2020·12·19 KMAG Daily Thread

More On The Great Conjunction

NOTE: There is some confusion about this, and it’s MY fault for not explaining it well enough. Regardless of where you are, you should be out basically as soon as it gets fairly dark, and watch until Jupiter and Saturn set. There IS an instant of absolute closest approach between Jupiter and Saturn, but it matters so little I haven’t even bothered to look it up; for all I know it’s 3 AM my time and I won’t be able to see it. The important thing is for you to see Jupiter and Saturn before they set, and that will be at about the same time, LOCAL, anywhere, less than two hours after sunset.

(The reason I harped on 5 PM my time, which is conveniently the right time for me to start looking, is that the data I got from NASA is for that exact time (midnight UTC).)

You might remember this diagram from last week. It’s a diagram of our solar system on Monday, at 5 PM Mountain Time, minus Mars, Venus, Mercury and everything past Saturn, showing an apparent lineup of Jupiter and Saturn as seen from Earth.

In 3D the lineup is pretty good too, both Jupiter and Saturn are in fact slightly ‘inside’ your monitor and they will be 1/5 of the full moon’s width apart in the sky, or one tenth of a degree of arc.

Astronomers like to denote distances “up there” as seen from Earth as angles, because that way it doesn’t matter how far away something is. It’s easiest to measure those angles–that’s what we can directly observe. Distances are harder, sometimes much harder. I gave a link last time to the story of how the distance between the earth and sun were first measured using a Venus transit in the 1700s. Since we knew the ratios of the planets’ distances from the sun, expressing everything in AUs (astronomical units, where 1AU is the mean distance from the earth to the sun), that gave us the size of each planet’s orbit by simple multiplication. We could then use the “absolute” number giving the size of Earth’s orbit to measure the distance to the nearer stars, but that was extremely finicky measuring and didn’t get done until the mid 1800s. It’s as if measuring distances is a ladder; each method gives us results we can carry forward to measure the distances to things further and further away. (Of course doing this causes measurement errors to pile up, but they’re still far better than complete guesswork.)

Astronomers still use AUs routinely for talking about the sorts of distances you’d see within a star’s planetary system–even other stars’ planetary systems–because otherwise they’d be tossing around numbers with eight or nine zeros at the end of them.

OK, so, why is Earth at the top of the diagram? Was that some arbitrary choice I made?

Well, it’s arbitrary, but it’s not my choice. And it is handy having the diagram be taller than it is wide; if it hadn’t turned out that way when I plotted it from real position data, I’d have rotated the diagram.

The data from NASA, and therefore the diagram, are expressed in something called “Heliocentric Ecliptic Coordinates.” There are X, Y and Z values for Earth, Jupiter and Saturn, and I just plotted them. (It also gives velocity components in the X, Y, and Z directions.) This is a 3-D version of the “Cartesian” coordinates that, if/when you had algebra, was what you used to graph functions. Instead of squares on graph paper, imagine cubes.

The center of this big three-dimensional grid is the center of gravity of the Solar System (practically dead center in the Sun). But which way do the axes point? A choice had to be made. It didn’t cosmically matter which way we pointed the axes, but astronomers had to come up with a common convention. What’s fairly obvious and convenient is that the X-Y plane (where Z is zero) should be the plane of Earth’s orbit about the Sun, and the Z axis should probably run through the center of the sun with the positive end going out the Sun’s north pole (or close to it, just so it’s at a right angle to the XY plane). Those decisions come from the physical characteristics of Earth’s orbit around the sun. But we still haven’t defined which way the X and Y axes point, even if we know what plane they are in.

So here comes the arbitrary decision, made sometime centuries ago: The X axis runs in the direction in which, we on Earth, see the sun to be at the exact moment of the March equinox (which is “spring” for most people). So we are sighting through the sun to establish the X axis.

Which means that at that moment, Earth is at roughly X=-1.0 AU, the Sun of course is at X=0.0 AU, and it is Earth’s position at the beginning of (northern hemisphere) fall that is at X=+1.0 AU.

If you look at my diagram, at 3 o’clock on the diagram, on the circle of earth’s orbit, is where Earth is on the first day of autumn–straight to the right of the “origin” which is where x=1.0 ought to be on any self-respecting graph. At 12 o’clock is the winter solstice (+Y axis), at 9 o’clock is the spring equinox (-X), and at 6 o’clock is the summer solstice (-Y). You’ll notice I went around the “clock” counter-clockwise. That’s because almost everything in our solar system runs counter-clockwise. The planets rotate counter-clockwise, all of the major moons and planets orbit counter-clockwise, and so on, of course this is all as seen from over the north pole of the Sun, our viewpoint being somewhere along the +Z axis.

Here’s the same diagram with the X and Y axes superimposed.

[By the way, how did we decide which direction would be “clockwise”? We did pick a direction, we could have picked the other direction for clocks to run in. Why didn’t we? Well this time there is a reason. In Europe, the shadow on a sundial moves in that direction. If our civilization had started in the southern hemisphere, long odds are that we’d draw our maps with south at the top, our globes would be mounted with south at the top, and our clocks would run counter-clockwise. And the people in the northern hemisphere would have to endure all those jokes about being upside down.]

Returning to our coordinate system, the Y axis goes through the spot where the earth is at (northern hemisphere) winter solstice. Which is pretty much where we will be this Monday. That’s why Earth is straight “up” from the Sun in my diagram.

Which way is Z? It’s straight up out of your screen, right at you. So when I said Jupiter and Saturn were slightly inside your screen, it’s because they have very small negative Z values.

One way to draw directions into an out of the monitor, or a blackboard, which is how I learned it many, many years ago, is to use ⨯ for into the monitor and ⋅ or even ⊙ for out of it. This is meant to suggest an arrow with four tail feathers and a conical head, the dot is the point of the arrow (facing you, out from the monitor or chalkboard)–circled just shows you the entire arrowhead looking at you straight on. The ⨯ suggests the four tail feathers when the arrow is pointing into the monitor (or chalkboard).

One more thing about coordinate systems (if you haven’t gotten bored yet), the issue of “right handed” versus “left handed.” If you use your right hand to point, like a kid making a gun with his fingers, along the X axis, and your other fingers bend towards the Y axis, and your thumb points along the Z axis, it’s a right handed system. If you can’t get this to work with some coordinate system, try your left hand. If that works, you are using a left handed system.

These ecliptic coordinates I got from NASA are right-handed.

And it’s cool that this diagram just happened to lay out well without having to be rotated. Those of you who remember your algebra and “graphing things” should find a lot of this familiar.

OK that’s enough of that rather abstract stuff. Now I’m going to try to explain why all of “great conjunctioning” is happening in the southwestern sky after sunset.

First, imagine yourself somewhere on the line between sun and Earth, and you are facing towards the earth, with the Sun shining on your back.

Or, imagine my first diagram tilting away from you as shown, and you being transported to the big white X in the upper left. Then continue tilting until you are edge-on.

What do you see? Well, because it’s the winter Solstice, this is what you see.

Globe simulating Earth seen from the sun at December Solstice

Well, OK you won’t see all the labels and so forth, and especially not the big metal thing on the south pole, but the thing to notice is that the south pole is visible and the north pole is not. The earth’s axis is tilted with respect to the ecliptic (the plane we’re standing on in our little mind-experiment). It stays pointing in the same direction (almost–it moves slowly, so slowly you’ll never notice). So as it moves around its orbit, from right to left in this diagram, there are times when the north pole points away from the sun (and us) and times when it points towards the sun. This coming Monday just happens to be the day when the north pole is pointed as much away from the sun as it ever is (that’s the definition of the December solstice).

In the upper right, not very visible, is North America. The earth rotates west to east, so North America is about to go onto the far side, the dark side–it’s late in the day there. Here are some annotations and a set of axes in the lower left. Notice Z is now up, because +Y points into the picture.

Now here’s a side view. Going back to the original diagram, it’s as if we tilted it this way, instead.

But if we’re going to imagine ourselves standing on the diagram, we need to make it horizontal, like this:

So, finally, here’s a “side” view of Earth from the right.

“Side” view.

From this vantage point, the earth is moving directly away from us in its orbit. On the first diagram, we’re somewhere to the right of earth, looking toward it.

Any horizontal line on this last picture, points at the sun. And if you can imagine some Deplorable in flyover country standing in Kansas, looking at the setting sun…well, it’s not to the west. It’s south of west. Because west is actually to the left and up in the diagram, not straight to the left, as shown below. And north is kind of tilted askew because the ground that deplorable is standing on is actually tilted away from us (imagine standing where the compass rose is).

This is why the Sun is setting to the south of west at this time of year (someone asked me about that a few days ago, I hope she’s reading this).

But what about Jupiter and Saturn? Well, let’s back up a bit. Here’s the diagram “tilting” again. Notice the diagonal dashed line (I don’t know why but my graphics software turned it into a dashed line); that’s the line to Jupiter and Saturn.

So, imagine it tilting all the way…and that diagonal line becomes a line running left from Earth to Jupiter and Saturn, but it also slopes up and out of the screen!

The horizon plane for our sunset-viewing Deplorable was tilted, some, away from us, but the sun is on that plane because it’s sunset. Jupiter and Saturn are above that plane, also in the southwest, at sunset.

Which, for our Deplorable in Kansas who’s watching the sunset, means they’re still up above the horizon.

If I have been doing my job as a writer, you’ve been following me and understand this, and you can see how in three dimensions it all hangs together now. I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if many here are still confused. It’s tough to do this sort of thing even with diagrams.

But at least now you should know where to look on Monday evening!

And just to put the icing on the cake, here’s a photo I took just as it was getting dark on Wednesday, facing in the general direction of sunset. The two visible “dots” in the sky are Jupiter (brighter one) and Saturn (dimmer one, above and left of Jupiter). Even after it’s dark they will be noticeably brighter than any star, particularly in that part of the sky.

Justice Must Be done.

Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People...Our campaign represents a true existential threat, like they’ve never seen before.

Then-Candidate Donald J. Trump

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

The Mandatory Coin

Hopefully I’ll think of something before 10 PM my time on Friday. If not, you’ll find yourself reading this.

Standard Disclaimer: These are not my notes. In this particular case, though, I will admit to owning examples of all three of the notes that were issued.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

Just two more things, my standard Public Service Announcements. We don’t want to forget them!!!

How Not To Find Yourself In Contention For The Darwin Award
(Nothing to do with bearded dragons)

It has been pointed out that all of the rioting is nominally on account of criminals who resisted arrest in one form or another, and someone suggested schools ought to teach people not to resist arrest.

Granted an “ass kicking” isn’t the same as being shot, but both can result from the same stupid act. You may ultimately beat the rap, but you aren’t going to avoid the ride.

China is Lower than Whale Shit

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

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Sumpin’ from DePat . . .
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. . . then add a little background . . . version 1 . . .
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 . . . and version 2 . . .
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 . . . and a cheery “Hi There” from a happy eagle . . .
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Plain Jane

Test and like.

Plain Jane

Test, and happy to see your thread Steve.


I’m not liking this, but seems to elaborate more on the plan to eliminate meat production . . .
250k Hens Perish in Fire – Royal Navy to Defend Fishing Waters – “Explosive” Soybean Situation

250,000 chickens have been lost in yet another fire. The UK is set to deploy the Royal Navy to defend their protein supply in fishing waters. More analysts are calling the soybean situation “explosive,” even as meat plants are once again shutting down due to COVID-19. It seems PROTEIN is set to be the mechanism of control as the battle for control over our food supply is waged by the technocrats. Christian shares a healthy serving of data in this episode of the Ice Age Farmer broadcast.


I have been to a lot of egg layers. Some run millions of eggs per day, at one location in one county. This is a small barn. And shit happens.


250k is pretty small, unless it suddenly starts happening a lot – which is discussed more in the video. But the situation w/ soybean production nosediving and China vacuuming up foodstuffs, not to mention the war on cows is more a matter for concern.

Deplorable Patriot

They can have the soybeans. For humans, it’s phytoestrogen poison.




Here’s another one about the “cyberpandemic”

The Cyberpandemic has Begun: SolarWinds + FireEye – Anything can happen now

The WEF’s proclaimed Cyberpandemic has begun: defense, power, water, finance, and our supply chain are all vulnerable to massive disruptions after FireEye & SolarWind have unleashed weapons of mass digital destruction AND unlocked the back doors of governments, militaries, and nearly the entire Fortune 500. Christian breaks it down, and asks: “Who stands to benefits from this Cyberpandemic?” in this Ice Age Farmer broadcast.


Why is Klaus Schawb still drawing air in this world?

Why is Soros?

Why is Gates?

Why are ANY of these humanity-hating psychopaths still breathing, when they have attacked the entire world?


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Cuppa Covfefe


Especially when you consider there are 7,500,000,000, give or take a few hundred million, and only THREE OF THEM.

OK, there are probably a few hundred to a few thousand “elite”, but WE THE PEOPLE VASTLY OUTNUMBER THEM!!!

Time for folks to, erm, get Kraken!!!


‘Global warming, global pandemic, global cyberpandemic… global problems require global solutions… no one country can save us, we need global governance and global surveillance systems to save us… yada, yada, yada…’

We don’t need any of that.

What humanity needs is to DISARM the billionaire-class.

They have proven themselves the most evil, sick, twisted *&#$ in the history of the world, they make Hitler look like a choir boy.

How do you disarm billionaires?

You seize all of their assets and all of their money, as a matter of “GLOBAL SECURITY”.

And if that means world war, then lets do it already. It would be better than living under the constant attack by the billionaire-class.

Kill all the rogue billionaires first, I have a strong hunch that would end the ‘world war’ immediately.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Take their money – worse than death!

Deplorable Patriot



But how do you do that?


Freeze Bank Accounts – Seize Assets – Federal & State



Easy to say…not as easy to do.


i would think they’d be savvy enough to move to off shore accounts, swiss bank accounts…hard to reach places


My intent was not to come across flippant about seizing, but I do think it’s not nearly as easy as one might think. Lots of legal problems, if done here in the US, for one thing. We certainly cannot count on even our own Supreme Court to protect us, it appears.
In addition, of course those assets are in many locations around the world, set up in other names, corporations, hidden in ways most of us cannot begin to understand…but easily accessible to those that have them.
And, don’t discount governments in other countries that would gladly replenish whatever is taken.
If an anti- American, domestic terrorism group like BLM can raise $16+Billion (that is reported) in a matter of months, does anyone doubt there’s an seemingly endless flow of money into the Communist Reset?

Cuppa Covfefe

If they are sentenced to be “trap-door testers” or “human resistor/capacitor networks” or “amateur pincushions”, no amount of money in their hands, large, small, or infinite, will matter…

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How many and which ones interfered with the election?

EO. Seize assets.

It is a starting point.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I suspect that an EO will help.


Hey now…our President is a billionaire.

Not all billionaires are maniacal scum-sucking control freaks with god complexes…
Just the leftist ones.


True and I believe we’ve seen a graphic in the last few weeks that showed roughly 1/3rd of America’s wealthy lined up in support of the President.


But take much of the assets of the others in case.


FLASE FLAG by Deep State, correctly called out as Cyberp(L)andemic.


hmmm…plse explain…

Gail Combs

Klaus Schawb and his Globalist Cabal buddies discuss a Cyber Pandemic and Lo and Behold soon after there is the start of a Cyber P𝗟andemic.

Realize the Deep State, as we call them, ARE GLOBALISTS working within our government to install a World Wide Totalitarian Government. So yeah, they are certainly suspect.


yes I totally understand what the deep state is and Klaus Schwab’s maniacal agenda with the great reset etc etc etc..

what I wanted to know was if eilert knew of anything specific re a false flag with this cyber attack…

it’s a real event, is it not ?

even if it is a false flag, it will have impacts.


I have to respectfully disagree…this solarwind cyber hack attack isn’t something that just happened…

it’s likely part of the election interference…and quite possibly maybe probably been in existence for a while.

Deplorable Patriot

I actually agree with you on the meat thing. They’re making it look like accidents, but given anthropological evidence….

Prior to mass agriculture, when plants were added more than just what could be gathered to the food supply, humans were on average 5’9″ for men, and a little shorter for women. Jaws were larger, and the full complement of 32 teeth were present and cavity free.

That all changed about 10,000 years ago when humans’ diet shifted. And there’s overwhelming evidence coming from a number of people who studied uncorrupted populations of indigenous people in the early 20th century who were still hunters that modern farming techniques just added to the problems. Look up Weston Price sometime. He was a dentist who studied this stuff to exhaustion.

Going with a time and location most here know, the American Civil War, people of that era were short compared to now. Women were about five feet on average. Men 5’3″-5’5″. They were small, tiny even, in many ways. Tour the churches in Europe where crypts are, and where incorrupt saints are in glass reliquaries, and you notice how small they are.

So, in the later part of the 19th century and into the 20th, we learned more and more about nutrition, and in the US, anyway, animal protein came back as a much more vital part of the diet, and the population over over a few generations got taller, and more broad. Some “scientists” called this species potential or something like that. It is more likely that we finally returned at some point to the correct foods for the species, even if not everyone has done that.

I went Paleo, for the most part, the first time when I was about 41, and the changes over about six months…it was really stunning. Even now, I’ve had to be hard core about it after sliding due to family not believing or wanting to do it with me, and it always is the solution for a number of issues any medical doctor would prescribe medicines to solve rather than find the root of the systemic issue.

That being the case, and this is just me, if the goal is depopulation, and they don’t want to be overt about it, using the lessons of the last so many genocides due to “natural” forces would be useful. We’re currently going through a redux of the 1918 Spanish flu where people were actually dying from bacterial pneumonia due to wearing face coverings. I honestly think that was part of the mask push. The thing is that medicine has advanced to the point that we can deal with most pneumonias.

Why wouldn’t they try to redo the Irish Potato Famine where the Irish were dependent on a specific strain of potato for nutrition since their land lords stole all of their meat and dairy products from them, and then when the blight came rather than replenishing the meat and dairy, the English essentially just let the people starve and what they died of for the most part in that one bad year was diseases brought on by malnutrition.

Meatless as a matter of everyone doing it? No way Jose. That’s just going to enrich the medical establishment even more, shrink the size and strength of the human population, and cause even more infertility.


For about 12 yrs now we have been a Price family who then moved into Paleo/Nurishing Traditions combo as we went grain free (for the most part – using oat flour and potato starch, for example, as we bake Christmas treats). Huge difference in our health although didn’t solve it all for us.

Son loves it as he is convinced its why he has grown taller than both of us. I used to “threaten” him/joke that if he didn’t slow down in his growing I was going to give him only cookies and cake for a month and no meat and eggs! He would laugh but never took me up on the offer as he loves the idea of being taller than us. So, reverse psych kept him on the straight and narrow of paleo/nourishing traditions as he is motivated.

Interstingly, Americans/Colonists were known for being taller than their European counter parts initially. More meat in the diet as hunting and game were plentiful, esp. in comparison to same economic peers in Europe + better sanitation.

“…find that in the nineteenth century, important determinants of height were the local availability of cattle, meat and milk as well as the local disease environment.”

“When the 13 colonies that occupied the Atlantic seaboard broke from the British Empire, adult American men were on average 3 inches taller than their counterparts in England, and they were almost that much taller than men in the Netherlands, the great economic power before Britain.

Nonetheless, Americans remained far and away the tallest people in the world throughout the 19th century, and average American heights rose quickly in the early decades of the 20th century. When the United States entered World War II, young American men averaged 5 feet 9 inches — almost 2 inches taller, on average, than the young Germans they were fighting.”

Gail Combs

Japan, with the introduction of more meat, (beef) is seeing a major increase in size too.

My Uncle said, when they entered Japan at the end of WWII, the soldiers 6ft and over marched while those under 6 ft road seated in trucks. The Americans towered over the Japanese.

Also I read the Japanese had a really hard time keeping American prisoners alive because the rations for a Japanese man were much too small and the Americans starved to death.


Gail, see my post above about meat…so expensive now it is given as a prize instead of a trophy in golf.


A little personal observation from my experiences with Japanese friends in regards to diet. One in particular emails with photos almost daily..usually photos of what she is cooking.
Beef is a rather rare treat and an almost minuscule amount mixed with other foods. Surprisingly, not much seafood either. As with many cultures, they do not have “breakfast” foods, per se. In season, for example, they will include a green salad, often made with leaves, grasses and herbs in their tiny back garden..picked off of bushes, etc. A few days ago, they had boiled mashed daikon radish and yogurt with carrot paste on top for breakfast. Occasionally an egg and a piece of toast, although bread is a fairly recent part of a Japanese diet.
(One home where I stayed, the hostess was so proud to have bought not only bread but a small toaster in honor of my stay…but she buttered the bread before putting it into the toaster. )
It’s not uncommon to have several little dishes, a few bites each, at a meal.
Point, I’m making…these people are tiny. At 5’1” I towered over them. As you would expect they are very thin and almost underdeveloped. Shall we say that I was the center of interest when we went to Japanese baths! One elderly lady actually came over and felt my breasts!
I believe, only from observation, their diets directly affect their daily lives….very, very few athletic hobbies, for example, and rarely are they vigorous, team sports. Only one of all the male hosts I visited participated in any type of physical activities…tennis. The others wrote poetry, played chess, studied another language, do a little ornamental gardening, etc. of course, they work incredibly long hours and have very little leisure time and are probably physically tired from their 70 hour work week. I find Japanese men quite docile, complacent and somewhat emasculated…diet or culture?
Lots of other points, but just leaving you with this…….the diets also appear to possibly affect their sexuality. Topic for another time.

Gail Combs

I was thinking of the Japanese who moved here. A good friend in high school’s cam over with her family. She and her brother were normal size. I have also read articles on the subject years back.


Don’t you think that’s fairly normal, though. My brother is several inches taller than parents, DH is taller than any of the older generation in his family.

Gail Combs

I will add
Role of red meat in the diet for children and adolescents.
Red meat is very important for optimal brain growth.


Vegetarians have smaller brains
This is a really good article with multiple references. Here is a snippet. (For what it is worth the Koala suffered massive brain shrinkage over time due to change in diet.)

….Since the advent of agriculture, there has been a worrying trend as our brains have actually decreased in size. A recently updated and rigorous analysis of changes in human brain size found that our ancestors’ brain size reached its peak with the first anatomically modern humans of approximately 90,000 years ago. That then remained fairly constant for a further 60,000 years.[11] Over the next 20,000 years there was a slight decline in brain size of about 3%. Since the advent of agriculture about 10,000 years ago, however, that decline has quickened significantly, so that now our brains are a further 8% smaller. That is a total of 11% smaller than at their peak size.

This suggests some kind of recent historical deficiency in some aspect of overall human nutrition. The most obvious and far-reaching dietary change during the last 10,000 years is, of course, the enormous drop in consumption of high-energy, fat-rich foods of animal origin which formed probably over 90% of the diet, to as little as 10% today, coupled with a large rise in less energy-dense grain consumption.[12] This pattern still persists; it is even advocated today: it is the basis of our so-called ‘healthy’ diet…..

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Cuppa Covfefe

Could explain the bizarre ideas of the Greens and the DEMONRATS…

They’re trying to get people to eat bugs over here !!!!!

Only person I know of who would do that was Cal Worthington, when he was trying to sell you a car 🙂 …..


‘The UK is set to deploy the Royal Navy to defend their protein supply in fishing waters.’

That’s for 2021 — when the Brexit transition ends — starting January 1, <b>to keep non-UK fishing boats out of our waters</b>.

Nothing to do with ‘protein’ per se. We are protecting our fish and seafood so that those who live in the UK can have it, rather than the French and Spanish.


oops..gotta inflate those numbers……..


Don’t go outside during a pandemic. Only way to be safe from COVID spreading bullets.


At the supermarket I deliberately walk the opposite way of the arrows on the floor- it confuses the crap out of the coronas.


And do it without a mask makes it even funnier. 🙂

Local supermaket, probably half those arrows and do not enter floor signs have disappeared.

Cuppa Covfefe

Put down some arrows (on the sly) pointing sideways, e.g. at the grocery racks, and watch all the libtards and Karens collide or spin trying to figure out which way to go…


That would be fun. 🙂


Excellent! This is the type of questions that need to be asked and great to know that the CDC has seperated died with covid19 from died because of Covid19

Note: TGP is slightly off in its reporting.

False: 40% of covid19 deaths were actuallly gunshot victims.

True: 2 out of 5 *Covid19 related deaths* (deaths of those who had tested positive in the last 30 days but not necessarily from Covid19) were gunshot victims. They were never reported as covid19 deaths/because of Covid 19. Different catagory.

“Colorado provides death data related to COVID-19 in two ways:

  • Deaths due to COVID-19:This is based on CDC coding of death certificates where COVID-19 is listed as the cause of death or a significant condition contributing to death.
  • Deaths among COVID-19 cases:This reflects people who died with COVID-19, but COVID-19 may not have been the cause of death listed on the death certificate.”


The CDC is taking a step in the right direction by differentiating between died because of Covid19 and died with Covid19. Reporting to catagories seperately is a step in the right direction so that part of the story is encouraging.

Is dying of an accident is not worthy of reporing as died with Covid 19/”among Covid 19 cases” or further division/clarification of the reporting is needed?

Tracking the data of all deaths of those who have tested positive for Covid19, even if they are not directly from Covid19 is helpful to detect long term symptoms and impacts of the virus and is a logical thing to do. Could long term impacts of Covid19 be part of why we see more deaths than expected based previous year’s deaths when adjusted for populartion growth? Who knows but tracking its not wrong as long as the reporting categories are clear.

But we the people need to know if the total death counts from Covid 19 are reported to us seperately or if the “died among cases” is included in the total.

When did CDC start seperating Covid19 deaths between the two categories of died because of Covid 19 and with covid 19/amonth cases of Covid 19? Are Covid19 deaths being reported a combination or only the deaths because of Covid 19?

The CO dashboard is different than other state’s dashboards as I haven’t seen the 2 different catagories on the handful of state dashboards that I follow. Would love to know when the CDC began requiring this seperation of data and if all states are doing it, exaclty what are they showing as Covid 19 deaths on their dashboards?

Excellent – County level data shows deaths seperated by died because of covid19 and died with covid 19. Significant to report the 2 seperately – something many have said the CDC should do for months.


I can only find the lump sum covid 19 death totals at the cdc and they are labeled “deaths involving covid 19” without differentiating between those that are because and those that are with/among covid 19 confirmed cases.

Does anyone know of any CDC reporting that differentiates/seperates out the 2 #s?


Interesting – Deaths because of and with Covid 19 have different codes.

So they have the info at their finger tips of died with/because of Covid 19. Death totals need to be seperated v. reporting covid 19 deaths as all deaths “involving covid 19” only which seems to combine the two categories at the national level of publicly releaed info


It’s cases vs actually ill with covid, correct? With all the fallibility of testing, the number of cases is extremely suspect.


I was looking at TheseTruths comment which is well worth reposting here:


However, I was scrolling through “tweets” associated with the link, and found that neon revolt reposted a link from Andrew Torba, and they, Gab, are looking at https://grapheneos.org/, and setting up an android phone, and it would be free of goog.


https://gab.com/NeonRevolt, that’s the link that was provided. The other link just seems to load the page, not to the comment.

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If you want to do a comment from HERE, you have to use the URL to make a link like this:

Your Comment

Copy the link by clicking the upper right-hand corner of the comment.
Type some text in your comment in the reply box.
Highlight the text.
Click the “link” item in the tools at the bottom of the reply box.
Backspace over the text in the link popup.
Paste in the link.
Hit “Enter”.

It works nicely, but it’s not as easy as just paste and go.

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Found on Gab:
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Yup. This makes oodles of sense.

All these governors are WORRIED.


they outta be


I’d almost forgotten about Brexit, it’s taken so long. Evidently, it’s really happening.


I wonder if those trucks are headed to the UK…or away from it.


This video is from the UK side, showing trucks queuing for the Eurotunnel heading for France and continental Europe, away from the UK. Traffic in the other direction in the UK side would be moving to their destinations, and not lined up on the shoulder of road like this. You can see there is left-hand traffic on this motorway. France has right-hand traffic, and slightly different road markings.


Nice call on the RH/LH traffic. For someone who has driven in the UK, that slams it.


I’m not sure if there is much of a connection. These kinds of queues have appeared before. It looks more like a capacity problem than anything specifically to do with Brexit.


Yeah, everyone wants to chunnel, even if they ferried before.


Thanks, Slowcreekno.


I wouldn’t worry about it. There is probably a valid reason for the long queue.

The woman who posted it likes Obama and is most likely a Remainer and a pro-EU German.

The end of the Brexit transition period doesn’t come until December 31, 2020.


Not sure it is a sign of anything short of inefficient cargo movement.

Have not paid much attention to BREXIT since before Covid times.

Headlines I have seen show Boris Johnson may as well be a Trojan Horse. Apparently not such a hard nosed BREXIT person or is thoroughly compromised.

After all, Boris IS a politician. Expect the worst and the disappointment is not a surprise.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gotta send in the troops.


POTUS touting the Jan 6 protest in DC tells me to expect no real developments before then.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Many people are thinking the same. Don’t expect action BEFORE then.

I am ready – and I’m talking like 1 – 2 -3 seconds ready – for a solution to DROP and DROP HARD on the traitors.

But if it doesn’t come, it doesn’t come.

We MUST flood DC on 1/6.


gotta saddle up the horses…and draw a hard line…


Thanks Smiley!!!!!


“a man had to answer for the wicked that he done…” we need some of that answering ’round here!!

Gail Combs

I was drinking out of a plastic bottle, stopped to talk and had my pony snatch that bottle, up end it and drink it all down. 🤣
And yeah, horses love beer.


It’s like pulling the battery out of the smoke alarm in order to stop the unpleasant noise.


You can put a shower cap over it while you are burning your dinner, just remember to take it off again.


now that sounds like you’ve got some experience there and it’s a good story…lol


Remember ladies….
The smoke alarm is NOT a cook timer 🙂


Good article! It’s been rainy/cloudy all week, so I sure am hoping for some better weather!



IMF Proposes Punishing Dissidents by Lowering Their Credit Score if They Go to Bad Websitescomment image


…………From the article:

The Orwellian nightmare is taking shape.

A new white paper from the globalist International Monetary Fund (IMF) is calling for dissidents to have their credit score lowered if they view websites that are arbitrarily deemed to be harmful.

The plan is outlined in a blog written by Arnoud Boot, Peter Hoffmann, Luc Laeven and Lev Ratnovski. They are pitching the Orwellian notion as a breakthrough in financial technology (Fintech).

“Recent research documents that, once powered by artificial intelligence and machine learning, these alternative data sources are often superior than traditional credit assessment methods,” they wrote, claiming that “the type of browser and hardware used to access the internet, the history of online searches and purchases” would determine a person’s credit score under their dystopian vision.

……………..End quote.

The Banksters lure you in with easy credit.

Then they use that to control your behavior.

The ChiComs have been engaging in economic tyranny such as this, for some time.

The control freaks of the Cabal are now doing it too.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

These people are horrible.


Countermeasure = VPN.


Countermeasure = nuking Davos during the summit.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

NOW we’re talkin’!  😀 


Actually, as satisfying as that would be, doing the Saudi Shakedown would be the smarter play — https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/how-saudi-royal-crushed-his-rivals-shakedown-ritz-carlton-n930396 .

That’s what MbS accomplished in one little kingdom. Just imagine if the US did it to the world……


Welcome to second time in history that US National Debt was paid off! (First time was Andrew Jackson.)

Gail Combs



Bill Binney has a great point. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else mention these numbers, but pretty basic.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I saw a meme about this on Twitter today! It’s not adding up.


That WaPo article is lying!

They’re trying to attribute it to ‘highest turnout in over a century’.

But Bill Binney is right…there were most ‘votes’ cast than there are eligible voters.

WaPo is just trying to get ahead of the evidence of fraud that will be released.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Enemy of the People!


Jeff Bezos blog.

So WaPo is evil X 2.


Lin Wood

Our country is undergoing a massive cyberattack of its computer systems.

A foreign entity or entities can hack into our most protected national security computer systems but no way they played games with our 11/3 election & its computer systems.



Our President is still up. Don’t know how to copy a tweet but here is what he tweeted about 11 minutes ago.
“Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud ‘more than sufficient’ to swing victory to Trump https://washex.am/3nwaBCe. A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!”




Thanks, Evereleutheros.

Here’s the tweet:


Thank you wheatie, tried to figure out how to copy a tweet but maybe it’s too late at night, I wasn’t able to do it, idk.  🙄 


Not sure what to make of this tweet. Will be wild? What do you think?


I hope it will!
We need some ‘wild’…especially on the steps of the Supreme Court!


Hopefully we will have more clarification soon. Certainly he can’t be depending on Congress to do the right thing, can he?


Exactly! 3 minutes ago from Dan,


Look Ma, I did it!

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Haaa…see there.
I knew you could do it!


It is signaling 5:5
Count the number of blinks.


What is 5:5?


Military term for “heard you loud and clear”.

Or…”message received, loud and clear”.


Thank you.


Yes! Hubby just confirmed that when someone asks how do you read me, “Hear you 5by5.”

Hear you loud and clear.


That’s just weird.


Weasels are cute and cuddly by comparison.


So are mole rats.

Concerned Virginian

And we now know that Gov. KEMP was at the White House Christmas Party.
WHO exactly put him on the invitation list?
WHY was Kemp there so soon after the death (murder?) and burial of his daughter’s boyfriend?
You can bet the farm that Kemp was NOT there on a “penitential visit” to POTUS.
Kemp was there for two reasons:
One, give the middle finger to POTUS.
Two, suborn any Republican Senator / House member at the party to NOT make an objection to the Biden “win” certification on January 6.


Steve, THAT makes sense.


Just the fact that this is the coldest time of year makes it dicey.


i think you’re on to something there…no way would POTUS want to draw Americans into a potentially dangerous situation…it’s gotta mean victory…imo


Could it be a combination of celebration and DO THE RIGHT THING? Celebration because incontrovertible evidence will have been presented before the 6th, and DO THE RIGHT THING so the PTB recognize and act in accordance with the incontrovertible evidence?


They know how many of us there are – they’ve seen the numbers swell over 5 years. Backed up by actions only POTUS can do, yes. More evidence pile-on and just people showing up, they couldn’t care less.

Gail Combs

Congress officially certifies the results of the presidential election on Jan. 6

Are they going to do that with MILLIONS of Deplorables surrounding the capital and flooding DC???



In the lower right-hand corner of a tweet, there is what looks like bracket…]…but it is laying down.

Click on that.
Then select…’Copy link to Tweet’.

It has a link symbol beside it, such as this:
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Then simply do a right-click on your cursor and choose ‘Paste’, to enter it into your comment box.


Aw, that’s right, thanks so much. Was having a brain fart.  :wpds_eek: 


oh is THAT what that sticker means?!!
now I know…thanks!!!


Testing with a handy TW.


So, I’ve been philosophizing (dangerous, I know….) regarding the intersection of a couple of things. To start things off, there’s some background — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten .

As many have noted, “the internet is forever”……except it really isn’t. Links go dead. Sites go offline. Search engine results rot. While The Internet Archive is helpful in that regard, it has blocked many useful long-term memories because of current legal controversies. You can be a great commenter on a blog for a decade, get banned, and have all your comments disappear.

Cancel culture can somehow dig out the tooth report you did in 3rd grade to excoriate you for favoring whiteness. But trying to get to that funny site illustrating erotic mathematical functions is increasingly difficult, year by year. It is clear that those who gather and control access to the internet’s past have made “the internet is whatever we want it to be.”

Amusingly, as the Wikipoo article notes, the US has fewer legal protections of the right to be forgotten than many European nations. I expect that would be due to the common (and increasingly questionable) assumption that the US is a Christian nation that believes in redemption and that The People will forgive. Shake the drugs, serve your sentence, avoid bad companions, and people will start allowing you opportunities.

This, of course, is completely counter to the goals of anti-Christian cancel-culture corporations currently slurping-up and monopolizing data at a furious rate today.

Google, Twitter, NBC, and CNN have attempted to weaponize our past. If you grew up on a ranch where a big black rock was referenced by a term containing six forbidden letters today, you’ll be blamed for it — where any hooker’s ass that Hunter Biden snorted blow off of more than 20 minutes ago is fading into the depths of history.

I suppose I have a personal link to such things — I once got banned (and history erased) because I reacted to a whippersnapper who did outrageous things to have me react…..then did further outrageous things to get banned and have his provocations disappear…..then came back with another disposable identity to point at my reactions as being unreasonable.

In the end, I believe it is our Faith and our compassion that should lead us forward, but we are being sorely waylaid by those who seek to rule our memories.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m leaning toward the idea that the right to be forgotten is a FALSE RIGHT, those being phony rights typically advanced by social saboteurs, communists, etc. I believe that as a false right, this one in particular is used to undermine free speech.

I understand that people may want to remove embarrassing or regretted things, and I’m OK with that, until it becomes hiding evidence. I don’t like hiding evidence, and even more don’t like destroying evidence.

This is why I’ve turned off GDPR features, but will honor requests to remove data on a case-by-case basis. I also warn people on this site that I don’t delete things – that I’m LOATH to delete things. Even in cases where I “unapprove” things, I’m LOATH to throw them out, because they are a RECORD OF TRUTH, and I am marked and sworn to the SPIRIT OF TRUTH.

People who are not comfortable with this should think twice about posting here. This is stated in the “Contact” page, too. I will NOT be goaded into deleting things. The EU can GTH.


I had noted that the Eurozone was more “government enforced forget” while the US was more “it shouldn’t matter.”

Nevertheless, our anti-US corporations and cancel-culture seem to make the current situation intolerable. Should there be a “right to be forgiven?”

Mind you, my individual view is that seizing the assets of these these corporations, razing their facilities to the ground, deporting their troves of foreign-born “employees”, and salting the earth where they stood, may be a worthwhile endeavor just to “Get Yer Ya-Ya’s Out” [as the Rolling Stones phrased it]. But, however fun that might be, it would be best if there was a noble goal in mind.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The idea of the “right to be forgiven” does parallel the Jewish and Christian *ideals* of forgiveness. It should be noted that the older America ideal of crimes being fully paid when a sentence was served has been increasingly undermined, and a prime factor in this was the confrontation between realistic sentencing and the reality of relentless recidivism by sex criminals.

Forgiveness has always been easier said than done.

Gail Combs

Forgiveness AFTER acknowledgement, repentance AND atonement.

Can There Be Forgiveness Without Repentance?

The Problem

The problem I notice is that many times Christians have ongoing difficulty in forgiving those who have wronged them. The strain may go on for many years even as they keep trying to forgive. They frequently assume that there is something wrong with them as being hardhearted and otherwise unloving. They fault themselves for not being able to forgive others. Perhaps these unforgiving Christians are trying to do something that God has not called them to do….




𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗥𝗲𝗾𝘂𝗶𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗥𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲

Overlooked in common Christian understanding of forgiveness is the necessary part of repentance by the wrongdoer. This part is implied in Jesus’ command: “If your brother sins, go and show him his fault” (Matt 18:15, NASB). The result of telling the other person what was done to us is that the brother, who may or may not have known he had done wrong, once being made aware of the fault, takes responsibility in repentance. In other words, when that person repents, forgiveness is the next step and free response of removing another’s guilt.

Jesus is clearer about repentance as the necessary condition of forgiveness in Luke 17:3-4,

“If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him, and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him” (NASB).

The condition of “if he repents” follows from the imperative to “rebuke him” that is equivalent to the statement in Matthew of “show him his fault.”…

The Left TWISTS this issue insisting on FORGIVENESS WITHOUT the REBUKE and REPENTANCE.

Gail Combs

I certainly agree. the repentance must be REAL not lip service. And should include restitution if possible.

Otherwise you are a door mat.


that’s the same reason I loathe cosmetic surgery.
my body is scarred from the paths i’ve taken…but it’s an interesting roadmap…I wouldn’t change one thing to look younger or prettier. i’ve earned every stripe i’ve gotten…if that makes me sound like a soldier I guess i feel like one.
i’ve been thru hell but i’ve got awesome war stories.


Pat I wouldn’t change a thing either ! My neck is a most interesting roadmap.hubby says he loves my neck ,he says I am a warrior of life and to stop hiding behind scarves,so I did .people spend a lot of time trying to make themselves younger it’s all futility.i enjoy being old,it set me free from the mirror. I am who I am and very comfortable with that.


I’m happy for you…and me too!

Gail Combs


I have a friend after me to dye my hair. WHY should I? My white hairs gets me help when I need to lift something heavy. Although everyone thinks I am 20 years younger than I am. (Good genes, avoided sunbathing and make-up.)


so jealous!!
if i had white hair I would keep it (I know, I know how racist of me) but mine is starting to gray…silver would be nice too, but white? lucky you!!
but i have been dying my hair since i was 16…never been a redhead tho…keep teasing one day i will go red

Gail Combs

My hair is near black with translucent silver strands that sparkle in the sun. I have had more then one person say they love my hair.


my hair the same color of my dad–dirty blond. as he got older it turned a yellow gray but then finally turned a gorgeous shade of silver. if my hair shows any sign of turning silver, I’ll stop dying it…but the yellow gray is not for me


Husbands don’t count.


I had a gentleman come up to me in the grocery store one time and thank me for not dying my hair!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup! Natural is a good look that lasts a lifetime!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

To me, weaponization of people’s past is the crime – not remembering it. This is the same problem with the left’s war against history. They want us to forget out history, so they WAR against it – to make us not want to think about it.


Orwell’s Memory Hole was not a conservative tactic.

Valerie Curren

Candace’s voice crying in the wilderness!


Love Candace Owens!

She will probably be having her baby soon.
In August she was at 5 months…and said that it was due in early 2021.


With that kind of parentage, the infant may be shredding Democrats before learning to walk.


IKR? 😄

Valerie Curren

Yes, a whole new adventure awaits!

Valerie Curren


Valerie Curren

Unpacked…because this is a MUST WATCH video!
😳 😬



Twitter hath decreed I can no longer see tweets. Any hints as to content?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

National Guard is going to help do INJECTIONS!!!


This seems rather unlikely.

The left is hung up on Cloward-Piven, and seems unfamiliar with the concept of triage. You can’t overload the system once people decide to ignore your BS and focus on important things.


Have read headlines NV Guard is assisting with Covid testing.

If so, they may as well be poking arms.

Me, I have nothing to do with any of it. None.


He starts out talking about how you have to get the second shot…for the long term protection.

He stresses that the second shot has to be the same vaccine as the first shot.

If your first shot was Pfizer, then your second shot should be Pfizer too.

“You can’t get Pfizer one time and then Moderna the second.”

Then it gets really interesting…

“There are very sophisticated tracking mechanisms…uh, as well as important incentives…financial incentives, for those who are providing the vaccine, to make sure they get the second vaccine into the same person.”

“They’ll be much more rewarded for the second vaccine than the first.”

He goes on to say that States will be using the National Guard…not for distribution…but to help “put needles in people’s arms”.


What wing of the NG is this? Goodness.

Valerie Curren

Thanks Wheatie!!!


IIRC, when I was a kid, periodically we, families lined up at the local public school to get vaccinations of some sort. Sometimes a needle or a “sugar cube”. Wish I could recall more details.

Of course, those days some folks had bomb shelters. We had an unfinished basement.

Valerie Curren

I remember that sugar cube stuff at school too. Captive bleating audience!


Salk polio vaccine and Sabin polio vaccine. Polio terrorized the US in the 50s.

Valerie Curren

“I heard from a good friend who spoke to a complete stranger who said she was told by her son …..”


Works for me!

Valerie Curren

Not sure. Here’s a link for more digging


A bit late to the game, but regarding the post….

Steve, are you now, or have you ever been, an Instructor?

Joking aside, you’ve got a natural gift for it. I thought tilting the graphics to shove into the globe was nicely done.


See, Steve? Told ya!!!


Sure did, Stever!!!


Thanks for the astronomy update lesson! I really enjoyed it.

Only need the clouds to disappear now…


Now you might consider a lite piece on how the ancients divined meaning from the heavenly skies when the planets changed direction. (Ancient Inida’s view on such may be the most comprehensive).

This particular event, in coming that close together, is a once in approximately 800 year event to my understanding.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’ve deactivated the plugin add-on that we were just testing. Too many problems right now! See my statement HERE.




Again, Twitter doesn’t allow anyone outside Twitter to view a tweet since 12/15.


You used to be able to see stuff with “Legacy Twitter”. They intentionally turned it off on 12/15. Interesting timing, that….


Can you be maximally specific? Like “I can see it within the WordPress composer” or “I can see it in Brave”?

Cuppa Covfefe

Under Settings/”Social Media blocking” there’s a slider for “Allow Twitter embedded tweets” (also Farcebørk and LinkedØut).

The default, IIRC, is off, so turning it on should do the trick (OK, OK, “Should do the trick”, I heard that from TONS of programmers/support people/sales foks) (probably even Cal Worthington 🙂 )…..


It’s a short musical performance starring Anderson Cooper…and some guy I don’t recognize.

It is touting the wonderfulness of ‘The Vaccine’.

They sing

“With 2020 in the rear-view mirror…and things are looking clearer.

With a little luck…2021 might not suck!
Might not suck!

No more cutting your own hair now.
A vaccine’s on it’s way!

And it’s coming…any day!

And if things don’t run amok — 2021 might not suck!”

There is a big dancing roll of Toilet Paper.
And dancers are dressed up as Firefighters, Nurses and first responders.
There are streamers of toilet paper in the air.

It is truly…horrifying.

😧 🤪

Cuppa Covfefe

The toilet paper is apt…

Because CNN is FULL OF $#!+  💩  💩  💩  💩 
Oh, and full of  🍇  🍈  🍉  🍊  🍋  🍌  🍍  🍎  🍏  🍐  🍑  🍒  🍓  🍅 


Coothie, if I find it on Gab or Parler, I will post it.


I don’t have a twitter account and i can see tweets and go to the tweets posted and read them


It’s from running FireFox with NoScript. I generally block ALL scripts. Since about 60% of security breaches involve browser shenanigans, that makes Casa de Cthulhu substantially more secure.

Twitter used to allow people to read tweets without running scripts from twitter.com. They have made the choice to force people to run their scripts in order to read things there.

Brave will run their scripts (one reason my “daily driver” isn’t Brave).


i wouldn’t even know where to find the settings to block “scripts”…but glad you do.


i lasted 5 seconds before i clicked it off…rubbish


It is an absolute sewer, but until our President destroys it I will be there. Unless I get permanently suspended, which is a distinct possibility.

Gail Combs

Just to throw this out there….being on this site requests that my browser allow scripts from:

theqtree.com — allowed as long as Wolf is sufficiently paranoid.
doubleclick.net — hell, no
google.com — hell, no
gravatar.com — no
gstatic.com — no
twitter.com — hell, no
wp.com — no
youtube.com — limited.


From Gab:
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and of course, more government RESEARCH GRANTS


To reinforce the lies…to get more taxes…and more research funding…


yup…create jobs and futures for themselves, by declaring our future is toast


President Trump calls for a peaceful protest Washington DC Rally, January 6, 2021

Yes we have had 2 DC rallies but this date is to send a message and this one is called by President Trump


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That Meme was from KAGWAR:
I like their meme from 9 Dec:

Also Retweeted FRAUD OVERLOAD:

This is also good:

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That gave me chills. The full indisputable evidence will be disclosed before January 6, and the President wants us to make sure the indisputable evidence is acted upon with justice. The President NEEDS us.


Why do you think it’s before Jan 6?


because I don’t think POTUS would put millions of Americans at risk. when all is revealed it might get ugly–he would ask us to come out to celebrate, but not put us in the line of fire…jmo


You make an important point: the President would NOT put us at risk. He is too much of a mensch.

The communists always have the psychological advantage of a willingness to do anything they can get away with and still sell as “real” to enough people. 2020 has proved how powerful that advantage can be.

Our President can be trusted to see how that advantage will be removed both by a powerful and justifiable righteousness (us) and by a justifiable fear (them) or simply by a calculation of how reduced their chances of getting away with something (them).

The psychology will be changed by January 6.


Oh, Pat, I pray so hard you are correct, because I have to go.

I vowed I would if the President called, so I have to.


I will pray for your safety and the safety of ALL who answer the call!!!


Thank you, Pat!


my pleasure!
I will be with you in spirit…large crowds terrify me!
but give POTUS my love! haha


“Why do you think it’s before Jan 6?”

To provide maximum understanding, motivation and effectiveness to the pro-Trump gathering.

I am completely convinced by the Wictor analysis, that military intelligence has recorded every moment of the election fraud since its inception, and captured it in ways which cannot be denied except by hard core communists, who always deny everything regardless of how undeniable it is for normal people. And by hard core communists, I include many, probably most, Democrat politicians.

So the target will be the McConnells and yes even the Pierre Delictos, whose very existence depends upon pretense based on ambiguity, but acknowledging undeniable reality when pressured.

And if the RINOS go hard core communist, it will be more than ample justification to use force. Even many rank and file Democrats will see that.

The precipitating and necessary premise of the massive demonstrations will be removing any ambiguity before January 6, most likely well before.


>> “more than ample justification to use force” <<


My impression is that VSGPDJT is exhausting all other options before dropping the Hammer.

There are so many agencies – of the executive branch – which are corrupted (DOJ, FBI, CIA, CDC, NIH, ATF, BLM, and so on). They’ve been given every chance to own up, to repent … and they haven’t.

There are so many legislatures – of the legislative branch, both Federal and State – which are also corrupted. We’ve all seen it, and understand that their motivations AREN’T aligned with the interest of We the People.

There are so many courts – of the judicial branch – which are corrupted (whether State, up to and including State Supreme; or Federal, whether District, Appellate, or Supreme), and given over to political bias and un-Constitutional, spurious reasoning.

Once all three branches of Gov’t are *demonstrated* to be FAILING to protect and ensure the lives, liberties, and pursuits of happiness that they were CREATED to ensure, for us, We the People … then THAT is when PDJT has the maximum justification to act.

All of this is more than merely an ethical justification … it’s also a lawful justification.

Happy to see you here, Tona! I wondered whether/if you were still posting! I’m quite pleasantly surprised that so many posters whom I remember are still active here and now.



TY so much and so nice to see you!


I should note that Steve’s daily thread and the site overview thread are both in “infinitely spinning update hell” and have been for a longish while. I’m about to reset my browser.


Things got better for the moment….

Deplorable Patriot