Dear KAG: 20231017 Open Thread

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Badlands News Brief – October 16, 2023

Why American Jews AND Muslims Should Wake Up to the Idiocy of the Left

Trump is Surging

NHL expands ban on LGBT ‘pride’ gear to include hockey stick tape

Realtors Face an Antitrust Reckoning

Dread Carnival

DP – personally, that Burning Bright piece is a must read. One of his best so far, IMO.

Democrats Bring Back the Salem Witch Trials

Shadow Government Exposed

The Israel-Hamas War Is Splitting Conservatives Apart and That’s Not a Bad Thing

Top Biden Intel Official Outed as Palestinian Activist Has Some Very Dark Associates

Trump easily outsmarts Brain Kilmeade and makes Matt Gaetz’s day during Fox interview…

Trump ‘does not have the right to say and do exactly what he pleases,’ Judge Chutkan says, issuing gag order

Uh, isn’t reading the first amendment a prerequisite for being a judge?

Tweet hopper:

Yep.

Meme & Fun hopper:

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Something to remember, always.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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ROMANS 1:16-25

16For I am not ashamed of the gospel: it is the power of God for salvation to every one who has faith, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17For in it the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith; as it is written, “He who through faith is righteous shall live.” 18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth. 19For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse; 21for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. 22Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles. 24Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen.

PSALMS 19:2-5

1The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork. 2Day to day pours forth speech, and night to night declares knowledge. 3There is no speech, nor are there words; their voice is not heard; 4yet their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun,

LUKE 11:37-41

37While he was speaking, a Pharisee asked him to dine with him; so he went in and sat at table. 38The Pharisee was astonished to see that he did not first wash before dinner. 39And the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of extortion and wickedness. 40You fools! Did not he who made the outside make the inside also? 41But give for alms those things which are within; and behold, everything is clean for you.

We music pros really don’t like this one, but it has its moments.

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

Just put a Crucifix on the door, and they won’t bother you.

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cthulhu

Thank you, De Pat, for getting us rolling with a Tubular Tuesday post!

jgreen42

Totally!

cthulhu

Rad!

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

His father is a banana king. As in big big plantations and big big money. He ran for president FIVE times and lost.

His son nailed it on his first attempt. Make of that what you will.

scott467

If his father is a banana king, does that make Ecuador a banana republic, or a banana kingdom?

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pgroup2

It does now, I suppose.

cthulhu

If he and his father have a falling-out, would that be a banana split?

pgroup2

 😂 

Cuppa Covfefe

But never on a Sundae…  🍨 

Brave and Free

His wife looks like a good banana split

cthulhu

Just think, they financed it all with banana bread…..

Cuppa Covfefe

But they were just loafing…

Barb Meier

I always check where the bananas are from before I buy them. I like bananas from Ecuador.

TheseTruths

Helpful guideline for calling Congress to support Jim Jordan:

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pgroup2

It might help if they gave the correct phone number.

It’s 202-225-3121.

The number in the piece is for the Senate.

TheseTruths

Interesting. I’ve seen the number they gave listed in several places as the way to contact the Capitol Switchboard. At any rate, you provided the most direct number.

pgroup2

There are 2 numbers, identical except for the sixth numeral. I always thought it was strange for them to not follow the order in the constitution, where the House is dealt with first in Article 1 and the Senate is second. Maybe they went with the order in section 1.

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TheseTruths

Thousands Flood Congressional Phone Lines Demanding Jim Jordan for Speaker: “They are Literally Melting the Phone Lines”

The grassroots pressure has been so intense that even previous critics within the GOP have started to endorse Jordan. Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, was among the first to change his stance after his office was flooded with phone calls.

It can be recalled that Rogers was willing to make a deal with Democrats rather than vote with Jordan.

“I have decided to support Jim Jordan for Speaker of the House on the floor,” Rogers wrote on Monday…

Other holdouts like Reps. Ken Calvert (R-CA), Ann Wagner (R-MO), and Vern Buchanan (R-FL) have also rallied to Jordan’s side.

As of Monday evening, 8 RINOs are still holding out and refusing to support Chairman Jordan: Reps. Don Bacon (R-NE), Mario Díaz-Balart (R-FL), Carlos Gimenez (R-FL), Frank Lucas (R-OK), John Rutherford (R-FL), Mike Simpson (R-ID), Steve Womack (R-AR), and Ken Buck (R-CO).

The Gateway Pundit reported earlier that a lobbying firm with ties to RINO Mitch McConnell organized a phone call Monday night at 8 ET with GOP Rep. Don Bacon – one of the 8 RINO holdouts refusing to vote in favor of Jim Jordan for House Speaker.

Rep. Bacon remained defiant Monday evening and lashed out at the Republican lawmakers who ousted McCarthy…

Please continue pressuring these RINOs. Call them now!

Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE)

Phone: 202-225-4155

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL)

Phone: 202-225-4211

Rep. Carlos Giménez (R-FL)

Phone: 202-225-2778

Rep. Frank Lucas (R-OK)

Phone: 202-225-5565

Rep. John Rutherford (R-FL)

Phone: 202-225-2501

Rep. Mike Simpson (R-ID)

Phone: 202-225-5531

Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR)

Phone: 202-225-4301

Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO)

Phone: 202-225-4676

Congress – 202-224-3121

Brave and Free

Three reps from FL. interesting. There going to try and flip FL when DeShithead is done. Just like they did after Jeb lite.

pgroup2

That shouldn’t be hard since RDS has shown everybody he didn’t deserve to be governor, let alone re-elected.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, whadaya know. Ken Cuck. My congresscritter.

Time to make a phone call.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

LOL…turns out his number is already in my contacts as “Congresspuke Ken Buck”

rayzorback

I just called my DUMB PHUC Rep Womack here in Arkansas…. told him:
Vote yes for Jim Jordan or be PRIMARIED!

Robert Baker

Arkansas diplomacy.  :wpds_grin: 

pgroup2

So subtle.

TheseTruths

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*There is no evidence that Japan’s Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said, “You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass,” but it’s a great rallying cry and meme.

pgroup2

Allow me to be a contrarian and point out that there’s no evidence he DIDN’T say it.

TheseTruths

Contrarianship allowed. (I just made up a new word. 😂)

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

“A special kind of stupid.”

scott467

And yet it is the military that is allowing it to happen.

While military leadership claims they take an oath to the Constitution and not to a ‘wannabe dictator’ or an individual.

What part of the Constitution (or their sworn oath to uphold it) authorizes the military to stand down when enemies both foreign and domestic commit an insurrection to steal the Executive Branch of government?

What part of the Constitution authorizes the military to stand down when the same enemies (both foreign and domestic) who stole the Executive Branch facilitate the invasion of our country by 5+ million foreign fighting age men?

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It’s not a collective oath to the Constitution, it’s an individual oath.

Every man and woman individually and personally swears an oath, to God, to uphold the Constitution.

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https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/swearing-in-for-military-service.html

The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted):”I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

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The Oath of Office (for officers):”I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.”

Before you raise your right hand, make sure you understand what you are swearing or attesting to. The military oath of enlistment or oath of office should not be taken lightly. You will be bound by it for the next 4-6 years at a minimum.
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So what does this Constitution say, which they swear an oath to God, to uphold?

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Constitution for the united States of America:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Article I, Section VII, Constitution:

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
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That an insurrection, by enemies both foreign and domestic, to steal the Executive Branch during the 2020 election, is not in doubt. The military is obligated by their oath to uphold the Constitution, which expressly includes to suppress insurrection.

Insurrection
Noun
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

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Article III, Section III, Constitution:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
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What greater aid and comfort could be given an enemy, than to stand down and allow 5+ million invaders to waltz right into the country, unopposed?

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Whether Trump is actually in charge, or whether Brandon/Hussein is in charge, in neither case can the military allow the insurrection that took place, or the invasion of our country by 5+ million foreign military aged men.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The oath references the Constitution…but it says directly that they will follow the orders of POTUS.

A direct statement as opposed to I will follow this other document, is going to be more powerful in the minds of the oathtaker.

I’m not claiming you’re technically wrong; just trying to explain the psychology.

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pgroup2

ThanQ for that ray of sunshine.

scott467

“The oath references the Constitution…but it says directly that they will follow the orders of POTUS.”

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And yet when you ask them, and even when you don’t, they INSIST, vigorously, that their loyalty and allegiance is to the CONSTITUTION, and not to any man.

Because the ‘man’ could be a ‘wannabe dictator’.

Right from the traitor Milley’s mouth:

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general Milley: “[cut off, We don’t take an oath] to a country, we don’t take an oath to a tribe, we don’t take an oath to a religion, we don’t take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a dictator, and we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator.

We don’t take an oath to an individual.

We take an oath to the Constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that is America, and we’re willing to die to protect it.

Every Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine, Guardian and Coast Guardsmen. Each of us commits our very life to protect and defend that document, regardless of personal price.”
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This is the POS who called his chyna counterpart, behind President Trump’s back, to let his CCP counterpart know what his Commander in Chief, the POTUS, was doing, and that he would give his CCP counterpart a ‘heads up’ if any threat to chyna was imminent.

This video below is hosted by some law dog who hates Trump. He has 2.33 million subscribers, the video has 1.3 million views.

Lots of military are subscribers and they hate Trump too, and they’ll tell you that their oath is to the Constitution, not to some piece of garbage like Trump.

Here’s the very top comment under the video:

anniehills3580: “No, WE DO NOT TAKE AN OATH FOR A MAN. WE TAKE AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND OUR COUNTRY. FROM ALL TERRORISTS, FORIEGN AND DOMESTIC!!”

highlighted reply:
ackbooh9032: “As Milley rightfully said: we do NOT take an oath to a country. The Constitution is a system of government, not a plot of land, not a culture, not a country.”

So the first person says they do take an oath to defend the country, but second one specifically says he doesn’t take an oath to defend the country, apparently he literally stands guard over a piece of paper.

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scott467

“The oath references the Constitution…but it says directly that they will follow the orders of POTUS.”

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I am confident they are forbidden to follow an unlawful order.

Any POTUS who openly and blatantly stole an election in order to steal the Executive Branch is not a lawful POTUS and therefore can give no lawful order.

Besides all that, if the oath doesn’t mean what it plainly says it means, they should eliminate the parts of the oath that don’t mean what they clearly say, and that they won’t be following anyway.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

True that they say no one should follow an illegal order.

But…

I can only imagine what happens, short term, to a soldier who refuses an order and insists its illegal. He probably gets brought up on insubordination charges at the very least. Then he likely has to prove the order was illegal (yes, that’s the burden of proof on the defendant). And IF he makes it stick, and gets out of the charge of insubordination, I’m sure his career is finished anyway, because very few COs will want someone who successfully defied an order.

Now if someone with actual military experience has experience to the contrary about what actually happens (not what the regs say should happen) to a serviceman who insists an order is illegal…please chime in.

scott467

I wouldn’t expect anyone from OUR military to refuse an order from a criminal commanding officer unless they are ready to do what Egypt or Myanmar did.

And clearly the American military gurls and bois aren’t made of that kind of stuff today.

Apparently our military will be following the German example, and pleading “I was just following orders” at Nuremberg II.

I would love to be proven wrong of course.

They don’t even engage with the American public, not about what they think or believe, or anything else, they might as well be alien invaders themselves.

So I expect zero patriotism or loyalty to America or the Constitution (which was created to SERVE and PROTECT Americans!) from our military today, because that is all we ever see from the military.

They follow the orders of the Deep State and go around killing people all over the world for the Deep State, protecting and defending Ukraine’s borders (for example), but they don’t defend America or our own border, and they don’t see any problem with that dichotomy.

If I’m wrong, SHOW me.

But if anyone in the U.S. military today is too emasculated to be like Egypt’s or Myanmar’s military, the least they can do is resign.

Where are the droves of patriots resigning in protest to anything the illegitimate and lawless Brandon administration is doing?

Where are they?

Oh, that’s right, they’re in Ukraine fighting for Nazis on behalf of Big Phamra and Big Bio-weapon Lab and Big Child Trafficking and Big Money Laundering.

Or on the way to Israel to do the Deep State’s bidding like tin-pot dictatorship mercenaries, while they leave our southern border wide open to invasion by 5+ million fighting age men from every hell hole on earth.

That’s what our military is doing.

If I’m wrong, if my understanding is in error about how our military has completely checked out regarding their obligation and duty to defend and protect America, if our military is anything more than a rubber-stamp for Deep State globalist policy enforcement, please let me know.

I don’t want to be right.

I’d love to be wrong.

Show me.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No argument from me on that point.

scott467

How about the police?

What about their oath?

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https://police-brutality.usattorneys.com/do-police-swear-an-oath-to-the-constitution/

Oath.
State and local police generally swear an oath to the United States Constitution, as civil service or uniformed service officers, stating:

“I, officer name, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

This section does not affect other oaths required by law. Language may include “… to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States [and of your state] against all enemies, foreign or domestic” so that state agencies are specifically named. 
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So much for oaths meaning anything at all.

What meaning do concepts like ‘honor’ and ‘duty’ have, to those who ignore their own oaths to protect and defend the Constitution, a Constitution which was created and ratified by the People to protect and defend the People of these united States?!?

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

scott467

Clandestine: “I love how the public are willing to blindly believe Israeli MIL without evidence.”

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Believing Israeli MIL is not the issue, the issue is that HamISIS has zero credibility.

So anything that anyone says, including Israeli MIL, is more credible than HamISIS.

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Clandestine: “But when Russian MIL accuses the US of creating bioweapons, accompanied with the paper trail, US grants, photos inside the facilities, with detailed reports to the UN…”

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Believing Russian MIL is not the issue, the issue is that U.S. gov’t / NATO has zero credibility.

So anything that anyone says, including Russian MIL, is more credible than U.S. gov’t / NATO.

So what can we learn from this?

U.S. gov’t / NATO has the same credibility as HamISIS, because they are both super villains.

Anything said by anyone, besides U.S / NATO or HamISIS, is more credible.

Aubergine

THIS is entirely my point with the conflict in Israel.

Is the Israeli government great? No. Am I a fan? No.

But for God’s sake, Hamas, the ELECTED government of Gaza, just went on a killing rampage, murdering babies and children, mothers, old people, and innocents.

Those people have ZERO credibility. ZERO. I would believe Chris Wray before I believed anything they said. And that fucker lies when he breathes!

pgroup2

‘An I for an I for an I.’

There’s more where that came from.

TheseTruths

Aye yi yi!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

Cuppa Covfefe

I, I, I I
I am the Biden Bandito…

Brave and Free

#4 insanity

Aubergine

#5 incontinence

Gail Combs

  :wpds_envy:   :wpds_chuckle:   :wpds_lol: 

pat frederick

bwahahahahaha

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Another one for the “I wish this sassy gal were single” file…

Aubergine

Lol! Thanks, again.

Cuppa Covfefe

Runs for the border
(to paraphrase a TacoBell commercial) 🙂

Aubergine

Lol!

TheseTruths

Rep. Don Bacon was one of the holdouts against Jim Jordan, but I don’t know his current status.

Hey @RepDonBacon

How come you co signed a “Domestic Terrorism” bill #HR350 with 204 Democrats which would put a target on the back of conservatives, while ignoring any scrutiny of Antifa or BLM terrorist acts?

I agree with @GuntherEagleman calling you a fraud

EDIT: He’s still a major holdout.

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PAVACA

IIRC, that Rep. Fred Upton was a major force behind the banning of incandescent light bulbs and the introduction of that nasty, expensive LED / quasi-florescent junk.

Gail Combs
scott467

I bought a couple hundred dollars’ worth of regular incandescent light bulbs earlier this year, from the only source where I could find them, on Amazon.

Enough to last at least 5 years.

If the clusterfark of our country isn’t resolved by DJT by then, not having a decent light bulb will be the least of our concerns.

PAVACA

Yes, all the way back in 2010. Then he had to walk it back. But by 2014, the government was issuing “regulations” for the emission of wattage and other things from light bulbs, so the LED / quasi fluorescent stuff began hitting the shelves all over the place. Then the “Biden administration” issued the ban on the sale of incandescent light bulbs this summer.

Gail Combs

It also screws up the sleep cycle. The racing industry uses BLUE LIGHT to bring mares into heat during the winter.

pat frederick

kmart used to do that too

Cuppa Covfefe

The infamous “Blue Light Special” 😀

(but for shoppers 🙂 )…

Cuppa Covfefe

Here are a few links about LED lighting and the problems it causes at Casa de Chiefio 🙂

The light curve that LEDs produce, along with high-frequency “fluttering” (sometimes not so high, as well) caused by crappy PWM supplies and dimmers is VERY problematic, especially to sensitive folks (and can even trigger seizures).

The stroboscopic effect from LEDs (and fluorescents) can be a dangerous problem with power tools as well, as it makes the blades/rotors/etc. seem still. Always have an incandescent in the workshop if there are LEDs or fluorescents there…

There are a bunch more, but here are a few:

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/superchiasmatic-led-light-insomnia

Some quotes:

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Notice that big spike at about 460 nm? That’s the blue that resets your biological clock to “daytime now”.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/daylight-savings-time-2011-white-light-emitting-diodes/story?id=14838491

Until the 21st century, scientists only knew of two types of light-sensitive cells in the eye: rods and cones. But in 2001, David Berson from Brown University established that the eyes of mammals contain a third type of cell for absorbing light.

“This has been a very exciting discovery in the whole world of chronobiology and vision research,” said Jay Neitz, a professor of ophthalmology at the University of Washington in Seattle. “We always thought rods and cones were responsible for circadian rhythms and then we find there’s a particular cell that [sends signals] to the superchiasmatic nucleus, the brain’s central clock important for daily biological rhythms.”

[…]

As it turns out, melanopsin proteins are most sensitive to light in the wavelength range between 440 and 460 nanometers — in between indigo and blue. Many white LED designs create blue light centered at around 450 nm.

A 2005 study by chronobiologists in Basel, Switzerland showed that human volunteers exposed for two hours to 460 nm light at night experienced greater reductions in melatonin, a hormone regulated by the body’s circadian system, than when they were exposed to a roughly yellow-green light with a higher-wavelength of 550 nm.

Melatonin, in addition to helping the body maintain a regular 24-hour rhythm of wakefulness and sleep, is an antioxidant compound that has been shown to protect biological molecules such as DNA.

So those LED bulbs are pumping out a great big peak right on top of the sensitivity peak of the eye for resetting the biological clock.

[https://web.archive.org/web/20111107051131/http://ledsmagazine.com/news/8/9/12]

Electromagnetic Spectra of Light Bulbs

L. David Roper and Michael Rosenzweig

http://roperld.com/science/ElectromagneticSpectraofLightBulbs.htm

And another post and test of some bulbs. In his quest for an acceptable LED bulb, he goes into more detail and references about what makes LEDs and, to a lesser extent, fluorescents a poor substitute for incandescents. Well worth the read:

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/09/17/review-feit-electric-enhance-led-bulb-60-w-equiv-for-9-w

And finally, Bye,Done’s end of the line for real light, and some great suggestions for getting around it: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2023/07/16/last-call-real-lightbulbs-how-to-for-long-life-bulbs

He has lots of good suggestions in that article, although he got the 100-year lightbulb in a firehouse wrong: it’s in Livermore, CA (stupid me, we lived there for a couple of years and never went to see it… sigh). If you’re in the area, it’s a piece of history worth seeing…

Over here I did a “hamster kauf” of a couple of hundred bulbs of various wattages (100,75,60,40, and even 25) and types (clear, frosted, frosted globes of different sizes).
As the EU banned this stuff years ago…

What I do is put as much as I can on dimmers, using larger wattages than I normally would, dimmed down 10-20 percent (sometimes 50 percent). The bulbs last forever that way. With 10 percent dimmer, the bulb life goes up by a factor of 10 (it seems). The efficiency, of course, goes down, but it’s a fair trade. And the slightly dimmed lights are warmer color-wise, so that’s an added bonus. And GangGreenGreta can go whistle…

scott467

And we just keep taking it.

cthulhu

The only thing good about Fred Upton is his niece.

Cuppa Covfefe

Didn’t Billy Joel write a song about her?

“Upton Girl” 😀 ….

(ducks and runs from “Greatest Hits”, CD cartridges, heavy fan articles 🙂 )…

TheseTruths

On October 17, 1752, Founding Father Jacob Broom was born.

https://www.theconstitutional.com/blog/2019/12/30/jacob-broom-one-americas-founding-fathers

Broom’s deeply held pacifist beliefs as a Quaker prevented him from participating in the Revolutionary War.

Broom became involved in Wilmington, Delaware politics, and he was elected to the position of Vice-Mayor of Wilmington in 1776, a position which he held for six more terms, and he also served multiple terms as Mayor of Wilmington.

In the aftermath of the Revolutionary War, Broom became an outspoken proponent of a stronger central government and was named as a member of the Constitutional Convention which met in Philadelphia in the Summer of 1787. At the Constitutional Convention, Broom helped to debate, draft and sign the United States Constitution

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Jacob Broom Statue in Signers’ Hall at the National Constitution Center

TheseTruths

“I Am Willing to Go to Jail – If That’s What It Takes for Our Country to Win and Become a Democracy Again!” – President Trump Responds to Obama Judge’s Unconstitutional Gag Order (VIDEO)
PDJT would willingly go to jail for us and for America. 🇺🇸🫡
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(*In before someone says it’s not a democracy.)
democracy
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

I like the distinction of a representative republic vs. a pure democracy, but I don’t think we’ll be able to keep people from using “democracy” in the sense of government of, by, and for the people.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Things are getting very interesting!

Gail Combs

…Her role in presiding over Donald J. Trump’s criminal trial further solidified her reputation as a fair and competent judge.

As we continue to witness her contributions to the legal system, it is essential to remember the values instilled in her during her upbringing in Jamaica—a testament to the power of family and a nurturing environment in shaping an individual’s path to success….

Though details about her early life are scarceJudge Tanya Chutkan’s parents, whose names remain undisclosed, continue to be subjects of curiosity. As of now, reputable media outlets have not divulged this information. Nonetheless, it is clear that Tanya shares a strong bond with her parents, choosing to safeguard their identities instead of exposing them to the public eye…

https://www.current-affairs.org/who-are-judge-tanya-chutkan-parents/

  :wpds_envy: 

Is she another OBAMA??? A born and TRAINED CIA ASSET???

pgroup2

Strong bond??? Where’s the evidence for that?

Possibly the author has been sniffing unicorn flatulence again. And how the heck did Tanya fill out the application form to be a fed judge (how many people know that fed govt don’t come lookin’ for you to be judge)?

Did she leave that part blank? How many blank spaces are allowed?

Are her parents in prison? If not, should they be?

What is her position on Creole voodoo?

I could go on …

pat frederick

i didn’t know that…thanks!

Gail Combs

“…how the heck did Tanya fill out the application form to be a fed judge (how many people know that fed govt don’t come lookin’ for you to be judge)?….”

So the Bitch ACTIVELY WENT AFTER A JUDGESHIP…

THANKQ for that info

pgroup2

They all do.

Somebody might whisper in his/her ear that there are people ready to lobby for his/her nomination. The actual first step is to apply to be nominated to fill the vacant seat.

Why does he/she have to apply? To make sure that all the effort to get someone before the Senate for confirmation isn’t wasted on someone who doesn’t want the job.

Barb Meier

Not sure, but think her parents are still in Jamaica. She didn’t come here until college. I’m sure it is an interesting story. If we had journalists.

pgroup2

I’ve become so disillusioned by this I could scream. The turning point for my complete despair came when a certain fairly well-known tea partier, in the midst of his talk to our tea party on the constitution, used the d word.

It was at that point I decided the battle was hopeless.

[Look up the definition in a dictionary from a century ago. I’ll bet it was different. America does not have a free electoral system.]

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TheseTruths

It was at that point I decided the battle was hopeless.

Yes, that’s where I am too. It doesn’t hurt to keep making the distinction, but expecting everyone to do it will only lead to frustration.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The problem is that “Democracy” in this sense is a very specific thing, one man, one vote, every issue, no contraints. So the complaint is that the term is being misapplied to describe something that isn’t that.

Whereas a “republic” literally is any form of government that doesn’t have a monarch. The USSR was a republic. So are all those “banana republics.”

But we are invited to imagine that the founders wanted a republic (and yes, even by the founders themselves, cf. Ben Franklin). And that makes sense. They’d just gone through a lot of effort to get rid of a monarcy.

But then, you have to ask: Well, what KIND of republic?

Nothing about the word “Republic” all by itself implies protection of natural rights or even a constitution, yet we in the “right” side of American politics act as if it does. The problem is we don’t have a single word that means all of this…so we insist on (mis)using “republic” for it. And others will misuse “democracy” for it.

So we bitch about “democracy” being misused on things that have rule by the people but not absolute unconstrained rule by the people…but then we somehow insist a “republic” should mean something a lot more specific than it does.

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scott467

“Nothing about the word “Republic” all by itself implies protection of natural rights or even a constitution, yet we in the “right” side of American politics act as if it does.”

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Because the American communists have claimed the term ‘Democracy’ to represent their corrupt designs on the American People.

So every time they shill their CommuNazi attacks on our country and on our People, they do so in the name of “our democracy”.

So I have grown to HATE the term ‘democracy’, because regardless of what it used to mean, today it means furthering the destruction of freedom and everything America was founded upon by those who seek to destroy America.

TheseTruths

2016 Rival Bobby Jindal Endorses Trump, Calls for Party to Unify

“I just had a great conversation with President Trump, and I told him that he has my full and complete endorsement to win back the White House and Make America Great Again!” Jindal wrote in a post on X Monday.

Jindal asserted that Trump “will be the Republican nominee, and everyone knows that, especially the Democrats who are already spending millions attacking him in an attempt to destroy him.” 

“And we Republicans should stop helping them by fighting amongst ourselves, and instead, unite to win the general election. Some of the others running are friends who I have known for a while,” Jindal said.

While Jindal respects their “right to run and decide when to stop,” he called for unity, stating that the “sooner [Republicans] combine forces, the better.”

“Lastly, and this is the most important thing — WE ARE IN DANGER OF LOSING THIS COUNTRY,” Jindal warned. “The wolf is at the door, and this is true in terms of every issue, from economics, to culture, to foreign policy.”

Jindal commended Trump for bringing “order” to the Middle East during his presidency, being the “first president to identify China as America’s top security threat,” and fighting “to secure our border,” which “was becoming more secure during his tenure.” 

Jindal was one of a myriad of candidates in the 2016 field and suspended his campaign in November 2015 ahead of the Iowa Caucuses. 

A voice of reason and truth.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I always liked Bobby Jindal.

scott467

““Lastly, and this is the most important thing — WE ARE IN DANGER OF LOSING THIS COUNTRY,” Jindal warned.

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The country was lost on January 20, 2021.

We are an occupied nation since that date.

.

“The wolf is at the door, and this is true in terms of every issue, from economics, to culture, to foreign policy.””

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The wolf is not at the door, the wolf is running the country.

His name is B. Hussein Obama, and he is CONSTITUTIONALLY PROHIBITED from serving a THIRD TERM, much less his FIRST term.

Not that the military gives a flying #*&^ about the Constitution they swore an oath to uphold.

pgroup2

‘Full and complete endorsement’

Wonder where he got that phrase.  😆 

Clever of him, making a very subtle pitch for a cabinet appointment. Personally, I think he’d be a good choice for AG.

TheseTruths

😂😅🤣

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California Democratic Congressman Brad Sherman says, “I would think that any reasonable Republican would be somebody that Democrats could work with — if it was part of a system where you didn’t have five of the most extreme Republicans blocking important legislation and saying, ‘If you bring that to the floor for a vote, we’ll knock you out of your Speakership.’”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/rep-brad-sherman-calls-george-w-bush-be/

Whatever you do, don’t rock the boat. The Dems and RINOs get seasick and might fall overboard.

cthulhu

I got three words to say about that: “nuc-u-lar.”

TheseTruths

😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They really think we’re stupid.

scott467

I don’t think it ever occurs to them to care what we think.

At all, even in the slightest way.

We the People don’t even exist to them.

Ozzytrumpster

Fuck no

scott467

That’s a big 10-4! 👍😂

Robert Baker

That says so much about President Bush.

pgroup2

President Shrub. Still better than algore would have been. But not by much.

Robert Baker

I find no avenue to attack your opinion. As they say, the truth is unassailable.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I dunno about that “not by much.”

Not that I think highly of Gush, but Bore would have been a LOT worse.

Cuppa Covfefe

To paraphrase William F. Buckley, “I’d rather be gored by a boar than bored by a Gore.”…..

Gail Combs

Straight up CRIMINAL COMMUNIST…

pgroup2

… after barfing in the boat.

Cuppa Covfefe

He should be floating in a sewer…  💩 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Horrifying. Two-tier justice based on politics.

Gail Combs

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!

…Ted Hudacko, who had a right to know about his son’s medical progress, did not learn about the surgery until Oct. 18, 2021, when his ex-wife notified him. He told The Daily Signal that he recalled wondering, “Why is there a $209,820.34 charge on my insurance?”

…“No, I’m supportive because I want to protect my child’s health. I don’t want to subject him to being a guinea pig in an experiment,” Ted Hudacko said. He mentioned 👉growing list of doctors in the U.S. and elsewhere who warn that medical interventions aimed at making a male appear female or vice versa—often euphemistically termed “gender-affirming care”—are experimental and not advisable.

[Asaf Orr is unF..KING BELEIVABLE!]

Asaf Orr, who served as the legal director for the Child and Adolescent Gender Center at UCSF at the time of Drew’s surgery and whose name appears on Drew’s medical documents, requested that Ted Hudacko remove him from the legal action.

“I do not represent UCSF or any of the parties in this matter. As a result, I cannot accept service on their behalf,” Orr wrote, according to Ted Hudacko’s GiveSendGo account.

“We believe Mr. Orr has been properly served, but you can see that these vandals don’t want to be held accountable for their acts of destruction,” Ted Hudacko wrote in response. “Ironic that this self-styled ‘civil rights’ attorney violated MY civil rights as a parent, sterilized my son, and now evades accountability.”

Orr has a long history of advocating for “gender-affirming care.” He worked at the National Center for Lesbian Rights for 11 years, directing the “Transgender Youth Project” from September 2019 to February 2023. Orr has lectured at the University of California, Berkeley Law School, served as adjunct faculty at Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles, and lectured across the country—and even across the world in South Korea—on transgender custody issues.

He was the lead author of the Human Rights Campaign‘s “guide for supporting transgender students in K-12 schools” and he taught a continuing legal education course sponsored by the Contra Costa County Bar Association in October 2022. The course satisfied California’s legal training requirements and aimed to equip attorneys representing minors when handling custody disputes when one parent of a self-proclaimed transgender child supports “gender-affirming care” and the other does not.

In that training (first reported by The Washington Free Beacon), Orr criticized “non-supportive” parents, saying their disagreement with the child’s stated gender identity causes “harm.”

“I think it’s really critical for the parent to recognize that their actions have been harmful and if they’re willing to change their behavior, it’s really critical that [the children] have those bonds with their parents,” Orr said.

“But if a parent is refusing to do the act consistent with the standards of care and what the providers are recommending, I think that’s really difficult,” he added.

He insisted that a parent’s First Amendment rights do not “include imposing that on their children.”

“There are going to be situations where, for example, a parent has deeply-held religious beliefs, political beliefs, that make it impossible for them to come to a position where they can be engaging in the kind of accepting behaviors the child needs,” he said. “When you’re talking about the rights of a child, their right to exist and be free of harm supersedes the right to speak about your beliefs.”…

SO MAIMING A CHILD FOR LIFE USING EXPERIMENTAL PROCEDURES is ‘loving’ but a parent trying to DEFEND the child from an ELECTIVE LIFE ALTERING EXPERIMENTAL PROCEDURE MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE CHILD???

EXCLUSIVE: Doctors Expose Just How Experimental ‘Gender-Affirming Care’ Truly Is in Florida Medicaid Case

…Hruz and other doctors argue that the medical interventions often described as “gender-affirming care” are experimental and that the organizations that present standards of care supporting them—the World Professional Association for Transgender Health and the Endocrine Society—represent more a political and advocacy effort than an objective analysis supporting these alleged treatments.

AHCA asked WPATH and the Endocrine Society to hand over the documents they used to craft their treatment protocols, but the organizations at first declined, then handed over a limited selection of documents that AHCA found insufficient. AHCA calls “the continued reluctance” of these organizations “significant, especially when [the LGBT groups] and their experts rely extensively on the WPATH standards of care and the Endocrine Society’s guidelines.”

Dr. Stephen B. Levine, a psychiatrist and early proponent of transgender medical interventions, joined and briefly helped lead the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association, which later became WPATH. A member from 1974 to 2001, he served as the chairman of the eight-person International Standards of Care Committee that issued the fifth version of the standards of care.

In his affidavit, Levine notes that he resigned his membership in 2002 due to “my regretful conclusion that the organization and its recommendations had become dominated by politics and ideology, rather than by scientific process, as it was years earlier.” He condemns the WPATH standards of care as “not an impartial or evidence-based document.”…

Levine explicitly calls transition and affirmation “experimental therapies that have not been shown to improve mental or physical health outcomes by young adulthood,” and warns that these therapies “do not decrease, and may increase, the risk of suicide.”

He further warns that hormonal interventions “are experimental procedures that have not been proven safe.” So-called puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones can have negative effects on fertility, bone density, brain development, and psychosocial well-being….

pgroup2

Orr is damn fortunate that he butchered a kid whose father wasn’t one of several former clients of mine. He would not be able to be served with contempt papers because he’d already be worm food.

Gail Combs

Yeah,
I wouldn’t want to do that to some of my neighbors kids!

Cuppa Covfefe

“Gender-affirming”… BS.

Gender-destroying is what it is.

Typical Satanic lies, replacing the truth with twisted perversions…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly.

cthulhu

Yesterday, I had a video with Tony Levin playing Stick with Peter Gabriel.

He’s been playing Stick for a while…..

This is King Crimson with Robert Fripp, Bill Bruford, Adrian Belew, and Tony.

cthulhu

An exercise in counting the time —

cthulhu

TBH, I was almost as excited seeing Tony Levin as I was seeing Peter Gabriel.

Valerie Curren

TY Cthulhu…I sent this link to my husband as I thought this is what you were referring to in another comment to me. Blessings!

scott467

Stick with the video, it’s only 1:48 long:

Gail Combs

I can not watch without logging onto Twatter. I refuse to get an account.

Barb Meier

This works as a Twit replacement for me: https://nitter.net/Covid19Critical/status/1713966736108642399

Gail Combs

Thank Q!!!

I am going to share that with a neighbor. (Three Clot Shots and joint pain.)

scott467

I just saw this posted by kea, over at Marica’s:

.

scott467

Trump ‘does not have the right to say and do exactly what he pleases,’ Judge Chutkan says
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Yes, he does.

What is at issue, is whether some corrupt hack of a compromised judge has the lawful authority to violate his right.

And I think we’re going to find out, you hack.

scott467

There might be a glimmer of hope that this conflict will deescalate.

Russia are introducing a ceasefire proposal to the UN tomorrow, Iran said they will not intervene, and countries are urging Israel not to conduct a ground assault in Gaza.

Perhaps we can at least avoid WW3.

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) October 16, 2023

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Why on earth should it “deescalate”, when until or unless every hostage is released, there is still a crime against humanity in progress?!?

Why is Russia and the entire UN not calling for HamISIS to release all hostages immediately?

Negotiation necessarily rewards the perpetrators for their atrocities.

The lawful authorities have an obligation to pursue justice, to include the obliteration of a square mile of Gaza every 5 minutes until or unless all hostages are released, if they so choose.

If BLM or panti-fa kidnaps Clandestine’s family and rapes and tortures them on video for the entertainment of the masses, and holds them hostage for more rape and torture, is Clandestine going to advocate for ‘deescalation’, whatever the *&^% that means?

Maybe Clandestine would like to offer to exchange himself, or his children, or his wife, or his mother, for some of the hostages?

His thoughts on ‘deescalation’ would be much more convincing, if his own skin — or the skin of someone he actually cares about — was in the game.

Since the skin of innocent strangers appears to be inconsequential to him.

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Gail Combs

Either BB or Kyle said the ‘2 state solution’ can not be implemented UNTIL the terrorists are WIPED OUT. I agree. You do not want a Terrorist State as a neighbor.

scott467

“Either BB or Kyle said the ‘2 state solution’ can not be implemented UNTIL the terrorists are WIPED OUT.”

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Unless islam as a belief system is confronted and made into a pariah belief system like Nazism, the terrorists can never be ‘wiped out’, because you can’t take the mass-murderer (and raper, and hostage taker) out of islam.

Terrorism cannot be separated or distinguished from islam, because terrorism is inherent to islam.

A) islam is terrorism — literally. It is a belief system of hostile aggression that achieves its political, social, cultural and religious objectives by heinous and barbaric acts of violence, i.e., terrorism

So long as this fundamental truth is officially unrecognized, by weak political officials in the West who worship at the altar of political-correctness, the inherent violence that is islam will always be enabled by the societies on which islam preys.

B) so long as Palestine is adjacent to Israel, islamic countries will never stop sending more HamISIS into Palestine

So a ‘two state solution’ is not possible, so long as islam exists and/or Palestine is adjacent to Israel.

A two-state solution might be possible if Palestine was relocated somewhere else, or if Israel was relocated somewhere else.

islam is hate-inspired violence. It is not possible to live peaceably with a hate-inspired violent neighbor.

And it is not possible to remove the hate and violence from islam, because hate and violence are fundamental to islam.

To remove hate and violence from islam would be like removing the teaching of Christ from the New Testament.

islam is built on violence from the ground up.

It can’t be sanitized or updated for civilization. It is not possible to make rape and murder ‘acceptable’, and it is not possible to remove rape and murder from the practice of islam without invalidating Mo, the creator of islam.

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Aubergine

More and more, these “conspiracy” grifters are just pissing me right off.

Valerie Curren

I thought Steve was going to want to ask you out for this comment too 😉 😉

Aubergine

Lol!

pgroup2

You have so perfectly stated the essence of his bullshit. Kudos.

Gail Combs

Dread Carnival by Burning Bright 

…It isn’t so much that this community tends to have more answers than our sleeping brothers and sisters, then, but more so, that we engage with the world around us, and more commonly, in the stories we’re told about that world in an active, direct-path manner, while most are content to absorb information passively, a trend and a practice that I and many others would argue allowed the Deep State’s controllers to achieve such ubiquity and psychological dominance over the American sociopolitical zeitgeist in the first place.

So, when I penned my last, admittedly-provocative feature, exploring the difference between ‘real’ and ‘fake’ news wasn’t really my aim, but rather to draw a line in the sand between the earnest asking of questions some might deem some mix of ridiculous or even detrimental to the truth movement as a whole, and the blanket assertion that anything and everything ‘reported’ in the War of Stories is a complete fabrication. [This a swipe at Patrick Gunnels I think – GC]

“… more so, that we engage with the world around us, and more commonly, in the stories we’re told about that world in an active, direct-path manner, while most are content to absorb information passively…

This is the result of our John Dewey Education Model that DELIBERATELY TRAINS CHILDREN NOT TO THINK!

This was a critical first step for the Cabal. Destroying children’s ability to REASON.

…just like questioning whether or not something represents a ‘False Flag’ event is secondary to determining whether or not it occurred in the first place, questioning whether something is real isn’t the same as asserting it’s fake.

The Central Narrative isn’t made up of lies alone.

Like the best liars, the Hegelian Deep State uses an overwhelming array of factual details—noise—to obscure their underlying aims, which should be obvious to any who’ve been toiling in the Info War for any length of time.

In the end, [they] want war. We want peace….

Which is why I said yesterday that the THIRD OPTION — NOT MY PROBLEM is left off the table.

During the ‘Farm Wars’ we encountered the technique being ACTIVELY USED NOW ON US NOW (Again, Gunnels attacking Boomers means younger folk like Burning Bright LOSE THIS KNOWLEDGE!!!).

The Delphi Technique for Controlling Public Meetings – What it is, and how to counter it

In her article USDA Employing Delphi Technique, Marti Oakley describes the opposition we face as we go to the USDA listening sessions. I faced a similar situation when I attended a county meeting to discuss our land being turned over to the local tribe, as well as water rights.

I recognize now that the technique used in that meeting to manipulate the people present was the Delphi Technique. Although not aware of it at the time, I did use the technique described in the following article to counter it. This response came naturally, and was probably due to my former peace officer training. Countering this technique is not difficult, and I recommend it.

Here is a link to an article that describes what the Delphi Technique is:

The Delphi Technique – What Is It?

Here is a link to an article that describes exactly how to counter the technique and get your message across:

The Delphi Technique – How To Disrupt It

When you go to the meetings, make sure to arm yourself with this information. It is invaluable….

Gail Combs

One other point most people forget about. No coordinated ‘Terrorist Attack’ is accomplished without three things:

  1. TRAINING, including PSYOPS:PSYOPS are planned and coordinated Intelligence Operations designed to target people’s vulnerabilities to influence them.Kyle and Burning Bright touched on this. HAMAS are the children and grandchildren of Muslims that were ABUSED by the system put in place by the Brits after WWII. The reasons are long forgotten but the HATE REMAINS.
  2. MONEY
  3. LEADERSHIP

Think of ANTIFA vs the Tea Party. ANTIFA is trained, funded and led while the Tea Party is/was real grassroots.

Gail Combs

So true. It is one of the things Commies did their best to eliminate. MAO is an example of the CULTURAL elimination of the knowledge of old people and history.

Of course the arrogance of youth plays right into the Commies hands.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BQQM.

singingsoul1

In my family three kids mid fifties getting it and my one granddaughter who spend most her time with us is taking after me. She has my middle name and has embraced much of my values. There is hope .

Barb Meier

God is blessing you, Singing. I am so glad for that.

barkerjim

Those last two links take me to https://www.learn-usa.com/computer-technology/, which do not seem to describe the Delphi Technique at all.

Gail Combs

The article is from two decades ago. (Has it really been that long?)

These are the 2004 archived versions:
The Delphi Technique — What Is It?

The Delphi Technique — How to Disrupt It.

They really are trying to HIDE that info. I had to go to Yandex to find the article I was looking for.

This is what you NOW get:

The Delphi method or Delphi technique (/ˈdɛlfaɪ/ DEL-fy; also known as Estimate-Talk-Estimate or ETE) is a structured communication technique or method, originally developed as a systematic, interactive forecasting method which relies on a panel of experts. The technique can also be adapted for use in face-to-face meetings, and is then called mini-Delphi. Delphi has been widely used for business forecasting and has certain advantages over another structured forecasting approach, prediction markets.

WIKI

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barkerjim

Thanks, these work.

Gail Combs

So far they have not scrubbed the Way Back as they did with other articles I reference!

Cuppa Covfefe

Sad to say, I’ve been seeing stuff disappear from the wayback machine, but it might be the EU “filtering” the output… they are REALLY starting to crack down 😡

Gail Combs

Now that CENSORSHIP is ‘out of the closet’ they see no reason to pussyfoot around any more and are now going wholesale book burning bonfires.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. I’m now wishing I’d downloaded a bunch of stuff that appears to be gone forever.

And there are some sites, e.g. Pointman’s, that I wish I could archive in toto, not to “steal” the content, but to preserve it…..

pgroup2

Those Delphi links don’t go to there any more.

Cuppa Covfefe

The Oracle is down for repairs 🙂
(or the Oracle is ‘orrible)…

Valerie Curren

😉 😉

TheseTruths

I’m interested in learning about the Delphi Technique, but the two links at the end lead to an article about computers. I’ll do a search for it based on the main article:
The Delphi Technique for Controlling Public Meetings – What it is, and how to counter it .

EDIT: I see that you provided links to archived articles. Thank you.

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Gail Combs

The article is from two decades ago.
These are the 2004 archived versions:
The Delphi Technique — What Is It?
The Delphi Technique — How to Disrupt It.

scott467

Burning Bright: “Last night, @realjusthuman and I discussed the fact that a triumvirate or a trinity of superpowers is actually an ideal global position, historically in order to deter war and thus, promote peace. Essentially, having three super powers incentivizes all three to promote open communication and direct cooperation in order to ensure that ties between the other two don’t override the security and trade interests of the third.”

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Cool, like a global democracy.

Putin and Xi are definitely wolves.

What does that make us?

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Gail Combs

More like THREE WOLVES….

singingsoul1

We need an Lion between two wolves not a sheep.

Gail Combs

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Valerie Curren

We have that Albert Biersdadt painting in the background on the wall in our living room  😍 

scott467

“We need an Lion between two wolves not a sheep.”

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For sure, but even if we get him, we will only have him for four years.

Then it’s right back to rule by oligarchs (Koch Bros., Gates, Schwab, Fink, etc., and the entire permanent administrative state that serves them).

We have already seen what they’re like playing catch-up, after their plans were interrupted for four years the first time. The masks are all off now.

Imagine what they’ll be like if Trump interrupts their plans for another four years.

This is a heinous, violent world where only the strongest survive.

Russia knows it. chyna knows it. The entire middle east (islam) knows it. Even our own political-class knows it.

The whole world knows it.

The only people who don’t know it, are silly, unserious, pampered, useful idiot Western Liberals.

singingsoul1

We have to encourage and promote another lion who takes it after Trump. No wussy please

scott467

“More like THREE WOLVES….”

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We are no wolf, that’s for sure.

Chyna (and the muslim brotherhood, and probably Russia, among other adversaries) are running our government, through open and blatant infiltration, bribery and blackmail.

chyna and Russia are strong male-dominant societies.

America is an emasculated society of pajama wearing soy bois, sexual perverts and trannies, a society governed primarily by lunatic Leftist women.

What part of that sounds like we might qualify as one of three wolves?

Gail Combs

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Cuppa Covfefe

“Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”

pat frederick

Citizen 817
October 17, 2023 12:29 am

@realDonaldTrump
9h
WILL APPEAL THE GAG ORDER RULING. WITCH HUNT!
A TERRIBLE THING HAPPENED TO DEMOCRACY TODAY – GAG ORDER!

TradeBait2

And he will win. First amendment.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right…

Cuppa Covfefe

Amen.

Gail Combs

Israel-Hamas war: Saudi Arabia summons emergency meeting of Islamic countries

Salman bin Abdulaziz, the ruler of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, has called for an emergency meeting of the member states of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).

The OIC is the second largest organisation after the United Nations with a membership of 57 states spread over four continents. The organisation is the collective voice of the Muslim world.

According to a statement posted on OIC’s official website on Sunday, the meeting is slated for October 18 and 19, in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

The emergency meeting is called to discuss the ongoing conflict in the Gaza strip between Hamas and Israel….

https://www.amebo9jafeed.com.ng/2023/10/israel-hamas-war-saudi-arabia-summons.html

scott467

“the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).”

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The islamic wolves, getting together to decide how to divvy up the spoils.

Who will oppose them?

Who will represent Western Civilization against the islamic barbarians?

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Barb Meier

Wait till OBiden gets over there to tell him he’s not invited. hehe

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Tuesday, October 17, 2023

“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” 

Hebrews 12:14 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you for these. Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.

phoenixrising

Via ZH
Netanyahu in 2019: Israel Must ‘Support Bolstering Hamas and Transferring Money to Hamas
Originally published via Armageddon Prose:

Bibi Netanyahu and his ideological ilk represent more of an existential threat to the continued existence of the Israeli state – and possibly the world if it gets dragged into its geopolitical melodrama — than any foreign adversary ever could hope to.
What many casual news consumers might not know, even ones who consider themselves “informed” – in large part because MSNBC/CIA-funded Washington Post would never tell them – is that Hamas is in no small measure a creation of the Israeli state.

This is not to mean “creation of the Israeli state” in the figurative, obscure sense of “Israel forced the birth of Hamas-style militancy through its Apartheid policies in the Gaza Strip,” although that is certainly true.
I literally mean to say the Israeli government actively and directly participated in creating and propping up Hamas in the service of its own political machinations. 
Straight from the horse’s mouth, here’s how Netanyahu schemed behind the scenes for years to promote the terrorist group he now publicly decries and postures as the savior from.

Via Haaretz:

“Effectively, Netanyahu’s entire worldview collapsed over the course of a single day. He was convinced that he could make deals with corrupt Arab tyrants while ignoring the cornerstone of the Arab-Jewish conflict, the Palestinians. His life’s work was to turn the ship of state from the course steered by his predecessors, from Yitzhak Rabin to Ehud Olmert, and make the two-state solution impossible. En route to this goal, he found a partner in Hamas.

‘Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

On learning that Netanyahu told his comrades this, one might ask obvious questions: Why would Netanyahu be interested in keeping Palestine balkanized politically? Especially when all the government publicly proclaims to desire is peace with its Arab neighbors? Wouldn’t a stable Palestinian state not obsessed with annihilating the Jews serve those purported Israeli interests?

Well, a non-militant Palestinian state might serve the interests of an average Israeli living in a village on the border of Gaza, but not Netanyahu’s interests nor those of the base of fanatical religious warmongers he caters to.

Keeping Hamas alive and well-funded, as Netanyahu explicitly called for, creates permanent instability. Instability, in turn, lends itself to either active war or the constant threat of war, not peace. And war is the health of the Israeli state.

If peace broke out in the Middle East, creatures like Netanyahu would be liable to suddenly find themselves out of a job. They might have to make an honest day’s living for once in their miserable lives.

Netanyahu feeds politically off of endless conflict with Israel’s regional rivals. War breathes life into his otherwise listless and deflated political ideology. What other ideas for governance has this warmonger ever had except more war?

In the immediate term, war furthermore keeps him out of jail for the time being, as he was under serious, career-threatening legal scrutiny for corruption allegations at the time of the Hamas attack. Now, as the Israeli citizenry “rallies around the flag,” the nation temporarily forgoes internal political conflict.

          RelatedNo, the Hamas Invasion Was Not an Israeli ‘Intelligence Failure’

Netanyahu and the self-styled Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, are two peas in a pod in this regard. War is the health of their respective states, and they and their parties are the primary beneficiaries. Without it, they would be nothing but your average middle-aged, flabby slobs schlubbing their way through life.

In fact, in much the same way that there is no way Israeli intelligence was unaware of impending Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t be shocked to learn that Netanyahu and Khamenei are coordinating behind the scenes to see if they can’t finagle a potentially apocalyptic regional, if not global, war out of the current mess – and, again, if possible, drag the United States, Russia, and God knows what other states into it in the process.

              RelatedHow Neocons Could Sleep-Walk Us Into World War III

Of course, neither the Supreme Leader (what a stupid title) nor Netanyahu will be doing any fighting themselves. They’re much too cowardly and physically flimsy for any of that. Those personal traits are largely why they’re politicians in the first place.

They’ll simply puppeteer the apocalypse from behind the scenes. It’ll be poor kids conscripted from dusty villages sent to the meat grinder.

How history has a way of rhyming! Back in the 1980s, in an entirely different conflict in the same region of the world, it was the United States that propped up a band of religious fanatics fighting, at the time, the Soviet Union that had invaded and occupied Afghanistan in 1979.

Ronald Reagan’s Deep State handlers went so far as to invite them to the White House.

As unstable religious fanatics who feed off of perpetual war are wont to do, they eventually switched allegiances and set their sights on the United States, of course. After all, with the Soviet Union vanquished, the Taliban needed a new war to start.
Many people living quiet lives in New York City died as a result, but the American neocons got a whole fresh set of wars out of the deal, with fresh license to kill more poor people overseas. Raytheon and Boeing stocks went through the roof. The Middle East was further destabilized, giving rise to ISIS, a failed state in Libya, and guaranteeing future war.
And around and around we go, pretending as if the vaunted statesmen who start wars for a living are anything other than bloodthirsty warmongers playing geopolitical chess with other people’s children. 
But they’re brave and serious leaders of resolve, and I and anyone else who challenges them are the “domestic terrorists,” per the ADL, of course.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-10-16/bibi-netanyahu-2019-israel-must-support-bolstering-hamas-and-transferring-money

Gail Combs

 Matt Ehret said something similar on this video:

https://rumble.com/v3ohfgr-breaking-history-ep-15-wed-1200-pm-et-.html

I am not going to search the whole vid, but he said Hamas was an Israeli response to Araffat.

Then there is his year old substack.

FEB 4, 2022 Putting the “Jewish Conspiracy” Into Perspective

…YET… Trump supported (and still supports) Zionists.

So does that make Trump a Zionist shill deserving of a Soros-directed regime change as many of his detractors claim? Or is something else going on?

Well, if Israel truly was a causal agency in world affairs, one might say “yes”. However, from the 19th century creation of Zionism within the bowels of Britain’s Foreign Office by the Earl of Shaftesbury and the Palestinian Exploration Fund of 1865 to the Anglo-French Sykes Pikot Agreement of 1916, to the Lord Balfour Declaration of 1917 to the Round Table-steered Versailles Treaty that put Palestine under British control in 1919, Zionism was always a reactive agency of the British Empire and never causal as a top down process. Even the powerful B’nai Brith was created by British Freemasonic organizations in America hosting a Grand Master, degrees of initiation, and masonic symbolism from its 1875 founding to the present.

If anyof this history is new to you, I’d suggest stopping immediately and reviewing Cynthia Chung’s brilliant ‘Who Really Runs the Middle East’ before proceeding onward.

It isn’t just Zionism

British manipulation of radical ideologies across the Middle East doesn’t end with Zionism, but connects right to the heart of Wahhabism and the Muslim Brotherhood, both of which were the fruits of British Imperial intrigues at the onset of the 20th century. Don’t believe me? Well would you be surprised to find out that the Muslim Brotherhood which has played such a major role in the rise of Islamic fundamentalism was created by British Freemasons? Because it was.

Or would you be surprised to discover that Saudi Arabia is a nation who just celebrated its 80th birthday whose very name merely derives from a family of warlords that Britain decided to place atop a new kingdom in 1930? Some of that story was even told in the 1963 film Laurence of Arabia… but only some of it. The rise of Islamic terrorism that such geopoliticians as Zbigniew Brzezinski, Sir Henry Kissinger and Sir Bernard Lewis unleashed as a weapon against the Soviet Union was tied deeply into this British-created dynamic… and these Anglophile sociopaths knew it.

The fact that Israel hated such anti-nation state Wellsian technocrats as Barack Obama should not be a mystery, nor should their support of Trump’s pro-nationalist presidency be a mystery either. The total change in Turkey’s own Modus Operandi towards a pro-Russia/China program since Putin transformed the “rules of the regime-change game” in the Middle East in 2015 should also not be a mystery. Neither should the 20 Arab Nations which have signed onto China’s Belt and Road Initiative.

All of these seemingly opposing power structures were promised certain managerial powers of major jurisdictions of the world after the collapse of the western neo-liberal order on the condition that they just acted according to certain commands, and did the dirty work of their masters. Drug money laundering? Black ops? Terrorist financing? Oil price manipulation? Covert assassination? Every dirty game necessary to undermine sovereign nation states was on the table in those turbulent post-WWII years and these British-controlled power structures were messy, loud, and effective…

While I do not agree with everything Matt says — He LIKES FDR 🙄 — I think he has a lot of the ‘hidden history’ correct. The British Empire has NEVER GIVEN UP THEIR PLANS TO TAKE BACK THE USA AND TO RULE THE ENTIRE WORLD.

phoenixrising

Absolutely H.A.M.A.S. was created to deflect Arafat (secular) …

but time proved (just a few months actually) that Arafat could be BOUGHT (duh… who would have thought!) … he never really served the people of Palestine (just a reg politician) … so Bibi didn’t need to sell his soul to Satan by creating & funding Hamas… creating ‘terror’ for his own people… and eventually Hamas turned on him. Karma is a ………

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Just like what the Obama Deep State did with creating ISIS.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Proxies have been an age-old solution to geopolitical problems.

barkerjim

Don’t overlook the NGOs as proxies lite!

singingsoul1

Bingo

phoenixrising

It’s my understanding that was Hil de beast’s project …

Cuppa Covfefe

It’s not 2019 anymore…

phoenixrising

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly.

“The Unveiling.”

eilert

And 10% for the Big guy.

PAVACA

One hopes that young woman (in the video above) who vows never to take another COVID-19 “vaccine” gets her heart and lungs tested — and gets on a spike protein detox protocol.

mollypitcher5

Great stuff in the opener but the thing that gave me the creeps was that dancing Israeli soldier girls…………….I can’t help it, something so small and unimportant, a dancing tiktok? It reeks of cabal.
Ever get the feeling we’re on a carnival ride that’s gone haywire?

singingsoul1

Psychological warfare on the people ? I do believe however that Israel is in trouble two ways one having taken all the covid shots and two fighting the Palestinians.
Biden and his cabal might have a different agenda maybe some woke in Israel also but majority is fighting for their lives. I do not hate anyone but does not mean I embrace everyone.
Evil has infiltrated every aspect of our lives around the world. Some populations more than others. I believe we have been taken over and the same woke – satanic has taken over Israel to destroy us and Israel and all western way of life. I might be off here see to much darkness. We will survive this humanity has survived worse.
Just had a thought a fight against Christianity and Judaism we pray to the same God ?

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Gail Combs

The EVIL has been here all along we are just now waking up and SEEING IT!

I thought I was ‘awake’ two decades ago, but now I realize even then I only saw the relatively benign face that the EVIL Cabal shows.

singingsoul1

We see the depth and with of the evil cabal but there could be more. They are like a virus.

Cuppa Covfefe

TikTok is a dangerous tool…. Wouldn’t be surprised if RED Chinese spooks were behind it.

All of these idiotic and dangerous “challenges” and the other crap that comes out of it.

TikTokToxicTrash…

Aubergine

Glad I’m a Protestant, I guess.

singingsoul1

They are all in it.
By the way the Presbyterian Seminary is waking up at least the one I attended. Might be to late though. They realized that embracing woke ideology has hurt the church.
No kidding ! Hope they can turn it around to save part of Christianity. Maybe in the south Christianity will survive ?

Aubergine

Maybe.

PAVACA

GASLIGHTING.

Aubergine

My first question when I read something like that is, who are “they?”

Nobody seems to name the “they.” It’s just this amorphous entity doing all kinds of bad things.

Gail Combs

Cynthia Chung and Matt Ehret IDed the ‘They’ as the Old British Empire. Think Bank of London, the Old East Indies Co. the Prussians or the Khazars

Prussiagate & the House of Saud

Fear: One side of the triangle that feeds the Eye of Providence – Prussia.

The turmoil in the Middle East has been with us for as long as most can remember. The unfortunate tragedies of perpetual war and acts of terror have made the Middle East a central exchange for misery.

When central banking, another side of the triangle, unpegged from the gold anchor in 1971, it was critical to re-anchor to another ‘system’ in order to preserve its grip on humanity. That anchor was the new Petrodollar standard. This was a system that forced the world to buy USD (the world’s reserve currency after the 1944 Bretton Woods agreement) before they could buy the one thing they needed to maintain their nations’ modernity – oil.

The birth of the Petrodollar was no accident. It was a carefully contrived plan which handed almost unlimited wealth and power to its benefactor. Its Achilles heel would be found in the Middle East, where the bulk of the world’s oil was being produced. To ensure the Petrodollar was successful, the Middle East had to be tamed into accepting ONLY USD for their oil revenue.

pgroup2

[snort]

Aubergine

So now we’re in a “War of Stories.”

I’m sure that’s very comforting to the families of the dead.

Gail Combs

“War of Stories” refers to the Cabal’s use of a mix of real events and Pys-Ops such as 9-11 => WAR
Weapons of Mass Destruction => WAR
school shooting => OUTLAW GUNS

General Flynn calls it 5th Generation Warfare.

The idea is to create MAJOR EMOTIONAL REACTIONS within a population and then use it to guide the population to the predetermined action. The Cabal does not care how many Sheeple they have to kill to get the reaction from the Sheeple they want.

We need to be aware that this is what they are doing to us AND NOT FALL FOR IT.

Remember the Cabal WANTS ANOTHER MONEY MAKING WORLD WAR and they NEED THAT WAR FOR THEIR GREAT RESET. At this point they ALSO NEED the war to deflect the people waking up to their nasty Satanic Pedo side.

Hey, look a squirrel! (A bloody beheaded one.)

Gail Combs

Earlier I mentioned that Farmers IDed what they were doing to us at USDA controlled meetings on the National Animal Identification System as the ‘Delphi Technique.

The Delphi Technique — What Is It?

The Delphi Technique was originally conceived as a way to obtain the opinion of experts without necessarily bringing them together face to face.  In recent times, however, it has taken on an all new meaning and purpose.  👉In Educating for the New World Order by B. Eakman, the reader finds reference upon reference for the need to preserve the illusion that there is “…lay, or community, participation (in the decision-making process), while lay citizens were, in fact, being squeezed out.” 👈 The Delphi Technique is the method being used to squeeze citizens out of the process…

The change agent or facilitator goes through the motions of acting as an organizer, getting each person in the target group to elicit expression of their concerns about a program, project, or policy in question.  The facilitator listens attentively, forms “task forces,” “urges everyone to make lists,” and so on.  While s/he is doing this, the facilitator learns something about each member of the target group.  S/He identifies the “leaders,” the “loud mouths,” as well as those who frequently turn sides during the argument — the “weak or noncommittal”.

Suddenly, the amiable facilitator becomes “devil’s advocate.”  S/He dons his professional agitator hat.  Using the “divide and conquer” technique, s/he manipulates one group opinion against the other.  This is accomplished by manipulating those who are out of step to appear “ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic.”  S/He wants certain members of the group to become angry, thereby forcing tensions to accelerate.  The facilitator is well trained in psychological manipulation.  S/He is able to predict the reactions of each group member.  Individuals in opposition to the policy or program will be shut out of the group.

The method works.  It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and any community group.  The “targets” rarely, if ever, know that they are being manipulated.  Or, if they suspect this is happening, do not know how to end the process.

The desired result is for group polarization, and for the facilitator to become accepted as a member of the group and group process.  S/He will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion.  Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition…

Funny how I have to go back two decades to find this info….

Also this is a KEY POINT:

“… the reader finds reference upon reference for the need to preserve the illusion that there is “…lay, or community, participation (in the decision-making process)…””

We also found out that NGOs who we THOUGHT were on our side suddenly turned on us. You will note that NGOs are now taking the place of the “…lay, or community, participation (in the decision-making process)…”

Cuppa Covfefe

Hegelian Dialektik’s demonic faces rise again.

Managed consensus.

Saw this all the time at a dying division that was spun off of HP. Workerbees and their first-line managers were conned into thinking they came up with the solutions handed down from on high.

“Solutions” which often involved the elimination of their jobs.

One of them involved a major reclassification and rescoping of job categories (and salaries) porked up as a motorcar-racing-themed event. What most people missed was that the entire process resulted in less room for advancement, fewer (if any) marketable skills being recognized, such that those cast out ended up with worse resumes, and the entire salary structure, though touted as going up, was actually pushed down a couple of levels… bastiges…

And the “facilitators” were mostly bureaucratic “yes men”, never questioning nor resisting the dirty deeds therein. Traitors to what little was left of the HP Way.

As Dogbert said (in reply to Dilbert), “they wouldn’t go to this much trouble if they were RAISING salaries or improving benefits”….. 😡

Gail Combs

YUP,

Also so it in a company in Taxechusetts that was getting ready to close our plant (Unionized) and move south to a NON-UNION CHEAPER STATE.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That plant needs to lose a few electrons, then.

singingsoul1

They want to deplete us, break us, and impoverish us. USA is supposed to be diminished on the wold stage. They are all traitor in my book.

Cuppa Covfefe

Klaus “Stavros” Schwab: “You will have nothing. And you will be happy.”

Schwabbot will be happy in HELL, for that’s his origin and home…

Aubergine

I understand perfectly well what it is. I also understand one of the ways in which the concept itself is being used.

I don’t think you are one of them, but there are MANY people who, because they believe we are being manipulated, also believe everything is a manipulation, i.e. not “real.”

That is what I am attempting to point out, with my comment about the dead. There are elements online who think pretty much everything happening is a “story” or a “movie.” I personally think it is avoidance of reality.

Cuppa Covfefe

And the “Al Jazeera” news feeds seem to be fanning the flames…

mollypitcher5

The only thing that I see is the super obvious ploy of resetting the goalposts regarding Gaza and it’s inhabitants. The land and it’s inhabitants nurtured and gave comfort, produced offspring, put up with shitty lives because they are either members of hamas or so stupid that they never packed up their donkey carts and asked for safe haven somewhere nearby…that wasn’t infested with terrorists.
Now we’re all supposed to have tender thoughts for those poor palestinians who had no idea or choice to live with hamas? No.

Aubergine

Right there with ya!

TheseTruths

there are MANY people who, because they believe we are being manipulated, also believe everything is a manipulation, i.e. not “real.” 

That is what I am attempting to point out, with my comment about the dead. There are elements online who think pretty much everything happening is a “story” or a “movie.” I personally think it is avoidance of reality.

^^^This. And avoidance of reality:
• keeps people from seeing the truth.
• can make people complacent, which plays into the enemy’s schemes.
• can prevent people from seeing what their enemies are doing.
• creates a false sense of security.

The people become like sheep instead of the proud, smart, fire-in-the-belly warriors that are needed.

Aubergine

Agreed!

Gail Combs

“… believe everything is a manipulation, i.e. not “real.”…”

This is my major complaint with Patrick Gunnels. His attitude is EVERYTHING IS FAKE PERIOD.

If you keep in mind the best Psy-ops are a mix of real and fake OR ALL REAL but with bias reporting, I think you are getting closer to the truth.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There are people who are willing to question round earth because the government says it’s round. (And yes I am thinking of someone who comments here occasionally…but I can’t quite recall who.)

Cuppa Covfefe

Must be someone from Hamburg… (crappy city, btw., anymore)…

Ground. Round.

Hamburger…

Flattening will get them nowhere…

Aubergine

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Cuppa Covfefe

Looks like the Jupiter II….

Danger, Danger, Will Robinson… 🙂  👽 

TheseTruths

The idea is to create MAJOR EMOTIONAL REACTIONS within a population and then use it to guide the population to the predetermined action. 

What they don’t bargain for is that many people can have major emotional reactions without acting out on them. That’s a component of knowledge and emotional maturity. People can also be highly affected emotionally while being aware of their adversaries’ intentions, preventing them from falling in with the schemes against them. This has been happening for years with people on the Right. For the most part, we don’t get goaded into physical fighting and we don’t “go off” and take rash and deadly actions. I think this is a major source of frustration for the Left.

IMO, trying to get people to not have emotional responses is counterproductive. Emotion, in addition to knowledge, fuels the will to enact change. I believe it is one reason why the Left wants to curb patriotism and pride in our history and our country.

Gail Combs

The problem with emotional responses is that it cuts off your reasoning skills. So your best move is to let out the emotion AND THEN use the analytical part of your brain. 24-48 hour Rule applies. 😎

phoenixrising

Larry’s latest:

CAN U.S. AIRCRAFT CARRIERS COUNTER CHINESE AND RUSSIAN DIPLOMACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST?
16 October 2023 by Larry Johnson 

In the forty six years since the Six Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors, the United States has dominated the diplomatic agenda in the Middle East. That era is ended. China and Russia have emerged as players at the diplomatic table and are challenging the United States’ status as the primary voice in trying to contain the war between Israel and Hamas.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is just completing a failed mission to the Middle East. He made the rounds, after meeting with Israel’s Netanyahu, going to Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. While the Egyptians received Blinken, the reception has been described as “cool.” Meaning? Egypt listened but made no commitment to do what Washington wants.

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken met today with Saudi Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed bin Salman in Riyadh. The Secretary highlighted the United States’ unwavering focus on halting terrorist attacks by Hamas, securing the release of all hostages, and preventing the conflict from spreading. The two affirmed their shared commitment to protecting civilians and to advancing stability across the Middle East and beyond. They emphasized the importance of reaching a comprehensive political agreement to achieve peace, prosperity, and security in Yemen and the importance of our continuing partnership to end the conflict in Sudan.

But Bin Salman delivered an unmistakable message — the United States is not a priority and is not taken seriously. 

The Saudis realize that the United States, while still capable of projecting some military force in the region, is weak and not to be trusted. Enter China and Russia. These two countries are providing a rally point for the Arab and Muslim world. India’s retired diplomat, M. K. BHADRAKUMAR, reports on China’s emergence as a diplomatic power challenging U.S. pretensions to leadership :

The torrential flow of events through the past week is breathtaking, starting with a phone call made by Iran’s President Sayyid Ebrahim Raisi to the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on Wednesday to discuss a common strategy toward the situation following the devastating attack by the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, against Israel on October 7.

Earlier on Tuesday, in a powerful statement, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had emphasised that “From the military and intelligence aspects, this defeat (by Hamas) is irreparable. It is a devastating earthquake. It is unlikely that the (Israeli) usurping regime will be able to use the help of the West to repair the deep impacts that this incident has left on its ruling structures.” (See my blog Iran warns Israel against its apocalyptic war.)

A senior Iranian official told Reuters that Raisi’s call to the Crown Prince aimed to “support Palestine and prevent the spread of war in the region. The call was good and promising.” Having forged a broad understanding with Saudi Arabia, Iran’s Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian held discussion with his Emirati counterpart, Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed, during which he called upon Islamic and Arab countries to extend their support to the Palestinian people, emphasising the urgency of the situation.

On Thursday, Amir-Abdollahian embarked on a regional tour to Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Qatar through Saturday to coordinate with the various resistance groups. Notably, he met Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in Beirut and Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Doha. Amir-Abdollahian told the media that unless Israel stopped its barbaric air strikes on Gaza, an escalation by the Resistance is inevitable and Israel could suffer a “huge earthquake,” as Hezbollah is in a state of readiness to intervene. 

Russia reportedly is in talks with Turkey about assembling a humanitarian resupply mission with the Russian Navy providing security for a maritime delivery at Gaza’s ports. As the images of Palestinian casualties flood social media, pressure for a humanitarian mission will grow. Which brings me to the U.S. Carrier Battle Groups being deployed to the Mediterranean Sea. If the U.S. and Israel try to block the Gazan ports, this raises the risk of a direct conflict between Russia and the United States. While I think that is unlikely, it is a scenario that must be seriously considered.

Putting two of the eleven U.S. aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean is a dangerous move by Joe Biden. As long as those two battle groups are not involved in any offensive actions against Palestinians in Gaza, their mission will be confined to providing Israel a symbolic security blanket. But if Biden orders them to take any kind of offensive action this will likely fuel a massive negative reaction in the Arab and Muslim world. You know it is serious when Shia Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia and Turkey come together to support the Palestinian cause. This is unprecedented in the 76 year history of Israel and the United States no longer has the political or economic clout to coerce the Arab and Muslim nations to submit to Washington’s demands. That is what makes this so dangerous.

https://sonar21.com/can-u-s-aircraft-carriers-counter-chinese-and-russian-diplomacy-in-the-middle-east/

pgroup2

As the images of Palestinian casualties flood social media, 

Can someone explain why there is cell service in the Gaza Strip? Does Israel want such images on social media? Assuming it doesn’t want that, why has Israel not shut down the cell towers’ signals [also called jamming]?

Seems pretty basic to me, a run-of-the-mill dumbass deplorable. Are 1400 dead citizens not worth it? Maybe not, seeing that the IDF has not outgrown that child-like stupidity of warning that they are going to attack.

More concerned with image than survival. More of what we’ve been used to seeing.

TheseTruths

Reasonable questions. Here is one from someone (me) who has no expertise in military operations in the field. Could the military need the cell service for its own communications?

phoenixrising

“In the wake of first, the US flight from Kabul; second, the collapse of the Ukraine offensive — concurrently with the humiliation of NATO; and, third, the failure of Israeli Intelligence, plus the dismal Israeli military operational response to 7 October, observers claim to see the Empire fraying visibly.

The mythic power shibboleths have revealed themselves as vapid. The sense of our standing at a major point of inflection is palpable — Everything seems to be in a state of flux; all together; all at once.

This is both exciting, but worrying: Will events spiral out of control? Will war engulf us?

Clearly, the myth of the West as the ‘vision for all’ — together, perhaps, with its defining substrata of reductive mechanical thinking — has run its course. The rest of the world has ‘moved on’.”

~~ Alastair Crooke

Barb Meier

Great! So now, all those aliens invading the U.S. and other Western nations will turn tail and illegally invade Gaza, Iran, and China.

phoenixrising

USA will give them an offer they can’t refuse … enlist in the military and become fodder for the proxy war in Iran, Syria (fill in the blank) … or you get deported…

mollypitcher5

IMO the world hasn’t moved on. The West aka the WEF vision has begun to gel. Almost all Western countries have permitted invasions of foreign extremists. So much so that IF and when they wanted they could easily destroy the countries .

The notion that the USA has real power and influence anymore is a delusion. Biden is a puppet for the the shadow admin that wants our country decimated and ‘built back’ in the image of pick any islamic or communist country.

phoenixrising

He means the Rest of the World, EXCLUDING the West: the Empire of Lies, the Hegemon … the USA and it’s vassal states …

mollypitcher5

But what is the rest of the world ? Africa is more violent than ever .South America is dealing with cartels and creeping communism. Japan, after Abe’s assassination facing some instability, China ? who knows what the hell they’re doing .Australia seemed pretty authoritarian during the pandemic, maybe less now ? New Zealand trying to recover after ousting Arden.
I suppose island nations going on about their business but they’re not big players.

I guess he meant the rest of the world hasn’t hopped into the israeli/hamas frying pan yet if this is another deliberate constructed war…it literally sucks in manipulated people from ‘other’ countries..example the sydney demonstration of “gas the jews”.

OR maybe it’s all so above my paygrade that I have no idea what he meant !

phoenixrising

House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul tells CNN he is drafting legislation “in the event it’s necessary” to authorize US military force if the war in Israel becomes a wider proxy war with Iran.

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Bernhard at MoA:

U.S. Deploys Large Force – Eyes On Syria
The U.S. has recently moved way too many troops to the Middle East to be of peaceful purpose or to simply deter others from action.
Who does it intend to fight?

see article at https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-deploys-large-force-eyes-on-syria.html#more

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Will Schryver @imetatronink – 17:10 UTC · Oct 16, 2023So … a large amphibious assault flotilla will join the two carrier battle groups assembling in the eastern Mediterranean. Many believe this is just “power-projection posturing”. I find that explanation deficient.
This is a war fleet. And Hamas is NOT its target.

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CAN U.S. AIRCRAFT CARRIERS COUNTER CHINESE AND RUSSIAN DIPLOMACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST?
https://sonar21.com/can-u-s-aircraft-carriers-counter-chinese-and-russian-diplomacy-in-the-middle-east/

/phoenix: info in comment section suggest, among other reasons, the two US carriers are moored so close in is to provide more adequate Air Defense systems

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 M. K. BHADRAKUMAR on 17/10/2023

skip: … “The really intriguing part is that plentiful intelligence assessments were available with Israel about the strong possibility of an operation by Hamas last Saturday. Egypt has confirmed that it passed on intelligence to Israel.

CNN has since reported that US intelligence agencies too warned about a potential escalation of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict shortly before the October 7 Hamas attack. The following excerpts from the CNN report are stunning, to say the least:

“One (US) update from September 28 warned, based on multiple streams of intelligence, that… Hamas was poised to escalate rocket-attacks across the border. An October 5 wire from the CIA warned generally of the increasing possibility of violence by Hamas. Then, on October 6, the day before the attack, US officials circulated reporting from Israel indicating unusual activity by Hamas — indications that are now clear: an attack was imminent.” (Emphasis added.)

Yet, Netanyahu didn’t act! Quite possibly, this 800-pound gorilla in Israeli political jungle calculated that a Holocaust may not be a bad idea if it helped him survive the existential crisis in his political career — the legal charges and the possibility of jail term coupled with a troubled relationship with the Biden Administration.

Curiously, the emergent geopolitical situation is engendering a convergence of interests between Netanyahu and Biden. Biden is also facing an existential challenge from NATO’s inevitable defeat in the Ukraine war and there is no better way to contain the fallouts damaging his standing in the 2024 election than to decouple and career away toward a defence of Israel’s security, which will rally the powerful Jewish lobby and appeal to the public opinion.

The big question remains: Did Netanyahu take us for a ride by mixing Islamophobia and terrorism into a heady cocktail that is seductive in its appeal in these extraordinary times in Indian politics?

A bromance with Netanyahu was never to have a happy ending. Trump just revealed how Netanyahu scooted at the eleventh hour from the joint US-Israeli plot to assassinate the charismatic Iranian general Qassem Soleimani — and then, rushed in later to take credit for it.”

https://orientalreview.su/2023/10/17/netanyahu-is-an-albatross-around-indias-neck/

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There’s really a lot of sabre rattling going by the US re the 2 x carrier groups, USMC Marine Expeditionary Group Bataan and further threats to Iran, Syria & Hezbollah. Is it all bluff or has the US really decided to go for broke (broke being the operative word)?
And wrt Ray’s closing (rhetorical?) question – my answer is “Yes, they are that dumb!”

Ray McGovern on X: “Into the valley of death sailed the 10,000, aboard aircraft carriers Ford and Eisenhower – sitting ducks for swarming drones & other weaponry not dreamed of by those who made short work of the Charge of the Light Brigade. Perhaps Blinken/Nuland/Austin want that? Or are just dumb?”

https://twitter.com/raymcgo

mollypitcher5

I’m curious why it’s inconceivable that Netanyahu didn’t know about this alleged intel. The black hats are masters of creating situations to undermine nations or particular heads of nations. If his own intelligence agencies are as corrupt as ours or in league with ours he easily could’ve been in the dark.
NONE of the war mongers or nation topplers care about lives lost..that’s the catalyst to move the program forward. Sidenote…that’s why I always say Ashli Babbit or whoever needed to be killed. They had to have a dead insurrectionist to galvanize the story.

People want to believe that israeli defense intel is superior to all…maybe they are and it’s at least possible that it’s been corrupted. my 2cents

pgroup2

molly, your skepticism of The Narrative of the Day is making me swoon over you.

 😍 

mollypitcher5

lol, your swoon makes me swoon back..a mutual admiration society of 2 ! 🤗 

Gail Combs

“…People want to believe that israeli defense intel is superior to all…maybe they are and it’s at least possible that it’s been corrupted….”

CORRUPTED according to Matt Ehret. He says there is a fight going on between two different factions in Israel.

Through A Glass Darkly: Who Really Created the Middle East Terror Apparatus?by CYNTHIA CHUNG

The following is a chapter from my book The Empire on Which the Black Sun Never Set

She goes into the moves made by the Brits to bring down the Ottoman Empire and do a land grab. She starts in 1869 with the beginnings of the Muslim Brotherhood.

In 1869, a man named Jamal al-Din al-Afghani, the intellectual founder of the Salafiyya movement, went to India where the British led colonial authorities welcomed him with honors and graciously escorted him aboard a government owned vessel on an all-expenses paid voyage to the Suez. [664] In Cairo he was given safe haven by the Egyptian Prime Minister Riad Pasha, a notorious enemy of the emerging nationalist movement in Egypt….

It is a photocopy of pages so I can not copy and paste. Very interesting background to the current mess in the Middle East.

I will try poting the image:

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mollypitcher5

Really interesting. Yeah I bet the British refused !!! With a cheerio mate but keep it mum…..haha that now so many are there that most of the mayors are islamic.

Create murderous religious zealots to be hired mercenaries. Like everything like that, it spirals out of control.

kalbokalbs

While I do NOT believe, Israeli intelligence had no clue, of the Hamas attack.

Certainly, Israeli military should have responded swiftly.

Not buying any of this BS.

  :wpds_arrow: Israeli intelligence knew and Israeli military should have had a quicker more robust response. No Coincidences.

singingsoul1

They are dumb and evil.

Cuppa Covfefe

Nothing like fanning flames…

itswoot

So … a large amphibious assault flotilla will join the two carrier battle groups assembling in the eastern Mediterranean. Many believe this is just “power-projection posturing”. I find that explanation deficient.
This is a war fleet. And Hamas is NOT its target.”

“… USMC Marine Expeditionary Group Bataan…”

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I’ve been wondering when the Marines would show up on the scene with with their amphibious assault group. At the risk of coming across as being crazy (too late?), I think at some point in the near future the Marines will come ashore at the north end of the Gaza Strip and establish a demilitarized zone between Israel and Gaza.

That would be after the U.N. invokes their Responsibility To Protect doctrine for the Gaza Strip, and a no-fly zone to prevent the IDF from bombing Gaza. The two carrier strike groups would enforce the no-fly zone.

Remember who the people are that make the policy decisions in the U.S. government and military.

mollypitcher5

Am going to try and remember your comment if it happens…we heard it here first and it sounds very plausible

itswoot

Perhaps this guy has had a bit too much influence on me… 😉

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barkerjim
PAVACA

https://mole.substack.com/p/spox_dilemma-2023-10-17-tue-killjab

Linda — There’s an article about Fenbendazole being used to treat cancer in the links. Here is the article:

https://fenbendazole.substack.com/p/fenbendazole-questions-answered-things

PAVACA

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/reports-from-the-front-lines-of-the-530
“Reports From The Front Lines Of The Vaccine Catastrophe – Part 5”
Yours Truly: Dr. Kory mentions “gaslit” in his article. He also includes messages from a frontline RN about the increase of cancer diagnoses at her hospital, including cancers of the pineal gland, the spinal cord, and of glioblastoma, in “vaccinated” patients as young as 8 years old.

barkerjim

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=249895

How To Put A STOP To The AirBNB/VRBO Screwing

TheseTruths

Something I had not thought about.

singingsoul1

They are voting for speaker of the house. Republicans cannot get their act together. Watch if they wind up with Jeffrie that would deserve them right. Stupid people have been elected

singingsoul1

Jordan fails to win house seat according to Fox

para59r

There will be moar votes! 😁

singingsoul1

More votes has happen the 20 are democrats in republican disguise

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

First ballot, Jordan 200 votes, Jeffries (Dem) 212, a bunch of others got hands ful of votes. Total cast 432 so 217 needed.

Buck voted for someone named Emmer from Minnesota. Guess my call didn’t work.

singingsoul1

Dems are much more loyal to the cause that is why the country is in hands of left ideology. Republicans cannot get off the pot and make a mess when they do.
Republicans loose focus whom they represent money money is their god. Democrats seek power over everything and it is uniting them.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There’s no percentage in a Dem not voting for their guy; he’s not going to win anyway. Rs can hope for some sort of major concession from their guy if they play hold back the vote.

That’s the charitable explanation; the reality is some of them are probably so thoroughly RINO they can’t stand someone with even the appearance of principles.

phoenixrising

Jordan won’t read the script from the Deep State … the one McCarthy read and enforced, keeping the Repubs in line by administering the “money” for campaigns…

A two year term means you spend all your 2 years looking for money to get re-elected …

Gail Combs

Actually I hope they continue playing games, WELL PAST the Defunded government date in a month or so. I also hope the game playing KEEPS THE USA OUT OF WWIII.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

MOAR SHUTDOWN!!!!

Gail Combs

  :wpds_wink: YUP!

phoenixrising

Report on Fox. Gaza Hospital takes air strike: 200-300 dead

❗Al Jazeera : The number of people killed at Al Ahly Baptist Hospital, hit by Israeli airstrikes in the Gaza Strip, may exceed 1,000.

Al Jazeera correspondent: “What we saw in Al-Ma’madani Hospital was horrific: Images of body parts and dismembered bodies of children, young people, old men and women.
The bombing was in the center of the hospital and not on its outskirts. We cannot explain the horror we saw. We saw piles of meat packed in bags.”

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phoenixrising

Netanyahu can only be hoping to trigger WWIII with these war crimes …

itswoot

The Palestinians (Hamas?) built their main command bunker underneath a hospital in the Gaza Strip back in 1983. There are probably other command bunkers underneath other hospitals.

Here’s an article published in 2014 on the subject.

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/not-so-secret-hamas-command-bunker-located-under-gaza-hospital/

Cuppa Covfefe

That’s typical of the Moose-Slimes.

They use HUMAN SHIELDS.

So they can blame the other side for their evil deeds, just like their father, the Devil…

Cuppa Covfefe

Oh, and Hamas did nothing…

Aubergine

Reports (and video I have seen) seem to confirm that this was a Hamas rocket that fell short of its target, something that apparently has happened fairly frequently in the past.

mollypitcher5

Or please may I toss in this…a hamas rocket directed at the hospital for maximum press value…gotta/must turn the tide of public sentiment

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I would not be surprised.

A Muslim who dies in jihad goes to paradise automatically (such is their belief); that would apply to those killed by friendly fire. So in these people’s minds it’s entirely possible that they think they’re doing the people in the hospital a favor by ensuring they get martyred.

Cuppa Covfefe

Sooner or later they’re going to run out of untarnished camels…..

Gail Combs

GEE I think we have seen these Nazi Deep State moves before. Ukraine 2.0…

Aubergine

Entirely within the realm of possibility.

Cuppa Covfefe

Mo-Ham-Ass….

kalbokalbs

IF it was a Hamas rocket, it WAS an intended strike.

Aubergine

I don’t know that.

I have read that it has happened before. Their rockets suck. Sometimes they don’t make it all the way to their intended target.

Dead-center of a hospital would seem intentional. But Gaza appears to be jam-packed with people and buildings. It’s possible it wasn’t, in my opinion.

YMMV, of course, and as always, I could be wrong.

kalbokalbs

Based on dead-center, Israeli precision munition.

cthulhu

Dead-center could also mean that it touched-off the hospital’s central ammunition stores.

Aubergine

That’s what I think happened. A failed rocket hit the hospital, but the enormous explosion was a munitions dump.

Cuppa Covfefe

Like all of the Skuds (duds) missles in the Iraq wars…

And the MIC are just sitting back, laughing, and salivating at the prospects of enormous sales of new materiel to replace the old (probably often defective) hardware that was expended in Ukraine, and now the Middle East…..

And the banksters are just firing up their child sacrifices to give thanks (and gain power) for what they are doing and about to do…..

Because that IS what they do at their meetings…..

phoenixrising

BTW – note the hospital just attacked is a Baptist Christian Hospital. 40% of Palistians are Christians.

And roughly 30% of the Levant is Christian.

phoenixrising
  • Egyptian Foreign Ministry strongly condemns the Israeli airstrike on Al-Maamadani Hospital and urgently calls on all nations across the globe to take immediate action to halt these violations
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  • 11:03UNRWA spokesperson: The agency’s emergency centers received 400,000 displaced people. our estimations that there are more than 1 million displaced Gazans
  • 10:18Israeli warplanes stage new strikes on Gaza Strip

lvia Lebanon’s TV https://english.almanar.com.lb/
httpvias://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/06/manar-089647100168752915110-68×60.jpgSupreme Leader Urges Deep Thinking about

phoenixrising

Turkish President Erdogan: “The attack on a hospital treating women, children and innocent civilians is the latest example of Israeli attacks devoid of the most basic human values. I call on all humanity to act to stop this unprecedented brutality in the Gaza Strip.”

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. And what about the innocents in that concert in Israel?

And what about the two Swedes butchered in Belgium yesterday while their Moroccan murderer yelled “Allahu Akbar”???

The religion of pieces.

Pieces of their HUMAN SHIELDS, fomented by their using hospitals, schools, churches, civic buildings as armories and meeting places… seems Zelensky has learned from them…

Aubergine

It was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital. Their rockets suck, and apparently this has happened before.

The Israelis, hoping for and desperately needing American political support, did not bomb a hospital.

People have completely lost all perspective, logic, and critical thinking skills. Why are some so desperate to defend these monstrous sub-humans? I don’t get it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Because the sub-humans are anti American.

And because…Jooz.

Aubergine

Lol, Jooz. Love the spelling.

Exactly.

para59r

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/10621

Israeli army spokesman: We had warned [the Gaza authorities] to evacuate Baptist Hospital and 5 other hospitals

True, they did. They even allotted extra time for it to happen, but I guess with all the noise not to do it, they must of assumed they wouldn’t or just don’t care.

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mollypitcher5

Erdogan has been saying that same thing since the day this began….with bombs and automatic rifles and knives on INNOCENT israelis

6 days ago……….
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/turkeys-erdogan-calls-israeli-response-to-hamas-in-gaza-a-massacre/

ANKARA (Reuters) -Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday said Israel’s blockade and bombing of Gaza in response to Palestinian militant group Hamas’ attack was a disproportionate response amounting to a “massacre,” but repeated Ankara’s offer to mediate.
Unlike the European Union and United States, Ankara does not view Hamas as a terrorist organisation.
Erdogan on Wednesday criticised Israel’s “disproportionate” attacks on Gaza as “devoid of any ethical foundation,” and urged the world not to “blindly” take one side.

Cuppa Covfefe

Airheadman is as sneaky and slithery as they come.

An ugly snake who disturbingly looks like Walt Disney…

singingsoul1

War is ugly and innocent people die.
I think we need to hold leaders responsible and send them into war and their children .
Do I sound hard ? Yes.
Actually I think it is humane because leaders would think twice sending our children to war.

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Cuppa Covfefe

Boiling sulfur would be a good start. I think Steve has stronger stuff on tap….. 🙂

singingsoul1

G You gave me something to smile at 🙂

kalbokalbs

Do you sound hard? NO. <<< Common sense. IMO.

  • Uniparty looks at us serfs as expendables.

MeThinks just the opposite. Uniparty IS expendable.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, it’s not expendable. That implies we can choose to keep it or not.

It MUST be got rid of. Not MAY but MUST.

singingsoul1

You are right 🙂 It is getting ugly to safe our country because evil is every place.

pat frederick

repeat after me…

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Jack Smith is a lying pile of bearded dragon shit.

(Oh, I guess I didn’t follow instructions).

Aubergine

Do you ever?!

Please don’t start now!

Cuppa Covfefe

Jack Shit is a thug… could even say mudderthugger from his deranged, sick appearance…

Jack Smith is a THUG

changed my name on my site…see if it works here…

mollypitcher5

 😀  💪 

Gail Combs

Jack Smith is a lying pile of DOG VOMIT SLIME MOLD!

Except slime mold is a lot more beneficial.

How to Grow and Care for Dog Vomit Slime MoldOften mistaken for a fungus, this substance can be beneficial in the garden

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Cuppa Covfefe

Sort of looks like Rösti or Reibekuchen 🙂
(eh, singing 😆 )…..

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Cuppa Covfefe

Kind of thugs to be Jack “Shit” Smith…

Valerie Curren

Nice!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He can’t be a thug. He’s white.

Oh, WAIT…thug doesn’t mean black??

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep….

Kinda thugs to be him… 🙂

cthulhu
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Heck, I could start burning coal in my wood stove.

Cuppa Covfefe

Considering how much they want to spend in “reparations” and other idiocies, they’re going to be under water for a long, long time…..

phoenixrising

via American Conservative

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Avoiding Armageddon
The U.S. must consider encouraging a ceasefire before stumbling into another complicated large-scale conflict.

Douglas Macgregor
Oct 17, 2023
12:05 AM

Limited war is a form of warfare constrained by the exercise of deliberate restraint in the application of force and the pursuit of political-military goals that exclude annihilation. In Ukraine, all sides shared an interest in avoiding the use of nuclear weapons, and contrary to the Western narrative, Moscow’s goals were arguably confined to the destruction of hostile Ukrainian forces (“denazification”) and the establishment of a neutral Ukrainian state.

In the Middle East, the situation is very different. When Hamas fighters attacked Israel’s heavily fortified border at daybreak on October 7, the first wave of roughly 1,000 fighters advanced behind a curtain of rocket fire using motorcycles, pickup trucks, paragliders, and speed boats, Israeli forces were surprised. Ali Baraka, a senior Hamas official, said in an interview on October 8, “We made them think that Hamas was busy with governing Gaza, and that it wanted to focus on the 2.5 million Palestinians [in Gaza] and has abandoned the resistance altogether.”

In the days that followed, 3,000 fighters, including an unknown number from the Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), penetrated Israeli territory, killing at least 1,300 Israelis and wounding approximately 3,500. Subsequent cross-border raids into Gaza revealed that some of the Israelis who were kidnapped were executed after entering Gaza.

The speed, coordination, and effectiveness of the Hamas operation was unexpected, but the horrific damage the Hamas fighters inflicted on Israel’s population was not surprising. Hamas exists for one purpose: to terrorize and kill Jews with the goal of destroying the State of Israel.

In response, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared war and mobilized 360,000 reservists to form an army of between 470,000 and 500,000. Netanyahu is obviously determined to impart a lasting object lesson, one that will crush Hamas in Gaza and probably eliminate any more talk inside the Palestinian population of a “two-state solution.” Having already pulverized Gaza from the air, the stage is now set for a battle of annihilation. The question is: whose annihilation?

Israeli rage is justified and widely shared by Americans. Like the Israelis, Americans are inclined to see terrorism through the lens of 19th-century piracy: “no quarter given, none expected.” In this total war setting, the Geneva Convention cannot apply to Hamas’s terrorist forces. But how long can the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) wage total war, depriving Gaza’s Arab population of food and water, without creating an enormous humanitarian disaster that will play for years in the news?

Can Hamas and its leadership be destroyed without killing large numbers of civilians who may hate the Israelis but have nothing to do with Hamas? Does it not serve Hamas’s purpose for the IDF to become bogged down in an open-ended, full-scale ground invasion of Gaza because the urban conflict will unavoidably entail loss of innocent life? Does it not seem ominous that Hamas is urging the population of Northern Gaza to remain in the ruins of the city?

Americans stand behind Israel, but many are unconvinced that killing more Arabs in Gaza will solve Israel’s security problem. Americans also have doubts about the Israeli government’s ultranationalist officials, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir. These men are widely seen as emboldening Jewish extremists.

These questions and concerns may explain why Israel is rushing to carry the war into Gaza. If Russian forces arrive to help Egypt and Turkey establish a humanitarian corridor, there will be Russian and Turkish troops in Gaza to defend the distribution of humanitarian aid. Outpacing the arrival of Russians, Turks, and Egyptians makes sense.
These points notwithstanding, the Middle East today is very different from the Middle East in 1973. Technologies have altered the conduct of warfare, but more importantly, the societies and states of the Islamic world have also changed. Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Iran, and Turkey are different in character from what they were in the 1970s. None of the states bordering Israel will tolerate population shifts that introduce large numbers of Palestinian Arabs into their societies. Europeans want them even less.

Iran’s national leaders have already called on Islamic and Arab countries to form a united front against Israel, but Iran’s influence in these matters is more limited than most Americans realize. Iranian military power is largely restricted to Iran’s use of proxy militias like Hezbollah and their cooperation with the Pasdaran, Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Iran is simply incapable of adding high-end conventional military forces to such a front. Tehran’s government also knows that the use of Iran’s formidable theater ballistic missile force against Israel risks almost certain Israeli nuclear retaliation.
The governments of Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Lebanon are very probably opposed to a general war against Israel, but their enraged populations could easily trap them into doing so. Scenes of celebration across the Middle East showing people waving Palestinian and Hamas flags, dancing, and singing in the streets are being shared on social media.

Turkey’s President Erdogan has offered to mediate between Hamas and Israel, but Erdoğan himself has warned that the war won’t just stop “in a week or two.” However, Turkey, a nation of more than 80 million, is the one actor in the region with the societal cohesion, martial culture, and military power to lead the Sunni Arab states in a confrontation with Israel.

In a regional war, Turkey can field large armies and air forces equipped with modern weapons, manned by disciplined and determined fighters. The advent of a regional Sunni Muslim alliance guided by Ankara and financed by Qatar resurrects the specter of advanced conventional warfare for the IDF, a form of warfare known to only a few of today’s IDF leaders.

Sadly, the region has not advanced much beyond the conditions described by Ramsay MacDonald, Britain’s Prime Minister in 1924 and again from 1929 to 1931:

We encouraged an Arab revolt against Turkey by promising to create an Arab Kingdom from the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire including Palestine. At the same time, we were encouraging the Jews to help us, by promising them that Palestine would be placed at their disposal for settlement and government, and, also at the same time, we were secretly making with France the Sykes-Picot agreement partitioning the territory which we had instructed our Governor-General of Egypt to promise to the Arabs. The story is one of crude duplicity, and we cannot expect to escape the reprobation which is its proper sequel.

Both the Jews and the Muslims continue to live inside civilizational conflicts that have defined Jerusalem since World War I.

With American offshore naval power, Washington is certainly poised to stumble into the conflict if it widens, but the use of American naval power will not end it. Although it is distasteful to the ruling political class in Washington, the Biden administration should consider taking the lead in supporting a ceasefire, even if it means cooperating with the Turks, Egyptians, and Russians to secure the arrival of humanitarian aid.

In Ukraine, Washington underestimated Russian resolve and military power. Washington should not repeat this mistake by underestimating the potential for a regional Muslim alliance that could threaten Israel’s existence. The possibility that Israel could end up like Ukraine should not be discounted.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/avoiding-armageddon/

Gail Combs

“…Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Iran, and Turkey are different in character from what they were in the 1970s. None of the states bordering Israel will tolerate population shifts that introduce large numbers of Palestinian Arabs into their societies. Europeans want them even less….”

However that is OK beacuse Obama’s Sock Puppet Bidden will airlift them to Mexico so they can cross into the USA… I do not even KNOW if a /s is valid!

pgroup2

Pure propaganda, intended to create/increase support for Jew haters in general and terrorists in particular. And MacGregor’s views are his own. No matter how many agree with him, doesn’t make him right.

PAVACA


Of your charity, please pray for the repose of the soul of my first cousin, Bill, who “died suddenly” on 28 September. Heart. Age 72. A quiet-spoken, extremely intelligent man, built like a linebacker, stayed fit. 99.99999% sure he was “vaccinated.”
Thank you.

phoenixrising

Prayers up Dear Lady …

pat frederick

prayers up!

Gail Combs

👃 So sorry to hear that.

Linda

Sorry to hear that, Pavaca. Prayers for you and your family during this time.

para59r

A testament to him that you remember him well. Prayers.

singingsoul1

My deepest sympathy for your loss. May God comfort you and your family at this time 

Cuppa Covfefe

Prayers up!

Valerie Curren

So sorry for your loss. May the Lord provide comfort to all…

cthulhu

This reads as a parody, but may actually be “sincere”…..

https://www.them.us/story/israel-hormones-and-transitioning

Gail Combs

It is by Condé Nast.

WIKI

Condé Nast  is a global mass media company founded in 1909 by Condé Montrose Nast (1873–1942) and owned by Advance Publications.[1] Its headquarters are located at One World Trade Center in the Financial District of Lower Manhattan.

The company’s media brands attract more than 72 million consumers in print, 394 million in digital and 454 million across social platforms. These include Vogue, The New Yorker, Condé Nast Traveler, GQ, Glamour, Architectural Digest, Vanity Fair, Pitchfork, Wired, and Bon Appétit, among many others. US Vogue editor-in-chief Anna Wintour serves as Artistic Director and Global Chief Content Officer. In 2011, the company launched the Condé Nast Entertainment division, tasked with developing film, television, social and digital video, and virtual reality content.

Cuppa Covfefe

Nasty Nast…

phoenixrising

The Chief of Naval Operations, Mike Gilday, has said the U.S. Navy built the aircraft carrier USS Ford with too many new technologies.
from Forbes recently, but before Gaza

As the Pentagon’s independent weapon tester, the Director of Operational Test and Evaluation (DOT&E), points out serious performance flaws aboard the U.S. Navy’s $13.3 billion USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) aircraft carrier, the U.S. Navy wants observers to believe the new supercarrier is ready for combat.

The carrier, just entering the DOT&E’s Initial Operational Test and Evaluation (IOT&E) test-and-trials phase, is certainly capable of doing all the basic things carriers do—the ship can stay afloat, launch aircraft, and travel from port to port.

But there is a big difference between basic operations and true battle-readiness.While the Navy puts on a brave face on the carrier’s well-publicized technical problems, balancing the drumbeat of bad news with morale-boosting press visits, credulous “gee-whiz” media coverage, and showpiece deployments, the IOT&E tests, when completed in late FY 2024, are likely to carry a far less positive message about the USS Ford’s warfighting capabilities—the ultimate business case for what will be, at a minimum, a class of four expensive vessels. . .here

So the Ford carrier hasn’t completed its test program yet.

Robert Baker

That makes it easy for Chinese and Russian intelligence. Just get a subscription for Forbes. Not as timely as picking up the phone and calling General Milley but it saves on travel expenses..

mollypitcher5

 😆  !!

Cuppa Covfefe

Saves on split nails and wasted nail polish too…..

Cuppa Covfefe

F oundered
O r
R epaired
D aily
…..

F requently
O ften
R equires
D rydock

(OK, it’s too big, but…)

F iscal
O verruns
R esult in
D isaster

Aubergine

F ound
O n
R oadside
D ead

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. BTDTGTTS…

F ixed
O r
R epaired
D aily

and the German version

Ford ‘rein
Bundesbahn heim…

(Ford out, train back 🙂 )…..

phoenixrising

mollypitcher5

So, let me understand this…we, out here in cyberville, know that hamas builds their command centers under hospitals ,but the hospital admin just sighed and said oh well ? they were warned.

Hamas was telling them not to leave. Hmmm why would they do that ? In my Greta voice..how dare they! Where was the pearl clutching about being advised not leave.

A lot of selective judging going on.
I bet if the KKK had a huge footprint and had burned some black’s homes and killed them…anyone think there would be an outpouring of care for the KKK families that would invariably end up riddled by FIB bullets? Also, about 100% certain FIB would NOT give warning…we’ve been there before

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In my mind, if a human shield gets killed…

The responsibility lies on those using the human shield, not those who have to attack through it.

That of course assumes the attacker is attacking justly, but then to counter it you have to claim the attacker is not justified in going after the actual target.

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Cuppa Covfefe

BS

Aubergine

Cuppa, you and I are on the same page.

Crystal clear eyes when it comes to islam, I believe.

Cuppa Covfefe

You only have to live among it to see it…

And I saw it even back in my Uni days…

What escapes most people is that Islam (“I submit”) isn’t just a religion, and isn’t just a political point of view, or military movement.

It is a PRESCRIPTION and REQUIREMENT for LIFE.

From birth to death, from dawn to dawn (not just dawn to dusk), and for all eternity.

They are not only taught what to eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, and whatever,

or how to clean themselves, wash, do their work, and gardening, other tasks, etc.

They are taught how to think. How to kill. How to decapitate. How to oppress. How to lie (to wait, and then gain control).

Even how to dream (and what about).

For it it TOTAL CONTROL.

Of them (from Satan).

And US.

If we don’t stop them first…

At least here in the EU, it’s the greatest danger that we face.

And nothing that GangGreenGretatheGreenhearted can throw at us, nor Habeck the halfwit “business” minister, nor waffle-face-Faeser the interior ministerin (though she’s a HUGE part of the problem) comes close to the threat of the Islamic hordes…

And they’re coming up through the southern border of the US…

Better watch out….

(better not cry
better arm up
they want you to die
Mo-Ham-Head
Is coming… to town)…

Aubergine

It’s just unreal that some don’t see it.

phoenixrising

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Aubergine

Without a source, this is meaningless crap.

Cuppa Covfefe

Either way, it’s meaningless crap.

The EUROPEAN MEDIA IS UTTERLY BLIND TO THE ATROCITIES FOMENTED BY THE MOSLEMS.

Punkt.

I see this each and every day.

And I call bullshit on anyone who says the media are ignoring Israel’s actions (or inaction, for that matter). In the media over here, if Israel stamps out a cigarette, it’s reported as a village was destroyed…

pgroup2

Apparently, you have fallen and you can’t get up. And no, that is not a humor line.

phoenixrising

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“…Archbishop Sebastia Theodosios (Atallah Hanna), 49, is the only Orthodox Christian archbishop from Palestine stationed in Jerusalem and the Holy Land, while all other bishops of the Patriarchate of Jerusalem are Greeks. The Israeli authorities had detained him several times, or stopped him at the border, and taken away his passport.

Among all Jerusalem clergymen he is the only one who has no privilege of passing through the VIP gate in the airport – because of his nationality. “For the Israeli authorities, I am not a bishop, but rather a Palestinian,” explains his Beatitude. When talking on the phone he says a lot of words you would normally hear from a Muslim: “Alhamdulillah, Insha’Allah, Masha’Allah”. He speaks Arabic, and the Arabic for ‘god’ is Allah, whether you are a Christian or a Muslim.

…My church has been protecting the Christian presence in the Holy Land and the sacred items related to the life of Christ and Christian Church history.

I am proud of my religion and nationality, I am proud to belong to my fatherland. I am a Palestinian, and I belong to this religious people who are fighting for the sake of their freedom and dignity to implement their dreams and national rights.

I support Palestinians and share their cause and their issues. We the Palestinian Orthodox Christians are not detached from their hardships.

The Palestinian issue is a problem that concerns all of us, Christians and Muslims alike. It’s a problem of every free intellectual individual aspiring for justice and freedom in this world.

We the Palestinian Christians suffer along with the rest of Palestinians from occupation and hardships of our economic situation. Muslims and Christians suffer equally, as there is no difference in suffering for any of us. We are all living in the same complicated circumstances, and overcoming the same difficulties…”

TradeBait2

Can we get real here? They have no idea who they are as a people. They immigrated to and around the subject land and assimilated into many societies and nations in the region since the Canaanites were there. Palestine is not a “nation” and there has been no “occupation”. It is a grouping of people looking for a land solution that has been going on for over 3000 years. There is no “fatherland” for Palestinians, nor should there be unless God makes it happen, not Hamas demons.

Cuppa Covfefe

AlJazeera or what?

Agenda much…

Aubergine

Bullshit.

Allahu Akbar means “allah is greatest.”

When they say that, they mean their god is the greatest god.

There is no such thing as a “palestinian.” The name Palestine was made up, and given to a region. Arabs in the region can call themselves palestinian, but that has no more meaning as an ethnicity than me calling myself “Southern,” and claiming that is an ethic group.

Cuppa Covfefe

EXACTLY.

Their “god” is NOT our GOD.

Ask them if Jesus is the SON of GOD.

That will provide the answer right there…..

Allah is the moon god. And that’s who they worship.

More and more Moose Slime pervy propaganda. For whom?????

Aubergine

Yes, that is a VERY good question. For whom, indeed?

phoenixrising

Meanwhile …

reports say Joe Biden is to request an additional $100bn from the US Congress for military support for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.

phoenixrising

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Note that alarming as that chart is, it’s showing a slowdown in the rate of increase. For it to follow the curve, it should jump up even more.

And there’s no reason to believe it won’t follow that curve.

TradeBait2

It cannot and will not be sustained. Too much of the world’s economy is exiting the petro dollar stage right >>>>>>>

phoenixrising

para59r

Still a world of difference from the two situations.

Being forever belligerent can earn you a hardened response, while knowing that doing less will lead back to reflection in the mirror.

pgroup2

That makes no sense to me.

mollypitcher5

If they hadn’t retaliated against the unprovoked attack would the characters be switched?
Sort of like when the jews hid in basements and attics and nazi troopers swept them out AND any who harbored them. The hamas came in and swept the villages clean

Basically jews become nazis when they hit back hard ?

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Aubergine

I have had just about enough of this shit. Truly.

We’re talking about a nation that is retaliating against terrorist animals that murdered innocent babies, children, women, and elderly people.

I am a relatively patient person, but this is really starting to piss me off.

Cuppa Covfefe

Happy black pilling.

Aubergine

Ok, seriously? That’s about enough.

I have NEVER wanted a “block” feature on this site, but by God, I want one now.

Cuppa Covfefe

Almost like a bot…

Aubergine

YEP. And I have had it up to the eyeballs.

pgroup2

Okay phoenix, what’s up with all the enemy propaganda?

Aubergine

Right? What the hell is going on?

phoenixrising

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para59r

This.

para59r

Gail Combs
para59r

Whoops… didn’t fit the narrative.
Not aproblem. Someone posted Caroline Glick’s nice talk below. It’s a definite watch.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Apparently no more speaker votes tonight (a recent decision).

Chip Roy is claiming some of the 20 holdouts have decided to flip.

We’ll see more tomorrow now doubt.

para59r

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/2506 Vid.

NOW: Thousands of youths in Ramallah chant ‘the people want the overthrow of the President (Abbas)!’

Ramallah as in the West Bank of Palestine….

mollypitcher5

The strike on Gaza’s Al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital, which officials said killed about 500 people, was the deadliest single incident in Gaza since Israel launched a campaign in retaliation for a deadly Hamas gun rampage through Israeli communities.

Israel’s military denied responsibility for the strike, blaming it on a failed Palestinian militant rocket launch. The strike drew condemnation from the West and the Arab world, and protests were staged at Israel’s embassies in Turkey and Jordan and near the U.S. embassy in Lebanon.

In the West Bank, where Abbas was returning on Tuesday after canceling a planned meeting in Jordan with U.S. President Joe Biden, hundreds of demonstrators marched in Ramallah’s central Manara Square, with some chanting in support of Hamas militant leaders.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinians-clash-with-abbas-west-bank-forces-after-gaza-hospital-strike-2023-10-17/

pgroup2

With facial recognition software, we can finally identify all the real useless eaters.

para59r

Assumes this is the newest?

para59r
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pgroup2

Got any context you can share? She looks like she just lost a court case.

para59r

My fault.. posted the picture without the link… I thought I had them together… ackkk! if you refresh you’ll see the link.

or I could just give it to you like this:
Arkansas Leads the Charge: Gov. Sarah Sanders Mandates Chinese State-Owned Company to Sell its American Farmland (VIDEO)Jim Hᴏft Oct. 17, 2023 5:30 pm 84 Comments

scott467

I’m sure Billy Gates will be pleased to take that off his chyneez partner’s hands.

Barb Meier

PAVACA, I’m on page 54 of your book, Imagination-Building, and am enjoying it a lot. Dr. Forbes was such a sweet person and I love that sometimes he uses words I have not heard in a long time. For instance, “shanty” was what we called a tiny restaurant in a train car by the old train station. Shanties made wonderful pork tenderloin sandwiches that were huge. yummm… He remembers so many names of people near where he grew up. When I’m reading the book, I don’t want to stop. hehe…

Barb Meier
scott467

Don’t forget “Sea shanty”.

It’s really very addictive… 😂

.

Barb Meier

Thanks, I enjoyed that! I wonder if his fist got a bruise from all that pounding.

cthulhu

My guess would be that it’s supposed to be a bodhrán, and the back of the guitar was used as a temporary expedient……but, yes, it wouldn’t be as ergonomic that way.

PAVACA

I’m glad you like the book. He went to school with a girl called Eunice Quedens, who later became the Eve Arden of Hollywood and “Our Miss Brooks” fame.

Barb Meier

This evening, my cousin asked what did our grandparents do to stay busy when they got old (like us). Memory: Mom decided she wanted those cute little guest soaps for her bathroom to put into a milk glass compote. I looked at various stores and found none premade. She had made cream cheese mints years before using rubber molds. So I got her some new molds and sent soap and fragrance from the craft shop. One afternoon, she made the soaps and set them on the counter to dry on top of waxed paper. My older brother and his son Isaac stopped by and came in the back kitchen door while Mom was in another room. There were these pretty “mints” on the counter. They each popped one into their mouth and got a soapy surprise. Mom and I laughed and laughed until I’m certain her face turned red and our eyes watered. I know… not funny… it was funnier because Mom was such a great cook and even though it had probably been 10+ years since she made cream cheese mints in pretty little molds… one just never knew. Now, I’m having a hankering for some tiny seasonal soaps made in little rubber molds for Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. hehe

Cuppa Covfefe

Back in the good old Uni days I had an RA (resident advisor) who from time to time partook of the “green stuff” and would have the munchies afterwards…..

As it turns out, my Mom had sent me, as a joke, a package of four “chocolates” which looked, smelled, and felt like the real thing.

Despite being 100% plastic (or something – better living through chemicals and all that)…

[You can probably guess where this is going 🙂 ]….

Soooo, one evening, my RA knocked on the door, DESPERATE for some snack, or something to relieve his hard-earned hunger…

Said chocolates came to mind  😈 

Around a half hour later, he came back, with two-and-a-half of them still intact, and rather angry, to boot… 🙂

I did the math…. hmmm… four, less 2.5 …. seems one-and-a-half went missing 😀 or?

After that he never came by with the munchies….

Good thing he didn’t kill me 😆

Barb Meier

😅😅😅😅 I love how long it took to figure it out….

Cuppa Covfefe

I rather expect that he didn’t 😆

But, when ya got the munchies 🙂

(Worse, he was right next door… My Mom thought I was terrible… “but Mom, YOU sent them to me” 🙂 )…..

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kalbokalbs

KaBOOM….

TheseTruths

Yes! Deal with it inside; no refugees.

kalbokalbs

As it should be.

Eradicate the festering cancer.

Cuppa Covfefe

Sholzie… I know nothink…..

We already have far too many regauxgees…

The “ampel coalition” is toast…..

TheseTruths
singingsoul1

They are showing who they are. They need to be voted out. They are arrogant.

TheseTruths

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I don’t know the implications of this, but it’s good news.

TheseTruths

“WWIII in a nutshell”

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mollypitcher5

Cuppa Covfefe

AniMules gotta AniMule…

para59r

TheseTruths

Pfizer issued a press release Friday afternoon stating definitively that mRNA covid vaccines “show increased risks” of myocarditis + pericarditis.

Highest risk = adolescent males.

It’s INEXCUSABLE that 1000s of college kids are STILL forced to get a shot w/these known risks.

“Seek medical attention right away if you have any of the following symptoms…”
…at which time it will be too late to save your heart from damage.

PAVACA

Myocarditis or other heart damage can hit ANYONE OF ANY AGE, MALE OR FEMALE, if they have ANY COVID-19 “vaccine” in their body.

mollypitcher5

cthulhu

If they had any semblance of an instinct towards self-preservation, they’d be protesting outside the doors of their own government…..telling them to avoid hitting the Israeli hornets’ nest with a stick.

para59r

Although the country has multiple factions of Moslem and Christian groups it’s pretty much evenly split and if they are not careful they could well slip back into a civil war.

kalbokalbs

No surprises here. SMH.

Happens every time Israel takes Hamas to task.

Early days, total support from USG.Wait a week, USG starts folding in private.Give it a few more days or a week, USG will push hard to shut down Israel efforts to throttle Hamas.

USG is a piss poor “ally.”

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kalbokalbs

Along with guns, ammo is surely enjoying hot sales.

  • Shortages and or price hikes to follow?
  • Two days ago, posted an article, Hornady ammunition plant explosion.
  • BTW, Feds have priority when they order ammo.

U.S. FIREARM SALES SURGE IN WAKE OF HAMAS ATTACK ON ISRAEL

https://www.rsbnetwork.com/news/u-s-firearm-sales-surge-in-wake-of-hamas-attack-on-israel/

kalbokalbs

Oh my. Keith Olberman apologizes…

Keith Olbermann Apologizes for Post Blaming Israel for Missile Strike on Palestinian Hospital

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Bomb-throwing leftist and repeatedly fired sports commentator Keith Olbermann blasted Israel for bombing a hospital in Gaza and demanded Joe Biden cancel a planned trip to the country, but ended up deleting the post and apologizing when evidence began to emerge that appeared to show that Israel had nothing to do with the missile strike.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2023/10/17/keith-olbermann-apologizes-for-post-blaming-israel-for-missile-strike-on-palestinian-hospital/

The Fog of War AND Competing Narratives.

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mollypitcher5

The IDF announcement

kalbokalbs

No longer available.

TheseTruths

Earlier on this page, Pavaca posted this:

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/reports-from-the-front-lines-of-the-530

“Reports From The Front Lines Of The Vaccine Catastrophe – Part 5”

Yours Truly: Dr. Kory mentions “gaslit” in his article. He also includes messages from a frontline RN about the increase of cancer diagnoses at her hospital, including cancers of the pineal gland, the spinal cord, and of glioblastoma, in “vaccinated” patients as young as 8 years old.

The article includes accounts of increased frequency of certain types of disease as well as communications between health care workers, and is worth the time to look at, IMO. I just came to the part about there being 8 new glioblastoma cancer cases on the schedule. I had wondered how common it was because someone I had peripheral contact with last year just died of it. I didn’t know her but knew of her. She was a woman in her late 60s, I think. I have no clue about her vax status, but if I had to guess I would bet she was vaxed. I think she passed within a couple of months of diagnosis.

The glioblastoma patients in the article ranged in age from 8 to 52. There was another report of a glioblastoma patient who had been vaxed and boosted. IMO it is significant that the health care workers were making note of this.

From 2019:
https://www.mdanderson.org/cancerwise/7-glioblastoma-brain-tumor-myths.h00-159299889.html

Glioblastoma is the most common and aggressive primary brain tumor in adults. Although it’s considered a rare cancer, with about 12,000 new diagnoses each year, it’s gained increased visibility recently with the diagnoses of a few high-profile people.

John McCain and Ted Kennedy both had it. 

kalbokalbs

The article TT & PAVACA links above is part five, of five.

Links to the first four are in the first line of Kory’s fifth article.

These five articles ARE keepers. I have downloaded them all. Great information.

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TheseTruths

The info they contain is chilling. This Part 5 reports on how hospitals here and in the UK were not correctly nothing that patients were vaxed in order to hide the incriminating data. That is medical malpractice.

Linda

We’ve been noticing how many people in my Fenben group are coming in with rare cancers. There are a lot with glioblastoma, including young kids, and many pancreatic cancers, which are also rare.

rayzorback

Mc TRAITOR arthy… (Scalise… his and Boners deputy) < Also TRAITORS.
Judicial Watch…..

mollypitcher5

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