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Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Twelve Titans Music, titled ‘Elevate’:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gov1OVHuVDI&w=640&h=360]

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Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful:
Header Image: Is a gigantic Tree, sitting on a hill in the middle of a group of buildings and homes. The Tree reaches up into the sky, it’s branches forming an enormous canopy. Underneath the canopy, there is a bright glow shining up from within the Tree. The canopy of the tree stretches out over all the structures below.
Second Image: Is a rounded doorway at the top of a stone stairway, built into the base of an enormous Tree. The doors are glass and there is a bright glow coming from beyond the doors. There are plants, vines and vegetation on either side of the stone steps.
Third Image: Is an open room with comfy-looking futons, a fluffy throw rug and large throw pillows on a gleaming wooden floor. There are glowing lanterns positioned around on the floor.
Fourth Image: Is President Trump walking outdoors, with two secret service agents behind him. He is holding up his left arm out to his side, giving a wave with his hand.

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Gudthots

Beautiful Wheatie. 🙂
Have a blessed day!comment image

Gudthots

I’m not sure what happened to that image.
Maybe Gab is blocking access to their images?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah – that’s very interesting! It’s like it disappeared. Makes me wonder if the original Gab post is still there, or got edited.

Gudthots

Here’s a different image for you.comment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – I’ve really been thinking about each of those. We have to prepare. It’s gonna get rough.

Marica

Damn,,like this?comment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA!
More like this:comment imagecomment imagecomment image
With the left making fun of their own CRIMES like this:comment image

Cuppa Covfefe

Or this? 😀

Cuppa Covfefe

Actually, THIS is even better. Sound, production, staging, etc. is much better, as is the video quality. From a performance in France.
If ONLY the French were as aggresive and strong versus the Mozzies are they are when dancing to disco tunes, they would be facing their current invasion…
Carl Douglas – Kung Fu Fighting – Live dans Les Années Bonheur

kea

Great post wheatie!

smiley2

wheatie…hope you’re feeling better. 🙂

smiley2

fever gone = on the mend
drink tea honey lemon,,, chick broth (homemade) w/ hot peppers (vitamin C) (Habanero, without the seeds)
GetWellSoon 🙂

kalbokalbs

Wheatie, Great tribute to Apollo 11. The meme of the astronaut slugging the martian caught me off guard…100% LOLF. Wife looked at me like I was losing it;-)
Cup a covfefe relaxing in your tree house reading Q Tree;-)

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, that GIF is hilarious! Making good-natured fun of Americans! I love it!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes -I kinda felt like it did, too!

carolweekleylmt

I thoroughly enjoyed that. Go Buzz!

kinthenorthwest

TY Wheatie—A year ago I got the chance to go to NASA is Houston.
It was such an interesting awe inspiring place. Having lived through much of it, there were time I was in tears with pride for what our country had accomplished, along with the patriotism that NASA stood for with in our country.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s not Mars…there’s some big planet in the sky.
It’s even better–our astronaut is on a planet in another solar system!

kinthenorthwest

Believe with Mario, that in the end run the Democrats are literally destroying their party by standing up for these 4 women.
Great post and very good read.
IS THE SQUAD A GIFT FROM GOD?
https://mariomurilloministries.wordpress.com/2019/07/19/is-the-squad-a-gift-from-god/
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1152430903517315072?s=20

Linda

I think he’s right that God is revealing who the democrats really are through the squad.
”For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, and nothing concealed that will not be known and illuminated.”
Luke 8:17

kinthenorthwest

When Mario starts writing he does an awesome job

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wow! Tlaib had picked up “hooker red” as a fashion statement from Ocankles-Cortez!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, but I want nothing to do with that hooker.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Booty is in the eye of the beholder!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

She needs to get the boot!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BOOT-EDGE-EDGE ain’t up to the job – maybe HORIZONTAL can lay down on the job for it!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

At least with Horizontal, I’d date her identical twin sister–if that sister were a Deplorable.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Even “free” is too expensive…

kinthenorthwest

Oh my LOL

bakocarl

Are you intimating . . . The God Squad? Nah!

daughnworks247

Great idea to salute NASA.
Look forward to Wheatie’s Trees all week long.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Love this musical selection, but it SOUNDS very familiar. Was this in a big movie?

olderwiser21

I got the images ok but no sound. Shoot! Anyway, love the astronaut punching the moon man. So funny!

olderwiser21

no…just still images

GA/FL

Looks like Twelve Titans does movie music.
Their site won’t completely open on my old fav. computer:
http://www.twelvetitansmusic.com

kinthenorthwest

While I have been working and busy with some of my Volunteer work, I haven’t been around here.
Mario has been on a roll though and wow.
This one on Illegals and Democrats says so much. As Mario said “–Today Democrats have shifted from legal immigration to open defiance of Federal Law.”
My greatest shock
Posted on July 17, 2019 by mariomurilloministries
https://mariomurilloministries.wordpress.com/2019/07/17/my-greatest-shock/
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1152434388644220928?s=20

Cuppa Covfefe

Same as the “church” over here, in particular the “Church” of England, and the “EKD” (Evangelical Church of Deutschland”, both of who have sold their souls to the “god” of political correctness, that is to say, Belial, which is to say, Satan.
It’s no long a church. And it’s fading fast. The independent Free Evangelical churches are growing by leaps and bounds. Unfortunately, the “nature religions” (read: GAIA and the Greens, led by “Saint Greta the Greenhearted”) and the Mozzies are growing as well led by the massive influx of incredibly fit, single, military-aged misanthropic Moslem males…
Where is our CHARLES MARTEL???
Where is our “Vlad the Impaler”???
Where are our CRUSADERS???
Crickets…
Or?????

kinthenorthwest

I do what I can for the country I love…Not easy anymore… But I will die trying.

Cuppa Covfefe

GOD Bless you. It breaks my heart to see what’s happened to “the left coast”. Ironically, my son and I are “Native Californians” (when so many Californians are “escapees” from elsewhere), yet we live now here in Germany…
It used to be SO NICE in California, and the entire west coast. People just don’t know how blessed they are, especialyl considering the *barf* options that landlocked places offer…
When I was a child, Yosemite was never crowded, easily accessible, and didn’t have the Hanta virii or whatever. Now, 50-60 years later, you have to book a year in advance, and there’s no telling what one could catch…
Of course, my wife feels the same about Germany. Not the same as it was in her youth. Probably the 80s and 90s were much better (because I moved over here, ha!)…

kinthenorthwest

As I have said many times, I couldn’t wait to get back to Calif after my high school graduation. Now its the last place I want to even visit.

Cuppa Covfefe

Oops. No longer.
Sausage squisher, geh weg!!!!!

phoenixRising

Beautiful tree wheatie…………..
Doubt anyone will know what I’m talking about, but surrounded by buildings, etc., it gives whole ‘nother meaning to “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn” 🙂
Get some rest… hope you’re feelin’ better very soon.
(love the Apollo flag gif !!!!!!!)

Alison

Phoenix!! I read that book in high school and loved it! Me a midwestern farm girl knowing nothing about a Jewish girl in Brooklyn 😊 And I thought the author, Marjorie Morningstar’s name was so exotic.

kea

‘Just Spoke to Kanye West’: Trump Promises to Call Swedish Prime Minister to Help Free A$AP Rocky
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/19/donald-trump-promises-to-call-swedish-prime-minister-to-help-free-aap-rocky/
Ahhhh now it makes sense. The video its ‘telling’:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzax42UnxN0/

kea

Oh that video popped up larger then I thought. Sorry!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Big is good. Pixels are dirt cheap around here!

kea

😉

NebraskaFilly

IDK who is in the right here. Why did they flee before the cops arrived?
“After Rocky and his friends fled, an ambulance and cops were dispatched to the scene. Police took statements from the witnesses at the scene.”
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.51958/title.aap-rocky-entourage-issue-swedish-beatdown#

kea

The only thing is the swedish gov will almost always protect the migrants.
You can’t say anything bad about them.

Aubergine

They fled because they were in a Muslim-loving foreign country, and they had just justifiably beat the living shit out of a Muslim.
In the video, it is clear those Muslim boys were the antagonists. They were very aggressive, and were asked repeatedly to leave. They didn’t and they got their asses handed to them.
I hope President Trump gets A$ap out of there ASAP! Also, I highly recommend that Americans stay the hell out of Europe, particularly the countries where Muslims have been allowed to take over, and are being protected at all costs. There are many great places to visit in the U.S. Word around here is there is a very nice B&B down South. 🙂

NebraskaFilly

Do we know for a fact that they were Muslims? They weren’t dressed in Muslim garb altho I know many Muslims do NOT like blacks – hell, some still sell & buy them as slaves.
I agree wholeheartedly with staying out of any EU country (Mexico as well) but, then, I’ve never traveled outside the US and don’t really have much desire to do so, altho I would love to see the Egyptians’ horses and visit some of the Egyptian naval officers I met.

Aubergine

I read in a few places they were Muslim. They had that “look” to me as well. And you are correct, Muslims don’t like blacks. But do they like anybody?

NebraskaFilly

Well, the moderates do but the rest? Nah. Just other radicals.

kea

LOL

gil00

Hope youre getting better Wheatie. You and Sylvia always seem to tag team getting sick.comment image

Cuppa Covfefe

Maybe the cat needs some, erm, chicken soup 🙂

kea

I am shocked said no one ever!!!
Journalist Travels to Ilhan Omar’s Homeland to Prove Somalia is Beautiful, Debunk ‘Stereotypes’ – Gets Killed by Islamic Terrorists
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/journalist-travels-to-ilhan-omars-homeland-to-prove-somalia-is-beautiful-debunk-stereotypes-gets-killed-by-islamic-terrorists/

Cuppa Covfefe

The first two comments (Gov Jay and Anonymous) tell the whole story:
C1: If Somalia is such a “paradise”… why did she [Canadian journalist] leave in the first place?…
C2: Her parents left Somalia because it’s a shithole, she went back to prove it’s not a shithole, but ended up getting killed because it actually is a shithole. A lot of stereotypes are stereotypes because they’re true.

Cuppa Covfefe

And, for the seriously cynical:
“She cut her carbon footprint down to zero which should make her a hero to the left.”…
Reminds me of that libtard lady who thought Polar Bears are so cute and cuddly and endangered that she decided to ignore the warnings, jump the barrier, and give the “poor” bear a hug.
He was happy with the unbidden and unexpected lunch. She, on the other hand, was consumed by her unthinking green naivety…

para59r

This one reads like an Onion Story, but ITS NOT!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/journalist-travels-to-ilhan-omars-homeland-to-prove-somalia-is-beautiful-debunk-stereotypes-gets-killed-by-islamic-terrorists/
Now the next thing to have happen is for someone to get ilhan’s comment on it.

kea

Twins!!!! 😀

Sadie Slays

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This is all I have to say about Buzz Aldrin and I’ll leave it at that.

kea

My eye went to the watch and I thought Q (ok I think I need sleep!!)

Linda

Uh-oh.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah. Of course, we don’t know the story behind the photo, or Aldrin’s use of the symbol, or what he was TOLD about it (very important).
Much of the entertainment and publishing world operates through deception. Getting people to do stuff on camera or audio tape is a real art and science, and people who know those arts and sciences GET AHEAD in that world.
There are many people who could get ALMOST any celebrity except those with a STRONG ability to refuse things to do it. After it’s done once, it’s easier the next time, too. Soon, people are comfy with their new trademark.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very interesting.
I always thought of it as the “A-OK” symbol, when held out to the outside or in front.
Remember how the left tried to make it the White Power symbol? As the result of a TROLL!!!
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1249757-ok-symbol-%F0%9F%91%8C
And then RE-TROLLED!!! 😀
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Camera shoots are very manipulative. Almost a certainty that they could get Buzz to do the “eye” version, whether he did it normally or not. This is how influence is spread inauthentically by fake news and fake entertainment.
I absolutely DO NOT TRUST magazines. They’re the WORST of the bunch. Newspapers have a different, more “event-oriented” agenda. Magazines have a PEOPLE and INFLUENCE agenda.

Teagan

As some know, I was involved with the Miss America Pageant For many years at the national level. The last several years working (herding!) with the media. I can personally attest the manipulation…and these were 18-26 year old young women “fresh from the farm” in many cases. Can’t tell you how many occasions we had to step in and nix the way things were going. And….this was in the good old days when boundaries, decorum and little hostility prevailed!
I will say it was prior to the PC crap and there was absolutely no hesitation to pull press badges, immediately!, for anyone getting out of line.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! Thank you – you’ve clearly seen it, too! In spades, I’m sure, because those young gals had to have been red meat to the wolves of the media for whatever spin they wanted.
They have a story they “want” and they try to gently and sneakily get the subject to CONFORM to that narrative – unknowingly best, knowingly acceptable, oppositionally still OK as a method of portraying the “exposure of [narrative]” having “triggered” the subject. Getting the subject to do “whatever” by means of the “just do this and you’re famous” implication is omnipresent. The LIE of getting the subject to state what will knowingly be edited out, to catch a small nugget of anti-purpose, always in operation.
I am sure that our VSG has dealt with smarmy lesser minds trying to pull this crap for DECADES, and is actually letting out YEARS of “rolled eyes” when he mocks and taunts the “fake news” now.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. EXACTLY.
It really grinds my grits what the Satanic left have done with the A-OK sign, which I grew up knowing from the space program and the “right stuff” things coming out of the military.
To paraphrase Opus, from Bloom County by Berke Breathed, what they have now is “The Weird Stuff”.
Ironic to think that a left-leaning cartoonist in the 70s-80s would give a favorable nod to the heroes of the space program… but he did… (and I still have my stuffed Opus… and it’s not for sale 🙂 )… (nor is the IKEA stuffed allen wrench).
Having said that, I’m told that the A-OK sign is an obscenity in some Middle-Eastern cultures (figures)…
(Reply might be… waving fingers up and down, with one being prominently displayed… “Tell me when to stop”…or, Scout hand sign…. “read between the lines”…)
The enemdia have left their founding purpose of REPORTING THE NEWS, with no bias, no color, no opinion, nor judgement, since at least the 1950s. When the TV news started getting Nielsen Ratings in the mid 1960s, all bets were off. Huntley and Brinkley made a joint editorial about it, in protest, as they knew (as did their gutless colleagues, who said nothing [HEY WALTER; I’M LOOKING AT YOU!!!]. Chet Huntley retired to “The Big Sky Country” of Montana shortly thereafter, but David Brinkley soldiers on for a few more years, doing the nightly news, and then special reports, but “the spell had been broken”. Nothing in the news was ever the same since then.
Oddly enough, only a few short years later, Woodward and Bernstein became the hereos of the new world, and the patron saints of (mudslinging) “investigative journalism”.
And it’s been downhill ever since. I hope and pray that “Citizen Journalism”, like what we have here in your great QTreeHouse, takes over and flushes out the detritus of the Satanic YSM/MCM enemedia foisted upon us by the globalists and illuminati.
Information is power. It’s time WE THE PEOPLE took it back!!!!!
(Marica, to quote that famous character on Popeye, I will gladly pay wou Tuesday for a bunch of exclamation points to-day 🙂 )…

kea

I was going to say it looks like a ‘“Okay”gesture or a spy glass?

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep, it’s the “A-OK” sign that most people don’t remember anymore (or were’t born yet, to see). Those of us “Kruftis” who WERE around then know instantly. We always used that sign with our friends, our classmates, parents, and anyone we wanted to know that things were OK.
The sign lives on in Motorsports, where after an accident (or whatever) the driver in question wriggles out of what is left of the car, and gives the A-OK signal, or baseball, where the outfielder (or occasionally infielder), after making a diving, rolling catch, where it’s not certain he held on, gets up, turns around, and gives the A-OK sign, with the ball clearly in the glove…
Leave it to the DEMONcRATs to turn an innocuous, helpful sign into a problem.
Maybe someone should dump some Tabasco into their soy milk. Might wake up their sodden brains…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Eilert

HMMM!!
Written by one “Isaac Weishaupt”.
I do not know if he is part of the family, but the founder of the modern (Bavarian) Illuminati is “Adam Weishaupt”. It was founded on 1. May 1776 (the real reason why 1. May is celebrated as Workers Day world wide, except in the US).
https://sagaciousnewsnetwork.com/adam-weishaupt-founder-of-the-bavarian-illuminati-and-the-nwo-utopian-globalism/
From the above article:

Adam felt that human society had grown hopelessly corrupt and that it could only be saved by a complete overhaul. In effect, he was the first utopian to think on a global scale(3), and he looked forward to the day his group would bring about the Novus Ordo Seclorum, sometimes called the New World Order. The Illuminati had five goals, including:
“(a) Abolition of monarchies and all ordered governments,
(b) Abolition of private property and inheritances,
(c) Abolition of patriotism and nationalism,
(d) Abolition of family life and the institution of marriage, and the establishment of communal education of children,
(e) Abolition of all religion.”

“Brilliant and well trained by the Jesuits in the conspiratorial methods of access to power, young Weishaupt decided to organize a body of conspirators, determined to free the world from the Jesuitical rule of Rome and help humanity back to the pristine Christian faith of the hermetic martyrs. He is reputed to have been initiated by a German merchant named Kolmer, he had spent many years in Egypt, into a secret doctrine based on Manichaeism.
Mayday of 1776, Weishaupt founded his own sect of the Very Perfectibles – better known as the Illuminati – with five original members, self-described as reformist libertarians, partisans of absolute equality.” – Peter Tompkins, ‘The Magic of Obelisks’ https://amzn.to/2OLUoLr
….
It is said that Karl Marx is not the originator of ‘Communism’, but plagiarised his ‘Communist Manifesto’ from this man.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The author’s name is almost certainly a pseudonym, IMO, although that’s not an informed opinion, having read only this article on the site!

kea

I just have to rant for a second. Ok so its Hollywood so I’m not shocked they did this.
There was a show a long time ago called Veronica Mars well HULU brought it back. Now I saw a lot of people who were/are fans of the show asking ‘how anti Trump will the show get.’ I mean if you want to watch a show or movie and that’s one of your first questions you know its bad. (this was a show that did an anti Trump comment when the apprentice show was still on???)
Now I’m not going to link the article unless you beg me but when they write this: “The inevitable sotto voce Trump dig (at Dick’s dad, president of NUTT, or Neptune United for a Tidy Town) is the best one I’ve seen on any show: short, funny, and plot-relevant. “How the hell did we let a crooked real-estate tycoon come in and seduce us into longing for a bygone era?””
Yes… very…funny…. Glad I read that I can skip the show now!
You know what I’m not going to get mad because at the end of the day Trump is POTUS and all they have is a stupid comment like this.
FYI the show was hoping to be the next Murder she wrote. News flash: jessica fletcher never jumped into politics. 🙂
Now I’ve got to find something else to watch. Anyone have a good old TV show suggestion? I’m running low on stuff to watch! 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

So glad I gave up FAKE ENTERTAINMENT along with FAKE NEWS! 😉

NebraskaFilly

Personally, I lean towards The Waltons and Little House…..but that’s just me. LOL

kea

I will put those on my list! 🙂

Aubergine

I love the Waltons. It reminds me so much of my childhood.

kalbokalbs

Consider skipping cable, Direct, Dish, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon…
Try an antenna. $30. Use my old DirectTV bracket to mount the antenna on the house eave. Works well for me. Search on the Internet for what direction to orient the antenna. NOTHING like the days of rabbit ears:-)
Initially used in Ridgecrest, CA / Mojave Desert. Fifteen channels or so.
Now Dayton, Northern NV. Again fifteen + channels.
Most channels clear as a bell. Most, if not all HD. Yea HD. I think law says they must broadcast HD.
Lots of old shows. Lots of Westerns.
Between the antenna and Internet, I get everything I need.
No endless flipping channels…thinking…dang….nothing good on. Flip fifteen channels and conclude, nothing on;-)
Best of all, NO monthly cable, direct, Dish, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon bills;-)

kea

Good advice. 🙂
I used to have netflix but cut it long ago (thank goodness). I have an antenna but almost never used it. I just kind of started just going to my library and renting the DVDs. I know they are going to by them anyway and my taxes pay for the library.

Alison

Wheatie, you are a real trooper throwing up such a great (wolf)MOONWalk post to celebrate one giant leap for mankind when you’re feeling like the dark side of the moon yourself! I hope your coughing ceases soon and you’re back to full energy levels. 💖
Wolfie and Daughn – i hope readers will check the last page of yesterday’s thread for your comments. Daughn had great comments about the Trump-effect on the energy markets in the face of Iran provocations. Also For God & Country posted an informative piece – separate post – with context about Iran’s moves.
Wolfie had some thought-provoking comments on political crimes and criminal politicians that shouldn’t be missed (I’m still digesting those comments, so reading him is better than me paraphrasing.)
OT, I often felt like I was in SD’s class, and grateful to be there. Here in the Den I feel more like I am a subscriber to a very sophisticated (but often funny as all git out) think tank. You guys (moon) rock 😍🐺💥

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks for the mentions for me and others!
Yes – this place IS a think-tank. In some ways, it’s better:
– we’re out in the open
– we’re more varied than a normal think tank
– we’re more “regular folks” than a normal think tank
– we’re almost* completely untainted by fame and fortune
– we’re not here for the money
– we’re unconstrained by any boards or other “pinchable” assets
– we’re not subject to media influence
– we’re more or less anonymous, or at least freer to speak than most
‘ we’re a lot more egalitarian in our organization and structure
– even the platform – posts versus comments – is ALMOST THE SAME
We have a very good thing here.
MOON ROCK! I agree!!!
[* = one of our authors is very obviously familiar with a lot of movers and shakers, but some of the others have had interesting lives as well, though less out in the open, more behind the scenes. All in all, though, I think we’ve escaped the plagues that accompany fame, fortune, and power.]

Tonawanda

For all these reasons we are (IMO) used as a unique focus group. No other site like it.

piper567

I would very much like this group to comment on the following:
Several days ago, a close friend was contacted by her Insurance Co.,with whom she has had auto and home insurance for decades, together with a Credit card.
They told her that they were authorized and compelled to gather personal financial information per the “New Patriot Act”. The first question they asked was what her household income is.
After a predictable back-and-forth, in which she requested to opt out, she was told folks cannot opt out.
She ended the conversation.
The next morning she called her insurance company to report this scam, and was told this is not a scam.
After a lengthy conversation re how her non-compliance would affect her long-standing policies, and questions about options, etc., she stated she would have to think ab this.
Really?
Her last name starts with “A”, so we are thinking this event is in it’s initial stages of implementation.
I would Really Appreciate any comments on/responses to this eerie event.
And if I may, could you address them to me in your comments, so the notification will be triggered?
I SO appreciate/anticipate your input.

Tonawanda

I will not go into detail, but I have very recently been on the receiving end of a similar bizarre interaction with corporate America.

Sadie Slays

I have an insurance policy up for renewal this month and decided to shop around. I was talking to insurance companies as recently as last week. I did not encounter any unexpected problems or anything like you described in your comment. I’d assume if there was some new regulation like this that they would try to hammer it out now before the policy renews. Tell your friend to start shopping around.

Sadie Slays

Also, I just re-read your post and noticed the “together with a Credit card” part. I wonder if it’s the credit card that’s causing the issue (as opposed to just plain old insurance).

piper567

Sadie…no.
I mentioned the credit card, bc the Insurance Co. said this was part of tracking irregularities in credit/banking activity…y’know, for terrorists activity algorithms. And my friend had put 12K on card, and then pd it off the same week…was concerned, for obvious reasons.

para59r

Had an almost similar instance with one of my long standing banks that also does my car insurance. I received a call that that I needed to fill out a W9 form for tax certification. Answers only required yes’s and no’s, with no other disclosures like monies earned. Felt uncomfortable with it and called the bank and reported it thinking it was also a scam but they said I was required to send the information to them. However I’d never been asked for that information before and neither of my other two banks have yet to ask for that information. I thought it all rather strange, especially since the IRS has that information anyways.

kalbokalbs

Have scrolled though and saw many of the comments. My thoughts….
Being the interaction initriated by a call from Insurance company. I’d end the converastion and call them on a number I already have. Not a number from the “cold caller”.
Had a recent query from USAA to complete a W-9. Notified by email. Thought it weird. Used my regular link to access USAA. W-9 required. Update I think they said. Non invasive. Yes, No… No income questions. I commonly low ball income questions when they are required. Generally not concerned with credit card limits. Credit cards work for me and balances paid off every month.
NFCU has not pinged me on the W-9.
As Patriot Act invoked, more spying of some sort on innocent citizens. Nothing good can come of it.
Patriot Act needs to be abolished.

ladypenquin

Alison, I think it’s because the type of people who like Q-Tree, want to participate in discussions – everyone here brings their own knowledge, analysis, perspective, and approach – we want to add to the knowledge pool. It isn’t much fun sitting in a lecture hall – the best part is the back and forth.
It’s good to have multiple gurus and smart folks. 🙂

daughnworks247

Perfect way to describe it Alison, “I feel more like I am a subscriber to a very sophisticated (but often funny as all git out) think tank.”, I feel the same way.
SD’s “class was terrific and worthwhile”. We learned so much.
Here, we are much more collaborative.

BAM

Really like!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hilarious! I love it! With that WHINEY WOLF [Blister] in the background! 😀

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff! Thanks for that insight.
It’s very clear why FAKE ENTERTAINMENT is what it is. CHI-PROP, COM-PROP, and GLOBO-PROP.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Somebody needs to make a massively funny send-up of Hollywood that roasts the ChiCom invasion with no holds barred, and ZERO budget or ChiCom funding, plus excellent security to prevent ChiCom sabotage. Make a TON OF MONEY. Then plow some back into MOAR.

piper567

wheatie, making it even more evident they are but another arm of msm Pravda.
These propaganda arms will continue to spew independently of their lack of profit.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump baited them all out.

singingsoul1

Merke Kuh does not condemn anti – Semitism she shows her typical communist upbringing.

Cuppa Covfefe

I call her Merde-Kuh … Merde being French for, erm, excrement…
(A little side note here. When I first moved over here, on my first day at my new office, it was drizzling. Being half-English, I said, “oh, it’s misting outside”. A colleague rushed up and said, “this I’ve GOT TO SEE!”… Little did I know (then) what MIST was, in German. Just like GIFT is not something you’d give to someone here as a present. Same spelling, VERY different meaning…)…
Angie is on her last legs, politically, and the “not-so-young” bucks are starting to take over. And they are openly Green, as opposed to her, who lived the Green agenda while ignoring the “C” in CDU.
I honestly believe she was brought in to destroy what little was left of Germany. Gerhard Schröder (and his BFF Jürgen Trittin of the paedo Greens) was our Øbozo. Merde-Kuh has been our Hill-the-BEAST.
She doesn’t have to worry about being stabbed or raped like most normal German women do: no one in their right (or even wrong or disturbed) mind would want to go near her, let alone touch her.
And therein lies the problem.
The EUROCRATS face NO CONSEQUENCES WHATSOEVER FOR THEIR ACTIONS (OR LACK THEREOF)!!!
TO “the barricades” we must go. But, is anyone willing, or able???

singingsoul1

Ah I stole the Merde – Kuh from you 🙂 The words stuck just not who posted it.
Germany has been screwed up for a while maybe always.
“Eurocrats” in there lies the problem.
Thank you for your informative post. I have relatives who are screwed up because they belong not to the common people and that is another problem the division of class.
I am the eccentric of the family and the most balanced when I listen to the rest.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Americans don’t understand so much, and don’t have (thank GOD) a landed aristocracy, not the 100-year mortgages and land grants of the British (which my Pop explained to me, painstakingly, so many years ago).
To most (non German) folks, “zu Guttenberg” or “von der Leyen” are just a couple of long names with some superfluous prepostitions stuck in-between. To those who know, there is an “Adel” background there. Royal blood, “special” people.
I’m supposedly a descendant of William the Conqueror.
Trouble is: half of the rest of the world is, too.
I went to Uni with one of the illuminati (won’t describe it any further for I don’t want to doxx him or me). His “allowance” would have paid my tuition, room, board, car, and pretty much all I could think of. But that wasn’t enough. He was a pilferer. Probably just for sport. Still, when you have everything, what is there left to obtain???
(Of course, the only answer to that is: SALVATION through the LORD Jesus Christ. But that, sadly, if usually not on their “menu”…).
Most countries have a pronounced class or caste system. The USA is unusual in that hard work, results, and living “The American Way” determine (for the most part) one’s position in society. We have no idea how blessed we are that it is that way…

smiley2

leader of the pack….
http://thejewishvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Editorial-Rep-Ilhan-Omar-article-pic-1.jpg
…is a chain migrant <b<fraud …
Mass Fraud By African Refugees Halted Inflow After Ilhan Omar Came To U.S.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/19/mass-fraud-by-african-refugees-halted-inflow-after-ilhan-omar-came-to-u-s/
July 19, 2019
there a was mass fraud among the many thousands of applicants…so…the refugee program allowing foreign relatives of already-arrived foreign refugees was halted…more than a decade ago.
recently, David Steinberg (Powerline) suggested that Omar committed immigration fraud by falsely entering the U.S. as a member of the “Omar” family who had already arrived…and that she entered as a “third priority” (P-3) refugee— a refugee who was admitted because of her ties to an already-arrived refugee family…back in the mid 1990s.
the Bush admin halted that program in 2008 b/c of all the “thousands” of P-3 status claims…and the massive fraud directly involved w/ those claims..
about 87% of those claims turned out to be fraudulent.
Ilhan Omar is part of that…
revoke her fraudulent citizenship and send her back ! …or kick her out !
and… out of Congress !
immigration fraud
tax fraud
possible…incest ??
perjury ?? (August 10, 2017)
David Steinberg….Powerline article…from July 18, 2019 :
Tying Up Loose Ends In The Curious Case…
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php?fbclid=IwAR13YPz53HvlS3CP41LejHPjSTlvBWIBI_efHRoPH7luflwVWy2oYolrtxc

smiley2

sorry…I hate those typos <b< 🙁

Concerned Virginian

Her REAL name is ILHAN “OMAR” ELMI.
She married her BROTHER, AHMED SAID ELMI, to help him get a Green Card (he was living in England).
She committed MARRIAGE FRAUD by doing this AND the laws of the United States by marrying her brother (committing incest).
If her already-existing children lived in the same house with her AND Ahmed Said Elmi during their “marriage”, BOTH “Omar” Elmi and Ahmed Said Elmo must be charged with CHILD ABUSE (the children lived in an incestuous household).
She committed FELONY PERJURY when she signed a divorce petition against Ahmed Said Elmi in August 2017, stating that she could not locate him and had had no contact with him for several years — there are photos in the Steinberg article showing them together in London in 2015.
She committed probable FELONY TAX FRAUD violations during her “marriage” to Ahmed Said Elmi and/or with her then-boyfriend-now-husband, HIRSI, who is also the father of her children.

duchess01

Verse of the Day

“Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.”
1 John 4:11 (KJV)

duchess01

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duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered

GA/FL

🎵 Oh say does that 🇺🇸 Star Spangled Banner yet wave?
In the dust of the Moon,
O’er the land of the brave!!!….
🎵

GA/FL

Seriously, is the flag still there after all those years?

GA/FL

I had forgotten there was more than one….oh dear.

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, the flag on the moon. I thought you were referring to the one that flew over Fort McHenry. That one is disintegrating from the gunpowder while it is on display in the Smithsonian. At least, that’s what they tell us is eating it.

GA/FL

Star Spangled Banner – Super Bowl* – Renee Fleming!

*(pre-Kapaernick stupidity)

Deplorable Patriot

Great, beloved lady.

grandmaintexas

International Boundary and Water Commission (IBWC) is a UN-like agency that is hindering border wall construction:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/pedro-gonzalez-border-wall-along-us-mexico-border-nixed-by-a-water-commission

Deplorable Patriot

I read and wrote about this in the last couple months. This information is being suppressed, and it is maddening.

Cuppa Covfefe

WAAAAAIIIIDDDAMINNIIIIITTTTT…
We report to NO INTERNATIONAL AUTHORITIES.
We are a soverign state.
The UN and all of its Satanic brood can go sod off.

grandmaintexas

Dammit to Hell!!!!

pgroup

Obviously Soviet cosmonauts put them there since Americans never to the moon. Ask Bernie; he knows all about it.

pgroup

… never GOT to the moon.

michaelh

The propagation of the phony story that the moon landings are a “myth” or “staged” is an incredible piece destructive psy-ops that ranks right up there with the propagation of the flat earth myth as a triumph of modern disinformation campaigns.
Ironically the Soviets never called out the Americans for not landing on the moon. You know full well that isn’t the Soviet way, to let something like that slip…
…but they were more than happy to stoke the flames of an underground conspiracies that undermined confidence in the United States government. The moon landing in July 1969 was smack in the middle of one of the most inflamed periods of civilian targeted psy-ops in American history – 1968, during the election cycle, was a year where the MCM had No Good News, every news story was about the fabric of American civil life unravelling at every seam. It was calculated. The only blip in the 1968 news radar was Apollo 10. It was more than the masters of agitprop could bear…
Thus was born the “Americans didn’t land on the moon” disinformation campaign. One version of the story even blames the CIA for building the sound stages and sets for the grainy recordings. I can just imagine those CIAKGB people laughing all the way to the bank on that little gem. Conspiracy theories about the CIA are simply magical pieces of disinformation – it’s far too easy for a campaign to add in the CIA as a convenient boogey man. Why not? It makes anyone who is suspicious of the organization seem like a complete crank obsessed with – guess what? – UFOs and faking the moon landings!

Cuppa Covfefe

Another, rarely-discussed fact is, a German radio amateur (oops, HAM) and faint-signal (DX-ing) geek picked up the signals between Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins while they were on the moon. When the Command Module went into radio silence, Collins’s signal did too, but not Armstrong and Aldrin.
I have to look it up (and it’s all in German), but it IS another confirmation, as this fellow certainly wouldn’t be able to pick up a studio in Hollywood or New Mexico, no matter how good his kit was…..
Funny thing, too, how quick the MCM are to make excuses for Russia in the “space race”… Seems like they are saying the only reason we won, is that they lost (and, by inference, allowed us to win).
Pretty obvious who owns the YSM/MCM/Demon media, isn’t it…

Deplorable Patriot

One of my favorite Big Bang Theory episodes they did this.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I can think of an alternative explanation that would be plausible–that the reflector is on an unmanned spacecraft that we sent there in lieu of astronauts. Technically, that’s a much easier thing to do. So if you don’t believe in a flat earth, but DO believe Apollo was a fraud, you could argue this, and at least I wouldn’t be disgusted with your utter ignorance of science, even though I do believe we went there. It’s something a deceptive NASA could have done, given the universe is the way it is, if they were to realize, “Hey, guys, we just can’t do this.”
With respect to flat earth, though, it’s a non-starter. If flat earth is true, we could never have put any spacecraft into orbit, much less onto the moon. Our understanding of physics would be just totally wrong.

Big T

Good morning and BUCKLE UP.
Margot Cleveland is a writer for the Federalist and others a former 25-year “permanent” law clerk to a federal appeals judge, a law professor at Notre Dame and the mother of a 9 year-old boy with cystic fibrosis. She has become a good online friend over the past 2 years and we exchange legal and personal messages regularly. She is a tenacious researcher (“dog-with-squirrel-in-mouth”), logical, principled, unbiased and very smart. I imagine she and Sydney Powell together could run the world before breakfast and then make Tavern-on-the-Green worthy eggs benedict blindfolded.
Here is her article this morning about Michael Flynn. She has dogged this topic from day one, as has my b’loved (who will have much to say shortly). Margo accompanied the article on publication with a lengthy twitter thread: @ProfMJCleveland which provides more context to the implications of her conclusions. I am still digesting; will write much more as I organize thoughts and drink coffee. Remembering that Margot is as low-key as an IRS auditor, her last twitter comment is “our press should be screaming mad! I know I am!!! But no, Orange Man Bad.”
Margot believes she has demonstrated that:
Latest Development In Flynn Case Proves Special Counsel Was A Cover For Taking Down Trump
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/19/latest-development-flynn-case-proves-special-counsel-cover-operation-taking-trump/
I could not wait to read and digest sas y’all need to be reading and digesting as well. I knew when Flynn finally got rid of Covington & Burling a lot would fall from the trees – but not this kind of treachery!!!

churchmouse

Thank you for the link. Great article.

daughnworks247

This is a really big deal.
It’s Saturday, I want to play with the NASA stuff, but this made me stop cold.
Covington and Burling, the attorneys for Flynn, were in on the scam.
It’s unforgivable.
Imagine where we would be if we still had FLYNN……… he knew where all the bodies were buried.

Big T

I am not sure that even Professor Cleveland realizes the full implications of her outstanding research. Often a granular, focused researcher such as she gets “forest-for-trees” syndrome. I will be posting a discussion of the legal and ethical implications of this incredible breach and misuse of the lawyer-client relationship. As a tease, I first heard about just how political, amoral and ethically-challenged Covington and Burling was in 1981-82 when I was a law clerk for the chief judge of the USDC in Boston. One of our co-clerks, a Georgetown superstar, decided to take a job with C&B. Our judge was disappointed for several reasons but one of them was C&B. At the time I was not sure why as she was going into the tax department. Now I realize why. The entire law firm has been an arm of the deep state, global and political corrupticons for the last 150 years. In her case, tax practice was the means to accomplishing either back door deals that got POLITICIANS (see Nancy et als.) rich or getting corrupt politicians out of trouble. How Flynn ended up with these charlatans will be subject to further discussion from a legal landscape perspective.

Aubergine

These guys WERE bad from the start! I don’t know if you’ve read my research about James Harry Covington and George Rublee, but it was an eye-opener for me!
It’s here, if you want to check it out:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/02/18/covington-burling-the-law-firm-that-gave-us-eric-holder-special-appearance-by-margaret-sanger/

Big T

I had forgotton about it til this minute. D and I poured over it. It confirmed everything I had heard.

Aubergine

Good to know. You are “in the know” about this stuff in real life. I just find out about it when I start hunting.

Deplorable Patriot

In the end, I think we do have Flynn. His testimony on various matters has not been heard.

Big T

Did any of you know this stuff?? Kelner was a vocal NT and activist support of McMuffin???
“It’s lonely in the #NeverTrump camp,” he tweeted last October. “Even lonelier in the openly Never Trump GOP election lawyer camp. We could meet in backseat of a Prius.”
“Win or lose, aiding and abetting Trump is not a morally acceptable option,” he wrote in September.
THIS IS CRAZY!! Flynn is not that stupid. What was going on here?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-nevertrump-lawyer-representing-michael-flynn

Aubergine

I am almost certain that Flynn is playing some long game that is so complex I just can’t see it all.

GA/FL

Hope he’s working with the Trump intel team to defeat/expose the Deep State and/or Never Trump schemers such as McMullin, Kristol, Romney, Ryan, et al.

Big T

Here is Kelner’s professional bio at the C&B website. What a Swamp Rat! They posted his picture to:comment image
https://www.cov.com/en/professionals/k/robert-kelner

Cuppa Covfefe

Margot is great. And a great mother as well.
She may be low key, but everything she says and writes is well worth noting and following…

Big T

Did you see the the article I posted elsewhere about Kelner Flynn’s former attorney? I would like your reaction. I plan to write about all of this.

churchmouse

The chap in the video below is British. He and the Israel Advocacy Group dug into Rashida Tlaib’s social media — and real life — connections. This is from April, but I do not recall seeing it posted here.
Worth watching, even if it is 8 minutes long. It’s subtitled, too, so sound is not necessary:

GA/FL

Remember – Islam’s violent, evil goals for the extermination of Israel and the Jews (written in their core texts and teachings) is the same for Christians, all non-moslems and for the West and the USA!!!
Islam is the evil spirit of the anti-Christ.
Islam’s evil fruit (murder, lies, lust, hate, rape, pedophilia, oppression, coercion, etc.) is the opposite of the Fruit of the Holy Spirit (Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Freedom, Gentleness, Kindness, Self-Control, etc).

GA/FL

There have been 35,339 deadly documented Islamic jihad attacks since 9/11/01 – 5-6 per day.comment image?2016
US State Department list of terror organizations is 95% Islamic: https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm
Graph – attacks by ideology:comment image
Rather than defend Islam – the UN should condemn it.
Islam’s practices are anti-woman, anti-freedom and anti-human civilization.
Islam should be banned from the face of the earth.

NebraskaFilly

I wholeheartedly wish it could be banned! SMH

NebraskaFilly

That statement may seem counterintuitive to some, given my full-throated defense of moderate Muslims. I think those moderate Muslims are terribly misled but…..until Islam can be banned (which, unfortunately, I don’t believe will ever happen), we must deal with it and, somehow……some way…..find a way to tell the difference. But I just don’t know what method would serve the purpose of identifying moderate vs. radical.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ll give Mohammed a lot of credit for brains. He had seen what had happened to other religions, and did what he could to “lock down” Islam, to make sure it could NEVER change. The whole structure of sharia law is intended to ensure that it can never be reformed from within. If a judge gives too lenient a sentence, for instance–as one could imagine another system would do as it’s starting to weaken its grip–he himself can be punished.

GA/FL

Did he intentionally set up an unreconcilable dichotomy in which the Mecca writings are contradicted by the Medina writings creating cognitive dissonance and mental conflict in the minds of his followers?
Did he intend to leave conflict between the tribes and sects that can never end?
Did he intend to demean women and allow the abuse and exploitation of children?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In the first case, the discrepancy between Mecca and Medina is “covered.” You go with the more recent one, it abrogates the previous one. Scholars of the Koran have long ago determined what order the suras were written in, (not in the order they appear in the Koran), so if there appears to be a conflict, the one higher up on their list gets priority.
It allows them to quote the warm-fuzzy Mecca versus to outsiders and look like a warmhearted, tolerant religion, while in their minds they’re thinking “that’s an abrogated verse.”
Supposedly, women in Arabia were treated *even worse* before Mohammed, so he’s counted as a great liberator for directing it be cut back. Today, of course, we see it as going the wrong way.

GA/FL

The Islamic system still breeds inhumanity, sociopathology and horrific barbaric violence.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No disagreement there. I said Muhammed was smart, I didn’t say he was good.

GA/FL

:8->

singingsoul1

Un is a total farce.

churchmouse

Buzz Aldrin is buzzed about his conversation with PDJT:

Some sad comments follow, but, fortunately, sensible people understand Buzz’s buzz:

churchmouse

There is also this, which is rather touching:

churchmouse

US Citizenship and Immigration Services Acting Director is on fire. Someone directly involved is finally willing to speak up:

churchmouse

He has a thread on MS-13, great stuff:

GA/FL

Thank you very much for this and for all your hard work/research/dedication, Churchmouse!!!

churchmouse

You are most welcome, GA/FL!! 🙂

Alison

Thank you, Churchmouse! Encouraging to see Cuccinelli lighting a fire at USCIS, and most likely turning a few rocks to uncover more swamp.
IIRC Obama admin removed a portion of the requirement/oath that naturalized citizens swear to protect USA from its enemies. If that is true, I hope it gets addresses and remedied.

churchmouse

Me, too. I hadn’t read that — but wouldn’t doubt it.
Yes, someone has to light a fire. I’m glad that Cuccinelli’s stepped up to the plate, as it were.

Cuppa Covfefe

MS-13 was NOT born in LA.
The Crips (as in cripple) and the Bloods (as in draw blood) WERE born in Los Angeles, in particular, in Watts. The summer before I started at USC, a young couple was brutally killed near campus (I think on “Fraternity Row”, which would be 28th Street).
I would at least think my classmates (and dorm mates) who were journalism majors there at the time, and one of who has been on the Masthead of the LA Times (hint hint – We are SC, We are SC and “I don’t eeeeeven wanna know”) would know better…
Then again, the LAT now is in Chinese hands…….

Cuppa Covfefe

Of whom…sorry
(or, rather, sorry on behalf of Wurst Press)…

churchmouse

I knew about the Crips and the Bloods. A few years ago I read that they have, for lack of a better word, affiliate gangs across the country these days.
Re the denial, your second paragraph seems to point to the nub of the problem.

NebraskaFilly

Um, using our education system as it is now is foolish, IMO. Let us keep in mind who produces those textbooks – mostly Pearson Publishing, with Arab/Islamic connections. Our history textbooks, as well as most other textbooks, do NOT now reflect reality or factual history.

churchmouse

Are the citizenship textbooks from Pearson?
I gathered he was talking about books used for the citizenship process, which could be entirely different.

NebraskaFilly

That’s possible but he did mention the education system.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. More like POISON Publishing, and they’ve been at it a long time. They also ruined the Microsoft Technical Curricula (MSCE, MCP, various development and admin certs).
They are a conduit for moving ALL EDUCATION processes and testing under the UN. Look up Robert Mueller (horrors, Yes, there’s TWO OF THEM!), who worked for the UN as their Education Minister. As a sideline, he was a Satanist… True to the UN Ideal.
A rather long exceprt from http://www.cuttingedge.org (article is: http://www.crossroad.to/Books/BraveNewSchools/2-International.htm#1)
The whole article (and their section on the UN and education) is well worth reading. Berrit Kjos (at http://www.crossroad.to), author of “Brave New Schools” and other articles about the downgrading of American and other countries’ education systems, and www,invisibleserfscollar.com by Robin Eubanks. Finally, “The Dliberate Dumbing Down Of America” by Charlotte Iserbyt is absolutely “required reading”… I think it’s available as a pdf online… Anyway, to the UN and the execreble Robert Muller…

Theosophy, Robert Muller and his World Core Curriculum.
During a visit to Arlington, Texas, some years ago, a friend took me to see the original Robert Muller school. While she waited in the car, I walked past a little Buddha, climbed the steps to the front door, and rang the bell. Gloria Crook, the Director opened the door and asked why I had come. I listed my credentials: I was interested in global education, was concerned about the environment, and was an immigrant from Norway — a country well known for its global concerns and admiration for the United Nations.[18]
I must have passed the test, because she invited me in and led me into a massive hallway. Looking to the left, I saw a room full of young mothers and pregnant women in yoga position. On a table next to the doorway, I noticed a stack of papers. The title startled me: “Occult Meditation.”
To those who don’t know God, the occult seems good, not bad, I thought to myself.
“Are you familiar with Alice Bailey?” she asked me as we entered a large cluttered office.
“Yes.” I nodded, well aware of her links to Theosophy and the occult messages she channeled from her favorite spirit guide. “Didn’t she write books full of messages she received from the Tibetan Master, Djwhal Khul?”
“Yes,” answered Ms Crook. “Here, sit down and look at some of them.” She pulled down several of Bailey’s books from a shelf and put them in my lap. I silently thanked God for His spiritual protection as I flipped through the pages of the first one, Education in the New Age.
Then she handed me the Robert Muller World Core Curriculum Manual. I turned a few pages and read,
“The underlying philosophy upon which the Robert Muller School is based will be found in the teaching set forth in the books of Alice A. Bailey by the Tibetan teacher, Djwhal Khul ….”[19]
The back of the manual contained two certificates. The first announced that The Robert Muller School “is a participating institution in the UNESCO Associated Schools Project in Education for International Co-operation and Peace.” The other confirmed its accreditation by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. On behalf of the Southern Association’s review team, Dr. Eileen Lynch wrote,
“The visiting team… was so impressed with the Robert Muller School that they thought the educational process and the general curriculum would be most valuable as a model for teacher education… Throughout this report the committee has recommended that information of the school’s educational processes be shared with educators everywhere as much as possible.”[20] (Emphasis added)
Finally Ms Crook pulled two large golden frames from the wall and showed them to me. I shivered when I looked at the first. It pictured a beautiful calligraphied rendition of “The Great Invocation,” an occult prayer used around the world to invoke a global outpouring of spiritual light and power.[21]
The other frame displayed a letter from the White House. President Bush had sent his greetings and appreciation for the contributions made by the school. Did the former president know whom he had endorsed?
Whether Bush knew Muller or not, the former U.N. leader is no stranger to the educational establishment. You saw that back in 1985, Muller’s vision of a World Core Curriculum, as outlined in his book New Genesis: Shaping a Global Spirituality, was endorsed by the powerful ASCD[22] and recommended to enthusiastic educators at an international curriculum symposium. Two years later, it was promoted by Andy LePage in his well-endorsed book on holistic learning, Transforming Education. In the nineties, it is spreading into local school districts.[23]
For example, Eugene, Oregon, School District 4J developed and published its “Integrated Curriculum K-5” in 1989. Page eleven in this public school curriculum acknowledges that “The three curriculum strands are adapted from the World Core Curriculum by Robert Muller….” The three curriculum strands match those in Muller’s book: “Oneness with the planet,” “Unity with people,” and “Harmony with self.” Muller’s fourth strand, which deals with evolution through time, is incorporated into the other three strands. In New Genesis: Muller pulls the strands together into one utopian vision:
“The ecumenical teachings of the Christ [not the Biblical Jesus] – peace, justice, love, compassion, kindness, human brotherhood… must also find their way in world-wide global education. We must give the newcomers into the ceaseless renewed stream of human life the right education about their planetary home, about their human family, about their past, present and future, about their place in the universe and in time, so that they can flower to their utmost beauty – physically, mentally and spiritually – and become joyful and grateful members of the universe or kingdom of God.”[24]
Muller’s vision can be seen at a glance in two diagrams for “Defining World Class Education” designed by the Iowa Department of Education. The first diagram, called “The Old Story: Conventional Wisdom” shows an oval picture of the earth with its land and oceans. The globe is surrounded by arrows pointing toward the center and bombarding the planet with terrors like “Domination,” “Biocide,” “Ecocide,” “Earth is Man’s to Exploit,” “WAR,” “Intercultural Conflicts,” and “Boundaries.”[25]
The second diagram shows students “the right education about their planetary home.” It pictures a rounder, more mystical planet. Titled “The New Story: Transformation,” it shows arrows radiating out from the earth. Here the descriptions reflect the vision of a healthy harmonious planet: “Beyond War,” “Humanity Evolving,” “Reverence for all Life,” “Interconnectedness; We are All One,” and “Gaia”–a spiritualized Earth renamed after an ancient Greek goddess.
This mystical teaching tool was fabricated by tax-funded educators, not fringe fanaticals. The paradigm shift it promotes has gained enough acceptance to be established in local classrooms as well at global symposiums. Listen to the message in “The Peacemakers Planetary Anthem” sung to the melody of the Star Spangled Banner during an assembly at an elementary school in Sunnyvale, California. Encouraging children to imagine a peaceful planet with pristine forests and crystal-clear rivers, it begins with this millennial view:
O say can you see
by the one light in all,
A New Age to embrace
at the call of the nations….[26]
Now compare the Iowa chart and the California song to Muller’s vision of a world united through global education and evolving spiritually toward ultimate perfection:
“We need a new world education. Global education, namely the education of the children into our global home and into the human family, is making good progress. But we have to go beyond. We need the cosmic education foreseen by the religions and by people like Maria Montessori. We need a holistic education, teaching the holism of the universe and of the planet….”[27]
Muller didn’t mention Waldorf Schools, but they fit right in. Their founder, Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925), shared Alice Bailey’s occult roots in Theosophy, but broke away to start his own cult, Anthroposophy, which he described as “knowledge produced by the higher self in man.”[28] Like the Robert Muller schools, Waldorf schools offer holistic education and have long used the strategies now implemented in all states through Mastery Learning: whole language instead of phonics, stories and “literature” instead of factual history, and a strong emphasis on myth, imagination, guided imagery, art, creativity, movement (Steiner’s founded eurythmy: movement as as art), and spiritual oneness with nature.[29]
Global Education is still Muller’s driving ambition. His main headquarters are now in Costa Rica where he serves as Chancellor of the University of Peace, which is sponsored by the United Nations as a model for education in the 21st Century.
In 1989, UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) awarded him its Peace Education Prize. In his acceptance speech, Muller shared his vision of the new world education program. Part of his dream was…
“That all schools and universities of this Earth will teach peace and non-violence and become schools and universities for peace;
“That UNESCO will study and recommend by the year 2000 a world core curriculum for adoption by all nations;
“That all human beings of this earth become instruments of peace, thus fulfilling the cosmic function deeply engraved in each of us…[30]
By the time Muller shared this vision, the world had already made a giant leap toward fulfilling it.

churchmouse

This is SO true:

Cuppa Covfefe

They’re just putting up a *cough* straw man argument… 🙂
(ducks flying hashpipes, moldy copies of the Berkeley Barb, and some old, plastic, McDonalds microspoons that were banned years ago for their other, coke-y, usage)…
And, as they say,
Juul better watch out,
Juul better not cry,
Juul better watch out,
I’m telling you why,
London Breed is coming to town…
And when she’s voted out: London Breed is falling down…

churchmouse

Good observation: