would have avoided BOTH problems.


Concerned Virginian

And, just like that —
The CDC and the FDA took away the pause on J&J “vaccine” yesterday.
Credit to the WashPost
“Federal agencies lift pause on use of Johnson & Johnson vaccine, saying benefits outweigh risks”

“The officials said the benefits of the single-shot vaccine far outweigh the risks from a rare and severe type of blood clot.”

Which tells one a couple of things:
First, the CDC/FDA/DeepState/Dr. Fauci — all were petrified that We, The People are starting to wake up and say NO to the CCP Virus “vaccines”.
Second, there most likely was pressure brought to bear on the Feds et al, by J&J to get their “vaccine” distribution rolling again — Follow The Money. CUI BONO?
Third, Read the Pull Quote above again. And again. The Feds are saying that it’s OK if one dies from a “rare and severe type of blood clot” after getting the J&J “vaccine”, because of the “benefits” of the “vaccine” for the great unwashed — “the greater good”.
Or how about “the end justifies the means.”


WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY is President Trump RUINING his chances of winning in 2024 with his response to the vaccines?

I just don’t understand!

By 2023, when the run for the Presidency begins, I can promise you there will be so many people who have died or been injured by this vaccine that anyone with anything to do with it WILL NOT be a viable Presidential candidate.

WHY won’t he just shut up?!


What I’ve come to believe is that P45DJT is following the mandate of *game theory*, in order to win IN THE END.

Chess is a hobby of mine – and the chess engines have eclipsed our own understanding of the game, to a point where most of us simply don’t see what the right move is, to win.

To continue the analogy, there are some computer programs (Alpha Zero is best, right now) that make moves that OTHER chess engines “think” are mistakes … UNTIL, that is, they reach a deeper level of analysis.

IOW, when they think only 25 moves ahead, their evaluation of the chess-move is BAD; but when they reach, say, 29 moves of depth, their evaluation is GOOD – and *winning* in many cases.

Humans also can outstrip some of the lesser engines – and it’s rather glorious to see!

I remember when so many here were AGAINST the seemingly “wrong” decision by P45DJT to sign the military funding bill, which included TONS of graft.

By that time, though, I’d decided to support him in the decision, for two reasons:

First, I didn’t have enough info on / grasp of the reality of the situation.

Second – and more importantly – I concluded that having FAITH that he knew what he was doing was the ONLY way to go. I stopped second-guessing, and have been incredibly more sanguine about leaving all the decisions he makes / has made up to him.

In retrospect, his signing that military funding bill / boondoggle turned out to be right, and the ONLY path to victory in the end.

I suspect that the current vax situation, also, will prove to be the same – the only way to reclaim our Republic.

It’s quite a calming perspective!

“Future proves past” … we’ll know in the end.

Hope this helps!


I understand and even agree with your stance. I hope we are the correct ones, and that by then everyone will see it. But it sure looks like a hell of a gamble from the perspective of April 2021!

Deplorable Patriot

In the end, the only way some people were going to wake up regarding the vaccine industry was mass deaths from them. It’s horrible to think that way, but it’s the truth given the confirmation bias in place in the culture.


Getting the J&J shot is playing Russian ruled.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump was actually right here, IMO. What they did to J+J was to pretend that they didn’t know the problems with the vaccine are STILL in the “acceptable” range that we HAVE been getting – even though it’s WAY more dangerous than the flu vaccine. Stopping the vaccine was ALL SHOW to get focus off the vaccine problems.

This is all Stalinism – but we can convert it BACK to where it should be, by simply having what I call PEOPLE’S CONTRAINDICATIONS.

If CDC, taken over by “whoever”, will not be honest, front line doctors and internet scientists need to contradict them and advise SOME PATIENTS to be very careful about getting vaccinated.

I will still, as somebody who supports the right of individuals to take medicines that THEY THINK could save their lives, to get the vaccine if THEY BELIEVE it will be a lower risk than getting the disease.

Deplorable Patriot

The other thing when it comes for forced miscarriage is the ABC link that is denied in public, but very much acknowledged behind hands and under the breath in doctor’s offices. When a first pregnancy is interrupted early, while the breast tissue is changing, it DOES leave a woman vulnerable to breast cancer. The Susan G. Koman people deny it, but I know woman who have been told by their physicians that possibility is VERY real.

It does happen.

And that’s another $$$ cow that has been lied about for decades.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

VERY interesting.

Deplorable Patriot

No particular reason, I was just thinking about it —



Impressive, Cooth!!!


Back in the days of sample-playing synths like the E-mu Proteus 2000, I was hoping someone would come out with a ROM for a theater organ……you could have more stops than the Wanamaker [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_the_Wanamaker_Organ ] in a little MIDI box…..

Still waiting….


A little tour through the Wanamaker.

Deplorable Patriot

My friends who have played it are always in awe afterwards.


To get up into that little balcony that surrounds the console, this is if I recall correctly as it’s been many years, you used to walk through a regular “department” in the store and through some little doorway. Could have even been a shoe department. 😄 Our regular tuner/builder was part of the team there for years. It’s always in the back of my mind – what will Macy’s wind up doing with this situation, when they really go under?


Steve, that Gold chart had some interesting spikes right at the time of the election and around January 6th.



If you’re going to build floating space colonies, why the F*** would you build them to have the climate of Seattle?


Because the kind of people with access to the levers of power and unlimited wealth don’t live in a world that has any relationship with common sense.


Common sense is for people who need to survive.

People who have so much money and power that they could live a thousand lifetimes and never have to worry about money, live in a world of theoretical possibilities which are only limited by their imaginations, not by common sense.

Common sense is for the little people, because they need it.

Bezos… doesn’t.

He can afford to just do stuff because he wants to, whether it makes any sense or not.


We are mere ants in his terrarium.

Deplorable Patriot

To keep the inhabitants depressed?

Deplorable Patriot

You have SUCH a sweet way of putting things.


They’ll be working on it for quite awhile. But they’ll get there eventually.


Shaking my head:

FDA, CDC rules Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine pause can be lifted


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I hate to say it, but it makes scientific sense. IF you accept the other vaccines with similar numbers in similar people – if you accept relative risks of vaccines and disease AS ACCEPTED for the other vaccines – if you accept that people have a right to TAKE THE RISK THEY WANT (vaccine or disease) – then they had to make this decision. Trump was RIGHT – they should not have stopped J+J – it was THEATER.

Does not invalidate any of our concerns – it’s just complicated.

Sure would be different if there were ADMITTED CONTRAINDICATIONS.


Now, this is very interesting.

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Check those numbers.

This is CLEARLY hormonal, it’s clearly WOMEN of childbearing age, it’s clearly less of a risk PAST MENOPAUSE and NOT TO MEN – this is ALL MAKING SENSE.

The spike protein is more of a risk to women of childbearing age.


Now – that is the risk of this extreme and life-threatening disorder. Imagine this in comparison to similar risks of another drug affecting progestational hormones – THE PILL.

Compare them both.


To me, this SMALL BUT POWERFUL RISK (of this one rare clotting disorder) we are seeing combined with MUCH more frequent NON-LIFE-THREATENING (anti)progestational effects, tells me that this spike protein could have very strong contraceptive effects “for a common cold”, so to speak.

I’m not making any wild claims or allegations about design. Not here. Not yet. I just want to DOCUMENT that this SPIKE PROTEIN looks every bit like the macguffin in a disease AND a vaccine using the disease protein which gives an antiprogestational effect.

Might be worth wondering why some anonymous scientist on the internet and a few other similar but less anonymous scientists on the internet are the only ones talking about it.

How come FAUCI’s not sayin’ nothin’?

Good links from Cthulhu:



“What’s up with the spike protein?”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, I just thought of something. The “crisis” had to happen so that we wouldn’t have the usual contraindications interfering with the purpose of the disease and the vaccine. They NEED it to be taken by women of childbearing age or pregnant.

Oh, this is ALL making sense. That’s why there are NO contraindications to the vaccine. If they let there be one, soon there will be more, and eventually there will be the ones they CANNOT AFFORD, because it defeats the purpose.


Why am I reminded of


Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That was programming, too, actually, in my opinion.

But I think that there’s clearly a plan to try to reduce fertility


….in women….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Women are the logical long-term biological strike point.


Sort of a Handmaid’s Tale scenario, eh?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Again, you’re just falling for their narratives.

  1. Bad Human
  2. Bad Male
  3. Bad White Male

Don’t fall for their narratives. They just seed this crap. It’s ultimately ANTI-HUMAN.

See how those divisionist memes work? They just fill our minds with this shit.

Fight back. It’s THEM. Who’s “them”?



There are women involved in this vaccine development, too, i.e. Moderna. This link also has a gratuitous Fauci mention:


Deplorable Patriot

Yes, in women. Without women, reproduction cannot take place.

Deplorable Patriot

hence why in thoroughbred horse racing, the mare is the more valuable animal.


..and low testosterone .
Gain of function.
We now have ‘programable virus’s.. and vaccine passports..
The megalomaniacs mandatory dream syrup, fought for andlegalized by an nother “unaccountable ” branch of tthe US gubmint. the (CDC) …and endorsed by WHO.
NO THANKS fauxi !!


Young adults are already having significant fertility problems. Between two daughters & DIL six KNOWN miscarriages & one had 2 significantly preterm.(Fortunately all done…with 8 reasonably healthy kids between them)
Friends of theirs having to resort to expensive in vitro over significant time in order to conceive.
It’s already a mess… Pity the next wave of young adult’s issues after all the jabs are done.
Between heavy metal & fluoride toxicity add jabs & the cabal are well on their way to realizing their fertility depletion goals.

Deplorable Patriot

Seriously, eating paleo usually takes care of this. It’s the excess gluten, seed oils, and grains that usually messes with the system.


Nutrition is the best pharmacy but this fertility problem is not being addressed in any meaningful way by the medical profession that young people have been encouraged to rely on.
Nutrition is seen in the same light by current medical practice as folk medicine. It’s not taken seriously…


Don’t think we’re thinking in conventional nutritionists terms…they are usually useless.

Deplorable Patriot

And that is so sad.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, this actually makes a LOT of sense. “1000 cuts” is a perfect strategy to bring human reproduction under control of our keepers without letting on that there IS control.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Heard on the news that this was a successful PSYOP.

‘If the people thought that the Govt is willing to shut down a vax after a negative report, then that shows how responsible and caring they are, that they will protect us from harm. Knowing that the Govt is acting in our best interest with our welfare in mind has convinced more people to TRUST and take the vax.’ 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES! ES! YES! It was THEATER for sure, and THAT right there is a great explanation of WHY. They were losing credibility.


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



And of the $44 million raised by the RNC, $44 million of it was intended for Trump, but the RNC used deceptive marketing to make donors think they were donating to Trump.


Does “Save America” still share fundraising with the RNC? As he is no longer sitting POTUS and as the RNC must remain neutral in the GOP primary, I don’t think they do. I don’t think they would share again until after he won the 2024 GOP Presidential Primary.


Trump should NEVER share with RNC based on any set ratio. Never again as it apparently was for the 2020 election. Blood sucking RNC massively took advantage of Trump and Trump supporters.

Where Trump believes in a RNC candidate, funds can then be directed to specific candidates.


Those stats are for this year. That’s a lot of bucks to rake in from people who don’t have it to give, after such a demoralizing period of time.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think the real question is how much skim and kick-back the Dems can get from the trillions they’re dumping out for scraping.


“I think the real question is how much skim and kick-back the Dems can get from the trillions they’re dumping out for scraping.”


All of it.

None of the money in the funding bills they pass ever gets to ‘infrastructure’ or whatever the ruse de jour may be. Not a single pothole gets filled. If any money actually gets down to the contractor level, it’s the brother-in-law of some crony on the city council, who pockets the cash and kicks back half to the city councilman.

Remember those $500 hammers we bought in the 1990s from Lefty’s Ethereal Hammer Emporium?

There were no hammers.

Remember the $600 toilet seats the Pentagon bought from John’s Wholesale Gold-plated Crappers?

There’s no such company. That money just went into a black hole.

The $1.8 billion (or whatever amount it was) more recently, that went to the Pakistani Tranny Academy?

Again, there’s no such place.

There are no trannies in Pakistan.

They’re MOCKING us. Laughing their asses off, brazenly stealing trillions of dollars, right in front of our faces.

If they even bother to go through the exercise (as opposed to direct deposit to a Hong Kong back account), the money is sent to Pakistan, who takes their cut, and sends the remainder back to Pelosi, Schumer & Soros, LLC.


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People have lost their damn minds.
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Dumb and Dumber – and I am not talking about the dogs, either!!!


They look so cute but hey the mask only applies to humans  😂 

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

🤸‍♀️ 🤸‍♀️ 🤸‍♀️

Dems won’t post $1M bond, so election audit won’t be paused (azmirror.com)

A brief weekend pause in the Arizona Senate’s election audit that a judge ordered on Friday won’t happen because the Arizona Democratic Party declined to put up a $1 million bond that the judge requested to cover any expenses that the Senate wrongfully incurs due to the halt.
Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Christopher Coury ruled that the audit must halt from 5 p.m. Friday to noon on Monday. But that order was contingent on the Arizona Democratic Party, which brought the lawsuit seeking to block the audit, posting a $1 million bond to cover any expenses that the Senate wrongfully incurs due to the delay. The Senate’s lease of Veterans Memorial Coliseum, where the audit is being conducted, ends on May 14.
Roopali Desai, the Democrats’ attorney, said the party won’t put up the bond. That means the audit will continue uninterrupted.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, that is a beautiful test. THAT is SWORD OVER BABY.

The Dems KNOW that if they stall the show, and the audit STILL BURNS THEM, that they’ll be out of that cash.


And the thing is…..$1M is chump change, compared to the TRILLIONS being looted in the name of their fictitious majority.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Now check THIS out.

Linda posted those numbers.

Trump got 85 million
RNC got 44 million

DNC only got 18 million

Now they’re looting a lot with all their infrastructure LIES, but that 18 million ON HAND can’t afford to lose 5.56% on some bail-out of the Arizona problems.

This is getting interesting.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think we’re going into interesting times.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Start? How about continuation. This one’s a real gem too. Anemia, America?? 🙄🙄🙄

Biden’s Climate Requirements: Cut 90% of Red Meat From Diet; Americans Can Only Eat One Burger Per Month (thegatewaypundit.com)

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is all so incredibly anti-freedom, anti-American, and DARE I SAY ANTI-HUMAN, that……


bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

How Woke is Micky D’s, BK, Wendy’s, etc. gonna be now?? 😜😜😜

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, the wokesters in boardrooms will sell us freaking ALGAEBURGERS.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

So now, not only do I need a garden in my backyard, I gotta get a cow too!! 🐮  Better get some bacon while I’m at it.  🐷  And a horse to drive. 🐴  Lots of firewood to plant  🌳  🌳  🌳 


In California, it’s next to impossible to build new wood-burning stoves under the building code.


I agree. The air in 1990 was vastly improved from when I was growing up. Even in the 80s, there were times I could look out of 16633 Ventura Boulevard and not see the hills immediately south. If only they’d been dissolved once they’d fixed the problem they were organized to address…..


If you hang out in Lowe’s and Home Depots in places like NC or TN, it will eventually dawn on you that some products say, “NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA.”

Once you see it, you will find that about 10% of the store has that label.

And then you’ll realize how oppressive the CA government is.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy




Cuppa Covfefe

That’s why I was talking the other day about the fact that we need to create our OWN economy. Independent, strong, and unassailable.

Let the globalist soy-toys with their dork knots and their tattooed hairy-pitted gothlets eat whatever poisonous pablum they want… We’ll take real food, from real farms, from real MAGA farmers…

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

You’re prescient Cuppa!!


Do they still use real meat, Butterfly?

Won’t bother them to sell veggie-burgers.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

They’ll be reduced to chicken nuggets, nothing but beeks & feet. 😱😱😱 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮


Oh, YUK!!!   :wpds_unamused: 

Cuppa Covfefe

So, instead of “It’s a treat to beat your feet on the Mississippi Mud”, it’ll be
“It’s only beaks and feet in McChicken Nugget Fud”… (as opposed to food)…


Here (11:38am):

>>”I think you missed my key words there.”<<
— reply to bflyjesusgrl

Earlier (11:29am):

>>”I think Cthulhu’s sarcasm went right over your head.”<<
— reply to Deplorable Patriot

Please follow the rules of CIVILITY here, and avoid using “you” or “your”.

Personally insulting / denigrating remarks are best left to the utree site.

Btw, authors needn’t be held to a “higher” standard … but merely held more strictly to the standard already in place.

I’m disappointed.


Lighten up, Francis. 🙂


Ok pgroup2!

I’ll take your advice!

lol! And ty.

Valerie Curren

This is Epic Sarcasm, right? I hope so 😉

Valerie Curren

LOL! I miss some of the underlying eddies around here 🙂 I’m guessing you can take it all in stride, or like Darwin, shed that old outgrown skin w/ ease.

Speaking of shedding skin, have you ever read CS Lewis Narnian Tale, “The Voyage of the Dawn Treader”? There is a very apropos analogy using a dragon’s skin about the salvation experience. Given your experience’s with Darwin you might bear unique insight into that part of the tale. Blessings!

Valerie Curren

“he means well” from all I’ve read of ES’s comments that is pretty much Always True!!!


Oh there is the pattern here. Somehow there are people in the gov’t that has got the idea that they are in a position to dictate all sorts of details.

Micro-managing. Like they can’t just mind their own business, probably because they don’t have a business nor a mind…

And a variation of the classic tyrant stance: «We know what is best for you», and the related «We know what you need»

And that second one is the biggie: Here it is limited meat; everyone needs to stop eating lots of meat because climate. You «need» only 1/4 lb (or 100 g) meat per week… The F. does Biden (who didn’t win, never forget that) or any of the other honchos know much about that?

Not limited to that. Elsewhere there is all the talk about limits to weapons. And again, the argument goes that no-one «needs» particular types of machine guns, or magazines with space for more than 5 or 7 or 10 bullets in them.

Yet another one that is big here is the talk about «necessary» stores, and «necessary travel». Who the hell has any right to decide if any particular trip I take is «necessary» as long as the car is roadworthy and driven in a generally acknowledged safe manner on a road open to the public, and as long as I pay for gasoline and tolls?

Damn nanny-staters… a pox on them all!


Did not BLM funnel money to the DNC? Maybe they will no longer instead the leader buys expensive property?

I do not trust the DNC they have money someplace and come out with it when needed.

Cuppa Covfefe

Begs the question of if that $18 Mil. is even there.

Sound like the DemonNationalCouncil might need some *cough* BLM funding soon… a few Car-B-cues and a Bake(d and burned city) sale or two should do…..

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Bet you’re right. They needed a BLM FIX.

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Love seeing MASS vs. WEIGHT taken all the way up to PLANET VULCAN.

Here’s my favorite little “meme snippet” on that!

New York Times! Yessirree Bob!
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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’ll take Vulcan number TWO please!


Is a Vulcan #2 a logical dump?

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Either that or Intel 6. 😉


Was that Josephy-Louis Lagrange?


You see why I suspected Lagrange at L3?


Vulcan was supposedly at L3.


I was thinking of earth’s L3 w/r/t the sun, 180 degrees opposite in the same orbit (with Vulcan having the same mass).

Mind you, the concept of Vulcan tended to change a lot, being that it was never where it was supposed to be to have a stable orbit in this solar system where it could sustain life. Roddenberry’s Vulcan went to a different system.


Any three body solution for an in-system Vulcan was bound to fail when all the other bodies weighed in. Similarly, all the Lagrange points require correction in the real world.

Way, way back in the day, I was a member of the L5 Society. I have a magazine issue with an article from Insty before he was Insty.


And so we know (and can joke upon) today. In the 1700-1800’s, not so much.

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Hey, that’s SCIENCE. Indeed. stuff that’s predicted and NOT THERE is a great source of advancement.

AND this. I have to say I felt a bit of “Well, there you go – good job!” for the proponents of Vulcan, when we began finding truly extraordinary exoplanets “in very close” to their suns, including those oddball gas giants!

I was like – WOW – Vulcan! It’s BACK! 😀

Valerie Curren

How does Jupiter help make this a “habitable system”?

Valerie Curren

OK thanks! I knew the moon functions that way for us too, to some degree. Jupiter is large in size but is it also largest in “mass” & therefore does it create the greatest gravity (well?) in our solar system, apart from the sun? In case it’s not self-evident, I’m no rocket scientist, nor do I play one on TV! 😉

Valerie Curren

Fascinating! I really appreciate how you make these complex concepts somewhat understandable. Once you get into Calculus you’ve pretty much surpassed my math background–I took 2 semesters in college but didn’t understand the concepts so had a mental block w/it being a conceptual learner.

Unfortunately I took calc-based physics in my youthful arrogance so the physics also mostly escaped me. There are still mental blocks in this area that in my younger, “studious” days, should have been overcomeable as I really enjoyed straightforward scientific analytical explanations. Now those analogies Really Help me get some basic clues here. 😉

In referencing the pull of gravity that made me wonder about that theoretical orbital habitat being 20 miles long (I thought you discussed this above) for surely the pull of gravity on that great of a length at such an orbital distance object would be quite variable & difficult to compensate for in the way so that the habitat was designed to prevent materials’ failure…

Valerie Curren

Thanks, very interesting. Btw, I don’t know what these “L” #s you & others refer to mean…

Also, if you’ve ever seen the early episodes of the teeny-bopper dystopian show “The 100” (it’s on Netflix) there is a large orbiting habitat that survived several human generations. The design & issues portrayed Might be of interest from a conceptual, scientific, & artistic portrayal of a potential dark human future…

Valerie Curren

Thanks for the tips. Loved Firefly, never saw B 5, & in the midst of The Expanse…trying to get hubby into that one so we can watch together…but we’re having Prime hiccups…

Valerie Curren

Thanks for those perspectives, esp the B5 info. Not sure if I’ll be drawn to “religious” stuff necessarily. I have a Lot of skepticism regarding much of the “faith” dynamic, though a strong belief in biblical Christianity. Organized religion, for the most part, is not at all my cup of tea & I recognize how many people through the ages who purport to speak for God are often just hucksters who manipulate the masses for their own personal fame, fortune, & glory. True people of faith are often sedate about their deeply held beliefs…but thanks for that heads up 🙂

Valerie Curren

It is an interesting aspect of the human condition. I enjoyed how Frank Herbert imagined the perversion of “true” faith in the Dune books. Quite fascinating stuff. Sweeping storylines do well to keep that aspect of human nature in their imagined scenarios in addition to sex, money, power, abuse, idealism, etc.

Valerie Curren

No doubt! I’ll have to go looking for it after I finally get our taxes done & off my back!

Valerie Curren

Good for you. I always get hung up on the Itemized Deductions where I work very hard to get us Every Possible legit reduction in money that the gov’t can “legitimately” steal from us…

Valerie Curren

Yes, I understand. I haven’t had to do Schedule C almost since being a parent so I can feel people’s pain but not relate to the recent changes…

Valerie Curren

Yup, me too! Since before I was married, & that will be 30 years ago next year 🙂

Valerie Curren

Thanks for the wiki-poo link…very interesting!


So, vector algebra forces a change from weight to mass?




It does.

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Yeah, but vector algebra is the GUN. Who brought the GUN? WHY did they bring the gun?

Don’t blame the gun! The gun didn’t force nothin’.  😉 

Somebody with THE GUN and A PLAN did.

Somebody always wants to hold up some new bank in Nature City. And they need a NEW GUN. Or more than one.

So WHAT WAS THE PLAN? We know the perp. What was the PLAN? What was he really trying to do.

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Sadie Slays

People did NOT vote for this. The last election proved the widespread fraud, plus Project Veritas proved that Ilhan Omar’s district is full of fraud. 

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“People did NOT vote for this.”



It was a hostile military takeover.

While our military watched.

And as it turns out, they make excellent watchers, some of the very best.

The only problem is, that’s not what we hired, trained and equipped them to do.

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I think it was strategic. I know the hopium stuff sounds absolutely absurd, but when I look at how badly the left is self-discrediting now, I think somebody had to have foreseen this.

I think somebody said “Dudes – we need to go for a WHITE KNUCKLE ride with Corn Pop, Cryin’ Chuck, and Polident – and they will NEVER recover. If we fight them NOW, it’s just chaos on US, but if we let THEM control things, it will be chaos on THEM.”



I am really thinking we would have never gotten so much REVELATION the other way. Now EVERYBODY knows how BAD they are. I think they did it INTENTIONALLY.

I don’t even know if they told Trump, or gave him a choice.

Deplorable Patriot

We’re watching a movie, a show.

The REAL action is going on without cameras pointed at it.

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The way the Dems are freaking out about Arizona, tells me they are sure thinking the electoral wagons got circled around THEM by the White Hat Tribe.


And Dodge, FIB and the courts did NOTHING.

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Heh. GrammyinD missed each other by moments at Emerson Junior High School in Davis, CA. I got yanked back to hell Newhall while she went on to graduate HS in Davis.


This guy looks good…Joe Kent.

He’s a veteran who is running in the R-primary in Washington state, against a RINO that voted to impeach Pres Trump.

Article about him:

Shane Trejo does a good interview with Joe Kent and there is a video of it in this article.


This is a video that Joe posted in March:

[video src="https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/069/867/107/playable/5fb3f1cf61621acc.mp4" /]


This  👆  is the interview with Shane Trejo…I hope it posts.

Regular URL:


Edit: Arrgh, I couldn’t get that Rumble video to post.

EDIT BY WOLF: gotta use the (top) embeddable player code set to IFRAME

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Thanks for assist, boss!

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This guy is AWESOME!!!


I wish we had a hundred more like him!

BTW, I tried to embed that Rumble video but couldn’t get the {} function to work for me.

It’s a really good interview, so I was hoping people could watch it here.
Joe talks about being in the CIA and the corruption there.

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There are TWO IFRAME codes – make sure you pick the top option. Embeddable Player with the IFRAME option on the switcher.


Right, yes that’s the one I picked.

Not the Javascript one…the one below it.

And the video shows up in the comment box, too.
It shows up like ‘mission accomplished’.

But then when I hit ‘Post Comment’…it disappears.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Below” has two meanings here – there may still be confusion.

I’m going to be assholishly precise, so please forgive me.

This embed option screen offers NO WORKING OPTION.
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This one offers only ONE – the top one. The second IFRAME option still does not work.
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Yes, boss…the top one has a second option — IFRAME.

That’s the one I’ve been using.

The top one toggles between two options:
JavaScript and IFRAME.

IFRAME option is below the JavaScript option.
That’s what I meant when I said “below”.

I pick the IFRAME one…then put it into the {} function in the comment box.

When I hit “Insert” the video appears in the comment box.

And I’m like…”Yay. It worked!”

Then I hit ‘Post Comment’ and the video disappears.