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Badlands News Brief – November 9, 2023
7 Nashville Cops Put on Leave After Partial Leak of Mass Shooter’s Manifesto
And, according to Crowder, none were the source of the darn thing.
“The Forrest Gump of January 6 Cases”
California’s Governor Newsom Introduces “Cradle to Career” System That Tracks One Billion Data Points on Citizens
Voting Machine Company That ‘Flipped’ Votes in Pennsylvania Admits ‘Someone Programmed the Election’
‘Vacate’ Her: Republicans Call on Ronna McDaniel to Resign Following Tuesday’s Elections
400 earthquakes recorded under Mount St. Helens since mid-July
I’ve been watching this for months. There’s quite a number of videos now out on the matter.
Marjorie Taylor Greene Writes Epic Rant Revealing the REAL Reason Republicans Keep Losing Elections
Republican debate verdict: ‘Impressive’ Haley shines, ‘stupid’ Vivek self-destructs
Uh, no. Headline for narrative shaping if there ever was one. Vivek dropped major red pills that professional Republicans don’t want swallowed.
EXCLUSIVE: House Republicans Introduce Legislation To Prevent Ukraine From Stealing US Taxpayer Dollars
U.S. Banks Are Sitting on $650 Billion in Unrealized Losses, and That Means Disaster Is Just a Bank Run Away
Tweety Tweets:
The videos of “nuclear blasts” too?
Yeah, no.
Beware of short, southern women.
Really? This part of conspiracy lore is a bit out there even for me, and it ends up on FOX?
VIVA ESPANA!
MEME STASH:
And it’s heartbreaking.
Pray for me. My brother wants one of those.
And now for the business portion of the post borrowed from Tuesday:
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Fellow tree dweller the late Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:
- No food fights.
- No running with scissors.
- If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
And Auntie DePat’s requests:
If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.
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PSALMS 98:1-4
1O sing to the LORD a new song, for he has done marvelous things! His right hand and his holy arm have gotten him victory. 2The LORD has made known his victory, he has revealed his vindication in the sight of the nations. 3He has remembered his steadfast love and faithfulness to the house of Israel. All the ends of the earth have seen the victory of our God. 4Make a joyful noise to the LORD, all the earth; break forth into joyous song and sing praises!
Sang this at rehearsal this week:
SATIRE!
Have a good weekend!
I don’t think I have ever been this close to being first but nonetheless…
I encountered Sara Groves back when she released her first album, “Conversations” back in the 1990s I think. One of those first songs has stayed with me over the decades and I present it for your consideration.
Wonderful!
Question Wolfie.
I do not seem to have access to “tags” and to Header picture choices for my Articles anymore.
Are you under the “Post” tab? Or the “Block” tab? That makes a difference. Also, if you are seeing neither tab, look for a gear icon to get that toolbox to show.
Now I am in ‘edit’
On the right top I got three dots. Clicking that got me a drop down.
On the left is an X with a drop down with a ton of options.
Go left from that to the icon that looks like a right sidebar in a square, and shows the word “Settings” when you hover over it.
From the far left is:
W [view posts]
X [Toggle Block Inserter] where I found ‘featured image but no way to get to the menu of stored images.
Left of Jetpack got me where I think you want me. Another drop down.
It has categories and set featured image and publish date.
It looks different than it did when I wrote the draft and set the publish date.
Looks like everything is good to go. Now I just have to figure out HOW I DID IT! 🙄
We had a minor WordPress update last night or the night before!
Well I will keep my fingers crossed I can repeat the feat in the future.
Remember I am ‘Computer Challenged’ I have never taken a computer course in my life!
There is a SIDEBAR icon in the upper right corner. Click it to get the sidebar on the right back, then click the POST tab.
Beautiful 💖🙏 Thanks for sharing!
Well, … you made it … to being first. 🙄
Thank you, De Pat, for a fun, formidable, and fantastic Friday post!
The “men crying” video inexplicably omitted the emotional climax of “Old Yeller.”
For those unfamiliar…..
The basic story is that a youngster, Travis, comes across a stray dog in post-Civil War Texas. Random incidents occur where the dog’s loyalty and courage favor the boy’s family and save the boy’s life, while random characters drift through the story warning of a rabies outbreak.
One of the incidents looks bad for the dog for rabies, but the family decides to quarantine the dog rather than kill it outright. It is almost far enough through the quarantine to call “safe”, when the dog shows signs. For self-preservation, the family is going to kill the dog when the boy takes the rifle and performs the task himself.
There is a bit of a coda involving a puppy, but the climax of the movie is when Travis kills Old Yeller, the dog he loves and who loves him and has protected him, because somebody has to do it.
That’s a great cartoon! Only really good laugh I’ve gotten out of the TRAIN WRECK of an election!
So long as we have RINOs on the RNC, she will be there…doing this.
What’s up with Mittens’ fingers on his right hand? That is so unnatural.
So is he.
Exactly. Not limited to his hand.
I think it’s a gang hand sign????
That is what I think. I have seen parents teach such to their kids. 
Court rules automakers can record and intercept owner text messages
Seems like a Fourth Amendment issue to me. However, when people connect their phones to their vehicle infotainment system, they know their data is being read by the vehicle. The answer is to either not have a car with these capabilities, which will be increasingly difficult over time, or to not connect your smart phone, if you have one, to the car. It is still possible to drive without accessing text messages and phone calls through your car, even if it has the capability to do so.
Another solultion is to get laws passed, which might be difficult.
“In an example of the issues at stake, plaintiffs in one of the five cases filed suit against Honda in 2021, arguing that beginning in at least 2014 infotainment systems in the company’s vehicles began downloading and storing a copy of all text messages on smartphones when they were connected to the system.”
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So private companies (automakers) can create their own blackmail databases, and then sell that blackmail material to whichever 3-letter criminal agency wants it.
Like a private-public partnership.
Or fascism, as it used to be called, in the good old days.
But I.B. Textin wants only the very best for its customers!
“Once messages are downloaded, Berla’s software makes it impossible for vehicle owners to access their communications and call logs but does provide law enforcement with access, the lawsuit said.”
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Well, isn’t that special.
“However, when people connect their phones to their vehicle infotainment system, they know their data is being read by the vehicle.”
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I would guess less than 1% have any idea their data is being downloaded and saved by the automaker to share with rogue government and sell to blackmailers and spammers.
And if they did know, they’d be none too happy about it, which would create an opportunity for some automaker to sell cars that are NOT honeypots.
You could then choose, and the marketplace would decide which was more successful.
You could choose one of the KGB Spy-on-Me models, or you could choose a Freedom car.
And may the best car win.
I agree that they don’t know. I myself don’t KNOW it, but I am highly suspicious and therefore don’t trust some third party to have my data. The lowest threat level from it, IMO, is that the data will be used to target you for advertising. This is a well-known practice that should be no surprise to anyone. It is also well known that modern, computerized cars collect driving data. Also, big companies lie; again, no surprise. The government does not follow its own rules that are meant to protect us. No surprise there.
A Freedom Car would be great, as would a freedom bank, phone, credit card, etc. Some efforts have been made in these directions, but not nearly enough. And even then, some people slap a “patriot” label on something when they have nefarious intentions.
Maybe the march toward making everything computerized or digital, or whatever the term is, will be slowed since it is making things so much more complicated and expensive. There might be a market for a freedom car once enough people wake up. Retro can be very cool.
One of the things about Linux is that Mac systems and Windows systems “are what they are” — you have no visibility into the internals and limited control over what is included in a system and what is not.
It remains to be seen what kind of system will be included in cars. It might be like car radios used to be — you plug in what you want. It might be like Macs/Windows v. Linux with computers — if you discard what comes with, you can load what you want.
Giving the people a choice would be nice.
Bastards, known so far. Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen and General Motors.
Wondering about the rest. Ford, Ram, Jeep, Subaru, Toyota, Tesla…
Here’s a short video about the American lawyer who shot two protestors who were blocking the road in Panama.
The guy doing the presentation does lots of firearms review videos, and he is a “U.S. Lawshield self-defense attorney”.
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He said the things that I have thought to be true about the threat level in the situation. IMO, the shooter had no cause to kill anyone, or even to pull a gun on them.
I’ve seen comments online cheering for the shooter. I find it sickening that two people were killed in cold blood. I also think the narrator of the video has too much of a cavalier attitude.
Some people appear to think that, if protesters are on the opposite end of the political spectrum, their lives are expendable. I can only imagine the outrage if protesters on the Right were doing something annoying and stupid and even harmful in some ways, and someone on the Left shot them dead when they weren’t directly threatening the shooter. Equal protection under the law should apply.
AMEN!
“Climate loons could be YOUR loony relatives. They deserve dispersal using reasonable force. Not murder.”
^^^This.
Some of us may have loonier relatives than others…..
AMEN!
Some EARN their Darwin Awards by diligent activity.
Activists have been pushing and pushing and pushing and getting worse and worse over the years to the point they now think they have the RIGHT to disrupt people’s lives, beat up people they do not know, set fire to their businesses and even kill them.
Authorities do NOTHING to curb this activity and even egg it on.
Lethal Retaliation was bound to happen. I an surprised at the restraint shown so far.
This. Law enforcement by their inaction are abdicating the enforcement of laws to the citizens on the street. If they do not want to be involved in keeping streets open and free flowing, then they should not involve themselves in the consequences of not keeping the streets open and free flowing.
E X A C T L Y. Post further up yammers about this.
If LE was doing its job, it would remove the protesters without killing them. If LE does not do its job, IMO that does not excuse people from killing others when they were not being threatened. I’ve seen motorists drag protesters off the streets. But death is final.
Anybody familiar with gun ownership at the levels needed to NOT GO TO JAIL understands that the law prior to communism was reasonable, and has gotten better (ignoring commie lawfare application or failure thereof). Castle doctrine, etc. Just follow the law of citizen action, whether armed or not.
B I N G O !. Please see my post further up.
I did and I certainly agree…. DARWIN AWARDS!
Exactly. Pushing everyone, not just loonies, to the brink is a recipe for vigilante justice or individuals feeling they have no recourse against these lawbreakers.
This week I began watching a Korean TV series called VIGILANTE. It is about a police cadet who’s mother was murdered when he was a child by a repeat offender given a very light sentence. His motivation, besides his mother’s murder was the collapse of the judicial system that no longer gave appropriate punishment for criminal acts. It is interesting in the way you describe because the vigilante becomes a hero to the Korean public at the same time the police label him a criminal. I am a fan of Korean TV because they generally frame their stories as morality tales. Justice usually prevails.
For anyone who may be interested it is on HULU.
Dirty Harry Korean style
I have only watched the first 2 episodes so I don’t yet know if he will go full Dirty Harry or not. Korea does not have guns in the hands of law abiding citizens as a rule so they are still in the sticks, blades, and whatever is to hand stage of street justice. The typical Korean TV series is 16 episodes so developments are still developing.
Korean TV is quite popular with many.
Subtitles, get the message across nicely.
You are right kalb. I think reading the dialog actually cements the story more firmly in my mind.
To a certain extent, I can see both sides of that. Going back to Heinlein’s dictum that “an armed society is a polite society” and the Code Duello, society as a whole can benefit if disproportionate horrible things happen to people outside of due process.
Conversely, Soros’ prosecutors are doing their level best to show that “due process” can lead to lawlessness and civil chaos.
I truly believe that those attacking civilization — attacking artworks in museums and busy roadways — might need a whiff of grapeshot beyond a “notice to appear”. It might encourage the offenders to write a letter of protest instead of confronting others.
If there is no real LAW, then it WILL self organize.
That is why the Commies are trying so desperately to get our guns.
I should note that the Code Duello was a set of rules and had its own notions of due process.
Not unlike the Code Democrat.
Just different notions, and different rules.
Laws Must be enforced. Or citizens will apply street justice.
Yup. I agree. We should not retreat from street justice. We should embrace it IF NEEDED and while doing so [in Trump’s words] L-E-G-A-L-L-Y-!!! People should be familiar with their rights, duties, and responsibilities in making a citizen’s arrest.
Absolutely. Legally. Lawfully. I will. I do believe folks in many areas, may decide, enough is enough. Dunno who, where or what will actually trigger others. But its gonna happen. I think.
Hopefully, they, whoever they is, will remain within the law.
The left will FUME and RAGE and ABUSE the law – arresting those who keep the law – but factually legal enforcement of the law is an EXCELLENT form of non-violent civil disobedience.
One problem. There is NO enforcement.
I’ll let this go. I surmise we all know the problem, solution and frustration, with status quo.
AND NO REAL LAW.
The indictments of Trump & Jan 6thers and NON-Indictments of Violent Rioters have already proved that.
Yup. Lack of enforcement means WE THE PEOPLE have to fight back from the jungle to the society that we want. Difficult times will breed men and women of character! WILD WEST.
What is interesting is there were far fewer murders during the ‘Wild West’ Mainly because most people were armed.
Also the Cabal would want to propagate the myth that guns = LOTS OF MURDERERS.
Wasn’t that “citizen’s arrest?”
My understanding, “citizen’s arrest,” vary by state.
Is it terribly wrong to glue their hands together instead of to precious works of art or roadways?
or to their rumps so they can not do much damage.
I agree, and the narrator does a lot of firearm reviews, his attitude is always like that 😂
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“Some people appear to think that, if protesters are on the opposite end of the political spectrum, their lives are expendable.”
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I think normal people are so far beyond exasperated with being unpersoned, that what they think counts for nothing and the America-hating or protected class are the only people who count, that on the exceptionally rare occasion that a Leftist whack-job gets a dose of their own medicine, normal people are momentarily or reflexively exhilarated.
I don’t think it’s about considering people who choose the dark side as being expendable, I don’t think normal people even think that way. I think it’s just an involuntary ‘release’ of pent-up frustration, that one of the zombies who are continually empowered by government to kick sand in our faces finally got some back.
They finally experienced what would happen to non-protected class (or non-politically favored class) if we pulled that kind of crap.
There’s more than enough of that pent-up anger at the two-tiered system to blow the top off of a mountain in this country.
“…I think it’s just an involuntary ‘release’ of pent-up frustration, that one of the zombies who are continually empowered by government to kick sand in our faces finally got some back….”
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AND the fervent hope it just might knock some sense into the rest of the loonies littering our highways.
Given that many of these loonies WANT US DEAD, and would gladly kill us if they could, makes it tough to feel any thing.
I keep remembering the guy in Boston I danced with who asked Hubby where we lived because he wanted to know where to find us so he could kill us when the ‘Revolution’ happened. That was four decades ago and they have only gotten MORE AGGRESSIVE.
Of course, you told him Rhode Island [or similar yucky place].
And why the hell were you dancing with the enemy?
Contras & Squares in Lexington.
In the Boston area there are very few NON enemies!
I have even danced with Richard Stallman (He is a good dancer BTW)
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“I can only imagine the outrage if protesters on the Right were doing something annoying and stupid and even harmful in some ways, and someone on the Left shot them dead when they weren’t directly threatening the shooter.”
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Well that’s just it, you’d have to imagine it, because people on the right (normal people) don’t act that way in the first place, they don’t go around blocking roads or rioting or burning down cities.
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“Equal protection under the law should apply.”
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If only.
I sure wish we had equal protection under law. Even basic recognition would be a step up.
We should be so lucky as the protected-classes.
Thank you! My thoughts exactly. I would NEVER act the way these repeat, gov’t-sanctioned demonstrators constantly disrupt lives, destroy cities, and instill fear in “little old ladies” like me!!
I’m actually offended at the ‘imagine if’ statement in this scenario.
I’m guessing you would never act as the shooter in this situation did, either.
At this point we have ZERO IDEA of what actually happened.
We have multiple examples of POOR …. Pick a leftist symbol… Killed by HORRIBLE WHITE MAN, as portrayed by the media only to find out later the ‘leftist symbol’ engaged in actions that GOT THEM KILLED.
We also do not know what the mindset of this older man was.We do know he is a lawyer and that no one was scared of him after the shooting.
So far, every video and analysis of the video that I have seen for this incident are confirmatory of my position, that the old gentleman stepped outside of the bounds of self-defense and will be found guilty. Manslaughter at the least, possibly Murder 2.
I was there on January Sixth. I saw people pushed into an emotional state by the communists, and then tricked into acting on it.
Q said it best. LOGICAL THINKING. You can NEVER do more than what the police would do in the same situation. And even now the evil left condemns police for doing what they SHOULD do.
I have been in some nasty situations with the other side, and the ability to remain calm and logical is a blessing from God.
We will have to see what transpires. As a lawyer, he may have kept back video clearing him of wrong doing that has not been presented to the Public at large.
I doubt that he is the only person in possession of videos of the incident. He would not have control of other people’s videos.
Could be, but what we already have on video appears DEFINITIVE that the shooter had no justification. EVEN if the person he shot was armed (he was VISIBLY unarmed), the person DID NOT REACH – had his hands at his side – was not moving, advancing, or doing anything that could justify deadly force EVEN WITH A CASTLE DOCTRINE. Even if the victim had shown a gun earlier, and issued threats, he had returned to a state of being non-threatening. That is a VERY important point, that will SINK any claim of self-defense.
I’m getting the impression that few here are adequately trained in legal self-defense for their own safety. There is a LOT of room in legal self-defense, but it is not infinite, and it leaves a lot of room for leftists to SET PEOPLE UP. Leftists have tried to set me up several times, and it’s important to err on the side of full legal backing.
My trainers even advised very specifically on carry techniques that are compatible with rolling on the ground fighting, because of the likelihood that you will not have justification to even DRAW until physical assault has already occurred. Thus, shooting a guy standing there with no current threat and no visible weapon is so far off the menu that I never ever considered any scenario that would justify it, in my prep, other than mental preparation to remain calm, cool, DE-ESCALATING, and make no threatening moves of any kind, when so confronted with protesting leftists.
Kyle Rittenhouse was a model of doing it right. NEVER fired until he had perfect legal justification. Saved his ass!
There has been a lot of talk here about not thinking and acting out of emotion. But not only does it seem that some are excusing that very thing in this instance, but they themselves are justifying the taking of a human life because of their own emotions.
No,
We are saying the taking of a human life happens when the commies push ordinarily law abiding citizens too far.
AND
We hope it serves as an object lesson to the young idiots that get dragged into these situations with NO THOUGHT to the possible ramifications.
NOW there is an OBJECT LESSON.
Pushing people too far can GET YOU KILLED! You never ever know when someone, a stranger, will snap.
It “happens”? That sounds like an excuse to me.
Good Grief!
PEOPLE LOSE THEIR TEMPER AND LITERALLY GO TEMPORARILY INSANE!
I was in a situation where my commute was over an hour in Boston Traffic.
Unfortunately I had no choice but to travel a road where teens EVERY SINGLE DAY would stretch from ditch to ditch and walk SLOWLY home stalling me for 15 to 20 minutes every day near the end of my commute.
This was literally very painful because I was driving a standard tranny and if I stopped THEY stopped so I was constantly having to use my clutch… With a screaming ruptured disc.
This went on for WEEKS and WEEKS!
Finally I had enough.
I crept up right behind them, almost touching, put my tranny in neutral and ROARED my engine as loud as I could.
I scared the crap out of those teens and they never did it to me again.
They were lucky. I did not kill them though I easily could and someone else might have.
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A Truck Driver who had a NJ turnpike coin collector piss him off RAN OVER the collector booth and all. Seems he had just been diagnosed with terminal cancer and had a long standing complaint.
>>>>>>>>>>>
For all we know this guy may have Turbo Cancer and really really DOES NOT GIVE A CRAP because he will never live to see the trial.
Instead of whining about murder, how about looking at the ROOT CAUSE???
This was a set-up by the Cabal from the get-go… AND it will happen again if things do not change.
Actually, as people realize they have been poisoned AND discover they have Turbo Cancer, I expect to see more murders and such.
The fact UNC Hospital had a sign pleading with people NOT to get violent is a Harbinger.
My next question is not an argument one way or the other; I am asking your opinion: If that happened in this case, are you saying the killings were justified?
Is this directed to me? If so, I object to the characterization of whining. And looking at facts, murder did occur.
The man was frustrated and angry. I empathize; I have argued many times against the blocking of streets. In your opinion, does the root cause justify murder?
Are you saying there is no personal responsibility?
Yes, this will become more common, unfortunately, as we are denied our rights and goaded into emotional responses that can lead to rash actions. Reacting out of emotion has been mentioned here many times.
No, we are at cross purposes.
I want to know how and why and who is behind it in the hopes of shifting civilization towards a better course.
As I said to Molly, if we KNOW what the Cabal is trying to do we can guard against it and FRUSTRATE THE HECK OUT OF THE TRUE MURDERERS.
Actually I have been very proud of the Right for their restraint.
Heck we have no idea of what side of the Globalist divide this killer Lawyer is. He could very well be a Globalist. Do we really KNOW if the protesters are even dead?
I agree.
TV news crews were there. They captured more footage than we have seen. I believe the protesters are dead. Otherwise, it would be a conspiracy of huge proportions involving all the other protesters, the families of the “dead,” the hospitals, the news crews, law enforcement, etc. I think sometimes we try to make things too complicated. As you say, *they* are goading us, and sometimes that’s all it takes. We have to be ready and not fall into traps, which is difficult.
Also when there’s no expectation that law enforcement will uh..enforce the law very bad choices can happen
It is WHY we need to know what the Psy-ops that is being played on us is.
If you KNOW they are trying to stampede you into doing something unlawful, you are more likely to stay well with in the law to FRUSTRATE THE HECK OUT OF THEM!
Ain’t it a shame that being a law abiding person is mucked up with hoping that we’re not going to get our ass beat but taking pleasure in frustrating their little games !! We have to be in an alternate reality,,have to be. this can’t be real!
Well I for one am very glad I am in the middle of nowhere NC instead of stuck in an apartment in the combat zone in Boston.
One season was ENOUGH!
Which raises an interesting point — what happens when 30% of the population realizes that they’ve been poisoned by the vaxx and have only a short time to live?
YEAH…
Especially when they are not as religious and forgiving as TheseTruths.
I have been wondering what happens when Israeli Soldiers figure it out.
Now that is optimistic.
Only 30%.
It’s not optimistic about the jabs; it’s pessimistic about people waking up.
Oh.
That is pessimistic if aa huge swath of jabbed folks, have not figured out the jabs ARE poison.
Positive here.
A cousin PMed me today saying she got her vaccine at Walmart today. Another cousin called awhile back and said she was excited about getting the new vaccine. I don’t try to talk with them about their choice. Both are democrats so discussion would be futile.
Sad. DW family in CA all jabbed and boosted, every booster. All of them over 50, have long term illnesses. Their children and grands also jabbed and boosted.
Trump hat on my mellon, we don’t talk Covidiocy, politics….
The evil UniParty via it’s lawfare left is trying to “J6” all of us right now. It’s a remarkable plan, and it seems to be working better than I would have expected.
EXACTLY!
Except it is NOT working well because people are NOT physically violent.
J6 aftermath has proven that we’re on our own . The cavalry is not coming to our rescue
A very nasty wake-up call for people who thought we lived in a Constitutional Republic.
who exactly are the “imagine if’s” you refer to ? I cannot think of one fellow patriot I’ve come across in the last 7 years of political strife who has done what this man alledgedly did. So why the “imagine if” at all? 🤷♀️
your construct implies that there are rational people defending this man’s actions. That is not what I am seeing at all.
and, as Gail points out, we do not have full disclosure or facts. What happened to waiting 72 hours or even longer before passing judgment?
no one on this blog or in MAGAville is advocating murder under any curcumstances, nor blurred the line between self-defense and murder.
I don’t know what you’re referring to.
Good. Then there is no need for discussion. Everyone agrees that a person not being threatened with imminent bodily harm has no right to shoot people dead. Case closed.
That’s funny.
Here I thought the discussion was on the guy in Panama. Limited, facts seen. Huge, unknowns.
Now it appears to be, in general, don’t shoot cuz one is frustrated. (Obviously)
From the guy who professes to thrive on facts. Not jump to conclusions. Looks like a huge leap, to guilty.
As you say. Case Closed.
Yea I said, moving on.
It IS about that. More is known than people admit. I’m reading some articles now. Of course, the argument then becomes “you can’t trust what the media reports.”
Where did I give an opinion of guilt? I have been arguing principles, which is exactly what “don’t shoot cuz one is frustrated” is.
I was told something that apparently everyone agrees on, so I said, good, no need for discussion, then. Which is apparently not true because there is so much pushback.
Here are some facts, if one trusts the Daily Mail. I doubt they would make up statements from attorneys.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12730629/Kenneth-Darlington-panama-lawyer-shooting-eco-protest-victims.html
• The shooter told his wife or girlfriend, in the car, “This ends today.” If true, that looks like premeditation.
• He asked her to drive off afterward, and she refused.
• His defense appears to be “old age,” not that he thought he was threatened (though of course that could change).
“Eliécer Plicett, a lawyer who is representing the families of the victims, said Darlington’s defense attorney attempted to convince the judge that he showed weakness of old age and that he was not in the right mind to comprehend his actions.
“Darlington’s attorney, Jorge Ceballos, asked the court for a psychiatric evaluation.”
• “One of the other people in the car asked him: ‘Are you aware of what has happened?’ The court heard his response was: ‘Yes, I killed one and shot another.'”
If he said “because I feared for my life,” they left that part out.
I have never said that. I’m talking about principles and facts.
More from the article:
If these reports of what the shooter and his lawyer said are not true, then they should be loudly protesting. We should be hearing that he thought his life was in danger, not that he might need a psychiatric evaluation.
My sole argument in this is that if a person does not believe their life is being threatened, or the life of someone else, they are not justified in using deadly force — even if, after they pull a gun, the other person taunts them to shoot.
I haven’t seen even one fact, innuendo, or statement that indicates the shooter thought he was under threat. I will be interested to see what else comes out.
As do I. And…? Are we justified in killing someone out of frustration?
Some people answer to a higher power. A question that each has to ask themselves is whether they think such an action would be justified according to their system of beliefs — not the excuses they make, but the actual system of beliefs. Because what I’m seeing generally is the discarding of principles, doctrines, and the rule of law in order to excuse behavior that amounts to a lack of self control.
I doubt that any, or many of us, knows what it’s like to live with the fact they they killed someone who wasn’t threatening them. It’s hard enough to accept that when they were being threatened. Ask a cop.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/daniel-finney/2016/06/23/see-yourself-how-cops-feel-shooting-someone/86164626/
https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1310&context=thesesdissertations
But people sit behind their computer screens and think they know what it’s like. There’s a reason for the rule of law, and there’s a reason for religious doctrines as well.
And when rule of law, CEASES TO EXIST.
In that case, we become enforcers of the law, and we should act within it.
Everybody should, IMO, have a plan for helping their friends and neighbors create true law and order when the authorities fall apart.
I suspect the answer is duct tape. Make sure you have plenty of duct tape. You can tape an aggressor to the wall with duct tape until law enforcement arrives.
Gorilla tape…
It holds my trucks together….
Very much like passengers on a plane!
Pulling the gun, could have been, to neutralize a threat. Verbal or not.
This is in Panama. Wonder what Panama law states.
Odd as hell, to me anyway. Shooter shoots. Folks do NOT scurry away. Some walk away. Some stand around. <<< SERIOUSLY, is that normal?
We do NOT have the complete story. Likely Never will have the complete story.
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PROBLEM.
Climate protestors, BLM, Antifa…Do Anything They Want, With 100% Impunity.
LE IGNORES climate activists, BLM, Antifa shit heads.
LE, DAs ALLOW these ass holes to do anything they wish, incidents like this will increasingly occur.
Law abiding citizens are supposed to Accept this criminal behavior?
Law abiding citizens are supposed to turn the other cheek? Endlessly?
HELL NO. Something has to stop Criminals. Includes Protestors, stopping traffic. Stopping commerce. Denying Freedom Of Movement.
IF LE, DAs do NOT step up. Citizens WILL Step Up. I Am Good With It.
Difficult for me to muster any give a shit, for the assholes protesting. Including the dead dummies.
A bunch of dancing bullets?
Well it seems to fit…
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Dancing bananas. 🙂
Banana peels are racist you know 😜
Discarded Banana Peel Causes Racial Hysteria at Ole Miss – Townhall
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Stoopid PrizesDarwin Awards.Killing someone NOT out of self-defense is also a “stupid game.” The shooter’s life as he knew it is over.
Gotta wonder if the dude ever had any training, or was just getting senile and forgot it.
Or had Turbo Cancer and really did not care.
There’s a lot of truth in what you say.
No. They are supposed to continue to be law-abiding, especially when it comes to human life. Death a finality that can’t be remedied.
Obeying the law does allow one to shoot someone else, in self-defense. But not out of anger.
IF the shooter was not threatened with imminent bodily harm, then IMO he was not justified in taking lives. We can come up with excuses all day (and I’m not saying your points are excuses), but the bottom line is that he murdered two people in cold blood because he was frustrated and angry (unless we hear a defense from him that he was threatened). There is video of the incident. I haven’t seen anyone report that he was threatened.
I don’t want to live in a world of vigilante justice, where my actions, or more probably, words, could set someone off and they shoot me.
“…I don’t want to live in a world
of vigilante justice,where my actions, or more probably, words, could set someone off and they shoot me….”….
Unfortunately we are fast approaching that situation.
And incidents like this, if not dealt with lawfully, will escalate the situation.
KEY WORD is Lawfully. We have not seen stuff dealt with lawfully in a long time.
In some cases, yes and in others, no. But I’m not sure how that relates to the situation in question. Are people saying that, if things are not being dealt with lawfully, that justifies the unlawful use of force by citizens, to the point of killing people?
It goes to the frustration level of the general population.
You keep putting in the Strawman “JUSTIFIES”
I am not talking about ‘justify’ I am talking about WHY something is more likely to happen as the Cabal keeps piling on the presure.
Here is a different case of ‘frustration’
Australian Man Hunts Down Vaxer Doctor and Attacks His Car with a Boomerang After Family Member Dies!
I bring up justification because it has been part of the discussion with others, and it has been argued on other sites.
…as far as
weyou “know.”Lotsa cell phones. Everywhere. Video normally starts by many, quickly.
Hmmmm.
I don’t want to live in a world of vigilante justice, where my actions, or more probably, words, could set someone off and they shoot me.
^^^ We already do. Arguments, fisticuffs, knives, guns, any type of weapon, endless possibilities.
Would be nice if LE, DAs, AGs, FIB, DOJ, S T A R T E D doing their “Sworn” duty.
He should have organized a citizens’ arrest. Completely justified, and there are enough people there to do it, too.
That has happened. Plenty of conservative protesters have been viciously beaten and I remember one guy stalked and killed ( maybe in Oregon or Washington) by antifa. The cops usually ignore antifa and push back on conservatives.
And at MOST they get a slap on the wrist.
I bet there are a number of conservatives that now have permanent traumatic brain injuries from reinforced flag poles, bike locks, skateboards, brass knuckles and being stomped in the head.
And friends who are doing a slow steam….
If things ever do go south I would NOT want to be a blue haired soy boy.
…omg that reminded me. Remember one of early Trump events when the leftists chased men, women and children ? That poor lady getting cornered and spit on……the beginning of the police not protecting law abiding rally attendants
MANY Trump rallies had these sorts of problems.
LE stood around, OR walked away.
NO ONE GOT A Jan 6ther Treatment.
Exactly.
WE have to show backbone.
Standing up for the police is one of the first things we need to do.
Backing the Blue has gotten a bit hard considering time and again when they arrest everyone except the instigators and destructive ones.
In many cases they’re no longer to be trusted. Wasn’t it a recent declaration that their job is not to protect and serve ?
The police are abused by the left. I keep that in mind. Some forgiveness is needed, even as I employ “Don’t Talk To The Police”. They are caught between We The People and Them The Evil Ones. It’s a tricky dance!
And they are slowly losing it. Soros Judges and Prosecutors are not helping matters.
It is tricky for sure.
Wasn’t it a recent declaration that their job is not to protect and serve ?
A couple of Supreme Court Cases. NO DUTY to protect.
Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms…
mises.org
San Jose.
And if someone is in fear of harm of their life, they can fight back. But that’s not what happened here, as far as we know.
…as far as we know.
So two possible scenarios are these:
1.Something occurred that made the shooter think his life was in danger, and he acted out of self-defense. He pulled his gun because he felt he was under threat of imminent bodily harm.
In this instance, his deadly force would have been justified.
2.The way it appears is exactly how it went down. That is, the shooter was frustrated, pulled a gun, escalated without being in fear for his life, and murdered two people in cold blood.
Very few people will even acknowledge that the second scenario could be the correct one. Lots of what appear to be excuses are being made. And very few will take it a step further and condemn his actions if that is indeed what happened.
Collateral damage of this incident is that a gun owner did not act responsibly (to put it mildly; two people are dead), fueling the rage of the Left.
THANKFULLY, This Case IS Closed.
NO trial required.
After all, Facts Are In…
The way it appears is exactly how it went down. That is, the shooter was frustrated, pulled a gun, escalated without being in fear for his life, and murdered two people in cold blood.
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Here, moving on.
“….Very few people will even acknowledge that the second scenario could be the correct one. Lots of what appear to be excuses are being made…..”
….
No, excuses are NOT what are being made. These OBSERVATIONS are:
#1 The Commies/Cabal via their LIES and agitating set-up a situation where idiots felt they MUST protest to ‘save GAIA’
#2. The Commies/Cabal set up a situation where UNLAWFUL behavior has been encouraged FOR YEARS by FAILURE TO PROSECUTE Protesters and VIOLENT RIOTERS.
#3. The situation has escalated over years until ordinary citizens are frustrated.
#4. Ordinary citizens are THEN baited into a trap and tossed into jail FOR YEARS under nasty conditions BEFORE TRIAL. To add insult to injury, these ordinary citizens used their Constitutional rights and none did anything as bad or worse than the ANTIFA or BLM
protestorsrioters have been doing for years. And yet they are not treated ‘equally’ under the law.#6. The current Admin, who is despised, is targeting a political opponent. Instead of prosecuting REAL VIOLENT CRIME they are prosecuting indictments that are IDIOTIC to anyone who glances at them with a 1/2 way open mind.
#5. On top of that is the major inflation bankrupting the middle class, people have lost businesses, they have lost family to medical
malpracticemurder…Under this psychological pressure cooker, I am very very surprised we have not had MORE of these type of killings. Especially since many people may think there is NO HOPE of a political resolution and we are heading for a slavery that will last centuries.
heads up…alarming details…
Terrorists And Saboteurs Are Surging Into America
article link…
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20128/terrorists-saboteurs-border-migrants
11/08
a caravan of 7,000 foreigners is now heading our way…
by foot, by boat, by truck, by plane…
>> those who do not live in this hemisphere usually fly to Quito b/c Equador allows visa-free entry to the Chinese “and others” from the Middle East and the Central Asia “stans”….
>> from Equador, they go into Columbia, from there they take one of three routes into the Darien Gap (north Columbia & southern Panama)..
>> the Chinese use the most expensive & safest of the routes.
>> Chinese usually start at Necocli (east side of Gulf of Uraba, southern end of Caribbean Sea)…they take a boat from there to the other side of the Gulf, then they are smuggled by boat to Panama..from there, they trek on foot across the Darien jungle, eventually boating, walking & being trucked to the San Vicente Camp, the staging center being funded by the Biden admin specifically to facilitate this “migration”.
>> from there, they take “quick rides” thru Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Quatemala & Mexico…they cross each of those countries illegally..
but….
the Chinese aren’t the scariest of the hordes…
>> the military-age Syrian males and the South American gang affiliates are.
aliens from over a hundred foreign countries are in this invasion…
Chinese
Arabs
Afghans
Pakistanis
Iranians
just to name a few.
>> and now a new twist : Cuba is most likely working with the Chinese aliens, smuggling them into the US thru Key Largo.
read more, at the link.
We are in trouble 😳
Trouble.
severely at risk.
that plus Gail’s post below 👇👇
It’s an invasion. I don’t talk to enough Leftards to know but they see these pictures and it doesn’t scare them in the least ????
Leftards are TAUGHT not to draw logical conclusions.
Heck we can see that in the idiot college students supporting HAMAS.
A more classic example was an EU big wig whose daughter was raped and killed by a Rape-U-gee and asked that donations in her name GO TO A RAPE-U-GEE CAMP!!!
Lord…You must be right. I can see that’s why they’ve tried to eliminate children’s innate fight/flight reaction to threatening looking people..the drag freaks in the scariest makeup and costumes . Normal reaction is get away or get away from me…the psych game is to make people embrace it.
Good comment, I never thought of that. The drag freak costumes also make very good camouflage for terrorists. No one would take them seriously until too late.
One would think that your typical religious terrorist would not want to go to their eternal reward dressed in such attire but then again maybe they wouldn’t mind. I mean its not like they hold a wake for the dearly departed.
If they are Muslim, whatever sins they have Including being drenched in pigfat, are forbidden if they die in jihad. In fact, they believe they go to paradise immediately rather than having to wait until judgment day–when most people will be judged by their deeds. (You don’t get an automatic pass just for being a Muslim.) So if all of this were true, the only Muslims in paradise as of right now are people killed in jihad. All other dead Mulsims are in a state where they are waiting to find out if they will go to paradise.
Given this, a lot of true believers want to be killed while fighting infidels. Hence suicide bombings, attacks, etc.
forbidden = forgiven?
Probably since they’re both F words …
Yes. Good catch.
My point was that I thought they might think twice about going to Paradise dressed like a drag queen.
I doubt they’d care…as long as they got a guarantee to go to paradise.
Smiley, I wrote an article in response to this comment. It will post tomorrow.
Looking forward to it.
Actually, the thought I had scared me but I think it explains a lot of what we are seeing.
I am hoping others will flesh out the ‘Story’ with a lot more information.
This related to the above:
GOOD!
I do not blame her for telling the FIB to go POUND SAND. They have earned NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT from the average American who is not completely asleep.
Stories of training camps in Mexico (Muslim or Chinese) is NOT NEW BTW.
I should add an old story this Lady is most likely aware of. It was under OH!Bummer.
Legalized Civilian Militia Groups the Answer to Arizona’s Border Security Problems?
AND: U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols
So there is every reason to NOT trust the US government.
… earned NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT from the average American…
FIB, DOJ, ATF, HLS, IRS, FDA, CDC, HHS…
Can’t think of any part of the USG I trust OR do NOT hold in contempt.
So true.
Great messaging.
Everyone in the JB fraudministration who has anything to do with the border should have been impeached a long time ago. This is dereliction of duty.
A la Mayorkas. I have often thought he is a Cuban spy.
All the damage he’s caused and he’s an honored guest for agents lost in the border problems….why would they invite him ?
Mayorkas Invite to Honor Fallen Border Patrol Agents Sparks Outrage …
Oct 20, 2023DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was invited as a guest speaker to the 15th meeting. Annual Border Security Foundation Recognition Dinner held in Washington, DC on October 27th. The event is held specifically to commemorate and raise funds for fallen Border Patrol agents.
Ought to turn their backs on the asshole.
Voting Machine Company That ‘Flipped’ Votes in Pennsylvania Admits ‘Someone Programmed the Election’ — Slay News
WOW!! Just WOW!!
“The computer does not read the text that is printed out.” = We can MAKE you think your vote was not flipped!
The county obtained a court order Tuesday after the problem was discovered that allowed the machines to continue to be used. = We do not CARE if you KNOW THAT WE ARE COMMITING FRAUD AND THE COURTS DON’T EITHER!
omg
I do not think they realized just what they revealed in that statement.
THERE IS NO WAY IN HADES those machines are secure.
Their security comes from the fact they don’t have to worry if we know. The court system is on their side.
We the people are in a desperate position that they keep pushing us into.
IMO PDJT better have the receipts on the 2016, 20, 22, and this last election if we’re going to right this ship.
I sure as Heck hope so, AND I hope Jon Harold is correct about Devolution and the Military not being completely compromised.
PA has had a dem majority on our supreme court for a while. THAT supreme court allowed the sect of state to change voter rules and “define” them to HER advantage and the dem advantage and then dismiss any lawsuits brought afterwards.
it’s a disgusting abuse of power by partisan judges–and it’s everywhere now. they are embedded like cockroaches.
Thanks to SOROS!
read a story this morning that a lot of the ukraine funding (OUR TAXPAYERS’ MONEY) was being funneled to sore ass and he in turn funneled it back to dems
Citizen 817
November 10, 2023 12:28 am
@realDonaldTrump
5h
We have totally proven our innocence in the FAKE A.G. “case.” We have WON ON EVERY POINT, including the fact that their so-called “Star” witness is a complete FRAUD, who openly admitted in Court that he lied, and that the information he gave to the bloodthirsty and disgraceful Attorney General was not factual or true. HE MADE IT ALL UP! Then today, Judge Engoron admitted that his original decision on Fraud was incorrect when he said “I’M NOT HERE TO VALUE THESE PROPERTIES. I’M HERE TO DECIDE WHETHER THESE STATEMENTS OF FINANCIAL CONDITION WERE FRAUDULENT.” Well, the Fraud that he said I committed was based on the values that were set. That’s what the whole case is about! He and the Attorney General knowingly put down ridiculously LOW VALUES on assets, like Mar-a-Lago ($18.000.000) so that they could say my Financial Statement numbers were “INFLATED” when, in fact, they were NOT…..Therefore he should immediately REVERSE HIS WRONGFUL AND TOTALLY DISCREDITED SUMMARY JUDGEMENT DECISION.
Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Exactly! That’s why this story I broke today is so big. Why is
@PeteButtigieg
having secret meetings with Soros’s son
@AlexanderSoros
in Ukraine 8 days before the US Congressional budget deadline as it relates to US funding for Ukraine? Seems like all of the US aid that’s going to Ukraine is going straight to
@georgesoros
, who also happens to be the largest donor to the Democrat Party. Are
@AlexanderSoros
and
@PeteButtigieg
laundering US aid to Soros’s bank account ahead of the 2024 Presidential election? Why did Pete have a secret meeting with Soros and Zelensky in Ukraine as I reported today? Why is
@PeteButtigieg
meeting with the son of the Democrat Party’s largest donor while he’s on an official US trip as a Biden Admin official ahead of the 2024 election and the US Congressional budget deadline? This needs to be investigated
@GOPoversight
! Read my report here: https://loomered.com/2023/11/09/exc
You may want to add that to the Article I am dropping tomorrow. It fits right in.
Most likely is Buttplug is hot for Spawn of Satan. They’re using corruption as a cover story so SS can stay in the queer closet.
I think there is a lot more going on then that. Buttplug is TRANSPORTATION…
Steven Crowder
@scrowder
Let me keep this simple because the Left wants to intimidate whistleblowers in the future, to prevent more leaks like the #NashvilleManifesto. 1. No, NONE of the 7 officers allegedly put on administrative leave is our source. 2. No one was paid for the Nashville Manifesto. 3. Anyone who says differently is lying. Don’t be fooled, intimidated or frightened.
Surprised? Nah. Tennesseans know Nashville went leftist retard. It’s the left’s strategy to go to urban centers and destroy the fabric and culture. They can then manipulate and game the system.
https://revolver.news/2023/11/nashville-diversity-obsessed-black-police-chief-hid-trans-shooter-anti-white-manifesto/
Most likely he hid it on orders from FIB
So here we have sat knowing this happened, the judiciary knew it happened, the DOInjustice and FIB knew it happened – yet – they continue to remain disingenuous and pretend it did not happen.
Would be nice if some super patriotic military or other branch of the government with authority had enough integrity to do the right thing. This one has even been in the legal system for three years. For some reason Lester and Norah never report on it.
Not holding my breath that truth will win out.
https://beckernews.com/trouble-in-fulton-county-high-powered-defense-attorneys-move-to-withdraw-amid-questions-about-2020-ballots/
The Evidence Gone Missing? and the County’s lawyers withdraw?
Was someone CAUGHT WITH THEIR HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR???
Wouldn’t it be lovely if there was video and witnesses to the theft and destruction of those ballots.
POTUS Trump did let slip they HAVE the evidence.
Would absolutely be one of the best videos ever. It is way past time to take those a-holes down.
WITH a lot of witnesses ESP the guy PAID to do it!
i haven’t vetted the video…but the info is…interesting
Truth Justice ™
@SpartaJustice
THE COUP DE’TAT OF AMERICA: Italian Intelligence along with U.S. sworn testimony confirms the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election was stolen from President Trump. Satellites being controlled from Italy added votes to Biden to defeat Trump. Joe Biden is not the lawful U.S. President. Leonardo Aerospace, Defense and Security along with a U.S. State Department employee, the CIA, Italian Citizens and a Dominion Employee were all involved in the fraudulent stealing of the U.S. 2020 Presidential Election. Joe Biden, once installed as the unlawful President of the United States, orders Mateo Renzi the Former Prime Minister of Italy to take down the current Prime Minister of Italy Guiseppe Conte. This is done by paying off Conte with millions of dollars in cash to keep him quiet. U.S. Federal Prosecutor John Durham has in his possession documents of evidence that shows Barack Obama illegally moved $400 Million dollars in cash on pallets through the Dubai Embassy with the help of the Italians. They stole $400 Million dollars from America and put the money into a Merrill Lynch account in Geneva Switzerland. Those involved in these atrocious crimes have murdered five Italian government officials in March alone to cover up their crimes. We cannot let them get away with stealing the Presidency of America and murdering innocent people. We must fight for justice and restore the rightful President of the United States.
Some of this was presented before.
To see the comments:
https://nitter.net/SpartaJustice/status/1722418214460625286#m
This is one of interest
And another:
This has another video:
https://nitter.net/boohissyfit2/status/1722449987227853228#m
The same on Twatter:
thanks Gail!
You are very welcome.