American Farmers Tell China – We're with Trump!

You can only push Americans so far before they narrow their eyes, set their jaw, start to bristle, and fight back. Farmers are among the most stout and determined of all Americans. China picked the wrong fight, attacking American farmers to purposefully diminish Trump’s support…. hoping for a weaker and more accomodating President in the USA….. like our past Presidents. China made a grave miscalculation. The farmers are not moving. In fact, they’ve stiffened their resolve.
See this guy below, that’s my Daddy’s Daddy’s Daddy, Great Grandpa D. In his hands is IOWA Corn. He came from Belgium at age 3, and worked for John Deere for 54yrs. I have his 35yr pin and his 50yr pin on my charm bracelet. China wouldn’t have stood a chance with men like Grandpa D.
Grandpa D
Apparently, the farmers of today feel the same way. The Purdue Center for Commercial Agriculture has finished their latest survey of Farmer Sentiment. ( Link )
Keep in mind, this is a PURDUE survey, not some survey from an ivory tower think tank with a predetermined outcome. Purdue is the “Harvard” for pragmatic Mid-Westerners. Daddy went to Purdue (so it must be true….).
Farmer confidence in the AG economy is SOARING. You wouldn’t know it if you watched the MSM, but the numbers don’t lie. Overwhelmingly, farmers believe the trade skirmish with China will be worked out in a way which benefits the USA. In fact, in the month of July, even after devastating spring floods, the farmer expectations index went to a measure of 159, a two year high Link , which is 18 points HIGHER than the month of June Link
Why are they so positive? It’s President Donald Trump. They turned the vote in Iowa for him. They know he’s not backing down when it comes to China. Trump’s popularity is actually INCREASING with farmers.

A Farm Journal Pulse survey conducted last month showed that 79 percent of farmers now approve of the job the president is doing, up from 74 percent in the June survey. Fifty-three percent said they “strongly approve” of President Trump, up from 50 percent in June.

Yes it’s true, President Trump is using some of the tariff money to help out our farmers while China tries to toy with our economy. Yet, President Trump is not having it. He stands with the farmers 100%
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1158718548518297600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1158718548518297600&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Feconomy%2F2019%2F08%2F08%2Famerican-farmer-support-trump-rises-chinas-tactics%2F
Breitbart’s article ( Link ) takes us to the USDA Farm Income Report (  Link )   Once we parse through the bureaucratic “inflation adjusted” legalese, we learn cash “farm” income is up between 5% – 9.7% for this year, across all regions, and profits from farm activities are up about 10% (6.3 billion).
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Farmer are starting to get ahead again, finally. Again, from the USDA report linked above, ” Median farm household income is forecast to reach $78,987 in 2019. In nominal terms, that income level represents an increase of 3.6 percent from its 2018 level; in inflation-adjusted terms, it is a 1.9-percent increase. ” Also, equipment assets rose by about 30 billion, and total farm assets are up 44.6 billion to a grand total of 3.1 TRILLION dollars (which also includes about a 2% rise in the value of real estate = land value).
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Spring was tough this year in the heartland. We have a few problems with debt taken on by our farmers and cash available for working capital, but with the foul spring weather and China trade issues providing headwinds, it SHOULD be far worse. But it’s not.
President Trump allotted 12 Billion dollars to farmers last year to ease the tension and 16 billion this year. Everyone knows farmers would rather work than take a subsidy, but the situation is extraordinary – we’re fighting a 40yr old problem which was ignored by our past leaders.

 
In preparing this post, I looked through dozens and dozens of videos about President Trump/Farmers/China. I found a massive effort by CNBC, Bloomberg, CBS Today Show, and other MSMs to get a single farmer on camera to say they were abandoning President Trump and felt betrayed. If the MSM found one such farmer, the video was pushed.
And then I found this little nugget, which told me everything we need to know.
Here is an amazing video from Missouri, with only 1600 views. Title of the video is “Missouri farmers support Trump, despite tariffs”. You won’t believe it….. The video was made by an outfit called CGTN (China Global Television Network). Take a look, at the lower chyron, which says, “CGTN is funded in whole or in part by the Chinese government”.

 
It must really stink for China, to pay for propaganda, and still have the farmers supporting President Trump. Maybe China should have invested in MSNBC or CNN? They do a much better job disparaging President Trump, but I can’t imagine Grandpa D would have ever watched CNN. Nah…..
Yes, the Chinese have misjudged President Trump and his resolve. Former Presidents would have caved to China’s demands at the first sign of Tom Donahue in the WH driveway, or at the first 500 point drop on the DOW. Yet, our President is serious about straightening out the imbalance of trade with China, and just as the farmer’s believe, it WILL work out to benefit the USA.
The Chinese have also misjudged Trump Supporters as well. Take a look at this exchange below, where two men are arguing the merits of the 2nd Amendment. It speaks volumes.
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1159520326390173696
Nah, the Chinese don’t stand a chance against men like Grandpa D, nor Trump Supporters who are like-minded Americans, and they sure as hell should have NEVER picked a fight with America’s farmers….. or their great-granddaughters.
Here is MY FIGHT against Chinese products. 

We have to support OUR farmers!!!! 

 
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wolfmoon1776

AMEN!

kinthenorthwest

FB’d and tweeted it

kinthenorthwest

dang hate when that happens –Just as I hit print this was highlighted and disappeared
Thank you daughnworks247 great piece that I’m sharing.

rayzorbak

Daughn is the BEST!
And…. very Diverse.

kinthenorthwest

She is

michaelh

The Iowa farmers have been very difficult for politics for as long as I can remember. They are tough as nails!
But the subsidies issue is always a sticking point.
I don’t know all the history of Ag subsidies, but I know FDR deserves the lion’s share of the blame!
Nobody has been able to resolve the subsidy problem!
But Trump will!
And the farmers will support him 100% on it too!
It’s simple. There are too many international markets where there are BARRIERS to American corn!
You know, I know it – CHINA NEEDS AMERICAN CORN!!!
They aren’t the only ones around the world that block our corn products. But they are the biggest potential buyer, more than say India.
If a large aggregate international market opens up, it will drive the price of corn sky high!
So high, in fact, that they will make the subsidies look like a PENANCE in comparison!
But, the terms of the trade agreement will SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE that reciprocal trade be 0% subsidized!
HOWEVER they won’t care when they are able to $ELL for MUCH MORE than the product could be subsidized for!
It may be a few years away. China needs to get REAL HUNGRY to overcome their COMMUNIST PRIDE.
But I believe it will happen!

thinkthinkthink

Our #VSG listed John Deere in his tweet!
I love John Deere.
Their roots and their fruits look pretty good to me!

rayzorbak

Not only does John Deere make Great AG Machines….
They make GREAT Lawn Mowers too.
I know…. I have one 🙂

thinkthinkthink

And they are in India in a big (and I think good) way.

rayzorbak

All I know is I can mow 2 Acres in 1 hour and about 1/8 tank of gas. I Love this thing. Z915B Model.

cthulhu

If you think about their position, it is equivalent to saying, “we will not eat unless we can screw Americans.”
How is this supposed to be popular with anyone?

ozzytrumpster

Wait long enough and their people might eat them
https://images.app.goo.gl/xG3fjNyYKFdCPyqi7

smiley2

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The Veteran In A New Field
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The Return Of The Gleaner
o/c
1867
artist : Winslow Homer ~ American (1836-1910)
for the American farmer <3 🙂

Coldeadhands

Nice job Smiley. Love, love Winslow Homer!

Alison

Beautiful, Smiley 👏🇺🇸 Truly our Heartland in both fields and the men & women who worked them ❤️

nikkichico7

Thank you smiley, love these paintings …

Gail Combs

The Chinese forgot that we farmers FOUGHT Premise ID.
The Chinese forgot that we farmers FOUGHT NAIS.
The Chinese forgot that we farmers FOUGHT CODEX.
The Chinese forgot that we farmers FOUGHT the transfer of LIABILITY from the processing plants TO the small farmer.
The Chinese forgot that we farmers WITNESSED the take over of the US Pork industry that was eventually SOLD TO CHINA!
…..
Rest of the comment on that fight HERE
What is interesting is THAT FIGHT made farmers realize the MSM was DISINFORMATION so we were much more incline to NOT get taken in by the MSM brain washing about President Trump and instead WATCHED HIS ACTIONS. Also Hillary Clinton was behind the Food Safety Modernization Act for a DECADE before it became law and her husband sign WTO and NAFTA.
The amount of information that was passed among farmers during that fight was incredible. It is when I became 100% WOKE.

michaelh

Is it “woke” or “red-pilled”? 😉

Gail Combs

WOKE to the Globalists Plans. I already knew something was wrong. That was when I got the concrete evidence as to WHAT and WHO.

Gail Combs

This is some of the information that was passed around.
Given many farmers are college graduates from places like Purdue Univ, this really went over well:
USDA Handbook Advises Animal-ID Staff to Address Farmers “At The Sixth Grade Level”

A USDA “NAIS (National Animal Identification System) How-To Handbook,” most recently revised in February 2007, instructs all State and Federal NAIS staff aggressively to promote the supposedly “voluntary” premises ID program.  The goal of the campaign and the How-To Handbook is to “increase . . . premises registration results” and to promote during 2007 not only “continued growth in premises registration,” but also the “adoption of animal ID and tracing.”  (Handbook, p. 1; USDA’s NAIS Community Outreach bulletin, Feb. 2007, p. 1.)
The Handbook demands uniformity and strict adherence to four “key messages” that staff are to present to audiences of farmers when promoting NAIS.  As described by the USDA, these “key messages” “are organized into topic categories and supported with concise sentences.  They are designed for an audience reading at the sixth grade level.”  (Handbook, p. 41.)  … [and these Commies complain about President Trump’s language???]
After the original USDA mandatory NAIS plan, set forth in the Draft Strategic Plan and Draft Program Standards of April 2005, met with an unexpected level of strong opposition from farmers and animal owners, the USDA hired a public-relations firm to analyze the opposition and repackage NAIS with a more congenial-sounding message.  (Presentation by Dore Mobley, USDA/APHIS information officer, at the National Institute for Animal Agriculture’s “ID Expo,” August 2006.) 
USDA instructs Federal and State staff on how to manipulate media coverage of NAIS. 
The USDA makes clear to NAIS staff that spontaneous responses to the media are not acceptable.  As to Federal NAIS employees, we are told, “Federal staff are not authorized to handle media interviews.” Federal staff must refer all media matters to the USDA Legislative and Public Affairs Office (p. 16).   Staff are encouraged, however, to use such controlled channels as op-ed pieces, letters to the editor to correct “misinformation,” and canned interviews with experts; the USDA urges staff to rely on the “complete message control” available by communicating through a NAIS website (p. 17).
The USDA implies that the opposition consists of insignificant “groups and individuals” who are just somehow “mistaken”:  “The opposition’s information is largely based on misinformation and misunderstanding, but their zeal and emotion appeal is real” (p. 22).
The USDA’s Handbook repeatedly refers to NAIS opponents’ “misinformation,” but fails to specify any statement of the opponents that is other than completely accurate. Even the USDA’s most comprehensive public-relations campaign can’t sell a bad NAIS system to justly skeptical farmers.  The USDA’s Handbook, like its User Guide and its present NAIS approach generally, repeatedly speaks of needing to “correct” or adjust farmers’ attitudes or beliefs about NAIS.
For all that the USDA may think that farmers function “at the sixth grade level” (Handbook, p. 41), farmers seem to be just too smart to be lured by even the USDA’s most prettily baited NAIS hook.  In January 2007, the USDA conducted NAIS “focus groups” in Sacramento, California, Springfield, Missouri, and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.  (NAIS Community Outreach bulletin, March 2007, p. 1.)  The participants in the “focus groups” were all livestock producers.  The purpose of the “focus groups” was to gauge farmers’ responses to elements of the unified USDA NAIS public-relations campaign, particularly, the new NAIS promotional brochures and the USDA-imposed “key messages” for promoting NAIS.  These farmers thus received only the USDA pro-NAIS messages and no “opposition” information.  By the USDA’s own admission, these farmers, even after intensive exposure to the USDA’s well orchestrated campaign, would not accept premises registration.  The USDA’s “key findings” about the attitudes of the focus-group farmers after they had received the USDA’s (and only the USDA’s) side of the NAIS story are: 
“Respondents view NAIS as unwanted government intervention.” 

“Current NAIS messaging and brochures will not necessarily motivate producers to register premises.”So, after several years and multiple millions of dollars’ worth of pro-NAIS propaganda, farmers still want no part of NAIS.  Perhaps the USDA should begin to entertain the notion that farmers might not be so “misinformed” after all.  Maybe farmers are simply justifiably mistrustful of a government agency that insists on treating the very people it is supposed to serve like children.

(I am sorry that I can not give attribution.)

Plain Jane

The local farmers that I know, even those who didn’t graduate from Purdue, just HS, could run rings around most congress critters. Except the congress critters who are farmers.

Gail Combs

This is from the FDA website but got wiped rather fast.
International Harmonization
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~comm/int-laws.html

The harmonization of laws, regulations and standards between and among trading partners requires intense, complex, time-consuming negotiations by CFSAN officials. Harmonization must simultaneously facilitate international trade and promote mutual understanding, while protecting national interests and establish a basis to resolve food issues on sound scientific evidence in an objective atmosphere. Failure to reach a consistent, harmonized set of laws, regulations and standards within the freetrade agreements and the World Trade Organization Agreements can result in considerable economic repercussions.
Participation in Codex Alimentarius
Cosmetics International Activities
International Organizations and Standard-Setting Bodies
International Office of Epizootics
International Plant Protection Convention
World Health Organization
Food and Agricultural Organization
Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA)
Joint Meeting on Pesticide Residues
Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Microbiological Risk Assessments
Pan American Health Organization
Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development

Gail Combs

http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/index.php/MadCow/PublicCitizenReleasesResultsOfFreedomOfInformationActFOIARequestAboutMadCow

The U.S. Department of Agriculture says the Portland-based company recalled the food because it may be “adulterated” due to inadequate inspection, verification and documentation of processing activities.
Stan Painter, chairman of the USDA Meat Inspectors Union fears legal action and serious public disfavor for his 600,000 member inspection confederation. All of the major US recalls that have forced business truncation contracted with USDA to assure safe food processing. As more and more food processing under USDA enforcement fails the basic safety inspection standards, Painter has not issued a statement concerning the increased appearance of negligence.
After 94 recalls of USDA inspected product in just over a year the once trusted USDA Union Meat Inspection process has proven not to be a safety net for business owners, but a historical process required by federal law that is riddled with flawed procedures.
Ninety-four meat recalls just this year and the government is cracking down on the little guy?

Senate Hearings
http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate/pdf/109hrg/99848.pdf
Hearing where Stan Painter is blown off
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/PDF/RBI_Transcripts_101006.pdf
“Evidence of Weak Meat Inspection Program Found in Nearly a Thousand Violations of
Mad Cow Rules at Slaughter Plants,”
Public Citizen, August 18, 2005,
http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=2024
Shielding the Giant: USDA’s ‘Don’t Look, Don’t Know’ Policy
http://www.whistleblower.org/sites/default/files/Shielding_the_Giant_Final_PDF.pdf
Short Excerpt:

Testimony Of Stanley Painter, Chairman
National Joint Council of Food Inspection Local Unions,
American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO
Before
Domestic Policy Subcommittee
House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
Good afternoon Chairman Kucinich, Ranking Member Issa and members of the subcommittee.
My name is Stan Painter and I am the chairman of the National Joint Council of Food Inspection…..
….. We are trained to enforce the various laws and regulations under FSIS jurisdiction. When we see a violation, we are trained to document and write non-compliance reports. In practice, however, that does not always occur. As I mentioned earlier in my testimony, we have had a problem with the way HACCP was implemented at FSIS:
in the late 1990’s and continues to be enforced. HACCP was adopted in response to the Jack-in-the-Box E.coli 0157:H7 outbreak in 1993. While HACCP was billed as an attempt to introduce science into meat and poultry inspection system, it also shifted the responsibility for food safety over to the companies.
While I agree that companies must be responsible for the products they put into commerce, it frustrates me and many of my members when we are told by our supervisors to “let the system work” when we see violations of FSIS regulations and we are instructed not to write non-compliance reports in order to give companies the chance to fix the problems on their own. Sometimes even if we write non-compliance reports, some of the larger companies use their political muscle to get those overturned at the agency level or by going to their congressional delegation to get the inspection staff to back off. So, the agency’s databases may not contain accurate information about the compliance history of meat and poultry plants because of pressure being applied not to write them up for violations.
Employee Intimidation
ome of my members have been intimidated by agency management in the past when they came forward and tried to enforce agency regulations and policies. I will give you a personal example. In response to the December 23, 2003 discovery of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in a cow in Washington State, FSIS issued a series of interim final rules in January 2004 to enhance the safety of the beef supply. Among these new regulations included a ban on meat from downed animals from entering the food supply and the removal of specified risk materials (SRMs) from slaughtered cattle over the age of 30 months before the meat from these animals could be processed and enter into commerce. In December 2004, I began to receive reports that the new SRM regulations were not being uniformly enforced. I wrote a letter to the Assistant FSIS Administrator for Field Operations at the time conveying to him what I had heard.
On December 23, 2004, I was paid a visit at my home in Alabama by an FSIS official who was dispatched from the Atlanta regional office to convince me to drop the issue. I told him that I would not. Then, the agency summoned me to come here to Washington, DC where agency officials subjected me to several hours of interrogation including wanting me to identify which of my members were blowing the whistle on the SRM removal violations. I refused to do so.
I was then placed on disciplinary investigation status. The agency even contacted the USDA Office of Inspector General to explore criminal charges being filed against me. Those charges were never filed. Because all of this was occurring during the time that USDA was trying to re- open beef trade with Japan, I found out that the disciplinary investigation and the possible criminal investigation into my allegations were the subject of a posting on the website of the U.S. Embassy in Japan. Both my union AFGE and the consumer group Public Citizen filed separate Freedom of Information Act requests in December 2004 for any non-compliance records in the FSIS data base that would support my allegations.
It was not until August 2005 that over 1000 non-compliance reports – weighing some 16 pounds — were turned over to both AFGE and Public Citizen that proved that what my members were telling me was correct – that some beef slaughter facilities were not complying with the SRM removal regulations. 1 Coincidentally, on the same day that those records were released, I received written notification from the agency that they were dropping their disciplinary investigation into my actions – some eight months after their “investigation” began
…. While I was completely exonerated in this incident, it has caused a chilling effect on others within my bargaining unit to come forward and stand up when agency management is wrong…..

Coldeadhands

Congressional obfuscation & agency strong-arming. Now there’s a surprise! Disgusting

michaelh

Trump is right – cars, aircraft, farm equipment… just to make it over-complicated. Engineering simplicity is lost.
IIRC in WWII the French had amazing tanks but were vastly over-complicated, made them totally impractical for field repairs against the Germans. But the American tanks were built using the same designs and parts as automobiles and diesel equipment, so any farm boy or factory worker could repair them in field. It was a significant advantage.
Right now the military touts our “digital native” advantage. Computing does add a lot of capability but they’re only as good as the mechanical function they are supporting.
Trump is trying to push us back to the concept of field repairable equipment away from the trained technician model. Was it China that pushed that on us? Or companies trying to escape liability? Or just way to rake in support contracts? Or just a new generation of engineers without field experience designing with faulty assumptions? Like assuming that there would always be plentiful replacement “parts” – you know, like “ENGINE”?

A Fortiori

This was also a key issue in the Pacific, where we were able to repair our ships and keep them in the fight whereas the Japanese were not.
I know a little about the automobile component of this; I presume farm equipment is not dissimilar. When the machines are manufactured, the computer boards necessary to keep them operational along with the boards necessary to conduct both warranty and repair work are created and the manufacturing line for the boards is dismantled. That means the entire universe of parts available over the entire life of the machine is fixed. And while the skills necessary to repair these boards are relatively modest, without schematics of how the boards are supposed to operate diagnosing problems and testing solutions becomes impossible for the machine owner. This arrangement allows the producer of the machines to calculate precisely the useful life of the machines, and to use something as little as the useful life of the $.35 capacitors used to make the boards function as the mechanism to ensure the machines fail as and when expected.

Gail Combs

And that is why my TRUCKS and TRACTORS are PRE -1995!!!
The new John Deere tractor CAN NOT be worked on by the farmer. So you have to drag the damn thing back to the dealer.
I just pent the morning roping goats, tossing them into a trailer and draging them to the livestock auction. At least the auction is set-up to handle truck and trailers although it was very crowded. Often times the dealers ARE NOT set-up for much in the way of trailer traffic and getting in and out is a real horror show especially when you have city folk parking where ever the heck they please…. Like in the way of where you can turn around without backing into traffick.

rayzorbak

The French had “Tanks”?
I do know that there “used” weapons are among the best buys going….
Never Fired and only dropped Once!

A Fortiori

The absolutism of the EnviroNazis is a major reason machines using internal combustion engines have become so complex, expensive and impossible to repair. Or said another way, the fact that we can not acquire simple machines we can maintain ourselves is by design.
Carburetors were destroyed not because they could not be made to run as clean as fuel injection, but because they could not be made clean when the engine is cold. Moreover, carburetors could not be made to cease to function when poorly maintained, whereas with computer controlled fuel injection, we can be punished for failing to properly maintain our machines.
Consumers were mollified into accepting these things by concurrent improvements in safety (which were massive and saved thousands of lives), slightly better fuel economy, and the introduction of various flashy and distracting electronic devices. Farmers too got air conditioned cabs and GPS guided combines, but because their incomes did not rise as rapidly as did equipment costs, were not as easily mollified.

kalbokalbs

Perhaps another miscalculation by the Chinese, me thinks.
– Over the past two half years the Chinese have verbally stated they’d buy Billions of dollars of soy beans…
– Some of those sales have gone through, I am guessing.
– HOWEVER, many of those sales have been a hoax…NO purchase.
Farmers I am rather sure made decisions after hearing about Chinese “agreeing” to buy massive amounts of soy beans, grain…changed crop planting strategy, bought incredibly expensive farm equipment, other large financial obligations…
Guessing bigly, this IS NOW even more personal to the farmers.
Bad enough China and USG have screwed farmers over the years / decades. NOW China has directly (granted via President Trump & his negotiating team) lied above massive voilume sales in very near term. Oh no, thet is PERSONAL and not to be cast aside.
And of course, Fetinol. (Pardon another misspelling) Chinese made fetinol is killing thousands, if not tens of thousands of Americans every year.
The Chinese total dishonesty and deceit is on full display for every American to see and every American to take aim at to take down.
ALSO fully exposes the hypocrisy of Wall Street and billionares like Kock brothers, Steyer…100% working against the interests of America. For good measure toss in the MCM, talking heads all clamoring about tariffs bad for American consumers. ALL pure BS.

kinthenorthwest

Wow—Another hit at the Democrats for 2020–So far their campaign is Race & helping Illegals.

Gail Combs

The DemonRats alignment and sell out to COMMUNIST China is where the DemonRats DO NOT WANT TO GO PERIOD!!! That is why it was MUH! Russia.

kinthenorthwest

Even if Democrats took 190 degree turn they would still not be working for America

MAGA Mom

This is a fantastic article and I used many of the linked articles repeatedly today to combat the leftist talking points/narrative about farmers/tariffs/President Trump. Thank you so much for arming me for political “battle”! 🙂

scott467

“Maybe China should have invested in MSNBC or CNN? ”
_________________
What makes you think they HAVEN’T?
🙂

scott467

Sycho Sid
‏ @SidJustice1992
Replying to @RaheemKassam
How the fuck is 2A going to overthrow a government armed with grenades, helicopters, rockets, automatics, not to mention intelligence??
Explain that to me.”
_____________
No problem.
1) MOST of the U.S. military will NOT attack their own countrymen, their own neighbors and their own towns
2) MOST of the Sheriffs and MOST of the regular Police officers won’t either.
3) MOST of the military is deployed, and they’re not on vacation, they are doing important things, things which they couldn’t do if they were called back home to fight Americans, which most of them wouldn’t do, anyway
4) HOW are those helicopters, rockets, etc. going to be MANUFACTURED and MAINTAINED if the American People are being attacked by our own government?
5) HOW many helicopters does it take to subdue 300 million Americans? Here’s the answer, stupid: MORE than the government will EVER have. Same answer for tanks.
6) Americans are EVERYWHERE in America, and the rogue government agents CAN’T be. So We the People would have them outnumbered just about EVERYWHERE besides military bases.
7) It may not seem like much, but over half a BILLION firearms in the hands of the American People is more than enough to make life IMPOSSIBLE for any traitors in our military who would attack the American People.
But WITHOUT those guns, all we would have is STICKS and ANGRY WORDS to confront them with, you dumbass.
And while those are probably both very scary to a DUMBASS like you, it’s not very threatening to our military.
But you know what is?
Sniper fire, and small arms fire, coming from every direction, day and night, every time they step outside the safety of their base into OUR backyard, if they EVER decide to attack the American People.
You don’t think small arms are effective, Sid?
Then why is Afghanistan still fighting, DECADES after the Soviet Union and then the United States went to war with them, with the best “grenades, helicopters, rockets, automatics, not to mention intelligence??” in the world?
Explain that to me, Sid.

Gail Combs

Also WHO is going to FEED those soldiers when the FARMERS and TRUCKERS are fighting against the Treasonous government???
The Government has anti-hoarding (of food) laws and CONFISCATION of farm and farm labor laws but first you have to get TO THOSE FARMS.

rayzorbak

Sid Can’t…..
He is even to Dumb to spell his own name correctly:
He left out the T U and P….
STUPID