2022·01·15 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

Yo, Brian Stelter!

When I was a kid, I got nicknamed “Bald Eagle” because I actually was getting notably thin “up there.” Of course today “Bald Eagle” might be a cool nickname, but in junior high school, it definitely was not a cool thing.

Fast forward to today, and now here I am over twenty years older than you are, and even in spite of that poor start, I have better hair than you do.

And I am not a piss-guzzling, shit-gobbling communist “journalist” (what a sick joke) either.

On both accounts you must absolutely hate looking into the mirror.

And Oh By The Way probably more people read my posts than watch you bloviate on air. And yes, I know your ratings dropped again. One would think there’s be a limit to that…you can’t drop below zero, can you?

RINOs an Endangered Species?
If Only!

According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.

Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.

I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.

But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.

The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the so-called populists stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.

Given the results of Tuesday’s elections, the Left will now push harder, and the RINOs will now turn even squishier than they were before.

I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.

This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you piece of rancid weasel shit?

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

While We Wait…and Wait…and Wait, for The Storm

Well, I probably should change out Beethoven’s Sixth Symphony.

Here’s the first movement of Mozart’s 40th Symphony, played by an orchestra in Georgia.

…no, the other Georgia, the one whose capital is Tbilisi. (And yes there is no vowel between the T and the b, and they pronounce it with no “uh” in between. It’s actually not hard. The same language sometimes strings six or seven consonants in a row.)

Mozart didn’t number his symphonies, and for the first part of his life he did not keep track of everything he composed. Later on, he did. But it seems like every few years or so someone opens a drawer in a piece of antique furniture and–lo and behold!–there is an early Mozart symphony in there, one previously unknown. Some are fakes, of course.

When someone first undertook to number Mozart’s symphonies sequentially, there were 41 known; and the later ones’ dates were known because Mozart had started keeping track. So this is his second to last symphony.

As early ones were found in someone’s antique desk, they got numbered 42, 43, and so forth out of order, and so now you will see references to symphony #55. [Also, #2, #3, and #37 aren’t actually his, but were attributed by mistake.] But do not be fooled, his last three symphonies were numbers 39, 40 and 41–there’s a document trail. He wrote them all fairly close together in 1788, in fact he went straight from writing #40 to writing #41 without some other intervening work. He probably never heard them performed.

They’re all well worth listening to. His style was getting more expressive and dramatic. In his earlier life a symphony had to follow rules and not be too outrageous. And the 40th had plenty of stuff in it that was outrageous–by the standards of the 1780s, anyway. The effect at the time was of dropping an Iron Maiden track into the playlist of an “easy listening” station. (Just having it be in a minor key was “out there.”)

Beethoven, of course, continued the trend. That storm movement from last week? It would never have been tolerated in the 1780s.

Mozart died in 1791, about six decades too early; he wasn’t even forty yet. Beethoven’s 5th and 6th symphonies came along in 1808. The two never met. Beethoven was planning to study under Mozart in 1790, but something or other (I don’t remember what) caused that to fall awry, and the next year…it was too late.

If Mozart had lived, would he have been right beside Beethoven, breaking all the rules but doing so with genius? This last trio of Mozart’s are an argument in favor. Mozart was clearly chafing a bit under the conventions of his day.

For comparison here’s a randomly-chosen early symphony, #14…the entire thing is barely 20 minutes long and that’s long for its time. In 1771, when this was written, a symphony wasn’t a major work. I like his symphonies as a class, but people used to Beethoven might find a lot of his early ones to be very…hum drum.

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1798.00
Silver $22.45
Platinum $969.00
Palladium $2025.00
Rhodium $18,500.00

This week, 3 PM MT on Friday, markets closed for the weekend

Gold $1,819.10
Silver $23.06
Platinum $979.00
Palladium $1,875.00
Rhodium $17,400.00

At the end of the week: Things are up, net, for this week in gold/silver/platinum land, however everything went down today from higher levels..

How To Find Extrasolar Planets

There are basically three methods used to find extrasolar planets, though there are a couple of oddball exceptions to that.

But I have to get a couple of preliminaries out of the way, first.

With respect to this particular topic, I’m going to be throwing around “astronomical units.” An astronomical unit was originally defined to be the average distance between Earth and the Sun; it’s a holdover from the days when we had no idea what that distance actually was, but could readily determine the distances between everything in the solar system, in terms of that distance. So we could say that Jupiter was 5.2 AU from the Sun, and that was useful information, even if we didn’t know how much an AU was. Of course now we have very accurate measurements, accurate enough that we finally decided in 2012 to define the AU in meters (which technically decouples it from the Earth-Sun distance–if we end up refining that measurement at some future, our defined AU could be not quite the distance from Earth to the Sun).

In any case, an AU is: 149,597,870,700 m or roughly 150 million kilometers (a somewhat round number) or 93 million miles. And having said that, I probably won’t talk about kilometers or miles ever again in this article, unless it’s a totally different context (like the size of a planet).

Because the scientists themselves invariably use AUs as their yardstick when working inside a planetary system.

The light year–the distance light travels in a year–is a much longer distance:  9,460,730,472,580,800 or roughly 10 trillion kilometers/6 trillion miles. In this particular case, this is a unit they use mostly for talking to us rubes..they generally prefer the parsec (~3.26 light years). Either unit is suitable for talking about distances to other stars; the nearest stars being a bit over four light years away.

Comparing the two units a light year is about 63,240 AU.

Which right there be a big hint. If an AU is a good unit to measure planetary systems with, and it’s about 1/60,000th the size of a good unit to measure the distances between stars (and hence their planetary systems, if they have them)–proportionally speaking the distance between planetary systems is HUGE in comparison to the sizes of the systems themselves. And it’s true: If the Earth’s orbit (which has a diameter of 2 AU) were the size of a ping pong ball (2 AU = 40mm) the nearest star would be over five kilometers away. Even figuring the solar system (including Kuiper Belt objects) at 100 AUs in diameter, that’s still a LOT of space between planetary systems.

OK, leaving distances behind us for now, masses have a similar phenomenon. Astronomers never talk in kilograms or pounds. Instead, they talk in earth masses, Jupiter masses, or when dealing with stars, solar masses. Because if they didn’t they’d be throwing around numbers like 1.9 x 1027 kg (the mass of Jupiter). Literally astronomical numbers. And they’re a pain.

That’s three different units, so let me inter-relate them. Jupiter has 317.8 times the mass of Earth. The sun has 1047 times the mass of Jupiter. So the Sun has 332,950 earth masses in it. Those are fairly big leaps, one to the next, which is why astronomers will tend to use whatever unit makes the most sense at the moment.

Finally, there’s the matter of angular distance. The moon (and sun), as seen from the earth, cover circles half a degree across. In other words, if you could somehow stretch a string from the right edge of the moon, down to you, then another string to the left edge, then take out a protractor and measure the angle between the strings…it would be about half a degree. A degree is subdivided into 60 minutes of arc, so the angle is also expressable as 30 arc seconds. A minute of arc is about the width of a quarter seen at a hundred yards.

A minute of arc can in turn be subdivided into 60 arc seconds, and now you’re getting very narrow. Arc seconds start pushing close to how fine a telescope can resolve things. But astronomers do talk about milliarcseconds (thousandths of an arc second). They tend to use these units a lot, too. (It’s something that can be directly measured, right off a photograph of the night sky for instance. To get actual distances between two objects that are, say, 24.7 arc seconds apart, we need to know how far away the objects are)

OK, on to the detection methods. I said that most extrasolar planets have been found with one of three methods. I’m also going to list a fourth method that seems like it ought to work…but never did work out very well.

Direct Imaging

The blindingly obvious one, of course, is to simply point a telescope at some star and look. Are there planets near it?

I said “blindingly” for a reason, though.

Astronomers can figure out what it’d be like to try to see Earth this way, from some other star. Even from a relatively close distance like 25 light years, it’s damned near impossible.

The earth shines solely by reflected sunlight. And it’s small enough, and far enough away from the Sun, that it only intercepts a billionth of the light the sun cranks out, continuously. So even if it reflected all of the light that hit it, it couldn’t possibly be more than a billionth as bright as the Sun.

At that distance, an AU (our distance from the Sun remember) is much less than a second of arc in the sky. So we need to spot something a billionth as bright as the sun, basically right next to the sun, even as seen in our sharpest telescopes.

This has been compared to trying to spot a firefly, flying next to a Las Vegas searchlight…all the way from New York.

But if you think about it…a large planet–at least the size of Jupiter–further away from a star might be doable, if you can somehow mask the star itself so its light doesn’t blind the telescope.


It’s a bit of a simplification to refer to a planet orbiting a star. Or for that matter, a moon orbiting a planet…or anything else in such a context.

Whatever the two things are, they actually both orbit about their center of gravity–also called the barycenter. If a moon has 1/81th the mass of the planet it orbits, the center of gravity is a point 1/82nd of the distance from the planet to the moon. That might actually be inside the planet, but it’s not at the center of the planet. (And that’s the number for the Earth/Moon system.)

Here’s an example, with the barycenter inside the larger body.

In principle, we should be able to detect a dark body (like a planet) orbiting a star–if we can see the star wobble.

The wobble would be extremely small. Obviously the closer the star the better. But there’s a complicating factor: The stars aren’t stationary. They do move around up there, they just do it slowly enough we don’t notice. However some constellations have noticeably changed shape since the Greeks first mapped them; this is especially the case when one of the bright stars in the constellation is bright because it’s close to us. Obviously, it will appear to move faster across our sky the closer it is, given an actual speed (in kilometers/second).

This is called proper motion and it’s measured in terms of the arc across the sky. And really it’s only one component of a star’s motion–its the component of the motion that’s perpendicular to our line of sight. Movement toward or away from us doesn’t show at all, and it’s called radial motion.

The star that is moving across our sky the fastest is one that’s not visible to the unaided eye; it’s called Barnard’s star (or Barnard’s Arrow), and it’s moving at .802 arc seconds per year. That doesn’t sound like much, but it’s a huge proper motion.

So this method should work on nearby stars, but they will be the stars with the highest proper motion. So we would need to plot the position of the star over a couple of years, and see if, instead of traveling in a straight line, it’s drawing curclicues in the sky, like someone writing “eeeeeeeee” in cursive. If so, we can figure out how long it takes for the invisible planet to orbit the visible star–the time it takes to draw one of those cursive “e”s. You can even tell the eccentricity (how narrowly elliptical it is, versus being nearly circular) of the orbit from the exact shape of the “eeeeee.”

If there is an identical star-and-planet pair twice as far away, the “eeeee” drawn on the celestial sphere will be half as big. This method is very sensitive to the star’s distance.

Besides requiring a relatively close star, this method would work best for a planetary system whose orbits are face-on to us. If they’re tipped in some oblique plane relative, then less of the planetary motion (and balancing motion of the star) is perpendicular to us, so there will be, apparently, less wobble to detect. And we might not be able to assess that. A face-on small planet could have the same apparent effect as a much more massive planet, in an orbit that’s nearly edge-on.

This method was tried a lot in the mid 20th century and perhaps earlier, and failed–there were some claims of finding planets around nearby stars with it, but none of them are accepted today.


Conceptually, this one is very, very simple. Here’s a photograph I took about ten years ago, that will serve as an illustration of how this one could work:

June 6, 2012 transit of Venus. The prominent dark spot is Venus. Other fainter dark spots are sunspots.

That is our Sun, photographed through a filter like those given out for viewing eclipses. There’s a dark spot; that’s the planet Venus, which does cross directly in front of the Sun as seen from Earth twice every hundred years or so. The next such occurrence will be in 2117.

Imagine watching an event like this from several light years away. What would you see?

You wouldn’t see the Sun’s disc, not from that far away, and you certainly wouldn’t see the dark dot of the planet crossing in front of it. But what you would see, if you had an accurate enough light meter, is a slight drop in the brightness of the star as the planet crossed in front of it.

And the amount of the drop will indicate how big the planet is in relation to the star. This is the only one of these methods that will show us the size of the planet.

If we wait around for the next transit, we know the period of the planet, i.e., the length of its year. (Of course, if there are two or even more planets transiting from time to time, we need to watch for a longer time until we can see the overlapping patterns and sort them out.)

You could even tell if the planet had an atmosphere, based on how the light brightness drops as the planet begins to cross in front of the star. A fairly sharp transition indicates no atmosphere, a slight dimming at the very beginning indicates the planet has an atmosphere that reduced the star’s brightness ever so slightly before the actual opaque body of the planet got into the act.

With a spectroscopic analysis (the whole running-the-light-through-a-prism-and-looking-for-absorption-lines thing) you might even get some notion of what’s in the atmosphere.

Also, you can wait for the planet to pass behind the star and see what changes. It would be a very tiny dimming–after all the planet will be a billionth as bright as the star–but you could look at the difference in the light, not just how bright it is, but spectroscopically–and learn something about the temperature and composition of the planet.

So long as the star is close enough that we can see it easily (in a telescope of course), it doesn’t matter how far away it is. (Of course if the star is so far away we can barely detect it at all to begin with, then we won’t be able to measure the tiny drop in brightness involved.)

So this is a very versatile method, but it has one really big disadvantage: It won’t work unless the planetary orbital plane is edge on to us. And almost all of them shouldn’t be–they’ll be at some random tilt. So there could be fifteen planets orbiting some star but if their orbits are in any configuration other than edge-on, we’d never have even a hint of them. Also, to truly work well, this method must be done from a space telescope–the Earth’s atmosphere introduces too much noise (the highly technical term for the noise is “twinkling”) that would overwhelm the very slight difference in brightness we are looking for.

Doppler Shift

Method number 4 brings our old friend the Doppler shift to the table. Please note, this is a “real” Doppler shift, due to approach/recession speed of the star, not the cosmological red shift due to the stretching of space. So we’re about to use Smokey’s means of measuring your speed, on the star.

Here’s a video explaining why Doppler shift happens (in case you need a review):

One objection you might have, is that if a star emits a continuous spectrum, how can you tell it red-shifts as it moves away from us? Sure, the light that would be reddish-orange looks a little bit redder. but there’s other, slightly more orange light that gets redshifted to replace the original reddish-orange light.

This is a very good objection, but it’s based on a premise that’s not quite true; stars don’t emit a perfectly continuous spectrum. Their atmospheres absorb certain very specific wavelengths, leaving gaps in the spectra, and we can measure where those gaps are.

The gaps should be at certain exact frequencies. But if the star is heading towards or away from us, those gaps shift. We’re actually measuring the red (or blue) shift from the gaps. So if we measure where the gaps are and they’re not quite where we’d measure them in the lab, we know the entire spectrum has shifted either towards blue or red.

Most of what we know about stars comes from studying their spectra–and we know quite a lot about them. If you’re a professional astronomer, this is a big part of your life.

Returning to exoplanets: This is really another way to detect a planet by noticing the star’s wobble, except that this time, we’re using the Doppler shift to measure the wobble. We can watch the star’s radial (toward or away from us) speed over a period of time, and note any sort of periodic variation. For example some star might be moving towards us at 12.5 kilometers per second. But if we measure it repeatedly over time, and one year it’s moving at 12.510 kilometers per second, but six years later, it’s moving at 12.490 kilometers per second, but then six years later, it’s back to 12.510 kilometers/second…well then we can infer that there’s a 0.01 kilometer/second or 10 meter/second wobble…that takes twelve years to cycle.

This is precisely how Jupiter would affect our Sun, by the way: a ten meter per second “signal” over a space of about 12 years.

We can measure Doppler shifts to within about a meter per second, so we could detect Jupiter by this means. But we have to watch for a long enough time that the planet completes a couple of orbits, otherwise we don’t know what part of the Doppler shift is from the simple straight-line motion of the star, and what part is induced “wobble” from the planet(s) orbiting the star. And if there are multiple planets, the signal is more complicated.

The earth, unfortunately, only induces a ten centimeter (or so) per second wobble in the Sun…which means we couldn’t detect it by this method.

The good news is this is another method that can work on distant stars. As long as we can take a spectrograph of it, we can use this method…if we have the patience to wait for a planetary orbit or two.

Once we know the size and period of the wobble, we can figure out how massive the planet is…well, sort of. Allow me to explain.

The detected red-and-blue shifts will be greatest if the planetary orbit is edge on to us. That way (ignoring for the moment the actual overall radial motion of the star) the planet will be travelling directly towards us on one side of its orbit (and the star will be receding–red shift), and directly away from us on the other side (and the star will be approaching–blue shift). But if the orbit is tilted at a 60 degree angle to us, instead of 0 degrees, the signal will be half as strong. The same planet, at the same distance from the star, will produce only half as much of a blue/red shift in its star.

This method won’t tell us that inclination, so when we get a signal and use it to determine the planet’s mass, it’s a minimum value. The planet could be twice as massive as we measured–but in an orbit with a 60 degree tilt, rather than edge on. It’s called the “sin I” error because the error depends directly on the sine of the inclination angle, I.

The First Extrasolar Planet Detection

So which of these methods was used in 1992 when the first extrasolar planets were detected?

Well, none of the above, actually.

That first extrasolar detection came completely out of left field, from a place no one would have dreamed to go looking. This is a classic example of serendipity: some scientists saw something odd they couldn’t explain…and when they followed up on it, they got a nice little surprise.

On February 9, 1990, Polish astronomer Aleksander Wolszczan used the Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico and discovered a new pulsar, which eventually became designated “PSR B1257+12” (meaning it was at 12 hours, 57 minutes right ascension, declination +12). The pulse length is 6.22 milliseconds (9650 RPM). And the pulsar is 2600 light years away, meaning that the signal we get from it today left the pulsar almost a century before Leonidas was born.

A pulsar is a neutron star (and a neutron star is the corpse of a dead star, the supernova “leftover” of a star that wasn’t quite massive enough to form a black hole) spinning about an axis and sweeping us with at least one of the two beams of energy focused by its extremely intense magnetic field, in exactly the same way a light house beam sweeps past. Only much, much faster.

Over time, as the pulsar radiates energy away, it will spin slower an slower, but in the short term it’s an extremely regular signal.

Except that this particular pulsar’s signal wasn’t quite so regular; it seemed to shift a bit in period over time. Why would this be?

It turns out, this pulsar is orbited by planets. The shift in interval between pulses is due to a bit of red shift/blue shift like wobble; as the pulsar moves towards us, its pulses seem to be spaced more closely, as it moes away, they are spaced further apart. Even though the phenomenon is similar, this isn’t quite a normal Doppler shift, because it’s the interval between pulses, rather than the frequency of steadily-emitted light, that is affected.

This was quite a surprise. The usual assumption is that any planets orbiting near a star that goes supernova will be destroyed. And I don’t mean “destroyed” as in “all life on the planet will be killed,” I mean “destroyed” as in “the entire ball of rock will be gone.” But perhaps something different happened here.

Astronomers are pretty sure the planets (there are at least three of them) are not original but formed after the neutron star was created. In this particular case, it is believed by many that this particular pulsar is the result of the merger of two white dwarfs, not of a supernova.

Wolszczan discovered two of the planets himself in 1992, a third planet was discovered in 1994.

These planets, and the pulsar itself actually got named, and in all cases the names suggest death and graveyards, appropriate since the pulsar itself is the corpse of a star. Or two, if the merger theory is correct.

The pulsar itself is now named Lich, after a sort of mythical undead creature, similar to a zombie.

Poltergeist and Phobetor (“Frightenter”) were the first two planets discovered. They weigh in at 4.3 and 3.9 Earth masses, respectively, at distances of 0.36 and 0.46 AU. Draugr (named for an undead creature from Norse mythology) is the third planet discovered, but it’s closer to Lich at 0.19 AU. Its mass is a mere 0.02 Earth masses, making it by far the lightest extrasolar planet discovered to date. These were originally labeled B, C, and A respectively (in order of distance from Lich), before the current convention was established; now Draugr is labeled ‘b” and Poltergeist and Phobetor ‘c’ and ‘d.’

There are some hints of an asteroid belt in this system, or possibly a Kuiper belt.

Now this is a very bizarre system, totally unexpected. The discovery hit us out of left field, and for three years the only planets known other than the ones orbiting our own sun…were orbiting a neutron star. Did I mention this is bizarre?

I personally cannot imagine a more grim, inhospitable place to visit, and apparently neither could the people who named the pulsar and its planets. Awash in the flickering beam of instantly-lethal radiation (the sort that vaporizes your eyeballs and melts your body) from the corpse of a star, this is merely a Hell where the fire is particle beams instead of burning sulfur. And it is a cold Hell, too; even Draugr, the closest, is expected to have a surface temperature of -7 C.

You wouldn’t suffer for more than a second or two.

More “normal” extrasolar planets would have to wait until 1995…but even with them, there were some real surprises.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

If anyone ends up in the cell right next to him, tell him I said “hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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When will NASA make a Webb coin? To celebrate the first time govt got everything to work properly.



If there’s anything on the coin that’s supposed to unfold, make sure to maintain a safe distance.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Malone and Berenson and FOX NEWS – the latter pimping a story about a small group of Wokes who want Spotify to ban Joe Rogan for hosting Malone.



Alex Berenson: “censorship is wrong and content moderation is another word for censorship and it and this this this drive to try to get people banned must stop it’s un-American.”


Why must it stop?

Nobody ever asks that question, they just declare “It must stop!”, as if the declaration has some kind of magical power.

Why would it stop?

It’s being done very much on purpose, by people who have an overwhelming self-interest in continuing the censorship, so WHY must it stop?

Because Alex doesn’t like it, or think it’s right? I certainly agree, it’s not right, but what in the world does that have to do with anything — including making it stop?

It’s just the most bizarre thing, this disconnect between the relief people want and the total lack of understanding about how to make that change happen, that seems to have swept over the entire world.

It’s like a billion people screaming at a slice of apple pie, declaring it “must” move!

If they want the slice of apple pie to move, then SOMEBODY pick it the #@&* up and move it, because it isn’t gonna move any other way. Screaming about it and stomping your feet isn’t going to accomplish anything.

If someone is looting a store, you can scream that he “must stop!” until your lungs fall out, but the looter isn’t actually going to stop until somebody stops him. The words “must” and “stop” have no magical power over bad people who do bad things.

I’m sorry about that, but it’s just true.

Have evil people ever “stopped” anything they’re doing, because good or civilized or law-abiding people said they ‘must’?

The utter and complete impotence is both hilarious and tragic at the same time.

Nothing stops unless someone stops the people who are doing it. And if there is a single example in the history of the world where the people who are committing and benefiting from evil actions decided to “stop” because good people said they ‘must’, I’m not aware of it.

If anything, I would expect the censorship to increase, and the longer nobody stops it, I would expect it to increase exponentially.

Because the longer such evil continues without being stopped, the more emboldened the evil doers become, as they realize that they can get away with anything, because — amazingly, incredibly — nobody is going to stop them.

So they do it more, and other things, worse things, besides.

And they will keep doing more, everything will continue to get worse, until enough people decide they’re going to stop it.


A lot of times people say “it must stop” as a declaration that they want it to stop. I think these kinds of declarations are important indicators of where people stand (except, of course, when people are saying them deceitfully). Such statements are also a form of leadership — inadequate, as you point out, because the real action comes in actually stopping something rather than just talking about it; but they can be rallying cries.

Many times people don’t know how to stop something, and yes, as you say, they feel powerless and state that it must stop without saying how — because they don’t know how. One person could stand and say, “I’m going to stop this,” and everyone would know that wouldn’t happen because it’s not possible for one person to do that.

“This must stop” often means “We have to find a way to make this stop.” And of course people could just say that instead.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Your last formulation is correct, and should be stated that way.

WE must do something. WE must find a way.

I think Scott has a point. It’s time to talk in concrete terms.

MUST on their part requires some means of OUR enforcement. THEY have all the means except our last one – arms and rebellion – which we are not ready to use.

It is WE who “must” find better immediate solutions to bring them down.

Our “must” is worthless. We need more immediate and debilitating ways to make “must” a reality on their part.


“I think Scott has a point.”




My man with the speech of all time – my movie. 😂


We have the way. We truly do. All it requires is “concerted” action (nod to Steve for today’s “concerts”).

All we have to do is STOP watching Youtube, STOP using Spotify, STOP using Twitter, and all other media that does this crap.

Use platforms like Rumble and Gab that don’t DO THIS SHIT. And don’t EVER, EVER use the others, for any reason.

WTF is Rogan doing on Spotify? Isn’t there ANY alternative? I’ll bet if he talked to Torba, they’d figure out something, because whatever else he is, Torba is laser-focused on FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

We have the power of our attention and our MONEY.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

True! They keep us on their platforms, and we act surprised when they seem to be ahead of us, too.




It is harder, no doubt.


“This must stop” often means “We have to find a way to make this stop.” And of course people could just say that instead.”


They could, but they won’t, which everyone should note, because it never happens.

Because to ask the question is to elicit the obvious answer, to dump that thought right in the middle of the frontal cortex, where no one apparently wants it to be.

To ask ‘how” is to prompt the exact thought which is so desperately being denied.

So long as empty declarations that something ‘must stop’ are invoked, everyone can continue to go about the business of disposing themselves to suffer, while evils are sufferable, [rather] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But to ask the question “how” [can it be stopped]?

That is the first step on a path, the beginning of the end of tyranny.

And to those who have grown comfortable with tyranny, what could be more frightening, than to contemplate bringing an end to it?



That’s why I brought up the old frog in boiling water illustration not long ago, because that is what is happening.

All protestations without actions that follow are empty. The evil see it as a sign of weakness. So they keep testing and probing.

Let’s resolve to find solutions that include the Lord. It would be great if we did that on here.


The analogy only works if the frogs don’t realize the water is being brought to a boil.

And yet, the frogs have awakened, and more and more are jumping out of the pot on a daily basis.

If this was not true, the desperate and now openly blatant censorship the left is now engaged in would not be happening.


“And yet, the frogs have awakened, and more and more are jumping out of the pot on a daily basis.”


For sake of argument, suppose that was actually true,

How many frogs have to be awake, for the criminals in control of the military (and all other power) to say “Okay, we give up, you win, we’re just going to walk away quietly now”?


It is actually true.

A fact well documented here at Qtree.


“It is actually true. A fact well documented here at Qtree.”


So when you say “the frogs” you actually mean all of the frogs, and you claim it’s well documented?

Very slick how you avoided the actual question… or maybe you just didn’t see it?

How many frogs have to be awake, for the criminals in control of the military (and all other power) to say “Okay, we give up, you win, we’re just going to walk away quietly now”?


“If this was not true, the desperate and now openly blatant censorship the left is now engaged in would not be happening.”


That’s a non-sequitur, i.e., the conclusion does not (necessarily) follow from the premises.

There are lots of reasons why they might be gradually turning up the burner from ‘warm’ to ‘slow boil’ at this point in time, your conclusion is just the one that makes you feel the best.

And conclusions that always support our biases and hopes ought to be the most suspect.


Actually, it is true. Yet another fact well documented here at Qtree.

So much so, in fact, that…as has been pointed out on numerous occasions, by numerous posters….the increasing censorship itself is waking people up.

Or, as Princess Leia once put it…


“Actually, it is true. Yet another fact well documented here at Qtree.”


Your frequent misunderstanding of the definition of words would make a lot more sense… if English isn’t your first language… 😂🤣😂


You have been answered as to the question of “how” many, many times in the past here on this board.

And yet here you are, pretending you have not.

You also like to pretend that nothing is happening…that “no one is doing anything”…which is ridiculously untrue….and you studiously avoid acknowledging any of the many successes and various means undertaken to date in pushing back against what has been happening.

You don’t seem to realize or understand that the Biden agenda is dead in the water. This administration is floundering, being exposed more and more, it’s support crumbling…

…meanwhile state legislatures across the nation have enacted laws which have reversed all the last-minute election rule changes pushed through in the weeks leading up to Nov. 2020, which is PRECISELY why Pelosi and Schumer are apoplectic and want an Unconstitutional federal takeover of elections….which they will not get because Manchin and Sinema refuse to kill the senate fillinuster.

At the same time, a record number of democrats have announced they will not be running for re-election this year and the RINOs in the GOP have been exposed for who they are. Meanwhile, President Trump remains as powerful as ever (in terms of his political support from his base) and his endorsement….particularly his lack of endorsement….is a VERY potent weapon.

You utterly refuse to acknowledge the panic and desperation of the political left and the many signs and indications of it,

And if you are open or hopeful of any path that doesn’t involve violence, you give no indication of it whatsoever.

Sadly, you are the one who is denying so much that is taking place. You are the one who refuses to see reality and the failing agenda of the globalists.

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Point taken! The sight of a Dutch minister mocking the PM and KlauSS SSchwab is a real sign.


Steve Bannon and company are doing things. He touts “Action, action, action” and has guests who inform about various means of taking action, from educating others, to signing petitions, to being involved in politics locally, to influencing Congress about bills, to keeping up pressure nationally, and more.

It’s easy to say that little steps are not enough. It’s easy to say that a pistol or a shotgun is no match for military equipment. But it is precisely those “little things,” and the knowledge that we have a right to them and the will to protect that right, that staves off totalitarianism.

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Every little bit counts. This site has done an enormous amount to push back on Branch Covidian narratives, as well as many other regime lies.



Just one of a very great many.

Saying “No one is doing anything” is pretending not to know…which is both disingenuous and a lie.

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Nobody here is really saying that, though – are they?

I will say this, and ask people to prove me wrong.

The woke faction of the military, who now have their guy in DOD, seems to be helping the other side.

We need that kind of reality slap, to not walk into a dangerous trap, IMO.


Nobody here is really saying that, though – are they?

Yes. One is.

To ask ‘how” is to prompt the exact thought which is so desperately being denied.

So long as empty declarations that something ‘must stop’ are invoked, everyone can continue to go about the business of disposing themselves to suffer, while evils are sufferable, [rather] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But to ask the question “how” [can it be stopped]? That is the first step on a path, the beginning of the end of tyranny.

The ruse at play here is to pretend this topic isn’t discussed on a daily basis. Moreover, that each tactic discussed….to cite just ONE ex: retaking control of the political process at the local levels, then state, then finally federal….an idea enumerated upon by many, including Sundance…either has not been made or won’t work.

It is ENTIRELY disingenuous to say “no one is asking how”. It is a massive projection upon all here, and upon the entire MAGA community as a whole.

And you know it, too.


It is ENTIRELY disingenuous to say “no one is asking how”. It is a massive projection upon all here, and upon the entire MAGA community as a whole.”


What a horribly dishonest characterization.

As always Captain Strawman, you make up your own arguments, attribute them to others, and then proceed to attempt to defeat your own argument.

Exhibit ‘A’ is taking what I said out of context, and then representing it as if I said something I didn’t.

Here’s the context, Capt. Strawman:

TheseTruths: “This must stop” often means “We have to find a way to make this stop.” And of course people could just say that instead.”

My reply: “They could, but they won’t, which everyone should note, because it never happens.”

Notice how my observation was not disputed. People like Alex Berenson, people in PUBLIC, on Faux News and elsewhere, constantly opine that this or that “must stop”, but they never ask the question “how” to stop it.

Because to ask that question is to provoke possible answers, and the talking heads have no interest in any answers, their interest is in provoking outrage and preserving the status quo.


My reply (continued): “Because to ask the question is to elicit the obvious answer, to dump that thought right in the middle of the frontal cortex, where no one apparently wants it to be.”

Again, no one disputed what I actually said.

Bad people won’t just magically ‘stop’ because talking heads say they ‘must stop!’


My reply (continued): “To ask ‘how” is to prompt the exact thought which is so desperately being denied.”

That thought being that bad people don’t stop what they’re doing because other people say they ‘must stop!’, bad people only stop doing what they’re doing because someone forces them to stop.

Otherwise, they don’t stop.

And you have no argument against that, you never even try.

You just engage in personal attacks, because that’s all you’ve got… and everybody knows 😁


“The ruse at play here is to pretend this topic isn’t discussed on a daily basis.”


Uhh… that’s not a ruse…

The topic may get discussed here every day, but solutions that actually have a precedent of success in human history are not discussed here every day.

When someone points out that the government has fallen to hostile foreign adversaries, there is no example in all of recorded history of correcting that little problem by winning seats on the local school board.

It may feel very emotionally gratifying, I can imagine similar claims being made by people in France after the Nazis took over their country.

I don’t know if you know this, but the Nazis were not ultimately defeated by conservatives winning seats on local school boards.

If the Nazis had not been literally forced out of power, everyone in France would be speaking German today.

Even on the school boards.


“Moreover, that each tactic discussed….to cite just ONE ex: retaking control of the political process at the local levels, then state, then finally federal…”


Can you name a single example, in all of human history, where People have successfully voted their way out of tyranny?

There are reasons why I ask these questions you never answer, I’m not just asking them for my health.

It’s a slight variation on the expression “You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.”

The reason for this particular question is to make the point that tyrants don’t care how many votes are cast, they only care who counts the vote.

And since tyrants make sure they count the vote, that gives them a considerable advantage.


“…an idea enumerated upon by many, including Sundance…”


Appealing to Sundance is an appeal to authority, which is a logical fallacy:

Fallacious appeals to authority take the general form of:

1. Person (or people) P makes claim X. Therefore, X is true.

A fundamental reason why the Appeal to Authority can be a fallacy is that a proposition can be well supported only by facts and logically valid inferences.

But by using an authority, the argument is relying upon testimony, not facts. A testimony is not an argument and it is not a fact.


“either has not been made or won’t work.”


Make it to your heart’s content, my focus is always on whether something can work.

And if something has never worked before, in the history of mankind, there’s a clue in there somewhere, about the likelihood that it will be different this time.

But emotional, irrational people (or ‘operatives’ sowing division, in order to maintain the status quo) can’t see that.


“It is ENTIRELY disingenuous to say “no one is asking how”.


Then how disingenuous must it be to keep asserting it, when no one is doing it, but you?

Don’t take my word for it, use the search box in your web browser, and type in “no one is asking how”, which you put in quotes.

The only search results are your original false accusation, plus me quoting your false accusation, not once, not twice, but three times.

You said it, you falsely put it in quotes and claimed that I said it, as part of your Straw Man modus operandi.

It’s just so dishonest it’s breathtaking… and yet predictable like clockwork.


“It is a massive projection upon all here, and upon the entire MAGA community as a whole.”


More broad, sweeping, unsubstantiated assertions and false accusations.

At this point, you could even be the Father of them!


“And you know it, too.”


And then you finish with another personal attack on our host.

Because that’s just how you roll… 😂 🤣 😂

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“Saying “No one is doing anything” is pretending not to know…”


Who actually said that… besides you?


“…which is both disingenuous and a lie.”


And what does that make you?

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“You have been answered as to the question of “how” many, many times in the past here on this board.”


What example has been given which can withstand even casual scrutiny?

Go ahead and list your best three. Your very best.

Let’s see if even a single one of them has ever been successful, in the history of the world, to overcome a totalitarian government.


“And yet here you are, pretending you have not.”


Pretend is your specialty, not mine.

I don’t have to pretend, because I’m not living in denial. What is this “how” of which you speak, that has ever succeeded, anywhere, in the entire history of mankind, to overthrow tyranny?


“You also like to pretend that nothing is happening…”


False again, Captain Falsemeister.

As you recently observed, no one knows what is going on behind the scenes (which, by definition, also means we don’t know if NOTHING is going on behind the scenes).

And more recently (12-31-21), you wrote “Lord knows President Trump is hard at work behind the scenes working to effect this exact outcome,”

To which I replied: “Indeed, the Lord does know. The rest of us, however, are not the Lord, and therefore, aren’t privy to that information.

The clue was right there in your expression ‘behind the scenes‘.”

I’m not pretending anything, but you are, you have to pretend something is going on behind the scenes, because you have no evidence for it, as you have conceded in your own words.


“that “no one is doing anything”…which is ridiculously untrue….”


A) lots of people are ‘doing things’. Mike Lindell is doing things, Sydney Powell was doing things, Mike Flynn made some public appearances, Patrick Byrne was on TV a lot, Juan O Savin gave some great talks. Lyn Wood asked a bunch of questions that nobody wanted answered.

Where did that get us?

B) there have been lots of ‘investigations’ and ‘hearings’ and lawsuits filed over election fraud in the 2020 election.

Where did that get us?

Same old games…

C) at the grassroots level, there have been several outstanding speeches given at school board meetings.

Do the tyrants look scared yet?

Are they ready to crack?


“…and you studiously avoid acknowledging any of the many successes and various means undertaken to date in pushing back against what has been happening.”


False again, Burgermeister Falsermeister.

I acknowledge ALL of them.

I also acknowledge that, sadly, not a single one of them has any historical precedent in successfully dislodging tyranny from power.


“You don’t seem to realize or understand that the Biden agenda is dead in the water.”


And yet he (and his puppet masters) are still in power, still doing immeasurable damage, still trying to start wars all over the globe, destroying the economy, and murdering 100s of thousands of Americans with the Covid grift & control scam scheme.


“This administration is floundering, being exposed more and more, it’s support crumbling…”



Suppose the next poll that came out showed that [JB] has ZERO support.

All the frogs were 100% alert and awake.

What then?

Is that when the [JB] administration, and more importantly their hidden puppet masters, blush and say “Okay, I guess we’ll just leave now, since you don’t like us anymore?”

In the history of the world, which tyrannical dictatorship ever gave up power and simply walked away, because their People no longer supported them at the polls?


“…meanwhile state legislatures across the nation have enacted laws which have reversed all the last-minute election rule changes pushed through in the weeks leading up to Nov. 2020,”


Ooh… more laws!

And who, pray tell, will enforce these new laws?

Please tell me it won’t be the same people who enforced the old laws…

I noticed that these brave and courageous law-changers didn’t actually overturn any stolen election results.

That was supposed to happen back in April, remember? Then it was pushed back to May. Then it was just sorta lost amidst the avalanche of more recent ‘news’, like always.

Like always.

Stall for time, and allow current events to distract the public, and soon they forget, and another crisis (for the criminals) is safely put to bed.

Over and over and over again.


“…which is PRECISELY why Pelosi and Schumer are apoplectic and want an Unconstitutional federal takeover of elections….which they will not get because Manchin and Sinema refuse to kill the senate fillinuster.”


We’ll see!

Personally, I wouldn’t bet the farm on Sinema and Manchin… not only members of the Uni-Party, but who actually wear the Democrat team jersey…

But I know the Kabuki Theater, the drama, the intrigue, is extremely effective, the people LOVE it, and it works extremely well for the dick-taters, so the show must certainly go on!


“At the same time, a record number of democrats have announced they will not be running for re-election this year and the RINOs in the GOP have been exposed for who they are.”


When was the last time a nation voted itself out of tyranny?

(asking for a friend)


“Meanwhile, President Trump remains as powerful as ever (in terms of his political support from his base) and his endorsement….particularly his lack of endorsement….is a VERY potent weapon.”


His support for the vaccine is certainly growing in popularity.


“You utterly refuse to acknowledge the panic and desperation of the political left and the many signs and indications of it,”


Because it’s meaningless BS. It’s just your characterization of the enemy, because it makes you feel good. It makes us feel good to say it like a holy mantra, but when was the last time you ever saw a tyrant actually panic?

Baghdad Bob didn’t even panic, and he was broadcasting in live TV, claiming the Americans were nowhere near the capital, while full auto machine guns were clearly heard, coming from outside the window in the press room.

Everybody around the world laughed at Baghdad Bobby, but he didn’t ‘panic’.

None of our criminals are having to deal with anything approaching Baghdad Bob’s predicament.

But for sake of argument, suppose a few of the political-class did panic.

So what?

Who’s going to arrest them, or hold them accountable?

Suppose they ALL panicked. Will they all just pack up and leave in the middle of the night?

Is that the Great Hope?

Or is any so-called ‘panic’, if it actually happened, 100% more likely to result in taking ever more heavy-handed measures to secure their power and control?

Historically, how do dick-taters respond to the public’s perception that the dick-taters are ‘panicking’?

Do they vacate the seats of power?

Or do they double down on tyranny?


“And if you are open or hopeful of any path that doesn’t involve violence, you give no indication of it whatsoever.”


What does my ‘hope’ have to do with the price of beans in Tijuana?

It’s not about me.

Would an indication really make you feelz any better?

If so, then I’ll do it.

I hope you’re right, that the baddies just decide to spontaneously walk away.

You feel better now?

Does it change anything?

Personalizing it, trying to make it about me, is just an avoidance tactic, a dodge, a misdirection ploy, a smokescreen, a red-herring.


“Sadly, you are the one who is denying so much that is taking place.”


I have not denied a single thing that has provably taken place.

Not one.

What I have repeatedly observed, and pointed out, is that none of the things which have provably taken place, have any history of removing tyranny, in the history of humanity.

On the other hand, the ‘tell’ of the fantasists, is that most of the unprovable stuff they rely on to fuel the fantasy, is actually about the use of force.

Whether it’s arrests, or secret flights to Gitmo, or secret renditions in the Bahamas, or exploding fuel and ammo depots, or mysterious ‘deaths’, the only limitation is the imagination, and nearly all of it has to do with ‘force’ of one kind or another.

But they have no credible evidence for any of it, just ‘narrative’, and even the ‘narrative’ is ultimately from an anonymous source, because it hadda be that way…


“You are the one who refuses to see reality and the failing agenda of the globalists.”


False again, my friendly falsenmenche.

I welcome and embrace reality with open eyes and both arms. History, too.

It is all those things which you cannot prove which — quite reasonably — I therefore cannot ‘see’.

The kinds of things one must want to see, when they aren’t really (provably) there.

But the things which ARE observable and provable, I certainly see — and also recognize that in all of human history, those things have a zero success record in removing tyranny.

That is the reality which you refuse to see.

And as I have said many a time now, if my realism is misplaced, if I turn out to be wrong in every way, then so much the better — I hope I am wrong!

But if you’re wrong… what then?


To ask ‘how” is to prompt the exact thought which is so desperately being denied.

🤣 😂 🤣

Barb Meier

Thank you God for the peaceful transition of power in the Commonwealth of Virginia today. The pushback on tyranny has begun here and now.


I hope so, Barb! 👍


There Ain’t No Justice!!!

— little fish


Today’s article made me think of this song:

Sylvia Avery

I had such a crush on the drummer, Stewart Copeland…….


All three were outstanding talents.

Sylvia Avery

They really were. Great group. Loved their sound.


There were a surprising number of songs back in the day where Copeland was credited on snare along with the group’s normal drummer. Sting and Summers also were technical virtuosos and found “consulting” and “participating” parts with other groups on other albums.

They were the best of the best, when they weren’t fighting each other like dogs in a pit.

Sylvia Avery

“when they weren’t fighting each other like dogs in a pit” which was evidently all the time!!! 😁😁😁


Well, then there was lunch….

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Some of the most beautiful song lyrics of all time came out of the mind of Sting. So beautiful. This is one of my favorites:



From the old days – when having talent and skill was a requirement to be in the music business. What a tune. 👍🏻


Academically unskilled, yes. Wasn’t there a Playboy interview where John Lennon said they couldn’t read music, or notate? (Although that seems odd with a chorister background.) Totally lacking talent, never seen it until the 21st century. 😄

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Greetings and salutations to our Lady of the Shining Shovel. I hope the world finds you well?

Sylvia Avery

Hey coothie! Doing just fine, and I hope you are as well. I read the article you posted about Woke Silicon Valley with great interest. Gosh I’m glad I’m retired.


I’ve been “semi-retired” for some years rather than fit-in with such shitbirds. If I can get to somewhere marginally more sane, there may be some kicks left to this mule. In the meantime, just trying to wind my way through the maze day-by-day.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Looking forward to MOAR EXOPLANETS.


Yes. I hope the next ones aren’t zombies orbiting another dead sun.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, we already have the gleaming dense neutronium pile KlauSS SSchwab and his orbiting zombies, Biden, Macron and Boris Something. 😉


Boris Something must be quite a comedown after Brexit.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think he’s globalist scum whose plan was to make the EU look good.


I think they got to him when he was hospitalized with “COVID”. Whether that was some implanted death device or something else is open.


Looking at pops history, he’s been in it from the beginning.


Macronae’ 💖💗💓💞💓💗💖 … 💖😌😉💖 … 🤨


Wow. I hope that’s happening at Twitter and Life Log. Maybe they’ll crash and burn and be put out of their misery.


Mozart was 15 years old in 1771, when Symphony No. 14 was written.

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1784-1791, Mozart’s catalogue of his own works, which he kept from 1784 to just before his death in 1791. Cover label (f. i) and contents entirely in Mozart’s hand. Written in ink. Signed ‘Wolfgang Amadé Mozart [paraph]’ on the cover label (f. i). Contents arranged with dates and description of each work on versos (the left page) Zweig MS 63. British Library.



So, he really wasn’t so much of a genius…..he just managed to avoid public schools?


Homeschooling…it’s magical. 😄


He also taught him and nurtured his talent. Leopold Mozart, “Musical Sleigh Ride”

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Mozart Jr. was a prodigy on violin, viola, and keyboards (harpsichord, cembalo, etc.), and played other instruments as well (e.g. winds).

He probably burned the candle at both ends, and in the middle as well, for he died young, as did Schubert and Mendelssohn (who was successful at just about everything he put his hands to)…

From the December 10, 2021 post at https://buffalojewishfederation.org/hours-of-opportunity :

The musical satirist Tom Lehrer liked to tell self-deprecating stories about his bad luck. After one particularly tragic anecdote, he observed, “It’s moments like these when you realize how little you’ve accomplished. For example, it is a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years.”

Lehrer was just 37 years old at the time…..

Btw., Ludwig von Köchel catalogued Mozart’s compositions chronologically, and they’re often referred to by the “K number”… The Catalog is still being updated, and is valuable for musicologists and musicians alike…

Cuppa Covfefe

There was talk about a Köchel 2000… then again, there’s Bach’s BWV…

Same problem as with numbering programs… don’t leave enough space, and you get to renumber (not so much a problem now as it was in the bad old days)… perhaps that was the true inspiration for the GOSUB and CALL statements…

Then again, someone compiling a chronological (chronoillogical?) index of a somewhat disorganized assemblage of compositions should have taken that into consideration… sigh…

I’m impressed that you could rip those symphonies… some of those scores are quite thick 🙂


From Sidney Powell’s Telegram:

Just heard Bloomberg is reporting that DirectTV is dropping OANN. Note: AT&T owns DirectTV. Guess who heads AT&T? The same man (an Obama appointee) who until 3 days after the election headed the hedge fund that held DOMINION. Dominion is suing OANN

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A rather amazing video of a young “Wolverine” minister in the Netherlands standing up to the annoying elite PM. It’s absolutely grand. The PM fires back all snooty and gets taken down multiple times.



^^^ THIS IS a short article WELL WORTH reading.

A brief excerpt…

The Netherlands is the type of place where Davos attendees feel comfy sipping filtered dew from the petals of spring tulips and discussing the best way to save the planet from the scourge of the shallow working class. Okay, so that’s the context…

Into this mix comes a young Dutch wolverine, a new Member of Parliament named Gideon van Meijeren; who appears to be a rather cheeky rebel, quite comfortable telling the elite they look silly. THIS you have to watch to appreciate (Direct Rumble Link):

The two minute video is brief AND hilarious, as the young whipper snapper calls out the lying POS PM.


More at Wolf’s link above.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Still smiling and laughing.

Cuppa Covfefe

The stuff the Davos elites spew out hoping to make their Demonic dreams grow is now spread out all over the fields in Holland, steaming in the snow and freezing air… with the scent of greed (and manure) wafting for tens of miles around… (think of Coalinga in Kalifornistan, times 10 or 100)…


If anyone is still on Farcebook or Twatter, could they nudge Scott Presler to expand his horizons to Gab, Rumble (and others) — I was thinking I hadn’t heard from him in a while and it’s (partially) because I’ve got a hard filter on FB and T.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

He’s on GETTR.


He’s posting on the twitter (the thick of the battle) every day. Not sure why we’d want him to take a step backward into the chorus to be part of the harmony. He much more effective doing his solo thing.


From one of my favorite movies:

Engelberg: [Takes half-empty pint of whiskey from Buttermaker’s glove box and holds it up] You’re not supposed to have open liquor in the car. It’s against the law.
Coach Morris Buttermaker: So is murder, Engelberg. Now put it back before you get me into real trouble.

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Deplorable Patriot

My sister likes to say that that movie was ahead of its time.


Tanner Boyle: All we got on this team are a buncha Jews, spics, niggers, pansies, and a booger-eatin’ moron!

Ogilvie: Tanner, I think you need to be reminded from time to time that you are one of the few people on this team who is not a Jew, spic, nigger, pansy or a booger-eating moron. So you’d better cool it or we may be disposed to beat the crap out of you.


It ain’t BLM:

Coach Morris Buttermaker: [trying to console Ahmad after his errors in the first loss] There was nothing easy about those fly balls, Ahmad. They were tough chances! The sun was in your eyes!
Ahmad Abdul Rahim: Don’t give me none of your honky bullshit, Buttermaker. I know they were easy.
Coach Morris Buttermaker: Let’s not bring race into this, Ahmad. We got enough problems as it is.


One of the more hilarious bits of trivia about this movie is that the “spics” were multi-generation California kids who spoke no Spanish. They had to read it phonetically, and all the Anglos around them probably understood it better than they did.

Which makes this scene somewhat more funny —

Coach Morris Buttermaker: [handing out cups and supporters to the boys] There is one thing I forgot to tell you guys. It’s a league rule: cups and supporters.
[everyone complains]
Coach Morris Buttermaker: Gotta be worn at all times.
[more complaints]
Coach Morris Buttermaker: Either you wear ’em or you don’t wear ’em and you don’t play.
Jose Agilar: ¡Yo no me voy a poner esto! ¡Esto duele!
[Throws his back in the box]
Jose Agilar: [“I’m not going to wear this! It hurts!”]
Coach Morris Buttermaker: What? What are you saying?
Ogilvie: I’ve been brushing up on my Spanish of late, and I think he is saying something about, you know, his being Catholic, and it’s a sin.
Coach Morris Buttermaker: Oh, for Christ’s sake.
[hands it back to Jose]

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s time to mail back every DirecTV junk mail offer with a nasty message inside – SCREW THEM if they’re thinking we’d ever buy a product without OAN.



We’ve got a tangled situation — the only reason we have TV at all is the Fiancee. For historical reasons, it’s DirecTV billed as U-verse TV along with internet — and I pay it and she reimburses me. Since it’s all collapsing nicely without me doing anything, why would I want to step in and make it a point of contention with the Fiancee?

Deplorable Patriot

The head of the household here made a unilateral decision to switch to DirecTV from whatever else we had strictly due to cost. As long as my mother has Blue Bloods, TCM and Fox News, she isn’t going to try to talk him into something else. And so long as Mizzou football and the Blues and the Cardinals are available, they’re not going to see the need to switch providers.

It’s enough to make me scream many days.


This is how it works I used to tell my kids “those who pay make the dissensions”.
That has always been the case.

Sadie Slays

I’m brainstorming creative ideas for the test kits that the government claims they’ll mail out upon request next week. Frankly I’m treating them like Indian smallpox blankets and assuming nothing good will come from using a government test kit, so I won’t use them even if I start having symptoms. Anyways, what can we do with these besides things using them for their intended purpose? Some thoughts…

  • Turn it into protest art, or otherwise some form of creative protest.
  • Keep an unused kit around as a memento of the time period.
  • Request the max amount of kits to drain resources. 

Suggestions welcome.

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Request maximum free kits from government. Stash in closet.

Sell (at profit) to neighbors if they’re deluded enough to want one.

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Yes, that one, and break one out now and then for a kit burning protest. Preferably one where all the vaxxxers are in line to be tested.

Sadie Slays

I expect a lot of these test kits to show up eBay and Craig’s List by the end of February.


Our gandkids will sell the test kids one day as antiques 🙂
Best kept in original packaging

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The laughter of 100+ million people sending stool samples to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. would boost morale exponentially.

No such thing has ever been done before, at least not on a large scale. The MSM would have no choice but to cover it.

The symbolism of a hundred million monkeys ‘flinging poo’ at the totalitarian psychopaths might actually cause death by humiliation.

It’s at least worth a try.

The level of mockery and derision would be off the charts.

These ‘kits’ might make an excellent mailer package… 😁

Sadie Slays


Deplorable Patriot

Kindling for the fire pit? Oh, they’re probably plastic.


Use them to wipe your dog’s arse (or cat’s or goat’s) and send them in for testing…


My dogs and cats are to good for that.  😀  😂 

I wonder those who send he test back if the government keep them into a data base ?
Wonder those who do not send the test back if those will be black listed ?


Reminds me of the old tale from when there was a draft….

A guy gets called, goes in for a physical, it’s late in the day so they tell him to get a urinalysis sample overnight and bring it in the morning.

So he collects some from his grandfather, his dog, and his girlfriend and brings it in.

Draft board calls that afternoon and says that they have some bad news for him…..

“Your dog’s in heat, your gramps has diabetes, your girlfriend is pregnant, and you’re in the army.”




“…treating them like Indian smallpox blankets…”

Agree. Why would any “thinking” American trust the Feds to NOT taint the test kits in some way to 1) create false positives or 2) infect the population with something.

I simply don’t trust the bastards, the Feds that is.

Understanding the test kits are now a pull system (request and they send). The test kits may find few takers. Test kits may become a push system, where they send test kits to whatever mailing list.

BONUS. Feds can waste more money this way AND line the pockets of more cronies.

IF the Feds later choose to push test kits or masks, I’ll mark the package “refused” and give back to the USPS.


The Feds continue to ignore the SIMPLE solution to getting Covid under control and sent to the trash bin of sorts.

  • Therapeutics and aggressive treatment.

At some point, perhaps:

  • Peter Doocy may ask Red Jen at a WH Presser “Why the US doesn’t mimic Covid policies in India, Japan, Indonesia…”
  • Rand Paul and the Rinos can do the same at their worthless Senate hearings with FauXi. Let the little Hitler squirm why the US IS A TOTAL FAILURE dealing with Covid. While India, Japan, Indonesia are doing incredibly well.

I am with you concerning the test kits. I am buying any or have anyone test them on me. Is Gates the one manufacturing them?
Same with the mask that are made in China. Why would I buy them when they are the one producing stange strains of flu? More than ever American made or nothing.


Why would I buy them when they are the one producing strange strains of flu?

Exactly. It’s common sense.




I’ll mark the package “refused” and give back to the USPS.

This. I don’t want them in my house.


Just think of the cost and those who made the test kids make mega $$$$$.
Wonder how much they kick back ? All on tax payer expense and on our children and grandchildren.

Cuppa Covfefe

Test all of the fruit in your fuit bowl (including plastic), and post the results? 🙂

Sadie Slays

I like this idea—scientific experiment testing various non-human stuff, and see how many false positives you get.


It would probably be worthwhile to read up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor .

At the time, Ukraine provided about half the food for the Soviet Union. They thought themselves immune from famine because they produced so much food.

Currently, the United States produces about half of the food for the world. We think ourselves immune from famine because we can export so much around the world.

Gail has been consistently sounding the alarm about food supplies coming under the regulation and control of globalists.


“Currently, the United States produces about half of the food for the world. We think ourselves immune from famine because we can export so much around the world.”


I might think that, if our government was lawful, legitimate, and acted within it’s proper capacity to protect and defend the People.

In such a case, a nation which produces half of the world’s food, and whose government actually protected its People, would be immune from famine.

We don’t have a government remotely resembling any such thing.

We have the opposite.

We have a government which desires to exterminate us.

So, far from being immune from famine, food shortages (and worse) are being planned and enacted against us, right now, by that same criminal government.

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That is going to be a disaster if we come under control of globalists. We have to protect our farmers that they can stay in business and not have to sell the farms to corporations and Chinese.
How we can do it I am not sure but it has to come from Congress. We need to get the right people there and not idiots.


Correction… sell their farms to Bill Gates


That too after they break the farmer 🙁


“MUST-SEE VIDEO: J6er Micajah Jackson CONFRONTS AZ Man Luke Robinson on Video Who Was in US Capitol WITH A GUN and Was LATER REMOVED from FBI Most Wanted List”



Sidnick the Police officer, who died after a stroke, did not get medical help for 7 hours , even though the police were made aware that he might have had a stroke by some of the protest who attended to him.

EXCLUSIVE: First Hand Accounts Allege Officer Brian Sicknick Was Denied Critical Treatment By Police (substack.com)

EXCLUSIVE: First Hand Accounts Allege Officer Brian Sicknick Was Denied Critical Treatment By Police

One witness helped another offered life saving care

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Tayler Hansen

Jan 13



Two shocking eye-witness accounts corroborate something worse than we could have ever imagined. The Capitol Police appear to not only be responsible for the death of multiple protesters (which they lied about) but also for the death of a fellow officer, Brian Sicknick.


These two first-hand accounts offered on the Discussion Island Podcast were confirmed by the exclusive statements provided to Tayler Hansen’s Substack and are significant. Part of the significance is that neither one of these individuals spoke on the day of or have spoken since. How many other witnesses are there that can speak to the negligent conduct of those tasked with law and order?

After 7 hours of not receiving medical treatment Officer Brian Sicknick finally succumbed to his stroke and collapsed inside of the Capitol at approximately 10:00 PM. He died the following night after being placed on a ventilator, the family was not able to make it to the hospital in time to see him alive.


Mama Lama d’int raise no fool….

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An article on Zerohedge [Malone: ‘Mass Formation’ Deployed On You After Over 200 Years Of Study], includes a section about Prof. Mattias Desmet, where Prof. Desmet mentions his upcoming book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism.
While checking to see if the book was available for pre-order anywhere, I stumbled across this interesting article:


Ariane Bilheran. Ph.D

Episode 3. Delusional contagion and psychic alliances, leaving the delusion.

“Freedom is the most intimate thing, and it is from it that the whole edifice of the world of the Spirit rises.” — Hegel, Principles of the philosophy of the right, “Course on philosophy of the rights of 1831”.

“To see a way out of totalitarianism, we need to understand how minds have been imprisoned in paranoiac madness. This implies making the phenomenon of delusional contagion [1], intelligible, and to bring to light the unconscious psychic interactions that combine to promote ideology.

The paranoia is a contagious pathology, which erodes the traditional bonds [2] to submit the psyches to new bonds, those of the ideology. [3]

It is first necessary to understand (and I will not be able to go into the details of an overly complex psychological process here) that the psyche tends to defend itself against the violence of harassment, media propaganda and terror. 

For that, it builds ramparts which enable it to tolerate an unbearable reality, among which: denial, repression, banalization, idealization, cleavage, projection, radicalization, interpretation, isolation, discharge in the passage to the act, automation of the facts and the gestures, the emotional anesthesia, the disinvestment [4]… 

These “defense mechanisms” erode the individual’s lucidity. In particular, denial is an absolute impossibility of representing the violence of what is happening, to the point of making any argumentation or evidence of the facts impenetrable. 

I specify that this psychic process has nothing to do with intelligence, but concerns the psychologically “most fragile”, i.e., those who do not have sufficient internal resources to resist such an interpretative distortion of the world: the majority of human beings. 

For it takes extraordinary psychic strength to maintain healthy reasoning in a world that is going mad, where reference points are inverted, the truth is disguised as a lie, and the innocent people are designated as guilty, while the guilty people exercise indecent terror, in the name of the good of the people, and beautiful ideals such as “health for all” or “the protection of our elders”.

The delusional contagion operates from these ramparts, making the individual permeable to the ideology, and henceforth an unconditional follower of the totalitarian cult.”

[continued at title link above]

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While searching the term ‘disinvestment’ (footnote #4) and the author’s name (Adriane Bilheran), I found that Dr. Bilheran was interviewed by Reiner Fuellmich, on November 12, 2021.

Small world… or tightly linked / interconnected search engine results 😁

The Path Out of Trauma En/Fr – Reiner Fuellmich – Ariane Bilheran – Session 78 – Nov 12 2021


Check out this foto bomb:


Jurassic park.

Cuppa Covfefe

Golden Gate Park (in the foreground, The Presidio’s in the back), Then again, there’s not much difference anymore…


I sure hope so!


Democrats to Face Same Catastrophic Fate as Whigs
By Jordan Prescott



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Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.


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Deplorable Patriot

Tremendous loss. I was very sad to hear about this.

Deplorable Patriot

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Deplorable Patriot

Interesting backgrounder on Putin from ZeroHedge:

Former JFK Aide: What The West Gets Wrong About Putin

In 1999, Vladimir Putin suddenly sprang from bureaucratic obscurity to the office of Prime Minister. When, a few months later, Yeltsin unexpectedly resigned and Putin was voted in as President, governments around the world were taken by surprise yet again. How could this unknown figure have amassed national voter support with so little media attention?

I had first met Putin seven years before and was not surprised by his rapid domination of the new Russia. We were introduced by Yevgeny Primakov, widely known as “Russia’s Kissinger”, who I had met in Moscow multiple times during the Cold War years when I advised Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford. Primakov was a no-nonsense thinker and writer. He was also a special emissary for the Kremlin in conducting secret discussions with national leaders around the world.

When Yeltsin tasked his advisor Anatoly Sobchak with identifying and recruiting Russia’s best and brightest, Putin, then a local politician in his hometown of St Petersburg, was top of his list — so Primakov took Putin under his wing to tutor him in global power and security issues. Eventually, Primakov introduced Kissinger to Putin, and they became close. That both Primakov and Kissinger took time to coach Putin on geopolitics and geosecurity was a clear demonstration that they saw in him the characteristics of a powerful leader. It also showed Putin’s capacity for listening to lengthy lessons on geopolitics — as I was soon to learn.

In 1992, I received a call from a meeting organiser at the CSIS think tank inviting me to join a US-Russia St Petersburg Commission to be chaired by Kissinger and Sobchak. The purpose would be to help the new Russian leadership in opening channels of business and banking with the West. Most of the Western members would be CEOs of major US and European companies, as well as key officials of the new Russian government. I would attend as an expert. I was told that a “Mr Primakov” had personally asked if I could make time to participate. I could hardly refuse such a request, and I was intensely curious about the emerging Russian leadership, especially about Putin.

Arriving at the first meeting, I saw several people gathered around Kissinger and a man I was told was Putin. An official identified himself to me and said he had been asked by Primakov to introduce me to Putin. He interrupted the conversation with Kissinger to announce my arrival; Putin warmly responded that he was looking forward to chatting with me about how I see the world from inside Washington.

We spoke on several occasions between meetings, and he arranged to sit next to me at a dinner, accompanied by his interpreter. At that dinner, he asked me: “What is the single most important obstacle between your Western businessmen and my fellow Russians in starting up business connections?”

Off the top of my head, I responded: “The absence of legally defined property rights — without those there is no basis for resolving disputes.”

“Ah yes,” he said, “in your system a dispute between businesses is resolved by attorneys paid by the hour representing each side, sometimes taking the dispute to the courts which normally takes months and accumulation of hourly attorney fees.”

“In Russia,” he continued, “disputes are usually resolved by common sense. If a dispute is about very significant money or property, then the two sides would typically send representatives to a dinner. Everyone attending arriving would be armed. Facing the possibility of a bloody, fatal outcome both sides always find a mutually agreeable solution. Fear provides the catalyst for common sense.”

More at the link.


I’ have often mused, whatever happened to the good ole days when politicians would take their differences out back and allow the steadier hand eliminate the most traitorous amongst themselves in a public duel.. with flint lock pistols…  😵 
Maybe we can let the Lawyers begin the games?


A modern day version of Running Man would suffice,We could vote our villans and champions into a public game, may the strongest and most honorable win, creating
a new crop of American hero, founding father like figures the public and congress critters alike would respect and emulate .

I want to grow up and be like weasel chuck schumer or adam schiff said no one ever.

Oh that’s right.. we have to get that voting system thing fixed first.

Deplorable Patriot

Most of them wouldn’t make it out of the first quad.


Yesterday someone posted the Market Ticker: I…TOLD…. YOU…. SO!

Karl said:

  • There were people in both China and here in the US (along with presumably other nations) who were involved.  They all knew damn well what happened and all of them have lied for the last 2+ years about it. That almost-certainly includes both Trump and Biden, incidentally.
  • The governments involved all knew before the shots were released that they were dangerous and would become worthless. They knew that natural infection did not, in most cases, carry the same risk because the virus never gets into the bloodstream in other than severe and fatal cases but there is no way to avoid that risk with an injection.


I disagree with “….They all knew damn well what happened and all of them have lied for the last 2+ years about it. That almost-certainly includes both Trump and Biden, incidentally….”

That is WAY to simplistic. President Trump DID NOT KNOW and I doubt that Biden does either.

Karl is over looking several points.

Former President Obama Finally Buys the DC Home He’s Renting

The former first family have surprised many by purchasing the Washington, DC, house they’ve been leasing and living in since January, coughing up $8.1 million to call the place their own.

After vacating the White House, the Obamas had moved into the 6,441-square-foot, nine-bedroom, 8.5-bath mansion, located at 2446 Belmont Road NW in the tony neighborhood of Kalorama. The neighborhood has since become the place for the new political elite, with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump moving into a luxe rental a couple of blocks away, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson snapping up a $5.6 million Colonial Revival down the street.

The reason the Obamas decided to stick around DC in the first place was so their younger daughter, Sasha, then a freshman at posh Sidwell Friends, could finish up high school there. With only three years to go, renting seemed to make sense so that the Obamas could easily pick up and move once she’s done.

But apparently, there’s been a big change of heart…..


Most people know that a new president gets to name over 4,000 political appointees when they are elected. [Most have to be approved by the Senate]….

There is a much more sinister system in place that controls Washington D. C.’s bureaucracies through an actual, organized shadow government called the Deep State….

…The Washington D. C. Deep State is a group of 8,156 appointed mangers in 75 federal agencies that control the executive bureaucracy and tell new political appointees what they can and cannot do. Yes, that’s right, the Deep State is an official government program, well-organized, comprehensive, and “in charge.”


These the are the “Obama Holdouts” that still control the executive branch of government a full year after Trump has come to office…..

These people are NEVER NAMED by the way.


Given the CDC organization chart and the number of SES within the CDC,  Nancy Messonnier, [Rod Rosenstein‘s sister] M.D., Director, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, IS SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE. WIKI: “…She also served as the deputy director of NCIRD from 2014 to 2016 before becoming director of the center on April 4, 2016…”

November 9, 2016
The NPR station WABE-FM in Atlanta details a somber, depressing, tearful, binge eating reaction by CDC staff:

Employees at the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say the mood in their office is somber.

At the General Muir deli across the street from the CDC, a few employees talked to WABE, asking that their names not be used. One microbiologist said her colleagues were crying in the hallways.


July 15, 2019
CDC shuts down USAMRIID (U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases) on doing level 3 and 4 bio-research [H/T itswoot]

From Carlos

A Seattle infectious-disease expert named Dr. Helen Y. Chu tried to test people as soon as the first case was reported in her area, but the CDC prevented it.

Dr. Chu finally went ahead and tested anyway.

Washington state ordered her to stop. 

Rigidity of thought, bureaucratic red tape, and the pigheadedness of government employees prevented Dr. Chu from getting out in front of the epidemic.


And most recently: CDC Whistleblowers Tell Top Doctor Vaccine Injections Already Killed 50,000 Americans



I can not find the law that restricted President Trump to listening to the ‘experts’ during a Plandemic unfortunately, however some new information has come out.

IIRC, Dr Malone a while back mentioned he was working with Peter Navarro.

Dr McCullough
 Dr. Peter A. McCullough – Joe Rogan interview TRANSCRIPT

Discovered Covid WAS NOT actually being treated. I asked a question. I said, when are we going to start to treat the problem? People are getting sick out there. They are being hospitalized, some a dying, when are we going to actually TREAT the patient – before he has to be hospitalized? Too late for the hospitals, too late to treat people as obvious they’re dying in the hospital, we must start early and you could basically hear a pin drop on these calls. No one had an idea about treating COVID 19 at home.

There wasn’t any focus on sick patients. There were no treatment protocols that emerged. This is a mass casualty situation. It was viral replication, cytokine storm. Iinflammation, and then thrombosis. During my development work early in 2020 I got a call from the white house. Peter Navarro called me. I recommended using hydroxychloroquine. FDA seemed to be colluding to block hydroxychloroquine. And then simultaneously in Australia … made… hydroxychloroquine untouchable drug….

And the NEWEST: Dr Steven Hatfill was working with Peter Navarro.

Remember Peter went to the first Covid Task Force meeting. POTUS wanted a travel ban on China. The Task force ‘consensus’ was NO Travel ban, except it was NOT a consensus and when Peter spoke up for the ban, another guy found his balls and also spoke up for the ban. We got the ban and Peter got tossed off the Task Force. At that point he resorted to papering everyone with MEMOS so they would NOT BE ABLE TO CYA LATER.

Now Steve Bannon has revealed that Peter Navarro had a collaborator — Dr Steven Hatfill.


Start  MA_kswiss:30: Steve Bannon starts talking of Dr Hatfill. Dr Hatfill was on the firstst episode of War Room Pandemic. Steve brought Dr Hatfill in as consultant on Jan 20, 2020. A couple days later he went over to the White House to work with Peter Navarro.

@ 44 minutes:
Dr Hatfill: With respect to controlling the pandemic, we are actually back to square one. There was never any chance that MASS vaccination was going to be able to work because of the lag time between the time you have the vaccine ready and can administer it and the time the virus mutates. This was a non-starter. You have a very rapidly mutating virus and you are always going to be behind the curve.

The goal was outpatient treatment, early out patient treatment. And we had a drug – we now have several drugs to treat this. Covid-19 is a treatable condition.

Steve Bannon: Dr Peter Navarro, you worked with Dr Hatfill from day one.…. Hatfill and Navarro were the ones behind Warp Speed vaccine BUT it was never meant to be for MASS VACCINATION.


@ 4:00 minutes
Dr Hatfill: You asked me ‘Where are we now?
Where we are now is evidence now that masking doesn’t work. At MOST, maybe 10% protection.
Lockdowns don’t work.
Vaccinations are not working. Mass vaccination was never going to work with this virus.

In Anthony Fauci’s own words: “ Vaccine mandates, green cards, vaccine cards have no epidemiological value. It is just to make you go out and get the vaccine which doesn’t fully work. These should have been reserved as has been said, for the most vulnerable people in the community and certainly not the children. Who by and large are inherently resistant to serious viral infection. Plus the mandates are still un-Constitutional. They are experimental THERAPY in the United States.This hasn’t been address in the courts yet. So that’s where we are after two years.

And millions unemployed, the economy in tatters, and really nothing to show for it.

Steve Bannon brings up disinfo that the Dr from Baylor said on MSNBC. He said that Anti-Vax Right wing media had CAUSE 2,000 thousand deaths because it was PROVEN that getting vaxed caused less hospitalizations and deaths with omicron.

Dr Hatfill laughs.

Stev Bannon: Have you seen anything in your professional understanding that supports that as a scientific fact.

Dr Hatfill: All the data we have on omicron shows overall that this thing has so many mutations in it that it only provides a mild disease to begin with. Yes children have been hospitalized with it but the majority of these children have been very very ill with other things. I do not know where this guy came from, what planet, but he probably should pickup a medical journal and read one, one of these days.

Steve Bannon: The vaccines were never created for this and to go with mass vaccination was to really tempt fate here. We are playing with areas of science that we do not fully understand…..


Vaccines were to be ONE of several attacks on the CCP virus. Therapeutics, USED EARLY were to be the main focus. Those therapeutics WERE KNOWN by the SPRING OF 2020 but were BLOCKED BY OBAMA’S SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE.


I have trouble understanding all the in depth science stuff, so I’m not being picky, just wonder if I’ve misunderstood a lot.
“…because the virus never gets into the bloodstream in other than severe and fatal cases”
Is that really correct? 


Great info, Gail. Thank you.

So, who then could have changed the final result?

Which goes back to my original point a couple days ago. JMO – Trump may not have expected to win in 2016.

Soetoro remade the bureaucracy with 7K hirings/replacements of his choice, so could have PDT. He would have needed to kneecap Turtle and the RINO senators. Had he been prepared to do so in advance we would see new faces in the GOP in the Senate in those seats. We don’t. The truth is Turtle was able to seed the judiciary with more RINO’s and horribly slow the Cabinet selection appointee process.

If one goes by history and appearances, PDT did not know the extent of what he was up against and was outflanked from many angles, including this scamdemic. That’s one alternative. Another is that it could be that 17’s assertions will be proven true and that 45 was executing the largest sting in human history on this planet. We can expect PDT to emerge from the shadows at any moment, 2020 election overturned, and he go on to vanquish the enemies of MAGA. This is the one so many want to believe will happen.

A third alternative is also plausible. PDT and supporters saw that the corruption of the DS was too deep, entrenched and worldwide to take it on with a frontal assault. So the patriot elected officials, legal, judiciary, military, intelligence, etc. have been executing a more patient attack that began with his election and has continued during the ensuing election steal period into the next POTUS cycle. There are a lot of indications this later alternative may be the correct one. Rope-a-dope being the strategy that it is and all.

As our Steve always says, the 2020 election must be proven as fraudulent. That is true. The timing of when that happens may be the yet unresolved issue if this later alternative is what is happening. We want it overturned now, but we don’t have the authority to make it happen.

Will see.

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Gail Combs

I don’t expect that it will be overturned. And never did, once Jan 6 happened….”

I am not sure exactly what Steve Bannon and team are up to, but they are still working on De-certifying FIVE states and are making progress.

SMITHSONIAN: Four Times the Results of a Presidential Election Were Contested

…Gore went to court to have those ballots counted by hand to try to determine voter intent, as allowed by state law. Bush fought Gore’s request in court. While Gore won in the Florida State Supreme Court, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled at 10 p.m. on Dec. 12 that Congress had set a deadline of that date for states to choose electors, so there was no more time to count votes.

Gore conceded the next day…..

The above case was based on malfunctioning equipment and not FRAUD.

However if it can be proved that not ONLY was there MASSIVE FRAUD — “FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING” — But that the fraud was ‘helped along’ by a foreign country, The Supreme Court may have to revisit that decision.

 United States Supreme Court

* “Vitiates” in a legal context means negates, quashes, annuls, invalidates, revokes and abrogates

“Fraud vitiates everything.”  That enduring opinion was the crux of the landmark decision handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the above referenced case of the United States versus Throckmorton.

Ipso facto, the outcome of a POTUS election that is rife with one-sided fraud and criminality is rendered null and void.  Especially any result which saw the winner attain his or her victory through fraudulent means and/or criminal conduct is automatically canceled and invalid under the law.

The same U.S. Supreme Court ruling also determined that fraud vitiates contracts. An election is essentially a binding contract between the electorate and the elected. This indispensable social contract is irreparably broken through voter fraud as the public trust is profoundly violated.

The transparent Democrat-directed election theft of 2020 has rent asunder the sacred covenant between the elected and the electors. Hence, Joe Biden’s illicitly declared victory is illegitimate and therefore annulled forthwith.

The Biden-Harris ticket has also forfeited any right to a recount or a re-run of the election because of their highly organized and premeditated fraud perpetrated to outright steal it. Remember, fraud vitiates everything…..

So we will have to see how things shake out in this year.

Gail Combs

“…There are a lot of indications this later alternative may be the correct one. Rope-a-dope being the strategy that is is and all.

As our Steve always says, the 2020 election must be proven as fraudulent…..”

I think they realized there was a much bigger problem.

As Bill Ivey said to Podesta, the demon-Rats had conspired to keep the electorate IGNORANT of CIVICS and complacent. With the Tea Party and POTUS, the complacency was gone BUT PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO TURN THEIR DISCONTENT INTO POWER.

Stev Bannon’s job was to help educate MAGA on HOW to turn their numbers into REAL POWER. Steve has been careful in how he is feeding information to his audience. An audience that then take that information and uses it. For example, lighting a fire under Ted Cruz’s rear.


I believe it was under Obama Ebola episode that the congress changed something that CDC or some other disease experts needed to handle an outbreak because presidents are not experts. I believe Schumer also mentioned something about that.
Trump was never in charge because of the restriction that was imposed by congress on the President if there is an epidemic.
Sorry do not remember where I read it but I believe it was here.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Gail’s posted about that a few times…


To easy to blame Trump people forget. I forget things but somethings stick with me they make an impression on me. That one rule did because it seem to purposeful. Diverting responsibility and leave a President to the whim of government health officials.

Valerie Curren

I believe Political Moonshine has delved deeply into the “fraud construct” that was created during the aka BHO Usurpation to force a President to defer to other experts in a health emergency.


Thank you !!!!

Valerie Curren

You’re welcome. If you go to their website there is some type of Timeline post that has a lot of links to the original body of work on the topic, I believe. PM dives Very Deeply into minutiae AND provides at least some links to back up their reasoning process!


Thanks 🙂

Valerie Curren

YW 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Anonymous conservative is back, and offers this tidbit.

No kidding. /s

Deplorable Patriot

Anon Conservative again

A former Acting Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Office of Inspector General (DHS-OIG) pleaded guilty today to federal charges stemming from the theft of proprietary software and sensitive databases from the U.S. government. And a Twitter thread on it with background. It appears he had shell companies set up in all the toss-up states from the 2020 election, and was taken down right after Comey was fired. OIGs are to their agencies like Internal Affairs is to a Police Department. Given the entire US Intelligence community is over its head in Cabal fuckery, every OIG position will have to be compromised, and it will be protected by the corrupted agencies it turns a blind eye to. Him being taken down is unusual.

From the first link:

A former Acting Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Office of Inspector General (DHS-OIG) pleaded guilty today to federal charges stemming from the theft of proprietary software and sensitive databases from the U.S. government.

According to court documents, Charles K. Edwards, 61, of Sandy Spring, Maryland, executed a scheme to steal confidential and proprietary software from the government. Edwards worked for DHS-OIG from February 2008 until December 2013, including as Acting Inspector General. Prior to DHS-OIG, he worked at the U.S. Postal Service Office of Inspector General (USPS-OIG). At both agencies, Edwards had access to software systems, including one used for case management and other systems holding sensitive personal identifying information of employees.

After leaving DHS-OIG, Edwards founded Delta Business Solutions Inc., located in Maryland. From at least 2015 until 2017, he stole software from DHS-OIG, along with sensitive government databases containing personal identifying information of DHS and USPS employees, so that his company could develop a commercially-owned version of a case management system to be offered for sale to government agencies.

Deplorable Patriot

We wondered when we were going to start seeing this:

Life insurer refuses to cover vaccine death

Although vaccination is recognized as the cause of death by doctors and the insurance company, it has refused to pay out. The reason is because the side effects of the Corona jabs are known and published. They argue that the deceased took part in an experiment at his own risk. Covid-19 in itself is not classed as a “critical illness”.

According to the company, an experimental vaccination resulting in death is like suicide

The insurance company justified the refusal of payment to the family by stating that the use of experimental medication or treatments, including Corona injections, is expressly excluded from the insurance contract. The family’s subsequent lawsuit against the insurance company has been unsuccessful.

The court allegedly justified its ruling as follows: “The side effects of the experimental vaccine are published and the deceased could not claim to have known nothing about it when he voluntarily took the vaccine. There is no law or mandate in France that compelled him to be vaccinated. Hence his death is essentially suicide.” Since suicide is not covered by the policy from the outset, the insurance refuses to budge.

Scandalous verdict: taking a fatal risk is legally suicide

“The court recognizes the classification of the insurer who, in view of the announced side effects, including death, legally regards participation in the phase three experiment, whose proven harmlessness is not given, as voluntarily taking a fatal risk that is not covered by the contract and legally recognized as suicide. The family has appealed. However, the insurer’s defense is recognized as well-founded and contractually justified, as this publicly known fatal risk is legally considered suicide, since the customer has been notified and has agreed to voluntarily take the risk of death without being obliged or compelled to do so.”

This is in France, but who is to say it won’t happen here as well.


Seems this will work two ways. People will be less anxious to report a vax injury/death. But that can only happen if people realize the vax is bad for you and the government does not care.


If you die and attempt to collect life insurance, the company will collect cause of death information. It can’t be hidden and still collect the payout.


I’m pretty sure that when people die, they no longer do anything. Such as collect life insurance. Or try to.  😂 

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Lol! I meant the person COLLECTING!

Deplorable Patriot

Good American Thinker piece with some history added:

The Democrats Are Attempting A Coup By Lawfare

The only exception to this power written into our constitutional law came with the passage of the 14th Amendment on the heels of the Civil War after 1,500,000 Americans were killed or wounded and one of John Wilkes’s distant relatives assassinated a president. That limited exception is that people who have committed rebellion or insurrection against the U.S. may be excluded from running for office or excluded from office if they win an election.

The progressive left is going all out to paint conservatives as “domestic terrorists” and to claim that the January 6 riot—a riot of a few hours by people with no weapons and carried out virtually without violence (and that may have been part of an FBI entrapment scheme)—is tantamount to our Civil War of 1861-1865. This is so far beyond ludicrous it is stunning. Yet progressives fully embrace this tactic as their only hope to stop a popular vote that promises to be a wave election in 2022 and an Electoral College vote that might return Trump to power in 2024.

This is starting to get out also.

Deplorable Patriot

Well, that’s one way to do it.

Cuppa Covfefe

The return of the “Freedom Fry”…

Deplorable Patriot



Thank you again, Steve. Learning so much with these. I appreciate the work you put in.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy


Cuppa Covfefe

Can be very appealing, I’ll bet…

Valerie Curren

But the “period” (font, size, etc.) equals earth when viewed from what/where??? 😉

Cuppa Covfefe

Speaking of sentences, an entire college football team was enrolled in a remedial English class.

The professor asked, “What comes at the end of a sentence?”

As one, they answered, “The appeal”, with Mountaineer pride 😀


Q: How do you get a WVU graduate off of your doorstep?
A: Pay for the pizza 🙂

Valerie Curren

Nice. Is WVU your alma mater?

Cuppa Covfefe

Nope, but I have lots of fambly in West-By-God 🙂

(And yes, my family tree DOES branch 😀 )…..

Valerie Curren

Nice. Hope you saw the one someone shared the other day about a cop in AZ, I think, issuing an “illegal license plate” citation for WVa plates since ther was no WVa Yikes!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

Sure it wasn’t Ohio? 😉
(didn’t see it; I’ll look for it)…

Ohio state trooper pulls over a WV car going 1MPH over…

Officer asks, “Got any ID?”
West Virginian replies, “Bout what?” 😀

Valerie Curren


Valerie Curren

Or is this a known saying amongst WVU “rivals”. Kind of like how Ohio State has bumper stickers w/ directions to Michigan (U of M) saying “Go North until you smell it & West until you step in it”!

Cuppa Covfefe

Both of them were speedbumps to our (USC’s) football team 🙂

They also had great marching bands… I was briefly part of “The Spirit of Troy” but a schedule change made it impossible to stay on 🙁
Still had a lot of friends in it… and somewhere I have a copy of the Band (banned?) “Hymnal”…

Valerie Curren

Fun. Hubby did marching band in HS but (thankfully!) “graduated” to worship & Christian Rock band as a husband & father <3 🙂 <3


There is something in Mozart’s music that literally “changes” my whole being. It’s indescribable, and does not happen with Beethoven or any other composer. Consequently, I love Mozart!

Thanks for all you do, Steve!

Deplorable Patriot

Mozart is unmistakable. I hear one bar and can name it.

Deplorable Patriot

Unless it’s from one of the operas, I usually can’t name the piece, but the style is all him. The only one that sometimes crosses me up with him is Haydn, but he’s more Mozart lite than anything else.

Valerie Curren

My son has some phone app that recognizes music & can tell you what you’re listening to. He demonstrated it when out to eat & listening to the music the restaurant played in the background. I have no idea what the app is called.


That’s cool. I always know it’s Mozart, though not necessary the “name.”

Deplorable Patriot

Rossini? He wouldn’t have been my first choice for that title.

Valerie Curren

Missing Rachmaninov, who features prominently in Somewhere in Time, iirc. Filmed on Mackinac Island, fyi 🙂

Valerie Curren

I’ll take your word for it. I’m way too “white trash” to have the inside dope on Any of it/them 😉


We have a classical music station that broadcasts from USC. I have it on when kiddo is in the car. I wish i knew more about it but he actually remembers! I found a curriculum to teach him about several artists next year. I tried this year but we didn’t have enough time.
And we like everything, except a lot of opera(but we appreciate the talented singers).

Cuppa Covfefe

KUSC… they also livestream… (Fight on for U$C… those were the days 🙂 )…


‘SC also had a twin station that was more, erm, progressive, and a classmate of mine was on staff there… they didn’t do classical, so I got a TON of classical LPs, including some really interesting (and some horrid) modern and traditional classics (and even “go-for-Baroque” stuff 🙂 )…

(one of the albums was digially-processed heartbeat sounds… really odd… another was wind quintets by Canadian composers… wish I still had a record player to play that on, it was great)….


Ive been listening on n off to kusc since i was 18. It is funny it has been the only constant station i enjoy.


Lol. True.

Cuppa Covfefe

And it’s said that Vivaldi wrote the same Concerto 700 times…


There is something in Mozart’s music that literally “changes” my whole being. It’s indescribable, and does not happen with Beethoven or any other composer. 

Yes, same here.