Dear KAG: 20200825 Open Thread

Cover image: 1899, Lydia Finnell, Show Quilt, Collection of the Smithsonian Institution

The whole quilt:

My fingers hurt just looking at all that stitching.

As of this writing, this is the latest from the President’s Own Marine Band. I think y’all will like it.

And a reminder to take the pledge:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

And now for the nitty gritty of the Q Tree 5 minute, stand up, Tuesday morning meeting version of the Daily Thread.

Ahem.

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From the Gospel According to St. Matthew, Chapter 23:

And whosoever shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth in it: [22] And he that sweareth by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. [23] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you tithe mint, and anise, and cummin, and have left the weightier things of the law; judgment, and mercy, and faith. These things you ought to have done, and not to leave those undone. [24] Blind guides, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel. [25] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.

[26] Thou blind Pharisee, first make clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside may become clean. [27] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you are like to whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear to men beautiful, but within are full of dead men’s bones, and of all filthiness. [28] So you also outwardly indeed appear to men just; but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. [29] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; that build the sepulchres of the prophets, and adorn the monuments of the just, [30] And say: If we had been in the days of our Fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

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phoenixrising37

Gorgeous quilt DPat…
thank you for all the time and effort you put into your Openings… we appreciate you!

kalbokalbs

Yes, DP your efforts are always appreciated.
President’s Own, Stars and Stripes Forever, wonderful!
While I didn’t hear many of the RNC speakers live, saw seven or eight videos. Each video stand alone, inspiring. Ringing endorsement for America and President Trump. And, an indictment of the D-Rats and socialism.

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll have to look them up.
Frankly, I like a little variety in the music. But, that’s their latest.

Linda

That is a beautiful quilt. My mother was in a quilting group for many years, so I’ve seen thousands of wonderful quilts at various shows and have a couple of hers on my beds.

Deplorable Patriot

It is rather stunning.
I used to quilt and then switched back to crochet. I just didn’t have the time or a place to put a frame to do it right.

Teagan

Many of my maternal family were avid quilters…I still have the entirely hand-stitched quilt my grandmother made (one for each of her 15 grandchildren, made from clothing scraps and practical rather than artistic). I resisted getting into it because I know it becomes an addictive passion and your house is easily taken over with stacks of fabrics, frames. Etc.
The one you featured, DP, is so far beyond and truly a work of an artist, as well as a craftsman. I understand, when judging, one of the primary factors in hand quilting is the number of stitches per inch.
I once had a male 6th grade teacher teaching some adult classes for me at a YWCA…quilting and knitting! Every year when school started he set up a large quilting frame in the back of his classroom and his class had many lessons using quilting. Once it got underway, when a student finished their handout work at their desk they could go back and quietly work on the quilt throughout the school year. At the end, they usually went to a nursing home and presented it to a resident…another life lesson. This was in the early 70’s…how education has changed!
Two little tidbits about his…First, unlike you might think the teacher was very masculine and was married with his own family…and, second…this was in Portland, Oregon!

phoenixrising37

They’re such treasures aren’t they Linda … 😉

pgroup

The leaves are starting to fall off my maples and alders. Summer is closing in the Puget Sound.

ForGodandCountry

LOL
We won’t see highs below 90 until late Oct. at the earliest.

ForGodandCountry

….down in the Lone Star, that is.

jamcooker

I miss the good home grown apricots and peaches my grandmother grew in her back yard in west Texas. I can’t abide most of the peaches and all the apricots available here, they’ve all been picked green, and are as hard as rocks with little to no flavor.

Gail Combs

That is FOR SURE!!
I always look forward to the couple of weeks in summer that the roadside vendors have fresh peaches from Georgia then South Carolina and finally from North Carolina. They are almost as good as the peaches from our own tree when we owned part of a very old orchard.

NurseSusy

The best peaches I have ever had were Cadilliac (the Blake) peaches sold at the Tacoma Boys produce stand in Washington state. These peaches were softball sized, free stone, juicy, & never mealy.

Deplorable Patriot

It was 96 degrees here yesterday, and the nights this week aren’t going to dip low. We’re hoping for this week’s tomatoes at the farmer’s markets to be the best in quite a while.

jamcooker

Mine aren’t falling off yet, and it looks like I’m going to get some tomatoes! Maybe not very many to ripen, but we’ll have green tomatoes, and will make relish, green tomato salsa or pickles. It’s been a terrible year for tomatoes, but we tried some new to us varieties, and are having good luck with the Moskovich, even accounting for not putting them out until July!

grandmaintexas

Try Lemon Boys next year. Ripen into a sweetness that blew us away. You get large, medium, and little tomatoes. Still going in our 95 degree heat.

jamcooker

I would love to, but we need early, and I mean early tomatoes! Some of the russian varieties have been fairly successful for us. The best yellow I’ve had luck with is Taxi, and I had to baby it a little one year.

cthulhu

We’ve historically had very good luck with taxis — except for the last 3 years, when we had a running battle with rats raiding our tomato patch. This year (hopefully the last on this property), the only tomatoes we have are in pots next to the driveway, outside our fence — and so far we’ve got two that fully ripened without being nibbled — which is two more than we got the previous 2 years.

jamcooker

LOL! That’s comparable to our battle with bunnies! Bunnies are cute, but I have no desire to harbor them… (sorry Carl)

jamcooker

Sometimes it is challenging to grow the heat loving plants and fruits out here, but cool weather crops are usually pretty reliable, root veggies and almost all the brassica family. I tried the no dig method in one spot and planted mostly summer squash there, and finally had squash show up a couple of weeks ago when the weather warmed up enough. Thank you for that suggestion, it was a good solution for that particular spot!

grandmaintexas

I have the opposite problem! My broccoli bolted immediately this year, no heads. I planted too late. Sometimes Texas goes from winter to summer in a week, it seema.

NurseSusy

I am going to try this for hot weather and the garden next year. Cool the garden with regular fans to circulate the air and cool it off. I saw this idea on Martha Stewart’s new HGTV show. Also it blows off the bugs and keeps them from landing. I was trying to think of an excuse to buy one of those huge commercial fans I saw at Sam’s Club. 🙂

grandmaintexas

Even in Texas heat? I was thinking if shade tunnels…but a fan is nice. 😁

gil00

Sounds nice and cool.

cthulhu

Further info from the Smithsonian —
“Lydia Pearl Finnell may have made this parlor throw for her trousseau. It exemplifies the fancy needlework techniques popular in the late 19th century. Motifs and designs that appear on the throw can be compared with patterns that appear in needlework manuals of the period. The patterns consisted of simple outline drawings, which allowed the user to enhance them to the best of their abilities. Lydia’s talents and schooling are reflected in her elaborate and well-executed interpretations. Highly decorated items, such as this, were often placed in the parlor to display the maker’s needlework skills.
Eighty-two patches of fabric make up this extensively adorned parlor throw. The central irregular patches are framed by an eight-pointed star made of 2-3/8″ strips of black silk pile, giving it the name “Star Quilt.” Each patch is decorated with flora (e.g., pansies, sumac, thistle, etc.) or fauna (e.g., frogs, chicks, swans, owls, etc.) motifs. Ruching, and satin, French knot, plush and outline embroidery stitches are among those techniques used to embellish the parlor throw. The competent use of the plush stitch is evident on many of the motifs. This stitch produces loops that are later cut, combed, and sculpted with scissors to give a three dimensional effect to each motif. The lining is red wool embroidered with small daisy motifs. A braid attached to the 2-7/8” border of black silk pile completes the quilt.
Lydia Pearl Finnell was born March 3, 1867, to William and Sarah Irvine Finnell in Harrodsburg, Kentucky. At the age of three, she was sent to live with her Aunt Lize (Eliza Finnell Terhune) and Uncle Boley (William Terhune). They taught her the social graces as well as housekeeping skills, cooking, animal husbandry, and some rudimentary doctoring skills. At the age of 14 or 15 she attended Daughters College in Harrodsburg, where she received an excellent education for the time. This included plain and fancy needlework and the fine arts of canvas and china painting.
Lydia married Bushrod Allin (1871-1942) of Harrodsburg on November 8, 1899. Bushrod and Lydia did not have any children, but raised Mary Forsythe Finnell, the daughter of Lydia’s brother Charles Handy Finnell. Lydia died March 31, 1949 and is buried in the Spring Hill Cemetery, Harrodsburg, Kentucky. Lydia’s “Star Quilt” is a unique example of extraordinary design and needlework skills, truly a “star” in the Collection.”

cthulhu

By comparison, modern pieced quilts can get into large numbers of pieces — e.g. http://www.quiltworx.com/patterns/storybook-pastures/ — which blows well past 82 patches. Or they can use tremendous amounts of applique, embroidery, or other techniques — all of which is aided by surprisingly sophisticated technology. Complex quilts frequently use CAD techniques to design, and pipelined cutting techniques (including “bargello” and “stack & whack”). Embroidery is frequently done on computerized machines, sometimes with laser indicators — http://www.husqvarnaviking.com/en-US/Machines/DESIGNER-EPIC-2 . And a surprising number of quilt shops or suppliers use lasercutters for applique. Quilting, itself, is frequently done on “longarm” rigs — https://www.maryjanesandgaloshes.com/bernina-q24-review/ .
Of course, that ain’t Amish.
(BTW, I endorse none of these methods, machines, or websites — I just picked things that quickly gave me pictures.)

jamcooker

There’s quite a business in quilting, and some of those machines are pretty spendy as well as needing a lot of space. Some quilters are quite talented, and it’s like they are painting with fabric.

patfrederick

my mother-in -law (God rest her soul) taught me to hand quilt. I was never an expert as she was–her stitches were tiny and EVEN…mine? i could get the even part but not the tiny part. but i do enjoy it.
when we moved to this house i didn’t have the room for the quilting frame for large quilts, so I would have her church ladies group quilt those for me.
After she passed, the quilting group dwindled–no younger church members wanted to learn…sigh.
around here there’s a quilt shop in NY that rents time on their long arm quilter but it’s just not the same…

Deplorable Patriot

I have some hand pieced blocks that have been sitting for a long time. Oh, and a Trip Around the World in Amish solids. That thing took forever.

patfrederick

I bet it’s gorgeous!

jamcooker

My grandmother showed me how to quilt one summer when I was in my early teens when visiting us. It wasn’t fancy quilting, but it covered all the bases. The top, the batting, and the bottom; then she had my dad provide a couple of 8′ 2″X2″s, which we used to roll the quilt on after it was sandwiched together, and set those on the backs of 2 straight backed kitchen chairs. She set it up by the edge of a bed and we sat on the bed and quilted it with a feather pattern, not fine stitching but just a plain running stitch good enough to get the job done.

patfrederick

do you still quilt?

jamcooker

The only quilting I’m doing now is to make 2 quilts from quilt tops my grandmother had made. I had to put them aside for a while because of a hand injury, and then …. well life. I’ve got one rolled up, and partially quilted.

patfrederick

i still quilt too…mostly table runners and lap quilts tho.

ForGodandCountry
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – that is AWESOME!!!
Sundance did a piece on this:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/24/brilliant-agitprop-we-will-mock-you/
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Here is another one from earlier:

ForGodandCountry

Commie with a trust fund
dumb dumb
😂😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

These folks are exceptionally witty yet sacrifice no edge of social commentary.

cthulhu

Based on 1:29, I think they’re in Atlanta — Emory Healthcare just took over part of the Northlake Mall. They may be associated with https://www.circusartsinstitute.com/ .

singularzoe

Well, fgac, that was fun.

patfrederick

OMG I AM ROARING (and dancing a little in my seat)
THAT WAS BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BlackKnightRides

ForGodandCountry
BlackKnightRides

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent!

cthulhu

….and that’s from Day 1.

jamcooker

WOW! That is an impressive quilt! All the embroidery – so finely executed! It took a long time and a lot of patience to make, and it was part of her dowry. An awesome find!

NurseSusy

The things people can make when no iPhone, TV, movies, streaming videos.

michaelh

Via LIFELOG CV update:
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Coronavirus Update 8/25/2020 – Melatonin
BTHO COVID-19
Daily cases nationwide are trending down slowly. The deaths are still steady.. In Texas cases are now slowly coming down. We have gone from around 8,000 per day to in the 5,000’s now. Also deaths are now going down to. The mortality rate is steady now at 1.9%.
If you want to see your local numbers look at the link below.
*https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
For the newbies we have been predicting an overall fatality rate somewhere in the 0.3 to 0.7 range when we finally correct the denominator.
More evidence on the benefits of Melatonin
Here is a paper on the use of melatonin in prevention of severe Covid-19. In a healthy macrophage, pyruvate, a glucose metabolite, enters the mitochondria where it is enzymatically converted to acetyl-coenzyme A by the enzyme pyruvate dehydrogenase complex (PDC). Acetyl-coenzyme A feeds the tricarboxylic acid cycle (TCA) and supports oxidative phosphorylation. Additionally, acetyl-coenzyme A is an essential substrate for the rate limiting enzyme in melatonin production, arylalkylamine N-acetyltransferase (AANAT). This allows for melatonin to be regularly produced in healthy macrophages; melatonin functions intracellularly and is released into the cellular microenvironment, but not into the blood.
In COVID-19-activated mitochondria, via HIF-1α, mTOR, etc., the enzyme pyruvate dehydrogenase kinase (PDK) is strongly upregulated and inhibits PDC (red X). Thus, acetyl-coenzyme A is not synthesized and mitochondrial OXPHOS falters with ATP synthesis occurring in the cytosol via aerobic glycolysis (Warburg effect). Similarly, mitochondrial melatonin production is shut down so the cell is deprived of an essential antioxidant, anti-inflammatory agent and of an immune-enhancer so the elevated synthesis of proinflammatory cytokines goes uncontested and the cytokine storm is a result.
Sounds complicated but what does it really mean. It means that in Covid-19 the cytokine storm inhibits an enzyme (PDK) needed for melatonin production. Thus you have significant decreases in melatonin concentration in cells. Melatonin’s potent antiinflammatory and potent antioxidant activities are needed to help prevent the cytokine storm. Also having plenty of melatonin helps neutralize free radicals and prevent cellular damage through oxidation. It also allows your cells to make it’s natural melatonin for more protection of cellular integrity.
If you are still confused, melatonin is good and may help protect you from severe Covid-19.
*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7211589/
Quercetin from 250mg up to 1g twice per day Remember this is a Zinc ionophore.
Vitamin D3 Take this for sure if you are deficient and I now recommend taking it as long as your values are not too high. Remember too much vitamin D can cause issues. However, if you are diagnosed with Covid-19 take 50,000IU immediately as this appears to have significant benefits.
Sleep greater than 8 hours per night
CoQ10 100-300mg per day: a potent antioxidant that potentially helps balance oxidative stress, increase vasodilation, prevent clot formation and decrease vasoconstriction.
Zinc any amount is probably good but take what you can tolerate without making you feel bad up to 40mg. You do not want to be Zinc deficient as it is how many drugs like HCQ work.
Melatonin 0.1mg to 10mg at night. Take what you can tolerate and what helps you sleep without making you feel drugged or tired in the morning. If you are diabetic watch your sugars.
N-acetylcysteine (NAC) – 600mg twice per day shown to decrease severity of influenza, improve lung functions in COPD, antioxidant properties, potentially helps prevent clotting and with mental disorders. Caution for asthmatics as there is potential for bronchospasm but this is rare.
Vitamin C 250mg to 500mg twice per day. Effects debatable in oral form but IV did help in China. But is proven to strengthen immune system
Green Tea either drink some or 1 pill per day alternate zinc ionophore if you don’t have or don’t take Quercetin
Famotidine 10-20mg twice per day potentially inhibits viral replication and helps with heartburn
As always the information and understanding of COVID-19 is changing rapidly. This information is for education purposes only and you should never make changes to your health without consulting your personal physician. Make a virtual appointment with your physician and discuss your health and the best possible treatment plan for you. It is also important to reiterate that there are no clinically evidence-based integrative prevention or treatment strategies for COVID-19 infection.
Let’s all keep praying for all that are ill with this virus in the world.
Gig’em!

TheseTruths

I had not known of the melatonin connection with China virus, or even its anti-inflammatory properties. Thank you for posting.

bakocarl

Cetirizine antihistamine was said by a paper I read to mitigate the cytokine storm – I don’t have the cite handy.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Wonderful! I take generic Zyrtec daily.😀

Valerie Curren
ForGodandCountry

Nope.
As I have explained so many times, George Washington is and will always be THE greatest US President of all time. His place at #1 cannot and never will be be surpassed by anyone, and this for numerous and associated reasons.
Anyone wants to make a case for PDJT as #2 that’s fine whatever.
But I will defend Washington’s place at #1, and my arguments for same utterly destroy any arguments to the contrary…
…to say nothing of the fact that PDJT hasn’t even yet finished his 1st term in office yet. And no, even as impressive as PDJT’s accomplishments have been to date, none surpass Washington’s, and none ever can.
Period. End. Full stop. Done. No one should even bother making the attempt.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Let me just add to this.
If PDJT’s achievements are reversed, twenty years from now his term will be a nothingburger. ONLY if he makes permanent (or at least long term) changes has he a shot at being anywhere above #20, much less #2 after Washington.
If he doesn’t clean the corrupt holdovers out of the swamp, his changes WILL NOT be long term; they’ll be gone within a year of his leaving office. And that process has barely begun, if it has begun at all.
It’s now late enough in PDJT’s first term that he can no longer accomplish this during his first term. Therefore, if he loses this election, he’ll never be regarded as a great president.
Fortunately, he’s very unlikely to lose this election, so he has a chance–but the swamp must be drained.

singularzoe

I totally agree about George Washington. And then regarding Lincoln, things could have turned out so differently after the civil war. That was so horrible for our country, and we lost so many boys on both sides. I think it’s hard for us to imagine what that was like.

Valerie Curren

For the record I was really sharing the image, not the associated words (somewhat hyperbolic anyways). Washington is foundational, of course, & rejecting dynastic kingship was a tremendous exercise in restraint, humility, & a true commitment to citizen governance…Regards!

Aubergine

Don’t say none ever can, not yet.
What would you say if in four years, they changed the law and offered Trump a monarchy?
Don’t think it couldn’t happen, because anything in the world can, and sometimes does.
We can’t judge the Trump presidency from the 230 year view, and we won’t get to.
Never say never.

NurseSusy

The facts of Washington’s greatness are found at his home Mt. Vernon, Alexandria, Va. The docents are wonderful, the home tour is excellent, Washington’s innovations in farming, all his accomplishments before, during, and after his Presidency are amazing. Both George & Martha have their crypt there at Mt Vernon.
The museum tour before touring Mt Vernon is a must. There is a lady costumed as Martha Washington and you ask her questions. She is so adept at answering questions. One young child asked her if she was real? Her answer was stupendous along the lines of “Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.”
I highly recommend visiting Mt Vernon when the plague is lifted and we can travel. The view of the Potomac sitting in the rocking chairs at the Mt Vernon back porch is excellent.
It’s interesting how you see a man’s personality in their homes. Washington’s home is of simplicity and humbleness (one can’t fake that) and of great concern for those working the farm and making their work easier. He designed some wonderful farming improvements and advocated making whiskey as to not buy rum from the British. Main Street economy over the Mercantile economy. Even then!
On the other hand, is Jefferson’s home Monticello (also in Virginia), reveals to me a vain and show off personality with no regard to comfort of guests or servants. To use psychobabble, lack of self esteem and trying to show people how smart he, which he was. He dictated what he considered to be the ideal with no regard to others opinion or comfort. Example, the beds set into the walls and the narrow, steep staircases to go upstairs. Of course, he didn’t have to haul trunks, firewood, water, up to these upstairs rooms. The stables under the mansion, are small & cramped, and I would find it very uncomfortable to care for horses in those stables. These are just a few faults I found at Monticello.
The “smartest” thing Jefferson did was picking the Monticello site to build on, with no water. Water had to be carted up the steep mountain sides in the dry months to water the gardens, which are magnificent. Jefferson was always style over substance in my perception of his home. He did great things for the fledgling United States of America, but I am not impressed with him as a person, and by the way, I don’t buy into all that Sally Jenning’s nonsense.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! Fake Pope! Do the opposite of whatever he says! 😀

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Just kidding, there. Francis says a lot of good stuff that is 100% Biblical and Christian. But some things – WHEW!!! “CHECK, PLEASE!!!”

cthulhu

You were more correct on your first take.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! I so want to, but just can’t.
Seriously, he has tweeted stuff that is so core Christian that even nitpicking on the edges is utterly impossible. He won’t even try to sneak in whale poop or one atom molecule of CO2, much less a pachamama. One cannot even say “yeah, but it’s Francis” without saying “yeah, but it’s Jesus the carpenter, YOU KNOW…..that guy…”
Other stuff? OMG – run for the Temple of Baal exits!!! 😀

Aubergine

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Deplorable Patriot

See my response below. We’re all hanging on for the St. Gallen Mafia to age out. Unfortunately, they’ve been replacing the Pope Saint John Paul II, and Pope Benedict XVI choices with…yeah, pray for us. Here in STL we get one of their sycophants installed as archbishop today on the Feast of St. Louis, King of France. After eleven years of competency, and a man who wouldn’t even give us dispensation for corned beef on St. Patrick’s Day, we get somebody who is under investigation in Massachusetts.
Not a happy camper about that.

duchess01

He’s going ‘off the rails’ lately – dunno how Catholics can tolerate it anymore.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

There will be plenty of vaccines with zero downsides for Catholics. It would be so easy for him to just say “We must prefer the vaccines which are not corrupt, if at all possible, but to save the lives of our most vulnerable, some may choose the lesser evil of saving those who are alive now, as their conscience allows. This is a personal decision, and prayer is necessary.”
See – this guy will NOT defend against forced sterilization vaccines. He’s too PC – he lives in a bubble of Alinsky satanic false fears. Because he is afraid of population shadows, he dances to communist tunes on abortion, euthanasia and sterilization.

duchess01

Tell me – are the uncorrupted vaccines labeled? This is ‘doublespeak’ – has he caught something from Biden?
Personally, I think his mind is corrupted – does he even know how far afield he has gone? My friend tells me we must pray for him anyway – and I ask – for what am I supposed to pray?
I have explained to her he is not what he appears to be – most are not aware of his past – but, because he is the Papa – we must discard that – and pray God will help him change his ways – I am not sure that is possible – for reasons I cannot explain to her.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, we will have to do our own research on the vaccines. I’m using the term “corrupt” as a generic term for unacceptable to most Catholics – and honestly, I don’t know where that line is going to be. If one wants to get really gritty about where human cell lines enter the equation, maybe ALL vaccines are “corrupt”.

duchess01

That is a real problem – there was a long list of ‘ingredients’ posted a while back – not at all natural – and then – there is the vaccine damage lawsuits – still not comfortable with vaccines any which way you cut it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The RCC should be leading on this. GONE. Absent. Out to lunch.

duchess01

True – so who and what can one trust to make a sensible decision – a woman I know decided to homeschool her two youngest boys because of a vaccine mandate.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This site, IMO. We’ll have the best outlook!

duchess01

True, Wolf – did not mean to diminish the blessings we received here – and I am sure you know why I asked…just imagine how many blindly follow this man without question what he is saying…
As Q frequently says – ‘Be careful who you follow’ – and this kind of ‘logic’ (?) is why.

grandmaintexas

Wolf, I pray BXVI outlives him. I pray Bergoglio is seen as the fraud he is, and I pray he is quickly removed.

Deplorable Patriot

In this Faith, bad leadership is part of the deal. Always has been. Always will be. That’s why faith is in GOD not man.
Remember, Christ did pick Judas Iscariot as one of his chosen band. We all know how that turned out.

duchess01

True, but Jesus knew he would betrayed Him.

grandmaintexas

I don’t. I have followed the evidence closely for years now, and have concluded he is an antipope. No arguments about whether I have a right to state my opinion.
I do.
The Church will eventually declare it formally, as is its purview.
Even the devil quoted Scripture…

Deplorable Patriot

Yeah, that’s just it. There’s a big fight over this right now, and those who aren’t giving in on Francis actually being pope, are ignoring at least one Marian Apparition, and the evidence that the resignation and abdication are what is in question, not the election. Walking out onto the Loggia WITHOUT the Papal Mozzetta should have been a big clue.

grandmaintexas

I was one of those people who felt a sense of dread deep in my guts when he walked out there. It was like time stood still for a minute. There was a roaring in my ears and I knew that something was horribly wrong.
I felt the evil.
Always trust your gut.

duchess01

Gee, Grandma – I sure hope the Church declares it formally – would be so relieved.

grandmaintexas

I believe the Church will get back to it’s right mind at some point, unless Jesus comes back first.

duchess01

Do you think this is a concerted effort to destabilize the Catholic Church? OR Is it an effort to reestablish traditional values?
The Church belongs to Jesus – and I doubt He is happy with what it has become.

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, Jesus is not happy. We’ve heard the message via His mother and it gets ignored.
It’s an effort to bring the Church down, as in no more Sacraments. And it’s been going on for quite a while.

duchess01

Oh…did not know that – Thanks, DP!

Deplorable Patriot

Yeah, Marian Apparitions don’t get the attention they used to. Well, Fatima, anyway.

duchess01

Guess not, DP

grandmaintexas

You mean Francis? He was put in to split the Church. He is quoted as saying so.
Wikileaks…Podesta…Catholic Spring.
Vatican atms not working just a few days before BXVI resigned…

ForGodandCountry

Fake poop is more accurate. Francis doesn’t even rise the the level of real, actual shit.

Deplorable Patriot

Many of the faithful actually agree with you.

NurseSusy

LOL!! True story– When touring the Vatican in 2010 with an Italian lady tour guide, she was doing the tour in English, but kept saying the “Poop” this and the “Poop” that. The tourist were openly laughing every time she said “Poop.” Became the inside joke in our family.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Now that is surprising! The o in pope is actually the same sound the Italians spell with an o, so if she saw the word “pope” in print, it shouldn’t confuse her (she might need to wear a shock collar to train herself not to pronounce the silent e, though). The Italian (and Latin) word for “pope” is “papa” but that’s not pronounced like “poop” either.
So I can’t figure out how this tour guide would have gotten the idea to pronounce “pope” as “poop.” Nor would I have been able to start thinking about it until I was done laughing, if I had been there.

singularzoe

Pope is a disgusting commie.

duchess01

Sad, but true, Zoe!!!

Deplorable Patriot

[eyeroll]
Serious Catholics don’t pay any attention to Bergoglio, aka Francis the talking mule, especially when he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and advocating AGAINST Church teaching, which is what this is.
When you know the Faith, ignoring heretic leadership is a given. We’ve survived the Borgias, and others. We’ll survive this. Just stick to the Sacraments and Devotions, and the Barque will weather the storm.
Eventually.

duchess01

So glad to hear they are not listening, DP – I ask – to make sure – but, it bothers me to even think there are those who are being deceived – Thanks!!!

NurseSusy

I found it suspect when this man was so “humble” that he wouldn’t live in the church housing in Argentina, but insisted living in a small apartment with no housekeeper. I always wondered what he was hiding. Also, didn’t he refuse to live in the Papal quarters at the Vatican, but resided elsewhere in the Vatican.

Deplorable Patriot

He’s living in St. Martha’s House which is on the grounds. He said he didn’t need all the space in the papal apartments.
I have an idea there were other reasons.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“Humble” is part of this guy’s schtick, which is why he decided to pick the name “Francis” in the first place.
As to what the original Francis would have thought about this guy using his name…I’ll leave that for someone who knows a LOT more about St. Francis.

Deplorable Patriot

Umm…St. Francis of Assisi (there are multiple St. Francises) was NOT humble. He was actually a leader who went out of his way to do truly unnecessary mortification of the flesh to atone for his previous sins. Hair shirts?????
What St. Francis was was called to repair the Church which had fallen into apostacy by the 13th century. He, St. Simon Stock (Carmelites) and St. Dominic Savio (Order of Preachers or the Dominicans) were the trio who started three of the four orders of friars. What followed in the next hundred years, at least, was a time of great saints including Sts. Albert the Great and Thomas Aquinas who were/are both Dominicans and influential even today as well as renewal.
My guess is THAT’s why Bergoglio chose Francis.
https://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=50

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I thought St Francis was the one who started yet another order that had taken a vow of poverty. Perhaps I have him confused with someone else.
My bad.

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, no, you are correct. St. Francis of Assisi founded the friars who take an oath of poverty. Most of the orders do, even the Jesuits, techically.
Just remember, he wasn’t the only St. Francis. St. Francis Xavier founded the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) along side St. Ignatius Loyola and St. Francis de Sales was Swiss living in the 16th & 17th centuries, and was a warrior against the error that infected Christianity at that time.

gil00

Madison, wisconsin tonight.
Madalyn O’Neill (@news3madalyn) Tweeted:
You can’t go too far without finding another fire downtown tonight. @WISCTV_News3 https://t.co/0zuaIfWsN2

bakocarl

Maybe you have to be an OF to really appreciate this, but . . .comment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff! And Burma Shave, too! 😉

Gail Combs

LOVE it. We use to see the Burma Shave signs all the time.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK, people. LAY IT ON ME. Your experiences with QUERCETIN. Positives? Side effects? Anything else you’d like to mention?

Gudthots

Been taking 500 mg once or twice a day since early in the Spring. Mild antihistamine effect that helped with sinus drainage. Some versions come with Bromelain which may be a helpful enzyme for URIs. No downside for me but I think there are some that are sensitive to antihistamines in general.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great, thanks! Very helpful. I may need to start off micro-dosing just to be sure.

cthulhu

Undetectable side effects. Big honkin’ capsule. Still doing experiments with cinchona bark, but back-filling with quercetin while they proceed (I now know 2 things that DON’T work).

cthulhu

In case anyone is wondering — things that don’t work for cinchona extract:
1. Using a Cuisinart Spice and Nut Grinder on 20g of cinchona bark. A bunch of stuff was whipped into a fine dust that drifted everywhere like a cloud and instantly clogged filter paper several steps later — and the rest ended up as almost 1/8″ cubed. The raw material was “fine cut (about 1/8″x3/16”). Next run will may use “fine cut” or run through a Kitchenaid “grain mill” at largest size (more or less “polenta”).
2. Trying to thread the needle between “decoction” and “infusion” using a double boiler. This left me with enough surviving mold/bacteria to have small “blooms” on the surface of the extract (and also demonstrated that there are available calories). Next run will go full decoction route — rolling boil for 20+ minutes. Double boiler goes back on hook.
As a total side note — natural quinine extracted from cinchona is reported to be sufficiently bitter as to induce regurgitation in people who imbibe it. OTOH, the process of making beer involves boiling water for about an hour while leaching grain extract from it. Early in the process (but late in the evolution of beer), hops are introduced to bitter the beer. Later additions of hops flavor the beer — and, later still, improve the “nose”. Part of what I’m dancing around is, could you substitute cinchona for some of the bittering hops and create “fever beer”? Get sniffles, swill three per day until gone….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Nice! Failure is how you get to AWESOME!

cthulhu

You want to know how to never win? Never try.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!
Have you tried coffee grinders?

cthulhu

I don’t own a coffee grinder. If the grain mill isn’t satisfactory, I might get one. I suspect it would be closer to the Spice/Nut grinder, so I’m really pulling for the grain mill working.
Cinchona source — http://www.HerbalAdvantage.com
You want small particles for efficient extraction, but you don’t want particles so small they clog filter paper.

itswoot

For several months I’ve been taking a capsule daily with a combined quercetin 500 gm and 1,400 mg vitamin C. I also take 22 mg of chelated zinc along with that.
No side effects that I’m aware of.
I developed a sore throat a couple of months ago that may or may not have been related to COVID-19. I doubled my daily dose of quercetin, C and zinc until it subsided.
Peace of mind at a relatively low cost.

itswoot

500 mg

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff! THANKS!!! 😀

Teagan

Itswoot…DH and I take about the same as you…but 50 mg zinc and more C. No adverse side effects at all. As you say, cheap enough for a sense of being pro-active and peace of mind.

singularzoe

Wolf, I take it with zinc–qwercetin, I mean. Gail told us how good it was. Being a zinc ion–whatever, lol. Gail mentioned it helping allergies, too, which I think it does. I like it. I also take NAC quite often. At this point, zinc and qwercetin are my most imprtant supplements. I also take 10 ml melatonin at night but am only sleeping about six hours–does anyone have any ideas for me? I am exhausted during the day.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

magnesium can help you get longer sleep, IMO. You may need more b/c of all the zinc.

singularzoe

Thank you, Wolf. I know that’s true about magnesium. Not sure which kind is easiest to Thank take as some forms give me problems. I used to take it. Get only a little in my super thyroid multi. Thank you.

piper567

I have read that Magnesium is best absorbed through the skin…and maybe the feet.
Topicals are readily available.

Teagan

Just watch the amount of magnesium…it can easily cause diarrhea.
For females, you might consider having your progesterone level checked….big factor in post-menopause sleep issues.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes the form of magnesium can be important, and the amount critical. Magnesium oxide tablets actually work nicely – stomach acid dissolves them fairly reliably. Yes, chelated is better, and basically pre-dissolved, but I find that MgO with an acidic drink is quite physiologically active, without the “big D”! 😉

singularzoe

OOPS, meant mg Not ml. Too tired. Lol. I’m sure people realize what I meant.

itswoot

“I also take 10 ml melatonin at night but am only sleeping about six hours”
Maybe give vitamin B 6 a try. I’ve used it and it helped in remembering my dreams, and in them being more vivid. It is also reported to aide in having a more restful sleep, but I don’t recall what effect that may have had on me.
I just ordered a bottle of 100 mg capsules. It has been awhile since I ran out of them. B 6 is best taken just before going to sleep.

grandmaintexas

I take it daily. No side effects.

Aubergine

I take a 235mg capsule daily. I have noticed NO side effects. I take 25mg of zinc, vitamin C 500 mg, magnesium 400 mg, vitamin D 1000 i.u, and calcium.
I always take supplements with food. I think the body can absorb them better this way. I do it with my morning smoothie, which has fruit, greens, pea protein, and healthy fat (avocado).
I used to only take calcium and vitamin D. I hate taking pills, but covid changed that!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent! Thanks for that! Very helpful!

duchess01

Police Raid Man’s Home, Forcibly Quarantine for Refusing COVID-19 Test

wheatietoo

It’s kind of funny that the ’emergency enforcement officer’s’ name was…Karen.
😏
Good video, though.
He sees the Tyranny that is running rampant right now, that is using this plannedemic to destroy our freedoms.

duchess01

Agree, Wheatie – noticed that right away!!!
This is disturbing!!! Yes, destroying our freedoms!!!

Valerie Curren

further evidence of upheaval here….

gil00

Its in l.a., d.c., Charlottesville, chicago….

Valerie Curren

That’s insane. I heard on the radio yesterday an interview w/ Detroit’s chief of police (who seems to be a decent type) that of the rioters (like 40) scooped up recently most, if not all, were out of towners. Soros shills suspected…grrr 🙁

gil00

Theyve got all the blm money to pay.

Valerie Curren

Little, if anything, organic about what’s been going on…

Teagan

State line laws…stiffer penalties

Valerie Curren

Assuming they don’t just get bailed out & disappear. These guys should get held on enemy combatant terrorism charges!

Valerie Curren

More eyewitness info…

Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

Boots on the ground & up in some A–es!

Gudthots

Um. Okay?

TheseTruths

I suppose the Speaker should resign for saying such things about people whom House members represent, but I have been saying she and most Dems are enemies of the state for quite some time.
She should also resign for not having learned about Deplorables. It didn’t work for Hillary and many who came after her, and it will only backfire on Pelosi. She should resign for letting desperation cloud her judgment.

TheseTruths

Oh, I see: she called Pres. Trump and Republicans in Congress enemies of the state, not we the people (although I’m sure she sees us in that role, too).
Yes, she should resign, but she won’t, especially while there is a 000000001% chance in her mind that Dems could orchestrate the election so she could become president temporarily.

pgroup

You are not a representative of the people. She is, ostensibly. Big difference.

patfrederick

I think she’s right…she just forgot a word…Deep.
We ARE enemies of the DEEP STATE.

nikkichico7

The United States 🇺🇸 of America is Not the Mad Hatter’s ride in the flipping “majik kingdom” this sleazy depraved lawless drunkerd does not get the civility of “resigning” since she is a lawless ENEMY COMBATANT of the United States 🇺🇸 of America. Arrest the drunken sot live on air, …. lock 🔐 her boozy ass up, then deport her.

realsauce

THIS is the definition of Panic in DC. THIS is encouraging. SHE is scared. THIS is confirmation

Gudthots

India says shutdown more deadly than virus.
Post 10394744 via https://wearethene.ws/notable/132700
Economic consequences of Corona lockdown cause more deaths in India than Corona itself
Example Uttar Pradesh: Per 1000 inhabitants there were 0.16 Covid-19 deaths, compared to 3.41 economically induced deaths”.
Desperation over his economic situation drove Ompal S. to his death. The relatives of the 55-year-old sugar cane farmer report that he could not get rid of his harvest because the local sugar factory no longer accepted the raw material due to a lockdown.
The father of five therefore decided to commit suicide – and triggered a wave of protests in his homeland, India’s most populous state of Uttar Pradesh, by farmers who felt abandoned in the face of the corona crisis.
The prominent opposition politician Priyanka Gandhi indirectly blamed the government for the death: she accused the authorities of ignoring the problems of the farmers.
The incident shows how much the severe economic downturn that hit India as a result of the Corona crisis is shaking the country even far away from the virus hotspots. Loss of income and rising unemployment are driving millions of people below the poverty line – with serious consequences for food and health care.
The development is highly dangerous from the point of view of economists: they warn that the economic consequences of the corona crisis could lead to more deaths than infection with the sars-CoV-2 virus.
Around three million people infected
Officially, India has so far reported three million cases of infection and 55,000 corona deaths. Economists at the State Bank of India, the country’s largest credit institution, point out in a new study that the economic sacrifices are, however, significantly increasing the mortality rate.
They have calculated how many more people die when economic output falls by ten percent compared to normal times. They describe their findings as worrying in their recently published report.
For the state of Maharashtra, where the financial metropolis of Mumbai is located and which experienced a particularly strong Covid 19 outbreak, they currently assume 0.34 Covid 19 deaths per 1000 inhabitants. At the same time there would be 1.28 additional deaths due to the economic slump, the study says.
In poorer states such as Uttar Pradesh, the ratio is even more extreme according to the economists: 0.16 covid-19 deaths would be statistically equivalent to 3.41 economically induced deaths – again per 1000 inhabitants.
Economist Deepa Mani and her colleague Shashwat Alok from the Indian School of Business had already warned the government in May about economic fatalities: They estimated that a five percent decline in economic output would lead to 47,000 to 62,000 additional deaths in India. According to their model, a 30 percent slump would result in 330,000 to 430,000 deaths.
Their calculations are based on the decline in the mortality rate that has been observed in India in recent decades as the economy has grown. In times of economic downturn, however, it is not only economically motivated suicides that drive mortality upwards. Increased deaths from diseases such as tuberculosis and higher child mortality are also directly related to rising poverty.
Mani and Alok are aware of the limitations of their model and the difficulty of comparing it with Covid-19 deaths. They refer among other things to the number of unreported cases in Indian statistics. From the point of view of independent observers, the number of people who have died from the coronavirus could be significantly higher than officially reported.
However, the basic argument of the economists remains unaffected: In an essay they point out that the idea of first saving people from Covid-19 death and in a second step saving the economy does not work. Rather, the government must keep the pandemic and economic development in mind at the same time in order to save as many lives as possible. “We need a data-driven approach to protect both human lives and the economy at the same time,” they demanded.
India could soon overtake Brazil
But at present India does not seem to be able to do either: The number of Covid-19 infections has recently increased by around 70,000 per day – the virus is thus spreading faster than anywhere else in the world. A flattening of the curve is currently not in sight.
Post 10394747
>>10394744
Part 2
Experts therefore expect that India could soon overtake Brazil as the country with the second most cases in the world. In the medium term, India would also overtake the USA if the trend continues. Several ministers in the cabinet of Prime Minister Narendra Modi have already fallen ill with Covid-19 – including the influential Interior Minister Amit Shah.
An examination of 15,000 people for antibodies in the capital New Delhi suggests that 30 percent of the population there were already infected with the corona virus. However, the pandemic could not be limited to the big cities. More than half of the new cases of infection are now reported in rural areas.
At the same time, the economic damage caused by India’s extremely strict lockdown, which lasted months, is becoming increasingly evident. Economists assume that the gross domestic product in the quarter ending in June fell by around 20 percent compared to the previous year.
The initial restrictions that Modi had imposed on his country were particularly noticeable during this period. Official figures from state statisticians are expected on 31 August.
Looking at the financial year as a whole, which in India ends in March, forecasts are becoming increasingly pessimistic. The economists at Barclays Bank had originally predicted a minus of three percent. Now they expect the country’s economy to shrink by six percent.
The World Bank warns that lower income groups are particularly hard hit by the development: It conducted a survey of households living in poverty in 10 Indian states. According to the findings, these households lost an average of 60 percent of their income during the lockdown.
The organisation’s report states that India has succeeded in reducing the number of people living in poverty considerably in recent years. “But our temporary analysis shows that these achievements are in danger of disappearing as a result of the Covid-19 lockdowns.”
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Sauce:
https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/pandemie-oekonomen-wirtschaftliche-folgen-sorgen-fuer-mehr-tote-in-indien-als-corona-selbst/26115182.html?ticket=ST-1766685-OM9ESlEt3WxhtiXuVjxw-ap5

ForGodandCountry
duchess01

Matt Gaetz brilliant one-liner…(Video)
Posted by Kane on August 24, 2020 11:02 pm
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/matt-gaetz-brilliant-one-liner/
‘I’m speaking to you from an auditorium emptier than Joe Biden’s daily schedule’

ForGodandCountry

Savage.
Love me some Gaetz. ❤️

duchess01

He’s a keeper for sure, FG&C!

Gudthots

Check out photo chosen for this article (from WeAreTheNe.ws)comment image

Gudthots

We are Q.comment image

ForGodandCountry

Of course we’re optimistic!
We have a WARRIOR as a CiC who is handing America’s enemies, both foreign and domestic, their collective ass on a daily basis.
It’s absolutely glorious to watch him pawn those jackasses on an almost hourly basis.

pgroup

They sure are. 🙂

gil00

Brokeback Patriot (@brokebackUSA) Tweeted:
Holy fire @RichardGrenell handing @DonaldJTrumpJr a bedazzled American flag clutch is everything I never knew I needed in my life 🔥 https://t.co/hEDsSXQKIf

gil00

I had to repost bc it was funny in a harmless way. Twit folk are acting homophobic and saying jr is on coke. Nasty but expected.

michaelh

I just have to remind myself, it’s a bigger co-psyop on them 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Every clutch wants to be a pipe bag, a snake-bite kit, a trauma kit, or a holster, if it just finds the right owner. 😉

Gudthots

Allen wrench corral…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes!
Although if Grenell gave it to me, the wrenches would only get used for high-tech stuff, and it would always be returned to its rightful display place!

duchess01

I get asked sometimes by people who are on the fence or aren’t politically active:
“What has @realDonaldTrump done or fixed as President?”
It’s a good question deserving of an in depth answer, so here’s a thread listing some of what he’s done in 3.5 years.
Read it and RT!
First before we begin, I will be providing citations for every single thing listed here. Go to GrowUpLive.com and sign up for the email list. You’ll be sent a PDF with all of these accomplishments and citations for each. I purposefully used a broad range of news sources.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1298033536163880965.html

kalbokalbs

Trump 2020 has very thorough list of accomplishments. Guessing they update it frequently.

duchess01

Comedian Trump trolls media…
Posted by Kane on August 24, 2020 8:19 pm
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/comedian-trump-trolls-media/
“Good to see you all. Hope you had a great weekend at your convention.”

ForGodandCountry

So savage. So 🔥🔥🔥.
He backhands them with such ease.

gil00

So a man was on his porch in Wisconsin and saw the rioters getting out of their cars all over in front of his home. He used his rifke to warn them. They say someone was shot but no injuries noted. What he did do is make the roaches scuttle butt back into their cars and leave.
Lots of fires, police presence is very minimal everywhere. No fire or police response essentially. I have seen some use of tear gas but not much.
The rioters were trying to burn down Wisconsin state Capitol. Evers is really going to look bad in the am news cycle.

cthulhu

I would assume that he had something like a cinderblock wall along the front of his property and expended a couple of rounds “sighting-in” to its base.

michaelh

My Reading & Video List for 2020-08-25
https://twitter.com/mhtx76/status/1298136063664427008

Gudthots
Gudthots

God haters.comment image

Gudthots

May God rip the veil from their eyes and open their hearts to He who is Truth.comment image

scott467

The amazing this is that the majority of the people in those cities don’t seem to care.
As we have seen, in some cities and towns, the people come out in force and chase these little sissies away.
It’s a very strange dynamic that has developed, between the red states and the blue states. The governors in the red states are afraid to let the police ‘stand down’, because they know the People wouldn’t stand for it.
But in the blue states, the people who disagree with the insane Left are apparently muzzled.

duchess01

TheseTruths

AOC thinks it is harder for her to be taken seriously because of her 1) race, 2) gender, and 3) age. But then there’s Candace Owens, a 1) black 2) woman who is 3) also 31 years old. No comparison.

duchess01

Problem for AOC is – she doesn’t think.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That would present a problem for TheseTruths’ little theory, now wouldn’t it? 😀

duchess01

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Bee is just hilarious, AS ALWAYS!!! 😀

duchess01

Sometimes, they can be off-putting tho’ I think…

TheseTruths

That’s the nature of comedy. 😉

duchess01

I guess, Truths – we all do not see the humor in some things…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I can see it!

duchess01

duchess01

duchess01

Hmmm…did not even consider that a possibility…of course, that is how you get more than 100% voting – I guess

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, they COULD check them…if they are somehow under the impression that the GOP is cheating more than the Dems.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Wow…what an irony. The way to ensure an honest election might be to try to cheat to force D election officials to actually do their jobs.

duchess01

Nah, that would never happen – imho – we had the chance to check the rolls – they refused – because they have something to hide – until those rolls are checked and revised – we will not have a handle on our electorate or our elections – imho

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think you might have missed my (half joking) point. The dems turn a blind eye to that sort of thing (of course!) because THEY think that they are the ones doing the cheating. If we could somehow convince them that WE would use those fat rolls to cheat–THEN they would enforce the rules.

duchess01

You beginning to sound like PT – if ‘I said I don’t want to build a wall’ – ‘they would insist we build a wall’ – not sure I see your point – they KNOW they are cheating – so if they accused our side of cheating – they would get caught – not saying there could not be cheating on our side – we do have many who do not live by the rules – just wondering what’s the point…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

LOL, yeah it’s definitely reverse psychology! We wouldn’t have to ACTUALLY cheat, just make them genuinely concerned that we WOULD cheat. Then they’d be all over it like starving bulldogs on a pork chop.

Linda