Dear KAG: 20201229 Open Thread

Cover image: Washington’s Headquarters, artist unknown.

At this point, there is so much disinformation out there, other than the House of Representatives actually voting to override a veto – the president is making them own their over spending – who knows what’s real and what isn’t.

Just don’t let it stop you from heading to Washington on January 6 if you have plans to go.

The rest of us will hold down the fort here.

And just a little pick me up for the troops who have had long days this Holiday season.

And a reminder to take the pledge:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

And now for the nitty gritty of the Q Tree 5 minute, stand up, Tuesday morning meeting version of the Daily Thread.


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MATTHEW 2:13-18

13Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Rise, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there till I tell you; for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.” 14And he rose and took the child and his mother by night, and departed to Egypt, 15and remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfil what the Lord had spoken by the prophet, “Out of Egypt have I called my son.” 16Then Herod, when he saw that he had been tricked by the wise men, was in a furious rage, and he sent and killed all the male children in Bethlehem and in all that region who were two years old or under, according to the time which he had ascertained from the wise men. 17Then was fulfilled what was spoken by the prophet Jeremiah: 18“A voice was heard in Ramah, wailing and loud lamentation, Rachel weeping for her children; she refused to be consoled, because they were no more.”

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I just had these thoughts on Disqus, on this article:

St. Louis Woman Beats Sheriff’s Deputy with Her Own Baton After She is Told to Put on a Mask

By Jim Hoft

Published December 28, 2020 at 10:15pm


Wolf Moon  25 minutes ago

The CCP-DNC mask strategy was a very cunning way to drive a wedge between law enforcement and those who have traditionally supported NORMAL law enforcement.

My advice to LE is to assume people who don’t wear masks are exercising proper judgment. Many of us are COVID recoverees, COPD patients, asthmatics, people with low O2, etc. Tell the Karens to assume that people know whether or not they should wear a mask.

As a recoveree, I’m almost certainly IMMUNE. I wear a ridiculous face shield instead of a mask, when I am forced to wear something, because shields don’t make me pass out from hypoxia, which I can MEASURE when I wear a mask. I was so happy that vaccinated gal passed out on TV – finally people can see “mask-brain” which afflicts anybody with poor oxygenation when they wear an idiot mask.

I have permanent shortness of breath now. It is CRUEL to force people like me to wear a mask. I don’t even need to wear a stupid face shield, but I do just for these socialists.

I challenge Ohio’s governor Mike DeWine to RESCIND his mandate back to voluntary. It is the ONLY WAY he won’t be primaried out the wazoo by Jim Renacci (“Ohio First”).

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Expecting rational thought from irrational people is, itself, a mental disturbance. Watch out for the slippery spots!

Said lovingly with immense appreciation for this place.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

True. But we are rebuilding the rational side. So we hope for some failure of that realism! 😉
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I stand modified.


I really like that state seal. Reminds me of our past when that wasn’t controversial. I’m surprised the communists haven’t tried to have it removed.


The Santa Barbara County Courthouse — a beautiful civic building — has engraved stone over its central archway that says, “Dios nos dio los campos. El arte humana edificó ciudades.”

Roughly, this is “God gave us the lands. The art of man has raised cities.”

This may seem a bit full-of-itself, but the previous courthouse had been destroyed in an earthquake in 1925 and this courthouse was built in 1929. I suspect their meaning was a bit more nuanced.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They will if they take the Governor’s office! And they’ve already had BLM do their incantations RIGHT ON THAT SEAL.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s true. Common sense is not very common. Neither is thinking or researching ahead.


I am currently visiting family in the Seattle area. A whole different vibe than Texas.

Here they are fanatical about proper placement of the muzzle. Here they count how many go in and out the grocery store and you wait if they are “at capacity.”

I thought Texas was bad because a lot of people are still wearing the mask. But a lot aren’t. And those who do, wear them under the nose, even under the chin and no one cares if you wear one except a few government offices and employees..

Mt. Rainier is awesome, though.

Could use a few prayers that my grand baby is born in the next few days. Any time now. Thank you in advance. Prayer works.


I’ll pray for you and your family’s health and safety!!

and congrats on being a grandmother again!!


Thank you, Pat. Hoping the baby comes in time for us to see him. We are leaving for DC on the 4th.

It is all the Lord’s timing.


i will keep you in my prayers!! travel safe…stay safe!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy


Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If the baby is late, don’t feel pressured to go to DC by any of us. Your staying with family may be more important in the bigger scheme of things – perhaps even in winning our fight. Do what God tells you, whatever that is!


Thank you, Wolf. I think the timing will work out, though. I just have a feeling. 😁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good! 😀 I can believe it!!!


Totally agree with your comment, Wolf. Without a face shield, I wouldn’t be able to get groceries. I would pass out in about 5 minutes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! 30 minutes of grocery shopping was impossible with the mask. Face shields are awesome. And the “dork factor” virtue signal works everywhere EXCEPT the doctor’s office, where they force the stupid masks on everybody anyway. Ultimate irony. The ONE PLACE that might get it, doesn’t!


My friend has noticed that their breathing is much worse after a shower. The steam perhaps. Anyone else notice that? Trying to put the pieces together so that they can conquer this and put it behind them.

Gail Combs

When the air is moist there is less O2 in each breath because there are additional water molecules.

….The amount of water vapor in the air also effects the density. Water vapor is a relatively light gas when compared to diatomic Oxygen and diatomic Nitrogen. Thus, when water vapor increases, the amount of Oxygen and Nitrogen decrease per unit volume and thus density decreases because mass is decreasing….

Effect on your body:

The effect of humidity on the lungs

He began by telling me about humidity. That breathing in humid air activates nerves in your lungs that narrow and tighten your airways.

He referred to humidity as water content (makes sense) and oxygen as partial pressure. (He’s an engineer. They think differently from me and you – lol.)

The amount of water content in the air has an incredible impact on the concentration of oxygen. As water content increases, it reduces the partial pressure in the air and, thus, our lungs are scrambling to find that oxygen.

But what we’re gulping is largely H20.

Pretty simple, right?

Heat on the lungs of a COPD patient

Charlie explained the effects of heat on the lungs of a COPD patient (like me).

“Extreme hot or cold conditions stress the entire body. In an effort to maintain constant body temperature (98.6 degrees Fahrenheit), you expend additional energy to warm or cool your body.”

“This additional energy also increases the amount oxygen your body is using.”

“Since you are using more oxygen, this may further deplete your blood oxygen levels and increase your sensation of shortness of breath.”

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Wow – thank you VERY much.
This confirms and explains my friend’s pattern of good days and bad breathing days. Tremendous thank you as very appreciative and genuinely grateful for this help to send them.

Same with humidity in warm weather, etc., I suppose.

what is hope/helpful for them to move past this stage/heal from this damage? I don’t sign in and don’t have a “bell” option on this post but will leave it open to come back to it.

China is such an A****** as STeve would say

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Wasn’t even two weeks into the lock downs and masks that i personally witnessed an 80 plus year old women pass out due to the affects of having to wear a mask.
Times I’m not sure I will make it to the exit before I do, Yes if I think no one is around I pull it out, to get some air.
H3LL current mask protocol of even the most ardent pro-COVID mandate followers is skewed. I would bet my bottom dollar that not even 10% of the ardent pro-COVID mandate supporters comes even close to being proper, much less protective.

Deplorable Patriot

This is why my mask doesn’t fit right and I cheat the method as often as possible. Even last night at Garden Glow at the Missouri Botanical Garden it was askew. A lot of people were walking around with them pulled down including my 8-year old nephew.

I mean, we were outside and you could take it off to pose for pictures, so what’s the point?


I am shocked at the amount of people who are wearing the mask outside and in their cars. No one else around.

My only consolation is that these people will be easily led when the authority changes to patriots.

Deplorable Patriot

Hopefully. I’m not confident about that, though, given the number who are brainwashed against true patriotism.


You may be right.


Like I said elsewhere, I am one of those guilty of wearing it in the car.
Not on purpose and it ticks the H3LL out me when I realize I still have it out, When I need it the next time I usually have to go looking for it in the backseat area where I angrily tossed it.




Wolfie–Your post reminded me.(video is a hard watch. Yet people keep posting it, for which I am glad. We need to see what is actually happening out there. )
Strangely that there is hardly anything in the media if anything about these types of escalating deaths, or rather suicides, Teen suicides have more than doubled due to the virus lock downs, school shut downs and masks. Young people that should have 50 60 or even more years ahead of them.
At 71 i do feel I can say this..This part I cannot understand, nor will I ever be able to! We are sacrificing the mental and emotional health of our youth, and overwhemiingly their actual lives and . FOR WHAT.
We are supposedly trying to save our elderly, you know the ones like me and the ones even older. You know the ones that have had a full life, with many having already lived way past the 78-81 year old life span of an average American, If we the elderly are so worried about dying, then it is us that should stay in. But actually that brings up another issue, of why we are so intent on saving their lives, for a life of isolation with NO family contact. That in itself was already a killer before the pandemic crap, and now it is even worse.
Mental health cases have tripled, and suicides have more than doubled. Mental health providers and facilities are so booked up that there is an over two month waiting list in many areas. On top of that what was the emotional backup for many has been closed down Yes the pastors are still around sort of, but these same pastors knew how to read people on Sunday and take them aside to talk to them. Not any more for they are not allowed to have people sit inside the church to listen, to talk and to socialize. .

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The CCP and the DNC have forced INSANITY on everybody.


trying to dehumanize us while programming us into helpless infantile zombies.

100% manipulation.


Not quite everybody. Wifey & I haven’t worn masks since this started. In PA where we live, if you have a medical excuse, you can’t be forced to wear one, & stores must allow you in without a mask. At first, they would attack you, but one grocery store chain (Giant Eagle) was so bad that they now have 32 lawsuits pending. So, we have medical excuses now wherever we go. I have been accosted by shoppers though. I whip out my phone & start videoing them. That usually stops them right away. I refuse to be used as a tool for our prog Gov. (Wolf) to use against President Trump. I also carry high quality pepper spray at all times. The kind with CS added. I have a large can of bear spray in the car for Andy Tifa if necessary. Um, along with something else. We live our lives as normal as possible in this Soviet occupied state of PA. And push back, hard, at anyone who gives us a bad time.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sorry you got caught in the bin again!


What I’ve noticed is that a lot of “elderly” people aren’t afraid of this virus at all. My 89 year old mother isn’t. I had a heck of a time talking her into taking quercetin and zinc. Nor are other older people that I know. Pneumonia can be a lot deadlier to the elderly. But they don’t walk around terrified that they’re going to get it. Nor do they hang around sick people. It’s just common sense, which we aren’t being allowed to have.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES! We have not reacted RATIONALLY to the virus.

  • protect the highly at risk – let everybody else be free
  • leverage natural immunity among those least at risk
  • eliminate zinc deficiency among the vulnerable
  • eliminate vitamin D3 deficiency among the vulnerable
  • use the risky vaccine on those most at risk FIRST
  • do NOT use the vaccine on those of child-bearing age


This is the work of CCP, through their minions, the DNC.

Deplorable Patriot

The vitamin D deficiency thing I partially blame on medicine in that they’ve made so many people afraid of being in the sun. There’s no better way to get it than 15 minutes of bare skin daily from April-September. The skin is pretty efficient at synthesizing it, and it will be stored in fat for the winter.

Doggone dermatology.


Look at the food pyramid, or whatever it’s called nowadays — it’s tied in to corporate interests and responsible for the majority of diabetes in the US.

It’s not just doggone dermatology, it’s about medicine moving away from a focus on patients (because they’re no longer paying) and toward business and government interests.


Just to be on the safe side I arrange my food into a different geometrical shape at each meal. I’m covered.


you’re a breath of fresh air!

Gail Combs

Yup, my favorite food arrangement.
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look a giant bug has crawled on your plate next to that delicious looking steak!

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Deplorable Patriot

My sister calls them the cockroach of the sea.


that’s what they look like to me!


Me too !

ack !


Sea bugs…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Hmm. I would think that title would go to shrimp, which I do sometimes call “waterbugs” especially around my taxonomy-oriented relatives.

Shrimp that is, much more commonly eaten in my family than crab (which most of us prefer to lobster anyway).

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Deplorable Patriot

They’re all scavengers. They eat trash.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA



I do too !


One of my favorite meals, Gail!!!

If you have not had lobster – you will never know how great they are – Maine Lobster is the greatest!!!! Chicken of the Sea – I love it!!!


Anonymoushorse, I am loving your comments! 💕


Everyone should have a vitamin D blood test.

I spend every day in the summer outside in my garden. I take 5000 i.u. daily in summer and 10000 i.u. daily in winter, to maintain my levels. Otherwise, I am deficient.

Part of this could be how far north I live. The sun isn’t as strong, even in summer. It could be genetic. Who knows? But I get a blood test every year, and my vitamin D is right on target if I take the amounts above. Otherwise, it gets LOW.


can i get any generic vitamin D at a pharmacy??? of is there a type or brand??


There are lots of kinds. I look for vitamins manufactured in the US.



SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You and I are actually in latitudes that get more sun than the tropics, during the summer. But it is spread out over 14 or more hours per day, and yes, it does come through the atmosphere at a slant. On the other hand I have almost a quarter of the atmosphere below me at my elevation, which probably makes up for it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP. Oh, I think the ANTI-SUN stuff was very intentional. VERY.


The literal insanity of this all. (saw below just as I was going to hit return that Wolfie said similar”
I am not afraid, for my Lord has his plans for me Eventually His plans will be for me to join Him, for our earthly body is just a vessel not meant to last forever.
Really floors me why so many are eating it up, and following the politicians over their cliffs. Ask them why and many answer the same, “I don’t want to see my parents or grandparents get COVID and die” Then the kicker is the age of their parents and grandparents…Most answer back with late 70s, in their 80s and some even say in their 90s. If you say anything about no one lives forever you are told you are insensitive and selfish.
Well no earthly body does live forever.


1000x agree. While being on this earth has been an interesting visit, I’m more interested in enjoying eternity.


i said the same to my children…eat right, exercise, find peace, and you still die…it’s part of life.
i couldn’t stop them from taking my 8 year grandchild to Mexico–i thought it was too risky–they decided it wasn’t.
I couldn’t stop my son from ice climbing Mount Washington in January ALONE…it was a risk he was willing to take.
suddenly because I am a diabetic ( well managed, btw) I am unable to make decisions about being around my family for Christmas…

the older people ( we are in our early 60’s) can make their own decisions–if my time is short, then allow me the dignity of choosing how i spend the remaining years.


That is how I feel…it is my life.
How many grandparents are living in isolation deprived of their families, along with creating new memories for their grandchildren.
Can’t help but think of the young children that are so lucky to have great grandparents, yet will never get the chance to create memories with them.
Great grandparents is a luxury no family should ever ignore.!


Linda…true. My church is open, and I have noticed the elderly seem to enjoy hugging and greeting w/o any fear. Perhaps it is bc many have not been around family due to fear.
I do clean up after shopping, when I get back to my car, and I do wash my hands when I get home.
I hate it that we are treated as if we cannot make common sense decisions for ourselves.


A funny thing happened at the store a week ago. A clerk inadvertently touched my hand while passing me my change.

We both looked at each other and smiled.

Human touch. It’s a GOOD THING.

Deplorable Patriot

The elderly that I know other than my parents are paranoid about it. Well, at least they’re all masked up all the time. But they aren’t cowering in their houses, either.


I am one of the elderly that isn’t afraid of dying from this flu virus.its like people are so terrified of dying they are going to extremes to live. When people are that afraid of dying it lets me know that Jesus isn’t in their life. People who push dying way down deep so they don’t have to think about their mortality will die still . I am assured by the Lord that a better place awaits those who follow Jesus,so why be afraid ? This rock is one messed up place.i have almost died several times ,I wasn’t afraid not one time ,I know where I am going . The great separation is upon us.wheat and tares,goats and sheep choose wisely.


Although I thought ;Christ was in my life, it was not really until 2005 that I really accepted Christ as my life not just into my life.It was in 2005 He became all of me
On that day I was no longer afraid of what life would have, the ups, the downs, and the really horrid craziness.. Does not mean I don’t have my times! Times I can cowering under the blanket moments. Oh they sometimes they last more than just a moment or even just a day, but then I peek out and there is His light reminding me of His everlasting love.
Truly believe that God does not mind when we have these times, especially when our faith is solidly en-grained within our heart… Sometimes i imagine Him smiling down at me at these times, knowing that He will be able to put me down so we can walk side by side again talking about my new found lesson about life and Him. Sort of like the poem Footprints.

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I try not to imagine how screwed up these kids are going to be after this ordeal. /shivers at the thought


As I and many of us have said we are not fighting for ourselves necessarily, but the generations of Americans to come.
We want the future generations to still be Americans in a constitutional America. To be Fighting for Americans in the future to still live in a country called America with all the American Constitutions freedoms and rights so many generations have sacrificed and fought for!

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they will be more easily managed by fear.


Or they will be unshakably awake.

Deplorable Patriot

My 11 year old nephew was A BEAR to be around before he went back to school.

Even in my family where we tend to be independent loners for work, etc., we’re feeling it.


Hear it from too many.


I have mentioned the excess deaths in the US multiple times and by igonring them we let the fed gov off the hook for excess suicides, drug overdoses, etc.

Even the CDC admits that 1/3 of our 2020 excess deaths are Not Covid19/Covid19 related complications.

So what are the 1/3 of non covid19 related excess deaths?

From not seeking the usual medical help due to restrictions? From the shutdowns and “mitigations”? Why do we have non covid19 related excess deaths?

Besides covid19, what is killing US citizens at a higher rate that normal? Is the cure worse than the disease?


Strange that over 2020 death toll is almost the same as many years in the last couple of decades, some years 2020 death toll is even lower,


the 2020 death toll is Not lower than other years. It is decidedly higher. This has been a repeated topic here and I have provided the stats and again and again that 2020 death toll is higher than previous years.

If you have actual data (not internet/fb/twitter memes) that shows a lower death rate/lower death totals for 2020, I am interested.

Gail Combs

The CDC no longer shows deaths for 2019 and 2020.

This is from April 2020

These are weekly mortality statistics for the United States from the Centers for Disease Control:
Week                  Number of Deaths 2019          Number of Deaths 2020
1                                 58,291                                          59,087
2                                 58,351                                          59,151
3                                 58,194                                          57,616
4                                 57,837                                          57,000
5                                 58,128                                          56,426
6                                 58,492                                          56,962
7                                 57,917                                          55,981
8                                 57,858                                          55,494
9                                 57,920                                          54,834
10                                 58,490                                          54,157
11                                 57,872                                          52,198
12                                 57,087                                          51,602
13                                 56,672                                          52,285
14                                 56,595                                          49,292
15                                 55,477                                          47,574
Total                            865,181                                        819,659

NOTICE SPIKE from week 10 to 20. (something STINKS!)
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Yes, CDC is still listing deaths and goes back to 2013-14 flu season. I have been comparing for months due to a “study” that was false that spread back in the spring.

Note: the death totals for 2020 will be continue to increase as some death certificates are delayed due to various reasons such as investigations, criminal or otherwise. Example: last night I updated these numbers, checking back to week 40 of 2020 and all weeks had increased by a few hundred to 1-2K. The majority of the reporting is completed 2-3 weeks after the date in question.

One of the reasons so many memes/reports and even the study released and then retracted last spring are wrong is the delay in death counts/reporting.

Example 1: If one were to see any reporting about week 51 of 2020 one ought to immediately see a red flag as the numbers simply are not yet fully, or even partially available.

Example 2: If someone posts about Dec #s at the end of Dec, Instant Big red flag. the #s are simply not available for all of Dec at the end of Dec. The majority of deaths are delayed at least 2-3 weeks from the end date of any given week.

Example 3: if one sees reporting on Jan 1, 2021 regarding death totals for 2020, immediate red flag as majority of Dec #s will not yet be avilable and therefore early 2021 comparisons of 2020 to previous years will have the 2020 death statss grossly under reported/represented.

As can be seen below, we have had excess deaths every week since week 26 (week 26 the arbitary week I began keeping tabs).

wk 26: 58,247   52,209
wk 27: 59,556   52,344
wk 28: 61,589   51,931
wk 29: 62,785   51,649
wk 30: 63,883   51,662
wk 31: 63,873   51,410
wk 32: 63,236   51,747
wk 33: 63,075   51,023
wk 34: 61,862   51,022
wk 35: 60,168   51,162
wk 36: 58,706   51,836     
wk 37: 57,432   51,633
wk 38: 57,104   51,757
wk 39: 57,936   52,757
wk 40: 57,667   52,564
wk 41: 59,097   53,090
wk 42: 57,489   54,338
wk 43: 58,833   54,049
wk 44: 59,659   54,087
wk 45: 62,697   55,699
wk 46: 63,321   55,886
wk 47: 63,941   56,199
wk 48: 62,063   55,465
wk 49: 57,807   57,303
wk 50:       57,568
wk 51:       57,424
wk 52:    58,458

Out of curiousity stirred by the now retracted spring article claiming 2020 had fewer deaths, I compared the first 8 weeks of 2020 with the same time frame in 2019 & 2018. The first 8 weeks of 2018 were part of a worse flu season and 2019 was mild so I thought it was more accurate to compare 2018/bad flu season with 2020.

WeeK 1: 60,018 v. 58,299 v. 64,647
Week 2: 60,553 v. 58,362 v. 67,495
Week 3: 59,192 v. 58,220 v. 64,647
Week 4: 58,993 v. 57, 908 v. 62,780
Week 5: 58,658 v. 58,152 v. 60,974
Week 6: 59,223 v. 58,523 v. 61,110
Week 7: 58,657 v. 58,000 v. 59,779
Week 8: 58,704 v. 58,005 v. 57,793
2020 total for weeks 1-8: 473,998

We were having a relatively mild flu season teh first 8 weeks of 2020. Wuflu deaths were just a few hundred at week 8.

First deaths of WuFlu begin with a few and quickly climb as week 9 is end of Feb.

Week 9:  59,125 v. 58,546 v. 56,692
Week 10: 59,492 v. 58,546 v. 57,093
Week 11: 58,471 v. 57,917 v. 56,326
Week 12: 59,027 v. 57,096 v. 55,766
Week 13: 62,789 v. 56,675 v. 54,918
Week 14: 72,079 v. 56,598 v. 55,294
Week 15: 78,836 v. 55,492 v. 55,228
Week 16: 76,559 v. 54,4468 v. 54,038
Week 17: 73,658 v. 53,656 v. 53,727
Week 18: 69,093 v. 53,987 v. 53,741

Week 18 ends May 2, 2020, same as the “study” claims to end their #s)

Weeks 9-18 totals (the time period when the Wuflu deaths began in the US and the end date of the now retracted article’s claims)

2020: 669,129*
2019: 562,959
2018: 552,823

2020, weeks 1-18 total deaths: 1,143,127*

*Note: I have not been curious enough to spend time checking for updated numbers on the above 2020 week 1-18 #s. I am sure that most weeks have seen a slight increase as additional deaths are reported that had been delayed for various reasons. Not many more, but a few more.

Source for all #s here is the same link already posted above. And no promises that they are exact as I make errors all of the time! But they are close, I think to what is listed at link.


FYI–you do realize that the numbers on the CDC site have been manipulated since March.
I used them in the beginning ….yet strangely what i had in March have mysteriously changed hmmm


Mysteriously change? Probably not.

The CDC clearly states that the #s are incomplete and will increase as weeks and months go by because some states and some counties are slower than others to report. + some deaths are under investigations for medical and even criminal reasons and death certificates are delayed and therefore not included in the initial #s.

SOP for #s to increase. the #s are not final.

Where do you get your info that you trust that shows same/lower death totals for 2020?

I would like to learn more.


Why it matters:

Because something is killing US Citizens. What?

Wuflu? Then China need to be held accountable! If we deny excess deaths we deny the harmful impact of wuflu and let China off the hook for what they have done to us, the deaths and the many who have “recovered” with long term impacts to their health.

CDC says that only 2/3s of all excess deaths are from Wuflu … what?! Then what else is killing US citizens?!

Lockdowns and their negative impacts?

If we deny excess deaths we also do not see/figure out what else is killing US citizens.

I looked the #s up when the spring study was retracted/pulled from publication, wondering what was going on. I didn’t have a “side” or a point to prove. Was just curious if the study claiming lower 2020 deaths was correct or wrong.

I wasn’t attached to a preconceived outcome or conclusion. Just looked it up to learn more. And this is what I learned. Always open to learning more as the above data/#s are not “my” message … just the facts I know at this point.

If we start with the wrong data assumptions or wrong death totals we won’t ask the right questions to get to the bottom of the issue and truth will be hidden.

I have posted this info before when memes or tweets are posted claiming fewer deaths in 2020. I have then been told to f* off + other F bombs, called names, “yelled” at in all caps, called a chinese spy and a chinese shill, etc. Sad as I am just focused on facts and truth to learn more, dig deeper, and figure things out. Cancel culture if one points out that the virus is nasty or that some facts contridict others? SMH

I miss the old days when truth had no agenda and we crowd sourced for info and facts, then came to conclusions. Being attached to a narrative over facts is bewildering to me.

Sharing as I figure you are usually after data, facts and so thought you might want to see it.


I had a couple of CDC sites earmarked…They are “404” type pages now.
Saw this happening in 2008, and should know to just start putting all of this stuff on flash drives. I have so many filled word files.
Intead of numbers on the CDC sites they have stat type numbers per 1,000, but not just one category my many categories per age, race and other types of categories, There is not ONE large category anymore,


I looked them up about a month ago,,,there was two years that that were lower ,,,
If you want to believe the white wash data then go ahead,
FYI you make a lot more friends by with kinder words
I looked them up about a month ago,,,there was two years that that were lower ,,,
If you want to believe the white wash data then go ahead,
Oh wait I guess MAGA Mom considers NY post a bunch of crock too
Here’s how the media is misreporting COVID-19’s death toll in America via @nypost

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Kinder words? I didn’t say anything personal to you in my post, much less anything unkind, to you and even asked for info, wanting to learn more if you had info/sources/links I hadn’t yet read. Just stated that I had posted the info about excess deaths repeatedly but am always interested in more info regardless if it agrees with me or not … actually, am even More interested when more info disagrees with me as I am only interested in accuracy and always open to learn more.

I have been cursed, accused of being a Chinese spy and a Chinese Shill, had f* bombs thrown at me, told to shut the F up, etc., because I have stated, with links, again and again that we have do have excess deaths in 2020.

Ok – now to the actual topic. I don’t understand that part of your reply either.

In your first comment you say: “Strange that over 2020 death toll is almost the same as many years in the last couple of decades, some years 2020 death toll is even lower”.

I asked for the source of this info – where did this conclusion/statistic/fact come from? Who/where is the reporting of lower/same #s for 2020?

You then say in reply where I am for your source so I can learn more, that I can believe the higher death totals for 2020 “If you want to believe the white wash data then go ahead”

Where do you get your data that you trust? If you don’t trust the CDC then where is your data coming from that you do trust? I would like to read it too and learn more, esp. if it contradicts the CDC data.


Thank you for the NYPost article.

Here is why it is wrong: they are comparing 7 months of Covid19 deaths of 200,000 to 177,000 deaths in 12 months of flu season, 2017-2018 to “prove” that there were not that many more deaths from Covid 19. Obviously, this does prove excess deaths even using this false comparison and it is transparent false comparison.

–The article was published Oct 17, 2020.

–The article used the 200,000 covid19 related deaths reported as of Sept 22, 2020.

–Covid19 related deaths began in the US in mid/late Feb with a handful and then became significant beginning in March.

–200,000 is from mid Feb – mid Sept, 7 months.

–to compare 7 months of covid19 related deaths that do not even include the high peak of illness typical of flu season (Dec-Feb) to a full 12 months of data is simply silly and irrelevant.

If anything the fact that there were already 200,000 dead of covid19 related deaths in the first 7 months and those months didn’t include the high mark months of Dec – Feb* is full proof that the accurate 12 month comparison will show covid19 related deaths to be much worse than a typical, or even bad, flu season.

We Already had 23K excess deaths on Sept 22, 2020 with 5 months to go for a complete 12 months for an apples to apples comparison.

If anything this article proves that, Yes, we have many 1,000s of excess deaths for 2020.

(*Feb 2020 is actually included but it had not fully spread at that point, just a few entry cases and hot spots so not an applicable comparison to a normal Feb for flu stats)

Thank you for sharing your sources. My reply is not personal – you didn’t write the article. My reply is merely a discussion of the articles facts and based on my assumption that everyone wants to know the facts and go from there.


That Gov is super creepy!! Just sayin!! Who the hell thought he was a good pick?

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John Kasich! The PUTIN OF RINOs!


His glasses ..Make him a nut job!!!


The glasses.
I’ve noticed that.
The ‘you’re in the club’ style.
They also hide the eyes.


Yup! But his daddy was a mailman…just sayin🤣

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His daddy would have cheated in this election, too, collecting FRAUD-PREP BALLOTS at the post office, and returning them to DNC boiler room operations!

We should have known – his dad was a vote cheater, and he’s BLUE DIAPER!

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😉 Truthfully, I have no idea if his dad was a CROOKED mailman, but he was a mailman! We know this for a FACT!!!


His daddy was the milkman. Momma lied.


hey! my daddy was a milkman!


You may have a half-brother in Ohio.


hehe…my father adored my mom and was faithful to her…this is one of my unshakeable beliefs. he taught me what love is.


My dad was the same. He adored my mother, who swore to divorce him damned near every day until the day he died, whereupon he suddenly became a saint.

She never remarried. My dad taught me what unconditional love was. I hope to see him again one day.


me too!


Absolutely!!!!! You got this!!
Hey Wolfie!!! Ya goin to 1/6 0r 1/20?

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Maybe AND LOGIC!!! 😍

Trump says 1/6, so if I go, that’s when. I follow orders.


I am so struggling with 1/6!! I am definitely in for 1/20!! I like to follow orders too!!!!

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Well, look at it this way. If I go on 1/6, and they bring down my blog, people have to go somewhere, so if one of us is on the job, that makes sure there is some place they can go! Likewise on 1/20.


Yep! We goes together darlin!!!


If the planets align as we believe, I will got to BOFF!


I have to get off a plane and get in a rental car. This is probably our last chance to be CRAZY.


You misspelled ‘putz’.

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Found it really strange and interesting all the crazy stuff I found in 2016 on the so called Republicans that were trying to run for president


The most dangerous part of going to the grocery store, for me, is getting across the parking lot. I generally put the face-diaper on when I’m about 10 feet from the door because it limits peripheral vision. Our idiot government expects people to be wearing the damned things at all times — even when driving alone in your car!

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Driving with a mask is DANGEROUS!!!


Walking across a parking lot with a mask is dangerous!! Shepherding a couple of tons of metal around at 60 mph is idiotic!!


most dangerous part of the store yesterday, for me, was the check-out lane…

where all the magazines are on display…

this one…
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…generated a hooplah involving 5 Trump supporters literally giving hell to the one snowbird idgit with her baby blue face mask on so tight her stupid eyes were bugging out…she called PDJT a “maniac” and a “pathological liar”…

man ahead of me picked up one of those Biden magazines and waved it in her stupid face, demanding her to tell him how Biden is honest or sane…

someone behind me shouted “Obama’s man !!”, and not in a pleasant way.

I joined in with “China’s puppet !!” , and the store cashier nodded at me YES ! YES ! YES !

even the cashier was fed-up and pissed off…I glanced kinda nervously up at the store surveillance cameras overhead (I know they’re up there)…hopefully that cashier won’t lose her job ??

people were starting to stare.

quite a few people were nodding their heads up & down.

people are pissed off.

just the sight of a Joe Biden magazine cover will get the blood boiling.

those check-out lanes can get a tad tense.


Time turned into MAD so gradually we hardly noticed.


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Been lurking, enjoying all theqtree comments. Love the new site.
Covid for thee not me. Vendors in a downtown building must have their phone scanned, survey questions answered, face scanned and temp taken to receive a wrist band to work in building. Company employees enter from parking garage or street level doors and are not subject to said wrist band branding.
The kicker… office employees agreed with vendors being screened. One employee went further “those” workers (me included) don’t have good hygiene habits.


Hiya Charlie!!


thanks for commenting, Charlie.

lurk no more ! 👍


When I’m at the grocery store I deliberately walk down the aisles against the arrows on the floor. I’m waiting for someone to challenge me so that I can explain that I am doing it to confuse the coronas.

Deplorable Patriot

People don’t even drive in the direction of the arrows on the parking lots. What made the powers that be think that they would grocery shop paying any sort of attention to arrows on the floor.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Masks are still de rigeur here, and we still have floor stickers reminding us about six foot separation, but “shop this way” disappeared from the walmarts months ago.


I have never had one person challenge me. I’m afraid it will be all over and I won’t have been able to make a scene for freedom. 😂


You should make a fake government “had it; immune” ID and flash it to the Karens. See what it takes to convince them.


you know…that’s a great idea.
I’ve had it.
which can mean 1) I’ve had covid….or 2) I’ve had it with this bullshit.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Just put that on a t shirt.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy


But not my style. When I start making false IDs, you will know things are bad. It means we are at WAR.
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Warning colorful language from a qualified nurse:

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OMG, that woman is GREAT. And even better is the fact that what she is saying about “crap sets off the test” matches the new paper about genetic incorporation by COVID-19, leading to expression of CRAP that matches.

So the bottom line is that there are two theories of the disease that the left will hate, and either one explains the facts nicely.

Which is correct? No such disease? Genetic incorporation to create garbage?

Doesn’t matter, IMO. End the stupidity reacting to it.


Just came over from the Clickbait Plumpit. The headline is misleading; the video does not show any violent confrontation. In fact, the video is about 25 seconds long. I will continue blocking ads over there.

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sorry to hear about the ongoing breathing issues. If you come across anything that helps I know you will share so we can pass it along. So terrible to be out of breath. Friends found olive leaf tincture makes a difference for them in their post recovery with breathing issues being one of their main “leftovers”. Of course, what works for one doesn’t work for all.

The virus sucks and China is an A****** for releasing it/not containing it & lying about it.

And the gov “help” is too often harmful in ways the virus can not directly harm us.


About two weeks ago, I had to make a foray into enemy territory, and was told I had to wear, at minimum, a face shield.

It was just a quick trip in and out. I had not realized up until then how much I struggle just to breathe on a normal daily basis.

I lasted ten minutes in the shield. If I had stayed another ten, I think I would have passed out. There’s just not enough air under there.

I can’t wear anything that covers my face for very long. I have so many “deformities” in my upper respiratory system that I have just compensated for, with yoga breathing and medicine every day. I just never thought about it until this year really. I just did it and carried on. The one time I “wore a mask” before this year, I just kept pulling it off my face all the time to catch a breath. But if you do that now, they will attack you in some places, like airplanes.

I’m pretty sure I had the ‘Rona early like you did, Wolf. Maybe I have more lingering issues than I thought, and it is worse than it used to be. I tend to just compensate for stuff and keep pushing on until I fall down. My family threatens to sit on me sometimes.

This mask shit is CRUEL, not just to people who have health issues. I hate the people doing this to us. I really do. It needs to end.

Gail Combs

I tell them FINE, I will wear a mask BUT YOU had better have an EMT and an oxygen tank on standby when I do!

(The guy I said it to freaked)

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Yup. One more sign that you had it! And you’re a “long hauler”, too, like me. But people like you and I can’t be wussies about it, which the LEFT tries to FORCE US to do, with their VICTIM-CLAIM virtue signals.

Look at my response to MAGA Mom on treatment. Magnesium supplements are what saved me. It’s not much of a dosage – just insuring that I’m at the RDA and have enough (overkill for seniors) D3 that I get full intestinal absorption of bivalent metals (that is what D3 does).

Everything about this disease makes sense now, although no thanks to the FAKE NEWS.


I take magnesium daily, along with my vitamin D. And you’re right, we don’t have time to wuss-out! I do fine, so long as I am not obstructed. I have to take three different allergy meds daily, because congestion makes me way worse. But I persevere, because what else am I gonna do?

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PS – yeah, I noticed that even face shields throw off my O2/CO2 balance, but much more slowly than masks, which cause me to “deep breathe” almost immediately. I do find that deep breathing under the face shield helps me retain balance.


I practice yoga, which teaches long slow deep breathing. I think this 25 year habit has probably kept me from much worse symptoms since Covid.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – if you were a rapid, shallow breather, COVID damage would have thrown you more quickly into either or both of hypoxia and hypercapnia, and you would have likely noticed your “urge to breathe” changing in unpleasant ways. That in turn leads to further respiratory complications, IMO, because not all forms of corrective breathing (such as continuous mouth breathing) are good for your lungs.

But we endeavor to persevere! 😃

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D pat!!! Ima late to the ballgame…everyday…merry Christmas!!!! You are a ROCK!!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Someday, I’m going to post Haydn’s Christmas Oratorio. It’s actually about Christmas.


I wonder if some of those old artists left people nekkid to save money on paint?

Deplorable Patriot

Europeans weren’t – and still aren’t – as squeamish about nudity as Americans have been. The Puritans and all that.


I would bet we are pretty close to getting “herd immunity” after all this time.


Linda– I haven’t worn a mask correctly..over my nose..eveh! my daddy in nursing home–got it.. and recovered!!! It’s bullshit at this point!!!


Good for him! I’m pretty sure I had it, too. It wasn’t a picnic, but I got over it and didn’t even go to a doctor. I just took my vitamins and rode it out until it was gone. I know people with pre-existing conditions can have a hard time with it. But if the idiots would give them HCQ or Ivermectin, they’d probably be just fine in a couple of days. Better yet, make those drugs over the counter and open everything up. We’d all be a lot better off.


HCQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dad is getting the Vaccine tomorrow… It breaks my heart…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

How old is your Dad? 70s or 80s? If he ain’t planning on having more kids, no problem, IMO.


He’s 86… I don’t like it..but I want to see him!!! in person.. He’s so funny!!! Even if he doesnt know me… he cracks me up! Last time he talked to me… He was in a a casino!!!🤣

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He’ll be fine – especially if he gets Pfizer. That is my favorite of the mRNA vaccines. Best results in the trials.


I love you…thanks!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

But don’t let the grands get it! Lay down on the TRACKS if you have to, to stop that crazy train! And tell their parents that it’s about THEIR grandkids!


Fer sur!!!! Knock Knock grand… Loves his grandma more than anybody!! Oh yeah!! We Win!!!


Fiancee got jab #1 of Pfizer today.


willingly? or required?


A little of each. She’s currently working at a VA hospital. We’re in our late 50s, so there’s no issues with that. It’s a “yes, dear….” situation with me.


she is well, tho? no side effects?


So far.


glad to hear it!!


was he winning? LOL


I have one lung ,don’t think I’ve had the Rona, refuse to wear my dump Kate Brown mask over my nose ,won’t follow arrows on the floor which I never look at the floor to begin with since that would stupid in a crowded store and I am ready to rebel against this total bullshit.i would grab my cane in a hot second to go protest the evil mask mandate.


you’re a feisty broad (no disrespect)…I like that!

Gail Combs

<i>”…a 15% decrease in new COVID cases and deaths in America….”</i>

Yeah SURE and NO CASES of the FLU! (Yellow lumps at bottom of graph.)

(Notice the spike ended and we are headed back down.)
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This is the Spring of 2020 for comparison.
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Mario has done it again–an article and meme we take to heart!

“It must be in our hearts and on our lips. It must be preached from our pulpits and heralded by every civic, business, and legal leader who loves America. It must be the war cry coming from all 7 mountains and every profession. MAGA country must become voter integrity country.

If I sound extreme, it is because you do not realize that all of our freedoms are dependent on free and fair elections. Remove that, and you have removed government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Anyone who is okay with ignoring the compelling evidence, is part of the tyranny.”


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Sorry forgot the space between the title and address,

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TY–Hey Grannie trying to be a good girl and only lurk..but just lurking is not always easier1
You all are the greatest, and you wolfie Thank you for all your hard work in giving us this haven.
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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Love it!


yikes! I thought that was a lion after receiving a vaccine shot—–and Bell’s Palsy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, it looked a bit GNARLY at first!!!


He is right. I told someone the other day that Pres. Trump has a duty to not allow fraud, disenfranchisement, foreign influence, and takeover of our government. He swore an oath, and his job is to protect the country. She looked a little stunned. I know she knew that what I said was correct, but political discussion stresses her, as does the threat of conflict. (Fine. She can sew flags 🇺🇸 while others fight. 😉 Not that sewing is not service; it just isn’t conflict.)

The election is not just about R vs. D. It’s about the very existence of the United States. Dems would take it over and pretend it’s the same country, but it wouldn’t be; America as founded would have been destroyed.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN! CCP is not going to pull this off. Au contraire, CCP is GONNA PAY.


Wolf…is this a feeling, a wish or knowledge?
i really want your positive outlook.

Gail Combs

I would put it at 95%

Remember POTUS was ASKED TO RUN!

A bit of dot connecting.

#1. 1954Senator McCarthy spent almost five years trying in vain to expose communists and other left-wing “loyalty risks” in the U.S. government…
It was not until he attacked the Army in 1954 that his actions earned him the censure of the U.S. Senate. LINK

#2 1958 — Eisenhower warns of the Military Industrial Complex.
Businessman and founder Robert W. Welch Jr. (1899-1985) developed an organizational infrastructure in 1958 of chapters nationwide. (wiki) Since 1958, staff and members of The John Birch Society have been busy recruiting and providing leadership to an educational army… LINK

Early 1960s G.Edward griffin video:

(worth watching)

#3. 1963Congressional Record — Appendix, pp. A34-A35 — January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals

#4. 1976The Rockefeller File by Gary Allen June 28th 1976
#5. 2014 —  General Paul Vallely compiles List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama
General Vallely’s comment:

Absolutely every communist regime on the planet did this as soon as they got in power. I am surprised this communist traitor with his feet up on our furniture in the white house hasn’t done this until now!

SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?  I am doing my part. 

#6. Jun 16, 2015 President Trump announces run for President.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is not what many would consider a positive outlook. No more positive than 1776, 1860, or 1941.

Positive in terms of where it ends up. Not positive in terms of how much has to happen to get there.

There could be quite a few dead people between now and then. And I will almost certainly be one of them.

But on a positive note, we will prevail.

There is still time for stupid people to be less stupid.


Do believe that many tried to warn us through the years
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And then for the next 10 years after they killed him, they wiped out the Minutemen!


Nothing like seeing a president assassinated on TV to end one’s childhood. Can’t imagine what 911 did to the youth of our nation. I know what it did to me.

Gail Combs

Very much a shocker for me too.


it’s President Trump vs the UniParty

time to stop thinking in terms of “Republican vs Democrat”….because that is pure myth.

Gail Combs

Mario is so correct.
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from the mouth of one of most horrid dictators.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Georgians and vote counting…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA! Oh, the irony!


Wolfie… I hope yer not mad at me me for “whispering” to Bren over last nite to settle the peeps! irt the stupid bill…I still cannot figure out what went down! But… i Trust our President! I just wanted to keep Patriots together!!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not sure what you’re talking about with Bren, but if there was something you could do to make me mad, I would surely know it, and I don’t! 😃


How do I say….I Love ya forever!!!😘💖


how’s the shoulder doing?
if you’re going to DC at ANY point, you should be well healed–never know when you’re gonna need a good right/left cross…LOL


Gettin there Pat… Therapist called me a “tough broad” so I must be doing better!🤣


I have always known this about you!!




much admiration and respect Marica!!!


Right back atcha sista!!!!😘💖


As I listened to “Semper Fidelis,” I was struck by how timeless it is. It was written in 1888 and is the official march of the U.S. Marine Corps.


Nice version with intro!

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Plus a really great music video at the end, showing a mountain river from a helicopter!


Really enjoying Gab TV so far. Have been watching off and on while on vacation

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

For a new product, I’m impressed. Rumble’s embedding capability is CARP, but Gab’s is very close to finished, and for some people, works perfectly.


I won’t watch this sasquatch video- just the sight of Big Mike Obama upsets me.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I love this header image!


Consider signing this petition. I would


Awwww….it’s only got 253 signatures. I’m disappointed that there aren’t more feline fans.


It’s starting small but I think the maga crowd could push it over the line.
when obumma was Potus some fucktard did a petition for the us to annex Australia. They got enough signatures but obumma pointed out it was considered bad form to take over n ally. Only sensible thing ever from him

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think he also turned down the one to build a death star.


ironic…he IS a death star

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, way too skinny.

But the destructive potential is quite similar.


If they amended it to limit the treason to the 2020 election bet it would of had a half a million signatures by now.


Biden body count


How is he connected to Biden?


Worth knowing. Purloined from sumdunce.

Dr Paul Marik, ICU specialist, originally from South Africa, now at EVMS pioneered the HAT sepsis treatment some years ago-

A=Ascorbic acid

Hydrocortisone, Ascorbic Acid and Thiamine (HAT Therapy) for the Treatment of Sepsis. Focus on Ascorbic Acid

And for Covid:

Developed and updated by Paul Marik, MD Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA
May 25th, 2020


Happy go lucky

These are great, perfect for sharing, thanks!


Specifically does not recommend HCQ or AZ. Yet, we have many, many reports from trusted MD’s (but only B.S. from Med establishment) on great successes of HCQ and with AZ and Zinc.

Gail Combs


We lost a favorite goat to antibiotic resistant sepsis.


mystery money, houses, bombs and other weirdness…

What We Know About Michelle Swing, The Woman Given Homes By Anthony Quinn Warner

article link…


LA-based 29 year old music industry exec (AEG Presents), Michelle Swing, was given 2 properties on the same street in suburban Nashville last year…

she paid nothing for them…they are valued at more than $400,000. , combined.

one of them is the house in Antioch where Warner last resided…the same house with the “quit-claim transfer”.. and where the RV had been parked.

more on this woman, some other background history on those properties, in the article.

she claims she never met Warner.


13 more things about Michelle Swing…

article link…



Interesting….So Swing was given a house in Nashville by Warner via quit claim, then gave this house to his mother via quit claim BUT she doesn’t know Warner? Huh?

In January 2019, a $160,000 house on 3724 Bakertown Road in Antioch, Nashville was given to her via a quit claim by Anthony Quinn Warner. On March 23, 2019, she gave the house back to his mother Betty Christine Lane via quit claim.


according to that NY Post article, she claims Warner just “deeded it over” to her without her knowledge and that this is how it’s done in Tennessee…??

did she even ever occupy either of those “homes” ?

there’s more to this Swing chick than meets the eye ?


One of the things frequently done when applying for some sort of financial aid is quitclaiming real estate to a trusted confederate, after which you don’t have to claim it as an asset.


there are also no warranties in a quit claim deed…very risky.

but how would Swing, as she claims, not have knowledge of the quit claim transfer ??

doesn’t the deed…any deed…incl a quit claim deed…have to be delivered to the grantee ?

and…if she transferred the property back to the mother, she’d have to “have knowledge” of it.


First, you are absolutely correct in noting that her reconveyance to the mother doesn’t just imply knowledge — it’s an indicator.

OTOH, you can do all sorts of things with a quitclaim. You can hide it in a desk drawer or safe-deposit box. It doesn’t have to be recorded, which means county tax records don’t have to be updated for it.


Let me be just a little more technical…..if I were to quitclaim to you any interest I had in Hyperborea and stuffed it into a desk drawer, it would never be an issue — you could claim that you never knew me.

But if I quitclaimed an interest in Hyperborea to you — and, four months later, you quitclaimed the same interest to someone else, that’s a PRETTY SOLID INDICATION that you knew about the first one. Mind you, if you had quitclaimed various interests in Erehwon, R’lyeh, and Atlantis during those months, the issue might be somewhat hazier….but if your only quitclaim activity was a specific bit of Hyperborea……yeah, you’re cooked.


Not to mention all your readers who are downright confused as all git out.