The Quantum Tree

Ever since the White House made the “Q” / Quantum connection public on June 22 of this year, I’ve gone a bit “quantum crazy” – joyfully savoring how one of my favorite scientific subjects is now in vogue, and getting “tip-top” attention!

Remember this?

(Use your scroll wheel – you’ll see…..)

Yeah, that does go off the screen. Here is the full text, as a quote.

︎︎White House will be Q posting today…




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And by Q we mean Quantum. Stay tuned 👀

The long series of newlines has an additional invisible character in the middle. The anons have already figured out that little Easter egg! (see below)

Notice the date, too. 06/22/2026 – Just a bit interesting, wouldn’t you say? Again, I leave that for the anons, although I will note that it roughly encodes something extremely cool that I worked on in quantum chemistry. Yeah, I’m reading my own things into it, but it’s all in good fun.

And the Q part gets even more intense. How about this?

That is just fun. Oh, it’s important, too, but I just love when we can have fun with important stuff!

Was this Q trolling? It was beautiful, because NO – it’s way more than trolling. Check out what the White House put out, the same day.

LINK: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/06/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-ushers-in-the-next-frontier-of-quantum-innovation

This isn’t the executive order – it’s the fact sheet about the order – but it is still very interesting.

Let’s look at what it says.


ACCELERATING QUANTUM INNOVATION: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to supercharge U.S. innovation in quantum technologies and strengthen our national security in this critical area.  

  • The Order directs the Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, in coordination with other relevant government leaders, to update the National Quantum Strategy to support quantum-enabling technology and encourage partnerships with U.S. industry.
  • The Order establishes a national effort to develop the first ever quantum computer powerful enough to initiate the era of quantum-enabled scientific discovery and accelerate quantum capabilities for commercial applications. This includes evaluations of quantum computing system capabilities, an assessment of the resources necessary to build this science-enabling quantum computer, and development of specifications for such a system.
  • The Order directs the Assistant to the President for Science and Technology to coordinate this effort across the Departments of Energy, War, Commerce, and the Intelligence Community, as well as with U.S. industry and research leaders. 
  • The Order calls on the Secretaries of Commerce, War, and Energy and the NASA Administrator to develop plans to deploy quantum-enabled sensors and networks in the next five years.  
  • The Order prioritizes the development of a strong American quantum workforce through the expansion of registered apprenticeships, credentials, and the creation of National Quantum Workforce Development Institutes. It also directs the development of a plan and other measures to ensure adequate domestic supply chains and manufacturing capabilities for quantum technologies, as well as appropriate funding support for such efforts.  
  • The Order reconstitutes the National Quantum Initiative Advisory Committee and directs the expansion of the Quantum Counterintelligence Protection Team. It also directs appropriate engagement with international partners on quantum matters.

STRENGTHENING AMERICA’S QUANTUM ADVANTAGE: President Trump recognizes that quantum technologies are on the verge of a massive commercial breakthrough and require a bold new policy approach to ensure America continues to lead the field. 

  • Quantum technologies, like a quantum computer or a quantum sensor, will provide transformational capabilities in manufacturing, drug discovery, energy, agriculture, and more. These breakthroughs will drive American innovation, power economic growth, generate high-paying jobs in existing and entirely new industries, and bolster national security.
  • Competing nations are moving quickly to challenge America’s quantum leadership, including adversarial countries that would use quantum to undermine U.S. economic and national security.
  • The Order ensures that the United States enters this new era of quantum innovation with ambitious national goals, a strong domestic workforce, and trusted supply chains in coordination with our international allies and partners. 

FURTHERING AMERICA’S TECHNOLOGICAL DOMINANCE: President Trump continues to prioritize U.S. leadership and dominance in critical and emerging sciences and technologies.

  • In 2018, President Trump signed the National Quantum Initiative Act into law, establishing the first whole-of-government strategy for American leadership in quantum. 
  • President Trump was the first president to identify quantum as an emerging research and development priority for the nation, resulting in a doubling of the Federal research and development budget for quantum. 
  • In January 2025, President Trump announced the establishment of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology to spearhead American innovation and competitiveness in critical and emerging technologies.
  • In November 2025, President Trump signed an Executive Order launching the Genesis Mission, a new national effort to use artificial intelligence to transform how scientific research is conducted and accelerate the speed of scientific discoveries across multiple fields, including quantum.
  • The Trump Administration has invested $625 million so far in major national quantum research institutes, in partnership with industry and academia.

Needless to say, I’m pleased as punch with all of this.

While quantum computing got off to a slow and bumpy start in roughly 1981, it has now gotten to the point where it has to be taken seriously. There is definitely some “there” there – and our VSG is absolutely right to be getting on it. Just like he has been on the ball with AI. It’s just great to have a PRO in the White House!

And that’s just the beginning. Quantum sensors are mentioned, too – and yet THAT is still just the beginning. Because QUANTUM is deeper, wider, and longer than anybody can imagine – in my scientific opinion. Feynman really recognized this, and – along with some other scientists who I always trust – I always trust Feynman!

So when Feynman said that nobody understood quantum mechanics – well – I trust that. I’ve watched many, many, brilliant people HELP everybody else to try to understand it, over my lifetime, and THAT is where we really are. It is a group project of all of humanity, to try to understand quantum mechanics. And we’re getting closer all the time.

But still…..

But before we get into that, let’s finish up with the Executive Order, which happens to be Number 14413 (not a prime number, it is the product of 7 x 29 x 71).

LINK: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/ushering-in-the-next-frontier-of-quantum-innovation/

This EO is rather lengthy, and includes some interesting things not mentioned in the overview.

I will include the first 4 sections and some of the 5th section.


Executive Order 14413

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1.  Purpose.  America stands at the cusp of a quantum revolution.  Quantum information science and technology (QIST) will provide transformational capabilities that will drive American innovation, power economic growth, generate high-paying jobs, and bolster national security.  In 2018, I laid the foundation for United States leadership in QIST by signing into law the National Quantum Initiative Act and doubling Federal investment in QIST research and development.  Today, as other nations move quickly to challenge American leadership, the United States must take a cohesive, whole-of-government approach to accelerate deployment and commercialization of quantum computing, sensing, and networking.

In addition to continuing trailblazing quantum research, we must act to solidify the Nation’s position as the world’s QIST superpower and deliver the commercial and research benefits of quantum innovation to the American people.  Equally important, we must protect sensitive technologies and work with allies to ensure adversaries cannot use QIST to undermine national security.

Sec. 2.  Policy.  It is the policy of my Administration to ensure that the United States maintains a strategic technical advantage in QIST and leads the development of a robust and trusted quantum ecosystem across QIST research, manufacturing, commercialization, and application.

Sec. 3.  Updating the National Quantum Strategy.  (a)  Within 180 days of the date of this order, the Assistant to the President for Science and Technology (APST), in coordination with the Secretary of War, the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Energy, the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), and the Director of the National Science Foundation (NSF), and in consultation with the Co-Chairs of the National Science and Technology Council Subcommittees on Quantum Information Science (SCQIS) and Economic and Security Implications of Quantum Information Science (ESIX), shall update the National Quantum Strategy (Strategy) with policies intended to support the maturing QIST ecosystem, including promoting commercialization and deployment of QIST, supporting the quantum-enabling technology ecosystem, and encouraging partnerships with United States industry.

(b)  Within 30 days of the date of the publication of the updated Strategy, relevant executive departments and agencies (agencies) shall each submit to the APST and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) a summary of steps taken to align their processes, policies, and programs with the Strategy.

Sec. 4.  Harnessing Quantum Computing for Scientific Applications.  (a)  There is hereby established the Quantum Computer for Application Development and Discovery Science (QC-ADDS) Effort, which shall be coordinated by the APST.  This national effort shall pursue development of a quantum computer at a scale intended to initiate the era of quantum-enabled scientific discovery, with the intent to deliver at least one such computer to a Department of Energy facility and, to the extent possible, make it available to the scientific community.

(b)  The Secretary of War, the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Energy, the DNI, the Director of NSF, and the heads of other relevant agencies as appropriate, in consultation with the Director of OMB, shall ensure that relevant capabilities, manufacturing infrastructure, and expertise are made available to support the QC-ADDS Effort to the extent practicable, and shall deploy these resources towards exploration of quantum-computer-enabled capabilities for commercial, government, and national security applications.  Additionally, the APST shall coordinate with the Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the Director of the National Security Agency (NSA), and the heads of other relevant agencies to identify additional actions to enhance the QC-ADDS Effort.

(c)  Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Energy, in coordination with the APST and the heads of other relevant agencies, shall identify the technical specifications required for a QC-ADDS to perform transformative scientific applications that are on a path towards economically significant applications and beyond current classical computer capabilities, and shall publicly release a summary of those specifications, as appropriate.

(d)  Within 180 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Energy, in consultation with the Director of OMB, shall explore potential private-sector partnership models to understand the potential cost, scope, and time frame for delivery of at least one QC-ADDS as described in subsection (a) of this section.  Further, the Secretary of Commerce shall develop a plan, potentially including advance market commitments, to encourage contributions to the QC-ADDS Effort from commercial quantum computing companies.  Finally, the Secretary of War shall establish or designate activities and programs to develop the tools and capabilities necessary to advance readiness for national security applications of quantum computing, potentially including the establishment of a center for such purpose.

(e)  To provide for the robust assessment of the QC-ADDS’ and other quantum computing systems’ capabilities, within 180 days of the date of this order:

(i)   the Secretary of Energy, in consultation with the Secretary of War and the Secretary of Commerce, shall establish a national center to develop the tools and capabilities required to accurately assess the performance of quantum computing systems; and

(ii)  the Co-Chairs of the ESIX Subcommittee shall recommend to the APST a mechanism to facilitate information-sharing between relevant agencies to improve the Government’s ability to assess commercial quantum computing capabilities.

(f)  The DNI and the Secretary of War, in coordination with the Co-Chairs of the ESIX Subcommittee and in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Commerce, and the Secretary of Energy, shall identify the national security implications of the increasing scale and performance of commercial quantum computers, such as the implications for the migration to post-quantum cryptography.

Sec. 5.  Deploying Quantum-Enabled Sensors and Networks.  (a)  Within 60 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of War shall identify at least three next-generation quantum sensor projects to prioritize in order to field these sensors by September 30, 2028.


I love that “Quantum Information Science and Technology” is abbreviated as “QIST” (as in Qist).

Why, I may know a few Qists!

So all of this Quantum stuff in the end of June was exciting, but things were about to heat up even more, with the 250th Anniversary of our Nation!

On July 4, Elon Musk began retweeting a “brilliant” (his word) patriotic music video by cyber artist “Heavy Pulp”, originally released on June 30, with an AI-assisted song called “Sweet Land”.

This amazing video is one long tribute to America, the American people, the military, the Q mythos, and what is best described as “quantum science fiction”. I’ve taken to calling this video a “quantumpunk opera” – because that comes closer to describing what it is, than anything else I can think of.

“Quantum” per se is even mentioned in the lyrics, which were compiled by Astute Actual on X.

Watch for the Q memes – they’re everywhere in both the lyrics and the video.

Sweet Land
by: Heavy Pulp
@heavypulp
on X

Sweet land, sweet land of the weary and wild.
Oh where, oh where are you, my sweet (child) (some hear John?)

The garden’s either dying or about to come alive.
The river’s either drying or it’s deep enough to dive.
Can’t tell if it’s the dusk or if it’s breaking into dawn.
Are we going on or are we going, going, gone?

Somebody said a storm is coming, but it’s been a long, long time.
I don’t know what’s up ahead, but please baby, don’t you look behind.
So tell me, is it going to be free energy forever, or just the same…damn…old…grind?

Singing, (sweet land) sweet land of the weary and the wild.
Are we one year from the grave, or is this just the beginning, my sweet child?
Oh, you’re my star-spangled fever dream, half a savior, half a liar.
250 Summers and we’re going higher, higher, higher.

Singing, (sweet land, sweet land) going, going, gone?

The neighbors might be coming with a casserole or a gun.
The kids are either screaming or they’re laughing in the sun.
Is the timeline coming undone, or is it coming in clear?
The fireworks are blinding, but I’ll keep on dancing here.

And nobody can promise me that we’re going to make it to the light.
So is it an awakening, or is this a knife in the night?
So come on brother, sister, stand up tall, because guess what?
Where we go one, we go all!

If you can hear this
from the other side,
across this great quantum divide,
don’t get me wrong,
now is the time to stay strong.
So with all of that I’ll say,
God bless the USA.
God bless the USA.

Singing, sweet land, going on, soaring on.
250 years and it’s going on, on and on.
On the edge of a forever or the edge of being gone.
Is it midnight? Is it morning? Is it ruin? (ruing?)
Is it time to rise?

250 summers gone by,
so just go on and tell me those sweet lies.
The kind as sweet as these Julys.

(Sweet land, sweet land) Going on and going on,
(sweet land, sweet land) I got to “Fight, Fight, Fight” (FIRE).
(Fire – Fire).

(Sweet land, sweet land) going on, going on.
(Sweet land, sweet land) going, going, gone.

So please, just know that we can still rebuild.
We can still make something… Better.

The video features numerous Stargate-style “portals” and other sci-fi references that are all deeply tied in the video to Q-related memes. There is absolutely no holding back. There is even a Q drop number (4559) with the correct date featured in one scene…..

…..as well as a clock that references a variety of fascinating things in Q world. One can find some explanations of these things in replies surrounding the video and its various re-posts by Musk and others.

There is one “proof” related to the clock that I find rather convincing, but I’m still trying to wrap my head around it.

I may do a more dedicated post to the “quantumpunk opera” at a later time. In any case, I really enjoy the song, which is $0.99 on Apple Music and other platforms.

LINK: https://music.apple.com/us/album/sweet-land-single/6785407385

The White House wasn’t the only part of the government having fun with Q memes and Quantumania. Check these out.

Let’s look more closely at that!

The replies on this next one are extremely interesting.

This image portal theme and the tagline message were brazenly and happily stolen from the anons who were researching the MH370 plane disappearance. The discussion by the anons in the replies is highly recommended.

Heavy Pulp even caught this one, noting in his reply that we’re now “portal-maxxing”! LOL!

They are having fun with us, for sure!

And, oh yeah, about that invisible character…..

Anons figured out quickly that was a message about Q clearance, via drop 48.

“Comms”. Ya gotta love ’em!


That’s enough for now. Hopefully, you understand why I think this site need to be up-to-date on the latest “Q” stuff – and that means a higher-than-average group understanding of all things quantum.

I am going to do a background post on quantum science, for y’all, very soon, and it will be surprisingly free of math.

Until then, take care, and have a great weekend!

W

KMAG DAILY THREAD 20260708 MK Ultra & the CIA

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Just for fun: (Looks like the wild horses are a better solution.)

The following information validates some of the information I learned from Colonel Towner.

Rough Transcript from an Economic Times video. 15 minutes

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: What did you learn about MK Naomi, and do you believe its activities were even more serious than what we know about MK Ultra?

Dr Kinzer: The MK Ultra project was aimed at seizing control of the minds of individuals. The Army was interested in something different, which was trying to use biological agents in warfare against entire populations. So, MK Naomi is the place where these two goals overlap.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: Did you find direct documentation between Paperclip scientists and the development of MK Ultra’s experimental protocols, specifically the use of mescaline, hypnosis, and sensory deprivation?

Dr Kinzer: I found what I think might be the first secret CIA prison or black site. It’s a nice chalet in Germany. These were the cells where the MK Ultra officers, working side by side with Nazis, uh carried out those gruesome experiments.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: These experiments were happening after the Nuremberg trials, correct? So, the CIA would have known that these were crimes against humanity. Um my first question is for Mr. O’Neill. MK Naomi, the joint CIA Army program that ran parallel with MK Ultra at Fort Detrick, appears to have been run with deliberate minimal documentation. Um Army records on Special Operations Division have apparently been destroyed. In your investigation, what did you learn about MK Naomi, and do you believe its activities were even more serious than what we know about MK Ultra?

Mr. O’Neill: I’m sorry. I didn’t learn anything about those operations. I kept my focus mostly on Dr. West and his work. I do know that the only reason I found the documents I found was cuz Dr. West accidentally left them in his papers, and he probably did that because he corresponded with Gottlieb under Gottlieb’s assigned alias, which was Sherman Grifford, and he addressed all his mail to a post office box here under Foss Cut Corporation.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: Thank you, Mr. I’m just going to real quick go to Dr. Kinzer. Are you aware of anything that exists with MK Naomi in your research? And if you could please press the button.

Dr Kinzer: My understanding My understanding of MK Naomi is that it was a joint project between the military and the CIA. And there’s a big difference because the MK Ultra project was aimed [music] at seizing control of the minds of individuals. The army was interested in something different, which was trying to use biological agents in warfare against entire populations. So, MK Naomi is the place where these two goals overlapped.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: And that was the 1953 Frank Olson death. Was that in a way tied to that? from some chatter that we had seen in

Dr Kinzer: Exactly what the motivation was behind the decision about Frank Olson, if there was such a decision, is unknown.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: My next question is also for you, sir. Operation Paperclip brought over 1,600 German scientists into the United States government after World War II, including individuals who had conducted human experimentation in concentration camps. The CIA and military were aware of their backgrounds and recruited them anyways. In your research, did you find direct documentation between Paperclip scientists and the development of MK Ultra’s experimental protocols, specifically the use of mescaline, hypnosis, and sensory deprivation, which were techniques also documented at Dachau?

Dr Kinzer: Absolutely. Um Kurt Blome, who was the chief of biological weapons development for the Nazi government, came to work for the CIA. So did Walter Schreiber, who was the surgeon general of the Nazi army. Um I can just tell a a brief story. When I was researching my book, I found what I think might be the first secret CIA prison or black site. It’s a nice chalet in Germany. And the guy who now owns it took me into the basement. He said these were the cells where the MK Ultra officers, working side by side with Nazis, uh carried out those gruesome experiments, which were actually just continuations of the experiments that those Nazis had been conducting just a few years earlier right down the road.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: Just for timeline and clarification, these experiments were happening after the Nuremberg trials, correct? So, the CIA would have known that these were crimes against humanity.

Dr Kinzer: [4:20] I looked for an episode in which the Nuremberg doctrines were posted on the wall in some MK Ultra or CIA office, and I was never able to find any indication that those Nuremberg principles ever were even consulted, much less obeyed.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: Thank you. My next question would be for either witness to comment, Dr. Kinzer or Mr. O’Neill. Both witnesses have written about the site psychiatrist Louis Jolly West. Sydney Gottlieb ran MK Ultra program for the CIA, hired West as a contractor to conduct research for sub-project 43, combining hypnotism, drugs, and sensory deprivation to create dis-associative states in which, to quote Mr. Kinzer in his book Poisoner in Chief, the human mind could be pulled away from its moorings. Following the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, West psychiatrically examined Jack Ruby, then in prison for murdering… Lee Harvey Oswald, the assassin accused um of murdering President Kennedy. A report emerged from West’s examination said that Ruby had suffered an acute psychotic break. Can you explain why Dr. West in particular was chosen to conduct an examination of Jack Ruby alone in his jail cell with no other psychologist present?

Mr O’Neill: Be happy to. West inserted himself into the case of Ruby.. the day after the shooting, West approached the judge in the preliminary hearings and asked to be assigned to the case. He was refused by the judge. After Ruby was convicted at his first trial, an associate of West, Dr. Hubert Winston Smith, who was a psychiatrist and an attorney, took over Ruby’s defense for his appeal, and he had already discussed appointing.. West to the case. And as you said, West examined Ruby alone at the jail cell and emerged to announce that in the preceding 48 hours he had had a acute psychotic break from which he would never recover. He had been declared incompetent to stand trial in his the first time by a panel of I think eight psychiatrists. This psychotic break lasted until his death in 1967. Two months after West examined him, Ruby testified for the first time, and only time to the Warren Commission, and it was the first time he ever publicly was supposed to say what his reasons were for his shooting Oswald. The testimony had to be halted cuz he was babbling incoherently. As Allen Inspector, who was a counsel to the commission, wrote in his memoirs, he pulled him aside and said that they were cutting off the arms and legs of children in Albuquerque and El Paso, and he said he was making no sense whatsoever. West in his letters to Gottlieb from 1953 discussed experiments where he would induce specific mental disorders in people without their awareness. A year before the Kennedy assassination, he publicly spoke in Oklahoma City and talked about his LSD experiments inducing psychiatric breaks and psychosis in people with the use of LSD, which he of course later contradicted, when he told the New York Times he never used LSD in animal experimentation.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: What an interesting connection. I might have time but I’ll be now recognizing Mr. Burlison from Missouri for 5 minutes.

[7:54]

Mr. Burlison: Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you for your diligent work on this and hopefully we will hear back from the CIA on those boxes of documents that have so many questions about. Dr. Kinzer and Mr. O’Neill the CIA created MK Ultra in 1953 supposedly out of fear that the Soviet Union and China had developed mind control capabilities. Let me go back a little bit further. So one of my questions has to do with the event that happened in 1951 in August in France. There was a bakery that I guess the people that lived in that community over 250 some say 300 people were poisoned from the bread. It was determined that that was LSD that was causing all of these people to hallucinate. Some people died. Is there any connection Dr. Kinzer to that event and was that something that either inspired the MK Ultra program or the MK Naomi program or is that something that we were involved in even that early on?

Dr Kinzer: I would turn that question back to you. I don’t think anybody really knows the full story of what happened at that time in that town in France. That the United States could have been involved, that this could have been part of what was then called Operation Artichoke, the predecessor for MK Ultra seems to me not beyond the realm of possibility. There’s a lot of overlap between the ergot enzyme that is the basis of LSD and certain rye and wheat fungus that can be used in breads. Was that something intentional? Was it something the Americans were involved in? I have my suspicions, but just based on my background as a journalist, I don’t operate on suspicions. So, I would love to see more investigation of that episode.

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Comment on Ergot Poisoning. It is worth a quick look because it describes the symptoms.

Debunking the “Moldy Bread” Theory – Salem Witch Museum

In her excellent lecture “The Salem Witch Trials and Ergot, the ‘Moldy Bread’ Hypothesis,” historian Margot Burns describes a conversation with Linnda Caporael about the publication of this article.

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Mr. Burlison: My next question has to do with once the program began. I think one of the most shocking things that we determined is that Operation Midnight Climax that occurred in the early 1950s, ’60s, where the CIA had safe houses. And there was Dr. Kinzer, I mean this obviously extremely disturbing behavior that was happening where you had American citizens who were being lured into these brothels and then dosed with a hallucinogenic and then filmed during their sex acts. Was there anyone prosecuted for this for these crimes?

Dr Kinzer: No, there have been no prosecutions for any crime related to MKUltra as far as I know. To me, the remarkable aspect of Operation Midnight Climax was that there wasn’t even the pretense of scientific experimentation. The person watching behind the one-way mirror was a grossly overweight drug officer sitting on a portable toilet and drinking cocktails out of a pitcher. There was nobody there that was a scientist or somebody who had understood sexual behavior or human psychology. So, there was no science involved in it at all. I can add a little footnote. When I was researching Poisoner in Chief, I came across a document in which one of the officers involved in setting up that program, Operation Midnight Climax, said that Sidney Gottlieb himself used to fly from Washington out to inspect the project regularly and always asked that women be provided for him. So…. [Interrupts]

Mr. Burlison: That was my next question. Do you think that the agents were involved in the sexual encounters?

Dr Kinzer: Well, could that have actually been the reason why the bordello was opened? There was no prospect of any serious scientific result out of that project given the personnel who were overseeing it. So, those CIA officers, particularly Gottlieb, involved in overseeing Operation Midnight Climax, certainly were able to take advantage of what it offered.

Mr. Burlison: Thank you. And my my last question, first I want to say thank you to Mr. O’Neill. The book Chaos, I checked it out from the Library of Congress. and [I] greatly appreciate your work there. I was intrigued by one of the statements that you made based on your research that the MKUltra program, they were actually successfully able to replace memories. And because of that, I’m wondering if And Dr. Kinzer, you can chime in if you have any knowledge of this. Did the program continue? And do you think that the program in some aspect is still continuing today?

Mr O’Neill: You’re asking if the program continued after 1973 when it was halted supposedly. That’s a question I’m asked at almost every appearance I do. Is it happening today? Did it continue? I don’t know. I can’t imagine that it didn’t though because the technology that they worked to establish over 20, 25 years and spent more money on than any operation the CIA ever conducted was successful. I imagine it’s being used. I have no evidence of it being used, so it’s a complete assumption.

Dr Kinzer: I would just add that one of the letters to which Mr. O’Neill referred contains a quote from Mr. Gottlieb saying that these experiments were necessary quote in these times. I think it’s important to put yourself back in that mindset where the United States felt that it was under such overwhelming threat that the loss of a few lives or a few hundred lives was a small price to pay. Commitment to a great cause is one of the most fundamental justifications for committing immoral acts, and patriotism is among the most noble of causes. It can be twisted, and it can be used as an excuse to carry out research under the guise that this is simply research we’re doing to protect ourselves against others, and I think that is a mindset that may still be active in some parts of our government.

Mr. Burlison: Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, Madam Chair. My time has expired. I yield back.

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FULL MKULTRA HEARING: 1 hour 27 minutes

The House Oversight Committee’s Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets held a hearing entitled, “Mind Control and Accountability: Uncovering the Truth of the CIA’s MKULTRA Project.”

INTRODUCTION:

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna: Task force on declassification of federal secrets will come to order. Welcome everyone. Without objection, the chair may declare a recess at any time.

I recognize myself for the purpose of making an opening statement. This hearing is about the crimes committed by the Central Intelligence Agency against the American citizens and the decades of secrecy used to conceal them. The American people deserve a complete and truthful record. The victims and their families deserve acknowledgment, and this Congress has a constitutional obligation to ensure that full declassification is not delayed any longer. Project MK Ultra was not a policy failure or an overzealous program that got out of hand. It was a deliberate systematic governmental operation that subjected American citizens, prisoners, hospital patients, veterans, ordinary people to LSD, electroshock, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, psychological torture without their knowledge or consent. This went on for 20 years on American soil, funded by American taxpayer dollars, and authorized by the very top of US intelligence apparatus. And this program, when it did end, the men who ran it did not cooperate with investigators. They did not come forward. They committed another crime. They destroyed evidence.

The documents this task force has reviewed are unambiguous. In January 1973, the director of the CIA, Richard Helms, prepared to leave office. He personally ordered the destruction of MK Ultra records. The CIA official document in writing states, “Over my stated objectives, the MK Ultra files were destroyed by the order of DCI Mr. Helms shortly before his departure from office. A separate internal account confirms that Helms telephoned Dr. Gottlieb directly and instructed him to destroy quote all files pertaining to drug research and associated activities. Gottlieb compiled. Four people spent an entire day tearing burning down 152 files. Then Gottlieb had his personal papers destroyed by his secretary before he retired. The head of the CIA own records center protested the destruction in writing, but he was overruled. That is obstruction of justice. That is criminal destruction of federal records.

And neither individuals were ever charged with a crime for it. Helms received a $2,000 fine for lying to Congress about an unrelated manner and collected his government pension until he died. Gottlieb retired in rural Virginia and wrote poetry. No one went to prison.

No victim was ever formally compensated by the government for the harm that they caused. By 1975, the Church Committee and the Rockefeller Commission had already established through sworn testimony and the surviving 1963 Inspector General report that MK Ultra existed and that the CIA had run a program of human experimentation on unwitting Americans. The scope and detail of what we know today is largely because of an accident. In 1977, an archivist diligently complying with a foyer request discovered seven boxes of MK Ultra financial records that had been misfiled and escaped the bonfire. Those seven boxes included the names of institutions, the name of sub projects, the researchers who participated, the specific operation that the CIA had funded, and without them, the vast majority of MK Ultra would only be a rumor, just as Helms and Gottlieb intended. Those seven boxes revealed the MK Ultra comprised at least 149 sub projects, operated across more than 80 institutions, and involved 185 non-government researchers.

They revealed that the CIA covertly contributed $375,000 to a hospital research wing, which was approved directly by DCI Allen Dulles, with Richard Helms concurrence, so the agency could use unwitting patients as experimental subjects in what their own documents called a hospital safe house. The CIA’s own inspector general said in 1963, his classified report concluded that the program had exceeded the agency’s legal chapter and covert testing on unwitting subjects placed the rights and interests of US citizens in jeopardy. The program ran for a decade that we know of and they ignored their own watchdog.

Let me be clear [about] what I believe that we are dealing with here. Administering drugs to people without their knowledge or consent, subjecting humans to psychological torture and using prisoners and hospital patients as nonconsenting research subjects. These are crimes against humanity. The Central Intelligence Agency committed them and then the director of the CIA ordered the destruction of evidence. Today we will hear from two witnesses who have spent years unraveling the cover up that our government ordered. Steven Kzer documented the life and crimes of Sydney Gottlieb in his uh book prisoner of chief and Tom O’Neill spent over 20 years investigating what the CIA buried and what they obscured that in my mind constitutes some of the worst notorious crimes against humanity in the 20th century. Their persistence in the research in this hearing is possible simply because they are patriots. The American people deserve the complete record. The victims and their families deserve acknowledgment, accountability, and justice. And this Congress has a constitutional obligation to make sure that the CIA never does this again.

With that, I’m going to be opening up first questions, and I’ll hold my question to the end, to Representative Berles. Before I do pass it, I did want to just note a few weeks ago, we did receive reports. There was some back and forth regarding the CIA and ODI pertaining to new MK Ultra boxes that were discovered. Myself and Representative Berles did go down to Langley. We did meet with the CIA and the CIA is currently in the process of declassifying newly found documentation. although the documents, and I feel comfortable enough to share it here, pertain specifically to a forgery program that was being housed under MK Ultra. So as soon as those files are released, we will be putting out notification with your help to also comb through some of the newly released documents, but I did want to give you a quick update.

There were three witnesses:

Dr Elizabet Ginexi,

independent Consultant and former Senior Program officer at the National Institute of Health

Dr Kinzer author of: Poisoner in Chief, Sydney Gottlieb and the CIA’s Search for Mind Control

Mr. O’Neill author of: Chaos, Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret history of the 60s

At 8 minutes Dr Stephen Kinszer’s opening statement.

Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Let me begin by expressing my gratitude to this task force for confronting the enormous issue of over classification of government documents and the culture of secrecy that enables it. I’m especially gratified by your interest in MK Ultra, the project the CIA carried out through the 1950s in an attempt to find the secret of mind control. MK Ultra was one of the most secret government programs in American history. The chemist who directed it, Sydney Gottlieb, lived in total anonymity. My book, Poisoner and Chief, may be the most complete account of MK Ultra that exists in public, but I’m painfully aware that I have discovered only a small portion of what MK Ultra was and what Sydney Gottlieb did. In 1951, the CIA hired Gottlieb and directed him to launch what became MK Ultra. Gottlieb believed that in order to find a way to implant a new mind into someone’s brain, you first had to find a way to destroy the mind that was in there already.

In its search for ways to destroy a human mind and body, MK Ultra conducted the most extreme experiments on human beings that have ever been carried out by a US government agency. By any standard, they qualify as medical torture. These experiments took place in prisons, clinics, and safe houses in the United States, in Europe, in Asia, and even in Latin America. Officers of MK Ultra were authorized to travel to foreign countries, preferably those under formal or informal US occupation, and ask the local CIA station to provide them with expendables, human beings who would not be missed if they disappeared. Gottlieb had what amounted to a license to kill issued by the US government. Neither the number of MK Ultra victims nor the number of those who were experimented to death is known.

Gottlieb as a result of this license to kill might have been the most powerful unknown American of the 20th century. Some information about MK Ultra spilled out during the 1970s, but senior CIA officers had intentionally let Gottlieb operate without supervision. So they were able to claim that they knew nothing about his excesses. This was a way for the CIA to deny its institutional role in MK Ultra and to portray it misleadingly as the product of one man’s sadism or excessive zeal. Investigating MK Ultra is challenging because when Gottlieb and his mentor Richard Helms left the CIA in 1973, they illegally ordered that its records be destroyed. Soon afterwards, under DCI Stansfield Turner, a CIA analyst, as you pointed out, Madame Chairman, discovered a cache of MK Ultra documents hidden among financial records. Turner credited that analyst with doing a very diligent job of Sherlock Holmesing. That same diligence I believe could bring results today.

One of the great mysteries of MK Ultra has to do with the death in 1953 of an MK Ultra scientist Frank Olsen who had announced his intention to quit the project. His plunge from a New York hotel room was described in the press as the suicide of an army scientist. He was not an army scientist. He worked for the CIA and evidence suggests that his death may have not have been a suicide. So there could be hidden documents that could illuminate this case.

I would also point out that in addition to searching for unknown documents, this committee could do a tremendous service by simply asking for the end of redactions on the documents that we now have. There are reams of documents about MK Ultra that have heavy sections redacted. In the 1970s, this was justified by the argument that it had only been 20 years since these terrible things had happened and revealing details might affect national security. Now, 70 years have passed. That argument can no longer be valid. So, I would urge this committee to try to fill out all the blank spaces in the documents that we have because we know that is there. This task force could also consider trying to determine whether some new incarnation of MK Ultra exists today. When the main phase of MK Ultra drew to a close in the early 1960s, Sydney Gottlieb concluded that it had failed. That in fact there is no such thing as mind control. Even if he was right, however, he may have been right only at that time. In the many decades since then, there have been enormous advances in cyber technology, in artificial intelligence, in neuroscience. Covert agencies may have access now to tools for mind control that Sydney Gottlieb could not even have imagined. It may well have been true in 1963 that mind control is a myth, but whether it’s still true is uncertain. And that question of whether mind control might now be possible under our new circumstances is something that has presumably occurred to scientists who work for secret services, including our own.

This task force has a chance to connect the past to the future. A renewed effort to find MK Ultra documents from the 1950s and to fill out the redactions of those that have been released might shed new light on how the CIA operated during that period. It could also inform a new inquiry into whether any mind control projects are now underway inside the US security apparatus that might help prevent the emergence of a 21st century MK Ultra that could be even more destructive than the original. Thank you.

Tom O’Neill’s opening statement.

Thank you, Chairwoman Luna and members of the committee. It’s a privilege to be here today. Almost 50 years ago, the last congressional hearings into MK Ultra took place just a short walk from here in the Dirks Senate Office Building. At those hearings convened in August and September of 1977, representatives of the CIA told Congress and the American people that its 25-year effort to control human behavior had been a colossal failure. I believe Congress was never told the truth about what this program actually achieved. In fact, I believe the agency misled Congress in 1977 when it characterized MK Ultra as a failure. My name is Tom O’Neill and in 1999 I accepted a magazine assignment to write a story about murders committed by a group of hippies called the Manson family. For those unfamiliar with this horrific episode of American history, in the summer of 1969, four young people acting on the orders of a cult leader named Charles Manson, went to the home of movie director Roman Polanski and murdered everyone they found there, including his eight and a half month pregnant wife, the actress Sharon Tate. The victims were complete strangers to their killers. The following night, Manson’s followers murdered another couple in the same grizzly fashion. At the time I accepted the assignment, I’d never heard of MK Ultra, and I wouldn’t for another two years. After I’d missed countless deadlines, lost the assignment, and fall fallen down a nightmarish rabbit hole trying to answer the question I couldn’t quite shake. How had Manson, a barely literate ex-con, acquired the ability to persuade ordinary young people to murder complete strangers simply because he had told them to?

The pursuit of the answer to that question led me to Dr. Lewis Jolian West, known to his friends as Jolly. West was one of the most influential psychiatrists in America. During his career, he crossed paths with some of the most controversial events of the 20th century, including the Patty Hurst kidnapping case and the aftermath of the John F. Kennedy assassination investigation. In 1977, West was one of seven academic researchers named in a front page New York Times story alleging that the CIA had used American universities, hospitals, and prisons as secret laboratories for experiments involving LSD and other drugs on unwitting human subjects. West vigorously denied the allegations. He acknowledged that the agency had approached him but insisted he had refused because he said LSD was too dangerous and unpredictable to be used on humans. He added that he limited all of his research with LSD to animals. The revelations in the Times led directly to the congressional hearings held later that year. West denials, however, were effective. He was never investigated and his name never came up at the hearings.

I’ll spare you the long and tedious story of how my Manson reporting led me to West except to say that I eventually learned that in 1967 when Manson transformed into the cult leader we are familiar with today, he and his followers were receiving free medical care at a clinic in San Francisco where West had established a base of operations for a research project he was conducting nearby. After becoming intrigued by the allegations against West, I learned that UCLA, his last academic home, had inherited his paper following his death in 1999.

Nearly two months and more than 200 boxes later, I found the proverbial needle in a hay stack, correspondence between West and Dr. Sydney Gottlieb, the architect of MK Ultra. The letters begin in 1953, just two months after CIA director Alan Dulles authorized the program and while West was stationed at the Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, where he was chief chief psychiatrist at the base hospital. In his first letter to Gottlieb, West proposed conducting experiments on unwitting human subjects, including military personnel, prisoners, and psychiatric patients at the base hospital. He then outlined the experiments themselves in six more pages that could have been written by Josef Mengele Using LSD in combination with hypnosis, West purposed inducing confusion, amnesia, and specific mental disorders in people who would remember nothing of their interaction with him afterward. He sought to develop techniques to extract true information and implant false information in unwilling subjects and to alter the attitudes and beliefs of quote previously loyal individuals. In other words, to completely switch their allegiance from one group or leader to another.

But it was another sentence at the end of that letter that stopped me cold. These experiments, he wrote, must eventually be put to test in practical trials in the field. Gottlieb’s response could hardly have been more enthusiastic. My good friend, he wrote, I had been wondering whether your apparent rapid and comprehensive grasp of our problems could possibly be real. You have indeed developed an admirably accurate picture of exactly what we are after. West replied that there was no more vital undertaking conceivable in these times. There was another document in West papers that had even more significant implications. It was a 14-page report that West wrote in 1956, just three years after he contracted with the CIA. In the report, West described administering LSD and other drugs in conjunction with hypnosis on unwitting human subjects. And then he made a remarkable claim. He announced that he had learned how to replace true memories with false memories on people without their knowledge. In other words, he clarified, it has been found to be feasible to take the memory of a definite event in the life of an individual and through hypnotic suggestion bring about the subsequent conscious recall to the effect that this event never actually took place, but that a different fictional event actually did occur. If West report was accurate, this was not the failure agency officials described in 1977. Quite the opposite. It was in fact the central ambition of the MK Ultra operation, the means of gaining the ability to seize the control of a person’s perceptions, memories, and ultimately their behavior.

But there was still one more discovery, and this time I found it in the National Security Archives at George Washington University. the official repository of the CIA’s MK Ultra records, which were released to Congress after the 1977 hearings. In those holdings was a different versions of West 1956 report. The original paper had been replaced by a four-page summary that did not exist in West files and appears to have been written by someone else. Here his claims about replacing memories were gone. in their place was a theoretical discussion of LSD and disassociative states. The versions supplied to Congress concluded that the effects of LSD and similar drugs on disassociative states had, and I’m quoting, never been studied. Never been studied. In the original report, West discusses observations from his own experiments, including detailed descriptions of using LSD to, as he wrote, speed the induction of the hypnotic state and deepen the trance in subjects. Those passages have been removed in the report turned over to Congress. The discrepancy could not have been more stark. Nearly 50 years ago, another congressional committee believed it had been given the truth about MK Ultra. It had not. In conclusion, I respectfully submit that these records, some newly available, and others that remained outside the government’s disclosure for decades, weren’t a thorough re-examination of what the program accomplished, what Congress was told, and what may still remain hidden. I’m happy to provide the documents I’ve referenced today and I’ve provided many additional details in my written testimony.

Dr Elizabeth Ginexi opening statement. [BOY is she angry her cushy job got smacked!] I debated on whether or not to add her opening statement since I do not see how it has anything to do with MK Ultra … What is glorious is at 47:20 she gets called out on just that AND Covid.

Chairman Luna, and distinguished members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today. I’m a health research scientist with a master’s and doctoral degrees in psychology from the George Washington University. I spent 22 years from 2003 to 2025 as a scientific program official at the National Institutes of Health, managing more than $132 million in health research grants and co-authoring 18 federal funding programs. I left the NIH in April of 2025. I’m here today because what is happening to NIH right now is not reform. It is the replacement of scientific judgment with political control. [She is talking about Robert Kennedy]

For 80 years, US federal investment in biomedical research produced outcomes that no private market would have funded. Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the United States. NIH funded research on blood pressure, cholesterol, and smoking drove a 56% decline in heart disease between 1950 and 1996. Cancer has been transformed. treatments for breast, lung, prostate, and childhood cancers along with immunotherapies that converted previously fatal diagnoses into manageable conditions traced directly to NIH funded research. HIV AIDS were a death sentence in 1981. No pharmaceutical company saw a profitable market for treatment. NIH ran the trials that no one else would run. The result was antiretroviral therapy and preexposure prophylaxis. Global AIDS deaths have fallen 54% since 2010.

Rare diseases that affect 30 million Americans get studied at the NIH because no market will fund that research. Every dollar that’s appropriated to the National Institutes of Health generates $246 in economic output. NIH supported work contributed to 354 of the 356 new drugs that the FDA approved between 2010 and 2019. Cutting the funding source of that pipeline does not slow it. It ends it. The proposed OM federal financial assistance rule would give political appointees authority to terminate funded grants at any time without cause, including ongoing clinical trials with enrolled patients. This is not a hypothetical. NIH has already terminated or frozen thousands of grants, including hundreds of ongoing clinical trials since January 2025, concentrated in infectious disease, vaccine, and health disparities research. This proposed rule will make that authority permanent. The NIH director has eliminated the merit score thresholds that once protected peer review and political appointees are right now overriding peer review outcomes to screen grants for alignment with administrative pri priorities.

The proposed OM rule will also severely restrict international research. We’re managing an H5N1 blue bird flu outbreak that has more than 70 documented human cases. We recently concluded a hivirus response that required CDC scientists working alongside Argentine counterparts. The current Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo is now the third largest on record and is outpacing containment efforts. This rule will curtail exactly that kind of cooperation that we need. NIH lost 1,112 PhD trained workers from 2025 to early 26. More than half of the NIH institutes right now are operating without permanent scientific leadership. The majority of its advisory councils required by statute to provide independent oversight have lost more than half of their members. The fundamental choice before this Congress is between a system where scientists make scientific judgments through accountable processes and one where political appointees make those calls instead. That choice will determine whether the next breakthroughs in cancer, Alzheimer’s, antibiotic resistance, and pandemic defense will happen here, somewhere else, or perhaps not at all. I urge this committee to support a joint resolution of disapproval to block the proposed OM financial assistance rule. that authority to replace peer review with political approval has not been granted by Congress…

This is a congressional hearing that is worth checking out.

KMAG 20250723 OPEN TOPIC, + Epstein Sting


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Given the hysteria around the Epstein Files and the unsigned memo, I thought I would document this historic happening. The timeline, using comments by Q-Treeoers, is at the bottom of the article. I decided to start off with the more current happenings and various peoples takes on this mess.

HONEYPOT ☙ Friday, July 18, 2025 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠


….The Grand Jury testimony represents the best version of the case the DOJ believed it could prove, before Epstein’s death, before redactions, and without political caution. It’s the raw indictment pitch, presented to citizens in private, without spin or PR filter. Unlike rumors, anonymous leaks, or pages of potentially related or unrelated documents, grand jury material is presented under oath. The witnesses are sworn. The evidence is carefully cataloged. It’s all been formally curated by prosecutors…. [<== NOTE PROSECUTORS as in M. Comey! GC]


SITREP Ep. 122: Weaponized Institutions, Border Games, and War Crimes – Featuring Reeve Swainston

Reeve is a former Marine and DOJ prosecutor. @ 25 minutes he says that Maurene Comey would be the one who asked the judge to have the Maxwell case SEALED. As far as unsealing the Grand Jury material, @ 28 minutes, Reeve says it is a ‘heavy lift’ and would need court approval. Generally it is NEVER disclosed. This is the same thing Jeff Childers says. [She was at SDNY in 2014 & became assistant US attorney (SDNY) 👉in May 2016. Wiki]

@ 1:13:00 Brian Lupo comments that he thinks the only one who has actually acknowledge that memo is Caroline Levitt. He does not recall anyone else acknowledging it. He also thinks that AXIOS by putting it out before the Trump admin was ready has put them back on their heels and made them defensive.

@ 1:14:10 Alpha says he thinks it is Kayfabe. He notes that the Trump admin was ready this time. People are fired, arrested and moved the minute there is a problem. This tells you they are being watched. Tonight [Jul 17] Trump put out the Grand Jury request to Bondi. Did you see how fast she replied? Under five minutes. There is not how fast one moves on such large scale things. He thinks Bondi does nothing critical that is not approved by Trump. That request to Bondi would have caused a Schiff storm that would require lots of scrambling if it was not pre-approved and coordinated by Trump.

@ 1:16:30 Brian Lupo says it was 30 minutes to be fair and then corrects @ 1:21:00. Bondi published at 9:09 pm and Trump at 9:07 pm – TWO MINUTES, which is very fast. Brian then reiterates the conversation that he and Reeves had before Alpha showed up. He says Trump specified the release is SUBJECT TO COURT APPROVAL and Grand Jury testimony is very confidential… Alpha: I think we will get another Rug Pull… or they might release a partial transcript [NOTICE either way it then transfers the ‘Black Eye’ TO the COURTS. 😉 GC]

Brian & Alpha then go into how they might fabricate Epstein evidence against Trump. Alpha notes they were surveilling Trump and could have matched times when Trump had no alibi with times when Epstein was not in public view.

A quick look at wether or not Alpha’s fabricating evidence idea is possible. Given what they did to General Flynn & Trump the first go round, we KNOW the FIB will fabricate evidence.


Epstein Arrests

In 2005, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating Epstein after a parent reported that he had sexually abused her 14-year-old daughter. Federal officials identified 36 girls, some as young as 14 years old, whom Epstein had allegedly sexually abused.[9] Epstein pleaded guilty and was convicted in 2008 by a Florida state court of procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute…. Epstein was arrested again on July 6, 2019, on federal charges for the sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York – Wiki


FISA Warrants


In 2005, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating Epstein after a parent reported that he had sexually abused her 14-year-old daughter. Federal officials identified 36 girls, some as young as 14 years old, whom Epstein had allegedly sexually abused.[9] Epstein pleaded guilty and was convicted in 2008 by a Florida state court of procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute…. Epstein was arrested again on July 6, 2019, on federal charges for the sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York – Wiki

FISA Warrants

The FBI had surveilled Carter Page under a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant beginning in 2013 or 2014, on concerns that Russian intelligence was attempting to recruit him.[54][63] Trump announced his candidacy for president in June 2015, and Page joined his campaign on March 21, 2016.[64][65] After Michael Isikoff of Yahoo! News reported on September 23, 2016, that Page was being investigated by American intelligence for his contacts with Russian agents,[66] Page immediately left the Trump campaign, while two campaign spokesmen denied he had ever been a part of it.[67][68]

During the summer of 2016, the FBI applied for a warrant to conduct surveillance on four members of the Trump campaign, but this application was rejected by the FISA court as too broad.[69] On October 21, 2016, the FBI filed a new FISA warrant application for Page alone, expressing the FBI’s belief that the Russian government was collaborating with Page and possibly others associated with the Trump campaign,[70] and that Page had been the subject of targeted recruitment by Russian intelligence agencies.. — Wiki

There was also the Alfa-Bank mess and probably private detectives hired by the Hillary campaign.

…In July, BuzzFeed News reports that, from December 2014 to the summer of 2017, numerous suspicious money transfers were made between Paul Erickson’s accounts, including Wells Fargo Bank accounts, an undisclosed law firm, the NRA of America,[a] Jack Abramoff’s son Alex and Abramoff’s brother Robert’s company Landfair Capital Consulting, which was founded in March 2017, and Maria Butina’s Alfa-Bank account .[38] Investigators from Wells Fargo reported these suspicious money transfers to the United States Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) and to the FBI.[38] — Wiki


Jack Abramoff

Jack Allan Abramoff is an American lobbyist, businessman, film producer, writer, and convicted criminal.[1][2] He was at the center of an extensive federal corruption investigation,[3] which resulted in his conviction and 21 others either pleading guilty or being found guilty,[4] including White House officials J. Steven Griles and David Safavian, U.S. Representative Bob Ney, and nine other lobbyists and congressional aides. — Wiki

Maria Butina

…her [Maria Butina] first known financial transaction with Erickson was much earlier than that. In December 2014, she sent a pair of wires from her Alfa Bank account to Erickson in the US. They totaled $8,000, and Butina noted they were for “grant assistant.”BuzzFeed

NSA & American citizen unmasking

On June 6, 2017, Dennis Montgomery and his lawyer Larry Klayman, who founded both Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, sued the FBI and its former director, James Comey.

Obama Regime, NSA, Comey, Mueller Illegally Spied & Unmasked 20M American Citizens

Dennis Montgomery, a former US Intelligence contractor is suing James Comey and other government figures for covering-up evidence he provided them proving widespread surveillance and unmasking on more than 20 Million American citizens.

Circa is reporting that Montgomery says the evidence he gave to the FBI chronicle the warrantless collection of phone conversations, bank records, financial data, credit reports, emails, Internet traffic, personal data and the unmasking of identities in spy data about millions of Americans.

This is consistent with public statements made by James Comey at the Boston Conference on Cyber Security at Boston College on March 8, 2017 that, “the 4th Amendment was a compromise for American sovereignty and that we the people have no right to privacy; and that even of thoughts belong to the government.”..

Another rabbit hole, glad I am a caver.😋

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JUST IN: DOJ Asks Federal Court to Unseal Grand Jury Transcripts Associated with Epstein Cases Gateway Pundit

On Brave these are the highlighted headlines when I searched Epstein on July 22:

An Accuser’s Story Suggests How Trump Might Appear in the Epstein Files — The New York Times

Jeffrey Epstein accuser urged FBI to investigate Trump decades ago – report — The Guardian World News

Epstein accuser claims she met Trump in disgraced financier’s office in ‘troubling encounter’ – report — The Independent World News

Artist Maria Farmer said she urged the FBI to look into people in the disgraced financier’s social circle, including the president…

Farmer and her younger sister Annie, who testified at Ghislaine Maxwell’s 2021 sex trafficking trial, have spoken publicly about their ordeal with Epstein before. But her account now sheds light on how the Epstein files could contain material that is “embarrassing or politically problematic” to the president, the Times  reports.

Farmer’s account is among “the clearest indications yet” of how Trump may appear in the Epstein files, the Times notes, though the White House disputed the alleged encounter…


Looks like the Trump Lawsuit against WSJ did not stop the Cabal from running with the newest Trump smear campaign. 🙄


I think this is what Trump was aiming for with his sting. Remember he has to have extraordinary reasons to unseal Grand Jury material.


Republicans and Democrats Call for More Information on Epstein Case — The New York Times

Johnson Says He Won’t Hold Vote Calling on Trump to Release Epstein Files This Summer — The New York Times

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IFFF Alpha is correct and they used ILLEGAL surveillance on Trump to determine when he was alone (family does not count) to match him up with Epstein… If salacious footage of Trump with an underaged girl is dropped AND you can prove it was manufactured using that surveillance information, then you CERTAINLY have a very nice RICO case. Unsealing the Epstein Grand Jury info could be very useful in showing the original material showed there was no evidence against Trump.

FBI ‘Grand Conspiracy’ Case Goes Far Beyond Comey and Brennan

POTUS wants to know everything we are doing.” [OBAMA]

Keep that line in mind when anyone talks about the FBI investigating former Director James Comey, former CIA Director John Brennan, and beyond.

It’s what Lisa Page, former FBI lawyer, texted then-boyfriend FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok amid the 2016 campaign. We tend to dismiss Page as “Strzok’s girlfriend.” But she was far more than that. Comey’s deputy was Andrew McCabe. McCabe’s right hand was Page. What’s more, Page was the FBI’s White House liaison during the Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump investigations. And her message to Strzok, a top soldier in the war against Trump: “POTUS wants to know everything we are doing.”

That president, of course, was Barack Obama. And he wasn’t talking about their canoodling. When Fox News broke the story last week about a criminal investigation into Brennan and Comey, its sources used the word “conspiracy.”

Daily Signal

AND

DOJ Fires Maurene Comey, Prosecutor Involved in Epstein, Diddy Cases

Reese in the Sitrep video above says they had to have CAUSE to fire M. Comey. He also says she badly fumbled the Diddy case but that is not enough reason to fire her. Misshandling–later changing the Epstein information in her care on the other hand certainly would be cause.

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TIMELINE from the Qtree Comments

gil00  July 7, 2025 00:37

Fbi is still corrupt. I call big gigantic pile of bs. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/wait-what-if-there-was-no-epstein-client/

Wait, What? If There Was No Epstein Client List Then Why Did NY Court Refuse The Gateway Pundit’s Legal Request for the List Based on an Anonymous ‘John Doe’ Who Was On the List?

On Sunday night the Department of Justice and FBI released a document that concluded that notorious child predator Jeffrey Epstein did not have a “client list” and that he was not murdered but committed suicide.

The FBI released a video that shows an empty hallway in what they insist proves Epstein committed suicide.

TheseTruths  Reply to  gil00  July 7, 2025 00:45

I was just writing about that:

BREAKING: New FBI Memo Concludes Jeffrey Epstein Did Not Have a “Client List ” – and Committed Suicide – with Video of Jail Cell
If Jeffrey Epstein Had No Client List Then Why Did AG Pam Bondi Tell Reporters the List “Is Sitting on My Desk Right Now to Review – That’s in the Process of Being Reviewed” (VIDEO)
Wait, What? If There Was No Epstein Client List Then Why Did NY Court Refuse The Gateway Pundit’s Legal Request for the List Based on an Anonymous ‘John Doe’ Who Was On the List?
I think orders have come down from *above* somewhere to put an end to the Epstein speculation. There must be very good reasons to do this. Trump is on a roll with domestic and foreign affairs. Maybe revealing more about Epstein would completely wreck the good that is being done and the trajectory that the country is on. Maybe it would end foreign relations in some quarters or even start a war.

This FIB and DOJ are doing good in other areas. On a different site, the names of Bondi, Patel, and Bongino can’t be mentioned without people denigrating all the law enforcement good they are doing and piling on with “What about Epstein?” We have a choice of whether to stay stuck in that mindset.

How important is it that we know more about Epstein, in the grand scheme of things? What good would come of it?

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patfrederick(@patfrederick)  Reply to  gil00  July 7, 2025 07:12

this memo is not signed or dated…

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TheseTruths(@thesetruths) July 7, 2025

Donald J. Trump:

The FBI, under the direction of Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino, is back to the basics: Locking up criminals, and cleaning up America’s streets. We have the Greatest Law Enforcement professionals in the World, but “Politics” and Corrupt Leadership often prevented them from doing their job. That is no longer the case, and now, they have been unleashed to do their jobs, and they are doing just that. Keep it up — MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN! thefederalist.com/2025/06/16/a

The U.S. Is On Track For Its Lowest Murder Rate Ever

When you let law enforcement catch criminals, you will get less crime.

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TheseTruths on  July 8, 2025 00:47

Catturd:

If you listen to our podcast, I’ve said many times.

With Christoper Wray in charge, I wouldn’t doubt it if all the evidence seized on Epstein’s island never made it back to shore. They had plenty of time to destroy everything and probably did.

No way those snakes would just hand over the truth or any evidence to Trump’s team.

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 Friday, Wired Magazine ran an explosive story under a very carefully worded headline, “Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified.It was a rookie mistake. The sub-headline cautiously clarified, “There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.”

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/french-fried-monday-july-14-2025

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TheseTruths

Gen. Mike Flynn Urges Trump to Confront Epstein Cover-Up — Warns Nation Cannot Heal Until Elites Are Held Accountable for Child Abuse

And Glenn Beck:

My team has filed a FOIA for all of 

@danbongino’s texts and emails regarding Epstein to Pam Bondi. My guess is that those exchanges will tell us everything we need to know.

Yesterday I learned about Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly. Now it’s Glenn Beck and Michael Flynn. They are all acting directly in contrast to what Pres. Trump has said, which tells me they don’t trust him to a) be just as vigilant as they are about prosecuting pedophiles, and b) know what’s in the best interest of the country. They are actively undermining him and can no longer be trusted, IMO.

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Jeff Childers Jul 09, 2025

Trump’s otherwise terrific sixth all-hands Cabinet meeting yesterday was eclipsed by the shadow of a dead pervert. Mid-day, Michelle texted me the short clip, saying only, “I don’t like this.” She meant she didn’t like how President Trump handled the Epstein question. I’ll give you my lawyer’s take.

First of all, it is already a dramatic improvement that a reporter was freely allowed to ask the unscripted question at all; under Biden, there wouldn’t have been any questions. I give Trump partial credit for jumping in and commenting.

Though the reporter’s delivery was awkwardly circuitous, he clearly asked Pam Bondi two critical questions: (1) Was Jeffrey Epstein an asset of any U.S. intelligence agency? (2) Why is a minute missing from the prison video outside Epstein’s cell? Neither question suggested any wrongdoing, cast blame, or even expressed skepticism.

Trump, with a quick apology to Bondi, immediately interrupted. Here’s his full answer, delivered with the kind of incredulous exasperation of a mom answering a curious child’s 100th repetitive question about how the Sun works right before saying, “from now on, ask your father”:

Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy has been talked about for years. You are asking … we have taxes, this, and all of the things, and are people still talking about this guy? This creep? That is unbelievable. (To Bondi:) Do you want to waste the time? You feel like answering? (To reporter:) I cannot believe you are asking a question on Epstein on a time like this when we are having some of the greatest success, and also tragedy, with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. (To Bondi:) You go ahead.”

Trump’s unexpectedly aggressive response rubbed Michelle the wrong way. And if you watch the clip, you’ll see what she meant when she said she didn’t like it. Trump comes off as uncharacteristically defensive; his delivery wildly overshot the mark. By labeling the two most often-asked questions on conservative social media “a desecration” unfairly implied that the questions themselves were transgressive— but desecration of what? Epstein’s sacred memory? It was a misstep.

Trump’s answer sounded too much like Hillary’s infamous response to the Benghazi disaster. At this point, what does it matter? Let’s move on.

🔥 My take is simpler. Trump wasn’t deflecting; he was protecting Pam Bondi, buying her a little time, and giving her an out. In other words, he made it possible for her to say, “I don’t want to waste time on that question.” His aggressive defense suggests that none of this was Pam’s idea. To Pam’s credit, she insisted on answering….

The rest is HERE.

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scott467  July 17, 2025 01:34

From OT:

President Trump Blasts Supporters Who Continue Focusing on Epstein Story
July 16, 2025 

SD: “President Trump sent out a very strong message on Truth Social today. “[M]y PAST supporters have bought into this “bullshit,” hook, line, and sinker,” Trump said. Adding, “I don’t want their support anymore!

President Trump was then asked why he thought his supporters were so focused on the Jeffrey Epstein saga during an impromptu press conference.

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scott467  July 17, 2025

Maurene Comey (fired yesterday, daughter of James Comey), was in charge of the Epstein case, the P-Diddy case, and the Ghislaine Maxwell case. And Sam Bankman-Fried.

What are the chances?

Maurene’s husband Lucas Issacharoff, still works for the DoJ (SDNY), as does James Comey’s son-in-law, Troy Edwards.

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prognosticatasaurusrex(@prognosticatasaurusrex)  July 18, 2025

I told you guys @ seven years ago…..

In the END they ALL had ONLY one boss.

BYE BYE Barry.

Told you, the Epstein shit was a distraction from link one, the trap is link 2

ALL MAGA business is coming DUE.

After all this time the STORM is HERE//SHOWTIME.

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The Badlands media group thinks the whole Epstein mess was scripted by POTUS as I outlined at the start. Think about it, the chances that the FIB files were tampered with by the DemonRats is close to 100%. So POTUS has that unsigned memo leaked. Chaos ensues until the DEMOCRATS call for the release of the Epstein files, KNOWING that the NY FIB tampered with them.

Kalbokalbs brings


Jamie Raskin as Asshole Epstein who was trump’s very close friend.


POTUS acts reluctant and then:

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REVEALED: WSJ ‘Reporter’ Who Wrote Epstein Hit Piece on President Trump Has a Connection to Founder of Fusion GPS, Which Was Funded by Hillary and the DNC to Produce the Russia Hoax Cullen Linebarger Jul. 18, 2025 10:30 am 464 Comments

The Wall Street Journal reporter who broke the “blockbuster” story alleging a letter Trump wrote to Epstein for his 50th birthday included some tawdry elements previously worked for Main Justice (his only prior reporting experience listed in his bio).

Main Justice was Glenn Simpson’s wife’s publication. Simpson founded Fusion GPS, which was paid by Hillary Clinton/the DNC (through Perkins Coie) to produce the Steele Dossier at the center of the Russian hoax against Trump.

Both Glenn Simpson and his wife, Mary Jacoby, worked for the Wall Street Journal before launching their own enterprises.

Susan Crabtree@susancrabtree·
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Oh yes! I forgot about that. Also, Mary worked on the Wesley Clark 2004 campaign.

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Trump Embraces Special Prosecutor For Weaponization Probe and Epstein, Vows New Declassifications

President Donald Trump on Wednesday embraced the FBI’s decision to open a conspiracy probe into a decade of alleged intelligence abuses and weaponized law enforcement, suggesting it could be led by a special prosecutor and even delve into “credible evidence” in the Jeffrey Epstein case in order to give Americans a greater dose of transparency and accountability. He also vowed to declassify two highly sensitive pieces of intelligence to help further the prosecutor’s efforts. […]

It was a disgrace what happened, what happened in 2016 and what happened in 2020. It’s a disgraceful situation,” he said. “And our voting has to be straightened out. I always say if you don’t have borders, if you don’t have fair and free voting, you don’t have a country.”

Unprompted, Trump then volunteered on his own that a special prosecutor – if one is appointed by Justice – to look at weaponization could also delve into “anything credible” on Jeffrey Epstein and his files to make sure Americans have a full accounting. – Just the News

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The Wall Street Gerbil releases


Trump Will Sue the WSJ, Directs Bondi to Unseal Epstein Material

President Donald Trump said Thursday he would sue the Wall Street Journal and its owner over a new bombshell report [NEW??? You have to be kidding me! You mean newly manufactured. –GC] about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to begin the process of unsealing grand jury testimony in the disgraced financier’s criminal case.

Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval,” Trump said on social media, though it’s unclear that a judge would approve the request. “This SCAM, perpetuated by the Democrats, should end, right now!”…

Jeff Childers, since I wrote this has a new article that will make you smile.

☕️ MARS ATTACKS ☙ Monday, July 21, 2025 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠

…Yesterday, I covered the narrative-crushing New York Times interview with Epstein investigative reporter Julie K. Brown, which pushed the stuffing back in most of the Epstein conspiracy theories and ended observing Epstein could not have done his crimes without help (it also basically exonerated Trump). This morning the Times ran another bizarre story, at the top of the website, headlined, “What to Know About the Epstein Files, a Perfect Recipe for Conspiracy Theories.” The article begins, unsurprisingly enough, by highlighting the “loud, public crack in the president’s support system” that has —according to the Times— widened into “a chasm.” A narrative chasm that threatens to cause the Times’ liberal readers to expire from unrestrained joy. At first, the story seemed to be the traditional Democrat take, but then things started to get … weird.

First, tell me what you think of how the Times described Epstein’s death in prison:

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The authorities say he hanged himself. Was the Times injecting a hint of skepticism about the official story?

The article picked itself up and continued merrily along with the usual corporate media take, invoking QAnon, Pizzagate, the X-Files, and other cue phrases designed to make self-anointed intellectual progressives titter like stoned hyenas. But then came another sly dash of cold water:

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FBI files contain strange rumors and absurd speculation? Am I imagining things, or did the Times just throw cold water on demands for the “full file?” And right when liberals are demanding full transparency and Congressional Democrats are injecting “full file release” amendments into dam-repair bills?

Regular readers will recall our speculation last week that the FBI files are packed with poison pills deliberately making the “full file” useless and politically explosive at the same time. Now the Times seems to be tracking the same direction, pre-bunking the unreleased material

KMAG 20250319 OPEN TOPIC & OPERATION GLADIO — JFK ASSASSINATION

The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection

NOTE FROM THE AUTHOR: I hope you take the time to read this because it may very well have a great impact on events in the near future.

I wrote most of this over the weekend so I have no idea if these theories are true. Also we do not know how true the JFK files actually are either. I will be looking at the video I link to further down.

I am going to cut this hour-and-a-half video in half. I am again going to do a rough transcription and I will not put it in quotes. My comments and other information that I add should be obvious.

In the middle was this section on JFK and Cuba.

CUBA & JFK

ROUGH TRANSCRIPT

50:30 – Colonel Towner: When the opium came out of the far east it transited Sicily for the lab preparation after the CIA got rid of the Corsica mafia… talks of Godfather movie… Propaganda two [P2] is the masonic lodge that was set up by the Black Prince of Italy. Almost a thousand–mafia, Vatican, or Italian officials–were members, including the president, chief of intel. Top guy set up that Sicily was going to be the lab for refining, the refined heroin would be transported to Cuba, and Cuba was going to stage it into Miami, New York, LA… they used plastic oranges for transport…. Military also was used for shipping and that is why you have wars. The Vietnam war, the Afghan war. The Flying Tigers in Burma, had to do with opium harvested in China.

OPERATION NORTHWOOD

Colonel: Operation Northwood was created, & drafted by CIA, Allen Dulles and General Lyman Lemnitzer chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was an Operation Gladio Event. In it they purposed, to McNamara [secretary of defense] and JFK, — they wanted Cuba back so bad – that Operation Northwood featured all of the major US cities having terror attacks by Stay-behind trained people. The people would be dressed as Cuban Nationalists. They would basically say we had been invaded by Cuba, communism was taking over however the entire time it would be people dressed as Cubans. They were going to kill tens of thousands of Americans to instill fear, so they could do a ground invasion of Cuba.

JFK says absolutely not, we are not doing this. Allen Dulles, just before this had been fired. Lyman Lemnitzer, in what should have been a demotion and a resignation, JFK thought, was reassigned to NATO.


SIDE NOTE FROM WIKI: “He [Lyman Lemnitzer ]was appointed as commander of U.S. European Command and as NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe, which was a positional demotion.”

Colonel: JFK had never been told about Operation Gladio. He had never been told that a sub unit of NATO called ACC [Allied Clandestine Committee – GC], was the planning cell for all Operation Gladio events. Unknowingly JFK put Lemnitzer in charge of Operation Gladio. Why that is important is because…

[END VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

Charles de Gaulle kicked out NATO after they tried to kill him!


After 31 US-NATO assassination attempts on his life, President De Gaulle kicked NATO out of France

March 10, 1966: After 31 assassination attempts against his life, Charles De Gaulle ordered France’s withdrawal from NATO’s military integrated command. This decision was formally reversed almost half a century later under Nicolas Sarkozy’s presidency. De Gaulle adopted a foreign policy independent of the Anglo-american axis.

His March 10 1966, not only pertained France’s decision to withdraw from NATO’s integrated military command, but also to remove NATO’s headquarters from French territory, thereby leading the establishment of the Alliance’s headquarters in Brussels…

A Damned Murder Inc: Kennedy’s Battle Against the Leviathan

…After returning from Kennedy’s Nov. 24th funeral in Washington, de Gaulle and his information minister Alain Peyrefitte had a candid discussion that was recorded in Peyrefitte’s memoire “C’était de Gaulle,” the great General was quoted saying:

“”What happened to Kennedy is what nearly happened to me… His story is the same as mine. … It looks like a cowboy story, but it’s only an OAS [Secret Army Organization] story. The security forces were in cahoots with the extremists.

Security forces are all the same when they do this kind of dirty work. As soon as they succeed in wiping out the false assassin, they declare the justice system no longer need be concerned, that no further public action was needed now that the guilty perpetrator was dead. Better to assassinate an innocent man than to let a civil war break out. Better an injustice than disorder.

America is in danger of upheavals. But you’ll seeAll of them together will observe the law of silence. They will close ranks. They’ll do everything to stifle any scandal. They will throw Noah’s cloak over these shameful deeds. In order to not lose face in front of the whole world. In order to not risk unleashing riots in the United States. In order to preserve the union and to avoid a new civil war. In order to not ask themselves questions. They don’t want to know. They don’t want to find out. They won’t allow themselves to find out.

It remains to be seen if JFK’s assassination was an Operation Gladio and how much LBJ was involved.

The other aspect of this I wish to point out is this:


Operation Northwood featured all of the major US cities having terror attacks by Stay-behind trained people. The people would be dressed as Cuban Nationalists. They would basically say we had been invaded by Cuba, communism was taking over however the entire time it would be people dressed as Cubans. They were going to kill tens of thousands of Americans to instill fear, so they could do a ground invasion of Cuba….
Colonel Towner


Even WIKI mentions:

…As chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Lemnitzer was responsible for drafting Operation Northwoods, a proposed plan to create support for military action against Cuba, by orchestrating false flag terrorism acts in the United States…

Now consider these facts:

1. POTUS Trump had read the JFK files during his first term.

2. When he lost the election he wrote a schiff load of EOs and other secret documents.

3. He appointed new military leaders.

4. There was a new branch of the armed forces organized under Trump 45. This people were hand picked.

Jon Herold was yapping about ‘Devolution’ in 2021 and beyond. I brought it to the Qtree because it does exist. Devolution is fallback plan not a legal coup d‘état however the flurry of activity AFTER the election was certainly note worthy.

The Continuity of Government Devolution Plan, often referred to simply as COG, is a highly classified protocol designed to ensure the continuity of essential government functions in the event of a catastrophic event or crisis. This plan was originally created during the Cold War to protect the United States from the threat of nuclear war. LINK

However, what if Trump’s flurry of activity post the 2020 election was not about the stolen election but was aimed at preventing an ‘Operation Northwood’ false flag aimed at ‘Deplorables’ instead of Cubans? I mention this possibility because I am surprised something of this nature was NOT deployed given all the falsehood surrounding Jan 6th ..

A second observation. I do think Q is legit. However Colonel Towner’s comment on another video, that Fort Bragg is where Gladio Operatives are trained to be assassins, gives me pause since Fort Bragg is also home to several psychological operations units, including the 4th Psychological Operations Group (Airborne) and the 8th Psychological Operations Group (Airborne). 

An added tidbit to keep in mind as you read this transcript.

Declassified files expose British role in NATO’s Gladio terror armies

Newly declassified British Foreign Office files have added disturbing details to the history of Operation Gladio. The covert operation was uncovered in 1990, when the public learned that the CIA, MI6 and NATO trained and directed an underground army of fascist paramilitary units across Europe, deploying its assets to undermine political opponents, including through false flag terror attacks.

Among them was a young Silvio Berlusconi, the media oligarch who served as Italian Prime Minister in four separate governments between 1994 and 2011. Listed as a member of the P2, the secret Cold War-era cabal of political elites devoted to Gladio’s aims, Berlusconi undoubtedly took some weighty secrets to the grave when he died this June 12th [2023].

It is almost impossible to believe that inconvenient truths were not weeded from Britain’s documentary record on Operation Gladio prior to declassification. Nonetheless, the recently released material is highly illuminating. Covering a fraught twelve month period after the first public disclosure of Gladio’s existence, the papers illustrate how London’s foreign intelligence apparatus kept a keen eye on the continent as events unfolded.

The papers not only shed fresh light on the conspiracy, they underline Gladio’s relevance as British intelligence joins its America counterparts in contemporary plots involving secret partisan forces from Syria to Ukraine….

ROUGH TRANSCRIPT

0:26 – Introductions of the Colonel & Brady. The Colonel has several degrees including a Masters Degree in Strategic Studies (Political & Military history of last 100 yrs) Brady spent 20 years in banking and finance on Wall Street.

2:30 – They came to similar conclusions from different directions.

3:00 – Colonel: I came across Operation Gladio in the book The Third Way. It is written about the erroneous assumption that there is a far left and a far right. There is not. There is a perception that Communism is on the left and Fascism is on the right. They are both very leftist ideologies. You need them to psychologically funnel people in a particular direction, you need to have something on the left and on the right to funnel people into what I call the cattle car. The narrative got built around the early WWI, WWII that Fascism was going to be DESIGNED as a Right Issue so that as the author points out, you can come at people from the left and from the right and herd them in the direction you want. I found that concept fascinating.

4:25 –5:15 Brady: I agree 100%, I should mention I am an amateur constitutional scholar, and I help Douglas B Gibbs, teach a constitution class both on line and it used to be in person. One of the things we describe is the far left is 100% authoritarianism. And the far right is 100% anarchy but that is also 100% individual liberty. So what the Founding Fathers goal was is to be as far right as you could be, with the most individual liberty and still maintain order. What you are talking about is the artificial calling of Communism left and Fascism right, that is just the divide and conquer strategy. It does not matter what is right or what is left, what is white what is black, they want to distract us so we never look up and see who is pulling the puppet strings.

5;20 – 8:10 Colonel: One of the things I noticed right away, in Trump’s narrative, he never allows people to create the false narrative, and then answer it. He calls them immediately on them phrasing a question with it being fiction and then expecting him to answer. It is like the wife beating trap.

Anyone who has a conversation about the ‘Far Right’ I ignore because they have completely destroyed their credibility by the use of that term. I just will not accept that hypothesis. I wish more of us in a dialog would do that. It is based on knowledge. I have spent literally hundreds of hours reading and beginning a podcast helping people who still work and have a day job, to have the information to be able to refute this in a concise manner.

When I got to the end of The Third Way, I feel like I am fairly competent in military operations, and things that have gone on in the past. He talked about a concept called Operation Gladio. Because that was new. I had no idea what that was, I am instantly intrigued. It is also referred to as Stay-Behind Units and as the Strategy of Tension. All three of those things are synonymous with each other.

I started looking and reading articles just on the internet. I found a couple of authors who were detailing in like volumes of books about the extensiveness of Operation Gladio. I was flabbergasted that in all of the research, all of the historical documents I have read, I had never come across that.

So I immediately get on the phone to my network. I have retired National War College friends, I have retired general friends, as a matter of fact I was just talking recently to a 3 star general. He has never heard of it! And he was in charge, commanded the Air War College and the Air Command and Staff College!!! And he never heard of it!!!

That just blew me away! And that made me more interested in exposing it, because it is HUGE.

8:10 – 8:30 Brady: Just to be crystal clear this is NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY! This is documented in CIA , government documents and Congressional testimony. THIS IS REAL. Everything we are talking about is NOT a theory. It is not somebody trying to put pieces together. There are actual sourced documents behind all this stuff.

8:30 -11:30 Colonel: Correct. Newspaper clippings, The best investigation into it was in Italy and we will get into that. But also to set the stage and capture what you were saying Brady about your Wall Street experience, which is why I think this team is going to be so awesome, in discussing this particular topic . Because also this was in context for me about having just recently learned thru Anthony Sutton’s Trilogy about Wall Street and the Bolsheviks, Wall Street & FDR, and Wall Street and Nazism – Hitler. That the funding of ALL of those, the funding of FDRs campaign, the funding of the Bolsheviks that went into Russia and turned it Soviet quote unquote Communism. The effort to fund Hitler both when he was still in jail but after he became the Chancellor of Germany as well. ALL came primarily from one location near Wall Street and the address was 120 Broadway NYC…. Anthony Sutton is on Youtube with all proven fact with cables, State Department cables. He goes into a lot of detail on exactly how that happened.

It is interesting to note for the purpose of today, that Lenin was put up in London UK and Trotsky was put up in NYC. [ Note that for years I was not allowed to use the word Trotsky at Jo Nova’s, ChiefIo’s or Tony Heller’s sites. I was told by Jo and E.M. Smith the comments went straight to trash and NOT TO MODERATION. – GC 🤔] They were housed there with no apparent income yet Trotsky in the early 19 teens had a refrigerator, and all the luxuries that most Americans did not have access to. They both traveled from their protective custody to Russia to create communism AFTER the revolution in Russia. That ties directly into where we are going to get to the operational control of Operation Gladio. It comes both from the USA, Germany, because Lenin went thru Germany to get to Russia and from downtown London.

11:30 – 12:50 Brady: You cannot tell this story without talking about London PERIOD. That may just be the epicenter of all these schemes and plots.

It is funny you mentioned Anthony Sutton. I started my research with the history of Banking and Finance and how it got, shall we say, as creative as it has. It’s the wrong term. You go deep enough into the formation of money. The very first presentation I ever did, I called the dystopian history of money and banking and I went all the way back to Roman times. The first creation of making private coin in the 1600s. If you go down that path, you can’t not run into Anthony Sutton at some point in time. I ran into him pretty early on. G. Edward Griffin among others. Dr John Coleman did some really good work in this area. He was dismissed as a quack for a number of years, but his theories are becoming more and more true over the last decade or so. It’s funny, so let’s not dismiss these people out of hand. Some of these people did do real research.

The work that Sutton did is amazing and the same with Griffin because they actually dug thru boxes and microfiche and real articles and actual cables and communications.

12:50 – Colonel: Exactly

Brady: Source documents as we like to call it….

You mentioned Trotsky coming from NY but you also mentioned the Russian Revolution. I would state that a little differently. It was not so much a Russian Revolution as it was a Russian Invasion.

Colonel: Correct.

Brady: And it was financed by British & NY banking interests. We do not have to talk about the long feud between British and Russian, but it definitely plays a part.

13:30 Colonel: But for another show, that will include all the royalty that got deposed to include France, Austrian. We lost thousand-year reigns of monarchies, I am not saying it was good or bad, but I am saying it was intentional.

13:45 Brady: Yeah, and they may be all related. Much of them are descended from the Venetian Royalty who infiltrated thru marriage throughout Europe. And that’s a whole show unto itself.

14:00 Colonel: Probably a whole series of shows.

14:05 Brady: So where are we? 1917 or what.

Colonel: If you back up a little bit. It is important to note the Boer wars that happened in Africa. Because you set the stage for the colonization that had been going on both pre-world wars and post world wars. However the Boer wars are the first time we get introduced to Winston Churchill. So for the people who do not know, there were 2 Boer wars. And in the first one, the English got their butt kicked by the totally ill-equipped Boers who were basically farmers. And the way they got their butt kicked was, the Boers knew where the British were going to attack them because they had infiltrators. And a young British reporter, named Winston Churchill, was covering this. And as the British forces went in to attack the different settlements of these farmers, the farmers, had what we will call, stay-behind units. They had hid both munitions and people so as the British went by they ambushed them from behind. That struck Winston Churchill as genius. So he wrote about it…. They used that knowledge when they came back and attacked the second time after they found gold there. It was all about resources. They wanted the gold and they wanted the diamonds in South Africa. And that is the reason why South Africa became a British Colony. They wanted to steal all the resources.

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I want to interject what my South African friend told me this past Sunday. First if I understood her correctly the South African area was NOT occupied by Blacks at the time. The Dutch (Boers) colonized it. Second she told me that DURING THE 2ND Boer WAR, the British took Women and children prisoners AND FED THEM FOOD LACED WITH GLASS SO THEY DIED LINGERING HORRIBLE PAINFUL DEATHS!! The colonel also mentioned that the Brits took women and children prisoner and slaughtered them. — GC

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Colonel: This leads us to the Fabian Society, the London School of Economics, the Balfour Agreement and all of those.

This sets the stage for what is the next phase of Operation Gladio, and that is their view of the African Continent as a slave colony. It was never going to be allowed to have sovereign states. It was never going to be allowed to have its own monetary system. It was ALWAYS, and many of them still think that today. It was ALWAYS TO BE A SLAVE COLONY of the Europeans.

17:10 Brady: I want to introduce a story from one of the more influential Brits by the name of Cecil Rhodes. He is the one who founded the Rhodes Foundation right before his death. Early 1910s and it is still influential today. His is a fascinating story. He came from a relatively well-off family. Wanted to go to Oxford but did not get in. His family sent him to S. Africa to get some worldly experience. Two years after he got there they discovered diamonds in S. Africa and that really started the diamond rush there. By the age of 24 he had accumulated quite a bit of wealth and started buying up other people’s claims. He was a pretty good businessman to the point they named two countries after him. Not just Rhodesia, but I forgot the other one. He was at the heart of the Boer wars. He was pushing British interest against Dutch interests and instigated the whole thing… he goes back to London and goes to Oxford and does some interesting writing…. A couple of quotes from him.

He wanted society to insure the spread of British rule to the entire continent of Africa, the Holy Land, the Valley of Euphrates, the islands of Cyprus and Canada, the whole of South America, the islands of the South Pacific, the whole of the Malaysian archipelago, the seaboard of China and Japan, And in GOLD CAPS, THE ULTIMATE RECOVERY OF THE UNITED STATES, AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE.

That is in his own writing.

18:50 Colonel: I have the same quote and was going to read it. That is hilarious.

19:00 Brady: More from him:

I contend we are the finest race in the world and the more of the world that we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts of the world that are inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings.

We could go on but he was pretty prolific…. He was a Free Mason but he thought the Free Masons were not using their influence effectively enough. He said:

Why should we not form a secret society with but one object, the furtherance of the British Empire and bring the whole uncivilized world under British rule.

And so if you go back and look at these Rhodes Scholars this is what they were taught at Oxford. You have some pretty influential Rhodes Scholars today, Rachel Maddow, Bill Clinton, Strobe Talbott, Cory Booker, General Wesley Clark just to name a few. [Do not forget that judge Boasberg, who wanted the terrorist brought back to the USA from El Salvador. – GC]

The thinking of Rhodes and his ideology permeates today.

Colonel: Keep in mind General Wesley Clark when we get to Operation Gladio.

Brady: So that is the background on Rhodes. This is when those other institutes, like the Tavistock Institute were coming into play. Council of 300, RIA and CFR, the American version,… [I think RIA is the Royal Institute of International Affairs, now Chatham House. – GC]

20:25 Colonel: We have the creation of the Fabian Society, the London School of Economics, all coming under the Cecil Rhodes financing if you will. [Nathan Rothschild was the executor of the Rhodes will – GC] The Balfour Agreement, the people involved in the drafting of the Balfour Agreement. What is interesting about the quote that you just read, and them Capturing the Holy Land, I will make the argument as part of Operation Gladio, that is exactly what we are seeing today. It is what happen in the late 1940s when they set-up the country of Israel and how they went about doing it.

The same people that drafted the Balfour agreement, Milner and that group. They were all involved in the Fabian Society, the Round Table, the Chatham House, all those secret societies if you will. It is interesting that you mentioned the Masons because those of us who have looked into this, you realize that it goes back to the late 1700s when Adam Weishaupt wrote they were going to create a secret society within a secret society. Basically infiltrate the Masonic Orders, which at the time were just trade associations. They were literally masons, because that was the major trade throughout all of Europe and very Christian oriented. So they created within the Masonic Orders, this secret society that Adam Weishaupt talks about. It permeated throughout Europe and came over to the USA. So what you just read is literally the playbook. You realize that he outlines they are going to retake America, they are going to take over the Holy Land and I would argue they have been very successful in a very evil way.

22:30 — Brady: Successful in that if you look at the United Nations, the USA has one vote there and the members of the British Commonwealth have 55.

22:50 — Colonel: I want to outline the concept, especially for those of us in the military who will recognize this immediately. We [in the military] from a strategy standpoint, have segregated the world into what we consider combatant commands… and that is so we can formulate policies for like areas that have common economic systems, common resources issues, and normally have common concepts of government. The Rhodes Round table people… I want to introduce Oswald Mosely, he did a lot of writing as well. He is part of the Round Table, he is a Fascist by his own admission. He set up multiple Nazi/Socialist/Fascist organizations as political entities inside of England. He is famous for this concept I am going to introduce. They created, and it was also talked of in The Third Way book, they created Pan-America, Pan- Europe, Pan- British Empire, Pan-Asia. There was a total of 6 or 7. They were breaking up the world in the same way we do in the military, common currency, common customs and common trade.

24: 32 — Brady: They did that to such an extent that they had the North American currency which was to be named the Amero. We already have got the Euro. You can read about this in United Nations documents, WEF and many others.

25:00 — Colonel: What is important about this is how they view Russia. Russia was viewed as being everything west of the Urals as part of Europe. Everything east of the Urals part of Asia. Russia was not going to exist. That is why today there is so much focus on destroying Russia. Russia as it is today does not fit what they want it to be. They will continue to attack it until it does. That is something to keep in the back of your mind as we go forward on how this whole thing unfolds.

25:40 — Brady: When we get to the 21st century, circle back on that and we will talk about the  Primakov doctrine. Because the Russians understood this very well and their entire foreign policy is a game plan on how to resist that. A lot of it is about getting off the mono-polar currency system. Which they have successfully done. We will get back to that.

26:00 — Colonel: As we get into WWII, you have Churchill. Let me set the stage for Churchill too because we have already associated him with the Round Table. Churchill is very much a closet fascist. We could spend a whole hour on why that is and what the connections are. I am going to point out a couple of things. Churchill actually sets up, what they refer to as Stay-behind Units in case they were invaded by Germany. I would argue that is not at all why they were set-up because he KNEW they were not going to be invaded and the way he knew was there was a family known as Mitford. They had five girls. One was a stated communist. The rest were socialists or fascists. The parents were all part of the Oswald Mosley [ The fascist, he was a real sweetheart. 🙄 GC] clique. But I am going to talk of two of them. One of them is named Unity and one is named Diana. Diana becomes Oswald Mosley’s wife. Churchill’s wife is cousins with the Mitfords. They go to dinner all the time they are part of the same dinner clubs and they talk often. Unity becomes Hitler’s lover. Diana travels routinely to Germany throughout WWII. It is now believed that she was the go-between between Churchill and Hitler as far as intel goes. Dig away on that, because that is a fascinating story. [No wonder Queen Elizabeth was willing to stay in London! Besides I do not think Hitler would touch the City of London bankers. –CG]

28:10 — Brady: If I wanted to read more about that what book would you recommend?

Colonel: I do not know if I would recommend a particular book, but I’ll find a reference for you. I first read about the Mitford girls in The Third Way. That was my first introduction into that family.

I had at the time someone who did a lot of German research and it is on my Truth Social page called #International Syndicate. That is my term for the Cabal. Because we hit ALL religions, ALL politics, and as soon as you start talking about any aspect of that, such as the Jews or Israel you get Oh, that is fake…. So I avoid all those conversations by referring to this structure that orchestrates things like Operation Gladio as the International Syndicate. So I set up a page where I first started doing book reviews as #International Syndicate on Truth Social so you can find all the information there. Just search for Mitford and my post will come up.

29:50 — Brady: There is probably a pretty good reason why we do not have a universal term for this global corporate oligarchy that actually rules over all of us. They did not invent a word because they did not want us talking about it.

Colonel: It is like the first couple of posts I made, and all the squabbles that went back and forth, I am not going to do this. I am not going to argue with you about whether someone is a real religious advocate or not. It is the same thing as with the right and left…. So I came up with my own term, you cannot argue because I made it up.

So anyway we go on to Germany’s role in setting up Operation Gladio. We know where it originated from, the Boer Wars and Churchill. I cannot say that Churchill came up with the idea and transmitted it to Hitler, but I would not be at all surprised, because as I said there was a lot of informal communications. But as Germany took territory, Germany created Stay-behind Units. They did it in Czechoslovakia and they did it in Ukraine. I will add the ones in Ukraine are the Neo-nazis we are seeing today because Operation Gladio is still in existence today. All that territory, Poland had them, the ones in Poland were vicious, France had them, Italy had them. Stay-behind Units had weapons, they had explosives, they had money and they had comm equipment. The purpose we were told originally was if the German territory got taken over by the quote-unquote Communists, which you will remember are ALL THE SAME PEOPLE, they would be able to spring up and fight against the awful communists. I do not believe for a minute, and I can make the argument of why I do not believe that. My contention is that they were designed to stay behind for the refocusing of WWII to a much longer war. We think WWII ended, I make the argument that it never ended. They changed operational and tactical levels but their goal is still the same. World domination, New World Order.

32:50 — Brady: 100% agreed. I did a presentation called American Fascists, talking about the American financial interests that financed the Germans. How we had the Wall Street Law Firms created our intelligence agencies. That is where Allen Dulles comes into the picture. Wild Bill Donovan gave him a huge leash. Dulles was over there working in Bern Switzerland, he had also been in Switzerland 30 years previously at the Treaty of Versailles, him and his brother both, John Foster Dulles. Allen Dulles was the mastermind of the American Stay-behind program. I cannot remember the name of the operation….

33:35 — Colonel: Operation Gladio is the Stay-behind units and Allen Dulles is responsible for its transition to its current use.

33:40 — Brady: Yeah, he ex filtrated Nazis like Reinhard Gehlen

Colonel: Gehlen you are getting ahead of me. In Germany in 1942, Gehlen gets together with, at the time a colonel, but eventually becomes general Wolf, they create these stay-behind units put into all the countries. They were originally called Werewolf Units. Citizen by day, werewolf, killer by night. They stood them up all over in these forested areas that most people would not transit. This is interesting when you look at the Safari Club, the World Wildlife Fund, all focused on forested preservation areas that they put off limits to people. As we go forward, the war takes a bad turn for Germany and Gehlen reaches out to Allen Dulles. As you pointed out, Allen Dulles and his brother John Forester Dulles represented a lot of the German companies both in Germany and their branches in the USA leading up to WWII. Gehlen says [to Dulles] if you can guarantee me my freedom, I am going to turn over my Gladio Units to you… I will tell you where they are, I will help you set-up new ones in all the allied countries and we can work this operation together.

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The Railroad Robber Baron was actually Edward H. Harriman

…Born in 1848, Harriman began his career as a stockbroker and later became the director of the Union Pacific Railroad, turning it into a highly efficient business.

Harriman’s aggressive business tactics and significant influence on the American railway system earned him a reputation as a ruthless “robber baron.” He died in 1909…


His son was W. Averell Harriman.

Averell Harriman, The Old Crocodile of Diplomacy

W. Averell Harriman was one of the more prominent public figures of the 20th Century, holding major positions in diplomacy, government, and business. Harriman served as Ambassador to the Soviet Union in 1943, and later Ambassador to the United Kingdom in 1946.  Less than a year into his position of Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Harriman was selected as the Secretary of Commerce by President Harry S. Truman. He was then put in charge of the Marshall Plan to rebuild infrastructure and support the economies of Europe after the destruction of World War II.

His political ambitions came to the fore when he was elected Governor of New York in 1954. He was a candidate for the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination in 1952 and again in 1956 but lost out to Adlai Stevenson both times. Although unsuccessful, Harriman became a respected advisor in the Democratic Party and went on to hold numerous positions in the government. In the Kennedy Administration, Harriman served as the Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs and in 1963, he became the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. In these positions, he was a key negotiator in the Vietnam peace talks….

The man was everywhere. From that article:

Moscow, Acting Director for the Office of War Information, 1943-45 dealing with Stalin.

Information Officer for the Marshall Plan in Paris, 1942 to 1952

Ambassador to Algeria, 1977 to 1981 [And a heck of a lot more places]

Ulric Haynes Jr.:

….in about 1960, ’61 when I was working for the Ford Foundation in Nigeria, John F. Kennedy asked Averell Harriman to make a tour of the emerging nations of Africa to give him advice on the formulation of American foreign policy in Africa. Harriman got in touch with me in Nigeria and asked me to accompany him on his mission to Africa because I was again, fluent in French and familiar with Africa….

[On] my trip with Harriman to the Congo with Lumumba, you will recall that the Americans, there has always been a suspicion — never proven, yet — that we were — our CIA was — involved with the demise of Patrice Lumumba (with Harriman, at left). And one of the reasons why we wanted Lumumba out of the way was that he was cozying up to the Soviet Union, realizing that, that this was a way of, of playing his cards in a way to get something from both the Soviet Union and the United States.

But it’s interesting, Lumumba was very, very conscious of the fact that the Americans were trying to subvert his government. He was very, very suspicious of the activities of the CIA in the Congo at the time. And I’ll never forget when Harriman went to his office to speak to him (he was prime minister at the time) about U.S. relations, he ushered us both (I was interpreting) into his bathroom.

He would not speak in his formal study because he was suspicious that it was being bugged. And the gist of his conversation was a complaint about the subversive activities of the American government….


Looks like Lumumba was correct, the CIA was planning to assassinate him and did.

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38:00 Colonel: I will say all of this was on purpose, because when you go into the Soviet Union, you find that GE is electrifying the Soviet Union. You find all the railroad barons putting all the railroads throughout the Soviet Union. You also find between WWI and WWII the way Germany got around the barring of them re-developing their military capability, is that they went into the Soviet Union, their “supposed enemy,” and built military production capability in the Soviet Union to re-weaponize Germany.

38:50 — Brady: When they had their oil tariff, [I think he means sanction – GC] when they were at war with England and were not able to get foreign oil, They started using GE plants to basically convert organics into oil. That was American technology.

39:00 — Colonel: Anyone who thinks these are all separate issues is ignorant.

There is a cycle… in order to set up Operation Gladio, it is going to take a lot of money for weapons, it is going to take a lot of money for the stashes of money, it is going to take a lot of money for the training and the travel to the training locations. So they are setting up a major business. It is like a paramilitary world wide personal army…. So they are going to bust in on the drug trade that at that time been monopolized by the French and the Corsican Mafia in Marseilles. They had a huge pharmaceutical company that actually was the heron refineries. You will find the Operation Gladio operations will travel around the drug harvesting. There will be banks that pop-up for money laundering. There will be weapons that go into an area mainly in the form of military operations. They will use false flags like we did in Vietnam. Because Vietnam was a huge poppy supplier. Britian had already done it in the Opium Wars in China… That is why you have the bank HSBC in Hong Kong. That was to money launder all the opium money coming from China.

So you have patterns of large banks, BCCI got setup when the poppy fields moved to Afghanistan. They are on the border with Pakistan so you have the big money laundering … So you have these patterns, of drugs, money laundering, weapons, because every time you have a military operation those weapons get siphoned off. That is how you find them fed into Operation Gladio. As we move forward and talk about operations that were carried out in Italy, both explosions and assassinations. You will find guns from NATO. You will find explosives ONLY supplied to NATO by the USA because they skim off the top.

The reason they have these military operations is to guard the poppy fields and steal weaponry.

42:00 Brady: I will take it back a step further. The OSS was operating in China alongside Chiang Kai-shek and his drug mafia called the Green gang. When Mao won the war when the USA pulled its support for Chiang Kai-shek, the opium trade in China had to move so they moved it into the Triangle; Afghanistan, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. Fast forward a decade and we have another Intervention War with the CIA. They are flying all this stuff into Cuba to be refined before it hits the American streets. When Castro took Cuba, the CIA was NOT HAPPY at all. It has always been a burr in their saddle.

[End Transcript]

I placed the rest of the Cuba, CIA, JFK part of transcript at the top of the article.

To be Continued next week.

DEAR KMAG 20250305 USS LIBERTY & DAILY THREAD

The USS Liberty

Colonel Towner has mentioned on more than one occasion that God is guiding her. If she’s speaking and she comes to a dead end, someone in her audience pipes up with “Have you read…” and she is off and running again. The same has happened to me. I was wondering how I was going to move forward on the Mercantilism theme and pull a lot of threads together.

I have only listened to half a dozen or so of the 40-plus Gladio videos by Colonel Towner and Alpha Warrior. It is a daunting task to catch up, especially if I am going to transcribe at least a few parts of them. Yesterday my curiosity bone got the better of me, and I skipped ahead and listened to the first USAID video. Towards the end Colonel Towner said she would be covering Benghazi, and I thought she meant USAID Part II. So I skipped around listening to parts of the video looking for the Benghazi section, and landed in a spot where she mentioned she would be interviewing a survivor of the USS Liberty. I already knew something about the USS Liberty. With curiosity driving me and a bit more hunting I found The Colonel’s Corner Rumble Channel. I was so angry after listening to the first minutes, I posted a few bits to Sunday’s Dear MAGA: 20250302 Open Topic

Wolfie responded with:
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy(@wolfmoon1776) LINK

I still don’t buy that [prisoner murders] as being the reason for the attack on the Liberty. It’s too small-potatoes. IMO that rationale is post-failure disinformation from both Mossad and the USG, meant to muddy the waters. One of many bogus reasons that were floated.

IMO there was a concocted plot by Johnson (who was truly evil) and elements in Israel who wanted America to enter the war [THAT is the kind of reason they needed – like 9/11] and thought that an attack on am American ship would be just the thing he needed to get us in. The attack failed to take out the radio, and the betrayal of our own troops by Johnson failed.

IMO Johnson and his bad actors and allies were behind all the assassinations and false flags like Gulf of Tonkin.

Thus, I simply can’t blame the Israeli government, when our own was involved, too – and was arguably WORSE. AND – at the same time – none of this justifies the Palestinians, the Arab attackers, the terrorists, or the attack on Israel.

Johnson was an evil POS, who would gladly sacrifice a boat of innocent men for politics. FUCK HIM and everybody who plotted with him – American and Israeli.

These people have not quit, and they will not quit. I lay both 9/11 and Ukraine (WWIII, if they can get it) at their feet.

Wolfie was correct I got taken-in by the Prisoner massacre Limited Hang-out although Colonel Towner does mention it towards the end as one of the reasons. I had heard about the massacre several weeks prior to listening to the video. After reflecting on the entire video, and hearing Phil Tourney’s plea that the TRUE story be told, I decided to write this article.

If you want the short and sweet version of WHY the attack on the USS Liberty:


Israel’s dirty trade in Africa: Diamonds, weapons and settlements
by Hassan Al-Assi


Israel is considered one of the most important countries that import rough diamonds, and the most prominent countries that export polished diamonds. Most of these diamonds come from African countries such as South Africa, Liberia, Congo, Ivory Coast amongst others. These countries are directly linked to groups committing massacres against civilians in order to obtain diamonds, and trade with these diamonds leads to the death of tens of thousands of people annually in the countries of origin. The sale and export of these diamonds are linked to major arms deals, the creation of civil wars and financing the fighting groups. This has caused the diamond trade in Africa to be called the dirty trade, the jewels are called “blood diamonds” because the blood of thousands of Africans is shed in order to extract and market them…


This is from a UK publication with a decidedly Muslim slant. Therefore we have to see if there is supporting evidence.


From WIKI:

The diamond industry of Israel is an important world player in producing cut diamonds for wholesale. In 2010, Israel became the chair of the Kimberley Process Certification Scheme.[1] As of 2016, cut diamonds constituted 23.2% of Israel’s total exports and they were the country’s biggest export product, amounting to 12% of the world’s production.

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First, I urge everyone to actually listen to what this man has to say. (1hr 11 minutes)

I do not have the time to write a full transcript so a few key points… DARN IT! Oh well I got sucked in and did more of a transcript than I planned. So, as usual, I am going to split the material into two articles.


Very Rough Transcript. I am not going to put it in quotes.

3 minutes to 12 minutes: Colonel Towner mentions Lyman Lemnitzer, commander of the United Nations forces in the Korean War (1955–57.) He was Kennedy’s Joint Chief of Staff from 1960 to 1962. Kennedy wanted to get rid of him, but instead of firing the SOB, Kennedy, not knowing what NATO was up to, sent him to serve as the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe of NATO from 1963 to 1969. THIS IS WHILE NATO assassins were deployed to Texas. [He was one NASTY piece of work! GC]

Towner explains that de Gaulle and Kennedy were trying to oust the UK from Africa where the UK and Israel were stealing all the diamonds. Egypt and the Suez Canal were the buffer protecting Israel from retaliation by Africa. Egypt was under British control from 1882 to 1922. When Egypt gained independence, Nasser took control of the Suez Canal FROM the UK. So the UK moved to the Port of Aden in Yemen. Yemen is STILL fighting a two-front war today. Towner then goes into how the CIA was spying on the communication of most countries including Egypt. Therefore they KNEW Egypt was sending troops to help Yemen just prior to this travesty.

15 mins – Phil Tourney said Israel got antsy and started the war early, that is why we took off as quick as we did. The rest of the crew and I figured this was planned out probably a year in advance. We were set-up by our own government. We were going into a war zone and asked for destroyer escort twice and were denied by NoName’s Father,  Admiral John Sidney McCain Jr.

16 mins – Col Towner interrupts and say this is typical of the CIA & US Navy. They did the same thing to the USS Indianapolis in the pacific during WW II when they took the warheads over there. They left them without an escort KNOWING the subs were going to get them and then court-martialed the surviving Captain. The Navy is one of the most cruel ass… that has ever existed! … Phil’s story is NOT an isolated incident. This is why history is so important.

17 mins – Phil: We were 12.5 miles off the coast of the Sinai. (June 6th) We were ALWAYS in international waters. June 7th we see Israeli DC3s. We saw & waved at the pilots & they waved at us. Saw them on the 8th They were taking pictures of us. We only had four 50 caliber machine guns. We picked up messages that Israel KNEW we were an American Ship. We had a brand new flag and the ship had just been refurbished so it had a newly painted name.

21 mins – Phil Tourney starts describing the attack… You cannot imagine what they did to us. Rockets, cannons, napalm, machine guns… every [operational] antenna they hit on the first pass. Within 3 seconds every antenna and every water tight door above the water line was destroyed. One antenna that was out of commission was not destroyed. The air attack lasted for 25 minutes. They used unmarked black planes. [French made.] At least 12 planes and 30 sorties. On the first pass they shot down the US flag. Sailors put up another brand new one. Shot that down. Put up HUGE holiday flag that stayed up. During those 25 minutes the ship got a message out by repairing the last antenna.

25 mins — Col Towner points out that those sailors went out while those planes were raining fire to put up a flag so it was a KNOWN attack on an American ship in international waters. THIS IS CRITICAL TO THE STORY. [She explains the Flag is very important because it means you cannot call it a mistaken ID -GC]

26 min Phil: Our radio message was picked up as far away as Vietnam. The 6th Fleet picked it up. Captain Tully of the USS Saratoga immediately launched aircraft to come to our aid. They were called back by [US Secretary of Defense] Robert McNamara. A few minutes later Captain Tully & Captain Ingen of the USS America went to launched planes again. Before they could get underway, President Johnson got on the air and said RECALL THOSE GOD DAMN PLANES, I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT A FEW DEAD SAILORS, I WILL NOT EMBARRASS MY ALLY!

Phil: So how did he know who was attacking us if WE DID NOT KNOW?


So that right there tells you we were set up to be sunk by the Zionist State in order to bring us into WW III.

29 mins — Colonel Towner points out that the USS Liberty’s actual mission was to spy on the African countries trying to free themselves from the US and European piranhas. The sacrifice of the USS Liberty was about setting up a regime change in Egypt and destroying the evidence of the spying.

30 mins – Phil: The Aircraft attack was followed by an attack by 3 torpedo boats with the Star of David. The boats fired five torpedoes from 1000, 800 yards away. Two went aft, one hit the communication spaces, don’t know where the others went. Colonel Towner suggests it was to get rid of evidence. The attack went on for another hour and a half. The total attack lasted 2 hours. Help was only 40 minutes away but the US government would not allow help. They left us for 17 hours. The USS America and the destroyer USS David finally showed up…. We had 34 dead and 174 wounded….

34 min — Phil: The Israeli torpedo boats continuously circled the ship, firing 50-caliber machine guns and armor-piercing rounds into us. We thought we were going to sink. We put the most seriously wounded into the three life rafts we had left. The Israelis shot two of them out of the water and took the last on board their boat as a trophy of their kill. [REMEMBER THOSE BOATS WOULD HAVE THE NAME AND USA DESIGNATION PRINTED ON IT!!! SEE: 46 CFR § 199.176 – Markings on lifesaving appliances. current — GC]

Also lifeboats are protected and the Israelis DAMN WELL KNEW IT!

Convention (II) for the Amelioration of the Condition of Wounded, Sick and Shipwrecked Members of Armed Forces at Sea. Geneva, 12 August 1949.

A. Introduction

2149  The protection of ‘small craft employed … for coastal rescue operations’ is not surprising, because they have long rendered assistance to those in distress at sea, whether civilians or wounded, sick or shipwrecked persons protected under the applicable provisions of international humanitarian law. In numerous States, rescue craft were, and continue to be, operated by coastal municipalities, private associations, individual volunteers or State organs, whether the armed forces or other governmental institutions. The vessels employed for life-saving purposes range from rowing and rubber boats to technologically sophisticated craft that can operate far off the coast and in difficult sea conditions…..

a. Additional Protocol I

2168  While Article 22(3) of Additional Protocol I does not modify the substantive protection afforded to coastal rescue craft, it removes an important procedural requirement of the Second Convention, by providing that:

Small craft described in Article 27 of the Second Convention shall be protected even if the notification envisaged by that Article 27 has not been made. The Parties to the conflict are, nevertheless, invited to inform each other of any details of such craft which will facilitate their identification and recognition….


They wanted NO SURVIVORS.
It was the grace of God, the Hand of God that kept that ship up. We were just his servants that day. He deserves all the credit. Jesus Christ does. He kept us alive for moments like this. To tell the truth. — Phil Tourney


36 min — Colonel Towner makes clear that command knew that the USS Liberty was under attack. She says that within 5 minutes of the attack, via relays, London, Spain (where the ship was launched from), the Secretary of Defense’s office, the White House, CIA, NSA… would ALL KNOW that the USS Liberty was under attack, AND FOR SEVENTEEN HOURS THE US GOVERNMENT DID NOT DO A FUCKING THING TO HELP THEM!

37:30 Phil: Two days after the attack we were headed to Malta which is 1,000 miles away. We have a 40X40 torpedo hole in our side. The closest port was Crete [~400 miles or less – GC]. We never could figure that one out.

Flag admiral Isaac Kidd & his Jag officer came on board and interrogated what crew was left aboard the ship….

[Side Note:Kidd was Supreme Allied Commander of NATO‘s Atlantic Fleet. In 1967, he was chosen by his friend and colleague Admiral John S. McCain Jr. to head the Naval Court of Inquiry into the USS Liberty incident during the Six-Day War in June of that year ” – WIKI]

We are in sick bay, he takes off his stars and tosses them on the table. He says I know you guys have been thru hell but I have got to get this while it is fresh in your mind. Tell me everything that happened…. Then he said, I am putting my stars back on. I had asked him, “Admiral how come you did not send help?”

He puts his stars back on and said:

I am going to tell every one of you Sons of Bitches. And he got right in my face. If you ever breath a word about what you just told me, any of you, I will make sure you end up in prison or worse!! Do you know what WORSE MEANS? [Phil explains it means DEAD. -GC]

Yes sir I do…. I didn’t talk of it for 18 years.

I had to sign an agreement I would never sue Israel or the USA and they gave me $200 bucks for my signature and said SIGN IT!

42 Min — Colonel Towner tells why they were sent to Malta instead of Crete. Crete is part of Greece. Greece is part of NATO and NATO is who attacked you guys. You would have talked to Greek citizens and all of this would have been exposed. Malta has always been used since WWII to hide their criminally. Because it is isolated everything around you was controlled. No one was allowed access that was not a part of the scheme. That could not have happened in Crete. Phil agrees.

We were there for 33 days. Lists damage. There was NO [REAL] investigation. By orders of John McCain & LBJ it was called mistaken identity…. Every one from LBJ to Trump has bought that crap….

We were sent there to be sunk by Israel so they could blame it on Nasser and Egypt. And Israel would have taken over the entire Middle East. The land grab they are doing now would have happened then.

46 min — Col Towner Holds up book Operation Cyanide [2003 by British journalist Peter Hounam] He documents the B-52s sitting on the tarmac being given the ready mission to start their engines to fly. This was BEFORE the first bombing [of the USS Liberty] ….

Phil: If you write congress be ready to be lied to… they never investigated…

As Thomas Massie said Everybody’s got an AIPAC handler and I guess they had them back then too….


Phil is correct. American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs was founded in 1951 It later changed it’s name to American Israel Public Affairs Committee [AIPAC] Source Watch:

49 min — Col Towner. So that brings us to the last point. During the last five years there have been three instances revealed. The Ross Setter massacre that happened on June 8th of 1967. The Mass grave on the West Bank, which Israel turned into a national park. Another mass grave was discover on 5 June, which would have been part of the 6 day war. And the E-L-E-L-A-R-I-S-H massacre. That one happened… where the USS Liberty was. They were sailing in Egyptian international water right north of this town El Arish. This is where the Israelis murdered prisoners of war and buried them…. So during the course of their surveillance of this war zone Mass Murder by the IDF was happening along the coast.

This is not isolated. It was just like we did in Vietnam, in Nicaragua, in Guatemala. The USA has done this as well. We have buried people in mass graves. It happened in Cambodia. The CIA unleashed terrorists that resulted in casualties that resulted in mass graves. This is what Israel was participating in and it is my summation that because of the SIGINET, the advanced capability, all that information would have been picked up by the linguist and transmitted.

THIS IS CRITICAL. There would be no denying that the USA and all of NATO knew the atrocities that Israel was committing and the USS Translators, not the crew were instantly murdered when that torpedo hit that boat. They would be the sole surviving people who could attest to those atrocities….

Who benefited from it?

Israel ended up with All of Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and the Sinai Peninsula. They go to war again in 73 and then they have a peace settlement in 1979. The massacre in the Golan Heights happened right after the USS Liberty was taken out. That is not unlike what just happened with the Hamas Attack on Israel on October 7. It was not an immediate response to Gaza, just like for Israel, it was not an immediate attack in response. Well they did the initial attack in Egypt, but they did it at the same time all over. They’re conquering all of the surrounding area.

That is what it is ALWAYS ABOUT. It is a DIVERSION OVER HERE to go over here.

[What Col Towner is talking about is an incident in one middle east country is then used to attack several others. We just saw this with Gaza, the attacks spread to Iran, Jordan, Syria and Yemen. When everything is over, Israel will end up expanding into more areas. LINK – GC]

You have to understand they have an ultimate goal. Any one who is in the way of that ultimate goal is fair game for being killed.

54 min — Phil: We were sacrificial lambs, the soldiers were sacrificial lambs and the goal was a land grab…. Our goal is to tell the truth…. They got paid MORE MONEY BY THE UNITED STATES then they ever did in their existence FOR MURDERING AMERICAN SERVICEMEN on the high seas doing what their government had ordered them to do.

Talk about this is the first time they are able to get the word out and this is not the first betrayal. The press never helped us, the government never helped us, Congress never helped us. No one came to help us.

IN FACT THE AMERICAN LEGION? We had 2 men there… 5 or 6 years ago. [to set-up] a booth handing out our stuff about the USS Liberty. They would not let us have a booth. We sent a $1,000 for the booth. They said they never got the check. So we said OK we will pay cash or credit card… Then they said NO!! YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE!

56:30 Col Towner: The American Legion is notorious for being part of the collusion of the CIA to STIFLE VETERANS ISSUES.

Phil : Absolutely. Glenn… tore his American Legion Card up and sprinkled it on a woman’s chest, her boobs. He did not throw it at her. So they arrested him for assault and put him in jail. He still has it on his record. The USS Liberty is BANNED from ever attending any of their meetings….

Col Towner: Let me ask you something that was in Peter’s [Hounam] book. He documents the fact that a USS submarine was basically shadowing you guys and that there was also a Russian submarine that watched the torpedo portion of this. And I have read other accounts of this that they gave up the final attack on sinking the USS Liberty because now there were other witnesses.

58:20 Phil: that could very well be so. The USS Amberjack, [Gato-class submarine – GC] we heard filmed it. And the USS Andrew Jackson [Lafayette-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine – GC] was there also. And as you mentioned a Russian submarine that was ready to hit Israel, only minutes away if everything went as planned. They were going to Nuke Israel for what they were doing to Egypt. Us not sinking put a wrench in their plans. I bet they are still scratching their heads…

59 min — Col Towner: I have done a lot of research into Gladio and Gladio being basically regime change overthrow with over 90 of them successful since WWII. Over 400 of them attempted.

What you always find looming in the background, like when we were trying to do it in Algeria and several Eastern European countries immediately after WWII. The Soviet Union had spies everywhere and they were able to thwart most of it… The story of the Russian sub, after knowing what I know about the Soviet Union always seeming to be one step ahead in protection … When I read about the Russian sub, I thought “Well that is interesting,” because I wonder if they were actually there because they knew what NATO was going to do to the USS Liberty and if they would have used it for blackmail. If the Liberty had sunk, they would forever have had the ability to control a whole bunch of different things, They would have had blackmail material. And maybe they used it anyway because they KNEW WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM.

1hr 1 min — Phil: Absolutely. They knew exactly what was going on. Russia is not stupid….

…..

Commenter BridgetGray posted photos of the USS Liberty.

https://twitter.com/winggal_123/status/1888266685141930057?s=61

The Liberty Survivors website is:

https://ussliberty.org

Lots of info. at the site.

Phil requests donations.

Liberty Veterans Association
PO Box 3000
Pawley’s Island, SC 29585

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

A bit more about the USS Liberty.

Why a BBC documentary while Americans are kept in the dark?🤔

“USS Liberty: Dead In The Water” (1 hr BBC Documentary 2002)

OPERATION CYANIDE – An Israeli-American False Flag Operation Aimed At Egypt

…Jets armed with nuclear bombs were actually scrambled from the carrier USS America with orders to nuke Cairo.  Once Defense Secretary McNamara and Lying Bastard Johnson realized that the Liberty had not sunk, and that U.S. eyewitnesses were not only alive, but were actually communicating with other American ships, the U.S. jets carrying the nukes were recalled to their carrier by direct orders from McNamara and Johnson….

The Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty — Paul Craig Roberts

After reading this I now understand why Dr Roberts has no love of Israel.

This article is based entirely on documented sources and on interviews with six USS Liberty survivors, as well as Captain Ward Boston and Bill Knutson, the executive officer of the USS America fighter squadron dispatched on the first aborted rescue mission.

For a number of years Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was my colleague at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Tom… expressed to me his concern that US politics and foreign policy was in the clutches of Israel and that America was being led into war with the Arab Middle East. Admiral Moorer and the State Department and Pentagon at that time did not think that war with the Arab countries served the interests of the United States. However, Admiral Moorer thought that the war could not be avoided because of the hold Israel has over the US government.

What convinced him of this was Washington’s cover-up of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty which resulted in 208 killed and wounded Americans. Tom was disheartened that Admiral John S. McCain Jr…. for career reasons had cooperated with the cover-up. Tom worried that careerism had destroyed the integrity of the US military…

I had already seen that Admiral Moorer’s prediction that Israel would have us in war against the Arabs had come true. I still hear his bitter statement that “no American president can stand up to Israel.” Tom was deeply wounded by the betrayal of the US Navy by the Commander-in-Chief. The Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff was powerless before the Israel Lobby.

The US government’s official position on the USS Liberty corresponds with Israel’s: The attack was unintentional and a result of Israeli blunders. This is the official position despite the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Assistant Secretary of State Lucius Battle, and a long list of US Navy officers, government officials and Liberty survivors are on record saying the Israeli attack was intentional…

Survivors with whom I spoke said the attack was the easy part of the experience. The hard part has been living with 40 years of official cover-up and betrayal by the US government. One survivor said that he was asked to leave his Baptist church when he spoke about the Liberty, because the minister and fellow church-goers felt more loyalty to Israel than to a member of the congregation who had served his country. His church’s position was that if our government believed Israel, the survivors should also….

A State Secret: The Closest the U.S. Ever Came to a Nuclear Confrontation: June 8, 1967

…on June 8, 1967 two A-4 bomber aircraft loaded with nuclear bombs were dispatched from the aircraft carrier USS America, bound for Cairo with orders to drop those bombs on that city.[1]…

…According to Mike Ratigan, who served on board that carrier as a center-deck catapult operator responsible for maintaining the catapult in working order. He remembered the call to general quarters (battle stations) in the early afternoon of June 8, 1967, later learning that this was due to the attack on the Liberty. The A-4 bombers were each fitted with two bombs having a gold-colored tip, a type that he had never seen before: “I’d never seen that particular type of ordnance, and as we had gone into Condition November (notice of imminent nuclear war) subsequent to being in general quarters, it was definitely not a drill. Marine guards were escorting the A-4, and that was a very unusual experience. I’d never seen anything like that in the four years that I was in the Navy as a Cat operator.”….

Dear KMAG 20241211

NOTE FROM WOLF

Gail Combs is still having intermittent trouble both editing and posting on WordPress. This is her draft, fixed up and key-worded as best as I could, on short notice.

W


Gail Combs:

At first I was going to do a round-up of all of POTUS Trump’s picks via screen shots and then realized it would be WAY too long. Also the images would eat up too much time loading and possibly overwhelm Steve’s internet service. Therefore I am going to delve into some of the concerns raised. (If people are interested I can do the Trump picks as a separate article or possibly series of article to chronicle this Historic Post Election period.)

Given the skuttlebutt about Biden pardons, this maybe of interest:

Protect Democracy Org — Checking the Pardon Power: Constitutional Limitations & Options for Preventing Abuse

Note: Protect Democracy promotes the Committee for Safe and Secure Elections (CSSE) – InfluenceWatch 

CSSE was established in June 2022 by members of the William J. Brennan Center for Justice, the Elections GroupProtect Democracy, and the R Street Institute.

Checking the Pardon Power’s Image for Authoritarian Threat – Response

I do love boomerangs… 😂

One QTreeper linked to this Gateway Pundit article recently:


INGRASSIA: America’s Political Tradition Comes From The Constitution: The Trump Mandate Calls For A Restoration Of Its Original Meaning And Preeminence

The author, Paul Ingrassia, is a Constitutional Scholar so it is worth reading in it’s entirety.

…The second branch of the government – aptly outlined under Article II, is the executive. The executive branch, under the Constitution’s very explicit original formulation (which, contrary to the overwhelming sentiment in today’s Washington, is an article that has not undergone emendation…) is vested entirely (in noticeable contradistinction to “mostly” or “largely”) in a (again, singular, one) President of the United States (“The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America” …the executive branch is the only one under our Constitution – which, again, is the law of the land – that is vested in a single individual….

In official duties, the President – or Chief Magistrate – is tasked with law enforcement. He is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, ensuring civilian control over the military — not, as our latter-day betters would have us believe, something to be outsourced to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or the Pentagon, or lobbyists and consultants working for Raytheon.

Being singular or unitary, the President appoints cabinet secretaries and federal judges. The latter [Should be former -GC] answer to him alone. And while Congressional approval, in some cases, is needed to fulfill the President’s constitutional obligation for nominations, the President – as the Unitary Executive – has full discretion over the tenures of each and every one of his underlings within the executive department

As for the agencies (and the larger bureaucracy), the acute observer will find – well, problematic – that no such fourth branch of government exists within the text of the Constitution…

Ingrassia makes the case that the federal bureaucracy is UNDER the executive branch, that is the PRESIDENT and therefore should be answerable to him. “…the President – as the Unitary Executive – has full discretion over the tenures of each and every one of his underlings within the executive department….” The following article from The Congressional Research Service (.gov) shows how Congress has gradually taken control of the executive from the President and turned it into an unelected, unfireable autocratic government aka The Deep State or Shadow Government.


Federal Labor Relations Statutes: An Overview

This article deals with the ‘Head of that Snake’ THE SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE

….

The president is also the commander-in-chief of the armed forces but even here the Cabal, via congress, has encroached on his powers.


Duke Univ: Can Presidents ‘fire’ senior military officers? Generally, yes…but it’s complicated

…A little history: up until the end of the Civil War, the President exercised virtually unconstrained power to dismiss military officers.  However, in 1865 Congress passed legislation which purports to limit that power.  That legislation was essentially the same as that found today codified in 10 USC § 1161(a).

The legitimacy of Congress imposing statutory restrictions on the authority of the President to remove military officers was initially “subject of doubt and discussion.”  It remains controversial even today, particularly since there doesn’t seem to be a case precisely on point as to the constitutionality.

👉Nevertheless, the better view does seem to suggest that Congress has the power to set some limits on the President’s dismissal authority – at least in times of peace….

The BETTER VIEW? In whose view? The Cabal’s? Note that article was written AFTER Obama’s Purge of around 200 top Military Officers. See List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama and Obama purged military of those who sought victory

Ingrassia says:

To continue our analogy from above, the President is roughly akin to a British King – a comparison made both favorably and unfavorably throughout the Federalist Papers, that handbook to aid constitutional interpretation and explanation, devised by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay.

Thus we can go to The Federalist Papers, IF you can find them, to see what our founders actually meant… If you have any doubts. I had to use Yandex to actually find the papers.

[Listing of papers: https://www.federalistpapers.org/2012/12/federalist-papers.html]


FEDERALIST No. 23. The Necessity of a Government as Energetic as the One Proposed to the Preservation of the Union & No. 74. The Command of the Military and Naval Forces, and the Pardoning Power of the Executive.


…THE President of the United States is to be “commander-in-chief of the army and navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several States when called into the actual service of the United States.” The propriety of this provision is so evident in itself, and it is, at the same time, so consonant to the precedents of the State constitutions in general, that little need be said to explain or enforce it. 👉Even those of them which have, in other respects, coupled the chief magistrate with a council, have for the most part concentrated the military authority 👉in him alone. Of all the cares or concerns of government, the direction of war most peculiarly demands those qualities which distinguish 👉the exercise of power by a single hand

Given Obama’s purge of the military and the loss of the smarter officers during the Clot Shot debacle, I think this is a very important part of POTUS Trump’s executive powers. Can You Really Be Recalled to Active Duty at Any Time? [YES!]

Q even say in Drop 2658

….PANIC IN DC?
WHY?
WHAT WAS LOST?
POWER OF THE PURSE.
COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY.
POWER TO REPLACE SENIOR OFFICIALS WITHIN CRUCIAL GOV POSITIONS (DEPT’S) WHO CAN THEN REPLACE SR+MID+LOW POSITIONS (TRICKLE_DOWN REPLACEMENT).
POWER TO APPOINT SC JUSTICES.
(What if HRC won and appointed 2+ crooked SCJs?)
(The Last Resort)
POWER TO DIRECTLY UNDO HUSSEIN/PREV EO’S WHICH HARMED-GREATLY LIMITED THE US IN MANY VITAL/NEC WAYS.
POWER TO REBUILD THE UNITED STATES MILITARY (BACK) TO A GLOBAL SUPER POWER.
(CHINA PAYOFFS (BRIBE $) FAILURE)

POWER TO ENACT LAWS BY EO TO COMBAT AND PROTECT OUR PEOPLE.
POWER TO SHIFT FOREIGN POLICY THEREBY REDUCING OUR ENEMIES ABILITY TO PROSPER AND SOMEDAY REIGN.
(IRAN DEAL – PARIS ACCORD – CHINA TRADE – SYRIA – ………………….)
POWER TO DECLAS CRUCIAL DOCS TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC W/ THE TRUTH (TRANSPARENCY).
POWER TO GIVE BACK POWER TO THE PEOPLE (AS INTENDED BY OUR FOUNDERS).
LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD.

….

Ingrassia also cites Article III dealing with the establishment of the federal courts: the Supreme Court and the other federal courts. So let’s take a look at this branch of government since it is responsible for enforcing US law and the Constitution…. But IT HAS NOT! We pay attention to the DC government but most often over look the long term damage done by the corrupted judiciary.


U.S. Constitution – Article III | Constitution

Section 1

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office….

Section 2

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed…. [We now have trial by JUDGES or BUREAUCRATS and not juries BTW. – GC]

Section 3

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason…


So can Trump fire federal judges? NO, not according to Publius Huldah. I am a BIG FAN of this lady and I hope POTUS Trump finds a use for her, perhaps in JAG.

From her ABOUT page.
“…Publius Huldah” is the nom de guerre of Joanna Martin, J.D., who is a thoroughly nice person, in addition to all the above.  And if you hear otherwise, consider this from Socrates, who reportedly said, “When the debate is lost, slander is the weapon of the loser” [Boy, haven’t we seen the truth of that ancient wisdom! Also, if some one is slandered by the MSM, that means they are a threat to the Deep State in IMHO, – GC]


right out of law school & newly commissioned US Army JAGC

To the Department of Homeland Security:

I am delighted to  learn of your intense & increasing interest in learning the original intent of Our Constitution!  Please feel free to browse around to  your hearts’ content.

😂 The comments are worth reading BTW


A search for the word “Judge” on her site turns up some real goodies — LINK. She has a similar opinion of the Supreme Court and judges to mine. 😡


Defeat “COVID” Mandates by restoring the Genuine Meaning of the “privileges and immunities” and “due process” clauses

Someone asked me why I write on the US Constitution when the US Supreme Court won’t enforce it.

This is why:  Our Declaration of Independence recognizes the self-evident Truth that Rights come from God, and that they are unalienable.  Accordingly, there are certain areas of your life which are off-limits to government regulation – you have an “immunity” from governmental regulation of these areas.

But since the federal and state governments are refusing to recognize our Rights, it falls on us to boldly step up to the plate and insist that our Rights be respected.  You have no lawful, moral, or religious duty to submit to a government when it violates our Constitution and seeks to take from you the rights God gave you.

Governments do not have constitutional authority to force you to take the COVID JAB.

And in this paper I show that the “privileges and immunities” and “due process” clauses of the US Constitution prohibit the federal, state, and local governments from requiring you to be “jabbed” or putting you into a concentration camp if they assert that you are at “high risk” of getting infected [i.e., those who are 65 years of age or older]….

Why Supreme Court opinions are not the “Law of the Land”, and how to put federal judges in their place.

PLEASE READ!!! Huldah is a Constitutional scholar and lawyer. Her evisceration of the judiciary and Congress is Epic. [COSP =Convention of States Project, Mark Levin is an advocate BTW and thus a viper. I noticed after I pointed that out years ago at OT, the web page disappeared. 🤔]

One of her foot notes from another article: Transgenders in the Military – Who Decides: Congress, the President, or Federal Judges?

4 I trust you see why Hamilton is viciously smeared. The relentless attacks on our Framers have a purpose: Take them down – and our Foundation is destroyed. Hamilton wrote most of The Federalist Papers, which Madison and Jefferson recognized as the best evidence of the genuine meaning of our Constitution.  What effect do these constant attacks on Hamilton have on peoples’ respect for The Federalist Papers? Beware of false friends who undermine our Foundation; and of jealous men whose claim to fame is that they attack Hamilton. [In looking up various Federalist Papers on Brave, I have come across some doozys but could not find the actual papers, just commentary. — GC]


This is her conclusion in her article on Transgenders in the Military.

Conclusion

Let us put the federal courts in their proper place! Congress and the President have the recognized power to refuse to go along with unconstitutional or ultra vires acts of the Judicial Branch; and their Oaths of office require them to do so. Congress also has the power to rid us of usurping federal judges via the impeachment process.


You could also apply this reasoning to Biden using the US Military as guinea pigs for targets of a BIOWEAPON. She addresses that too in the first article I cited: Why Supreme Court opinions are not the “Law of the Land”

1. First Principles

Let’s analyze COSP’s silly argument. We begin by looking at First Principles:

♦The Judicial Branch was created by Art. III, §1, US Constitution. Accordingly, it is a “creature” of the Constitution. 1

♦The federal government came into existence when the States, acting through special ratifying conventions held in each of the States, ratified the Constitution.2

Since the Judicial Branch is merely a “creature” of the Constitution, it follows that it is subordinate to the Constitution, and is completely subject to its terms. It may not annul the superior authority of the States which created the Judicial Branch when they ratified the Constitution; and as a mere “creature” of the Constitution, it may NOT change the Constitution under which it holds its existence! 4

.we elect to Congress people who don’t know our Constitution or The Federalist Papers; and they are unaware of their Duty – imposed by their Oath of office – to function as a “check” on the Judicial Branch by impeaching federal judges who violate our Constitution.


The “Taxing Clause”, Five Lawless Judges, and obamacare

… we delegated only a very few powers to the federal government.

Accordingly, Congress has strictly limited legislative powers over the Country at large. These powers are listed primarily at Art. I, §8, clauses 3-16, and are restricted to war, international commerce & relations; and domestically, the creation of an uniform commercial system: weights & measures, patents & copyrights, a monetary system based on gold & silver, bankruptcy laws, mail delivery & roads. Several Amendments delegate to Congress some power over civil rights.

These enumerated powers are the only areas where the federal government has lawful authority over The States and The People in The States.  In all other matters [except those listed at Art. I, §10]the States and The People retain supremacy, independence, and sovereignty. Go here for a complete list of all of Congress’ Enumerated Powers.

Obamacare is altogether unconstitutional because it is outside the scope of the legislative powers We granted to Congress. 👉 Nothing in Our Constitution authorizes the federal government to control our medical care 👈 (or to exercise the other fearsome powers in the Act)...


The Oath Of Office: The Check On Usurpations By Congress, The Executive Branch, & Federal Judges.

… it is a President’s sworn duty to refuse to enforce any unconstitutional “law” made by Congress. And contrary to the misinformation with which we are constantly bombarded, judges are not vested with exclusive authority to declare Acts of Congress unconstitutional.

The Truth is that a President, the States, local governments, 👉and individual citizens👈, together with the courts, all have the Right &Duty to overrule – to spurn & cast out – unconstitutional laws made by Congress. For it is a fundamental [though long suppressed] Principle of our Founding that an unconstitutional “law” is no “law” at all – it is a “mere usurpation, and deserves to be treated as such”…

I am going to detour to what I consider an important topic in my old notes, JURY NULLIFICATION. It is the American citizens FINAL SAY on the laws passed by our representatives. From 2015:

A pamphlet told the juror what his Constitutional rights and obligations were. This is information the JUDGE should be clearly stating to EVERY JURY. INSTEAD He was arrested for handing out literature. LINK

In fact this is becoming a LAW in some states thanks to the groups handing out the pamphlets.

This is perhaps THE MOST IMPORTANT move any American can make to protect our freedom. WE as Jurorists have the RIGHT and duty to judge not only the case by the LAW itself. We as Jurorists CAN set aside laws passed by Congress! This is the ultimate power of the people over the government and the Elite want to keep it hidden!

SEPTEMBER 30, 2007

WHAT JUDGES & LAWYERS WON’T TELL YOU ABOUT JURIES

…On appeal, however, the jurors’ action was upheld and the right of juries to judge both the law and the facts — to nullify the law if it chose — became part of British constitutional law.

It ultimately became part of American constitutional law as well, With only a few exceptions, juries are explicitly or implicitly told to worry only about the facts and let the judge decide the law.

The right of jury nullification has become one of the legal system’s best kept secrets.

Now a remarkable coalition has sprung up to challenge this secrecy as undemocratic, unconstitutional and dangerous…

FIJA seeks to require that juries be informed of their nullification rights. Informed jury amendments have been filed as an initiative in seven states and legislation has been introduced in the Alaska state legislature.

Merely raising the issue of nullification can make prosecutors nervous, for it takes only one person aware of the right in order to hang a jury. In Washington, DC, where the concept was discussed in connection with the Marion Barry trial, a local television station reported that the US Attorney was worried that a jury might nullify the law in that case……

Far from being an unintended side-effect, jury nullification is explicitly authorized in the constitutions of 24 states. State Language on Jury Nullification

“…Merely raising the issue of nullification can make prosecutors nervous…”


Publius Huldah gets into WHY prosecutors become nervous and what has been done to our legal system.


The Trial of The Lawsuit Against The State of Arizona: Must Supreme Court Judges Obey The Constitution?

…The Federalist Papers were written during 1787-88 by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay, to explain the proposed Constitution to The People and to induce them to ratify it. Thus, The Federalist is the most authoritative commentary on the genuine meaning of Our Constitution.  And at a meeting of the Board of Visitors of the University of Virginia on March 4, 1825 at which Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were present, the following resolution selecting the texts for the Law school, was passed:

…on the distinctive principles of the government of our own state, and of that of the US. the best guides are to be found in 1. the Declaration of Independance, as the fundamental act of union of these states. 2. the book known by the title of `The Federalist’, being an authority to which appeal is habitually made by all, and rarely declined or denied by any as evidence of the general opinion of those who framed, and of those who accepted the Constitution of the US. on questions as to it’s genuine meaning…. (page 83)  [emphasis added]

So! Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence, and James Madison, Father of The Constitution, acknowledged the high authoritative status of The Federalist Papers.  They saw The Constitution as having a fixed meaning which one could learn by consulting The Federalist!

2. But supreme Court judges soon refused to submit to The Constitution as explained by The Federalist Papers. In 1907, former Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes said, “…the Constitution is what the judges say it is…”.  Judges thus rejected the objective standard provided by The Federalist, and substituted their own subjective interpretations. Law schools embraced this subversion:  Instead of teaching The Constitution as a set of fixed principles explained by The Federalist, they taught supreme Court opinions which say Congress may do whatever it pleases. They also taught that supreme Court judges have unbridled authority to say what the Constitution means. Law schools thus produced generations of constitutionally illiterate lawyers & judges who have been indoctrinated with the monstrous Lie that Our Constitution means whatever judges on the supreme Court say!  And because these lawyers failed in their sacred duty to think, and uncritically accepted what they were told, Our Country is on the brink of destruction….


Of course our John Dewey Progressive School System made DARN SURE Americans are completely ignorant of our Constitution, rights and remedies, the better to turn us into good little Marxist slaves.

On last,
Publius Huldah’s article on calling forth the militia.


Our Constitution provides two separate & independent methods for the federal government to “call forth the Militia” to suppress Insurrections

Because of its excellence and relevance to the insurrections being fomented in our cities by the Marxist organization “Black Lives Matter”, Antifa, and other revolutionary organizations; I sent the recent paper by Edwin Vieira, JD., Ph.D., titled, “The President’s Authority To Suppress Insurrections” [link], to my lists.

In response, some objected that the riots in the cities are local issues to be handled (or not) by the State and local governments – that they are not “federal” issues over which the federal government has jurisdiction. Some also asserted that Article IV, §4, US Constitution prohibits the President from sending the National Guard into a State to quell such disturbances, unless & until the Legislature or the Governor of the State requests it.

Those objections are not well-founded.

First: What’s going on in our cities is not something which can be prudently brushed aside. It is a classic manifestation of a Marxist revolution – see, e.g., this article from “Workers’ World”. Furthermore, as shown below, the President of the United States has constitutional and statutory authority to exercise his own judgment as to whether he should send in the “Militia” to suppress the uprisings.

Second: Our Constitution provides two separate and independent methods for the federal government to suppress such uprisings.

Dr. Vieira’s paper sets forth the other method of “calling forth the Militia” – the method provided for at Article I, §8, clauses 15 & 16, US Constitution. That provides for the intervention of the Militia within a State at the initiative of the federal government, regardless of whether the State requests it.. 1

I hope you enjoyed my tour through some of Publius Huldah’s articles and will continue reading her excellent commentary. I am now going to look at a few other articles of interest by others.


Security Clearances and Presidential Authority

….a recent Congressional Research Service report explains. “The criteria for election or appointment to these positions are specified in the U.S. Constitution, and except by constitutional amendment, no additional criteria (e.g., holding a security clearance) may be required.”

In fact, the security clearance system itself is an expression of presidential authority. Its scope and operation are defined in an executive order (EO 12968), and its terms can be modified by the President at will.

And if the President wished to grant access to classified information to a family member, for example, there would be no legal barrier to doing so…..

So that kills THAT objection by RINOs and Demonrats when it comes to ratifying POTUS Trump’s picks.

08/01/19 The Hill:

Senate Democrats demand Trump order review of White House Security Clearances

…Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson wrote in a letter to the senators earlier this month that he could not begin a review of the security clearance process without direction from Trump or one of his “designees” because “the authority over access to classified information ultimately rests with the President of the United States.”…

Of course the Senate has ZERO jurisdiction over Security Clearances so this is just more encroachment on the executive.

Matt Gaetz

So You CAN appoint a private citizen as a Special Counsel, and they can begin their important work WITHOUT a Senate confirmation hearing or vote?

June 11, 2021 Justice Dept. to probe secret subpoena for Schiff’s records on Trump’s watch


Jan. 25, 2023 Kevin McCarthy kicks Reps. Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell off intel panel

From Brian Cates: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1863237024204927401.html

H/T TradeBait2 for the Cate’s links.

Now Adam Schiff is going to be come a senator. I wonder if POTUS Trump will deny him a security clearance…. OR WORSE?

Added by Wolf…..

Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA) on Tuesday assailed President-elect Donald Trump’s suggestion that he and other former members of the defunct House Jan. 6 committee be imprisoned.

Trump advocated that those on the former panel who investigated the 2021 U.S. Capitol riot and his role in overturning the 2020 election should “go to jail.”

“I don’t think the incoming president should be threatening his political opponents with jail time,” Schiff told reporters on his first full day as a senator. “That’s not the kind of talk we should hear from the president in a democracy, nor do I think that a pardon is necessary for the members of the Jan. 6 committee.”

President Joe Biden is weighing preemptive pardons over fears Trump may seek retribution against Schiff and other high-profile members of the bipartisan panel, including former Chairman Bennie Thomson (D-MS), Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), and former Rep. Liz Cheney. Biden is also considering pardons for other political foes who could come under Trump’s microscope.

“We are proud of the work we did in that committee,” Schiff continued. “It was a fundamental oversight obligation to investigate the first attempt to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power in our history.”

Trump said in an NBC Meet the Press interview that aired over the weekend that he would not direct Justice Department officials to bring charges against the committee members but accused them of engaging in unspecified criminal activity.

“For what they did, honestly, they should go to jail,” Trump said.

In a separate portion, Trump said that “retribution will be through success.” He’s also vowed to pardon those charged with and convicted of crimes related to the Capitol riot.

Let’s see what happens to Pencil-Neck Shifty Schiff!


National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200

Implications of Worldwide Population Growth For U.S. Security and Overseas Interests

(THE KISSINGER REPORT)

December 10, 1974

CLASSIFIED BY Harry C. Blaney, III

SUBJECT TO GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652 AUTOMATICALLY DOWNGRADED AT TWO YEAR INTERVALS AND DECLASSIFIED ON DECEMBER 31, 1980.

This document can only be declassified by the White House.

Declassified/Released on 7/3/89 under provisions of E.O. 12356 by F. Graboske, National Security Council LINK

This entire article is excerpts taken directly from the 200 page report. Comments I make will be in [brackets – G.C.] All highlighting is mine. I am not going to put this monster in quotes.

TABLE OF CONTENTS …. Pages
Executive Summary 4-17
Part One — Analytical Section Chapter I World Demographic Trends 19-34
Chapter II Population and World Food Supplies 34-39
Chapter III Minerals and Fuel 40-49
Chapter IV Economic Development and Population Growth 50-55
Chapter V Implications of Population Pressures for National Security 56-65
Chapter Vl World Population Conference 66-72

Part Two — Policy Recommendations 73
Section I A U.S. Global Population Strategy 74-84
Section II Action to Create Conditions for Fertility Decline: Population and a Development Assistance Strategy 85-105

A. General Strategy and Resource for A.I.D. 85-91
Assistance B. Functional Assistance Programs to Create 92-102
Conditions for Fertility Decline C. Food for Peace Program and Population 103-105
Section III International Organizations and other Multilateral Population Programs 106-107

A. UN Organization and Specialized Agencies

B. Encouraging Private Organizations
Section IV Provision and Development of Family Planning Services, information and Technology 108-120
A. Research to Improve Fertility Control Technology
B. Development of Low-Cost Delivery Systems

C. Utilization of Mass Media and Satellite Communications System for Family Planning Section V Action to Develop Worldwide Political and Popular Commitment to Population Stability 121-123

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General Goals and Requirements for Dealing With Rapid Population Growth

23. The central question for world population policy in the year 1974, is whether mankind is to remain on a track toward an ultimate population of 12 to 15 billion — implying a five to seven-fold increase in almost all the underdeveloped world outside of China — or whether (despite the momentum of population growth) it can be switched over to the course of earliest feasible population stability — implying ultimate totals of 8 to 9 billions and not more than a three or four-fold increase in any major region.

24. What are the stakes? We do not know whether technological developments will make it possible to feed over 8 much less 12 billion people in the 21st century. We cannot be entirely certain that climatic changes in the coming decade will not create great difficulties in feeding a growing population, especially people in the LDCs who live under increasingly marginal and more vulnerable conditions. There exists at least the possibility that present developments point toward Malthusian conditions for many regions of the world. 25. But even if survival for these much larger numbers is possible, it will in all likelihood be bare survival…

28. World policy and programs in the population field should incorporate two major objectives:

(a) actions to accommodate continued population growth up to 6 billions by the mid-21st century without massive starvation or total frustration of developmental hopes; and (b) actions to keep the ultimate level as close as possible to 8 billions rather than permitting it to reach 10 billions, 13 billions, or more.

29. While specific goals in this area are difficult to state, our aim should be for the world to achieve a replacement level of fertility, (a two- child family on the average), by about the year 2000. This will require the present 2 percent growth rate to decline to 1.7 percent within a decade and to 1.1 percent by 2000 compared to the U.N medium projection, this goal would result in 500 million fewer people in 2000 and about 3 billion fewer in 2050. Attainment of this goal will require greatly intensified population programs. A basis for developing national population growth control targets to achieve this world target is contained in the World Population Plan of Action. 30. The World Population Plan of Action is not self-enforcing and will require vigorous efforts by interested countries, U.N. agencies and other international bodies to make it effective. U.S. leadership is essential….

[World Population 1950-2023 shows this goal was achieved -G.C.]

37. There is an alternative view which holds that a growing number of experts believe that the population situation is already more serious and less amenable to solution through voluntary measures than is generally accepted. It holds that, to prevent even more widespread food shortage and other demographic catastrophes than are generally anticipated, even stronger measures are required and some fundamental, very difficult moral issues need to be addressed. These include, for example, our own consumption patterns, mandatory programs, tight control of our food resources. In view of the seriousness of these issues, explicit consideration of them should begin in the Executive Branch, the Congress and the U.N. soon….

Thus, barring both large-scale birth control efforts (greater than implied by the medium variant) or economic or political upheavals, the next twenty-five years offer non-communist LDCs little respite from the burdens of rapidly increasing humanity. Of course, some LDCs will be able to accommodate this increase with less difficulty than others. Moreover, short of Draconian measures there is no possibility that any LDC can stabilize its population at less than double its present size. For many, stabilization will not tee short of three times their present size….

Rapid population growth and lagging food production in developing countries, together with the sharp deterioration in the global food situation in 1972 and 1973, have raised serious concerns about the ability of the world to feed itself adequately over the next quarter century and beyond.

There is great uncertainty whether the conditions for achieving food balance in the LDCs can in fact be realized. Climatic changes are poorly understood, but a persistent atmospheric cooling trend since 1940 has been established. [REMEMBER in 1972 Strong in his Stockholm speech warned urgently about global warming, the devastation of forests, the loss of biodiversity, polluted oceans, the population time bomb. …Strong was Secretary General of the first United Nations Conference on the Environment and Population in 1972, President of the Rockefeller Foundation, head of the World Bank, head of the United Nations Environmental Program, a member of the Foundation Board of the World Economic Forum and a committed socialist and globalist…. He was also one of Klaus Schwab’s mentors. – G.C.] One respectable body of scientific opinion believes that this portends a period of much wider annual frosts, and possibly a long-term lowering of rainfall in the monsoon areas of Asia and Africa. Nitrogen fertilizer will be in world short supply into the late 1970s, at least; because of higher energy prices, it may also be more costly in real terms than in the 1960s….

Even if massive famine can be averted, the most optimistic forecasts of food production potential in the more populous LDCs show little improvement in the presently inadequate levels and quality of nutrition. … The problem is clear. The solutions, or at least the directions we must travel to reach them are also generally agreed. What will be required is a genuine commitment to a set of policies that will lead the international community, both developed and developing countries, to the achievement of the objectives spelled out above….

… the focal point of the World Population Conference (WPC) at Bucharest, Romania, in August 1974, was the World Population Plan of Action (WPPA) ….

Despite the initial attack and continuing efforts to change the conceptual basis of the world Population Plan of Action, the Conference adopted by acclamation (only the Holy See staking a general reservation) a complete World Population Plan of Action….

[“Declaration on Procured Abortion” (1974), by the Vatican – Ratified on 28 June 1974 by Pope Paul VI. Was this declaration against ANY abortion why Pope Paul was removed on August 6, 1978? – G.C.]

The Plan of Action lays down several important principles, some for the first time in a U.N. document….

…for the first time, a U.N. document links the responsibility of child-bearers to the community [Para 13(f) continued]: The responsibility of couples and individuals in the exercise of this right takes into account the needs of their living and future children, and their responsibilities towards the community….

The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations? – George Bernard Shaw [G.C. insert]

The growing interdependence of countries makes the adoption of measures at the international level increasingly important for the solution of problems of development and population problems….

The U.N. low variant projection used in these paragraphs is close to the goals proposed by the United States and other ECAFE nations: – For developed countries – replacement levels of fertility by 1985; stationary populations as soon as practicable. – For developing countries – replacement levels in two or three decades. – For the world – a 1.7% population growth rate by 1985 with 2% average for the developing countries and 0.7% average for developed countries; replacement level of fertility for all countries by 2000. The dangerous situation evidenced by the current food situation and projections for the future make it essential to press for the realization of these goals….

In addition, the U.S. strategy should support in these LDC countries general activities (e.g. bio-medical research or fertility control methods) capable of achieving major breakthroughs in key problems which hinder reductions in population growth….

Two main advances are required for providing safe and effective fertility control techniques in the developing countries:

1. Expansion and further development of efficient low-cost systems to assure the full availability of existing family planning services, materials and information to the 85% of LDC populations not now effectively reached. In developing countries willing to create special delivery systems for family planning services this may be the most effective method. In others the most efficient and acceptable method is to combine family planning with health or nutrition in multi-purpose delivery systems.

  1. Improving the effectiveness of present means of fertility control, and developing new technologies which are simple, low cost, effective, safe, long- lasting and acceptable to potential users. This involves both basic developmental research and operations research to judge the utility of new or modified approaches under LDC conditions.
    • Two main advances are required for providing safe and effective fertility control techniques in the developing countries:

Expansion and further development of efficient low-cost systems to assure the full availability of existing family planning services, materials and information to the 85% of LDC populations not now effectively reached. In developing countries willing to create special delivery systems for family planning services this may be the most effective method. In others the most efficient and acceptable method is to combine family planning with health or nutrition in multi-purpose delivery systems.

Improving the effectiveness of present means of fertility control, and developing new technologies which are simple, low cost, effective, safe, long- lasting and acceptable to potential users. This involves both basic developmental research and operations research to judge the utility of new or modified approaches under LDC conditions. It is clear that the availability of contraceptive services and information is not a complete answer to the population problem….

[THIS PUTS A WHOLE OTHER TWIST ON THE LAWS AND ROE vs WADE]

The U.S. strengthened its credibility as an advocate of lower population growth rates by explaining that, while it did not have a single written action population policy, it did have legislation, Executive Branch policies and court decisions that amounted to a national policy and that our national fertility level was already below replacement and seemed likely to attain a stable population by 2000….

The U.S. further offered to collaborate with other interested donor countries and organizations (e.g., WHO, UNFPA, World Bank, UNICEF) to encourage further action by LDC governments and other institutions to provide low-cost, basic preventive health services, including maternal and child health and family planning services, reaching out into the remote rural areas…

We should also appeal to potential leaders among the younger generations in developing countries, focusing on the implications of continued rapid population growth for their countries in the next 10-20 years, when they may assume national leadership roles…. [Think London School of Economics — G.C.]

increased emphasis on mass media and other population education and motivation programs by the U.N., USIA, and USAID. We should give higher priorities in our information programs world-wide for this area and consider expansion of collaborative arrangements with multilateral institutions in population education programs….

An Alternative View The above basic strategy assumes that the current forms of assistance programs in both population and economic and social development areas will be able to solve the problem. There is however, another view, which is shared by a growing number of experts. It believes that the outlook is much harsher and far less tractable than commonly perceived. This holds that the severity of the population problem in this century which is already claiming the lives of more than 10 million people yearly, is such as to make likely continued widespread food shortage and other demographic catastrophes, and, in the words of C.P. Snow, we shall be watching people starve on television.

The conclusion of this view is that mandatory programs may be needed and that we should be considering these possibilities now. This school of thought believes the following types of questions need to be addressed:
— Should the U.S. make an all out commitment to major limitation of world population with all the financial and international as well as domestic political costs that would entail?
— Should the U.S. set even higher agricultural production goals which would enable it to provide additional major food resources to other countries? Should they be nationally or internationally controlled?
— On what basis should such food resources then be provided? Would food be considered an instrument of national power? Will we be forced to make choices as to whom we can reasonably assist, and if so, should population efforts be a criterion for such assistance?
— Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can’t/won’t control their population growth?
Should the U.S. seek to change its own food consumption patterns toward more efficient uses of protein? [Crickets Anyone? G.C.]
Are mandatory population control measures appropriate for the U.S. and/or for others?
Should the U.S. initiate a major research effort to address the growing problems of fresh water supply, ecological damage, and adverse climate?….

Should the choice be made that the recommendations and the options given below are not adequate to meet this problem, consideration should be given to a further study and additional action in this field as outlined above….

Conclusion:
The overall strategy above provides a general approach through which the difficulties and dangers of population growth and related problems can be approached in a balanced and comprehensive basis. No single effort will do the job. Only a concerted and major effort in a number of carefully selected directions can provide the hope of success in reducing population growth and its unwanted dangers to world economic will-being and political stability. There are no “quick-fixes” in this field.

Below are specific program recommendations which are designed to implement this strategy. Some will require few new resources; many call for major efforts and significant new resources. We cannot simply buy population growth moderation for nearly 4 billion people “on the cheap”….

Since inception of the program in 1965, AID has obligated nearly $625 million for population activities. …Since the Fund’s establishment, AID has been the largest single contributor. Moreover, with assistance from AID a number of private family planning organizations (e.g., Pathfinder Fund, International Planned Parenthood Foundation, Population Council) have significantly expanded their worldwide population programs. Such organizations are still the main supporters of family planning action in many developing countries…

[Discussion of funding -G.C.]

There are three major factors to consider in judging the seriousness of the problem: — The first is the country’s contribution to the world’s population problem, which is determined by the size of its population, its population growth rate, and its progress in the “demographic transition” from high birth and high death rates to low ones.
— The second is the extent to which population growth impinges on the country’s economic development and its financial capacity to cope with its population problem.
— The third factor is the extent to which an imbalance between growing numbers of people and a country’s capability to handle the problem could lead to serious instability, international tensions, or conflicts. Although many countries may experience adverse consequences from such imbalances, the trouble making regional or international conditions might not be as serious in some places as they are in others.

[Discussion of direct intervention and the use of NGOs – G.C.]

…U.S. assistance is limited either by the nature of political or diplomatic relations with those countries (e.g. India, Egypt), or by the lack of strong government interest in population reduction programs (e.g. Nigeria, Ethiopia, Mexico, Brazil)…

In addition, the U.S. strategy should support general activities capable of achieving major breakthroughs in key problems which hinder attainment of fertility control objectives. For example, the development of more effective, simpler contraceptive methods through big-medical research will benefit all countries which face the problem of rapid population growth… Some major actions in the area of creating conditions for fertility decline, as described in Section JIB, can be funded from AID resources available for the sectors in question (e.g., education, agriculture). Other actions come under the purview of population (“Title X”) funds. In this latter category, increases in projected budget requests to the Congress on the order of $35-50 million annually through FY 1980 — above the $137.5 million requested by FY 1975 — appear appropriate at this time. Such increases must be accompanied by expanding contributions to the worldwide population effort from other donors and organizations …

Our objective should be to assure that developing countries make family planning information, educational and means available to all their peoples by 1980. Our efforts should include:

— Increased A.I.D. bilateral and centrally-funded programs, consistent with the geographic priorities cited above.

— Expanded contributions to multilateral and private organizations that can work effectively in the population area.

— Further research on the relative impact of various socio-economic factors on desired family size, and experimental efforts to test the feasibility of larger-scale efforts to affect some of these factors.

Additional big-medical research to improve the existing means of fertility control and to develop new ones which are safe, effective, inexpensive, and attractive to both men and women.

— Innovative approaches to providing family planning services, such as the utilization of commercial channels for distribution of contraceptives, and the development of low-cost systems for delivering effective health and family planning services to the 85% of LDC populations not now reached by such services.

— Expanded efforts to increase the awareness of LDC leaders and publics regarding the consequences of rapid population growth and to stimulate further LDC commitment to actions to reduce fertility….

… the need to assure that new projects involve sensible, effective actions that are likely to reduce fertility….

It is clear that the availability of contraceptive services and information, important as that is, is not the only element required to address the population problems of the LDCs. Substantial evidence shows that many families in LDCs (especially the poor) consciously prefer to have numerous children for a variety of economic and social reasons. For example, small children can make economic contributions on family farms, children can be important sources of support for old parents where no alternative form of social security exists, and children may be a source of status for women who have few alternatives in male-dominated societies….

…how much does it cost to educate a girl to the point where her fertility will be reduced (which occurs at about the fourth-grade level)? What specific programs in female education are most cost-effective (e.g., primary school, non-formal literacy training, or vocational or pre-vocational training)?

… laws that raise the minimum marriage age, where politically feasible and at least partially enforceable, can over time have a modest effect on fertility at negligible cost. Similarly, there have been some controversial, but remarkably successful, experiments in India in which financial incentives, along with other motivational devices, were used to get large numbers of men to accept vasectomies….

(4). AID should help develop capacity in a few existing U.S. and LDC institutions to serve as major centers for research and policy development in the areas of fertility-affecting social or economic measures, direct incentives, household behavior research, and evaluation techniques for motivational approaches….

High infant and child mortality rates, evident in many developing countries, lead parents to be concerned about the number of their children who are likely to survive. Parents may over compensate for possible child losses by having additional children. Research to date clearly indicates not only that high fertility and high birth rates are closely correlated but that in most circumstances low net population growth rates can only be achieved when child mortality is low as well….

Considerable reduction in infant and child mortality is possible through improvement in nutrition, inoculations against diseases, and other public health measures if means can be devised for extending such services to neglected LDC populations on a low-cost basis. It often makes sense to combine such activities with family planning services in integrated delivery systems in order to maximize the use of scarce LDC financial and health manpower resources

[World Health Organization began working on an anti-fertility vaccine, led by Dr. G.P. Talwar in New Delhi, India, in the 1970s – G.C.]

….local medical communities tend to favor relatively expensive quality health care, even at the cost of leaving large numbers of people (in the LDC’s generally over two-thirds of the people) virtually uncovered by modern health services. (So involve World Bank low cost loans)…

As offered at Bucharest, the U.S. should join donor countries, WHO, UNFPA, UNICEF and the World Bank to create a consortium to offer assistance to the more needy developing countries to establish their own low-cost preventive and curative public health systems reaching into all areas of their countries and capable of national support within a reasonable period. Such systems would include family planning services as an ordinary part of their overall services.

– The WHO should be asked to take the leadership in such an arrangement and is ready to do so. Apparently at least half of the potential donor countries and the EEC’s technical assistance program are favourably inclined. So is the UNFPA and UNICEF. The U.S., through its representation on the World Bank Board, should encourage a broader World Bank initiative in this field, particularly to assist in the development of inexpensive, basic health service infrastructures in countries wishing to undertake the development of such systems….

3. Expanding Wage Employment Opportunities, Especially for Women

Employment is the key to access to income, which opens the way to improved health, education, nutrition, and reduced family size. Reliable job opportunities enable parents to limit their family size and invest in the welfare of the children they have. The status and utilization of women in LDC societies is particularly important in reducing family size. For women, employment outside the home offers an alternative to early marriage and childbearing, and an incentive to have fewer children after marriage. The woman who must stay home to take care of her children must forego the income she could earn outside the home. Research indicates that female wage employment outside the home is related to fertility reduction….

3. AID should enlarge pre-vocational and vocational training to involve women more directly in learning skills which can enhance their income and status in the community (e.g. paramedical skills related to provision of family planning services).

4. AID should encourage the development and placement of LDC women as decision-makers in development programs, particularly those programs designed to increase the role of women as producers of goods and services, and otherwise to improve women’s welfare (e.g. national credit and finance programs, and national health and family planning programs)….

4 . Developing Alternatives to the Social Security Role Provided By Children to Aging Parents

In most LDCs the almost total absence of government or other institutional forms of social security for old people forces dependence on children for old age survival. The need for such support appears to be one of the important motivations for having numerous children… (discussion of possible alternatives])

AID should encourage governments to consider such measures, and should provide financial and technical assistance where appropriate. [Is this why the USA is paying Ukrainian old age pensions??? -G.C.]

5. Pursuing Development Strategies that Skew Income Growth Toward the Poor, Especially Rural Development Focusing on Rural Poverty

AID should continue its efforts to focus not just on agriculture and rural development but specifically on small farmers…

6. Concentration on Education and Indoctrination of The Rising Generation of Children Regarding the Desirability of Smaller Family Size

Present efforts at reducing birth rates in LDCs, including AID and UNFPA assistance, are directed largely at adults now in their reproductive years. Only nominal attention is given to population education or sex education in schools and in most countries none is given in the very early grades which are the only attainment of 2/3-3/4 of the children….The great necessity is to convince the masses of the population that it is to their individual and national interest to have, on the average, only three and then only two children. …Without diminishing in any way the effort to reach these adults, the obvious increased focus of attention should be to change the attitudes of the next generation, those who are now in elementary school or younger. If this could be done, it would indeed be possible to attain a level of fertility approaching replacement in 20 years and actually reaching it in 30.

Because a large percentage of children from high-fertility, low income groups do not attend school, it will be necessary to develop means to reach them for this and other educational purposes through informal educational programs…..

Recommendation

1. That U.S. agencies stress the importance of education of the next generation of parents, starting in elementary schools, toward a two-child family ideal.

2. That AID stimulate specific efforts to develop means of educating children of elementary school age to the ideal of the two-child family and that UNESCO be asked to take the lead through formal and informal education.

General Recommendation for UN Agencies

As to each of the above six categories State and AID should make specific efforts to have the relevant UN agency, WHO, ILO, FAO, UNESCO, UNICEF, and the UNFPA take its proper role of leadership in the UN family with increased program effort, citing the world Population Plan of Action. II. C. Food for Peace Program and Population Discussion: One of the most fundamental aspects of the impact of population growth on the political and economic well-being of the globe is its relationship to food. Here the problem of the interrelationship of population, national resources, environment, productivity and political and economic stability come together when shortages of this basic human need occur. USDA projections indicate that the quantity of grain imports needed by the LDCs in the 1980s will grow significantly, both in overall and per capita terms. In addition, these countries will face year-to-year fluctuations weather and other factors. This is not to say that the LDCs need face starvation in the next two decades, for the same projections indicate an even greater increase in production of grains in the developed nations. It should be pointed out, however, that these projections assume that such major problems as the vast increase in the need for fresh water, the ecological effects of the vast increase in the application of fertilizer, pesticides, and irrigation, and the apparent adverse trend in the global climate, are solved. At present, there are no solutions to these problems in sight. The major challenge will be to increase food production in the LDCs themselves and to liberalize the system in which grain is transferred commercially from producer to consumer countries…..

In the longer run, LDCs must both decrease population growth and increase agricultural production significantly. At some point the “excess capacity” of the food exporting countries will run out. Some countries have already moved from a net food exporter to a net importer of food….

In the longer run, LDCs must both decrease population growth and increase agricultural production significantly. At some point the “excess capacity” of the food exporting countries will run out. Some countries have already moved from a net food exporter to a net importer of food….

In particular, we believe that population growth may have very serious negative consequences on food production in the LDCs including over-expectations of the capacity of the land to produce, downgrading the ecological economics of marginal areas, and over-harvesting the seas. All of these conditions may affect the viability of the world’s economy and thereby its prospects for peace and security.

Recommendations: Since NSC/CIEP studies are already underway we refer the reader to them. However the following, we believe, are minimum requirements for any strategy which wishes to avoid instability and conflict brought on by population growth and food scarcity:

(1) High priority for U.S. bilateral and multilateral LDC Agricultural Assistance; including efforts by the LDCs to improve food production and distribution with necessary institutional adjustments and economic policies to stimulate efficient production. This must include a significant increase in financial and technical aid to promote more efficient production and distribution in the LDCs.
(2) Development of national food stocks *( including those needed for emergency relief – ) within an internationally agreed framework sufficient to provide an adequate level of world food security;
(3) Expansion of production of the input elements of food production (i.e., fertilizer, availability of water and high yield seed stocks) and increased incentives for expanded agricultural productivity. In this context a reduction n the real cost of energy (especially fuel) either through expansion in availability through new sources or decline in the relative price of oil or both would be of great importance;
(4) Significant expansion of U.S. and other producer country food crops within the context of a liberalized and efficient world trade system that will assure food availability to the LDCs in case of severe shortage. New international trade arrangements for agricultural products, open enough to permit maximum production by efficient producers and flexible enough to dampen wide price fluctuations in years when weather conditions result in either significant shortfalls or surpluses. We believe this objective can be achieved by trade liberalization and an internationally coordinated food reserve program without resorting to price-oriented agreements, which have undesirable effects on both production and distribution;
(5) The maintenance of an adequate food aid program with a clearer focus on its use as a means to make up real food deficits, pending the development of their own food resources, in countries unable to feed themselves rather than as primarily an economic development or foreign policy instrument; and (6) A strengthened research effort, including long term, to develop new seed and

  • Department of Agriculture favours U.S. commercial interests holding any national stocks in an international network of stockpiles farming technologies, primarily to increase yields but also to permit more extensive cultivation techniques, particularly in LDCs
    [Clinton in his infinite wisdom signed the “Freedom to Fail Farm Bill” of 1996 that wiped out the US Strategic Grain Storage System and by 2008 the USDA reported “The cupboard is bare” just in time for the 2008 food crisis. – G.C.]
  • III. International Organizations and other Multilateral Population Programs
  • A. UN Organization and Specialized Agencies Discussion In the mid-sixties the UN member countries slowly began to agree on a greater involvement of the United Nations in population matters. In 1967 the Secretary-General created a Trust Fund to finance work in the population field. In 1969 the Fund was renamed the United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA) and placed under the overall supervision of the United Nations Development Program. During this period, also, the mandates of the Specialized Agencies were modified to permit greater involvement by these agencies in population activities.
  • UNFPA’s role was clarified by an ECOSOC resolution in 1973:
  • (a) to build up the knowledge and capacity to respond to the needs in the population and family planning fields;
  • (b) to promote awareness in both developed and developing countries of the social, economic, and environmental implications of population problems;
  • (c) to extend assistance to developing countries; and
  • (d) to promote population programs and to coordinate projects supported by the UNFPA. Most of the projects financed by UNFPA are implemented with the assistance of organizations of the United Nations system, including the regional Economic Commission, United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), International Labour Organization (ILO), Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), the World Health Organization (WHO). Collaborative arrangements have been made with the International Development Association (IDA), an affiliate of the World Bank, and with the World Food Programme. Increasingly the UNFPA is moving toward comprehensive country programs negotiated directly with governments. This permits the governments to select the implementing (executing) agency which may be a member of the UN system or a non-government organization or company. With the development of the country program approach it is planned to level off UNFPA funding to the specialized agencies….
  • B. Encouraging Private Organizations Discussion The cooperation of private organizations and groups on a national, regional and world-wide level is essential to the success of a comprehensive population strategy. These groups provide important intellectual contributions and policy support, as well as the delivery of family planning and health services and information. In some countries, the private and voluntary organizations are the only means of providing family planning services and materials.
  • Recommendations: AID should continue to provide support to those private U.S. and international organizations whose work contributes to reducing rapid population growth, and to develop with them, where appropriate, geographic and functional divisions of labor in population assistance.
  • Provision and Development of Family Planning Services, Information and Technology In addition to creating the climate for fertility decline, as described in a previous section, it is essential to provide safe and effective techniques for controlling fertility. There are two main elements in this task:
  • (a) improving the effectiveness of the existing means of fertility control and developing new ones; and
  • (b) developing low-cost systems for the delivery of family planning technologies, information and related services to the 85% of LDC populations not now reached.
  • Legislation and policies affecting what the U.S. Government does relative to abortion in the above areas is discussed at the end of this section.
  • A. Research to Improve Fertility Control Technology
  • Discussion The effort to reduce population growth requires a variety of birth control methods which are safe, effective, inexpensive and attractive to both men and women. The developing countries in particular need methods which do not require physicians and which are suitable for use in primitive, remote rural areas or urban slums by people with relatively low motivation. Experiences in family planning have clearly demonstrated the crucial impact of improved technology on fertility control. None of the currently available methods of fertility control is completely effective and free of adverse reactions and objectionable characteristics. The ideal of a contraceptive, perfect in all these respects, may never be realized. A great deal of effort and money will be necessary to improve fertility control methods.
  • The research to achieve this aim can be divided into two categories:
  • Short-term approaches:
  • These include applied and developmental work which is required to perfect further and evaluate the safety and role of methods demonstrated to be effective in family planning programs in the developing countries. Other work is directed toward new methods based on well established knowledge about the physiology of reproduction. Although short term pay-offs are possible, successful development of some methods may take 5 years and up to $15 million for a single method.
  • Long-term approaches:
  • The limited state of- fundamental knowledge of many reproductive processes requires that a strong research effort of a more basic nature be maintained to elucidate these processes and provide leads for contraceptive development research. For example, new knowledge of male reproductive processes is needed before research to develop a male “pill” can come to fruition. Costs and duration of the required research are high and difficult to quantify. With expenditures of about $30 million annually, a broad program of basic and applied big-medical research on human reproduction and contraceptive development is carried out by the Center for Population Research of the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development. The Agency for International Development annually funds about $5 million of principally applied research on new means of fertility control suitable for use in developing countries. Smaller sums are spent by other agencies of the U.S. Government. Coordination of the federal research effort is facilitated by the activities of the Interagency Committee on Population Research. This committee prepares an annual listing and analyses of all government supported population research programs. The listing is published in the Inventory of Federal Population Research. A variety of studies have been undertaken by non-governmental experts including the U.S. Commission on Population Growth and the American Future. Most of these studies indicate that the United States effort in population research is insufficient. Opinions differ on how much more can be spent wisely and effectively but an additional $25-50 million annually for bio-medical research constitutes a conservative estimate….
  • Short-term approaches:
  • These approaches include improvement and field testing of existing technology and development of new technology. It is expected that some of these approaches would be ready for use within five years. Specific short term approaches worthy of increased effort are as follows:
  • a. Oral contraceptives have become popular and widely used; yet the optimal steroid hormone combinations and doses for LDC populations need further definition. Field studies in several settings are required. Approx. Increased Cost: $3 million annually.
  • b. Intra-uterine devices of differing size, shape, and bioactivity should be developed and tested to determine the optimum levels of effectiveness, safety, and acceptability. Approx. Increased Cost: $3 million annually.
  • c. Improved methods for ovulation prediction will be important to those couples who wish to practice rhythm with more assurance of effectiveness than they now have. Approx. Increased Cost: $3 million annually.
  • d. Sterilization of men and women has received wide-spread acceptance in several areas when a simple, quick, and safe procedure is readily available. Female sterilization has been improved by technical advances with laparoscopes, culdoscopes, and greatly simplifies abdominal surgical techniques. Further improvements by the use of tubal clips, trans-cervical approaches, and simpler techniques can be developed. For men several current techniques hold promise but require more refinement and evaluation. Approx. Increased Cost $6 million annually.
  • e. Injectable contraceptives for women which are effective for three months or more and are administered by pare-professionals undoubtedly will be a significant improvement. Currently available methods of this type are limited by their side effects and potential hazards. There are reasons to believe that these problems can be overcome with additional research. Approx. Increased Cost: $5 million annually.
  • f. Leuteolytic and anto-progesterone approaches to fertility control including use of prostaglandins are theoretically attractive but considerable work remains to be done. Approx. Increased Cost: $7 million annually.
  • g. Non-Clinical Methods. Additional research on non-clinical methods including foams, creams, and condoms is needed. These methods can be used without medical supervision. Approx. Increased Cost; $5 million annually.
  • h. Field studies. Clinical trials of new methods in use settings are essential to test their worth in developing countries and to select the best of several possible methods in a given setting. Approx. Increased Cost: $8 million annually.
  • Long-term approaches:
  • Increased research toward better understanding of human reproductive physiology will lead to better methods of fertility control for use in five to fifteen years. A great deal has yet to be learned about basic aspects of male and female fertility and how regulation can be effected. For example, an -effective and safe male contraceptive is needed, in particular an injection which will be effective for specified periods of time. Fundamental research must be done but there are reasons to believe that the development of an injectable male contraceptive is feasible. Another method which should be developed is an injection which will assure a woman of regular periods. The drug would be given by pare-professionals once a month or as needed to regularize the menstrual cycle. Recent scientific advances indicate that this method can be developed. Approx. Increased Cost: $20 million annually.

  • B. Development of Low-cost Delivery Systems Discussion
    Exclusive of China, only 10-15% of LDC populations are currently effectively reached by family planning activities. If efforts to reduce rapid population growth are to be successful it is essential that the neglected 85- 90% of LDC populations have access to convenient, reliable family planning services. Moreover, these people — largely in rural but also in urban areas — not only tend to have the highest fertility, they simultaneously suffer the poorest health, the worst nutritional levels, and the highest infant mortality rates.
  • Family planning services in LDCs are currently provided by the following means:
  • Government-run clinics or centers which offer family planning services alone;
  • Government-run clinics or centers which offer family planning as part of a broader based health service;
  • Government-run programs that emphasize door to door contact by family planning workers who deliver contraceptives to those desiring them and/or make referrals to clinics;
  • Clinics or centres run by private organizations (e.g., family planning associations);
  • Commercial channels which in many countries sell condoms, oral contraceptives, and sometimes spermicidal foam over the counter;
  • Private physicians. Two of these means in particular hold promise for allowing significant expansion of services to the neglected poor:
  • Integrated Delivery Systems. This approach involves the provision of family planning in conjunction with health and/or nutrition services, primarily through government-run programs. There are simple logistical reasons which argue for providing these services on an integrated basis. Very few of the LDCs have the resources, both in financial and manpower terms, to enable them to deploy individual types of services to the neglected 85% of their populations. By combining a variety of services in one delivery mechanism they can attain maximum impact with the scarce resources available. In addition, the provision of family planning in the context of broader health services can help make family planning more acceptable to LDC leaders and individuals who, for a variety of reasons (some ideological, some simply humanitarian) object to family planning. Family planning in the health context shows a concern for the well-being of the family as a whole and not just for a couple’s reproductive function.
  • Finally, providing integrated family planning and health services on a broad basis would help the U.S. contend with the ideological charge that the U.S. is more interested in curbing the numbers of LDC people than it is in their future and well-being. While it can be argued, and argued effectively, that limitation of numbers may well be one of the most critical factors in enhancing development potential and improving the chances for well-being, we should recognize that those who argue along ideological lines have made a great deal of the fact that the U.S. contribution to development programs and health programs has steadily shrunk, whereas funding for population programs has steadily increased.
  • While many explanations may be brought forward to explain these trends, the fact is that they have been an ideological liability to the U.S. in its crucial developing relationships with the LDCs. A.I.D. currently spends about $35 million annually in bilateral programs on the provision of family planning services through integrated delivery systems. Any action to expand such systems must aim at the deployment of truly low- cost services. Health-related services which involve costly physical structures, high skill requirements, and expensive supply methods will not produce the desired deployment in any reasonable time. The basic test of low- cost methods will be whether the LDC governments concerned can assume responsibility for the financial, administrative, manpower and other elements of these service extensions. Utilizing existing indigenous structures and personnel (including traditional medical practitioners who in some countries have shown a strong interest in family planning) and service methods that involve simply-trained personnel, can help keep costs within LDC resource capabilities.
  • 2. Commercial Channels. In an increasing number of LDCs, contraceptives
  • Commercial Channels. In an increasing number of LDCs, contraceptives (such as condoms, foam and the Pill) are being made available without prescription requirements through commercial channels such as drugstores.* The commercial approach offers a practical, low-cost means of providing family planning services, since it utilizes an existing distribution system and does not involve financing the further expansion of public clinical delivery facilities. Both A.I.D. and private organizations like the IPPF are currently testing commercial distribution schemes in various LDCs to obtain further information on the feasibility, costs, and degree of family planning acceptance achieved through this approach. A.I.D. is currently spending about $2 million annually in this area.
  • In order to stimulate LDC provision of adequate family planning services, whether alone or in conjunction with health services, A.I.D. has subsidized contraceptive purchases for a number of years…. These costs must ultimately be borne by LDC governments and/or individual consumers. Therefore, A.I.D. will increasingly focus on developing contraceptive production and procurement capacities by the LDCs themselves. A.I.D. must, however, be prepared to continue supplying large quantities of contraceptives over the next several years to avoid a detrimental hiatus in program supply lines while efforts are made to expand LDC production and procurement actions. A.I.D. should also encourage other donors and multilateral organizations to assume a greater share of the effort, in regard both to the short-term actions to subsidize contraceptive supplies and the longer-term actions to develop LDC capacities for commodity production and procurement.
  • Recommendations:
  • A.I.D. should aim its population assistance program to help achieve adequate coverage of couples having the highest fertility who do not now have access to family planning services.
  • The service delivery approaches which seem to hold greatest promise of reaching these people should be vigorously pursued. For example:
    a. The U.S. should indicate its willingness to join with other donors and organizations to encourage further action by LDC governments and other institutions to provide low-cost family planning and health services to groups in their populations who are not now reached by such services. In accordance with Title X of the AID Legislation and current policy, A.I.D. should be prepared to provide substantial assistance in this area in response to sound requests.
    b. The services provided must take account of the capacities of the LDC governments or institutions to absorb full responsibility, over reasonable time-frames, for financing and managing the level of services involved.
    c. A.I.D. and other donor assistance efforts should utilize to the extent possible indigenous structures and personnel in delivering services, and should aim at the rapid development of local (community) action and sustaining capabilities.
    d. A.I.D. should continue to support experimentation with commercial distribution of contraceptives and application of useful findings in order to further explore the feasibility and replicability of this approach. Efforts in this area by other donors and organizations should be encouraged. Approx. U.S. Cost: $5-10 million annually.
  • In conjunction with other donors and organizations, A.I.D. should actively encourage the development of LDC capabilities for production and procurement of needed family planning contraceptives.
  • Special Footnote: While the agencies participating in this study have no specific recommendations to propose on abortion the following issues are believed important and should be considered in the context of a global population strategy.
  • Abortion
  • Worldwide Abortion Practices Certain facts about abortion need to be appreciated:
  • No country has reduced its population growth without resorting to abortion.
  • Thirty million pregnancies are estimated to be terminated annually by abortion throughout the world. The figure is a guess. More precise data indicate about 7 percent of the world’s population live in countries where abortion is prohibited without exception and 12 percent in countries where abortion is permitted only to save the life of the pregnant woman. About 15 percent live under statutes authorizing abortion on broader medical grounds, that is, to avert a threat to the woman’s health, rather than to her life, and sometimes on eugenic and/or juridical grounds (rape, etc.) as well. Countries where social factors may be taken into consideration to justify termination of pregnancy account for 22 percent of the world’s population and those allowing for elective abortion for at least some categories of women, for 36 percent. No information is available for the remaining 8 percent; it would appear, however, that most of these people live in areas with restrictive abortion laws.
  • The abortion statutes of many countries are not strictly enforced and some abortions on medical grounds are probably tolerated in most places. It is well known that in some countries with very restrictive laws, abortions can be obtained from physicians openly and without interference from the authorities. Conversely, legal authorization of elective abortion does not guarantee that abortion on request is actually available to all women who may want their pregnancies terminated. Lack of medical personnel and facilities or conservative attitudes among physicians and hospital administrators may effectively curtail access to abortion, especially for economically or socially deprived women.
  • U.S. Legislation and Policies Relative to Abortion
  • Although the Supreme Court of the United States invalidated the abortion laws of most states in January 1973, the subject still remains politically sensitive. U.S. Government actions relative to abortion are restricted as indicated by the following Federal legislation and the resultant policy decisions of the concerned departments and agencies.
  • a. A.I.D. Program The predominant part of A.I.D.’s population assistance program has concentrated on contraceptive or foresight methods. A.I.D. recognized, however, that under developing country conditions foresight methods not only are frequently unavailable but often fail because of ignorance, lack of preparation, misuse and non-use. Because of these latter conditions, increasing numbers of women in the developing world have been resorting to abortion, usually under unsafe and often lethal conditions. Indeed, abortion, legal and illegal, now has become the most widespread fertility control method in use in the world today. Since, in the developing world, the increasingly widespread practice of abortion is conducted often under unsafe conditions, A.I.D. sought through research to reduce the health risks and other complexities which arise from the illegal and unsafe forms of abortion. One result has been the development of the Menstrual Regulation Kit, a simple, inexpensive, safe and effective means of fertility control which is easy to use under LDC conditions.
  • Section 114 of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (P.L. 93-189), as amended in 1974, adds for the first time restrictions on the use of A.I.D. funds relative to abortion. The provision states that “None of the funds made available to carry out this part (Part I of the Act) shall be used to pay for the performance of abortions as a method of family planning or to motivate or coerce any person to practice abortions.” In order to comply with Section 114, A.I.D. has determined that foreign assistance funds will not be used to:
  • (i) procure or distribute equipment provided for the purpose of inducing abortions as a method of family planning.
  • (ii) directly support abortion activities in LDCs. However, A.I.D. may provide population program support to LDCs and institutions as long as A.I.D. funds are wholly attributable to the permissible aspects of such programs. A.I.D. funds may continue to be used for research relative to abortion since the Congress specifically chose not to include research among the prohibited activities. A major effect of the amendment and policy determination is that A.I.D. will not be involved in further development or promotion of the Menstrual Regulation Kit. However, other donors or organizations may become interested in promoting with their own funds dissemination of this promising fertility control method.
  • b. DHEW Programs Section 1008 of the Family Planning Services and Population Research Act of 1970 (P.L. 91-572) states that “None of the funds appropriated under this title shall be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning.” DHEW has adhered strictly to the intent of Congress and does not support abortion research. Studies of the causes and consequences of abortion are permitted, however. The Public Health Service Act Extension of 1973 (P.L. 9345) contains the Church Amendment which establishes the right of health providers (both individuals and institutions) to refuse to perform an abortion if it conflicts with moral or religious principles.
  • c. Proposed Legislation on Abortion Research There are numerous proposed Congressional amendments and bills which are more restrictive on abortion research than any of the pieces of legislation cited above.
  • It would be unwise to restrict abortion research for the following reasons:
  • The persistent and ubiquitous nature of abortion.
  • Widespread lack of safe abortion technique.
  • Restriction of research on abortifacient drugs and devices would:
    a. Possibly eliminate further development of the IUD.
    b. Prevent development of drugs which might have other beneficial uses. An example is methotrexate (R) which is now used to cure a hitherto fatal tumour of the uterus — choriocarcinoma. This drug was first used as an abortifacient.
  • C. Utilization of Mass Media and Satellite Communications Systems for Family Planning
  • Utilization of Mass Media for Dissemination of Family Planning Services and Information. The potential of education and its various media is primarily a function of
    (a) target populations where socio-economic conditions would permit reasonable people to change their behavior with the receipt of information about family planning and
    (b) the adequate development of the substantive motivating context of the message. While dramatic limitations in the availability of any family planning related message are most severe in rural areas of developing countries, even more serious gaps exist in the understanding of the implicit incentives in the system for large families and the potential of the informational message to alter those conditions.
  • Nevertheless, progress in the technology for mass media communications has led to the suggestion that the priority need might lie in the utilization of this technology, particularly with large and illiterate rural populations. While there are on-going efforts they have not yet reached their full potential. Nor have the principal U.S. agencies concerned yet integrated or given sufficient priority to family planning information and population programs generally. Yet A.I.D.’s work suggests that radio, posters, printed material, and various types of personal contacts by health/family planning workers tend to be more cost-effective than television except in those areas (generally urban) where a TV system is already in place which reaches more than just the middle and upper classes.
  • There is great scope for use of mass media, particularly in the initial stages of making people aware of the benefits of family planning and of services available; in this way mass media can effectively complement necessary interpersonal communications. In almost every country of the world there are channels of communication (media) available, such, as print media, radio, posters, and personal contacts, which already reach the vast majority of the population. For example, studies in India – with only 30% literacy, show that most of the population is aware of the government’s family planning program. If response is low it is not because of lack of media to transmit information. A.I.D. believes that the best bet in media strategy is to encourage intensive use of media already available, or available at relatively low cost. For example, radio is a medium which in some countries already reaches a sizeable percentage of the rural population; a recent A.I.D. financed study by Stanford indicates that radio is as effective as television, costs one-fifth as much, and offers more opportunities for programming for local needs and for local feedback.
  • Recommendations USAID and USIA should encourage other population donors and organizations to develop comprehensive information and educational programs dealing with population and family planning consistent with the geographic and functional population emphasis discussed in other sections. Such programs should make use of the results of AID’s extensive experience in this field and should include consideration of social, cultural and economic factors in population control as well as strictly technical and educational ones.
  • Use of U.S. broadcast satellites for dissemination of family planning and health information to key LDC countries
  • Discussion One key factor in the effective use of existing contraceptive techniques has been the problem of education. In particular, this problem is most severe in rural areas of the developing countries. There is need to develop a cost-effective communications system designed for rural areas which, together with local direct governmental efforts, can provide comprehensive health information and in particular, family planning guidance. One new supporting technology which has been under development is the broadcast satellite. NASA and Fairchild have now developed an ATS (Applied Technology Satellite), now in orbit, which has the capability of beaming educational television programs to isolated areas via small inexpensive community receivers. NASA’s sixth Applications Technology Satellite was launched into geosynchronous orbit over the Galapagos Islands on May 30, 1974. It will be utilized for a year in that position to deliver health and educational services to millions of Americans in remote regions of the Rocky Mountain States, Alaska and Appalachia. During this period it will be made available for a short time to Brazil in order to demonstrate how such a broadcast satellite may be used to provide signals to 500 schools in their existing educational television network 1400 miles northeast of Rio de Janeiro in Rio Grande do Norte.
  • In mid-1975, ATS-6 will be moved to a point over the Indian Ocean to begin beaming educational television to India. India is now developing its broadcast program materials. Signals picked up from one of two Indian ground transmitters will be rebroadcast to individual stations in 2500 villages and to ground relay installations serving networks comprising 3000 more. This operation over India will last one year, after which time India hopes to have its own broadcast satellite in preparation. Eventually it will be possible to broadcast directly to individual TV sets in remote rural areas. Such a “direct broadcast satellite,” which is still under development, could one day go directly into individual TV receivers.
  • At present, broadcast satellite signals go to ground receiving stations and are relayed to individual television sets on a local or regional basis. The latter can be used in towns, villages and schools. The hope is that these new technologies will provide a substantial input in family planning programs, where the primary constraint lies in informational services. The fact, however, is that information and education does not appear to be the primary constraint in the development of effective family planning programs. AID itself has learned from costly intensive inputs that a supply oriented approach to family planning is not and cannot be fully effective until the demand side – incentives and motivations are both understood and accounted for.
  • Leaving this vast problem aside, AID has much relevant experience in the numerous problems encountered in the use of modern communications media for mass rural education. First, there is widespread LDC sensitivity to satellite broadcast, expressed most vigorously in the Outer Space Committee of the UN. Many countries don’t want broadcasts of neighbouring countries over their own territory and fear unwanted propaganda and subversion by hostile broadcasters. NASA experience suggests that the U.S. must tread very softly when discussing assistance in program content. International restrictions may be placed on the types of proposed broadcasts and it remains technically difficult to restrict broadcast area coverage to national boundaries. To the extent programs are developed jointly and are appreciated and wanted by receiving countries, some relaxation in their position might occur.
  • Agreement is nearly universal among practitioners of educational technology that the technology is years ahead of software or content development. Thus cost per person reached tend to be very high. In addition, given the current technology, audiences are limited to those who are willing to walk to the village TV set and listen to public service messages and studies show declining audiences over time with large audiences primarily for popular entertainment. In addition, keeping village receivers in repair is a difficult problem. The high cost of program development remains a serious constraint, particularly since there is so little experience in validifying program content for wide general audiences. With these factors it is clear that one needs to proceed slowly in utilization of this technology for the LDCs in the population field.
  • Recommendations:
  • The work of existing networks on population, education, ITV, and broadcast satellites should be brought together to better consolidate relative priorities for research, experimentation and programming in family planning. Wider distribution of the broad AID experience in these areas would probably be justified. This is particularly true since specific studies have already been done on the experimental ATS-6 programs in the U.S., Brazil, and India and each clearly documents the very experimental character and high costs of the effort. Thus at this point it is clearly inconsistent with U.S. or LDC population goals to allocate large additional sums for a technology which is experimental.
  • Limited donor and recipient family planning funds available for education/motivation must be allocated on a cost-effectiveness basis. Satellite TV may have opportunities for cost-effectiveness primarily where the decision has already been taken ── on other than family planning grounds ── to undertake very large-scale rural TV systems. Where applicable in such countries satellite technology should be used when cost-effective. Research should give special attention to costs and efficiency relative to alternative media. 3. Where the need for education is established and an effective format has been developed, we recommend more effective exploitation of existing and conventional media: radio, printed material, posters, etc., as discussed under part I above.
  • V. Action to Develop World-Wide Political and Popular Commitment to Population Stability
  • Discussion: A far larger, high-level effort is needed to develop a greater commitment of leaders of both developed and developing countries to undertake efforts, commensurate with the need, to bring population growth under control. In the United States, we do not yet have a domestic population policy despite widespread recognition that we should — supported by the recommendations of the remarkable Report of the Commission on Population Growth and the American Future. Although world population growth is widely recognized within the Government as a current danger of the highest magnitude calling for urgent measures, it does not rank high on the agendas of conversations with leaders of other nations. Nevertheless, the United States Government and private organizations give more attention to the subject than any donor countries except, perhaps, Sweden, Norway and Denmark.
  • France makes no meaningful contribution either financially or verbally. The USSR no longer opposes efforts of U.S. agencies but gives no support. In the LDCs, although 31 countries, including China, have national population growth control programs and 16 more include family planning in their national health services ── at least in some degree — the commitment by the leadership in some of these countries is neither high nor wide. These programs will have only modest success until there is much stronger and wider acceptance of their real importance by leadership groups. Such acceptance and support will be essential to assure that the population information, education and service programs have vital moral backing, administrative capacity, technical skills and government financing.
  • Recommendations:
  • Executive Branch
    a. The President and the Secretary of State should make a point of discussing our national concern about world population growth in meetings with national leaders where it would be relevant.
    b. The Executive Branch should give special attention to briefing the Congress on population matters to stimulate support and leadership which the Congress has exercised in the past. A program for this purpose should be developed by S/PM with H and AID.
  • World Population Conference
    a. In addition to the specific recommendations for action listed in the preceding sections, U.S. agencies should use the prestige of the World Population Plan of Action to advance all of the relevant action recommendations made by it in order to generate more effective programs for population growth limitation. AID should coordinate closely with the UNFPA in trying to expand resources for population assistance programs, especially from non-OECD, non-traditional donors. The U.S. should continue to play a leading role in ECOSOC and General Assembly discussions and review of the WPPA.
  • Department of State
    a. The State Department should urge the establishment at U.N. headquarters of a high level seminar for LDC cabinet and high level officials and non-governmental leaders of comparable responsibility for indoctrination in population matters. They should have the opportunity in this seminar to meet the senior officials of U.N. agencies and leading population experts from a variety of countries.
    b. The State Department should also encourage organization of a UNFPA policy staff to consult with leaders in population programs of developing countries and other experts in population matters to evaluate programs and consider actions needed to improve them.
    c. A senior officer, preferably with ambassadorial experience, should be assigned in each regional bureau dealing with LDCs or in State’s Population Office to give full-time attention to the development of commitment by LDC leaders to population growth reduction.
    d. A senior officer should be assigned to the Bureau of International Organization Affairs to follow and press action by the Specialized Agencies of the U.N. in population matters in developing countries.
    e. Part of the present temporary staffing of S/PM for the purposes of the World Population Year and the World Population Conference should be continued on a permanent basis to take advantage of momentum gained by the Year and Conference. Alternate View on 3.c. b. The Department should expand its efforts to help Ambassadorial and other high-ranking U.S.G. personnel understand the consequences of rapid population growth and the remedial measures possible. c. The Department would also give increased attention to developing a commitment to population growth reduction on the part of LDC leaders. Adequate manpower should be provided inS/PM and other parts of the Department as appropriate to implement these expanded efforts.
  • A I D. should expand its programs to increase the understanding of LDC leaders regarding the consequences of rapid population growth and their commitment to undertaking remedial actions. This should include necessary actions for collecting and analyzing adequate and reliable demographic data to be used in promoting awareness of the problem and in formulating appropriate policies and programs.
  • USIA. As a major part of U.S. information policy, the improving but still limited programs of USIA to convey information on population matters should be strengthened to a level commensurate with the importance of the subject.

Transcript: Professor David Clements Interviews Colonel John Mills – “The Deep State, Up Close and Personal”

We present here a TRANSCRIPT of a very long video from THE PROFESSOR’S RECORD, in which Prof. David Clements interviews Col. John Mills.

THANK YOU to GAIL COMBS for transcribing this terribly long but absolutely amazing interview.

Col. Mills reveals STARTLING information about so much – right out of the gate, he exposes the 2016 coup against Trump, and then goes right into the looming WORLD WAR WITH CHINA.

Then he goes back and fills in the details.

It’s well worth listening to, but if you want to find any of the AMAZING details later, this transcript will help. You can SEARCH this post and find where things are discussed.


LINK: https://rumble.com/vm40hn-col.-john-mills-the-deep-state-up-close-and-personal.html

There is a BACKUP of this interview, also on Rumble, which I will link here:

BACKUP: https://rumble.com/vm5xsp-lifelong-intelligence-officer-col.-john-mills-exposes-swamp-depth-and-bread.html

Here you go – 21 pages of interview broken up into SEVEN PIECES.

I have made a few very minor spelling corrections on critical things like names. Otherwise – RAW.


1.

ROUGH TRANSCRIPT

It IS A COUP
Comey & Brennan KNEW Russia was FAKE in summer 2016 but pushed the dis-info anyway. Col Mills was called on secure phone a couple days after the election to help “We need you to be part of and help craft and finish the narrative that Trump is a Russian Spy we need an intell community assessment.

Col Phil Waldron introduced to Prof.

Mills had a 35+ year security carreer.

1st Gulf war….

We are in the final stages in a world wide collision with China… we have to stare down China from going full kinetic because they are under incredible duress at home. As bad as it is here, there are incredibly bad things going on in China that force dictators to lash out.

12 minutes Different Commanders in Chief

Carter
Carter hapless fecklessness powerless Sound familiar? Rapid colapse of Iran closest model of what we saw in Kabul. Carter was the original Obama & Biden. It was our fault. WE were the problem Like the british socialists in the UK who unseated Churchill, Carter was all about GRACEFUL DECLINE & Dis-establishment of the USA. Managed Decline.

Reagan
Return of America. A Can Do positive attitute. As messed up as we are we are the best thing out there.

Bush Senior
Status quo Republicans. We are LIKE DEMOCRATS EXCEPT BETTER. Not a good sales point. Panama, Gulf war. Not interested in economy

Clinton
Un Peace keeping involvement, increased role of government
Nat security advisor IDed al-Qaeda as major problem but Cliton did nothing which lead to 9/11. Didn’t realize til sent to Joint staff at pentagon exposed to an incredible amount of military planning that went on in 97 & 98 & 99 after the bombings Khobar towers, American embassies, major planning to go after Bin Laden. Everyone of the plans briefed to the White House and TURNED DOWN.

Bush Senior
Bush was status Quo establishment. Afghanistan done well until pivoted vocus to Iraq I think there was a close connection to Iraq.

18:30 – Dave Asks what is the difference between ‘Managed Decline’ and non-interventionist foreign policy. [ Washington avoid foreign entanglements] & Reagan peace thru strength. Both concerned with the JUST WAR DOCTRINE. Constitution ‘Declare’ War not MAKE war which seems to mean we have to be ATTACKED. Trump response fierce. War hawks equate Non-intervensionist = isolationism.

What is difference between Managed Decline and non interventionist policy. The Bushes seemed to want to get us into every conflict to some degree. Trump to his credit is not the guy who says let’s go to war with everyone.

20:20 Col Mills
I think there is a significant difference. Managed decline is we are not that different we are just like everyone else. The British Socialists turned the British Empire into a socialist state that was totally focused on a cradle to grave massive expansion of social services that is unsustainable. Focused on making the citizen [actually SUBJECT] a ward of the state because we are hapless feckless and without the state could not survive. So it is a different concept.

I am a big believer in the Trump Doctrine. We are going to minimize our conflict. We are going to minimize our foreign involvement BUT deterrents and capability are always going to be there to deter conflict. But if you cross a red line we are going to hit you so hard you are not going to know what happened.

That is different from the Bushes which is this perpetual: we are always going to be massively deployed forward in conflict.

22 minutes: Dave: most people have made up mind on whether should have been in Afghanistan or Iraq. Later faulty reports on weapons of mass destruction.
Bushes & Clinton forever wars They were fine with us over extended ourselves until there was no sense of mission no sense of victory no sense of coming home. Bushes would wrap themselves in American Flag. I didn’t like that. We were still holding on to 9/11 which what ever the causes, brought us together briefly.

But that changed with Obama, where we were apologetic for our greatness. Apologetic for everything.

23:45 Col Mills: It is this leading from the rear, It’s this kind of third person, we’re in the bleachers wathing, we are going to let others take the lead. This makes no sense. We had the most capability, we are the most influential. I have done so much in the Special Op community and the office of sec of defense, so much international partner collaboration and partner building. THEY DESPERATELY WANT OUR LEADERSHIP!

And the Carter, Clinton Obama mentality is We’re the cause of the problem, by us even saying anything we are causing problems, so we’re going to let YOU LEAD THE CONVERSATION. When in actuality, most of these countries, the reason they are even dialogging with us is they look up to us. They desperately want to know what we have to say, they desperately want to say, your the greatest country in the world, SHARE WITH US. TALK TO US TELL US. And instead they get this John Kerry abstract lecturing that no one can make any sense out of…. They DESPISE being lectured to in the abstract about multilateral-ism, about all these Belfer Center Concepts. It’s like give me something tangible and actionable.

That is why I totally reject everyones comment that Oh. They didn’t like Trump. Actually I was in a lot of those meetings And THEY LOVED TRUMP because he was CLEAR with ACTIONABLE with TANGIBLE and when he spoke that had umph that had gravitous behind it.

25:54 Dave:
He was also a threat in the sense that he looked at the cost/benefit. He’s a guy in deal making. He knows a good deal vs a bad deal. And business was great for the Haliburtons, business was great for the ‘primes’ if you will, prime contractors. BUT they were not in the business of the Tax Payer getting a bargain and TRUMP THREATENED THAT by saying what is the international community doing. Are they holding up their end of the bargain. How much tax payer money is going to maintain their security in countries we have been in for a very long time. That made him public enemy #1 for the military Industrial complex.


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Dave: Let me switch gears.
In 2008, at start of Obama years what were you doing.

27 minutes Col Mills:
I was actually on the nat’l Security Council at the White House at the tail end of the Bush year & beginning of Obama. I was the senior dept. defence rep for what was called the Comprehensive Cyber Security Initiative. Most of it is unclassified. But was a massive ramp up of American cyper security capabilities. The Largest. Not all have been unclassified. It was one of my tasks during Obama years. It took us 18 months to de-classifiy certain potions of it. Democrats spend 60 to 90 days reviewing previous Admin.

It goes back to Dick Clarke, in 2002 & 2003. (Carter) In addition to IDing Al Qaeda, Bin Laden and saw our greatest strategic liability as our cyber vulnerabilities. Which lead to the CNCI program being established in 2007.

So the Obama admin reviewed it and not only did they like it, THEY LOVED IT, AND THEY WANTED MORE OF IT! And they wanted to pour gasoline on it. Because it provided breathtaking and magical capabilities. Which lead to some of the abuses we discovered later during SPYGATE. As to my shock, many of these collection capabilities actually were foundational to SPYGATE.

29:15 Dave
OK so we survive 8 years of attack on foundational things we THOUGHT WERE SACROSANCT, like health care from a Constitutional stand point. & Obamacare, we had the rise of Edward Snowden & the disclosures that were there. And then you have this last year of the Obama Admin where most people were betting on Hillary Clinton getting a shot. You have an upset, but not an upset for the American people. he seemed to be invincible. Thanks to the Apprentice people knew him and had a sense of who he was so he was able to brush off attacks that would have destroyed any other candidate.

So you have this period of time and you also have General Mike Flynn in the midst of his time with the Defense Intelligence agency. Trump likes what he is hearing from this guy, so there are a lot of moving parts. So what I want you to drill down now is, during that transition, Col John Mills, what were you seeing in real time and perhaps, what were you asked to do by the various heads of different agencies.

31:45 minutes: Col Mills
It on one hand it is complex and on the other it is simple. With this ramp-up of cyber capabilities, which provided an intoxicating increase year per year in the ability to collect big data and use big data analytics at cyber speed to make sense and take action. And there is a lot more behind what I am talking about which I am not allowed to say. But if you were to stand on the watch floors of these major centers and watch and see the simultaneous capabilities it was breath taking.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
FBI watching terrorist but doing NOTHING, yet goad and lead and go after Patriots.

Haney murder called suicide.

What purpose of Afghanistan, Taliban, open borders????
FALSE FLAG??? SEE: Napolitano

33 minutes Dave:
So let me stop here. Most people don’t have.. Don’t share anything you can’t. Are you talking about a ?borg? movie and being able to in like a work room… the immediacy of finding information, whether it is surveillance through video, OR….
Col Mills : ALL OF THE ABOVE
Dave: OK, so that’s not just Hollywood. So we have the ability to drill down and have a map of everyone’s LIFE, really. If you look at the metadata it tells us so much.

33 minutes – Col Mills:
It really matured in 2012 under General Keith Alexander, and we also created Cyber Command in addition to NSA. But yes, the simultaneous capability to collect data of all kinds, pictures, voice traffic, data packages, data traffic machine to machine, internet, etc… Monitor Collect and INTEGRATE ALL OF THESE, it was an incredible capability.

Dave: Where do you come down on that. I am a small l libertarian. Libertarians are considered so naive because of the very things you are talking about. But at the same time we have got this thing called the Bill of Rights. we’ve got this thing called the fourth Amendment, we’ve got this thing called an OATH and I know you had to take to uphold and defend the Constitution.

What happens to the 4th Amendment. Have you had to do a gut check to be in the intel community. OK I know what I swore an oath to, I know what it says, something about having probable cause, someone being suspected of a crime, and yet many of the disclosures of Snowden shows that. No this was bulk collection thru a FISA Court, it is almost like a rubber stamp.

Explain to us. That might be a question a lot of us would like to ask is how do you reconcile the machine that you didn’t create but you are in the soup, right, How do you make sense of this by being a good soldier or someone who is serving my country while knowing this has got to be dangerous. It is almost like splitting the atom. Good stuff but a lot of bad stuff could happen.

35:20 – Col Mills
Well this is a, again the alliance between the US Government and Google and Big Tech, didn’t really.. I was there the first few years of the Obama admin & there was a dance. But they came together in 2010, 2012 and to address your specific question, I have mentioned the word INTOXICATING. That is the challenge, once this magic is unleashed, and policy makers appointed or elected or carreerists start to see the capabilities it becomes INTOXICATING and it is no longer can we the question a reasonable person who has taken an oath to the Constitution should be raising is should we. And do we have the proper control mechanisms. Are people who are doing this doing it for the correct and right purposes. And I think the challenge is the collection far surpassed the standing checks such as the FISA process. It totally swamped and overwhelmed it.

This is where POTUS Trump’s term the Swamp and the Deep State. At first when I first heard those terms I was going I don’t know what they mean and after a while I realized I’m IN IT. I help to create this!

We need more & more White Hats to stand up and question this because these capabilities have begun to be used in mass against the American People to suppress and censor. We are facing an absolutely unprecedented Iron Curtain of censorship, that that, I do not mean this pejoratively or simplistically. Liberals always like to bemoan the McCarthy era, well I go there is only one person, if you understand history, that lost there job and that was McCarthy. Everyone else came out far better who were on “The Blacklist” Well I am sorry but this is McCarthyism on steroids, what we are dealing with right now. A lot of the foundational tools and capabilities were created for originally good purposes. [SEE: Haney above] Of course we want to track terrorists but we also have people who are in power now who have a very interesting definition of ‘Terrorist’ and they are using these capabilities in the wrong direction and the wrong way.


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38:25 Dave
The next question I want to ask you picking up from what you just said is, You have this thing that I’ve heard of and it’s Hammer and Scorecard. Is this real? [@ ~38:45 you can see Col Mills stifle a laugh] What do you know about Hammer and Scorecard. You talk of the Cyber Strategic Command, this unholy alliance between Google, the Obama Administration around 2012. But a lot of this stuff you are talking about is alarming for a couple reasons. Because when I was a prosecutor I learned about this system called Prism. [ @ ~39:15 Col Mills starts nodding.] And Prism was being used in a way where the DEA was giving tips to other law enforcement agencies and of course the prosecutors weren’t informed. Because if we knew the source of the tip, you have to disclose it under Brady vs Maryland. Under the confrontation clause everyone, everyone who is criminally accused should be able to ask questions of the people in the system. [@ ~39:35 Col Mills smile widens] And they created this way of training to hide and keep secret Prism so you had parallel reconstruction. [Nods again]

So when you talk about this intoxicating power, WOW so if you can keep this secret, [@39:55 BIG NOD] we can start GAMING the way we go after ‘Bad People’ [opens mouth and shakes head] and perhaps in the ‘name of GOOD’ get a result but violate certain Constitutional protections where we are actually as big a lawbreakers as the people we are going after. [Nods again]

I know PRISM is different than Hammer and Scorecard, but a lot of these terms we hear about and it is almost like this mythic thing. But it is becoming more relevant now because we have watched Mike Lindell’s Cyber Symposium. We’ve seen what appears to be packet captures. And a lot of people are saying where did this stuff come from. Is there a plausible theory based on sources since that seems to be the Million Dollar Question. Maybe you can’t answer that, but I was at the Cyber Symposium, [Col Mills’ eyes shift to left several times] I tried to ask everyone and their Mom, as a Law prof, I do not know where to even begin to ask those questions. Since I have you here, I know I just threw a lot at you. — UMMM HAMMER & SCORECARD, what do we need to know about that….

41:26 Col Mills
OK, under the laws regarding Top Secret there is essentially a 25 year embargo on top secret level information, so I will obfuscate here [Dave laughs, OK] But I think you are hitting the nail on the head. These capabilities easily pervert what was originally what was on white hats mind on… We all want to see justice done. We want to see lawful civil society. We want to see bad people put away. But unfortunately unless you constantly check yourself or there is a way you are held accountable, and there are control measures on the floor at NSA and other intelligence centers and during main operations. You have to be careful. I would say up until recently it was very common to self-report when you accidentally collected on an American. That was considered right and noble and those things happened…. Have to call in the lawyers….

I think unfortunately with some it was past that where it became a tee-hee, tee-hee LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO. And LOOK at how we can SPY on someone who has just become nominated as a candidate to become President. Tee-hee, tee-hee, let’s all go up to Fort Mead and have a small group meeting. And share the information tee-hee, tee-hee.

So I think the challenge is the lack of transparency, the velocity of collection, the exponential increase in the ability to collect. It really throws a lot of the accepted norms and practices out the window. Because it is now the J Edger Hoover mentality that takes over. Where who cares we are the final arbitrators of goodness, therefore That’s OUR CALL AND WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.

43:58 – Dave
You gave me the best non-answer I have ever heard.

But you let me know why, so I am hearing from John Mills that you can neither confirm nor deny the existence of a certain program.

@44:10 – Col Mills
On Hammer & Scorecard I will say I have been part of so many darned named operations and code words, sometimes it gets a little foggy in my mind. But there were cabilities developed and this was back during … I will group Hammer & Scorecard if it did exist.. crossed with the capabilities during the 2005 to 2008… so even before Obama was on board.

I call these remote access capabilities. Which, I am not going to name the person, but back in the 80s kinda pioneered the original remote access through dial-up. I kinda call Ferris Bueller’s Day Off [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091042/] There is this one gentleman he is fairly well known, and he no longer works for the agency, he is retired. And actually he was out in your neck of the woods there at one of the Labs and held one of the Chair Seats out there. And he pioneered the access thru dial-ups [Dave is chuckling & nodding ] Which is the first generation of remote access and he was going WOW, just like Ferris Bueller was going and figuring out how to access and change grades. So people went WOW, I can just dial-up and change anything I want to, this is cool! So some crazy things went on.

@45:50 – DAVE
I am going to move on, but the reason I am asking the question maybe to plant the seed for some questions ahead.

Is the mechanism of how, cyber interference took place in 2020, 2018, 2016, [@46:15 Col Mills nods] The tools of the trade..

The question I want to ask anyone because I am operating on blind faith, is that you have got this very public campaign, of Mike Lindell [Col’s Eyes shift left] putting his money where his mouth is. Finding White Hats and Patriots, [Col’s Eyes shift left] part of me says look, God Bless Himm, but I don’t believe the fate of the free world, and the information collected by Mike Lindell, like it is all depending on this man. When we had someone as savvy as President Trump, the Commander in Chief, the most powerful man world and just to review his greatness, I have been catching up on The Art of The Deal, [ Col smiles & nods] And seeing how the man’s mind works. I just find it unfathomable that the military during his watch, whether it is 2018 or 2020, [Col’s Eyes shift left] didn’t have the real time ability, to monitor what was going on. [Col Mills INTERUPTS…]

@47:25 – Col Mills
OK so we are now to a very specific question. So here is my VIEW POINT ON IT. <=== [a bit if a strawman?]

One, I love Mike Lindell and I am a big supporter of Mike Lindell.
Two, was there foreign interference? I THINK ABSOLUTELY.

In the first two films that Mike presented, which were really the work of Dennis Montgomery and  Mary Fanning [Hammer & Scorecard] Umm, Umm, Let me just say, umm… I, I, I, …analyzed this and there were 6 possible outcomes, bottom line that quality and that visibility is essentially nation state level.

AND Unless you are standing at the watch floor of Fort Mead or the FBI has some capability, or DHS, you aren’t going to see that BUT they didn’t see that I hold the Federal Government to the SAME STANDARDS. The reality is there is only a few federal laws on the conduct of elections so neither Law Enforcement nor the Intelligence Community HAD THE LEGAL AUTHORITY CHARTER STARTING POINT TO LOOK THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE RIGHT EVIDENCE and I know Chris Krebs [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Krebs], I know what went on. They did not have the people, program, resources, legal authority, or even KNOW HOW of how elections are conducted. To tune our collection capabilities to look for the right things.

So I question what Dennis Montgomery and  Mary Fanning presented but at the same time I hold the Federal Government to the SAME STANDARDS and they are not being truthful because they do not have the legal charter to begin with on the conduct of elections, they do not have experience on the conduct of elections. So when Chris Krebs says or when Paul Nakasone [https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Nakasone_03-25-21.pdf] says most secure election ever, THEY HAVE NO IDEA.

I think it would be far more truthful for them to say we aren’t trained to do this, we don’t know what to look for, we do not have the people, programs or resources.

@50:00 Dave:

Perhaps the question I am asking, perhaps there is only a small number of people who know the answer. I gather that Chris Krebs didn’t know what he is talking about as soon as he opened his mouth based on just common sense of what was going on in real time….
[lists examples of fraud]
Trump was tweeting in advance about how fraud was going to be carried out. [@ 50:45 Col Mills eyes to left, then looks down smiles and tries to hide a laugh] It was almost as if he had a crystalball. And umm [Col Interupts]

@50:52: Col Mills
I’ll tell yeah, I was asked to write almost a hundred memos to analyze from spring of 2020 to December 2020 umm ahh on essentially umm what election integrity was, what that meant, I’ll claim I coined the term election integrity. And the RNC seemed to magically discover the term on Jan 7th. But I wrote many memos on that. On July there was a tweet from the president that essentially came from one of the things that I wrote. [cuts eyes to the right twice] So there was a small group of us that saw it coming. And WE KNEW THE FIX WAS IN.

And we were willing to do some analysis. And not just operate from an accepted narrative.

@52:00 – Dave
OK, so I am glad to hear that. And you mentioned that Krebs & Co. either weren’t looking at the problem, or had the resources to evaluate it. But there have been discussions at least in some circles about the Exec Order that was signed in 2018 that dealt with foreign interference. [Col smiles and nods head emphatically] Any thoughts as to why it would have been signed. [Col. bursts out laughing] And I want to say that it was re-authorized last September which would have covered one calendar year [interrupt yeh, and still laughing smiling] and the timing of that is there any hope that perhaps although the swamp is deep, there seems to be a lot of people surrounding the President that don’t seem to be looking out for him or We the People. What do you think prompted that and instead of telling me about whether something has happened as a result of it cause I don’t think you will be able to give me an answer to that. What COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BASED ON THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER BEING SIGNED.

@53:14 — Col Mills
yeah, very simple, most of this fell upon the shoulders of the Attorney General. And the swampiest part of this swamp is I would say, in some ways I’d say a tie between the Dept of State but it is really the Department of Justice. In some ways Barr did more than any attorney general ever attempted to break up the swamp but he finally caved, folded and came out throwing the president under the bus. Most of this would fall under the attorney general to look into specific things.

One of the basic elements the Attorney General has never enforced, is three elements in 18 US code. There is no debate about it you have to be a US citizen to vote yet counties and states have worked with the DOJ willfully to register voters who are unlawful. … Barr FAILED to ENFORCE. In Virginia, 8 to 12 % are unlawful. We got that via jury duty rejection which comes straight from the voter roles.


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@ 55:15 Dave:
OK now speaking of Attorney Generals, we have the beginning of the Trump admin, you’re still keeping an eye on the cyber components and the cyber threats to our nation. I am getting a lot of questions about the timing or purpose of Jeff Sessions. The very short tenure. The reason why it comes up is because of the timing of when John Durham came on board. Heres another mystery figure that none of us see him, none of us hear from him. I think we started to hear from him oddly enough, from Bill Barr. There are some things that are curious. Apple informed Adam Shiff and Eric Swalwell who were two high ranking members of the intel committee. Oh BTW we have been disclosing documents and stuff you have been in possession of over the past four years. I think that came out this past May. As a prosecutor who has convined Grand Juries, you have to have the subpoena power to do that. And it has to originate from some where. The fact that Apple was complying with some sort of subpoena for four years was very curious because that would have pre-dated Bill Barr. Oddly enough it seems to start with the start of the Trump admin. And you have this very short lived appointment of Jeff Sessions. You have had some interfacing with John Durham thru your work. Can you connect some of the dots for us on what do you know about John Durham. What have you don to help assist this. And is there anything I have said that you can flesh out and separate fact from fiction.

@ 57:35 — Col. Mills
Quick chronology from the summer of 2016.
I was in the halls of the Pentagon in the summer of 16 just a few days before the Republican Convention to nominate Trump. And someone who had been a Bush appointee, I ran into him and said, you’re going to support Trump Right? And I will never forget this, this is literally verbatim what he said:

No, We see more OPPORTUNITIES with HER!

I got in his face and said who is WE? And what opportunities do you see? From that point on I was a thousand percent Trump. And that is when I realized there is a Swamp.

So Summer of 16 is really when Crossfire Hurricane really started. And Comey and Brennan.

Now I was part of something linking back to C&CI. There was a body called the Cyber Response Group, [CRG] that I kind of departed about 2014. But the CRG kinda became important and maybe was the body… We heard about unmasking, Susan Rice, things like that…. So the CRG I helped set up way back in 2007, 2008. But the Obama Admin kinda repurposed that group. And just because of the roles and responsibilities I don’t think they wanted me in it. I kinda ceased participating. The CRG kinda became the center of gravity for certain special Cyber things OK? Which may have included the unmasking activities in 2015, 2016. So I think they were starting to really ramp up for the election, conveniently had these incredible collection capabilities, as things moved towards summer of 2016, and Trump being nominated, and when Trump was nominated in summer of 2016, I think all the capabilities started to focus on him.

All those capabilities we were talking about pivoted anda Significant Element Let’s FOCUS ON THIS TARGET.

@ 1:00:25 – DAVE
Do you think that would have occurred if you had some establishment like Mitt Romney? Do you think that apparatus [INTERRUPT]

1:00:35 – Col Mills
I think it would have happened and they would have beat the stuffing out of Mitt Romney, 300 dollar hair cut guys I like to call them, and he would have just lost gracefully. Because that tradition and lineage, as I have delved more into election integrity and politics, There is a money class and a donor class and a political class that is far more concerned with ‘gracefully losing’

So Yeah, they would have focused on Romney, they would have beat the stuffing out of him, he would and the RNC would have collected a lot of money and said, Well guys we gave it the old college try. We will just have to donate MORE MONEY to try it again next time.

1:00:12 – Dave
So I guess my question is,… I have disabused myself in thinking there is a great difference between the Left and the Right, I have heard Eric Winestein refer to K-fabrication it is a lot like Professional wrestling….[Prof’s, recollections he is a fan. Col Mills laughs] … Do you have a sense there is a Deep State that says, you know something, A lot of this is just OPTICS, [Col smiles and nods and goes UnHuh] and sometimes the Ds are going to get their ways, and sometimes the Rs are going to get their’s but what is important is that we do not disturb the status quo on a few major things like, the Military Industrial complex, the Federal Reserve policies, make sure you do not touch that Federal Reserve, things like that. Or do you really think there is these deep divided factions between Left and Right. Because when I see George W. holding hands and sharing mementos with Michelle Obama, When I see the affection after they go thru the wars and then all of a sudden when they retire, they are all best friends. It reminds me of Professional Wrestling. Do you have that same sense?

1:03:00 – Col Mills
It has evolved into that direction. That is what it has become and I mentioned that discussion that I ran into a Bush appointee and I asked him, you’re going to support Trump Right? And his response is:

No we see more opportunities with her.

In my mind that immediately flashed, Oh my gosh, there IS NO DIFFERENCE, They are the same thing. There is this little show dynamics, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, but it is predominantly a D lead Swamp and the Republicans are, it is just like with, Newt Gingrich and his Revolution in 94, he came in and was originally told, We are the minority, don’t worry about it, don’t do anything, just spend most of your day playing golf. NO!, not going to do that so he was a disruptive event.

Trump was a disruptive event. NO! I am not going to play along with this.

So, Yes there is, Romney will SAY, Oh, No I am fighting for these values – No he isn’t. He is very happy to lose gracefully, because they are benefactors of the same process. It has evolved into that.

1:04:15 – Dave
Let me drill down on one thing, I touched on but I haven’t gotten your thoughts on yet. You talked about this intoxicating machinery that started to be aimed at Pres. Trump in the summer of 2016. This guy is not good for the Swamp. Find out everything you can about him, let’s crush this guy. And then something happened. He wasn’t CRUSHED, every poll was wildly off, every single celebrity and stink News Host was eating Humble Pie. But it didn’’t take them long from saying he’s here so let’s never let this happen again. So take us thru that fall of Sept 16 and I want to get your thoughts on John Durham as well.

1:05:15 – Col Mills
So I think what happened is, Trump’s their guy so focus all resources on CRUSHING HIM. But they had not perfected the art thru electronic means thru election machines, thru absentee voting means, they had not perfected the art of dominating the vote yet. That occurred in 2020. They did not realize that Trump would generate this turnout, this interest that he had. Especially in several key states.

But they wanted to CRUSH AND DESTROY HIM ANYWAY.

So in early October, I was at a dinner in London, and it just so happened, that someone who was a very senior official in the FBI essentially the head of Cyber at the FBI for a number of years. Who retired and went to work for a major up and coming cyber firm that I am not going to mention right now. But I think you can start putting the pieces together and figure out who I am talking about and which Cyber Security firm. I was there on a Five Eyes information sharing meeting in London. And I had been invited to this dinner. This very senior former official, I believe it was October 6th, 2016. There were about 100 of us at this dinner, most everybody is an elite, a Globalist. At these dinners we are asked to stand up and say something about ourselves and something we are passionate about. And he stood up and I have know this guy for a number of years, Sat at the White House with him, been at many meeting with him, and he had been very helpful to me, in some other endeavors which caused a great deal of allegiance to him.

When the microphone came to him, he stood up and says, TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN ASSET AND WE’RE GOING TO PROVE IT! He was adamant, passionate, he had a meltdown. I had never seen him do this.

Most of the people in the room are going ?? PFFFFttt [WTF??] What are you talking about, Hillary’s going to win. And he is like WE ARE GOING TO PROVE IT!

As more information came out, I believe he was in London at the behest of James Comey, and to coordinate with Gina Haspel on collection against Trump….. With the timeline of the events that I have seen…. It was documented by Rick Grennell and Ratcliffe, information declassified last fall, very important, that Comey gave the green light to spin Crossfire Hurricane up to highest levels. Essentially in the last few days of Sept, early Oct…. And I am pretty sure that personality was there.

I have 27 pages in front of John Durham. [Eyes cut to left twice, & stutters] I hope something happens.

We have to be a Constitutional based society.


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1:21:47 – Col Mills
Well I think it was all of the above. [eyes to left] But I will mention there was a gentleman [eyes left] who was deputy assistant sec for defense for cyber, I was in another office but I worked closely with. He moved up to be with Ash Carter, as essentially Chief of Staff and a person called Eric Rosenbock. I think he is one of the interesting personalities in this….. I remember seeing him the day, after the election and he was a zombie…. And I talked to him… He was in shock…. It was rumored that very likely… Alexander was director of NSA and Cyber command and they were going to separate and word was Rosenbock under Hillary would be director of NSA. And he would be in a strategic position to go back and review some of the collections going on during 2016. Your listeners can interpret what that means. [remove embarrassing D communications and tweek other communications so they could be used to convict enemies would be my guess. – ‘beating Donald Trump is not enough. He has to be crushed to the earth, and squashed like a bug. We have to burn down his village, pillage his valley, shame his horde and send his army into hiding so that he and his ugly, hate-spewing kind never rise again.’ READ ==> https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-lose-badly-abolish-hate-brewing-u-s-article-1.2724357 ]

I think he was an important player, he is at the Balfour center @ Harvard right now.

There were a lot of personalities, I mentioned Susan Rice and the unmasking that the CRG may have had a role in.

1:24:00 – Dave
So you have all this stuff going on. And then you have the inauguration. Trump gets by despite the efforts of the enemy to saboyage [Col nods] And then you have what looks like major leaking going on. [Col oh yeah, oh yeah]

1:24:20 – Col Mills
You had the Vindmans… who were unbelievable, unprofessional, unethical. You had the Deep Staters running around. Remember the Executive Office of the President is roughly about 7,000 folks. Many of them are careerists and military that have been detailed over from their departments and agencies. And Again DC [Dave- Interrupts]

1:24:55 – Dave
So do you think Trump responded day one to deal with the leaks.

1:25:00 – Col Mills
I think there are too many Never Trumpers on his administration. There were too many careerists that were actively working and facilitating, — again the person who invited me was a carreerist who called me up and said John we need you on this group. And he was just GIDDY WITH EXCITEMENT cause we’re gonna PROVE… and he is a careerist. He should not have a position. So from Day one it was challenging. [I think they used ‘Trump is a Russia asset’ to POISON anyone who would other wise be neutral.–GC]
You mentioned Jeff Sessions. I really liked Jeff Sessions. I think Jeff Sessions Faux Pax was he acted as if there was normalcy going on. [He still believed we had rule of law – GC] And he thought he was doing the right thing by… Because that is what we do as professionals, we appoint Special Counsels [Remember these were his colleagues and friends. I do not think he was aware of how bad the rot and EVIL was and actually though he was going to clear Trump’s name. – GC] Instead of saying NO! I want more evidence and detail. [Which he actually could not do because of his conflict of interest -GC] Because it was a fraud, a lie, 18 US Code a false statement by a Federal Official…. Comey and Brennan should be indicted for false statements at a minimum. I think Jeff Sessions was lied to. But he thought he was doing the right thing.

1:26:30 – Dave – Right thing you mean by recusing himself

Col Mills, by recusing himself and by allowing the appointment of a special prosecutor. Up until that time there was a BC -AD in Washington. 2016, BC with Trump it was after that.

1:26:55 – Dave
We have been going a long time, I am learning a lot and I am loving it
I want to touch on two people though. You have General Mike Flynn, [ eyes to left] there was a thought for a role in the Trump admin. That did not come to fruition. Any observations 2016 on. Either the threat that Flynn presented to the Deep State. [chewing lips.] Because there was obviously there was a bogus entrapment case if you want to call it that that was set-up to incriminate him over nothing since we have just established that the Russia Hoax was a BIG LIE. [Smile.]

So let’s start there, what do you make of Mike Flynn during this time frame.

Col Mills: He is another disruptive event. He is a disruptive event to the Army General and to the military general officers, flag officer culture because he is an American patriot. And he wants to do the right thing. As we have discovered under the current Chairman Milley, What in the bloody world has happened top our general officers and admirals gofos serving Caesar and not the Constitution. Trump was disruptive, Flynn was disruptive, he was a threat. He was a threat to small ‘C’ conservative military culture, he was a threat to the swamp. They contrived, took him out and this contrived PENCE firing, I thought, did Pence KNOW it was all fake? I don’t know, but in the end Pence Choked on Jan 6, 2021. When I believe he had a lawful…. Where he should have AT LEAST asked clarifying questions of the State electors. He chose not to, he choked and the rest is history. So this contrived firing, Flynn was disruptive and a threat.


6.

JOHN DURHAM
I think this is critical so a bit of background info.

July 17 2021: X-22 Report Why They Can’t Find Special Counsel John Durham
https://x22report.com/why-they-cant-find-special-counsel-john-durham/
This goes into how the media got Bill Clinton off the hook. “…prosecutor Ken Starr made one huge mistake right at the start after he was appointed by a panel of judges to handle a very politically sensitive investigation involving a series of shady-looking bank loans related to a failed land deal called “Whitewater”…. The mistake Starr made was that he opted to be as completely transparent as he could during the course of his investigation, to demonstrate he was not some secret inquisitor. And Democrats and their news media allies took full and complete advantage of Starr’s naïve transparency…. Whereas before such vicious scorched-earth tactics had been reserved for the multiple women who had dared to come forward and publicly talk about their liaisons with Clinton – or about his attempts to sexually force himself upon them – now they would utilize upon a Special Counsel and his staff….”

prognosticatasaurusrex
https://www.theqtree.com/community/profile/prognosticatasaurusrex/
“…involving my previous and current employer who just happened to purchase a health care system that was losing @50 MILLION a month, and could not be GIVEN away. The purchase went through late Oct 2019…just before…Covid started to rear its ugly head. To make a long story short, the “worthless” health care system NOW turns a multi million dollar PROFIT. Just 2 short years later…and trust me it has NOTHING to do with improved “management”, and ALL to do with “special” funding given to hospitals, research, and health care providers for Covid…..”

“….Durham, recently indicted Michael a Sussman, a Hillary Clinton and Perkins Coie (remember them from all my writings?) lawyer. On the surface it seemed a big nothing burger meant to distract and placate us on team MAGA, while the Arizona audit was being revealed. The MSM even helped to propagate that narrative. BUT, if one were to read the entire 27 pages, it was NOT a nothing burger, but a PREDICATE. This is THE ground work. It is, I truly believe, the beginning of the END of ALL of them…..” READ THE REST
https://www.theqtree.com/2021/10/01/dear-kag-2021-10-01/comment-page-2/#comment-809435

“…about The Sullivan part, but it was apparently to bid to reply to. I am hearing that Priestap, Baker, and get this Page and Strzok are now “cooperating” If that is true, shit is about to get deep for the FBI, CIA, and the DS. Baker et al lead DIRECTLY to the Obama WH, and that INCLUDES Bite me. Remember that infamous Jan 5th meeting? IF Durham gets ANY player there, it is GO time….”
READ THE REST
https://www.theqtree.com/2021/10/01/dear-kag-2021-10-01/comment-page-2/#comment-810268

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Back to the transcript:

Dave: We are going to go rapid fire, I still have not heard about JOHN DURHAM [Both smiling] What do you know about John Durham. Give me your best thoughts on how he fits into this and is there any hope. [big smile] I am of the mind, and I will give you my thought on this. When I was a prosecutor, I went after indictments I never presented a media report. [nods] I never issued a report to the media… I never did that once [Eyes shift left.]…. Why would I tell what I have on the bad guys so they can now prepare. [continues to smile] I find that very bizarre. I know that Mueller had this report. Maybe that is part of the cultural zeitgeist we are all expecting to be debriefed. [eyes shift left twice.] Mueller, what he was doing was political theatre. If Durham is real [opens mouth to speak] and there is actual meat on the bones, [smiles] tactically that would be a very STUPID thing to do.

But is John Durham Real?

What bearing does your work have if anything on what John Durham is doing? [big smile]

And from a timeline stand point do you have a firm sense of when he entered the picture?

Col Mills: As you know he is a prosecutor and as you know all these things are held close to the vest as law enforcement sensitive and as legal preceedings. So let me go, a lot of this is not publicaly known, it is not even known to involve-es such as me. I submited my 27 pages. It took me almost two years to absolutely insure that they had it, they received it, they acknowledged it and hopefully something was going to be done with it.

Dave: When did you submit your 27 pages.

Col Mills: Well I submitted it several times. But I didn’t have confirmation, it was early 2020. I was submitting pieces of it to DOJ and Barr since early 2018.

Dave: Ok so your part of that the 27 pages, does that more or less cover what you shared with our audience about the lack of good faith with Comey already having a pre-determined decision and having something he was going to sign off on. Was that what you were submitting to John Durham? Your involvement on basically giving a rubber stamp for the Russia hoax.

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Col Mills: Yeah it was that but it was even beyond that. I mean this one important detail. I happened to be at a meeting in DC in early 2018. And the person I was meeting came in and said you know the whose in the next room? No no whose in the next room? They said a guy named Michael Hayden. General Micheal Hayden. He is on his twice a week coordinating call – THIS IS EARLY 2018, early 2018 — he is on his twice a week coordinating call with Brennan who is OUT OF OFFICE, COMEY who is in OFFICE [Trump fired Comey on May 9, 2017], And I believe it was Mueller who was the forth personality. WHAT in the BLOODY WORLD are these four people, some who were actually in office… Why are they coordinating talking points. And they are FROM ONE SIDE OF THE AISLE and FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE and like you said they are together. [WIKI–”… investigation was conducted by special prosecutor Robert Mueller from May 2017 to March 2019.” Col Mills may have his dates mixed and this was in early 2017 before the Special Council when Comey was still in office.]

Dave: If memory serves, Brennan had his privileges (clearance?] revoked. [Col. nods] That is why they started taking jobs with CNN and so it is odd that some of those folks like Comey was still privy to information. [NO NOT FORGET NEED TO KNOW!!!] It sounds like he was sharing information with folks that he shouldn’t be. Col Mills says ABSOLUTELY!!!

So what I am going to do now is a rapid fire line of questions if you can answer these with a very short answer….

So if you had to ID a person [½ smile] that presents the greatest threat domestically to the Republic. Not talking of foreign actors. Who comes to mind. [Col big smile]

1:33:54
Col Mills: WOW, Comey, Brennan, Hayden, and Hayden I had so much respect for, I really thought he was incredible, I think the 3 of them are bad actors. I think the entire current admin. is uninterested in a constitutional concept called America.

Dave: So not one person but a Hydra with many heads.

…….

I think they are missing the fact the ‘hydra’ is just the go-fors.


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This gets into China.

BACKGROUND:
Jack Posobiec, Joe Hoft and Steve Bannon has been warning that China is not in good shape.
China Is In A Financial Crisis (6 minutes)
https://rumble.com/vnbutg-china-is-in-a-financial-crisis.html

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Back to the transcript.

Dave: Same question but foreign stage. You mentioned China

Col Mills: That’s China absolutely. With the debacle in Kabul by this administration demonstrating an absolute lack of resolve or interest in asserting American values much less the coalition of liberal democrat republics in their opposition to China, We/they have created an almost unstopable trajectory towards world war. China looks at the fecklessness of this administration as a Green Light. Now they are under great duress at home. Shi is under great domestic duress. We don’t realize it. [Counting on his fingers]

  1. They input roughly 50% of their food.
  2. Roughly 50% of their energy
  3. The have to conduct all their transactions in the almighty dollar. [Not true. Australia has a deal to deal in yen.]

We can easily constrict them and disable them by squeezing any of them or all three of those.

  1. Afghanistan gave them the land bridge to their oil access in Iran.
  2. A lot of their food comes from America and if the current resident of the white house was serious about asserting American and Western interests he would use that as leverage.
    3.Xi is on a rampage destroying his own companies and IPOs because of the fear he has of his own big Tech. So he is kinda taking care of that for us. It is bizzare he is destroying his own economy because he feels they are a threat. But it is China China China.

Dave: So there is basically a Chinese Deep State that he is dealing with even though we don’t see them as the good guys in what ever iteration. [smiles & nods]

The food is interesting because I have seen a bit of a propaganda campaign with the Bill Gates and the GMOs [eyes shift left twice] of the world who are trying to persuade us to eat really really crappy food.[eyes shift left] There is this really big kick to get us away from beef and cattle and stuff that provides great nutrition [eyes shift left, smiles] and I bring that up because I know that China is one of the primary consumers of meat, beef [nods] and we have got what they don’t have which is these large swaths of grazing lands. And it just makes you wonder if that propaganda campaign to get people on the Burger King Impossible burger or these documentaries like plant nation. [eyes shift left] If that’s part of the propaganda wing. And I say that because we already see that when it comes to distribution, Chinese control of our theaters, Chinese control over what movies America can show in their respective land. There are quotas on the number of films. It is kind of interesting that you brought up those three pillars. I do not think people realize how important the food component is. That is one of the major areas that we could apply tremendous pressure to reassert ourselves. [nods]

OK now I want to end on a more positive note. So let me ask you this John, You and I seem to be on the same page with what occurred November 3rd as being tantamount to a coup. What hope do you have and what gives you the resolve to fight each day. Cause I’ll tell you right now, that I talked on the phone with Lin Wood, yesterday for about 2 hours. And we are both tired. We have been fighting every day in any way we know how [nods] and it was humbling because Lin has been fighting a long time taking on all comers but it was the first time I sensed a weariness from him. Something has got to give. [murmurs assent] It’s September. If we go thru another election cycle and I am saying of 2021, there are other elections that are going to continue we to use these machines that we know are absolutely compromised. [eyes shift left] And if we keep overlaying garbage with more fraudulent garbage it creates the perception that everything is OK. We need to solve the murder mystery of November 3 last year. [nods] So if you could send us on our way, if there is a charge you can give my viewers on why we have got to keep fighting. Where do you draw your strength from [[eyes shift right, smile] and what would you like to see happen.

Co Mills: Well, we have no choice. There is no where else to go as I think Lt General Flynn has said. We have no choice we have to fight. Even as weary as we are as insurmountable as the odds may seem, we have no choice. We have to fight. And I think there is a growing movement that is unstoppable even though we are facing this iron curtain of censorship, I think there is a growing movement between Arizona, between Georgia, Pennsylvania. It is US the people. We’re the ones in control. It’s the COUNY, the county we must re-assert ourselves at the county level.

So I feel as tough as it may seem, as insurmountable as the odds may seem, we are actually building momentum in multiple areas and it is average individual citizens who are rising up. In Virginia we are pushing for a forensic audit. Senator Manachase is leading that the establishment doesn’t like that. They just want to focus on the gubernatorial election. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can take care of November 3rd and address an upcoming election. We can do these. So I have absolute faith and confidence because I can see a growing tide of citizens who will not relent they will be persistent and they will push themselves at the school board level at the county election board, its us and we are not going to accept the status quo.Because that’s what got us, we always assume someone else would take care of the election process. Yes someone else was taking care of the election process. That is why we are in this mess. It is time for us the citizen to get involved and I see it.

I have been fighting this since the 2019 elections in Virginia. I realized the utter massive fraud in Virginia. And I purposed myself so I have been going since then on this topic. I see positive momentum going our direction. We have to show resolve this is a battle of Wills. This is a battle of wills and we must persevere.

Dave: Well, Colonel John Mills, I have learned a ton tonight. You have helped connect some dots for me….

ColMills: Thank you so much Professor. Social media… Colonel ret john on Gettr …

Amazing group of veterans called:
National Election Integrity Association Website
WWW.NEIA.US
We have some incredible films at that website…. I have trained and equipped six foreign national militaries, organized trained and equipped. We are available to organized trained and equip citizens at the county level to retake their election system, their election process and all other functions such as the county school board. We give a very specific actionable model and steps to train and equip the patriot at the county level. A number of groups are signing up across the nation and we are walking them through and we are seeing great results.

END


WOW!

Now THAT’s an interview.

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The Attack on Tucker Carlson is Classic Weissmann DOJ/FBI Treachery

I knew there was something wrong with the “NSA” spying on Tucker Carlson. NSA spying is traditionally SO deep and so quiet that nobody ever knows anything about it. That’s the way they operate. Big, deep, huge, silent, and NEVER give even a HINT of the magnitude, or the IDEA that it might be abused.

Blowing that on a journalist? Yeah, right.

Even a guy like Tucker.

NSA spying is designed to put all the data in a black hole, out of which any of it ONLY emerges if truly needed. It’s an interesting way to deal with the appearance and disappearance of evidence over time.

IF the cops are honest, and IF they are never conquered, THEN they can hold all our secrets in a black box and ONLY retrieve them if authorized. That’s the basic principle.

We can argue about that all we want, but not today. Just accept it as a REALITY. OK? It’s real. THAT is how the IC deals with the “moving real-time problem”. SAVE it all – sort it out later – LOOK AT IT in an outward-facing way ONLY if authorized.

That’s just the WAY IT IS.

So when we get this story – this NARRATIVE – about the NSA “suddenly” spying on Tucker Carlson – and then we get a story about them releasing information – NAH. It violates two things that I KNOW about an agency which has kept track of me my entire life – FOR GOOD REASONS.

ONE.

The NSA spies on ALL OF US – ALWAYS – ALL THE TIME – EVERYTHING. It’s all saved. There is no NEED to order some special spying on Tucker Carlson. That’s not how it works.

They have all my data. They have all Tucker’s data. It’s a done deal.

The narrative that they “started” spying on him, or even that they spied on him in some special way, is all wrong. It’s bullshit. Whoever came to him was either in on the op to influence Tucker, OR they are a pawn or cut-out in the operation – possibly a true and excellent friend of Tucker – but ANY implication that special spying was done on him is bullshit.

Now the NSA can’t go and deny this, because the TRUTH is untouchable.

Somebody on the other side knows that. An ASSHOLE named Andrew Weissmann.

But we’ll get to him in a minute.

TWO.

NSA does not go around “leaking” stuff, because to do so endangers their mission, their collection, and everything they live for. I’m not saying they don’t care – I’m saying that leaking – the creation of the slightest crack in their “defensive truth” – is not part of the “caring”.

We barely got any information about their HEAD GUY – Admiral Mike Rogers – going to a FISA JUDGE and saying that DOJ and FBI were abusing their data in shocking ways.

THAT is the kind of “leak” that sometimes emerges from NSA. As in, it’s about the NSA.

You know. Like SNOWDEN – a CIA operation.

NSA? They don’t go leaking about journalists. They don’t even leak about ME to counter my ratting out what I know but cannot prove about NSA. They don’t even leak about former NSA whistleblowers.

I’ve been a pain in NSA’s ass my whole life. I’m not going to divulge what they may have done to influence me, but one thing I can tell you is that they did not leak JACK. ZERO. NADA.

SILENCE IS THEIR PRIMARY WEAPON.

SO.

I believe that Tucker is the victim of a multi-pronged discreditation operation as part of a SET-UP to a media-government hit job. I think that Tucker did the EXACT right thing going public with us. I think that NSA data about him WAS and IS going to be used in a hit job on him. But this is NOT an NSA “leak”. Its ABUSE of NSA data.

It’s somebody ELSE doing the leaking.

I think that Tucker was UNMASKED exactly like Trump was – by rogue elements in DOJ, FBI, and/or the Biden administration. I think somebody OTHER that NSA illicitly unmasked and grabbed his *NSA* data, and BLAMECASTED to NSA. Knowing full well – I am sure – that NSA would be stuck holding the bag, with a stupid response full of careful denials that look guilty as hell, and even more, that NSA will be too professional to “respond in kind”.

Now at first, I was just “pretty sure” of the above. I didn’t have what I though was “proof”.

NOT UNTIL TODAY.

Just watch this video, and who is in it.

ANDREW WEISSMANN. The sack of shit behind the MUELLER HOAX.

LINK: https://rumble.com/vjo527-msnbc-says-tucker-is-un-american-for-complaining-about-being-spied-on.html?mref=23gga&

There are very few people who CAN and WILL call out a dirty prosecutor like Andrew Weissmann for being the slimeball that he is, but The Last Refuge is one of them, and that is why that blog has been relentlessly marginalized by media assets of DOJ and FBI. If there is one thing I learned from Sundance, it is the centrality of Andrew Weissmann to the corruption in Washington – and in particular the DOJ and FBI.

Weissmann is HOLDER-LEVEL.

As soon as I saw WEISSMANN in this thing, I knew what this was – the SAME as when DOJ and FBI went after Trump.

This is MORE DOJ / FBI hoaxing and cover-up.

This is a PHONY INTEL WRAP-UP SMEAR – just like what they did to Trump. And they’re doubling the hit job by using NSA for cover.

Andrew Weissmann should be in PRISON – not out on the street talking to fake conservative Nicollle Walllace. Indeed, he WOULD be in prison, if there was real justice in Washington.

But there is not.

I’m sorry, to all you hopeful people, but I’m not waiting for Durham to do anything here.

But now we know.

Weissmann is back, and like DEMON, he will be causing trouble. THIS is just the beginning.

Unless, of course, somebody decides to actually do their job in Washington.

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ANDREW WEISSMANN LOVES A FACADE – IT’S HOW TO SPOT HIM AT WORK

OATHBREAKERS

Wheatie just put up a GREAT tune called “Oathkeeper” – have a listen….

This will GET YOU IN THE MOOD.

This made me remember the patriotic OATHKEEPERS….. many of whom are languishing in prison.

…..who were FOOLED, SET UP, and ENTRAPPED by “you know who”.

Otherwise known as…..

And that got me to thinking.

It’s time to stop simply (which even only a few have been doing) defending the Oathkeepers.

It’s time to put the heat on the OATHBREAKERS.



Yeah, there was a real beauty.

He fooled us for a while, but eventually we realized the truth.


Barr Lied, Justice Died

I used to think radical scoundrel Eric Holder was the most criminal Attorney General this nation ever had, but now I believe that honor goes to the man who single-handedly erased Donald Trump’s second term – William Barr. ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And I want you all …


It’s time to start going after the bad guys. No – not with VIOLENCE. WITH THE SWORDS OF TRUTH.

To not just CHEER ON Trump, but to FOLLOW HIS LEAD.

To create an ENVIRONMENT of YEARNING FOR JUSTICE that will make it THINKABLE.

SO – with this in mind…..

What I want to do now is collect the MUG SHOTS of all who, upon reflection, are the OATHBREAKERS deserving of JUSTICE – when we get it back someday.

Just a simple collection, to be REMEMBERED when JUSTICE is finally POSSIBLE.

Do you believe in justice? Do you believe it will come?

I will add the first.

With reference to another.

Add your OATHBREAKERS in the comments.

Please add an APPROPRIATE MUG SHOT.

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