Dear KMAG: 20201220 Open Topic

I think, over the recent past, that I’ve heard enough, maybe too much, of the events concerning the enormous voting fraud, and the sedition and treason involved. The seemingly endless details, sometimes conflicting, and their various interpretations; the admonitions of what the President should have done or should do; and the various predictions of the events of the future and their specific consequences have overflowed my retention capacity.

God has made it abundantly clear from His Word that He is in control of these matters, and that they will, ultimately, work out for the good of those that love Him. Ultimately . . . not necessarily what we may see or desire . . . but ultimately and all in accordance with His perfect plan.

I find it calming, comforting and reassuring to step back, up and out, of the morass of the details of the day and into some of the more basic concepts of God’s Word. So that’s what I’m going to do for today . . . just let God’s Word speak to us for a bit.


Ecclesiastes 1:12-18
I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. And I set my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under heaven; this burdensome task God has given to the sons of man, by which they may be afflicted. I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and indeed, all is vanity and grasping for the wind.
What is crooked cannot be made straight, and what is lacking cannot be numbered.
I communed with my heart, saying, “Look, I have attained greatness, and have gained more wisdom than all who were before me in Jerusalem. My heart has understood great wisdom and knowledge.” And I set my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also is grasping for the wind.
For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

Ecclesiastes 12:9-14
And moreover, because the Preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yes, he pondered and sought out and set in order many proverbs. The Preacher sought to find acceptable words; and what was written was upright—words of truth. The words of the wise are like goads, and the words of scholars are like well-driven nails, given by one Shepherd. And further, my son, be admonished by these. Of making many books there is no end, and much study is wearisome to the flesh.
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
Respect God and keep His commandments, for this is man’s all.
For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil.

Micah 6:8 He has shown you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?

Psalm 1
Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stands in the path of sinners, nor sits in the seat of the scornful; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law he meditates day and night.
He shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that brings forth its fruit in its season, whose leaf also shall not wither; and whatever he does shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so, but are like the chaff which the wind drives away. Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
For the Lord knows the way of the righteous, but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Psalm 23
The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. He makes me to lie down in green pastures; He leads me beside the still waters. He restores my soul; He leads me in the paths of righteousness for His name’s sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; You anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.

Psalm 100
Make a joyful shout to the Lord, all you lands! Serve the Lord with gladness; come before His presence with singing. Know that the Lord, He is God; it is He who has made us, and not we ourselves; we are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, and into His courts with praise. Be thankful to Him, and bless His name. For the Lord is good; His mercy is everlasting, and His truth endures to all generations.

1 Thessolonians 5:16-18 Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

Philippians 4:4-6
Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice! Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Revelation 22:18-20
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.”
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!

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duchess01
GA/FL
Valerie Curren

Hard to prove when courts won’t hear evidence & the court of public opinion is actively suppressing anything going against the preferred “narrative” aka lie!

Valerie Curren

Praise the Lord for this perspective. It would be amazing for some key insiders to get saved. Like when former abortion clinic manager Abby Johnson discovered the “blob of tissue” was a person. She & Bernard Nathanson, repentant abortionist, have done so much to expose evil!

https://twitter.com/3days3nights/status/1340702031099686913

GA/FL

TRUE – the Chinese people have been under cruel oppression for generations – since evil Mao took over.

Valerie Curren

Yea they desperately Need True Freedom, even though many don’t probably understand what it is…God help set them & us all free!

Valerie Curren
Concerned Virginian

Except that, one, Newt appears to me to be just at the point of writing off the November election as “too late to save”. Two, Newt implies that under a Biden (meaning Harris) “administration”, the elections of 2022 will be handily won by We, The People.
Why Newt doesn’t understand that there WILL BE NO “free and fair” elections, period, under a Biden (Harris) “administration” is beyond comprehension — Newt has been a DC “insider” for over 2 decades.

Valerie Curren

I must confess that I didn’t read the associated article so was basing things on what was in the tweet. Sorry for the bum steer. Thanks for the insightful clarification!

kalbokalbs

Unless we fix 2020 election, there is NO hope for any election to be honest.

^^^ Have shared this message so many times in the past six weeks.

Including today in supermarket parking lot. Some dude came up and said, if we don’t win this time, President Trump can run again in 2024.

Politely splained IF this election isn’t corrected to reflect President Trump won, to correct the fraud in our system, there will be NO fair elections in the future. None.

He walked away agreeing.

Valerie Curren

That’s great news KBK. Red Pill Awakening!

Valerie Curren

Shouldn’t simple math be sufficient?

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1340660607142473737

slowcreekno

One would think so. Any situation where there are more counted votes than people eligible to vote is immediately suspect and warrants investigation.

And that red warning text «This claim about election fraud is disputed» makes tweeter resemble Comical Ali more and more each day.

Valerie Curren

is that chemical Ali? Mother of all bombs/wars?

slowcreekno

No not the bomb man, but the guy on the TV that was reassuring the viewers that everything was A-OK, nothing to see here, etc., while the sounds of battle were noticeable in the background.

Valerie Curren

Ah like the meme going around from An American Carol (I think) w/ Leslie Neilson in front, perhaps based on that guy…

looking for the meme & ran across this frightening image…
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cthulhu

Baghdad Bob.

ForGodandCountry

This was already posted.

Valerie Curren

Sorry FG&C, for the overlap

holley101

Wictor says January 6 is going to be a party not a protest.

anonymoushorse

It seems so- when POTUS tweeted that the Jan 6 “protest” he was calling for was going to be “wild” I thought Wild? Sounds like he’s describing a party?!

singingsoul1

I had a thought that hit me as I watched the video. Miller was emotional thanking Pence. What could shake a seasoned veteran of war? What about the practice of satanism within the government child trafficking, drug trafficking, raping and snuffing out life?
Pence a man of strong faith can be a stability for a man who has experienced the depth of depravity within an institution he believed and served in. The depth of betrayal by people you thought were honorable presented themself as such? Selling out the country to an evil regime. Some of this is all bound in whatever shook to the core of his being.

piper567

singing…sorta reminds of Sidney being rattled at the “Rally”, no?
good indicator of level of Evil: two strong folks.

singingsoul1

Yes Sidney ,Miller, Lin Woods all saw something that shock them to the core.
I protected myself skipped over some vile stuff but still the betrayal concerning voting and cheating and who might all have been involved shock me also.

piper567

singing…yes…it al IS rattling!

holley101

Good insights singingsoul1. I am going to watch Miller again. He did seem quite emotional. Q warned us.

I remember at one of Pres. Trump’s last rallies before the election and the crowd was chanting and cheering. He was fist pumping along, but his expression was flat and there was a look of sadness in his eyes.

He knew then the election would be stolen and what this would mean to all of his millions of supporters. And what would come after.

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ForGodandCountry

Excellent video.

As usual

kalbokalbs

100% onboard.

Concerned Virginian

And so it now seems that the existence of our Representative Republic will hinge on the so-called “vows” to “challenge” the Biden (meaning Harris) “win” in Congress on January 6? Why again was KEMP at the White House Christmas party? Were there other RINO traitors (think Mittens for one) at the White House Christmas party? They were there for ONE reason only — to make quite sure the “Republicans” on Congress go ahead and certify Biden (meaning Harris) on January 6.

pgroup2

That makes no sense. DJT would invite his enemies to a party so they might send a message to f**k him?

That dog don’t hunt.

Concerned Virginian

pgroup2
Am morally certain that POTUS didn’t invite KEMP to be at the party. KEMP posted selfies of himself and his wife there. Somebody else invited him. Perhaps ditto if Mittens was there also.

Gingersmom2009

Wasn’t that his daughter? But yes, how exactly did he wind up there?

kalbokalbs

Strategic to get his ass in the White House. Deliver some very straight facts to Kemp in a setting he can’t simply walk away from.

Kemp is stoopid. Kemp’s ego and greed have sent him on a path of self destruction. Kemp dealt himself a losing hand.

ForGodandCountry

now seems that the existence of our Representative Republic will hinge on the so-called “vows” to “challenge” the Biden (meaning Harris) “win” in Congress on January 6.

 😂

Who says so?

I rate this as garbage.

For one thing, the republican electors in the disputed states cast their ballots. And for another, it is still possible that judicial branch remedy dictates that democrat elector ballots be cast out.

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kalbokalbs

NOPE.

They were invited. Perhaps “encouraged” to attend. They were PRIVATELY SHOWN EVIDENCE, enticing their future actions to follow their oaths.

Of course ther were other Rinos attending. What aGREAT way to gather the shitheads, instead of going to them with all the hassles of schedules, getting door opened.

Invite the shitheads for a Merry Christmas even at the White House. Dumb asses accepted the offer and walked into a semi captive situation. Them people are stoopid.

Valerie Curren

I really hope your thinking is correct here. Captive audience, captured enemies!

geneticallycatholic

Thank you BakoCarl for this post. God is indeed in control. I love this song- creation calls – The God who gave us creation, will win in the end.

Valerie Curren

Thank you for this refreshing reminder of God’s glory as shown through His creation! God Bless You, GC 🙂

duchess01
ForGodandCountry

Awesome.

geneticallycatholic

Rubber is hitting the road! Pray that truth prevails!

Trump Campaign Files Supreme Court Challenge to Overturn Election Results in Pennsylvania
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-campaign-files-supreme-court-challenge-to-overturn-election-results-in-pennsylvania_3626145.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-20-4

Valerie Curren
kinthenorthwest

Calif Solar companies that federal taxes gave millions, I think actually Billions that went within months of setting up in 2009 was Obama’s way of shutting up and paying off his biggest donors.

Valerie Curren

Solyndra?

kinthenorthwest

yep—it was so easy to trace the owners to Obsma.

Valerie Curren

nice moniker there too

Linda
Valerie Curren

Wow, this is very near my parent’s cottage. Mancelona road is just south of Otsego Lake. My husband used to drive these Northern MI counties working in oil & gas field supply in our early marriage & parenthood. Antrim gas was a company he used to supply…

Valerie Curren

Finally some good news! These families are especially blessed this Christmas!!!

Valerie Curren

Culture warrior strikes at the heart of darkness I mean hypocrisy!!!

Valerie Curren
ForGodandCountry

The greatest US president was and will always be Washington.

No one will ever be greater than the man who led the Revolutionary Army from the front to total victory, then became the first president of the new Republic, then stepped down with honor and grace…upholding his vow to the nation and our Constitution…to become the 1st man in history to peacefully transfer the awesome power of the presidency to another man (when senior politicians, military leaders, banksters, and the people themselves were begging him not to step down).

Far too many people need reminding of these unassailable facts and truth.

kalbokalbs

^^^ THIS. ^^^

Valerie Curren

Your assessment is Very Sound. It’s hard for people to comprehend the actions & motivations of people in other eras. What Washington did was revolutionary on many levels!
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We are blessed beyond measure to have had men & women of great moral fortitude who fought for & forged this land. The foundation they laid (in many ways upon The Rock that is Christ Jesus) will not be easily shattered.

Valerie Curren

My funny bone is getting no rest this “Sabbath” Day 😉

https://twitter.com/3days3nights/status/1340698065771048966

Laughter is the best medicine!!!

ForGodandCountry

Antfia
SEIU
the EU
Merkle
Macron
Twinkle Socks
Iran
Soros & Co.

I can keep going, but the point is made. No, those aren’t the only groups. Wish they were.

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Valerie Curren

If you are on twitter by all means reply that to the originator of that witty, though inaccurate (as you pointed out) tweet

duchess01

Darkness Is Coming Fast: Proposal To Legally Silence Christians & Conservatives And To Label Christians As White Supremacists, Endorsed And Presented By 14 U.S. Democrat House Representatives To Biden Transition Team
December 20, 2020

By Susan Duclos – All News PipeLine

https://allnewspipeline.com/Darkness_Is_Coming_Fast.php

mollypitcher5

That’s not good at all.

ForGodandCountry

They have a very nasty surprise in store for them.

Valerie Curren

What a violent assault to the rational psyche, this my first watch of Anything Olbermann!

https://twitter.com/intheMatrixxx/status/1340708574587211791

ForGodandCountry

This post reminds me of someone who smells sour milk, says “Ewwwww! That’s disgusting!!”, then holds it out to others and says “Here. Smell this.”

It like asking someone to join them in smelling a gusting fart. “Please….join me in my olfactory pain and digust.”

Thanks for sharing it. Not.

Valerie Curren

So not taking that as a personal insult (if it was meant as such). I was sharing it for the point that the tweeter made. Watching KO was optional & not recommended. Sometimes it’s just operating with eyes as open as possible & choosing not to look away so they can’t get away with what they do in the dark, especially when we keep shining light on it…

ForGodandCountry

No one needs KO to know the hows and whys Obama should prosecuted. Nor the reminder.

Valerie Curren

Fine. Some of these “shares” are more light-hearted than others. Different strokes & all. I’ve never Directly listened to KO before & probably never will again. But I did formerly work in a mental hospital & his delusions would have him as a candidate for the locked unit in a saner world, imho!!!

trumpismine
trumpismine

kalbokalbs

^^^ It says hollyweird is bought and paid for by Chinee ChiComs.

Same for NBA asshoes.

trumpismine
mollypitcher5

duchess01

Ep. 2358b – Message Received, Rule Of Law, Insurrection, A New Birth Of Freedom
X22 Report Published  December 20, 2020

https://rumble.com/vc1uh5-ep.-2358b-message-received-rule-of-law-insurrection-a-new-birth-of-freedom.html

Dora

trumpismine

Valerie Curren
ForGodandCountry

No, it really doesn’t. Sorry.

We already know of the Friday meeting in DC at the WH. Wh would be odd if is these people WEREN’T in Washington for a meeting at the WH.

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Gingersmom2009

Wasn’t that Byrne guy just shrieking something about POTUS’ advisers all lying to him, half of them telling him to concede? Loose cannon, blabbering on twitter. And why the big push to identify these people’s whereabouts? This isn’t a game.

Valerie Curren

If Byrne was saying such things then I would guess it was at Trump’s direction as a form of chaff, but that is speculative only.

Gingersmom2009

Yup, most likely. I, unlike Wictor, worry at the drop of a hat. 🤔

Valerie Curren

Well you do have “mom” in your screen name. It’s kind of integral to the job description. 😉

pgroup2

[snicker]

Valerie Curren

Trump & America, freedom’s last line of defense!

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1340223089750097920

ForGodandCountry

Already posted many times on previous pages.

Valerie Curren

Sorry but I didn’t see them but I’ve been in & out all day with things happening here in my real life, but thanks for noticing.

Gingersmom2009

I’m sorry you’re put in the position of having to apologize for a post. Some people use gratuitous belittling of others as a power trip. Scrolling through the comments, it’s the same BS over and over.

Is there an upside to this, for anyone here?

Valerie Curren

No problem. This is a free speech forum & we all have things to say & share, if we so choose. I’ve never been able to keep up with everything said here & miss out on Much Crucial Info & Camaraderie. We each participate in the digital landscape as we are able, & that includes our strengths & weaknesses.

Thanks for what you shared & I do Get exactly what (I think) you mean. Blessings 🙂

ForGodandCountry

Sorry but I didn’t see them but I’ve been in & out all day with things happening here in my real life

That’s because you refuse to take the time to read through the open thread before you start posting. It’s a habit with you.

Valerie Curren

Yes it has been a habit with me since the Floyd riot fiascos. If I share something that’s already out there please just scroll by. Other times I’ve apologized to the universe for inadvertently doubling up on info already shared. Numerous times Other People have been gracious about it & said that they can appreciate it because they haven’t had time to read through Every Page of Every Thread so are glad to encounter something that is new to them…

With more people seeming to come to & comment on the New Q Tree keeping up is becoming more & more challenging, at least it is for me. It’s an imperfect world & this is an imperfect system of interface but it remains Awesome here at the Q Tree regardless of our different styles & interests, at least that is how I choose to see it.

BB

Everyone is having a problem keeping up with everything. Besides posting things that have already been posted though you often post things that you admittedly have not even read. It is one thing if you don’t understand something and want others to explain but to just post to be posting is being inconsiderate of others time.

Gingersmom2009

It’s a 30 second video. You must really be strapped for time.

ForGodandCountry

Good job ignoring what BB actually said. You do a great impersonation of a liberal.

Gingersmom2009

Is that the best you’ve got? You have been bouncing all over this site gratuitously belittling people for hours. Perhaps BB is your alter-ego.

You realize don’t you that when people observe this kind of pathological hall monitor stuff, the first thing they think of is . . I wonder if this person has the stones to treat their colleagues at work that way. Oh to be a fly on the wall.

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ForGodandCountry

LOL

I see I found the mark.

More hysterical hyperbole from you. Again. The only person I have taken issue with is Valarie…no one else. Nor have I “belittled” her (or called her any names, ftm). Your attempt to exaggerate events is so very leftist and Karen.

And yes, I am a hall monitor of a sort, you can say, and I most definitely “have the stones” to deal with those who require it at work that way. And do, when the occasion calls for it. Which you would know if you knew what I do for a living. You would be a natural for a FA, btw.

Try minding your own business instead of sticking your nose in, Karen.

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Gingersmom2009

You’ve advertised what you do for a living on numerous occasions. I would think you’d recall having done so. Given the exacting requirements of what you do for a living.

When a poster feels entitled to bounce around and randomly bust chops – it cheapens what happens here. People disagree all the time, and go back and forth about it. Scanning the posts looking for a spot to throw a sucker punch is a different thing altogether.

So I should mind my own business? Someone of your stature surely can do better than that. You sully yourself. 😉

Now that’s finding the mark.

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cthulhu

The funny thing is that his nurse was supposed to take him away and apprentice him to a pirate, but her thick Cornwall accent…..well….

Gingersmom2009

That’s way too cryptic for someone of my limited abilities. 😂

cthulhu

*SPOILER: *

*

Gingersmom2009

Ah, G&S – did Pinafore in HS.

cthulhu

The vid was not supposed to show — I had splatted it and put it on the same line as “SPOILER:”

Valerie Curren

Thank you for that fun “explanation”!

SteveInCO

No, it wasn’t that.

He got to play Pontius Pilate in a sunday school play and no one ever told him the role was over.

ForGodandCountry

Hmmm.

In fact, biblically speaking Pontius Pilate was a reasonable man who greatly sympathized with Jesus and did all he could to keep him alive. He even chose the worst criminal in his jail thinking there was no way the jews would choose Barabbas. Had he released Jesus the jewish High Priests would have broken with the Romans, there would have been war, and Pilate would have been ruined if not executed by Tiberius.

So your attempt at insult actually falls flat on it’s face.

Try again?

SteveInCO

It was intended as a response to Cthulhu’s joke about mishearing “pirate” and somehow it ended up in the wrong place in the “tree” of responses.

I do wish you would quit drinking whatever it is that turns you into such a dick about 25% of the time, though.

ForGodandCountry

Stone cold sober, m’man. But I hear you. I have wishes, too.

I do wish people would:
A) Have the common courtesy to read through the Open thread before posting, and
B) Mind their own business when someone feels like calling someone else out for not doing so.

But hey, it’s an imperfect world and we’re all sinners. Each and everyone.

SteveInCO

I do remember getting a good laugh, about 20 years ago, about auto-incorrect turning Pilate into Pilot in an e-mail I received.

And I’ve often wondered aloud as to just when Pontius soloed.

Valerie Curren

Steve you are Priceless. LOL!

Valerie Curren

That’s funny. I’d wanted to reply w/ a weak “did you forget to take your meds” style comment before but refrained…

Now admittedly I did probably put too many comments into Sunday’s forum, some of substance & personal & many drive by drops of tweets…

In my “defense” I had the rare day when there was No one else in my home, not even the dog, to distract for hours. It’s so rare that I get that level of uninterrupted free time that I “squandered” it online mostly between Q Tree & twit world.

Part of me wanted to work on compiling presents & stockings when there were no witnesses about. The greater part wanted to “play” online & that side won that day.

ForGodandCountry

No one needs you to defend them, Karen.

And just like a liberal, you are a hypocrite, too. Just look at your reply to BB above. Sounded just like me.

Get stuffed, turkey.

Gingersmom2009

Karen. Liberal. Hypocrite. And the sub-par for a 4th grader attempt at shade for the big closer. I’m supposed to be rattled?

You don’t address my point (except to the other commenter 😂) but that’s fine with me. I was very succinct, so you got it. Precisely why your only comeback is a few lame insults.

Go bother someone else. And ease up on the gratuitous snark.

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Cuppa Covfefe

Last I saw, this is WOLF’S blog. You’ve done this before.

See the page up and page down keys? Or does your mouse have a scroll whell?

Use them.

kalbokalbs

FWIW.

Have observed hundreds of pilots. Worked closely with, or worked for many pilots.

Each pilot decisive, opinionated and extroverts. Type A personalities. If not AA or AAA personalities. 🙂

Exactly what one wants in their pilot. Military or airline pilot.

Gingersmom2009

I’ve summed it up below. You can read it, or not.

I’m obviously not a leftist, or a Karen, or whatever played-out cliche he feels like using. The gratuitous, juvenile name calling is the same thing as calling out and belittling random posters.

I guess type A personalities are entitled in your book. I found it curious and off-putting tonight, and said something. Too bad.

kalbokalbs

Uh, my bad. I should have quoted one line, before adding my comment.

The line follows.

“I wonder if this person has the stones to treat their colleagues at work that way.”

Didn’t intend to ruffle feathers. Just make a general observation of mine regarding pilots.

NOTHING more.

Valerie Curren

FWIW this style of insult often gets said by that person to females & strikes me as a form of misogyny. Then in follow-up interactions he seems to want to provoke an emotional response to then further belittle one for their seeming weakness.

When you make a great point & get that barb under the armor he’ll pretend that no blood was drawn & have no legitimate response. Reminds me of some people in my real life who operate that way. There can be a level of pride & arrogance that sullies their interactions with others.

For survival’s sake, w/ my real world peeps, walking in forgiveness has helped me cope. Being someone who Loves Truth it is hard to leave the prideful one in their “error prone” ways but sometimes walking away is the only solution. Speaking the truth in love, as the Bible reveals, is always a healthy & complex balance to attain–we press Toward the mark, no guarantee of hitting it in this life.

You’ve done admirably well in that domain & I am cheering for you & thankful & refreshed by your foray into this online version of the Battle of the Bulge. Blessings!

Valerie Curren

I’m finally reading deeper into this conversation on the site, not at the Bell notifications. Thanks for standing up & expressing a different perspective. I must be hypersensitive at times but eventually some of that stuff becomes soul-crushing which leads me into withdrawing.

We don’t really want to be creating friendly fire casualties in the heat of battle do we?

I’ve refrained from jumping into a similar fray over the months in dealing w/ particular negative nancies who can bring the tone of a conversation down. Mostly because it seems pointless to me & scripture admonishes us that “a soft answer turneth away wrath”!

But in coming back online after licking my psychological wounds your response here is restorative to me. I hate being hindered by emotional wounds & would much prefer to remain in the arena of ideas!

So God Bless YOU, GM, & thanks for your warrior’s & mama bear’s heart. I hope these interchanges weren’t too draining for you!

Gingersmom2009

You didn’t have to take so much time, although I appreciate it. I’m just straight up. There are people here that overstep their bounds and throw their weight around. Consistently.

Read the rest of the thread – Steve put him in his place, at which point he finally admitted to targeting you. I’m the farthest thing from a loony feminist, but I do believe you are correct in your assessment – regarding the dismissive tone to women. He admitted it all to STEVE. I get called ridiculous names.

God bless you as well. 😊

Valerie Curren

Sigh, it’s one of the frustrations of being female there are always those type of people out there who are dismissive at least partially because of your sex.

If you are beautiful externally many men are salivating & many women are sharpening their claws. If you are unattractive externally you are completely ignorable as you are no threat.

If you are brilliantly insightful, anonymously, you Might get your ideas accepted, especially if you publish under a pseudonym that makes you appear male.

I don’t “Get It” but recognize it as a tragic reality in this fallen world. C’est la vie 😛

ForGodandCountry

Did you read the part about it being selfish and rude not to take the time to read through then Open thread before posting, or what BB said to you, Valarie?

Valerie Curren

Thanks for your perspective BB. I’ll try to curb my enthusiasm…

kalbokalbs

Beautiful day Northern Nevada. Perfectly clear blue skies this afternoon. Low 50s, walked a couple miles…

Just checked the horizon west, southwest. Damn clouds have rolled in since I was outside a couple hours ago.

Will check to see if any breaks allow a Saturn or Jupiter sighting.

If not this evening, ideally tomorrow.

Gingersmom2009

Clouds here today, no luck. (NJ) 🙄

kalbokalbs

Yesterday and today were practice for the Grand Conjunction.

Monday twilight will bring better news.

cthulhu

They were closer this evening than yesterday. Saturn is now above and to the right a smidge instead of above and to the left a smudge.

Linda

I hope you get to see it. We’ve had almost 2 inches of rain since midnight and more in the forecast for tomorrow. So there’s no way I’ll get to see it. I hope Steve and others will post pictures.

kalbokalbs

Steve has posted a nice pic earlier this evening.

Valerie Curren

I had the opposite experience yesterday. Heavy & dreary overcast sky that was somewhat clearing as dusk approached. Finally in the twilight I saw that planetary conjunction for the first time & shared it w/ most of my immediate family members, who were accessible. My mom walked partly around her block & had to find a tree or sign post to lean against, so she wouldn’t fall over, & then she looked at the event with binoculars–fun!

Hope you get a better shot tonight or tomorrow.

trumpismine
Aubergine

I believe a thing which will dismay and piss off people a lot, I am afraid. But I still believe it.

I think President Trump has accepted that in order to win the war he is fighting, there will be great collateral damage.

Like great Generals before him, he has accepted that casualties are a part of war.

He HAD TO push hard for a vaccine. He had no choice. But I am sure he knows it is bad. And many people will take it.

But he had NO CHOICE.

pgroup2

And in America, people are responsible to make their own decisions about choices presented to them. At least, the Framers designed it that way.

ForGodandCountry

He has an “out”.

The makers have created a poison. THAT is NOT what he advocated for.

And they will be exposed.

Aubergine

I agree. I hope he exposes them ALL.

Modern medicine is a crime against humanity.

trumpismine
Valerie Curren
ForGodandCountry

There is a third option.

Spam.

Gingersmom2009

Can you give it a rest already? Or get a new act.

Or (you know, the third option) maybe the rest of us peons should just vacate the premises and leave you lots of blank space – where we can await your enlightenment.

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Deplorable Patriot

From time to time it’s worth it to just keep scrolling.

For everyone’s sake.

Thank you.

Gingersmom2009

When another poster, who is bedrock here, was being gratuitously hounded and belittled – I chose to call attention to it. Is it that some people carry more weight, and with that comes privilege? I’ll be sure to view it from that perspective going forward.

Deplorable Patriot

Lets put it this way some people aren’t going to change.

ForGodandCountry

IMHO it is both rude and selfish to refuse to read the Open thread before posting. Moreover, I am not the only one who takes issue with how Valarie spams the Open thread. And I would gladly just scroll on by, except that it takes several minutes for a page to load thanks to how Valarie chooses to post. These are legitimate issues.

I appreciate your tactfully asking this other person to butt out. I have preciously attempted to ask Valarie quite nicely, IMHO, to modify how she posts and to read through the Open before posting…in an attempt to keep the Open from being spammed. She offered up a bunch of excuses for her selfishness and keep right on.

Now she is attempting to spin this into a narrative of one of poor, little innocent female poster being put upon by a misogynist….which, in fact, is misandry. She even referred to herself as a loony feminist in order to allow herself to deny it.

I reiterate, the issue here is Valarie and her postings.

Just my take. Saw your post and decided to say something instead of just scrolling on by.

Btw, Steve calling me a drunk was way the fuck out of line, but I’ve come to expect that out of that single, beta soy boy who tries so hard to curry online favor with the anonymous, married females here. He never misses the chance, does he?

ForGodandCountry

Apologies. It is Gingersmom who I was referring to in the 3rd para. above, not Valarie.

Deplorable Patriot

Single beta soy boy?

Good thing I live with black coffee drinking men who don’t care who they insult when they talk. I might think differently than I do.

Deplorable Patriot

Although…not publishing the thought about married others.

Gingersmom2009

“I do wish you would quit drinking whatever it is that turns you into such a dick 25% of the time, though.”

Quote from a Steve comment within the thread at around midnight. I’m not the only one who notices things.

Deplorable Patriot

Usually I scroll through this stuff. Not worth the heartburn

Deplorable Patriot

Actually most of us notice it. We just choose to ignore it.

Gingersmom2009

I’ve had a nice chat back and forth with VC. She gets it, as do I. Anything else I’m tuning out.

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Valerie Curren

There are probably even more options if we dig hard enough 🙂

ForGodandCountry

Not in your case. 🙂

pgroup2

Uh, IIRC George Washington crossed the river on 12/24/1776.

Valerie Curren

I think you’re right!

SteveInCO

But he isn’t.

The troops crossed on the night of the 25th/26th, and the battle in Trenton was on the morning of the 26th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trenton

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Valerie Curren

Thanks Steve

SteveInCO

Sorry, go look it up.

He crossed the night of the 25th/26th. The actual battle in Trenton was therefore on the 26th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trenton

trumpismine

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Nor'easter

I debated whether or not the post this, as it is unverified, and caused a bit of a stir over at 8kun… And decided to go ahead and post it with this caveat : SALT TO TASTE

(lots of questions surrounding this… At the top is why wouldn’t Q post this with his trip code ?… And will he post to either verify or debunk ??!) :

Anonymous  12/20/20 (Sun) 17:14:326d8dc0  No.12108004 >>12108029 >>12108032 >>12108037 >>12108072 >>12108077 >>12108086 >>12108090 >>12108117 >>12108118 >>12108132 >>12108134>>12108138 >>12108139 >>12108140 >>12108141 >>12108144 >>12108154 >>12108158 >>12108164 >>12108165 >>12108166 >>12108168 >>12108169 >>12108171 >>12108173 >>12108176 >>12108186 >>12108201>>12108209 >>12108211 >>12108221 >>12108222 >>12108223 >>12108227 >>12108229 >>12108231 >>12108251 >>12108254 >>12108267 >>12108268 >>12108273 >>12108274 >>12108275 >>12108281 >>12108287 >>12108298>>12108302 >>12108303 >>12108307 >>12108327 >>12108364 >>12108372 >>12108379 >>12108407 >>12108422 >>12108426 >>12108427 >>12108447 >>12108475 >>12108483 >>12108497 >>12108501 >>12108508>>12108519 >>12108534 >>12108609
Dear Patriots,
Some of you may recognize my name. I have daily briefings with POTUS and have posted here before a handful of times as a “helper”.
What I’m about to disclose is the most important post you’ll read before the inauguration. Q will not post here again, at least not for a while. The operation is ongoing but must run silent at this point. Once we wind down you will not hear from Q again. Don’t let this worry or upset you.
We are in perhaps the most critical juncture of American history. POTUS is fully aware of the gravity of this time period. We have prepared from before 2015 for this exact moment. I am not asking for faith in us. Q should have already used logic, reason, and multiple proofs to establish our credibility.
What happens this week will change history. We are asking you for now to stay in your homes and do not under any circumstances interfere with the operation. You’ll soon see things unfold that many would think impossible. POTUS is insulated and 100% safe. Our plan is almost complete. The DS has already lost. Everything you’re seeing in the MSM and on Twitter is a last ditch attempt. Why has Kamala not yet left the senate? Where is Joe? Where is Joe really? Hunter has turned himself in.
We asked you at the beginning to prepare. Your role is crucial and your task is to help the population deal with what is about to be revealed. Those patriots who have been here from the start will understand and recognize this directive.
Remember, it is always darkest before the dawn. Do not believe the MSM over the next week. Do not for a single minute give them any credence. We have legally won this election and what comes next is the greatest mop up job in the history of the world.
Patriots, we thank you. We could not have gotten here without you. Now is our time. Hold the line.
You will receive no further messages on this channel from us until the operation is over. At that point, the entire world will know.
Thank you and God bless. Pray for us, POTUS, and the United States of America. We are in the most dangerous phase and the stakes could not be higher.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof – text, media, or otherwise – do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

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Source:

https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/12107803.html

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Only ime will tell…

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Wolf Moon

Hi! This was stuck in moderation after I got shut down. Real? Fake? Let every single one decide!

Merry Christmas, all – “Santa Clause” presents real or just hope! 😉

Nor'easter

(” Let’s see what happens…”)
😉

mollypitcher5

Like the para military blm/antifa…………….. the “civilian security” force that obama wanted

ForGodandCountry

We will be coming after Antifa.

Take out a 2nd mortgage, then take the $$ and bet it. All of it.

Valerie Curren

Wasn’t similar fear for themselves/families what is being blamed for the SCOTUS cowardice on the Texas case?

Valerie Curren

this is explosive…but is it a good tip?

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Donna M Freeman

@DMFreeman777
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7h

@senatemajldr
is in bed with CCP and shipment industry due to wife CHOW family. So the sooner @realDonaldTrump
is removed, the more he likes it. I recommend check storage ports Obama let CHINA have unchecked for explosives activated by remote!!! TIME for AGGRESSIVE ACTION NOW!
https://twitter.com/DMFreeman777/status/1340707779116290050.

Valerie Curren

I thought the Clinton’s made such deals with China for a port, at least, in California. Chi-coms have had their Fangs 😉 in the political leadership in America for a couple generations now!

kalbokalbs

Me thinks President Trump is well versed in who owns and operates our ports.

IIRC, early Presuident Trump administration, Chinee were made to sell ownership of Long Beach port.

Valerie Curren

That’s good news on Long Beech. Was that the Clinton era sell out or Obama or something else? Funny but recently I saw that China had it’s eyes on some port in Georgia crucial for their world domination dreams (not obviously stated thusly elsewhere).

kalbokalbs

hussein as I recall.

ChiComs will NOT get into another US port with President Trump.

Valerie Curren

Thanks KBK. Trump is The Wall in many ways.

scott467

New article up at Political Moonshine:

Who’s In Your Ear? (Video)
December 20, 2020

https://politicalmoonshine.com/2020/12/20/whos-in-your-ear-video/

ForGodandCountry

My disgust with these people keeps finding news depths.

😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/20/jumping-ju-ju-bones-congress-agrees-to-2-3-trillion-spending-package-900-billion-covid-bailout-plus-1-4-trillion-omnibus-spending/#more-206320

SD is absolutely, 100% correct on this.

ForGodandCountry

“Rules for thee but not for me!”

You are slime to these people.

Dr. Birx Ignores Her Own Rules For Thanksgiving Gathering

https://apnews.com/article/travel-pandemics-only-on-ap-delaware-thanksgiving-52810c22488fff7e6bb70746bdc9bc61?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

scott467

She is a pig of a human being, like all tyrants.

mollypitcher5

Her lengthy explanation is so freaking hypocritical and condescending.

She knows. It’s not necessary to follow the edicts. She knows.

ForGodandCountry

An interesting article from the American Institute for Economic Research (AIER) is gaining increased attention as questions about asymptomatic spread of COVID-19, the baseline for all COVID mitigation, is being reconciled with the latest tracing data.

COVID-19 Study of Almost Ten Million Finds No Evidence of Asymptomatic Spread, Media Quiet

Asymptomatic Spread Revisited

https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/

Valerie Curren

This Medium article does a great job of explaining some of the absurdity too:

ium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809

scott467

Here are more insubordinate traitors in our military:

https://populist.press/us-army-responds-to-using-martial-law-on-election-fraud/

“Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn’s Newsmax TV remarks on President Donald Trump weighing “martial law” and “military capabilities” amid election fraud has forced U.S. Army leaders to issue a statement Friday rejecting that consideration.

“There is no role for the U.S. military in determining the outcome of an American election,” Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy and Army chief of staff Gen. James McConville wrote in a joint statement Friday.

The statement echoed one by Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley before the election.”

___________

Here’s a news flash for the traitor scum in leadership positions of our military. You are NOT in the decision-making loop. You are SUBORDINATE to the Commander in Chief, who has access to information YOU do NOT have.

So you can’t KNOW whether there is a ‘role’ for the U.S. military in determining the outcome of an American election or not — but you ‘feel’ completely empowered to go out in public and attempt to usurp the Authority of your Commander in Chief?

What wicked servants and unjust stewards…

And thanks for exposing yourselves… ‘preciate it. 👍

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pgroup2

“forced”??? Like with a .45 held to the temple?

I think the word ‘opportunity’ fits better.

kalbokalbs

100%, “forced is not appropriate. Respectfully, nor is opportunity.

Insubordinate for starters.

At the right moment Miley and his ignorant followers WILL BE very publicly humiliated and fired. They earned it.

para59r

I guess we’re are to assume these military leaders are okay with foreign influence in our election and that they should have no role in uncovering it. Yeah, that’s not a good branch to walk out on to. They might want to just keep their mouths shut and wait for orders to come down. If they feel they need to quit their jobs after they know know the essential elements of information (Who What When Where, Why and How) they are free to do so. This getting out front in the public about decisions not theirs to make is getting old and is borderline treasonous.

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SteveInCO

Some success.
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Had I had my telescope with me, I am sure they would already be close enough for the same field of view.

SteveInCO

If you look up and left from Jupiter, 10:30 there is a very very slightly lighter patch (you might need to move the browser window around on your screen to see it because it’s fainter than screen smudges often are). That’s one of the moons of Jupiter.

Focus wasn’t tack sharp, or more likely atmospheric crud was causing problems. I can’t see this to focus it though (it’s a big time blowup of what would otherwise be a black rectangle).

ForGodandCountry

Wow. You even got Saturn’s rings!!!

Well done! Well done, indeed.

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Deplorable Patriot

Awesome. We could see the two dots in the sky last night. It fascinated the males around here for about fifteen seconds.

duchess01
duchess01
Valerie Curren

I hope this catches Steve’s eye…

We were able to catch a view of “the Christmas Star” tonight after the heavily overcast cleared up: myself, my 3 sons to whom I showed it, & my mom who I explained how to see it. Not sure if my husband saw it or not on his backpacking/camping adventure but I gave him the info, as best as I understood it, near sunset so he had the opportunity.

Thanks for all the info on this event that you’ve shared lately which helped us to locate & understand better what was being seen!

Also, I ran across a term in a book I finished today that made me think of you, & hope this will be “new” to you, but kind of doubt it with your eclectic & in-depth interests.

From the glossary, p 137:

Archaeoastronomy refers to the study of sky-watching by ancient peoples, and how their interpretation of activity in the sky affected their cultures. It is useful in studying the meaning and origin of huge labyrinths, such as those at Nazca in Peru or Glastonbury Tor in Somerset, which can only be seen in their entirety from above.

From The Maze: A Labyrinthine Compendium, A journey through the world’s most beguiling mazes. by Angus Hyland & Kendra Wilson, Illustrations by Thibaud Herem

You also came to mind in this line from page 133 “This way, the House of God can be sidestepped on the path to enlightenment.”

Blessings!

Here’s one of the Nazca, Peru images:
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& here’s a view of Glastonbury Tor
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SteveInCO

Yes, the clouds cleared away (I just posted a picture).

I honestly can’t see Saturn with my naked eye, Jupiter is much brighter and blows it away and my eyes are too damn middle-aged.

Valerie Curren

I’ll have to look for your picture!!! I was literally watching the clouds roll back here in Detroit. There was heavy but striated cloud cover but underneath an orange sherbet & peach Bellini sunset. The moon was keeping the tops of the clouds nearly glowing white while the bottoms were heavy gray. The minimal breaks between clouds above the sunset showed a light baby blue sky still.

I sang a number of scripture-based worship songs & it “felt” like the Lord was rolling back the darkness to let His Light shine through. Later the “star” was visible in a still colorful sky & was a joy to see.

The planets described in CS Lewis’ Prince Caspian came to mind & while searching for the pertinent quotes found this beautiful & thought provoking essay! Tarva & Alambil in the 1st paragraph & mentioned near the end of the essay were what came to mind. This essay goes into so much more depth than PC, a “children’s” book 🙂

Prince Caspian and the Planets
Prince Caspian and the PlanetsPrince Caspian is woken by his tutor, Dr. Cornelius, in the middle of the night and taken up a dark stairway to the top of a tower. There he sees the conjunction of two planets: “Tarva, the Lord of Victory, salutes Alambil, the Lady of Peace.” According to Dr Cornelius, “Their meeting is fortunate and means some great good for the sad realm of Narnia.”

It’s a memorable moment from the second of C.S. Lewis’s Chronicles of Narnia and I understand that this scene will take a very prominent place in the new feature film version of Prince Caspian, to be released on May 16.

C.S. Lewis was fascinated by the planets. When he was about the age that Prince Caspian is in this story he found that the idea of other planets exercised upon him “a peculiar, heady attraction.” As a boy he used to talk with his Uncle Gussie about astronomy and became interested in “the whole planetary idea as a mythology.” One of the earliest short stories he wrote was entitled “To Mars and Back” and the first poem he ever published was about Saturn and Jupiter. He had a telescope on the balcony of his bedroom and enjoyed visiting the local observatory. In his thirties he published a long poem called “The Planets” which explains, in great detail, the qualities of the seven heavens as understood by medieval cosmology. This was a precursor to three novels that he wrote on the theme of interplanetary adventure, usually called the Ransom Trilogy or the Cosmic Trilogy. Some critics call it the Space Trilogy, but this is a mistake. Lewis’s whole point in these novels is that ‘space’ is the wrong word. What envelops the Earth is not “empty space” but “the heavens”, – a cosmos ordered and structured. The Greek word ‘cosm’ means to organize, to arrange, to embellish. As cosmetics help bring out the shape and beauty of the human face, so cosmologists help bring out the shape and beauty of the universe.

At least, that is what cosmologists used to do, Lewis thought. As a scholar of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, he was intimately acquainted with the revolution in cosmological thought brought about by the Polish astronomer, Nicolaus Copernicus. In 1543, Copernicus published his epoch-making work On the Revolutions of the Celestial Bodies, in which he argued that the Sun was central, not the Earth. Lewis’s magnum opus, English Literature in the Sixteenth Century (part of the multi-volume Oxford History of English Literature, – or “O Hell!”, as Lewis nicknamed it), begins with a lengthy discussion of this ‘new astronomy’. Lewis accepted the scientific advance brought about by Copernicus’s theory; he recognized it as a great gain in human knowledge. But he also felt that it had been accompanied by certain kinds of loss, – a loss of belief in the symbolic and spiritual qualities associated with the old, pre-Copernican cosmos. The universe had become disenchanted. Stars and planets were now regarded as nothing more than large balls of rock and flaming gas. Gas, Lewis thought, is what the stars are made of; it is not what they are. Properly understood, the stars are messengers of divine artistry and creativity. “The heavens are telling the glory of God”, as the nineteenth psalm puts it, – that psalm which Lewis considered the greatest poem in the psalter and one of the finest lyrics in the world.

The OHEL volume took Lewis 15 years to write and when it was finally published in 1954 he remarked that it had been “the top tune” in his mind during all that time. The other books he published in that period were just “the little twiddly bits”, minor ornamental details, musical grace notes, so to speak.

One of these incidental works was Prince Caspian: The Return to Narnia (1951). Lewis wrote it, like he wrote all seven Narnia Chronicles, so that it would embody and express the qualities of one of the seven medieval planets (those planets which give us the names of the days of the week). Prince Caspian is his Mars book. In brief, there are two main reasons why this is so.

The first reason has to do with the fact that Mars is associated with war. The four Pevensie children find that they have arrived in Narnia ‘in the middle of a war.’ The war in question is ‘the Great War of Deliverance,’ as it is referred to in a later Chronicle, or simply the ‘Civil War’ in Lewis’s ‘Outline of Narnian History.’ It is ‘a real war to drive Miraz out of Narnia’ and restore the kingdom to Caspian. At the start of the story he is hardly aware of the Martial spirit which is already abroad. When Glenstorm, the centaur, ask him, “When is the battle to be joined?”, Caspian replies that he had “not been thinking of a war.” Glenstorm informs him that the omens are good: the planets foretell success. Nerved for the fight, Caspian begins to think it ‘quite possible that they might win a war and quite certain that they must wage one,’ so he convenes a “Council of War.” The Council authorizes action and Caspian leads the skirmishing forces as they engage the usurper’s army. Peter challenges Miraz to “monomachy.” Miraz is killed, not by Peter as it turns out, but by one of his own men, Glozelle, after which “full battle” is joined.

The combatants in this final battle include the Narnian trees, and this is the second main reason why Prince Caspian is a Martial story. Mars was not always and only a god of war (Mars Gradivus); he was originally a vegetation deity, associated with trees and forests. He was known in this capacity as Mars Silvanus, which is why Lewis puts “Silvans” into his cast in this story (they never again appear in other Narnia books). The month of March, when the trees come back to life after winter, is named for Mars; and it is interesting that the only Narnian month ever named in the Chronicles is “Greenroof”, during which all the events of Prince Caspian take place.
Trees and vegetation of all kinds are everywhere in this tale. Caspian comes from a race “who cut down trees wherever they could and were at war with all living things”; Trufflehunter laments that they cannot “wake the spirits of these trees,” for “once the Trees moved in anger, our enemies would go mad with fright”; Lucy tries, and fails, to wake the trees; Aslan’s How now stands in the middle of “the Great Woods” and there Caspian’s army must flee. The theme reaches its climax when the ‘”Awakened Trees” plunge through the ranks of Peter’s army and pursue the evil Telmarines, like Birnam Wood come to Dunsinane in Macbeth. At this moment, Mars Gradivus and Mars Silvanus unite:

Have you ever stood at the edge of a great wood on a high ridge when a wild south-wester broke over it in full fury on an autumn evening? Imagine that sound. And then imagine that the wood, instead of being fixed to one place, was rushing at you; and was no longer trees but huge people; yet still like trees because their long arms waved like branches and their heads tossed and leaves fell round them in showers.

At the sight of this onslaught, the Telmarines “flung down their weapons, shrieking, ‘The Wood! The Wood! The end of the world!’” In the final chapter, at night, the trees come forward, throwing off spare strands and fingers, to form a great woodland bonfire, cleansing themselves, as it were, of the battle and restoring Narnia to its proper, “divinely comfortable” state. Tarva, Lord of victory, has indeed saluted Alambil, the Lady of peace.

So what? Why did Lewis create the world and the story of this second Narnia Chronicle out of Martial imagery? Partly to reacquaint his readers with the tradition of chivalry, which he felt was so in need of rehabilitation. But, more profoundly, to portray a world in which there is a symbolic harmony between the Narnian cosmos and its creator, Aslan. Aslan in this story is depicted by means of Martial symbolism. He can wake the trees, though Lucy cannot. He gives his great war-cry (in the chapter entitled ‘The Lion Roars’) which precipitates the climactic battle, righting wrongs and defeating tyranny. The world of Prince Caspian is not a chaos, but a cosmos, a carefully structured world, both morally and materially, in which people and events and objects have spiritual significance. Aslan embodies that significance in his own person, as Lewis believed that Jesus Christ embodied the divine spirit who creates, sustains, and redeems the actual universe. And what Lewis does with Martial imagery in Prince Caspian, he does with Jovial, Solar, Lunar, Mercurial, Venereal, and Saturnine imagery in the other books. The Chronicles, like the heavens, are telling the glory of God.

Dr. Michael Ward is a minister in the Church of England and the author of Planet Narnia: The Seven Heavens in the Imagination of C.S. Lewis (Oxford University Press, 2008). He is the co-editor of Heresies and How to Avoid Them: Why it Matters What Christians Believe (SPCK/Hendrickson, 2007) and of the forthcoming Cambridge Companion to C.S. Lewis. His website is http://www.planetnarnia.com
Visit Michael’s website at http://www.planetnarnia.com.
Posted on May 15, 2008 by admin
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found here:
https://www.cslewis.com/prince-caspian-and-the-planets/

Valerie Curren

I just saw your photo & that was Awesome & much better than my middle aged eyes could see either.

Thank you for all you’ve done to inform us about these events. I’m sharing a cornucopia of your info w/ family (& my actual sighting directions for our Up North locations) so hopefully at least some of them will be able to see this once in a national lifetime event!

Nor'easter

BIG if true !!!

MEET JOHN DURHAM JR – E.D.N.Y. – THE STEALTH BOMBER AND THE SON OF JOHN DURHAM SR
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https://aim4truth.org

ForGodandCountry

As I. understand things, Jr. is an assistant US Atty for the EDNY.

It would be surprising, indeed, if an assistant US atty were made a Special Counsel. Moreover, it would be literally playing games with words if Barr was speaking of another person in the sentence construed to refer to Jr.

ForGodandCountry

Exactly so.

Linda

Has this been shared? Short and sweet and right to the point.

https://twitter.com/a17time/status/1340620947636797441?s=20

Valerie Curren

Thanks this was Awesome, & I for one haven’t seen it before 🙂

ForGodandCountry

This could be entitled:

“The 2020 elections explained in 75 seconds.”

Linda

Posted on 8kun. Use your own judgment.

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TheseTruths

I cry foul.

  • Q said, “No outside communications,” which I take to mean from anyone purportedly speaking for Q.
  • “Stay in your homes.” No.
  • “Hunter has turned himself in.” Highly doubtful.
kalbokalbs

Speaking og Where’s Hunter.

For fun, and it is warranted, maybe Where’s Hunter WILL be indicted this Wednesday, the 23rd. If not, then Thursday, 24 December.

Going away gift from Barr. 🙂

ForGodandCountry

Well, that would be a bust, no pun intended. Hunter indicted?

Q said the first indictment would be a shocker.

Then again, the was the Klinesmith indictment….was that #1? Wait…

Who is on first?

Asking for Abbott and Costello.

kalbokalbs

Always looked at Klinesmith indictment as a shiny thing. Charitably a “gimme” for DOJ.

ForGodandCountry

Additionally…

Seems a bit contradictory too, doesn’t it?

”The DS has already lost. Everything you are seeing in the MSM/Twitter is a last ditch attempt.”

And yet…

”We are in the most dangerous phase and the stakes could not be higher.”

While it is true that both these things can be true at the same time, this is not the kind of messaging we see from known Trump insiders.

And the stay in your homes and do not interfere” is 100% left-speak, too.

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TheseTruths

And the stay in your homes and do not interfere” is 100% left-speak, too.

That’s what I thought too. In addition, Pres. Trump is calling everyone to a rally on January 6. Hardly “staying at home.”

pgroup2

Busted!!!

Deplorable Patriot

It’s not like the Trump people to telegraph anything and actually speak up. They are masters at the art of the cone of silence.

ForGodandCountry

Exactly.

Linda

Agree. I just posted it to see if I missed anything. I think there’s going to be a whole bunch of this kind of stuff on Twitter and 8kun the next couple of weeks, meant to confuse or demoralize.

pgroup2

Cannot confuse a deplorable. each one knows the truth.

pgroup2

Agree with your comment; however anon did not say he/she was speaking for Q. Also did not say this comm was authorized.

Objectively, almost all of it made perfect sense. But there’s always Q saying ‘no outside comms’.