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This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.
For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.
At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.
DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.
It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.
And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!
PSST! – Hey, Kid! – Wanna Watch an AI Movie?
Seriously – just check this one out. It’s a short, so it won’t take too long. Supposedly “100% AI” – whatever that means.
Yeah, it’s plenty derivative and filled with cliches – but dang, these things get better all the time.
Think of it as due diligence on Fake Fake Entertainment!
Or if that’s not your thing, try this art film done by a human (Heavy Pulp) using AI for the music and the movie. I found this one very enjoyable.
"Peyote" – a visual poem short film. (PG-13)
In honor of X slapping a content warning on the original film here, I am uploading a new YouTube approved edit.
Peyote was created via the fantastic and unrestricted creative platform that is @AskVenice – highly recommend checking it… pic.twitter.com/l9oU3aSCZ6
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Our various sister sites, listed in the Blogroll in the sidebar
Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.
Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Commies won’t win!
And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!
THE STUFF
Save a Farm Worker – Buy Organic
Do you remember my recent two articles about home pesticide services, and how dangerous these can be to pets, wild animals, family, homeowners, neighbors, and beneficial insects like bees? Just in case you want to review…..
One of the things that became apparent during both my online AND neighborhood research for these articles, is that the currently advancing Overton Window involves the use (or perhaps I should say misuse) of agricultural pesticides on residential lawns and dwelling exteriors, and in basements.
Indeed, if one starts to read anywhere about pesticide toxicity, it quickly becomes clear that most human poisoning cases are in an agricultural context.
SO – I was shocked, shocked, SHOCKED (not kidding) to see this headline.
No – not shocked about the subject – but about the NUMBERS!
Now, if you read carefully, this figure includes all exposures, including minor ones that may not have required hospitalization – but still – WOW.
Here is the opening of the article.
Nearly half of the world’s 934 million farmers are poisoned by pesticides annually, with an estimated 402 to 433 million cases each year.
Developing countries in southern Asia, Southeast Asia, and East Africa bear the heaviest poisoning burden.
Burkina Faso has the highest national poisoning rate, with nearly 84% of farmers affected each year.
Non-fatal poisonings far exceed deaths but cause chronic illness from repeated low-level exposure.
Global pesticide use has doubled since 1990, while underreporting hides the true crisis. Nearly half of the world’s 934 million farmworkers are unintentionally poisoned by pesticides every year, amounting to an estimated 402 to 433 million cases annually, according to new research published in Frontiers in Public Health that exposes what experts call a hidden global health crisis.
The study, conducted by researchers from the Pesticide Action Network, analyzed 214 scientific publications from 2006 to 2023 alongside World Health Organization mortality data covering 139 countries. Researchers found that about 11,000 of those poisonings prove fatal each year, with nearly 60% of deaths concentrated in India alone. The findings build on a 2020 review that had already put the annual toll at 385 million cases, underscoring how persistent underreporting continues to obscure the true scale of the problem.
(Wolf again…..)
When I was in school, I knew a fellow student, from a farming family, who had worked a variety of farm jobs during summers and school breaks. He had a great story about being hospitalized because he had simply dribbled some liquid organophosphorus pesticide on the toe of one of his thick leather boots. I’m pretty sure he was using parathion, which has largely been replaced by the weaker but much safer malathion. Still, quite the cautionary tale.
I got to thinking – we can actually lessen the risk for these farm workers, by buying organic produce. I know it’s a small step, but I think it’s an important one. You may not save any of the 11,000 workers who will die, but you may very well prevent one of the millions who will get sick, from being poisoned.
This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.
For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.
At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.
DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.
It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.
And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!
Amish church benches set up inside a garage or workshop meeting space in an Ohio community. Note the three chairs with backs provided for older congregants. Photo: Mike Sparks
Must Women Keep Silent In Church?
It’s too bad that Deplorable Patriot, who was most definitely NOT silent in church, is not around to help us answer this question.
Let’s start with Aubergine’s original frustration and question.
I have been reading the Bible aloud and recording it for a Christmas gift to my family. Reading out loud is different somehow. My pastor says if you want to hear God, read the Bible aloud. I think he’s right.
I have been reading 1 Corinthians, and I was struck by something. I have said for a while now that if I read something in the Bible outside of the Four Gospels that seems contradictory to what Jesus Himself did or said, I go with Jesus.
Many people will say nothing in the rest of the New Testament contradicts Jesus, but I don’t think that’s true. When Paul says that women should “keep silent” in the churches, that seems to me to contradict the fact that Jesus empowered a woman as his first evangelist when he revealed Himself to the Samaritan woman at the well.
So I’m reading out loud, and it hit me hard that in 1 Corinthians, there are several instances where Paul states (paraphrasing) this is from me not God. Well, then, what am I to make of that?
I know the Bible says “all Scripture” is useful for teaching. That appears in 2 Timothy 3. But 2 Timothy was written around 64-67 A.D. The Four Gospels were written between 65-100 A.D. The “Scripture” 2 Timothy was referring to could not have included the Four Gospels, only the Old Testament, so Paul could only have been referring to that.
I am, as I said, struggling with this.
(/END Aubergine)
There was a response to this question by Scott, and I believe it is highly instructive to examine.
“Many people will say nothing in the rest of the New Testament contradicts Jesus, but I don’t think that’s true. ”
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The reason why people say this, or more broadly, the Bible (Old Testament and New) doesn’t contradict itself, is because all Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and God is perfect, and God knows the end from the beginning, and therefore God does not (cannot) contradict Himself.
So if we see something which on the surface appears to be a contradiction, we are misunderstanding something.
Last edited 1 day ago by scott467
I promised Aubergine that I would get back later with my response, and this post is that response.
In consulting my study Bible, it becomes clear to me that most of the explained responses to this question revolve around the idea that Paul is referring to what was regarded as acceptable practice in Corinthian churches at that time.
Specifically, the section in question is found in Chapter 14 of 1 Corinthians, and in the study Bible is entitled Orderly Worship. The question at hand is prophesying and speaking in tongues. Paul concludes the chapter with this summary (NIV translation).
Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.
It is noted in the study Bible that “Paul does not altogether forbid women to speak in church (see 11:5). What he is forbidding is the disorderly speaking indicated in these verses.”
1 Corinthians 11:5 is a section entitled Propriety in Worship, and it deals primarily with men and women’s head-covering or lack thereof in church – specifically the Corinthian churches of that time. As he refers to women who are prophesying or praying, in that context, it is clear that women were indeed speaking in church.
Before going further, I think it is important to reflect on Scott’s answer above. In general, readings of the Bible should be not only self-consistent, but consistent with each other.
I would say, similar to what Scott says, that if you find sections of the Bible in contradiction, then misinterpretation of either the scripture itself or its context, is almost certain to be why.
This is not to say that Aubergine’s method of prioritizing Christ’s direct statements over Paul’s take on Christ, is somehow wrong or bad. Indeed, I have the same policy, and I find it extremely useful – but primarily as a way of locating any inconsistency or misinterpretation on my part. In my experience, what Christ says plainly, is where to begin the route to understanding.
So where does that leave us?
IMO it is a case of not just “apples and oranges”, but First Century apples and oranges.
What was acceptable for men and women in Christ’s public ministry in the Levant – and at different times and places within that ministry – is not the same as what was acceptable for Greek Christians in a house of worship. And – to add lemons and grapefruit to the mix – what is acceptable in different modern houses of worship is not the same as what was acceptable back then.
What IS the same in all these circumstances is the maintenance of Decency, Orderliness, and Propriety appropriate for the venue. IMO Paul is absolutely correct in that. “Good order” – however defined – is to be maintained. Paul is insisting that Corinthian churches not abandon their own standards – particularly at moments when some worshipers are overcome with the Holy Spirit. And that last part is key. He is writing to Corinthians about Corinthian churches, and he is talking about the speaking of tongues and its impact on church services. This was apparently a social problem.
Modern analogous standards in America would not distinguish between men and women, but would insist that worshipers not talk, text, or disturb others during services. Interruptions are only tolerable for emergencies, and even then, discretion may be in order. Worshipers experiencing the Holy Spirit (crying, joyous, speaking in tongues, etc.) are to be left alone or comforted as needed – NOT to be the cause of discussion, ridicule, rude comments, laughter, or other things normally intolerable in a church service (at least, outside of a very humorous and entertaining sermon give precisely with the expectation of eliciting laughter, spoken responses, and the like).
Looking at how modern churches in America vary greatly in their expectations with regard to the following, is instructive.
children
teens
nursing moms
the elderly
the handicapped (including disruptive disorders)
“expressive” worshipers
concealed carriers / defenders / guards
ushers
demonstrators
those experiencing the Holy Spirit
visitors
etc.
Now add the range of church policies on things like head coverings (required or forbidden), other clothing (required or forbidden), and behaviors (mostly forbidden, but some required). We are now in an age where Paul only visits us in writing, through letters to other churches from 2000 years ago! Imagine what he’d be writing now – and the kind of push-back he might get!
Then recognize that he got some push-back back then, too!
The bottom line – I’m not worried about apparent inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible, because IMO when the Bible is considered fully within its own history and its work on humanity, it all makes sense, it’s not contradictory, and it retains it’s divine nature. It DOES lose simplicity by requiring understanding and context – and that’s OK with me, perhaps easier because I’m a bit of a theological liberal. By which I mean the following.
IMO, some parts of the Bible are more metaphorical than others, some parts are more historical than others, and some are more bookkeeping than others, but they are all united in purpose and on message about GOD. The books, chapters, and verses don’t all have to be the same. The humans that believe don’t all have to be the same. Some churches let the women speak, and even speak to the whole congregation – though always in good order. Some don’t. But we do all have to have Faith.
Good Faith is required to understand, and to believe in God. And Faith requires Trust. So let’s trust!
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Our various sister sites, listed in the Blogroll in the sidebar
Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.
Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Commies won’t win!
And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!
THE STUFF
Charging the Ambush at Ubuntu 26.04.1
Alternate Title: Terrible Trash Panda Release Domesticated With Some Extra Effort
This is just to let you know that I am back in (meaning, I can publish easily on WordPress with all my lazy-ass hacks), after deciding to manually update my box to the latest Ubuntu (26), instead of giving up and going back to version 24 or 22.
I took a chance that most of the problems are with the update process and product thereof, and not the release per se, and that appears to be the case.
After an attempt to do a normal Ubuntu upgrade from 24 to 26 on a favorite box blew up VERY badly, I was prepared to go back to 24 or even the older (and superior) Ubuntu 22. However, in a form of “double or nothing”, I decided to see if a clean install to version 26 followed by “hand migration” might work as nicely as it usually does for me. If it didn’t work, I would know more about the future of Ubuntu, and whether I needed to look more closely at alternatives.
And yes. It did work. I’m back on my comfy ride, and already found several improvements that have paid me back for the effort. These were problems with version 24 that are now as GONE as they were in version 22.
So yeah. Version 26 is working nicely so far, by following default parameters and installing it cleanly, erasing everything.
That’s all. I’ll keep it short. My recommendation is that if you want Terrible Trash Panda 26.04.1 running on your machine, then do a clean install and migrate everything else by whatever usual methods you prefer.
This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.
For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.
At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.
DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.
It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.
And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!
The Alpha-Gal Switcheroo – Is Bill Gates Using “Boxes of Ticks” Misdirection to Protect Vaccines?
Let’s do an experiment. Answer this question.
If you realized that – because you were getting vaccines – there was an increasing and dose-related chance you would become allergic to beef, and would have to stop eating beef – would you keep getting vaccines?
THAT is the question of the century. And it is a question nobody in Big Harma wants you to ask.
Stop for a moment to think about your answer, because IMO this question is NOT merely rhetorical. IMO, it’s REAL.
Speaking for myself, I’m not taking one more vaccine until I am shown the BOX it comes in, and then given WEEKS to research what is in that vaccine. Most vaccines will fail my standards, for one reason or another, and there are many good reasons. The exception might be a non-mRNA rabies vaccine after just being bitten by a bat, but otherwise, yeah. I am going to be a VERY difficult sell on any vaccine. You see, I read a very interesting scientific paper. You need to read it, too.
But before I tell you about it, I want to teach you about how I believe misdirection prejudiced me into believing an inferior scientific theory FIRST.
How the Scam Works
Magic – scams – con artist games – dirty FIB political manipulations – they almost all work by misdirection.
So how does that play out here? This is hypothetical, but tell me this doesn’t make all kinds of sense.
Bill Gates is deep in the weeds, controlling vaccines world-wide, for some reason (let’s not get into that now)
people have to want to take vaccines, because if they don’t (“hesitancy”), vaccines have no power to do whatever it is that they’re capable of doing (which includes literally remaking humanity)
suppose that vaccines start causing a problem
suppose that ticks also cause the same problem
suppose that pockets within vaccine science become aware that injection itself is and always has been a problematic methodology, due to side effects, including unwanted immune responses, off-target antibodies, etc.
well, if ticks alone can be blamed by those scientists, then vaccination and other injections can get off scot-free
even better, a vaccine for the “tick disease” can be turned into a hero, and any problems with THAT vaccine can then be blamed on ticks
note how COVID vaccine problems were blamed on the virus and “super-spreaders” who allegedly spread the virus right after the vaccine was given in nursing homes – same principle – misdirection
In the PAST – when I believed in an INFERIOR scientific theory – it was the “ticks alone can be blamed” part.
NOW – I believe the SUPERIOR and MORE GENERAL theory that injection itself can be, and often is, problematic. I am now a WISE GUY, who knows the same stuff as the people who wanted to blame everything on ticks.
It’s an AWESOME SCAM. Absolutely brilliant. But, in the words of every AI slop video….. IT’S OVER.
How I got from the bad theory to the good theory is next.
The Idea That Changed Everything and Opened My Third Eye to the Scams
I had heard of this “alpha gal allergy” that was spread by ticks – and I believed it all. It sounded a bit strange, but many parasitic and parasite-borne diseases (or in this case, really a “disorder”) are strange.
The fact that we had never experienced this condition before, but now it was going like gangbusters – well, that’s suspicious, too, but not unprecedented. I was willing to accept it.
The fact that Bill Gates was involved with it – sad, maybe outrageous, but typical. The man has a nose for BAD THINGS. Malaria, mosquitoes, failing vaccines. Its like he has an injection fetish. Ticks fit right into it. Not unbelievable, either.
And then I got an email for a substack article. Shown here as a tweet.
BREAKING: FIRST-EVER STUDY LINKS VACCINES TO THE 10,000% RISE IN ALPHA-GAL SYNDROME
We found more than 90% of U.S. children are injected with ~54 mg of alpha-gal-bearing mammalian gelatin through routine childhood vaccines before school entry.
We found more than 90% of U.S. children are injected with ~54 mg of alpha-gal-bearing mammalian gelatin through routine childhood vaccines before school entry. The evidence points to two possible pathways: 1) DIRECT: Vaccines may DIRECTLY promote alpha-gal sensitization. 2) PRIME-BOOST: Vaccines may PRIME the immune system, so a later tick bite BOOSTS the response to clinically relevant alpha-gal IgE levels. Yet the most obvious experiment has NEVER BEEN DONE: Measure alpha-gal antibodies BEFORE AND AFTER vaccination. This could help explain why suspected Alpha-Gal Syndrome has exploded by nearly 10,000% since 2013, while only a fraction of people bitten by ticks ever develop the condition. Alpha-Gal Syndrome has been known for 18 YEARS, yet no scientific paper bothered to investigate whether alpha-gal containing vaccines could be contributing. With 104 references, our study is one of the most comprehensive papers on Alpha-Gal Syndrome to date, covering its explosive rise, tick biology, vaccine exposures, immune mechanisms, genetic susceptibility, prevention, and treatments. This major McCullough Foundation–The Wellness Company collaboration brings together researchers across epidemiology, medicine, immunology, and public health to confront one of the biggest unanswered questions in Alpha-Gal Syndrome.
Figure 1. Rising incidence of suspected alpha-gal syndrome in the United States, 2013-2024. Incidence of alpha-gal-specific IgE seropositivity among adults tested within the TriNetX US Collaborative Network, rising from 0.95 per 100 patient-years in 2013-2014 to 94.06 in 2023-2024. Redrawn from data reported by Rama et al.12 The event was defined by a positive alpha-gal IgE result without a requirement for documented symptoms; such patients meet the standard surveillance definition of a suspected rather than a confirmed case. Rates are calculated among persons who underwent testing and therefore reflect clinical recognition and testing practice as well as any true change in occurrence.Figure 3. Two proposed pathways by which vaccine-derived alpha-gal could contribute to alpha-gal sensitization. Neither pathway is demonstrated, and the two are not mutually exclusive. Pathway 1, direct induction. Historical aluminum-adjuvanted DTP and DTaP preparations delivered gelatin-borne alpha-gal parenterally. Dendritic cells take up the epitope in an aluminum-conditioned, Th2-biased environment, and alpha- gal-specific memory B cells undergo IL-4-dependent sequential class switching to IgE without tick involvement. The pathway is depicted for historical formulations because every gelatin-containing vaccine in current United States use is unadjuvanted. Pathway 2, priming followed by tick-bite boosting. Gelatin in live viral vaccines such as measles-mumps-rubella and varicella carries alpha-gal and expands the alpha-gal-specific memory pool, with or without detectable circulating IgE. A subsequent lone star tick bite delivers alpha-gal on a salivary glycoprotein carrier with intrinsic adjuvant activity, boosting a recall response to clinically relevant titers. Amblyomma americanum is depicted as the dominant vector, although other tick species have been implicated. Convergence. In both pathways, alpha-gal-specific IgE bound to mast cells and basophils through the high-affinity IgE receptor FcεRI mediates the delayed reaction occurring 3 to 6 hours after ingestion of mammalian meat that defines clinical alpha-gal syndrome. Because all humans carry non-allergic anti-gal IgG and IgM, neither pathway requires primary priming against a novel epitope; the required event is redirection of an existing response toward the IgE isoty
This new thinking makes incredible sense to me.
Tick bites are common, but they’re small, and neither leave much nor take much. The tiny payload makes sense for communicable diseases, which require only a tiny amount of biological material to cause a huge problem, but for allergies, the larger assault of vaccines just makes more sense than a tick bite.
The recent appearance of the disease – also neatly explained by vaccines. NOT well explained by ticks.
No – in my mind, vaccines need to share EQUAL HYPOTHETICAL LIABILITY with ticks – and IMO it’s actually more likely to be vaccines that are ultimately responsible.
Again, I urge you to look at the paper, and maybe download it.
That post mentions SIX other posts, all of which cover what appear to be various wicked machinations by Billy Ghoul Gates of Hell (as some call him).
But my big question is THIS.
Has Bill Gates gone too far this time? Has he actually entered FRAUD territory? Has he even done something comparable to the SPLC supporting Nazis with donor money, as a way to stir up useful trouble to make MORE donor money?
Think about it. What if vaccines, in general, have an “off-target immunity problem” that can stem from the immunogen, the adjuvant, or BOTH. If so, misdirecting the public – and science – away from this alpha-gal story THROUGH Gates’ own enemies, would be a very smart move. Actually a diabolical move, but still. Very smart.
But is it legal? I don’t know the answer to that. Maybe DOJ does. At the very least, it’s reprehensible, IMO.
Let me put it this way. I don’t think these “Bill Gates is shipping boxes of ticks” stories are real. I certainly don’t think they’re organic. They’re obviously phony – but I think they’re phony with a purpose. A purpose that seems to help GATES and not US.
Is Gates behind those stories? Is there a money trail, like with SPLC?
I think these tick stories are a psy-op that is designed to gets blamed on the “anti-vax” and “anti-Gates” crowd – to sap the credibility of Gates’ enemies. At the same time, I think this psy-op is designed to mislead people – AWAY from vaccines – which Bill Gates is defending with all his might – and TOWARDS ticks – which Gates really doesn’t care about.
It’s not ticks. It’s vaccines. I’m convinced – at least right now – that they’re a better answer than ticks, on the question of alpha-gal syndrome. And it could even be that Bill Gates is defrauding all of us by blaming a vaccine problem on something else, and making his enemies be the mouthpiece for the phony alibi.
Bill Gates is innocent until proven guilty – just like SPLC. But I think somebody needs to look at this whole thing, and see if Gates has gone beyond just propping up bad science hit pieces like Lancetgate for corporate profits, which is perfectly legal, and has actually done any other things to defraud government, investors, and others – which are not legal. “Boxes of ticks” stories may be legal – but who knows? Maybe the people prosecuting SPLC would know.
As I said, things may get rough around here. Stay frosty. We’re up against the BIG-TIME trouble now.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Our various sister sites, listed in the Blogroll in the sidebar
Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.
Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Commies won’t win!
And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!
THE STUFF
Win the MAHA Front to Win the MAGA War
Recently, I had a bit of a revelation – followed by a much bigger one. The bigger revelation – the second one – is the title above. Specifically, it includes the MIDTERMS as a critical component.
We need to win on the MAHA front, to win the midterms. I’m not saying that MAHA is everything that wins the midterms. But I am saying that I believe MAHA victory is KEY to MAGA winning the midterms. And beyond.
Allow me to explain….
The First Revelation
At some point recently, I realized that the Democrats have seized on the idea of splitting MAHA against MAGA to weaken President Trump. They are seeking out natural contradictions between MAHA and MAGA, and looking for ways to turn the more liberal MAHA voters against President Trump.
scaring them on things like AI data centers
angering them on things like Epstein
disillusioning them on things like vaccines, RFKJ, etc.
playing to the racists and antisemites among them (this is orthogonal to MAHA, but is still depleting it)
And yet – ironically – we are making great strides on the MAHA front, if one simply looks at where we HAVE won battles. Yes, not everything is going our way RIGHT NOW, but seriously – we’re making a LOT of headway.
The Second Revelation
In my opinion, the Democrats and their allies in Big Harma, Bad Tech, and Cabal Finance, are barely hanging on in MAHA world – but they are using psy-ops and media mind control to convince us that we’re not winning. I’m not willing to go along with their bullshit.
In the last two or three years, I’ve stepped away from posting regularly about vaccines, medical technology, depop, and other MAHA topics, but I am being drawn back into the fight. Here is why.
We have had some great victories lately, from my scientific standpoint, but I feel that those victories are being underappreciated by MAHA. People are not seeing them. Each time, I realize just how “on the ropes” the Demmunists, the Faucists, the Weffen SS, and the Mandate Scumbags, really are.
I realize that if our side rallies around these MAHA victories, and push for more, we’re gonna CRUSH these criminals at the midterms.
I’m already seeing some recognition, on our side, of the “winnability” of this election by Trump and MAGA/MAHA in November. BUT – IMO – it’s not enough. It’s not as much as it should be.
Let’s just take a look at where things REALLY stand.
Fauci could have made a stand – but he didn’t. He pleaded the Fifth. This is a HUGE win for the forces of patients, real health, MAHA, and sanity.
Fauci’s top aide has pleaded guilty and is clearly cooperating with the DOJ on Fauci.
Fauci definitely committed federal money and ethics crimes, as called out by Josh Hawley in the Senate.
The mRNA flu vaccine is barely snaking by, and has demonstrated obviously and substantially lower safety than even the existing but still dubious traditional flu vaccines.
Even Grok admits that the mRNA flu vaccine is not a sound choice for vaccine-qualified patients in good health – and I believe that I can argue effectively that it’s not a good choice for MOST qualified but “should-be-contraindicated” patients.
CDC and FDA emails are TORCHING numerous villains of the Biden administration.
Top Slovakian academics were caught red-handed colluding with the mRNA vaccine industry to publish misleading science which knowingly minimized dangerous levels of DNA contamination in mRNA vaccines.
An impressive new theory liking alpha-gal syndrome to vaccines is not only fitting all the facts BETTER than pure tick-borne theories – it is explaining why Bill Gates doesn’t seem to mind those “boxes of ticks” accusations AT ALL. In fact – he may very well be BEHIND those misdirecting conspiracy theories.
The bottom line is that MAHA’s TRUTH-CENTERED SCIENCE is winning, and the MONEY SCIENCE that wants Trump gone yesterday is in big, big trouble. The other side is desperate, and doing desperate things.
And not only that – they are being swept away. We are changing the ecosystem.
I believe – strongly – that we can REFORM science in the next few years, if we (1) win the midterms, and (2) push to victory for MAHA during this election cycle.
But better still, I believe that if MAHA can WIN and SEE ITS OWN WINS during 2026, the winning of the midterms by MAGA is assured.
Republican presidential nominee former President Donald Trump shakes hands with Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at a campaign rally at the Desert Diamond Arena, Friday, Aug. 23, 2024, in Glendale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
Thus, our task is to HELP MAHA WIN, and then to HELP MAHA SEE THE WINS.
I believe this site can be a VERY strong fighter in this cause.
There will be push-back – on many fronts. Some will be in this world. Some will be spiritual. We will contend with both. But we are positioned to help MAHA win, and MAHA’s win will insure that MAGA wins.
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This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.
For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.
At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.
DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.
It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.
And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!
Is There Another Cell Nucleus Hall Pass in the New mRNA Flu Vaccine, mFlusiva?
Let’s start off with some history.
Are you aware of the fact that both the Moderna AND the Pfizer COVID vaccines contained a genetic sequence that acts like a “hall pass” or “VIP ticket”, allowing the holder to get into the nucleus of human cells?
Were it not for somebody dropping a link to an obscure paper in my Twitter timeline back in early 2023, I would have never realized how extra sketchy that made both the virus and the vaccines – and especially the latter, since it would have been theoretically possible to remove the nuclear hall pass from the spike protein used as the vaccine.
Let me repeat that. They left the “hall pass” in the mRNA code for the vaccine.
But – and I have to stress this – it was not just that this “hall pass” was there. No. It was much worse. The paper in question was experimental, and it showed that the viral spike protein not only contained the hall pass, but that it WORKED. The hall pass actually worked to get the spike protein into the nucleus. They even had PICTURES of it in the nucleus.
The hall pass not only got the spike protein into the nucleus – the spike protein THEN got the mRNA that coded for it into the nucleus, as well.
Yes. You are reading that correctly. The spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 has a known sequence in it that ends up getting both IT and the mRNA that created it, into the cell nucleus.
One would THINK that this might be a big deal. Especially after we were REASSURED that NO, VIRGINIA – THE mRNA WILL NEVER, EVER GET INTO THE CELL NUCLEUS, YOU FOOLISH VACCINE SKEPTICS.
Are you seeing why this is kind of a big deal?
SO – NOW – my question about the new mRNA flu shot is similar.
I could ask whether the flu vaccine’s “spike protein” (it’s called a “hemagglutinin glycoprotein”) also has a hall pass that gets it into the cell nucleus. I could even ask if the influenza HA glycoprotein also “escorts” its own mRNA into the nucleus, as does the COVID spike protein.
However, that requires experimentation. I can’t do that work.
OK – can I just ask if the mRNA flu shots contain the hall pass into the nucleus?
Well, it turns out that you can ask, but there’s not necessarily an answer.
I could not find the answer, so I asked Grok.
And I asked Grok a slightly less pointed version of the question, since I am perfectly capable of checking for nuclear translocation sequences myself, so that Grok would not detect “conspiracy theory thinking” on my part, and thereby not consign my question to the “talk down to this human” conga line of incomplete answers.
Q: Is there a published mRNA sequence for the new mRNA flu vaccine, mFlusiva, from Moderna?
A: (from Grok)
No, there does not appear to be a publicly published full mRNA (nucleotide) sequence for Moderna’s mFlusiva (mRNA-1010).
mFlusiva is the FDA-approved (as of early August 2026) trivalent mRNA influenza vaccine for adults 50+ (traditional approval for ages 50–64; accelerated for 65+). Each 0.38 mL dose contains 37.5 µg total mRNA (12.5 µg each of three RNAs) encoding the full-length hemagglutinin (HA) glycoproteins of the season’s recommended strains (for the 2026–2027 formula: A/Missouri/11/2025 (H1N1)pdm09-like, A/Michigan/105/2025 [A/Darwin/1415/2025 (H3N2)-like], and B/Pennsylvania/19/2025 [B/Pennsylvania/14/2025-like]), formulated in lipid nanoparticles (SM-102, PEG2000-DMG, cholesterol, DSPC).
Public documents (prescribing information/DailyMed, FDA briefing documents and clinical review, Moderna product pages, and peer-reviewed trial publications) describe the composition, encoded antigens/strains, manufacturing process (in vitro transcription, no cells/eggs), and clinical data, but they do not disclose the actual nucleotide sequences of the mRNAs. These would include codon optimization, specific 5′/3′ UTRs, poly(A) tail, nucleoside modifications (typically N1-methylpseudouridine, as used in Moderna’s platform), and any stabilizing mutations (noted for the influenza B HA in non-surface-exposed regions).
The underlying viral HA amino-acid (or genomic) sequences of the recommended strains are publicly available via databases such as GISAID or NCBI, as with any seasonal flu vaccine components.
Moderna and related patents/publications disclose example or earlier-generation influenza mRNA constructs, sequences for other candidates, or general platform elements (e.g., UTRs used in some Moderna mRNAs), but not the proprietary, strain-updated commercial sequences for the approved mFlusiva product. patents.google.com
This is consistent with how proprietary vaccine sequences (including prior Moderna mRNA products) are typically handled—they are not routinely released in full in labeling or regulatory summaries.
In short, while the antigens, doses, and high-level design are public, the exact published mRNA sequence for mFlusiva is not available. Any claims of a full sequence circulating would need independent verification against primary sources.
(END GROK)
(BEGIN WOLF)
First of all, just for the record, this is a great answer. Once again, thank you, Elon!
This situation seems a bit different from small-molecule drugs, where the exact molecules in the drug MUST be described in full, not only to the FDA, but to the public. Probably a feature that big pharma will eventually pay government to remove, but until then, something that certainly cramps their style.
Now, I was able to track things down a bit, and get CLOSE to the actual sequence for the vaccine, but I have been unable to find the exact sequence.
Product Information Product Type VACCINE Item Code (Source) NDC:80777-500 Route of Administration INTRAMUSCULAR
Active Ingredient/Active Moiety
Ingredient Name Basis of Strength Strength RNA-101-BFL3 (UNII: FPY755GU6Z) (RNA-101-BFL3 – UNII:FPY755GU6Z) RNA-101-BFL3 12.5 ug in 0.38 mL RNA-101-BFL6 (UNII: G35CN36JAP) (RNA-101-BFL6 – UNII:G35CN36JAP) RNA-101-BFL6 12.5 ug in 0.38 mL RNA-101-BFL5 (UNII: WAH8KM77XC) (RNA-101-BFL5 – UNII:WAH8KM77XC) RNA-101-BFL5 12.5 ug in 0.38 mL
3115056-86-2 RNA (recombinant 5′-(m7G-(5′→5′)-ppp-Gm)-capped all uridine→N1-methylpseudouridine-substituted influenza A (Missouri/11/2025 (A/H1N1))-like virus hemagglutinin codon-optimized transgene plus 5′- and 3′-untranslated flanking region-containing poly(A)-tailed messenger RNA-101-BFL3), inner salt
(b)
3115056-85-1 RNA (recombinant 5′-(m7G-(5′→5′)-ppp-Gm)-capped all uridine→N1-methylpseudouridine-substituted influenza A (Michigan/105/2025 (A/H3N2))-like virus hemagglutinin codon-optimized transgene plus 5′- and 3′-untranslated flanking region-containing poly(A)-tailed messenger RNA-101-BFL5), inner salt
(c)
3118110-32-7 RNA (recombinant 5′-(m7G-(5′→5′)-ppp-Gm)-capped all uridine→N1-methylpseudouridine-substituted influenza B/Victoria Pennsylvania/19/2025-like virus hemagglutinin [288-valine,381-tyrosine] codon-optimized transgene plus 5′- and 3′-untranslated flanking region-containing poly(A)-tailed messenger RNA-101-BFL6), inner salt
That is as far as I could go. Registry numbers and names. Trying to look up the CAS registry numbers failed.
CAS Common Chemistry covers – well – common chemicals, including some surprisingly unusual ones, but it clearly doesn’t cover everything. For a lot of molecules – ones that are not “public figures” – one has to get behind the paywall by buying a product like SciFinder.
For example, CAS Common Chemistry has a page for one of the allegedly inactive substances in the vaccine – tromethamine.
SIDEBAR: I’ll do a whole post about tromethamine later – it’s one of the best and most hilarious demonstrations of the (to borrow Scott’s verbiage) “weak, fake and gay” duplicity of the pharma-government-fincorp-media complex that I’ve ever seen. I’m personally glad they smartly added this compound to the clot shot, but to lie about why they did it – just so WEAK, FAKE AND GAY!
It is possible that the three names we retrieved above would allow trained biochemists to get very close to the actual sequences that were used, but in reality, to get the full, exact composition, including DNA contamination, we will almost certainly have to wait for independent researchers to analyze and sequence vials of the mFlusiva vaccine.
SO – in answer to the original question, we won’t truly know if there is either a public or secret access code to the cell nucleus in this vaccine, until somebody in free science actually analyzes the sequence of the vaccine, and somebody else actually checks and sees if the protein and/or the mRNA gets trafficked into the nucleus.
To borrow a saying from Nancy Pelosi, “We have to inject it, to find out what’s in it.”
Honestly, I think if Thomas Jefferson saw what patents have done to science, he would pull the whole idea up by the roots and figure out some other way to implement it. What that something else is, I don’t know. But what we have now is clearly problematic.
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THE STUFF
Let’s Talk About Virus, Vaccine, and Protein Shedding
I have noticed something very interesting about the “shedding” phenomenon.
The “vaxxes can do no wrong” side doesn’t like to talk about shedding. They don’t bring shedding up, and they frequently change the subject when an argument about shedding gets started.
It’s easy to dismiss “shedding” as a conspiracy theory, but once one sees actual Pfizer documentation on the topic (link now dead, curiously), the reality of “shedding” in the vaccine world hits one square in the face. Media shills for vaccines may be crowing on TV that “shedding” is all a big lie, but when the vaccine manufacturer is testing the vaccine, suddenly it’s the greatest danger of the study, and test participants find themselves separated if not isolated from spouses, infants, relatives and friends. Yet another reason people cannot stand the lying fake news media.
The most disingenuous current deflection of the problem in vaccines, is that the FDA has a HUGE concern with the shedding of “gene therapy” products – which often use mRNA in lipid nanoparticles – but then says that it’s not a problem in mRNA vaccines because they’re not classified as gene therapy products. Robert Malone has always been highly critical of this teenager-level dodge of responsibility, and frankly I think anybody involved in that scandal needs to be fired from government and possibly prosecuted for fraud. It’s the same weak chutzpah as the 17-year-old murderer of his parents, demanding first leniency as an orphan, and then prosecution as a juvenile, when the initial lunacy doesn’t prevail.
I recall the first time I read documentation of how shedding of a vaccine was to be guarded against in a major vaccine clinical trial, by significant restrictions of the participants from close contact with other people during the observation period.
Shedding of a virus – why – that’s just DISEASE. Communicable disease. We are all familiar with THAT.
Well, vaccines can be a virus – including weakened and incompletely deactivated viruses. It can even be a normal but less pathogenic virus, like cowpox, used as a literal vaccine against a more dangerous virus like smallpox. A weak but “live” virus may be difficult to transmit, but in many cases, transmission is still possible.
Shedding of a virus per se is the most potentially dangerous form of shedding, but it’s also the most well-known, and the easiest to understand. A limited number of viral particles is all that is necessary to start a disease in a new host. Being a victim of viral shedding is literally catching a disease. This is reality – something that happens all the time with common colds and influenza-like diseases (ILIs). Catching a shed virus is vaccination against catching the exact same form again – but not against sufficiently mutated forms. We are familiar with THAT from COVID-19.
So when people catch a communicable viral disease, they catch a shed virus, start constructing the virus, and then shed the virus again. Simple, and very real. But the outcome of viral infection is very uncertain, and that unpredictability ends up being a liability of using sheddable viruses as vaccines.
There is a reason I’m harping on this form of shedding. One needs to keep shedding of vaccine in perspective with the more dangerous, more likely, and more consequential shedding of virus. If you suddenly experience symptoms of a disease, including symptoms of the protein produced by that disease, then it is far more likely that you are a victim of shedding of the actual virus, than shedding of the vaccine. This is a simple reality, which I believe has led many patriots, including Deplorable Patriot, astray, in losing focus on relative risks. It is important to keep ALL forms of shedding in mind.
Shedding of Proteins
At the other end of danger, is the shedding of viral proteins, but not the virus itself. Let’s consider that.
Viral proteins can’t reproduce, but they CAN show all the bad properties of other nasty, dangerous, pathogenic proteins.
For example, the spike proteins of corona viruses are notoriously pathogenic, and when they are administered to test animals in an aerosol, they create immediate pulmonary disease, and can even kill the test animals. Yes, it’s shocking.
Still not convinced that a small amount of “shed” protein can be dangerous? Let’s talk about snake venoms.
Snake venoms are mostly dangerous because of pathogenic proteins, and these proteins are often very similar to bacterial or viral proteins, or arthropod venoms, as well as powerful digestive enzymes.
The thing is – and you likely didn’t know this – venomous snakes “shed” not only their skin, but also their VENOM. That fact is why people who care for venomous reptiles need to wear gloves and respirators when they clean cages. Shake venom gets into the cage dust, and cleaning it out exposes workers to skin and respiratory dangers pretty much like test animals breathing corona virus spike proteins in an aerosol.
So, again, shedding of pathogenic proteins can be real.
The only questions are, what viral protein is it, how is one being exposed to it, and how much of it is one being exposed to.
I’ve discussed this in the past, when we talked about the possibility of shed spike protein having the potency to cause symptoms in a person being shed upon. You can refresh yourself with the discussion in the following post and other linked posts here.
How much exposure to pathogenic protein is allowable? That is a HUGE question – and between the extremes of total neglect and total fear, lies something called “exposure and immunity”. Including “natural immunity”. We’ll return to that topic later.
Shedding of Vaccines
In between the shedding of intact viruses, and the shedding of viral proteins, lies an intermediate possibility – the shedding of what in nature are called “virus-like particles”, or what in medicine are called “lipid nanoparticles”.
These are mRNA or DNA enclosed in something like a lipid nanoparticle, or the outer shell of a different virus.
These are, bluntly, mRNA vaccines.
In terms of both danger and safety, lipid nanoparticle vaccines are intermediate between live viral vaccines (always dangerous, IMO) and protein vaccines (least dangerous, IMO). Why is this? Well, bluntly, viruses propagate as a chain reaction, and have very little control over outcome. In contrast, a metered amount of a dead protein has great control over the outcome. mRNA vaccines are in between. They don’t reproduce, but they do create a greater but unpredictable amount of viral protein.
Pierre Kory has a very nice article about vaccine shedding, which I invite you to read.
By the time you finish that, you will understand that there is some need to address this issue now.
As a bit of an aside, you should note that Cory is AGAINST the use of nicotine patches for treatment of spike protein toxicosis, believing (as I do) that it probably has far more risks than benefits. This is highly relevant for DePat’s case.
Technical Approaches to Prevention of Shedding Injury
It is my belief that any good method to deal with both mRNA vaccine shedding and corresponding protein shedding should have the following characteristics.
Prevention is preferred to treatment
Treatment can be separate from prevention
Earlier is better for both prevention and treatment
Vaccine is more dangerous than protein, and is thus a priority
The final point needs some explanation.
While the protein can be dangerous at high enough levels, one of the greatest dangers of the vaccine is that it produces large quantities of the protein, and is thus automatically orders of magnitude more dangerous than the protein alone. This is not even considering the dangers of the mRNA technology itself.
Destroy the mRNA vaccine, and there is no protein made, nor any mRNA mechanism allowed to function badly.
Thus, targeting the shed vaccine FIRST makes sense.
THAT makes things easy, because the vaccine can be destroyed easily, provided that it has not yet entered the body.
The mRNA vaccines utilize lipid nanoparticles (a.k.a. liposomes) to enter cells. While these little particles are exceedingly dangerous at a cellular level, they have an intrinsic weakness – their easy destructibility by surfactants – meaning soaps and other cleaning agents.
I posed a research question to Grok, regarding this approach, and got a VERY satisfactory answer.
THE QUESTION
Grok, please give me a list of substances (ranging from specific chemical compounds to branded products) that are known to rapidly disrupt, break up, absorb, and/or inactivate liposomes, including liposomes that are referred to in the mainstream press as “lipid nanoparticles”. I am interested in both surface treatments (cleaning agents, topical medicines, skin washes, soaps, lotions, etc.) as well as things which can be taken internally (oral or injectable), as medicines, that are more specific for disrupting liposomes in the bloodstream, for example as an antidote to an inappropriately administered lipid nanoparticle vaccine, e.g., given mistakenly to an allergic patient.
THE ANSWER
BEGIN GROK
Surfactants/detergents (most effective and commonly documented disruptors of liposomes and lipid nanoparticles/LNPs), organic solvents, cyclodextrins, and certain other agents can solubilize or destabilize lipid bilayers. These work primarily by intercalating into the bilayer, extracting lipids/cholesterol, forming mixed micelles, or increasing permeability/leakage until the vesicle structure collapses. Effects are concentration-, composition-, and condition-dependent (lipid type, cholesterol content, PEG coating, temperature, pH, etc.). LNPs used in mRNA vaccines share similar phospholipid/cholesterol/PEG-lipid components and are susceptible in vitro to the same classes of agents. pubs.acs.org +2
There is no established, safe, specific medical antidote that rapidly and selectively disrupts circulating LNPs (e.g., after mistaken administration of an mRNA vaccine to an allergic patient). LNPs are designed to be temporary and are cleared primarily via the mononuclear phagocyte system (liver/spleen), with natural degradation of the lipids. Systemic attempts to force rapid disruption with the agents below would generally be highly toxic (hemolysis, cell membrane damage, organ injury) and are not clinically used or recommended for this purpose. Allergic/anaphylactic reactions are managed with standard emergency care (epinephrine, antihistamines, corticosteroids, supportive measures), not LNP disruption.
Surface treatments / topical / cleaning agentsThese are relevant for cleaning residues, skin washes, or external inactivation:
Anionic, nonionic, and other surfactants/detergents: Sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS/SLS), Triton X-100, Tween 20 (polysorbate 20), Brij surfactants, Zwittergent 3-14, quaternary ammonium compounds, and commercial soaps/detergents containing these. They saturate bilayers then convert liposomes/LNPs into mixed micelles. Used in lab assays (e.g., RiboGreen for mRNA release from LNPs) and industrial cleaning of LNP residues. Alkaline formulated detergents (e.g., potassium hydroxide-based) are effective for equipment cleaning of LNP residues at elevated temperature/contact time. pharmtech.com +2
Bile salts (sodium cholate, deoxycholate, taurocholate, etc.): Strong solubilizers of phospholipid bilayers; well-studied for vesicle-to-micelle transitions. Present in some digestive/intestinal contexts and used experimentally.
Alcohols and organic solvents: Ethanol, isopropanol, methanol (typically high concentrations). Disrupt hydrophobic interactions; improve solubility of lipids for cleaning but raise flammability/handling issues. pharmtech.com
Cyclodextrins (especially methylated or randomly methylated β-cyclodextrin / RAMEB / DMe-β-CD, and to varying degrees α-, β-, HP-β-CD): Extract cholesterol and phospholipids from membranes, increasing permeability, leakage, or causing collapse at sufficient concentrations. Effects depend on CD type, dose, and membrane cholesterol content. link.springer.com +2
Other noted factors: High concentrations of certain kosmotropic salts (e.g., ammonium sulfate) can aggregate/precipitate PEGylated liposomes; extreme pH, heat, or oxidation can destabilize; some nanoparticles or polymers can tear or fragment membranes under specific conditions.
Branded/consumer products that contain the above (many soaps, dish detergents, hand washes, some lotions or topical cleansers with surfactants/alcohols) can disrupt lipid structures on surfaces. Efficacy varies widely with formulation and contact conditions.
Internal (oral or injectable) agents
The same surfactants, bile salts, solvents, and high-dose cyclodextrins that work in vitro or on surfaces are generally not safe or selective for bloodstream use against LNPs. They disrupt host cell membranes (including red blood cells) at effective concentrations.
Bile salts occur physiologically in the intestine and can destabilize orally administered liposomes, but systemic (bloodstream) levels for intentional LNP disruption are not a therapeutic approach.
Cyclodextrins have pharmaceutical uses (e.g., solubilizing agents) and can interact with membranes, but high systemic doses for rapid LNP inactivation are not established as safe or effective antidotes and carry risks.
No specific medicines or injectables are approved or routinely described as LNP-disrupting antidotes for vaccine mishaps. Research on LNP fate focuses on clearance, protein corona, MPS uptake, and formulation stability rather than forced rapid inactivation in blood. nature.com
Important caveats: Literature on disruption is largely from in vitro biophysics, pharmaceutical formulation/stability studies, cleaning validation, or drug-delivery research—not clinical antidote development for circulating LNPs. “Rapid” disruption typically requires relatively high local concentrations of surfactant relative to lipid. PEG coatings or cholesterol content can modulate stability. Self-experimentation or off-label use of detergents, solvents, or high-dose agents internally is dangerous and not supported.
For any real-world allergic reaction or medical concern involving a vaccine or LNP product, seek immediate professional medical care; do not attempt chemical disruption. If this is related to laboratory work, cleaning protocols, or formulation science, consult primary literature or specialists for concentration- and condition-specific details.
END GROK
Let me translate all of that.
As long as the shed vaccine is still on the surface of your skin, on clothing, on a mask, or on a surface in your house, the vaccine can be destroyed by all sorts of cleaning products, including surfactants, soaps of all kinds, alcohols, oxidizing agents, bile salts, cyclodextrins, and probably anything useful for cleaning.
Further, any lotions or surface treatments which do not aid in skin penetration (like DMSO), but which do sweep things away from direct contact with your cells, are likely to be helpful in delaying, dissolving, and degrading lipid nanoparticles. Imagine spilled chemical on your skin – it’s the same principle. Diluting the vaccine and/or washing it off make sense.
It is a much different story once a lipid nanoparticle vaccine is inside you – be that from prolonged skin contact, breathing, swallowing, or any other route into your body (like the mRNA jab). None of these things work, once the vaccine is inside you, or in the bloodstream. In fact, these cleaning agents are just as dangerous to your internal cellular machinery (lipid-coated droplets) as they are to the lipid nanoparticles. However, as long as the shed vaccine doesn’t get into your bloodstream (a lower probability than a surface reaction), you don’t have to worry as much about that, as about vaccine damage to skin or mucus membranes where shed vaccine made contact.
Thus, the best time to fight shedding, IMO, is soon after contact. Washing, application of lotions or alcohols, etc., should inactivate shed vaccine. Washing away or denaturing shed protein is also likely to work at the same time.
Again, it is important to remember is that systemic problems from shedding are much less likely than surface problems.
A Realistic Program Against Shedding
This is my opinion. Others may differ. That’s OK. I am just offering my perspective. YMMV.
My first concern remains shedding of virus.
If I am not accepting the trade-offs of the vaccine itself, then my protection is my immune system. My immune system has worked very nicely over the years, against colds, flu, and flu-like illnesses, including all forms of COVID as well as non-COVID coronaviruses. There are appropriately long gaps between infections, and the infections (except for OG Wuhan) have not been debilitating, indicating a functioning immune system.
My immune system is always supplemented with plenty of vitamin D, because vitamin D levels are extremely highly correlated with immunity to viruses. The relationship is stark, and backed by the strongest science. Rates of viral infections almost disappear at high serum levels of vitamin D. There are probable mechanisms for this, but I literally don’t care what they are. Without knowing the causation, the correlation still works. I cannot recommend vitamin D enough. You need to be supplementing it, and maintaining maximum exposure to sunlight. Better still, a measurement of serum levels, but it’s not cheap and your doctor likely won’t recommend it.
Doesn’t matter. Supplementation is cheap and easy and not dangerous, so why not just make sure you are taking a few thousand IUs daily? Just do it. When you notice an appropriately long time between colds and flu, you know you’re taking enough.
Likewise, I make sure that I am not deficient in any vitamin or mineral. Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and zinc are very important.
However, THIS is even more important.
Avoiding crowded events is critical to reducing exposure to shed viruses. I can link almost every case of influenza or coronavirus infection in recent years to a specific event where there were lots of people crowded together.
In other words, shedding. Viral shedding. As in, viral shedding by people in close proximity.
Thus, avoid crowded public events, particularly in the wintertime, when viruses are maximally spread.
After viral shedding, my next concern is vaccine shedding.
IMO casual vaccine shedding from strangers in momentary close proximity, but not direct physical contact, is far, far less of a problem than living with a vaxxed person for that week after vaccination. Even worse, sleeping with that person who just had a vax.
You should note that my concerns here are EXACTLY what the pharmaceutical industry is concerned about in vaccine trials. That includes live virus AND gene therapy products (even if they don’t call them gene therapy products).
My recommendation is to avoid close contact with vaxxed people for at least 2 days after vaccination, and better a full week. Two weeks should be more than enough, always.
Why? Because the vaccine itself degrades. Even if a person take the vaccine, and shows all sorts of disease symptoms for weeks if not months (please pray for them if this is the case) due to vax-initiated protein production that won’t shut off, they are unable to transmit the vaccine to you, because it is no longer there. The vaccine is degraded, but protein production may still be running.
What about shed vaccine when we can’t avoid being around an individual?
This is when to use soaps, alcohol-based gels, and other skin products. This is when to wash your hands after that oily, wet handshake from some just-jabbed joker, sweating profusely due to their mRNA jab. This is when to stand back from people who can’t “say it” without the need to “spray it”. And note that all of this works even better for VIRUS.
IMO, the vaccine is a far greater danger to you, than the protein these poor victims are now producing. YOU don’t want to be inappropriately producing the protein.
And HERE is where my opinion is likely to differ with yours.
My final concern, about exposure to environmental viral protein, is largely not a concern.
Why? Because this is the natural way in which we build immunity.
Even against a bioweapon. I repeat. Even against a bioweapon – as either a virus or a vaccine.
I literally don’t care if the neighbor sheds small amounts of spike protein or flu proteins on me, because THAT is the vaccination that I prefer – the one for which I am designed. Likewise, I am unconcerned with exposure to dead virus, because THAT is basically how we are naturally prepared for exposure to live virus.
Do I want to inject a protein or dead virus vaccine into me? Maybe – but more likely not. I am now very cautious about vaccines, given that I have lost much trust in the current “vaccine cult” in science. I still trust God and His natural evolutionary reality, however, so I am far more likely to simply trust a combination of pre-exposure of my healthy immune system to proteins, followed by full natural immunity from a well-tolerated episode of the disease.
Rabies? That’s a different story. I’ll take the vaxx, as long as it’s not mRNA. I’ve already done so, once before. I would ONLY take an mRNA rabies vaccine if the animal was confirmed to be rabid, because then it’s a “lesser of two confirmed evils” situation.
I am not going to get pregnant any time soon, and I’ve already had COVID and influenza several times each, so I’m not terribly concerned about exposure to proteins from new variants. In fact, I am at the point of “keeping up” with the latest versions.
SO – some jabbie wants to expose me to the latest spike protein in a non-infective way? Please! Not a problem. Go right ahead. Flu proteins? Be my guest. But I won’t let them expose me to the Soviet Trabant two-stroke mRNA vaccine which I very intentionally decided NOT to take.
And again, my final point. Even if the vaccine AND the protein it produces are “bioweapons” – guess what? I want to be immune to it. I want my system to adapt to its presence. I want natural immunity to all this shit – whether it’s purely “old natural” or “the new natural” that includes stupid human gain-of-function scientific error.
Do you see what I’m saying? GOD has this situation – ALREADY. Let go and let God – just do it at the right time and place.
I hope this helps. If you have questions, feel free to ask.
This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.
For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.
At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.
DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.
It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.
And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!
Discussion of Authorship and Call for Authors
They say that crisis is opportunity, and they are right.
“Never let a crisis go to waste” – another saying, often attributed to the notorious Demoncrat thug, Rahm Emanuel.
We will pay attention to these adages, but we will try to be “nicer” about our small crisis.
Over the years (soon to be EIGHT on September 18, 2026), we have had authors come and go, especially on the seven “daily” open posts. At various times, some of our authors, like Deplorable Patriot, have handled more than one daily. DePat handled 1, 2, 3 and even 4 dailies (and we joked about giving her 5 – not entirely in jest!)
Right now, I am handling 3, and it feels fairly comfortable. Monday (Wheatie), Tuesday (DePat), and Thursday (Trust The Plan).
Gail, who does Wednesday, is dropping a few additional posts on Thursday, and it’s helpful to us both.
While I could probably just leave things as they are, I feel that it’s useful to give people the opportunity to try their hand at authoring posts here. We have had many pleasant surprises, as our readership has found both enlightenment and entertainment in new authors.
At one time, I would edit and post some articles written by Gail, but what I discovered at that time, is that it was not only too much work for both of us – it was causing me to be an editor again. I say again, because one of the many hats I’ve worn in this life, was that of an editor. I really, really do not like being an editor. I’m good at it, and received much money and approval for my efforts, but I hate it. When Gail finally began posting on her own, I said THANK YOU and NEVER AGAIN on the editing.
Thus, I have no desire to serve as an editor again, and that includes being an editor for those who would like to dip their toes into authorship by handing off articles. Nope. You have to be the person who types it in and hits either SAVE or PUBLISH.
If I open up opportunities for your authorship here, being classified in WordPress as an Author is your minimum contribution. You can produce nothing, or 4 dailies, or anything in between. But you must be your own author – not a shadow author. You will publish under your own username – nobody else’s – no “anonymous”. You can say whatever you want, but you will be responsible for what you say. If you need a more “anonymous” account than the one you already have, then we can work on that.
SO – please let me know if you are interested in being a weekly author on Monday, Tuesday, or Thursday. You can respond on this post, or by sending a “PMTW” message (see “Contact”).
If you have questions, fire away!
In the words of somebody we all love, “Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Our various sister sites, listed in the Blogroll in the sidebar
Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.
Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Commies won’t win!
And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!
THE STUFF
Let This Be Counted as a House of the Lord
I call your attention to TWO pieces of scripture.
“Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord.”
-Philippians 3:8
“Let us go to the house of the Lord!”
-Psalm 122:1
IMO this site has been providentially protected from harm by making sure – like a church – that there is no corner on this property in which there is the slightest hesitation in lifting the Lord’s name in praise, or a time when God cannot be worshipped.
Yes, we have a special service on Sunday, but I have noted that we have evolved to the point where there is no time or place in which anybody for any reason might hesitate to mention God or praise our Savior, Jesus of Nazareth.
Reading these two passages in rough sequence, and after several days of watching the failures of science surrounding money and vaccines, which failures and lies have no truck or traction here, I realized that together these pieces of scripture explain why our protection WORKS.
Christ Jesus was relentless in living the Ten Commandments, and demonstrating to us that this was not only possible for humans, but properly done, in love, it is a JOY, not a burden. Paul understood this – that ALL GOOD THINGS flow from a much more powerful thing – the abstraction of worshiping GOD over all else. Stated another way, that even Truth itself, and our choice to find it, rest upon a foundation created by God. Paul could never return the favor done to him by knowing what Christ taught him, but he could and did share that good news with all of humanity.
The same principle applies to this site. Let us BE a house of the Lord! What does that mean? It means that the surpassing value of what Christ taught us should cleanse every room, every hallway, every corridor, every nook and cranny, and even the BIN and the SPAM BUCKET.
At all times, remember. THIS is a House of the Lord. NEVER be afraid to speak His name. Post about God – comments or articles – whenever and wherever you desire. FEAR NOT. God is with us, because we make sure He is WELCOME.
