For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.
We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.
For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.
Primary Update Links:
- Links to the USA CoronaVirus Task Force: http://coronavirus.gov/
- Johns Hopkins CSSE Dashboard to update number of “official” cases within China and worldwide: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
- Another summary of data, updates and sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
- Hard Link to the World Health Organization: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
- Hard Link to the Center for Disease Control: CDC Updates: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:
- Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
- Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
- Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates
- Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
- China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
- An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
- Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
- Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
- Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.
- Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
- Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
- Other news items
Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:
- January 25th, Our first thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/25/20200125-coronavirus/
- January 27th, Our second thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/27/20200127-coronavirus-update-thread/
- February 1st-9th, Our third thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/01/20200201-coronavirus-update-thread-3/
- February 10th – 18th, Our Fourth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/10/20200210th-19th-coronavirus-thread/
- February 19-29th: Our Fifth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/18/20200218th-29th-coronavirus-update-thread/
- March 1-10th, Our Sixth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/2020-march1st-7th-coronavirus-covid19-xivirus-wuflu-6th-update-thread/
- March 9-16th, Our Seventh Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/09/2020-march-9th-16th-coronavirus-covid19-xivirus-wuflu-7th-weekly-update-thread/
Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.
Love to all!
The meme above is a good one to keep when the media starts howling.
Maybe we should invest in bubble wrap. Wrap oneself up before gong out? Or those plastic zorb things. Bumper zorbs?
You joke, Kea, but I saw several photos of people in China literally doing that!
My favorite, a woman (?) encased in a huge black trash bag with an opened umbrella inside of it standing in line in a bank.
Saw lots of creative, clear deep-sea diver-type helmets made from large containers with the bottom cut off and the person just fitting it over their entire heads. If, in fact, you can become infected through the eyes (??) as some suggested …rather clever.
Any mucus membrane but the eyes are easy. Someones sneeze travels and your eyes get droplets.
Maybe we should get motor cycle helmets with the face guard? 🙂
School chem lab goggles git snug not tight and a face mask that snugly fits over nose and just under chin.
Anyone who wears a mask but pulls it diwn under their nose is an idiot. Just dont wear one then.
I do recommend glasses for airborne protection – even a pair of safety glasses. And eyedrops throughout the day to cleanse eyes. Great for pollen season but also virus. We tend to underestimate that our eyes are a fluid receptor, as well as we touch them more often than we realize.
Whoops…meant to link to Candace instead:
Yes Katie Hopkins just posted about this as well
https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1246159519358558212
Fraud and will not allow for proper disease study or input into models. Coroners should take bloood and tissue samples from everyone, even if they havent proven disease yet. Its the doctors and coroners who determine death certificate. We will go back and go after those committing fraud.
Anything can be covered up by the doctor and hospital. My mom died from a bacterial infection on her lungs. She needed antibiotics.
The doctor waited until he grew a damn culture. Other doctors protested saying she had something on her lungs. When the pulmonary guy, whom I didn’t authorize to be called in, finally phoned me via the floor nurse in ICU, all excited that their fing culture showed pseudomonus, she was nearly dead. They put her on a ventilator and IV drips. She died the next night. Cause of death on her death certificate said heart failure.
Did you sue?
Lawyers live for that kind of lawsuit.
No. Our extended family was going through heart crushing stuff at time besides the death of our mother.
I am so sorry.
May the Lord continue to comfort you and all those that endured this injustice.
The really sad part is that my mom wanted to go to the nursing home because she thought she might be able to have more human interaction with people her own age, plus she really could no longer take care of herself. She was there three months and got pseudomonas which is easily cured by antibiotics.
My friend who was a nurse at another hospital told me that they immediately put people on antibiotics when elderly are brought in from nursing homes with her symptoms. This unfortunately was after my mom died.
Yes, many times our hindsight adds to the anguish of what was an unnecessary premature loss of a loved one. Many times I find it hardest to forgive institutional sins. But harboring the unforgiveness will only hurt me.
I learned after my dad died when Iwas 10 that I had to forgive the doctor for letting my dad out of the hospital with a fever. He died two days later. Later in life I learned that a fever often accompanies a blood clot. He died of a blood clot to his lung.
Then I learned to forgive when my father-in law died of pneumonia after surgery. Then my mother-in- law died from an infection after bowel resectioning…she was fed broiled chicken…not jello or other soft foods…broiled chicken which blew a hole in her newly resectioned bowel. We have had a lot of practice in forgiveness. If I get past this cancer, I know it is God’s doing, in spite of the medicals.
“Jesus wept.”
The verse that allows me to fall into His arms and let him hold me in my pain.
Sometimes I see myself falling asleep or just being held in the palm of God’s enormous loving hand.
<3
Thats awful. Im sorry for you and her.
Thank you Gil00. After 20 years I still miss her.
I’m so sorry for your loss & the brutal & insensitive way your mother & family were treated. God comfort & keep you in His perfect peace that passes understanding…
Thank you Valerie. It probably is standard treatment, but only a smidgeon of people realize it.
That’s so sad but truer than I want to believe. We’ve been blessed (for the most part) in the medical arena w/ our special needs son…but special educational malpractice…well that’s a completely different tale. Thankfully God is so gracious & merciful to intervene in our son’s life & bring him so much further along than Any “experts” could ask or imagine!
When my great nephew was born w Down Syndrome the docs immediately told my nephew that his son would never be able to do anything to take care of himself and he may never be able to even walk.
He 14, a good swimmer, plays soccer is mainstreamed in school even though he cannot read. He is a willing helper as long as he has instruction and is a really loving, caring young man.
Wonderful! I’ve always said that the Only One who knows what my son is capable of is God himself…so all “experts” are taken with a salt mine! Sounds like your nephew is doing well. What a Blessing!
So true Valerie. Caring for a special needs child is anything but easy. God bless you and yours with an abundance of help, joys and love only God can bestow.
Thanks so much, Jane. & may the Lord be with you in His loving, healing, joyful, & peaceful Presence. In spite of all the challenges you’ve faced before &/or are still facing I pray that you can find joy in the journey & continue to be a Light shining into whatever darkness you encounter…overcoming evil, death, & despair with His Love, Power, Peace, & Joy!
http://www.joypsalms.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Inspirational-Psalm-Bible-Verse1.jpg
I hope these bible verses will encourage you 🙂 Blessings!
Thank you Valerie. They are beautiful and truth. Even though I gripe about some things, I always know in my heart, soul and mind that God has everything in His Hands.
Amen! We who have been through stuff Know that we are not in control of what swirls about us. Thank the Lord that we can trust Him. “Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him”…
Amen. That slaying part is purification. We are not able to know, love, see Him completely until we are like Him in love.
& that process is completed on the other side of the veil where we can see Him face-to-face & not have our view distorted by our sin nature! “For me to live is Christ & to die is gain!” (not that I’ve personally arrived at Really understanding that passage, just recognize that it is Truth!)
Amen.
Candace mulling over whether to run for office:
I hope she does. I know sometimes it’s better from the outside BUT we need new people in power kicking a$$
Strong, vocal, intelligent, articulate, young, conservative, drop-dead gorgeous black woman representing conservative America in Congress??
Be still my heart! 🥰😍
Wouldn’t be allowed in the Black Caucus…I seem to recall Col Alan West wasn’t because he wasn’t “one of them.” Criteria seems to be anti-America and dumb as a door nob.
The BC needs to be disbanded
Or at least change name to brown and black caucus so AOC can join. 😜
You bet we do, kea!
All best wishes to you and yours, especially during this precarious time.
You as well!! 🙂
Thank you! 🙂
Well ain’t that speshul.
“I’ve spoken to nurses at dozens of hospitals who have told me they are classifying every death they can as coronavirus in order to get more funding from the government.
They both told me that their hospitals started doing it after learning that others were.”
________________
Is everyone corrupt?
Is being a corrupt person just the “norm” after 8 years of Hussein?
What’s wrong with these nurses?
They just do it because they heard everybody else is doing it?
If they hear that somebody hooked a car battery up to their nipples, are they going to do that too?
WTH?
I’m sure a lot of them are doing as they’re told.
“I’m sure a lot of them are doing as they’re told.”
______________
Well that’s always the excuse, isn’t it?
I knew it was wrong, obviously, but don’t blame me, I was just doing what I was told!
How did that work out for the Nazis?
Following unlawful orders is not a defense.
It’s not a defense. Definitely not.
But it is human nature… they’re in the middle of a mess, working long and hard hours, and they’re all frazzled… talking B.S. at the end of their shifts… turning around and doing it over again… what should I code this as? Just code it this way… but what if it’s not that? Doesn’t really matter, blah blah blah, rationalization justification, just code it that way… tired, frazzled, and lacking the rest that is needed for maximum executive function and self-regulation… give up, short cut and code it the easy way.
Then they exist in a CULTURE of CORRUPTION, and that culture only exists because the leadership has either fostered it by example or tolerated it.
It’s exactly what happens when no one is ever held accountable, for anything.
C O R R U P T I O N.
That’s what happened with the ACA and loss of hospital’s and when we put priorities on making $$$ at said hospital’s.
Scott THE DOCTOR is the one to make the decision not the nurse. All she does is write what he dictates.
….
A friend was a nurse. A patient died because the doctor left gauze called a sponge in the incision. She KNEW he had, called him on it at the time and was shutdown. After the patient died she went to the hospital board about it AND THEY FIRED HER!
The ONLY options for the peons are GET FIRED OR QUIT! This by the way is WHY they want to shutdown small business. They want to make sure rebellion = a death sentence.
BTDT as a QC engineer and got blackballed!
…..
At least with the internet the nurses can now be whistleblowers without getting fired or quitting at a time they are very much needed. Also if there is a LOT of clammer about this on the internet you can be sure President Trump is hearing it.
We need more Brietbarts and O’Keefes.
Case in point of one of the red light, main problems with the medical profession. Reviews. Note they NEVER tell you not to go to so and so or to this hospital or that. They just give vague “I like that place” statements.
Seriously, when the whiny one was in college, he had to come home for a hernia repair. A pretty serious one. The family internist sent him to a Dr. F who fixed it fairly quickly and sent him back to school. (The repair is still good over 20 years later.) A bit later in the school year, a friend of his at school had the same issue, and just by-passed the crap and saw Dr. F. His girlfriend, who’s dad was a physician, had a cow. No, you need to talk to my dad! Her sad very calmly said, Dr. F is fine.
That’s as much of an endorsement as you’re going to get out of physicians.
“A friend was a nurse. A patient died because the doctor left gauze called a sponge in the incision. She KNEW he had, called him on it at the time and was shutdown. After the patient died she went to the hospital board about it AND THEY FIRED HER!”
_________________
Did she sue the Doctor personally and the hospital for wrongful termination, with damages, for a bazillion dollars?
Does the doctor OR the Hospital thing a jury is going to be sympathetic toward the arrogant doctor who killed a patient and then fired the only person who spoke up on behalf of the dead — the dead person who could just as easily have been any member of the jury?
The question is was she working in a “right to work” state?
If so, she could be fired without cause.
“The question is was she working in a “right to work” state?
If so, she could be fired without cause.”
______________
If she is fired for doing what is right, for doing her job and doing it well, there has to be legal recourse.
If your boss kills someone through negligence, and you go to his boss in order to prevent him from killing anyone else, and his boss fires you, then I can only IMAGINE the liability your boss’s boss just exposed himself and the company to.
Right to work, or not.
At some *&^%ing point in this world, doing what’s RIGHT has to outweigh all the carefully crafted bullshit CYA rules which the corrupt have established to protect themselves.
But it seems like most people just go along with it. I understand why, but that doesn’t make it right.
When I was growing up, it seems like there were a whole lot more people who did what was right, that doing what was right actually counted for something, as opposed to playing the system and covering your ass.
If everybody plays the system and covers their ass, where does that eventually lead?
Take a look around.
Scott,
It’s hard to argue against a doctor or doctors in front of a jury.
-Juries are selected at random. They are full of people who have been taught from birth to respect doctors without question, and to regard them all as geniuses.
-Many of the jurors are not geniuses themselves. They’ve never thought it through that someone can be a genius in making one decision, then blow the next decision. Smart people realize this intuitively, since they can introspect, and recall times that they themselves have made dumb mistakes.
-Many people don’t like to think about doctors making mistakes. It’s too painful. “These lawyers are saying this doctor made a medical mistake. But that can’t be, can it? What if one day I’m lying on a gurney, depending on a doctor’s knowledge, and that doctor makes a mistake while treating me? I could lose a leg, or lose my eyesight, or even my life. And that’s too painful to think about. So I won’t think about it.” And many people take the Kantian position that, if they don’t think about something, it effectively doesn’t exist. I’m not saying everyone is like this, just enough that any jury of 6 or 12 is likely to contain a recalcitrant one or more.
-Look at the destruction of the general aviation industry in the mid- to late-20th century. That happened because many of the amateur pilots who could afford to buy private planes back then were doctors, and some of them died in crashes that happened because of stupid, or not so stupid, mistakes they made in the air. Now imagine a juror in a civil trial of a doctor’s family suing a plane manufacturer for selling a faulty product. “This company and its lawyers are accusing a DOCTOR, for God’s sake, of making a mistake. And that can’t be true, can it? Doctors are too smart to do something dumb like that. So these guys must have cut corners to save money when building the plane, and now they’re lying to save their own butts.”
My 2¢.
Her lawyer would have to be able to prove why she was fired and the defendant(s) were lying if they said she was fired for whatever other reason they chose.
Very difficult, esp. in a case like this.
“Her lawyer would have to be able to prove why she was fired and the defendant(s) were lying if they said she was fired for whatever other reason they chose.
Very difficult, esp. in a case like this.”
_________________
Doctor has deep pockets and so does his malpractice insurance company.
Hospital has even deeper pockets.
Attorneys love targets with deep pockets.
Chances are this nurse isn’t the only nurse who has been fired for essentially being a ‘whistle-blower’ on dangerous doctors who may routinely put patients’ lives at risk. And if so, chances are about 100% that the other nurses know exactly who has been fired for bringing dangerous practices to the attention of the board.
Find out who they are, make them part of a class-action suit, get their testimony on record, and then subpoena the entire board to get their testimony under oath. Blow the whole putrid thing up.
Assuming the nurse has an exemplary work record, she reports to the board that her boss killed a patient, and she’s fired. Straight line progression that any jury could see.
Why is it that nobody wants to even TRY?!?
Why does everyone come up with ten different reasons to QUIT before ever getting started?
I don’t mean in this specifically, but it seems like in EVERYTHING.
Why is “can’t” the number one word for so many people in a particular age group?
What the hell HAPPENED to people?
The relentless CAN’T DO attitude is a spirit-crushing example for the younger generations to follow.
Doctors and in some states, Nurse Practitioners, sign the death certificates and cause of death, NOT Nurses.
Doctors and in some states, Nurse Practitioners, sign the death certificates and cause of death, NOT Nurses.
Most people aren’t aware that this is how tobacco death statistics are calculated. If you have ever smoked a single cigarette in your life, they will claim your death as “smoking related” whether it had anything to do with tobacco use or not. Smoked a cigarette when you were a teen, and then die from a heart attack at 100 years-old? Officially, you died from smoking. The death statistics have been juked for decades.
They did the same with asbestos. Smoking PLUS asbestos = health problems. If you don’t smoke and the lung can clear itself of particles, then no problem.
Killing asbestos made a LOT OF MONEY for certain companies (Think condemned schools) AND CAUSED a lot of problems for others.
Semi-truck brakes catching on fire, no really good fire proof material for lab hoods….
Gail, an attorney friend and his son and daughter, also attorneys , Became very, very wealthy becoming asbestos “experts” in the early days and suing the heck out of every one they could…then consulting with others across the country to do the same. They were in Philadelphia and you know how much asbestos was there!
Still social friends through it but the vulture attitude was a huge turnoff for us.
Karma often has a way of leveling the field, though…all three had subsequent, serious issues.
Or no asbestos to delay the steel girders of the upper floors of the World Trade Center towers from losing strength from the heat of a fire. (The buildings were being constructed when the ban went into effect. So the lower floors’ girders were protected with asbestos, as designed. But the upper floors were only protected with an inferior substitute.)
This had ramifications on 9/11/2001.
& that space shuttle, Columbia iirc, that exploded/broke apart on re-entry because of faulty (PC) heat shielding in the tiles…
Or, the case anesthesiologists …unless it’s changed ( and it should!)…any death following surgery is automatically deemed an anesthesiology death…even if the patient bleeds out on the table, has a heart attack, etc. etc.
that’s why their malpractice insurance for that specialty is astronomical. Could have changed by now because grossly unfair and I hope saner heads have stepped in.
Similar situation with pediatric physicians being accountable (meaning can be sued) up to 18 years for medication/treatment for children patients. So, if an approved shot was given at 6 months and 15 years later it was declared unsafe, parents could sue that doctor for malpractice.
With no doubt in my mind…the medical malpractice lawyers are salivating at this Coronavirus opportunity.
Did you know that small cell cancer is automatically called small cell lung cancer? Small cell can start in several places…pancreas, lung, prostrate, etc. My lungs are clear, I have cancer in my brain, liver, femur, and the neck lymph. They are calling it small cell lung cancer. Do they call it that if I do or do not smoke?
What organization and group of controllers are making hay and money off the lung cancer statistics? (Rhetorical sarc here.)
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/
“Shoot them dead”: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte orders police and military to kill citizens who defy coronavirus lockdown
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Replying to
@DrKarlynB
My daughter lives in Bulgaria. They can only be outdoors for going to the grocery or pharmacy. No more than two people in the family and must go straight there and back or risk one year in jail. A few days ago they could walk their dogs or take kids out for exercise but no more.
The headline is clickbait and misleading. My wife is a Filipina and we listened to this yesterday. They are having problems in the north…Manila, with people causing trouble, not just disobeying the curfew. The left is whipping up the youth organizations to disobey and cause problems. In the south, the Abu Sayef muzzie trash is stealing relief supplies and keeping them for themselves or destroying them. Those are the ones he is saying needs to be shot. I agree. The media, as usual, ran with a soundbite that is completely out of context.
TMI follows.
Agree CM in TN above.
Philippines, population around 109 million. They canNOT afford to have ChiCom-19 run wild. Herd mentality I suppose some have called it. Folks are really poor. Medical crappy unless one is in the elite wealthy class. Worldometers reports ~3,100 positive ChiCom-19. Me thinks Philippine authorities really don’t know. Doubt they have sufficient accurate tests. CT scans are unheard of outside of the biggest cities, and folks need to bring cash.
Problems Duterte are addressing won’t be found in most of the Philippines.
Wife’s family ~200 miles NNW Manila. Infanta, Pangasinan. Fisherman are primary bread winners in this area.
Serious lock down. Can’t travel from city to city. Nor Barangay to Barangay. Officials, local anyway have a system for folks to get essentials at market (fish, poultry, meat, vegtables and fruit), every other day. All other businesses shut down. Strict hours.
As a helping hand, Barangay Captain distributed two kilos pork (~5 lbs) and ten kilo rice (~23 lbs) to every resident. Mayor gave away a couple chicks to every resident. Either Pangasinan Provincial (think State) government or National level, each household will receive either 5,000 pesos or 8,000 pesos ($100 / $160). A serious helping hand and, hey, it garners votes at election time 😉
Have met the local Barangay Captain and Mayor. Decent folk as best I can tell. Very popular. Also knew current Mayor’s father. He was also their Mayor, assassinated while in office about six years ago.
Navigating ChiCom-19 is, IMO incredibly difficult for the Philippines.
My in-laws in Cebu still haven’t got their relief food yet. The Fed gov. released the funds, but local gov’t is slow to get the supplies out. Wife says the DSWD would be a better way to distribute the aid than the LGU’s. To many local gov’ts on the take.
Their Barangay Captain is a do-nothing. Not very popular.
Yea, hopefully Philippine Gov assistance will be distributed as suggested. They are quite keen of receiving their 5,000 or 8,000 pesos.
My understanding, in my post above, the assistance literally came from the Barangay Captain and Mayor. Barangay dude slaughtered some pigs from his piggery. Mayor has a very large, I guess it would be a chicken ranch of sorts.
And, it is the Philippines, so some amount of crooked behavior is expected. Unfortunately common to all politicians, every where.
Not picking on you Molly, just calling out the media.
It’s true.
😁
Such a funny movie
It’s twoo! It’s twoo!
Could just as well have been Heidi Klum and Seal…
They really do think most people are jackass stupid.
And you know what?
They’re right.
Unfortunately…yes.
…Or got caught and taken to wet market 3 miles from the other lab in town, the level 2 bioweapons lab of the Wuhan University of Technology, which the recently-arrested Harvard professor was working with. At which point, the bats bit members of the rare, endangered pangolin species, which were their fellow food animals on sale in the wet market. Then these infected pangolins were purchased by shoppers in the market, taken home, cooked, and eaten, transferring the virus to humans.
See the logic?
Global plannedemic, my foot! It’s obviously a global pangolindemic!
https://twitter.com/Gingrich_of_PA/status/1246185962138415104
If they’re not following the recommendations of Didier and Zelenko, they’re SCREWED.
Yes, one would think so…
But only if something ever actually HAPPENS to the black hats, to hold them accountable.
So far, nothing ever happens, and they learn from this, and push the envelope even further.
They’re out past Orion’s Belt at this point, and there’s no sign of trouble, all systems are still ‘go’, so they’re still going.
Are you max-stocked on your cocktail? The tonic water is disappearing from grocery shelves here.
I guess I need to buy some when I go for eggs.
I have enough to get by until there is some clarity on whether “recoverees” can or should be treated. By cutting my dose of quinine and zinc I am half-way back to mouth-breathing today. Slept pretty good, but nose-breathing was about at its limits.
I’m thinking about flushing my system today (full mouth breather) and then moving back up to a new regimen of 31 mg zinc (plus too much Ca and Mg, sadly) and 1/4 tab of quinine, meaning 1 pint of tonic water. I may try to find straight zinc tabs today, but probably a futile effort. I think the kidney effects are probably due to too much Ca and Mg, but I can’t be sure it’s not the Zn or quinine.
I’m kind of giving up on a curative thing here, and hoping just to get some understanding of my condition. It’s hard to sort out the effects of hypoxia from drug side effects. I’m hoping to find a happy optimum.
Made in USA Zinc on Amazon:
I didn’t realize you were that sick!
Why not see the Doc, take the newer/simpler test, and if positive for China is asshoe virus, take the hydroxychloriquine/antibiotic combo?
It’s very unlikely that I will test positive for active virus. If I don’t have a fever and “active infection” symptoms, I won’t get that test anyway.
First step is getting antibody tested. I don’t think that is out yet.
No matter what, I’m probably going to try to get some kind of testing.
Prayers for u Wolfie.
Thanks, Jane, and back atcha!!! <3
Lovesya Wolfie.
Hi Wolf!
Question for you. Is your research in the quinine-zinc protocol also telling you that quercetin is also a zinc ionophore? I found this paper about that:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25050823
Then I found this:
“We further tested quercetin, an antioxidant flavanoid, against CQ-induced hepatoxicity and found encouraging results as quercetin was able to drastically reduce the oxidative stress and hepatotoxicity resulting at higher dosages of CQ administration. In conclusion, our study strongly suggests co administration of antioxidant flavonoid like quercetin along with CQ for antimalarial therapy. This is particularly important when CQ is administered as long-term prophylactic treatment for malaria as chronic exposure has shown to be resulting in higher dose level of drug in the body.”
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/mrt/2013/141734/
Apparently quercetin is protective against toxicity when taking chloroquine for malaria.
There are food sources of quercetin that might be helpful in buffering the effects of the quinine, including apples, onions, berries, pau d’arco and green and black teas:
https://www.verywellhealth.com/the-benefits-of-quercetin-89071
I hope this is helpful for you and others. If we are taking the quinine/zinc, we can help our bodies tolerate it better if we change our diets a bit.
Oh, excellent! Thanks for this!
NOTE TO THE FOURTH WALL:
First of all, note that CQ is not the same compound in the two papers – it’s clioquinol in the first one, and chloroquine in the second – BUT both of these substances are antiviral quinoline derivatives, and both of them are zinc ionophores used in the treatment of microbial diseases.
The first paper proves that QCT (quercetin – a different type of compound) is ALSO a zinc ionophore, and the second paper proves that it helps protect the liver from damage BY chloroquine.
This is good. It implies that I can definitely use polyphenols like QCT as booster zinc ionophores AND possibly as protectants against the hepatic (or other) effects of quinine.
Great stuff! I will up my levels of these antioxidants, and keep the vitamin C high, too, just for antioxidant suspicious cat reasons.
Yes, the first paper is about quercetin and its interaction with zinc. The fact that it is a buffer for the quinine is the important part, as you note. I wanted you to know that you can use things like tea and berries to mitigate the effects of the quinine, because they contain quercetin.
One of the highest natural sources of quercetin is a bark called pau d’arco. It can be made into a tea, extract, or a tincture. You can probably get it at your local health food store. I just had some pau d’arco tea myself for good measure.
Excellent. What level of quinine is it up against? Or are you holding off on that?
I am using 8 oz. twice a day. That’s a pint. I think you said 1/4 a tablet of quinine, correct? I am not having quinine issues. I used to love gin and tonic, and had WAY more than a pint of tonic occasionally!
Good – that’s going to be my goal, too. I’m going to go back on it tonight, starting with a cup.
Gotta get back on the horse that threw me! 😉
If you can get the straight zinc, maybe that will help. Also, the quercetin might be helpful. My friend who had this when I did, and is still suffering like you are, actually had quercetin tablets to take when we talked about trying this regimen. She also uses tonic water regularly for leg cramps. This may have actually saved her life when she had it; she is 68 years old. The only thing she wasn’t taking at the time was the zinc, but maybe her regular multi-vitamin had just enough to protect her.
Yup. That was me. Multivitamin and vitamin C. The women’s multivitamins tend to be better on zinc and iron b/c of osteoporosis and anemia support. Turned out I was only getting 11 mg in a generic senior multivitamin – my wife was getting 15 mg in hers. That also explains my body shock jumping to around 50 mg.
Logic says you almost certainly had it already then, based on the web of evidence through your friend’s case, my case, and Sylvia, who tested positive. If you and your friend shared the same bug, then you had it, IMO.
Notice how much zinc Zelenko is giving people! 220 mg / day for 5 days. That is shocker levels, BUT it’s not toxic – just uncomfortable. Yeah, and it can save one’s bacon!!!
That guy was NOT messing around!
Seeing some reports of older patients with compromised lung history struggling to clear this. Start to feel better and then struggling. Zith + zinc was a game changer for one aged 70 fellow. Was already a regular green tea drinker. They are now trying quercetin 500mg morning and night. Reported noticeable improvements from that.
My personal experience today… 2 months from onset is sensation of SOB on exertion which quickly resolves by sitting down. PulseOx doesn’t register fast enough when it happens, but I do know my heart rate went up after 5 minutes of just basic activity outside. Not sure if it’s some other environmental factor (new 5G in area) or lingering effects of infection.
Yes, there are certain irregularities of the effects that just don’t make sense.
P.S. I am sure I get quite a bit of quercetin in my daily diet. Breakfast smoothie for me is two cups leafy greens, a cup of berries, and some apple, all of which have it. And that’s just breakfast!
I’m still doing a lot of ginger tea, which I find very helpful for my breathing. Hope that has some antioxidants or ionophores, too. It definitely keeps the hydration going.
Ginger contains quercetin, so yes to the ionophores. And it is really good for lungs, breathing, coughing, etc. So keep it up! We are winning!
Many years ago i was very sick and could not tolerate any anti-microbial drugs or herbs due to bad reactions. I found a blend of Amazon-based plant powders, including pau d’arco, that I could boil into a decoction to drink. It was the only thing that “worked” at that time.
No Fed takeover, make them own their lefty sh!thole mess. Illinois out of control and bankrupt because of their public sector unions. Michigan in a crunch because of their 3rd world enclaves and backwards customs. Make them own it!
Use their national guard to close their state borders and section off the state in quarantine. Im curious to know if its a general brush off or particularly ignorant areas/groups of people.
Won’t happen.
President Trump is doing a great job keeping Feds in the Fed lane. And, making States and local governments manage their territory.
Chi-Com-19 is highlighting the gross incompetence of D-Rat guvs and mayors. Even Jared highlighted some of their incompetence a couple days ago at the 5 PM presser. IMO, that is why the pressitutes went after Jared yesterday.
Lessons to be learned, IF, voters are paying attention.
Judging by the current local news talking points, I think I figured out why they’re pushing face masks so hard. tl;dr: Orange man bad.
1) Get Democrat politicians, media, and corrupt CDC to push the face mask narrative.
2) Force President Trump to go on record and say he’s not going to wear a face mask.
3) Write nasty headlines about President Trump “ignoring CDC guidelines” because he’s either “stupid” or a “dictator.”
I recommend we Alinsky them on this tactic. Start asking these Democratic politicians, Twitter checkmarks, and “journalists” why they aren’t wearing face masks. Refuse to wear one until they do.
It’s so ironic that you’re very concerned about this particular facet of the situation…yet your avatar is wearing a mask.
(OK, it’s not the “right” kind of mask, but still…)
I’m not against masks. I’m against the government ordering me to wear one.
Masks in this ChiCom-19 as I see it…
Uh, it’s a half hearted suggestion to wear a mask, at best.
Initially.
Feds, knowing there are not enough masks for health care workers AND citizens. So they justify not wearing a mask.
– Something like ChiCom-19 particles are too small to be filtered out by N95.
– Folks don’t know how to wear them… (AND, folks couldn’t possibly watch PSA announcements on TV, social edia, YT… sarc)
– Pure. Utter. BS. IMHO. But I DO understand why they say don’t wear masks. Or said it, until quite recently…
Then there are calls for folks to make masks and donate to health care providers. Good with it. Something IS better than nothing.
So, IMO, it begs the question, why not regular folks wear home made masks. They are better than nothing.
Hence, we now have a “suggestion” to wear home made masks. Some areas require it I suppose.
.
.
BTW, I am not blaming the Feds decisions. Simply highlighting reality as I see it.
It moved past “half-hearted suggestion” when governors and mayors began ordering their constituents to wear masks in public.
Yes, There are those areas that require something. Wonder if those areas care what type of mask, and IF a bandanna counts. Or are those areas making masks available for purchase. (Not really asking. More like shaking my head.)
If that bit of government brilliance arrives northern NV, I’ll then wear a mask the rare time I am at the grocery. Donated most of my mask stock to local hospital. Kept a few for the day I either need or must wear.
But, wearing a mask on walks in proximity of no one, or ATV in desert, NOT going to happen. Dumber than F’n dirt.
Amen. Stupid leftists are stupid leftists.
DH played golf today…not one mask in large group. Later went to Aldi’s…no masks.
Everyone is wiping down surfaces and maintaining The Distance, but so far not buying into the masks thing.
Me too. Thats my take.
I wear a mask because I am considered of other people not because government tells m too.
I refuse to war cloth mask because it reminds m of muslim face cover.
I aw something on You Tube a person made face mask from HEPA vacuum filter. I would wear that because it does not look like muslim face cover.
People are very creative. We bought 20 N95 masks and my husband had some I wear those.
I am actually a rebel at heart but curb it if i affects others.
Good idea with the HEPA filter. I was just going to mention that. (Now watch, no one will be able to get vac bags for the next couple of months…).
There are many, MANY high-efficiency (and, sad to say, high-cost) respirators/breathing masks out there. Painters use them, body-shop folks use them, gardening folks who spray pesticides, etc., (should) use them, and a whole host of other people/tasks that need them. As far as face shields go, anyone who normally uses a grinder or any (power) tool that could spit out a chunk of wood or metal should already have one. If not, the various hardware stores out there should have them.
Another, albeit odd, source of fine-particulate filter(s) would be the particulate-trap filters you can mount on laser printer exhaust vents to catch the toner particles before they can cause harm…. Office Depot, Staples, Amazoon, etc., probably have them…
If you wanted to look like someone out of a 1950s sci-fi movie, you could use a welder’s mask, as well, but with a clear or low-density filter in it…
Chiefio has a few items/articles on “rolling your own” (or maybe, sewing your own).
(And, yep, you wouldn’t want to be over here now with Merde-Kuh & co. …)…
My question is ..why now? Why the insistence now? They’re sanctioning bandanas and homemade masks. They could’ve commanded this before.
Why are other countries similarly getting heavy handed? Does this thing mutate into some zombie apocalypse that they’re not saying?
They’re getting unmasked, so they’re saying we should be masked.
All I can think of is the dehumanizing aspect of it. The idea behind this, apparently, is for people to keep their germs to themselves. If that’s the rationale, we’ll never quit wearing them.
It’s dehumanizing. From an emotional stand point, forming a bond will be interrupted. Think of parents bonding with newborns, couples bonding with facial expressions, etc. That would be removed from social discourse.
I hate to go there with this, but that’s my gut feeling.
I agree. Same with “SOCIAL” distancing. The correct term should be PHYSICAL distancing.
You are so correct about this. The left specializes in turning individuals into units. Wearing masks helps this happen.
I think it’s because public perception is starting to turn against them now. Lots of counter info coming out against their narrative. They are scrambling trying to stay relevant and retain some degree of credibility. They are panicking at the loss of control over the sheeple.
BINGO!
I agree with this. They are desperate to ramp up more panic as the narrative starts to shift away from them. I now am required to wear a surgical mask….pointless…for all visits. But only 1 mask per day to be reused. Stupid🙄🙃
The call for masks has come from set of persons who saw the hypocrisy coming out of the WHO and CDC. They had no voice and it took time for it surface. Notice the press only started to talk about it only two days ago as the ground swell surfaced and the President mentioned they’d be looking into it. Now the left is going to try to jump on this pony and try to make it look like they were riding it long ago when in fact they’ve been mum on this from the beginning.
Meanwhile you do have some liberal states that are glamming on to this because they realize the plandemic is going to sweep them away too. Or at least that’s my take.
mollypitcher5 go with your instincts you know the answer 🙂
Top headline on the NYT right now is a nasty headline about the President not wearing a mask. They’re pushing this point hard.
Trump should wear the mask. Then the libs won’t. 😁
Actually its quite likely he won’t just for that reason.
HA!
Seriously – wearing a mask while standing 10 or 20 feet away from other people is pretty ridiculous. People aren’t listening to Birx.
My husband reported to me that young people with body art ( no age specific) do not abide to distance or anything else. His opinion is if the china virus his by us it will hit them badly.
They want pics of him with a mask for future dim commercials perhaps!!!
Well, let’s see if Pelosi, Schumer, the lovely Maxine, Adam Schiff, , Obama, , Brennen….are wearing their masks. And so far I haven’t seen any Hollywood ..experts on every subject.. wear any.
They want to make us all like antifa or perhaps make us all like muslim women covering our faces.
Don’t know what happened with the nearly identical posts. I may be “ loosing it” hers. Sorry.
Oh yea. I’m loosing it….the posts aren’t identical. Sorry again – and embarrassed.
They want us dehumanized, alienated, and psychologically traumatized. MSM is already talking about social distancing being a permanent thing, and they’ll probably try that with the face masks, too. Anything to keep us as alienated from each other as possible.
Yep. Crowd, mob control. A new twist for a new Time Machine type novel.
Well doesn’t he look all smug in his pontificating. Almost rubbing his hands in glee at the thought that he who controls the vaccine controls the world. Evil doer.
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1246263737436254210?s=21
Adam Schiff was in on this vaccination social manipulation plot. Remember he chased InfoWars and Natural News off social media over “vaccine misinformation”?
These are the same people who lied about antiviral drugs – WHOOPS – I mean antimalarials.
He was in on it. Same with Gates. These people were in a plot with the CCP.
It’s incredible. These people are horrifying.
Seriously when the truth comes out about this we’re going to be blown away. Maybe it’s better that it doesn’t.
If the truth ever comes out, it will be 3 years late and 6 trillion dollar short.
And they better not even think of not exposing the truth.
The only reason we’re going along with this ‘Trust the Plan(ners)’ stuff is because we’re counting on them to expose everything.
If they’re not going to, then we’re back to plan ‘A’.
I think about that weasel Peter Strzok testifying before Congress, and his rank arrogance. . . doing a little dance for the cameras and looking pure evil. All the while he acted like he was going to get away with all this crap and there was nothing anyone was going to be able to do to touch him. Like, I know something you don’t know.
Yes, and so far he has been allowed to get away with it, by the Department of Just-Us.
And that kind of thing doesn’t just eat at the edges of peoples’ confidence in the rule of Law, it pours gas all over it and throws it in a lake of fire.
If one follows and buys into George Webb, the Strzok family is into gun running. They’re BIG TIME CIA people.
I have a suspicion in the end a whole lot of people at that level are going to turn state’s witness to save their own skins.
If anyone ever prosecutes them. Why would they become witnesses for the DOJ, if the DOJ never prosecutes?
Sessions didn’t prosecute, and now Trump won’t even endorse Sessions for his Senate campaign. Actually told Sessions to cease and desist claiming that Trump supported him.
AG Barr is apparently motivated to strike like lightning at people who hoard masks. Barr should become the new Mask & Glove Czar, so DJT could put someone who actually cares about enforcing the LAW in the Attorney General position.
“If they’re not going to, then we’re back to plan ‘A’.”
….which is no plan, so in the big picture scott, to paraphrase a devil’s minion…
WTF difference does it make if we are rooting and hoping for something to be done when the alternative is out of our control and nothing happens?
Plan ‘A’ is the Founder’s Plan.
The plan that was rejected by those who thought time was on their side, and who thought the American People were too delicate to tolerate a military solution. Every minute that goes by is another minute the Cabal has to plan the murder of millions of innocent people and even entire nations.
Justice delayed is justice denied. It’s not just a quaint expression, it’s a maxim of the Law.
………………………
“Justice delayed is justice denied” is a legal maxim meaning that if legal redress is available for a party that has suffered some injury, but is not forthcoming in a timely fashion, it is effectively the same as having no redress at all.
This principle is the basis for the right to a speedy trial and similar rights which are meant to expedite the legal system, because it is unfair for the injured party to have to sustain the injury with little hope for resolution.
The phrase has become a rallying cry for legal reformers who view courts or governments as acting too slowly in resolving legal issues either because the existing system is too complex or overburdened, or because the issue or party in question lacks political favour. — Wiki
Maxim [mak-sim]
noun
1. An established principle or proposition
2. A principle of law universally admitted, as being a correct statement of the law
………………………
The Founder’s Plan, Plan ‘A’:
Noah Webster said, “The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”
.
“And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. … The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson
.
Writing in the Federalist Paper No.46, James Madison said, “The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation … (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”
.
In Federalist Paper No. 28, Alexander Hamilton said, “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all forms of positive government.”
.
Richard Henry Lee said, “To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
.
Joseph Story (Supreme Court Justice) said: “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a Republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers…” – excerpt from ‘Commentaries on the Constitution’ (1833).
.
“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, OR THEIR REVOLUTIONARY RIGHT TO DISMEMBER OR OVERTHROW IT.” — Abraham Lincoln, inaugural address, March 4, 1861
.
Declaration of Independence (excerpt):
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to alter or to ABOLISH it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
.
Plan ‘A’ is messy, but sure and certain. Expose the criminals worldwide — names, faces, current addresses — put bounties on their heads, and turn us loose. Special forces / military goes after the most dangerous and/or entrenched in bunkers, We the People take care of the rest. It’s all over in a few weeks.
I know many people of a certain age group can’t bring themselves to believe that ANY action would ever accomplish anything. Their ‘plan A’ is ‘cold anger’. I have seen the achievements of ‘cold anger’, and found them lacking.
Any kind of ‘cold anger’ that consumes a lifetime with nothing to show for it is manifestly just an excuse to do nothing until you’re too old to do anything. But at least they had a lifetime of muh cold anger to look back on with fondness and tell their enslaved grandchildren about.
Action.
When no one will take action, the lack of action becomes the most important thing, because everything else is meaningless bullshit, without action.
Bravo! In essence, MLK had it right, a man who stands for nothing will FALL for anything. Or as said so eloquently in National Treasure. It means that people that have the ABILITY to act have the RESPONSIBILTY to act.
There are VERY good reasons for the 2nd Amendment, the founders KNEW. Hell even Yamamoto knew in WW2. “We cannot invade the United States, there will be a weapon behind every blade of grass”
I guess the question each generation must face in time of War, unrest, and crisis. What are WE prepared to do about it?
Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. I HOPE it does not come to ANY of this. I hope Trump comes to his senses, does what is right, reopens the country, and then PUBLICLY punishes those that misrepresented this and did SO much damage.
It needs to be stopped as quickly as possible, or it risks EITHER becoming the new norm, people capitulate, give up, and America is DEAD, socialism WINS and is HERE to stay. OR there is MASSIVE unrest and pushback, MANY more millions are hurt, killed, and property is DESTROYED.
the ONLY acceptable answer, and it IS a risk, is to reopen the country, and TRY to restore it to as much as normal as quickly as possible. There is MUCH more at stake here than the reelection of Trump. The battle for the soul and SOULS of the country has began. I HOPE that Trump IS the man he said he was when he said “This country will NEVER be a Socialist country”
Time to PUT up or SHUT up Mr. President, Socialism is being practiced here DAILY, hour by hour by these nanny state “guidelines” Time to STOP IT. We are Americans, we have RIGHTS, and they are being SMASHED in the name of “public health, safety, doing the “right” thing, a National emergency, or doing civic and patriotic duty to “protect” the most vulnerable.
We as Americans have ALWAYS had choice…FREE choice, and that INCLUDED taking risk. We do not NEED and we do not WANT someone ELSE to tell yus what is best for US or anyone else. That is OUR damn choice.
If we risk it, get sick, and die, it is OUR choice to do so. My mom and Dad are passed, I am a GROWN man, I do not need someone to “guideline” me and tell me how to keep myself, my family, and others “safe” or free from illness.
The TRUTH is that NO AMOUNT of “social distancing” restrictions” guidelines, or sequester can STOP this. It can ONLY slow it down at BEST. More likely, this virus will do what viruses ALL do, spike and burn out.
This is not a war with a known enemy. We cannot SEE it, we cannot reason with it, we cannot hear it, we can ONLY try to not get sick, if we DO get sick, take measures to NOT make anyone else sick, and then seek treatment.
Just as we the Human species have ALWAYS done for over 5000 years as a civilized society…until NOW.
#time to end the shutdown.
The Founding Fathers would have NEVER done this, they had just experienced forced tyranny, they would want NO part of this thing.
This is NOT taxation without representation, this is QUARANTINE without representation.
Want to PROVE it? Hold a VOTE I bet there will be MANY more MILLIONS that want to end this than want to be FORCED into isolation. People cannot even go to an OUTDOOR park. What the FUCK is that. Sunlight is PROVEN to kill this and nearly ALL viruses INSTANTLY. OUTSIDE…not on a bus or a subway, OUTSIDE in the FRESH air. This is NOT airborne. This is CONTACT, DIRECT CONTACT spread.
Can NO ONE, especially YOU Mr. President, see the FARCE in that. If ONE thing in this is FAKE or a farce, there ARE more, and that means that it FALLS APART.
It is a damn good thing my father is passed, he would be cleaning his guns as we speak.
SMDH, what has happened to OUR country. We are NOT France, we do not SURRENDER, we do NOT cower, we go big, we go BOLD, we use common sense, we PUSHBACK, and if necessary we FIGHT back..and we fight to WIN. God help us all.
Let it all come out. lay it bare. We need a good flushing of the Agean Stables.
Megalomaniacs – money and control
Bill Gates and his vaccine with an ID chip…
▶️ DECEMBER 23, 2019 21st Century Wire
Bill Gates, MIT Develop New ‘Tattoo ID’ to Check For Vaccinations
“To make sure that you’ve had all of your required doses of government mandated vaccines, scientists at MIT have created a new ink which can be embedded in the skin which can be read using a special infra-red smart phone camera app.”
▶️ MARCH 18, 2020 FORBES
Bill Gates Calls For National Tracking System For Coronavirus During Reddit AMA
Funny that…
….
The WHIP to make people accept the vaccine & ‘Mark of the Beast’ is NO GATHERINGS= NO SCHOOL, NO DAYCARE, NO WORK UNTIL YOU ARE CHIPPED!
THIS makes it EASY for ANYONE to enforce:
“scientists at MIT have created a new ink which can be embedded in the skin which can be read using a special infra-red smart phone camera app.”
Watch the Autists create bogus ids to muck-up the works…
Sounds Beastly………..
Thanks, Gail. We all need to push this article out to the public. It is understandable layman’s terms, and very alarming.
Bill Gates finds virus creations, then funds vaccines, then forces us to get vaccinated, then tracks us everywhere. #EvilIncarnate
Boll Gates is a lunatic and when we realize it his steam is not going to work.
He wants to turn us into cattle. He would have a chip in him so we all can stay away from him.
By the way chips wander through the body.
My dogs and cats are chipped and one of my past dogs the chip wandered through his body.
Agreed, they move. I accidentally got pencil lead embedded under my skin in my leg as a child, and doc said “leave it. It will move towards heart but not fast enough to kill you.” Sure enough, it’s migrated a few inches up my thigh!
That’s the Fauci angle.
My prayer is that he is the first big name to fall…the one Q says will wake everyone up.
QUOTE:
“To make sure that you’ve had all of your required doses of government mandated vaccines, scientists at MIT have created a new ink which can be embedded in the skin which can be read using a special infra-red smart phone camera app.”
————————
Uh, Bill Gates can go f@ck himself.
Project Veritas
Cuomo positioning for stimulus money?
Not as serious as being reported?
Misinfo and fake news?
Hospitals intentionally miscoding and reporting to CDC?
HCQ clinical trial only, spinning Trump as wrong?
No centralized control on testing efforts for commonality?
People told to go to ER for test but no testing available at ER?
Cuomo positioning for stimulus money?
Not as serious as being reported?
Misinfo and fake news?
Hospitals intentionally miscoding and reporting to CDC?
Every single instance a felony crime against America, diverting (and hoarding) precious resources during a national crisis.
It’s going to be another day before I have the article up about my “zinc and quinine” explorations, but until then, I want to throw up a cautionary note that people need to be careful not to take too much quinine or too much zinc. What is “too much” varies. Start off SMALL if you try this.
My wife has told me about her having to take zinc once, and not liking the stomach effects. She refuses to take it now. I may have gotten a bit of that myself. I got a slightly sour stomach and a lot of belching I didn’t expect! It may be the calcium or magnesium in the supplement, but still annoying. Just FYI.
Quinine can also cause effects like ringing in the ears when you take too much too long, which I’ve always noted when I drank it for pleasure, but it also has some more significant side effects that need to be watched out for.
Take great care if you follow my lead on this. Always start out with a FRACTIONAL dose on any new drug, supplement, vitamin or mineral. Even if OTC. Even if tonic water. Better safe than sorry.
Did you know that 2 quarts of tonic water have the quinine of an actual antimalarial PILL? Yes! Fun fact.
Read the “labeling” here:
https://www.healthline.com/health/quinine-in-tonic-water
Here is information about zinc:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/zinc-supplements
I may cut back to 30 mg / day zinc and 0.5 L / day tonic water. I think the combination may be quite powerful.
More later.
I’ve taken a daily zinc supplement for years. I’ve learned to take it after a meal to avoid stomach discomfort (mild nausea in my case).
Ah, that’s a good idea. I may need better timing!
I second Sadie’s findings. I bury the zinc towards the end of a meal.
ALSO DO NOT TAKE ZINC WITHIN 1/2 HOUR OF TAKING VITAMIN C!!!!
(ZiCam recommendation)
Selinium on the other hand you take on an empty stomach and do not eat for at least 10 minutes. (I take it as soon as I get up.)
did not know about not taking zinc with vit C. I’ve been taking mine together for months now with my breakfast. Will start taking it at dinner now instead.
Gail, could you elaborate on not taking C at the same time as zinc? Is wicked heartburn and acid reflux aside effect?
I think it is more that the C and zinc de-activate each other. I have never researched it since it is easy enough to separate the two by a 1/2 hour.
If ascorbic acid is a Zn chelator but not a cellular Zn ionophore, that would explain deactivation.
What’s really strange is that over here, they have a combo tablet, with Vitamin C, Zink, and Selenium…
Maybe they can sell more of them that way….
The problem over here is that they rarely, if ever, have OTC pills with just one med (e.g. Iodine). There’s always a panoply of other vitamins/minerals/etc. clogging up the mix. So if you take two different combos, you end up with an excess amount of something you didn’t even want in the first place. What worries me the most is electrolyte balance (Ca, Mg, K, Na). Can lead to arrythmia or other problems…
Definitely take the zinc with food in the tummy.
I get canker sores and tongue lesions if I take more than 500mg of Vit C a day, but I am sensitive to all acidic foods.
Read the zinc instructions – usually medicinal doses are for 5-7 days, not for longer. So right now I take 1 lozenge after dinner. Will ramp up if I feel any Covid symptoms.
Appreciate ALL who contribute to these discussions. I need to refresh myself on what Quercetin adds to the mix.
Looking forward to your article, Wolfie. #WeAreAllMacGyverNow
Thanks for posting, will be following along.
I’ve been drinking a little tonic water daily for at least a couple years now for the quinine. Maybe a cup a day. I was curious what all the hubub was about and that’s when I learned about its anti-malarial uses and so forth. It was fascinating.
I originally did that mainly for my curiosity – I wasn’t expecting it to suddenly become much more interesting…
It’s supposed to be good for cramps, too.
Quinine tonic water…Exactly why I started drinking it…even though I drink lots of water and liquids on a daily basis, especially when home. Started drinking lots of water when playing golf in Florida and it’s just a habit now, but regardless …still got leg and foot cramps at night so hence the quinine, which I find refreshing just as a drink and a nice change from plain water.
Got lots yesterday at Publix and also ordered the recommended quinine syrup on line to have as a back up. A large bottle (32oz) is $20 on Amazon and makes a lot..
Caffeine + lots of fluids = loss of potassium = leg cramps esp at night.
https://healthhearty.com/leg-cramps-potassium
https://healthfully.com/502318-does-excessive-caffeine-cause-potassium-depletion.html
https://healthfully.com/should-you-take-calcium-or-potassium-for-leg-cramps-6752265.html
No caffeine here…I think it’s mild neuropathy and my feet aren’t getting enough blood. Educated guess, only.
Drink daily veggie smoothies with lots of potassium in them.
AH – that explains my leg cramps (tons of coffee, sometimes) and why even the bad potassium source of Gatorade helps.
Wolf be careful with gatorade . My husband used to drink lots of gatorade and became diabetic.
A banana will help or dried apricots.
Also loss of Magnesium can cause leg cramps
LINK
….
Effects of Zinc With Potassium
“Zinc and potassium are both minerals that contribute to healthy body functions, including the functions of the immune, circulatory, muscular and digestive systems. The use of zinc supplements can lead to decreased levels of magnesium, which also lowers the levels of potassium in the body. This negative effect can be avoided by supplementing the diet with magnesium supplements, thereby increasing the levels of potassium in the body…..”
There is a lot more info at that site.
Thanks…will save that one. I like to be armed and sound half-way intelligent when I talk with my doctor!
I drink Gerolsteiner lots of magnesium in it. Balanced diet helps also to get all the minerals.
I like to stay with one cup of coffee a day otherwise have variety of tees.
My husband used to drink 5-6 cups of coffee a day and wound up with heart rhythmic problems. He also used to eat the wrong stuff on the run no breakfast and eat at night. He became diabetic 2 and he is very slim waist 32. Never was heavy.
Now he eats what I eat and he does not need meds for his diabetic and his heart rhythm was corrected at OH State Hospital.
Yes! That’s the main thing I was using it for originally. Then I sprained my ankle with a “moderate” sprain and had to put compression on my ankle and sleep a certain way which was putting me at constant risk of charlie-horse with the injured ankle. I was trying any trick I could think of to help prevent them since I couldn’t easily do my normal stretching.
Wolfie, i was concerned when I saw you were taking 50 mg zinc. Okay for a few days, like a week, but long-term it’s too much, and you can throw off other minerals like copper. Be careful
Thanks! Yeah, I think I’ve been long-term at 15 mg, so going to 25 or 30 may be more realistic.
If the following is true, assuming a glass is 8oz, then two quarts of quinine water would yield about 160 mg of quinine.
*https://www.huffpost.com/entry/quinine-tonic-water-gin_n_5982994
A glass of tonic water holds roughly 20 mg of quinine, whereas a dose for the treatment of leg cramps would be in the 200 to 300 mg range.
Yes, THIS article behind THAT article is GREAT!!!
https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/articles/is-quinine-in-tonic-water-safe
Everything we need to know.
Note that quinine can be pretty nasty stuff, with possible KIDNEY effects.
Yup. I’m gonna keep this on the low dosage level.
Good commentary I read this morning…
https://tennesseestar.com/2020/04/04/commentary-left-moving-from-proof-of-concept-to-execution-on-plan-to-bring-down-america/
Excellent commentary!
BOOM!!!
https://twitter.com/RichHiggins_DC/status/1246233465160433664
Yup! Notice the panic because they have a ‘cure’ for something. Finally a cure!Because if we find a cure so fast why are we pumping billions into research for other cures when I’m sure we already have them locked away.
Sidney Powell has a great idea!
Seems like the fifteen minute test could easily be drive up.
– Misc Q&A. Administer test.
Negative, have a nice day.
Positive pull up in another line and get the meds.
Like a ferry line!
Yes. I think THAT is where the potentially sick people need to go. Drive up.
There are MANY people getting into doc offices RIGHT NOW – all of them NOT sick. MANY of them are immune. If P. rex is right, MOST of them are immune. Gotta test them. If they are coming up mostly immune, the FARCE is over.
great …infect my doctor…no thank you.
There are many people without any signs of infection (sprained ankles) who are getting into our doctor’s offices right now. All of them need to be antibody tested, IMO. Max sunshine.
But yeah, infected people might try to sneak past the current doctors’ office screening to be tested, so there would have to be a MAGNET to draw them away. Drive-up would be the best.
hope you are doing better…any word on Sylvia? I haven’t checked on her.
NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!
Would spread the infection to all doctors/dentist offices.
Keep it contained to people who ARE TRAINED TO handle infectious diseases!!!
Great point. This is why distinguishing the TWO TYPES OF TESTS is important.
Gotta keep the “I might be infected” tests someplace ELSE, like it is now. Gotta make sure that people who might have the infection are DRAWN to the other place, instead of doctor’s offices.
But OTOH, everybody who is currently getting into the doc offices (and there are MANY – meaning people NOT LIKE ME, who have to do virtual visits – and there ARE many people still getting in to see the doctors) after being screened for temps, history, etc.(that is what is happening now) need to be ANTIBODY TESTED to see if they’re immune.
You see what I’m saying?
We can antibody test IN PLACE with no added risk to the population. The only gotcha is to make sure that people who MIGHT have the disease have some place SAFER and EASIER to go INSTEAD of doctor’s offices. That will make doctor’s offices EVEN SAFER than they are now.
We need DATA on who can go back, and we have a perfect situation to get that data already.
About that carrier captain:
General Milley – “Secretary of the Navy is responsible to the American people….any time the Secretary of the Navy or a commanding officer loses trust and confidence in a subordinate, the subordinate goes.”
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1246158250745176070
San Fran Chronicle was captain’s home town….hmmmm
Read that POTUS didn’t agree with the firing, but t’s exactly what he does with his advisors, staff and Cabinet…so he really has to step back in this one, IMO.
planned.
Is there a chance he will be court martialed?
Depends on factors I don’t have the answers to.
If he let sailors off the ship during a pandemic – that is reckless, irresponsible, possibly intentional – so you are right – may have been planned.
What’s going on with pneumonia deaths?
China Virus leads to respiration problems.
Are the pneumonia death classified as COVID-19 in the reporting?
https://twitter.com/rmsgeek/status/1246214783830982656/photo/1
Well that’s the bright spot of the Coronavirus, it has resulted in a dramatic drop in pneumonia fatalities /s
I think we just discovered that grim reaper pneumonias tend to start with coronavirus infections – and the way we did it was by the ChiComs releasing a new one that “jiggled the numbers”.
Apparently, deputies across Missouri and the snitches who have nothing better to do and claim way too many people have been out not social distancing, have managed to convince our not-elected machine Republican governor that we need a state-wide stay at home order. The local orders, apparently, were not enough. So, now the COUNTY parks – the ones that are so big you can get lost in the woods – are closed.
I still maintain that there’s more to this than meets the eye, but all that order is going to do in the long run is ensure anyone in office is voted out in November. Seriously, we don’t have the levels of the bug that other places have, and it’s concentrated in the two metropolitan regions. Why punish the people in the Ozarks?
Our Gov did it here as well. People still going about their day to day as normal though. Most businesses still open. Lots of pushback over forced quarantine.
Here in central Illinois, too, and it’s caused a lot of fear and hysteria.
GRAND CANYON was shut down because ONE employee tested positive! Now, that is nuts!
That fake gov is an idiot. Most people were aLready doing this.
Too bad he’s running again. Not good options MO. (Now toss out the city mayor)
Problem os some stores are not delivering some items so you have to pick it up in store.
On his show last night (?) – Tucker reminds us of how wrong Fauci was and how he mis-led us in his early public remarks – poo-pooing the danger to Americans. Tucker also reminds us that Fauci’s early models were also wrong.
Now we can see how this led to the major outbreaks
Super Bowl fed the Miami/Dade/S FL outbreak.
Mardi Gras going on as usual and a special Mardi Gras cruise ship fed the New Orleans outbreak.
Nancy Pelosi fed the California outbreak by urging Californians to ignore the virus and go to Chinatown, celebrate Chinese New Year?
Cuomo and his health officer Oxiris fed the New York outbreak by urging New Yorkers to get out and hug a Chinese and eat in Chinese restaurants, have fun as usual?
On TV – Fauci told the public we were in no danger of an epidemic in the USA.
During all the early Task Force briefings – Fauci and Birx and others told Americans the risk was low.
Sounds like these people all either irresponsibly allowed or actually wanted Muh Pandemic.
Was it in order to stop Trump rallies and the Trump booming economy?
Were they saying this on Bill Gates and George $0ros orders?
Do we have an updated shovel report from Sylvia?
Yes, Marica upthread. Sylvia not yet 100% but doing better 👍
Oh My God, let this be over soon!
https://twitter.com/kr3at/status/1246245628637851650
This is likely your culprit right here. https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/03/31/government-restricts-number-of-people-allowed-to-attend-funerals-in-spain-to-only-three-and-funeral-companies-are-not-allowed-to-raise-their-prices/
Again gov politico’s muck up the works by making limitations on funerals and then tightening those limitations further. Paying customers then ask for the funeral to be delayed hoping for a better day and thus cause back logs in normal out put and you end up with an artificial shortage of space at the funeral homes.
Meanwhile deaths from other causes have likely dropped due to everyone being hunkered down.
We are being HAD, on a National scale. My state has
duchess01.5 million people. There are @ 830 cases. That is .000184% or less than 2 ten thousandths of a percent.
There are @ 37 deaths that is .0000082% or less than 1 millionth of a percent of the population. You LITTERALLY have a better chance of being killed here by being kicked by a horse.
I was rummaging around the CDC site, and it is a jumbled mess WITH a FREAKING disclaimer on the numbers saying they are ESTIMATED.
There is the chart listing the growth for the ENTIRE country. a constant upward curve, DUH everyone with the sniffles or low grade fever who would normally IGNORE it or take Tamiflu or Tylenol or Robitussin, is NOW getting tested. Of COURSE the numbers of infected go up. Yet, curiously, no one, especially Dr Doom and Lady Deathstrike, see the NEED to know the TRUE denominator by doing the antibody testing to determine TRUE numbers of infected and especially RECOVERED who are immune.
I noticed yesterday that Rush, is now ECHOING my hypothesis, and other are ALSO. We were ALL infected MUCH earlier, and there was an article highlighting that there were, as my own simple math concluded, over 700000 Chinese coming and going on flights and throughout the country BEFORE Trump shut the flights off. WHILE the virus was raging in China and elsewhere.
There is some DEFINATE funny business going on. Fauchi gave a briefing to some conference yesterday, NOT his daily doom and gloom at the national briefing. I shit you not, Dr Doom, the CHIEF purveyor and propagandist of models, told that entire conference, that the models were NOT reliable, and could not be trusted, too many variables. Well NO SHIT Sherlock. YOU do not wan to KNOW the truth, or to stop this, you want to spout bullshit and continue to kill the economy. Newsflash, when you kill the economy, you KILL the country. You don’t want antibody testing or widespread use of the CHEAP, easily made, PLENTIFUL, and KNOWN safe Chloroquine, that would END this. You want a “vaccine” which may or may NOT work, and will NOT be available for 18 months, by that time we ALL, except the elite of course, will be DEAD.
Dr Doom and Lady Deathstrike need to GO, and go NOW, get some FRESH blood with a NEW unbiased perspective, before it is too late. Two weeks my friends, and I bet my gopher suit that Dr Doom and Lady D will be asking to EXTEND the shutdown base on “new” projections. A never ending, and in the end self fulfilling prophecy.
Ever heard cutting your nose off to spite your face? This is essentially cutting our own throats to keep from “getting” sick or “infecting others” News flash, if this thing is that badass as they have tried to make it, it ISN’T, it would find a way to STILL infect us all. They are quite literally making it up as they go, and using the OUTLIERS to project to get the REST of the country to capitulate. Now the kicker, and Rush revealed it yesterday, the one size fits all is in the name NOT of safety or precaution, but FAIRNESS. It would NOT be “fair” to shut down NY and CA, while the rest live normal lives. WTF are we doing here folks? The same people spouting this BS are getting PAID, they HAVE a job, they are just BAD at it, unless you count their propaganda value, then they are QUITE good at it, and valuable.
On to an anomaly in the CDC site. You look and there are two featured charts, one on the current number of cases, which is a sharp incline. and one, that is not as well explained. One that shows Covid 19 cases by DATE OF ONSET. That one comes with ANOTHER disclaimer, but as we are now, by their OWN admissions, 2 months into this, we have enough data to actually see some things, although STILL flawed due to too man unknowns.
The CURIOUS thing is that this date of onset chart, SHOULD mirror the sharp upward trajectory of infections in the first chart, yet it does NOT. It PEAKED, and is now on a steady decline. Something is NOT adding up here. How can THAT be?
I think I KNOW. To make this look worse, and there ARE more and more reports that they ARE, they are fudging the numbers. EVERYONE that dies in some cases, is being marked as Covid 19 related, even if the true cause was heart attack, cancer, etc. They are doing it to get MORE funding, probably mandated from Hospital admins, which as we know, are in it for the $$, thanks to Obamacare. Hospitals that survived, are STRICTLY in it for $$$.
No $$$, they CLOSE or SELL. I know folks, TRUST me, my former employer just bought 5 in a system that were BANKRUPT. They borrowed from the state to GET them. 50 million. There is a game within the game here.
There IS precedent. Once upon a time Mrs Rex was an ER tech,, and a GOOD one. She was at a BUSY hospital, She told me one night that EVERYONE that came to the ER, those even with broken bones like legs and arms, and those with lacerations, ALL of them got a CBC (blood test) and a chest xray. ALL of them, REGARDLESS.
A few months later, what did we ALL hear about? MASSIVE Medicare fraud. Imagine that, and there were BOGUS charges for UNEEEDED services like…chest xrays and blood tests. HMMM curious huh?
I think NY and the “hotspots” conveniently all LIBERAL controlled (Miami in FL. , New Orleans in LA, Dallas in TX, and Detroit in Mi., coupled with NY, NJ, and CA) are exaggerating some numbers here, and it is due to BIG money available UNQUESTIONED during their time of crisis. No one would take advantage of a horrible crisis over money would they? OF COURSE they would. WHO writes the numbers? THAT is a key.
I urge you ALL to do the math on YOUR states, and PAY attention. My bet is that those of you not in the hotspots will see similar or LESS numbers. Then ask yourselves. why are WE being included in a global total with OUTLIERS, we MAY or MAY not see the same things in our neck of the woods. NOT is my guess.
WHY? Fairness? using the epicenter a 30 sq mile region, to affect the entire COUNTRY? Something is a miss, and it SMELLS
It’s crystal clear that the plan is long term. Pelosi is so certain of it that she’s making the call for mail-in voting. That indicates months away..almost into 2021.
Gates giving his vaccine spiel…matter of fact saying we could possibly never be allowed large gatherings again…they are seeing how compliant we really are. We talk a good game but…
I promise you, IF this farce is NOT ended by April 30, and they AGAIN try to move the goalposts, (They will TRY). There will be MASSIVE and I mean MASSIVE pushback, if NOT civil disobedience. I have been out and about, and while slightly hidden, the ANGER is percolating under the surface, and I mean ANGER.
People, even the sheeple are starting to realize, as the see more and more freedoms being taken DAILY, and more and more “guidelines” being pushed.
The reason this was successful in the beginning is they only slowly took things, like bars, malls, sports, not all at once. Then people STILL had church, gone. Then people STILL had the parks, GONE, then the people STILL could travel, GONE, then the people still had Wal mart, grocieries, and hardware stores to get out and do something.
They are now, as they ALWAYS do. over reaching, they are making people go into stores 35 at a time..in get this a LINE, a LONG line, Now it is Wal mart.
Tomorrow it will be groceries, and THEN my friends all HELL is going to break loose. Don’t believe me just WATCH.
There will FIRST be civil discord, civil disobedience to the “guidelines” not LAW, “guidelines” there WILL be fights, big ones, then comes the riots and looting. THEN comes the ARMED march on state and Fed govts and Capitols. by the MILLIONS.
People are NOT guying all that ammo and gus to set them in a gun safe, they are getting prepped. Some out of fear, some because the SEE that the Govt and its little dictators in Governors and Mayors KEEP spreading doom, without PROO that doom is HERE. Only projected DOOM, and it will be here…any day now…any day now…as the leftists push harder and harder taking more and more FREEDOM.
This WILL reach critical mass, and VERY soon. Trump was RIGHT about Easter, he KNEW it in his gut, it gave people HOPE and a light at the end of the tunnel. THAT is why the stock market went back up over 4000 points in 4 days, NOT the stimulus. People again had HOPE.
Then, he, in listening to DR Doom and Lady Deathstrike, QUASHED it till the END of April. People got pissed, like me, but ACCEPTED it On FAITH, and the belief that this really was the once in a lifetime killer the MSM hyped it to be.
That FAITH has LIMITS. April 30th is IT unless the Cabal can create enough “death” to meet Dr Doom’s projections by then, (they WON’T, because this virus is more like the flu than it is the Spanish flu, and it sure isn’t 2x what the Spanish flu was, as they hyped)
No, my friends WHEN Dr Doom tries to beg off more time, and the projections and the “models” STILL are not even close, the American people by the MILLIONS will say SCREW THIS. They will KNOW they were PLAYED, and they will NOT be happy. They will WANT someone’s head.
Dr doom is FIRST up to the block. See the MSM and Cabal will think WRONGLY, that this is Trump’s fault, and that we will blame him. WRONG AGAIN. That is why they are trying to create the narrative that Trump could have done MORE.
IT like ALL their other schemes will NOT work AS INTENDED. The backlash will be on thoise that FABRICATED a lie, pushed it as a terror to the President, and then he RIGHTLY tried to avoid it. The fraudster’s will take that hit, NOT the guy that believed their lie and tried to and save us.
The ONLY way Trump gets hit in ANY of this is IF he does not recognize the fraud BEFORE April 30th, puts a STOP to the fraud and the fraudsters, and dooes the ONLY thing that will begin to FIX this mess, and reopen the country in phases with precautions, on a SCHEDULE, so people AGAIN have hope and a light at the end of this nightmare. AND< he had BETTER STICK to that timeline like GLUE, and ONLY adjust parts in outliers, and WITH proof. He also THIS WEEK, should ORDER that Hydroxy Chloroquine + Azithromycin be used in ALL hospital cases of Covid 19, and ALSO available under prescription by Dr's to ALL that want to take it as a prophylaxes . Then he should ORDER antibody testing for ANYONE that wants it, and MANDATE it for first responders. In areas of the country who are extremely low, he should also ORDER a study in volunteers for antibody testing to SEE if they already had it, and THAT caused the low number.
But FIRST, before ANY of that, he should shed Dr Dom and Lady Deathstrike. Say they were burned out, MAKE an excuse for NEW blood, hell EXPAND the task force to MORE people OUTSIDE the CDC. There are hundreds if not THOUSANDS of Dr's that could weigh in via teleconference, and throw SHADE on Dr Doom and Lady D.
GET A SECOOND OPINION so to speak. DO IT and do it QUICK Mr Preisdent, otherwise you WILL have a REAL mess and LOTS more death and destruction than this virus could hope for. NOT a threat a prediction, and one based on a LIFETIME of reading people and making a living at it. Trust me, I'm right, there are WAY more people ready to blow than they or anyone knows.
This is simply tooo harsh, and TOO LONG, and they keep pushing. Pushback will be SEVERE..
ONLY one man can stop it. He had better do it PDQ!
PDJT must implement the cure before the Cabal/media promote the Gates vaccine nonstop as the one and only hope for mankind. That’s where this is heading, imho
I agree – we need to push PAST the bullshit blocky response of “everybody do this”.
MASSIVE ANTIBODY TESTING NOW. THAT IS SUNLIGHT. Get sunlight on how many are still vulnerable, and what their likely outcome is.
There is a HUGE psy-op effect here.
Essentially, front-line medicine has suddenly “discovered” the role of corona viruses in killing off the OLD AND INFIRM, because a NEW ONE was used by CHINA to get rid of its pensioners and (they hoped) Trump. As well as certain enemies overseas.
We have discovered that “plain old pneumonia” was suddenly not just flu, but “crud”.
CRUD HAS A NAME!!!
And NEW CRUD HAS A PERP!!!
Who is going to PAY FOR THE CLEANUP.
China, AND the Cabal here who support them. ONE way or the OTHER. And I promise you, the will NOT like the Other way for it will be in more than just $$$.
TGP is hammering that fake Doctor! Too many links to post. But he said something about the cure not working weeks ago and something about seeing how trump would deal with a pandemic.
Oh the poor dear! I feel so sorry for her. (sarc)
These entertainers collectively are nutty. Does she think very many people care about her sex problems?
I suppose her candles that are scented after her private parts aren’t working to set the mood??!!
Poor guy…
Paltrow is a nutcase. For real.
UNREAL.
These people. Good grief.
It’a a BIG SCAM. B
By all these Government and Medical entities claiming deaths are due to CCPFlu, they get guaranteed Government payments and Extra assets they would otherwise be responsible for and have failed to provide. Broke Dems redistribution of wealth in progress. Biggest example is CUOMO – Now all of the rest of us have to subsidize this POS’s mismanagement. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Also, seeing many annual graphs of pneumonia and flu deaths extremely LOW. How does a new virus come to town and stop annual Flu and Pneumonia deaths from happening????
I think president Trump is letting them RUN…
People have to HURT, people have to be AFRAID BEFORE they will accept the truth that this was an orchestrated bio-weapon/takedown of the USA.
……
I wonder if Chicago still has shooting deaths?
Do other big cities still have gang violence?
How many automobile accidents are not happening?
All we keep hearing about China virus deaths.
I hope POTUS sees what is happening and sees the truth?
By the way my husband told me today that the country will have a big change and nothing will be the same. He thinks industry will change and economics and it will be better for the future of the country.
Those who do not come back from China will become irrelevant because new US companies will spring up with new ideas and processes.
I hope he is right and he is from Queens and an optimist .
Shootings continue in Chicago ….
http://heyjackass.com
Is that the DNC site ? (just from the name) 😆
No – it’s the nitty gritty details and data about Chicago shootings.
(Yep, I know…I was just jumping at the chance to diss the DEMONicRATS)…
Ironic that the most gun violence/deaths/injuries/etc. occurs in places with the strictest gun control…
Puts paid that old adage, “when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns”…
Over here, they’ve taken to knives (“thanks” to our “cultural enrichment” from the Moslem world).
Failing that, they resort to steel bars, baseball bats, 2x4s, or anything at hand that can be used as a weapon.
But facts like those cannot even begin to penetrate the miniscule, hermetically-sealed liberal minds…
Yeah, so that’s what is happening in NYS. Deaths are being re-classified to coronavirus deaths.
ok so this is creepy
https://twitter.com/RealPeachyKeen2/status/1246510767500902402?s=20
Well, this is interesting.
https://twitter.com/Inevitable_ET/status/1246513252252766209
Oh, there is a beautiful explanation here that makes BOTH SIDES RIGHT. Those are always the BEST.
What has happened here is that NEW MEDICAL UNDERSTANDING has bifurcated prior disease tallying and GIVEN A NAME to a part of the GRIM REAPER which used to be powered by normal strains of corona viruses leading to pneumonia, and is now powered by those plus a new one.
Previously just called “pneumonia”, corona virus damage followed by “whatever” has likely been the common “minor flu” or “crud” that killed a lot of people who were compromised in various ways.
We just accepted it and didn’t call it anything. And, very likely, the existing corona viruses entered humanity from bat caves over pre-history and history, as humans inhabited and explored caves.
What ChiCom-19 did was add a NEW, human-modified corona virus, that actually slices a bit more broadly with the Grim Reaper’s scythe. In doing so, it leaves people on ventilators in massive numbers if you try to save them.
It’s not “just the flu”, but it’s not the Black Death, either.
It is what it is. A “novel coronavirus” from Chinese meddling in bat caves to produce bioweapons.
Latest conspiracy theory floating around – Where did all of the cases of usual/seasonal/”regular” flu go? There is a simple, logical answer.
With the semi-shut down, social distancing, no nursing home and hospital visits, extreme focus on hygeine, schools closed & big public gatherings canceled, etc, all to slow the spread of Wuhan Virus, all other flu is Also NOT being spread.
Flu is not as contagious as Wuhan Virus but it must spread from person to person, via human contact, so …. Everything we are doing for Wuhan Virus is Also stopping the spread of influenza of all kinds (each year the “flu” cases are a mix of various influenza strains).
And since flu is actually less contagious, all of this is Stopping flu even better than it is stopping Wuhan virus.
Many (not all) pneumonia cases begin with someone being infected with another illness, such as flu. Less precursor illness, less pneumonia.
How would I encounter the flu? I have been No where other than the doctor for 3 weeks. Husband & son have been No where other than a few store/shopping trips and those are doing with face masks, Much extra attention to sanitation. Usually, Husband is in the office, we are at an extra curricular activities with other children (chess club, Trail Life, martial arts, field trips, etc.) almost daily, errands to the stores, banks, library, etc. almost daily, church gathers, GOP meetings – Lots of public interaction and germ exposer possibilities. Now – next to none. Same with many of us. So…logical…less of all communal illness, including influenza.
Ask yourself if you have had the same exposure to the flu since the Wuhan Virus mitigations have begun. No? Same for Everyone else. And it is harder to “catch” so all of these actions Really hinder the flu spread!
Do I think that no gov employee is above inflating numbers? No. Do I think there are some or even many that are trying to use the emergency for their own purposes? No. Do I think we need to be aware of what people are doing and hold them accountable? Yes.
But I think that most of the disappearance of the flu and often subsequent pneumonia is simply and logically explained by all that we are doing to slow the spread of Wuhan Virus.
There are So many real issues to address, real controversies, real corruption, real anti American plans/conspiracies…but some things can be explained logically and simply. So many questions of where/why/how/intent/key actors of Wuhan, role of WHO, CDC, FDA, CCP, etc. Some of the questions may be distractions from Questions that Need to be asked and from fighting against Dem’s next hoax and fake news taking points.
I find it interesting that the VERY FIRST time someone posted about this, this was the rationale given. Makes perfect sense.
Since then it has been non-stop shrieking about how the flu was COVID all along, etc., etc.
President Trump just mentioned this very thing in passing during the press conference.
He also mentioned fewer hospitalizations due to cancelation in elective surgeries/services but also due to fewer accidents as people are at home.
Suspicious that fewer Wuhan virus cases? Or are we seeing Mitigation Working?!
Suspicious that hospitals in hot spots seem quiet? Logical explanations including Patients are on the *inside* not outside, No visitors, No elective surgeries, fewer people using the ER as a doctor’s office out of concern of becoming infected with WuFlu, fewer accidents and other kinds of usual emergencies that make the outside of the hospitals look busy, etc.
SO Many real questions, real investigations needed…be careful to not promote chaff and misinformation that is
a) a distraction for Real questions
b) undermining President Trump from the right as well as from the left
Trust Trump. Support his leadership.
Passionate Press Conference today with President Trump being Real, genuine, transparent, emotional about healthcare workers…and talking truth w/no care of PC, calling out Biden, CNN, press in general, fake news floating around, etc. On fire and many great moments.
President Trump talked about taking the Trump Treatment and how is might taking malaria meds proactively & discussed it at length
–>>He is Busting the Fake News on this issue!!!!!
–>>And it is a Great example of going after the deep state, certain “players” and yet suppuorting and trusting Trump.
BRIEFING is about to start
WH –
GST –
GST has gone live – scene in the press room….
NONE of the newsies are wearing masks…. heh.
So, by “mistake”, multiple WuFlu patients were delivered to the USNS hospital ship in NYC. So maybe we can contaminate the ship and somehow cause a big problem. Ooppps! Giggle, giggle.
Just heard on Fox News.
That’s so nice..but mom and pop on the corner are pariahs…CV hotbeds..Avoid! No shut down!
https://www.newsday.com/business/real-estate-essential-business-1.43599716
New York is allowing real estate agents, inspectors and appraisers to resume work — but only by showing homes “virtually” or working in their own offices, state officials said Thursday.
https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1246520694009184256
Well now we know what that play was.
Coma complains about Trump not getting him vents.
Then Coma pivots and get some China.
Coma praise China, disses Trump.
CCP looks like hero. Propaganda war!
Don’t trust China – China is ASSHOE!!!
I’m going to scream if they rehab China into the hero…what else will they miraculously do to turn this around????
They’re going to try. Bank on it. False narrative has already started.
Cuomo is a snake in the grass!
I’m REALLY ANGRY today – If they would give people Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc and Zpacks and clear up the WHOLE DAMN THING!!!
No need for all this million face masks, ventilators, respirators, etc!!!
I T A….why are we playing this game?
It is wrong to play political games with Bill Gates and his vaccine crap.
Solving the problem defeats the cabal/deep state’s game.
I’m hoping there’s something up POTUS’s sleeves more than this stalling for time.
^^^ B I N G O ^^^
Anybody watching the briefing that can post updates?
I watch every day but no not posting updates as got tied of being cussed at, called names and being criticized and belittled….in a MAGA crowd. Expect in from leftist on social media. Not worth the fighting. Come here to get away from that. Not worth it At All to me, not even a little bit. Better things to do with my time. Would rather fight for President Trump on social media despite nasty push back from leftist than get that here.
Not just those who said these things but large number of frequent posters “liked” so gone from commenting (99% gone) and now (mainly) just a reader. Like people who relay the press conferences? might want to not curse, call names, belittle and otherwise spew at those who do.
The comment section is shaped and developed over time.
Hear, hear!!!
Spare us the victim act, hmmmk?
Funny how that happened with you and not anyone else.
But according to you it is your critics…and there are many as you point out….that are the problem, not you.
Hint: use of a “fwiw” and/or “imho” can go a LONG way, especially when you take it upon yourself to correct others in an attempt to get them into line with what you think is right or correct.
FWIW
Not a “victim” –>> just not interested nor interested nor motivated after other’s behavior.
I will fight misinformation, disinformation and fake news wherever I find it…period. Post something repeatedly after info has been posted with links showing it is fake news then they need to be corrected more bluntly.
If I posted something that is factually wrong I would *want* to be corrected.
People want to be left with their misinformation … ok by me. Now I know.
Cursing and name calling because someone corrects misinformation? Leftists do it all the time. Sign of emotion when one’s “truth” is challenged. Sad but used to it from the left. Sad to see it on the right.
Haven’t been here for several days, won’t be back to this thread again & no notifications so cuss and name call and ridicule….Shrug shoulders, walk away, not worth wasting my time.
Scanning comments for new info just like I do at the Conservative Treehouse not worth engaging at this point. Too many other effective places to spend my online time. Like water off a ducks back and moving on….
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5871221/Melania-Trump-wears-jacket-REALLY-DONT-CARE-U-visit-immigrant-children.html
You’re right.
This site has turned into a gigantic echo chamber.
For instance, there is ZERO, zip, zilch NADA sauce on the whole thing about thousands of kids being kept in tunnels underground and about to be, or being, rescued by the military.
NONE.
Yet many here quote each other, quote “some guy on the internet” who is quoting some other “guy on the internet”. You know, this is the SAME crap the YSM does, they quote each other until everyone assumes the narrative is true.
And I’m even seeing people who think this whole corona virus response is a COVER for this thing that there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE FOR.
Maybe you’ve got the right idea, MAGA Mom.
I agree with this. We need to use discernment and not be so anxious for *something* to happen.
Glad you’re back and that the lynch mob didn’t drive you away. They need to get rooms for themselves over at U-Tree . . . BUT NOT HERE ! ! !
Appreciate so many commenters here who bring value, info, analysis (still referring back to your post, Steve re #s – thank you so much taking the time to do that) and yet amazing creativity for left brainers!
Always impressed at your balance of facts/left brain and right brain creativity, able to compose a poem seemingly on demand! 🙂
Still scanning here. Time spent posting in other locations that are more productive. 🙁
maybe more here later when people aren’t so emotional & stressed & are better focus on Trust Trump. disappointed but eye opening experience.
Watching the stats and wish they could post more but they have to watch HIPPA laws carefully in what is posted in public and I guess that is why they are careful what is released. Learned a lesson about that the hard way which is why I am careful before I believe stories about specific patients in the media that are not released by their family members.
I would rather trust Trump than Trust a Plan that called for me to go against what he is saying directly to us. Would rather fight for what he is telling us than against what he is telling us. Have no idea why so many are so suspicious of President Trump’s leadership right now. Appalling. He is fighting for us Harder Now than ever!
Most important, I don’t want to come here to fight against fake news and for President Trump. I expect to relax here and just share info with others who trust Trump and believe what he is telling us – that should be a given here!
Anyway, headed back outside. My men are haying to build garden up for planting. Mix of hugelkulture/permaculture/Ruth Stout. Love to take pics and encourage them from the sidelines. making them some lemonade – part lemonade and part Vit C powder to keep up our systems against this nasty virus.
these young people sing with such simple convictions and clarity. Listening to them as I take my coffee break….
I find value in what you have to say and hope you will continue to post here. I appreciate fact-based analysis, while at the same time I also trust Pres. Trump and know he knows much more than we do.
One way or another a lot of people here are going to have egg on their faces.
It’s just a matter of who, and whether they’ll own up to it.
Well hopefully not from me! 😉
Maga Mom, Always look forward to your posts. Admittedly, a few I can’t always follow, but that is simply slow guy, me. Thank you for taking the time to post and splain stuff.
Maga Mom, By the way, my “Thank you” post the other day was with good thoughts. NOT, that you were done posting for the day.
Sincerely, Thank You!
President Trump is coming off as tired and discouraged and disorganized.
GA/FL
Remember that the name of the game for the DeepState / Soros Cabal (includes Hilary Clinton) / UN Globalists — is to make POTUS into HERBERT HOOVER ON STEROIDS. That way they can engineer putting a DemCom into the Oval Office in January 2021. Andrew Cuomo is being groomed to be either the VP or the Presidential pick for them, once Joe Biden drops out or is removed by fiat. Hillary Clinton’s fingerprints are all over this.
The goal is to make POTUS look like another incompetent Herbert Hoover, who was blamed for not anticipating or dealing property with, the 1929 Stock Market crash and the start of the Great Depression.
Already the above players are forecasting a deep recession for 2020. There is already speculation that this recession will turn into an economic Great Depression II— 35% unemployment, etc.
Their last gasp is to try and turn POTUS into Herbert Hoover On Steroids, then use this to convince the American citizens that only the Democrats can save them and the country. It worked before — brought in FDR. they believe it can work again, with the new wrinkle of the Wuhan Coronavirus as the impetus.
Guessing President Trump is waiting for the 1,000 or 1,100 test nearing completion in NY. When that is finished, unless something terrible is documented, we are going to hear a LOUD AND CLEAR…
Monday 6 April…President Trump at the 5 PM presser…
HCQ/Zpaks, perhaps Zinc are smart way for folks that are positive.
– Hype the speed of recovery.
– Hype NOT going on a ventilator.
– Hype no lung damage.
Proclainm HCQ/Zpaks be made available as Right To Try for inpatient and out patient. ALL from National stockpile. Circumvents the asshole guvs in NV, MI…
Fauci and Brix can and will chirp away about studies, double blind…yada, yada…President Trump will graciously let them play, have their studies…AND AMERICA MOVE FORWARD AT TRUMP SPEED.
.
.
THEN, when inventory supports it, HCQ as a preventive measure.
Likely open season to celebrate Easter, openly.
Back to work…quickly. Couple weeks at the most. Many states sooner.
.
.
IF casinos were open, I’d wager big on the above playing out.
He does sound tired. Busy man.
Interesting tidbit.
The quinine in tonic water will fluoresce under ultraviolet light–strongly enough that it will even glow blue against a black background in direct sunlight.
It’s a way to check your tonic water, or your UV bulbs if you are wondering if your pet reptile is getting enough UV from his light (they tend to weaken over time).
Yep. And it’s so consistent in the effect and color, that it’s used as a standard (according to Wackypedia)…
Finally, PDJT is talking about HCQ and plasma treatments!
29 million doses on hand. Some made in USA and some foreign sources.
With about 285,000 known active cases in the US, we have over 10 times the amount required to give every identified case a regimen of 10 HCQ doses, 200mg twice a day for 5 days. And there’s more being made in the pipeline.
There is no shortage. All the limits are total evil B.S. ! ! !
Talking about Oracle site for medical professionals to follow studies, cases and results.
I think this is it…. https://covid19.oracle.com
Here is a link to follow published studies at the National Institute of Health library: NLM COVID-19 search – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=coronavirus+covid-19
Dr. Steve Hahn, head of FDA, is talking about the emergency approval of HCQ and about the plasma program.
Here is his twitter – *
Tweets by SteveFDA
and the FDA twitter feed – *
Tweets by US_FDA
Here is Dr. Fauci talking about mitigation – separation – staying home. He says it is making a difference.
Asked about the firing the IG – President Trump said it was because of his work during the Sham – Peach – Mint !
https://twitter.com/thisizwhack/status/1246498164166754304
Uhhh-ohhh.
Media caught lying once again.
Media caught being FED the lies ?
Hmmm…. we have seen lots of that, haven’t we?
Since we know that there’s little to none investigative reporting beyond “alt” media they’re getting their stories and talking points from the propaganda hub
When kids are dying twice from the disease it goes to show how devastating it is /s
This cpr for 40 minutes straight wont work. Not only that, how many physicians are available to sit on a radio and monitor the paramedics?
Pretty much theyll go through 2 cycles and the paramedics will be too exhausted to continue. Not only that, this will tie up paramedics for other calls.
I wish we had a paramedic or 2 who contributed here, but the point is,
L.A. is essentially saying theyre going to let peopke start dying in the field.
“Los Angeles County officials this week ordered paramedics to wait five minutes after reviving someone with cardiac arrest to see if their heart stops again before racing them to the hospital, a policy intended to reduce the number of high-risk patients flooding emergency rooms during the coronavirus pandemic.
The policy, which could apply to 911 patients with heart attacks and drug overdoses, as well as those with COVID-19, instructs first responders to wait and see whether a patient loses heart function again within five minutes after being revived. If so, paramedics will continue CPR in the field until a doctor tells them to stop because it is likely futile. CPR could continue for as long as 40 minutes, according to county officials.
The aim is to keep people who are likely to die out of hospitals, which are expected to soon be overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients as the pandemic worsens. The number of people who have been hospitalized with COVID-19 in L.A. County more than doubled between Monday and Friday.
“The likelihood we’re going to do something different in the ER is unlikely, so then you’re basically putting additional risk to the system without real, clear benefit,” said Dr. Marianne Gausche-Hill, medical director of the county Emergency Medical Services Agency, who signed the policy that went into effect Monday.”
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-county-tells-paramedics-to-delay-transporting-cardiac-patients-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/?taid=5e88efa053c773000108e28c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
Sorry…..we’re gonna let you die so we can be prepared for something that might not happen.
Sincerely,
LA LA Land
Ikr????
NOW we can see what their REAL INTENT is…
Hell almost isn’t hot enough for them…
Øboho appears to have finally gotten his death panels…
“The aim is to keep people who are likely to die out of hospitals, which are expected to soon be overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients as the pandemic worsens.”
___________________
Must be Godot Hospital?
Because that’s who they’re waiting for.
It’s pure insanity.
DON’T treat any ACTUAL patients today, so you have capacity to treat a potential avalanche of patients tomorrow.
An avalanche that may never come, and hopefully won’t, and as far as LOTS of ‘ground reports’ from medical professionals are attesting, certainly isn’t happening yet.
It’s like somebody threw a pandemic, and nobody showed up.
But we’re going to pretend like the system is overwhelmed, because federal resources are flowing fast and furious, and if we don’t squeak like we’re in WWI trenches, our wheels won’t get any grease.
If this whole thing is largely a hoax, the perpetrators should be death-penalty eligible.
Sickening this is.
Why not just send them all to USNS Mercy? Last I heard they weren’t real busy there.
Probably want to save it for politicians and connected folk, to stay away from the riffraff.
Ground report. Despite heavy pressure from the local Democrats to wear a face mask, I observed about 50/50 mask compliance at the local supermarket. Of the people wearing masks, I’d say it was 70% women and 30% men. On my neighborhood walk, I didn’t see a single mask. I did see more children riding bikes than I have in years.
Supermarket: More picked over than previous weeks! I suspect it’s because near the beginning of the month and the government benefits are trickling in. If today is any indication, expect empty shelves again when the stimulus checks arrive.
Still no toilet paper.
They said that toilet paper is not an effective prevention for the spread of the Coronavirus. I don’t recall seeing a trial done with a double-blind study to that effect 😉
In watching Dr. Birx’s body language, it looks like she has a massive headache. Tense forehead with lines. She’s blinking a lot. She looks exhausted.
VP is talking about how the nurses, doctors – because of the no visitor rules – are having to substitute for patients families.
They are holding phones up to the patients so they can hear and see their families!
Our numbers in Missouri today increased, but at a lower percentage. Still, in a state of 6 million, we have less than 2,300 CASES. Number of deaths is still under 50.
It looks like other states of similar size are in the same boat.
Its interesting to see where in the county its the most at via the map.
Did we ever hear anything from that first case where the father took his kid to a dance? Seems to have gotten lost in the ‘news’
Staying safe DP?
We’re doing okay. Not in the hot zones of north or west county. Funny that south county isn’t as badly hit. But, then, those are the descendants of the south siders who would scrub their steps with Bon Ami. You could eat off their floors, too.
As for the Villa dad…I’ll keep my ear to the ground when we go back to Church. Something is liable to shake loose on that.
Tucked away here in the central corridor, you hear things….
And just for clarification when it comes to Father-Daughter dinner dances and breakfasts – these are BIG right of passage sorts of events at the high schools. Same with Mother-Son. My mom had so much fun with my brothers. My old babysitter had the picture of her and her dad framed. My school did a Mass and brunch on Sunday morning. I don’t blame the dad or the daughter for not wanting to miss it. But…the other daughter was sick. The school would definitely have let the sister go the next year.
LOL…..
Not pushing numbers now… that’s telling.
Two weeks…. again two weeks.
Go POTUS!!!!!!! Bring on the drugs.
President Trump is saying he prefers people trying the HCQ/Zpack instead of relying on ventilators.
Yup got that as well. Try the drugs its up to you but its up to you.
I think there’s a legal/liability issue here.
Legal was cleared by the FDA. Still need a doc to prescribe. The dosage is low enough where the potential side effects are very low. Plus it is only a five day treatment. And like the President said, what do you have to lose. Once on a ventilator you are in trouble.
I think if someone shows as positive, are over 60, and have any of the co-morbilities, high blood psi, CVD, diabetes then the HCQ, zpack should be automatic.
PT knows this work and today he essentially told Fauci to pack sand. The treatment Fauci is pushing, remdesiver (sp?) costs $1000 per treatment. The full HCQ, zpack is $20 for the full five days.
Trump is exposing FAKE SCIENCE by exposing FAKE MEDICINE first. Everybody can see it. That’s the beauty of letting the Trump Unmasking Effect do its thing!
Why did it happen? MONEY. MONEY has a life of its own. MONEY tries to GROW. MONEY tries to GAIN POWER. MONEY wants to be important – just like all forms of information. If you don’t morally master money, money will morally master YOU.
Trump has exposed some of the most beautiful science in the universe.
As I have mentioned in previous posts. The old fasting doctors, late 1800’s just put patients on water and let the body go to work on healing. They had a lot of success. But because of the money factor they were run out of town. Medicines for the majority of so called issues are masks, not solutions.
IF I get ChiCom-19, my first question is, is HCQ /Zpak available? then is there some over riding reason I don’t want to take HCQ/Zpak. Knowing my ticker is strong, it is, and I have taken anti maria drugs in the Navy, granted a lower dose, I am not hesitant.
There is zero chance I want to be even considered a candidate for a ventilator. Smacks of either game in the last two minutes or lung damage. No thank you.
Sadly, being in NV, I would have to be an inpatient to get HCQ/Zpaks. I would prevail.
Refuse the vent upon admission to get on the drugs. Do that early and the numbskull docs will have to comply early b/c they then know that you are a bad stat when you refuse the vent later.
FORCE THEIR HAND EARLY.
The vent will kill you, according to Zelenko, but many docs don’t know that.
OH yea. There is ZERO chance this fool would opt for a ventilator.
IF diagnosed positive ChiCom-19, back to my post above…demanding HCQ/Zpak and Zinc.
They can skip whatever damn tests, I am all in on HCQ/Zpak and zinc.
Yes, you do NOT want the vent, or to be intubated for that matter. I’ve known one person out of a number who submitted to that treatment who actually survived. One guy was perfectly healthy other than a cold that went into pneumonia. He submitted to intubation and was dead a month later. One of the most professional mentors I’ve ever run across and someone sorely missed by the organization he managed.
POTUS says try it. aka the drug
Difficult week.
Good job USA with distancing.
Like how positive both POTUS and VP are
Every time he got a chance after Dr. Fauci finished he’d bring it up like clockwork.
Put down the media LOL
“Oh this is so typical of you. So negative”
He calls it a war…true
Just checking…
April 1…..4/1…..was supposed to be the start date of a Q operation, was it not?
Perhaps it was…lot of military presence both domestic and and abroad. Not something one would necessarily advertise.
Was that the day they called out Maduro?
can’t recall. Seem to remember there was supposed to be a start date in early April for something that was all related to some Q posts.
April 1 is the date we are all assuming. The operation against the drug cartels was announced, and there’s been a handful of claims of first hand accounts of the kids being pulled out of the tunnels from health care providers. If there were more, I would doubt the veracity. Single people making a claim…that’s different. There have been less than five and they are not coordinated in any way I can tell.
Discssing the stats and graphs again. Being Very Clear that we will approach peak in various communities of new diagnosed cases and explaining that the deaths will continue to increase even after cases are newly diagnosed cases begin to decline because the deaths lag – takes time to pass away or recovery.
President Trump again emphasizing the low rate of success of being on a ventilator. A High death rate of anyone put on a ventaltor. Last ditch effort.
Right now 8,377 deaths/14,686 recovered here in US of cases confirmed via testing.
He emphasizes Again the Trump Treatment. He says using this widely is Much more than a Game Changer as it is just a amazing to see the improvement.
THIS is a place to spend our Time to help bust through the Fake News to SAVE lives with President Trump’s message.
AGAIN – they are emphasizing following the guidelines to save lives….its not scheme or a conspiracy – they are saving lives. This virus is serious and President Trump is not trying to trick you or oppress you. Trust Trump.
So much information in these pressers and the info Is Serious as this is a Serious, awfu thing for us as a nation to go through. And yet so much encouragment. Have to accept the reality of the situation and then the reality isn’t bad news, it just facts. Can then move on to focus on so much good news and encouragement.
We have been attacked and the attack is real, the virus is real, the threat of fast growth and widespsread illness + an overwhelmed medical system is Real. Trust Trump.
“ Right now 8,377 deaths/14,686 recovered here in US of cases confirmed via testing.”
Wait…..what?!
That’s a 57% mortality rate, just using those two numbers.
I read it as 36% of total (8377 + 14686), but yeah. WAY too high.
(sigh)
yep. you’re right. embarrassing. 😬
Division is everybody’s problem! Not admitting how long it took me to spot it! 😀
Worldwide it’s about 20.8%.
Great! But now – what exactly are the two numbers that yield .208? The numerator is dead people, the denominator is dead plus recovered. So the question is, HOW WAS THIS GROUP SELECTED? What group is it?
Is it people who were tested and found positive? People who presented clinically?
People who had it in hospitals?
This is the key to understanding why the number is so large.
Probably not everyone who is hospitalized is put on a ventilator. You need to know the rate of people in ICU on ventilators to get the real numbers.
Yep. That number needs to be posted.
Multiple times over the last several weeks I have posted something, someone asks about it, I post an explanation and then the person gets ugly with me for merely posting an explanation. Example: last Sunday I posted TN #s, was asked source, was asked for explanation and then was ridiculed for spending my time answering the questions v. being with my family outside in the beautiful weather. SMH
Just the facts. I have posted about this multiple times before so I am sure you don’t want me to explain yet again so I won’t … unless you ask…MUCH better ways to spend my time than explaining only to be attacked.
argue with the facts here: worldometers dot info/coronavirus/country/us/
Humor break, might as well post here…
https://ifunny.co/picture/aEK2T0SY7
Totally understood. A / B = C and OMG here we go again.
In looking at a survey of sites with stats, I don’t know that any of the numbers are accurate. Especially if the hospitals are classifying just about all deaths of COVID-19 positive people due to the disease ignoring any other issues the patient might have.
CDC Tells Hospitals To List COVID as Cause of Death Even if You’re Just Assuming or It Only Contributed
https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostSideSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
“Desperately trying to cover their asses” is how I read that one!!!
I do trust Trump, IMPLICITLT. I do NOT trust Dr Doom or Lady Deathstrikke and their models and projections, AND those that tout them. I think Trump is FINALLY starting to see the models are NOT accurate, not even CLOSE, not even in NY. The model projection pumpers will SOON be out of a job.
PT will be done with all this crap shortly after Easter weekend. That is why he pushed the HCQ so hard today. He wants it administered. If they do, the numbers will drop like a rock this week. He knows.
He repeatedly emphasized today that we have to get over this and get the country running and back to work again. That is what we needed to hear. Conservative pundits have been alarmed about the economy and people’s personal situations. Pres. Trump knows all this. He is having to balance everything. I highly doubt that we will go all the way through April with the sheltering in place.
The press are doing their damned best to try to extend the hysteria, but it’s going to come to an end soon.
We have to have the proper weapons, however. The fake news will desperately try to make Trump look like a bad guy for “ending socialism”, but EXPECT IT. We have to be able to keep them from re-igniting the flames without catching them IN THE ACT fire-starting, which will ENRAGE America against them.
Agreed, he needs to FIRE Dr Doom and Lady Deathstrike NOW, go with some NEW blood
With about 285,000 known active cases in the US, and 29,000,000 doses on hand, we have over 10 times the amount required to give every identified case a regimen of 10 HCQ doses, 200mg twice a day for 5 days. And there’s more being made in the pipeline.
There is no shortage. All the limits are total evil B.S. ! ! !
No need for people to die for Bill Gates to live in style.
“I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.”
So, if the US population, at least as far as we know not counting the illegal aliens, is somewhere between 325,000,000 people and 330,000,000 people, then the number of KNOWN cases of this virus – active, recovered and deceased – is less than 1% of the overall number of people living in these 50 states.
Yes, the percentage is MUCH higher in certain hot spots, but over all less than 1% of the population is sick with as far as we know and the rest of us are trying our darndest not to get it.
BINGO. Even NY is UNDER the projections of Dr Doom. and they are the WORST. Everywhere else is like .000002 of a percent. And that is just the KNOWN cases, if there are, as I suspect more cases, and more that recovered, that number will be infinitesimal. At SOME point, people will wake up to the fact that you have more chance of being struck by space junk or a meteor and dying than you do this. 10 X the regular flu my ASS. 10 times the HYPE.
We’re closing in on 1% here in the STL metro, but the higher numbers are concentrated in specific areas. I live south and east of the worst of the numbers.
But still, it’s not nearly as prevalent as the officials want us to believe and there is no reason to close the big parks where spreading out is easy, not to mention the cultural institutions that we all love here. I can understand the Zoo and the Science Center where kids tend to touch EVERYthing, but the Art Museum and the Botanical Garden, this time of year the visitors are largely adults and there’s plenty of room to spread out. Especially the Garden. It’s 72 acres of pretty much open space with lovely culturally themed gardens. The Temperate House, Climetron (tropical garden), and Linnean House (cactus, camillias) could all be closed, and still there’s room for social distancing.
If the azaleas are spectacular this year, there WILL be anarchy in these parts.
There is NO reason to close things OUTSIDE in the OPEN air….NONE. This virus DIES instantly in sunlight.
Our parks and open spaces here are maintained well, and are quite lovely and ALWAYS full of people in good weather. To see them empty right now is just sad.
This was systematic. Take away our leisure in sports, and now even walks in the park. Take awy theme parks, concerts, cookouts, fish fries, Trump rallies, and any other leisure activity.
Scare us to death, do not even let us shop at a mall.
Make NO mistake, this is NOT social distancing. It is social ISOLATION.
Isolated people especially scared ones are depressed, and EASILY manipulated. That was the POINT. Cant work, cant play, just sit and watch our country and freedom dissolve. WILLINGLY.
Those that perpetuated this fraud MUST PAY, and pay the ULTIMATE price, not just ostracization and fired.
Notice how now they extend more and more, even to the OUTSIDE. Time to END the farce.
WHAT???
When I see and hear the media it reminds me of Rev. Moody after he preached on a Sunday. A women approached the good Rev and said “I did not like your sermon” Rev M. replied ” neither did I.” He then ask the woman “how do you do your sermons?” She answered ” I do not do sermons” Moody then said ” in that case I like my sermon better.”
Until the Media critiques of the President do his job better they need to support the effort.
POTUS did well as he always does. I am so proud of him and he knows more than he lets on.
ACTUALLY, THE BEST TACTIC would be to get your doctor to prescribe Malaria drugs, plus the zinc as a prophylactic.
Or stay home and away from everyone.
GA/FL I think so too. The doctor neds to be prepared to prescribe what the patient needs.
…AND maybe add Quercetin as a buffer to ease the side effects of the Hydroxychloroquin.
Aubergine’s information about Quercetin here: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/04/04/20200404-coronacrisis-china-virus-daily-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-452109
the former, NOT the latter!
Kind of comforting to know we have an ER doc living next door!
Pray he/she stays well!
“BUH BUH BUH BUH BUH….MUH VACCINE!!!”
-Bill Gates
The doctors are more than willing to give you the prescription, that is not the problem. Not all pharmacies are being re-supplied. SNS has had the medicine, and despite what was said at the presser today, the medicine is not being distributed. Our representative and Dept of Health are working on it, and a letter is being drafted. Monday’s phone calls should be interesting!
There are over the counter quinine pills sold for leg cramps/restless legs. And there’s always tonic water – which helped Wolfie’s symptoms.
More hopeful news on a treatment!!
https://twitter.com/alison4trump/status/1246579433839816704?s=21
hmm. anti parasite, just as Chloroquine is. I see a PATTERN. Our esteemed CDC would NOT mislead us and label a parasite a VIRUS would they?
Interesting question.
Another thought as we head into mosquito season…malaria? Hmm.
I just looked up malaria, and it actually is a parasitic infection.
Quote from Wikipedia article:
“It is caused by single-celled microorganisms of the Plasmodium group.[2] The disease is most commonly spread by an infected female Anopheles mosquito.[2] The mosquito bite introduces the parasites from the mosquito’s saliva into a person’s blood.”
The parasites are TINY. I wonder if it’s a tiny parasite originating from….. BATS?????? and prefers lungs as a parking spot?
IF corona “virus” is actually a parasitic infection, what good would a vaccine do? Oh, that just opens up a big, dark hole.
Parasites, viruses, bacteria. Things that work with the body’s own defenses are going to likely be multi-target. Microbiologist Judy MiKovitz has already explained this is a virus. I believe she said retrovirus. That means it can insert itself into the DNA in your immune cells directly. These can be dealt with when the immune cell dies. BUT if you get another stimulus to the immune system … like any type of vaccine, or a different infection, those immune cells may start massively replicating –with the bad DNA– spreading the retrovirus quickly through the body.
EXACTLY. I knew that Chloroquine, used for Malaria was for a parasite, read it somewhere. That makes it ODD that it KILLS a “virus” there are supposedly NO know therapeutics or cures for viruses.
Now, combining an antibiotic, Azithromycin, with the anti parasite Chloroquine raised my spidey senses, especially since it worked almost INSTANTLY, AND SO effectively.
NOW, there is supposedly a 2nd antiparasite drug that works almost or AS effective as Chloroquine. One is an outlier, 2 is a coincidence, any MORE and we see a pattern.
IF this “virus” is NOT a virus at ALL, but a parasite that moves to the moist humid dark tissue of the lungs, AND then causes NOT viral pneumonia, but BACTERIAL Pneumonia, we have a HUGE problem.
A parasite would ACT like a virus, in that it COULD live on surfaces for LONG periods, and be transmitted via contact.
NO T the “disease” the people who misrepresented it AS a “disease”
That would mean that they openly LIED about this “disease”. There seems LITTLE chance that they could misdiagnose a PARASITE that causes bacterial pneumonia for a virus that causes viral pneumonia. IE almost NIL.
UNLESS they KNEW it, passed it OFF as a “virus” and HID the fact that it is a parasite.
WHY would they do that? Because, there are NO cures for “viruses” ONLY vaccines, that may or may not work (IE Agenda by Gates, Fauchi, Cabal).
There are 100% antibacterial drugs that are VERY effective against 99% of bacteria, IE there ARE cures. They are PLENTIFUL, CHEAP, and SAFE. Even people allergic to some sulfa drugs STILL have Azithromycin, and others.
There is LITTLE fear over a bacterial disease, people have LONG known of penicillin. There is MASSIVE fear over a virus, because we ALL were told from childhood that viruses MUST run their course because there are NO cures.
A bacterial pneumonia, while BAD, is NOT a death sentence that a viral pneumonia could be. It CAN be treated by massive intravenous antibiotics, moist recover WELL, and QUICKLY. I KNOW, as a child I had Pneumonia twice, and double pneumonia once, all bacterial, I was in the hospital, received “bennet” treatments, and antibiotics, and was out all three times in 5 days or less. I felt better in as little as 2 days, and was discharged in less than a week. This was in the 1970’s people, the early to mid 1970’s.
we are now WAY better staffed, trained, equipped, supplied with WAY more and better antibiotics, than then
I want someone, ANYONE to try a THIRD antiparasite drug on this, and a well known one like the other 2. IF that works as well as Chloroquine and Ivermectin, we HAVE our answer.
There is NO WAY that 3 common antiparasite drugs would be effective at ALL against a “virus” NONE, mathematically IMPOSSIBLE.
If that happens, That means, since they have supposedly “cultured” this “virus” and sequenced it, looked at it under the electron microscopes and all, they are LYING.
That would be INTENTIONALLY letting people die, suffer, and destroy the world economy by BLATANTLY lying and mis labeling a parasite that causes a bacterial lung infection a VIRUS.
There can be ONLY one reason for that, a PLOT to scare America, using REAL death to get us to ONE destroy our economy, and TWO do it WILLINGLY, and THREE make us more susceptible to WANT a “vaccine” made by Gates and his foundation that will do or unleash who knows what, it sure as hell would NOT kill a parasite. So WHAT would it do?
Scary shit. Someone IF this is true, WILL be executed for this fraud.
ABSOLUTELY. And don’t think I wasn’t thinking ALL of the above last night. Talk about P.O. ed!
There are a number of microscopic CV images used for TV news stories in Detroit that appear to show the “virus” in the midst of cellular division, which I thought was impossible…can’t viruses only “reproduce” taking over living cells of hosts. If they can divide on their own then they are “alive” & not viruses.
http://en.protothema.gr/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/micro_main1-870×418.jpg
None of these are the exact images I’ve seen on the news but there are similarities…
I think the top two images I shared above are the same image just cropped & rotated in one…
IF real images, that is another TELL. Viruses DO multiply, but WITHIN the affected cell, then they move to another cell. Parasites, on the other hand “settle” in an affected organ like the lungs, lymph nodes, liver, heart, etc. There they reproduce and feed, destroying the organ.
IF…basically we need to Question Everything that “they” say is “settled science”… 🙂
Oh you will LOVE this check this out…was I right? You BET…we were HAD. Let the projection defenders defend THIS. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-official-imhe-model-coronavirus-used-cdc-just-cut-numbers-half-making-go-along/
This is a great find…going back & changing their data historically is right out of Orwell & reveals that they are anything but transparent…just Wow!
Yep moving the goalposts. ANY time something is THAT wrong on MULTIPLE occasions, you KNOW it is GARBAGE, and should immediately be DICOUNTED out of hand.
The fact that Dr Doom STILL uses this SHOULD speak VOLUMES to HIS veracity and HIS agenda!
If they were being truly scientific they would change their numbers going forward & give detailed supporting data explaining the reasons for the “necessary” changes. Hiding these actions speaks of duplicity, fraud, &/or incompetence…
Can I buy all three! Look, EVIL statistics like Global warming for example, are written into models of people with an inherent BIAS. They then SKEW the numbers or write the model to point out that bias.
When a model is THAT far off on MULTIPLE occasions, and the need to keep revising it DOWN, that reveals their ORIGINAL intent, which is what you said, duplicity, fraud, and NOT incompetence, but MALICE!
It took EFFORT and PLANNING to skew the numbers THAT far, so far a factor of 50 or more. NOT 50%, 50X. That is not a simple incompetence error, misplaced decimal, or added zero. that is INTENTIONAL, and WELL thought out AGENDA driven MALICE!
It sure looks that way. Like Wolfie says Fake Science!
NO worse than FAKE. MANIPULATED to an AGENDA. Fake could have done no harm. Manipulated to an OBIOUS agenda has done MASSIVE harm.
Probably goes back quite a while, especially under aka Obama’s usurpation…
Oh, I’ve got one that can SEE! Yep, THIS event was MEANT to finish us ALL off. Complete loss of freedom for those that survived, with a mandatory RFID chip, and vaccine profile.
MASSIVE destruction of the service economy IE self employed. Just like the left TRYING at the same time to OUTLAW 1099 sub contractors. Everyone MISSED that because of Covid 19.
Then ALL the MASSIVE unemployed would be on food stamps, and GOVT doles. They would be more tractable and WILLINGLY give up more and more freedoms to stay “alive” and “safe”
Socialism would have been HERE and the Constitution would have DIED, along with America. But see, Hillary did NOT win, and SHE is not there to finish us off after Obama weakened us. Trump is FIGHTING and winning, he ALREADY undid MOST of the damage Obama did.
So, the Cabal went ahjead with the plan to finish us off, HOPING that it would end Trump, and weaken US enough to have the NEXT Cabal in line to take back over for Hillary, and FINISH Obama’s agenda.
Imagine WHER we would be without 3 plus years of Trump GAINS. Imagine where the economy would be IF we kept Obama’s new norm. NAFTA was still in effect, Paris Climate accord signed, TPP signed, UN overseeing our laws, borders, and law. Oil dependent on the ME and Iran. Wars raging, basically ARMEGEDDON.
They NEVER though she would lose, thank God she did.
“They NEVER though she would lose, thank God she did.” Amen…if she would only just go quietly into the night, since darkness is her preferred domain…
I wish, hopefully her day will come here on Earth. We KNOW her day will come before God.
Yes…His judgement won’t be missed by any of us…
Amen!
Malaria is parasitic, which is one the reason it’s so, well, annoying.
It used to be present in the U.S. but we had invented a MIRACLE TREATMENT that was shockingly effective at curbing the spread of malaria and other mosquito-borne illnesses.
It was TOO GOOD, so they send Rachel Carson to lie and kill DDT.
Someday, we will get our miracle back.
Ivermectin? Good grief, that’s horse wormer.
Dog wormer, too. Heartworms.
Appears to work by being a CHLORIDE ION IONOPHORE. Increases the permeability of cells to chloride ion. Presumably this then interferes with viral replication.
https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00602
Malaria is a parasitic disease, but is often occurs at the same time (co-morbidity) with Dengue Fever which is a viral disease.
What if COVID-19 aka SARS-2 is one of a linked pair of diseases wherein one treatment kills both the virus and the parasite?
Quick ground report before a fight breaks out over eight grade math, and other middle school social issues I’m going to be an adult about and ignore.
Okay, so, had to run to the store, and saw more masks and bandanas serving as them than I have previously. I consider this a sign that people are scared and will follow directions when they perceive they are threatened in some way.
The meat selection was better for beef today than chicken. Most usual offerings were available.
The store chain is putting markers on the floor at checkout for social distance purposes. For the most part people are observing the distance markings. They do as that one member per household do the shopping
The paper products aisle was bare save one 6 pack of TP.
Tonic water was on sale 10 for $10. Imagine that a whole block from a hospital.
On the way home I saw a family on their bikes with masks…uh, yeah, again, this is NOT the Irish Potato Blight. Wearing a mask when not in close contact indoors…well, if it makes you feel better.
In the meantime, I’m getting snotty in dry air, and when the caffeine wears off. It’s serving as a decongestant, believe it or not.
Okay, gotta put the rest of dinner on. Later.
Did you buy the TP?
Did you wear a mask?
No, we’re okay on TP for a couple weeks.
I WILL NOT wear a mask unless threatened with jail. I see it as a dehumanizing campaign and refuse to go along with that. The populace are God’s creation, not cattle.
Just checking about the TP! 😉
Just checking on the mask. I doubt I will be doing this as well
Oh, I want to see that preening ASSHOE, Brian Stelter, in PRISON for his Tokyo Rose act.
https://twitter.com/sistertoldjah/status/1246585321032241155
Whoops – she deleted and re-posted:
ASSHOE is going to EAT HIS WORDS.
BIG!!!
Rosie was incorrect and issued this correction:
How to do a regular mask with a bandana!
Are there any states where we know the HCQ/ZPak/zinc combo is fully available and that the state admin and the medical professionals are enthusiastically endorsing and prescribing it?
I know Oklahoma bought bulk shipments of the medicine and are using a local company to make the pills. Colorado asked for some but the OK governor said after he takes care of his State. Florida also has requested the meds from the Fed stockpile.
PT today pretty much told them all to use it.
The fully available has been the issue.
It has been at SNS. It has not been released for distribution to local pharmacies as of noon today, April 4th.
Dr. Fauci was repeatedly skeptical of hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating the novel coronavirus.
But he wasn’t so skeptical back in 2013.
In fact, Dr. Anthony Fauci CHEERED the use of hydroxychloroquine appeared effective “only in cells in lab dishes” in treatment of against MERS.
That is interesting.
So Dr. Fauci thought a 2013 test in a “lab dish” was particularly encouraging.
But in 2020 after severl successful studies of hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating coronavirus patients he was suspect.
That’s weird?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/wow-dr-fauci-cheered-hydroxychloroquine-success-treating-mers-coronavirus-2013-today-skeptical-weird/?
..and it was financed by his the entity he was the director of
NIH did a study of chloroquine in 2005 against SARS with some success. That is why Fauci is full of shit.
Someone definitely needs to ask Faucci that at the next briefing – maybe that OAN reporter. He needs to start being put on the spot for his many conflicting pronouncements, rather than POTUS getting all the grief.
I am guessing his days at the presser are numbered.
Nah, he needs every opportunity to either:
* Do the right thing, or
* Expose himself and our medical bureaucracy as total liars that do not care about health outcomes.
What counts as a WuFlu death. H/T http://www.iotwreport.com
Rut Roh
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-drags-china-international-court-covid-19-war
India Drags China To International Court For COVID-19 War
As a direct impact of extensive GreatGameIndia reporting on the sinister aspect of Coronavirus being manufactured as a biological weapon, now India has dragged China to international court for waging COVID-19 War. India’s complaint to the United Nations Human Rights Council seeking compensation from China specifically presents as evidence GreatGameIndia‘s report on how Chinese biowarfare agents stole Coronavirus from a Canadian lab and weaponized it at Wuhan Institute of Virology.
India is so freaking smart. It was THEIR scientists who first spotted the fact that ChiCom-19 made an HIV *LEAP* that was not by mere first-order natural evolution. Any fake science “experts” who try to bat that down are going to get CREAMED in a fair court. Very nice. We could be there, too, if not for COMMUNIST FAKE NEWS.
* HIV is one of THE MOST STUDIED viruses in history. We know a ton about it now, so from an academic perspective it is a treasure trove of research opportunity.
* There’s always more money for HIV research, too, so be sure your paper has HIV in the title
* For chimeral approaches to gain of function, HIV is highly advantageous, particular since HIV lacks the necessary R0. But the availability of components for chimera recombination is simply unmatched.
* As a PsyOp it is harder to fine a virus more ph33r3d than HIV. You cannot get more scary to the public than saying HIV is now spread through the air via respiration.
Bill Gates is gonna look purty in the exercise yard at GITMO.
Trump can jump all over this! OH YEAH.
CCP IS ASSHOE!!!
ARE YOU $#!+ING ME?!?!?!??!!!
We’ll give you facemasks, but only if you put your people in the chains of slavery.
DO YOU NEED A BIGGER SMOKING GUN THAT HUAWEI IS A GIANT CCP ASSHOE TRAP?!!?!?!
They deny it but this action makes NO SENSE unless Huawei 5G is a TRAP.
The brazen just oozes out now.
Yes… BRASS B
Gudthots$ BRAZEN.
CHI-COMS!!!
I am guessing that frick and frack will be done in the next two weeks.
It will be a miracle if neither one is in legal jeopardy by the time this is over.
I like Fauci’s honest side when he speaks the truth, but his covering for Gates and vaccines by sending people to DEATH ON VENTS is unseemly as hell.
FDA’s Dr. Stephen Hahn, on Fox Watters, answered questions about HCQ and the official gov’t trials in an understandable and unbiased fashion . . . as opposed to the weasel, Fauci.
Figures that WATTERS would have the good stuff!!!
When Fauci had the opportunity to tell the truth…he didn’t.
In the early days of this thing, he was less than truthful.
He is *being made* to tell the truth now.
And it is only because we’ve dug and searched for the truth ourselves, that we know when he is saying truthful things.
Yup.
You know what is interesting? The NEWS used to perform that function. The NEWS made people accountable to the TRUTH.
Now? The FAKE NEWS makes people accountable to SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS.
Trump is forcing it.
Wolfie, this is the clip of Bannon on Bartiromo’s show this morning.
I kept thinking you’d be cheering Bannon on if you were watching. https://twitter.com/karluskap/status/1246812125294665728?s=21
well somebody’s got to prop up the DemCom strategy for keeping the nation indoors until after the elections..Pelosi is ready with her 2billion bill for mail in voting.
They really need some solid hysteria and panic to nix Trump rallies too
i’m thinking some MAGA masks in bright red would be a hit!
good idea!!!!!!
It is very important right now to send a message to China that half of America is ready to knuckle down and do what it takes to put the entire CCP behind bars waiting for lethal injections by their own Chinese people. That’s where I’m headed. Trump can play good cop with these murderers all he wants. WOLF MOON is done with CHYYYNNAA. The CCP is HISTORY.
They try this shit again, it will be time to immediately unleash hell on the CCP.
They need weapons? SIGN ME UP.
Meanwhile, we will have a nice election and Chloroquine Pelosi and Adam Antimalarials In October can SHUT THE FUCK UP until they go to jail.
LOL..make is so Wolfmoon !
I didn’t think I could possibly despise China more after their lethal synthetic drugs slammed into the country ..but..yep I can. Evil bastids
My county just mandated all people in public must cover their faces the entire time. Church services, even drive up are banned. No gatherings of any kind indoors or outside with anyone except the people you live with, exceptions are gas stations, dr office but have to have separation. The health dictator says law enforcement will back them up….we will see about that. There are no laws being broken…only dictats.
Maybe not in your area, maybe youre not getting this treatment, but this is real HERE.
Kiddo is supposed to start at home school on monday. I may not be able to get his packet of work.
The next step they will take is we cannot leave our homes at all.
I guess an Diego County will be next…ugh
Likely.
I wish I had a big freezer and the cash to have bought whatever i wanted for a long time. Lord please let this month be the end of it.
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
Yep….