Is Whitaker Moving Against The Cabal Already?

The latest, 11/11/2018 batch of Q posts is absolutely intriguing.  These posts include a large number of posts containing the word Placeholder.
Q_Tweets_Placeholder
It has been pointed out that PLACEHOLDER is sometimes used for NAMES in indictments.  But it could also be referring to AAG Whitaker.
Here are some Tweets about it:


https://twitter.com/squashpants/status/1061796477117349888
https://twitter.com/TheRealRaNon/status/1061712462368530432
https://twitter.com/soul_whispers/status/1061744953813098496
https://twitter.com/thelangwang/status/1061716673760292867


https://twitter.com/EstefaniaRobin2/status/1061735277109043200


 
What do we think?  Spill your thoughts!!!
W

James-Coburn
“Interesting.  Know what I think? [PLACEHOLDER]”
 
 
 
 

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shannynae

I really enjoy all your posts. Keep ’em coming! Haha. Things are moving so fast and it is getting very exciting. It’s been a long two years. I think that we have a very bright future. Watching the Cabal panic and react is both frightening and exciting. God bless the Q team and Q+.

wheatietoo

Yes, it is all very exciting, isn’t it!
It’s good to see you here, shannynae.
😀

shannynae

Hi there wheatie! I’ve missed you……I lurk a lot now days and not so vocal.

singularZoe

Nice to see you here, Channynae. You always make me think.

shannynae

Thank you! Humbled.

Sylvia Avery

Hi Shannynae! I’m happy to see you here! Buckle your seat belt!

shannynae

Sylvia!!!! So good to be among friends.

wheatietoo

Q has often said…”Future proves Past”.
I have pondered this quite a bit.
I’m thinking that this is a reference to catching these nefarious evil people in-the-act of doing illegal things.
It’s one thing to use evidence of past wrong-doing to indict and prosecute someone.
But it is even better…to catch them at it!
Q has also mentioned “Fishing”…and “Big Fish”.
Which implies that they have laid traps, or are lying in waiting with hooks in place.
We really don’t know what-all the Sleepy Elf has been up to the past 21 months.
Just because he wasn’t talking about it…doesn’t mean he wasn’t doing things.
I know a lot of people think that “Trust Sessions” meant that ‘Sessions would unleash hell’ on all the wrong-doers.
But how do we know that’s what Q was referring to?
I am still in wait-and-see mode on that whole thing.

A.D. Everard

Agree. All eyes were on Mueller and RR, meanwhile Sessions was left to go about his job unimpeded. I’m happy to wait and see, we’ll all know soon enough.
Popcorn anyone?

Deplorable Patriot

I always did think that the Mueller investigation and team had a purpose other than investigating anything having to do with Russia. It was a way to keep all those Democrat lawyers busy and out of the way. As they went, precident was made using the “plants” for future prosecution of the same crimes on a much larger scale.
Rosenstein…he either flipped or was a double agent from the beginning playing the part of swamp creature to flush out some players and info, and I think the IG report was part of that. Some pretty obvious 4 am mockingbird messaging and collusion with the Clinton team was going on to try to pin the tail on one donkey who I’ve always believed was a white hat playing a black hat. I’m one of the only ones who believes that, too.
Nothing is as it is being reported, that’s for sure.

pjasond

Yup, I still have RR firmly in the white hat camp …
He was already on board the day POTUS “asked” him to remain on in early 2017

Plain Jane

Oh forgot to say, jury still out because of his wife.

Plain Jane

SorryI should have put this below my post.

judyw

pjasond, if RR wasn’t firmly in the white hat camp before his travel to Orlando in the SCIF known as AF1 with POTUS, it would be reasonable to assume a conversion of sorts took place. That was another brilliant move that really makes one smile! 🙂

Greg

I don’t know that I’d have RR firmly in the “white hat” camp but I’m certainly leaning that way particularly since watching his appearance in front of congress (I forget whether it was the house or senate but he was under oath) where he refused to answer directly if he had read the FISA document before signing it, if he had been a “black hat”, he would have just lied about it, to me, he came across as honest but being put in an awkward position. I’m also thinking that telling the President that “he was not under investigation” a while back and that the investigation was “not what you think” (I can’t remember the exact context) and finally he was invited to travel with the President on AF1 where a 1/2hr discussion was held which would have been in probably the most secure environment possible for a meeting. Given all that, I do come down heavily on the side of Rod Rosenstein being in the good camp..

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

The Air Force 1 flight tilts me in the direction of thinking RR is a white hat too. Its an honor to travel with the president, and I don’t think PDJT would bestow that honor on a black hat. And they could be absolutely sure nobody was listening.
If RR is a white hat and thinking about how Trump operates, I wonder if RR signed the last Carter Page FISA extension with the full knowledge and approval of PDJT — letting things play out for a while, and making RR look like a black hat.

sallyal

Q says if RR good Mueller good. If Mueller bad RR bad.

Plain Jane

For me, the jury was and still is out re RR. Don’t know why for sure, but JS never totally appealed to me, but never doubted, and still don’t doubt he’s a white hat. Maybe because I had expectations for DOJ as needing to be a bulldog. There is something innocent about his expression and demeanor.

NebraskaFilly

I took the “trust Sessions” to be more along the lines of trust him to do what PDJT asks him to do and trust that he is NOT DS. I am assuming many (most?) of you have followed the links and looked at the back-up attached to each of his posts? It certainly gets kind of wild and confusing, I have to say.

shannynae

I believe that this whole plan was put together while Trump was a candidate. Every post, tweet and comm was planned. This is war. I think that every person was chosen for a specific part of the plan and when they had accomplished what they were to do, they passed the baton to the next player. That is why Q and Q+ specifically thanked Sessions for his sacrifice. Also, Q explains why Scaramucci only stayed for 10 days. Same thing. He played a small but important role in the ongoing Q plan. I believe that Goodlatte and Gowdy are in this group of unsung heroes also. (still waiting for a Gowdy white hat proof as I am only 90% on him)
Sessions worked with the Stealth Bomber (Huber) and together with the army of 470 attorneys, was able to accumulate over 61,000 sealed indictments, arrest hundreds of pedophiles, hundreds of MS13 gang members and much more. In my book, he is a true Patriot and was willing to take the arrows and then ride off into the sunset.
Apologize for rambling or not making sense…..very tired. Nite all.

wheatietoo

Well I liked it, shannynae…and I think you made a lot of sense.
And it was more like ‘thousands’ of pedos that have been arrested.

shannynae

I wrote thousands first and then changed it thinking that I was wrong. Thanks!

NebraskaFilly

Until Benghazi, I was 110% behind Gowdy – not any more! Below 50/50 now, in my book. I agree about the plan, tho – no doubt in my mind. One simply cannot ignore it all – his genius IQ, his studies of Sun Tzu, his attendance at a military academy, his insider knowledge – as we all know, he has been planning this since the 1980’s, for goodness sakes! Of course there is a plan. The one thing I do wonder is if they didn’t correctly predict the absolute all-encompassing attack from the media after he announced.

shannynae

If there was no way to prosecute any of these people because of corrupt judges, DOJ, FBI,C_A, WH and the MSM covering up everything and the Dems would have never let anything happen so what would have been the point to even try? I thought that Gowdy was brilliant with educating the public through the QUESTIONS that he asked. A good prosecutor never, ever prosecutes a crime that he or she KNOWS they can’t win. Now we will be able to go after all those involved in the Benghazi atrocity and we will win!
Totally agree that Trump has been planning this from the 80″s. He didn’t want to be the one to do it as he has stated many times but it soon became clear that he was the only one that could because no owns him…no strings. Appreciate your thoughts.

NebraskaFilly

Gowdy appointed a MB-connected representative to the committee. Oh, he puts on a good dog-and pony show but with what results? Nada. He so badly let Killary off the hook, I was yelling at my TV. Having said that, yes, to a certain extent as to results, his hands were tied – it was a set up from the beginning – I know that now. Hey – go to bed – weren’t you falling asleep? lol I really have to do the same. Enjoyed the chat! See y’all.

A.D. Everard

Someone pointed out (sorry, I can’t remember who) that what Gowdy was doing was getting things ON RECORD that could then be used at a later date in a successful prosecution. I don’t know, but I’m looking forward to finding out. I do think there are more White Hats than we realize.

NebraskaFilly

I hope so.

shannynae

I have read that somewhere also and I hope it was true. His questions would probably have been considered “leading” in a court of law as they were posed as more of a narrative. I learned a lot from his questions that the MSM had covered up.

Deplorable Patriot

Communications may have been worked out while Trump was a candidate, but I doubt it. The tweets are too time sensitive for that. A rough outline may have been in place, but I think “the plan” had been rolling for years before this time frame.
Q crumb said JFK Jr. plane crash was “the start.” The start of what? Formulation of the plan? Something this sophisticated would take longer to put together than one would imagine. Yeah, that was 16 years, but consider if it was the start of execution of the plan. The first step would be to find and identify the civilian players. The military guys would have known who they could trust among their own.
I’ve toyed with that idea for a while, and that being the case the planners would have had to recruit from members of Congress, those who were former government who had an ax to grind, and finding people to insert somehow, like, say, using the 2010 TEA Party wave that saw Gowdy, Pompeo and Mulvaney go into Congress, and two of them in districts where they were not from. Sundance himself gave the clue: why Mulvaney if he was a swamp creature? Because he was playing a role while they waited for all the pieces to be put in place.
Still watching the players on that concept. It’s not fleshed out all the way yet.
The Scaramucci move, if that is being employed with Whitaker, is to get the last remaining black hats out of DOJ one way or another. Some will quit. The rest will get fired, just like what Scaramucci did with the White House communications office. Spicer and Priebus, the leaker, left on their own supposedly.
THAT’s what is needed before prosecution of all the indictments can go forward. And that is what the impatient ones don’t want to get.

shannynae

I hope that someday we will know the whole story although Q has already said that some of the info must always stay buried for the sake of the world. Still, I hope we get to hear or read about the whole historic and epic plan. I figure it should fill about twenty volumes….haha. It certainly should be taught in school.

judyw

shannynae, I have a similar hope. I was born curious and outgrowing it seems unlikely. I just hope the information that is helpful to advancing humanity is widely available in education, medical practices and socially and is so well established that it is easily discussed in gatherings of family, friends and business associates.
Pure evil is at the core of it all and I allowed myself to learn about it in increments over a span of years. The first book I read eons ago was recommended to me by a therapist I was seeing during a divorce and it made so much I simply could not comprehend and didn’t understand make sense.
The book is People of the Lie: The Hope for Healing Human Evil by M. Scott Peck who wrote The Road Less Traveled and it is an excellent read … will soothe a soul with cold, hard truths which seems contradictory but it was a new level of thinking I’d never experienced. :).

judyw

I agree, Wolf and it is not a one and done. It’s like over and over as every time you read it you expand your knowledge base because you aren’t where you were the last time you read it….much like Sun Tzu’s The Art of War always seems to have added content since I read it before….

shannynae

I was born curious also! The hardest thing for me and it still is….is wrapping my head around the level of evil and depravity and I know that we have only learned about a very small part of it. Q has hinted at some very dark and terrible things. His comment about not being able to sleep is haunting.
This is just one of many posts where he mentions not sleeping because they know ALL the truth:
Q !ITPb.qbhqo ID: cc0116 No.34917 📁
Dec 5 2017 00:09:40 (EST)
RED RED 9/11.
Funds raised vs distributed?
Oversight?
7/10 plane crashes are targeted kills.
Those in the know never sleep.
Q

andrew1979

jfk jr happened right before my daughter was born and was one of those moments where you get that feeling that something was not right. all kinds of questions. all kinds of mystery. i did not trust something but i knew it would be some time before truth started to slip out. after 9/11 and the resulting usurping of our civil rights and most important our privacy i gave up for a while resigned to the fact that while being into this stuff was in my blood i just had to concnetrate on my family and not talk about the masons and scientology and the illuminati for a while because i freaked others out – and to lessen the mental stress of bringing a child into this mess… my daughter’s mother was scared frozen after 9/11 and it was so hard to explain what i was thinking about it as opposed to the fear she was being fed…
so i can totally see the jfk jr episode and then certainly 9/11 probably cemented it in the president’s mind that he might do something…
as a side note – i was always fascinated by trump since i was little. he was different and bold yet very likable – as in i never had the feeling he was a bad person even as a kid seeing him on tv.
little did i know back then he was a timetraveller too using info from another one of my favorite underdogs Tesla! 😉

A.D. Everard

Makes sense, Shannynae.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

Boom. When the smear campaign against Kavanaugh was executed, PDJT decided to let it play out, watched who did what, and is in the process of rolling them up.
Grassley has already made 4 criminal referrals, starting with the little fish, and his recent report on the review by the Senate Judiciary Committee staff of allegations against Kavanaugh stated he is not done. It will take a while to squeeze the little fish and get them to give up bigger fish, but that is how cases against conspiracies unfold.
And just a few days after Judicial Watch filed ethics charges against Ford’s lawyers with the DC Bar, Grassley’s report also lays out several ethical violations by Ford’s attorneys. The attorneys will not be able to refute facts found by the Senate and it is highly unlikely that the DC Bar will fail to understand why Grassley stated this information so plainly in his report.
Put these together and the lawyers have to know that PDJT is coming at them from multiple directions at the same time.
And I think it is unlikely that the ring leader will be able to protect them. I don’t have any facts to back this up, but when I saw DiFi’s face after she reviewed the results of the supplemental FBI report, she looked like someone who knew they were about to be utterly crushed. I suspect something in the report indicated to her that the good guys know her secrets, and are not about to let it go.

singularZoe

For whatever it’s worth, Sundance went fishing lately. Lol.

para59r

Under one of the hashtags Donna says “Place Holder Under Arrest”. Works for me but we can’t stop there.
Anyway, looks like an expected check off or to do list.
Lets hope they get to work on it asap.

wheatietoo

One of the Q-drops today was about Declas…and I thought about you, para59r.
Haaa.
Did you see it?
_______
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.452
Nov 11 2018 12:58:18 (EST)
Let the unsealing begin.
Let the DEC[L]AS begin.
Let the WORLD witness the TRUTH.
We, the PEOPLE.
JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW.
Q
_______
I wonder what the “[L]” in bold means?

wheatietoo

Those are good guesses!
However…Q usually uses double capital letters to denote ‘people’ doesn’t he?
Like: LL or LP, RR or RM.
I was trying to think of a ‘category’ or an ‘institution’ that the [L] might be referring to…
[L] = Legislature or Legislators?

Plain Jane

Long shot, but what about L for Law or lawyer, denoted very stealthily. I should just keep reading and shut up now, before I embarrass myself further. 🙂

wheatietoo

Law, Legal, Legislature…I had sort of the same thought, Jane.
Heheh.

Plain Jane

Oh my, Wheatie, if we are thinking alike, I feel sorry for you. LOL

sallyal

Legal?

A.D. Everard

Yeah, I was thinking a name. All I could think of was Lynch, but she’s always LL, so LL would have been used there… meaning I guess it’s not her.

wheatietoo

Was thinking the same, A.D.
Heheh.

A.D. Everard

Great minds and all that. 🙂

phoenixRising

Wasn’t there an L missing in DEC[L]AS last drop?

PM says she is one possibility but he is willing to wait for more info…

wheatietoo

Thanks, phoenixR!
I hadn’t seen that PM tweet yet.

phoenixRising

yw –
the poor man kept posting to his thread for over 7 hours ! There is a lot of stuff in that thread that could use some chewing on I’m sure…
amazing thing about PM is he REMEMBERS drops from months ago… this one was a year I think.

wheatietoo

I like how Praying Medic is being the bigger man, about SD going nuclear on Q and Q-peeps.
Even though SD has made some snarky comments about PM in the past…PM chose to go the high road.

phoenixRising

I like that also wheatietoo
(WP won’t let me LIKE comments)

wheatietoo

I think you’d prolly like having a WP account…if you ever decide to open one.
It’s easy.
If I can do it, anyone can do it.
😀

NebraskaFilly

I second wheatietoo’s comment – have had a WP account for quite some time now. Actually, it had been so long since I used it, when I decided to comment at CTH and went to sign up for a WP account, I got the notice I already had one. Went to my trusty list and there it was! I had totally forgotten about it! Oh, wow! Just remembered, I have a Google cloud account, too.

shannynae

PM has been working on a new thread tonight. He is up to #130 in the thread. Will be reading it tomorrow for sure!

Linda

When Q first made that post, he left out the “L” in Declas. He spelled it “Decas.” I noticed it right away and wondered if there was significance to it, since sometimes with Q there is. Then later it was changed to add the “L” in brackets. He may just be pointing out that he made a typo. Hard to say.

A.D. Everard

Don’t know. I’d have thought he’d just ignore a typo. Maybe one L missing and the other L in kill brackets equals LL. Loretta Lynch.

andrew1979

noticed that also. are the posts editable? at first i thought it was a copy/paste issue, but now several people mentioning it so maybe there was a change to the post?

wheatietoo

Yes, Q has made typos before…and then comes back to correct them.
But he usually mentions it when it was a ‘typo’.
As for editing, I don’t think there is that feature there on 8chan.
So Q has usually deleted a post and then reposted it with the correction.

andrew1979

thanks for the reply on that wheatie, i had forgotten that there were a couple of occassions of deleted and reposted messages. honestly for me i never made the full transition to 8chan after the cbts threads were moved there. i have followed 4chan type stuff for years and all sorts of stuff back to usenet days, irc channels, etc, but mostly got off it for a while while my daughter was growing up and i was trying to have a career and “blend in” and i tried to kick my conspiracy theorist label… but i couldn’t of course 🙂 well i kind of shook the label and became smarter about talking about stuff i guess…

wheatietoo

You’re very welcome, andrew1979…and it’s nice to see you here.
🙂

NebraskaFilly

Might it mean “leak?”

wheatietoo

Hadn’t thought of that one…good guess!

NebraskaFilly

Well, I think that’s what they should do, altho, they should have done it BEFORE we lost the House! SMH

ZooNTexas

Three Factions of the CIA that Control the World – Covert FVEY Alliance, DAA and EDAA Geopolitics for Profit Violate Global Civil Liberties and Rights

wheatietoo

That whole Covfefe episode was an illustration in how powerful Pres Trump’s tweets are.
The whole world was up late that night, tweeting about it, talking about it…trying to guess what it meant.
It…was…hilarious!
This is Why the Left wants him to stop tweeting.

Plain Jane

The first Covfefe was a a great test to see who all was listening. The second time he said Covfefe, something significant happened, but for the life of me I can’t remember what. Anyone remember?

Plain Jane

Bummer, that is logical Wolfie. I was hoping for a PT riddle or aa sign. 🙂

Plain Jane

Thanks, I get it.

andrew1979

so in layman’s terms there was a special character or unrecognized symbol that he typed initially that was misinterpreted by the time it was rendered in the html on twitter?

A.D. Everard

LOL. Neat.

A.D. Everard

Yes. I think happening NOW. The Big Ugly. 😀

Aubergine

Well, the post mentioning “SC rulings re: challenges re: civ_non-civ” is almost certainly about the EO that goes into effect in January, which addresses military tribunals for civilians. The only appeal granted after a tribunal is to the Supreme Court. And we now have a conservative majority there.
Maybe “placeholder” is letting us know that while these events are not happening immediately, they are going to come eventually? Thus the “placeholder” status.

MysticRose80

Wanna know if Whitaker poses a threat to the Cabal? Here are some examples of headlines that appear doing a Yahoo! Search:
– Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker Once Said That Jews, Muslims, and Aetheists Should Not Be Federal Judges (Newsweek)
– Here are 5 reasons why Matthew Whitaker isn’t attorney general material (USA Today)
– Column: Matthew Whitaker is a crackpot (Chicago Tribune)
– When Matt Whitaker Ran ‘a Chop Shop of Fake Ethics Complaints’ (New York Magazine)
Google search:
– I Was the Subject of a Political ‘Witch Hunt.’ Matt Whitaker Directed It (Politico)
– Yes, Whitaker’s Appointment Is Unconstitutional. Here’s How To Challenge It. (HuffPo)
– Acting Attorney General Sat on Board of Company Accused of Bilking Customers (New York Times)
– Whitaker’s controversial prosecution of a gay Democrat (CNN)
Bing:
– Acting Atty. Gen. Matthew Whitaker was paid by a firm the FTC called a ‘scam’ (L.A. Times)
– Matthew Whitaker Led Foundation That May Have Violated Tax-Exempt Status (HuffPo)
– Almost everything about Matthew Whitaker’s appointment is problematic (Washington Post)
Now, with these latest drops from Q, I wonder if this may not be another Scarumucci situation and Whitaker is, in fact, going to be the replacement. Maybe the list of possible replacements floating around is just pure red meat for the media.

andrew1979

one look at the search results there and you can tell he is a threat.

wheatietoo

Wow…look at all that.
Smells like Panic to me.

Spab

“– Column: Matthew Whitaker is a crackpot (Chicago Tribune)”
That would suggest he is a eminently qualified to work in Washington DC.

MysticRose80

😂😂😂

Tammy Evers (@EverEleutheros)

Hilarious! Guess I may need to sign up for wordpress so I can start hitting the likey buttons..

Plain Jane

I still can’t like nor post via my pc, but can via the iPad. I have to sign in from the pc with EVERY post I make from it. Am thinking our son put many safeguards and blockers on our pc.

Plain Jane

Tried that all. Don’t know everything our youngest did to secure the pc, but I can’t cut through it, so except for rare occasions, I have to be happy with the iPad. He also secured our laptop for vacations. I just learned last week that he was on the chans when he was 8. Oi!

Plain Jane

Thanks for all the info Wolfie.

A.D. Everard

HAHAHA. Oh man, lucky I didn’t have a mouthful of coffee, that would have done in my monitor…

phoenixRising

iirc Wolf… one can often read double meaning into bot Q drops and POTUS’ tweets…
Some are looking at Whitaker (pause)…
off topic a minute… I like examining words/labels, I think they sometimes tell us we know more than we think we do (hmmm… anyone heard that phrase before?) Matt’s surname “Whitaker” phonetically says to me we-take-her
Anyway, I digress… some are looking at Whitaker as temporary, as a ‘Placeholder” – and as Sessions Chief of Staff he certainly was privvy to and a part of indictments, grand juries, etc.
Q seems to be suggesting ‘placeholder’ indictments in various categories.
which brings us back to Whitaker – Justice won’t move forward with corruption remaining in the DoJ… it’s his job, in my view, to clean out the remaining corruption so that indictments result in prosecutions.
Trying not to get too optimistic here… praying we are beginning the 2 yrs of ‘justice’
” Let justice roll down
Like a mighty river
Let righteousness flow on and on”

Roberta

Yes, ditto!

Deplorable Patriot

Agreed. Whitaker is there to clean house, just like Scaramucci did and clear the way for prosecutions to move forward. (Wow, I hate that phrase “move forward”)

phoenixRising

Does anyone else see ‘cold anger’ in his face?

wheatietoo

Yes…and also, look at the color tones in that picture.
^^That^^ is PDJT’s true color, without all the fake color filters that the media use to make him look ‘orange’.

scott467

“^^That^^ is PDJT’s true color, without all the fake color filters that the media use to make him look ‘orange’.”
_________________
You reminded me of a comment by NeonRevolt from November 8th about Whitaker that had me laughing out loud:
“The rallying cry will now be “Constitutional Crisis” which… frankly, is a meaningless term to the Left. Trump is well within his Constitutional rights here. He hasn’t violated any law. But that won’t matter to the Left.
To them, “Constitutional Crisis” basically means “ORANGE MAN DO THING I NO LIKE. I BURN TRASH CAN NOW. BASH FASH! BASH FASH!!” ”
It STILL cracks me up 😁

Sylvia Avery

That is pretty funny. And sort of sad, too. But mostly funny. Tomorrow, I’ve got to check out neon revolt.

A.D. Everard

POTUS is home? Thank You God for his safe return!

Roberta

Not so much.
But I have noticed he looks sober, somber, intense, firm, concerned….in every photo since the election. But I might have a different view if I had been right alongside him during this week. It is too easy to make these suggestions from one still shot….
Still, the FL, during the last 48 hours, in the photos available, has looked bright, smiling in the eyes, not just the face, whilst POTUS has that intense, non-smiling face.
He knows stuff. He carries a heavy burden, heavier, perhaps, since last Tuesday.

NebraskaFilly

Is it just me or does Melania look tense as well? Such a classy woman! It is an absolute travesty what she and Barron have had to endure.

NebraskaFilly

Works for me. Thanks again, Wolfie, for the landing spot. Much appreciated.

phoenixRising

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1061798769526738946
https://twitter.com/55true4u/status/1061804097261645824

Okay, it’s rent a vote now… bring ’em in by box, by car, by semi, by plane…

A.D. Everard

What the…?

andrew1979

the poll on the nbc6 webpage from their tweet above… shaking my head.
it is no wonder so many are unable to break free of the propaganda.

Emeraldstar

Broward County.
AGAIN!!!
A nexus of evil.comment image

Plain Jane

Puts things in perspective.

wheatietoo

Hmm…so there’s a “bomb threat” called in..at the same time that a ‘box of ballots’ mysteriously turns up at the same Airport?
Wow.
Coincidence?
I’m giving the side-eye stinkeye to that one.

MysticRose80

Too fishy. Is “Bomb Scare” code for “whoops, we got caught red-handed. Quick, destroy the evidence”?

A.D. Everard

LOOK! A SQUIRREL!

A.D. Everard

LOL. Love it.

wheatietoo

Yep…and we’re not the only ones thinking that.
Found this over at the Qresearch board:comment image

Sylvia Avery

Too late! Ha, ha, ha.

Sylvia Avery

I think the bomb threat was called in shortly (maybe an hour I think I read?) after FDLE had already been contacted about the box of ballots in the rental car at the airport. Car rented to Broward Co employee and Gillum supporter. (What, no conflict of interest? Color me naive.)

wheatietoo

Yep…I just posted about that on the ‘MAGA: Open Topic’ thread:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/11/10/dear-maga-open-topic-20181111/comment-page-2/#comment-2879

Spab

This Q phenomenon leaves me befuddled (truth be known that is not hard to do). A couple of words that have appeared often in Q posts are ‘think logically.’ OK, using that as a starting point I would like to ask a few questions for general consideration.
#1: Why is Q making this information available to the public? It permits his critics to attack when things do not materialize as planned and it also demoralizes his supporters for the same reason.
#2: Why are the messages constructed in ways that requires the information to be interpreted and guessed at. It is almost like he sees the Q community as an Agatha Christie book club.
Just two of many possible questions about the approach Q uses to inform.

andrew1979

others will have to weigh in but when q first started there was all kinds of talk about the AI’s that tech companies were using and q was posting cryptically to avoid AI mining. of course now i am sure they have tweaked their algorithms.

Gudthots

Praying Medic does a good job explaining this in some of his videos/tweets. Best way for you to get your answer may be to keep thinking. 😉

Linda

You have to remember that we aren’t the only ones reading the Q drops. The Deep State is, too. If he is too clear, then the enemy knows what to expect and can counter. This is definitely a military op. Some of his drops aren’t really meant for us, they are meant to flush out the enemy and make them react. And keep in mind, too, that Q can’t post classified information. That’s why he often asks questions that get us looking and discovering what he really can’t come out and say.

NebraskaFilly

Also, his identity. If he gives too much away, the DS will be able to track him down and deduce where he works.

Sylvia Avery

And where he sleeps at night.

phoenixRising

Who the hey is “The Administrative State” ????
Term used in 3 most recent pieces by [ ] at the TH.
I popped over to take a peek…

andrew1979

that term just popped up there on friday first time i noticed on the snorkel extension post. thought it was strange myself but people there started using it like it was common. i guess it is another term for “the administration” aka president trump’s administration. but i could be misinterpreting. the crazy news that was putting someone in danger was about anti administrative state operations so maybe it is the deep state – i do not know i am discombobulated right now as to what is going on there!

Roberta

The term has been there for months, if not years. A search of TH will bring up oodles…..A synonym, almost, for uniParty, except it includes the non-elected personnel.

andrew1979

thanks roberta i had not searched extensively. maybe it is just because i had not seen the term or noticed it at least in the last several months and it’s appearance 8 or 9 times in a couple days peaked my interest especially after recent events.

andrew1979

and just to add as others have also intimated, why use that phrase to focus the scope on uniparty and their henchmen when it is clear this is a group effort of global proportions?

Sylvia Avery

Don’t feel lonely! 🙁

Gudthots

Perhaps a euphemism for deepstate?

phoenixRising

Exactly!!! But it’s a narrow understanding of Deep State… which is Global.
If you read just the first para or two he defines it as DC (uniparty)
This from twitter… indicating Q supporters are responsible for House loss… voters stayed home.
Voters did NOT stay home… I don’t know what’s going on, but it’s malicious.

phoenixRising

Tone in the articles referencing Administrative State is dogmatic, strident. Also,
POTUS is viewed as having no power to thwart these people coming in…

andrew1979

ok yeah i just re-read some especially the first time i remember it – the post with the image of the mouse and mousetrap. it says he has just unlocked a mystery from a network he has been following for over a year that is “adverse to the administrative state” that is the same post it was stated this info he had to turn over to someone with a broader audience and also because it was sensitive and might get him or others in trouble (paraphrase).
so deep state turned to administrative state under our noses. and it appears we are not in a fight we can win and yada yada yada… wow. wtf is going on.

Gudthots

May I suggest…
Keep your eye on the ball, not the shiny objects.
Our beloved head treeper is NOT a productive focus.
“Psalm 123
A song of ascents.
1
I lift up my eyes to you,
to you who sit enthroned in heaven.
2
As the eyes of slaves look to the hand of their master,
as the eyes of a female slave look to the hand of her mistress,
so our eyes look to the Lord our God,
till he shows us his mercy.
3
Have mercy on us, Lord, have mercy on us,
for we have endured no end of contempt.
4
We have endured no end
of ridicule from the arrogant,
of contempt from the proud.”

andrew1979

believe me i would never put all my eggs in one basket if you know what i mean 🙂

Linda

I don’t know, but it doesn’t sound like Sundance to me. It hasn’t for awhile now.

wheatietoo

Thank you, Linda.
I have thought for a while, that something was ‘off’ with him.

wheatietoo

Yes, I know what you’re saying, andrew1979…and it is toxic.
That’s why I fled and cannot bear to go back.

scott467

“Yes, I know what you’re saying, andrew1979…and it is toxic.
That’s why I fled and cannot bear to go back.”
____________________
I would go back.
I want to engage the argument and expose the lack of logic and reasoning.
It’s just a very unfair fight, because SD doesn’t have to defend or explain his position, he can just ban you instead.
I would love to engage a discussion on this subject on a forum where SD can’t ban me. Not in a mean or vindictive way, that’s not what I mean at all, it’s just that you can’t have an honest discussion with someone who can BAN you on a whim.
I like Sundance, and I have great respect for his research and capabilities, and for the CTH website.
I don’t think SD like me though, and hasn’t from the beginning. He has never said a kind word to me that I recall. The only time he seemed to say anything to me was to try to throw something in my face or catch me in an inconsistency — which he didn’t, but he tried.
I don’t know for sure, but I think he got the wrong impression about me from the outset. I came from spending lots of time on boards like Townhall.com and Breitbart, where the authors of articles almost never post in the comments section.
So I was in the habit of ‘talking’ to the articles, ‘answering’ them, or ‘challenging’ things in the article, never expecting the author to even read it, much less reply to it.
And I think SD took that as some kind of personal attack, which it was never meant or intended to be.
Ad-rem was always kind to me though. If it was a case of ‘good cop / bad cop’, SD was bad cop and Ad-rem was good cop 😁

Cuppa Covfefe

I’d wondered where everyone was, and also the “house” had changed. Somehow the Sessions-haters and baiters, and a war in the branches. Maybe external pressure is being, erm, brought to bear?
Anyway, happy to see so many familiar “faces” here, and HI to all!

Sylvia Avery

There is so much doom and gloom I am frankly a bit shocked. This will sound egotistical and I seriously don’t mean it to but “the Purge” seems to have removed most of the leavening from the comments (that would be us and others like us 🙂 ). What’s left is heavy, flat, and sour.

scott467

I noticed that there seem to be a lot LESS comments than usual, too.
I doubt CTH has actually banned or suspended very many people, so there must be a fairly substantial number of less confrontational Treepers who have self-exiled.
Which means what remains is a much more concentrated (and therefore emboldened) group of confrontational Q-haters.
And if many are like ‘Newton Love’, then it’s turning into a SD worship blog.
That stuff is equal parts creepy and mock-worthy.
If I was SD and people posted worship-garbage like Newton Love did (and he’s not the only one), I’d tell people to cut it out. We’re supposed to be a team, and I’m not running a personality cult.
But I’ve never seen SD call them out, he let’s it go.
And that never goes unnoticed.
There are two ways you can go when confronted with that kind of adulation and idol-like worship.
……………………………
“And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. [26] But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.” (Acts 10:25, KJV)
“And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. [22] And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. [23] And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.” (Acts 12:21-23)
……………………………

scott467

And here:
“And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. [9] Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.” (Revelation 22:8-9)

Sylvia Avery

Thanks Scott, that was a pretty profound insight.
The slavish cult thing creeps me out, especially when combined with a baseball bat in the other hand to beat up on any transgressors so as to, what? earn brownie points?

Deplorable Patriot

Yep.

Sylvia Avery

Yes, I’ve been seeing that theme emerging more and more. POTUS the POWERLESS. POTUS the hapless victim who is going to get taken out by the Commies in the House come January, or taken down by the power of the Q, or something.
Okay, I don’t like the prospects of the Commies running the House, either, and I know full well they will come at PDJT with everything they’ve got.But I also know they have been coming at him since he brought up the birth certificate and look where he is now.
God chose Donald Trump for this time and this place, and if He chose him for this job well I have to believe He will give him a hand and that they will be able to handle a bunch of Commies.
(Unless Alicia Ocasio Whatever gets close enough to chomp PDJT with all those teeth, in which case all bets are off.)

scott467

“Yes, I’ve been seeing that theme emerging more and more. POTUS the POWERLESS. POTUS the hapless victim who is going to get taken out by the Commies in the House come January, or taken down by the power of the Q, or something.”
________________
Yes, the defeatism and hopelessness is palpable, and it drives me nuts, always has. That’s why I often reacted to it so strongly. A leader’s job is to lead, not to demoralize his own troops.
SD is claiming that Q caused low voter turnout, which allowed the Devilrats to win the House.
He has zero evidence for that claim.
On the other hand, we have plenty of evidence of MASSIVE voter fraud committed by the Devilrats, in Arizona, California and Florida. And those are just the ones we know about so far.
So I wonder which had the bigger effect.
1) Q motivating and uniting Patriots to get out the vote (which Q did, repeatedly, and which SD would know, if he ever bothered to check the Q board)
Or
2) Massive Devilrat election fraud
And IF there was massive election fraud (and there was, and it’s STILL going on!), then the “negative” outcome of the election had NOTHING to do with Q, or low voter turnout.
And besides all that, did DJT campaign for that many House candidates?
I don’t think so, he campaigned primarily for Senate seats and governors.
Considering all of the ‘retiring’ GOPe criminal Representatives, it’s a miracle we didn’t lose MORE seats in the House. Like DJT said in the press conference the next day, we actually did GREAT in that election.
Not up to our hopes and expectations, but historically speaking, it was better than anything Reagan, Clinton or Hussein every did, by far.
And SD knows ALL of that, better than I do.
But SD is looking for a whipping boy to blame the loss of the House on, and he has chosen Q to take the fall.
You can’t have it both ways.
If there was MASSIVE election fraud, then we’re going to LOSE lots of seats, no matter WHAT ‘Q’ did — at least until those fraudulent votes are exposed and overturned.
And this is the warning I gave to several CTH anti-Q zealots before I was banned:
What are you going to do, if it turns out you are wrong? You’re so far out on that limb, so completely invested in the certainty that you are ‘right’, how are you ever going to get back?
And that question goes triple for SD.
But the bigger problem is a personal one, for all of the Q-hating zealots.
If it turns out that they were wrong, when they were so certain they were right that they openly mocked and PURGED everyone who disagreed or just pleaded for an open mind — what else are they absolutely certain about in their lives, and just as completely wrong about?
How would you be able to ever trust your own judgement again, about anything, if you were so wrong about something that is right there in front of your face, begging you to examine it?
Nobody needs to ‘bet their life’ on this subject, EITHER way.
But the Q-haters are betting the farm that they’re right.
That’s going to be quite the bitter pill to swallow, if they turn out to be wrong.
And it’s like they never even considered that possible outcome.

Sylvia Avery

It is just so absurd to blame Q for losing the House. But then I find myself sputtering that same refrain over and over. This is absurd! Why, Sd knows better! What on earth? Absurd absurd absurd. I still can’t wrap my head around it. WTH?
You’re right about folks going way, way out on a limb. And to what end? Why on earth would they do that? It makes no sense to me.

andrew1979

here is a stumper for all those who blame a certain letter: if its so simple that q tricked everyone into not voting then are you saying that so many believe the q larp that it threw our who election away because of complacency? i don’t think so or else they are claiming that so many are in on it that it cost us our republic (or they see that coming anyway). seems like they go there first and then to voting fraud second. there is no way a q follower did not vote – and there is no way a q non-believer was convinced not to vote because they figured q had it covered… 🙂

Roberta

Q told us some time ago that the midterms were safe, but did not tell us what that meant.
Perhaps the House did not go to the Dems after all? How many races have been compromised by election fraud and will be straightened out by the security promised? Were there agents of the good implanted in county & state election offices? More than a dozen races, including House, Senate, & gubernatorial contests, were undecided as of Sunday morning, and that before the additional kerfuffle in Broward county Sunday evening:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/here-are-all-uncalled-house-senate-governor-races-n934541
Aren’t you all glad POTUS and his team have this???!!!

wheatietoo

“Future proves Past”…?
It would be epic, if a lot of people finally went down for election tampering.

andrew1979

this is the kind of stuff that kills me and hits very close to home if you know what i mean:
Maine’s 2nd Congressional District: With neither candidate topping the 50 percent threshold, the fate of Republican Rep. Bruce Poliquin and Democratic challenger Jared Golden will now be determined by a count of voters’ secondary preferences on the ranked-choice ballot. The wildcards here are two independent candidates, who together received almost 9 percent of the vote on election night. That share will now be redistributed to the two leading candidates.
so ranked choice voting at its finest right there!
not to mention we are almost a week out from elections and they want to make it so this is fine normal and democracy in motion!

scott467

Has SD lost his mind?
Did he crack?
For someone who has been a rock of careful analysis and fact gathering, does it strike anyone else as ‘odd’ that he is now engaging in rank speculation?
I mean, there is NO WAY to even begin to prove his assertion… he doesn’t even sound like Sundance, he sounds like any other crackpot on the Interwebs.
And he’s crazy if he thinks he can overcome the Q ‘movement’ for lack of a better term. Many others have tried, even back when millions fewer people were following Q’s posts, and all they did was hurt themselves and their own credibility in the process.
SD must know this, he must know that what he is doing is futile, not to mention throwing his own reputation (a serious thinker who only EVER deals in FACTS) under the bus, and yet he’s doing it anyway…

Sylvia Avery

The $64 million question for sure.

Sylvia Avery

Hm. It was interesting to read the replies to his tweet. Heheh.

scott467

Yes, Praying Medic made a very cogent, coherent, informed argument.
Sebastian Gorka, Scott Adams and SD are all experts in their chosen fields.
Those fields of expertise do not include Q, they have spent almost no time examining or trying to understand Q.
Therefore, their opinions about Q are, by definition, uninformed.

Sylvia Avery

Agree. BTW, Scott, I’m glad you’re here. I always took the time to read your comments over there. Whether or I agreed or not with what you said, I have always appreciated hearing your thoughts.

scott467

Thank you Sylvia, and I’m very glad to be here 🙂
I always read your posts too, I just don’t remember disagreeing with any of them 😁

Sylvia Avery

Ha, I honestly don’t recall disagreeing with any of yours, either. But your style was distinctive enough to stand out in the herd, and I always stopped to read what you wrote and being glad I did. I felt your opinions added to the discourse. And greedily I’m glad they are now adding to THIS discourse!

scott467

“But your style was distinctive enough to stand out in the herd, and I always stopped to read what you wrote and being glad I did.”
_________________
I’m pretty sure my ‘style’ is mostly a byproduct of my time spent in the fighting pits of the Breitbart comments sections.
That’s a BIG pond. Not sure what their volume is like today, but back then they frequently had 15,000+ comments to a single article, and the comments section moved FAST.
If you were going to be heard at all, you had to do something to get peoples’ attention, or you just get lost in the sea of posts.
It was great fun. I thought of it sort of like kicking in the door to a biker bar, and when everybody turned to look, saying ‘you guys are all a bunch of skirt-wearin’ sissies’.
And then it was ON, lol!
And you either have a strong argument, or you don’t, and you’ll find out quick in that situation. There’s really only two things they can do. They can either defeat your argument with facts/reason/logic, or they can attack you personally.
If you’re doing it right, they won’t ever defeat you with facts/reason/logic, because you should be sure your argument is solid before you begin.
So that just leaves personal attacks, lots of them, coming from multiple attackers.
Dealing with that is sort of like a stand-up comedian learning to deal with hecklers. After you do it long enough, there’s not a ‘room’ (crowd) or a heckler you can’t handle. Eventually, you have experienced all of the different types of heckling attacks, and you have a proven and successful counter-move for each one. And usually, the best way to handle a heckler is to make him look stupid in front of his friends. It makes everyone else in the ‘room’ laugh with you at the heckler. And unless the heckler is a fellow professional, the heckler doesn’t have anywhere near the amount of experience playing that game as you do, so you can be confident you’re going to destroy him. It’s not because you’re necessarily smarter than he is, it’s because he’s playing on YOUR turf. YOU have home field advantage, and you know that, but the heckler forgets.
So you learn to use people’s words against them, if they are attacking you personally. It becomes reflexive. If you have to think about it, you’re taking too long. You don’t really have to come up with anything, just take their own words and throw them back in their face, with a twist, either humorous or punishing.
And that was also (in part) the reason for developing the habit of quoting whatever I was replying to. First, if you quote someone, they can’t go back and change what they said. Well, they can, the edit button on Disqus still works, but by quoting someone in your own post, you can preserve the original record.
Second, it helps you to make sure you don’t mischaracterize someone else’s words. People are always trying to put words in other people’s mouths, and it’s easy for me to make that mistake too. Quoting someone makes it very clear what they actually said (as I’m typing out my reply), and quoting also makes it clear what PART of their post I am specifically responding to.
Coming from the chaos of Brietbart to CTH required toning things down a LOT. I think that’s what got me suspended the first time, shortly after I found CTH, I was still in ‘fight mode’ like I was at Breitbart, taking on everybody.
I had to dial it back a few notches. And that’s all well and good. Sometimes though, in the heat of a debate / argument, reflexes kick in, and I go too hard at someone who isn’t accustomed to it or expecting it, the way they expect it at a place like Breitbart.
So if I ever do that, then first I apologize, and second, just remind me that I’m among friends, not in a cage match on Breitbart — because occasionally I do forget 😁

Sylvia Avery

You definitely have a pretty direct, strong approach. Nothing wrong with that, though! We will always know what you think! I can see how the influences you describe have shaped your style. Makes sense.
I tend to be a lot more subtle and probably passive most of the time, but I enjoy strong opinions. I just don’t like mean and nasty, but I don’t recall you doing that.
Don’t worry, if you step on my toes I’ll let you know and I expect so will everyone else here. I don’t think any of us are exactly shrinking violets so I expect we’ll do just fine

scott467

This is something I like about Wolf’s website already, we can have a ‘discussion’ here, like we were sitting across from each other at a kitchen table.
“You definitely have a pretty direct, strong approach. Nothing wrong with that, though! We will always know what you think!”
_______________
So long as you remember that what I think is usually irrelevant (except to me, of course!). The search for truth doesn’t care about my opinion, so I try not to care about it either, at least for argument’s sake.
‘Argument’ is a means for finding truth.
Someone presents an ‘argument’ for examination. Either it can be defeated, have holes poked in it, or it can’t.
When you do that with one person, it’s hard to ‘A-B’ test your argument, because you only have one person ‘attacking’ the argument, trying to ‘break’ it.
But on the Internet, on a big enough forum, you could have THOUSANDS of people testing your argument, trying to ‘break’ it. And you can see HOW they are trying to ‘break’ your argument by what they are attacking, and how.
So the ‘crowd’ identifies the weak spots in your ‘argument’, and you shore those up, whether that means more research to back up a specific point, or eliminating a weak point that isn’t really necessary to the argument, or reconciling an unforeseen contradiction, or re-working some part of the argument to flow better, step by step, to the conclusion.
In fairly short order, thanks to the volume of ‘people’ in the ‘internet audience’ giving you feedback (by testing and attacking your argument), you can create an argument that cannot be defeated. And it’s fun. It’s a sort of game, to challenge the ‘intellect’ of the collective ‘audience’ to defeat your argument. It’s fun to throw an argument ‘out there’, to make some bold declaration / argument, and then step back to see if anyone can defeat it 🙂
If nobody can defeat it, then you probably have a pretty solid argument, and have most likely arrived at some kind of ‘truth’ in the process.
.
.
“I tend to be a lot more subtle and probably passive most of the time, but I enjoy strong opinions. I just don’t like mean and nasty, but I don’t recall you doing that.”
________________
I like to counter-punch, mostly. Although it might not seem like it, because the nature of argument online being what it is, I often provoke the first punch, and then I counter-punch. I don’t want to be mean to anyone though, I just like playing the game.
Most people don’t like strong opinions (besides their own!), so it is very helpful to present the argument in the form of a series of rhetorical questions. Most people are more receptive to a series of rhetorical questions (sort of employing the Socratic Method) than a series of declarations, even though you end up at the same conclusion.
And it’s fun. Human beings tend to improve and get better at things they enjoy, and things that challenge them.
With the Internet, there is never any shortage of people to challenge, or to challenge you back — any time, day or night, 24/7/365 😁

Plain Jane

Awful of her/him to tweet such stuff. Is that person even real?

Sylvia Avery

Administrative State used to be used by the Communists, IIRC, to describe basically what I guess I’d call the bureaucracy.

Roberta

Yikes! Would someone more experienced than I please go read the post at CTH (“Comprehending The DOJ/FBI Administrative State Battle…”) and pay particular attention to the last line? I rather want to ask “Who are you and what have you done with sundance?”
Here is the comment I just posted:
“Interesting….I don’t recall SD ever asking his readership, essentially, for “permission” to continue his line of research/thought…until now. Definitely food for thought.”

wheatietoo

And the SD that we have known over the years…would never try to dox and expose the White Hats who have been releasing evidence to us.
But that’s exactly what SD called for in his “Countermeasures and Questions” thread.

Sylvia Avery

Yes. Just one more shock to my system.

andrew1979

so if sessions was bad… but he chose whitaker as his chief of staff who in all probability would take over for him if he left… and president trump had an open letter of resignation letter from sesssions he could use to promote whitaker… then does that mean sessions was good?
that will not go over well at the TH if all the newest sessions bashers (who claimed they knew all the time but didnt want to admit it even while they were being rude to then seasions bashers) are going to have to go back to sessions supporters?

andrew1979

btw my ridiculous spelling is a function of being in bed with a cold using a foolish tablet and no autocorrect or suggestion function on the keyboard. so hopefully nobody is offended. i could care less really at 3am 🙂

Roberta

’tis difficult to offend me. Takes too much energy.
I have been embarrassed by the typos in my posts here, especially after having noted I am an editor. Sheesh!

scott467

Roberta, did you see the REPLY to your post by ‘Newton Love’?!?
It’s like a cross between a blatant personal attack (not allowed by CTH rules) and some kind of Purple Kool-Aid chugging, SD worshipping cult follower.
Unreal…
Just look at this!
If I was still allowed to post there, I would have great fun ripping this clown post shreds…
……………………………..
Newton Love says:
November 12, 2018 at 2:50 am
> “… I don’t recall SD ever asking his readership, essentially, for “permission” to continue his line of research/thought…until now. …”
The stupid is strong in this one.
Sundance writes, we read.
He didn’t beg you, or any of us to be Treepers.
He writes, and provides analysis of what he thinks is really going on in American politics.
If his writing resonates with the reader’s mind, they may become a Treeper.
If Sundance’s posts fly zoom over the head of the reader, then we have “the other guys” attempting to hang on to a strap in the Treeper Express.
Roberta, the Conservative Tree House (CTH) is not a democracy. It is a school, where Headmaster Sundance, and occasionally someone else, will post a thoughtful analysis and decomposition of a current event.
If you lack the scholastic prerequisites of independent thought and critical reasoning, then you will flunk out of the CTH!
…………………………….

scott467

edit / correction: “…ripping this clown post TO shreds.”

Roberta

Thank you, Scott, for the information and the defense. And thank you to all others who defended me.
My comment was essentially a test, as most of you perceive.
Mr Love really doesn’t want to see my “credentials” and I have no est in wasting energy engaging in a personal debate. THAT is stoopid! Some folks who have literally saved hundreds from the corruption you all are fighting think highly of those editorial/research credentials I have mentioned. ‘Nuff.
I will keep checking in over there for real information, but lurk as I primarily have since first finding CTH after I went looking for info on then candidate DJT.
Blessings on you all.

Sylvia Avery

OMG, I just went to see. Saw these responses you your very neutral (I thought) post:
“Uncompliant
Roberta
52m ago
You make it sound bad. It is not *permission* but — in my view — a technique for generating self-teaching among us who are reading.”
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I about choked on my chimichanga. That is what Q wants us to do, but now it is being appropriated as S[ ] way of schooling us. Good grief! And then this was the kicker:
“Newton Love
Roberta
30m ago
> “… I don’t recall SD ever asking his readership, essentially, for “permission” to continue his line of research/thought…until now. …”
The stupid is strong in this one.
Sundance writes, we read.
He didn’t beg you, or any of us to be Treepers.
He writes, and provides analysis of what he thinks is really going on in American politics.
If his writing resonates with the reader’s mind, they may become a Treeper.
If Sundance’s posts fly zoom over the head of the reader, then we have “the other guys” attempting to hang on to a strap in the Treeper Express.
Roberta, the Conservative Tree House (CTH) is not a democracy. It is a school, where Headmaster Sundance, and occasionally someone else, will post a thoughtful analysis and decomposition of a current event.
If you lack the scholastic prerequisites of independent thought and critical reasoning, then you will flunk out of the CTH!”
***************
I shouldn’t be, but I’m shocked at the vitriol your really simple post produced. I have seen the handle Newton Love but it’s one I have passed over so I don’t have a sense of him. Apparently I passed him by with good reason.

andrew1979

i wouldn’t let it get to you. this whole thing is kind of strange though, and i get it that people felt like i ternet family or whatever, so there are feelings involved as it were.division of MAGA groups is the enemy aand what we need to stop.
honestly that run of rallys that happened for two months, and the final couple weeks were so much a force in bringing the presidents supporters – patriots – together was amazing. and as soon as the last one was over its been one thing after another to demoralize. we need some kick butt action soon!

wheatietoo

Eww…that’s some real SD worshipping going on now.comment image
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Glad I am staying away…it’s been nice.
Thanks, Sylvia, Scott and Roberta…for being brave souls, brave enough to go watch the dumpster fire and report back.

Sylvia Avery

I love that picture!

scott467

Newton Love
Roberta
30m ago
> “… I don’t recall SD ever asking his readership, essentially, for “permission” to continue his line of research/thought…until now. …”
Newton: “The stupid is strong in this one.”
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Is that the voice of experience talking, Newt?
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“Sundance writes, we read.”
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Then STFU already.
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“He didn’t beg you, or any of us to be Treepers.”
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Who claimed that he did?
I’m getting a towel ready for you, I get the feeling you’re gonna need it.
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“He writes, and provides analysis of what he thinks is really going on in American politics.”
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What does that make you, his dog?
Are you his self-appointed ‘defender’ now, bravely saving him from Roberta?
LOL!
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“If his writing resonates with the reader’s mind, they may become a Treeper.”
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Sounds religious. How long have you been operating this cult?
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“If Sundance’s posts fly zoom over the head of the reader, then we have “the other guys” attempting to hang on to a strap in the Treeper Express.”
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Voice of experience again?
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“Roberta, the Conservative Tree House (CTH) is not a democracy.”
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No, apparently it is become a house of tools.
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“It is a school, where Headmaster Sundance, and occasionally someone else, will post a thoughtful analysis and decomposition of a current event.”
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There’s a lot of ‘decomposition’ going on here all right… lol!
Pupil Newton, report to the Headmaster!
ROTFLMAO!
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“If you lack the scholastic prerequisites of independent thought and critical reasoning, then you will flunk out of the CTH!”
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What a public embarrassment. Here, take this towel and wipe the sh!t off your nose, and try to keep it out of Sundance’s keister while you worship.
What a complete and utter tool…

Sylvia Avery

Ha, ha, Scott, I liked it much better after you got done with it!
I was just appalled when I read that. And reading it again, I’m as shocked as I was the first time. WTF?
I’m starting to think some of ac keebler’s laser brain feed wormhole microwaves (or whatever he’s always on about that I don’t understand) have been spewing poison up into people’s brains through their eyeballs as they read.

Roberta

Thank you. That is why I requested someone with more experience than [@ CTH] take look.

Roberta

Good grief, why can’t I type a cogent sentence these days?!? It was supposed to read …”more experience than I [@ CTH]…

Emeraldstar

Karma, for teaching us about the grocer’s apostrophe?
Hehehe – just having fun!
No worries!

scott467

Roberta,
I posted a reply to ‘Newton Love’ for you below.
If I wasn’t banned already, I might be after that one, but only if SD was providing cover for the new CTH brownshirts.

Sylvia Avery

Anyone know this Newton Love or having previous interactions? Hours later and I am still in a state of shock.

Sylvia Avery

*have any previous interactions
Sorry, tired, typos.

Cuppa Covfefe

Shovel-ready. Showed up around the times of the Sessions wars. Folks who support(ed) Sessions have been met with extremely snarky “I told you so’s”. And I guess I’m a Pollyanna… The “Gloom, Despair, and Agony on me”, and, in general, the combative atmosphere is stultifying. Sad.
mazziflol posted “Opinion Rhapsody” (parody of Bohemian Rhapsody) which pretty much describes a lot of the blogosphere. Well done, and whoever did it has a great voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IABRgZH12YA

justgoodcovfefe

Well, thats the most relevant parody of Bohemian Rhapsody evah!!!

andrew1979

strange though after this new revelation theres a swing toward should we trust sessions again? not everyone of course but its there.

scott467

This one is amusing. Drunk guy in the back of a cop car starts singing Bohemian Rhapsody. It’s a LONG song, he’s in a stupor, and yet I don’t think he missed a single word!

Gudthots

NL is not the most nuanced of characters.
Remember Wolf’s admonition to forgive and stay engaged?
If there is no will to deal with the nasties, our only tactic seems to be adding more of the good stuff and sticking with the power of dilution.

Roberta

Thank you, sir knight.

Sylvia Avery

Well, the t-house has posted the article that outs Whitaker as the one who revealed all the information as we have been speculating.
I am puzzled by this, also. It was obvious two days ago what S[ ] was leading up to as Wheatie has noted. Whitaker was going to be outed. And so he has.
Here’s a link to an interesting comment (and here I was going to stay away from the comments–face palm):
“If SD is so concerned with the “damage” Q is doing to the Presidents cause, I have to wonder what this bit of speculation will do.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/12/the-cleaner/#comment-6317041

Deplorable Patriot

I saw that piece and tried not to laugh. It’s pretty well known outside of CTH that Page and Strzok did their own leaking. Both of them got burned and they knew it, and they cooperated. I think it was Wolfe who gave a report to his reporter girlfriend. None of that was Whitaker.
Whoever wrote that is looking for a reason to put a stigma on Whitaker.
I agree with others posting here. Something strange is going on over at CTH. It’s like the site has been hijacked over time. Speculation will get us nowhere, though.

Plain Jane

Over time, yes, but the current site person, whoever that currently is, gave permission for the werewolves to suck blood out of P and us, bigly.