DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20240613

Badlands News Brief – June 12, 2024

AI systems are learning to lie and deceive, scientists find

Unplug it already.

Rachel Maddow ‘worried’ Trump will send her to ‘camps’ if he’s elected president

Alright! Bonus!

No matter what the media and others regurgitate about ‘science,’ it’s always about money and control

Waking up, are we? Excellent.

‘You’re a Brave and Magnanimous Man’ Tucker Carlson Talks to ‘Persecuted’ Steve Bannon Ahead of Prison Stint

Number Of Children Who Died After COVID Shots Much Higher Than VAERS Reports Indicate, Analyst Says

Corrupt Attorney General Merrick Garland Issues Shameless Response After Being Held in Contempt by US House and Gets Hammered by Conservatives on Social MediaCorrupt Attorney General Merrick Garland Issues Shameless Response After Being Held in Contempt by US House and Gets Hammered by Conservatives on Social Media

Exceptional Idea to Support Trump – President Trump Proposes Elimination of Taxes on Tips


How does someone this dumb get to Congress?

They don’t like her because she is straight and white. Nothing more, nothing less.

Anyone see sauce on this?

The truth is coming out? Shocking.

Chariot races anyone?


All the time.

Nasty creatures. We didn’t have issues with them until all the chemicals on lawns killed the fireflies.

I’m seeing a lot of wild animals wanting to be petted these days.


And now for the business portion.

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Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

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If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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WISDOM 7:7-14

7Therefore I prayed, and understanding was given me; I called upon God, and the spirit of wisdom came to me. 8I preferred her to scepters and thrones, and I accounted wealth as nothing in comparison with her. 9Neither did I liken to her any priceless gem, because all gold is but a little sand in her sight, and silver will be accounted as clay before her. 10I loved her more than health and beauty, and I chose to have her rather than light, because her radiance never ceases. 11All good things came to me along with her, and in her hands uncounted wealth. 12I rejoiced in them all, because wisdom leads them; but I did not know that she was their mother. 13I learned without guile and I impart without grudging; I do not hide her wealth, 14for it is an unfailing treasure for men; those who get it obtain friendship with God, commended for the gifts that come from instruction.

EPHESIANS 4:7, 11-15

7But grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 11And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, 12to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, 13until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ; 14so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the cunning of men, by their craftiness in deceitful wiles. 15Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ,

MARK 16:15-20

15And he said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. 16He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” 19So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. 20And they went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that attended it. Amen.

It’s the Feast of St. Anthony of Padua, so there are two sets of readings today.



Yeah…had to explain that to a sister in law.

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Hey! Get to your keyboards! You don’t get paid to slack off!

 😂  😍 


Wolf had us all sign over our payments to you. You’re not getting them?




“Paid? Who on this forum gets paid?”


We all get paid.

We just didn’t tell you 😂🤣😂

Gail Combs

KNEW IT! He is a FIB PLANT….   :wpds_lol: 


Hints or wanna spill the beans?

Yes, I took the bait.   :wpds_shock: 


“Hints or wanna spill the beans?”


No way!

That would spoil the whole “I know something you don’t know” dynamic 😂


It was just a play on words, from a scene in Tremors (1990) 😁


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Such a great movie!


Hey! Sometime or another, I became a WOLF!


Lol, just noticed.


Let us know when you get furry.  😂 


Lol! A girl’s gotta keep some secrets!


Lycanthropy — enjoy the nightlife!



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I was gonna post that one too! 👍



Valerie Curren

Congrats! Well deserved upgrade. Pack runs Wild AND Free…Always!!!



Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent! You have come a long way from “Cute Chipmunk”!!! 😉 😍


Lol! That’s just looks. Wolf is my inner spirit.


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Barb Meier

Is shitposter one word or two? I need to update my resume. 😂


  :wpds_shock:   :wpds_lol: 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy


ONE word, for sure!!!


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The doughnut is a nice touch. So are the wrinkles on Hagface.


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The idea that masculinity could be toxic is completely gay, it’s homo on steroids 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not just gay – it’s LESBIAN on TESTOSTERONE!!!


“That makes no sense.”
— former president shrub

Valerie Curren



Riley Gaines:

Great news! Lia Thomas won’t be able to compete in women’s category at the Olympics or any other elite competition.

He has just lost his legal battle in Court of Arbitration for Sport ruling.

This is a victory for women and girls everywhere

Great victory. I also think *they* are waking up to the fact that people don’t want to see man compete against women. It would completely spoil Olympic swimming, for example.


“I also think *they* are waking up to the fact that people don’t want to see man compete against women. It would completely spoil Olympic swimming, for example.”


I don’t think that’s the whole story.

There would be a lot of well deserved entertainment value, not to mention educational value, in having women get their asses handed to them by men (men who don’t deny they are men) in sports of all kinds for the next 10 years or so, to remind the entire lunatic feminist world that men are physically and mentally superior in every sport there is.

The thing that people (or at least men) don’t want to see are these homos and drag queen trannies, biological men who are pretending to be women, do anything.

Pushing homosexuality and other male sexual perversions on the public is intended to humiliate heterosexual men. Promoting male sexual perversions and mental illness through women’s sports are just one of many convenient avenues that cultural Marxists use to do it.

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Gail Combs

I disagree with you Scott,

I grew up when I was NOT ALLOWED on the track team BECAUSE I WAS FEMALE, this despite the fact I was the fastest long distance runner the school had. I was also darn good at the hurtles. The track coach was just about in tears.

Just because we are women does not mean we should be excluded from sports, or for that matter Drafting or Shop as I was. I think guys should take ‘home ec’ and learn how to do laundry, boil an egg and sew on a button while girls should learn how to change a tire, check the oil and use a drill and saw. BOTH should learn how to balance a check book! AND I told the principal just that when I was called up on the carpet for flunking home Ec. (So much for me getting The Lecture. 🤓)

BTW: Dad was a competitive long distance runner & the Druze (mom’s side) are know for their great lungs. In college I had zero problems jogging for miles at 6,000 feet without an increased breathing rate or climbing to 12,000 feet despite growing up in NY.

Like other Caucasus populations, the Druze may even be genetically adapted to cope with the thinner mountain air allowing them to live comfortably in these remote parts.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The root question is whether we should have voluntarily segregated sports, and I think that society has answered that as an affirmative. Men and women favor real men’s and women’s sports leagues. TRANS athletes break that down,

In the spirit of AND logic, I believe that we should have BOTH segregated (men’s and women’s) and non-segregated (unified) leagues in all sports – and especially in schools. This gives everybody a place to go that fits them. It also allows SOCIETY to decide where to invest its interest in sports.

I think women’s sports was a great idea, but I also think we make a mockery of it when we allow XY males into it. All their “records” by MEN in women’s sports will need to be removed once humanity regains logic on the issue.

And we can move those “records” to “unified” – that works for me. “Unified” is also a great place for “future transhuman kids” – which are the next big problem for schools.

Gail Combs

Actually horseback riding (English & western show) are non-segregated.

There are certainly sports where women and men can compete on an equal footing and others, because of the innate differences between men and women, where they can not.

As a female who was discriminated against even in college — I went for a degree in Chem Engineering and got shunted into Chemistry WITHOUT the counselor telling me or my parents — I was very happy to see women sports and incredibly PISSED when the transgender mania ruined it.


Kind like curling. And I WAS an equestrian.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, it was very weird how “engineering” was some supposedly male thing back then, but straight science was not.

Part of what broke that barrier at my university was a woman who topped out the freshman engineering class her very first year. The school of engineering suddenly had all the reason they needed to simply drop all discussion of the matter, because they didn’t want any possibility that this woman might transfer to a “fancier” school. She was making the school famous.

She was the talk of the university. Everybody knew her name. Firms were fighting to get her as an intern. It was ridiculous. She was like some kind of Playboy centerfold (she was actually good-looking, too).

But the chemistry department had some star athletes who were 4.0 and headed to medical schools, so they had some real talent, too.


You are way too kind to those psychopaths.

Barb Meier

-hand up, jumping up/down- Can we watch the ice skaters please??? I love the ice skating!!! The couples figure skating is so cool…

Gail Combs

Love watching skating. It is so much more fluid compared to ballet.


In this case, the problem with “AND logic” is $$$, or the lack thereof, to fund all of these different sports leagues (his, hers and theirs).

Taxes for public schools are already out of control without even providing a basic education, so imagine the pie being split into even more pieces to accommodate unified leagues, in addition to boys and girls leagues.

At the college level, we already have a situation where most women’s sports are not self-sustaining, so they are subsidized by revenue derived from men’s sports.

They take from the boys and give to the girls, because ‘equality’.

This too is a problem, because everyone wants to assert ‘equality’, but reality declares otherwise, and it can be absolutely measured in dollars and cents.

So everyone is taught (compelled) to join the ‘equality’ religious cult, which is a cult founded upon lies, and those lies necessarily distort everything which is built upon them.

And we have already built whole cities of Babylonian Towers on those lies, which have distorted reality to such a degree that Western civilization may already be destroyed, and the human population may collapse, because at this point, women believe they are Superwomen, and are convinced that they don’t need men anymore.

I saw a video last night were a young woman claimed that women could reproduce now without men, just using their own bone marrow. She was completely serious.

And the young men have taken the subtle-as-a-brick-through-a-window hint, both understanding that they are not wanted (and actually hated), and have stopped dating women.

Except for the Chads and Tyrones, who sleep with all the women, women who are sexually liberated to the point of having hundreds (sometimes thousands) of sexual encounters before they are 30 years old.

Behaving like they are teenage boys, except they only have to drop their pants to get sex, something which never applied to teenage boys (or any other males, for that matter).

This is the reaping, of all the cultural marxist / feminist seed that has been sown for decades now. It appears to be far worse than most people have any idea, at least most people who are Generation X or older.


“Just because we are women does not mean we should be excluded from sports, or for that matter Drafting or Shop as I was.”


I would never suggest that anyone should be excluded from sports or drafting, or shop, or whatever else they might enjoy or excel at.

That’s a whole different subject than boys who pretend to be girls so they can compete on girl’s sports teams.

Boys and girls are different, physically and psychologically, they are not the same, so they can’t be treated as if they are the same.

Some sports (e.g., boxing, football) are dangerous for women to compete against men.

Other sports (e.g., track) seem to present no obvious problems for women to compete against men.

It sounds like there was no female track team at your school. In a situation like that, if any girls are fast enough to compete with the boys, then let them compete with the boys.

The problem, of course, is that there are only so many spots available on a team. If girls start taking spots away from boys on the track team, because the girls tend to grow faster at an earlier age, smaller boys (shorter legs) don’t make the team.

Those boys, a year or two later, having reached puberty and their own growth spurt, may easily beat those same girls by that point, but their life likely has gone in some other direction in the meantime, because they were pushed out of participating in their favorite athletic activity.

So what do you do? Ideally, there should be boys teams and girls teams for most sports where girls and boys are likely to want to participate. In a world of finite resources, that doesn’t always work out, in which case exceptions may be made.

Who decides, and by what criteria, is a can of worms that becomes instantly political, and somebody is going to end up unhappy (understandably) with the result.

But NONE of this has anything to do with what I was talking about in my original reply to TT 😂

Valerie Curren

There was a state level female competitor in our kids’ HS. I believe that the longer distance track portion was run simultaneously & she passed Most, but not All of the guys. She outstripped Every Girl I ever saw her run against. She was amazing yet so humble & approachable.


Olympics are stupid.

Gail Combs

Not really. Not only does it promote a variety of sports, it also promotes international fellowship.


And child trafficking.

Gail Combs


Can’t they keep their slimy paws off ANYTHING???

I like to watch the 3 day events.

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I do too (used to do hunter 3-day and stadium jumping), yet I will not watch any gymnastics ever again!

Maybe the horse people have more…


Yup. Quit Olympics couple decades ago.

Before that quit all the hollyweird fawning over each other awards. Movies, music…all of them.


I also think there’s a monetary factor.


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He’s got the empty thought cloud, the bag of illicit gains, the blood on his hands, the sippi-cup, and the fly…..but he could have landed on the teleprompter.


I was wondering where Mr. T went.


We are thankful for the thunderous Thespian Thursday theater post!

Gail Combs

OOOOOoooooh that is a great idea.

I got to see it once and it was great.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Re the group projects meme

They were unfortunately rife in my master’s program.

One prof knew exactly how things went, and asked each student to rank the people in their group according to how much work they did.

Afterwards, he told the class that he expects everyone will list themselves first, he looks at the second place. Later on he told my that in my group everyone ranked me, not themselves, first.



SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Just realized you achieved “Wolf” status at some point.

I’m probably a decade away,


It has been a while. I was the first one, and it was a little disconcerting to be in the same category as Wolf Moon. I don’t know how many comments it takes. I seem to remember Wolf’s saying something about “likes” too; I’m not sure. But you can always post more…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, first one? I thought the other one had beat you.


That was the second one.

You see, Who’s on first… What’s on second.

I Don’t Know is on third 👍 😁


You are So CUTE!!!!!


I can’t help it!!! 😁


On Qtree! on Qtree! A wolf badge on Qtree —
You’re always a decade a-way!!!!

— Little Orphan Stevie

Valerie Curren


Valerie Curren

You’ll make Wolf Well before I do!!!


How much did you pay ’em?

[I kid I kid  😂 ]




Right on about the “group projects” in master’s degree programs.
Yours Truly got around that one by stating that my master’s degree “thesis” was going to be a full voice recital. Since the degree program I enrolled in wasn’t run by a music department, I got “free rein.” Ha!
Yours Truly will add that the last part of the voice recital was a semi-staged final scene of the opera, The Ballad of Baby Doe, by the American composer Douglas Moore. I had the great good fortune to sing this with an operatic bass-baritone who had the role of Horace Tabor in his repertoire. The accompanist for the recital was one of the coach/accompanists for artists who perform at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.
And one will add another detail:
The Ballad of Baby Doe is a slightly-fictionalized operatic account of the life of “Baby Doe” Tabor (Elizabeth McCourt Tabor.) The setting is in the late 1800’s in the western United States. The plotline has to do with the life of “Baby Doe” Tabor and her relationship (and later, marriage) with Horace Tabor, a silver mine owner. For a good while, “Baby Doe” and Horace lived the high life from the proceeds of the silver mines. Then, the mines “went dry”, and other disasters struck.
The final scene of the opera takes place after the loss of the silver mines. Horace, clearly quite ill, wanders into the grand theater that he built many years previously. “Baby Doe” finds him there. The scene ends with Horace collapsing and dying in her arms. She then sings an aria, “Always Through the Changing”, which is her vow to remain in spirit with her husband.
In actuality, “Baby Doe” did just that. She spent the final 35 years of her life after Horace’s death living in a wooden shack beside their last silver mine, “The Matchless Mine”, subsisting on donated food, clothing, firewood, and other items. She was found frozen to death in 1935. She left hundreds of pieces of paper, on which she wrote visions, her feelings, and other things, in a sort of “stream-of-consciousness” style.
There is a fabulous recording of the legendary Beverly Sills singing “Always Through the Changing” that can be found in You Tube. The role of “Baby Doe” was one of her “signature” roles.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It was so bad that in addition to the capstone class that would normally have been equivalent to a thesis–but was a group project, they required an additional individual project outside of any class so that you could be unambiguously evaluated as an individual, and then you had to present/defend it.

Some people just did a report on something or other–ye gods, they gave out a graduate degree for that. I actually tried to solve a problem that hadn’t been done before, with a solid day of number-crunching (it would have been a month had I not bought a co-processor). When I dropped the required six copies in the hopper at the office, one of the profs (one I hadn’t taken any classes from) took one look at the title and pounced on it. Both gratifying and frightening; it meant he’d be looking at it closely.

Not a month after I got the diploma one of the popular science magazines (but not Popular Science itself, which was really something that should have been called Popular Technology) ran an article about someone who had done a more complete analysis…and disagreed with my conclusion because of that. I still have that magazine.

Valerie Curren

Hopefully not written by that prof riffing on or ripping off you?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Nope totally different institution. And that thought never crossed my mind.

My “competitor” (not really) had worked the problem for years, using a much more complicated model that included the influence of the Sun as well as the Moon and Earth. Ripping me off would have *hindered* him, and in any case there’s simply no way he could have done so without a time machine to go back into the past and then do his work. The article was probably written before I had started on the problem, certainly his paper (that the article was about) would have to have been.

Valerie Curren

fascinating & I’m glad you weren’t “scammed” 🙂

Valerie Curren

No surprise that you Rocked Then as well as now!


DEVELOPING: A whistleblower that works for the Whole Foods Market corporation want to inform Americans about a new policy change that allows Whole Foods to add food from the garbage back on the shelves without the customer’s knowledge.

Whole Foods calls this program the ‘Code Green Trash Inspections’ they claim exists to ‘help prevent waste.’

From the Whistleblower: “We have very poor upper management at Whole Foods Market and over the last few years they’ve implemented novel processes and procedures that have caused big increases in the amount of food we spoil.

Recently they instructed us to add an extra day of shelf-life to most of the items we produce in-house as a way of covering up the problem.

This lead to us selling stale and somet imes even moldy food. Now they are instructing us to take food out of the trash and put it in our prepared food items that we sell to customers.

The video below is from our June On Point training that we all have to complete. This video is publicly available online and all team members are required to do this training so I can only assume that management thinks this is appropriate. Posters for these trainings are plastered all over our back of house area.

I have attached a picture of the poster. These training materials are made by On Point but Whole Foods’ central office tells them what to say.”

I’m having trouble believing this is real. I find it hard to believe that the rules governing restaurants and food vendors would allow this. Also that the laws governing grocers would allow it. No one knows what the pepper came into contact with while in the garbage.


Could be another LOOK SQUIRREL honeypot operation.

Gail Combs

You forget that the FDA/USDA COVERED UP Con-Agra’s sale of e-coli contaminated beef FOR YEARS!

USDA will not disclose the names of slaughter houses without a positive test “above the grinder” – which is why there is no mention of where the meat came from that was ground by AFG in this latest recall. Also, on the “downside” of the grinder – on the retail side – there is also an agreement between USDA and industry to not disclose “proprietary information” – which includes where the contaminated meat was sold. Health Departments have to sign a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to not disclose that information to the public in order to get the information from USDA.

A Letter from John Munsell (One of my heroes for the work he did during the Farm Wars.)


Hello Amber:

I’d like to clarify two statements in your story entitled “House Hearing pits FSIS against FDA in search for answers”. 

The fourth paragraph includes the following statement: “If a food borne illness outbreak prompts a recall, FSIS has the ability to trace the source of the contaminated food back to its point of origin”.

The sixth paragraph from the end includes the following statement: “By having FSIS responsible for inspection, growth regulations and transportation to processors, it would rely on its vast inspector work force, HACCP program and electronic records for being able to trace any outbreak back to the original point of production,

both statements are blatantly false, but are central to the façade FSIS has orchestrated of the HACCP ideal

First of all, it’s necessary to explain that E.coli and Salmonella are “enteric” bacteria, which by definition means they originate within animals’ intestines, and by extension, on manure-covered hides. 

Slaughter facilities have intestines and manure-covered hides on their premises, which is where enteric bacteria are inadvertently transferred onto carcasses. The vast majority of destination facilities where meat is shipped do not have intestines or hides on their premises.

The quickest way to independently determine if tracebacks to the origin of meat contaminated with enteric bacteria are being accomplished is to communicate with every entity which has been involved in recalls of E.coli and salmonella-tainted meat this century. The vast majority of these establishments do not slaughter, but wholly depend on meat they purchase from their source slaughter providers. I have personally visited with perhaps the majority of these plants. I do not call plants if they slaughter, but restrict my calls to those who strictly further process. Once I describe to them how FSIS acted at my plant subsequent to a test which was positive for E.coli at my plant, these other plant owners readily opened their hearts to me, and divulged the whole truth of how FSIS treated them. I ask all of them “Did FSIS show any interest in tracing your contaminated meat back to your source slaughter provider?” The vast majority of them stated “None whatsoever”. They all went on to explain that FSIS investigators asked them where they purchased their meat. Then, the investigators spent the remainder of their time perusing all records at the impacted plant, made numerous accusations against the impacted plant, and concocted a plethora of additional suggestions (aka “requirements”) which the victimized plants were forced to implement to ostensibly prevent future recurrences. Interestingly, all the plant owners also volunteered that if they did comply with 100% of the agency’s suggestions/requirements, that the victimized plant would have zero ability to prevent recurrences of this scenario. They all opined that they had no control over the wholesomeness of meat they purchase from their source slaughter providers, and stated that any suggestion on their part to their suppliers would be ignored. My point is that if you or someone else would likewise contact all non-slaughter plants which have experienced recalls this century, you would independently validate the accuracy of my statements. 

My plant experienced a recall of 270 pounds of ground beef potentially contaminated with E.coli 0157:H7 in January 2002. The FSIS Inspector (Dan Ellis) who collected the sample informed the agency that the meat he had tested which was deemed positive emanated solely from coarse ground beef which I had purchased from a source slaughter provider. I believe that based on this fact, the agency’s enforcement actions against me were “fair”, initially. At the time, agency policy mandated that subsequent to a recall, that inspectors collect an additional 15 samples on consecutive days. Believe me, both the inspector and I copiously documented all evidence during those 15 additional samples. During the collection of those 15 samples, we experienced three consecutive days of E.coli positives: February 19, 20 & 21. When we were notified of the 3 positives, we immediately reviewed our records and discovered that the source meat we used on all 3 of the days came from one supplier, from the same production date and the same grinding batch number. The local inspector (Ron Irvine) and his veterinarian supervisor (Dr. Daryl Burden) handwrote and signed a letter in which they identified Est. 969 as the origin of the meat which provided the 3 consecutive days of positives. The letter was faxed to the FSIS office in Minneapolis, which subsequently stated that their two field personnel were not authorized to make that statement. This was correct! These two daring men were not authorized to tell the whole truth, which is an important fact to remember as we discuss the agency’s unwillingness to perform tracebacks to the origin.

After the 3 consecutive days of positive samples, the agency then recommenced the 15 sample protocol, and I again fully documented every piece of evidence associated with every test. Once I accumulated all evidence, I gave the inspector a packet which included copies of all evidence in the event we experienced another positive. The inspectors’ reactions were revealing. One inspector gladly accepted the evidence, and kept it in his files. Other inspectors (we had several fill-in inspectors at the time) were visibly nervous, stating they didn’t know what to do with the evidence, and would have to call the Minneapolis office for instructions. Some were told to throw all evidence away, some were told to return all evidence to me, and another was instructed to turn it upside down on his desk, pending lab results. Amber, don’t you wonder why the agency avoids authorizing inspectors to aggressively document all evidence?

For your information: the agency has since discontinued the 15 sample protocol. The evidence was too damaging!

When an inspector collects a ground beef sample for E.coli testing at a USDA lab, the inspector fills out FSIS Form 10,210-3 and sends it with the sample to the USDA lab. Nowhere on the form is there room to document the slaughter house origin of the meat which was sampled. So, if the sample was collected at Paul’s Processing Plant (which does not slaughter), the inspector can only document that it came from Paul’s facility, while deftly avoiding documenting the slaughter plant origin of the meat being tested for the presence of enteric bacteria.
Believe it or not, FSIS prohibited me from grinding meat under inspection for four months after I experienced the 3 consecutive days of E.coli positives. During that time, Est. 969 (ConAgra) was not required to implement any corrective actions. At the end of those four months, Est. 969 announced a 19.1 million pound recall, after which FSIS abruptly changed course and altruistically gave me the right to grind under inspection again. Two weeks later, I went public to expose agency actions at my plant since my recall. NBC Nightly News quickly visited me, spent 2 days taping at my plant, and announced that our story would be aired on Tom Brokaw’s evening segment. What happened next was, well, interesting to say the least.

On July 26, 2002, Cheryl A. Hicks (Program Manager in FSIS’ Office of Field Operations) sent an email to all FSIS District Office Managers with instructions for inspectors who collect ground beef samples for microbial analysis. Two statements in her email included the following:

  • “As discussed in our conference call on July 23, 2002, the following are the actions each District must take when an FSIS E.coli 0157:H7 monitoring sample is taken for ground beef”.
  • “At the time the sample is taken, the IIC will obtain from the establishment, the name, point of contact, and phone number for the establishments supplying the source materials for the lot of ground beef being sampled”.

Amber, it is ironic that the agency quickly changed its sampling procedures, and just prior to the program aired on NBC Nightly News. It also shows that the agency can easily mandate that its inspectors use unrestricted evidence gathering protocol when collecting samples, which should be mandatory in any science-based inspection system. 

Two inspectors at my plant started collecting evidence on a form which they provided to me after they completed the form. When the Minneapolis office received copies of the completed form, an agency inquiry began to determine who had authored this “phantom form”, as FSIS called it. No one stepped forward, as no one wanted to incur the wrath from an agency which was determined to withhold pertinent evidence.

A month later, the inspection force was informed to no longer document all evidence. However, the inspectors were not informed what the newest procedure should be. So, at an October 5, 2002 joint industry/FSIS meeting in Great Falls, I asked the Minneapolis office manager (Dr. Nathaniel Clark) what the proper current procedure was. Dr. Clark responded, in a public meeting “For legal reasons (emphasis added), the agency has decided to wait until the sample has been determined to be Presumptive Positive before asking for such evidence”. End quote. 

Two years ago, the new (& energetic) manager of the Minneapolis FSIS District Office (Jim Grems) instructed his inspectors to commence documenting the slaughter plant origin of meat being sampled at the time of sample collection. When USDA officials in Washington DC became aware of this, the Minneapolis office discontinued the practice.

Amber, when agency officials initially described HACCP to the industry in the mid-90’s, the agency made the following enticing promises:

    “Under HACCP, the agency will implement a “Hands Off” role in meat inspection”.

    “Under HACCP, the agency will no longer police the industry, but the industry will police itself”.

    “Under HACCP, the agency will disband its previous command and control authority”.

  • “Under HACCP, each plant will write its own HACCP Plan, and the agency cannot tell plants what must be in their HACCP Plans”.

Please remember these four promises, which FSIS made in numerous public settings.

FSIS justified HACCP on the premise that HACCP was “science based”, in contrast with the previous meat inspection system which was organoleptic in nature, meaning based on senses such as sight, smell, touch, etc. Newly-emergent invisible pathogens such as E.coli which caused the JITB outbreak could not be detected organoleptically. I personally attended official HACCP training sessions in Salt Lake City and Kansas City in early 1996. During both sessions, attendees pressed the FSIS presenter for a definition of what “science based” meant. The agency answer was 2-fold:

  • Microbiological testing. It is true that in the 54 years my plant had run prior to implementing HACCP, neither the agency nor I had ever collected samples for microbiological analysis. Since HACCP’s advent, both the agency and I have collected multiple dozens of samples.
  • HACCP Plans, SOP’s, SSOP’s, Prerequisite Plans, etc, all of which must be authored by meat plant operators or designees.

Amber, on 1-26-98, the biggest plants implemented HACCP. A mere six days later, FSIS released Directive 10,010.1 which exempted the big packers from agency-conducted microbial testing. Quick payback, wouldn’t you say?

Subsequent to ConAgra’s 19.1 million pound recall in June 2002, various news media, especially the Denver Post via Dave Migoya, printed numerous stories describing how ConAgra attempted to limit FSIS access to company-conducted microbial test results. The Greeley Tribune (where the ConAgra plant was located) reported that once the agency finally obtained access to ConAgra’s test results, the agency reviewed test results from the previous 100 days. Shockingly, the agency discovered that ConAgra had experienced E.coli positives on 34 of those 100 days. During those 100 days, FSIS did not require ConAgra to implement corrective actions, nor did the company do so of their own volition.

Amber, let’s return to the four agency promises used to entice the industry to voluntarily embrace the HACCP concept. The heart and soul of HACCP is deregulation, and food safety is an afterthought. I must admit that FSIS has fully complied with all four promises………….but only at the big packers. On the contrary, FSIS has performed the ultimate bait and switch at the small plants, where the agency is regularly noncompliant with all four promises……….at small plants.

Amber, FSIS ardently avoids any meaningful incidence of agency-conducted at big plants for several reasons:

  1. FSIS knows that some big slaughter houses continue to ship E.coli-contaminated meat into commerce. If this was not the case, why are we experiencing the huge number of outbreaks, and recalls, which have become apparent in 2007 & 2008? Furthermore, FSIS allows slaughter facilities to ship intact cuts of meat into commerce which are surface-contaminated with E.coli 0157:H7. Reasoning: the agency claims that E.coli 0157:H7 is NOT an adulterant when found on surfaces of intact meat. Yeah, right, and I am Darth Vader’s fairy godmother too.
  2. If FSIS implemented a large increase in agency-conducted microbial tests at the biggest slaughter facilities, the agency would quickly have evidence of the true origin and incidence of E.coli-contaminated meat. Such evidence would:
  3. Reveal that the agency has been intentionally asleep at the wheel at the big plants, by its own design, and
  4. Would reveal that some large slaughter plants have ongoing sanitation problems, in spite of their much-ballyhooed multiple hurdle pathogen interventions and HACCP Plans which constitute the cutting edge of scientific endeavors. 
  5. When the agency is forced to accept the full truth of the existence of recurring sanitation problems at the large slaughter plants, what can FSIS do? Because of the four initial promises I stated above, the agency cannot police the big plants, cannot utilize command and control, must maintain a “Hands Off” non-involvement role, and cannot tell the slaughter facility what must be in its HACCP Plan. If the agency would attempt any of these steps, it would find itself a defendant in litigation.

Amber, HACCP has eviscerated FSIS of any meaningful authority…………….at the biggest slaughter facilities. And, the agency frolics in its HACCP-provided comfort of semi-retirement……….at the biggest slaughter facilities. No way will FSIS countenance a change in its new-found comfort zone. However, if the agency were confronted with a bevy of incontrovertible microbial statistics which provide evidence of ongoing sanitation problems at the big packers, well, FSIS would be forced to negate all four promises it gave to the industry in the 90’s, get off its duff, and implement enforcement actions at the big slaughter entities.

The best way to prevent this level of discomfort is to adroitly avoid any tracebacks to the true origin, and instead to place all liability against the hapless, victimized downstream destination facilities which unwittingly purchase previously-contaminated meat from their suppliers. 

FSIS initially described HACCP as “Farm to Fork”. History has shown that FSIS interprets that today to mean “Further Processor to Consumer”. 

I could say lots more, and provide more evidence, but I’ve already spent six pages. Suffice it to say, FSIS not only avoids tracebacks to the origin, but has implemented policies preventing tracebacks. Perhaps a fitting conclusion to this letter is a statement made by Bill Smith at a Senate Field Hearing held in Billings Montana on December 11, 2002 entitled “Food Safety Recall Procedures”. On page 38 of the transcript of the hearing, I stated “….it is my contention that both the inspector and the plant management should work together and fully document all that information so that, in the future, three days later, if it (the sample) is presumptive-positive, there can be no question”. Part of Bill Smith’s response, found on page 39 of the transcript, was “…..we could have inspectors doing more important things”. Amber, I hope you realize now that now only does the agency consider the true origin of contaminated meat unimportant, but FSIS also would find such evidence damaging to the public relations image of the agency, as well as exposing HACCP’s underlying deregulatory faults.

I feel it important that you, and all America, know “the other side of the story”. Until we come to grips with the dark side of this HACCP Hoax, consumers will continue to get sick (some will die), while FSIS sleeps at the wheel, by its own intentional design. 

John Munsell, Manager

Foundation for Accountability in Regulatory Enforcement (FARE)

Miles City, Montana

April 4, 2009

Daily Kos actually published some of the letter plus other info. I also know ‘ScaredHuman’ and corresponded with her during the ‘Farm Wars’. She ‘disappeared’ after reporting people creeping around her home..


Guess I picked the wrong day to YOLO into Whole Foods stock…

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Whole Foods is a subsidiary of Amazon.


And went in the shizzer from the first day it happened.

Valerie Curren



I can’t watch that video without thinking of Eddie Murphy playing Buckwheat on Saturday Night Live 😂 🤣 😂


Last month entered a Whole Foods first time ever. Happened to be in Reno.

Likely staffed by, Freak R Us.

  • Staff had extensive tats, piercings on all I saw, anorexics or blimps.

Check out used the no cash machine. Told the tatted, pierced blimp wench, I had cash. She pointed to the sign. Asked where can I pay with cash. Pointed to the line at a register. Back and forth a few times.

  • Then wench asked me to come with her.
  • Followed her to the adjacent customer service, which she was staffing. Paid cash.

All to buy, Brazil nuts.

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(An all time fav)


Few days ago there was a discussion re Brazil nuts and the advice was eat one a day. Next time I was in Aldi I bought two bags to give it a try.
I know what I’m like with nibbles so had purposefully only snipped off a small corner of the bag so only one nut at a time could be squeezed out.
Well one more won’t hurt, but next out was a broken half so obviously that didn’t count….unless I found the other half.
Several nuts later another half appeared but it was too small to be a matching half,,,,the search continued.
By nightfall both bags were eaten, it was a lost cause.

Seen elsewhere…

“Lindsey “Ladybug” Graham gave us the first truly honest indication of why the bloodthirsty neocons want Ukraine so badly. Ironically, all he did was confirm how much richer and more powerful Russia will soon be when it captures Ukraine:”

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Dumbest thing ever for anybody to fall for the “save the Ukies” propaganda. They were toast from Day 1. You better believe all of DOD and the fake three letter intel agencies knew it as well. This has been one big genocidal sacrifice of human lives to Satanic gods as well as the usual money grab. Other than getting rid of the nazi element in Ukraine, the west is just testing their weaponry and tactics against Russia and its allies.

But at what cost to American citizens? The complete collapse of our economy? Being complicit with murderers through the use of our tax dollars and military support?

Barb Meier

My realtor’s company hired a company to powerwash my deck. The manager came with the guy who did the work to explain he did not speak much English. The doer guy was Ukrainian. He did a good job though we didn’t talk. It’s a huge deck on 3 sides of the house. At least one escaped the genocidal dying fields. OBiden probably had him flown in and planted here.


Be careful with Brazil nuts! They can lead to toxic levels of selenium in your body:

“These large, tropical nuts are the exception to the one-ounce-of-nuts-a-day rule because they contain highly concentrated amounts of the trace mineral selenium. In fact, one ounce of Brazil nuts (approximately 8 medium nuts) contains 544 micrograms of selenium, which is 777 percent of the recommended daily allowance. 

Eating too many Brazil nuts can lead to toxic levels of selenium in the body (selenosis) and cause symptoms such as bad breath, diarrhea, nausea, skin rashes/lesions, nerve pain and fatigue. In rare cases, very high levels can cause kidney failure, cardiac arrest and even death.”,cardiac%20arrest%20and%20even%20death.

Barb Meier

Thank you, Aubergine!!! When I was a kid, the Glass Company where dad got new windshields for vehicles he was repairing sent us a big Christmas container of mixed nuts. There were only a few of the Brazil nuts and we did not eat lots. No one ever explained they could be dangerous back then. I’m saving your text so I don’t forget in the firehose of daily info. 




AND, IMO, if a person is already taking a Selenium supplement; or if they’re taking a prescription drug for their thyroid — TALK WITH A DOCTOR before starting Brazil nuts.

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Good idea!


Certainly not medical advice from Slow Guy.

WebMD has an interaction checker. Good for meds, supplements… Perhaps type in selenium, rather than Brazil nuts.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

So what is the interaction of selenium and thyroid medication? I was not aware of that one!


Wolf Moon
If Yours Truly’s understanding is correct, if a person is taking thyroid medication to lower the TSH level, there needs to be caution regarding taking selenium (which can also lower the TSH level.)

Barb Meier

😂 RAC’s Brazil nut immersion therapy!! Please let us know if the blast of Brazil nuts makes you feel better or heaven forbid is too much of a good thing.

Thank you for the reminder too! I could not remember the name of nut we needed, but knew what they look like, an oldtime nickname (something like monkey toes), and that we should just eat one a day. I also cannot say what they help with, but I know it’s good for us. Gail explained she eats just one a day as part of her regimen. Every day is an info firehose.

I was looking for monkey toes at the store (nobody else would know them by that name and store employees would think I was nutz if I asked for monkey toes). An older lady came up beside me asking where the free cashews were at. I thought if they marked the 16 oz can of Cashews in the aisle as “BOGO,” all the items in that area would be gone.

I suggested she find the kind of nuts described on the little coupon, take two to the checkout, and if the coupon wasn’t good there, the nice checkout person could get them back on the shelf. I didn’t see monkey toes. I’ll look for Brazil nuts later.

I got paying work that started on Tuesday with high hopes this will grow into full time busy again. God is so good.

This is the first since Feb 2023. I’m trying to not get too far out over my skis, but good grief… I’m helping with proposals and other stuff like my new company’s website and their Employment Agreement (Can I take 11 pages of legal down to 1 page? I stripped out formatting and headings and got plain text down to 4 pages yesterday. I will distill the content and reformat today, so we’ll see. I’ll be happy if it’s 3 or 4 pages.)

Best of all, I worked with the new company’s owner 2004-2007 (pre-Obama/Biden) and trust her judgment. Tuesday and Wednesday I prettified four resumes (MSEE and BSEE) of hw/sw overachievers at one of the new company’s clients. Big fun!!!


No ill effects noted, just annoyed with self for not having the will or more rather the won’t power to stick with the plan.

Barb Meier

Oh that’s good news, RAC!!! I was thinking to suggest mineral oil if you haven’t already digested them, hoping the problem would pass…

Valerie Curren

Congrats on the new gig that fits you so well!!!  😍  They are So Blessed to have you on board!


Aldi. Got one of them fifteen minutes away. Will look for Brazil nuts there. Holding the line at one a day.   :wpds_wink: 

Yea, Ms Linda surely confirmed our interest in Ukraine is all about money. Nothing to do with democracy, which doesn’t exist in Ukraine.

Gail Combs


The reason for one a day is SELENIUM POISONING! I keep other nuts, like cashews, almonds, walnuts, peanuts near my Brazil nuts so when the binge munches hit I can switch to a different type of nut.

Why You Should Never, Ever Binge on Brazil Nuts

Brazil nuts are a good source of protein, dietary fiber, heart-healthy mono- and polyunsaturated fats, vitamins and minerals. However, they contain a potentially toxic compound that, if ingested in more than the recommended amount, could lead to health risks including poisoning. Learn why you should ​never binge on Brazil nuts!​

Danger of Selenium Content

Brazil nuts contain a ​high content​ of the trace mineral selenium. Although selenium is needed by your body to survive, toxic amounts can be dangerous. Only a ​minute amount​ is needed to maintain its important role as an antioxidant to support your immune system and help regulate your thyroid, among other biological functions….




Well, they DO sort their garbage, and donate some of the food. There is a video on their own website about Code Green. And in the video, it does say that the program helps them “reduce their own shrink.”

Shrink is defined as loss of inventory that could otherwise be sold. So, that means to me they find things in the garbage they’re sorting that are returned to the shelves.

Here’s the page with the video:


Who would EVER shop at Whole Paycheck?

Gail Combs




I remember when they opened up in Manhattan on 7th and 23rd? Somewhere near.

Tried to buy something for lunch one afternoon.

Crazy then!!!!!




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Donald’s Bday tomorrow.


This is one person’s perspective about living in our current times.
by danneskjold

Hello, Late Night Crew! Welcome to another edition of the LNC! Tonight I want to remind you all of how lucky you are to be living right now.

You could have been born in the 1750’s and seen the founding of our country. You could have raided boats in the harbor and thrown all of their tea overboard in protest of a 3% tax. You could have fought in the revolutionary war and shot some redcoats from the trees as they marched by like idiots in formation. You could have crossed the Delaware River on Christmas Eve with George Washington and killed the British army in their sleep. But that was not your time.

You could have been born in the 1840’s and witnessed the war between the states. You could have fought at Gettysburg or Antietam or Chancellorsville and shot your brother. You could have been one of the 600,000 Americans who died to keep this country together and allow it to be the greatest superpower this world has ever seen. But that was not your time.

You could have been born in the 1920’s and been a part of the greatest generation. You could have landed at Normandy to take back a continent and ensure freedom for millions of people and ultimately, the world. You could have been on the plane that dropped the first atomic bomb on a nation gone insane, willing to suicide bomb our ships to gain naval supremacy in the Pacific. But that was not your time.

Your time is now. You get to witness the greatest revolution in the history of mankind. You grew up in a country so full of corruption where nobody cared enough to do anything until one man. You are the luckiest of them all. You don’t have to do anything but sit in your basements and shitpost, and President Donald J. Trump will ride your energy and fix this whole country. He’s making a mockery of our broken system while be builds support for his second Presidential term — this time with a proper mandate to clean house. He’s going to save our country from what we have allowed it to become, and you all have a front-row seat to the action.

What an amazing time we live in, and I am so privileged to be here sharing it with all of you. Please remember that President Trump cannot do this without our support. You are the shitposters and you are the makers of the memes. Please do not disappoint the one man who has it all on the line in order to make our country great again.

In honor of the man himself, let’s close this out with some of President Trump’s favorite tunes. Keep the memes and shitposts coming!

Lionel Richie – Hello

Guns N’ Roses – November Rain

Elvis Presley – Suspicious Minds

James Brown – It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World

Frank Sinatra – My Way


Pretty good but it wasn’t the British military – it was Hessians.

And they weren’t killed in their sleep [our Founders weren’t psycho killers] – they were woken up to realize they were captives.


“Pretty good but it wasn’t the British military – it was Hessians.”


Coulda been Haitians. They spelled things differently back then 👍

Gail Combs

Go read the Prussiagate Series. 😋


Just what I don’t need – another place to lose track of time.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol: ….

And boy would you!

It really is an interesting series.

Barb Meier

Perhaps if we start here…

The Power of the Prussian Micropenis


Is that something to which you want me to aspire?

I’d be crushed.  😥 

Barb Meier

It was actually a very interesting substack article with lots of interesting photos and explanations. It’s not till near the end that Hitler’s microweinie is mentioned…

Valerie Curren






Could have been transgender swimmers.

But it was Hessians.  😉 


“Could have been transgender swimmers.”


Seems unlikely.

Not even close to Haitians.

Or even Hessians.


Psychotic killers is definitely more intimidating.


Ha!!! RISD drove these guys to do this.

One other architecture alum opened up a bar called the Hot Club in Providence and is effectively taking the money of all current RISD students and others. SMAAT!!!

Me? I stupidly went into the ARCH profession and still need my retirement money and SS.


Oh and PS, when I transferred to RISD from another university with a horrible drug-infestation problem, RISD had NO drug problem.

These students were just…off the WALL!!!! At will, not drugged.

I was pretty much normal.


It is amusing how many rock bands originated in art schools.


The Talking Heads realized how much money they were spending…going to an art school?????


I actually received a second degree at 20K per year for three years (I was accepted at RISD but started at another university), and got a free 6-week trip to Egypt out of it, so I feel I came out even.

God knows how much the cost is now.

I even have camel pictures Gail would love to have for Wednesdays. Wolf would cherish these!!!! I am scared to post because the gubmint might come after me!


PS Of course, the trip to Egypt was not free. Just included.

Yet, including the train trip up the Nile, the TWA jet trip, hotels and meals, it might have been about $10K.

So the UNESCO tenured-prof got his sweater with leather patches on his elbows, over-priced salary, and I got a piece of paper.


Unleashed talent.


“Stop Making Sense” is one of the greatest concert films of all time — and I do not say this just because our godkids’ mother blew up the sound system in the biggest auditorium on campus when she was showing the film.

“Psycho Killer” was the introductory song, coming from their first halfway-successful album. It highlights their quirky, under-resourced, barely musical roots. The songs progress in complexity as band members and stage elements are introduced along the way. The cinematography is excellent, as with the footsteps into this first number.

By the time the full band is onstage, belting out “I Zimbra” — Dadaist poetry chanted over an afro-beat — the audience is fully “on the ride”.

That this pivotal moment was edited out of early releases of the concert film was regrettable.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Also they may have marched in formation but not like idiots; they had flankers whose job it was to beat the bushes either side of the line of advance.


Were the bushes threatening them?

Were they rare North American Danger bushes?

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Gail Combs

Full of POISON IVY….


They were dangerous if they had colonial farmers hiding in them.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, they were looking for…well, basically, the patriots. Or anyone else anywhere else in the world who might try the tactic.

In other words, the idea that they just marched along and let themselves get picked off without doing anything to counter it…is bullshit. They didn’t gain that empire through stupidity.


“…they had flankers whose job it was to beat the bushes either side of the line of advance.”

Just not well enough to defeat Francis Marion, The Swamp Fox.


When you realize your country is just a bunch of mercenary gorilla-warfarers.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA




Gail Combs

“….You grew up in a country so full of corruption where nobody cared enough to do anything until one man…”

BULL SCHIFF, The Tea Party started the MAGA movement but the Uniparty united to squash it flat. Then Trump came down the elevator seven years later and the Tea Party turned into MAGA! We just needed a REAL LEADER.


As a local tea party organizer from the start, it’s nice to hear from someone who knows the truth. Most people think the tea party movement was a failure.  🙂 

Gail Combs

NOPE, It just went underground for a while.


Far from it. And some of us were following Donald Trump from 1984.

Hmmm…maybe earlier. When he saved the Commodore Hotel. late 70’s.

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Little Feat has a great old song about the Commodore Hotel, and all the boys down at the bar, and a certain Dixie Chicken 👍 😁

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OMG!!!!! And I saw Little Feat AND Charlie Daniels!!!!!


Bridgeport, CT.


What could go wrong?!? 👍 😂


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Brave and Free

Exactly, good way to never walk again.


Celebrating being idiots.


The patio they missed by about two feet isn’t deep enough.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s the big issue for me. You cannot make a mistake. Just a minor slip on the launch, or a bad angle to compensate for balance, and it’s potentially death or lifelong paralysis for two people.


Fortunately the edge of the roof is strong enough… 😂


I wouldn’t trust it!!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Me neither!


Wolf, you are such a marvelous host for the throes of me…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Just deep enough, as long as it gets done right.

I’ll bet their feet touched bottom. As long as the trick works, they’re at lower risk, because feet grazing the bottom is fine, but if he had tipped off balance on the approach, and had to half-ass it to clear the edge of the concrete, at 1/2 spin less, they could have entered head-first. Even a light head knock on the bottom is dangerous as hell.

Such tricks are a lot safer with one person. Trying to control it with two people – to me that’s scary.

Brave and Free

Yup, broke my arm diving off a dock into shallow water on a dare when I was about eight. Young and dumb.

Valerie Curren

Joni Erickson Tada comes to mind…


Now that’s racin’!


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Gail Combs

These are the kids and the bus driver (Ed Ray)they buried alive in the trailer. The hatch was covered with a metal plate and weighed down with industrial sized batteries before being further buried. This happened in 1976.

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I remember that crime being extensively covered by the media.

Gail Combs

I missed it because we were in Germany.


The wiki article said both the 14 year old boy and bus driver were instrumental in the escape. Didn’t notice a 14 year old boy in the picture so did a search on the name. Seems there’s a bit of back story that may not of come out at the time. The boy, Mike Marshal
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was only on the school bus that day because his mother was punishing him for stealing her beer. For that he had to take the bus home. So it was a one time affair for him. It was at his insistence after several failed attempts that they not give up trying to move the metal sheet that got them out of there.

Mike today from a Jan 2024 story.
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More to the story here.

Gail Combs

Badlands News Brief – June 12, 2024

Gordon aka Ghost does a much better job than I can in summarizing the situation and the Breaking History video.


Banana company Chiquita found liable for sending money to a Colombian paramilitary group

Ajury in Florida on Monday found Chiquita Brands International, one of the world’s largest banana companies, liable for making payments that funded a paramilitary group in Colombia.

A lawsuit, which was brought to the federal court in the Southern District of Florida, …

The jury in the civil case ordered Chiquita to pay the families a total of $38.3 million…

“Chiquita knowingly provided substantial assistance to the AUC to a degree sufficient to create a foreseeable risk of harm to others,” the jury determined. It also found that the company failed to “act as a reasonable businessperson would have acted under the circumstances.” — Just the News

Our Take: 
Back on February 7, on Breaking HistoryMatthew Ehret and I were joined by our old friend War Hamster (Brady), who has an expertise in this kind of history, so much of this background comes directly from him—and is accurate.

Brady told us about the origins of the banana trade, and how it became a central part of CIA operations.

In 1880, a 21 year-old American named Minor Cooper Keith moved to Costa Rica to work for his uncle’s railroad company, which was ceded to him just two years later. The company was contracted with the Costa Rican government, which defaulted on its payments, so Keith raises 1.2 billion pounds from your favorite London banks, and buys them out. He completes the railroad in 1890, but Central America is lacking in passenger-customers. So Keith gets into the banana business.

Fun Fact: Bananas are not actually indigenous to the Americas. They come from Southeast Asia. But Keith had been experimenting with planting bananas on American soil since 1873, and finally got them to take in the tropical climate. He partnered with M.T. Snyder and Tropical Trading and Transport Company, and together they expanded the banana industry from Costa Rica to Panama and Colombia. The business took off, and by the turn of the century, bananas were the second-most consumed food in America.

In 1899, due to financial setbacks, Keith merged his company with Boston Fruit Company, which already had an established empire in the West Indies (Caribbean), forming United Fruit Company. They immediately have a strangle over the fruit trade which ultimately translates to control over the logistics and transport of all freight. They were nicknamed El Popo —”The Octopus”—because this dominion over all long-distance transportation gave them natural political power that they freely exerted over these developing nations, propping up dictators and literally creating the term “banana republic.” (Yes, that’s the actual origin.)

The Spanish-American Civil War of 1898 destabilized the entire region, and a law firm was on the ground waiting—and maybe played a hand in fomenting the unrest.
That law firm was Sullivan & Cromwell, the firm responsible for inventing the holding company, or “parent company,” as it’s known today. But they are more infamous employing the Dulles brothers for most of their professional lives, as well as other notable CIA figures. The relationship between these lawyers and United Fruit would lead to the latter playing a starring role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, among other lesser known revolutions.

After being exposed for its CIA-connections and related activities in the 1980’s, United Fruit rebranded itself as Chiquita Banana. And evidently, they are still involved in some pretty dark stuff in Central America.

The point is, bananas were created and marketed as a product so that these familiar oligarchs could cultivate the political clout necessary to control governments in Central America, which was necessary in order to engage in the trade of other commodities from that region… — 



Note AUC is called ‘Right-wing’ I am beginning to think that is ‘code’ for NAZI (National Socialists) Remember a whole heck of a lot of actual Nazis escaped to Latin America 80 years ago and were recruited by the CIA.

June 2012 Colombia Reports:
Paramilitary emails allege CIA worked with AUC

An estimated 700 emails from the computer of former AUC commander and drug lord Vicente Castaño revealed the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and many top Colombian politicians may have been working with the paramilitary group.

The emails, uncovered by RCN Radio, were delivered to Colombia’s Prosecutor General’s Office by former AUC member and Castaño confidante, Jesus Ignacio Roldan Perez, alias “Monoleche.”

One of the messages revealed that Vicente’s brother Carlos, who founded the extreme right paramilitary group the Peasant Self-Defense Forces of Cordoba and Uraba (ACCU) with Vicente, allegedly spoke with CIA agents to help American authorities capture the leaders of the Cali CartelGilberto Rodriguez Orejuela and Jose Santacruz-Londoño.

Santacruz-Londoño was killed in 1996 while attempting to flee police after escaping from a Bogota prison months before. Rodriguez, who was extradited to the U.S. in 2004, is currently serving a 30 year sentence in Pennsylvania for drug trafficking.

The emails also implicated several high-ranking members of former President Alvaro Uribe’s administration. Former Minister of the Interior and Justice Sabas Pretelt de la Vega, who was already banned from holding political office for 12 years for accepting bribes in the “Yidispolitica” scandal, reportedly pledged to present a law that would prevent the extradition of AUC members to the U.S.

“If you make me a guarantee, and I comply with the agreements, I will surrender [to authorities],” Vicente Castaño wrote to Pretelt.


CBS — Chiquita funded Colombian terrorists for years. A jury now says the firm is liable for killings.

Chiquita had previously acknowledged funding the paramilitary group, pleading guilty in 2007 after the U.S. Department of Justice charged the company with providing payments to what the agency labeled a “terrorist organization.” The group, the Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia, or AUC, received payments from Chiquita from about 1997 through 2004, which the company had described as “security payments” during the country’s internal conflict. 

The decision marks the first time an American jury has held a large U.S. corporation liable for a major human rights violation in another country…

Several decades ago, when the conflict in Colombia drove down prices of land in the country’s banana-growing regions, Chiquita took advantage of the situation by expanding its operations…



Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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Most of the time we just accept
Our daily lot in life
But sometimes we are so inept
The challenges are rife

We have the tendency to forget
Just how powerful You are
In a pool of pity we regret
Bumping heads with the bizarre

We have not because we ask not
It is as simple as that
Prayers unanswered we are taught
Unworthy are we to chat 

Whoever told you that demon lie
Was far removed from His Word
They tell you give up give in and die
They hide the truth keep it blurred 

Why are there no miracles
As were in Our Savior’s day
Where are the holy oracles
That teach us the perfect way

What are we missing we cannot receive
Is it unworthiness or unwillingness
That makes it impossible to believe
Methinks it is our willy nillyness 

Do you believe in miracles
Have you experienced any today
Are they everlasting durables
Did He not promise to make straight your way

So many are in need of a miracle
Broken bodies, minds, and souls
We even call ourselves deplorable
Shattered to pieces like potholes

Worthy are we of God’s highest blessing
Do not doubt the Power of God
Press in Press in and be ever pressing
Give Him Praise, Honor, Glory and Laud

We need a miracle from God Most High
Our nation in peril and illness abound
We are stressed out and anxious why oh why
We are depressed with no cure to be found

Do you doubt His unconditional love
Did He want us to be miserable
No desires of the heart from above
Well that is just wrong and unbiblical

In His Word he teaches us the secrets
Of living a full and abundant life
That our suffering is all but needless
By His Mighty Hand He cuts through the strife

Well we need a miracle right here and now
Not just for one but for all the many
We need to experience them now somehow
We ask and receive them all a plenty

D01: 04/28/2023

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, we do need a miracle! 😍

copied to The Poetry Tree!


THANK YOU so much for your poem today! And for all the wonderful inspiring things you bring to the board every day.

Negative events in life can distort / influence / skew a person’s perception of their present life and of reality. Negative events that happen in childhood can have a lot of influence later on in a person’s life related to their perception of their present and of reality.
It can be difficult to follow what the Almighty says through the prophet Isaiah:

Isaiah 43:18-19 (NIV)
18 Forget the former things; do not dwell on the past.
19 See, I am doing a new thing! Now it springs up; do you not perceive it? I am making a way in the desert and streams in the wasteland.

Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well. Sending much Good Energy to you.


Psalm 91.The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing

#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday


Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.

#faith #god #psalms

Pray Everyday




A reminder…


The sauce on the Russian market, the Moscow Exchange, suspending trading in dollars (and euros):

“June 12 (Reuters) – New U.S. sanctions against Russia have forced an immediate suspension of trading in dollars and euros on its leading financial marketplace, the Moscow Exchange (MOEX.MM)
The exchange and the central bank rushed out statements on Wednesday – a public holiday in Russia – within an hour of Washington announcing a new round of sanctions aimed at cutting the flow of money and goods to sustain Russia’s war in Ukraine.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Obama and Biden would destroy this nation just to piss off Russia.

Soviet dickheads.




“Saudi Arabia will not renew its 50-year petrodollar agreement with the United States, which expired on Sunday, June 9, 2024.

This will allow the Saudis to sell oil in any currency, and not just in US dollars, as was previously the case.”


This AI stuff is getting pervasive. Type in a search item into the phone, for example, “how to cook an egg”, and up pops AI “advice” right at the top of the answers.


Most, if not all, search engines are now A.I. backboned.


Yes. And unless a person is willing/has the intellectual fortitude, to scroll past the AI “advice” that pops up first, they’ll go with that “advice”—which may or may not apply to what they’re looking for.


Here are all of them. Even Amal clooney got one.

Street artist Sabo hits LA ahead of the Clooney sponsored Biden fundraiser
byu/Educational_Copy_140 inTheDonaldTrump2024




To avoid such long URLs, deleting everything after the “?” yields this:


Got it- thanks.


I wonder if they lifted it from one of our many posts on operation gladio? Or maybe they secretly set aside one of Gail’s posts to their site and are now rolling it out fresh as newly spaded dirt. 😆

Gail Combs

I got Gladio from Ghost and Matt and War Hamster and THE COLONEL’S CORNER aka Colonel Towner-Watkins. BTW she did aircraft maintenance. because she is 5 ft 2. The guys quickly found she was very useful because she fit into spaces comfortably where they could not..😋

She is really interesting to listen to.

Here she is on Alpha Warrior. (I love his voice. BTW the FIB is going after him too.)

Gail Combs

OH MY, I am just starting this. At 16 mins The Colonel TIES IN WEXNER AND EPSTEIN…

Operation Gladio goes back to the OSS UK and WWII. It is STILL in operation. She esentially says we see bits and pieces but you need the Op Gladio framework to hang everything on for it to make sense.

At 19 minutes, the Vatican figures heavily into Gladio. They were a money laundering outfit for Gladio. (And yes she is a Christian and says she has felt a guiding hand in her research.) She also says she lost 2 of her researchers because of the Vatican connection BUT she said There is NO ONE whose rice bowl got peed in more than vets. Because you realise EVERY mission you were on was FOR the international syndicate (I call it the Cabal) more than for the USA…. She says EVERYTHING she talks about has been proven, it is not a theory. I am picky about the authors I use. I want to see the State department Cables, I want to see the financial transactions…

BOY does this shed light on WHY they went after WikiLeaks so hard!

Gail Combs

CRAP this looks like a really important video.

… 23 minutes. the group she mention in her article ‘the Werewolves’ were Nazi stay behind units. There are some IN THE USA today. Also the group training the Ukrainians is called GREY WOLF…

Weapons stashes are often in parks [THINK UN & WWF ‘parks’ Often they are CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC! In one case in Africa they were using natives as prey to HUNT! Now think of US parks and Indian res here in the USA that are occupied by illegals and the cartels.]

24:30 a Dutchman spent 4 years hunting stay behind stashes in Holland and found a ton of them. She has the documentary up on her Twitter. She had someone subtitle it in English.

In Italy alone there were over 600 of these stashes! = 600 stay behind units with 15 to 20 people in each unit…. It is also referred to as ‘Strategy of Tension’. [Italy is where the story was blown wide open BTW LINK]


Back to this later, I have to start cutting veggies for Dinner.

Barb Meier

Thanks for this, Gail. There is something wonderfully funny about you digging up this video on Op Gladio, giving us a play by play of the scurrilous plans, and then taking a break to cut veggies for dinner.

Valerie Curren

Is this one of those things that you might gather together into its own post, is it that crucial? God Bless you for All that you do!


Jim Jones, well-known to Barbara Boxer and Nan…he turned on them.


I thought so, too!

Gail Combs

Jim, make sure you strip the end off before posting the URL. I got a notification that you had recommended it and it seemed to use your real name.

Gail Combs

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OK guys, now that I have your attention…
Ivan Raiklin interviews Sarah McAbee(above) & Trennis Evans about Jan 6th.

During the first part Ivan goes into WHY Nasty the Pig Louse is a MAJOR PLAYER unlike what Mike Benis says.

The FB-Lie is STILL raiding and arresting US citizens INSTEAD OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TERRORISTS! It is now up to 1500 prisoners many of whom are LEOs and military Vets. (78% I think Treniss said.)



Ivan talks with Treniss Evans about the status of republican voting prisoners, and his efforts to help these victims of civil rights abuses through his organization, Condemned USA.

“CONDEMNED USA is a united front of Americans dedicated to sharing the truth that leads to change. We are a team of citizen journalists, investigators, community leaders, speakers, and contributors in effort to preserve the sanctity of American Institutions. “

Learn more:
Support at:

Sarah also has a site to help. She “…is the Co-Founder and Executive Director of Stand in the Gap, a non-profit foundation that emerged in response to the events of January 6, 2021. The treatment and legal challenges faced by the January 6t