Dear KMAG: 20201213 Open Topic

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The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.


It’s time to replace
a failed and CORRUPT political establishment
with a new government
controlled by you, the American People.
~ Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.


On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


As Christmas approaches, once again the prominent parts of the Christmas story take front and center: the visit of the angel Gabriel, Mary’s visit to Elizabeth, the trip to Bethlehem, nowhere to stay, the manger, the host of angels, the shepherds and their visit to the manger, Simeon and Anna, the star, the wise men, the escape to Egypt, the return to Israel and then to Nazareth.

A part of the Christmas story I think could stand a closer examination is Joseph, who comes to prominence as the husband of Mary. I think his character and actions should be front and center as a role model for a host of Christians.

The Bible doesn’t have a lot to say about Joseph, but what it does say speaks volumes.

The first is that Joseph was a righteous man. By this I take it that Joseph did all that was required, and perhaps more, by the Jewish religious law of the time. That he was righteous, to me, means his actions were from his heart . . . not just actions to satisfy some religious requirement.

Joseph obeyed God. Through dreams, God told Joseph that he should
1. Take Mary as his wife.
2. Flee with Mary and Jesus to Egypt.
3. Return from Egypt.
4. Beware of Archelaus (so he went to Nazareth)

Joseph had no questions, didn’t ask for a sign, and didn’t object. He simply believed and obeyed – and that obedience involved traveling with Mary . . . to Bethlehem, to Egypt, back to Israel and then to Nazareth.

Other than those instances, Joseph worked, apparently quietly, as a carpenter, raising Jesus and his brothers and sisters and, also apparently, dying just 30 years or less later.

So, Joseph was a righteous man . . . that is a very big pole in the tent. That means Joseph was doing God’s will . . . doing what’s pleasing to God.

When we trust Jesus as our Savior, God sees our faith as righteousness.

2 Corinthians 5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

1 Corinthians 1:30 But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,

When God looks at us, He sees Christ’s righteousness . . . but that doesn’t mean we can rest on our laurels. We are still called to “Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect.” (Matthew 5:48) This is an impossible task for us, but it, nevertheless, with the help of the Holy Spirit, is our goal.

Joseph listened to God and then did what God said. God speaks primarily to us through His Word, and by reading God’s Word we are “listening” to Him. It is now up to us, with help from the Holy Spirit, to put what God tells us into action.

Joseph’s profession was that of a carpenter. And He, apparently, did his work in such a manner that it was pleasing to God. Our work, too, falls under God’s will.

As Bondservants in Christ, “whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ. ” Colossians 3:23-24

1 Corinthians 4:10-11 But we urge you, brethren, that you increase [your love] more and more; that you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own affairs, and to work with your own hands . . .

Strive for righteousness, read God’s Word and act on it, lead a quiet life, mind your own affairs, and do your work as to the Lord. I would say that Joseph has given us quite a role model to follow.

We should keep Joseph well in mind as we get caught up in the “Be all you can be” and even the “Be Best” of the frenetic lifestyle that is pushed our way these days.

Perhaps “Be still and know that I am God” should be first in our minds these days . . . particularly in these days.

And, never ever forget that:
1. We are passing through a temporary kingdom on the way to an eternal kingdom.
2. GOD WINS ! ! !

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Valerie Curren

There is ZERO reason to ever accept Beijing Biden as the winner. NONE. Can’t happen. Won’t condone fraud.

Before 20 January gets here, Beijing Biden will be cast aside as just another failed useful idiot.

Hopefully it’ll happen soon. Like this coming week. One thing for sure, President Trump WILL deliver the solution at the right time.

Until then, we simply see more and more of our corrupt inept government exposed.

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Valerie Curren

Would be great to have things known For Sure Before Christmas, for peace of mind & passing info on to the “normies” 🙂


Okay, so I really want to get onboard with the whole Civil War narrative that everybody loves so much.

So when I grab ol’ Bessie and charge out into the street and start firing randomly, is there anyone in particular I should aim at?

Or is the idea in this Civil War to just shoot anything that moves?

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Valerie Curren

Probably anything that moves to take your, or someone else’s, freedom…at this point that is more metaphorical than actual, or so it seems to me!


“Probably anything that moves to take your, or someone else’s, freedom…”


In that case, wouldn’t we be better off inside our homes, using our home for cover?

Peering out the windows, watching for freedom-takers through a rifle scope?

Assuming of course that we know what freedom-takers look like, and can distinguish them from friendlies?

That seems like a better strategy than wandering around the street, especially if other civil warriors are wandering around the street too, and nobody knows whose side anybody is on — because there are no defined sides, and nobody has a uniform.

Or if nobody else is wandering around out in the street, and you are, then you’re a pretty easy target for all the other people secured in their homes, watching you through a rifle scope.

This civil warrin’ stuff is hard… 😁

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Valerie Curren

I’m not Advocating the “civil war” per se, though I do believe we have been in an Ideological “civil war” for generations.

We are now in a near overt war with our Chi-Com owned politicos & “pillars” of society like media, academia, corporations, etc.

We are in an asymmetrical war with China, & it is being revealed how many Domestic Enemies we actually have within our gates.

So far most of us are staying in the battlefield of “the pen is mightier than the sword” & there are plenty of us who will never pick up our 2nd amendment weaponry to turn that into a battlefield soaked with Literal blood. We are soaking a different battlefield w/ the blood (sweat & tears) of patriots & tyrants!

Let us pray that the battlefields remain largely w/in the realms of a “peaceable” society. That being said that doesn’t include acquiescing to tyranny & unconstitutional governance. We are walking a fine line w/ prayerful “patience” as we Praise the Lord & Pass the Ammunition!



Yes, I agree with you very much, but many people are talking about an inevitable ‘civil war’ and they mean exactly that, taking up arms and fighting… somebody… and I just keep wondering exactly how that would work, and nobody can explain it to me 😁

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Valerie Curren

There can’t be a physical separation like North vs. South now as we are too intermixed but there could be Free America zones, like SD & certain counties/communities refusing to “enforce” unlawful, unconstitutional, “color of law” tyrannical edicts. It leaves patriots in deep blue regions of despotism (like here in Michigan) in a tough spot though!


“There can’t be a physical separation like North vs. South now as we are too intermixed”


Yep, that’s definitely one of the problems. There is no line (like a Mason-Dixon line) dividing the sides, so no land to take, and no land to defend.

And no uniforms, so you have no way of knowing who is a friend and who is a foe.

And no leaders, or supply lines, or any of the other obvious necessities of war (civil or otherwise).

But many people are apparently stressed out of their minds, and getting themselves all worked up about the inevitability of a ‘civil war’, and I keep trying to understand how that would look, how it could happen, and I just don’t see it.

Valerie Curren

There are local pockets of battle zones, like when Antifa &/or BLM comes to town & if they migrate from destroyed already “urban” areas into suburban or rural zones…We’ve still gotta keep our powder dry & mostly use the rifles from home, like you stated earlier.

Wolf Moon

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Valerie Curren
Wolf Moon

If that “molecular clamp” is a euphemism for a reverse transcriptase used for INTENTIONAL GENETIC INCORPORATION, OR if it’s a euphemism for the HIV-like segments of the spike protein which everybody in Fauci-land was DENYING……

We need to press them for the EXACT CONTENTS.

Valerie Curren

I’ll take your word for it! someone else said that in questioning their doctors about risks on vaccines the doctors hadn’t read the package inserts w/ detailed risk factors spelled out (assuming that they’d actually include the info)…hmmm!

Wolf Moon

There are MANY good reasons to either take or not take the vaccine. People need to be INFORMED and SKEPTICAL.

Valerie Curren

Yes. perhaps you want to re-visit your vaccine post & update it w/ new info & your most recent thinking on the vaccine, especially if you have specific info/concerns on the ones being passed around in the states. Pfizer &/or Moderna I believe.

Wolf Moon

Yes, my thinking has changed since learning about the whistleblower in Moderna.

Valerie Curren

I’m sure we’d all appreciate your insights!!!

Deplorable Patriot

And it needs to be shouted from the rooftops that this is the very first product of any sort Moderna has taken to market.

This is all such a…there’s gotta be a word for this. Hoax, Trojan Horse, killing machine all rolled into one. It’s really holocaustic in the base meaning of the word “the destruction or slaughter on a mass scale” before it became a historic event.


A quick site question…I notice notifications for replies to a comment pop off no matter where I am online, meaning when I’m not here at QTree. How does it do that?


You’ve given the site (or wordpress) permission to use your Browser for “offline” notifications. You can go into your Browser settings and change permissions to block them.


Oh man..Browser settings, change permission. Okay will try and thank you very much. I still haven’t been able to stop the email notifications but guess I’ll live with it


I regret that this is not a simple process for you to remove these annoyances.


. 🎼 where have all the [cut] Chipmunks gone…long time passing
Where have all the chipmunks gone…long time ago…
….When will they ever learn? When will they e…ever learn… 🎼 

Seriously though….no more cute chipmunk category? Every chipmunk now a fox?


It only takes 100 comments to become a fox.


so the chipmunk category is still there?

come to timmy

Let’s see.

come to timmy

Well this is a surprise. No way I made 100 comments already?


yes. Look at people that infrequently post or “newbies”.


Fr. Altman reflects on election results: ‘Don’t give up’


Barr is out.

Gone before Christmas.

Door. Ass.


Proof Barr was cabal, imho.



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