Dear KAG: 20220809 Open Thread

Cover image: Norman Rockwell, Election Day, 1944. Watercolor and gouache, Cedar Rapids Museum of Art, Museum purchase, Save-the-Art fund, 2007.037.1.

“Election Day, 1944″, watercolor on paper, 28.25″x36.75″ overall, 36.75″x44.75” framed, studies for Saturday Evening Post by Norman Rockwell, Cedar Rapids, Iowa Chamber of Commerce collection, photographed 10/30/06. CRMA #S2006.001, CRCC #L1983.15.4

I took some time away over the weekend to recover from Friday, and some other stuff, so this is not going to be quite as loaded as it could be. For a thorough discussion on the FBI’s Mar-A-Lago “raid,” please see yesterday’s daily. This could easily be a shiny red ball meant to keep the cats looking at laser pointers away from inflation, Ukraine, The Pit, the Yankees sinking like a rock…..

https://twitter.com/pups_Puppies1/status/1556562141460795399

Here we go:

Beyond Meat Sales Decline As Customers Choose Less Expensive Real Meat

During an earnings call, Beyond Meat Chief Executive Ethan Brown told investors that as a category, meat substitutes have been hurt by rising prices, which have caused customers to trade down, buying cheaper real chicken and beef.

Brown noted that in the second quarter, according to data from numerator, US household penetration of plant-based meat contracted for the first time in more than four years.

The real truth wouldn’t be that the stuff is revolting, now would it?

Karl Marx, Liar and Corruptor

Throughout the 1800s, the world’s dominant philosopher was Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770–1830).  He thought the universe was a logical machine, like a steam engine.

Hegel and his contemporaries agreed that Nature contains an underlying structure.  The Hegelian dialectic was all the rage for a century.  These philosophers wanted to sound scientific and mathematical.  First thesis meets second thesis, producing third thesis.

Karl Marx (1818–1883) absorbed this thinking and concluded that history itself is a logical machine, like a cash register.  Events do not happen randomly.  There are laws — and Marx alone could explain them.

For Marx, the big predictions were about capital — i.e., money.  He probably wrote a thousand pages, but his answers came down to a simple diagram.  Capitalism works almost too well.  Industrialists could acquire fortunes, but that is the trap.  Capitalists are greedy bloodsuckers who reduce workers not just to poverty, but to starvation and desperation.  Inevitably, according to Marx, workers rise up in righteous wrath, kill the industrialists, and divide the money among the workers, ushering in a communist paradise.

The problem for communism is that Marx had a flimsy theory to promote, and he could be reckless about it.  Almost everything done in his name, as we’ll see, was dishonest.  He hacked his own history machine.

Patriotism Is Kryptonite to America’s Communist Class

Something is surely rotten at the Bureau when it is more than willing to “take a knee” in a Marxist show of solidarity with the Black Lives Matter anti-American anthem protesters but denigrates pro-American emblems as evidence of violent extremism.  Independence Day celebrations each year must be grueling for federal agents trying to protect the nation from its own rebellious past.  Now that patriotic displays of affection for the country have been relabeled as potential signs of domestic terrorism, hot dogs and fireworks require a new national security threat assessment.  All agents, be on the lookout for Americans engaging in too much fun on the Fourth of July.  Be advised: children with patriotic face paint, persistent Liberty Bell ringing, and unexpected outbursts of support for freedom may warrant further investigation.  Should you encounter any reference to the 1773 Boston Tea Party, the modern Tea Party Movement, or strong distaste for tea, in general, immediately call for backup.  This much is clear: when the FBI honors America-haters and vilifies American patriots, love for America is perceived as not only suspect, but also dangerous to the Deep State.  That says a lot about our current predicament. 

What’s a Gun Got to Do with It?

The arguments for gun control are familiar to most.  The anti-gun stance is that no guns means no mass shootings at schools less violent crime generally.  In support of this position, the figure of fewer deaths by guns in nations where guns have been banned is often cited, while violent deaths by other means are typically ignored.  Alternatively, the pro-gun position draws attention to 1) declining violent crimes in America for nearly three decades (Antifa/BLM riots, state D.A. criminal leniency, federal prison purges, etc. are altering this trend); 2) armed citizens for criminal deterrence; and 3) on-the-scene armed citizens preventing crime and apprehending criminals before police arrive.  Think of the recent Indiana mall “good Samaritan.”  In this article, we’ll explore the anti-gun side.

To underscore the U.S.’s unhealthy obsession with violence, anti-gun activists are aghast to learn that more guns exist in America (400M) than Americans (330M) — as if large numbers of inanimate objects somehow animate them.  It would be akin to shuddering over the number of chainsaws in hardware stores for fear that one might somehow self-start and kill someone.  What anti-gun activists don’t shout from their rooftops is that as the number of modern sporting rifles (MSRs) sold in America has increased over the past quarter-century — to include high-capacity-magazine, automatic high-powered rifles, etc., which they argue pose the greatest threat — the number of violent crimes has declined.

NPR is shocked that GOP governors aren’t making it easy for sanctuary cities

Perhaps the best thing of all is NPR’s shock and horror at how mean Abbott and Ducey are being. According to NPR, when they put those people on the bus, they had no plan: “GOP governors sent buses of migrants to D.C. and NYC—with no plan for what’s next”

That’s so wrong, of course. Gov. Abbott totally had a plan: It was to show that the last thing virtue-signaling leftists want is to live with the consequences of their open-border immigration policies.

The Enemies of Their Enemy

In “They Can’t Let Him Back In,” Anton depicts the class war that is erupting around Trump. His antagonists, the people who insist he was inciting an “insurrection” on January 6, represent the permanent political class and their globalist allies. These actors are committed to international free trade, “endless wars” to benefit the arms industry, and keeping the Washington establishment in clover. Although Trump as president did not consistently work against these interests, he did appeal to a class base that is revolting against American elites. It is therefore necessary, according to Anton, to destroy Trump’s reputation and political career to protect those who control public administration, the secret service, the media, the educational system, and the culture industry. 

Yes, Intrinsic Human Value is a Christian Idea, But Do You Really Want to Argue Against It?

The pro-life argument, in its foundational form, is simple:

  1. It’s wrong to intentionally kill innocent human beings.
  2. Abortion intentionally kills innocent human beings.
  3. Therefore, abortion is wrong.

The first thing to do when someone accuses you of making a religious argument against abortion is to clearly state the premises and conclusion of the argument and then ask, Which premise of this argument is religious?

A Curious Case of Transferred Battery Technology

The issue surrounds a new product technology called a vanadium redox flow battery.  Essentially the U.S. government funded scientists to develop an advanced battery that could store energy without degrading.  After success, the technology was then sent to China for manufacturing.  China then invested heavily in the product and used the technology to mass manufacture the battery for the global market. The United States is now behind in the product development and manufacture.

As the story is told in NPR, “the Chinese company didn’t steal this technology. It was given to them — by the U.S. Department of Energy. First in 2017, as part of a sublicense, and later, in 2021, as part of a license transfer.”  Except that’s not what happened at all.  There is some major ‘ass-covering’ in that false narrative.

The lead scientist working on the vanadium redox flow battery project was a man named Gary Yang.  Mr. Yang was born in China and emigrated to the U.S. becoming a U.S. citizen.  Yang worked with U.S. scientists to develop the technology and was funded by a multi-million research grant from the Dept of Energy.

After their initial success, according to NPR, “in 2012, Yang applied to the Department of Energy for a license to manufacture and sell the batteries.”  The Dept of Energy license was granted, and Yang launched UniEnergy Technologies as the parent company to develop the commercial application of the product.

The Fall of CNN: A Cautionary Tale

CNN should have learned that around the clock anti-Trump coverage is not a sustainable programing strategy for a company that claims to be a news network.

CNN’s viewers are leaving, and its revenue is following them out the door. Apparently, it was beyond Jeff Zucker’s understanding of the industry that you can’t sell time on a network that nobody watches. It turns out advertisers are a bunch of greedy capitalists that don’t understand the social importance of the work being done by the Commie News Network.

Leftists overdo hive-mind discipline, but conservatives could use a little more

Kimball has noticed something that I’ve noticed too:

Over the last year or so, I have noticed an innovation, at once stylistic and substantive, that has taken root throughout the regime media. It is this: whenever referring to Donald Trump and the 2020 presidential election, be sure to insert editorial comments to the effect that any concerns about the fairness of that election are “baseless” or the result of “lies.” 

He’s right. Outside of conservative media, no leftist or Never Trump article is content to say something along the lines of “Trump again alluded to his claim that the 2020 election was fraudulent.” Every time, the author will throw in that one- or two-word editorial:

Just one example: in a column Saturday about Donald Trump’s weekend rally in Waukesha, Wisconsin, the writer claimed Trump “spent much of his speech focusing on his baseless claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 presidential election” (emphasis added).

The Tyranny of the ‘Current Thing’

For a while, the Current Thing was #MeToo. From 2016 until 2018, the Current Thing was Russian collusion. After that scheme unraveled, we moved through a series of Current Things, each of which was said to compound the grave threat Trump supposedly posed to Our Democracy: in March 2020, it was Covid-19; for a few months that summer, it was systemic racism; then, it was the Delta variant; finally, for a stretch of early 2021, it was the January 6th “insurrection.” And when Russia invaded Ukraine, Ukraine became the Current Thing. You knew it was the new Current Thing because all the smart people suddenly changed how they spelled and pronounced “Kiev.”

Falsely Teaching Our Children That America is Evil

On Friday, Gary Bauer reported that the Oklahoma Board of Education decided to downgrade the Tulsa Public School District’s accreditation. This is because in Tulsa, they’re still teaching Marxist critical race theory — which is now against the law in the Sooner State.

Oklahoma’s Secretary of Education is Ryan Walters, who told Fox News: “What we’ve got to do is go back to teaching our history and ensuring that every young person has the ability to be successful and be inspired by our history.”

He added, “We’re the greatest country in the history of the world, and our kids need to know that.”

But how will children in Oklahoma, and all the other states, learn to appreciate our country when so many have been brainwashed with a false view for so long?

BREAKING: WA-3 Candidate Joe Kent Has *HIS OWN BALLOT* Rejected After Wildly Delayed Election Count.

Kent is currently running 0.1 percent behind establishment Republican Jaime Herrera Beutler, who voted to impeach President Trump. Critics wrote off Kent’s chances on election day, but the former Green Beret who served 11 combat tours and won six bronze stars has clawed his way back as the votes have trickled in.

https://twitter.com/TrumpStudents/status/1556803417984552960

Pfizer Spends $5.4 Billion Cash to Purchase Company That Specializes in Treatment of Blood Disorders

Gee. Imagine that.

Tweet hopper:

https://twitter.com/wowinteresting8/status/1556479839376482304
https://twitter.com/CatchUpScoop/status/1555512271383990272

Hmm…. What are the odds of TWO record breaking rainfalls in the USA weeks apart?

One of those you gotta see it to believe it deals.

https://twitter.com/albertlandis3/status/1556436979289571328
https://twitter.com/PatriotGirl__/status/1556728565986725891
https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1556735498663694338
https://twitter.com/Wehawke2/status/1556441493006589957

Meme hopper:

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1556693274571702275
https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1556702321584791552

Something to remember, always.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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The Gospel According to St. Matthew. Chapter 18:

At that hour the disciples came to Jesus, saying: Who thinkest thou is the greater in the kingdom of heaven? [2] And Jesus calling unto him a little child, set him in the midst of them, [3] And said: Amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. [4] Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, he is the greater in the kingdom of heaven. [5] And he that shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth me.

[6] But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. [7] Woe to the world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh. [8] And if thy hand, or thy foot scandalize thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee. It is better for thee to go into life maimed or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into everlasting fire. [9] And if thy eye scandalize thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee. It is better for thee having one eye to enter into life, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. [10] See that you despise not one of these little ones: for I say to you, that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.

[11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. [12] What think you? If a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them should go astray: doth he not leave the ninety-nine in the mountains, and go to seek that which is gone astray? [13] And if it so be that he find it: Amen I say to you, he rejoiceth more for that, than for the ninety-nine that went not astray. [14] Even so it is not the will of your Father, who is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. [15] But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.

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Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

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cthulhu

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Amen.

phoenixrising

Amen.

Gingersmom2009

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This has not left our main downstairs space for 20 years.

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Chris

Beautiful and inspirational !

Gingersmom2009

Protective!

Chris

Amen.

TheseTruths

I never knew “The Salvation Army” was a march. 🎶

cthulhu

Did you know it was a church?

TheseTruths

I just knew it was a charitable organization that I will not support after learning it promotes woke materials supporting critical race theory.

cthulhu

Once upon a time they were a worthy organization —

scott467

“I never knew “The Salvation Army” was a march.”

__________

March of Dimes could be a march… 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If you skipped this, watch it.

If you watched it, watch it again!!!  😃 

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1556702321584791552

TheseTruths

It’s a great video. It’s a great movement. We have the best leader possible in PDJT. And we have each other.

At the same time…
The Left marches on. They commit treason and heinous crimes and get off scot-free.
They stole our votes and the election and are destroying the country as we type.
We are learning more about the permanent administrative state that keeps progress from being made to restore the country.
They are trying to pin a crime on Trump so he can’t run for office again, and maybe so they can arrest him.
And seemingly all we can do is “look to November” and “wait for the crimes to be committed.”

I do realize that progress is being made to curb fraud somewhat, and that we’ve had some good wins in the primaries. I also have hope that the Patriot Games project of Gregg Phillips will bear fruit and that sheriffs will take action. I remain optimistic, despite the truth we all can see. But the Left is escalating, and I don’t see how we can survive months and years more of this. Something needs to happen, IMO.

scott467

November midterms are only about 2-1/2 months away. We should have much more clarity on election night in November, if the elections actually occur on schedule.

Of course, a lot could happen between now and then.

The illegitimate JB administration could launch waves of flying monkey pox homo pecker drones (FMPHPDs) on the public, which would certainly have a chilling effect on the straight male voter turnout in November, which characteristically leans heavily toward Trump and Trump endorsed candidates.

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TheseTruths

☺️ Between now and Nov. 8, monkeypox drones, absolutely. 🐒 And any other population-decreasing poison/pox/pill they might come up with. They could indict Trump and declare him unable to run for office. They could also arrest him. Meanwhile, people are living on credit card debt and *they* are pushing more vaccines despite reports of “sudden deaths” almost every day, and some governors want mask mandates again.

If Repubs won the House and had a clear margin in the Senate, I suppose Congressional investigations could take place. I have zero confidence in those yielding any positive results. They could impeach JB, but I have doubts about their having the courage to do that. And if JB were convicted, 🐪-a would be president. Not exactly a win for America.

2020 should have been dealt with immediately. A lot of people have a lot to answer for.

scott467

“They could indict Trump and declare him unable to run for office. They could also arrest him.”

____________

If they do that, it’s a mass suicide event by the administration… in which case, it’s hard to be against it.

It’s hard to imagine any other singular act that would awaken more people out of their comas, and unite and galvanize the population against the lawless JB administration.

I’m kind of surprised DJT isn’t baiting them to do it yet.

Can you even imagine the fun he could have, provoking them to arrest him, knowing they will be committing guaranteed political suicide if they actually do it? 😁

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Would it be?

What percentage of the country do you think buys the narrative?

DON’T look around you to answer that. Neither you, nor I, is in a typical location.

scott467

“What percentage of the country do you think buys the narrative?”

__________

Which narrative, do you mean what percentage believes the narrative that JB was legitimately elected and he and his administration aren’t criminals actively destroying the country?

I don’t know, but however many there are, there would be a lot less of them if these crooks arrest the former president for anything, much less on a trumped up charge.

Young people may not know any better, but older people do.

People can pretend not to see a lot of things in order to maintain their preferred illusions, but nobody could ‘not see’ the hilariously corrupt and openly political persecution if they arrest DJT.

I think that’s a spell-breaker.

If it isn’t, then nothing will be, and that’s useful information too, because in that case, we can officially stop waiting for an ‘awakening’ that is never going to happen 👍

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Totally agreed.

The stolen election, IMO, was grounds for everything that was done on January Sixth. Tactically, however, that was enemy territory.

The battlefield is now much bigger, and favors WE THE PEOPLE.

Every day these evil assholes are closer to their reckoning.

I’m PATIENT. They’re almost to the end of their rope.

LET THEM FALL OFF THE END OF IT.

singingsoul1

This fight is good against evil not republicans against democrats.

Aubergine

AMEN TO THAT!

If the arrest of a former President on trumped-up bullshit charges won’t “awaken” the sleeping giant, then America is DEAD and we can all make our peace and our plans accordingly.

singingsoul1

If they get away framing Trump they will feel free to frame anyone. I know what I am speaking about. Grew up right after Nazi Germany I heard much. I visited growing up my grandmother every summer every Christmas spend many weeks there. I have seen moms being arrested what they said in front of their kids. I saw friends teenagers disappear into a reform camp to change their Christian leaning. So much more people whisper because people were afraid speaking once mind.
This is here already except many Americans do not see it.

TheseTruths

Thank you for bringing your valuable perspective! This is not something to take lightly.

singingsoul1

I wish I was wrong. 🙁

Aubergine

It’s very scary.

singingsoul1

Yes it is 🙁

Gail Combs

Rasmussen

May 25, 2022 (Before 2000 Mules)

Election Integrity: Most Voters Still Suspect Cheating

Protecting the integrity of elections remains a high priority for American voters, most of whom still suspect there was cheating in the 2020 presidential election.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 55% of Likely U.S. voters believe cheating likely affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, including 39% who think it’s Very Likely. Thirty-nine percent (39%) don’t think cheating affected the 2020 election, including 28% who say it’s Not At All Likely. ….

With this move plus 2000 Mules, that 39% who “don’t think cheating affected the 2020 election” are very likely to move to the “Demon-Rats’ Cheated” column.

TheseTruths

I think this act should awaken some people who might have been on the fence.

I also think there are a lot of brainwashed people, or just Trump haters, who lack the principle to say, “I don’t like him, but he’s innocent. You can’t arrest him.” A lot of people would rejoice. This lack of principle is what has gotten us in the predicament we’re in now.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What you’re saying is true, but we’re not there yet. Not the REALLY BIG awakening.

This is an early warning. Smart people will start getting their lives in order NOW in preparation for the final confrontation.

It’s coming.

Prepare to do what is needed for freedom. Prepare to fight for the highest principles. Thus, don’t give any of those high principles up until the time of GOD’S choosing.

scott467

“I also think there are a lot of brainwashed people, or just Trump haters, who lack the principle to say, “I don’t like him, but he’s innocent. You can’t arrest him.” ”

_____________

Maybe that’s the silver lining to it, it may not require principle to cause alarm or sway the non-committal middle.

Those who don’t like Trump may initially rejoice at ‘Orange Man bad’ being arrested, but that would be such a brazen and naked act of political aggression, it’s so far outside the mainstream or the experience of anyone alive, that the next thought after rejoicing would be wait… if they can do that to a former President who is probably innocent of the charges against him, then they can and will destroy anybody who opposes them, over anything.

The true believers will be fine with that… the true believers will be onboard all the way to Nuremberg II.

But I think there are a lot of people in the wishy-washy middle who don’t pay a lot of attention to politics.

If the JB administration actually arrests DJT, anyone who is not a purple Kool-Aid chugging true believer is going to know we just jumped a track we’ve never jumped before, whether they like Trump or not.

They may never come over to our side, or support Trump, but they’re not likely to fight for or support the Leftists either, not once the Leftists make it clear to anyone with eyes that they’ve gone full batsh!t Nazi.

Or to say it another way, a lot of the wishy-washy middle are likely giving the JB administration the benefit of the doubt. They don’t know if he really won or not, and don’t really care, because he’s there now, and nobody did anything about it.

The JB administration will forfeit any such benefit of the doubt, they will own the moral low-ground, if they show the whole world the dragon behind their panda mask.

Just my sense of things, of course 👍

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Many will say it’s about time they arrested the SOB, and that will be the end of the thought process on the matter. Not “oooh, that’s unprecedented”. Much less “Whoah, dangerous precedent.”

That’s because they’ve heard nothing but “Trump Tried to overthrow the government” for the last year and a half, and now they believe it.

Think about it: WE would cheer if Obola got arrested, because we believe the same thing about him. (The fact that we’re right about this, and the trump story is a lie, is irrelevant; we’re talking about who would accept what, not whether they’re justified.)

scott467

Okay, ignore the public altogether, in the end they (we) don’t matter anyway. If we did, we wouldn’t be in the mess we have now.

All that matters is pretext and narrative and who has political cover and who doesn’t.

A game of shark eats minnow, where the Left are the sharks and the RINOs are minnows, gladly playing the role of shark bait in front of the cameras in exchange for ill gotten gain behind the cameras.

The whole thing is fixed, rigged.

So long as no new variable is introduced, nothing changes, ever.

Trump was a new variable, to which the sharks and minnows had to react.

Until Monday, nobody could investigate (and therefore prosecute) any former shark leaders or their cronies.

The sharks would never investigate and prosecute themselves, and the minnows would never bite the hand that feeds them.

A very cozy gig.

Then comes Trump, who they don’t own, can’t buy, and can’t blackmail.

Even worse, he laughs at the sharks and minnows and calls them names and makes fun of them (of all the nerve).

But even when Trump was POTUS, he couldn’t go after former shark leaders (Hussein, Clintons) or minnow leaders (Bush), because it had never been done before — and the MSM could beat him with that club until they discredited the entire proceedings.

If DJT tried to do it, if he had an AG that was willing to try to do it and Trump backed him up, the MSM would just vilify Trump (like always) and the AG, like usual.

And the reason it would work is NOT because the target wasn’t guilty, the MSM would never even discuss the facts of the case, because they would lose that argument on the merits.

The MSM would just do what they always do when the facts are against them, they would SPIN it as unacceptable, unthinkable, unAmerican, etc., and then scream “It’s NEVER been done before, they are breaking the traditions which hold our very democracy together!!!!”

The set the narrative, and then they interview people who are primed with the narrative, who parrot back exactly what the talking heads have spun.

A closed feedback loop.

So no matter what Trump does, no matter what the facts are, he will never be perceived to have public support (the MSM will lie about the survey data like always), and even if he wins the prosecution against Hussein or Hitlery, the MSM would just turn them into martyrs, call the prosecutions “unjust” because such a thing is NEVER done, and spring them loose with pardons as soon as Trump is gone.

And to the extent that it even matters, most of the public would have been provided plenty of mind control programming to ‘conclude’ that it was a politically motivated prosecution and we shouldn’t have that in America, when the truth is, we shouldn’t have anybody ABOVE the LAW in America.

It may not go down exactly like that, but close enough for purposes of this reply.

Now consider what changes, if the Left makes a critical tactical error — whether DJT provokes them or they just do it on their own — by raiding DJT’s home, instantly destroying the ‘tradition’ narrative that American ‘royalty’ (excuse me while I vomit again) is never investigated or prosecuted.

As a matter of public fact and record, regardless of what side anybody is on, it happened. The sharks raided a former President’s home with the clear intent to secure evidence for prosecution.

Worse, they did it without credible cause, and had to get a crooked judge to sign off on it, but that’s not really even important, what is important is that they DID it, and nobody can deny that they did it.

It is an undisputed and indesputable fact.

Now fast forward two years, and DJT wins the presidency.

He hires an honest AG who intends to take down the DS and Cabal, and already has more evidence than we already know or could ever dream about.

So with all their ducks in a row, they raid Hussein and Clinton and Bush, for starters. Bush is to show that the investigation is not partisan, in addition to Bush being a crook.

Now the media ramps up their spin machine into overdrive.

Except what do they say? How can they control the public narrative, when they cannot deny that JB did the exact same thing to DJT?

How can they scream and holler and carry on that “It’s just not done!”, when the whole world — Trump haters and Trump supporters alike — knows that the Left did exactly the same thing to Trump, and no one can deny it?

Even worse, the Left made up charges and manufactured evidence and used a crooked FIB leader from the Gretchen Witmer ‘kidnap’ case and roped in a crooked judge and friend of Epstein to sign off on the whole raid.

Whereas Trump will not need to make up charges, the evidence is overwhelming and speaks for itself, no crooked judge will be involved, and no ‘tradition’ is being broken, because the Left already broke it.

So if the Butler (e.g., Hussein, Hitlery, Bush) is caught in the Conservatory with the smoking gun, the rope, the wrench, the lead pipe, the dagger, the candlestick and the dead body, what is the MSM going to do?

What’s their ‘play’?

They can’t claim it’s ‘partisan’ if Bush is raided too.

They can’t claim Hussein, Hitlery and Bush didn’t commit heinous crimes against the Republic, because the evidence is and will be ironclad.

What else will the MSM have to fall back on, besides “It’s just not done… muh tradition!!!

Except the MSM can’t make that appeal to the public’s heartstrings and biases and hatred either, because that ‘tradition’ — in the immortal words of the Eagles — is Already Gone.

The Left blew that tradition up last Monday.

What is there for the MSM to do, except wail and gnash their teeth?

What plea can they make to rile up the public, if the black hats don’t have the facts on their side, don’t have the ability to spin it as ‘partisan’, and don’t have the ability to claim the violation of a sacred and holy tradition?

A ‘tradition’ which the Left destroyed, and which everyone knows is an indisputable fact, and which no one — neither Trump haters nor Trump supporters — can deny.

What do they have?

They have nothing.

A bullhorn without a voice.

And who has cover?

The AG and the President and the entire legal team prosecuting Hussein, Hitlery, Bush and all their cronies, because they control what evidence is revealed to the public, on their own schedule.

So if the MSM somehow begins to get any traction by spinning some heretofore unconsidered lie… then a photo or video or audio recording of Hussein, Hitlery or Bush caught in the act will be like a hurricane blowing the MSM narrative away like a feather.

And if the WH press corpses get nasty with the AG or the prosecution team, they have easy political cover:

A) undeniable capital crimes were committed

B) the investigation is non-partisan, everyone involved on either side of the aisle is being prosecuted

C) there is no ‘tradition’ being broken, the Left already broke it on August 8th 2022 when the JB administration raided former (and current) President Trump’s home on bogus charges with manufactured evidence and a warrant signed by a corrupt judge

D) In America, nobody is above the Law

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That entire argument barely even involves the public, or what they think, or don’t think.

But it does explain how the MSM will have no plausible ‘plea’ to make to the public, and it does explain how the prosecution will have political cover to withstand any outside pressure to cease and desist

And not one member of the general public has to change their mind about Trump, or anything else, to make it happen.

It’s all about the reality box inside which all the participants must play.

Before Monday, that reality box was sealed up tight.

By Monday night, the primary support wall was blown down.

None of it has to do with public opinion.

All of it has to do with public facts.

Facts which no onefriend or foe — can deny.

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Gail Combs

Rasmussen Poll

August 09, 2022

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, sponsored by Matt Palumbo’s MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN for Tuesday shows that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Biden’s job performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove.

The latest figures include 23% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 45% who Strongly Disapprove

You have only 23% who probably can not be swayed.

Congressional Favorability Ratings

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 36% of Likely U.S. Voters now have a favorable view of Pelosi, while 60% regard her unfavorably. This includes 18% with a Very Favorable opinion of the San Francisco Democrat and 50% with a Very Unfavorable one. Only four percent (4%) have no opinion of her…

You have GOT to see this chart!

Biden has a MUCH better approval rating than Congress and BOTH are headed straight down the tubes! Those same 23% show up as approving AND THAT IS ALL!

Daily national approval/opinion ratings (2021-2022)

The chart below shows weekday approval and opinion ratings for the president, Congress, and regarding the direction of the country, and is based on an average of recent polls aggregated by Ballotpedia every weekday. The numbers express positive rankings, such as those who approve of the president, who approve of Congress, or who think the U.S. is heading in the right direction….

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballotpedia%27s_Polling_Index:_Congressional_approval_rating

Brave and Free

Agreed, still lots of people not awake to what’s going on in this country. Hell how many people even know PDJT is holding rallies outside of peeps like us here? I know lots of trump supporters who don’t know.

singingsoul1

I do not have the education most trump haters have but I know this has nothing to do with Trump this is totalitarian tactic.
God help us this is real it will get worse.

TheseTruths

Yes, and Trump is the strongest opponent to their totalitarian tactics that we possibly have ever had

singingsoul1

Yes he is. I am concerned for his safety. DeSantice seems not to have the stones I thought he had.

TheseTruths

I’m going to continue watching.

singingsoul1

Both of us will.

kalbokalbs

Suspicious cat engaged.

24 – 48 hour rule ticking.

DeSantis move(s)…?

singingsoul1

We need to wait and see. He should have known specially if his police was assisting.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree. Once they indict Trump, they lose nearly all their protection. Once they arrest or convict him, they lose ALL protection. They are NAKED.

singingsoul1

Never temp demonic owned people. FBI is demonic from the top down. Never temp the devil.

Gail Combs

If they arrest him they will CERTAINLY KILL HIM…

singingsoul1

Yes I think so too.

singingsoul1

Dictators do that to their opponents.

scott467

“If they arrest him they will CERTAINLY KILL HIM…”

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If they arrest him, he better not even break a toe nail.

scott467

“…and some governors want mask mandates again.”

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That’s not for me! 😁

kalbokalbs

Impeach the bastard.

Impeach the Hoe.

Impeach ALL of them assholes.

Ignoring the CRIMINALS is NOT HELPING America.

singingsoul1

Amen

RF121

Hearings would be a waste of time. The media will ignore them. Any recommendations for indictments, prosecutions would go to the DOJ for the FBI to investigate. Dead end.

And GOP leadership is loving this. They can make weak statements in support of Trump here and there, while loving the fact that the dems and the FBI will take care of their problem for them. They can then claim innocence.

They are just hoping when we get to the pitch fork phase of this, they are not on the receiving end.

Gail Combs

Do what I just did CALL YOUR STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND YELL AT THE SPINELESS COWARDS! Make it very clear you hold THEM RESPONSIBLE because they did NOTHING in the last 6 years.

RF121

Not a registered Republican. I don’t think they would care.

Gail Combs

It is an election year. Voters in Maracopa AZ. got that dishonest election official that did not order enough ballots FIRED because ENOUGH OF THEM RAISED CAINE!

RF121

Now they have to work on Pinal County.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Humor in the face of evil! I love it!

Aubergine

“flying monkey pox homo pecker drones”

I hear that even a BB gun is effective against those 😉

ROBERT BAKER

What America needs is some cold-blooded warriors, or is it hot-blooded warriors? … confusing times for sure.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Alas….

TheseTruths

Wray needs to be impeached, but this Congress won’t do it. But really, the 3-letters need a complete overhaul.

And if it turns out that Wray is a sleeper, playing a role, that can come out before or during the process. But the lack of prosecution of Bidens and Clintons and others, and this raid, can’t stand.

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TradeBait2

No – not an overhaul. They need shut down permanently. The duties they perform that are constitutional can and should be transferred to the one patriotic law enforcement arm of the federal government – the U. S. Marshals.

kalbokalbs

…3-letters need a complete overhaul.

  • Three Letters need to be shut down, permanently.
  • Prosecute their top echelon.

And if it turns out that Wray is a sleeper, playing a role…

  • NO Words, for how GOOFY and BASELESS this notion is.
  • Un Fucking Believable, anyone holds this thought as possible.
  • Wray HAS at his whim the ability to investigate the evil going on.
  • Wray HAS at his whim the ability to STOP shit like RAIDING Mara Lago.

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  • SPOILER ALERT….
  • WRAY IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

OR, beyond WISHFUL THINKING, what did I totally miss?

Is there a script being played out. Is it a movie?

TheseTruths

I was giving a nod to all the theories that people might come up with. 😊

kalbokalbs

Oh. Got it. Thought my take didn’t fit, my general understanding, of your position(s). Slow guy caught up with ya. Thanks.

singingsoul1

Wray a Bush stooge and was suggested to Trump by no other than traitor Chris Christie who claimed to be Trump’s friend. With a friend like Christie who needs enemies.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

People need to start SPITTING ON WRAY in public.

scott467

As a Citizen of Florida Ron DeSantis Calls FBI Mar-a-Lago Raid “Another Escalation”
August 8, 2022

“At times of greatest consequence, the legacy of leadership becomes important.Florida Governor Ron DeSantis doesn’t use his official office account to release a statement on the FBI raid in Mar-a-Lago, that likely required a joint cooperative task force response from the state, as customary for fulfilment of a federal warrant upon a Florida citizen. Instead, Florida Governor DeSantis issues a tweet from his personal account noting the action was yet “another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies.”  Oh well, that’s a relief, heavy sigh, as long as it’s just “another escalation”….

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Quick pivot right to the whataboutism politics DC is famous for… “while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves”, and “IRS agents,” etc.

You see, this is what DC does to bang the pots and pans loudly in the UniParty kitchen. As a congressional representative, Ron DeSantis learned the chaff and countermeasures well. Actually challenge the federal government? No way. Not gonna happen.
Meanwhile, compare the response from future Arizona Governor Kari Lake:

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Keep in mind, the personal account of Ron DeSantis could say anything he wants. Again, for reasons known to political followers, DeSantis chose not using the FL Gov Twitter account for his response to an FBI raid that happened in his state…. that used his joint cooperation task force to execute.

Times of consequence provide insights into strength of leadership.  Or as Ron DeSantis would say “another escalation” amid a lot of escalations that have yet to reach a line where ‘escalations‘ are no longer accepted; at least not for him. Someone with political ambitions generally draws those lines in a much different place than the regular people impacted by the escalations the professional political class like to bang their pots loudly about.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ~ Sam Adams

State Representative Anthony Sabatini from Florida district 32 seems to understand the dynamic that changed today.”

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Almost twinzed, just coming to post same. Looks like Some Dude has soured on political Ron who has denied that he used his joint cooperation task force to execute.

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎


bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

I will never forget Rep. DeSantis, being in charge of the Homeland Security Committee at the time, hopping the 1st plane and flying to Las Vegas. Spent a few hours and then returned back to DC. Delivering instructions? Never uttered a public word.
In the comments of one of today’s TGP articles, a guy kept claiming DeSantis was a FED, people were calling him a troll. I think he was right.

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marymorse

Boomerang incoming!

https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/judge-who-approved-fbi-raid-on-mar-a-lago-once-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein/

The magistrate judge represented Epstein’s unindicted co-conspirators.

TheseTruths

We know that Pres. Trump’s home was raided. If you think that was a ruse for something by the white hats — or any other possibilities people are not talking about — would you please flesh out your theory?

scott467

SD: “Because I’m sick and tired of the “another escalation” acceptances. That’s why. How many more “escalations” are acceptable, before you reach the line?”

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He better watch it, or Menagerie will toss him right off that blog…

Valerie Curren

LOL!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA!!!

pgroup2

[loud snort]

TheseTruths

Wondering if it’s customary for the Feds to notify a governor when planning such a raid. (Has a raid like this ever happened in our history, to a “former” president?)

I can see why they wouldn’t want to notify DeSantis. But I wonder if there’s some kind of procedure that they didn’t follow in this case.

scott467

“(Has a raid like this ever happened in our history, to a “former” president?)”

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Not to my knowledge, it’s ‘unthinkable’. It shouldn’t be unthinkable — the Clintons should have been raided every day for the past 25 years — but until yesterday, the corrupt political-class had circled the wagons on that activity.

It’s like Chuck Schumer depantsing Liz Cheney at a Uni-party fundraiser.

It’s simply not done.

Except now it is.

Just think how much fun this is going to be… 😁

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TheseTruths

State Representative Anthony Sabatini from Florida district 32 seems to understand the dynamic that changed today.

I agree with SD that the dynamic changed today. I like that Rep. Sabatini of FL wants to sever ties with the DOJ. I don’t know the legalities of that, but he wants to actually do something rather than wait for the next election.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This government is illegitimate. It is NOT insurrection to oppose it with every fiber of our beings.

States which throw off this foreign-backed monster are LOYAL TO THE FLAG AND THE CONSTITUTION.

kalbokalbs

States, Counties and Cities STOP cooperating with DOJ, FIB…

TheseTruths

DeSantis is in the spotlight since this happened in his state. His response is important.

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Yes, they’re supposed to know, DeSantis admin claims he didn’t. Pretty hinky.

TheseTruths

I saw that you had posted that and edited my comment. I don’t want to believe that DeSantis would cooperate with a Fed raid on PDJT. That would place him in a whole different light. I will believe him for now.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It is just barely possible one of his underlings authorized the cooperation without his knowledge.

But if that’s the case he’d better damned well be finding out WHO.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I suspect that’s why the muted response. DeSantis was likely out-maneuvered on his own territory by the feds. Thus, his weak response, which is smart until he recovers some advantage against the feds, who clearly wanted to not just get Trump, but paint DeSantis as weak in the process.

This is some high-stakes poker.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That’s pretty much what I was thinking.

IF he had nothing to do with this, he’s investigating, and then he’ll nail someone’s hide to the wall–but until then he’s going to try to act harmless.

We should know in a couple of days.

Gail Combs

DeSantis needs to call into his office the ENTIRE CHAIN OF COMMAND CHew there asses up one side and down the other AND THEN FIRE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

REMEMBER that SECURITY CLEARANCES AND SECRET DESIGNATIONS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRESIDENT he just DELEGATES THAT AUTHORITY.

This means the warrant WAS ILLEGAL ON THE FACE OF IT!

And it really gets funny from there.
2010 POLITIFACT

By Louis Jacobson

September 24, 2010

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“The president is the one who established the security clearance system by executive order,” said Steven Aftergood, a national security and intelligence specialist with the Federation of American Scientists. “Therefore it is nonsensical to speak of clearances higher than what the president has. As head of the executive branch and commander in chief of the armed forces, there is no information in government that could be denied to the president for security reasons if he determined he needed access to that information.”

John Pike, the director of globalsecurity.org, agreed. “This is a silly statement,” Pike said. “The only clearance the president needs is the mandate of the people.”

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If, in theory, Obama was not president and decided to apply for a security clearance, there’s no guarantee he’d qualify for one. He’d have to go through a painstaking process, and investigators may raise any number of questions.

“The fact that (Obama) admitted to cocaine use, travel to unauthorized countries years before, and his associations with (black nationalist) Louis Farrakhan and Rev. Jeremiah Wright, he probably would not have been granted a security clearance,” said Josh Grodin, West’s campaign manager.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/sep/24/allen-west/allen-west-says-he-has-clearance-even-president-un/

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CLINTON PRESS RELEASE:

EXECUTIVE ORDER #12968

ACCESS TO CLASSIFIED INFORMATION

The national interest requires that certain information be maintained in confidence through a system of classification in order to protect our citizens, our democratic institutions, and our participation within the community of nations. The unauthorized disclosure of information classified in the national interest can cause irreparable damage to the national security and loss of human life.

Security policies designed to protect classified information must ensure consistent, cost effective, and efficient protection of our Nation’s classified information, while providing fair and equitable treatment to those Americans upon whom we rely to guard our national security.

This order establishes a uniform Federal personnel security program for employees who will be considered for initial or continued access to classified information.

NOW, THEREFORE,  👉 by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, 👈  it is hereby ordered as follows:

PART 1 DEFINITIONS, ACCESS TO CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE, AND OTHER ITEMS

Section 1.1. Definitions.

For the purposes of this order:

(a) “Agency” means any “Executive agency,” as defined in 5 U.S.C. 105, the “military departments,” as defined in 5 U.S.C. 102, and any other entity within the executive branch that comes into the possession of classified information, including the Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, and the National Reconnaissance Office.

(b) “Applicant” means a person other than an employee who has received an authorized conditional offer of employment for a position that requires access to classified information.

(c) “Authorized investigative agency” means an agency authorized by law or regulation to conduct a counterintelligence investigation or investigation of persons who are proposed for access to classified information to ascertain whether such persons satisfy the criteria for obtaining and retaining access to such information.

(d) “Classified information” means information that has been determined pursuant to Executive Order No. 12958, or any successor order, Executive Order No. 12951, or any successor order, or the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2011), to require protection against unauthorized disclosure.

(e) “Employee” means a person, other than the President and Vice President, employed by, detailed or assigned to, an agency, including members of the Armed Forces; an expert or consultant to an agency; an industrial or commercial contractor, licensee, certificate holder, or grantee of an agency, including all subcontractors; a personal services contractor; or any other category of person who acts for or on behalf of an agency as determined by the appropriate agency head.

(f) “Foreign power” and “agent of a foreign power” have the meaning provided in 50 U.S.C. 1801.

(g) “Need for access” means a determination that an employee requires access to a particular level of classified information in order to perform or assist in a lawful and authorized governmental function.

(h) “Need-to-know” means a determination made by an authorized holder of classified information that a prospective recipient requires access to specific classified information in order to perform or assist in a lawful and authorized governmental function.

(i) “Overseas Security Policy Board” means the Board established by the President to consider, develop, coordinate and promote policies, standards and agreements on overseas security operations, programs and projects that affect all United States Government agencies under the authority of a Chief of Mission.

(j) “Security Policy Board” means the Board established by the President to consider, coordinate, and recommend policy directives for U.S. security policies, procedures, and practices.

(k) “Special access program” has the meaning provided in section 4.1 of Executive Order No. 12958, or any successor order.

Sec. 1.2. Access to Classified Information….

https://sgp.fas.org/clinton/eo12968.html

CMinTN

With normal warrants the governor is not going to be involved. The legislature and executive have these cooperative joint task forces with the feds for all kinds of garbage. But, like Scott said, this is no normal warrant, it is for a president. The politically sensative nature of it would mean the governor would have to be brought in on it. If not, DeSantis needs to get his house in order. Either way, 48 hour rule.

Cuppa Covfefe

“The politically sensative nature of it would mean the governor would have to be brought in on it.”

The Satanic ingrates of Washington D.C. don’t care about protocol, propriety, sensitivity (and any processes or logic related to that), or, basically, anyone or anything except their evil goals.

Their ends justify their means. And their ends are full of monkeypox…

TheseTruths

I see what you did there…🥸

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, I’m waiting and seeing, as, right now, BOTH alternatives (DeSantis worked around, or DeSantis cooperating) are possible.

scott467

“Yes, they’re supposed to know, DeSantis admin claims he didn’t. Pretty hinky.”

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That’s at least a quadruple helping of hink, with a cherry hink on top.

If DeSantis really didn’t know, if he was actually kept in the dark, then he has a renegade law enforcement problem.

And his weak sauce response is not encouraging.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

DeSantis needs to play weak sauce until he gets a true bead on what just happened. Or maybe he actually knows.

There is some possibility that DeSantis made a strategic sacrifice of his own rep here. It may be that letting the feds make this mistake was sound strategy, and not opposing it was the best tactic.

The feds got MAX BURN on this. That’s a good small goal.

Cuppa Covfefe

The three-letter bastards are trying to get a two-fer, VSGPDJT and DeSantis.

Throwing shade on both of them, to put down the two top MAGA candidates for 2024 and 2028… Trump for 2024, and DeSantis for 2028.

Just like their father Satan and Satan Sauros, they try to get the most bang for their bucks. And to add injury to injury, those bucks are usually ours… 😡 😡 😡 😡

kalbokalbs

Hmmmm….

Gail Combs

That occurred to me also.

scott467

“Is SD saying that the DeSantis administration cooperated with the Feds to raid Trump’s home? It makes sense that state cooperation would be necessary, but I don’t know the law.”

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Well, on any kind of action like this against a former president, it seems it could only happen one of two ways.

Either the “state cooperation” involved the Governor, because he would have to be made aware of such a thing being planned and executed in the State of which he is the chief executive — or knowing he is a Trump supporter, the “state cooperation” purposely kept the highest Executive in the state of Florida in the dark.

Which would make those “state” elements rogue or renegade operatives.

If they were rogue or renegade operatives, the Gov. of Florida might want to do something about that, immediately, before he’s next.

Since he didn’t, and since he issued such a weak sauce objection from his private Twitter account, it appears SD either thinks DeSantis cooperated, or at the very least, is unwilling to do anything about it.

Either way, it doesn’t seem SD thinks this bodes well for Ron’s political future.

TheseTruths

(I had written what you quoted, then changed it when I saw that DeSantis denied knowledge of the raid.)

Your reasoning seems sound. I expect to hear more in the coming days (and I hope hours) about how it went down and on whose authority the entities in FL acted. DeSantis needs to show that he knew nothing about it, and if there were rogue elements in his state, they need to be dealt with. It is outrageous that a president’s home was allowed to be raided for no good reason, and it happened on his watch. I think he will survive this, but he has some ‘splainin’ to do.

scott467

“I expect to hear more in the coming days (and I hope hours) about how it went down and on whose authority the entities in FL acted”

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If DeSantis was really kept in the dark, there should be serious accusations by the Gov. followed by actions in the morning, I would think.

If State law enforcement did not inform the Gov. about the raid, it certainly seems he would have to come down hard against everyone involved who is under his authority and kept it from him.

I considered that he might come out swinging even if they did inform him, as false display of outrage for political cover, but if he was found out to be lying — and he certainly would be found out in such a scenario — that would be the end of his career.

So if he basically does nothing, that would seem to be the big tell that he knew about it.

scott467

“It is outrageous that a president’s home was allowed to be raided for no good reason, and it happened on his watch.”

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As these things keep happening against Trump, I can’t help but think that it is doing DJT a favor in the long run, making it politically possible for Trump to do the exact same things to the real traitors, once he’s back in office.

There are a lot of ‘traditions’ being destroyed, and a lot of new precedents being set.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That is exactly what happened in the last days of the Roman republic.

A lot of things that people could do but traditionally didn’t do…got done.

TradeBait2

Been my point on here since I arrived. They had nothing on us. Our scum have taken it to a much more accomplished level.

Simple question for anybody on here.

Even if the feds are legally bound to notify the governor before taking an action in their state’s jurisdiction such as was taken; why would anybody in their right mind think they would follow the law to do it?

They are willing to commit genocide against their own citizens. They commit atrocities here and around the world daily. WTH is a law to them?

mollypitcher5

Exactly TB…..THIS ^^^

kalbokalbs

Sorta like who expects criminals to obey gun laws…

Laws have no impact on criminal Fed actions.

Cuppa Covfefe

If they are willing to kill innocent unborn babies, thereby sacrificing their (and our) future, and their eternal future, they would be, and are, willing to do anything to anyone at any time.

They have no morals, no logic, and serve Satan.

It’s high time we deal with them as such. Duchess posts Ephesians 6:10-18 here every day, but I wonder how many of us really read it and take it to heart. This IS a WAR on many levels, and it needs to be fought AND WON on many levels, with GOD’S Guidance, Help, and Protection.

CMinTN
kalbokalbs

Thanks for bringing over.

Needed that warmth and goodness.

CMinTN

No problem! 👍

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

45 posted his ‘Nation in Decline’ video.

https://truthsocial.com/users/realDonaldTrump/statuses/108790947668067601

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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scott467

The link to Truth Social shows DJT’s post, but it’s blank.

The Rumble link didn’t post.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Did you go to TS? Hit play on the video. Was hoping W would post the Rumble video for me. 🙂🤞

scott467

I did, but when I go there, there is no button to hit ‘play’, it’s like a tweet without any text, just a blank white space.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Are you goint to truthsocial.com, then 45’s account? The video is there, I think a green button to play.

scott467

Yep, but I didn’t go to his account, I can see DJT’s post, there just is nothing written (or if there was no writing, only a video, the video is not visible).

I clicked on DJT’s name to go to his account, and I can see other text posts of his, but not the video you referenced.

Maybe it’s because I’m not registered. I have tried to register before, but I never received the verification email. If they require a cell phone number, I can’t give them one.

scott467

It could be that one of my adblockers (or similar) is preventing the video from being visible.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎
scott467

Thank you bfly! 👍🙂

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

YW!

cthulhu

Would it not be a good idea to decentralize Washington, DC, before this happens?

TheseTruths

Yikes…

cthulhu

I figure this is more or less inevitable. And, frankly, considering the composition of the 535 House and Senate, a welcome change.

kalbokalbs

No. Decentralize, spreads the disease quicker. Isolate the disease and eradicate it.

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OK. Went back and watched the video. Standing by initial thoughts.

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para59r

Not as fast as a fly. Immobilize or blind it.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

So Haberman comes out w/the 45 flushed docs in WH toilet story earlier today which is all over MSM, then the FIB suddenly raids MAL. DId they use her article as justification before a judge? Look, 45 destroys records. Reminds of Isikoff/Yahoo/FISA ruse where reporter writes bogus article and FIB uses article as evidence in court. Tonight she’s backtracking, ‘I really don’t know if it’s true’. POS WINCH

https://twitter.com/PaulSperry30/status/1556873093955600384?s=20&t=WVRCJ2Ja76vCFEZ0P6zX6Q

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scott467

She is a dirty rotten WINCH, that’s for sure! 👍😁

Cuppa Covfefe

Time for someone to wake up Maggie…

kalbokalbs

Or stop reading Maggie nonsense.

Gail Combs

Maggie Who??? 😆 

kalbokalbs

Yea.

If it were not for a few posts here, I’d never have heard of, Maggie…who? 🙂

singingsoul1

It is crimminal now to rip paper and put it in the toilet? Who was with Trump in the toilet to see this? I ripped peper before and put it in the toilet . Is it criminal?

ROBERT BAKER

Sounds like Pelosi’s wrap-up smear. I guess we can forego Columbia’s Journalism School. It seems the FBI is spreading the syllabus for free.

kalbokalbs

The Stoopid is so strong on this toilet stuff, I have yet to click on any of the links.

Everything about this paper in the the toilet is ignorant on steroids.

TheseTruths

Jack Posobiec:

Maybe we should tell the FBI the Epstein client list is in Mar-a-Lago so they actually do something about it

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1556880226810036224?cxt=HHwWgIC8zamUk5srAAAA

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scott467

Nah, the Epstein client list is like a cloak of invisibility to the FIB. Anything you want to hide from the FIB, just put it under the Epstein client list.

Safest place in the whole world… 😁

marymorse

Think the lawyer that repped Epstein’s unindicted conspirators (Sarah Kellen and the escort pilot) has a copy?

He’s the judicial magistrate that approved the raid according to the NYPost.

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Kash said 45 declassified some of the documents (in his possession?) but that the stamps on them had not yet been updated. Wonder if they’ll try to hang him on those. Now this…..

https://twitter.com/PaulSperry30/status/1556875901199126529?s=20&t=WVRCJ2Ja76vCFEZ0P6zX6Q

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

More and more, this is all just bullshit to deny us Trump.

pgroup2

It’s those pesky details, annoying us again.

TheseTruths

Paul Sperry:

The Mar-a-Lago warrant has to show probable cause, including probable cause for cracking residential safe. It has to be iron-clad. Given the flimsy probable cause in FBI-HQ/DCFO warrants including FISA wiretaps targeting Trump advisers, it will be interesting to see the affidavit

https://twitter.com/PaulSperry30/status/1556836604379119618?cxt=HHwWhIC-lZWp_5orAAAA

Will we see the affidavit?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s probably “classified” in which case, no.

scott467

“Will we see the affidavit?”

___________

Any FOIA demand for it will likely be met the day after the 2024 election 👍 😉

kalbokalbs

Active Investigation.

DOJ, FIB, all of them assholes can NOT comment.

TheseTruths

And then if it went to court, no one would have standing. And since thousands of people in government can’t be fired, nothing changes. I think we are at a crossroads. The situation has to change in a huge way, and more and more people are realizing it.

TheseTruths

“The Real Toria Brooke” on Truth Social:

NEW 🚨 Rep. Paul Gosar and Rep. Jeff Duncan are calling to dismantle and eliminate the FBI in the wake of the bureau’s Mar-a-Lago raid. Simultaneously, Rep. Lauren Boebert is calling for a new select committee to be established to investigate the raid.

TheseTruths

Also: https://qaggregator.news

MAR-A-LAGO Originally from Germany, corporate flight attendant Jennifer Eady , 50, has supported @realDonaldTrump since 2015. Ms. Eady says she came to Mar-A-Lago tonight because the Biden administration and the Democrats are weaponizing the FBI and it has to stop. The FBI is not here to weaponize another President; it has never happened before.

Ms. Eady says: “[The FBI] should go after things that are clearly a violation, meaning the Hunter laptop—which they don’t even have to investigate—the evidence is right there. All the evidence is right there! Hillary, all of that is not investigated. President Trump is investigated because they’re scared that he’s running and he’ll win again. At this point they’ll do anything to stop our President from running again.”

She continues: “I hope a lot of Democrats will wake up and see that this is unheard of—it’s un-Presidential—unprecedented and it needs to stop. The corruption has to stop, the weaponization of the FBI has to stop, and I hope a lot of Democrats tonight wake up and see that this is wrong. It’s never been done to another President before. President Trump is on his way back, I was told by a source, and we’ll be here tomorrow as well to stand for our President—our rightful President.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Peacefully, make these assholes suffer. SHAME THEM in public.

Make the “cheering” West Wing quiver in FEAR of what they have unleashed.

Gail Combs

I already called the NC REPUBLICAN PARTY head quarters and gave THEM HELL for NOT going after Hillary and Hunter.

kalbokalbs

If they captured your phone number, they’ll return the call.

Asking for donations, in “Support of Trump”. /s

Gail Combs

And I will tell them they can kiss my  🦄 

RAC

Been retired for 7 years now, still have the alarm set for 05:00 as I like the luxury of closing my eyes for a few more minutes.
Half in and out of sleep heard the newsman say PDJT and raided, tail end of a report then went off with some other twaddle. What? Did I really hear that !
Got the computer winded up, shocking. First thoughts are, fishing expedition for the bent lawyers looking for anything they can twist, or more ominous something that may have been planted years back by a traitor, hopefully PDJT’s lawyers would have been through every thing and not just stored it without checking it.
Think the wait 24 hours thing is best to see what pans out.
RD needs to get his skates on and find out if as claimed he didn’t know, a poster OT described RD’s tweet as a thimbleful of piss, which seems about right.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is the bloody wake-up call of all time.

GET READY. The shit’s gonna hit the fan, but not until WE THROW IT ON GOD’S COMMAND.

The END of these fuckers is gonna be GLORIOUS.

Right now – SPIT IN THEIR FACES.

RAC

I see IntelSlava posted PDJT’s statement in full.

barkerjim

I would have the residence swept for electronics planted during the raid, too!

singingsoul1

I am sure that will be done. We are dealing with a KGB, Stasi type organization that has taken over.

scott467

“First thoughts are, fishing expedition for the bent lawyers looking for anything they can twist, or more ominous something that may have been planted years back by a traitor, hopefully PDJT’s lawyers would have been through every thing and not just stored it without checking it.”

__________

Wouldn’t need to be anything done years back, the FIB could have just walked in carrying the evidence they intended to plant with them.

It’s not as if they’re above that sort of thing, they’d do it in a heartbeat.

RAC

And sweep for bugs just in case they left anything behind.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I was thinking about making some kind of statement, but I think for now, the best thing to do is to DOUBLE DOWN on every ATTACK. Whatever you were doing to bring this regime down, DO IT MORE.

No violence, but show your COLD ANGER in no uncertain terms.

Brave and Free

This aggression by the FIB against PDJT reminds me of how Zero operates. Remember when his senate opponent was taken out of the race ?
Also believe they want to get a violent reaction to use as justification for the Senate to pass the latest gun grab bill. That would give cover for all the rhino and uniparty, ya know for the good of the country and all……..

mollypitcher5

They very well probably already have the violent horde ready to perform. This seems like the grand finale of the Liz Cheney Rino with hunt trial.

Cuppa Covfefe

Or “Fast and Furious” Holder, the slime-bucket carrier of the Swamp…
WrongBoxPoxBoilsButtBuddy of the Towel-Boy-In-Cheeks,er,Chief…

TheseTruths

At this point they would use a violent reaction to validate their false assertions about patriots being trigger-happy activists and insurrectionists,

trumpismine

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump is a hero, and the weaklings who hound him are evil assholes.

May they all see justice.

trumpismine

AMEN!

kalbokalbs

Totally befuddled here.

VSGPDJT says it in the statement: Hillary “wiped” 33K emails.

  • Breaking News. Got it. Well established, I think.

They’re going to go after other ex-presidents.

  • They’re going to go after other ex-presidents.
  • Did I miss something where they are going after hussein? Baby Bush? Slick Willy?

[insert Chess rook here]

  • NOT a Chess player. I know nothing about strategy.
  • IS there a Readers Digest version of whatever is implied above.
  • EVIDENCE anything IS happening? Will happen? Likely to happen? Relying on wishful thinking?

Yes, asking seriously. I am too damn slow to see whatever is being alluded to.

Links?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Recall that she continues to proceed on the assumption that the Biden Regime is total theater and the white hats are really in charge.

Of course if this understanding is correct (and it may not be; there’s my caveat) this puts her in the position of claiming a theater raid on a not-actually-former president can be used as precedent to justify a real raid on a different one.

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kalbokalbs

This assumes DOJ, FIB or anyone has the balls to enforce laws, where D-Rats Uniparty flagrantly break laws.

All them bastards seem to play on the same team. Against America.

Gail Combs

US MARSHALS…..

CMinTN

We the People…

kalbokalbs

They need to take charge.

kalbokalbs

As with Sheriff’s we keep hoping US Marshals aligned with the Constitution.

Tired of being disappointed and betrayed by our bedrock institutions.

trumpismine

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kalbokalbs

100%

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

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kalbokalbs

Second flag pole goes back up, with TRUMP 3 x 5 flag, along side Old Glory.

It is getting to the point my American Flag, will fly upside down. We’ll see what our Insurrectionist Government, does next. Bastards.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Time for Ultra MAGA to get LOUD!!!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎



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mollypitcher5

The Federal Police State has unmasked

CMinTN

Kinda makes it easier to sort out who’s who…

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎


kalbokalbs

Ted Cruz chiming in?

IIRC, last week, Ted Cruz THANKED ASSHOLE WRAY, in a hearing of sorts.

Wray should be savaged in EVERY HEARING. As should every shit head in BiteMe’s Administration.

Gloves gotta come off. Niceties tossed in the shit can.

Of course, fired and prosecuted, also appropriate.

GA/FL

The FBI raid on Mar A Lago smells like that little petty petulant communist Øbastid.

Øbastid abused the power of his office from day one.

Remember the Gibson Guitar Raid?

Remember the IRS targeting Conservatives?

Remember how Øbastid and Holder politicized and weaponized every agency and power of government against opponents of their regime?

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Gail Combs

Nah, the SS fits better.

singingsoul1

Brown shirts. No matter what we call it, it is the same communist fascist criminal dictatorship. KGB, Stasi, SS all the same. The outcome is all the same the oppression is the same and the criminal intend is the same.

GA/FL

Yep – Øbastid’s jackboot thugs.

TheseTruths

And Valerie Jarrett.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

(Aparrently Mike loses track of #’s 4 and 11 late at night, but we’ll forgive him, grateful he’s speaking out)

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GA/FL

Did Mike Lee speak out when Ø abused power by weaponizing every agency of government?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

I dunno.

kalbokalbs

Mike Lee IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

litenmaus

^^^^^^^ Yes, yes he is…..

Tonawanda

He has zero credibility with our side. There is almost zero chance he is unaware of this. Yet he continues his bizarre kabuki show.

Valerie Curren

Had to go to ThreadReader to see #11 in the series…wonder why?

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1556816657674289154.html

Eleventh, did FBI Director Christopher Wray intentionally wait to carry out the raid until after his oversight hearing with the Senate Judiciary Committee last week? 

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Interesting….Did you see #4. TY.

Valerie Curren

Yes, here it is from TR

Fourth, if this really is about presidential records, why would the former president — who was himself in charge of declassifying documents at the time he obtained and had unfettered access to them — be subject to prosecution to hanging onto classified documents?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

TY! Wonder why they didn’t show up on his tw feed? Glad to know Lee can count properly 😂

Valerie Curren

Yes! It’s suspicious that those are what is apparently being actively suppressed…

Cuppa Covfefe

Perhaps they were intentionally missing (i.e. messaging):

Fourth amendment – illegal search and seizure
Eleventh amendment –

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

Just a thought…

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Tuesday, August 9, 2022

“But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.” 

Philippians 4:19 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!!!

duchess01