Q to the Power of Z

One of THE most critical ideas that I have seen from Q is the linker-explainer-scaler that puts absolutely EVERYTHING into perspective.  That idea is ONE CRUMB in Q Post 2604.


[Avoided Z]


Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 432368 No.4279257
Dec 12 2018 17:52:23 (EST)
>>4278980

FALSE.
HUBER will bring SEVERE PAIN TO DC.
SESSIONS‘ forced release of name [HUBER] to House created another variable.
Use Logic.
Why would we tell you the plan if in doing so also alerts those who we are actively engaged in HUNTING?
You are witnessing, first-hand, the demise of those in power [OLD GUARD].
Those who push simply have no grasp of reality.
Those who push simply do not understand warfare tactics.
Emotions cloud judgement.
Emotions cloud logic.
You have more than you know.
Securing the SENATE meant EVERYTHING.
Securing the SC meant EVERYTHING.
[Avoided Z]
We, the PEOPLE.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
TOGETHER WE WIN!
Do you think all these attacks on ‘Q’ (We, the People) is simply for a person on the internet who they label as a conspiracy?
Think for yourself.
Trust yourself.
Research for yourself.
Be in control of yourself.
NEVER let someone else DRIVE YOU.
Those who try to DRIVE YOU are not your friend.
Q

Q Post 2604

I had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what this meant.  So I put the question to the whole bunch at the Q tree HERE:

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/12/13/dear-maga-open-topic-20181213/comment-page-1/#comment-22565

wolfmoon1776
December 13, 2018 at 11:59 am E
I need help, people! I have ONE Q CRUMB that I cannot decipher!
And I quote:
Securing the SENATE meant EVERYTHING.
Securing the SC meant EVERYTHING.
[Avoided Z]

What is “Z”?

Wolf Moon, 12/13/2018

Well, thank goodness Tonawanda joined us, because HE had the answer (bigger type below):

Tonawanda
December 13, 2018 at 12:50 pm E
Totally winging it here. My first thought was the movie Z.
Z was a single letter used by political protesters as a rallying cry. “Z” meant “he lives.”
It is a highly political movie told from a 1969 era leftist pov (wow, I watched this movie almost 50 years ago!).
Z has to do with the military takeover of the Greek government, and it portrays “the colonels” in a bad light. Among other things, the military government tried to suppress use of the single letter “Z”.
Probably not what was meant, but I’d like to see the movie again.

Tonawanda, 12/13/2018

In an instant, as this idea put everything together in my mind, I KNEW that both Tonawanda and Q were right.  I knew that TRUMP was right.  FLYNN was right.  And ROGERS was right.

This MOVIE SCENARIO METAPHOR explained everything.

To avoid the actual physical nightmare of a military coup, otherwise needed to STOP an insidious take-over of the United States by a global leftist conspiracy, a last-chance civilian solution was chosen.  The bottom line was the desire to AVOID an actual military solution in a military space.

The movie Z, directed by the notorious red-diaper fellow traveler if not outright communist Costa-Gavras, truly shows the RISKS of a military coup in terms of leftist propaganda.  It also fully demonstrates the historical context of the current fight, by showing the long-term nature of the conflict.  This is the SAME problem, fifty years later, in a 100 year plot.

This knowledge solves every question about Q.  What we see – in a single letter – is what Q has been telling us all along, but which also explains MANY things outside of what Q or even the movement has talked about.

Let me put this another way.  I know things that have not been mentioned or revealed.  This explains them.  So I don’t care if others believe or don’t believe what I now believe about Q and the people behind him.  I can see very clearly what I believe is going on.

WAR GAMING OF POLITICS TO RECOVER AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE.

Now – this is even more huge.  This is speculation, but I think this is the proper way to read Q.

I believe that our military, at some point, CORRECTLY deduced that FOREIGN MILITARIES had war-gamed the subversive political takeover of the United States.  The result of this was – with decreasingly intermittent character – a gradual but very purposeful and systematic takeover of the United States government by the global left.  It was neither natural nor stupid.  It was SMART and clearly MILITARY.  And NOT our military.

This idea of foreign military attack on our political system is totally in line with Chinese geopolitical military doctrine, which blends the military, economic and political seamlessly.  And even more mind-boggling – now that I understand the TRUE nature of the Vietnam war – as an attack upon AMERICA – I understand that what we are seeing is totally in line with SECRET Russian geopolitical military doctrine.  “Formerly” Soviet.

And it gets worse.  Once you understand how much and how LONG psychological warfare against the United States has gone on here, THEN you will understand how poorly Americans understand their real situation.  You will understand that the long-term deception by the FAKE NEWS goes to a whole new level of ugliness.

So – here we are – in the middle of a soft coup by the Orwellian left, which was stopped by a TRUE resistance of patriots.

Get used to the flipping of terms, with the soft-coup plotters calling THEMSELVES “the Resistance”.  It’s the only way to deal with the Orwellian left.

************************

It is very difficult to convey the TOTALITY of the problem and solution in a single post.  However, I would like to help people.

The following article published by Dr. Michael Salla on WordPress does a PHENOMENAL JOB explaining what is going on.  You will find yourself nodding along.  And remember – this guy wrote this article back in April of 2018.

https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/125059571/posts/8648

Dr. Salla is not the only person who saw this whole picture, but he certainly saw it clearly and articulated it well.

Take a look here to see an example of people suddenly getting wise NOW.

Yes – it does take a while for people to catch on to what Q has been saying all along.  Even with the Bill Cooper leaks ringing in my ears – a strong preview of what we are seeing right now – it is still almost unbelievable.

Now, before I leave you to ponder all this, I want to help show you WHY this was necessary.

There was something I noticed, years ago, which is explained beautifully by all this.


One of the most fundamental ideas I was struck with during the Obama presidency was the weird and almost MILITARY precision of the Democrats under Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama. They moved in lockstep formation.  Many Democrats would GIVE UP long-standing prior positions and vote in hypocritical ways which benefited Obama, and NOT the people in their districts or states. 

Interestingly, these Democrats often acted like they had knives or guns to their backs.

When Obama would invite the Republican leadership to the White House to “talk” or “discuss”, I noticed that nothing good EVER happened from it.  Republicans would put things on the table, and Obama would say and do nothing.  Afterwards, the situation would just get worse.

It was then that I realized Obama was STUDYING the Republicans.  He was not there to work with them.  It was a LIE.  It was a deception.  Obama was looking for WEAKNESSES to EXPLOIT.  Valerie Jarrett was studying them, too.  It was COLD and CALCULATING.

There is a reason they call them militants, people.  They oppose us with military resolve.

I had wondered where the sheer STRATEGY of the Obama administration came from. The idea of putting Eric Holder in as AG – so he would NEVER raise a hand against Obama – it was BRILLIANT.  The idea of Harry Reid – he of the Black Eye of Failure – locking up the Senate into a one-way street of progressivism benefiting China – otherwise gridlock and paralysis – that was CUNNING.  All of it seemed very PLANNED.  Not quickly, either.  It seemed very LONG-PLANNED.

Notice also that Obama’s most essential people were LOYAL BY RACE.  More than that, his cabinet was filled with Red Diapers and other types of very suspicious characters.   Some of the less obviously sketchy people like Chuck Hagel seemed psychologically intimidated, if not actually controlled.

There was a letter from Citibank (I believe) in late 2008, which appeared to recommend all the people who actually ended up in the Obama cabinet.   I believe this was a ruse – a literal “cover” letter.  I believe that the planning of Obama’s government actually took place in Russia or China – possibly both, using every aspect of their intelligence agencies and militaries that could be brought to bear on the problems.  There may have been “KGB-CIA” assistance as well, but the massive super-computational and strategic solution of such problems would have been much more safely performed overseas, where it could take advantage of overseas data and open discussion of the problems.

In fact, I think this external planning to “assist” Democrat administrations has gone on for quite some time to support the harder left wing of the party.  Most in the party are surely unaware of this odd form of “foreign aid”.  However, some at the top (hidden) communists MUST know about it. 

Barack Obama and Valerie Jarrett – whose strategic moves absolutely STUNK of military discipline – clearly knew who was “safe” for their purposes and who was not.  The elimination and containment of political opposition was too rigorous – too effective – to have been the simple work of Jarrett’s intuition.

Q has in fact addressed Jarrett’s role of “sniffing out” and firing “patriots” in the 16-year plan.  However, this is simply not enough to explain what we observed – the systematic elimination of “America First” elements from American government at all levels.  Only foreign powers and treasonous elements of CIA/FBI could have given Obama’s people this information with as much unerring reliability as we observed.

Knowing all of this, the Tom Fife revelations – so purposefully suppressed by our own leftists in media and social media – seem to fit right in. 

The odd long-range PLANNING around Barack Obama now makes sense.  Obama himself would have been a KEY military component – a computational and logistical as well as political bullet – fired into the very heart of America with DECADES of planning.  His strange and rapid rise, no accident at all.

Finally, the opposition to Candidate and President Trump is made even more clear by this idea.  It is absolutely certain that Donald Trump would have been a nightmare scenario in SOMEBODY’S calculations.  His election would have been an event that could set back decades of “progress” in transforming America.  Is it any wonder now that “entertainment” hosts INVARIABLY wanted to know if Donald Trump was running for President?

Even now, calculations are “adapting” to the reality of President Trump – and looking for ways to eliminate him in 2020.  Those plans cannot proceed without boots on the ground in America helping to carry them out.

I know this all sounds fantastic, but think about how much of the Obama administration was utterly unprecedented.  How could all of this CRAP have been FORCED on us WITHOUT foreign help?


So you see, we have a lot to think about.  But I will say this.  In my opinion, everything that has been done up until now, and everything that seems to be coming, to bring this treasonous crap down, is completely justified.

And if cold anger doesn’t work, there are alternatives.

W

Yeah.  There’s a storm.  And that’s a good thing.



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Sylvia Avery

I believe you. I’ve only read this through once and there are pieces I don’t get and some that I doubt and it will all require a lot more thought and study. But I believe you. Heck, I was already most of the way there, anyway, with Q.
Your piece about the military precision of the BO years, the locking up of absolutely implacable partners in crime to shore him up at DOJ and Harry Reid (Harry Reid!!! THAT explains Harry Reid) in the Senate…well, I read that and I’m sure I could hear pieces go click click click in my brain.
I should be horrified and depressed. Instead, I think I am kind of relieved. It is better to know what we are fighting against or at least see some of the shape and form of the enemy that just a vapor.

Sylvia Avery

And thank heavens for Tonawanda. When I read his post, even though I’ve never seen the movie Z, it just felt true, you know? He instinctively pulled that out of the ether, something he had seen years ago, that just seemed to fit. Sometimes I think we know truth by instinct as much as anything else. We can recognize it, at least sometimes, even if we don’t understand it or have proven it is accurate.

JasonD

Sylvia, in my experience, what Tonawanda did, with his recollection of a movie he saw almost 50 yrs ago, was most probably inspired by the Holy Spirit (also called the Helper).
Those notions that pop into existence in one’s conscious brain are very often divinely inspired – this happens through that right brain hemisphere that I was talking about. People sometimes also refer to these occurrences as messages from angels.
JMO.

Sylvia Avery

Jason, I think you are probably correct.
There are lots of explanations people could come up with but there is a spiritual component to this battle that I think anyone whose own spirituality is awake to any degree can sense that.
BOs election and reign were so deeply disturbing. I can remember my dad and I looking at each other one evening after watching BO on the tube and Dad said kind of nervously (like I would tell him he was nuts or something) “I’m afraid he might be the anti Christ.” And I had just been thinking the same thing and telling myself I was an alarmist fool, but it was just such a strong sense.
Anyway, I prayed so hard during the campaign season. I felt like God kept telling me Trump was His guy and it just was so unlikely and bizarre to me that I had trouble accepting it for some time.
But I am so sure that PDJT was selected by God for this time and place, for this fight. I just absolutely know it.
And so yeah, I think you are right. The Holy Spirit.

JasonD

Thanks for sharing your experience Sylvia. As I posted back over there – we are living in archetypal times, and the forces of light and darkness are clearly engaged in this titanic struggle.
Many people sense this – hence the high levels of involvement on both sides. They may not fully understand what is in play – but they “know” it is big and consequential.
And I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit is more active than usual at times like these – I have had personal experiences that lead me to this certainty. It is during these times that Gd’s people are “open” to the Spirit.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yes. We are fighting against forces both seen and unseen. And the unseen ones are immensely powerful, but GOD, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit, and HIS Angels, are infinitely MORE POWERFUL.

Ephesians 6:10-18
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

NebraskaFilly

Haven’t read the remaining comments but I just have to jump in to say I had the exact same experience, altho my epiphany came after reading O.B.A.M.A.’s books. I was initially pleased to think we had finally gotten over the “racist” hump. After reading them, I then turned to my daughter and said the very same thing: “I think he may be THE anti-Christ.”

Anonymoushorse

Not THE Antichrist, too low level a talent. But certainly an Antichrist.

NYGuy54

Nice thought but if you know Tona, you realize he is a bright guy. He uses cultural things. I don’t do that. I am more of a connect the dots in my universe guy. But we all bring our unique skills together and begin to form the core of a new USA. Or maybe it’s the old USA. It’s for Gen Z not us.

redlegleader68

Gotta just love the up and coming patriots being called Generation “Z” 😉

NYGuy54

yep…

singularZoe

Have to say for anyone concerned, every time I see “Revelations”, I cringe. It’s The Revelation, though, of course, it appears to have many parts, but it was one Revelation given to the apostle John on the isle of t

singularZoe

On the Isle of Patmos. Lol.

judyw

Absolutely, Jason and it is actually a fun process when you ask impossible questions you have sought and found no answers for i.e., most recently for me a check I remembered coming in the mail that I found but before “I asked”, I couldn’t find anywhere when I wanted to deposit it….
And, here just as WM did with his question to the readers! And, I’d be willing to bet Tonawanda reads here as many of us do…not every single post but just as many as time allows and certainly not every single day though we’d like to be able to, but he saw this question and we will all benefit from and share his answer and the brilliant commentary WM adds to it today! 🙂

JasonD

Yes Judy, it never ceases to be a source of wonderment. 🙂
Seek and you will find ….

judyw

& Ask, and it shall be given you 🙂

Plain Jane

Absolutely. In one of my former lives (That’s how I refer to my past major decades long endeavors, no, I do not believe in reincarnation.), I and my team saw over and over again how, when we were prayerful and dependent on Him, the Holy Spirit inspired. Always though, when plans went awry, He just took over, knocked things totally out of our control, and brought outcomes to perfection.

JasonD

Yes Jane – this has been my experience to a “T”. When things go awry, one’s egoic walls are down and you are ready to admit your lack of control – that is when the magic happens.
The least of you will be first ….

Plain Jane

Amen. I‘Ve been “conditioned” to this, and try to just smile and wonder how God’s going to make everything come out fine.

Emeraldstar

“It’s a RELIEF.”
It sure is.
I remember a similar situation – a Eureka! moment – from a decade or so ago. It was about a person whose words and actions – over quite a period of time – I just couldn’t make sense of.
One day, it hit me: a very simple key to their behavior. I had to reshuffle ALL the experiences and memories I had of this person, and put them in the context of this new insight / key.
It was amazing. Suddenly, everything made sense. My uncertainty was gone. What a relief, indeed, to finally have the answer. And, having that answer, I was then able to accurately deal with the problem / person.
The first step toward a solution is always identifying the problem. We’ve all seen boatloads of symptoms, but until now, the diagnosis of the illness hadn’t been right enough.
NOW, we’ve swallowed the REAL red-pill.
Thanks Wolf – great post.

Sylvia Avery

As was yours, Emeraldstar. You put Wolf’s article into a context probably most of us can understand or relate to. We have indeed seen the symptoms. Now the diagnosis. Now we know what we are fighting. But what a big, honking red pill that was.

Emeraldstar

Thanks Sylvia.
“But what a big, honking red pill that was.”
I left out how much pain that sudden realization caused me. One part of getting smart … is realizing how stupid one has been.
Luckily for me, though, about three weeks later, I had another Eureka! moment – completely unrelated – which was amazingly GOOD. I say “unrelated”, but perhaps it wasn’t completely unrelated. Reshuffling for understanding the first time, likely set me up well for reshuffling the second time.
Let us hope that America will have a second red-pill as well, and that it also will be as good (or better!) as the first one was “bad”.

NYGuy54

It’s more valuable than even Wolf knows.And he wrote the damn thing. This is the battle for our country…right here and now. I’ve always believed that God sent us Donald Trump. A totally flawed man that knows how to win. But he doesn’t just win, he humiliates our enemies. Makes them swallow really hard. I’m old but I would fight for him.

Emeraldstar

“I would fight for him.”
We ARE fighting for him – right now. It’s as much an information war as any other type.
And he IS fighting for us, too.
We’ll win.

NYGuy54

Now I believe we will. The Q plan is working

Sylvia Avery

Yes. We are at war, we are fighting. We haven’t been required to take our muskets and powder horns and go march (at least not yet) but we are at war just the same.
And the information part of this war is key.
I confess, I don’t see how we win it. I have faith, but gosh I get overwhelmed by how big a challenge the info war is.

singularZoe

Sylvia, I feel the same, and if we win, it will be by the mercy of the Lord.

singularZoe

And all this time I was under the mistaken impression that the power of Z was Zoe. I am so very disappointed.
NOT.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

But there’s only one of you, so it’s just as well.

singularZoe

Steve, tempted to say, don’t be so sure, but instead I’ll just say, “and good thing, too.”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, I might beg to differ on that–maybe another one of you would be a good thing.

Plain Jane

To the power of 1.

singularZoe

Lol.

NUTHA-VYOO

Your ideas ring true.

NUTHA-VYOO

… and, yes, you cannot unsee it.

redlegleader68

And why it takes so long, as Q repeatedly mentioned.
TRUST THE PLAN …

PeteC

I have always reasoned that in order for true patriots to take back this country from leftist scum, we would have to have the US military on our side (aware and ready).
Obama forced out so many high ranking brass from the military who would not “in writing” agree to their plan, and abide by their scheme.
PDJT then surrounds himself with former uncompromised military folks. Was DT recruited by these military patriots to start righting the ship? Always thought one aspect was to keep him from being assassinated having them covering his 6, but now I see more clearly that the alliance is structured to try and save the country from the corrupt and evil Luciferian leftists and their global plans!!! Amen, and amen!!!!!

Sylvia Avery

Sure there’s a lot of speculation. But the pieces to the puzzle really do fit. How on earth could a bunch of dope smoking layabouts like BO and his buddies put together such a wide ranging, deliberate, effective plan? The guy was so clearly a figure head, the ultimate empty suit. There’s no way he and his men at war could come up with something so very thorough.
It smells of military planning. Foreign military planning. And quite ably executed up to this point.

NYGuy54

Traitors walk among us.

redlegleader68

…believe it was once said, “…the people you trust the most… “

singularZoe

Agree, NYGGuy. Everyone needs to be vigilant.

Tonawanda

The thing which always struck me about BO was his mediocrity, especially his mediocre intelligence. The most outstanding aspect of BO, so to speak, was the crease in his pants.
He always struck me as the ultimate layabout, and yet his “transformation” of America was itself very energetically implemented.
As a red diaper baby himself, BO was used to having The Collective doing his thinking and planning for him. That he was successfully foisted upon us based on his race alone and with ZERO public “mainstream” inquiry into his sordid life, implied that he was merely an agent, and because of his mediocre intellect he was a perfect agent.
The eye-opening insight in W’s post for me was his observation about the Democrat Party itself. Selling their souls (or putting themselves in a position to be coerced) is despicable enough, but they sold out our America for a dacha in Martha’s Vineyard.
God was bargained with by Abraham to prevent the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, but “ten righteous men” could not be found. In America, apparently, there were sufficient righteous Americans, including some of the real CIA (Christians in America), for Trump to be called upon in the most unimaginable and yet actual circumstances to give us another chance.
Near the beginning of “The Republic” Socrates asks an old man, Cephelas, about being old. The old man’s reply is worth reading in it’s entirety, but one thing he says is so true: “Hope … cherishes the soul of him who lives in justice and holiness and is the nurse of his age and the companion of his journey; hope which is mightiest to sway the restless soul of man.”
Hope is a gift from the Holy Spirit, which the Holy Spirit helps us to understand and “use.”
We now have hope offered to us, if we are willing to accept it.

redlegleader68

And the word, HOPE, being such a very strong affirmation, was very clearly used [hijacked] by BHO (remember his campaign slogan) in the beginning of his “campaign” (and I’m not talking about running for office!!)

Tonawanda

As usual, BO intended the opposite of what he said. BO brought despair and demoralization after hijacking “hope.”

singularZoe

I caught Obama in a lie every time he spoke. HHe disgusted me.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

remember his campaign slogan

Rope and chains.
People misheard it.

singularZoe

Words mean things. always ask, what precisely do you mean by that? And if people had researched who Obama really was and what he had done, not just what he said of himself, he never would have become president. Humans are very gullible.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A certain third party calls itself “The Party of Principle.” I always hated that as branding, because it’s very important to know WHAT principle is being touted.
Communists are principled, too, according to the tenets of Communism, as are Muslims according to Islam, et endless cetera.
What is not said is as important as what is said, and one must try not to fill the gaps with one’s own wishful thinking.

judyw

Tonawanda, first let me THANK YOU for sharing your insight which has led to much clarity for many of us!
Your comment here about the crease in Obama’s pants reminded me of the “empty suit” I saw him as and then of Clint Eastwood’s brilliant “Empty Chair” speech/performance at the 2012 RNC Convention that he did iwhile addressing an “invisible” President Barack Obama sitting in an empty chair. Eastwood stirred the party base as he said he cried when Obama was elected and cried even harder years later when millions were out of work.
The short and longer videos are in article in this link:
https://www.cnn.com/2012/08/31/politics/eastwood-speech/index.html

Tonawanda

Yay! Oh yes!

judyw

“President Trump knows what really matters. Political strategies come and go. We come and go. God remains.” We have all witnessed Trump’s ability evolve and grow to articulate this in spoken and written words.
I so remember this clip below with the “gottcha question” and knew that it would be taken out of context. It was, but we can all appreciate that Trump is much more comfortable speaking about and responding to questions about spiritual/faith topics today which helps most people identify with who he is even more..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=336lpsPLpwo

PeteC

But “hope” must be fulfilled with “action”— Abraham believed God, and put that belief into action by his willingness to sacrifice his son, Isaac! (Cf. Gen. 22:1-19). “And Abraham called the name of the place (where he was prepared to sacrifice Isaac), The-Lord-Will-Provide…” (v. 14).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That’s a half dollar that has seen some mileage! But then in the last 70 (or maybe as much as 100, depending on the date) years, it would have!

PeteC

Well put TW!!!

Gil

What a memorable description. Mr gil and i were talking about this just this week. Akeays the empty chaur. Thanks Clint!

Gil

Always the empty chair…dang phone..

judyw

And WM, that’s why we love you and love spending time here so much! 🙂

wheatietoo

War?
Oh yeah, the O-team definitely waged war…on their own country!
They went in like assault teams, in all the agencies.
They hit us simultaneously on all fronts.
I wouldn’t call it “brilliant” though…more like ‘brilliantly Diabolical’.
👿 👿 👿
Hussein would even slip up sometimes and talk about us like were the enemy.
And he talked about our real enemies like they were his friends.
And the war is still going on.
They’re trying to Take Down Our Comms with Censorship:
https://twitter.com/CraigRSawyer/status/1074120175190913025
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wheatietoo

I’ve been hearing the phrase “Town Square” being used to describe social media, lately.
That’s an interesting concept.
A ‘town square’ is open to the public…it’s created by the private sector, but it is open…to the public.
These social media platforms have been serving as…town squares.
They may be owned by private companies, but they have opened them up to the public.
They have encouraged the public to use them as…town squares.
I am hoping that this line of thinking will allow for Anti-Censorship Regulation.
If these social media companies may decide to ‘go private’ in order to escape such regulation, then so be it.
It will be their downfall.

Elizabeth Carter

Q says their board and 8 chan will be open and we will have to use it during the black out, if there is one.

para59r

Use the term ‘town square’ as often as possible on other sites, I do. It encourages others to do the same when engaged in these discussions. It really does put things into perspective when fighting censorship by those that hide behind the fact that they are a private enterprise. It’s one thing for small enterprise to censor, it’s another thing entirely when it’s a large group and they exclude opinions especially when they wish to force their views on all, use your tax dollars on their folly’s, and curtail freedoms given to us in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Sylvia Avery

You are so right, Wheatie. What they did to each agency, filling them to the rafters with Leftists and then weaponizing them against our own country was, to use Wolf’s language, done with military precision. These are like occupied territory now. No wonder they are resisting STILL after two years

Sylvia Avery

It really does. It is so far past any sort of pique or disappointment or getting swept away with the romance of fighting like you’re battling the Spanish Civil War or the French Resistance in WW2, or the Children of Hogwarts vs. Voldemort or however you choose to view it.
If that’s all it was, it would be over and done. This? Two years later and Ryan Zinke is so embattled as Sec of the Interior he can’t afford the legal bills? No, this is carefully organized.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm. And yet Uncle Vlad is the one who wants to give the Soroses an “all-expense-paid” holiday in “Vlad’s snow, ice-sport, and boulder-splitting spa”…
How convenient for the deep state. Return Satan Soros to his “home base”… OK, earthly home base. I rather expect his REAL home base is substantially warmer. As in EXTREME local warming… instant charred marshmallows…

NUTHA-VYOO

“Hussein would even slip up sometimes and talk about us like WE were the enemy.”
I remember praying the day he won hoping he would do “right” for us.
However, I knew he was FO$ and it was all for naught at the point of the “beer summit.”
His overuse of the term “folks” when his condescension showed itself while criticizing opponents/gun toters/ bible thumpers et al.
Most notable was his exclusive use (and that of EVERYONE in the administration) of the term ISIL. Levant.
Absolutely everyone else was using the term ISIS until HE was ‘on the scene.’ I remember one of his “slip ups’
though in a nearly one hour speech/conference with a Q & A followup when he was wearing the infamous TAN SUIT.
During the Q & A he, himself, used the term ISIS twice in succession when he was thrown off guard by a reporters question. I used to have the link to that Utoob video but can no longer find it for 2-3 years now. Probably scrubbed by the ministry of truth. It always seemed his use of ISIL was a manifestation of arrogance toward the unwashed folks who needed to get-with-HIS-program.
Thank the lord for our VSG and all true patriots HERE and everywhere!

wheatietoo

Thanks, Nutha-Vyoo.
I remember it gave me chills when Hussein said…”We are five days away from fundamentally changing the United States of America.”
That’s not something that a leader says about a country that he loves.
That is something that the leader of a hostile invasion force says!
And the idiots cheered when he said that!
Then at his inauguration, he draped himself in all things Abraham Lincoln.
I knew that his/their plan was to Enslave Us.
I had already noticed that one of his ‘tells’ was speaking in opposites.
Whatever he said he wasn’t going to do…meant that was exactly what he was going to do.
And vice versa.
Lincoln freed the slaves…so BHO draped himself in Lincoln to cloak his plan to enslave us.
And yeah, I noticed how he and his crew liked to use the term ISIL…instead of ISIS or IS.
Very telling.
That is exactly what the IS *demanded* that they be called, because it validated their claim to the Levant.
I hope I live to see him completely exposed.
His sealed records…who paid for his college…the fact that he’s a closet rug-sniffer, all of it.

rayzorbak

I remember Bill Clinton saying something about: “Is Is”?
This coup thing really has been going on for a LONG time.
My first clue: Twin Towers falling in on themselves…..
When I saw that, I said to myself “Bullshit!!!!)”
Then Building 7 came down….
and it was not even hit by a “plane”?
My eyes were opened at that point.

PeteC

Second that motion, Rayzor!!!

NUTHA-VYOO

“I hope I live to see him completely exposed.”
Preaching to the choir.

NebraskaFilly

His use of ISIL was indication of his stance against Israel.

NUTHA-VYOO

Good lord how he hated Netanyahu.

Sylvia Avery

This was the first time I had read Dr. Salla’s blog post that you linked in, Wolf. I didn’t start following Q, although I was aware of Q, until maybe last spring, so I missed this point:
“According to a November 2, 2017 post by QAnon, if Hillary Clinton had won the election or results were overturned in her favor, a military coup would indeed have occurred given her level of corruption:
If Trump failed, if we failed, and HRC assumed control, we as Patriots were prepared to do the unthinkable (this was leaked internally and kept the delegate recount scam and BO from declaring fraud).”
******************
This explained some things I had long wondered. Why/how did BO leave office? I never thought he would. Ever. Right up till the last minute I thought he would stay and the media would swoon and cheer him on. And all of the childish schemes like the electoral votes and recounts…I kept thinking it was a sham, no one but a fool would be taken in by this but I thought for sure it was developing cover stories for when they nullified the election.
NOW I see why that didn’t happen, per Q. They leaked internally that they were going to take over if they messed with the election results. That makes sense to me. They figured it was merely a momentary set back, that they could handle the Orange Buffoon and what was it Chuck Schumer said? Mess him up six ways from Sunday? They thought they would have this all handled, tied up with a bow, by now. Oh my.

Sylvia Avery

You know, I saw this video after the election. And I laughed at the idiot, and I gloated, and I jeered. And then I moved on and forgot it.
Watching it again, just now, without the glee and relief of having just won the election and with a more thoughtful and sober judgment, it is really jarring to watch this guy. They lost an election. He acts like someone who has experienced a major trauma like a family death or learning he has a terminal illness or something.
His reaction is out of proportion. Unless of course you apply new filters to what you are looking at. Now it begins to make some sense.

NYGuy54

Well he knows the jig is up. They are facing an opponent stronger than them. When the air of invincibilty disappears, the weak dispair and thrash out even though they know it won’t change anything.

NYGuy54

sic despair

Sylvia Avery

It sure does. Very, very revealing.

NUTHA-VYOO

Ben Rhode: the NOVELIST, creator of “echo chambers” in a brain torrent of evil in which he participated.

Deplorable Patriot

I’ve seen the whole election night thing often enough now to really think there is something to it. But they couldn’t make it obvious and We the People had been conditioned to swallow the “too close to call” words hook line and sinker.
Knowing this, and thinking back to election night, several states were probably in the mix, and Penn was the first one they tried.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I still think that all those electoral vote shenanigans in December ’16, with a huge number of “faithless electors,” were an attempt to put Colin Powell into office. It was clever, but fell far, far short. Still, they tried.
Here’s the scenario:
Deny Trump enough of the EVs he was entitled to, so that he doesn’t reach 270 (this is where they fell far short). The Electoral College requires a majority (not just a plurality) to win. The attempts to challenge states’ votes when Congress counted the vote were a second attempt to deny DJT a majority, and had one senator joined the protest…we could have had a VERY interesting January 2016.
Arrange it so that Colin Powell ends up in third place. He did get three votes; no one else (other than DJT and Klinton) got more than one.
The House of Representatives has to choose the next POTUS from the top three electoral vote getters. It votes by state delegation, i.e., California and Wyoming each get one vote.
There were certainly enough RINOs in the house who would have been desperate to vote for SOMEONE other than Trump or Klinton. Colin Powell would have represented a quite palatable alternative to them, and I suspect other Republicans and even a few Democrats, realizing their own candidates couldn’t get a majority, would have found Powell a bi-partisan “acceptable” candidate (particularly if he made statements about appointing a bi-partisan cabinet).
Of course they came nowhere close to denying Trump 270 votes, but I suspect this plan was there before election day in case of a much narrower EV win by Trump, who is now, of course President Trump.

thetinfoilhatsociety

Yes, I remember him saying something about he might just refuse to leave the WH.

singularZoe

I think I also heard Obama say he would be back very soon or something like that. It worried me.

Plain Jane

Your words, delegate count made me think of Manifort. If it were not for his work with the delegate votes, PT mayhave not been elected. Good deeds never go unpunished by the DS.

Sylvia Avery

Wolf writes:
“Yes – it does take a while for people to catch on to what Q has been saying all along. Even with the Bill Cooper leaks ringing in my ears – a strong preview of what we are seeing right now – it is still almost unbelievable.”
Wolf, who is Bill Cooper and what was he leaking?

Sylvia Avery

TY, Wolf, I appreciate it.

Sadie Slays

Read about Bill Cooper’s death. He was charged with tax evasion during the Clinton administration (reminder that the Obama IRS was used to persecute conservatives), then died in a shoot-out with law enforcement. Supposedly he was warning people about 9/11 back then when this happened. I mention this only because his death gives him more credibility than the other famous “conspiracy theorists” (disinfo agents) who still get comfy book and TV deals after all of these years.
His book, “Behold a Pale Horse,” is solid background reading for anyone new to the Q movement.

Brave and Free

Thanks W,
Oh how the plot thickens! I believe the Russians always said they would take us over without firing a shot.
Keep up the great work and I’ll keep up the prayers!

Sylvia Avery

Yeah, and apparently they weren’t kidding. 🙁

Mary Morse

Curious about this:
letter from Citibank (I believe) in late 2008
any chance this person was involved?
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/business/dealbook/sandy-weills-wine-country-retirement-with-notes-of-rue-and-chagrin.html

Mary Morse

Froman was brought to Citibank by Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin in 1999ish.
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/27/business/former-treasury-secretary-joins-leadership-triangle-at-citigroup.html

JasonD

Wolf – great post!! You nailed it, IMO.
A big tell for me is simply to look at what “they” accused DJT of. Collusion, exposed to “kompromat”/blackmail and bribery.
This projection by the Demo(N/C)Rats is the biggest tell – based on past experience. They had ALL sold out in one or more of these ways, and accused DJT of what they KNEW was occurring in the real world – THEY were “victims” of these very tactics.
This rings very true.

TheseTruths

My thoughts exactly re: projection.
I have long thought the battle was not so much Dem vs. Repub, but a spiritual one on the individual level. When you’re dealing with people who adhere to ungodly, amoral, unprincipled progressive and communistic ideals, that is a spiritual battle. (And I’m not saying we need a pastor for president!) They are fighting to take God and His created order of the universe out of society. But this article pulls it all together on the global scale and makes perfect sense.
And yes, regarding projection, they are accusing Pres. Trump of exactly what they have been doing. It’s so obvious now. I think Pres. Trump and some of his insiders have known this for a very long time.
The battle is much more serious than we have realized. Individuals are being groomed to be warriors on the other side. The Left is fighting to keep their treason and treachery hidden. Q is right: It is too much for people to take in all at once; many would not believe it, and many would not be able to handle it and would dismiss it out of hand. Prayers for our country and leaders, and for individuals to wake up.

rayzorbak

“many would not believe it, and many would not be able to handle it and would dismiss it out of hand.”
As they do/did with 9-11 and many other “conspiracy” theories/facts.

rayzorbak

Agree 100% Wolf……
I’m nearly weened from Faux Snooze……
Can’t take the lefty “guests” and the constant INTERUPTIONS of those that have valid commentary.

Plain Jane

We had Fox Business as an enticement promo for either 2 weeks or a month back in whozit’s first term. Between DH and me, we probably watched about 5-10 hours total. Never had a desire to turn it on. Didn’t miss it when the prromo was over. I had Rush, and some other good radio.

sobriquet3

#orderyouryellowvest

Sylvia Avery

I have hoped so long and so hard that it won’t come to this. Soldiering is for the young. But I’m going to have to quit refusing to look at it as a potential reality. If we are battling against a foreign military takeover cloaked as those crazy loveable homegrown Dims Di Fi, San Fran Nan, the Occasional Cortex et. al. it may very well go hot.
It kind of ties in with some of the mysteries in the foreign policy arena, like China and Russia muscling into South and Central America, the cyber warfare China has been waging against us, etc.

Plain Jane

Bummer, I gave mine away last year…neon yellow for when I was out street walking at night… hee, hee. (We don’t have sidewalks in our subdivision.

sobriquet3

I sincerely hope it doesn’t come to that but who would ever have thought the French would rise up as they have.

NYGuy54

I never saw this but the OIG recovered the 18K tweets that Mueller deleted. We are in for a rocky ride now
https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1073272299120459776

NYGuy54

19k…lol.

JasonD

Begs the question – how do you possibly achieve anything else if you are texting that much?

NYGuy54

They never thought they would lose

evereleutheros

If these messages were from December 2016 to May of 2017 and Page had 10,760 texts they found, that’s over 2000 messages a month or 70 a day for Page. Think about that. That is really crazy.

NYGuy54

it is…how do you do work when you are texting that much

Nor'easter

“Nothing is ever truly erased/deleted.”-Q

NYGuy54

I can’t wait until we see these tweets.

para59r

If Hannity gets them we could run the risk of being ‘tick-tock’ed to death. But yes this is encouraging, I’ve kept seeing small spots saying they have been recovered but nothing as conclusive as this.

NYGuy54

I hate tick tock…

Cuppa Covfefe

Yeah. I’m an AMD fan, too… I want a THREADRIPPER for Christmas…sigh…

Sylvia Avery

We have it all.
Q

redlegleader68

A bit more granular: We have the Server.
🙂
(there has to be a key, or keystone, somewhere, somehow. A rosetta stone, if you will. Between the “server” and ole Weiner’s laptop we have the key to IT ALL.)

JasonD

A musing re Gnl Flynn ….
He reportedly cut a deal to plead guilty to a non-crime in order to save his son from prosecution.
So he cannot petition the judge to set aside his guilty plea – that would presumably be outside the terms of his “deal”.
So someone from Mil-Intel / Q team simply informs the judge of the true state of play – Judge orders prosecution to produce ALL relevant evidence – and set aside the conviction. Voila, Gnl Flynn is exonerated and his son is free due to the Gnl honouring the plea deal ….
Not sure if this works in the real world, but that is how I would write the story … 🙂

Sylvia Avery

I have wondered if what you suggest is somehow what is going on under the surface.
I had naively thought if, for example, the judge sets aside the charges against Gen. Flynn that it would be such a level of shock and awe that it would bring this whole mess to light and destroy the coup.
Now, once again, I’m thinking I didn’t I had no clue how big the swamp is, how deep and wide, and organized and supported by or the brainchild of foreign military. If so, freeing General Flynn would be wonderful, but it might be just one of the opening battles of a long war.

JasonD

Yup, one senses that the war will be long, although some shock and awe (like mil tribunals in Gitmo) may hopefully send many of the rats scurrying for the cover ….
Then the mopping up ops can commence. One can dream ….

Sylvia Avery

LOL boy am I ready for some shock and awe!!! Especially the orange jumpsuit kind!

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

I doubt this. I have followed the Flynn deal closely. Judge Sullivan is the judge who overturned Mueller’s framing of Senator Ted Stevens, which I believe led to Stevens premature death. Recall that Mueller suborned perjury in that case in order to convict Stevens. Ever since then, Sulliavan has issued a standing order to every prosecutor who came before him that they must present to him and to the defense any material exculpatory information they have, and any information that they believe to be immaterial must be presented to him for his evaluation of materiality. The good judge has seen this before, and knows Mueller. He does not need anyone to let him in on what is happening.

judyw

And wasn’t Flynn’s guilty plea also a way to get “on record” what all of what he knew from the Obama administration that could not be put “on record” elsewhere?

NebraskaFilly

Yep – I am with you 100%, judyw! This WAS part of “the plan,” IMO.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Boom!

Elizabeth Carter

This is Holy Spirit guidance to me. I got up last night at 12:37. I could feel so much movement in the Spirit. I was all over the Internet looking for what was happening. I did not find anything special. I went on 8 chan at 2:25 and found this post about Z and how it all fits in to the movie and that we must study the Greek coups to understand what is happening. I have links I will share. I have not read the links from Wolfmoon’s article yet. I did read a lot of the 8 chan information and it makes perfect sense.
I have told you that I never cared anything about Donald Trump until he came down the escalator and said he would run for President. I have prayed unceasingly and am up for hours every night. Nothing else matters much at all to me anymore.
I made a post on the daily thread at 4:05 about the Page texts.
Recovery of Text Messages From Certain FBI Mobile Devices==
https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/archive/17553//i-2018-003523.pdf
I must have been reading all of the 8 chan info about Z, while Wolfmoon was writing this article. This was part of the 8 chan info
>>4318146
The people in the Fake news media really are HARDCORE, highly brainwashed revolutionary communists of the high-gear type. They have their heroes like we do. Communist, revolutionary heroes, (the bad guys who try to overthrow nations in Europe.)
The President, (then candidate) Trump, picking from a list of “Foreign Policy Advisors,” chose an inexperienced, 30-yr-old guy, who happens to have the same name as a Greek guy who horrifically tortured and killed a crapload of their greatest commie heroes!
No wonder he is Troller-in-Chief!
That Q is THAT close to the President totally blows my mind.
This also means that Q is a massively, well-planned-out operation since before Trump announced. That fact is much clearer to me now…
in summary, I believe this was a distinct possibility that Q team seriously considered since before 1992, especially after 9/11, and most certainly throughout the entire Obama Administration.
I believe that the possibility of double agents and/or corrupted personnel in powerful (military/intel) positions has kept them from ‘pulling the trigger’ on the plan.
The Trump ascendancy (coupled with today’s technologies) has given them the shot they needed to isolate some and weed out others who might pose a threat to the implementation of this plan when/if needed.
According to Q, the current path we are on will bring about the political changes needed to ‘Avoid Z.’
This must mean that they are fully prepared to use all legal and political tools at their disposal to totally DESTROY the left wing in America during the next couple years…
I highly recommend doing some research on the military coup in Greece, what was done in an attempt to “save Greece” at that time, as well as its aftermath and longterm consequences.
We can’t know the solemnity of Q’s proclamation here, if we don’t study up on the subject of “Z.”
Do yourself a favor, and look into this a little deeper.
Smart anons will love this deep dig, and Q has handed you the car keys to an amazing journey into the minds of those who approached Donald Trump in the first place, what they’ve been doing behind the scenes, and why.
(You have read the pic/graphic, and actually look up some of these links.
Trust me, you’ll be doing yourself a huge favor.)
Z (1969 film)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(1969_film)
We work in sync a lot here. That is the Holy Spirit guiding us. This is a war between Good and Evil. It is beyond our ability to win. We must play our part and it is important but this is at the level of Powers and Principalities and above our paygrade.
Trust God
Trust the Plan
Pray without ceasing
We are winning.

Sylvia Avery

Wow, Elizabeth. Thanks for telling us your experience. And all the info, too.

Anonymoushorse

Before Donald Trump announced as a candidate, I was vaguely aware of him. I knew that he was a hot shot New York developer, a playboy and big time self promoter. I knew of his television show but had never (and still have not) seen it as I had not watched tv for years. The only thought about Trump that I can recall having in those years was when he published The Art of the Deal. I wondered why he would be so foolish as to give away his secrets.
All this having been said, when he announced for the Presidency a thought/feeling occurred to me that the “hand of God is on Donald Trump”. This intuition remains with me now. I try to remember this when I become discouraged, especially so that I don’t let myself act out in frustration and end up, for instance, being banned from CTH.

Covadonga

For an introduction to Greek post-WWII history, and also to Greek customs, you can start by reading Nicholas Gage’s (that’s “Gage” with a ‘G’, no relation to a Hollywood actor of a similar name) Eleni, a heartbreaking account of what happened after his mother arranged for him to flee their northwestern Greek village when it was seized by Communists.
The movie of the same name, which could only have been made during the Reagan era, and which is closely based on the book, is also very good. Bring tissues, not popcorn.
The whole phenomenon of paidomazoma (stealing children) perpetrated by the Communists is the dark secret of the Greek Civil War. Eleni was my first introduction to that concept.
Paidomazoma, Pizzagate,… Come to think of it, it seems like you just can’t have Communists without having children being taken from their parents.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Yes. I often wondered how the D’s managed to maintain their discipline.
But the kicker for me was the election of Hussein. How does a man of no accomplishment and no substance become President of these United States? This made no sense to me. And then you see how various aspects of his background were hidden, from his birth to primary education records to Harvard to Jermiah Wright and so on. And then you add the obvious connections to the communists who infest Chicago and the conclusion becomes unthinkable. And you couldn’t talk about these things because it was clear that there were black militias all over the US ready to destroy our cities if you did.
Senator McCarthy was right. Now we see it.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

To add to this, allow me to quote from a 2015 speech by Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Jr. (Ret.), the former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet:
“And until you recognize that Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it. And as far as a strategy – let me just conclude one thing, as I just had in my latest op-ed — the Obama Administration has a strategy.”
“It’s very simple, any thinking American should be able to grasp,” said the admiral. “It’s anti-American, anti-Western, it’s pro-Islamic, it’s pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood!”
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/admiral-lyons-obama-s-strategy-it-s-anti-american-pro-islamic-it-s-pro

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Whereas it may appear I am heading off in two different directions here, I am not. I am instead relying on the thesis of Andy McCarthy’s book: The Grand Jihad, How Islam and the Left Sabotage America.

NebraskaFilly

I have always said it is my belief the “left” thinks they are using Islam for their own nefarious purposes, thinking they can be controlled in the end. Uh-huh! Their attack dogs will turn on them in the end – THAT is what will happen! When the numbers get high enough, look out!

Pat Frederick

This thread has explained so much for me…thanks Wolf!
I was an outlier in politics for so many years—I disliked the Dems (although never consciously having firm reasons) and always leaned towards the Repubs. Instinctively I resented the intrusion that BIGGER government represented.
When Obama came to power, I was befuddled—I’d never read about him or heard about him and when I tried to find out, I was stymied. But never would I have imagined a plan of this magnitude–although in hindsight, it was always there. I was just fooling myself that it couldn’t be possible.
But it explains so much–their movement is like a flock of bees–Dems swarm and attack as a mass…because of an innate need to protect their queen–although it’s not a person–it’s an ideal–and that’s even more frightening.

prairie123

I agree with your comment about the dems. I have often thought the reason why they always seem to get the upper hand is because they share a collective “hive mind” being willing to sacrifice personal thought and individuality to appease their leaders. Repubs are more divided by things like strong conservative ideals (small government, pro individual rights) and more moderate thinks (who I feel are like wolves in sheep clothing – no offense WM).
I also always thought Obama had someone pulling the strings behind him… he carried himself like a proud man who thought he was the smartest person in the room. I see now it was all a ruse. This is going to take some time for me to process.
I think I’ll need to read the article a few more times and do some research, but what WM wrote is making more sense by the minute.

pgroup
Linda

That’s exactly who they are. I’ve thought of them as the Borg for years.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

My favorite name for that piece of social media I’ve despised since Day 1: FaceBorg.

singularZoe

That’s even better than my name for it–Fox Face.

redlegleader68

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Must Read …

redlegleader68

W –
“In fact, I think this external planning to “assist” Democrat administrations has gone on for quite some time in the harder left wing of the party. Most in the party are surely unaware of this “foreign aid”. But some at the top MUST know about it.”
Think [DiFi]
Think [Go8]
Think [ChiCom]
Think [LongRoad]
…this could take a while! 😉

redlegleader68

W – just finished reading the linked article. Yes, very interesting … however (should I say, But!) I have some reservations about sourcing & believing everything Dr. Jerome Corsi would say/report. Corsi is for Corsi first, last and always.
I keep coming back to the Q line about “those you trust the most…” etc.
I do absolutely believe the events laid out are correct; and, who knows? Maybe Q+ was using Corsi to get the initial word out into “the mainstream.”
Regardless … TRUST THE PLAN.

judyw

“Maybe Q+ was using Corsi” is beyond an exceptional and intellectually astute move that would fit perfectly! Limited Hangouts are everywhere and all over the place and in using this person it could have easily been set up with just giving him partial information that he thought was full information. My thoughts about Corsi have evolved from my days of reading “Where’s The Birth Certificate?” to now more align with your position of “Corsi is for Corsi first, last and always”. So besides Trust the Plan we can allow in new information, assess it and also Trust Ourselves.

Linda

Don’t forget that Q called out Corsi as a “pay-triot” and then Corsi was suddenly calling out Q all over the internet and calling him a LARP. None of the anons on 8chan trust him at all.

Tonawanda

Brilliant post, Wolfmoon. Q now does make total sense, as does many years of recent American history.
Just a random thought in support:
The absurd denial by Fake News (leftist propaganda) to acknowledge ANY bias has always astonished me. The insistence that they practiced journalism or were representatives of the First Amendment was/is bizarre. IOW, even they could not be so deluded as to believe it themselves, and yet an essential part of their enterprise was to insist daily that they were neutral and objective.
This necessarily means they are agents as BO was/is an agent, and DemoKKKrats are agents. There is a game plan which admits of no deviation, not even the slightest public recognition of objective reality. To the contrary, like good apparatchiki, they join in any condemnation of any deviance from the Party Line.
As has been observed many times, it is not the Lie which is the source of satisfaction, it is in forcing others to acknowledge the Lie and abase themselves before the preposterously False which gives the thrill to being a leftist agent, and in knowing that you know that they know.
The pace of broadcasting absurd Lies has quickened since 2008, and the premise of these knowing falsehoods has always been that Americans are stupid, that America is stupid, that Western Civilization is stupid, when in reality all it meant was that Americans were decent and trusting people who could not imagine the cynical power plays – – resembling mental illness – – which anti-American agents were capable of.

Tonawanda

I was “lucky” to guess the possible meaning of Z, but your putting it together was the great insight.
A lot of things make a lot of sense right now. What seemed clear before seems more clear.
And it is so understandable why things are progressing they way they are.

Emeraldstar

“I was “lucky””
I would say that you were blessed.
And you passed that blessing on, to all of us, and “triggered” our host into a deep, and valuable, epiphany.
Which he then also passed on to us.
It wasn’t just a “quirk”, that you posted what you did!
Accept your due credit! You’ve been done recognized!
Like NYGuy said earlier – and I paraphrase – you got “perception”.
Cheers!

Tonawanda

TY so much!

Greg

YES! “not even the slightest public recognition of objective reality” – this is the Post Modernist doctrine that is taught in most universities.
From Wikipedia: “common targets of postmodern critique include universalist notions of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, language, and social progress” in other words whatever they say, no matter how divorced from objective reality, is their “reality”, it lets them get away with a multitude of sins and act as if they were always in the right!

Aubergine

Well, this is mind-blowing.
Thank you, Wolfmoon, for asking and answering the question which occurred immediately to me; “what the heck is ‘Z’?”
Somehow I missed your request to research it.
In the light of your post, many things occur to me. The Middle East wars, still ongoing. Are they really just a long-term ploy to demoralize and drain us? And, if so, why are we still there? Can President Trump not get us out?
They’ve infiltrated our schools for sixty years. Is the new administration doing anything about it? I haven’t heard boo from DeVos in a while. What is she doing to fix it?
Trump is doing what he can to discredit the media hacks who propagate their ideology in the name of a “Free Press,” but they are fighting hard. Most people I know claim not to believe the press anymore, but many of them are still spouting the media party line, even as they say they don’t buy it. There is a real disconnect there.
If we don’t get a national Voter ID system into place before the next pseudo-election, we may have to march on Washington. Get your yellow vest now!

NebraskaFilly

WADR, a national Voter ID is, IMO, a panacea covering up a much larger issue, that being the thorough corruption all the way down to the local level. There are States (such as NE) that do not even require proof of citizenship before being allowed to register to vote! I mean, come one – when something as basic as that is on-going around the country, what difference does an ID really make? Don’t get me wrong – I fully support ID requirements where it is necessary. It really isn’t necessary in such small towns as mine.
As for people still spouting the party line, IMO, it is a symptom of either (1) laziness in not taking the time to do their own research, or (2) as with most people, they are focused on living their daily lives as best they can and just don’t have the time. Ashamed tho I am about spending my entire adult life completely blind to all of this, it was also a reality that I was a single parent working hard to support my daughter alone and could get NO government financial assistance because I wasn’t a minority. Not even food stamps!

Cuppa Covfefe

Aubergine, not 60 years, but over 100 years.
Dewey and Mann basically restructured and ruined our “education” system, replacing it with the European globalist Marxist propaganda drivel. Gail Combs has written/posted extensively on this.
Look at http://www.crossroad.to (“Brave New Schools”, by Berrit Kjos), “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America”, by Charlotte Iserbyt, and “Invisible Serf’s Collar, a very technical yet accesible website about the (mis)education system in the USA (and the world) and what we can do about it, by Robin Eubanks.
The subversion of the USA began with the independence of the USA. Whether obvious or not, the UK are attempting to hang onto us like a dog on a bone. And they want to control us, and eventually the world, again. The fact that the sun has indeed set on the British Empire has escaped them. Indeed, the people of the UK need Brexit, but we in the rest of the EU need “EUexit” (sounds like somone hurling, which might be an appropriate metaphor after all)…
In re: the EU, Greece has been said to be the only country which has been bankrupt since its founding.
Some thousands of years ago…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Megadittos (if I may culturally appropriate a phrase) on the school thing.

Greece has been said to be the only country which has been bankrupt since its founding.

Funny about Greece being broke since its founding. (First, define “founding” when it was a collection of city-states until Alexander conquered it, but leave that aside for the moment.) Athens did so well in ancient times because they struck silver in Attica. Eventually the Athenian tetradrachm coin (helmeted Athena on one side, owl (also representing Athena) on the other) became ubiquitous in the ancient world. When the Delian League was set up after the Persian wars, Athens then ended up essentially collecting tribute to feed its (quite formidable) navy, and it was able to afford the magnificent temples on its acropolis. That doesn’t really strike me as “bankrupt.”
Now, Greece may have been bankrupt since it’s modern foundation in the 19th century, and that’s perhaps what people are thinking of when they make that statement.

Covadonga

“They’ve infiltrated our schools for sixty years”
Aubergine,
When Diana West investigated the Soviet infiltration that was amplified by Franklin Roosevelt’s official diplomatic recognition of the Soviet Union on Nov. 16, 1933, she found that at that time the New York City teachers’ unions had already been deeply infiltrated by Communism.
So we’re looking at a rot that is almost a century old, if not older.
Reading her book American Betrayal is a good step towards recognizing the scope of the problem.

Deplorable Patriot

Okay, Little Miss Frustrated here needed to walk away and take a shower before spouting off. Q says to expand thinking and unless it’s spoon fed, there does not seem to be much of that going on. I mean, there’s still talk that the military plan started during the Obama years.
Yeah, no. It may just be that I’ve been at this, chasing conspiracies, for more than 25 years, but there is no way something this precise just happened in the last decade. It had to have had roots decades ago, and before 2017,planning and execution was all about recon and putting pieces in place once the plan of action was ready, probably around 1999-2001 based on collective Q information.
First off, I do not have ANY regard for Alex Jones and Corsi. Zero. None. never have had. They get too much wrong even when some of what they say is right. Q said Corsi tried to infiltrate. Why? What purpose? His own aggrandizement? Or is he being used as some sort of agent by an entity that wanted to get a man on the inside of the plan since there doesn’t seem to be one. There is no reason to infiltrate if Corsi using Q anon analysis for website and book purchase traffic purposes. The mystery of Q alone would have been selling point enough. Plus, he used the phrase “Q Anon” which is the opposition’s terminology.
Second, remember that Donald Trump did The Apprentice from 2004-2015. When asked WHY he was doing the show, he said he was acquiring a skill he needed. What skill? The man was at the top of his game as a developer and builder. For that, he had skills that others envy. Could it be walking into and out of a part seamlessly was one skill he had, but that needed to be honed? If that’s the case, VSG being recruited for this in the last of the Obama years doesn’t work. It had to have been considerably longer ago than that. And he did say in that 5 minutes of video talking about the establishment that got him elected that he knew the time was going to come. Does that sound like a man who was recruited five years or less earlier?
Third, it is important to remember that every president since Andrew Jackson who opposed the central banks was either hounded constantly or was shot dead. It’s no accident Jackson’s portrait hangs in the Oval Office. The bottom line is that the way to enslave people is to control their ability to escape. That means depriving them of real money. Central banks do that by issuing currency backed in debt. That is why in the Q&A the anon chose to answer the question “Do we have the gold?” The answer came back yes, It’s set and ready to go, at least for us. Every war we have fought since Andrew Jackson was a banker’s war. Every last one. They, and the people who owned stock in the military contractors, were who profited. No one else. The end goal of this military operation is freedom for the human race by destroying the fiat currency system. That is getting missed as so many are mesmerized by the show being put on by Robert Mueller, Jim Comey, and a few others who keep getting headlines regardless of which side any of them are on.
As for our military figuring things out no matter who was behind it (Chinese, Soviets, whoever is pulling THEIR strings), the most logical time period for that revelation based on an aggregate of information gathered here, on the chans and other sources is the KOREAN War, not Vietnam. That’s most likely why Eisenhower put a stop to the war in question. What was the point if it was just about getting Americans to spend money and human assets in the name of bankrupting us. Remember, the Korean War was a UN operation, and until American brass started feeding the UN false plans, we were getting slaughtered.
Also remember the UN was not the first attempt at a world wide NGO meant to control the little people. The League of Nations following WWI preceded it. It failed because Woodrow Wilson could not get the support at home. It took WWII to generate that sort of support, and the Vietnam War to get Americans to not think so highly of the nation that all were willing to do anything to defend her. That war and effort to portray the military as traitors to the nation tore at the spiritual fabric of the country that we didn’t get back until 9-11 when we were tricked into giving up freedoms in the name of national security.
Yes, the enemy has been at this a long time.
I have not seen the movie Z, but will look it up for additional data points. It happened in Greece? Could it have been a dry run, and put in film form to get the concept out to operatives in the audiences without having to send secret cables and carrier pigeons? Not sure, but as there are no coincidences, and Q, like the Apostle and Evangelist St. John, does not waste words, and all have meaning, there is something there. And that movie being in the 50 year old ballpark….
My basic point is that The Plan took decades to develop (1950s-1990s would be my guess) and has been rolling in the recon, recruitment, insertion and prep stages since at least 9-11, which I have no doubt the team knew about. Nothing that big could have been kept completely quiet. This whole operation is HUGE. We are watching a movie, Q tells us. What is in the headlines is meant to distract from what is really happening, and the mainstream media does not want the public knowing any of that any more than the shadowy sorts do. They would be exposed for the parts they played in our enslavement.
Expand your thinking. Don’t just take the spoonfed information and assume that is correct. That’s what we’ve been trained to do by the MSM and others for centuries. The cryptic nature of the crumbs Q drops is pointing us in the right direction to counter the misinformation we have been taught.
I need to get going, but I just wanted to say this. This is not directed at anyone specifically. Capice?
Peace out.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Bravo!

NebraskaFilly

What is the earliest date that Donald Trump was first asked about running for President? Hmm…..will do some research on that….

NebraskaFilly

OK – ’87-’88, from what I can find. 30 years or so……let us not forget, he went to a military academy…..

Deplorable Patriot

Okay, that fits. I was thinking more like ’89, and maybe he didn’t say yes until JFK Jr.’s plane crash.

NebraskaFilly

Probably helped to solidify his plans….?

Deplorable Patriot

Could be. I mean, until he writes his memoirs all we can do is speculate. But, this did not manifest just in the last ten years. No way.

Deplorable Patriot

I don’t know that there is an answer to that question. At least it hasn’t surfaced yet.

churchmouse

1980 — Rona Barrett segment: the earliest time Donald Trump was asked to run for President.

NebraskaFilly

Whoa! Even earlier than I thought!

churchmouse

Yes.
I love it when he says he wouldn’t want to be President because he would ‘have to be nice all the time’. So typically Trump!
I remember first hearing of him in 1980 and followed him through the years. Went to Trump Tower shortly after it was built and it looks now (from the 2016 / early 2017 videocams) the way it looked then: absolutely sparkling.
To me, he will always be Trump. I only refer to him by his title to keep people happy. (I do not do it often on my own site, outside of the intro paragraph and maybe near the end of a post.) At CTH, it is a huge deal not putting ‘P’ or the full title before his initials or name.

Tonawanda

Domestically, the communists were very active in the 1960’s, but the focus of their activity was violent revolution. The “cultural revolution” in China, the student barricades in France, the Red Brigades, constant violent turmoil all over the world, reflected the genuine belief that the “capitalist system” (meaning America and Western Civilization) was ripe to be overthrown.
There was a genuine if malignant joy and creativity to communist subversion in the 60’s, shown in movies such as Z. Nihilism is fun, all you have to do is destroy, and Utopia will appear once enough people are killed or re-educated.
The red diaper babies were an integral part. They were re-vivifying the dreams of their parents, and in the normal communist methods successfully brought millions of useful idiots and naive fellow travelers with them, the bozos of the Boomer generation which have asphyxiated us so thoroughly during their tenure on this Earth.
By the mid-70’s it was apparent that violent revolution was a ridiculous losing hand, and the Long March through American institutions took place as the means of destruction. The Long March consisted of communist discipline and creative communist use of mass psychology, assisted by a vast army of clueless fellow travelers and useful idiots who actually bought into the surface Narrative, whatever it happened to be that day.
The 1% = the American nomenklatura and the apparatchiki of Martha’s Vineyard. And in 2019, we have masses of young American boys who think they are girls, and vice-versa, as the cover for enslavement.
Very brilliant, I would say.
Looking at old Trump tapes, he seems to have been aware of what was happening all along, and (also brilliantly) he played along to some extent.
The question is, at what point were Americans going to be presented with a fait accompli? Hillary’s election seems to have been that anticipated historic occasion, implying that in 2008 things were not yet sufficiently developed. By 2008 mass psychology over race and identity had been created to the point decisive leverage over enough clueless Americans (useful idiots and fellow travelers).
The hidden biography of BO IMO plays a very significant aspect of all this. Trump and a few others know what happened in Moscow when Clinton visited, or in Pakistan when BO visited. But understanding the entire background of BO and his manipulated rise to power was the critical factor, I am guessing. And in this respect BO’s firing of military officers was a specific alarming factor.
America has been very brilliantly degraded over the years, but the actual decisive seizure of power by foreign governments took place in 2008, and for 99% of Americans was totally unknown and unknowable, although good-hearted people sensed it.

Deplorable Patriot

I can agree with this. I think there was a lot more going on out there than people realize.

Tonawanda

To the extent most Americans could not even imagine. The Boy Scouts have been quite meticulously destroyed, but most Americans have complete sentimental belief in the SPCA, a leftist organization intended to destroy traditional American farming, private property, the perception of the relative nature of man and animal, and MOST of all, an organization devoted to creating the criminalization of average Americans.

thetinfoilhatsociety

Putin is a ‘good guy’ when it comes to this stuff. Putin is a RAGA Russia first kind of guy. And I completely respect his ruthless ways of making that so. He looked to America and Europe as what was in store for his country if it continued on the way it was and he said HELL NO. Good for him. All nations should be like Poland, Hungary, and Russia.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

as I believe some of this is actually the doing of GEORGE WASHINGTON.
Yes. I kid you not. Our first President was a general. He very likely created contingencies of various kinds, knowing that these two roles needed to protect each other.

If so, he’s the only person in history to create an organization or schema that didn’t manage to get corrupted or captured by cynical power seekers for over 200 years (or tidied out of existence by an overt reorganization of the military).
I’m afraid I can’t quite believe this…at least not without some sort of qualification.

wheatietoo

The whole idea of ‘Self Rule’ was horrifying to the ruling class in George Washington’s day.
They tried to destroy our infant country, in the War of 1812.
But they failed.
That ruling class is still around.
It morphed into the Globalists of today.
Totalitarian Control…is their goal.
They are using Islam to further that goal, since the basis of Islam is totalitarianism; it masquerades as a ‘religion’ to accomplish that goal.
Capitalism is essential to Self Rule.
It is based on merit…rather than cronyism.
It gives power to the consumer, and thus, to the people.
So in order to accomplish their goal of Totalitarian Control…the Globalists must destroy Capitalism.
They use the sexy handmaiden, Socialism, to lure people into their goal of Collectivism.
Call it “communism” if you like…but I prefer to call it Collectivism.
Same thing, really.
But calling it ‘collectivism’ is more precise and avoids the brick wall of mind-control that has been established against the word ‘communism’.
How do the collectivists destroy Capitalism?
They sabotage it.
They sabotage Capitalism using sexy socialist programs that act as hobbles.
The hobbles lead to a collapse of capitalism.
Then they blame capitalism…and declare that “Capitalism doesn’t work!”
Diabolical.
It’s the same tactic they are using against PDJT.
They put hobbles on him…sabotage him…keep him from getting anything done.
Then they declare, “He’s not keeping his promises!”
The Globalists are terrified that Pres Trump might succeed.
That’s why they have deployed all of their flying monkeys to try and stop him.

Plain Jane

Nam vets have told me that our military was under orders of UN and often Russian commanders. The men were held back from winning in Nam, at least where these men were.

Plain Jane

There are a lot of untold (except in confidenc) stories in the hearts of vets who were sold out, not my their immediate commanding officers, but by …you name it.

Deplorable Patriot

I meant to get back to you yesterday, but my sister decided that there was no pushing off cookie day to later in the week. (And she made a mess, too.)
I think the Vietnam play was as subtle as a freight train. Kennedy made moves to get us out of there, Johnson reversed course immediately. Not hard to see who was on what team there.
I’ll put it on the Daily Thread, for Monday or Tuesday, but I have some ideas that the US, like France, has a psychological national identity that is pretty hard to break. That was probably part of the way it went down with the politicians trying to fight the war from the far hemisphere.
And yeah once you see it, there’s no going back.

Nor'easter

“It had to have had roots decades ago, and before 2017,planning and execution was all about recon and putting pieces in place once the plan of action was ready, probably around 1999-2001 based on collective Q information.”
Deplorable Patriot:
I believe this to be highly plausible.
I also believe that this movement has been GENERATIONAL, going back many years before that, with long-term planning, likely failures, falling back, regrouping, readjusting, and reattempting several times.
IMO, this most recent wave originated during the Reagan administration due to the selection of GHWB as VP, and likely included military men (ike Adms. Lyons and Rogers, Gen. Flynn, etc.), and their plans may have included men like Ross Perot, Ron Paul, and Pat Buchanan, as well as Donald Trump.
Also, IMO, the election of Pres. Trump, and the unsuccessful attempts to remove him from office is what has thus far prevented martial law and a citizens revolt.
Both options are on the table.

Deplorable Patriot

I agree on the generational thing, and falling back to retrench, regroup, etc., when things don’t go quite right. On both sides.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Does anyone know anything at all concrete about plans to ditch fiat money?

Deplorable Patriot

I haven’t seen any, but I’ve also been offline for the last 15-16 hours, and the sun isn’t up yet. Will report in if I do. I have no doubt it will be an announcement out of the blue, though.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In fact, unless I missed it, there’s no actual indication this sort of thing is on the table, just lots of hopeful speculation.

Deplorable Patriot

I have seen stuff online, just not announced from the administration other than one POTUS tweet talking about the fed being a problem. He throws stuff out there a few months ahead of action to get the waters stirred up.

Covadonga

I have my suspicions concerning Eisenhower.
His FBI knew about the reality of the Communist infiltration that Sen. McCarthy was exposing, and Ike refused to acknowledge it publicly, or support McCarthy and the other anti-Communists at all.
For 70 years the country has been split apart on this gut-wrenching issue, and the successive administrations have always concealed enough evidence to allow the Communists to continue with their denials and other propaganda efforts, and to gain in strength over time.

Covadonga

I found that the greatest companion volume to American Betrayal is Blacklisted by History by M. Stanton Evans, a political biography of McCarthy.
If enough people read it, it would do for McCarthy’s reputation what Zola’s J’Accuse did for Dreyfus’, just 60 years too late.
Concerning Ike, remember the American POWs who got sent to the eastern camps by the Nazis, or to the northern camps by the Japanese? They never came back. Ike put up with that as the commander of SHAEF, then retired to run Columbia University and forgot all about them.
Then became president, and still NEVER DID ONE THING ABOUT IT. He never brought the boys home, and never even mentioned the issue.
In every single war we have fought since the advent of Bolshevism, if Russians were involved in the conflict, we had boys who didn’t come home. And no president until Mr. Trump has ever mentioned it.
But Eisenhower is unique in being both a “victorious” general and a president, and who never brought home, in either of his capacities, the boys who had fought under his command.
That, and the refusal to release the FBI wiretaps and other data McCarthy wanted, or to prosecute many of the known offenders, is what makes me question Ike’s role in the clandestine war.

Aleksander W

To the author of this site: I HIGHLY recommend this text: https://archive.org/stream/RedSymphony/RedSymphony_djvu.txt
History repeats itself for sure…
And this is a BONUS:

That last one is my favorite and TRULY mindblowing!

Plain Jane

TY Aleksander. Just sent the links to my PC to download and print.

anon

Look up the Citibank suicides, inexplcably large number. Could be people who found out the truth.

wheatietoo

HusseinO sued Citibank in 1995, on behalf of ACORN.
This was done to force Citibank to make sub-prime loans.
Citibank caved…because they couldn’t fight the Label of “racist!!!11!!”
This sent out shock waves throughout the banking industry.
The message was loud and clear:
“Make subprime loans to people who cannot afford to pay them, or you will be sued into oblivion for being racist.”
So Banks began making subprime loans like crazy.
Which led to the ‘banking collapse’ of 2008.
It’s no coincidence that Oil Prices triggered it.
All of a sudden…people couldn’t afford to pay their mortgages, because they were having to pay $100’s more per month to fill their tanks, just to get to work!
The corrupt members of OPEC and the Saudi royal family, jacked up the price of Oil…to facilitate Hussein’s rise to power.
This is why the Globalists want Prince MBS removed.
He has been rooting out the corruption.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Wheatie — the Hussein lawsuit against Citi was merely the public relations aspect of the push to extend mortgage loans to people who could not afford them. Clinton’s bank regulators pressured banks hard all across the country to eliminate “redlining” practices, which banks used to avoid making loans in areas where the real estate was unlikely to retain its security value. These areas had a high concentration of minorities and poor people, as you may expect. And then to get people into the loans, you had Countrywide (and others), who monitored credit scores and when people with bad credit momentarily popped up into a range where they qualified for a loan, Countrywide would send a solicitation “hey, get your free money here.” And you had the major US credit rating agencies abdicating their responsibilities (again under pressure from the Clinton admin) and enabling underlying financial structures where the people who initiated the loans got a fee and then packaged and sold their loans in bundles, removing the age old backstop against making bad loans because they shifted the default risks to someone else. And you had the cookie cutter accounting standards, which enabled the auditors who certified the balance sheets of buyers of the loan bundles to avoid looking through to the underlying risks.
We will want to revisit this whole fiasco when PDJT gets around to restructuring our banks. Most people don’t know that the bailouts that occurred when the subprime chickens came home to roost had to be done to save a handful of European central banks who invested heavily in the loan bundles and were facing the losses associated with the default risk. This would have bankrupted much of Europe.

Spab

Wolf, let me be clear about what I think your conclusions are with respect to Plan Z. Is it your contention that Plan Z was a strategy for Q and the patriots (specifically those serving in the higher ranks of the military)? Is it your contention that Plan Z was, by design, the final option (the ‘Hail Mary’ play), a military coup? Is it also your contention that what has transpired, by Q and others, has been their attempt to avoid using Plan Z, for the sake of the country and its citizens? Finally, is it your contention that Q’s cryptic message that Plan Z has been avoided is a message that Plan Z will not be necessary?
If the answer to all these questions is yes then I find that I agree with that assessment as a logical and likely explanation of the known facts. That is excellent work by you and Ton and whoever else you included in your analysis.

NebraskaFilly

And another question: was the VSG PDJT a part of this plan since the ’80’s, if not earlier? I can do nothing but say an emphatic yes! And the symbolism of the comparison to Cyrus cannot be denied as well, IMO. As for Bill Cooper and his claims…..it just strains credulity that so very many people who had to be involved in these antics have ALL kept silent all these years? IDK – awfully hard to believe…..

Elizabeth Carter

NF A lot of the people did not keep silence, they were silenced by various means including “arkancide”. I was 22 when JFK was assassinated. Donald Trump would have been 15. He was old enough to be greatly impacted. That began a time of great turmoil in America. Assassinations, riots, flag burning, drugs, free sex, feminism, the destruction of the family, the churches, our schools and our government went to warp speed.
I think President Trump knew about this most of his life. To take on this kind of battle, you have to hone your skills, your associates and your faith in God. I believe he has always been training for this time in his life. I don’t know if he thought he would ever become President, but I do think he planned to take this enemy on in every way he could and he planned to win.
President Reagan managed to put a lid on it by calling out the National Guard. It was all still boiling under the lid. We all hoped it would stop but over the years, it became very clear that we were in the middle of a Communist takeover of America. They really thought they had the job done with Obama and Hillary was going to finish us off.
Many people do know what is going on but if they want to live, raise their families or make a living, they have learned to keep their mouths shut.
It is not only a huge “open conspiracy” They tell you what they are going to do, they do it and if you say “Look what they did!!”, they take you down in such a way that others see what happened to you. People who know you don’t want that to happen to them so they just look the other way.
Open Conspiracy – http://comunistmanifesto101.blogspot.com/2012/11/45-points-of-communist-manifesto.html

daughnworks247

Yes, when DJT showed up in New Orleans for the Repub Convention in 1988, Trump was all that anyone talked about.
Look back to those interviews on Youtube.
Lee Atwater wanted DJT as Bush’s VP pick.
Daddy Bush was the one who said, “NO!”.

singularZoe

Wasn’t Atwater part of the cabal? So did they think they could control DJT? Lol.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The general sense I’m getting reading this post and comments is:
Z=military coup. If this interpretation is correct (it’s certainly plausible), a lot of things fit (which is why it’s so plausible).
Z was considered ONLY as a last resort–if Hitlary got elected, or the Deep State succeeded in ousting PDJT. That’s because Z would have created a lot of problems (such as many Americans believing the coup was illegitimate; and not all of them would have been leftists by any means).
Z can now be taken off the table because the Deep State is no longer capable of ousting PDJT.

singularZoe

Steve, iI pray you are correct that they cannot overthrow him, not so certain, wish I were. If this was already addressed, please disregard, but have you all seen or read Seven Days in May about an attempted military coup in the U.S.?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I haven’t.
I said the DS can’t overthrow Trump now, based on backward reasoning from the Z avoided comment. They’d do Z if Trump got ousted. Since Q sounds confident that Z won’t be needed, it means Q doesn’t think Trump can be ousted at this point.
(The key assumption is that Q knows what he/they is/are talking about, of course.)

Plain Jane

Who’s on first?

singularZoe

Lol, Jane.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Nope, I am NOT going to post a picture of first baseman Hu.

Plain Jane

LOL.

Sylvia Avery

Read the book, saw the movie.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I sort of alluded to the point about the coup being something they wanted, when I pointed out that many would consider the coup illegitimate.
A LOT of people who value the Constitution would see it as a big overstepping and would oppose the coup. These are people who *ought* to be on our side, with a similar vision of government, but a coup would be overkill to them, and it would divide the new government from many of its natural constituents. The left would exploit that, big time.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, now I know where everyone disappeared to this morning!

Deplorable Patriot

Well, I don’t know about you, but I’ve been to Church and back where the frustrations just continued. I keep forgetting our choir peeps may be dedicated, but they aren’t pros.

Cuppa Covfefe

You can use Ives’ Psalm 24 as a warm up 🙂
(just kidding…).

Deplorable Patriot

The psalm of the day from Owen Alstott was bad enough.

Cuppa Covfefe

Having read this response, I can understand your plight (haven’t listened to his work, though):
“Kathy December 2013
[ https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/comment/113485#Comment_113485 ]
Posts: 4,965
I know the above well enough to sing from memory the soprano, alto, and descant lines from memory. (Sometimes the tenor.)
Alstott’s music is, precisely, serviceable. It is not beautiful. I can think of one or two exceptions. (I seem to remember liking the Alleluia verse for Epiphany.) Mostly I’ve used R and A because it is so incredibly easy, the Rossini of a parish music program. Hand it out to a dozen cantors at the beginning of the year and badda bing badda boom.
Compare any one of the above with a real composition, for example, at :22, 4:36, and 8:34 of the below. Very brief antiphons can be really composed, so that they are not merely utility music but actually beautiful”
“Serviceable”. Damning with faint praise, I’d suppose. Rather like “Lotsa Plots” as a basis for a novel or a magazine series, or “Mountains in Minutes” for a Model Railroad (or Diorama) background… For those of us on the string side of things, it’s reminiscent of Vivaldi having composed (almost wrote composted) the same concerto 700 times…
Then again, there are the Alfred Burt Carols, and “Hymn of The Nativity” by Kenneth Leighton…

Deplorable Patriot

That set of psalm settings is, yes, serviceable. They are also over 40 years old, and will not be going away any time soon because the composer is on the board of the publishing company.
However, for a volunteer choir, they are a challenge. And yesterday, it was just not pretty.

scott467

“Securing the SC meant EVERYTHING.”
_________________
Except that hasn’t happened yet.
Currently, it’s a 4-4 tie with Roberts as the swinging crazy subversive vote. Just as they play the game in the Senate, they also play on the (not)Supreme Court.
The entire concept of a ‘swing vote’ is the biggest ‘tell’ in the world, it’s in our FACES.
Think about it. The ‘swing’ vote NEVER EVER ‘swings’ our direction, in the direction of freedom, in the direction of MAGA. Never, ever, EVER. It’s not a *wildcard* that could go ‘either way’ and it never has been. It’s predictable, and it always goes against We the People, and that’s not a coincidence.
In the Senate, it was (and REMAINS!) Murkowski and Collins, and probably Rick Scott who won in Florida. If you take them out, it will be someone else. Whenever the balance is close enough that one or a few can tip it to the Cabal’s side, it is an easy thing to buy off or blackmail a tiny fraction in order to gain control of the whole thing.
On the (not)Supreme Court, the swinging jackass is now Roberts. His recent attacks on POTUS made that crystal clear. Those attacks would be utterly tone-deaf if they were made by an imbecile. Roberts is not an imbecile, so it was on purpose.
Ergo, the (not)Supreme Court is not ‘secure’. Not until Ginsburg kicks off, and we have a 5-4 majority without Roberts, or a 6-3 majority with Roberts.
Until Roberts is accounted for, the (not)Supreme Court is not ‘secure’.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I tend to agree.
Since I became politically aware, and even before, it’s just been impossible to put the ball over that line. We’ll have a Republican president who nominates people who “grow” in office (like a tumor), nominating someone who turns on him. If we actually flip Ginsberg’s seat, that’s OK, some Republican appointee will suddenly become a squish, joining Roberts.
I am minded of the Star Trek episode “Day of The Dove” where the Klingon, Kang, wonders aloud, “What feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?”

Nor'easter
Nor'easter

The incoming Senate may be running a close parallel.

GA/FL

NOT impressed with the SCOTUS decision on abortion funding this past week.
NOT at all!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Correct me if I’m wrong, but as I understand it, the case had much more to do with Planned Parenthood services in general, than with abortion in particular.

GA/FL

Honestly – I just heard a few opinion blurbs on the radio – haven’t read the case or the decision.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I remember a lot of people upset over the FGM case that went through federal court…then it turned out the court didn’t believe it had jurisdiction.
I’d want to know the rationale behind the decision before setting my (few remaining) hair(s) on fire over it. 😀

GA/FL

Heh – you are right of course!

singularZoe

As far as I’m concerned, saying Planned Parenthood provides health care is like saying Dr. Mengele provided health care while performing his experiments on victims.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As far as I can tell, PP does provide things like cancer screening and (pre-conception) contraception, so that at least puts them at a level above Mengele, who did nothing of any value whatsoever for any of his patients. Mind you, that’s a very low bar!

singularZoe

I see know value in testing without treatment, and it’s all window dressing, besides which, I have been told they don’t even do mammograms, but a butcher is a butcher. The health checks are just a way to get funding so they can say they do more than kill babies.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Actually I have a much simpler argument against funding PP.
Show me in the constitution where the Federal Government has the power to fund health care.
Of course, this particular case is a state issue…

singularZoe

I agree, Steve, but I refuse to agree with them they are a health care provider.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Whatever it is they are, it’s not something in article 2, section 8.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Scuse me, Article I, Section 8.

churchmouse

‘The health checks are just a way to get funding so they can say they do more than kill babies.’
You nailed it, Zoe! Thank you!

Plain Jane

And sex education for kids. They tell them how to have anal sex. How good masturbation is. Things like that. Yep they diversify their services.
I voluntered for pro-life in different capacities for two full decades of my life, everything from sidewalk counseling, to PR for a crisis pregnancy center (CPC) , to DH and I painting a CPC, to BoD for a CPC, to running a post abortion healing program for men and women, to running a prayer group in front of PP for a decade.
Oh, have I ever got first hand accounts!
PP should not get ANY public money, but it should be up to the states how they spend their medicaid money.

singularZoe

Jane, thank you for your service to us all, and especially to mothers and fathers and dear little babies. Bet the Lord used you to save many lives while others were trying to destroy them for profit.

Plain Jane

I don’t know if any children were saved from abortion, but all God asks is that we try. Prayer and reliance on Him can be our only gift to Him. He is everything.

singularZoe

Very true, Jane.

singularZoe

And I fear Judge Kavanaugh may be another Kennedy.

scott467

“To avoid the actual physical nightmare of a military coup, otherwise needed to STOP an insidious take-over of the United States by a global leftist conspiracy, a last-chance civilian solution was chosen. The bottom line was the desire to AVOID an actual military solution in a military space.”
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I am not at all sure that avoiding a military coup would be avoiding a ‘nightmare’.
We’ve been LIVING in a nightmare for so long that our perspective is inverted. Like a Hobie Cat / Catamaran that has flipped over in the ocean.
A military coup would ‘right’ the boat.
Our entire ‘house’ is infested with fleas. Spot-spraying here and there doesn’t accomplish anything. But if you take off, and nuke the entire site from orbit (bug-bomb the whole house), you kill ’em all dead.
I know, I know, the snowflakes would melt all over the place.
I couldn’t care less. I’ll collect their tears, put them in a beaker, and have a boil-away party. These people have wrecked all of our lives, wrecked our Republic, so I could absolutely care less if they are inconvenienced or ‘stressed’ about actions required to correct their absolute dereliction of responsibility and rational thinking.
And yes, I know, I know about all the ‘sky is falling’ predictions of ‘mass riots’ and the 1% declaring war on the 99%. Bring it. Come out into the light, expose yourselves, so you can be annihilated.
We have been playing ‘patty-cake’ with this horrendous evil for so long that wearing ‘kid gloves’ is our standard point of reference.
A military coup solves all that BS with total clarity.
And it solves a lot of other BS too.
The enemy within, the traitors inside the gates, don’t have any ‘rights’, they are enemy combatants, and a military coup is the most efficient, thorough and decisive method of eliminating them, on all fronts, at once.
And in the aftermath, there would be no doubt about who the enemy was, or how the enemy got a foothold in our society, or how the enemy was allowed to flourish and gain control.
And there would be no doubt about who the sympathizers and enablers were — whether your family members, your neighbors, your friends, to your local politicians, state politicians, federal politicians, Hollyweirdos, whoever.
If they supported the Left in ANY thing, they are guilty by association (at least!), and their input is NOT required. They should have to wear a Scarlet Letter, a “T” for Treason, for the next 50 years.
The concept of anything “Left” politically should be so radioactively toxic that it can’t surface again for at least a CENTURY.
These horrible people have already ruined my life and the lives of countless millions of Americans. Who do we SEE about that?
There is nobody.
The best we can do is FIX the problem by taking a chainsaw to the cancer and throwing the tainted meat in a wood-chipper.
But the ‘good guys’ never seem to have the stomach to do what is necessary.
And that’s how we end up in this mess, over and over and over again.
The best you can do is hope for is that you’re born in a time of peace and prosperity. Because if you’re not, you’re just screwed.
But this time we have an opportunity to interrupt the historical ‘cycle’, to purge the evil, to put it in a crucible and burn it away.
Or, we can chip away at the evil from the outside in tiny bits, desperately hoping to let the blue-pill zombies remain forever in their blue-pill coma-life, while those of us who are awake are aware of our enslavement every waking moment.
I’ll take the coup, if it’s still on the table.
Total victory, not this penny-ante garbage.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Total victory required breaking the enemy’s will, such that they will submit to yours going forward. It does not require that everyone who is vanquished be eliminated. I trust that if our leaders felt a coup was the best course of action, that is what we would be experiencing.

scott467

“Total victory required breaking the enemy’s will, such that they will submit to yours going forward.”
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It’s not MY will that matters, I just want to left in PEACE.
Every time I turn around, there’s a new ‘bill’ for a new ‘service’ that I can’t get out of. Or another ‘license’ is required for something the CONSTITUTION guarantees my RIGHT to do, without begging ‘permission’ for a LICENSE from the miscreants who are supposed to be serving US.
Or a new ‘tax’. Or tax on my PROPERTY, such that you never actually OWN your own house or your own land, because if you don’t pay your PROPERTY tax, the gubermint will ‘lien’ it away from you.
EVERY THING is designed to strip us of our money… EVERY THING is exquisitely designed to extract every last penny we acquire, and subjugate us to 100s of thousands of codes, statutes and regulations that no human being could ever hope to learn, much less understand.
It never used to be that way… there didn’t used to be any such thing as ‘property tax’, or ‘income tax’ or any other such unconstitutional bullshit.
We didn’t used to be like Gulliver, held down by a hundred ropes by the Lilliputians.
We used to be FREE.
I don’t want to be a king or a dictator — what matters is the RULE of LAW, a quaint notion that we boldly tout about ourselves, but which I’ve never seen demonstrated in my lifetime.
It’s all bullshit.
Our entire country’s self-image is based on bullshit, stories we tell about ourselves so we don’t have to face the awful truth.
Practically everything I’ve ever been told or taught in this life has turned out to be bullshit, and that is one thing I will not miss at all when I leave this madhouse.
24/7/365 gaslighting, Potemkin villages and propaganda.
Lies, lies and more lies. Everything is lies, and I detest it with every fiber of my being. The more I learn about truth, the more I hate lies.
And the people responsible for all it are the blackest evil in the universe, with a direct line traced straight to Satan.

scott467

“I trust that if our leaders felt a coup was the best course of action, that is what we would be experiencing.”
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I wish that I could trust.
I wish that I had a reason to trust.
I don’t.
Or rather, I do — I trust that the same wicked people who have been lying to us and deceiving us our entire lifetimes will continue to do exactly the same, in perpetuity, until or unless they are terminated with extreme prejudice.
I trust that.
Our ‘leaders’ are SOFT.
Our enemy is not, our enemy is HARD.
But our side is always SOFT.
If they weren’t, we wouldn’t be dealing with this #$%^ right now, would we?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We will always have the power hungry amongst us, and they will always be drawn into positions of power, then once attaining them, will hold them.
We could sweep the bastards out, 100% (with the aid of mind readers), and be right back in the soup in thirty years’ time, because new bastards would take their place.

scott467

“We could sweep the bastards out, 100% (with the aid of mind readers), and be right back in the soup in thirty years’ time, because new bastards would take their place.”
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30 years…
That’s probably more time than I’ll have anyway, and the blessed relief would be overwhelming.
Okay, let’s do it then.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And Thomas Jefferson knew this (though he said “20”).

prairie123

Hey Scott, when are you running for office? You got my vote!!! Let’s roll!!

Sadie Slays

Sadly, I suspect that this goes beyond China and Russia. It appears that the ENTIRE WORLD ganged up on us. There was the Saudi Prince funding all sorts of subversive activity against the US, Pakistan with their Awan Brothers mess and Obama connections, pallets of cash to Iran, Five Eyes spying on the President, Canada’s Trudeau connected to Uranium One, and then the whole global occult aspect to this. Not to downplay the Chinese threat, but I think they were just another chess piece and not the chess player. Who is the player? Or is it more accurate to ask, “WHAT is the player?”

thetinfoilhatsociety

I personally think Saudis’ are on the table as targets because they are planning to take OPEC off the dollar standard. Khashoggi was a ploy and Trump’s not buying it. The FEDS are involved in that as are the international bankers. THEY stand to lose a great deal by this if the Saudi’s are successful.

Sadie Slays

The US and Saudi alliance changed after the great Saudi purge of 2017 removed scumbag Prince Al-Waleed from power (he was the mastermind behind all of the Saudi activity against the US). Part of the current media agitating is punishment for removing “their” guy from power.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Yes, it is remarkable how everyone who was anyone immediately knew it was terrible that Khashoggi was killed.

GA/FL

You mean that ‘Dopey Prince’? ;8->

Emeraldstar

“Everybody saw the leaky bank-bag of US money”
America has been the envy, and the target / prize, of the rest of the WORLD for many decades.
Perhaps, as you’ve hypothesized, since its inception. It got REAL during the Civil War and its aftermath.
I trust Q’s analysis. First, VSGPDJT took care of the top – the three plusses “+++”, SA. Next, we take care of the bankers – who’ve profiteered from both sides of almost EVERY war there’s been for the past hundred years at least. After that, the third level – the single plus crew, like Sore-**s, will be relatively straight-forward.
I am CONVINCED that the only way to win – to win back our Republic – is to do EXACTLY as VSGPDJT is doing. It’s likely to take until 2024. But along the way, we’ll see successes, just as we’ve been seeing. It’s ALWAYS “slowest” at the start. We’re not even a quarter of the way through.
“Complicated business.”
I trust the plan.

JasonD

I take exception to “everybody” …. 🙂
Let us say – All Commies, Everywhere were against us.
Supporting you are many righteous people, all over the world.

JasonD

And this is why you are rocketing UP the charts with this site!!! (Haven’t checked any stats – but it seems like numbers are heading North!!)
So it is said that most families are run on communist principles, which makes ALL of as part commie.
The difference is that in the family it is FREELY GIVEN – not TAKEN BY FORCE as per communist principles. Plus of course, in well run families the principle of tough love applies – you do not pour resources down bottomless pits – little Johnny is expected to WORK and PRODUCE ACTUAL RESULTS in order to keep receiving family backing of his education.
And that is why the bastards never disappear – because it is spreading misconceptions like this which make them so effective in finding useful idiots to promote their evil ideology.

Johnny

https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/wmaG5uoXFtgr6vNOu3m1guJsvS8=/956×0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/share_of_global_economy-5bfd84e446e0fb0051581631
Nice pie chart shows why “It appears that the ENTIRE WORLD ganged up on us”.

Sadie Slays

The link isn’t working for me, sorry. I’d Google it, but I’m not sure what to Google it.

Johnny

Sorry. Did a quick read, popped in with an incomplete thought and then didn’t do a quality control check on my post. . . .
The link is just a pie chart showing that familiar picture of our GNP vs the rest of the world. Basically it’s jealousy. The world wants what we have and feel they need to steal it.
The World’s Top 20 Economies – Investopedia
https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/
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Aug 16, 2018 … The United States has been the world’s largest economy since 1871, but … of country GDP, current international dollar); Gross domestic product …

Marica

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singularZoe

Hi, Merika. Hope you got an a.

GA/FL

We have long suspected our beloved gutsy DJT was recruited by a group of patriots. There is no telling where/when/who/how many met at various Trump properties through the years….there are hundreds, if not thousands of possible locations where they could meet secretly.

Gil

Im late to the party today, but Wolf, it “bottles the mind”. 🤔😆😐
I havent read through all the comments yet, but I just wonder where that leaves gorbachev and putin? This is so much bigger than domestic actors. Here I thought noko getting ubder control and iran next was the big international terror, besides the economic terror within our dealings with china. It goes all the way back to pre ww2 red scare in the US and through to cuba when jfk was shot and into the Reagan years….wolverines!
Im rambling but mr gil was just saying he doesnt see how we avoid ww3 at this point. I dont know how the storm doesnt water the tree, so to speak?

Gil

Im reading just now “the prince”. No, never read it before. Notable on chapter 9 civil princedom,
“Therefore, one who becomes a prince through the favour of the people
ought to keep them friendly, and this he can easily do seeing they
only ask not to be oppressed by him. But one who, in opposition to the
people, becomes a prince by the favour of the nobles, ought, above
everything, to seek to win the people over to himself, and this he may
easily do if he takes them under his protection. Because men, when
they receive good from him of whom they were expecting evil, are bound
more closely to their benefactor; thus the people quickly become more
devoted to him than if he had been raised to the principality by their
favours; and the prince can win their affections in many ways, but as
these vary according to the circumstances one cannot give fixed rules,
so I omit them; but, I repeat, it is necessary for a prince to have
the people friendly, otherwise he has no security in adversity.
Nabis,[*] Prince of the Spartans, sustained the attack of all Greece,
and of a victorious Roman army, and against them he defended his
country and his government; and for the overcoming of this peril it
was only necessary for him to make himself secure against a few, but
this would not have been sufficient had the people been hostile. And
do not let any one impugn this statement with the trite proverb that
“He who builds on the people, builds on the mud,” for this is true
when a private citizen makes a foundation there, and persuades himself
that the people will free him when he is oppressed by his enemies or
by the magistrates; wherein he would find himself very often deceived,
as happened to the Gracchi in Rome and to Messer Giorgio Scali[+] in
Florence. But granted a prince who has established himself as above,
who can command, and is a man of courage, undismayed in adversity, who
does not fail in other qualifications, and who, by his resolution and
energy, keeps the whole people encouraged–such a one will never find
himself deceived in them, and it will be shown that he has laid his
foundations well.”
This is our POTUS, isnt it? Trusting a plan, centuries in the making, but just 2 years into the widely tangible heart of it. I have hope, I have faith. Whoever planned the plan, started before obummer. Obummer really just was their big chess move and cankles was to be the queen?

Linda

Excellent article, Wolf, and lots of food for thought. Yes, a lot of what is happening could very well be coming from Russia/China and their useful idiots here. But I’m also reminded that the Cabal created communism and then paid actors to get it done in Russia (maybe China as well). We also know that both countries have a Rothschild central bank. So I’m still looking at them as the source of it all. That doesn’t mean that without them Russia and China would be any different, by the way. But I still look at the banksters as the top dogs below Satan.

singularZoe

May the Lord bring destruction to the socialist communazis according to His perfect will.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

New Daily Thread!
Sorry, Razorback….