Dear KMAG: 20230731 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!

We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.

Word of The Week:



  • A subdivision or district of a city or town under the jurisdiction of or patrolled by a specific unit of its police force.
  • The police station situated in and having jurisdiction over such a district.
  • An election district of a city or town.

Precinct map of Manhattan

More country music!

This one helps me get it. SEEING the lyrics helps to make sense of the sentiment.

I love the way his “round up” verb doesn’t have an object. That’s very important. The object could be anybody. Very important to remember.

As I see politics more up-front and personal, but also PEOPLE, I’m seeing where things are both breaking and healing, and it’s hard for me to communicate the hope and frustration.

I also see the specialness of this place, and how the world needs more of what we have here – a kind of deep honesty without prejudice (used in all senses of the word).

Be the Q Tree, people!

I am beat from local work. But it’s good, too. Resting now, relaxing, and saying thank you for being here.

Hope you’re STILL having a great summer!


Have a great week!



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Is that what they’re calling the new Snow White movie now?


Possibly. But I’m not the guy to ask since I know nothing about that.


Thank you for all you’re doing, Wolf, and for getting this post up despite your fatigue.

precinct (n.)

c. 1400, prasaynt (mid-15c. as precincte), “district defined for purposes of government or representation,” especially in a city or town, from Medieval Latin precinctum “enclosure, boundary line,” noun use of neuter past participle of Latin praecingere “to gird about, surround,” from prae “before” (see pre-) + cingere “to surround, encircle” (see cinch (v.)).


Alternate meaning – the smallest unit of political power, which is usually corrupted.


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Who goes to see Cher? Or Kiss?

Desperately Seeking Distractions types.


Alan Jackson is pretty popular…😅


How does that relate to my ridicule of two hazbeenz?


Since Alan Jackson is included in the list of people who had crowds smaller than Trump’s, I’m saying that even if no one goes to see Cher or Kiss, people DO flock to see Alan Jackson. Therefore, Trump’s crowd size being larger than (at least) Jackson’s is impressive.


I see. But it’s really a dumb comparison in the first place IMO.

Cuppa Covfefe

At their peak, they HAD HUGE DRAWING POWER…


So does the IRS to their annual 4/15 conventions.

Millions show up.

Cuppa Covfefe

So do refrigerators and freezers…

They’re always drawing power 😀


….but has done his farewell tour because of Charcot–Marie–Tooth disease — a hereditary neurological issue.


I didn’t know about that.

Alan Jackson Announces ‘Last Call’ Tour (But Not ‘Final’ One)

Don’t call it a farewell tour or a final bow, because Alan Jackson isn’t. But after openly addressing some health issues recently, the Country Music Hall of Famer is being honest with his fans about his prospects for touring in the future, and how he many not be doing it forever. So just call it “Last Call: One More For The Road,” and hope that it’s not the very end. 

In September of 2021, Alan Jackson revealed that he’s been suffering from a degenerative nerve condition called Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, nicknamed (somewhat ironically) CMT. He was diagnosed with the condition ten years ago. It primarily affects the peripheral nervous system causing balance issues by compromising smaller muscles in the body’s extremities. It’s related to muscular dystrophy and Parkinson’s disease.

The good news is that the disease is not life threatening, nor does it affect longevity. But it does affect things like balance and your ability to move. Alan Jackson wanted to reveal the condition, just in case people saw him swerving on stage and thought he’d indulged in a few too many gin & tonics. He’s also been performing lately while sitting on a stool. 

Alan Jackson said at the time, “I never wanted to do the big retirement tour, like people do, then take a year off and then come back. I think that’s kinda cheesy. And I’m not saying I won’t be able to tour. I’ll try to do as much as I can. I feel a little more freedom now, because I’m not trying to worry about getting on the radio and fitting into their limitations. I’ve always believed that the music is the most important thing. The songs. And I guess that’s what I’d like to (leave) if I had a legacy.” 

So Alan Jackson has announced sixteen new concert dates for 2022, including a date at the Gila River Arena in Phoenix originally booked for 2020 that has been rescheduled multiple times. 

“I’ve always admired my heroes like George Jones, Merle Haggard, Loretta Lynn and Charley Pride who just played as much as they wanted to, as long as they could,” Jackson says. “I’ve always thought I’d like to do that, and I’d like to as long as my health will allow. I’ll try to do as much as I can, but if I’m comin’ your way, come see me….” 


Probably Cher goes to see Kiss.

And Kiss returns the favor.

She’s pretty smart.

She’s making four times as much as they are in the arrangement.

Cuppa Covfefe

Ahhh, but her Cher price has tanked…

Valerie Curren

😉 😉

Valerie Curren

It could be referring the the previous records set in that venue, not necessarily recently…

Cuppa Covfefe

Those crowd numbers are most likely from back in the day when Elton John, KISS, and Cher WERE popular…


A thought: if they give CokeFreak immunity, he can be forced to testify about the crimes with which he was involved.

His 5th amendment protection vanishes. Same thing with a pardon. I wonder if that hotshot lawfare firm thought about that.


I don’t know how it works, but I would have thought a pardon would mean he couldn’t be questioned anymore about whatever he was pardoned for. But I suppose he could be questioned about the crimes of others, like his father?


A pardon or immunity removes criminal liability. It goes no further than that.


Good to know.


Crackhead has something far more valuable than a pardon or immunity.

His partner in crime, literally, is PERVERTOTUS.

Pervertotus is the head of the executive branch.

The DoJ is part of the executive branch.

This is a handy visual representation of Crackhead’s relationship with the DoJ:


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Does perjury fall under the criminal code? Does immunity or pardon remove liability for perjury in testimony in other cases where a person is only a witness? Reason would say that there is no immunity in cases where one is only a witness but with the law one never knows. A lawyer could argue that past immunity protects the witness from testimony on related issues.


“Does perjury fall under the criminal code?”


Sure, for you and me it does.


But for Crackhead the Bagman?

Not so much… 😂


All fed crimes can be pardoned by POTUS. There is no way for the pardoned person to refuse any questioning as long as it’s relevant.

Although Ford pardoned Nixon for future crimes, that was limited to Watergate related possible crimes. There was never a ruling by the Supremes on the scope of the pardon.

You could expect a big legal fight if Hunter had immunity and still refused to answer questions.


“All fed crimes can be pardoned by POTUS. There is no way for the pardoned person to refuse any questioning as long as it’s relevant.”


He doesn’t have to refuse any questioning, he can just refuse to answer. And when you think about it, that’s really the more important part 😂

I know many people are having trouble grappling with this concept, that there IS NO RULE OF LAW without PHYSICAL FORCE (or credible threat of same), and the people who are legally (not lawfully) permitted to use FORCE are now the CRIMINALS.

And after observing criminals for quite some time now, I have noticed something about criminals.

They don’t prosecute themselves.

So whether Pervertotus pardons Crackhead or not, makes no difference.

But suppose Brandon pardoned Crackhead, and Brandon’s DoJ gave him an immunity deal on top of that, for sake of argument.

Back in Kansas, Bagman might have been compelled to answer relevant questions after being granted immunity or being pardoned, etc.

But we’re definitely not in Kansas anymore.

Suppose Crackhead is pardoned or given immunity, or whatever.

Suppose he still won’t answer any questions.

Then what?

Then nothing, that’s what.

Because what’s the “or else”?

Is somebody under the authority of Brandon going to manhandle Brandon’s precious baby boy?

Throw him in prison for contempt, for not cooperating?

Much less use physical force or threats against him?

Who is going to do harm in any way to the emperor’s son?

Unless anyone thinks the criminal gov’t is going to put thumbscrews on dear Crackhead, he doesn’t have to say squat.

And who in this gov’t is going to do such a dastardly thing to Brandon’s baby boy and #1 bagman?

Even if someone was willing to put thumbscrews on Crackhead, is Pervertotus going to allow his own personal DNA-descendant Bagman to have his thumbs screwed?


“You could expect a big legal fight if Hunter had immunity and still refused to answer questions.”


A big legal fight between who and whom?

The GOPe wouldn’t even raise an objection (not that they have any say in the matter).

If Hunter refused to cooperate after an immunity deal, who is that dispute between?

Is it not between Brandon’s DoJ and Brandon’s son Hunter?

No doubt Hunter is mighty worried! 😂🤣😂

This is what I’m talking about.

People’s normalcy bias is so strong, they are so used to how the system is supposed to work (and certainly would work, if it was you or me), that they simply cannot grasp that the fundamental reality is different, when criminals are in charge of the process.

The entire legal / just-us system is predicated on the lawful use of physical force to arrest, prosecute, convict and incarcerate.

Because nobody volunteers to have any of those things done to them, unless the penalty for non-compliance is even greater — and certain to happen.

So physical force (or credible threat of same) is required. Nothing happens without it.

But here have a situation where:

1) Criminals run the administration

2) Criminals run the FIB

3) Criminals run the DoJ

4) the emperor’s son is the subject

Which career gov’t official is going to put his hands on the emperor’s son?

And even if someone dares to do so, how secure is his future in government work — or anywhere else?

But suppose someone didn’t care, and put their hands on #1 Bagman anyway.

How long would Bagman be in custody? 30 seconds? A minute?

What prosecutor in the Brandon administration is going to file charges, or prosecute?

It’s all GONE.

The ‘system’ of punishment doesn’t exist for them.

It only (and especially) exists for us.

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None of these legal doodads are applicable to people who are above the law.


Yes, just wondering how it’s s’posed to be.


“A thought: if they give CokeFreak immunity, he can be forced to testify about the crimes with which he was involved.”


Who would ‘force’ him, and how would they do it?

Ultimately, these kinds of legal concepts all depend on someone manhandling another human being to get compliance.

Who in this government is actually going to do that to Crackhead the Bagman?

Who would be allowed to, even if there was someone who was willing?

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A judge in any lawsuit where his testimony is relevant. If he refuses to testify, he goes to jail for remedial contempt.

Which has NO TIME LIMIT. Some guy in Pennsylvania told the divorce court judge that all his assets were gone. Judge thought he was lying and jailed him.

Last I heard [a decade ago] he had been in jail for 7-8 years. He might still be.

And the Supreme Court said it’s constitutional.

In state courts, local sheriff arrests the ‘victim’. Many of them don’t play politics.

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“A judge in any lawsuit where his testimony is relevant. If he refuses to testify, he goes to jail for remedial contempt.”


Which government employee puts their hands on Hunter?

Who is going to escort Hunter to jail?

Can you even imagine?

Which cop wants to sign his own termination papers, lose his pension, have his family financially ruined, and end up on the Clinton Body Count list?

If Hunter is arrested, it only happens with permission of Pervertotus for the purpose of optics, and then another ‘deal’ will be reached behind the scenes, where Hunter goes free by the oldest judicial decree there is: because the dictator said so.

They won’t call it that publicly of course, but that’s what it will be, and the entire mainstream propaganda apparatus will be deployed to defend and justify it.


“Which has NO TIME LIMIT. Some guy in Pennsylvania told the divorce court judge that all his assets were gone. Judge thought he was lying and jailed him. Last I heard [over a decade ago] he had been in jail for 7 or 8 years.

And the Supreme Court said it’s constitutional.”


Was this guy the son of the current dictator?

If not, that is a significant distinction.

It means everything.


“In state courts, it’s the local sheriff who arrests the ‘victim’. Many don’t play politics.”


Where were all these heroes for the past nearly 3 years since our Republic was stolen?

If they didn’t lift a finger over the Republic being destroyed, which one is going to stick his neck out to arrest Dear Leader’s son?

The sheriff may not play politics, but he bleeds like anybody else. The criminals running our gov’t have no problem dealing with cops who go rogue.

They look forward to it, it gives them an excuse to make an example of the renegade, to show everyone else in crime enforcement exactly what will happen to them, if they cross the Dictator.

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Reality Imitates Fiction: California Family Makes Millions Moving Bottles and Cans Between States For Recycling, Like Classic Seinfeld Episode ‘The Bottle Deposit’ – The Problem? It’s FRAUD – Say Prosecutors

Arbitrage is a trade strategy to generate gains from the difference in a security’s price in different markets. You purchase assets from one market at a lower price and sell them in a another at a higher price, thus generating a profit.

A crazy application of this principle can be found in the classic Seinfeld episode called ‘The Bottle Deposit,’ in which insane neighbor mailman Newman learns that bottles and cans can be refunded for 5 cents in New York but go for 10 cents in Michigan. The scheme bonds Newman and fellow loony Kramer into and adventure that goes sideways, as is usually the case.

Yahoo reported:

This scheme has been widely used in real life, but – as it happens – it’s against the law. California prosecutors say that a family that made $7.6 million from recycling materials that they purchased in Arizona has, in fact, defrauded the state of California.

…This illegal ‘arbitrage’ capitalizes on the discrepancy in recycling redemptions from state-to-state.

When someone purchases a plastic or aluminum bottle in California, they pay 5 to 10 cents in ‘Redemption Value’, which the one can have repaid by returning the items to one of the state’s more than 1,200 recycling centers. Arizona has no such program – meaning you can buy the recycled material much cheaper.


I’d sure like to see the indictment because I need a good laugh. And how are they going to prove fraud which is a civil matter anyway?

Those people need to immediately move to Florida and buy a mansion to live in. Florida law says no one can touch a homestead under any circumstances.

O J knows all about that.

pat frederick

aaaahhhhhh…thanks for this pgroup!
i wondered why piglosi would buy a mansion in Florida when she already lives on a coast…so the one in Florida is safe?


Just not from the rising seawater. 🙄


Pray for melting icebergs.

Gail Combs

If it is glaciation, Florida turns into a desert.


CA AND CA recycling thing is a fraud itself.

  • If one recycles (IIRC), < 50 pieces, they get the corresponding deposit back.
  • If >50 pieces the recycle place can weigh the bottles / cans. Comes out significantly less than, by piece.
  • Further, typical deposit rate requires an ID. NO ID, lower rate. Kids or homeless looking for some cash, lose out.

Gil00 liked a comment of mine on the prior thread. If she’s lurking, I’m curious to know how she’s doing.


Coothie, Gil’s surgery on her ankle (3 breaks) is scheduled Monday afternoon. Sylvia put up a nice prayer for her at the Crow’s Nest in tomorrow (Monday’s thread). It’s gonna be a rough go recuperating with both bone & soft tissue damage. Gil’s hub works fulltime, and Gil continues Kiddo’s homeschooling through the summer, plus all homemaking duties and an upstairs bedroom. Gil said one saving grace is her family did already get a nice vacation somewhere.

BTW if there are any vintage car afficianados here, my opener at the Nest tomorrow (just posted) is about a British oil/acrylics painter I recently stumbled across named Alan Fearnley. There are several paintings in the opener or you can find more online by researching Fearnley. He is a prolific artist with oassions for vintage autos, steam locomotives and race cars. And his paintings come alive with the people he portrays in the scenes. It’s truly a visual feast.

link to Nest is in Wolfie’s sidebar. Cheers all 🤓


Good to know on Gil. Bringing one of the Fernley’s over that captures train and car. Hope it shows. Your right, those are amazing paintings from an amazing time.comment image

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When I was getting ready to have my first car, there was an older roadster up for sale near my home. It wasn’t one of the well-known ones and I couldn’t tell what shape it was in, but I kept thinking of myself motoring around with it through college.

I might still own it today, in a Theseus’ Ship sort of way [ ].

Besides my 1994 Honda, I wonder what other vehicles I might own if I had space to work on them and store them.


Don’t forget to have space for a lift. 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Or an inspection/maintenance pit…

Especially if they are British Cars 😀


Why do Brit cars need a pit?

Cuppa Covfefe

Cheaper than buying/installing a lift…

Easiest way to follow a British Leyland auto?

Follow the trail of parts left behind 🙂


If a Brit car doesn’t leak oil, it’s out of oil.

Cuppa Covfefe


Oil’s well that ends well 🙂

Have to say that French cars are also, erm, interesting… had a Citroen CSA wagon (with the self-leveling air shocks, etc.), and it was the only car I EVER saw with the belts under covers (like the old bicycle chain protectors) and the teeth of the flywheel OUT IN THE OPEN!!!!!!!

Just think if some poor mechanic accidentally left (or lost) a socket or spanner on the motor, and the flywheel “found” it…

Was like driving a bowl of jello, but for some people (my wife’s folks) who needed the non-bumpy ride, it was great… fortunately my brother-in-law and his son are great mechanics…

Gail Combs

I was seriously considering building one of those since we have a backhoe.

Cuppa Covfefe

Those are really handy… my in-laws have one in their garage, and even oil changes are much quicker and easier… can be a little nerve-wracking driving over the pit, but once there, it’s great.

Something like this, used for Diesel locomotives would be great… OK…. maybe a bit of overkill   :wpds_cool: 

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When I was a kid, my neighbor behind us owned a vintage car. Those were the days of no fences between yards and in the summer if we saw him through our lilac hedge bringing that car out, we’d scurry over and ask for a ride around the block. He was a nice man and would oblige by piling us into the rumble seat. Such fun !!

Gail Combs

Like my 1910 bike axle buggy… Or the surrey with the fringe on top… or the brougham… or the governess cart… or the meadowbrook…


I’m glad you enjoyed Fearnley’s art, para. His works exude a romanticism for a bygone era, and he has an ability to portray movement and energy through those remarkable autos & trains. I found them fascinating.


Didn’t want to steal all your stuff, but the “people” too. He did blurry and clean. This one below is blurry.

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Heck… here’s what might be all of it.

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Share away!! That’s why we blog!

Every painting is like a living scene. What captures my eye, along with the human activity, is his use of lighting to emphasize and cast glows. It positively shimmers.

Valerie Curren

Yes that light usage is breathtaking! 


here, para, I brought the whole music video. One of my favorite songs – Auberge – by Chris Rea – features a slide show of Fearnley’s art … fabulous way to view are.

music is instrumental for the first minute and 43 seconds then actual song. You can mute if not interested in song and just watch Fearnley’s art.


Good song to pair the cars with. They have the same kind of snap about them.

Gail Combs

OH! How lovely!

I am going to share that with Hubby when he gets back in.

I just shared it with a lady who works at my favorite Auto parts store. Her Dad is into restoring old cars and will love it.


Thank you for highlighting Sylvia’s prayer.


The carnivorous plant guy in the vids is 100% correct. That’s what it takes.

One thing he didn’t highlight, that he could have, is that carnivorous plants have turned to eating bugs because they live in places that are extremely resource poor. Using resources from bugs means that they are among the largest and most successful plants in that environment — which means that other plants cannot grow faster or taller to shade them. If there were enough resources to grow a tree, the plants would never have gone carnivorous in the first place.

One seeming exception is the tropical pitcher plants of the genus Nepenthes. They actually grow on trees — yes, with shade — in little catchments of water where the branches intertwine. There might be nutrients in the soil fifty feet below, but all they get is rain….and animals.

But if it’s growing on the “ground”, a carnivorous plant should be in full sun.


Surgery is tomorrow at 1pm.
Outpatient. 2 permanent screws on the right side of ankle and 1 plate with 1 screw on the left side.
Surgeon did my 1st knee surgery at 15 when he first started. Respected in ares.


Prayers up, Gil, for successful surgery and recovery. 💖💖


Thx a bunch Alison.


Yes. Told kiddo when i come home ill now be part robot. 😌


Don’t let him near any buttons.


Lol. Ok.

Cuppa Covfefe

The Bionic Mom… WATCH OUT! 🙂


We already have eyes in he back of our heads….oooo weeee oooo

Cuppa Covfefe

😮 I think “Home Improvement” covered that 😀

Here it is on daily motion (couldn’t find the youtube that loads). The episode is called “Flying Sauces” (S1 E8)…


I miss that show. Thx for that.


Im supposed to get a hospital bed on tuesday. Been on couch past few days. Having made my laundry room into my sponge bath and closet area. My left knee is too weak to get me upstairs on crutches. I fell already. Big bruise on left leg. Ankle pain is really bad when not elevated.
I had to buy the knee wont get here til Tuesday. Insurance refused, said its not medically necessary. That was before i fell
Mr gil has an extra high back leather office chair. I had him bring it downstairs so i can sit and scoot in it. Better than nothing and it helps.


I’m sorry things are so difficult! 🙏 for your surgery and recovery, for relief from pain, and for help with daily chores and tasks.


Amen ty.


Keep us posted as you are able. But top priority is your rest and well-being. 😊


I had suspected that Monday would have something happening.

You’ve got all the prayers and a skillful practitioner — I’m sure they’ll get you reassembled correctly.


He wanted me to get surgery on friday. The OR didnt have a team to work the overtime so i had to wait an extra 3 days. He was mad. But its getting done and hopefully no extra negatives. Ill ipdate all that when im able.

Valerie Curren

Maybe that extra time has allowed even more swelling to dissipate…


A bit but the dependent pain is the worst.

Valerie Curren

I’m so sorry. Hopefully the post op pain will be minimized & at least be a reminder that you are quickly on the mend!


Make sure he saves any extra parts, just in case.


15 is pretty young for a surgeon.




Lol. 😃


Don’t forget to take a permanent marker and write “NOT THIS LEG” on the leg with the good ankle.

And on the other leg, next to the broken ankle, write “Don’t forget the stitches

I always like to give the Doc something to smile about 😁

If he doesn’t have a sense of humor, just blame it on me, and tell him your friend Scott put you up to it 😂


You can also write “NOT A LEG” on both of your arms.

Valerie Curren

you guys will be here all week LOL


“Tip the veal, try your waitress!”

Cuppa Covfefe

Not forgetting that old standard on even older Route 66

“Eat Here, Get Gas”…


“You can also write “NOT A LEG” on both of your arms.”


Probably a good idea to write it on your neck, now that I think about it.


He does. Old school doc.

Cuppa Covfefe

Just be sure it’s not this doc 😆 ( I hear he’s straight Outta Lynwood in SoCal).
Hope this posts OK [“Like A Surgeon”], it won’t play over here… geoblocking..


I’m sending prayers for a successful surgery and a smooth recovery for ya gil00..


Ty ma’am 👍 😊 🙏

Valerie Curren

I’m surprised they aren’t keeping you overnight at least for pain management but when my son had a complex displaced break of the forearm they only kept him overnight for the first surgery. They plated one bone & just realigned the other bone, but it got shifted when another student yanked a book out of that hand. So he had a second surgery to plate that bone too. Later he had a third surgery to remove both plates since the doc thought they might interfere with his usage & mobility of the arm. Son said it felt like he’d broken his arm 3 times & his scars made some students who didn’t know him assume he was a cutter…sigh…

I guess since you’ve previously been in the hospital & under general anesthesia that they assume you’ll be just fine outpatient…& surely you will be just fine but it would be nice for you to get “pampered” by the hospital for an extra day or two 🙂


I thought at least 2 days. Not too long ago thatd be the case, especially as a fall risk. Insurance companies.

Valerie Curren

un-flippin’ believable 🙁 Your hubby’s office chair is going to get a workout!


I can well understand if you’re feeling anxious and nervous.

But your ankle is not going to get better by itself. The clear path to healing is through this surgery. You should be feeling keyed-up and eager to have this done, so that your healing can begin. Don’t let your vision end with these preliminary steps — keep your eye on the greater goals.

pat frederick

sending prayers up for you!
some years ago I broke my leg and ankle in a slip on ice. i broke the “nubby” bone on the inside of the ankle clean off…they had to screw it back on–2 screws. the orthopedic surgeon told me afterwards no ice skating, no tennis and no high heels. sigh
but i had a wonderful surgeon! I pray yours is too!!
best of luck!


I just want to walk, be able to run, no deformity. Sounds like you did well.


Ongoing prayers for a swift recovery.


All best wishes for a smooth, uneventful surgery — sending much Good Energy and Deep Healing to you, and much Wisdom to the surgical team.
IMO, it’s important to make sure BEFORE you have the surgery that the doctor orders Home Health Care. ALSO that the doctor orders Physical and Occupational Therapy for you — to be performed AT YOUR HOME.
Being anxious / nervous for a surgery is completely normal. Try to breathe down slowly to the diaphragm. Sipping water and reciting a mantra like “This is going to be OK” can help also.


Pt/ot at home i will push for. Cant drive plus a kid in tow. My house is pt friendly.

Cuppa Covfefe

Prayers up Gil00 for you and your family and your doctors and OP. Also for strength and smooth and swift healing!!! GOD Bless!


Tyv. I think everyone helped me. I really do.


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There need to be consequences. I don’t know details of how it all works, but it seems there should be sanctions at the least, and law licenses in jeopardy, and possibly criminal charges. But who would file them, and who would investigate them and enforce the law? That is the problem.

Maybe we need a way to have a bipartisan DOJ, but they would obstruct a president like Trump at every turn. I don’t know what the solution is.

Cuppa Covfefe

Thomas Jefferson’s tree comes to mind…

The Founding Fathers saw this coming… and John Adams was right:

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.


Matt Gaetz

BREAKING: Two members of the House Judiciary Committee are now calling for lawmakers to return to Washington for immediate emergency hearings on the DOJ’s interference with Congressional Oversight.

Mike Johnson is an elected member of House Leadership (and one of the brightest attorneys in the House)

This is all because Hunter’s problems and Joe’s problems merge with the testimony of Devin Archer.

Time for Action. Right now.

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Rep. Mike Johnson @RepMikeJohnson·11h

Replying to @mattgaetz @SpeakerMcCarthy and 2 others

I will join you back on the Hill, @RepMattGaetz!


G F L, with the House taking action.

But, yes. It IS time for action. Has been time for action, since rCONS gained majority in the House.

When the House returns from two months of talking, interviews and a few town halls, the House will make a half ass move towards impeachment.


Had to look up GFL.
Gone For Lunch…
Great Fire of London…
Grounded For Life…

I’m guessing you meant Good Freakin’ Luck. 😂

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Almost there.  😂  😅  😂 


Someone should just make the disaster movie and be done with it (after the Hollywood strike, that is).

Ocean current system could shut down as early as 2025, leading to climate disaster

A major system of ocean currents that ferries heat from the tropics to the North Atlantic could shut down far sooner than expected, according to new predictions. Such a collapse would prove catastrophic for Earth’s climate.

The system, known as the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) had previously been measured to be dramatically weakening in conjunction with rising ocean temperatures. Despite this, however, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) recently announced that climate scientists don’t expect the AMOC to totally switch off within the century. 

But a new study is now challenging that conclusion, raising the specter of a halted AMOC to as early as 2025…

Finding that direct measurements of the AMOC’s strength have only been made for the past 15 years, Ditlevsen’s team applied sophisticated statistical tools to ocean temperature data going all the way back to the 1870s for an enhanced dataset. This detailed analysis ultimately suggested significant warning signs of the AMOC shutting down between 2025 and 2095, with a staggering certainty of 95%. [😂]

“Trust the science,” they said. “We will no longer have snow in our lifetimes,” they said.

More specifically, the team’s results evidenced that the most likely time for this collapse would be around 2057.

Still, other climate scientists remain cautious, saying that there are still uncertainties in the data that could affect its accuracy. However, it’s worth considering that even the mere possibility of the AMOC shutting down so soon is rather alarming.

And (drum roll 🥁) the takeaway:

“Our result underscores the importance of reducing global greenhouse gas emissions as soon as possible,” Ditlevsen said.

Global warming and climate change aren’t working well enough. They had to find a new shiny object.


Bigfoot is getting short shrifted ever since the aliens took center stage. But they could make a comeback if one of them gets caught in a live trap, and then shipped to New York City to perform on Broadway.

(fun and frivolity)

pat frederick

not to fear…Moochelle will be back in the limelight shortly.
or were you referring to perhaps a different wookie??

Valerie Curren


Cuppa Covfefe

“Paddleboard Tales: The Wookie And The Rookie”…

pat frederick

ha! not a fair fight


The Wookie is small potatoes compared to Bigfoot, or cousin Yeti.

Valerie Curren

Well they shaved him down & Tried to teach him to speak so the entertainment factor is Way Down…

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pat frederick


Valerie Curren

Got a Pat laugh! My day is made 😉 😉

pat frederick

laughter is GREAT medicine for the soul!

Valerie Curren


Cuppa Covfefe

Should put a tattoo or a little LED array on top saying “This Space For Rent” 😀

Valerie Curren



Along with a tattoo that says, No Parking Anytime

Cuppa Covfefe

The Elvis have left the building 🙂


Ah that word «could» can carry a lot of scary and alarming narrative. That the Golf Stream could weaken or stop was also briefly a reason for concern in the mid-1990s, so it isn’t a new thing. But apparently, these propaganda-makers aka «scientists» have noticed that climate change isn’t frightening enough anymore, so now the hot seawater of the summer is supposedly interfering and thus something «could» happen.

And climate changing? It is as natural and as unavoidable as water being wet… the climate is always changing, it has been so, long before any of the present set of technocrats thought they could affect it materially in any way.

Gail Combs

If the oceans are staying hotter near the equator then the oceans are not transporting the heat to the north and that means GLACIERS CAN GROW!

…on 14th October 2014, Water temperature of the Great Lakes is over 6 degrees colder than normal

Britain faces longest winter in 50 years after earliest ever arrival of Siberian swan
The arrival of winter, traditionally heralded by the migration of Siberian swans, has come early as 300 birds flock to Britain

The 2001 to 2010 decade had the snowiest winters (December-February) on record.
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September 2014 Snow Cover Was Highest On Record In North America
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The Great Lakes obliterated all records for springtime ice in 2013 and 2014.

On March 1, 2014 the Great Lakes were approaching 100% Ice Cover – For The First Time On Record, only Lake Ontario was the only major holdout
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By March 26, 2014 the Great Lakes broke all records.
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March 3, 2015: Great Lakes ice cover over 88%, more than last year

I quit following the weather in 2015 when Trump came down the elevator. 😋

Brave and Free

Anything Could happen, send more money!


MIC is jealous.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Reminds me of the story of a young lad, away at college, at the end of his means before the end of the month.

In desperation, he wrote to his father:

No mon,
No fun,

Your son.

His father, realizing his son’s plight, as well as the nearness of the next month and the proximity of a teachable moment, replied:

So sad,
Too bad,

Your Dad.

That exchange probably happens tens or hundreds of thousands of time each year. Too bad that we can’t send that reply to the MIC, the DEMONRATS, and all the other gubmint leeches (e.g. Ukraine)…


Obviously we need a system of wind mills at sea. Push the oceans. A faux current…

Any more, weary of the BS foisted on us.


They should just bring in Poseidon

Olympian god of the sea and king of the sea gods; also god of flood, drought, earthquakes, and horses. His Roman equivalent is Neptune.

Proclamations from him would be as believable and accurate.

Gail Combs

….A major system of ocean currents that ferries heat from the tropics to the North Atlantic could shut down far sooner than expected, according to new predictions…..

Instability of Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation: Observations, Modelling and Relevance to Present and Future


The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) has changed dramatically during the glacial–interglacial cycle. One leading hypothesis for these abrupt changes is thermohaline instability. Here, I review recent progress towards understanding thermohaline instability in both observations and modelling. 👉𝗣𝗿𝗼𝘅𝘆 𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗱𝘀 𝗮𝘃𝗮𝗶𝗹𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗺 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗼𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗮𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗿𝘂𝗽𝘁 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗱𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗴𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹–𝗱𝗲𝗴𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗼𝗱 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗲𝗽 𝗡𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝘁𝗹𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗰 𝘄𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗔𝗠𝗢𝗖 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗡𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝘁𝗹𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗰 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗲.👈However, most fully Coupled General Circulation Models (CGCMs) so far seem to exhibit monostable AMOC, because (1) these models have failed to simulate abrupt AMOC changes unless they are forced by an abrupt change of external forcing and, (2) these models have shown opposite freshwater convergence from the current observations. This potential model bias in the AMOC stability leaves the model projection of the future AMOC change uncertain.

Simulated stability of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation during the Last Glacial Maximum


The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) redistributes heat, nutrients, and carbon between the hemispheres and 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀𝘁𝗶𝘁𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗶𝗽𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝗘𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗵’𝘀 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺(Lenton et al., 2008; Stocker and Wright, 1991). In light of this, painstaking efforts have been devoted to thoroughly understand its sensitivity and response to perturbations that are thought to play a major role in climate variability. Today, the zonally integrated Atlantic circulation is characterized by two overturning cells that are driven by the southward transport of North Atlantic Deep Water (NADW) and northward flowing Antarctic Bottom Water (AABW) occupying abyssal depths. Paleoreconstructions provide ample evidence that the AMOC experienced extensive reorganizations in the past (Böhm et al., 2015; Broecker and Denton, 1989; McManus et al., 2004; Stocker, 2000). Large AMOC variability is particularly well-documented for the transition from the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM, ∼20 kyr ago), characterized by ∼90 ppm lower atmospheric CO2 concentration (Monnin et al., 2001) and large continental ice sheets responsible for about 120 m lower sea level (Lambeck et al., 2014), into the current interglacial (Lehman and Keigwin, 1992; McManus et al., 2004). Nonetheless, a large array of uncertainties remain concerning the triggers of these abrupt climate events (Barker et al., 2015) and the overall mean AMOC state during the last glacial that facilitated the rapid sequence of climate changes during the following deglaciation (see Lynch-Stieglitz, 2017, for a review)….

2021 WUWT reports this paper:

A 30-year reconstruction of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation shows no decline

Received: 16 Jul 2020

…In the Northern Hemisphere, the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) carries as much as 90 % of all the heat transported poleward by the subtropical Atlantic Ocean (Johns et al.2011), with the associated release of heat to the overlying air helping to maintain north-western Europe’s relatively mild climate for its latitude. The AMOC also transports freshwater towards the Equator, and the associated deep water formation moves carbon and heat into the deep ocean (Kostov et al.2014Winton et al.2013McDonagh et al.2015). A significant change in AMOC circulation is thus likely to have an impact on the climate of north-western Europe and further afield, with possible influences on global hydrological and carbon cycles. Although the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) says that it is unlikely that the AMOC will stop this century, they state with medium confidence that a slowdown by 2050 due to anthropogenic climate change is very likely (Stocker et al.2013)….

  :wpds_arrow: The oceans as a calorimeter
By shaviv

I few months ago, I had a paper accepted in the Journal of Geophysical Research. Since its repercussions are particularly interesting for the general public, I decided to write about it…

….One of the raging debates in the climate community relates to the question of whether there is any mechanism amplifying solar activity. That is, are the solar synchronized climatic variations that we see (e.g., take a look at fig. 1 here) due to changes of just the solar irradiance, or, are they due to some effect which amplifies the solar-climate link. In particular, is there an amplification of some non-thermal component of the sun? (e.g., UV, solar magnetic field, solar wind or others which have much larger variations than the 0.1% variations of the solar irradiance). This question has interesting repercussions to the question of global warming, which is why the debate is so fierce.

If only solar irradiance is the cause of the solar-related climate variations, it would imply that the small solar variations cause large temperature variations on Earth, and therefore that Earth has a very sensitive climate. If on the other hand there is some amplification mechanism, it would imply that solar variations induce much larger variations in the radiative budget, and that the observed temperature variations can therefore be explained with a smaller climate sensitivity.

Since global warming alarmists want a large sensitivity, they adamantly fight any evidence which shows that there might be an amplification mechanism….

I already mentioned the Grand Solar Maximum the earth just went thru and that while, the total solar irradiation varies little the UV & EUV (That penetrate far into the oceans) vary much more.

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Between 2004 and 2007, the Solar Irradiance Monitor (blue line) measured a decrease in ultraviolet radiation (less than 400 nanometers) that was a factor of four to six larger than expected (black line). In the visible part of the spectrum (400 to 700 nanometers), SIM showed a slight increase in comparison to what was expected. Measurements (red) from another ultraviolet radiation-sensing instrument called SOLSTICE compare well with those from SIM — NASA

Solar radiation can penetrate much deeper (100 meters) than the low energy IR wavelengths of the ‘greenhouse’ gas CO2 that can only penetrate ~ 10 micrometers.

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Dat verhoogde broeikasstraling door CO2 de oceaan opwarmt is een AGW-fabel, de langgolvige infrarood straling van de atmosfeer heeft een veel te lage energie (golflengte) een komt niet dieper dan een fractie van een milimeter (10 micrometer). Dit is veel minder dan de grenslaag waar verdamping plaats vindt (500 micrometer), en dat is het enige wat de infrarood straling dan ook kan doen; helpen om water te verdampen….

Google translate:
That increased CO2 greenhouse radiation warms the AGW is a fable, the long-wave infrared radiation from the atmosphere has a lot to low energy (wavelength) is a no deeper than a fraction of a millimeter (10 micrometers). This is much less than the boundary layer where evaporation takes place (500 micrometers), and that’s the only thing the infrared radiation can do, help to evaporate water.

In other words any heating of the ocean is from solar radiation (but only to the depth of 100 meters) and not from bounced back ‘Earthshine’ If there is heat ‘Hiding in the oceans’ it is because of the changes in the amount of UV as noted by NASA

SORCE’s Solar Spectral Surprise

… the SIM instrument is the first to monitor the daily activity of certain parts of the spectrum, a measurement scientists call solar spectral irradiance.

In recent years, SIM has collected data that suggest the sun’s brightness may vary in entirely unexpected ways. If the SIM’s spectral irradiance measurements are validated and proven accurate over time, then certain parts of Earth’s atmosphere may receive surprisingly large doses of solar radiation even during lulls in solar activity.

“We have never had a reason until now to believe that parts of the spectrum may vary out of phase with the solar cycle, but now we have started to model that possibility because of the SIM results,” said Robert Cahalan, the project scientist for SORCE and the head of the climate and radiation branch at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md….

…Some of the variations that SIM has measured in the last few years do not mesh with what most scientists expected. Climatologists have generally thought that the various part of the spectrum would vary in lockstep with changes in total solar irradiance….

Giant Breach in Earth’s Magnetic Field Discovered

NASA’s five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth’s magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to “load up” the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics….

Canadian Guest

Folks, I posted this late yesterday, and am posting it here again. A great interview with Dr. Rima Laibow MD by Christopher James, a Canadian. The interview is about 52 minutes long, but gives concrete actions citizens can take to get their respective countries out of the WHO – first step.


Thanks for posting. I have it bookmarked to watch.

Gail Combs

Different Twatter:


Hopes this helps. Little blending with the TheseTruths post below.

Canadian Guest

Thanks. I just got on twitter for the first time to follow the national citizen’s Inquiry into Canada’s Covid response, which ofcourse, the Canadian MSM did not cover. It was entirely citizen funded.

I just followed you. I am “Star of the Sea” on twitter.

God bless

Barb Meier

Thanks Canadian, is your underlying name @godofabundance ?

Canadian Guest

No, it’s @Cdn_for_Life

Barb Meier

Thank you, that works and I followed you. I’m @BarbMeier45.

Barb Meier

Thanks for the link, CanadianGuest! I don’t know if you are subscribed to EpochTimes or EpochTV. If so, they have an American Thought Leaders interview with Bruce Pardy that is very good. He is Canadian and they start by discussing the Canadian Truckers strike about a year and a half ago. Sometimes EpochTV lets friends watch a video for free, I think maybe it is on Sunday evenings. Also, members can invite a friend to watch something by submitting their email address. Here’s the link…

Canadian Guest

Thanks so much!

Gail Combs

As a companion video about the WHO and the behind the scenes sausage making that I was going to bring up tomorow…

Vigilant News Interview: James Roguski, Stop THIS by December 2023

It deserves a heck of a lot more thumbs up!


Just got another. 


John Lennon was gunned down a little over a month after Reagan won the Presidential election on November 6, 1980. The Deep State tried to assassinate Reagan a few months later on March 30, 1981.


Well, this guy’s perspective is all black people. But that’s ok. MAGA is a BIG tent.


One site had this article from October of 2020 showing that Kamala did have connections to JB’s business dealings.

Harris, prominent Democrats listed as ‘key contacts’ for Biden family business venture projects

A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden‘s current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.

An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”

The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son.


The list, included Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe, among others.

It is unclear if any of the Democrats were ever contacted about the “target projects.”

The email was sent from Jim to Hunter Biden, Tony Bobulinski, Rob Walker and James Gilliar. 

More on Bobulinksi at the link.

Seems this should be investigated. Maybe Kamala is more of a liability than previously known.


Back in 2020 and 221, reports had, Hoe’s husband with Chynee business links.

Wonder if his Chynee business links, are in line with Briben Crime Family.

Cuppa Covfefe

There’s a really interesting article (indeed, a series of articles about racist mayors) about SF’s London Breed, yet another scion of the WilliBrown™ dynasty.

Seems not just Kamel-Hoe was launched by Willie… to wit (from the linked article):

Both Newsom and Breed are proteges of Willie Brown. As is Kamala Harris.

To understand San Francisco, you have to understand Brown. The former mayor transformed the city and its political mafia consists of FOWs or Friends of Willie. And friends can be a polite term. Everyone had something to offer Willie and he had something for them.

London Breed used to babysit Willie Brown’s kids. Brown moved her through the city’s system of political patronage with internships and appointments. Now Willie’s girl is in the White House, Willie’s boy is in the governor’s mansion, and his babysitter is running the city into the ground.

Breed borrowed Brown’s habit of blaming any criticism on racism.

And Brown hasn’t dropped the habit. “There is one problem we have not dealt with in this country and that is race,” the former political boss recently claimed.

At a speech the city’s black powerbroker who put his former mistress in the White House argued, “Have you ever heard of a black man being arrested for insider trading? Does this mean that the black man has a higher morality? No, but it does mean that the black man was never in a position to be able to commit insider trading,”

There’s no bigger insider than Willie Brown. No one has heard of him being arrested, but most city reformers still hold out hope for him and his mafia of oppressed political insiders.

Breed blamed the homeless crisis on “escalating housing costs”. Why are housing costs so high? That’s a question she can take up with Mr. Clean and his sugar daddy.

The whole article (and series) is thought provoking and well worth reading.

Valerie Curren

So good to see you here again Boss! I love the treehouse pics & the serenity they conjure. Keep fighting that Good Fight. God’s got this, & us, & He wins (has Already Won)!

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Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

Also found at Stella’s

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Gail Combs

Valerie Curren suggested a repost of these comments.

I will FIRST SAY– REMEMBER THAT PATRICK GUNNELS IS SAYING THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NUCLEAR BOMB! (Nothing like defusing the Right wing uproar over nuclear war…)



phoenixrising posted yesterday:


Dr. Strangelove was a documentary.…
🤡 So, gen. minihan is channeling the neoCON wet dream of war with China 🤡
They call it “Thucydides’ Trap” and as long as they willfully confine themselves to that logic and averse considering any other – it is a real trap.
I guess, the real value of that term is denial of responsibility: “we did not CHOOSE to destroy the world, we were in a trap and had no choice, the choice and blame lie with Russia and China not with us”

“the choice and blame lie with Russia and China not with us”

Is it personal interest?

Notice, those were public speeches. It does not have to match his personal opinion
It mostly consists of two parts

1. Influence, propaganda, “sending a message” .

2. Pledge of allegiance to his social strata, “virtue signaling”.

Personally Biden could or could not believe it, we can never be sure
Speaking of ‘sure’ … we will never know whether or not Biden is currently cognizant. I find myself among the group of people who question whether he is acting … or not.


‘They’ are PREPPING for a war with China.
This from the NY Slimes:
U.S. Hunts Chinese Malware That Could Disrupt American Military Operations

American intelligence officials believe the malware could give China the power to disrupt or slow American deployments or resupply operations, including during a Chinese move against Taiwan.

The Biden administration is hunting for malicious computer code it believes China has hidden deep inside the networks controlling power grids, communications systems and water supplies that feed military bases in the United States and around the world, according to American military, intelligence and national security officials.

The discovery of the malware has raised fears that Chinese hackers, probably working for the People’s Liberation Army, have inserted code designed to disrupt U.S. military operations in the event of a conflict, including if Beijing moves against Taiwan in coming years.

The malware, one congressional official said, was essentially “a ticking time bomb” that could give China the power to interrupt or slow American military deployments or resupply operations by cutting off power, water and communications to U.S. military bases. But its impact could be far broader, because that same infrastructure often supplies the houses and businesses of ordinary Americans, according to U.S. officials…

Badlands discusses it:
Devolution Power Hour #166 Featuring Patrick Gunnels and Chris Paul – Sat 10:30 PM ET –

13:40 to 38:45 (I am finding Patrick harder and harder to listen to…)

I will also add:
Next Crisis Bigger than COVID” – Power Grid/Finance Down – WEF’s Cyber Polygon

by Ice Age Farmer | Nov 15, 2020

The World Economic Forum warns of a new crisis of “even more significant economic and social implications than COVID19.” What threat could possibly be more impactful? Christian breaks down the WEF’s “Cyber Polygon” tabletop exercise, its participants, and predictive programming around a looming large scale cyberattack on critical infrastructure that would unleash a Dark Winter and help to usher in the Great Reset.

Jeremy Jurgens, WEF Managing Director:

“I believe that there will be another crisis. It will be more significant. It will be faster than what we’ve seen with COVID. The impact will be greater, and as a result the economic and social implications will be even more significant.”

  :wpds_arrow: Klaus Schwab:

“We all know, but still pay insufficient attention, to the frightening scenario of 𝗮 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗵𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗰𝘆𝗯𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝘁𝗲 𝗵𝗮𝗹𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝘀𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗹𝘆, 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, 𝗵𝗼𝘀𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹 𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗶𝗰𝗲𝘀, 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗲𝘁𝘆 𝗮𝘀 𝗮 𝘄𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗲. The COVID-19 crisis would be seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a major cyberattack.

To use the COVID19 crisis as a timely opportunity to reflect on the lessons the cybersecurity community can draw and improve our unpreparedness for a potential cyber-pandemic.”

Video at site.
This is why I wrote: THE CASE FOR NUCLEAR WAR


Gail Combs

To round this out I am going to add why I KNOW Patrick Gunnels is full of Schiff when it comes to the topic of Nuclear Bombs.

First, as I have mentioned a couple times before, my Mom was one of the DOD lab Rats when they tested radiation on American citizens. It was done ~1970 and I drove her to the ‘treatments’ at Strong Memorial in Rochester NY. Her skin turned black and flaked off like the skin of a charred Chicken breast. The wound never healed but continued to weep fluid. Also her brain was affected. She went from a very strong intelligent woman with a photographic memory (Literally) to a weepy child who had trouble with her memory.

Washington, DC, October 24, 1986.


The recent acknowledgement by federal officials that the government conducted radiation experiments with human guinea pigs has grabbed the attention of all U.S. citizens, and the reason is that most people assumed that our country would not engage in this kind of activity. I think the fact that the federal government — our government – funded or engaged in this kind of activity is the most disturbing Act of this whole story. Most Americans thought that our country would not take that kind of action…..

A review of these documents reveals the frequent and systematic use of human subjects as guinea pigs for radiation experiments. Some of these experiments were conducted in the 1940’s and 1950’s, and others were performed during the supposedly more enlightened 1960’s and 1970’s. The report describes in detail 31 experiments during which about 695 persons were exposed to radiation which provided little or no medical benefit to the subjects. The report notes that it seems appropriate to urge the Department of Energy to make every practicable effort to identify the persons who served as experimental subjects, to examine the long-term histories of subjects or an increased incidence of radiation associated diseases, and to compensate these unfortunate victims for damages….

These experiments were carried out at the Manhattan District Hospital at Oak Ridge, Tennessee; Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester, New York; the University of Chicago; and the University of California. San Francisco….

The overall conclusion from the folders for polonium and uranium injections among the DOE plutonium papers is that these additional experiments were carried out at the University of Rochester by some of the same investigators involved with the plutonium injection experiments. Although staff of the Atomic Energy Commission clearly knew of these additional experiments in 1974, the Commission investigation was truncated with the plutonium injection experiments….

….also the expectation that radioactive material would be administered on for the benefit of a patient. Yet your 1986 report described experiments in the 5Os, 60s, and into the 70s, where subjects received ionizing radiation that provided little or no benefit to the subject. The fact that the later experiments occurred indicates that the 1947 guidance was either violated or overturned in the interim….

experiments,” defined in part as, “experiments on individuals involving intentional exposure to ionizing radiation. This category does not include common and routine clinical practices, such as established diagnosis and treatment methods, involving incidental exposure to ionizing radiation.” (Executive Order, President Clinton, 1/18/94)….

It therefore seems appropriate that as the Interagency Working Group moves forward, some effort should be devoted to determining precisely what standards were in effect in April 1947, and how they deteriorated over time. The matter of what standards were in effect after 1947 and whether they might have been violated is also related to the question of what compensation would be appropriate for experimental subjects.

…Considering the history on the lack of informed consent with these experiments….


I am going to add a bit more info to the above.

Hubby is a physicist as I have mentioned. At one point he worked for MIT Lincoln Labs. This is at the time when the Russians and USA were hammering out the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty. The goal was to come up with a method for detecting a nuclear underground nuclear test hidden within an earth quake. And yes they did find you could tell the difference. The ‘wave shape’ is different.

As an aside, everyone knew who the KGB agents were and felt sorry for them because after a long day working as scientists they then had to go back to their rooms and write a long report 😋

Second, when living in Boston. one of my riding partners was a nuclear engineer for the Seabrook Nuclear plant. I also knew three welders who worked on nuclear plants. All the welds are X-rayed & one bad weld — you are fired.

A good friend of Hubby and now a family friend, was a nuclear physicist. He and Hal Clement (aka Harry Stubbs) ran experiments when the nuclear bombs were detonated at White Sands Proving grounds.

I was at Dr L’s 50th birthday party when Hal roasted Dr L. Dr L shoot back on one occassion, “Well at least I don’t pull on the steering wheel when trying to pass a car.” Hal had learned to fly before learning to drive and when rushing away from the bomb site, reverted to older reflexes.

Dr L was also acquainted with one of the eight people who Tickled the Dragon’s Tail. It was Dr Richard Feyman who gave the name Tickling the dragon’s tail and warned against it. He was was involved with the Manhattan project.

What is interesting is the man standing closest to the door was the SECOND man out the door according to Hubby.

How a Scientist’s Atomic Demonstration Turned Deadly at Los Alamos

On May 21, 1946, Dr. Louis Slotin suffered a fatal dose of radiation while he demonstrated the technique of critical assembly and associated studies and measurements to another scientist.

Critical assembly involves bringing two or more pieces of fissile material together to form a critical mass, the mass at which atomic chain reaction occurs.

The technique, called “tickling the dragon’s tail,” allowed Slotin to calculate critical mass, which would be necessary to detonate in an atomic weapon.

The method involved delicately screwing two hollow spheres of beryllium around a mass of fissionable material. Two one-inch spacers between the upper hemisphere and the lower shell provided the only “safety” measure preventing inadvertent critical assembly….


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I posted some of this under Patrick’s discourse on ‘there was no nuclear bombs or radiation’ and was called a liar and a troll and a CIA shill…

Patrick has certainly managed to brainwash his cult.

Valerie Curren

you “a CIA shill” Bwah ha ha ha!

Gail Combs

  :wpds_cool:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol: .



That must have been a horrible ordeal for your Mother … I cannot even imagine.

And for you too of course… God bless you Dear Lady.

Thank you for your strong voice and the facts you bring to keep us informed.

Valerie Curren


Gail Combs

What was very frustrating was I was a first year Chemistry student and had joined the American Chemical Society (ACS). As you know I like to read… and read… and read.

Anyway after they used Mom in the DOD experiments they then used her in their Chemotherapy experiments.

She had had a radical mastectomy, the cancer had traveled to the lymph nodes in her upper arm and thus the ‘radiation therapy’

After that she fell and a lump appeared on her neck. After the butcher job Strong Memorial did on her mastectomy, leaving a mess instead of a neat scar, Mom went to Sloan Kettering. They removed the lump, left a nice neat barely visible scar and said the cancer was DEAD…

THEN they talked to her Strong Memorial doctor — actual nick name THE BUTCHER — and refused to have her continue as their patient.

The good ole’ Butcher put her on EXPERIMENTAL chemo and Mom started having heart attacks… Thanks to the ACS Chem Engineering News, I had read an article that said Chemo was causing problems with the heart. Unfortunately I did not have the article to show Mom or the Doctors. I talked to Mom’s cancer doctor and got — “I know nothing about the heart.” I talked to her heart Doctor and got — “I know nothing about chemo.”

FINALLY I talked Mom into quitting the chemo. She died a week later age 62.

Valerie Curren

Oh Gail this must have been so horrifying to live through & the horrors cannot ever really diminish no matter how far back in the rearview mirror they might seem to recede.

My Grandma had breast cancer that metastasized into the lymph nodes & then the brain in the late ’70’s. She was undergoing chemo &/or radiation, I don’t recall which, & I remember her crying (like you described your mom above) which wasn’t like her at all. I also remember her hair falling out in clumps which she showed me once when they were staying at our house to get her “treatments”. When she was near death she wouldn’t let go until she’d seen, & hopefully reconciled with, her daughter.

What a horrible way to decline & die! There are not enough reparations in the world to undo the evil that was done to your mom  😡 


Patrick has certainly managed to brainwash his cult.

I hate hearing that you were shouted down like that because, as you say, it means people are brainwashed. Could they be paid trolls? It’s dangerous for people to not know or face the truth.

I knew a man whom I saw off and on over the years. The skin on his face, especially his nose, looked like he might have recovered from burns. It wasn’t disfiguring, but was noticeable. I did not find out until after he died that he was a WWII vet who was in the vicinity of the “Trinity” detonation. I don’t know how close he was. Thankfully, he lived a long and seemingly healthy life. But nuclear is real!


Trinity was the code name of the first detonation of a nuclear weapon. It was conducted by the United States Army at 5:29 a.m. MWT (11:29:21 GMT) on July 16, 1945, as part of the Manhattan Project. 

Valerie Curren

Another gem seen at Stella’s (I haven’t been there in a while):

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The denial of transplant really jumps out at me given that yesterday was the 10th Anniversary of my son Josiah’s Liver Transplant. I don’t know how we as a species will ever fully move beyond the horrors of the cumulative covid crimes!

In case anyone’s interested, I did a post for the transplant anniversary…God is good!

Gail Combs

Covid was an example of HOW Hitler manipulated the Germans into becoming killing machines AND that Americans are not immune to the same type of manipulation.

It is a very very hard lesson to learn and unfortunately it looks like those who are NOT learning the lesson and went along with the Deathshot scam may die sooner rather than later.

Valerie Curren

It is sobering to realize that we, as a society, are no better than those Germans duped into all the horrors of the (lead up to & the) Holocaust…God help & forgive us all & give us strength & wisdom to move forward into freedom & health…


Not only should we never forget what happened during COVID and what people were willing to do to others, but we should never forget that that potential is always present. IMO that mindset is part of being prepared for what might come, along with gathering food, water, supplies, and the like. We have to be prepared for what people can be led to do to their fellow man. It’s unfortunate, but things are not all rosy, and watchfulness and wariness are warranted. People have to earn trust. Once trust is broken, as it is now after COVID, it’s very hard to earn it back.

I think of Nazi Germany and what people did to others. There was a clear enemy, and we could think of ourselves as being better than that. But the potential for evil exists in all mankind, sadly. People tell you who they are; you just have to pay attention.

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Valerie Curren

It seems for covid that we’ve met the enemy & he is us 🙁

Cuppa Covfefe

My Jewish cello professor at USC, who escaped certain death under the NAZIs with her sister via the Dutch Underground said to me one time that they had no idea of what was really going on, almost until it was too late. She said that the Jews in Germany were “more German than Germans” (same in other countries, e.g. more Spanish than Spaniards), to the point that it blinded them to what was going on. They couldn’t believe that anyone would be so cruel and evil to do what the NAZIs did.

In a sense we suffer the same problem. We cannot conceive of the abject Satanic evil of which the DEMONRATS, WEFfenSS, RINOS, TLAs, and other monsters are capable.

We cannot think that way as it is totally unplowed mental/moral ground for us.

We need to suspend our disbelief and extend our discernment before it becomes the end of us…..

The entertainment biz and the “ed biz” (same horse, different paint) have conditioned us to accept everything fed to us by the white coats (and brown shirts) without question. Time for the sheeple to pull the wool off from their eyes, and show a lot more wolf and a lot less timidity and “tolerance” against the crooked GEBs (as they call them over at Chiefios)…

And the Gore-Bull warming scam (Phil Jones, UEA, the Manniac and the “State Penn”, and the various media and academia Climastrologists) and “Carbon Credits” were the alpha-test of how much and how quickly can the people be fooled… We’re seeing it now. Wonder whatever became of Harry Readme and the third tranch of Climategate emails, etc., ensconced in a zip archive, with 10 (12?) people having the key, yet NONE of them released any of it. Wonder what threats they received…


Valerie Curren
Thank the Almighty God (and also you, for your tenacity) that this the 10-year anniversary of the operation.

IMO, the “ordinary people” will start waking up to what they aided and abetted when THEY THEMSELVES start to present with COVID-19 “vaccine”-engendered injuries, illnesses, disabilities, and worse.
Yours Truly believes that the medical professionals who got “vaccinated” did this for the following “reasons” —

One: their employer said they’d lose their job / teaching position / ability to get research grants, if they didn’t comply and get “vaccinated” (FEAR);
Two; the AMA / their medical professional organization said the “vaccines” would help them “be there to treat really sick people” (DRANK THE “COVID KOOLAID”);
Three: the AMA / their medical professional organization said that they could face “professional discipline” or even “revocation of the license to practice medicine” if they didn’t comply and get “vaccinated” (FEAR.)

Valerie Curren

Similar actions were taken, or at least threatened, by some states, like here in Michigan, if either a physician prescribed &/or a pharmacist dispensed IVM &/or HCQ. It’s all so horrifying & monstrously evil. I doubt these professions will ever regain their credibility, stature, or reputations in our lifetimes, or even those of our kids  😡 

Valerie Curren

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Gail Combs

Note the red 1/2 of the ass is ass-backwards. 😉

Valerie Curren

as it should be LOL nice catch 😉

Cuppa Covfefe

Sort of a “pull-me pull-you” from Dr. Doolittle…


“We are the choices that we make…”

  • Francesca Johnson

If a person chooses to side with the Democrats/ socialists/communists, whether or not they are aware of it, they are choosing the side of pure evil.

Valerie Curren

Yes this is pretty much tragically true. It’s so sad for those people that aren’t paying attention who think the Dems “still” (did they Ever Really) stand up for the little guy…sigh…

Valerie Curren

Valerie Curren

Here’s another Small Town meme 🙂

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Valerie Curren

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Cuppa Covfefe

And he’s the one who fired MacArthur…

How different things would be had MacArthur been able to reach Peking…

Valerie Curren

Such beauty & serenity. Thank you Lord for revealing yourself in your creation!

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Valerie Curren

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Gail Combs

A concept the Marxists use frequently.

Cuppa Covfefe

Interesting, those papers are German… have to enlarge them a bit to see what they’re saying/what paper they are…

Valerie Curren

let us know if anything important pops us 🙂

Valerie Curren

Kind of a magical forest view in which to envision our tree house habitat 🙂

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Valerie Curren

no words…

Gail Combs

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Valerie Curren

one Billion%

Valerie Curren

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Cuppa Covfefe

And who could forget this one… although now I see that he was framed, and the DEMONRATS used (and are using) the same tactics against VSGPDJT..

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Valerie Curren

one for the ages…

The Second Coming Launch Audio in a New Window


Turning and turning in the widening gyre   
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere