Dear KMAG: 20231030 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

woonerf

noun

  • a road in a residential district which uses various measures to calm traffic.
  • a living street, as originally implemented in the Netherlands and in Flanders (Belgium).

Used in a sentence

Wolf thinks that the word woonerf looks appropriately Dutch. He finds the concept fascinating, because there is little difference between woonerfs and “tiny, bad, and poorly maintained public streets mixed with small private drives, alleys, and overly long driveways, all mixed into a residential mess where you’re not actually sure where the road ends and something else begins.” Not that he’s ever seen such a place!

Wikipedia entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woonerf


A Bit of Music

Let’s start off with a Wheatie Tree!

OK – let’s go right into some strings!

It’s 2 hours long, so feel free to quit when you’ve had enough.

OK – how about some live strings? More of that “fiddle gal”!

This will become relevant later – just trust me on that!

Oh, man, I need some country after that!

Here’s Copperhead Road like y’all never heard it.

And now, back to business. Well, maybe.


Tweety Tweets ‘n’ Stuff!

The mouse is loose! AGAIN!

Moar Sister Toldjaso!

The Molnupiravir Contradiction

Why would we mass treat a virus with a drug which forces the virus to mutate, when mutation is how the virus creates new variants that reinfect the vaccinated? Before I explain the title contradiction, let me start with an admission. Most of my life, I have been very friendly with the pharmaceutical industry. I …


Speaking of such things – let’s look at future body count, shall we….

7%? That’s probably enough for Klaus. It’s a down payment.

Pray for those Branch Covidians who didn’t listen.

And here’s a suggestion to some folks out there….

Now – take a look at that hole in the ozone layer!

Scar-a-Mooch! Scar-a-Mooch! Make him do the Fandango!

And how about some absolutely fascinating history of science and mathematics? This one is not only rewarding, but rather easy to understand.

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

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cthulhu

Sanitation is important. Here —

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WSB

LOVE the petite snow caps!

cthulhu
TradeBait2

Which. always leads to this first step if we desire for it to end.

Jeremiah 14:20

We know our wickedness, Lord,
The wrongdoing of our fathers, for we have sinned against You.

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Aubergine

I agree with every word of this.

Valerie Curren

Excellent read! Multiple scenes from The Patriot movie come to mind…

cthulhu

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TradeBait2

👍

TheseTruths

I started watching the Euclid video and am looking forward to watching the rest.

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

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scott467

Stroke is bad, right?

Could the increased risk of stroke lead to a serious case of that thing, you know… died suddenly?

If the preliminary results turn out to be the same as the confirmed results, and the confirmed results are permanent… hey, now wait a minute… does that mean if you die suddenly, that could be permanent too?

What are they trying to say here?

TradeBait2

🤣

Sadly, that logic train is missed by millions in this country.

Gingersmom2009

Wonder if Mr. Pfizer was aware of this? I’m sure he would have passed on the cringe commercial . . .

pgroup2

Nice to hear from you.  🙂 

Gail Combs

Glad you decided to comment!

kalbokalbs

🙂

PAVACA

Nice to see you here!
Pfizer-BioNTech AND the FDA knew BACK IN APRIL, 2021, that the company’s modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” DOES cause AT LEAST THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF STROKE.
Please refer to the discussion thread of Yours Truly’s separate blog post for The Q Tree, posted Saturday 28 October 2023—
http://www.theqtree.com/2023/10/28/the-covid-19-virus-and-the-modrna-covid-19-vaccines-induce-accelerated-aging/
Information about the stroke connections is brought over to the discussion thread via our good Gail Combs.

Gingersmom2009

It seems Pfizer is designated to be thrown under the bus, to divert attention from the actual DoD operation – military countermeasures. We have a close family member who almost died from lung clotting – two days after her second dose.

TheseTruths

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scott467

He might as well have died with a hypodermic sticking out of his forehead.

pgroup2

A unicorn!

Cuppa Covfefe

With what the vax appears to be intended to do,
a Eunuch-corn…

Gail Combs

I like Chris Paul’s come back.

“You sound fully vaccinated…”

pgroup2

Sharp as a stiletto.

TheseTruths

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TradeBait2

^^^ This.

There was no reason to debate for something he already had locked up. If it was to help select a VP candidate that resonated with Americans – maybe. But he already knows who he wants will be accepted by MAGA.

rayzorback

My picks: (not necessarily this order)

Lake
Carson
Noem
Palin (I know… not much chance – Optics)

Gail Combs

I think Lake or Carson. I really like BOTH.

Actually I am hoping that Lake becomes gov first. Carson (born September 18, 1951) is now more ‘seasoned’ and would make a fine president in the future with Lake as his VP.

rayzorback

Lake checks the “Female” box and
Carson checks the “Cultural” box(es).

Kari would be a great Gov. After her Gov selection was stolen, she is currently running for US Senate.
Could become Gov IF we had HONEST selections. Maybe 2020 will be overturned at some point?

pgroup2

2020 cannot be overturned. It can, however, be shown to have been fraudulently obtained.

kalbokalbs

Lake

Robinson

Byron

rayzorback

who is robinson?

kalbokalbs

LtGov NC. Noem, would also be good.

Edit. Last line deleted as I mixed up name AND stuff they support.

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Gail Combs

He is running for NC Governor. I hope he is voted in and later gets into the White house after seasoning as a gov.

WSB

Noem is GOPe in hiding.

pgroup2

Choosing Byron would remove one of our congresscritters.

WSB

Navarro.

Valerie Curren

Like!

WSB

And Navarro would scare the crap out of anyone trying to take President Trump away from office.

TEE HEE HEE.

rayzorback

Yup

WSB

I never even thought about that. Pence is not smart enough verbally.

And he is a wimp stooge.

TheseTruths

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Aubergine

This echoes something I’ve said for years:

Actual virtue doesn’t require a “signal.”

I thought about putting it on a t-shirt.

Cuppa Covfefe

Speaking of T-shirts,

(H/T another ian over at Chiefio’s):

From a comment at Jo Nova –

‘T-shirt slogan of the week

“Don’t call me an anti-vaxxer.

I’m Mrs. Doubt Pfizer” ‘

TheseTruths

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Gail Combs

AND, those African nations were the stationed US TROOPS ARE HATED are the SAME African Nations that are sending MILITARY AGE MALES across our Southern Border.

At this point I do not give a Flying Middle Finger about those African nations fighting with each other. REMEMBER Whites in South Africa are being driven off their land and/or exterminated BUT THE USA WILL NOT ACCEPT THEM AS IMMIGRANTS unless they pony up a large amount of cash (A quart million or more. I do not remember the exact amount my SA friend told me a few years ago except for the million word.)

TheseTruths

🔥🔥🔥

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scott467

Nasty Nikki is like a parody of a corrupt politician.

eilert

I like that:

“Time to follow Mike Pence off-stage” (especially since that Traitor endorsed her now)

TheseTruths

specially since that Traitor endorsed her now

Pence endorsed Haley? Another nail in his political coffin.

Gail Combs

I never ‘abandoned’ Ukraine in the first place. And tell me WHAT Israel has done for me? NOTHING

So quit Trying to GUILT TRIP ME YOU TRAITOROUS COMMIE BITCH!

Remember She is the one that started all the destruction of US memorials with removing Robert E Lee’s Battle Flag.

rayzorback

Correctamundo…. as Rush would say.

TradeBait2

Boom worthy!

WSB

Being a foreigner, why is Haley demanding the US give blood or treasure?

TheseTruths

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Former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal said Sunday on MSNBC’s “Inside” that it was likely former President Donald Trump would be jailed for violating a gag order.

He says, “Judges, I don’t care what your politics are, the one thing you understand when you put out that robe is that it is about the legitimacy of the court and about the judicial process.”

If Trump goes to jail, it will be because he intended for it to happen, given the circumstances.

pgroup2

DJT is not going to jail, for contempt or any other reason.

scott467

But the court isn’t legitimate and hasn’t been for years, and everybody knows it.

To pretend that judges are virtuous by virtue of being judges just makes him look like an imbecile.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“Your honor” is often a sick joke.

TheseTruths

Yes. I took him to mean that “judges gonna judge”; in other words, they operate on the principle that whatever rulings have been made have to be followed through.

He might think all judges are virtuous, though, which obviously is not true.

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

On October 30, 1735, John Adams was born.
John Adams and Samuel Adams were second cousins. Abigail Adams was John Adams’ third cousin. John Quincy Adams was their son.

On October 30, 1748, Martha Wayles Skelton, wife of Thomas Jefferson, was born.

If you look for images of Martha Jefferson, you are only likely to find drawings of her like this one. This might seem strange at first. Wouldn’t the wife of one of the earliest Presidents have sat for a portrait? We have portraits of Martha Washington and Abigail Adams, Dolly Madison, Elizabeth Monroe and Louisa Adams. The truth is that Martha died 18 years before Jefferson became President so she was never the famous figure in her lifetime that she would have been had she become the First Lady. Thomas Jefferson never did remarry so he was single when he was President.

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Martha Jefferson had been married once before her marriage to Thomas Jefferson, but her husband had died young. They had one child, but he died as a toddler. Martha apparently had frequent health problems. She and Jefferson had six children, only two of whom lived to adulthood and only one of them survived past age 25.

Little is known about Martha’s education but according to eyewitnesses she was musically talented and an avid reader. She helped Martha Washington raise $300,000 for shirts for the Continental Army during the American Revolution. Martha died [on September 6, 1782, at the age of 34] shortly after the birth of her last child, sending Jefferson into an inconsolable grief that took him months to come out of.

She died about a year before the official end of the Revolution. Difficult times for Thomas Jefferson!

Martha Jefferson as protrayed by Blythe Danner in the movie 1776:

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TradeBait2

I was totally unaware of this, thanks TT. It helps to explain Thomas Jefferson’s mindset at various points in his amazing life.

TheseTruths

I too was previoiusly unaware.

Please

Blythe Danner also the mom of Gwyneth Paltrow, and the resemblance is easy to see here.

WSB

It is!

WSB

I LOVED 1776!!!! Watch it every Independence Day!

The history revered, and having been to the most solemn catacomb of the Adams interred in the church John Quincy built for his parents, his wife and himself in Quincy, MA was a highlight of my history travels in life.

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I doubt many know about this. Very accessible. Will bring tears to your eyes if you have read the history of what the Adams did for the birth of our country.

Valerie Curren

Thank you for sharing this   💟   💙 

WSB

You are so welcome, Valerie.

This is a very special place, because for better or worse, this family was the bulwark of our Republic. Now, what shall we do to preserve it?

WSB

I felt as though I was meeting each one of them. Odd.

Valerie Curren

I had that feeling when I was on the hunt for my mom’s birth family. At one point it was almost as if I “knew” her birth mom as she was as a young woman, she felt that alive to me, just from reading the tidbits I could find in historical newspapers & websites…

WSB

The church in Quincy, Ma.

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Valerie Curren

Where JQ got his middle name perhaps…or was the place named for him?

WSB

Yes indeed. A bit convoluted. Quincy is part of Braintree.

I grew up not too far from Braintree, and it is STILL Braintree…so the history and changes of places are a bit odd, most of family lots, I suppose…also pronounced Quinzy.

This from Wikipoo to give a quick bit of history.

“John Quincy Adams was born on July 11, 1767, to John and Abigail Adams (née Smith) in a part of BraintreeMassachusetts, that is now Quincy.[5] He was named after his mother’s maternal grandfather, Colonel John Quincy, after whom Quincy, Massachusetts, is also named. Colonel Quincy died two days after his great-grandson’s birth.”

Valerie Curren

TYVM

We have a town in Michigan that was named after a son of one of my great grandmothers. She was Mahala Bradley Ash Cardinal (we descend through the Cardinal line) & her son Mr. Ash was the founder of Ashton. I can’t remember if it was him or his brother, supposedly Hank Ash, who, according to family lore, was a prisoner on a ship on the Great Lakes during some type of battle & he was freed from his chains to assist in the defense of the ship. He preformed w/ such skill that he helped turn the battle & was later pardoned by President Lincoln. My dad claimed that his aunt had that pardon framed & in her home that later burned down so the document was lost…

When I ran across Ashton in doing family history research I was surprised to see some of the family lore to be, at least partially, substantiated 🙂

WSB

Oh my goodness, how wonderful to find that, even though the fire.

Where does the Cardinal name come from? and Mahala?

Valerie Curren

Cardinal is supposedly French Canadian & a distortion of Cargainelle. My genealogically minded aunt made those claims but I’ve seen no proof of that exactly. The Cardinals did come from Canada a couple generations before marrying into the Stoddards in the late 1800s. They all were farmers in Michigan for a few generations before my GGF went into lumbering & ultimately came to Detroit around 1900 to manage the lumber yard for his boss.

I wrote about some of these things in another Q-Tree post here:

https://www.theqtree.com/2022/11/11/leftys-view-of-wwii-by-wild-bill/

Mahala Bradley was the daughter of Lemuel Bradley & they were in the Rice Lake area of NY, iirc, before some of them migrated to Michigan, which was pretty much frontier then. I think many of my Michigan ancestors came from NY after the Erie Canal opened up.

Mahala might have some Indian blood & be Metis as might the Cardinals. There is an Indian Princess legend in the family & some old photos of Mahala & some Cardinal men make it look like they Could have diluted Native American blood. If so the rumored tribe is Chippewa or Ojibway 🙂

Mahala is mentioned here:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8203517/george-d-cardinal

WSB

Oh my. I am in NY.

Valerie Curren

Many of my ancestors spent some generations in NY. I think Orringh Stoddard, the Rev. War ancestor, was granted bounty land there. They were mostly in Broome County before heading into the heartland of Michigan’s lower peninsula…some, like the Bradleys were in Rice Lake & others from the Cooperstown area, iirc…

WSB

So, they must have traveled on the northern route across to Michigan.

Valerie Curren

Perhaps, but I honestly don’t know, but wish I did or at least knew how to Try to find out 🙂

WSB

I have yet to click in the link, yet it seems that side of your family came from Canada south to the English colonies, or what is now the US?

Valerie Curren

Yes the Cardinals came from Canada, part of Ontario (I think called Canada East then), to America but may have lived in the territories before statehood. I’d have to dig into the dates & locations further to “know”.

I didn’t realize that Michigan was actually part of the Northwest Territory at one point. We didn’t have to take Michigan history in school & I’m sorely lacking in that arena apart from mostly personal family history from some gregarious relations.

My husband has ancestry from the Netherlands on his mom’s side if we go back far enough based on published histories by his Hagerman ancestors (James John & his son Percy). According to one of their claims Michael’s ancestors once owned one of the islands around NYC, I forget which one, but those details aren’t firm in my head.

I do recall that JJH was born in Canada & descended from United Empire Loyalists, who were Americans that fought alongside the British to try to put down the Rebellion. They fled to Canada where they were lauded as heroes but likely perceived as traitors by their former American neighbors.

In digging in to details of personal family history it ends up exposing American history & beyond. It’s quite a fascinating pursuit, genealogy that is, & can become quite addicting in numerous arenas too 🙂

Valerie Curren
WSB

He was born in NY!

Valerie Curren

That’s sweet!

That might be one of the Newfane, Niagara County, NY relations…if memory serves. It’s possible that a group of people, relatives & perhaps some friends made the trek together. I’m not sure if that was before or after Mahala married Joseph Cardinal for her first husband was buried in NY…So she either migrated as a widowed mother or a remarried one–tough stuff all around!

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Valerie Curren

My grandfather was, presumably, named after his mother’s maternal grandfather, Leroy Zolvan Munger, known usually as LZ Munger. My GF was Elzine Munger (sounds like LZ M) Stoddard. My assumption is based on the sounds of “Elzine” & “LZ” though I don’t have exact proof, just supposition, that this was how he was named too  😊 

WSB

Valerie, how and when and where did your family come to the shores of America?

Stoddard seems to be an old English or Scott name, no?

Valerie Curren

I just actually answered that in another reply to you. There were several Colonial Stoddard lines & mine comes from John Stoddard of Wethersfield, CT. It’s never been proven where in England nor Exactly when he came to America. He married Mary Foote, daughter of Nathaniel Foote & Elizabeth Deming & the Footes hailed from Bury St. Edmonds, iirc. I think it was said that JS was also from that region. He was here by 1642, I think, as he was listed as a juror but I can’t remember if that was in Watertown or Wethersfield or even if he was married yet.

I believe Stoddard was English. According to my aunt, who did genealogy work as a student, the Stoddard name comes from “de la Standard” & our ancestor was the Standard Bearer for William the Conqueror. I consider that Highly speculative since we cannot “prove” where JS came from or who his ancestors are. Stoddard is more likely a derivative of Stud-herd, like a horse keeper/herder. Or to quote Gimli in Lord of the Rings “horse master” LOL

WSB

Understood. The ancient names are facinating!

I have been able to trace my family back to Konrad Fenner in the Netherlands from 1642 but can take family back to the 1300’s.

By the Mormons, no less!

They are a great source for wading across the pond! My grandfather asked for their assistance in this endeavor and lo and behold, they were able to connect the dots.

Amazingly with historical artifacts, headstones and other evidence. Marvelous!

And touché for your own family’s efforts.

Valerie Curren

That’s exceptionally fun & hopefully accurate.

I play around in Family Search (free) & Ancestry (free via library access) which are both affiliated w/ Mormons, who are religiously motivated in their genealogical pursuits.

Hilariously, using FS I was able to “trace” (link to existing genealogies done by other people) one rootlet on my personal family tree all the way back to Adam & Eve LOL

I knew this was so highly speculative to be beyond belief, but someone has claimed that these linkages exist so I even printed off that direct ancestry for “proof”.

This convenient assured fiction goes through many heads of state throughout Europe, multiple Caesars, & ultimately known biblical characters.

I don’t remotely take it seriously but love that I found one thread in my tree that allows that Speculative ancestry!

I really hope what the Mormons did for your family is much better supported w/ documentation & not flights of fantasy LOL

cthulhu

I should note that one of the major software tools for tracing genealogies was purchased by a “private” firm of dubious ownership. My mom, a fan, stopped interacting with that one because she couldn’t tell who else might be using the information.

This dovetails with recent criminal cases where DNA was traced to a relative of the perp.

Cuppa Covfefe

Blackrock just bought Ancestry.com, if that’s what you’re thinking of… and Blackrock has a piece of just about everyone else.

Adding those together, the DNA samples that Ancestry.com has is probably what Blackrock was after, and now they (or their Satanic masters) have the ability to use that info, as does Pfizer and the rest of the killer-vaxx community…

Tailor-made clot shots…

WSB

Count me out!

Valerie Curren

That sounds plausible   :wpds_evil: 

WSB

I wold agree. LOLOLOL!!!

Valerie Curren

Yep w/ all the psychopaths bent on ruling the world, even as they systematically depopulate it, anything that might give those demons an edge over us could, & perhaps even would, be used against us All  😡  I thought that even the bioweapon called covid 19 was engineered to be somewhat more dangerous to certain ethnic, racial, &/or genetic groups…surely by dastardly design…

Valerie Curren

My cousin who put together than family genealogy book I mentioned died before I could ask him, but I got his widow’s permission to edit & update that book, for it contained numerous errors based on my own direct knowledge. We are all amateur genealogists but I believe I have a more rigorous standard of “proof” and “documentation” of genealogical data than was shown in the family book.

When my aunt did her work she interviewed her grandfather & charted his recollections of all the relatives he personally knew. She plotted this out in a geneagram, iirc, & has gifted me with her raw materials as I’m the most interested in pursuing these lines of inquiry.

The link from my great-grandpa’s personal knowledge & the John Stoddard of Wethersfield info, & that historical author has made known errors in his claims, is somewhat tenuous. Basically that branch of our Stoddard tree that headed to Michigan was lost to the author of JSoW. If I ever get diligent in this pursuit I hope to “verify” these connections to the point of increasing solidity.

WSB

Not many people can even get near this!

Valerie Curren

Well if you are “lucky” enough to connect to a published work that is a blessing but also a potential burden if the published info is (even partially) wrong.

Serious genealogists caution people to work backwards from the known to the unknown. With a link to a published work it’s like getting cheat codes to a video game that let you artificially beat a boss character that your actual acquired skills can’t best without the cheat on hand.

So I Really hope that the link to that extensive published genealogy holds whenever I decide to get more diligent about verification 🙂

WSB

I guess you might call it a hamlet of Braintree by John Quncy’s grandfather.

Zip Code 02169-02171

or, Quincy overtook little Braintree!

Braintree Zip Codes – 02184- 02185

LOL!!!!

Valerie Curren

My ancestor, John Stoddard of Wethersfield (as described in an early colonial lineage book), allegedly came to America in the early 1640s & stayed briefly in Watertown, MA before heading into the frontier & helping to establish the town of Wethersfield, CT, where several generations of the family stayed. Later his GS, also my direct ancestor, helped found Litchfield, CT.

We were on a trip to visit my husband’s brother in Wellesley about 20 years ago & ended up spending the night near Stockbridge, Berkshire Co., MA where my Revolutionary War ancestor mustered out of. Ironically we ended up following the most prominent roads that basically took us, unexpectedly, on that reverse family history journey from Stockbridge to Litchfield to Wethersfield to Watertown region…

One of my old college roommates lived in Beverly for a while & I spent a break from grad school there with her once.

WSB

Oh goodness, Valerie, I have been many times on that road. I live not too far from. I know Wethersfield VERY well! I grew up in Old Saybrook.

And now, I can drive to Stockbridge fairly quickly.

My own heritage is not far from yours, 1743 landing in Philadelphia. Our family still has an early18th c farm and mill running in PA. Three brothers from Rotterdam. PA Revolutionary War veterans all.

Valerie Curren

Wow that’s amazing! I don’t recall that I have (known) PA ancestry. For some reason when I hear the names of the 3 rivers, Susquehanna, Monongahela, & Allegheny I still get goosebumps, especially from the first 2. It makes me wonder if some part of my blood hails from that region???

OK now that I think about it I think my mom’s birthfather’s family may have come through OH from PA before his branch settled in MI…I’ll have to do more digging!

Valerie Curren

When we were on that trip Stockbridge was having a library sale so I picked up some old books & a library tote just to have something tangible from the ancestral stomping grounds.

Is Old Saybrook near Wethersfield?

We have a family genealogy book compiled by a late cousin & my aunt that has multiple genealogical pages photocopied from some old source, I think out of Wethersfield. They didn’t copy the Source info so I don’t know how to verify…& expand…on what they did…sigh 🙂 well at least not “easily” LOL

WSB

Old Saybrook is on the north coast of the Long Island Sound.

Wethersfield is not close by near .

Valerie Curren

My mistake…

I live not too far from. I know Wethersfield VERY well! I grew up in Old Saybrook.”

“Wethersfield is not close by near .”

I am not familiar with these usages. Are these perhaps regional colloquialisms? For some reason they conjure up a possible Old World accent in my imagination 🙂

WSB

MY typing mistake!!!! I meant Wethersfield is close by!!!

Wethersfield is up the Connecticut River from Old Saybrook where it flows into the LI Sound.

And currently, Wethersfield is about an hour and a half from my current location.

Valerie Curren

Ah…I thought that I was the “idiot” LOL It’s strange to me w/ the smaller New England area states how close things are together compared to the Mid-West, let alone the West. I think it blows Europeans away that the US, one country, has perhaps more land mass than the entire Continent of Europe…not that I can understand how they decided to artificially divide the Eurasian land mass into “separate” continents 😉 😉

Valerie Curren

I clearly need to brush up on my geography. There is this one genealogist I really enjoy reading who uses maps to great effect to help explain her family history journeys. Some day I’d like to do similar work on my own family lines…

Here’s a link to her latest blog post that ironically deals w/ handling some of the DNA issues that have lately arisen 🙂

https://dna-explained.com/2023/10/29/23andme-dna-relatives-connections-event-history-report-and-other-security-tools/

Valerie Curren

Rotterdam sounds like German extraction.

My mom’s birth mother’s family were Germans who came to America in the early/mid 1800s & were in IN for some years before settling in the Lansing/Grand Rapids area of MI. They came from the Black Forest area in Baden Baden in Germany…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The original Rotterdam is in the Netherlands.

Valerie Curren

Thank You! I should have recalled that for I recently read a fictionalized account of a WWII female assassin who worked between the Netherlands & France taking out Nazi officers. Rotterdam was one of the main places of action in that book. My memory is far from it’s glory days 😉

WSB

Indeed, Steve.

WSB

Dutch.

Valerie Curren

My mistake, blush, see also my reply to Steve…

Valerie Curren

When we were contemplating moving to the Grand Rapids area of MI our old assistant pastor said of that region “If you ain’t Dutch, you ain’t much!” LOL

Valerie Curren

“Our family still has an early18th c farm and mill running in PA. ”

What a huge blessing! I once found the deed to the old family homestead–near Ashton, MI, that my GF & his siblings sold off sometime after the death of their grandparents–while doing genealogical sleuthing at my parents’ Cottage, where my dad’s parents retired & my husband & I lived for a year & a half as newlyweds. They sold the acreage to the Grosse Pointe (ritzy Detroit suburb) Hunt Club…sigh. It broke my heart to see that that family history site was no longer still in our family–it was like 120 acres too…But it did have my GGGM’s signature on the deed, & she was one that moved from NY to MI along w/ her husband–score!

Once we were at the farm of my dad’s longest friend, since 3rd grade w/ both in their mid-80s now, which was by Reed City, near Ashton. My GF was with us on this one particular trip. He pointed out 3 towering pines that were marking the grave of his Grandmother’s, iirc, broken doll. I mean that’s some family history literally bursting from the land! I wish I’d paid better attention for I doubt I could ever find that exact spot again. I hope those pines are still standing 🙂

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WSB

PS Litchfield, CT is STILL beautiful! Are you near there?

Valerie Curren

No I live in Metro Detroit & have for most of my life  🙄 

Valerie Curren

I wish that we’d had time to take it in instead of just pass through on a Long journey!

cthulhu

When we went to Saint Petersburg, Russia, we spent quite a bit of time just schlepping about, marveling at the scenery and deciphering the signs in Cyrillic.

Imagine our surprise when we came upon a stone at a corner that was in English and commemorated John Quincy Adams’ stay in Russia 1809-1814 (turning down a seat on SCOTUS along the way).

Valerie Curren

Amazing! Well before the psychopaths took out the Czar/Tsar who was helping thwart the ongoing, duplicitous Brit back-stabbing ascendency, if I recall some of Gaill’s “teachings” correctly…

WSB

John, Abigail, John Quincy, and Louise. Distress flag position for the men, wreaths for the ladies.

WSB

Spell check…Louisa!

WSB

Here is the only photograph I know of which is the last portrait of John Adams at Peacefield, his retirement home about a few blocks from the church.

Have been through this lovely and very different pre-nineteenth century estate (purchased by John in 1787). So different than the farm that John had, and Abigail mastered for so many years while John was abroad.

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Here is the house…

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Valerie Curren

What that man’s eyes must have seen & his mind comprehended–awed!

WSB

Isn’t that the most God-sightful portrait you have ever seen?

This haunts me to this day.

At one point in the John Adams biography by David McCollough, he writes of John Adams and baby John Quincy Adams being chased by pirates as they were on their way to France on the high seas.

And Abigail acquiesed for husband John to take his 11? 9? year old son on this trip?

I would have died from fright. And yet Abigail became a farmer and had her’ flock’ of other children to tend to.

Honestly, if one person tonight takes up the biography of John Adams by McCullough…DO IT!!!

If only to understand the sacrifice of one family we will need to endure if we want to save or claw back a republic.

Valerie Curren

I doubt Anyone alive could compare to these our forebears & superiors. We bask in the lingering radiance of their brilliance!

WSB

Thank you, Valerie!

Valerie Curren

Whenever I think of our forbears crossing seas in ships it’s overwhelming to even attempt to comprehend. Adding in piracy on top of disease, storms, stircrazyness, sea-sickness, sexcapades, well it goes well beyond what I might imagine…

WSB

PS Look at the size of his head and the tiny size of the body. My guess, he was gifted with that large head by God!

My TH ( Taller Half) saw Richard Burton on Broadway in Camelot. He was amazed at how large of a head Burton had in proportion to his body.

One never saw this on film. Maybe it was to remind all of us about Shakespeare!

LOL!!!! I can just imagine his sharp response to anyone who was a dumbass.

Valerie Curren

LVE All of this!!!

WSB

I must tell you that I was in The Park Avenue Cafe in NYC one night in the kitchen dining room. The room is in the basement in the middle of the kitchen, glass-enclosed.

We were told Bob Goulet was upstairs having dinner.

The ten of us demanded Bob come down with his wife for a couple of night caps! We kept at it…”BOB, BOB, BOB!!!’

He DID!!!

And Bob sang the National Anthem for us, and had a few glasses of port!

Better time none other!

I also must say that when I was refurbishing the Ritz-Carlton DC, Bob came in with his lovely red-headed wife (of which I am also, not lovely but red-headed) and we had the loviest time visiting with them both.

I am so glad you brought him up tonight. Two degrees of separation, Valerie!

Valerie Curren

I’m also enjoying our “intersectionality” LOL What a precious & personal memory to treasure  😍 

WSB

What fun we are having!!! I cannot sleep tonight and am so glad for your friendship, Valerie!!!!!

Valerie Curren

OK TY WSB! I was away for a bit as my husband was getting ready for work & I was telling him about enjoying speaking with you too! The Q-Tree is an incredibly special place to connect! Many Blessings…& a virtual hug to boot 🙂

Valerie Curren

I found another Mahala Bradley Ash (Cardinal implied) reference here, but not her grave…

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8178486/joseph-wilbur-ash

Sorry for just dropping it here but this is where I am on the page & you’ve been so indulgent in our conversation.

Oh & I remembered another NY family history location, Newfane, Niagara County, NY 🙂

& here’s a teaser blurb from someone who left a note on a relation’s grave…

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George Ash was actually the son of Cynthia (Bradley) Ash. He marred Mahala Bradley (daughter of Lemuel H. (Harnden) Bradley and Catherine Waite; his first cousin. They had two known children and possibly four before his death.
Left by MEB on 31 Jan 2014

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/50393069/george-ash

& this is probably not my relative but has a Loyalist tale of a widow so historically fascinating…

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/225608139/lemuel-bradley

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WSB

WAY up!!!

Valerie Curren

We once saw Bob Goulet in a stage production in Tulsa. There was a local performer, short, unattractive in appearance, larger than life personality also in the cast. When the play was done that local actor got a wilder audience reception than did BG, who “acted” fine w/ being upstaged 😉 😉 The local guy had impromptu saved a scene that got out of hand when a prop radiator started climbing up a wall when the rope that the principals had secured to it to climb out the window actually pulled the “radiator” off the floor. The local guy cracked everybody up w/ how he handled it & he was much Loved for this skill! When ever I see BG in that Scrooged commercial I remember this vignette from our “youth” w/ warm fuzzies  😍 

Cuppa Covfefe

He also did a cameo in Weird Al’s “You Don’t Love Me Anymore”… and years before, “The Lucy Show”…


Valerie Curren

TY Cuppa!

Cuppa Covfefe

Richard Burton had the most incredible diction. Here’s a short clip of him on the Dick Cavett show, discussing his Welsh upbringing in a coal miner’s family, and just painting a wonderful picture of those times… great interview (I think there are more, longer ones out there)….

Valerie Curren

What a lovely voice & such illustrative story telling  😊 

Cuppa Covfefe

The filename when I go to save the upper photograph is
“john-quincy-adams-1843-first-presidential-photograph”….

Is that supposed to be John Adams or John Quincy Adams? Or did the website have the wrong filename…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I hope they flipped that image. Otherwise the flags are backwards.

Those are, by the way 15 star, 15 stripe flags (like flew over Fort McHenry on a certain night in 1812).

cthulhu

The name in the stone is legible and forwards. The flags honor the deceased.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I did not realize that reversing the flag was the custom in that case.

WSB

I am so sorry, Steve. I did not explain.

Yes, the US Flag is positioned in many ways to message.

Either horizontally across a fallen hero or stationed or flown or positioned as a reverse in distress or death.

And Steve, I have a flag I have flown for about twenty years. It normally lies on my wall outside my front door. It is large. 7×5.

The correct way is now very faded. The distress hanging would mean that I would reverse it. It would be non-faded, I would be putting myself out to this hanging and quite a few people would know why I am doing this.

Being older with a potentially older vet in the house, should I do this? Asking from the Hudson Valley.

Valerie Curren

“The correct way is now very faded. The distress hanging would mean that I would reverse it. It would be non-faded, I would be putting myself out to this hanging and quite a few people would know why I am doing this.

Being older with a potentially older vet in the house, should I do this? Asking from the Hudson Valley.”

In my own “feelings” for my own family the distress hanging is entirely appropriate, but our flag is in the “normal” position as I’ve never discussed it w/ my husband & neither of us are vets. I have no idea if very many people in our neighborhood would know what we were actually saying or not.

If the “older vet” is cognizant & communicative perhaps discussing this option would help your decision making…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well you have an option (assuming the wall is large enough). You didn’t specify whether you’re displaying it horizontally or vertically, but whichever way it is, you can change to the other. Since the blue-and-stars are always supposed to be in the upper left, you have to turn the flag over to switch between vertical and horizontal display.

WSB

Steve, those are distress signal, death positions for fallen soldiers or heads of State.

Valerie Curren

I didn’t know that–TY!

WSB

Steve, John Adams died on July 4, 1826.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes. But it’s nevertheless a 15 star flag in the foreground.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m not complaining about the 15 star flag; it’s a nice touch.

Valerie Curren

Well you can read “John” correctly so likely Not a flipped image  😶 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, I’ve had this conversation twice already.

Valerie Curren

Now you sound like my husband! LOL sorry I didn’t scroll down to avoid the repeat  😘 

cthulhu

Deja vu all over again?

Valerie Curren

 😍 

WSB

There you be, Val. OMG, bless you!

Wow. We are really having a history lesson tonight!

This actually a very good thing!

cthulhu

One does wonder why it has to be on yesterday’s thread…..

Valerie Curren

LOL, just meandering the conversational pathways… 🙂

Valerie Curren

It’s a good team effort here for sure…AND fun too 

WSB

The flag when they died.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Indeed. I actually own a 15star/15stripe flag and I fly it on the anniversary of Ft. McHenry.

Any “old” flag is still legal. I’ll fly the Betsy Ross on July 4th and other holidays relating to the Revolutionary War. I have the more standard 13 star design (rows of 3, 2, 3, 2, 3 set up a lot like our current flag with it possible to visualize diagonal lines through the stars) on dates relevant to the Constitution. [There’s little evidence that we actually used the Betsy Ross design very much at all, actually.] And I have a 38 star flag for Colorado Statehood Day.

Except I haven’t flown a thing since Biden got inaugurated.

Valerie Curren

Wow you are a very diligent AND historically accurate Patriot! I would guess the 15 star flag represents the first 2 states added to the Union after the original 13 colonies. Is Ft. McHenry where Francis Scott Key was looking for the colors when he wrote the Star Spangled Banner? Sorry I’m historically illiterate in a number of arenas, which you may have had occasion to notice LOL

fwiw on Tuesday’s thread someone posted the FBI “terrorist” symbols associated w/ “right wingers” & I think they have both the Betsy Ross & the Gadsen flags as signs which bear watching. Pretty flipping outrageous when these, or at least the BR flag, are still legal. I cannot stand these extreme psychopaths trying to destroy every aspect of our society, past AND present  😡 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes–the 15 star was the result of adding Vermont and (I think) Kentucky as states.

Because we hadn’t yet thought of simply sticking to 13 stars, as we added more states we realized we were going to have a ridiculous number of stripes on the flag, so we actually didn’t add stars and stripes for a while. I think we finally played catchup on the stars (and went with 13 stripes permanently) when we had 20 states (but don’t hold me to that).

And yes, I was thinking of Francis Scott Key. THAT anniversary is the perfect time to fly the flag he saw.

I’m not sure whether the Gadsden was ever considered the US flag. If so, it’s legal to fly it *instead of* our 50 star/13 stripe present-day flag. But the point you are making is valid as far as the Betsy Ross Flag goes–apparently flying a legal flag of the US is terrorist!

Valerie Curren

“apparently flying a legal flag of the US is terrorist!” TY for that verification of a pretty big Ka-BQQM!

Are you also saying that there was a time that they also added stripes as well as stars to the developing US flag(s)? It’s pretty fascinating stuff 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, they did just that once. Then they realized it would cause problems to do so, so they decided that the stripes would honor the original 13 rather than all states.

Can you imagine 50 stripes today? really, really skinny!

Valerie Curren

TY 🙂

WSB

William Daniels and Howard DeSilva in this wonderful quip with Blythe Danner.

I had the pleasure of seeing William Daniels, Ken Howard and Howard DaSilva in the Broadway play when this opened!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_(musical)

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WSB

PS, Howard DaSilva calls Thomas Jefferson a ‘Red-headed Tombstone’!

Hysterical…and TRUE!!!

If one spends the time to watch this movie, it has the most snarky, wonderful script you will ever find to teach others and enjoy a quipped history of our US birth!!!!

Exceptional!

Valerie Curren

I’ve never seen it, but you make me want to now 🙂

WSB

Oh, Valerie, you MUST!!!

And you may want to see it a few times. The script is SO snarky and lovely about how all this happened.

The writers had a great understanding of the problems associated with getting the Declaration done. They studied the history and consolidated this into a contemporary comedic tale!

Loveliest movie!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes…cut out the musical numbers and it’s actually fairly decent history.

Valerie Curren

Well Some musical numbers, like School House Rock, actually helped Me remember certain aspects of history 😉

WSB

Oh GOD!!! 1776 is so much more FuN!!!!!

Valerie Curren

Well it will Definitely be much longer than SHR 😉

WSB

Now Steve, The music is fabulously snarky and FUN!!!!

Bunny!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Fun, yes…absolutely. (There’s one number I will generally fast forward through because it’s a bit tedious.) I just don’t think they really broke out into song back then. 😀

WSB

RRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Watch Howard Da Silva!!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Sorry I don’t get the reference.

Cuppa Covfefe

Cut out the dialogue, and it’s a decent musical 😀

(and who could forget John Adams as the voice of K.I.T.T.? or DATA as John Adams in the revival?)…

Cuppa Covfefe

Betty Buckley played Martha Jefferson on Broadway… always wondered why she didn’t do the movie role…

That was a great play (wish I could have seen it live, rather than just being part of the pit in a local production). I wonder if “Molasses, to Rum, to Slaves” would survive the woke generation/Karens… or “The Lees of Old Virginia”…

cthulhu

It is important to see past first impressions….

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TheseTruths

A cowt!

pgroup2

Me-owt

Gail Combs

“….“tiny, bad, and poorly maintained public streets mixed with small private drives, alleys, and overly long driveways, all mixed into a residential mess where you’re not actually sure where the road ends and something else begins.” Not that he’s ever seen such a place!”

I have. My Ex and I were in West Va and decided to take a ‘short cut’ OVER the mountain instead of going the long way (`50 miles) around.

Well the road went from a decent 2 lane to a poorly maintained rural road to a gravel road that forded a shallow river to a dirt track thru the woods into a guys driveway thru his orchard and finally back to a gravel road headed down the other side of the mountain.

And yeah, this ‘road’ was actually on a map!

itswoot

My friends would cry out in alarm whenever I was driving and I suggested taking a short cut. It became a joke among us. They would quote Tolkien.

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pgroup2

“We do things a bit different out here in the hills.”

Gail Combs

Yeah, I noticed!!!

At least we were not shot at and we did make it thru with the truck and camper!

Cuppa Covfefe

Hazzard County road maintenance 😀

(or maybe Cabell County…)…..

In the early 1960s the street my grandparents lived on was made of bricks… later on, they paved over it, but I think the bricks are still underneath…

Valerie Curren

My hubby Still finds some brick sections of road to drive on in Detroit…

I used to peruse old City Directories, kind of the pre-cursors of phone directories but w/ more info. Sometimes they also had a “reverse” directory, where it was ordered by the dwellings on a street, kind of like a census. It would indicate cross streets & often time the first mention of a street in that directory would give a description of the kind of road it was, like dirt, gravel, cobble, brick, concrete, & I even saw something about upright logs in dirt.

This was fascinating info in trying to piece together one’s family past & have a glimpse into the conditions in other eras.

My dad’s side of the family, who came to Detroit around 1900 lived in an area that was at the perimeter of the city proper, perhaps recently annexed. According to Dad’s recall of his dad’s & granddad’s tales, at the end of the block where his GD lived across that road that was where the circus would set up & there was no city water on that side of the street so the circus would “pay” kids in the neighborhood to haul water for them w/ a free ticket into the circus–of course the free entry required a Paid entry companion!

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I think Detroit could begin to fix Some of their problems if they de-annexed portions of the city back to the original municipalities for perhaps better management 😉 😉

This is not “my” Detroit, but still interesting for the topic of different types of roads:

https://westlakebayvillageobserver.com/read/2017/01/24/the-history-of-detroit-road-from-stumps-to-planks

Well I fell into a rabbit hole trying to find an online example of the street condition descriptions. Here is a site that has within a comment (no direct link I could find) a detailed listing of that researcher’s Detroit related links–goldmine–comment #12!

https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?19947-Polk-Detroit-City-Directory-1928-29-Getting-It-Back-Online

So my husband just woke up from a nap & I was quizzing him about his experiences w/ historical Detroit roads…well he just heard from my dad over the weekend about this quirk in Detroit paving practices, at least in the 40s & 50s when my dad still lived in the city. So apparently Detroit is “close” to Heaven with the streets paved with gold…well the alleys were augmented w/ the rejected silver byproducts, dross, which was poured over the gravel in the alleys to help stabilize them it seems…learn something new every day!

Valerie Curren

LVE IT!

Jack Smith is a THUG

Gail Combs
Jack Smith is a THUG

THANKS GAIL!!!!
that’s what i really miss about the new twitter crap–the replies were often the best part of the tweet!!!

Gail Combs

Remove the first part of the URL https://twitter.com/
And replace with https://nitter.net/

I learned that from another Q treeper and saved it. 🙃🤓

Valerie Curren

Yes it lets us at least read along!

Valerie Curren

Yes! It’s also degrading to be barred from participation in the conversation…

Jack Smith is a THUG

i love learning a new language!
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Jack Smith is a THUG

SAVAGES!!
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pgroup2

What a shameless sadist he is, justifying his slaughter of the defenseless.

Jack Smith is a THUG

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singingsoul1

😂

pgroup2

Are we now allowed to post about women who want spankings?

Asking for a distant acquaintance.  🤔 

Jack Smith is a THUG

not my call…
wolf will have to decide.
his circus, his monkeys

Cuppa Covfefe

Not distant enough 😀

(What is this, S&M week amongst the trees??? 🙂 )…

para59r

Obligatory “about expected/full speed ahead” Maria B w/ Mike Johnson (new speaker)

kalbokalbs

J6 videos? Yea, yesterday’s news. Move along.

Gail Combs

This is a MUST LISTEN!!!

Breaking History Ep 16: Is The Deep State Baiting New BRICS Nations Into A Middle East War?
https://rumble.com/v3rjife-breaking-history-ep-16-wed-1200-pm-et-.html

Matt goes over   :wpds_arrow: the history of the Middle East, Israel and the DELIBERATE POT STIRRING by the Brits and later the CIA.

Matt mentions the Samson – Option:
This is an anti-Israel take:
THE SAMSON OPTION – ISRAEL IS THE GREATEST THREAT TO THE ENTIRE WORLD

Remember the ‘Samson Option’? 

Israel says they have nuclear missiles aimed at cities all over Europe, which they curiously and insanely regard as ‘hostile’, this being the preferred choice of target of the Israeli Air Force. Israel routinely calls the USA ‘anti-semitic’ too. Does anything strike you a being a little odd about that? Like what the hell are we fighting for Israel for? …

During an interview with Alan Hart, the then Israeli premier Golda Meir twice stated that Israel was prepared to destroy the whole world with nuclear weapons if Israel ever faced military defeat. She and others have used this obscene blackmail, justifying it with the thought that we were all only ever created just to serve them, and that if we ever fail in this duty, then we are all to be quite justifiably punished by extermination. This is your security issue above all others….

Samson Option – Wikipedia

The Samson Option (Hebrew: ברירת שמשון, b’rerat shimshon) is the name that some military analysts and authors have given to Israel’s deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel…

Israel refuses to confirm or deny it has nuclear weapons or to describe how it would use them, an official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also known as “nuclear opacity.” This has made it difficult for anyone outside the Israeli government to describe the country’s true nuclear policy definitively, while still allowing Israel to influence the perceptions, strategies and actions of other governments.[5][6] However, over the years, some Israeli leaders have publicly acknowledged their country’s nuclear capability: Ephraim Katzir in 1974, Moshe Dayan in 1981, Shimon Peres in 1998, and Ehud Olmert in 2006.[7]

During his 2006 confirmation hearings before the United States Senate regarding his appointment as George W. Bush’s Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates admitted that Israel had nuclear weapons,[7] and two years later, in 2008, former US president Jimmy Carter stated the number of nuclear weapons held by Israel to be “150 or more”.[8]

In his 2008 book The Culture of War, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, wrote that since Gates admitted that Israel had nuclear weapons, any talk of Israel’s nuclear weapons in Israel can lead to “arrest, trial, and imprisonment.” Thus Israeli commentators talk in euphemisms such as “doomsday weapons” and the Samson Option...

Gail Combs

Some notes I took earlier on the Middle East mess:

Wednesday Power Hour had some real goodies on the HAMAS – ISRAEL mess.
https://rumble.com/v3rp5kx-devolution-power-hour-191-wed-1030-pm-et-.html

1:08:00 Tucker interview of Col MacGregor

1:16:00 could be very harmful to the USA…. Blinken seems to be in charge of military and our military is the weakest it has been. Expended material in Ukraine so stocks low. Top of US Military have never actually BEEN IN REAL COMBAT CONDITIONS!! They fought low intensity combat. We are looking at a real War and with Israel as a wild card that might use the nuclear option.

This idea of the nuclear Option is expended later SEE 

1:17:00 too many unknowns and uncertainties … Blinken THERE IS NO ROOM FOR NEGOTIATION… ==> ARMAGEDON
1:18:00 discussion by Ghost of Based Patric Henry. Talks about how to varify footage shown using google earth.
1:20:50 — CIA and Funding of terrorists and BOTH SIDES OF A WAR… 
 Radicalization of Muslims in Schools created by by BRITISH in 1880s (ASIDE: THINK USA and John Dewey Father of Modern American Education — ALSO 1880s.
 

MY COMMENT:

 The most famous American Fabian was the educational philosopher John Dewey. Davidson, who taught sociology at the Educational Alliance founded by Jewish businessperson in America, went to New York in 1887 and established a branch of the Fellowship of the New Life there. Dewey also gave lectures here between 1888 and 1890. One of the fundamental works in the founding of the League of Nations was the book titled “International Government.” It was penned by Leonard Sidney Woolf, the Fabian husband of novelist Virginia Woolf, in 1916 when World War I was ongoing.

🌐 Fabian Society: Roots, theory and practice of socialist think tank 

https://www.dailysabah.com/arts/fabian-society-roots-theory-and-practice-of-socialist-think-tank/news

1:27:30 USA is FUNDING ALL SIDES!! (Must listen)
Go to 1:54:00 then skip to 2:10:30 t0 2;10:30 Saudi Arabia, DELIBERATELY set up to be bankrupt by 2017. THINK THE ARREST OF PRINCES.

2:04:00 These people do NOT believe in God and Israel was set-up TO BE DESTROYED. This is what the current situation in Israel is all about… SAMPSON OPTION

𝗛𝗲𝗻𝗿𝘆 𝗞𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗿 𝗦𝗔𝗜𝗗 𝗡𝗼 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹 𝟮𝟬𝟭𝟮
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2012/10/03/henry-kissinger-us-intelligence-community-endorse-a-world-without-israel/

https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2012/10/03/henry-kissinger-us-intelligence-community-endorse-a-world-without-israel/

Henry Kissinger Predicts ‘In 10 Years, There Will Be No More Israel

Interesting TIMING HMMMmmm. It is Dependent on Saudi Arabia being defanged. 
Also Isra Cohen-Watnick and Kash Patel say this attack by Hamas was PLANNED years in advance, meaning there is NO WAY Israel did not know.

Gail Combs

Matt gets into the Henry Kissinger comment to the Jerusalem Post @ 13:10.

He mentions that Lord Balfour who was instrumental in forming Israel was an Antisemitic pro-NAZI

Comment by EXPOSE news: The Balfour Declaration allowed Zionist Jews to act as Terrorists: A Closer Look

The Balfour Declaration is a critical document in the history of the Middle East, Israel, and the Palestinian people. Issued on November 2, 1917, this brief letter signified British support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine and just so happened to be sent to the Zionist Lord Rothschild.

However, this document and its aftermath are steeped in controversy. Let’s delve into the details surrounding the Balfour Declaration, its repercussions, and the debate surrounding its interpretation and implementation….

“His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

This is another take on the mess. Please Remember Wolf’s AND LOGIC. BOTH CAN BE TRUE.
Hidden History of the Balfour Declaration
Washington Report, November 2005, pages 44-50 [Before Kissinger let the cat out of the bag]

Special Report by John Cornelius

IN THIS article the author relates what he believes to be the true story of how the British government came to issue what has come to be known as the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration took the form of a letter, dated Nov. 2, 1917, from Arthur Balfour, foreign secretary of the British government, to Lord Walter Rothschild, head of the organization of British Zionists. This letter promised that the British government would work to bring about “a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine.” (See box.)

I have written three earlier articles in the Washington Report on this subject, and my views have evolved with the passage of time.1,2,3 What has not changed is my belief in a British-Zionist trade whereby the Zionists assisted in bringing America into the war and, in return, the British promised them Palestine.

Among the things that have changed is my concept of the timing of the agreement. The earliest article contained a chronology showing that the British received a plain-language copy of the Zimmermann telegram (ZT) a few days after it was sent, encoded, from Berlin to Washington, on Jan. 16, 1917, and that the first formal meeting between British Zionists and the British government took place on Feb. 7, 1917. It now appears that the basic agreement was made several months before that time and what was betrayed to the British was not the text of the ZT, but rather the code in which it was sent.

singingsoul1

The Jewish people deserve better than what is happening. They suffered enough and we should do everything so they can live in peace . Starting a World War though is crazy only cray people think this way specially with all the modern weapons everyone has not to mention Nukes. The damage that War causes and to the earth the loss of life is a affront to God.
World War III will change everything I feel so sorry for young people who have their life before them.
Maybe good times we have raise up crazy people demonic people ?