Dear KAG: 20220824 Open Thread

Is it Wednesday already?

Twitter Whistleblower Surfaces Presenting Challenge for U.S. Surveillance State, Enter CNN and The Washington Post

CNN is the national media firm protecting the interests of the U.S. State Dept.  The Washington Post is the national media firm protecting the interests of the U.S. intelligence apparatus.  The latest Twitter whistleblower information originates in,.. wait for it… “an explosive whistleblower disclosure obtained exclusively by CNN and The Washington Post.”

Elon Musk Subpoenas Former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey

The filing with Delaware’s Court of Chancery seeks documents, messages, emails, financial statements, online chat or instant messages, recordings, and other forms of communication from Dorsey, who stepped down as Twitter’s chief executive last year.

Dorsey is asked to produce documents and communications “reflecting, referring to, or relating to Twitter’s use of any other user metric other than mDAU (monetizable daily active users), including but not limited to, daily active users” and any other Twitter metric that monitors active users on the social media website, according to the court filing.

Dorsey has yet to issue a public comment on the subpoena.

More whistleblowers come forward against ‘out of control’ FBI

FBI field offices in Miami, Salt Lake City, Buffalo and Newark face accusations that their upper management coerced agents to sign false affidavits, inflated terrorism caseloads to improve their apparent performance, engaged in illicit sexual activities, or concealed those of others, according to the Washington Times.

“The FBI is completely out of control and its culture and structure needs to change. Not only is the political bias completely out of control and disgustingly obvious, the FBI knows they will not be held accountable for their illegal behavior and misconduct,” said one Whistleblower in a letter to Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-Tx) of the House Judiciary Committee. This whistleblower alleged that FBI Director Christopher Wray ignored her allegations of sexual misconduct.

The same eight people have won the Maryland lottery 2,305 times (!!) in two years. Seriously.

Of course, we’re talking about the state-level games here, not national games like Powerball, but it’s definitely suspicious. Plus, there seems to be an art in Maryland of hiding one’s identity behind giant checks, probably to keep family and friends from finding out about the winners’ good fortune, but now it’s looking like it could be to keep lottery fanatics and the authorities from catching on to the repeat wins too.

Oh, hey, that’s fair. NOT!

George Soros, other billionaires flood Schumer’s PAC with millions to save Senate majority

Soros steered $2.5 million from his Democracy PAC to the Senate Majority PAC in July, while hedge fund billionaire James Simons added an identical amount, according to new Federal Election Commission filings. The duo was the largest donors to the committee last month, which is now entering the home stretch of the midterm elections with nearly $73 million cash on hand.

The new Soros cash also brings his total to the Senate Majority PAC to $10 million for the 2022 elections, making him one of its largest contributors behind a dark money nonprofit affiliated with the PAC.

Buying the legislature again.

In California’s water crisis, neighbors turn in neighbors and even celebrities aren’t spared


Important interview.

James O’Keefe deserves a Medal of Freedom in the end.

Liz Cheney’s Agony

Liz Cheney, who sits on the Jan. 6th Committee, has made her political agenda clear from the beginning.  Although an “investigation” is supposed to be a search for the truth, Liz Cheney made agonizingly clear many times that she didn’t need to wait for the results of the investigation.  From the beginning her stated aim was “make sure that Trump never gets near the White House again.”  Permanent Washington also made their aim clear.  The Jan. 6th Committee “investigation” was for her, and many others, mere political theatre to achieve a predetermined political agenda.

Had Cheney been interested in the truth, she might have insisted that the committee seat the appropriate number and type of Republicans to cross-examine the prosecutorial witnesses.  She did not do so.  At every turn she interpreted any testimony in the worst way possible for Trump, e.g., she has recently stated that Trump, “commanded” a “heavily armed mob” to try to stop the counting of electoral votes.  She and her Jan. 6th Committee have, however, given no evidence whatsoever that Trump “commanded” an armed mob to use violence to stop the counting of electoral votes.  Her very strong statement requires that she prove both causality and intent.  However, the committee has only demonstrated a degree (even that not clear) of correlation between Trump’s remarks and the riot, namely, that Trump made some remarks and some people went to the Capitol and rioted.  The committee has not proved that Trump’s remarks caused the mob to riot at the Capitol or that Trump intended that his remarks cause the mob to riot at the Capitol.  Demonstrating causality or intent is never easy in social situations: “Since intent is a mental state. it is one of the most difficult things to prove.” It is certainly not easy given the very murky events surrounding Jan. 6th, events that the committee in their “Star Chamber” has conspired to keep murky.  For Liz Cheney, however, everything about Jan. 6th is as clear to her as her seething hatred of Donald Trump. 

Never Forget that We are America

But Thomas Sowell, in The Vision of the Anointed, reckons that today’s society consists of the Anointed, the Benighted, and the Mascots. He’s right. Our liberal friends and their pals at the FBI are the Anointed. Trump voters are the Benighted, and all the scheduled classes of victims are the special Mascots of the ruling class, displayed in appropriate trophy cabinets in every Anointed home.

Authoritarian Democrats Heart the Deep State

Unlike Garland and Wray, Trump and his Republican allies were elected by the people. It is a peculiar democracy indeed in which agents of the state can break into the home of the opposition leader without controversy. But Democrats fancy themselves enlightened “antiracists,” which they imagine gives them exclusive rights of control over the state in Our Democracy™. 

The righteousness of the Left is a thing to behold. Consider Michael Hayden, a former CIA director who endorsed executing Trump over innuendo about “nuclear weapons” and the Espionage Act. Hayden, as it happens, also believes that the Trump movement is a terrorist threat worse than al-Qaeda. Go figure.

Hayden is not alone. After January 6, 2021, former CIA head John Brennan, another career spy suffering from Trump-induced derangement, gave his own take on Hillary Clinton’s “basket of deplorables”: the Trump movement is an “insurgency” and “unholy alliance” of “religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, nativists, even libertarians,” he said.

What do you do with insurgencies? Why, you crush them, of course.

Weaponized Compassion & The Culture War

I subscribe to Fisted By Foucault, the Substack of the right-wing writer and controversialist Niccolo Soldo. Since the advent of monkeypox, Soldo has been revisiting, in a newsletter series, the advent of AIDS, and the culture of gay male promiscuity that produced it. Soldo liberally quotes from official public health sources and the memoirs of gay writers who were present in the 1970s when many gay men gave themselves over to extreme promiscuity and radical sexual practices. He focuses in part on people like gay physicians who were terrified by the fact that so many gay men’s bodies were becoming petri dishes, as well as on people like the gay activist Larry Kramer and the gay journalist Randy Shilts, who were early alarmists about the new “gay cancer,” and whose warnings were quite unpopular. In today’s issue, Soldo writes:

All animal species have a natural instinct for self-preservation thanks to evolution. Those that never developed this mechanism to a sufficient extinct died out a long, long time ago. It is a vital function that keeps us alive.

Despite humans creating civilizations that worked to diminish some of the rougher and more dangerous aspects of nature, this instinct remains strong in our constitutions for the simple fact that societies are fragile, and threats to our lives can appear immediately. How we choose to assess and then mitigate these threats depends not only on how our societies are organized and what resources we have access to, but also how we personally assess these threats. This will often come down to personality traits that are inherent or are developed over time due to environmental factors and/or personal experiences. Some types select social conformity, others will choose gun ownership, and so on. The examples are endless.

One type of personality known to us all is the ‘Alarmist’. This person will warn others in advance of a threat that they see coming, often exaggerating the actual threat for desired effect. We all know this type, as it has saturated our minds in the age of instantaneous communication and clickbait journalism. A problem with the Alarmist is that they can often be wrong, leading to a “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” reaction from the targeted audience. Excessive alarmism negatively impacts credibility. But for those of you who have been paying attention this past decade, these alarmists actually have a pretty good track record. This is why it pays to not completely discount the paranoid rantings of the ‘internet schizophrenic’.

Larry Kramer (whom we have met earlier in this series) was one of those alarmists. Something in his gut was telling him that the hyper-charged sexual activity of gay men in the 1970s posed an existential risk. He had no way of knowing that the HIV virus was already making its way through the gay community (and IV drug users as well), but he could sense the danger. His 1978 novel “Faggots” sounded the alarm, and Kramer became persona non grata on Fire Island because of it, as he was seen as spoiling the party.

Some people will react early, others will react too late. Some people will overreact, others will choose to put personal interests above those of the affected community as a whole. Others still will place politics as the primary lens through which to perceive the threat and react to it, pushing down actual public health concerns. Still others will deny that something is happening, with even more others seeing conspiracies unfolding before their eyes. All of the above took place with regards to those first years of the HIV/AIDS pandemic.

Anne Heche: Crazy? A Survivor Speaks Out

I understood the secrets and suffering that led her to create an alter ego. Only a survivor of childhood abuse can comprehend the need to find a way to survive the violent physical attack an innocent child suffers from familial abuse. Fantasy worlds and alter egos are common methods used by young victims to live through it. According to an interview in 2001 on ABC, “Heche stated that she created a fantasy world called the ‘Fourth Dimension’ to make herself feel safe and had an alter ego who was the daughter of God and half-sister of Jesus Christ named Celestia.” It was a form of self-protection to hide her shame and suffering.

Her battle was to survive and live beyond her childhood trauma and the haunting memories. Sadly, Heche could never escape them. Her tragedy was that she could not beat the devil. She could not obliterate the horror she suffered as a child. She could not overcome the mental scars of that brutality and did not achieve healing or freedom to live authentically as herself: Anne Heche.

Brian Cates

Gentle reminder:

That one guy that wants to either join your group or start a group and then starts dropping all kinds very strong hints that it’s time to get the guns and start kidnapping/executing government officials?

That guy?


It would really be freaking nice if people would quit falling for this obvious shit.

31.5KviewsBrian Cates, Aug 23 at 11:46

Exclusive: Yelp to flag listings for crisis pregnancy centers

Yelp is adding a prominent consumer notice to crisis pregnancy center listings to more clearly distinguish them from clinics that provide abortion services, in a policy change shared first with Axios.

The big picture: Yelp’s move is the latest tech-company response to a post-Roe world in which abortion information has become a significant online battleground, with both sides of the debate applying intense pressure.

Driving the news: Starting today, Yelp will add a consumer notice to both faith-based and non-faith-based crisis pregnancy centers noting that they “provide limited medical services and may not have licensed medical professionals onsite.

It’s the latest in a series of moved Yelp has made since 2018, when CEO Jeremy Stoppelman directed the company to make sure crisis pregnancy centers were differentiated from abortion clinics in the company’s listings.

All because crisis pregnancy centers give women options and help to have and keep their children.


They attached themselves to the frame. The cherubim are perfectly safe.

Sure you can.

None of it was catalogued, either.

Spinach salad or bust, baby.

I didn’t think they had alligators in Pennsylvania.

Something is going on with this, that’s for sure.

Too bad, so sad.

Go get ’em, Mrs. Dorn.

Nine minutes? Not much at cruising altitude, that’s for sure.

22 more and he passes Babe Ruth for career home runs.


Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

Just ’cause I’m in the mood.

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9Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues, and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10And in the Spirit he carried me away to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, 11having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed; 13on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. 14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

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It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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Brian Cates
Gentle reminder:

That one guy that wants to either join your group or start a group and then starts dropping all kinds very strong hints that it’s time to get the guns and start kidnapping/executing government officials?

That guy?


It would really be freaking nice if people would quit falling for this obvious shit.”


Of course, on the other hand, if nobody ever drops hints or suggests that it’s time to save ourselves, then we would be the best little sheep in the whole wide world.

And we — along with most of the rest of the world — would still be part of the British empire.

So take it easy on the virtue-signalling opposition to organizing against the globo-Nazis to save our lives and the Republic, Brian.

You sound like a shill for the totalitarians when you do that.


He also sounds like a shill for Brian.

Two shills in one sounds like that old gum commercial.

Cuppa Covfefe


Two, two, two mints in one…


So take it easy on the virtue-signalling opposition to organizing against the globo-Nazis to save our lives and the Republic, Brian.

I don’t think he’s doing that. I think he’s saying what we all know: that the FIB infiltrates and traps conservatives to promote their agenda that real patriots are violent extremists. It seems they just did it with the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot. Two people are going to jail. I think that’s all he’s talking about.

I don’t think anyone here is saying that “it’s time to get the guns and start kidnapping/executing government officials” in vigilante-style justice.

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“It seems they just did it with the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot.”


There are perfectly good (albeit now quiet elderly) cave men who wouldn’t be stupid enough to try to kidnap a governor.

What kind of goofball could think that was a good idea?

Where were they going to go with her, that what would certainly be a nationwide manhunt wouldn’t find her (and them) in less than about an hour?

How long does it take for someone to recognize the GOVERNOR is missing?!? 🤣

Assuming they were going to hold her for something in exchange for letting her go at some point, how did they think she wouldn’t be able to identify them?

This was off the charts stupid.

Like drug induced stupid.

Kidnapping is a long crime, it takes a long time to do it, and then instead of doing everything possible to distance yourself from any evidence, you take the scene of the crime and all the evidence with you.

And then what?

There’s already at least a hundred things that could go wrong, and these clowns couldn’t come up with (and account for) more than a few of them. The longer the object of the kidnapping was with them, the more the things that could go wrong multiply exponentially.

Has any historically recent high profile kidnapping plot EVER worked, where the kidnappers got away, in what amounts to a modern police state?

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

These kinds of stupid plots are the harebrained ideas FROM FIB.

Screw FIB. Start protesting them peacefully out of the clear blue with no warning. It will scare them silly.




“I don’t think anyone here is saying that “it’s time to get the guns and start kidnapping/executing government officials” in vigilante-style justice. ”


Of course not, but it’s how the waiting on Godot to save us crowd suppresses any discussion at all about what We the People can or should or ought to do to save ourselves.

There’s no shortage of that, it’s everywhere.

Like it’s some sort of status symbol to decry any thought of any kind of resistance that would actually make a difference.

And I’m very suspicious of that.

Because it’s the kind of thing enemy infiltrators do.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

In my opinion they’re just mind-fracked away from workable protests, which actually scare the HELL out of the left.

What are they most scared of? TRUMP RALLIES.

Why? PEACEFUL MASS PROTESTS that they can’t screw up.

So people like this who say it’s “do nothing” vs. “evil plots” are just victims of enemy brainwashing into false dichotomies and “OR” logic.

Wanna REALLY scare FIB?

Do peaceful protests outside their offices, and arrange them totally offline so they have ZERO intelligence on them.

Phones off, no observable meetings, and then just flash mob them.


So people like this who say it’s “do nothing” vs. “evil plots” are just victims of enemy brainwashing into false dichotomies and “OR” logic.

Yes, and unless I missed something, I haven’t seen anyone say “do nothing.” All I saw is someone warning us to watch for infiltrators who want to steer us in the wrong direction. That is not the same as “do nothing and wait.” We’ve said the same many times here, to hold our fire and not let *them* steer us in the direction they want us to go.

I know people know all this; just reiterating. People are unjustly imprisoned because of this kind of thing. The Left is using the infiltration to justify their false claims that we are violent. Dems and RINOs are trying to use J6 infiltration to take down Trump.

None of that has anything to do with “do nothing.” So yes, we have to watch for false dichotomies.

Gail Combs

Brian and others are focused on protecting the up coming election. THAT is not DO NOTHING!

That is focusing on what can be done LEGALLY and Gregg and Catherine are ALWAYS emphasizing LEGALLY.




Much of my hope is rooted in this stuff.

IF things go as I hope 8 November, then, momentum WILL increase markedly.


The story about the FIB whistleblowers is revealing.

One whistleblower said that the senior agents running the field offices face pressure to increase the number of case loads each year due to the way the Bureau evaluates their performance and that this has lead to illicit practices.

“It’s basically a report card for him, so at the end of his two-year term as a SAC [special agent in charge], he gets moved to a better position down in Washington. And everything focuses around his metrics,” a whistleblower at the Buffalo office said. “You have to have so many terrorism cases per year in your office, or else you fail.”

Former Assistant Director of the FBI Counterterrorism Division and Executive Assistant Director of the National Security Branch Jill Sanborn faced a similar accusation earlier this month that she had improperly classified cases as “domestic violent extremist” (DVEs) to support a Biden administration narrative that such cases were the superlative threat facing the nation.

The corruption starts at the top and with those making and implementing flawed and unjust politcies. Wray and others have a lot to answer for.


“Wray and others have a lot to answer for.”


If only there was some way to make them answer.

That seems to be the crux of the problem.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

EXACTLY. DODGE is answerable to nobody. And THAT is again part of why they set up Trump with MUH RUSSIA / THE HOAX – so that they would not have to be answerable to him.


We have been put into a dilemma. Organization and leadership are absolutely required. Discussing organization and leadership makes you a terrorist.

The surveillance state coupled with Fake Narrative scuttles anything and everything, however incipient OR insipient.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great intel. Yup. SUBVERSION of FBI into FIB by (1) staffing changes, and (2) goal changes.

So they redefine “terrorists” to their political enemies, and then demand more “terrorists” be caught.

This is surely part of the explanation of why they repeatedly tried to set me up.

Gail Combs

This is why Mueller INSISTED all FIB agents had to do a stint in DC. It allowed them to look over and pick and choose the Marxists with in the ranks for promotion.

It is a LONG GAME they are playing.
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Cuppa Covfefe

I wonder if they are using Scientology “management” techniques. “The Management Courses”….. (btw, both UPS and Allstate have been suckered into this)…

Because this sounds just like them. Keep upping the targets and thrashing people when they miss them (downstat) or don’t produce a vfp (valuable final product).

Make money.
Make more money.
Make more money make money…..

Also the practice of lawfare. Sue someone continuously; not necessarily with the intent of winning, but with the intent of wearing them down and bankrupting them (cf. the Wollersheim papers, etc.).

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Gail Combs

Katherine of True the Vote has been in litigation since the Obama years….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is actually great!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“*science on fire*”


Wants more panels where Fauci is going to meet up with the other provocateur’s showing all the damage they have done the nation and the world too. This is about a quarter or less of it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, yeah – the total reality is far, far worse.


AZT should be on there in big bold caps!


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Your reputation never left. Proof? Check the size of your rallies.

Gail Combs

ERRRrrrr Did it not just get LARGER?  😍 


Show me one other person who got raided by the FIB and a rally burst out in front of the scene of the “crime”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



“What will I do now to get my reputation back?”
Could that be a hint that PDJT is going to sue some one?


Thank you, DePat, for such a chewy daily thread — and, for once, I’m not referring to the camels.


Donald J. Trump / @realDonaldTrump

08/23/2022 23:06:51 

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I love it.

Everybody underestimates Trump!

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So Creepy plans to forgive $10k in student loans for people earning less than $125k/yr. Estimated cost is $300B-$980B. Where in the hades is he getting/stealing the money from?!?! A TRILLION DOLLARS??!!??? Supposedly allocated over 10 years, How can he do this without Congress?!?? This dictator bullshit must STOP!! AND….. STOP PRINTING MONEY!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬


He’s getting the money from tax slaves, of course.

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In a van down by the river.

Gail Combs

You know the 54% of IRS RAIDS — the ones who earn $25,000 a year or LESS!

Such a deal! The impoverished yet again support the wealthy.


I guess Biden wants us to pay for people who graduated in woman study.
I find this offensive people make choices. Some students parttime work while in University. Others worked hard in High School to get scholarship and worked while in school. Others parents pay or grandparents. Some kids have a good time spring break buying car drink and party to get a lousy degree. Some are studious get a good degree yes have loans and pay them off. My one kid was smart listed our address and the bill came to our house. I did not know my husband quietly paid it off before I became aware of it. I cut the kid off because he was irresponsible when it came to money. Since he is married his wife takes care of the money and he is doing well.

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Cuppa Covfefe

From the dumbass in Donbas…


Anyone making $125K a year can afford to pay off their student loans.

Most of the people with student loan debt couldn’t make $125K (before or after taxes) in five years.

Who besides lawyers and doctors can make $125K a year after receiving an American education?


Student loans need to be able to surrender to the education institution at face value. “I spent $120,000 with XYZ University to get a Bachelors of Uselessness….it can never pay for itself, so I will surrender the Bachelors to get my money back.”


That would certainly incentivize the universities to teach students something useful 👍


THAT is an actual solution!


My daughter makes twice as much in her field. She had scholarships and worked while in University. She had some depth and paid it off. She handles money well always has. My doctor kid had some he really wanted us to help. We paid his undergrad and some medical still he had $150, 000 when he was finished. He never forgave us that we did not help him pay off. When I saw him buy $10,000 Italian bike and two dogs $1200 each and a $300,000 house I did not feel he was hurting.
Entitlement is a problem. The youngest just blew money as it came in. He was poor for a long time of his own making. Yes he did not earn much at first but he kept blowing what he had. We helped him along the way so not to let him drown but I think we did to much. On the other hand who knows what would have happen to him. Non were into drugs or alcohol abuse.

Gail Combs

It is HOW you handle what money you have.

My Sister-in-law said to me once, I thought my brother was the stingiest person in the world and then I met you.

Kids do not learn to live within their means. Ramon noodles, Mac & cheese, Dingy Moore stew homemade stuff… is what I ate NOT McDonald’s and Pizza hut.


^^^ Resonates here.

To this day, DW and I have a thrifty life. It enables us to lend a helping hand, to less fortunate.

Valerie Curren

We mostly shop resale (had to when kids were young) & will continue to do so as much as possible.

Now we’re learning (mostly hubby since I’m the “saver”) how not to spend hardly Any money…nearly 6 months without a job can do that to you!

Valerie Curren

ramen noodles & popcorn here! I once had to scrape pennies together to exchange for quarters to do laundry & had less than $10 in checkbook until payday. Roommate & I trash-picked a table & bought living room set from Salvation Army. She moved back East & took our furniture (I was OK w/ it). I slept on the floor in a sleeping bag until a friend gave me a twin bed. Then sat on that bag w/ typewriter in front of me on the floor for my school writings.

I typed All of my grad school papers on probably the 1st model of electric typewriter where you had to manually return the carriage. It was missing the “Ee” key so I had to write in Every letter “Ee” (most common in the English language) by hand…oh & used white out for mistakes & writing over it & carets in the margins for corrections, etc. Many of my classmates (School of Theology) were married men whose wives typed up their papers on word processors. Mine looked like crap, but I still got great grades & graduated Suma Cum Laude 😉

Gail Combs

I have yet to buy a STICK of new furniture. I LOVE second hand shops and flea markets and learned to reupholster furniture.

Valerie Curren

Way more interesting & fun to treasure hunt!


The new 87,000-strong “WAFFEN-IRS Enforcement Army.” is the starting point of “where in the hades is he getting/stealing the money from.”

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The same IRS that is planning to create and file our tax returns.

^^^^ 100% Enabled by UNIPARTY.


just like when they create the crime and then prosecute and convict ( J6, all Trump matters, Whitmer)

Gail Combs

AND they target those making UNDER $25,000 a year because they can not afford a lawyer to fight back!

See my explanation to Scott.

(I wish I had access to all my old bookmarks the IMF report is a real eye opener.)


He’s stealing it back from the Ukrainian jazi criminals. Hunter did it…


Biden is taking the money from people who make less than $125,000 a year.


Just slipping this in here….

Jay and Amber do reaction videos out of Oklahoma. They’re good kids, and they’ve been dipping deeper into popular music over the ages.

But what is truly hilarious is what a prog-head Amber is turning into. When they’re watching this video, she’s the one who notices that Carey’s right hand, left hand, and hi-hat are moving independently, and she’s fascinated like she’s watching a snake.

It’s not like she fits the demographic or anything, but she has a keen natural appreciation. On their reaction to “Roundabout”, she talks about how it’s not a “thing”, it’s a “journey”.

She’s going to be dragging him into KC “Discipline” before you know it.


It’s around 10:05 that Amber realizes.

As a side note, Tool is nearly impossible to count. This particular song is 6/8, 5/8, 6/8, 5/8, 6/8, 5/8 (or the other way round), but the 5/8’s keep changing from 2/8+3/8 to 3/8+2/8….and the 6/8s keep changing into some combination of 2/8, 3/8, and 4/8. Carry — whose nickname is “The Octopus”, keeps sliding his drums through this blur so smoothly that it is confusing to the ear. That Amber “caught him” by looking at the drums speaks very well for her powers of observation.

And, just for giggles, 5/8+6/8+5/8+6/8+5/8+6/8 = 33/8….there’s no giant, obvious “33” in this video, is there?


Listening to Roundabout —

She gets it — around 8:16

She’s so much more prog — and more of a mathematician — than he is.


Where they’re going —

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



And so current!

Great music never gets old or loses it’s ability to make you smile, as Jay and Amber (and lots of others, young and old) like them prove, all over yt, every day 👍 😁


It’s only a matter of time before she drops before the reaction video…..


The Mrs. on bass, the son on keys…..

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Here is a highly relevant song when listening to Roundabout, or anything by Yes, at least when I was in college:


I really enjoy seeing people, of any age, discover and experience music they’ve never heard before, music I have known and loved practically my whole life, and see it have the same kind of effect on them as it has on me 😁

Because you almost can’t help but think to yourself “That’s me! That’s exactly how I react to that song”, or “that’s the same feeling it gives me”, or “that guitar solo at the end is my favorite part too”, etc., etc.

When I see that happen to people, it’s like an instant bond is created with them, something that transcends any barriers to common ground like it was nothing.

And it works exactly the same in real life.

You can become friends with almost anyone through the appreciation of music, because that ‘thing’ you enjoy so much and have in common is so much bigger than whatever differences you might have.

You could have almost nothing in common with another person.

Same religion? No.

Same political views? No.

Same age group? No.

Same race? No.

Same language? Interestingly, no, not necessarily.

Then say something like “You know the intro to Stairway to Heaven, how it starts off real slow, like a whisper, and then builds slowly, until Robert Plant’s voice comes in?”

Other person: “Oh man, that is my favorite part, that and the guitar solo in the middle, and then how they bring it all back down to a whisper at the end!”

Let’s go listen to some tunes 👍😁


Here’s another band doing a cover of Pnuema:



You were right … again

RF has moved to Phase III, airborne, bombs all over Ukraine

link to news site – scroll through


Upped the ante. Another pre-emptive move before the West gets further involved, forcing Ukraine to reconsider letting this war drag out and letting Ukraine know safe spaces were yesterday and today those safe spaces no longer exist. In short Russia has just removed the comfort zone from which to wage war.


TY Para

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Had to happen. Ukrainian terrorism cannot go unanswered.

Will be very interesting if there is “NATO” terrorism here, too. Not a good look.


The tone-deafness of the “I already got mine under a completely different system — different education system, different job market, different healthcare system, different value of the dollar — so everybody who came after me can *&^% off and die” attitude is always amazing in its mercilessness.

Never once putting himself in the shoes of the object of his scorn and derision.

I saw a chart recently on one of the crypto analyst videos showing that something ridiculous like 85% of all the wealth in the world was owned or controlled by boomers and those who are older than boomers.

Young people are screwed.

They are growing up in an insane society. They don’t know anything about anything, yet they are fed into a machine where going to college is what everybody does, that it’s not just a way to achieve the ‘American dream’, it’s the ONLY way to achieve the ‘American dream’.

Never mind that the ‘American dream’ seems about as rare as hen’s teeth.

So these kids, who haven’t been taught anything useful in Kindergarten through 12th grade, are funneled into a grotesquely corrupt higher education system, where adults are financially incentivized to make bad loans to children on purpose, because the gov’t takes the ‘risk’, while the cost of tuition has gone up faster than just about anything else in society because of the ‘free money’ Satan is handing out to functionally illiterate high school grads, to immediately be forked over to University administrators, who continue the miseducation.

So these kids go to college for four years, racking up several hundred thousand dollars in loans.

Then they graduate with a useless degree (unless their degree is in medicine, engineering, law or hard sciences), and find out for the first time that:

A) they’re screwed
B) they have no future related to anything they studied in college
C) which means no white collar job
D) they have crippling debt with no prospect of ever paying it off
E) in an inflationary economy where you’re never going to earn enough to escape poverty, much less pay off a quarter million dollars in scam loans

At some point, Mark Levin is going to have realize that his self-righteousness is not relevant in the long run, unless he wants the country to die.

Because if somebody doesn’t figure out a way to HELP the generation that has been intentionally miseducated and then enslaved with an unpayable debt that they can only escape by winning the lottery, then you murder that entire generation — and the possibility of any generation coming after them.

And if we effectively murder all the young people Mark Levin likes to shout at from his ivory tower, who’s going to wipe Mark’s ass and make sure he gets fed once in a while when he’s too old or sick to care for himself?

You can’t just hate on people less fortunate than yourself, Mark. You can’t just say “Too bad, you lose, *&^% off and die!” to a whole generation of people.

But it’s a whole lot easier to do that, than it is to hold anyone accountable who made lots of money on this loan-for-an-education-to-nowhere scam.

Is it ‘fair’ to forgive student loan debt? No, but nothing is fair in this world. Was it fair to those kids to make them stupid for 12 years, and then lead them like sheep to the university slaughterhouse, making them responsible for loans that only benefited the university faculty?

Is it fair to the taxpayers to wipe out 3/4 of a trillion dollars in bad loan debt? No, it’s not.

So there’s a lot of unfairness going around, lots of finger pointing.

I don’t know what the answer is, I have some ideas about holding the guilty accountable and seizing their assets to pay off those loans and right a lot of other grotesque wrongs, but Brian Cates hates it when I talk about that stuff.

So you better stop hating on the downtrodden and come up with an answer, Mark. Because if they have nothing to live for, if they have nothing but hopelessness and anger, how do you think that’s going to work out in the long run?

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Nothing to live for makes anarchy appealing and easier to militarize later to quell the violence.


Okay, but you totally side stepped the argument and substituted it with another argument.
Addressing what the objectives of an education should be vs what is being imposed by the elite might demonstrate better that these elite are up to no good and are grooming serfs not citizens, because they got theirs and don’t give a bleep about anyone else.

So in that light Levin is attacking the wrong element. But I’m sure he’s talked the other side this. Who hasn’t.

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“Okay, but you totally side stepped the argument and substituted it with another argument.”


I certainly didn’t mean to sidestep it.


Mark Levin: “Pay your own damn loans.”


Most of them literally can’t. It’s just MATH. If you have NO SKILZ because Fantasy University provided you a fantasy education — which you didn’t realize and couldn’t know, because you’ve never been in the real world until after you get there — then you’re going to make minimum wage.

Or worse, something like a commission only sales job, because that at least makes a false promise about making enough money to survive, where the minimum wage job doesn’t even lie about it.

How many decades does it take, earning minimum wage, to pay off $125K loan?


Mark Levin: “Ex-college students aren’t the only people with debt.”


No doubt.

But unlike someone who went into debt to buy a house or a car, or some other exchange for value, they have nothing to show for it.

By not providing the education and skill set required to earn a living in the real world, the university didn’t hold up their end of the bargain.

Worse, the students didn’t just get scammed out of the money, they lost four years of their lives for the privilege.

If you pay $125K for something, and you don’t receive what you were promised, most people would call that fraud.

This is institutionalized fraud and deception, across government and academia, against children (18 year olds just graduated from government high school) with no experience in the real world.

Unlike 30, 40, 50 years ago, these kids were practically set up and groomed for failure.


Mark Levin: “And why should blue collar workers subsidize college graduates.”


They shouldn’t. No one besides Mark is suggesting they should. Why is Mark pitting Americans against one another, instead of taking on the systemic corruption that has created this problem?

The blue collar workers shouldn’t subsidize Ukraine either, or a thousand other corrupt government extravagances.

End the IRS, end personal income taxes, return to the system before the IRS ever existed.

Why not put the bloated, ostentatiously profligate government on a starvation diet, instead of the millions of young people who have been defrauded by nearly every adult in education and government who could take advantage of them?


Mark Levin: “And where’s Biden’s constitutional authority to forgive loans?”


Where was the Constitutional authority to make these sweetheart deal guaranteed loans to pay into University coffers to indoctrinate the entire student population with a useless Marxist garbage education in the first place?

Doesn’t anyone who makes a loan have the power to forgive it?

If the government made loans with their own money, then the government should be able to forgive those loans. And pay restitution for four wasted years, and pay for those students to get a real education.

If the government made the loans with other people’s money (taxpayer money) in a scheme that amounts to systematic enterprise fraud, then the people in government and the lenders who did it, and everyone who profited from the scheme, should be subject to nationwide class action lawsuits and asset-stripped down to their underwear, as Karl Denninger likes to say.

But none of that is going to happen until We the People take back our country.

Until that happens…

The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows…

(Leonard Cohen, Everybody Knows, 1988)

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Gail Combs

The Banksters who MADE the loans using FAIRY DUST and the Crap universities that charged $$$ for a massive expansion in their ADMINISTRATIONS should foot the bill NOT People like me Who do not have kids and PAID for our own education.


How Joe Biden Helped Strip Bankruptcy Protection From Millions Just Before A Recession – GQ

….Biden was vice president and Warren became a senator in Massachusetts. The two first butted heads over Biden’s support of bankruptcy reform in the late 1990s and early 2000s, back when he represented Delaware in the Senate.

The key detail is the difference between the two kinds of bankruptcy a person can declare: Chapter 7 and Chapter 13. Chapter 7 is known as liquidation bankruptcy and is meant for people with limited income. It allows them sell off what assets they can to pay creditors and then discharge most of the rest of their debts relatively quickly. In contrast, Chapter 13, reorganizing bankruptcy, puts the debtor on a payment plan, so a portion their future income is guaranteed to go to paying back their creditors. If you’re a creditor, this is the option you would rather someone take when they owe you money, since you’re going to get more out of them over the long run.

The 2005 Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA) was meant, on paper, to prevent people from abusing Chapter 7 bankruptcy. It accomplished that through means testing, making it harder for people to declare Chapter 7 bankruptcy versus Chapter 13. If a person’s income exceeds a certain threshold, they’re ineligible for declaring Chapter 7. The bill also required people to complete a credit counseling course no more than 180 days before they declare bankruptcy. It also limits the kinds of debt a person can discharge through bankruptcy: If they use a credit card to spend too much money on “luxury goods” or withdraw too much in cash advances, that credit line can’t be erased.

  :wpds_arrow: 𝔸𝕟𝕕, 𝕘𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕚𝕟𝕘𝕝𝕪, 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕓𝕚𝕝𝕝 𝕞𝕒𝕕𝕖 𝕚𝕥 𝕔𝕠𝕞𝕡𝕝𝕖𝕥𝕖𝕝𝕪 𝕚𝕞𝕡𝕠𝕤𝕤𝕚𝕓𝕝𝕖 𝕥𝕠 𝕕𝕚𝕤𝕔𝕙𝕒𝕣𝕘𝕖 𝕤𝕥𝕦𝕕𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕝𝕠𝕒𝕟 𝕕𝕖𝕓𝕥. 𝕀𝕥 𝕞𝕒𝕪 𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕪 𝕨𝕖𝕝𝕝 𝕓𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕤𝕚𝕟𝕘𝕝𝕖 𝕡𝕚𝕖𝕔𝕖 𝕠𝕗 𝕝𝕖𝕘𝕚𝕤𝕝𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝕞𝕠𝕤𝕥 𝕣𝕖𝕤𝕡𝕠𝕟𝕤𝕚𝕓𝕝𝕖 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕡𝕦𝕥𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕌.𝕊. 𝕚𝕟 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕔𝕦𝕣𝕣𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕤𝕥𝕦𝕕𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕕𝕖𝕓𝕥 𝕔𝕣𝕚𝕤𝕚𝕤.

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Gail Combs


The colleges are now indoctrination camps and NOT institutions of Higher Learning.


The whole d@mn thing is the “look what the Democrats did for you, vote for them in November” ploy.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!!! They just piled MORE DEBT on the tax payers and the NEW ARMY OF WEAPONIZED IRS AGENTS will confiscated at gun point or KILL YOU.

What those students do not know is THEY WILL BE THE ACTUAL TARGETS!

IRS Audits Poorest Families at Five Times the Rate for Everyone Else
(They can’t afford to fight the IRS in court…)
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Table 1. Internal Revenue Service Audits of Individual Income Tax Returns,

FY 2021

Category of Taxpayer —- Returns Filed – IRS Audits – Rate (per 1000)
Lowest incomeearners* —-23,620,209 ——-306,944 ———13.0
Everyone else —————–136,457,242 ——352,059 ———-2.6
All taxpayers ——————160,077,451 ——659,003 ———-4.1

…over half of these correspondence audits were targeted at the small proportion of workers with incomes so low they had claimed an anti-poverty earned tax credit to offset the tax otherwise due on their modest earned income. To repeat: over half – fully 54 percent – of all correspondence audits last year targeted the small proportion of returns with gross receipts of less than $25,000 claiming an earned income tax credit.

Even taxpayers with total positive income from $200,000 to $1,000,000 had only one- third the odds of audit compared with these lowest income wage earners. A total of nearly 9 million taxpayers reported these high-income levels. Yet less than 40 thousand of their returns were audited by the IRS in FY 2021 – just 4.5 out of every 1,000 of these returns[2]. This contrasts sharply with 13.0 out of every 1,000 of these lowest income returns that were audited last year by the IRS…..

Gail Combs

“…I saw a chart recently on one of the crypto analyst videos showing that something ridiculous like 85% of all the wealth in the world was owned or controlled by boomers and those who are older than boomers…..”


Who is the target??? THE MIDDLE CLASS PARENTS!

The boomers are the first generation to be POORER than their parents! They have had the savings STOLEN via inflation.

This is a chart I did the first year of Obummer’s occupation of the White House. The typical American CEO is not about to take a pay cut, so he is actually paid five times MORE in “buying power” compared to 1976 while the rest of us are now paid a third of what we were paid in 1976. The price of gold indicates the steady devaluation of the US dollar as it’s purchasing power is diluted by the ever increasing supply of fiat money.

Date…..$ /oz gold.. Money supply (M2)….minimum wage…..Pay in gold……CEO in gold
1959 …….35.25 ………..50.1 billion………$1.00………………0.0284 oz.
1974 ……195.20………..101 billion………..$2.00……………….0.0102 oz.
1976 ……124.74 ……….. $113 billion…….$2.30………………0.0184 oz…………0.663.oz
1985 …..354.20 ………..$205 billion……..$3.35………………..0.0094 oz.
1994 …..409.80……….. $ 406 billion…….$4.25…………………0.0104.oz.
2006 …..636.30 ………..$808 billion……..$5.15…………………0.0081 oz.
2008 …..880.30……….. $831 billion……..$5.85………………..0.0066 oz………….2.44.oz
2009…1,020.28………..$1663 billion……..$6.55…………………0.0064.oz.

If you look at the price of gold, you can see how the value of the dollar has dropped and how the minimum wage no longer has the buying power it had in 1959.


In 1976 A typical American CEO earned 36 times as much as the average worker. By 2008 the average CEO pay increased to 369 times that of the average worker.

Distribution of wealth. How middle class is getting screwed.

This is disabled workers vs food stamp participants I hope it shows.
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There is much much more including an IMF report SHOWING it is the upper 10% who had the MASSIVE INCREASE IN WEALTH and NOT the middle class but I can not find that URL (It is in my old book marks on another computer)

Gail Combs


I was warned by a friend that the major I had picked (biology) was a crappy major since there were too many biologists compared to jobs. The school counsel WHO SHOULD HAVE WARNED ME never said a word.

My parents and I together paid for my first years and after that I paid for the following required courses to keep my certification.

Now counselors are sending kids to REALLY USELESS programs like female gender studies or African basket weaving. Heck as friends of mine found out history is an essentially useless degree.

Kids who SHOULD be going to a trade school to learn hair dressing, bookkeeping auto mechanics or other useful trades are being brainwashed into getting a useless 4 year degree.


From my old notes:

 Obama and Education

If you have not seen this before [well they are going to MAKE SURE you can’t see it now]

Why Leftists Destroyed College — Professor Duke Pesta

Duke Pesta joins Stefan Molyneux to discuss the liberal takeover of academia, leftists college students demanding censorship, the opposition to different viewpoints and the rise of social justice warrior culture.

Dr. Duke Pesta is a tenured university professor, author and the Academic Director of FreedomProject Academy, a Live Online School offering individual classes and complete curricula for students in Kindergarten through High School. For more from Dr. Duke and the FreedomProject Academy, please go to: <= [A Common Core free CLASSICAL education for home schooler]

  :wpds_arrow: 𝕆𝕓𝕦𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 𝕥𝕠𝕠𝕜 𝕠𝕧𝕖𝕣 𝕔𝕠𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕘𝕖 𝕝𝕠𝕒𝕟𝕤 𝕤𝕠 𝕤𝕥𝕦𝕕𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕤 𝕒𝕣𝕖 𝕛𝕦𝕤𝕥 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕔𝕠𝕟𝕕𝕦𝕚𝕥 𝕓𝕖𝕥𝕨𝕖𝕖𝕟 𝕘𝕠𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕟𝕞𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕗𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕤 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕘𝕠𝕠𝕕 𝕞𝕒𝕣𝕩𝕚𝕤𝕥𝕤 𝕒𝕥 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕌𝕟𝕚𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕤𝕚𝕥𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕓𝕣𝕒𝕚𝕟 𝕨𝕒𝕤𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕠𝕦𝕥 𝕪𝕠𝕦𝕥𝕙.


𝕋𝕙𝕚𝕤 𝕚𝕤 𝕨𝕙𝕪 𝕦𝕟𝕚𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕤𝕚𝕥𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕙𝕒𝕧𝕖 𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 𝔸𝕕𝕞𝕚𝕟 𝕥𝕙𝕒𝕟 𝕡𝕣𝕠𝕗𝕤 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕔𝕠𝕤𝕥 𝕨𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕥𝕙𝕣𝕠𝕦𝕘𝕙 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕣𝕠𝕠𝕗.

BTW, here is a great site about modern colleges and universities, and why they no longer teach much:

Here is a recent example:

Thursday, January 23, 2020
The Master’s Degree Bubble Has Burst

By Professor Doom

      The student loan scam flooded our schools with students when it went into full swing over a decade ago—triggered by the 2008 crash/recession, when many “no degree required” jobs vanished, never to return. A half dozen or so years later, these students flooded the market with their shiny new degrees. 

       These students were told their degrees would be valuable, and before the degrees were awarded, they were, up to a point. Trouble is, much of the value of a degree comes from its scarcity. Most of the degrees, the common ones, were worth nothing in the job marketplace. 

     Many of those graduates floundered for a few years before deciding “hey, I need a graduate degree to get a good job.” The same vicious admissions officers who suckered people into getting worthless undergraduate degrees simply repeated the game, enrolling far too many people into Master’s degree programs.

      Whenever I look at people with unpayable college debt, invariably the largest numbers come from the poor souls to when back for graduate school, which can easily be twice as expensive as undergraduate, even for a 2 year degree like a Master’s degree.

       In any event, the cohort of students who got creamed by undergraduate loans starting in 2008 are now getting creamed by graduate loans. Word has gotten out that Master’s degrees (particularly in Fine Arts, but in many other fields as well) are basically worthless now, for many of the same reasons undergraduate degrees are of little value.

      In 2014, the 10 year projection for Master’s awarded was well over a million—our schools hugely expanded their graduate program, as the “leaders” running our system lack even rudimentary understanding of what they’re doing…..



All true, but the laziness, entitlement, and refusal to help oneself cannot be overlooked. True, all part of the corrupt culture, and a consequence to some extent of the education system.

But jobs are crying out to be filled. Any young person with a glimmer of ambition can make a nice living, learn something useful while getting paid, and potentially move into management quickly.

Now is an astonishing moment of opportunity, if looked at the right way.

This is the way it is where I live, would be surprised if it was not true everywhere. Talk to anyone who owns a business.


SAME out this way. Employment opportunities are seemingly at every business.

The quality of “help” hired is clearly dropping.

  • NOT dinging those working, high or low quality.
  • Dinging the dummies NOT taking opportunities for employment AND improving their lives.

I talk to or hear about small business owners of all types. Many are the modern kulaks who have become “wealthy” because of hard work and dedication.

The skills they use range from basic (manual labor) to complex (various contracting specialties, etc.) in areas which have become very lucrative because of their scarcity.

But no one can get dependable workers, despite a willingness to treat a dependable worker like royalty.


My daughter has a Master in Physical Chemestry from Northwestern. When she graduated she was unable to get a job because lack of experience, Her first job she made $6,50 and hour at Kelly temporary and worked herself up by taken the next job that paid $10,00 and hour. She was happy when she made $36, 000 a year. Now at 53 she makes over $300 ,000 a year plus big bonuses. She is smart learns fast does not shy away from work.


^^^ Them kinda stories, Make My Day!   :wpds_smile: 

Gail Combs

What ever happened to kids living at home while they worked and paid off their schooling over several years like I and some of my bosses did. Or what happened to renting an apartment together to split costs?

NAH they want a nice ‘PAD’ lots of electronics, to eat out every night, a shiny NEW car….

The area I live in has trailers rented to Section 8 people. They have ZERO money management skills and everything is about satisfying their NOW wants. Cigarettes, MJ, beer, soda, eating out several times a week, calling in Pizza delivery… ZERO attention to budgeting or saving money. Any money they make is spent like it was too hot to hold onto. With that mentality they CAN NOT GET OUT OF DEBT!

The young man I had helping with my sheep is a completely different story. He is working a full time job and going to school full time. He went to a community college for very little cash for the first two years and is now getting his business degree. He drives a ratty truck and has a side business AS WELL AS the above. He and a buddy share a place.

That guy is going to be a real asset to our country.


“But jobs are crying out to be filled. Any young person with a glimmer of ambition can make a nice living, learn something useful while getting paid, and potentially move into management quickly.”


That at least sounds hopeful.

How much are they paying a recent college graduate with zero experience and a degree in transgender studies, or some other BS degree promoted and sold to them by the education system?

Are these full time jobs with healthcare and other benefits, or less than 40 hours a week so the employer doesn’t have to provide anything?

After taxes are withheld, how much is take-home pay vs. expenses for necessities to live?

What is average monthly apartment rent?

What is average monthly cost for water, gas and electric?

What is an average monthly car payment?

What is average monthly car insurance?

What is the average cost of gas to get to and from work?

What is the average annual cost of clothing appropriate for work, broken down to a monthly amount?

What is the average amount of monthly medical prescription or OTC medical cost?

What is average monthly cost of food — no eating out, strictly eat at home and bring lunch to work?

What is the average monthly cost of other basic necessities, like soap, shampoo, toilet paper, paper towels, laundry detergent, etc.?

What is the average monthly cost to do laundry?

What is the cheapest Internet access available?

No cell phone, no cable TV, no TV period. Basic furniture either came with the apartment or you brought it with you from college, along with your laptop PC, dishware and eating utensils.

You have a Magic Jack to make phone calls over your Internet connection, so no traditional landline phone bill, but it still costs $35/year or $3/month.

If a healthcare plan of some kind is not provided by the employer, how much is average annual healthcare cost, either out of pocket (self pay, no insurance of any kind) or something like Obummercare?

What is the average student loan debt, what is the interest, what is the average monthly payment?

No credit card, no credit card debt. Going old school, living within our means, pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps — barefoot, uphill both ways, in the snow, Boomer-style.

No friends, no entertainment, no dating, no nothing.

No vices of any kind, and no comforts either.

Just hard work and sleep, and grateful to have either one, a double blessing to ever get both.

In between checking in on the elderly neighbor twice a day, helping to take care of an elderly relative, volunteering at the local shelter, giving alms to the poor, singing in the local midnight choir and sending a little extra to an impoverished pen-pal in a sub-Saharan African desert town, just like my parents’ generation always tells the story. They tell it a lot better than that, I don’t do the stories justice, but you get the idea.

So when that is all added up, all of the most basic necessities (and I’m sure I’ve forgotten a few things), and that amount is subtracted from whatever after tax take-home pay a recent college graduate with a degree in transgender Marxist basket weaving (probably safer to not actually mention the degree) can earn…

If he or she is not running a deficit every month, if anything at all is left over, how much, and does it qualify as a ‘nice living’?


Canadians, omg, what is happ3in your country?

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OMG, this is not good.

We have few if any choices left.

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Let’s be blunt. This is communism. Arriving under the cover of fake science.

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Climate police? Seriously? Defunding real police to create “climate police”?

These people are fucking NUTS and need to be stopped.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If that crap comes here, what? FIB gonna help install full communism?

Better start thinking hard, any remaining patriots in FIB.


Yeah. Same w military. Following orders does not mean shooting women and children into a ditch or putting them in cattle cars.


They want federalized police forces for their Communist goals. They’re trying to do that here with defunding the police so they can replace local forces with federal ones. So far that hasn’t worked, but now they have the IRS police.


Seems like it is ALREADY happening here in the States.

  • Armed IRS.
  • Armed VA.
  • Guessing we could simply list Most EVERY USG Agency and department.

This is really really bad next level stuff. Confiscating money, taking away your gun rights(Toronto seized some rusted out revolver and publicized it for scare tactic), a cricket food factory, and leaked documents like this. Dont forget China does military drills in Canada.
Theres almost no legal option when those who make the laws are doing this.


“Theres almost no legal option when those who make the laws are doing this.”


If only this could somehow have been predicted… years ago!



“Why do they need this?”


Because they’re not clever enough to come up with anything that hasn’t been in a movie?

This scene actually has white hats coming to the rescue, just in the nick of time. That’s the fantasy part 👍 😂



This one is interesting. Whistle blower case in white collar crime cover up turns deadly. Involves a break in of whistle blowers home to apparently recover evidence against them and what appears to be a police inadequate response followed up by possible retaliation? Hard to say. 2 dead, one wounded. Whistle blower arrested.


Things they do in Ohio —


Pretty cute.


Some good-ish news from NY….Trump supporting, new-to-politics Brandon Williams beat out heavily RINO-endorsed, (including Stefanik) Steve Wells in the Congressional 22nd. Considered to be an upset victory.👍



Unfortunately Langworthy beat Paladino in #23, not by much. But Langworthy replaces another RINO.

The frustrating thing is that #23 is one of the most MAGA districts in America. Why can’t we get our own elected where we are the clear majority?

Gail Combs



Totally agree. Two weeks ago Paladino had an 11 point lead in the polls biased against him.

Believe me, NOTHING happened since.




People like McConnell and those promoting Ron DeSantis would be wise to note this.

They will destroy the GOP if they attempt to replace Trump.

Hear me now, any GOPe readers here on this blog; unless Trump himself decides not to run, I will NOT VOTE rather than vote for your replacement candidate.

Don’t test me. I am beyond giving a damn.


Looks like the Uniparty club wants DeSantis out of Florida – so they are trying to put him in a national race – just like they did when they wanted Palin out of Alaska.

It’s a Uniparty power and profit game and DeSantis in Florida is a hindrance to their power and profit.

Might be fun and serve them right if DeSantis named Trump his VP.


I think DeSantis is great right where he is, in Florida.

Gail Combs

2028 after a lot of seasoning…


I would agree.


Onboard Trump Train. Period. Full Stop. Onboard the Trump Train!

Only place I get off is when Trump stops the train. Yea, UNLIKELY THAT!

IF somehow they succeed in running Trump out, THAT 100% exposes the enemy.


Yes. Trump brung me to the dance, so until he stops dancing, I’m with him.


LUV my GUV – !!!


Guessing GOPe cheering ESG croaking in FL. /s



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Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.


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Great memes!

Here’s another one…..

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That is high grade hopium. Trump ‘sent in’ a whole bunch of losers and traitors- from Pence to Tillerson to Gorsuch to Barr to Milley. Is it the hopium view that it was all a secret plan – lose the election in order to expose the swamp?

I’ll go by Wray’s actual words and actions of his employees – calling Trump MAGA supporters – and especially calling concerned parents ‘domestic terrorists’ – is beyond the pale.

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Hope so…. :8-]


At least with faith in Christ and Christianity – there is logic and reason and evidence to defend it.


Standing by for evidence of this.

NOT asking you for evidence.

Only a peon, wishing for evidence from our high grade military and intelligence folks. Indication(s) they ARE TAKING ACTION…

It is, for me anyway, Beyond Obvious, Action was required years ago, last year, last month, last week, yesterday, TODAY.


Nothing is as it seems on the surface. (Yup. Folks at QTree banter about this daily.)

^^^ THIS I believe.

WEF HAS hijacked the USG, AND both Wall Street and Big Tech In Supporting Roles.

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I believe Q. I also KNOW that Q said not all comms were for us, and I also think that not everything that was given to us was literal truth — on purpose. So “trust Wray” might have meant trust him at that time for a reason, knowing what he would eventually do when he could no longer be trusted. Or “trust Wray” might have been said to throw off the other side.

To me, probably the biggest factor is game theory. The plan changes as the strategy of all the parties changes.

I find the idea of people destroying their reputations and careers over the course of many years because of a plan that was hatched years ago, to be highly improbable. (Under that scenario, a day would come when the plan would be revealed and it would be announced that the bad guys were just paying a role. MAGA would have to be in complete control for that to happen.) I think that weaponizing entire agencies with people who are not America-first (even though the director supposedly is) is extremely dangerous and a difficult pickle to extricate us from. It’s like saying that a police force has been mounted against us, across government agencies, but it’s okay because the directors were just executing the plan.

I also think it improbable that the United States is being led down the path of disaster just to show people how bad the other side is. I don’t think our side has orchestrated losing an election on purpose, nor do I think they had anything to do with COVID. At the same time, there is no doubt that good people are using harmful events to wake people up.

“Nothing is as it seems” can cause us to doubt our own judgment and do nothing — which has already been discussed here today. I think there are degrees of things not being as they seem but that it doesn’t necessarily mean that apparent bad guys are really good or that our side knew, and even orchestrated, the depth of the harm to us and the country.

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Believing that some of what Q says is misinformation–but you don’t know what–is tantamount to saying anything Q says is not to be believed.

Which is about where I’m at…especially when people carry Q stuff from 2019 forward to today, when the situation has changed. Even if Q thought it was true then, why does it still apply today?

Do people seriously think Q predicted ALL OF THIS?

Is Q God??

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IMO the Q psy-op is designed to extricate us from a trap non-violently. The GOAL is bigger than what most people perceive. It is an awakening operation, likely based on empirical knowledge we are not privy to, and which I won’t hazard a guess now as to the weird possibilities.

In not totally facetious response to your last question….

If one truly believes in God, what is not, at least, “of God”? And I prefer to leave things there!  😅 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Your response at the end misses the point I was trying to raise.

Which is that people who think Q could see back then exactly where we are now (not in general, but exactly), are ascribing God-like omniscient foresight to Q.

That’s an error even if there is a god and Q is right with God.


Game theory and/or Looking Glass are not God. But they are amazing predictors of events.

It’s like playing chess, but you can play infinity moves ahead.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Game theory will tell you what you should do next.

It couldn’t have told anyone where we’d be today…back when Q was making his drops.

People who think Q knew THIS (what we have now) would happen today, back then, are ascribing godlike powers to Q.

I believe Q went silent because he/they realized the jig was up and all their predictions were invalid when the election was stolen.


As is your right.


I agree that Q (a person or a team) could not have known exactly what would be happening today, back when something was posted, say, three years ago. And no, Q isn’t God, or a god, and is not omniscient.

Your last paragraph is interesting, and I hope it’s not true.


You are correct. Everything is “of God,” in one way or another.


It still all makes total sense, and I have a part of me which is intensely hopeful, but it does not appear to be likely, IMO.


Quite seriously, asking.

Which part makes sense?

Would dearly like to understand.

Gail Combs

You have to start from the point of view that the destruction of the USA was carefully planned for well over a century. (Think John Dewey and Central Banks)

After WWII only seven Nazis were hung. Many of the rest took over NATO or came to the USA.

Our DOMESTIC industries were destroyed or infiltrated and so was our government, media and schools. EVERYTHING was going as planned by the Cabal…. AND THEN CAME TRUMP. Remember he was ASKED TO RUN.


You have to remember THE CABAL WAS IN CONTROL not the White Hats or Trump. The CORRUPT Senate could veto any of Trump’s cabinet picks so he had to take those he could use to best advantage.

The BIG PROBLEM was Americans were mainly ASLEEP. This is where Q came in and why to this day QAnon bashing still is going on.

The other problem is Trump COULD NOT derail the plans of the CABAL all he could do was change the course a little.

Warp Speed meant small businesses were not completely wiped out.
Delaying his speech on Jan 6th, disrupted the ‘FBI FALSE FLAG’ so not nearly as many people were at the Capitol and the FIBs role has become evident.

Most important is the REVEAL our ELECTIONS ARE SELECTIONS so we get to vote for compromised Commie or Compromised Fabian and not who we really want.

As Matrixxxand Shady and others say WE ARE THE PLAN. The AWAKENED SLEEPING GIANT determined to PEACEFULLY take back OUR ELECTIONS (with a bit of help from the White Hats)

Compare the MAGA movement to the Tea Party and you can see the difference.

I hope I was able to be clear enough, but I am hopeful because I can SEE the difference.


I posted ten minutes after you, Gail. I am SLOW. But I think we see things very much the same way.

Gail Combs

I am just a bit more hopeful than you.

There are a lot of useful idiots but not nearly as many as the Cabal would have us believe (Witness Demcast Bot farm) and MANY of them are PAID with no real loyalty.

Take out the very small TOP couple layers and the Puppet Master(s) and suddenly you are left with mop-up of the fools and idiots.

IDing the Puppet Masters and top Lt.s is the critical part and I think that has been done. RUSSIA maybe the one to do the dirty deed. They are GOOD at it.

Do not forget the IDIOTS in DC left the BORDER WIDE OPEN and now AZ and TX are shipping the illegals TO DC….


Understand all above. I think. 🙂

Oh, I am plenty hopeful.

If I were not, I’d already be at my “south 40″, shut off, as much as possible from the ‘world”.


^^^ This. Well stated, Gail.


It all makes theoretical sense, and does not sound implausible as a realistic proposition.

It makes sense that the gradual takeover of America’s centers of power and influence would have been recognized for what it was by patriots in law enforcement, the military, and private sector. It makes sense, given their ability, that they would have both the means and inclination to formulate a sophisticated (I hate that word) plan to undermine and defeat those forces in the long term.

It makes sense that any such group would understand the formidable task. TICs (Those In Control) had throughout many years assembled definitive control and influence over all necessary institutions and organizations, global and domestic (except Russia) needed to destroy America under the guise of democratic process and capitalist enterprise.

It makes sense because many, many Americans have been brainwashed into imbecility, and needed to be awakened to their imbecility, to the nature of what was happening to them, and to the necessarily evil nature of the people who were doing it (making a distinction here between the nomenklatura and the apparatchik, the later group possessing genuine if idiotic sincerity and idealism).

It makes sense because the battlefield needed to be shaped, and the shaping would be ugly and lengthy.

It makes sense because Trump made it all seem probable. Trump was a genuine leader who “got” what our politicians did not get and refused to get, and had the ability to make it happen.

Problem is, while we were continuously chuckling over how Trump was doing the old Sun Tzu on them, they were highly successfully doing a Sun Tzu on Trump, as they had been doing for many, many years on all of us. And their Sun Tzu was patient, flexible, and utterly brilliant. They did not, and do not, think the way we think, to our disadvantage. They are Hegel, and we are not. Huge difference in terms of what human beings think they are entitled to do to each other.

And it has been a very painful experience to come to understand and “see” how they think. Especially coming to understand how far ahead they are in defeating us.

If I were aware of what was facing us at the time Trump ascended, I would have already done exactly what our side has theorized was being done (with help from Q), including Q.

Alas, turning our military in queers and perverts, for example, or turning our boys into girls and girls into boys through castration and mutilation, ETC, IMO means there is no wonderful underlying plan.

But I still hope intensely there is, referring to some Earthly thing, because there is no doubt about the Divine thing, it just may well be a very, very different type of thing.

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Got it thanks.

As an aside.

Folks banking on a “plan” within the military, may want to consider:

  • Active Duty change duty stations every 12-36 months. That is a hell of a lot of folks, “read in”.
  • The “plan” operating within DoD, would have to be operating independently, of the command structure.
  • Essentially in isolation.
  • Self sustaining staffing,
  • Chain-of-Command onboard / supportive,
  • funding intact,
  • IC NOT notice.
  • Location, infrastructure, equipment, yada, yada.

Fundamentally, I am hopeful, we will win. Failure is NOT an option.

But NONE of the “Secret Sauce Plan” within US Military is realistic. IMO.


Cracking up here.

Lemme get this right, Wray is a good guy.  😂  😅  😂  (Holding back sarcasm.)

So Wray, sworn to support the Constitution, ALLOWS, Encourages Illegal behavior, Hell FIB CREATES illegal behavior. AS IF, doing so will help FIB, fix FIB. (Corrupt bastards, “fix”, is training.  🙃 )

So Wray, masterfully allows:

  • After ~seven years of FIB setting up Trump, Trump family, Trump staff, Trump supporters, RAIDS Trumps home
  • Lying about Antifa, BLM…
  • Create a FAUX guvner kidnapping…get the guys set-up, jailed.
  • Actively setting up American citizens on J6. Lying about J6.
  • Vilifying Whites as Domestic Extreme Right Wing Terrorists…

^^^ ASSUMING any of that is logical to fixing FIB, WHO in FIB or DOJ is going to take ACTION? Indict, arrest, prosecute…

OH, I GOT IT, Bull Durham IS in on the PLAN. <<<Take That To The Bank.  😂  😅  😂 

I may be in the minority here. FIB, including Wray IS FUBAR.


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Putting Wray in the white hat category means that all of these operations that involve hundreds of agents deliberately setting up citizens or raids on Trump’s associates , weapons drawn and all the other oops admissions of knowing of potential mass shooters…..all of the victims, all of the rank and file forced to go along or lose their jobs…that’s all to show us?

That’s an awful lot of innocent people sacrificed involuntarily.


Indeed and they didnt sign up for it so nah.


I will NEVer accept Wray as a White Hat …

heck he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to okay the firing of Hil de Beasr’s right hand for 20+ yrs … Mc (oh I can see his face, his wife took a bribe, can’t pull-up his name – y’all know)



(Oops, I meant, McCabe).


bless you Kal… that’s the biggest prob I have w/ dementia – NAMES! I can see faces, events, and ‘names’ hang me up! McCabe it is… didn’t he retain his retirement? Thanks to Wray?


Yes, McScab kept his retirement.

“Forgetting”, is in full swing with me. There are times I’ll stare at the screen trying to recall simple words. 

This getting old crap sux. Yea, do what I can to stave it off. Can’t do much about it, so I try to laugh at it.


Keeping one’s sense is vital imo 😉 Gardening helps me … and now the frailities of 8 decades limit that … grateful for windows!


latter part, ironically funny.


reading your comment, I just caught your reference! I meant REAL ‘windows’ 😉 I have a wall of them here in the studio. that overlook my garden. (You’re STILL very sharp!


Cracking up here.

I did to. Real windows.

Also works for the other, Windows.  😂  😅  😂 


TY for the laughs!


A lady at my hardware store wears flip-flops all winter. asked her why, and she said it’s very important to stay as close to the ground as you can. Gives her good health.


My wife loves this one:

I cannot see, I cannot pee.
I cannot chew, I cannot screw.
My memory shrinks, my hearing stinks.
No sense of smell, I look like hell.
Body drooping, got trouble pooping.
The Golden Years Have Come At Last.
The Golden Years Can Kiss My ASS.