Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181228

This SPECIAL FINAL WEEKEND OF 2018 FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.


Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU


People – this is very important….

W

The plan is so big, that all of this fits into it.
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Gudthots

And these things we write to you, that you may rejoice, and your joy may be full.
And this is the declaration which we have heard from him, and declare unto you: That God is light, and in him there is no darkness.
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth.
But if we walk in the light, as he also is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1 John 1:4-7

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Gudthots

Yesterday was Saint John’s Feast Day. 🙂

Gudthots

Huh, the version I copied from the BibleGateway.com seems to be missing something. Other translations say, “do not practice the truth” or “do not live out the truth.” It bothers me a little to publish something that seems to omit an important word like that.

Tonawanda

John 3:21 is translated variously, but one version is:
“But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God”
“Does what is true” is an abstract but beautiful and profound idea from the gospel. The letter seems have the same formulation.

singularZoe

Agree, TTT. I didn’t catch that as not awake yet, not a very good excuse, though. Just saw the familiar beautiful and comforting words. I do like “King James Bible online” but that’s me. Thanks for posting.

Cuppa Covfefe

A while back BibleGateway went from the KJV being their defaut version to the NIV. Then the NIV got “modernized” and “made more relevant”, which translates to watered-down and PC. That could be the reason for the different/missing words.
I read a while back that the NIV is missing around 16K words (a few chapters’ worth) as compared to the KJV and many older translations. Seems they didn’t follow what Revelation 22:18-19 says…

singularZoe

you are right about niv and kjv. Translations like kjv and nasv are word for word translations, whereas niv, which is a poor translation, is “thought for thought.”

singularZoe

Amen. Love the gospel of John, also his letters and the Revelation.

Sylvia Avery

I don’t know what I’m doing here, but I’m trying to post a meme.

Sylvia Avery
Pat Frederick

AWESOME!! i love this one!

Sylvia Avery

I know, right? Our FLOTUS as superhero!

Pat Frederick

i bet her boots would be fabulous!

Sylvia Avery

Oh yeah!
I just love this meme. The Left loves to characterize her as a dumb, desperate victim of PDJT’s bullying. So insulting. She is such a strong, independent woman. She is the kind of woman they should be idealizing.
So having her meme’d as Wonder Woman is just the best! Bracelets, lasso, the whole thing is just perfect!

Pat Frederick

OMG–just saw a yahoo headline…Mooch has replaced Hill as the “most admired woman…” on what planet is she even a real woman…ohhh sorry…man, my claws are out this morning…

Sylvia Avery

I just saw that, too! It is according to a Gallup poll. I nearly spewed my cornflakes. Seriously. Moochelle? Most admired? The Red Diaper First “Lady?” Oh, puhLEEZE.
The idea that apparently there are two women we can admire: Cankles or Moochelle. Blech. Who are we missing? Oh, I know, Auntie Maxine.

Pat Frederick

I want DNA testing on Mooch first… it’s just like them to throw “her” in with females to compete…then later we will find out the real story

Sylvia Avery

I just wish she would go away. People keep talking about her running for Prez. Maybe her and Oprah on a ticket together. Pffffttttt……

Pat Frederick

you know what would be cool? a debate between Mooch and Oprah vs Diamond and Silk!!!
i don’t have to say let the best women win, cuz we all know it’d be Diamond and Silk!

Sylvia Avery

Oh yeah, I’d bet on Diamond and Silk any day of the week!

Cuppa Covfefe

Mooch… “Swamp Thing” (whatever planet that was…) (Dagobah 🙂 ???? ) yo-yo-yo-yo Yoooodaaaa….

michaelh

The Left loves gaslighting. Constant narrative engineering, controlling reality, crazy-making, brainwashing, groupthink, lies. They hate FLOTUS because she singlehandedly annihilates their false narrative and exposes their sick prejudices and vile bigotry for what it is.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Now if someone will just put a shovel handle into my Sylvia The Shovel Wielding Avenger pic….

Sylvia Avery

Molly Pitcher

A thread with a lot of pix of this dirtbag. Not just a illegal..an illegal full on gang member. I can’t believe that Pelosi, Schumer, Leiu and all of the uniparty STILL keep defending these invaders.

Sylvia Avery

How on earth anyone could find this sympathetic and want to defend these creeps I simply do not understand.

Pat Frederick

they have to pretend NOT TO KNOW these scum are coming in with the poor, desperate migrant women and children.

TheseTruths

The Left has one agenda: to multiculturalize the U.S. to the point that it no longer exists, for the sake of NWO globalism. Illegal immigration is the perfect vehicle for destroying America. It brings crime, fear, drugs, disease, illegal voting, and destruction of our history and culture.
So in my opinion, it is not about defending criminals like that guy, but it is something just as bad. The Left doesn’t care how many of those criminals get in or how much murder and mayhem result as long as their goals are being accomplished. Those whose lives have been destroyed are just collateral damage. Leftists won’t say it, but they see it as war. That’s why we have to fight this as a war, and not try to compromise or work together, because they cannot be trusted.

judyw

Sylvia, the Catholic Church Annulment process provided me the opportunity to see up close and personal how an 11 year marriage following a 6 year relationship was built on an apparent solid foundation with one little well covered secret “big lie” that was not discovered until going through my divorce. My answers to questions provided came from deep inside me and outside that process would likely never have occurred to me to even ask because the basis of the questions were “new territory” outside my realm of personal experience or family upbringing.
I see the similarities of this “big lie” that unfolded into the truth being undeniably revealed to all the absolutely crazy things we read daily about the sympathetic attitude toward pure evil.
Q says those who have the most to lose scream the loudest and it is proving true. My base understanding through literally hundreds of hours of therapy, reading everything I could get my hands on to understand pure evil, spiritual direction from Priests serving other than Catholic Churches but fully understanding those Catholic Priests committed to covering for powerful families whose donations were appreciated and would likely be diminished with public disclosure is this: “first you lie to yourself until you believe the lie you’ve told to be the absolute truth”.
Here’s a good short overview: “Our memories are not as reliable as we like to think. Every time you imagine a scene in a particular way, it strengthens the brain’s “wiring” that records the scene. It becomes more real to you, indistinguishable from a memory of something that actually happened.”
Read More:
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-trick-yourself-into-strongly-believing-a-lie-youve-told-is-the-honest-truth

Greg Cox

At the root, it’s the Father of Lies, Satan, whom people allow themselves to be tricked and deceived by.

judyw

Absolutely, Greg and some of us evidently need to be shocked to our core to ever see that deep as many of the lies are injected deep and covered with very public conversations/speculations that move quietly into the background. Q speaks so gently to those who are tiptoeing into some unchartered waters “Knowledge will be revealed but the choice to know will ultimately be yours”…(likely not the exact words)

singularZoe

Wow, Judy, I think you are a very brave and a very wise woman.

judyw

Thanks, but I’m really just incredibly curious to find truth wherever it leads me and processing it so that others also benefit which sometimes requires the help of those who already have the capacity to understand it.

sobriquet3

Uh oh! get out the yellow vests. Scott is serious.

Sylvia Avery

I may have to go buy one to keep on hand. The time may come.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

I have been thinking the same thing. Be prepared.

Pat Frederick

maybe we should get our vests in red, white, and blue…find an American company to mass produce them here. we could sell MILLIONS

Sylvia Avery

Stuff shouldn’t shock me any more, and yet occasionally it does. FTA:
“The FBI this year has turned away a record number of cases of illegal immigrants trying to buy guns, according to a new report of background checks.
The National Instant Criminal Background Check System said that it rejected 7,836,600 planned purchases from “illegal/unlawful alien” as of 2018. And that was at the end of November. Christmas purchases of guns are typically high and were not included.
That number has been increasing in recent years.
Illegal immigrants rank at the top of those on the FBI’s “prohibited category.” Chart follows.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/fbi-record-number-of-illegal-immigrants-tried-to-buy-guns

Pat Frederick

if they can be identified and denied as illegals–why are they not deported???

Pat Frederick

this story has been niggling at the back of my mind and I just realized why. Aren’t we gullible citizens supposed to believe that there are only like 11-14 million illegals in the country? so, if the “other” 6 million are children and clearly too young to attempt to purchase a gun, that means EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL tried to buy a gun. doesn’t add up does it? gee, how the heck MANY of them are in this country???? Stop lying about the real number!

Sylvia Avery

If we knew the real number I’m not sure we could handle the knowledge. (Excellent thinking, by the way.)

Pat Frederick

well i got to thinking about all the illegals voting–gees it there’s 30 million of them here –and they vote–that would be disastrous! I think that’s one of the real reasons politicians try to hide the actual number. every single illegal vote waters down mine or displaces it entirely. I am entitled to vote, they aren’t!
just frosts my cookies!!!

tessa50

We already know there are many more than reported. Deport them all. Legal immigration only.

Sylvia Avery

No arguments here! I’d be thrilled if all illegals were deported.

tessa50

🙂

Sylvia Avery

Remember when PDJT was running and he said they all had to go. Sorry folks, they gotta go. We’ll build a big, beautiful door in that wall and bring back the ones we want….
Sweetest darned words I’ve ever heard a politician utter.

tessa50

True, but now I see the hundreds at a time being dropped off in Texas. Released to go wherever they wish. It seems to never end no matter who is President. Discouraging, to say the least. He promised they would never set foot in America. They have and are still doing so. The stories read that there are not enough tents to house the ones who do make it in. Well guess what? We have a border. Take them there make them cross and say goodbye. I have really had it with this crap. If he doesn’t stand strong on this now, I truly believe that our country as we know it is lost.

wheatietoo

Matt Gaetz is a fighter.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

I honestly don’t understand why we cannot entice the transit countries — i.e. Mexico — to do more with this. Mexico would not accept these people if they were trying to become Mexican citizens; why do they allow them through so that they can invade us. These are not the actions of a friend.

singularZoe

Great plan, Wolfmoon.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And of course Mexico too for facilitating their movement.
The problem would be finding 60,000 Americans willing to live in malarial shitholes.

PeteC

What if we housed our prison population down there—the ones convicted of serious crimes???

tessa50

I totally disagree with that. I don’t want our military being sent into harm’s way for those countries. Our military can defend our own borders. I don’t want to fix those countries. That is their problem. Stop the aid going there because it certainly isn’t going to the people who need it anyway, and make the UN send all their troops, minus ours to do whatever, that won’t work anyway. Not one American soldier down there dying for nothing. Period. Full Stop.

tessa50

I will add, we have a country. Stay here and protect it. I am sick of this crap. Stop illegals, don’t let them in by whatever means necessary, and no more aid to South American countries. Deport all here that are illegal and be done with it.

wheatietoo

There is a machine on this video that looks like it would be great to use on building the Wall:
The “Chain Trencher”.
It’s the first one on the video:
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The Chain Trencher could make short work of digging a trench for burying the bottom of the wall in concrete.

Pat Frederick

I got as far as “…for burying…” and I thought hmmm Sylvia’s finally put her shovel to work taking out the Deep State!

Pat Frederick

wow! that sounds big!

Sylvia Avery

https://spectator.org/trump-the-best-president-i-didnt-vote-for/
In my world, this is a feel good story! A conservative describes how he didn’t vote for PDJT (fool) and how he has watched and been surprised and delighted by what a great President Our Man in the WH has been.
I enjoyed it, and enjoyed feeling slightly superior to the author. I may not have been smart enough to jump on the T Train at the escalator, but at least I discovered the truth way sooner than the dude who wrote this article.

Sylvia Avery

I didn’t know that, Wolf. I was interested in Fiorina but I hardly ever find anyone else who liked her. I liked Carson a lot, thought Rubio might be the best of the lot (until Candidate Trump made him look like a callow youth dressing up in his dad’s suit and overcoat at which point I was unable to take him seriously again), thought Cruz was the likely winner and was prepared to stand behind him despite feeling unhappy about it and really doubtful he could win.
I reluctantly came to support PDJT when it was him or the Hildabeast at which point there simply was no choice.
But the process was more involved and more spiritual. I kept learning about PDJT and seeing things that seemed really significant. The Carson on the sidelines moment at the debate, the way he answered Megyn Kelly back about her stupid women question (“Only Rosie”) and of course he dared to talk about immigration and the Wall.
I never thought he was a viable candidate so I kept looking elsewhere. And I kept praying. And I kept getting the answer “imperfect vessel” and along with a litany of Biblical characters like Moses, King David, so on and so forth. I was really quite grumpy and out of sorts with God over it because I thought somehow I knew better and Donald Trump was just IMPOSSIBLE as a candidate.
Finally, after exhausting myself, I said “Okay, God, if that’s who it is I’m supposed to vote for, I surrender. But couldn’t you have sent us someone a little more holy?” I do believe God has QUITE the sense of humor. And how much patience He must have to put up with me.

Pat Frederick

i never voted before Donald Trump. My impression was politicians were all the same…promise anything to get elected, do what you want after you’re in.
the first moment I heard that straight talking man, I sat up and took notice…I like what I heard and what I didn’t hear.
I registered…got hubby to register…and we voted for Donald Trump…hate to brag, but I am batting 1000 when it comes to Presidents!

Sylvia Avery

Well, good for you! You picked a great time to dive in and chose a great candidate!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The Left has been in an “Oh, Shit, we finally have a president who keeps his promises” mode for, oh, about 23 months now.

rayzorbak

Donald Trump is NOT a “politician”….. He is a Self-made WEALTHY Businessman. He is NOT owned by the Lobbyists or special (ed) interest groups. Not owing to anyone but us PATRIOTS.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well…he ran for office. That made him a politician. He actually calls himself a politician at rallies, now.
What he isn’t is a career politician, whose sole interest is in holding office for the rest of his life. That, and the fact that he didn’t need money or support from the usual “interest groups”, made him a very different politician. One who ran out of a genuine desire to do what’s best for the only interest group that SHOULD matter: America, and who didn’t lose sight of that on his way up the ladder (because he started at the top).
In fact, he is easily earning a label given to very few politicians: statesman.

Pat Frederick

oooh statesman–sounds way more noble than politician!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Indeed it does.

Tonawanda

Totally off topic, but Ayn Rand may be the intermediate reason there is any hope whatsoever for saving America at this point. She provided the intellectual framework for millions of people to think outside the communist box.
Lol … oh, oh … now I realize you meant a different Rand. Oh well.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, he had me going too for a few seconds.
“Randite” does generally mean “follower of Ayn Rand” although they prefer the label “Objectivists” or even “students of Objectivism.”

Cuppa Covfefe

Randite? Is that another one that Tom Lehrer missed?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If you mean in “National Brotherhood Week,” yes.

Cuppa Covfefe

I was thinking his “Gilbert-and-Sullivan-esque” Elements song, but yes…
And everyone hates the…
There’s some great U2bes of Tom Lehrer giving a concert in Denmark in the early 1960s, with everyone in their enormously thick-black-plastic-rimmed glasses and e-leet look… But, to their credit, they seemed to understand Lehrer’s side-comments (while singing) and his hilarious intros…
Alma, tell us!
All modern women are jealous.
Which of your magical wands
Got you Gustav and Walter and Franz?
(Mahler, Gropius, and Werfel)…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The Alma song made no sense to me, but then I was a preschooler when Lehrer was originally a thing. My exposure came from my parents playing some of the records when I was a (literate) kid when the gave parties, many years later.
Elements is classic (and just so you know, when he made it the last element of which the news had come to Hahavahd was 102: Mendelevium. Since then 16 more have been “discahvahd.”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m probably closer to being an Objectivist than anything else you can find reasonably well defined “out there” in public. That being said, I’m not there a hundred percent by any means. I can pretty much get along with them, though…but for the most part they cannot stand PDJT. I think in many cases this is an error of knowledge on their part.

singularZoe

I went through a somewhat similar process before I got to Trump, except never liked or trusted Kasich, and all of them with the exception of Rand I believe to be deep state. Fiorina attracted me until I realized how liberal she really was. So glad I came to realize about our lion.

rayzorbak

I myself was rooting for DJT to run against the Obungler in 2012 …..
When he publisized the whole Obungler Fake, Phoney Birth Certificate(s).
Been with him since that time.

NYGuy54

I was a Trump fan from the beginning.
Actually that day, June 16, 2015, I was watching his press conference sitting next to my late father. My Dad was a Roosevelt Democrat. Afterwards, my father, god bless his soul, turned to me and said, “I’m voting fro him.” Why Dad? “This guy is a billionaire. He has everything to lose so he must be doing this because he loves this country. Make sure you take me to go vote for him.”
He became transfixed with Trump. Watched everything he could. “Sssshh don’t tell your mother, I love this guy.” So we watched together. As soon as my mother came over, the channel would get changed. But I knew my dad wanted to see him elected.
Dad’s health declined. We never made it to the rpimary. He passed away before it happened. So I voted in his honor. I’ll be darned if I ever give on on President Trump. My father would be so proud.

NYGuy54

jeez, lots of typos..I’m sorry….

Pat Frederick

it was a wonderful story NYGuy!

NYGuy54

thanks.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

jeez, lots of typos..I’m sorry….

i lkide it aynwya.

NYGuy54

lol

MysticRose80

Beautiful story. Yes, your father would indeed be proud 🙂.

NYGuy54

so now you know where all this came from

gingersmom2009

I was also on board from the jump. I was born in Brooklyn, then moved to Queens where my home was less than a mile from Wareham Place/Midland Parkway. Donald Trump is a street fighter from Queens. His kids are Manhattan — not him. He’s always been the outsider.

NYGuy54

you’re a New Yorker!

NYGuy54

Yep…same

singularZoe

Ed and Wolfmoon, just love learning these little tidbits about people here. It makes me feel a kind of kinship or qinship.

singularZoe

So qte.

MysticRose80

I wavered between Rand and Cruz before I became pro-Trump. Prior to that, I couldn’t stand Trump. How times have changed. Never thought I would become such a fierce supporter of Trump.

gingersmom2009

No disrespect, but after that teddy bear stunt at the border with Glenn Beck, how could you even consider Ted Cruz?

MysticRose80

Honestly? At the time, I was not aware of Cruz’s shenanigans. Research helped me see the light……plus, I was disgusted by that stunt he pulled on Carson (who I deeply admire and respect).

tessa50

Cruz was there because of the children, hopelessly caught up in their parent’s crime. I can’t fault him for that even thought the media made a field day of it. I never pay attention to Glenn Beck.

TheseTruths

In my opinion, neither Rand nor Cruz could have beaten Hillary. Then-candidate Trump was able to draw independents, union workers, and some staunchly Democrat constituencies and had more of a populist appeal. Cruz is liked by cerebral conservatives but does not come across as a man of the people like Trump does.

rayzorbak

NOBODY but Trump would have or Could have beaten Hitlery…..
The Fix was In. All was setup….. GOD intervened.

tessa50

I agree that Cruz wouldn’t have defeated Clinton. Up front, I love Cruz. I understand many don’t. He has supported Trump even though it was a nasty little run for the nomination. He does love this country and our Constitution.

rayzorbak

In my opinion, and through lots of research….. I came to the conclusion that both Rubio and Cruz are NOT “Natural Born Citizens” (No matter what Mark Levin says). But then again, Obungler is not a “Natural Born Citizen” either. We are FAR from what the “Founders” had in mind.

gingersmom2009

Yes, I remember, way back, reading something that included a listing of people who voted in the town (in Canada) where Cruz and his parents were living. So unless they allowed non-citizens to vote, Ted isn’t natural born. His parents’ entire story is a mystery.

gingersmom2009

Or it might have been pre-Ted, but both parents’ names were on the list. Seems like light years ago that I read it. 😀

TheseTruths

I agree about natural born citizenship, and yes, despite what Levin says. I lost the ounce of respect that remained for him, during the eleciton. I also agree that no one but Trump could have beaten Hillary. Our prayers were answered.

Roberta

Indeed! Thank you. It really doesn’t seem that difficult, does it? And so clear that these united states of America can be easily destroyed by inserting foreign agents in the White House that masquerade as natural born citizens. It might take a generation, but once you have the first “elected,” they thought the barrier would be torn down and had several in place (both parties, notice) to carry one.
Sheesh! sometimes we are REALLY stoopid.

judyw

WM, I was very open to letting the primary process eliminate some of my known “lightweight wannabee’s” before I began serious research on this person I knew little about and NEVER watched on TV. That research was prompted totally by SD’s strong support of candidate DJT and because of my respect for his prior well researched positions. I appreciate that nudge from SD that led me to finding the real person behind the media narrative.

Roberta

My thanks to SD, as well. I was a “no” on ALL the other candidates.
From the first time I heard TC speak my “spidey sense” told me he was not to be trusted and couldn’t be president. One would have thought I would be a Rand proponent given my commitment to his father 2007-2012, but after those campaigns my spidey sense kicked in strongly against Rand as a presidential candidate. I went to hear him early on…he sounded good. Spidey sense needle did not budge an inch. 🙂

singularZoe

Like the Pauls very much except think they are extremely naïve about Islam, which for me spells “danger.” As long as they stay on the domestic side of things, I think they’re great.

CM in TN

I was for Rand Paul at the beginning of the race. Didn’t like/trust any of the others. I remember he,(Paul), announced his campaign and then hardly heard anything from him. Watched President Trump’s announcement out of curiosity. The escalator and that speech hooked me then. Still like Sen. Paul and the others, not so much…well Sec. Carson and Sec. Perry are ok too.

Sylvia Avery

I liked some things about Rand Paul, too. It’s funny, looking back, how much I have “evolved” politically from back then.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There were and still are some good things about Rand Paul, and it seems like he’s learning how to work with Trump.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Even Mr Cruz will be of benefit from time to time.
Before I understood Trump (and to be fair, before I understood Cruz), I thought Cruz to be the best of the alternatives.

MysticRose80

My dream was to have Paul as VP, but the tag team works quite fine with me.

Sylvia Avery

Does anyone know, were these extra measures taken because AF1 was identified by the “planefag” in England and the destination made public while they were enroute?
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1078047756562952192

wheatietoo

Planefag gave the destination?
I didn’t know that.
How did they know the destination?
To answer your question, Syl…yeah, I would say it’s a good possibility that was the reason for the blackout measures.

Sylvia Avery

Okay, as usual I didn’t pay close attention as the details of this are in my experience a bit dry. But what I think I read was that either the guy who ID’d the plane or someone in his group that he was communicating with were able to guess at the approximate destination of the plane based on data like the direction of flight or whatever and concluded it was going to the ME or Iraq, whichever. But I give my standard disavowal–I wouldn’t swear to it!

wheatietoo

Been reading about it…
The Planefag took a picture of AF1 with his telephoto lens and posted it online.
It went viral.
There was widespread speculation about Where AF1 was headed…and most people figured “somewhere in the Mideast”.
Iraq was one of the guesses, but it apparently seemed the most likely.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks Wheatie. You have such a nice way of boiling lots of bits of dull detail down to the heart of the matter and making it comprehensible.

wheatietoo

churchmouse
Pat Frederick

Lindsay Graham is going to be the new Chair of the Judiciary isn’t he? I hope the same Lindsay who was so commanding at the Kavanugh hearings shows up and rips Dianne a new one.

wheatietoo

Heheh.
Last night’s ConEd lightshow happened in Occasional-Cortex’s district.
https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1078492709533306880
.
She wants to get rid of all fossil fuels.
Someone should ask her: What do power plants use to create electricity?

Sylvia Avery

Wheatie, if OC was asked that, her brain shorting out would rival the light show tonight at ConEd.

Pat Frederick

really? i don’t think it could generate that much spark –if brains were dynamite, she wouldn’t have enough to blow her nose…

GA/FL

Bravo, Pat!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, it wouldn’t short her brain out, because she has so little fundamental understanding of the issue, she probably just thinks it’s all magic and why can’t we just do it this way because we want to?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A battery grid?
Yet another clueless wonder who does NOT understand that batteries do not generate energy, they store energy created by something else.
This is the same issue that hydrogen (as a fuel) has. Because it does not exist on earth in free form, it must first be created by breaking apart some molecule (generally water), and the breaking apart takes as much energy as it will release when it’s burned. Actually, because no process is perfectly efficient (far from it!) it takes MORE energy to produce hydrogen than you will get from burning it or using it in a fuel cell. Hydrogen is essentially a battery.

Pat Frederick

Good Morning Mr Science!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The sad thing is, Michiu Kaku, got roped into an ad campaign for hydrogen, touting it as a wonderful fuel because it was the most common thing in the universe (which it is–75% of the non-dark matter in the universe by weight is hydrogen). The problem is, very little of the Earth is hydrogen, and it’s all basically already “burned.”
Now, if he was talking *fusion* that would be another thing, but that is 50 years away (and always has been), AND it realistically could only use deuterium, a rather uncommon…wait for it…isotope of hydrogen. In the case of fusion, the energy release would more than overcome the effort to extract deuterium from water.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That first sentence should have read “The sad thing is, Michiu Kaku, who is a real scientist, got roped…”
Dr. Kaku appeared many times on The Universe and has written a number of books for a popular audience.

rayzorbak

I wish we had Nicola Teslas research stuff available to the public…..
He was on the trail of “Free Energy before Edison ruined him.
Seems like I heard that a relative of DJT has something to do with this issue?

TheseTruths

It’s one thing to not know something and to research it or ask someone knowledgeable; it’s another to speak without realizing how little you know or how you can be proven wrong. I think OC is being used to appeal to voters just like her. It’s all about emotion; no brain cells are required.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

She certainly does not exceed requirements, then.

Roberta

THIS! Same question to ask all the virtue signalers who think they use “emissions free” automobiles. What’s the energy source for 1) the manufacture of your “Pius,” etc., and 2) what is the source of the electricity used to charge your “clean” machine?
Logical thinking, logical thinking.

wheatietoo

Good Question:

Sylvia Avery

Spectacular!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You left out the audio of me howling at them.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

More seriously, when was this taken and by which spacecraft?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I found it:

Video captured of Jupiter, Io and Europa during Cassini’s flyby.
by u/mtimetraveller in space

Cassini flying by on its way to Saturn took it, and that’s logical. One thing that bothered me about it (and made me suspect it was an animation) was that the outer moon is shown overtaking the inner moon (watch it and you’ll see the faster moon covering the slower one, which means it’s closer, which means its farther from Jupiter, which means–tilt! Things in outer orbits don’t move faster than things in inner orbits!)
This could only happen if the point of view is itself moving quite rapidly, and in the “wrong” direction, and Cassini was flying by Jupiter–it was flying by Jupiter at quite a bit more than escape velocity.
(I’d better explain what the “wrong” direction is. As seen from over the north pole, almost everything in the solar system turns counter clockwise. From over Jupiter’s north pole, Jupiter rotates counter clockwise, and most of its moons, including these two, go around counter clockwise. Some of the outermost tiny little moons that are just dots in photographs move clockwise, making astronomers suspect they’re captured asteroids rather than moons that were with Jupiter from the beginning. This applies to Earth and Earth’s moon, too, and also the planets going around the sun. Clockwise motion is odd when seen and demands explanation.)
The problem is, Cassini approached Jupiter, and passed it, behind Jupiter’s orbital motion–looking at it from over the Sun’s north pole, it passed a bit clockwise of Jupiter, i.e., behind it as Jupiter orbited the Sun. (That’s necessary for the “slingshot” effect to work.) So I can’t reconcile Cassini passing Jupiter on the side it did and seeing the outer moon overtake the inner moon, it should have passed the inner moon with both of them going backwards from that viewpoint. Unless, of course the video is being played backwards (or with south at top) in order to make the moons look like they’re going in the right direction.
Gotta do some more research.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Aaaw, geez.
It’s a composite. The moons’ images are real, the image of Jupiter is real…the motion was faked.
Reading the comments, a number of people caught on to the outer moon (Europa) overtaking the inner moon (Io) and the creator of the video acknowledged the issue.

Molly Pitcher

Sylvia Avery

Yeah, this is entirely too convenient. NOT a coincidence. I don’t know what it is, however. But it isn’t good, that’s obvious.

Sylvia Avery

And keep our eyes peeled, as my dad used to say.

Cuppa Covfefe

Practice runs?

Sylvia Avery

I can’t help but wonder.

wheatietoo

You’d think there would’ve been an EMP generated from that transformer blowing, in NYC.
We live near a large rural transformer yard.
So we are mindful of the threat of an EMP being generated, if lightning strikes or something, were to cause one of those transformers to blow.
From the size of the ‘lightshow’ and the buzzing sound from the arcing…it’s strange that there wasn’t one.

Cuppa Covfefe

Along with the transformers are many, MANY suppression devices. City-sized circuit breakers, capacitors, and other equipment just for those situations. And there has been a project going (thanks to VSGPDJT) to “harden” our infractructure. “Chiefio”, among others, has written about it ( chiefio.wordpress.com ).
Somehow I think Kalifornistan might be less resilient…
Over here in “beautiful downtown Deutschland” there have been “potential terrorists” (aka known Salafist Islamists) seen taking photos and descriptions of airports and other infrastructure. Probably not for their science classes… Seems like TPTB care about everyone EXCEPT their constituents, i.e. their TRUE employer…

churchmouse

The fake ‘Michael Cohen was in Prague’ story appeared again yesterday in a McClatchy report.
SD thinks they must have relied on the fake dossier.
The Daily Mail has an article on it positing that maybe Michael Cohen’s phone was messed with remotely (I’m using technical terms here!) to give the impression he was in Prague when he wasn’t. And, yes, we all remember another different Michael Cohen was in Prague at that time, too.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6533445/New-claim-Michael-Cohens-phone-Prague-time-meeting-described-Trump-dossier.html
‘It’s relatively easy to change the International Mobile Equipment Identity number of an Apple or Android phone; that raises the possibility that someone could have ‘cloned’ his phone and switched it on somewhere in order to simulate him being there …’

Pat Frederick

I could never survive in your world Wolf!

judyw

Me, either Pat and is exactly why my prayers are with him and his family daily!

Cuppa Covfefe

Huawei would anyone want to do a thing like that? 🙂
(OK, I know, wrong vendor…).
That’s why I HATE the IoT and the mad rush to have everything set up to “phone home” and get automatic updates, etc. (the “I just want it to work” syndrome – too much trougle to take an actice role in device upkeep/maintenance/monitoring). Makes MITM attacks/spoofing/watching ever so much easier…
Latest are “smart” meters, which use WiFi, and either “select” some poor sod’s meter as a sort of hub, or have multi-casting torrents flying about in some weak nod to redundancy… And don’t get me going on refrigerator, furnace(!), and webcam hacks… Seems the folks designing all these whiz bang gadgets didn’t have the comms background to realize what happens when the whole world can listen in (there are tools to go out and look for insecure webcams, for instance)… WiFi dearest – no thanks…

Cuppa Covfefe

Or worse (remember the old commercial) “How about a nice Huawei-an punch???” 🙂

TheseTruths

I hope there will still be “dumb” appliances when I need to replace something.

pgroup

There certainly are. They are sold in used appliance stores and estate sales.

Gudthots

For the brave that have a way with a soldering tool,
the antenna in your “smart” applicance can be “fixed”
… much in the same way a cat can be “fixed.” 😉

Sylvia Avery

Jason Chaffetz was filling in on Hannity’s TV show tonight. He had a segment with Dan Bongino and another guy named Schoen, an attorneyl, and they were discussing this latest Cohen story. It was interesting.
Cohen, once again, denies he was in Prague. His attorney, Lanny Davis, denies he was in Prague. They made the point that Cohen would now have every reason to leap up and say YES I WAS IN PRAGUE and sell out Donald Trump in exchange for leniency…if he had actually been in Prague. That this hasn’t happened speaks volumes.
So then the question is who is behind this story constantly being pushed out there and what is the purpose of it?

churchmouse

To sow FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) among the American public.
This is a quiet backdoor route (one of many) by which PDJT’s opponents hope to invalidate the 2016 election result.

PeteC

The Cohen in Prague goes to the massive illegal collecting of “702 Inquiries” that took place by the private contractors during the 2016 campaign—which ended up in the Steele dossier pushed by Fusion GPS and FBI/DOJ for the FISA warrants. The problem—in the collection process of illegal information (the 702’s), no one bothered to verify that the Prague Cohen was Trump’s Cohen! It wasn’t!
Remember when NSA Director Mike Rogers discovered that 85% of the 702 Inquiries into the database were illegal in 2016? He goes to Trump Tower on Nov. 17, 2016 to inform President-elect Trump that he was being tapped, and Trump immediately moves the presidential team to New Jersey. This was after Rogers had uncovered all the illegal entries into the database,and shut the “inquiry” operation down.
Rogers found thousands of 702 search inquiries from Nov. 1, 2015 to May 1, 2016, 85% of which were unauthorized and illegal. And on 4/18/16, shuts down access to the FBI/NSA database.
So Cohen gets written into the dossier as proof of Trump’s Russian collusion, but it’s the wrong Michael Cohen!!!

Sylvia Avery

Yes, and yet it keeps getting leaked and recycled in the news every six months or so. Someone is sure anxious to make people think it is true, or something.

Sylvia Avery

I should have amplified my reply. I know what you are saying is true. Anyone with any interest at all has heard about this or could research it, and yet the media keeps dragging it up as if it were true. That seems so very odd to me. I keep wondering have these people no shame? I would be mortified to be lying so relentlessly and publicly knowing that everyone would know I am lying. And you have to wonder at the motive.

Sylvia Avery

I should have amplified my reply. I know what you are saying is true. Anyone with any interest at all has heard about this or could research it, and yet the media keeps dragging it up as if it were true. That seems so very odd to me. I keep wondering have these people no shame? I would be mortified to be lying so relentlessly and publicly knowing that everyone would know I am lying. And you have to wonder at the motive.
AH! And now I have just seen a piece Sundance put up about this. This explains a lot!
https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/19678796/posts/158235

PeteC

They keep regurgitating the lie in hopes that it will suddenly become true! It won’t!
“Like a dog that returns to its vomit, is a fool who repeats his folly.” (Prov. 26:11)

CM in TN

If the Clowns have stuff like their “Umbrage” project, then I am sure they can do that to phones as well…
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/wikileaks-files-cia-umbrage-hacker-secret-spies-explained-countries-donald-trump-russia-a7618661.html

churchmouse

Indeed.

wheatietoo

Remember when Pres Trump mentioned that he thought Airforce One needed a “new paint design”?
And all the Trump-haters chimed in with their objections.
Of course they did.
Well, I would say that Planefag gave our President the perfect ‘reason’ why he should give AF1 a new paint design.comment image
.
He ID’d the plane “due to the distinct colour scheme”.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6533537/How-UK-based-amateur-photographer-revealed-Trumps-not-secret-trip-Iraq.html
They might also think about changing their route for future trips, and exclude any flyovers of the UK…if possible.comment image

churchmouse

Someone in the DM comments rightly points out that AF1 has its landing gear down in the picture.
It is hard to imagine AF1 being so low in the skies in the UK, when only a little more than half the flight had been completed.
There was something weird about this story from the get-go.

wheatietoo

Maybe the DM used a ‘stock photo’ for that pic?
I seriously doubt that AF1 would’ve had its landing gear down.
But yeah…the weird thing to me is, the Altitude.
AF1 would’ve been cruising at probably 35K to 40K feet.
It’s hard to imagine someone taking a picture of a plane up that high…even with a telephoto lens.

churchmouse

‘It’s hard to imagine someone taking a picture of a plane up that high…even with a telephoto lens.’ Exactly.
The same photo is in the BT.com article (I posted the link yesterday), credited to Alan Meloy.
See second photo of the plane (page takes several seconds to load, situation normal) and the credit:
http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/how-an-aviation-nut-in-sheffield-broke-news-of-donald-trumps-secret-iraq-trip-11364320305188
Is it possible a stock photo was posted to Flickr, which would have started the whole story?

wheatietoo

Oh sure, it’s quite possible that they used a stock photo originally.
That photo also shows AF1 in a climb.
Which is why the gear isn’t all the way up yet.
AF1 would’ve been leveled out, cruising, at the altitude it was at when it flew over the UK.

Sylvia Avery

I know, that just seems peculiar doesn’t it? What are we missing? This is an odd story.

churchmouse

Photo not as stated.
Why would the landing gear be down so far away from the destination? Why would the plane be flying so close, even with a telephoto lens?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes.
This is utter bullshit.
I don’t believe it’s even possible to cruise with the gear down; it’s not rated for 400+ knot headwinds. If you were to do it, you’d not be landing normally.

churchmouse

Excellent observation, Steve.
How many people have examined this photo as closely as we here have? Not many.
I will be on the lookout for a follow up, but, somehow, I now reckon I might as well be wishing for pigs to fly.
***If anyone finds anything about this story, please do comment.***

Please

The other fake thing about this picture is the angle of the photo-taker to the plane.
If the plane is at 35K ft., the photo-taker would be looking at the plane’s belly.
Or, if this is truly the angle of the photographer to the plane and the plane is at 35K feet, the phototaker is about 1000 miles away to be able to capture that angle of a plane at 35K feet…quite a zoom lens!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Bingo.

churchmouse

Great observation.

Roberta

Responding up high in this topic, hoping someone will respond. Has anyone here perused 8chan for this topic?
I haven’t learned how to properly search for what I want. Case in point is the Anon post today regarding items lining up to suggest we are close to the trigger point (found it as a repost on JoeM from intheMatrix regarding our naval vessels being home)
so….I am hoping for an answer of sorts re this AF1 matter and also, some tutoring in how to find something at the Q boards. I am known in my little circles as a crackerjack researcher. Ha! This has me stumped.

churchmouse

I, too, was wondering about the ‘weaponised autists’.

Sylvia Avery

I am just gobsmacked that someone could see the plane well enough from the ground to be able to recognize it.

Sylvia Avery

Something smells here, doesn’t it?

Sylvia Avery

You know, THAT makes sense. Sadly.
What a good thing we are praying for PDJT.

churchmouse

I think that is how it is intended to look: ‘PDJT has poor security; see how easy it was for us to track him?’
The photo could well have come from somewhere else, not the plane spotter. Again, the landing gear and the clarity of the image being the principal clues.
It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this story.

Pat Frederick

you guys don’t think this was a veiled threat to POTUS from the British, do you? you know, we can get to you…track you…what have you…so don’t declassify…

churchmouse

I don’t think so.
The photo can (probably) be debunked pretty easily for reasons stated here. It’s not very convincing.

Pat Frederick

that’s my point–you can debunk pretty quickly that this guy DID NOT see the plane from the ground and snap this picture–so then what’s the message? who told him to post what he did?

churchmouse

I think it’s a) an attention-getter for him personally (he apparently did it off his own bat) and b) a broader (fake news) message from the media about notional poor security to lo-fo Trump loathers (in publishing it).
It will be interesting to see if this gets any follow up.
Note, though, that the guy used to be an NHS employee. The NHS is hallowed here, and with some justification, so I don’t think there will be anything critical of him in the British media.

Pat Frederick

thanks for the info and your insight!

churchmouse

You’re most welcome!

andrew1979

this is a fake story unless they landed in england and did it in the light of day. the reason i say is weren’t they in germany at 2am german time? why would the sun he so bright at that time when they flew over england? why would the landing gear be down?
i was hink this is a fake story bcause 1) the media was bamboozled by the trip. 2) what someone said already to show this as an attempt to sow fear and discord and show that trump is making rash decisions in his chaotic state.
and yes agree 100% stay away from the united kingdom. heck the US is dangerous enough.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I believe they landed in Germany at 2AM on the return trip.
I don’t know the timing of the trip outbound, but it would certainly be different. Daytime? I dunno.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

At the very least, using this picture in this circumstance–claiming it’s AF1 cruising over England–is utter bullshit, and I’ll summarize why:
1) The gear is down. Airliners have a maximum airspeed with the gear down, and cruise speed exceeds this (or it wouldn’t be stated). Furthermore, the gear creates drag and would send fuel consumption through the roof, so even if you could cruise with the gear down, you wouldn’t want to.
2) The angle is from the side, which would mean the plane would have to be far away and close to the horizon–by far away I mean tens of miles. You’d never get a clear shot of it at that distance through all the atmospheric ripple and so on. And it doesn’t matter if you have a 40,000 mm zoom lens on your camera (as far as I know such a thing doesn’t exist)–it would be very, very blurry.
3) If the plane were overhead, it’d only be a few miles away with much less turbulent air between you and it…but you’d see the underside of it in the supposed super-zoomed in picture, not the side.
Therefore, this is a close shot of the plane landing or taking off and it’s utterly fraudulent to use this as proof you saw AF1 crossing the UK–unless you caught it LANDING somewhere en route.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Looks like Please, up above, beat me to it.

Roberta

Assumptions seem to be flying regarding this and the comments below sow VERY sharp people inhabit here. There’s more than one AF! plane…..who is to say the pictured route was the POTUS/FLOTUS route on that Christmas night/St Stephen’s (Boxing) Day flight? Military planning at its finest has nuances of which we all remain blessedly unaware.

Roberta

Oops! (“…comments below sow [should be “sow”] VERY sharp…”

churchmouse

Gudthots

I am a big fan of Kevin Hassett!

wheatietoo
wheatietoo

Rudy Giuliani want Mueller investigated for Obstruction of Justice!

Sylvia Avery

Right on, Rudy!

Pat Frederick

was hoping we’d hear from him…he’s been quiet lately…

churchmouse

Sylvia Avery

For some reason, the story about this cop getting killed has tugged on my heartstrings something fierce. I’ve been trying to avert my eyes and yet everywhere I turn there it is.
I don’t know if it is the time of year, the photo of him and his wife and child enjoying their Christmas just a few hours before this happened, or the evil look of the perp’s mugshot. Or maybe it’s because the guy was a legal immigrant who did it right and worked hard to get what he wanted only to have his life stolen by an illegal. Maybe it is the combination of all of those things. But this situation is like a bitter, bitter pill in my gut.

Sylvia Avery

And I heard a statistic that 20 percent of drunk driving arrests made are illegal aliens. TWENTY PERCENT! And that is the reason this cop pulled the killer over– suspected drunk driving.

Gil

I can tell you that, direct knowledge Sylvia, its much higher than that. And hit and runs are usually illegals or their spawn who are unlicensed. Ca dimms made such a big deal about illegals getting a dl they made it kegal. You know, they dont do it. Even though they can, they dont get a dl, insurance, and NEVER register their cars bc they dont care, dont want to spend the money, and jerry brown has made most crimes infractions so there is no punishment.
People here are very bad drivers as it is. Its routine not to stop for stop signs or lights, esp when making a right turn.
Again, no consequences. Its not the cops either. They are told the d.a. wont prosecute and paperwork dt sjw lawmakers is so extensive, 1 arrest will take all shift to write the report.
Im telling EVERYONE, esp Q people who are watching, CA is in real trouble.

Sylvia Avery

The situation in California has made me so angry for years and years. Now, it just mostly makes me sad. I hope we can reclaim it one day. And BTW my state isn’t very far behind you.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I dread the new Colorado legislature and governor taking office. The governor elect was once the congresspuke from Boulder.

Sylvia Avery

Sigh. Poor Colorado. They’ve turned it into California East.
Waving from California North.

churchmouse
churchmouse

Did the lawyer below say this about the above O event? Probably not:

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And furthermore, it wasn’t a MAGA hat, it was his uniform.

churchmouse

Well spotted, Steve!
We all know one president could do no wrong. /s

Pat Frederick

reading OT about Mueller’s motions and absurdity in the Concord case. He wants to preclude Concord from seeing the evidence against them FOREVER even though he has already stated nothing in the evidence is classified.
Furthermore, he made a motion (again SUPER SECRET) that if he doesn’t get his way and discovery continues, he will invoke CIPA (even though no classified info is involved).
All to protect those sources and methods we apparently have to hide—which led the defense to ask:
“Could the manner in which he collected a nude selfie really threaten the national security of the United States?”

Pat Frederick

made me laugh…”our hair plugs”
Hey @chuckschumer, Once and for all……It’s not “his” Wall, It’s our Wall❗️
BTW Chuckles, since tax payers paid for your hair replacement procedures….Are those “OUR” HAIR PLUGS❓🤣😆#BuildTheDamnWall 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/LCWzLXs7K3
— Dash Riprock 🇺🇸 (@PhilMcCrackin44) December 27, 2018

pgroup

I thought I was the only person who knew about Dash Riprock. For those who don’t:

pgroup

And my favorite Dash Riprock tune (an ode to fast lane living)

churchmouse

No more ‘patience, grasshopper’ for me. I agree with Tom Fitton:

Pat Frederick

Yesterday I went to the liquor store and bought a bottle of scotch. Came out and put in my bicycle basket and was about to head home when i thought, hmmm if I fall off the bike, the bottle will break. So i drank the whole bottle of scotch before i left.
Sure enough, on my way home, I fell off my bike 7 times…I must be psychic!

Cuppa Covfefe

Was it “Seagram’s 7” Whiskey? 🙂

Pat Frederick

that’s great! next time i tell that story, it will be!

Pat Frederick

go get ’em Sir!
We will be forced to close the Southern Border entirely if the Obstructionist Democrats do not give us the money to finish the Wall & also change the ridiculous immigration laws that our Country is saddled with. Hard to believe there was a Congress & President who would approve!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 28, 2018

Sylvia Avery

He’s turning up the heat.

churchmouse

churchmouse

churchmouse
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Why limit the complaint to Demo(n)(c)rats?

sunnydaysall

Yep… sorry to say but there are a lot of big government repubs in the mix as well.
But the Bill the Dems voted against was a compromise by Bernie Sanders and both sides voted against it… Dems did not want the repubs to have their bill without their side having a say… But in the end, neither side could agree on what was being offered! By the way, the bill would have been a “win win” for Americans. Go figure.
http://progressivearmy.com/2017/01/12/meet-13-democrats-opposed-lowering-drug-prices/

churchmouse

That’s what I was thinking, but, it’s a start.
Besides, it’s good starting with the Dems because aren’t they the sharing, caring party? /s

churchmouse

Remember the elderly man who had the brick thrown at him during the summer? Here’s what happened:
‘California woman enters no-contest plea for ‘severely injuring’ elderly man ‘with a brick,’ DA’s office says’
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-woman-enters-no-contest-plea-after-elderly-man-was-beaten-with-a-brick-das-office-says
‘A California woman entered a no-contest plea on Thursday after she was arrested over the summer over the assault of an elderly man with a brick, officials announced.
‘Laquisha Jones, 30, entered the plea to one count of elder abuse, infliction of injury, following a July encounter that left the man, Rodolfo Rodriguez, “severely” injured, the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office said in a news release …
‘Jones’ sentencing is scheduled for Feb. 28, and she faces 15 years in state prison, the DA’s office said.’

tessa50

Will wait to see what she is actually sentenced. I hope the full 15 years.

Sylvia Avery

AP is reporting the 8 y/o Guatemalan boy died of the flu per his autopsy. I still haven’t heard what killed the girl, has anyone?

churchmouse

No, I haven’t.

churchmouse

Here is a full statement from Sec. Nielsen on December 26 (excerpted):
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/26/secretary-kirstjen-m-nielsen-statement-passing-eight-year-old-guatemalan-child
“… In just two months into this fiscal year we have seen 68,510 family units and 13,981 unaccompanied children. This is a dramatic change from historical trends and has only become starker in December.
“This changing dynamic is the direct result of obvious draw factors: an immigration system that rewards parents for sending their children across the border alone, a system that prevents parents who bring their children on a dangerous and illegal journey from facing consequences for their actions, an asylum process that is not able to quickly help those who qualify for asylum, a system that encourages fraudulent claims, and a system that encourages bad actors to coach aliens into making frivolous claims. The bottom line is that 9 out 10 asylum claims are rejected by a federal immigration judge.
“Our system has been pushed to a breaking point by those who seek open borders. Smugglers, traffickers, and their own parents put these minors at risk by embarking on the dangerous and arduous journey north. This crisis is exacerbated by the increase in persons who are entering our custody suffering from severe respiratory illnesses or exhibit some other illness upon apprehension. Given the remote locations of their illegal crossing and the lack of resources, it is even more difficult for our personnel to be first responders.
“We at DHS are committed to continuing to assist those in need – in the past year alone the Border Patrol assisted more than 4,300 people in distress along the border – that’s a 20 percent increase in rescues from the year before …
“At my direction, all children in Border Patrol custody have been given a thorough medical screening. Moving forward, all children will receive a more thorough hands on assessment at the earliest possible time post apprehension – whether or not the accompanying adult has asked for one.
“I have also spoken with our partners in Mexico to ask that they begin to investigate the causes of these illnesses on their side of the border and to provide medical assistance in shelters as needed.
“I will be travelling to the border later this week to see first-hand the medical screenings and conditions at Border Patrol stations …
“To be clear, Border Patrol stations were never intended to be longer-term holding facilities for any individuals. Under current law, non-Mexican unaccompanied children cannot be released or removed from the U.S. – they must be turned over to Health and Human Services for placement pending bed space availability. Moreover, family units are almost always released into the interior – in any case, they cannot be held past 21 days.
“I am proud of the lifesaving work the men and women of the Border Patrol do every day, but we do not currently have the resources we need to execute the mission as directed by Congress. To those in Congress who continue to refuse to take action to address the loopholes that cause a flood of humanity to travel north and place children at risk, I once again call on you to do your job, protect vulnerable populations, secure our borders, and provide the men and women of DHS the authorities and resources we need to address this crisis. Please put politics aside, we have common cause – let’s work together to protect family units and unaccompanied alien children. It’s a mission we share.”

Pat Frederick

I agree — the whole you can’t hold children longer than 21 days thing was set up as a ruse to release them (and families) INTO the country– furthering encouraging human trafficking and child abuse imo.

churchmouse

Perfectly said!

Cuppa Covfefe

“Our system has been pushed to a breaking point “
Classic Cloward-Piven…

churchmouse

That’s it: Cloward-Piven.

rayzorbak

I heard it was “Sepsis” in her blood….. didn’t confirm it though.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks! That’s interesting. I could believe that, it is deadly and moves fast.

churchmouse
Gil

They said their goal was to be more like cnn international, skyy news, etc. And the sons were very enbarassed by the pro USA colors and styling of the channel. They sold the entertainment side to focus on news…and they suck at it!

churchmouse

It’s the laugh of the year that they thought they could pull this off.
I know a lot of leftists. Not one of them would give Fox News the time of day.
The laugh is on Fox News management.
Once one loses an audience, it’s tough to recapture it.

Pat Frederick

….The United States looses soooo much money on Trade with Mexico under NAFTA, over 75 Billion Dollars a year (not including Drug Money which would be many times that amount), that I would consider closing the Southern Border a “profit making operation.” We build a Wall or…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 28, 2018

Pat Frederick

…..close the Southern Border. Bring our car industry back into the United States where it belongs. Go back to pre-NAFTA, before so many of our companies and jobs were so foolishly sent to Mexico. Either we build (finish) the Wall or we close the Border……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 28, 2018

Tonawanda

Watching Mulvaney on Fox: he will be great for VSG.
Mulvaney explains what is actually going on about the shutdown in very clear, fact-oriented language.

GA/FL

Mick Mulvaney – The Fighting Irish Businessman!!! Sounds like a Champion Boxer’s name!!!

judyw

I love Mulvaney and especially his confident delivery in the “very clear, fact-oriented language you describe. He knows what he knows and it shows!

Sylvia Avery

So FOX is reporting another Caravan is amassing in Honduras. 15,000 to start, likely to pick up more as they move up through Central America and Mexico.
Now is the time for AMLO to build his wall or whatever he is supposed to do to earn the money we gave him to keep those people out of our country.

Pat Frederick

you know I see these “poor migrants” who just want a better life carrying more expensive and sophisticated phones than I have…how can they afford those? are their service plans free? who the heck are they calling? since they’re all so poor?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I once owned a rental property. All of my tenants had MUCH bigger TVs than I do.

plateaufortrump

My guess would be Carlos Slim:
1. Owner of Telemex (phone monopoly in Mexico)
2. Owner of majority stock of the New York Times
3. Top 5 richest in world
4. Have you heard of Tracfone, Straight Talk, Obama phone?

Pat Frederick

POTUS is on it!
…..Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador are doing nothing for the United States but taking our money. Word is that a new Caravan is forming in Honduras and they are doing nothing about it. We will be cutting off all aid to these 3 countries – taking advantage of U.S. for years!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 28, 2018

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I thought he did that the last time?

Sylvia Avery

Yes, he said that. But then they came up with a new plan to sort of “Marshall Plan” Central America and Mexico with promises of money to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico if they develop their countries and make their peeps stay home (or something like that).
I don’t trust them with money. It is like an endless open pit where we shovel money and see no results. It goes to someone, but not for the purpose we fondly earmark it. We’ll see. I guess PDJT gets to take their money away, again. It will be interesting to see if AMLO reacts differently than the last guy.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well…this time he did not mention Mexico, just the Central American countries.

Sylvia Avery

Yet. AMLO better not mess with him!

Sylvia Avery

I love how he does this. He doesn’t let the grass grow under his feet. Caravan forming? BOOM! He let’s us know he’s aware and he’s trying to counter it.

Molly Pitcher

The propagandists have successfully turned the attention to these kids that died but these caravans are mainly men and teens, male.
If they’re all “escaping” gangs and such…there’s enough combined men folk to rise up and fight for their own country.
I’m so sick of this sham.

churchmouse

Really gross and very sad story of what family guardian and boyfriend to guardian’s young relatives in California. From December 16 (excerpted):
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article50065195.html
Redding police announced late Wednesday that the deaths of two young children found in a storage locker there Sunday occurred somewhere else, and that Salinas police are taking over the lead in the case.
The announcement raises the possibility that the children may have been killed before they left Salinas the day after Thanksgiving, although officials would not confirm that Wednesday night …
‘Police made the announcement after autopsies were performed Wednesday on the 6-year-old boy and 3-year-old girl whose bodies were found in the locker.
‘The news came as family members of the children believed to be the ones found dead lashed out Wednesday at Tami Joy Huntsman, the woman who had custody of the pair, and at Monterey County officials for not doing more to ensure the children were safe.
‘“The System failed my niece and nephew,” Laura Garcia Miranda wrote on a GoFundMe site set up to pay for their funeral expenses and for the care of a 9-year-old sibling found abused and in Huntsman’s care last week …
‘“How would you like it if someone starved you for months and broke your fingers, broke your bones, broke your jaw so you couldn’t eat or talk,” the children’s older brother, Lawni Thompson, 15, wrote on his Facebook page. “(W)ould you like that happening to your kids(?)”
‘The family’s anger spilled out partially over the fact that Child Protective Services workers were called to the Huntsman home in Salinas four times in the last year for reports of general neglect of children there, but no minors were removed from her care …
‘The family lived at a Fremont Street home in Salinas and consisted of Huntsman, 39; two 12-year-old twins she had with a former husband; and three other children she was caring for at the request of their father, Shaun Daniel Tara, who was incarcerated and whose wife, Vivian, died in 2013. Tara is Huntsman’s cousin, family members say.
‘Two of Tara’s children – Shaun Tara, 6, and Delylah Tara, 3 – had been reported missing by Salinas police and were in the custody of Huntsman and her reported boyfriend, Gonzalo Curiel, 17, police said. The badly abused and beaten 9-year-old girl who was with Huntsman when she and Curiel were arrested last week is the older sibling of the two missing children.
‘The case first came to light on Friday, when authorities in Quincy in Plumas County received a call that a young girl living on Main Street there was a victim of neglect. A responding deputy found the 9-year-old locked in a parked SUV and discovered she had multiple fractures, broken teeth, and other injuries and infections, and was severely malnourished, weighing only 40 pounds …
The sheriff also suggested investigators believe Curiel, Huntsman’s 17-year-old boyfriend, may be the primary suspect in the case.
“He was arrested for a reason,” Hagwood said …
‘After their arrest, Plumas County officials received a tip from Monterey County that two other children were unaccounted for. When questioned, Curiel reportedly told authorities about the storage locker in Redding, where the bodies were found Sunday, reportedly stuffed in plastic bins. Redding police have not released the identities or cause of death of the children …
‘Huntsman rented the Redding storage locker on Dec. 4, Laurie Miller, the assistant manager at Enterprise Stor-All, told The Sacramento Bee on Wednesday.
‘Management does not keep spare keys because tenants are required to bring their own lock, Miller said.
‘She wouldn’t comment on whether there was a smell coming from the suspect’s locker when police arrived late Sunday to collect the bodies.’

Pat Frederick

disgusting…the punishment should follow an eye for an eye…

Gil

And he is a minor. Mexican so lets see if he is a dreamer too. Hope he is prosecured as an adult bc if he isnt, he wont get what he deserves. In adult prison, for killing kids, he will get street justice 100 times worse.

Molly Pitcher

SALINAS, Calif. —
The man who tortured, starved, and murdered a toddler and her brother in a Salinas home was sentenced by a judge Wednesday to serve three life sentences in prison.
Gonzalo Curiel was 17 years old when he and his then-girlfriend murdered Shaun Tara, 7, and Delylah Tara, 3.
Curiel’s co-defendant, Tami Huntsman, was also sentenced to spend the rest of her life behind prison bars.
Huntsman’s ex-husband, Chris Criswell, said Huntsman and Curiel both deserved the death penalty.
“(Curiel) had a weird look in his eyes from the beginning. He had a weird blank stare, like he had no soul, like he could kill someone and not think twice,” Criswell told KSBW.

Gil

Good.

churchmouse

Indeed.
Those guys have little sisters and young female cousins.
***Any updates from Salinas area news (Sacramento Bee) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.***

Molly Pitcher

Heartbreaking. Where the hell was these poor kids grandmas, aunts, uncles…anybody???
Huntsman & Curiel should be put down like rabid dogs.

NebraskaFilly

“The news came as family members of the children believed to be the ones found dead lashed out Wednesday at Tami Joy Huntsman, the woman who had custody of the pair, and at Monterey County officials for not doing more to ensure the children were safe.
“The System failed my niece and nephew,” Laura Garcia Miranda wrote on a GoFundMe site set up to pay for their funeral expenses and for the care of a 9-year-old sibling found abused and in Huntsman’s care last week.”
It appears that they tried. Legally, the family’s hands are tied – I have been there, with my daughter regarding my granddaughter. All you can do is report to Sheriff, police, and children’s services.

tessa50

Sheriff’s, police, may be some help with charges. However, then it hits court. Usually they don’t lose their children. Children’s services are worthless.

NebraskaFilly

Yes, in most cases, they are – the one I called did not even ENTER my daughter’s house!!!!

tessa50

Even when they enter, it’s a waste of time. As long as the children look okay, they move on to the next thing on their list for the day. But it’s even worse than that. They don’t even look at criminal records unless it is for sex offenders. CFS needs a total overhaul because their recommendations to judges are completely flawed.

churchmouse

Yes, something awful should await them.
At first, I thought she and the boy (!?!) were foster parents. (That woman is old enough to be his mother.)
I am now wondering if there was some arrangement whereby they took in money either via the state (where there would be records) or from the family (private arrangement).
Isn’t it odd that the social workers never rescued those children? Were they paid off to do nothing?
I feel so sorry for those children, but especially for the surviving now ten-year-old who has lost adult teeth and has been abused beyond belief. Who knows when she last attended school? She probably has few social skills. I hope that she is placed in proper care and gets good dental reconstruction. Otherwise, she will never feel fully herself.
Let us pray for this girl and for her good future in the Lord and among her fellow citizens.
There’s a story here. And we haven’t read the last of it.

andrew1979

39 year old woman. 17 year old boyfriend.
fakebook.
gofraudme.
california.
what a collection of involved participants.

tessa50

?

Gil

Im not surprised. Add to that jerry brown just PARDONED a couple hundred more illegals so they wouldnt be deported. These “leaders” are utterly traitors and deserve that consequence.

Pat Frederick

didn’t the CA Supreme Court put a stop to that tho?

Gil

Nope. And in our midterm, several brown judiciary appiintments, that in my opinion are commies or unqualified, were elected around the state, including to the supreme court. The entire state is in stage 3 cancer.

Tonawanda

Gil, where does this end up? The CA situation seems unsustainable.

Emeraldstar

Q mentioned that CA was being scrutinized / monitored for the past mid-term elections, and that while the current outcome may not be challenged, still the frats itself would be exposed.
To get Voter ID laws passed, and to ensure a secure 2020.
I’m betting on Q!

Emeraldstar

“frats”
= “fraud”

Gil

I hope its true. Q has been saying watch ca for a long time.

tessa50

I have zero faith in Q, but I hope you are right.

TheseTruths

I wonder if Pelosi has any other business in Hawaii that could be related to a certain former president. Probably not; just a thought .

Cuppa Covfefe

Interesting news about Kashoggi, Washed-Poo, Turkey, Qatar, et. al. from Thomas Hanson (H/T Another Ian on chiefio’s blog)
http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/27/bombshell-khashoggi-foreign-governments-influence-agent/

Greg Cox

So, someone tell me if I’m right or wrong here. The Deep State, along with the Deep State run Media, and Establishment Politicians, whom have been in bed with Saudi Arabia for decades, despise Muhammad Bin Salman because he’s anti Deep State like President Trump, and as of November 2017 cut off much of the Saudi money from them. The Deep State likewise tried to assassinate MBS while he was in Las Vegas and the cover-up massacre took place. Khashoggi, a Deep State plant himself, was taken out by either the good guys or the bad guys, but either way, the Deep State had hoped it would lead to Muhammad’s power, and to possibly President Trump’s power being diminished, or eliminated.

Pat Frederick

Do you live in the DC area & want to join me for a protest at a high-ranking democrat’s office for a video that will go viral?
Reply or DM me.
If you thought I was working hard before, hold on tight — I just wasn’t thinking big enough. #RonilSingh
— #ThePersistence (@ScottPresler) December 28, 2018

Pat Frederick

Reminder–it’s not Horowitz personally–the position of #DOJ #IG is weakest of all agencies. #Mueller can and does withhold evidence from him. #Mueller is running the show. We have unaccountable out-of-control rogue prosecutors running the #WitchHunt https://t.co/SoW7qAu9qk pic.twitter.com/AtFKRKlafI
— Sidney Powell 🇺🇸⭐⭐⭐ (@SidneyPowell1) December 28, 2018

Emeraldstar

I posted this on the “mailman” thread a little while ago, but I believe it warrants reposting here:
Quote:
Just a reminder, in case our access to various internet sites goes “dark”, or is inexplicably unavailable.
The ultimate fall-back position, for all comms, is the following site given explicitly by Q (delete the brackets, and copy by hand; enter it in the URL address bar):
[https:]//8ch.net/patriotsfight.html
End-quote.

Pat Frederick

thanks Emeraldstar!

Emeraldstar

YW Pat!

Emeraldstar

And now, Massachusetts MEMA has sent out an emergency alert that the statewide 9-1-1 system is experiencing “sporadic” outages.
I sense a pattern.

Cuppa Covfefe

Methinks the DEMONcRATs and their ilk are attempting to distinguish the difference between “essential” and “non-essential”…

sunnydaysall

Meanwhile in Kenner, Lousiana…

sunnydaysall

Damn… Louisiana

sunnydaysall

CenturyLink 911 services went offline in the states of WA, AZ, and MO yesterday. Correction, nationwide.

sunnydaysall
Emeraldstar

Thanks, sunnydaysall! (Great handle!)
I wish everyone would realize that we (America) are under ATTACK.

Emeraldstar

Does everyone SEE the vertical “light” beam, which MOVES along with the destruction? Cause / effect?
Paradise, CA, redux.

Emeraldstar

In the FIRST video, rather than the second, that sunny posted.

Molly Pitcher
sunnydaysall

No way!!!! Where did you find this video, Molly? Amazing!!

Pat Frederick

how do these people know when and where to point their cameras?

sunnydaysall

Here is a new video shot I came across for the Queen’s explosion!!!
https://twitter.com/ConspiracyFcast/status/1078508980958162944

sunnydaysall

Could be a vertical light glare but people were commenting about two clouds of light above the area… but it sure is creepy none the less! I am trying to get video from an Idaho incident that happened at the same time!

sunnydaysall

But I did find this from Idaho reported on December 24th, 2018…
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-idaho-lab-infrastructure-cyber.html

tessa50

Russia does have that new military satellite up. If this is nefarious, I figure our intelligence knows and our military are all over it.

Molly Pitcher

Sunnydaysal…..that Idaho facility…and our elected officials spend billions on witch hunts, illegals, pay-for-play, etc
It’s infuriating. They don’t care about this country or it’s citizens.

Molly Pitcher

hmmm….wonder if the swamp is wondering about these pics?
https://twitter.com/QBlueSkyQ/status/1078731768310702082

Molly Pitcher

Scratch that one ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I’ll try again
https://twitter.com/russ_ayers/status/1078496428077375488

sunnydaysall

These guys are pretty straight up in their reporting! I haven’t found anything by them to dispell the report but I will keep looking!

Molly Pitcher

They both aren’t showing up for some reason but 2 pics of military people in a Q formation

Pat Frederick

I see them in the thread Molly…

Molly Pitcher

thank you Pat.

Pat Frederick

they caught the illegal who allegedly shot the immigrant Police Officer–trying to flee to Mexico! they also arrested his brother and co worker–aiding and abetting I believe.

Gil

Yeo just reading it now. He is also a sureno gang banger with 2 previous dui convictions. Just a dreamer though right?
Justice will see him and those 2 dead in a heartbeat and convictions for every official who supports open borders!

NebraskaFilly

Just coming to post the news myself – from OT:
“The illegal alien suspect in the shooting death of a Newman Police Department corporal Ronil “Ron” Singh was arrested in the Bakersfield, CA, area Friday morning, the Stansislaus County Sheriff’s Department said.
Gustavo Perez Arriaga, 32, was arrested in connection with murder of Police Officer Singh. The suspect was identified as using multiple aliases.
Also arrested for aiding and abetting were the suspect’s brother, Adrian Virgen, 25, and the suspect’s co-worker, Erik Razo Quiroz, 35.
The suspect was trying to flee to Mexico when he was captured, Stansislaus Sheriff Adam Christianson. Gustavo Perez Arriaga also claimed to be a member of the Sureno street gang, the sheriff said during a press briefing moments ago (See Video Below).”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/28/breaking-suspect-captured-during-manhunt-for-california-cop-killer/

michaelh

I have a couple of questions that are nagging at me, given the spiritual warfare we are facing:
1) How to help believers recognize the spiritual reality of the present
(“…take my advice…and buy eye salve to put on your eyes so you can see!” ~ Revelation 3:18 NET)
2) How to help believers shift from a defensive mentality/posture to offensive
(“…on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.” ~ Matthew 16:18 NET)
Thoughts?

Molly Pitcher

Like the questions and hope some of the more spiritually evolved people (than myself fo sure) here might see this and comment

michaelh

Yes I know I’m asking for thoughts and input beyond my normal circles. If that means giving you a platform to sermonize, please take it!
Interesting you should put it this way: Take OWNERSHIP of one’s role in battle. AWANA. Who approves? GOD!
I have been looking for ways to serve for years that kept the locus of ministry within the local church. But this isn’t how God has used me in the past, and looking forward it doesn’t seem that my future calling would be able to work this way either. As an example, starting a Christian fellowship and Bible group at work just doesn’t fit well as a ministry of a local church.
You are correct then to say I don’t need human or institutional approval to pursue the calling. I had a bad experience years ago with a prior church that was extremely controlling when it came to anyone doing ministry – they would not allow anything unless they ‘confirmed’ the calling. My father advised me at the time that many churches have no concept of what it means for an individual to have a calling in their life.
In short: Expand your thinking.
Don’t be ashamed to do what God called you to.
As to the other question, “How to help believers recognize the spiritual reality of the present” I need to think through this more. You are right there are many layers of deception going on – attempts to control and manipulate believers in the churches toward specific politically motivated ends. It’s not worth going into all the detail here – I’m very aware of the problem.
Too many believers see all these aspects of culture as things happening out there, or as “political” and therefore they don’t want to dirty their “spiritual” practice engaging it. Generally they just don’t recognize the resurgent paganism in spiritual terms, or recognize that countering spiritual warfare means using spiritual weapons and tactics. Many would rather give money to a legal defense fund and only fight that way – that’s great, we need it, but you’re waiting until the enemy is in the gates before you fight back, which is hardly the church militant going on the spiritual offensive against the forces of darkness – who should be in full retreat!

Marica
trumpismie

10:00 pm tonight. Need a nap. Thanks for the heads up

wheatietoo

Thanks for posting that, Marica!
Very Qewl.

GA/FL

Heheheh……

Marica

Anonymoushorse

I think PT prefers to be a Mar a Lago for the holidays. His absence is interesting.

Tonawanda

At the very least, proof that he has given up the benefits of his wealth for us.

trumpismie

Extra prayers for POTUS DJT against the traitors of us all

Marica

Is it me–But twitter world knows POTUS, VPOTUS, Mick Mulveney and Jared are all Meeting at the Pence’s…Is that actually SAFE?

Johnny

i was wondering whether those walls still have ears? We didn’t hear of any massive renovation at the VPOTUS Observatory, or did we?

pgroup

Well, they did bury Senator Plane Crash there so who knows exactly which wall he’s in. Maybe they used his burial to cover up construction noise and commotion.

Gil

If you havent seen the Stanislaus county sheriff’s press conference it is THE example for the wall.
If the family will acquiesce, I HOPE POTUS invites them to the SOTU.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If nothing has worked before to get through to certain people, this certainly won’t do the job.
It’s just gonna get done over the opposition’s protests and they can basically go F themselves.

Gil

As in every example, theresbalways someone beyond reach. But for the case of legal immigration vs illegal, and the stark differences directly involved in this case, it is woryhy of Presidential notation.(imho)

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, it’s worth while for him to bring it up, no disagreement there.

NebraskaFilly

Please – contact the WH and suggest it. We all can…..we know PDJT pays attention to us!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/#page

Sylvia Avery

Gil, I just don’t even know what to say. I feel like my words are inadequate and awkward and I am frankly at a loss as to understand why the murder of your cop has grieved me so deeply, but it has.
TBH, I’m of an age where grown men on camera weeping seems undignified and it usually strikes me as a little unseemly and as though the media is wallowing in the emotion. But watching the Police Chief speak through his tears and then watching this cop’s brother, well, I kept gulping and blinking.
I don’t know. There’s something about this young man, just starting out really with his little family. It breaks my heart. And I am so angry at the fools who put us in this position.
How’s this going over in California? I would have thought Kate Steinle’s murder (another one that was so hard to bear) would have really brought California to its feet, but we saw how SF reacted.

Gil

Among cops, they all know this is the fault of dimms. They cant say it bc the media and govt is geared toward hating cops. Anger is plentiful but the state is so big, illegals commit so much crime, people get desensitized, esp when media is complicit. No one talks Trump much. Our environment is not open Trump support bc the nuts are everywhere and the state supports criminals, since those running the state are criminals themselves.
I talk plainly with people I come in contact with individually and everyone I speak to is a Trump supporter, a law supporter, but doesnt speak up in the liberal echochamber. Our state leadership Rs are cucked generally, not all, but still on the Bush era must pander and dont upset xyz cart. No enough on the Trump train.
CA is in need of a breakup in the state, isolation to remove the threats here from illegals, the Chinese, and big tech.
More of the state is Trump territory than not but with the fraud the dems have control.
My answer to the problems is not THE answer. Q says watch CA. I watch every day. When is one more sacrifice going to be enough before extreme measures must be taken to preserve the country?

sobriquet3

Very tragic…

sobriquet3

Same here

Greg Cox

I first heard of her death at 5pm Central from Brett Bair (Fox). My first thought was of that Federalist article, posted here a couple times today, regarding Khashoggi being a propagandist agent against Saudi Arabia. I looked back at it, but don’t see it connected to Bre in anyway. Also heard Dan Bongino (filling in for Mark Levin) say he was shocked, was somewhat close to, and knew her. Pretty sure he said she was just on Fox News last night. Something doesn’t smell right.

Sylvia Avery

Bre was a great warrior for our side in the media battlefield. Her loss to our side is huge. I’ve seen her many times and she was very good, like a young Mollie Hemmingway. We lost a bright star. And so young. My heart hurts for her family.
The flu? She died of the flu? I know it happens all the time, but still…

Gil

Mr gils friend’s gf died from the flu. History of poir immune system and just died in her skeep. Early 30s. It does happen.

Sylvia Avery

Yes, for what would think of as a young strong adult there is usually some kind of underlying health compromise. Still, it is shocking to hear that.

Gudthots

Poor immune system.
Our youth have never been given a chance.
Radiation is immune suppressive.
They’ve been marinated in cell phones, cordless home phones, WiFi, microwave ovens, baby monitors, and the list goes on. Reporters are glued to their laptops and cell phones. Airplanes with every device onboard using wireless are now reaching microwave power levels that would cook your dinner.
This is not a joke. Some scientists are literally calling it the setup for an “extinction event.”
I say this as someone with a scientific research background.

itswoot

With the disruption last night of communication networks, and the failure of electrical transformers across the U.S., here’s something I think we need to keep in mind. This Wikipedia entry details a coordinated sniper attack in 2013 on 17 transformers at a California electrical substation, and the cutting of fiber optic communication cables in the same area, and on the same night.
The focus has been on the attack being a domestic terrorist attack. Those responsible for it have yet to be caught. No fingerprints were on the rifle shell casings left behind. A tightly run operation, not since repeated.
Excerpt from Wikipedia:
Sophistication of attack
Former Chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission Jon Wellinghoff stated that military experts informed him that the assault looked like a “professional job”, noting that no fingerprints were discovered on the empty shell casings.[7] He has described the attack as “the most significant incident of domestic terrorism involving the grid that has ever occurred”.[9]
Henry Waxman, a ranking member of the United States House Committee on Energy and Commerce, stated that the attack was “an unprecedented and sophisticated attack on an electric grid substation with military-style weapons. Communications were disrupted. The attack inflicted substantial damage. It took weeks to replace the damaged parts. Under slightly different conditions, there could have been serious power outages or worse.”[8]
Aftermath
Seventeen transformers were seriously damaged, requiring over $15 million worth of repairs. To avert a black-out, energy grid officials were forced to reroute power from nearby Silicon Valley based power plants.[2][10] While some nearby neighborhoods temporarily lost power, “the big users weren’t even aware Metcalf had happened”, according to an expert from the Electric Power Research Institute.[1]
Both PG&E, the company which operated the transformers, and AT&T offered $250,000 rewards for any information leading to the arrest and conviction of the perpetrators of the attack.[6][11]
In June 2014, PG&E announced that it intended to spend $100 million over a three-year span on upgrading security at substations throughout its territory, including the Metcalf location.[12]
A July 2014 report from the Congressional Research Service titled Physical Security of the U.S. Power Grid: High-Voltage Transformer Substations repeatedly cited the attack and noted that, “… in the wake of the Metcalf incident, the FERC has ordered the imposition of mandatory physical security standards (for substations) in 2014.”[13][14]
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack

itswoot

“… failure of electrical transformers across the U.S….”
I got a little carried away. Should have mentioned that the electrical failures were in only two areas of the U.S. I have seen one report at VOAT of another occurring last night in Mexico, but haven’t tracked that story down after a few tries.

Anonymoushorse

Trial runs? Testing the waters?

itswoot

A one-off like that does suggest a “trial run” scenario. A guy in Arkansas was caught trying to do something like that. Might have been a copy-cat.
Some further reading on the importance of protecting electrical subatations / main stations from a coordinated attack.
Excerpt:
… But Thomas offered a much easier, and much scarier alternative to a cyberattack, that even the federal government has acknowledged could cause a nationwide blackout for more than a year.
The ‘nine substation problem’
“Destroy nine interconnection substations and a transformer manufacturer and the entire United States grid would be down for at least 18 months, probably longer,” a government analysis obtained by the Wall Street Journal concluded in 2014.
Thomas called it the “9 substation problem.” As the government study showed, there are about 55,000 electric substations — most of which have little security beyond fences — 30 of which are deemed “critical.” If just nine transformers of those 30 were messed with, it would be lights out for quite a while.
That’s because they are large, difficult to move, and often custom-built, according to the National Academy of Sciences.
Then there are rural electric cooperatives — roughly 1,000 companies responsible for distributing power to tens of millions of Americans. Although they aren’t the biggest targets, they have been called one of the biggest risks based on their relatively limited security measures. Taking one of them down could definitely knock out local power, and Tech Insider saw firsthand how that could be achieved back in April.
Attacks like these are not as far fetched as you might think.
source: https://www.businessinsider.com/power-grid-hacking-ukraine-2016-6

Sylvia Avery

I don’t think this is far fetched at all. Probably all too easy and it would kill so many Americans.
And better than a nuke because it would leave the land all nice and cleared of us icky, privileged resource-gobbling nasty old Americans who don’t seem to have the decency to just go crawl into a corner and die so room can be made for more malleable types like those lovely Central Americans.

itswoot

Sylvia,
I don’t blame you for having cynicism towards the situation America is in. I think that it hits us all at one time or another. Evil overload…
I held off on posting this sobering info since early this morning, but decided it would be better to have this on our radar, rather than be blindsided if something like this went down. Maybe help us on our planning / actions for such an event? To be on the alert?

Sylvia Avery

Most definitely.

Cuppa Covfefe

Another thing to consider is that a lot of the larger transformers are MADE IN CHINA…
Seems we don’t have the equipment/factories/will(?) to build them anymore…
I would not be surprised if VSGPDJT has that on his infrastructure and security list…
The Klintoons, Øbozo, the Bushies, Carter, and probably LBJ let the US infrastructure go to hell. The last President who was really concerned was Eisenhower, who created the Interstate Highway system, among other projects. Nowadays, the tree-huggers and snowflakes get in the way of any improvements or even maintenance of our infrastructure…

rf121

I have looked at plenty of power plants, substations etc. Do not recall seeing Chinese transformers. Some Chinese hydroelectric units. There are plenty of transformer manufacturers in the US. The issue is the lead time to build bigger ones or to even repair them. That is why larger facilities will have on site spares or a “pool” spare that can be shipped to different sites.
The vunerability of “hacking” the grid is way over blown and there are a lot of redundancies in the system. I would be more concerned with a large solar event then anything else. Akin to an EMP issue although systems are better protected to deal with surges compared to the Carrington Event.
Transformers do fail but the larger ones are tested regularly and you can actually tell if a unit is trending toward failure. Utilities and insurance companies have too much on the line with this type of equipment so maintenance and upkeep is a very big deal.

Cuppa Covfefe

Judging from just PG&E’s performance in this respect, I wouldn’t be so sanguine about the level of upkeep and maintenance being done. And although the boulevard-magazine image of hacking doesn’t occur (nor do martians kidnap people’s dogs), professional and state-sponsored cracking into various infrastructure points and facilities does occur, and not just of the power grid. SCADA and other frameworks have had their issues…

rf121

No system is perfect. It is just the news makes it seems like the “grid” can be easily cracked and hacked which I would consider to be an over statement.
As to PG&E, I would look closer at the regulatory environment they have to work in as a bigger issue for them. California is essentially regulating themselves into future regular blackouts.

NebraskaFilly

There was a huge explosion at one, I know that – ConEd in NY, I believe. What was the 2nd?

sunnydaysall

Kenner, Louisiana!

NebraskaFilly

Thanks – I neglected to read the older comments.

singularZoe

I was wrong, kept thinking Texas, but now I remember. sorry, it Was Louisiana.

singularZoe

I think Texas but really know nothing about it.

Elizabeth Carter

itswoot, One thing that we need to keep in mind is that most of the major corruption is in these huge sanctuary cities that hold the fly over country in total contempt.
These huge cities will suffer the most in a power grid attack. That has to register in the dElite’s brains.
The people in flyover country have access to water, food, guns for hunting food, land to grow food and many other things that the people in the big cities do not have.
We will survive a 2 year power outage. It won’t be fun and it won’t be easy but it can be done.
In the big cities, they won’t even be able to breathe in their high rise environments. They won’t have food, water or simple sewer hookups. They won’t have lights. They will not survive.
My guess is that the truckers travel the flyover country all the time and they actually identify with American citizens more than they identify with the Global dElites.
When the SHTF, these truckers will simply stop delivering to the cities. They will open up highway markets at low prices to take care of Americans and abandon their trucks when they run out of things that are needed.
If there is no power, no one needs Electronics etc. so that type of merchandise will be abandoned first.
What a lot of the people in flyover country take for granted is how to look out for each other, barter, and love their brothers and sisters.
We will be fine. The cities won’t survive a month. The dElites will have to go find someplace else to leach off of. They will destroy each other.
We have nothing to fear and they have no hope, once they take things to this extreme.
Be calm, remember who you are and that God takes care of us. The dElites never took care of anyone but themselves and they never will.

itswoot

“These huge cities will suffer the most in a power grid attack. That has to register in the dElite’s brains.”
I agree from the standpoint of the elites /cabal concerns for a grid attack that would harm their power base the most. But then again, maybe collateral damage to their own side becomes acceptable if it gives the cabal what they most want.
I think Muslims would be the most likely group to try to take down the U.S. power grid. They wouldn’t care who got hurt the most. Iran openly boasts of having sleeper cells here in America, and in totally destroying us. They may be opportunists in their timing regarding current U.S. turmoil.
It gets confusing trying to sort it all out.
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJB)

sunnydaysall

And now for something completely different…
This from our wonderful friend and funny Patriot, Joe Dan Gorman, at Intellectual Froglegs!
Joe Dan Gorman SUPER-ELITE, Intellectual Froglegs
‏ @JoeDanMedia
Dec 20
This is hilarious… Very short.
Deer nails the Phil Collins’ drum solo in “In the air tonight”

Cuppa Covfefe

Must’ve gotten a “John Deer” letter 🙂

Johnny

Ah, so what did the plow say to the tractor?

Johnny

.

Johnny

Pull me a little closer John Deere
LOL, ya, I know. But, it’s Friday 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

And, playing softly in the background, “Happy Trailers, Two Ewes, until we meet again”…

Johnny

LOL Yup Happy Tails!

Johnny

Dang! Vape sales are hard:)

sunnydaysall

Gil, here is the Youtube version of the video and oh my goodness this is amazing! I was not able to play the video on reddit so I found it on Youtube! Wow! The soyboy behind the counter is disgusting, to say the least, and all over a Trump t-shirt!
Please be aware there is a lot of foul language in the video!

Gil

That poor black dude in the background is just stunned.

sunnydaysall

So true Gil! He was probably stunned by the fact that soyboy called the Trump dude the N-word and then in the same breath called him a racist while screaming like a girl at the same time! I really felt sorry for the black guy. He just wanted to get out of there!

NebraskaFilly

IMO, this guy is an idiot! Really? What IS the point of this childishness? And I am talking about the MAGA guy. OK, record for a minute or so, if you feel the need, but just move on to another store already. I just don’t see the point of pushing the guy over the edge. He is clearly mentally deranged – leave him to his lunacy already! again, JMO

PeteC

Calm down, NF!!!! Lol

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm. Seems the snowflakes assert that EVERYONE must be served, whether it’s at a florist, a baker, or a photography shop…
Oh, wait.
That’s only for THEIR vendors and shopkeepers…
Sorry, vape-selling buttercup; you HAVE to serve the customer in a TRUMP shirt…
Great vid. Snowflake meltdown…

Cuppa Covfefe

Or maybe “the vape of Lucrece”…

Johnny

Fired. . .comment image.
I watched this a couple more times. Put it on while I did dishes. I think that child needs a doc. Capitalism can get him a good doc:)
This was posted over at IOTW.

sunnydaysall

And then there is this… I know there is still more to this story than meets the eye but for now, I will see this as an acceptable premise…
http://www.independentsentinel.com/bombshell-wapos-khashoggi-was-a-propagandist-for-terror-tied-nation/

Cuppa Covfefe

The Federalist is on it too (posted it on the previous page):
http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/27/bombshell-khashoggi-foreign-governments-influence-agent/

sunnydaysall

When will the DS learn that the general public is no longer going to accept their Project MockingBird media at their word? We will turn over every stone to find the truth and sooner or later it surfaces only strengthening our distrust in the MSM! And as Q says, “trust your instincts and your logic! You have all the information you need right in front of you!”

NYGuy54

The Saudis will play a key role when the storm hits…

Sylvia Avery

I was just checking CTH’s headlines and stopped to read SD’s post, “Mick Mulvaney Highlights Nancy Pelosi Position to Weaponize Government Shutdown as Part of Coordinated Resistance Agenda” and I recommend reading it.
It features a video of Mick doing a presser and I haven’t viewed that yet. It is SDs theory about how the House which is now in the hands of the Communists will use the next two years that bears reading and thinking about. Warning: it is dark and it is despairing. However, I think it is worth looking at it square in the face, unflinching, so as to see what we are up against.
(What SD doesn’t say, and what the hope of my heart is, is that maybe the Commies’ apple cart will be all upset by other events that will derail their agenda. Like arrests. Because I believe.)
https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/19678796/posts/158251

Molly Pitcher

The best weapon we have is our taxes If we refuse to pay.

Sylvia Avery

Warning. Commies Up To No Good.

sunnydaysall

There are a few things missing in SD’s blog… Yes, it is dark and dank and full of dread for 2019 and beyond, but he did not add any “light” to it! SD had the light right there in front of him and he ignored it all together!
#1 Trump won the presidency and has cut many regulations and changed the way many things work in Congress! Trump is true to his word. He loves this country and all of us, and by golly, if that isn’t enough inspiration for the masses then we are doomed! He will do what he needs to do to save us all! It has been almost 100 years since we have had a president that truly loves this country and his fellow countrymen and women (yes, only 2 genders) and if that isn’t a huge change in DC then nothing is! (truth is light)
#2 We, Americans and the world, are wide awake and we will not settle for violence from the left! Americans will put a stop to it if the left want’s to truly rumble! The Patriots are front and center now!! (light)
#3 We now have Q and SD refuses to accept Q! Yes, we are prepped and prepared and we need to tell others constantly just what we could be facing in our country when the SHTF! Q has taught us well and will keep our eyes opened and the country well informed!
#4 The Military! We now have a military that can be dedicated to American Freedom! They will be brought forward to pierce the darkness should the marxist demand violence and try to overthrow the government! Call it martial law or a coup but I would rather have the military clean house of the rats if need be. I for one am not willing to let a marxist regime take over the strongest military on the face of the planet! No way… Yes, the military in my book is (light)!
#5 The MSM is dead! They have lost almost all their power over the American people, and the world! We now keep each other informed and awake and are constantly in search of the truth! (light)
#6 We have our faith! Faith is one of the strongest emotions in the universe! Yes, evil has its faith as well but the light will carry us farther and can push us to heights never felt before! Light is where it is at folks and I prefer to stay in the light! Keep the faith and follow the plan!
In my opinion, most of SD’s analogy was put together before Trump became president and he is not giving Trump any credit for making changes to counter the dark!! I fear that SD has gone over to the dark side… No pun intended.

NYGuy54

He’s not real MAGA.

scott467

I certainly hope he is.
He has been, at least until semi-recently.
But what plausible purpose can there be to relentlessly demoralizing your own side?
It’s one thing for leadership to say the odds are against us (although in this case, I don’t think they are).
It’s quite another thing for leadership to undermine morale and plant fear, failure and expectation of defeat in your troops.
In all the leadership manuals ever written, has any one of them ever advocated the explicit demoralization of your own people?

scott467

“Warning: it is dark and it is despairing.”
_________________
Yep, standard CTH demoralization psy-op.
If you open your window and listen carefully, you can almost hear CTH readers all over the country calling in to suicide hotlines.
I could never reply as I wanted to these spirit-killer articles on CTH because of Testy’s ‘ban hammer’.
Let’s take a quick romp through the suicidal apocalypse landscape brought to us today by Soul-Crusher:
……………………………………………
SD: “Career Democrats are working through a highly coordinated political agenda, defended by institutional media allies, that involve weaponizing the House of Representatives.”
Translation: the end is near, and there is nothing you can do. All is lost.
SD: “If we take the empirical 2006 example as the starting point and overlay the 2018 landscape to modernize the predictive model, what results is a most likely scenario.”
Translation: what follows is speculation about the worst possible outcome imaginable, without hope or any plausible possibility that life itself will continue. All is lost.
SD: “First, any intellectually honest review must overlay the current political environment.”
You mean the one where DJT is president, and we control the Senate, and we have a 5-4 majority on the Supreme Court that should soon be a 6-3 majority?
No, that’s not what SD means.
What SD means is “all is lost”. Cue the theme from M*A*S*H.
SD: “In 2018 the scale of unchecked lawless behavior is a significant influence toward the differences we can expect from the last time Democrat/Marxists held congressional power.”
Either it was unchecked — in which case VSG is (must be) Chauncey Gardiner, clueless as a newborn babe in the woods — or it wasn’t really as unchecked as the always and ever reliable MSM would have us believe.
SD: “In 2006 the radicals, needed to downplay their radicalism. In 2018 the severity and aggression of the left, as assisted by the dropping of all media pretense, no longer needs to hide the intention. When Democrat-Marxists take control in January of 2019 they no longer need to couch the extremism, the American electorate have been prepped.”
Prepped for what, pay tell? To go along with it, because we’ve seen their insanity first-hand?
Based on the 2016 election results and DJT’s approval ratings, is there any reason to believe that the public is going to support the hard Left’s descent into the Heart of Darkness for a ritual Party suicide with Col. Kurtz?
Whoa! Watch out! Stampeding herd of Eeyores!
SD: “Secondly, it cannot be overstated how violent and confrontational the House of Representatives will be as soon as they are sworn in.”
But you’re at least gonna TRY to overstate it, right?
SD: “They will work with an immediate purposeful intention.”
Translation: All hope is lost (again).
SD: “All political violence will be approved to attain their objectives.”
ALL?!?
Are we talking 9/11 type violence?
Assassinations?
Worse?
How do you suppose anything like that is going to go over with DJT in the WH, instead of Hussein O’Traitor?
SD: “The recent behavior of Jim Acosta (CNN media), and ANTIFA toward Tucker Carlson, is now, and will be going forward, the new normal.”
[fumbles around for cyanide capsule]
SD: “There will be extreme political violence.”
Translation: All hope is lost (again) (again).
SD: “In 2006 it was the SEIU and AFSCME union foot-soldiers who smashed windows, advanced upon polling places and engaged in the most severe examples of voter fraud and intimidation. In 2018, with the help of uber-Alinsky DNC Chairman Tom Perez, that corrupt sentiment is now institutionalized within democrat-socialist political apparatus. ANTIFA is now the DNC grassroots activist approach.”
Who was in charge in 2006?
Traitor 43, wasn’t it?
Who was in charge for 2008-2015? That would be Traitor 44.
But who is in charge NOW?
That would be one Donald John Trump.
And he’s NOT onboard with the Cabal’s plan to take America down.
SD: “Failing to accept the severity of this shift in the past decade is intellectually dishonest.”
So is failing to accept that there’s a new Sheriff in town, and his name is not Reggie Hammond.
His name is Donald J. Trump.
SD: “As Nancy Pelosi said of the Occupy Wall Street violent anarchists: “God bless these people.” Indeed the OWS precursor to ANTIFA were laying the groundwork for the new severity of power in Democrat leadership. Nothing is out-of-bounds; no level of corrupt behavior will be avoided; everything will happen openly and without any backlash from a compliant media apparatus; the social fabric will be shredded.”
Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh! The sky has FALLEN!!!! Run for your LIVES!

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What SD seems to fail to recognize is that the dark, ‘Escape from New York’ dystopian fantasy wasteland he envisions — if it occurs at all — is NOT going to occur in a vacuum.
Does he really think DJT is just going to hang a ‘Gone Fishin’ sign on the door of the Oval Office for the next six years, and disappear?
I don’t doubt one bit that the MONSTERS on the Left (and they are pure evil) would love to do exactly what SD is forecasting. I don’t doubt they would eat their own children on live TV, if it furthered their Satanic cause.
But before we all slit our own throats in a mass-suicide event, maybe — just MAYBE — we might remember that:
A) President Trump is in charge
B) President Trump is not Chauncey Gardiner
C) President Trump is not a shrinking violet
D) President Trump is only one man, yet he continually has his enemies surrounded
E) see ‘B’ above
SD: “Few people have any idea just how bad these next two years are going to be.”
Are we talkin’ Pol Pot / Khmer Rouge?
Uganda / Idi Amin?
Papa Doc / Haiti?
Jonestown?
Or are we talking bigger?
Mao?
Stalin?
Hitler?
Is there any ceiling on the SD Acme Anxiety Metastasizer Machine?
SD: “For these political Marxists who are about to take power that’s all they do. Every moment of their existence they spend thinking about how to gain power and dominate, 24/7/365 that is all they do.”
Translation: All hope is lost3 (again) (again) (and again).
SD: “That is all the ever talk about; that is all they ever converse with each-other about. Every second of every moment, in every meeting, is consumed with plots, plans and strategies for indulging themselves and growing power at all costs.”
It’s the end of the world as we know it
It’s the end of the world as we know it
It’s the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine…

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Rare footage of SD’s ACME Doom & Anxiety assembly line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50wihQ4dwsg

michaelh

Yeah, that’s not exactly how I interpreted it.

scott467

“Yeah, that’s not exactly how I interpreted it.”
________________
Well, I looked awfully hard for a bright side, hidden somewhere amongst the smoldering rubble, and found none.
Reading articles like the one I commented on is like a direct attack on the psyche. I don’t know how it can be taken any other way. Hanoi Hannah and Tokyo Rose would be high-fiving each other if they could pull off that kind of demoralization operation.
How did you interpret it?

para59r

Let me guess, SD didn’t bring up Declas.
Pretty much has ruled it out I suppose.
Wasn’t SD saving that for leverage? Or was it Horse Trading?
Guess the institutions(FBI, DOJ, CIA, et al ) need saving more than the Constitution.

scott467

“Let me guess, SD didn’t bring up Declas.
Pretty much has ruled it out I suppose.
Wasn’t SD saving that for leverage? Or was it Horse Trading?”
__________________
Eeyore farm.
He dropped off Declas at the Eeyore farm, where he can hear the entire herd go “Oh, well…..”

Sylvia Avery

No Declas.
No Leverage.
No Horse Trading.
No Huber.
No Horowitz.
There was only Nancy and her Commies and the political violence they will unleash.

michaelh

Pretty much as a brutally honest assessment that the situation is going to be difficult. Zip up your flight jacket and buckle in because it’s going to be rough. Saddle up. Man up.
Very different than Tokyo Rose psyops oriented toward preemptive surrender.

Sylvia Avery

Holy Cow, Scott, I thought I saw through SD’s dire predictions by noting he had forgotten to pack his hope and faith, but WOW did you shine the bright hot spotlight on each and every idea in his article! So good, I think I’ll go read it again.

scott467

“…but WOW did you shine the bright hot spotlight on each and every idea in his article!”
________________
Well, I skipped a few… it was getting long…
😁

Sylvia Avery

That was some sizzling, vampire-destroying level sunlight! If I weren’t banned I’d be tempted to copy that word for word over there. Bet it wouldn’t last long, though.

scott467

“That was some sizzling, vampire-destroying level sunlight!”
_________________
Mostly it’s just a defensive reaction, really.
How are we supposed to react, when people in positions of leadership on our own side are actively sowing despair and defeat?
I don’t dislike Sundance in the least, quite the opposite, and I am grateful for the many things I have learned there since before the 2016 election campaign.
But when someone on your own side keeps jabbing you in the back with a hot poker, and he won’t stop, sooner or later you have to rip it out of his hands and ask him what the &^%$ he’s doing…

scott467

“What SD means is “all is lost”. Cue the theme from M*A*S*H.”
______________
For those who may not recall, the theme from M*A*S*H has words, and is titled ‘Suicide is Painless’.
It was a little too depressing for a TV audience, so they used an instrumental version for the TV series.

para59r

Well live and learn. Never knew this, but you are quite correct. Ackkk! https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=INCOH2&PC=IFJ1&PTAG=ICO-c9d0fc87&q=Theme%20song%20from%20Mash

scott467

I never know how many of my obscure / somewhat obscure references are actually communicated 😁
All is Lost‘ (2013) is a Sundance movie (i.e., starring Robert Redford) about a man, alone, lost at sea: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/All-Is-Lost-Blu-ray/79067/
I won’t give away the ending, but it was pretty amazing.
Chauncey Gardiner was a character played by Peter Sellers in the 1979 film ‘Being There‘:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Being-There-Blu-ray/170594/
Heart of Darkness is a reference to the novel by Joseph Conrad, adapted by Francis Ford Coppola for the 1979 film ‘Apocalypse Now‘. One of the central characters is named Kurtz in the novel, and in the film, Col. Kurtz was played by Marlon Brando:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Apocalypse-Now-Blu-ray/14093/
Reggie Hammond is a character played by Eddie Murphy in the 1982 film ‘48 Hours‘ (co-starring Nick Nolte). In one of the best known scenes, Nolte (plain clothes cop) and Reggie Hammond (convict on prison release to help Nolte track down one of Reggie’s old gang members) walk into a redneck bar, where Nolte watches as Hammond pretends to be an undercover cop and interrogates several of the patrons who don’t take too kindly to him or his attitude.
At the very end of the scene, Reggie says ‘There’s a new Sheriff in town, and his name’s Reggie Hammond.” (caution, profanity):

Run Like Hell‘ is a song from the 1979 double record LP titled ‘The Wall’ by Pink Floyd, itself an extremely depressing album (but a great one, IMO).
That three of the references were from 1979 was just a coincidence… I think 🙂

singularZoe

Scott, thank you for saving us having to wade through the SD morass. Your editing and commentary are invaluable. You made me smile, and smile and smile again. Needed that.

scott467

If It made you smile, then it worked 😁

Marica

https://twitter.com/M2Madness/status/1078817189862494208
Interesting visit to the VP house…

Marica

Gil

So much to wonder about. Space force, iran, eu globalists, china.

scott467

Tweet by: Jewhadi™ @JewhadiTM
Are the Investigations the Cover-Up? https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/are_the_investigations_the_coverup.html … via @AmericanThinker
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SD replies:
“TheLastRefuge @TheLastRefuge2
30m30 minutes ago
TheLastRefuge Retweeted Jewhadi™:
“Yes. All of them.”
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If he really believes that, doesn’t he have an obligation to DO something about it, to find a way to bring it to DJT’s attention, to do SOMETHING besides demoralizing his readers and spiking the year end suicide rate?
When asked for further comment, SD continued by saying that your dog is going to die, you’re going to lose your truck, lose your home and lose your wife (combination of all country music songs).
Your pensions and retirement funds will be wiped out.
The colors of the sky will all turn black and the Ebola will wipe out America.
The sun will then refuse to shine.
The end.
The negativity is so over-the-top it’s almost comical.
Almost.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep.
But here’s a country song that they should sing Over There: “Time Wounds All Heels”… The blackhats will get their comeuppance, probably not as quickly as most folks want (doing it right takes time), but it WILL HAPPEN…

Marica

I read OT a while ago and and SD seemed off his meds again…

Sylvia Avery

He’s in a dark place. Apparently no faith or hope allowed.

Sylvia Avery

Scott, I posted a SD article just a bit ago about what he sees ahead for the next two years with the House weaponized by the Communists to bring down PDJT. I don’t think he is wrong. I don’t think he is overstating it. And it is black as hell.
HOWEVER, just because that is what they have planned and that is what it looks like doesn’t mean that is what will come. There are black swan events in this world all the time. San Fran Nan may cackle and preen and lay her plans with her Overlords, but it would be well for all of us including Sundance (and San Fran Nan) remember we are not in charge.
We have a President who was annointed by God to lead us at this time in this place. Against all odds he placed PDJT in authority as our leader. I don’t think for a minute that was so we could all get run over by the Commies.
I know the argument is that believing this way makes me compliant, that I will bow my head and clasp my hands and meekly accept what comes just because I pray unceasing and “trust the plan.” That would be wrong.
But I believe that something will happen that is going to upend their pretty plans for World Domination. I’m not sorry I read the article because I believe in doing my best to prepare for what may come. But I’m not even close to giving up.

Sylvia Avery

“But I will be honest – I cannot explain things without thinking that our side is making huge moves that absolutely cannot be seen.”
I think so, too.

NYGuy54

watch the military..that’s all that counts now…wheatie has the right idea…they are not going to let the communists take over this government which is the subtle implication of sundance’s doom and gloom

sunnydaysall

I fully agree, NYGuy54!!

Marica

Ed! (am I remembering your name?) Such a super great point! And watching the troops cheering POTUS and FLOTUS –PDJT–Is a freaking Genius! and a Patriot!

NYGuy54

yes…Ed is my name..thank you.

Marica

Hi Ed! But NYGuy cracks me up! So is Donald Trump! lol

Marica

Sylvia! You are a realist and I love that about you! SD Article was very real and even probably “true”. My Problem with his writing and his “conclusions” is that HE NEVER factors in the Genius who is our President. And Here’s the kicker–He doesnt (unless I am missing it) ask anyone to Pray!! Wolfie, Praying Medic, Lisa Mei, Q! and so many/most Anons ask for prayers and pray all the time!! No Faith OT–or very little. Why do you think Minnie is gone?…

Sylvia Avery

Marica, you put your finger right square on it. There is never any hope or belief or even thought expressed that maybe PDJT has ALSO seen the problem and maybe, just maybe, has done some work to counter it. SD has no hope.
And you’re right. Despite the strong notes of faith that have been present in that site all this time, if it ever existed in SD it seems to have evaporated. It’s painful.

Marica

IT is Wolfie!! Your site has helped us ALL! Treepers who WILL NOT be demoralized! I know God (and with Alison’s help –my personal Angel!) got me here!!! And and Ya’ll here!! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE IN! WWG1WGA!!! Love you guys!!

sunnydaysall

I have read SD for the past 2 years and as of 6 months ago, it just does not sound like him! I often wonder if he is even writing his blogs anymore!

Cuppa Covfefe

Or perhaps has someone looking over his shoulder…
Castung aspersions upon diversions…

sunnydaysall

I know this may sound strange but maybe he has a new girlfriend who is liberal… My youngest did an about face when he married a liberal and I did not even recognize him after 4 months with her… and he was a hard core conservative! At least I thought he was… 🙁 But that is in the past and he has finally come to his senses after 8 years… Geez.
I guess the truth is that we may never know the true story behind what is happening to SD, but he is in my prayers.

sunnydaysall

You said beautifully what I tried to say as well! TY 🙂 It is wonderful to know that we here at the Q Tree are all on the same path!

Marica

Your name says it all!! We are her for a reason!! GOD bought us here!!! Love Sunnydays!!

sunnydaysall

Amen, Marica! 🙂

scott467

“I know the argument is that believing this way makes me compliant, that I will bow my head and clasp my hands and meekly accept what comes just because I pray unceasing and “trust the plan.” That would be wrong. ”
____________________
But that’s just it, it does’t make anyone ‘compliant’, that’s as bogus of a narrative as anything the Left has ever cracked up.
If you want to create or instill ‘compliance’, here’s a surefire recipe.
It’s called Seven Steps to Compliance:
1) abdicate leadership (but don’t leave the stage, your voice is needed for demoralization ops)
2) preach doom and gloom unendingly
3) never EVER mention any kind of ACTION that can or should be taken… and if anyone brings the idea that maybe we should actually DO something, clamp down on that stuff with an atomic ban-hammer
4) indoctrinate everyone to bottle up all of their fear, anxiety and terror that YOU have done your level best to create
5) call it
COLD ANGER
6) then brag to each other about how good you are at keeping all your Cold Anger bottled up inside, how it makes you somehow superior to the enemy (who is apparently kicking your @ss all day long) and never do anything about it… ever
7) C O M P L I A N C E

Gil

You forgot elimination of dissent to promote groupthink. He did that. Telling people to state i understand like a bizarre blog fealty. Its just so unnerving.

Sylvia Avery

That was so odd, so creepy, so cult like or something. Ick. I keep pushing that out of my mind because it was so uncomfortable.

Sylvia Avery

Jeepers, Scott. I didn’t stop to think but you’re right. The Q makes us compliant narrative is dumb, isn’t it? I know it is ineffective with me, but I didn’t look around me long enough to think, “who WOULD that work on?????” Probably no body.
As for the rest of it, wow. When you put it like that, it seems deliberate not random.

Greg Cox

These people are sick!
“Sovereign nation states must not listen to the will of their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty.” — Angela Merkel
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/angela-merkel-nation-states-must-give-up-sovereignty-to-new-world-order/

PeteC

Angela needs to find a Muslim bus to run in front of…soon!!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

Now that would be true “Kulturelle Bereicherung”… she’d probably bounce off, or the bus would jump out of the way in a fit of revulsion…

PeteC

Does she wear bacon around her neck by any chance???

Cuppa Covfefe

Merde-kel is paid to spout idiocy like that. But not by us in Germany – the deep state OWNS her (think Soros, the Rothschilds, and the hyper-rich, well-hidden French families).
Next year will have a number of elections that will put a crimp in her party and administration. The growth of the Greens is a problem, however, but that is a compination of fake news and election fraud (Satan Soros again), that should be rooted out…
Also worth noting is Merde-kel is through and through a Nazi, just hiding under the CDU label. She is neither Christian, nor does she support any form of Democracy… Her time in the East-German followon to the Hitler Youth left a deep impression on her, which still colors her entire existence…

Sylvia Avery

Wow. Those Germans. They can’t kick Angela’s large posterior to the curb quickly enough to suit me.

scott467

Must?
Really?
That is a direct attack on the People of every Western nation. It is an act of Treason against the People of her own nation, and it is a declaration of war against every other nation.
And if she is going to say things like that, then we have an obligation to say things like this:
Citizens must overthrow treasonous tyrants like Angela Merkel.
Specifically Angela Merkel, and anyone who allies him or herself with her.
By whatever means is required.
That is all.

scott467

Whoops, one more thing.
Death to Tyrants.
Sic semper tyrannis.

Cuppa Covfefe

OUCH… Eye Bleach, stat…
Needs a couple of those warning shields:
WIDE LOAD
and
HAZADARDOUS MATERIALS

Cuppa Covfefe

Or, as my nephew says,
ON DA HOOF!!!

Sylvia Avery

I’m linking another SD article from over there. This one is about Nancy Pelosi appointing some DOJ corrupt coup plotter who has escaped the net so far and apparently retired. He will be the Commie’s legal counsel to lead them in impeaching PDJT.
I will enjoy watching him get hauled off in handcuffs. TBH, I’d enjoy the heck out of watching Nancy do the perp walk.
https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/19678796/posts/158254

PeteC

Geez, Sylvia, the Kabuki Theatre is going to have many episodes in 2019!!!

Sylvia Avery

Okay! I’ll try to enjoy the ride!

Sylvia Avery

I’d better start dieting now, then. I need to be lean and mean so I can eat lots of popcorn. With butter. And salt. And possibly an occasional M&M (because what is salty without sweet?).

CHI->AZ : Improvise, Adapt and Overcome

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wheatietoo

Our Naval firepower has quietly been brought home?
Maybe this has to do with Pres Trump meeting at the VP’s residence?
It is the Naval Observatory, after all.

wheatietoo

Maybe this will show up better this way:comment image
.
This is more detailed info on it:
http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html?fbclid=IwAR1WWeI5VMRWdecCdqWSlUqaBsxWXtjpeke4wvRMQxwzTl99nQzfOwnTpOQ

wheatietoo

Q said…”Watch the water.”
Could this be what he was referring to?

wheatietoo

It’s interesting that CVN-78 Gerald R Ford is at Norfolk, VA…
That is that brand new ‘Super Carrier’ that Pres Trump christened.
It has all sorts of new toys and capabilities.
It can provide WiFi service for a large area in proximity to it.

rf121

Stennis is in the Persian Gulf area. It is unusual to have so many home. Normally at least one in the Med.

Sauce

It would be interesting to see what took place in previous years over the holidays with carrier task forces

wheatietoo

I have never heard of bringing carrier groups home for the holidays.
Once they’re deployed and at sea…they stay there, no matter how many holidays happen during the deployment.

Sauce

True, actually being in US ports does seem highly unusual as to other ports of call.

Marica

wheetie–Son deployed though the holidays–3 years ago— Was VERY hard! On the coast of Yemen…

wheatietoo

Please thank him for us, for his service, Marica.
And yeah…it’s not normal to bring carrier groups home “for the holidays”, is it.

Marica

Thanks wheetie. I will..Hugs

Sylvia Avery

Nope.

Marica

Wolfie– You have Always looked through the looking glass with a PLAN Always!! IT doesn’t even have to involve Q or The Great Wakening or The Storm or the Big Ugly! You get IT! More than anyone on the internet… Love you darlin!

Marica

I am with you! I don’t know what you do–However–Watching Our POTUS and his tweets, His interaction with random pressers, his surprise visits, his upbeat ATTITUDE! ALL.THE.TIME. He has GOT this!! And Q is real! If not…I don’t care! Q Woke us UP!!! and that what other places are missing!! BIG TIME!!

sunnydaysall

“You have more than you know.” ~ Q

NYGuy54

exactly…the meeting at the Naval Observatory is probably planning next steps…
Just in time for the blood red wolf moon I think……

Cuppa Covfefe

Thinking out loud here – who manages/owns/runs most of our ports now (or so it seems)… could we be on the verge of taking them back, perhaps with a tad of “persuasion”?
Especially with the Panda having its nose in so many impoverished countries, taking infrastructure and/or resources in exchange for cash…

wheatietoo

Someone posted this clip in that twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/arthworth/status/1078606802340634624

PeteC

Any way this is a direct energy beam? Looks like it’s coming from above down to the ground?

wheatietoo

That’s what it looks like, doesn’t it.
There is no info given about the video, though.
I don’t know where or when, it was recorded.
It doesn’t look fake to me.
I could be wrong…but it looks like actual footage of this, whatever this is.

Cuppa Covfefe

Person of Ghost’s tweet (replies) said the vertical line is lens flare. I’ve seen that too (unfortunately). That’s why many photogs have those fancy hoods on their lenses… Depending on the type of laser, the beam is often invisible… except at the target 🙂

NYGuy54

That was an EMP test. Holy cow it just came to me.

scott467

Oh yeah, that’s completely normal.
If I had a nickel for every time I’ve seen a power plant get struck by a beam from the sky, lighting up the entire city with a blue glow…
Well, I’d have a nickel.

Sylvia Avery

Yeah, this is a a first for me….

PeteC

Lol, Scott!!! Well, a nickel used to go a long way—waaaayy before our time!

NYGuy54

Wheatie..any way to track troop movements? What you are posting is a very big deal….

wheatietoo

Troop movement info is usually *very* classified.
So tracking it is pretty much dependent on civilian observations.

wheatietoo

Most definitely, Wolfie.
And Potus sends Flotus and Barron to Mar A Lago.

Linda

That’s a big one right there. Something is definitely being prepared to happen very soon.

NYGuy54

I am beginning to think the House members digging into spygate were just being used for awareness building..that’s all. The real action was away from them…like wolf says

Gil

My neurons arent as fast as yours…but the huber thing, i get that and sun tzu and Machiavelli are at play.

Linda

And keep in mind that Q strongly hinted that there was a SECOND special investigator out there along with Huber. At this point, we don’t even know who it is.

Sylvia Avery

Yes!!! That’s where I finally ended up, as well. Their purpose has been served.

Roberta

That’s it. That’s what I asked about earlier…as in how to locate that anon on 8chan. any help?

Emeraldstar

I located it a little while ago – and I posted it on the new thread.
I was only able to do it by using a magnifying glass to catch the 7-digit post number from the tweet, and then by going to the 8chans (the “Catalog” page). Once there, it was a bit of hit-or-miss until I found the right “bread” which contained that post number.
One of the rules, btw, of 8chan is that one should NEVER link to any post. Copy the contents of a post, and post elsewhere, fine. But no direct links.
The site itself is (remove brackets) [https:]//8ch.net/patriotsfight.html . Once one goes there, READ the instructions, and then toward the bottom just click on the “Catalog” link.
This will take one to a page filled with small icons. Many of these are sequentially numbered, and the most recent bread has the largest number (4 digits, right now). But there are others, not numbered, which are usually topic-specific. Click on the image, at the top of one of the “postage-stamp” sized numbered icons, and in a few secs one will be at the top of that bread / thread (each contains 750 posts, I believe).
Btw, the shills / clowns are there in DROVES today – lotta divisive posts, lotta porn and racist stuff, so beware. I take it to mean that they (the enemy) know that the hammer is about to drop on them, so they are panicking something fierce.
Hope this helps!

Sylvia Avery

God bless you, Emeraldstar. Appreciate your post so much.

Gudthots

Hey EmeraldStar, I tried going to the link you provided and it’s yielding a 404 error – page not found. Is something up?

Emeraldstar

Hey TTT –
That was my mistake! I confused the research board with the Q board itself.
Here’s the link (I just went there):
https://8ch.net/qresearch/welcome.html

Gudthots

THAT link works!

Emeraldstar

And, here’s the Q-post itself. Geez, I think I left out the “catalog” part.
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 69b90b No.2994981 📁
Sep 12 2018 16:21:05 (EST)
>>2994458
https://8ch.net/patriotsfight/catalog.html📁
Main points of interest only.
It will serve as the main hub of all communications once all other sites ‘tracking’ collapse [8ch only].
What part of another wave of attacks coming [yesterday] wasn’t understood?
This is not a game.
Q

Gudthots

That catalog page yields a 404 as well.

Emeraldstar

I copied the Q-post exactly …
There’s something weird going on, not sure. I get the 404 error, too.
For now, the link that worked gets to all the 8chan info we need.

Sylvia Avery

I had no idea. Last I heard most if not all our carrier groups were deployed. I did not know they were almost all back home. That seems most unusual given the state of unrest around the world.

wheatietoo

Yeah, Syl…most unusual.
Maybe they brought them back to change out all those Chinese ‘spy chips’ that HusseinO allowed to be installed in our fleet.
I dunno.
But then, seems like that could be done by sending crews out to the ships…without bringing them all back.

Sylvia Avery

That could be. Sounds plausible. Or that they were wanted here at home for some reason. Again, I can’t fathom what or why, and it annoys me to no end feeling like I only get the barest outline of the story or hint of what might be happening. Enough to make you think there’s a lot more to the story, but never enough to have a rudimentary idea of what that might be.

Cuppa Covfefe

That entire thread is interesting. The “Ghost” with the most… Watch out for lens flare, though…

sunnydaysall

Go Q!!!
If you do not want to watch the whole opening sequence you can start at 2:48!! Go Q!! 🙂
ROLL TIDE Graham 2
Published on Dec 9, 2018
WWG1WGA
https://youtu.be/AicrjBzDOu8

wheatietoo

I remember seeing this video, embedded in a tweet, on the day of the big game.
Thank you, thank you, Sunnydays…for posting it!
Yeah, she *definitely* says…”Go Q!”
Love it!

Roberta

Safe for tonight?
POTUS_Schedule
🇺🇸‏
‏ @POTUS_Schedule
1h1 hour ago
Friday, 28 December 2018
21:38:26 #POTUS #Motorcade Departure – the Naval Observatory – VP residence en route the #WhiteHouse
21:52:11 Arrival – Residence secure zone
21:50 No additional #POTUS travel outside the #WhiteHouse secure area is expected today or tonight.

judyw

Blue Sky Memo was a document authored by the CIA
https://twitter.com/gangweedprodz/status/1078814454425505792

judyw

Hmm…if you click on the image you get the thread….