Dear KMAG: 20230626 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.

Next week, we will start a new half-year of Monday posts.

I may take some liberties with the format! Be brave!

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

‘Cuz Wheatie Sez!

Just like Trump!

So HOLD ON for the ride of your life!



by Duchess01

Please forgive us, Wheatie, we did not know
That you had left us with armor in tow
We had no idea with what you dealt
We did not know the pain you felt
And now we can only imagine
With you what really did happen
Cause rarely did you complain 
And/or share your personal pain
Of one thing we are most certain
You are flying high behind the curtain
Watching over us above the crowds
Our Warrior Angel above the clouds
Thank You, Wheatie, for caring for us
While you were here among the fuss
We miss you dear you have no idea
Since time began in the pangaea
With you there was no time
In your wisdom you would chime
To clarify and magnify
The what where how and why
We did not question when you left
We were not slightly bereft
But over time we wondered why
You did not at least stop by
Now we know where you have gone
With the break of this new dawn
We could be angry but are not
Tho with an arrow we’ve been shot
Rest peacefully Warrior Angel dear
Send us a sign that you are near
A butterfly a flower a kiss of rain
From your love do not refrain
God sends Angels to watch over us
And now we have an Angel Plus
A Warrior Angel of Magnificence
From today and forward hence


The Rules


Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Boilerplate, more or less, but worth reading again and again, if only for the minor changes, and to stay out of moderation.


Now shortened.

Give them nothing.

Play smart. Every minute, the COUPISTS who stole the election – who lied – who deserve to be at the business end of the very same laws they are using so wrongly against the January Sixth defendants – are trying to set you up. Don’t be a chump. Turn everything back against THEM. Every day, every hour, every minute, every second.



Occam’s Razor – Fed Entrapment

YOU are responsible for your own comments, if they come knocking. YOUR choice. Just remember this…..

For an updated version…..

And for a version that includes your having righteously defended yourself…..


The bottom line is Free Speech. Theories and ideas you don’t agree with must be WELCOME here, and you must be part of that welcoming. But you do NOT need to be part of any agreement.

Bottom line – respect other people’s FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

Our only additional requirement is that you do so NICELY. Or at least try to make some effort in that direction.


We must endeavor to persevere to love our frenemies – even here.

Those who cannot deal with this easy requirement will be forced to jump the hoops of moderation, so that specific comments impugning other posters and violating the minimal rules can be sorted out and tossed in the trash.

In Wheatie’s words, “We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

That includes the life skill of just ignoring certain other posters.

We do have a site – The U Tree – where civility is not a requirement. Interestingly, people don’t really go there much. Nevertheless, if you find yourself in an “argument” that can’t really stay civil, please feel free to “take it to the U Tree”. The U Tree is also a good place to report any technical difficulties, if you’re unable to report them here. Please post your comment there on one of Wolf’s posts, or in reply to one of Wolf’s comments, to make sure he sees it (though it may take a few hours).

We also have a backup site, called The Q Tree as well, which is really The Q Tree 579486807. You might call it “Second Tree”. The URL for that site is If this site ( ever goes down, please reassemble at the Second Tree.

If the Second Tree goes down, please go to The U Tree, or to our Gab Group, which is located at

We also have some “old rules” and important guidelines, outlined here, in a very early post, on our first New Year’s Day, in 2019. The main point is not to make violent threats against people, which then have to be taken seriously by law enforcement, and which can be used as a PRETEXT by enemies of this site.

In the words of Wheatie, “Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

A Moment of Prayer

Our policy on extreme religious freedom on this site is discussed HERE. Please feel free to pray and praise God anytime and anywhere.

Thus, please pray for our real President, the one who actually won TWO elections.

You may also pray for our nation, our world, and even our enemies.

Musical Interlude

In honor of dear Wheatie, we now present some music to soothe, inspire, invigorate, or relax.

Gotta listen to “Drinkaby again! That’s in the RULES now! (JUST KIDDING)

Sorry – can’t keep this one out of my head, so gotta make myself sick of it first!

So here you go – Drinkaby first DONE, then explained – in English and Chinese.

Some interesting background on the song:

I think I may be done with the line dances, but here’s a live version in ST. LOUIS!

Was DePat sneaking into a Cole Swindell concert? You never know! And if I did, I wouldn’t be telling!

Call To Battle

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

The replies. Oh, the replies!

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.

Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:



  • A violent collapse inward, as of a highly evacuated glass vessel.
  • Violent compression.
  • The inward collapse of a building that is being demolished in a controlled fashion by the weakening and breaking of structural members by explosives.

Use in politics:

Typically, the term means the collapse or crisis of some political entity due to internal shortcomings or some kind of self-inflicted damage.

Recently, almost entirely used against Trump, and rarely against Democrats unless there is internal party criticism involved.

How implosion was likely experienced on the Titan:

What is an implosion, and what would it have been like for the Titan sub passengers?

The Titan submersible was so deep, experts told NBC News, that the forces crushing it would have been equivalent to the weight of the Eiffel Tower.

The deep-sea water pressure that appears to have crushed the 22-foot craft would have been roughly equivalent in weight to the 10,000-ton, wrought-iron Eiffel Tower, experts told NBC News on Friday. The colossal forces would have acted so quickly that it would be like the vehicle’s carbon-fiber hull “suddenly vanishing” before anyone inside knew what was happening, one expert said.

“They would have known nothing — the minute this body of water hit them, they would have been dead,” said Paul White, a professor at England’s University of Southampton, who specializes in underwater acoustics and forces.

“The air inside would compress down to a point, and the forces of the water rushing in and the collapse would be enormous,” he said. “Structurally,” he added, it would be equivalent of the capsule housing the crew “suddenly vanishing.”

“This whole process from start to finish is happening in the blink of an eyelid, the click of a finger,” he said. “I don’t think there would have been any suffering or any knowledge of what happened.”

What is Known About Submarine Implosions:


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At any given time, BiteMe has no idea what he is saying.

Through the fog of dementia, BiteMe recalls F-16s AND ice cream. Nothing More.


“At any given time, BiteMe has no idea what he is saying.”
That is why he is so unstable and dangerous .

Barb Meier

FTA: “But it remains unclear why military pseudo-professionals might think they will do better against 100,000,000 patriots here at home when the brass did so poorly against a few hundred thousand fanatical hill tribesmen half a globe away. At least a grizzled dust puppet like Biden has an excuse for being wrong – he was always stupid and evil and corrupt, and now he’s added a layer of senility to his bean dip o’ failure.”


RFK Jr.: “Expect Rolling Stone to lead the corporate media’s frantic crusade to vilify me to stop my White House bid. Rolling Stone was once the premier standard-bearer of the counterculture. Now it’s a channel for Establishment propaganda.”


But the thrill we’ve never known
Is the thrill that’ll getcha
When you get yer picture
On the cover of the Neo-Con


Wanna see my picture on the cover
Wanna buy five copies for my mother…
Wanna see my smilin’ face
On the cover of the Neo-Con 😁


I always wanted my poor ol’ grey-haired daddy to drive my limousine, but he’s now legally blind.


Shouldn’t be a problem in Hotel California. Just tell ’em he’s a wetback.


“Buy 5 copies for my mother” 😂


Very good. Kudos.



The Clowns start a counter culture, which many of us unknowingly jumped into with both feet causing all sorts of nastiness and moral failure over the years. Then they step back in when the counter culture is in leadership roles and use it control the narratives with those who never wised up. Yeah for the Rolling Stone, The Gray Lady, The Compost, etc.

Just look at it this way with the artists and musicians. Natural selection into the abyss of human history. Roll out the next counter culture, rinse and repeat. Quite the system of evil. And for what, to gain more control over a planet that will be cleansed by the Creator in a nanosecond?

The height of arrogance and stupidity IMO.


That’s an interesting video on submarine implosions. The more that I see from the body of knowledge about this subject, the more I wonder how a company like OceanGate thought it could be successful at such deep depths. Maybe the fact that they had accomplished some successful missions made them less careful, but I can’t imagine taking that kind of risk.


“They didn’t think about safety like 50 year-old white guys think about safety.”





It’s like we’re a ‘basket of Deplorables’, all over again 😂


Proudly so.


“They didn’t think about safety like 50 year-old white guys think about safety.”

That is why the 50 year old got to be 50






Profound! 👍🏼

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A saying in aviation:

There are bold pilots, and there are old pilots. But there are no old, bold pilots.


Except Maverick, of course!

I haven’t seen the new one yet, but since the first one was 37 years ago, he has to be getting old.

And if he wasn’t still bold… well, the movie isn’t titled Safe Gun, you know… 😂

Valerie Curren

It’s a good movie so you should check it out, imo 😉


That is what my husband always says .


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The Paws That Refreshes


Sweden Shocks Europe: Abandons ‘Unstable’ Green Energy Agenda, Returns to Nuclear Power

In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”

Svantesson said wind and solar power are too “unstable” to meet the nation’s energy requirements. Instead, she said, the Swedish government is shifting back to nuclear power and has scrapped its goal of a “100 percent renewable energy” supply to meet the nation’s energy requirement, as reported by Slay.


Fantasy, meet Reality. Reality, meet Fantasy.

I’m sure you two can get along.



Thanks for the laugh!


In general that have been an intelligent population through the years with dependence on 50 year old white guys, right Scott? 😂


“I’ve always relied on the kindness of 50 year old white guys,” she says, in her best Blanche Dubois imitation.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Dangit that makes be too old for you.


Should’ve read “50+!”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ah, so there’s hope after all.


Common sense.

Hope it is contagious.

Cuppa Covfefe

It is. There are a number of countries forming a union for nuclear energy, something like 16 or 18 of them. The only hard holdout is Germany, with Robert Habeck (a fairy-tale writer by trade) and his gangGreen gubmint fools.

But the AfD are still climbing in the polls, and the pressure is rising for Habeck to change course, especially as businesses are starting to leave Germany in droves, due to the high energy (and other) prices…

And to think, the greens have a disproportionate amount of power, considering they only have 14 percent of the vote…….


Welp, that’s one way to keep the Huns and Nazis from being an even worse menace to the world again.

No wonder their car manufacturers invested into American plants so heavily. They knew where all this was going a couple of decades ago.


Could not agree more.

Cuppa Covfefe

Now they’re going to eastern Europe and Asia, as they see the same thing happening with Bye,Dumb’s killing off of cheap energy and infrastructure. And the chemical plants (BASF, etc.) are heading out; steel and aluminum are already gone 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

And calling Germans a menace to the world is painting with a VERY broad brush. Log and eye and all that. Hitler was an Austrian, btw. And Americans financed him…..


Germans always lived in the cloud of fantasy. I can say that having been raised there. Saw it first hand still hear from relatives. They like to run full speed into the unknown and pretend they know the outcome.

Cuppa Covfefe

Depends on what part of Germany. The north is really LEFT, one might say, while the south, Baden-Württemberg and Bayern, are conservative, even though Kretschmann is a Green.

The Oberbürgermeister of Tübingen, Boris Palmer, is also quite conservative for a Green (and quite a character), to the point that he’s left the Green Party. Yet he’s popular, and, of course, has both good and bad ideas, which comes from leading a University town, albeit one of the oldest in Europe.

Schaffe, schaffe, Häusle Baue [work, work, build a house]… to which I add, build it for me here right now!
The mostly conservative, hard-working south of Germany basically makes all the money; the north of Germany, being liberal, spends it. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that due to the reactors being shut down and other GangGreen madness, there is a relative energy shortage in the industrialized south, and a sometimes HUGE surplus in the windfarm north. The north-south divide is getting worse, and the high-tension power line running from the windfarms to where the reactors were down here is adding human tensions of its own.

Bring back the nukes, and the industries will stay. Otherwise they’ll run to eastern Europe and Asia, or the BRICS states…


Thank you good info 🙂
I grew up in the North and am aware of left but there are pockets of conservative.
Bremen, Hamburg is fat left. Hannover not as much


“Depends on what part of Germany. The north is really LEFT, one might say, while the south, Baden-Württemberg and Bayern, are conservative, even though Kretschmann is a Green.”


Left is a mental illness, should probably check for something like lead pipes in the water supply.

Green is a pagan religious cult.

Conservatives are just regular people, trying to survive the crazy cults.


You mean like Adolph did?

Cuppa Covfefe

He was an Austrian… and a Satanist…

(Adolf, btw)…


Oh, just ph off!  😂 


Sad time in history and horrific.


“They like to run full speed into the unknown and pretend they know the outcome.”


Sounds like they need more ~50 year old white guys 👍


Always delete everything past the question mark before posting links. And include the question mark.

Just trying to be helpful.  🙄 


Thanks. Trying to learn something. That’s a link to an article, not a pic or a graphic. So with links to articles, it’s best to delete everything after the question mark? Is there a reason for that?


Thank you!


Good to know, thanks.


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US Capitol Police whistleblower says that @SpeakerMcCarthy

is not delaying release of the J6 videos, but that the general counsel for the @CapitolPolice

is holding it up. Allegations of ethics violations by Chief Thomas Manger and more. @OversightPR


In league with Pelosi!


They were all over it.


Of course CP were in on it. Opened doors. Directed folks further inside. Launched flash bangs, tear gas…

Never told the truth about LE that died, when they died, circumstances…

It is all a lie.

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“US Capitol Police whistleblower says that @SpeakerMcCarthy is not delaying release of the J6 videos, but that the general counsel for the @CapitolPolice is holding it up.”


It’s all lies.

Like these ass-clowns don’t know how to release it themselves, which they would have done weeks ago, if they were serious.


…if they were serious.

We know they are not, serious.


OK – I’m going to go there with just my opinion, so don’t even try IC.

If more citizens knew that DC is not part of the United States of America and exists as a separately chartered entity similar to London, Vatican City, etc.; would it make a difference in how they see and understand the activities of the government and politicians?

Would Nanner extending the authority of the CP into other areas of the country make better sense?

Would calling a COS where the states could force the feds back into their box, limit their reach via the Constitution, starve them out and bankrupt them via the loss of tax revenues, and take over of the Treasury (end the Fed) click in all of our minds?

When innocent J6 participants came to that lions den that day many did so as lambs led to the slaughter. Others came as willing observers as well as participants in the sting that seems to be underway IMO. It takes more than a minute to overturn the atrocities of post Civil War activities that were implemented in 1913.

McCarthy works for the corporation. He has to follow the rules of engagement and DC laws. PDT said things would be done lawfully. They have been and he has always won. He set the response tactics to the conditions on the ground. That means it has all been gamed out. Which is why they call it a movie. Scenes may be cut and others added to come to the happy ending. People need to be led to the precipice first to fully understand just how deep and convoluted this mess is.

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1) They would not believe D.C. is like The City of London
2) They would/do not believe The City of London, a mile square financial center … exists (after all goggle doesn’t say it does)
3) PDT did not always win …
4) I could go on …

WHY do the people need to be led to the precipice? When in history has that notion been applied BEFORE the usurpers were removed or prevented from successfully enacting a coup?

Not directing my inquiry to you in particular TradeBait… I simply don’t buy any of that narrative… and I sure don’t buy waking up sufficient normies … look at the lockdowns, the vax etc and the numbers who bought into that narrative …

Nevermind … I’ll go back to fighting the squirrels, who are outsmarting me at every turn… so much for human intelligence…

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WHY do the people need to be led to the precipice? When in history has that notion been applied BEFORE the usurpers were removed or prevented from successfully enacting a coup?

As you know, this is something that comes up all the time. I can understand why people think this, but I don’t know if it’s necessarily true. One factor is that the United States is unique in history in that our Constitution is supposed to prevent coups and dictators and democratic overthrows by the people. So the theory is that if you just wake up enough Americans, they will see what’s going on and we can fix things without bloodshed.

But will that work? And how long should you give the people to “wake up”? How many proofs of treason, including stealing an election and having corrupt judges uphold the results, have to be published for people to be led to the precipice? No one can define where the precipice lies.

I think the more people who are awake, the better, but I’m not sure that waiting for a certain percentage of people to wake up should be the only strategy. I don’t think that is necessarily what Q meant, either. We have to be fighting on multiple fronts at once and strategically changing strategy when necessary. I think that is what PDJT does, and is doing.

Good luck with the squirrels. They are very smart and resourceful!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Our system also presumes the press won’t just carry water for the people in power.

You wonder how many proofs of treason people have to see.

I submit to you that most people in this country haven’t seen any.


Which is the problem. They know the word, but they don’t know what it entails even if it smacks them in the face.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If by “they” you mean the press, well, the’re part of it.

If by “they” you mean the general public, you may have missed my point…people haven’t seen any because the press hasn’t shown it to them.

If less than a majority of people in this country get their news from the Yellow Stream Media, then don’t just color me surprised, do it in full raging technicolor.


Media. Beyond their puppet masters, the average media reporter knows, but sells the BS to make a living while rationalizing what they do.

There are enough people who know to make them and their employers miserable. MAGA knows. They just refrain from doing so. Which has been Scott’s point.


I submit to you that most people in this country haven’t seen any.

Which highlights a major problem with the “precipice” theory. Breaking through the media blockade has to be accomplished. Progress is being made, but not nearly enough and not fast enough.

Cuppa Covfefe

As my Dad used to say, sometimes to get a mule’s attention, you have to use a two-by-four…

Not everyone is a born skeptic, nor does everyone see through the various diversions and smoke screens at first go…


My dad used to say, “A word to the wise is sufficient.” The mules are not “the wise.” 😂

Cuppa Covfefe

Ahh, but the mules outnumber the wise, by a long shot…


Better hope the squirrels never team up with the crows.


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It’s like the Dems calling us “deplorables,” “bitter clingers,” and the like. They haven’t noticed that we take the slur, make it our own, wear it as a badge of honor, and put it right back in their faces? American patriots have been doing that since “Yankee Doodle.”


“Seriously, who’s advising these people?”


Certainly not men.

It’s people like Christine the Botox and Vaseline queen.

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And so should I! Thanks.


How’s your border, Gov. RINO?



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Garth luvs him some Tranny.


In Japan:

The LGBT law was passed less than 2 weeks ago & already it’s effects are being felt.

2 days ago a Drag Queen story hour for young Japanese Children was held in Museum of Contemporary Art Tokyo.

Japan’s now fully infiltrated & the best thing we can do is call out the subversion.


Japan, WAS a conservative society.


This is what works.

Always has, always will.



FINALLY someone pulled the masks off of these plants.

What took so long to figure that out?

Now that it has happened once, it will happen everywhere, and the masked Fed boi brigades will vanish.


Now someone needs to show up to his crib and start talkin’ to his homies about what a fine Fed he is.


Remove the masks and they try to cover their faces with their hands, as if they’ll melt. They look like such weaklings in their masks and sunglasses.


Every child in the world knows that works.

They deal with it every day, on the playground and everywhere else.

It’s only when people grow up that many of them get amnesia.

Except the bad guys.

They remember what works.

That’s why they win all the time.

Because nobody even tries to fight back.

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Benny’s video is now up to 30,200,000 views.

Roughly equivalent to 10% of the U.S. population.


“Japan’s now fully infiltrated & the best thing we can do is call out the subversion.”


If that’s the ‘best you can do’ then you have no intention of winning.

And if you have no intention of winning, then you’re a mole, a plant, an enemy agent.


Uh, it’s a foreign country.


Yes, I looked it up, it appears to be an island nation, somewhere in the Pacific.

The author of the tweet is someone called “Colonel Otaku Gatekeeper”, who describes himself as a Japanese nationalist and Investigative Journalist.

Otaku said “Japan’s now fully infiltrated & the best thing we can do is call out the subversion.”

So I replied “If that’s the ‘best you can do’ then you have no intention of winning. And if you have no intention of winning, then you’re a mole, a plant, an enemy agent.”

I said this because I have observed, that when words (like calling out subversion) are used to combat actions, those who took action always win.

Like when the Fed bois show up and pretend to be American Nazis.

We could fill the universe with memes so thick that light could no longer travel, and it would have ZERO effect on the masked ‘American Nazi’ Fed boi brigades.

But just a dozen men taking action, getting in their faces, ripping their masks off and throwing them down in the street, made the Fed bois run away like little girls.

This can hardly be surprising, to anyone who recalls that sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.

Words, like ‘calling out’ the subversion, don’t hurt them. The Japan gov’t infiltrators don’t even notice people like Otaku, because they don’t hang out in Otaku’s social circles, and they don’t waste their time reading plebe memes. They’re too busy taking action and winning, unopposed.

Just like the our gov’t infiltrators don’t notice any of our plebe memes and bitter complaints.

Why would they?

But when somebody shows up to confront them, and makes them cry and run away, they definitely notice that.

That actually works.

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ThanQ. I just knew that would wind you up.





Like ours.


At least they still like baseball.


Oh no.


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Oh yes me please thank you


Got me a forever pass, on the Trump Train. 


Me too 🙂

Valerie Curren

golden ticket 🙂


I’m not entirely buying the nbc “expert”‘s take on the sub’s implosion. It seems very “click-bait-ish”, with the weight of the Eiffel Tower and all.

That said, it seems that the general timeline is becoming clearer. The intended dive profile was a two-hour descent, a few hours motoring around, and a two-hour ascent. There was an automatic emergency ballast release system at 14 hours.

The construction of the pressure hull was two half spheres of titanium, bridged by a tube of carbon-fiber. Carbon-fiber uses sheets or strips of a carbon “fabric” (that can be cut using ordinary scissors) that are impregnated and coated with a resin, very similar to fiberglass. This tube was in excess of five inches thick.

Even though carbon-fiber is exceptionally strong in many ways, its stiffness creates a weakness in that repeated applications of force may cause micro-cracks to form. If and when it does fail, it can delaminate and pieces of the carbon mesh and resin can start to break off. When this happens, the exposed edge is further weakened and can continue to shred.

For purely personal reasons, which I will go into below, I strongly expect that the original discontinuity was where the carbon fiber was bolted to the titanium. Something cracked, and seawater forced itself into the carbon fiber matrix — perhaps between a bolt and a dome, or between two layers of the carbon fiber. This created a spreading weak zone in the pressure vessel. At this point, there would be nothing to notice without very sophisticated instruments looking in exactly the right place.

Within milliseconds, this weak area would spread to an area the size of a credit card. It may have been under the “floor” or behind some equipment, but there would be no time to turn and look at it even if it were in plain sight. There would be no “drip, drip, drip” — the crack would expand until a piece of the pressure hull the size of a quarter was propelled into the cabin at the speed of a bullet. Behind it would be a solid shaft of seawater.

Only the fastest of high-speed cameras could capture the ensuing chaos. Even as the first piece of hull was in flight and the water stabbing inside behind it, similar pieces would be ripped from the edge of the hole. If someone were unlucky enough to be right in front of the first dozen pieces, the effect would initially be similar to a shotgun blast. The edges of the hole would keep expanding, however, turning a five-inch thick chunk of composite material into pieces the size of quarters and hurling them into the compartment. Some of them may even go across the compartment and begin to damage the other side of the pressure cylinder from the inside.

Nobody inside has any time to react, blink, or feel pain. The pressure is shredding the edges of the original rift and water and debris are flying everywhere. Whatever air is inside the pressure vessel heats rapidly from pressure, but the only bubbles where this can be observed are in the titanium hemispheres — everything else is shredded and spattered and wet. Metal equipment racks look like they’ve been repeated shotgun targets before being crushed.

In the end, there are few large pieces of the carbon-fiber hull — most has been ripped apart as having been too close to the breach.


Once upon a time, I cozened my family into buying me a 1979 Ford Mustang. I am far from proud of this, and regret it to this day, but it taught me a lot about cars. Mind you, I didn’t want it to teach me anything — I wanted it to zoom around in a fun way and attract babes — but……

One of the many things I learned from it was a wee bit of materials science. I was pulled over by a CHP for a bogus ticket and noticed that the CHP’s Mustang was smoking from under the hood. Trying to make lemons into lemonade, I stopped and pointed and said, “my car does that — what is going on?”

And he explained that Ford, in their infinite wisdom, had made valve covers out of a different metal than the heads. One with a very different thermal expansion. So every time you ran the engine up to “hot” and back down to “parked”, the valve covers would rub against the valve cover gaskets on the heads. The inevitable result was that Mustangs would eat valve cover gaskets like candy.

The first result from that was learning to change them myself. The second was exploring exotic materials for their replacement. The third result is I sold that dog off to some other poor sucker.

But it left me very sensitive to doing cycles of use where two different materials are mounted together. I just feel it in my bones that bolting titanium to carbon fiber is a bad idea.


In case you’re wondering why I consider it a bogus ticket — he told me that he had been tailing me from two exits before I got onto that highway.

I took it to court and (a) I got a rent-a-judge or I’d have to take a second day off of work; (b) he completely changed his story and lied; and (c) the rent-a-judge said, “I know that area well, and have been speeding on it myself.” I was glad he hadn’t murdered anyone recently, or I’d still be in prison. The traffic was practically bumper-to-bumper and there was no opportunity to drive as fast as I was cited for.


“Once upon a time, I cozened my family into buying me a 1979 Ford Mustang. I am far from proud of this, and regret it to this day, but it taught me a lot about cars. Mind you, I didn’t want it to teach me anything — I wanted it to zoom around in a fun way and attract babes — but……”


1964 (and a half) through 1970 would be better for that… 👍😁

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I was born when I was born. That was the available Mustang.


Getting a bit snippy, are we? Time to leave the Land of the Endless Summer before your personality warps.



Unless I have misjudged the direction of the current timeline, the 1964-1/2 through 1970 Mustangs should have been plentiful on the used market in 1979, and still in pretty good condition, and cheap too! 👍😁


I am thankful that my dad but the kibosh on my original impulse — Triumph (TR6 or Spitfire). I would have learned so much more with one of those.

By the time I graduated college, I would probably have known more incantations to Lucas Electric, the Prince of Darkness, than I did about accounting.


My understanding is that the interface between the titanium ends and the carbon-fiber shaft uses a retainer ring of titanium. So bolts would go dome / adhesive / C-F / adhesive / retaining ring. This is very like my experience with valve covers where bolts went cover / gasket / head and things shifted with heat because the covers and heads didn’t behave the same way.


….and once it starts coming apart, there’s really no graceful offramp.


By comparison, regarding the “crush depth” of a regular submarine, the hull doesn’t necessarily break apart in the early going — it’s simply crumpled like squashed aluminum foil. Only when the crumpling cracks corners or breaks seals does water get in.

Because compartments can maintain some semblance of integrity, diesel ignition may occur as they are reduced in volume or gas is introduced from adjacent areas. Crew’s remains may be entombed relatively intact (if inaccessible). The bulk of any wreckage would be found together in well-defined groupings.


Those acid freaks at MSDNC watch too many movies, where water gets into the sub slow enough for the camera to see.

Your description is much too gory for them, even without pics.


They seem to be getting closer —

— although they are still fixated on the heat created by rapid compression.

I continue to be skeptical of this effect for a variety of reasons, including that the gas compression is created by shooting liquid water and pieces of hull into the air inside. Wouldn’t the air compression attempt to heat the water and debris first?

Sure, if you take a clean cylinder full of air and ram a piston into it, compressing it by a factor of 800, it heats up inside — but it only takes up 1/800 the space. If the interior of the sub were 6′ x 6′ x 22′, it would have 800 cubic feet of air inside. If that were instantly compressed into a one foot cube, it would be quite hot — but where would it be? It would be distributed throughout the interior of the sub along with 799 cubic feet of water, hull shreds, pretzeled instrumentation, and ex-passengers — all of which have a greater capacity for heat absorption than air.

It’s certainly possible you could see localized heat peculiarities — paper from a logbook inside one of the titanium domes might be singed, for instance — that ignition could happen when the air is compressed only by a factor of 20. But the thermal mass of 800 cubic feet of air is nothing compared to the thermal mass of 799 cubic feet of water.


On this day in history, June 26, 1784, Declaration of Independence signer Caesar Rodney died. Rodney is best known for making his own midnight ride to vote for a declaration of independence from Great Britain on July 2, 1776.

Rodney was elected a delegate to the Continental Congress from 1774-1776. He was a member when the vote for independence was made, but was away in Delaware when the issue was being debated. The final vote, which was scheduled for July 2, would have passed without Rodney’s presence, but the other members wanted a unanimous decision from the colonies present. Delaware’s other two delegates, George Read and Thomas McKean, were split in their votes. McKean sent an urgent letter to Rodney to come to Philadelphia immediately to cast his vote. He made his own “midnight ride” through the night of July 1st and arrived just as the votes were being cast on the 2nd. His vote, along with McKean’s, meant Delaware voted in the affirmative for a declaration of independence. Rodney’s signature was later added with the other 55 signers to the formal Declaration of Independence.

Rodney was elected President of Delaware in 1778 under the new independent government. He served for three years in this position while simultaneously the general in charge of the state militia. Throughout the war, Rodney was instrumental in sending supplies and troops to aid George Washington in numerous battles. In 1783, Rodney was again elected to the Continental Congress, but he did not serve because of ill health.

Rodney suffered from cancer and had a cancerous growth that had disfigured his face. He was often known to wear a covering for it in public. Perhaps this was the reason that he never married. Caesar Rodney passed away at his plantation “Byfield” near Dover on June 26, 1784 at the age of 55.


The movie “1776” portrayed Rodney as already having cancer when the Declaration was signed.

John Adams described Rodney as 

“…the oddest looking man in the world; he is tall, thin and slender as a reed, pale; his face is not bigger than a large apple, yet there is sense and fire, spirit, wit and humor in this countenance.” 

It was not, however, an appearance to quicken the heart of a woman, and it is said that Rodney remained a bachelor because Molly Vining, the woman he loved, married a rector — and soon after died.

Another account:

We know he professed his love and affection for several Delaware ladies at various times, but was never a successful suitor. It is likely that he accepted these disappointments and put his energy into becoming the single most valuable and productive Delaware citizen…

Rodney’s own account of his dramatic ride and the Declaration of Independence is contained in a letter he wrote to his brother Thomas, which reads in part:

“I arrived in Congress (tho detained by thunder and rain) time enough to give my voice in the matter of independence . . . We have now got through the whole of the declaration and ordered it to be printed so that you will soon have the pleasure of seeing it.”

The letter to his brother, July 4, 1776, also says, “Handbills of it [the Declaration] will be printed and sent to the armies, cities…to be published or rather proclaimed in form.”

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He’s rolling over in his grave at what Delaware has produced.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Delaware is officially a joke state. It’s smaller than this county (though it does have a higher population). So a joke state now elects joke politicians…including unfortunately and historically, some dud named Biden. (I left the e off of dude deliberately.)

Cuppa Covfefe

Dud lite…

Cuppa Covfefe

Almost as bad as Della Reese…


Please keep in prayer.

An old friend from grade school passed away last week on Wednesday. He was 45.

I asked Aubergine to help dig into some of the info. In March he had filed for divorce and was fighting for custody of the kids and house.

I’m trying to figure out what I can do to help set things right. One of the kids is from her first marriage but she’s kept her dad’s identity from her. The dad from the first marriage has been trying for 20 years to restore the relationship.

My friend’s mother is distraught, due to the poor relationship with the daughter-in-law and now losing her only son. Please keep her in prayer.


I don’t want to get too far in front the skis. Autopsy hasn’t been released. Jab is likely based on the early reports of his condition but that diagnosis has been walked back. At this time it doesn’t appear to be suicide or foul play, but without the autopsy report…

The most logical cause of death barring the above is extreme stress brought on by overwork and domestic pressures.


Prayers for Peace and healing.


I’m so sorry to hear of this. Prayers being sent.


Fed bois meet American patriots.

Fed bois run away 😂



The Benny Johnson video has over 30 million views now.

At least two of the unmasked Nazis have been identified.


Has anyone seen an update from Gail?

The whole situation is tragic.


Just when she stopped by yesterday.
Very tragic. Still no report on the cause.


For those who are interested, here is a video account from a guy who was going on an expedition on the same submarine that was lost, a few days before. It shows him and the rest of the crew preparing and boarding the sub, including Stockton himself, who is now deceased.

I can somewhat understand the feeling of excitement and adventure that people must have experienced. That’s while watching what occurred on the surface and barely beneath it. I think it would have been terrifying to be incredibly deep in the ocean where everything is pitch black and you know the pressure on the sub is tremendous.

A little after the 22:00 mark you can briefly see them being bolted in. You can see the sub’s nose pointing down into the water, and you can see the blue water through the one porthole in the sub. A diver from outside the sub communicates with them by signalling that they are locked in. But the guy who made the video says the sub never left the platform and the dive was cancelled because fog rolled in. He is complimentary of everyone in the group, feels he dodged a bullet, and regrets the loss of life.


At about 12:30, you can see Stockton talking about why they scrubbed a dive the day (or a few days) before the guy who made the video was supposed to go down. His trip was going to be a 3000-foot test dive.


YW! Good info.


I think she likes Led Zeppelin.

It’s always fun to see a first-timer 👍😁

(first time for this song)


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I wonder if a certain someone in Moscow recently watched this movie and also took notes.

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Quite likely. After all, we are in a matrix.


Doughnut boi is a coward.


A charging cord for a ring? Clever.




“Not related to Wagner coup, but may provide a show of strength”


A show of strength by Russia is not a threat, not to the rogue Brandon regime who wants America destroyed and is doing everything in their power to make the destruction of America a reality.

If anything, the rogue regime will celebrate the Russian show of strength by immediately attempting to provoke Putin into using it.

Provoking someone to attack America from the outside is a far faster means of destroying America than subverting America from the inside.

The rogue Brandon regime almost certainly figured it would be impossible to provoke anyone to directly attack America, but this might give them hope.

If the gov’t of a nation wants the nation they govern destroyed, i.e., if the traitor gov’t only ‘wins’ by having the country they govern destroyed, it allows them to act with reckless belligerence toward any potential adversary who actually wants to protect his own country.

This is obviously an asymmetrical advantage.

They can be the ultimate bully toward every other nation, with total disregard for retaliation against their own population.

If all of the other nations back down, then the rogue Brandon regime, the traitor gov’t, wins unimaginable financial concessions for themselves.

If anyone attacks and destroys the U.S., the traitor Brandon gov’t achieves their ultimate objective.


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Imagine if you could subvert Mike Tyson’s body, in his prime.

Literally take over his body, and use it like a remote control robot, as the Hussein / Brandon regime has taken over America’s gov’t.

Your ultimate objective is to destroy Mike Tyson, but until that happens, you want to use him to get as much wealth for yourself as possible.

You could intimidate and bully anyone you want, and reap the rewards from everyone who is scared enough to back down and give you whatever you want.

That’s a huge win.

Since you don’t care what happens to Mike’s body, since you want him to be destroyed anyway, you are able to call every bluff and never back down from any challenge, no matter how crazy.

Treat poor Mike’s body like a rented mule.

Eventually, the adversaries you make while bullying the whole world through Mike Tyson’s body will unite and destroy him.

Since that was your ultimate objective anyway, if that happens, that’s a huge win too.

A no-lose proposition.

Otherwise known as a win-win.

Any trans-national cartel could do this on a national scale by subverting and taking over a government, and then using the country they control like a hostage. Like a remote control Mike Tyson robot.

They can make the hostage gov’t (and the military controlled by the hostage gov’t) do crazy aggressive (and criminal) things to obtain outrageous wealth. They have the power of law enforcement and military to crush any internal domestic resistance. If/when their foreign adversaries unite and destroy the hostage nation, it doesn’t matter to the cartel that controlled it.

They just move on to a new hostage, and keep the gravy train rolling.

Rinse and repeat.


This is very similar to a “bust-out scam”. You take over the management of a legitimate business — let’s say a bar — and make big purchases from regular suppliers using established credit. You tell the liquor guy, “we’re going to have a giant promotion on Scotch in July, I need several cases more than usual.” You tell the glassware guy, “we have years of dinged-up, mismatched, ugly bar glasses. Let’s replace them all.” Sometimes you can tell each of your three glassware vendors the same story. You tell your furniture guy, “we’re going to replace all our barstools.”

As fast as all the new stuff comes in the front door, you sell it at a discount out the back.

You can get fancy — deliver the goods to a warehouse instead of the business, demand cash kickbacks from the vendors for placing such massive orders — but these are mere details.

If the business customarily has 30 day terms, you can run this for almost 50 days…..and at the end, you just walk away.


So they just don’t care. This is what we mean when we say “They are setting us up for the kill” with us being the USA, and they being the Globalist fat cats.
The USA is being used as a Mike Tyson Robot.
It’s all eventually becomes cthulu’s really big “Bust-Out Scam“! and the Globalist walk away with all the goods unscathed when the bill comes due and people show up to collect it with guns and vengeance in their hearts.

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Catturd nails the obvious…


Catturd nails another…


Should receive maximum punishment for zero finger discipline.


Verse of the Day for Monday, June 26, 2023

“Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:” 

Isaiah 55:6 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!



Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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So how much money did the West dump on the Wagner group? Asking for a friend


Not sure, but it will likely come to light if we can drive the Neocons from places of power.

Meanwhile found this interesting.
If you remember during Vietnam, often enough to make it a thing, soldiers would frag their commanders.

In Ukraine apparently the opposite happens. Commanders frag their troops.


“Guys, I’ll kill you!”

The Ukrainian troops of the 59th Brigade refused to carry out a suicide attack, but their commander did not like that. In the end, he threw a grenade into the bunker.


Found it.


In related news, some what I’d hope is propaganda.


Okay, my bad, apparently it was the war correspondent War Gonzo. Guy with red beard.


So kill them anyway? Wow.


Commanders have been fragging their troops for centuries. Just to give some historical evidence to assert my claim: The Bible gives an account that occurred circa 1000 BC. King David of Israel did it to Uriah, Bathsheba’s husband. 2Samuel 11:15


And God was not pleased.


Lots of Ukraine soldiers will recognize that “commander’s” voice.

Everyone in Ukraine should know who the mass-murdering war criminal is who summarily executes his own men, by sundown.

Anyone who protects or defends the war criminal commander is a war criminal also.

He / they will likely be disappeared by morning.

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Cuppa Covfefe

Might not be Ukrainian…..

NATO plant so they can fight down to the last Ukrainian…

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Deplorable Patriot

$6.2 Billion from what I’ve read.


Larry Johnson’s article linked below states $4 billion … who’s counting though 😎

imho, the entire military budget with some hidden or less obvious accounts is a money laundering op … jes’ sayin’

Deplorable Patriot



Larry’s latest … ‘musical tune’ …


25 June 2023 by Larry Johnson 102 Comments


A brilliant and very entertaining piece of writing … imho of course.


Comment from Larry’s peanut gallery:

Another potential scenario…

IF (a big if still). Perhaps part of the Russian intent for this multi-layered operation was to smoke out suspected moles throughout Russia. Such moles would have been programmed to emerge from the shadows as the “rebellion procession” spent 20 triumphal hours on the road to Moscow. The only way for that to happen is if the rogue political/black-ops level crowd thought they were in charge.

The Set Up: The ROGUE Soros/Nuland/Blinken/CIA/Mossad NeoCon Cabal concocts this confection involving loose-cannon Chef Prigozhen, not knowing how fully Priggy is playing both sides against the middle. Also, Priggy and some remaining Russian power players may have their own agenda within all that, a trick currently being played on the US gov’t/military and the Bribem administration by The NeoCon Cabal and its rogue elements in the CIA/FBI/State Dept. The failed Offensive(s), the Air Defence cluster**** and impending Vilnius ZATO meeting dictated the timing.

Russia’s ascendence to the world’s biggest/best military, and the rising China/BRICS economic tsunami also forced the NeoCon hand.

It appears the Nuland/Blinken/Soros Cabal are going for broke, without the support of the Rothschilds (Macron is trying to split EU military policy from the US/UK and maybe even ZATO). All that WEF blather, Plandemic fear-mongering and Huntergate media/legal noise was a useful smoke screen to operate behind, but eventually the guns and bombs must be brought to bear. Killing a few police and protesters in Red Square wasn’t going to work, so a bigger op was required. Imagine, Cookies Nuland ruling Russia via Priggy as puppet, with Freeland in charge (she turned down the ZATO chair) of her own Ukie-Nazi army to keep the EU in line and wag ZATO. In light of this WW3 “emergency”, Trudeau cancels the 2025 election and becomes life-dictator of disarmed Canada, and the NeoCons have most of the Northern Hemisphere under their control. All while the Bribem admin wanders about and Congress holds do-nothing hearings on who has the Constitutional power to control what the FBI/CIA and US military does.

If successful, this NeoCon Op fulfills the Great Chessboard objective of seizing the Euasian heartland and Russia, while the Rothschild Empire is crumbling under de-dollarization and the US/UK/ZATO is in unprecedented political/military disarray.
The NeoCons are anything but stupid, but are definitely believing their own propaganda. So Putin and his compatriots played them all, turning the Grand Rebellion into yet another debacle for the NeoCons. The NeoCons plan has been to covertly ride any bandwagon that is heading the way of World Domination, preparing to hijack said bandwagon when it’s too late to change its trajectory.

A Trojan Horse of a different Colour Revolution.”


I’ve stated before that Larry’s blog is read all over the world … most of the comments come from outside America … you may find his comment section enlightening … or not. /phoenix


And Vlad is smart enough to have gone all Mission Impossible on everyone, creating this fake coup that looks real. The WarPorn bitches are sufficiently naive to believe it at face value. Why? Because their shit don’t stink, or so they think.

Outcome? Piggy Priggy goes wee wee wee all the way home to Belarus. Rather than the back courtyard with the extra thick wall.

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It couldn’t have happened to a more deserving org AND true patriots around the world [especially here in USA] are doing their best to stifle their impulses to cheer wildly.

side note: way too many of my favorite talkshow motormouths are describing the ’62 missile crisis as ‘Russian’ in origin. If anything, it’s more accurate to call it a Ukraine issue since Khrushchev was Ukrainian.

It was USSR. And today is Russia even though I heard one person refer to the Soviet Union doing it again.

We really need to get that time machine under lock & key.


“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.”— Herbert Spencer


No kidding!

June 23, 2023
Yours Truly: The HART Group (Health Advisory & Recovery Team) discusses the findings of Dr. Kevin McKernan regarding the SV40 cancer promoter (from the African Green Monkey) in the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 “vaccines”; and the presence of amounts of “loose DNA” in vials of BOTH the Pfizer-BioNTech and of the Moderna COVID-19 “vaccines.” The “loose DNA” was in BOTH of the original products — BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 — AND in their “Bivalent COVID-19 Vaccine” products.
The SV40 promoter is “integrated” into the DNA of the spike protein. The DNA is then “encapsulated” within the LIPID NANOPARTICLES in the “vaccine.” This is what Dr. McKernan found in the Pfizer-BioNTech vials.

Regarding the “loose” DNA from the products of BOTH “vaccine” manufacturers — FTA: “Given that the lipid nanoparticles are designed to circulate around the whole body and enter every organ, particularly the spleen, adrenal glands, liver and ovaries, any cell in the body could have had this DNA delivered.” (Bolding mine)

** Also, and IMO, incredibly damning: The DNA sequence of the Pfizer-BioNTech “vaccine” contains AN EXTRA SEQUENCE that the company DID NOT publish in the documents it gave to the EMA (European Medicines Agency.) This EXTRA SEQUENCE is the one that contains the SV40 promoter.


Wolf Moon
Agreed. One hopes Dr. McKernan has ways to “stay safe.”


Wait a minute—is one reading the McKernan information correctly that the SV40 promoter was inserted into the furin cleavage site of the sequence? Who at Pfizer-BioNTech would have approved this?


OMG, keep that shit away from me!!!!!!!!!


Wolf Moon
Thank you for the clarification. So those damn plasmids are involved, too.
So, who at Pfizer-BioNTech approved the addition of the SV40? Any approval IMO would need to have been from “top level.”

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Wolf Moon
Thank you. So the SV40 in the plasmids is sort of like adding STP to gasoline for the car? — To “enhance performance?”

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This needs a scientists eyes, when you have a little time.

I posted some things yesterday at TradeBait’s post. This is further detail.

All of this started with Kanekoa the Great’s excellent thread linking Hotez at Baylor to the Chinese Military dual researchers. (Link at yesterdays post.)

This article was linked in the thread:

It has a very interesting timeline of the history of furin cleavage site research starting with the 2004 patent:

…”In 2004, during the first SARS pandemic, an important patent entitled “INSERTON OF FURIN PROTEASE CLEAVAGE SITES IN MEMBRANE PROTEINS AND USES THEREOF” was filed.

As of today, there have only been twenty-three scientific citations of that patent. One is by Shibo Jiang and his Chinese military-trained colleague Shuwen Liu.

In 2005, Shibo Jiang together with his colleagues Yuxian He and Yusen Zhou from the State Key Laboratory of Pathogen and Biosecurity, Beijing Institute of Microbiology and Epidemiology, Academy of Military Medical Sciences, Beijing, China, stated there was no observed cleavage between the S1 and S2 components of the first SARS virus.

By 2007, the same group of military investigators led by Shibo Jiang concluded that cleavage, in fact, did occur in the first SARS virus and it was correlated with infectivity.

In 2009, a research group from Cornell University confirmed the correlation between cleavage sites and SARS infectivity.

Then, in 2013, came what many might consider the smoking gun.
Despite having the innocuous title “SIMULTANEOUS EXPRESSION OF DISPLAYED AND SECRETED ANTIBODIES FOR ANTIBODY SCREEN,” Shibo Jiang and his military-trained colleague Shuwen Liu, demonstrated the artificial insertion of a furin polybasic cleavage site similar to that found in the COVID-19 virus.

That study was directly funded by the Chinese government and a private Chinese biotech company, while Shibo Jiang was also being funded by Fauci’s NIAID.

The 2004 patent:

The 2007 Chinese military study:

The 2009 Cornell study:

The 2013 “smoking gun”:

There’s more interesting things to add to the timeline. But lets start with the science. What is this? Can anyone help explain?


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You are very kind, but one is not a scientist. Wolf Moon is a (retired) scientist.
Yours Truly will read through the links you generously provided, but our good host IMO is the one of whom to ask the real questions.


Thank you for your thoughts and analysis.

Am I understanding this correctly:

It seems that the linked research advanced the understanding of the FCS, and may have advanced the technology/techniques that made it more infectious starting in the early 2000’s?

In the US, Fauci was the funder, Hotez was the PI, researchers and the researcher moved between US institutions and China, including Chinese military institutions?

The years of these studies are very important, imo. The 2009 study especially.

I can add to this timeline some things that others may not know.

Do you think those studies are the definitive history of the lab altered corona virus FCS?

The push for a rapid vaccine platform was advised in a November 2016 Obiden PCAST report on bioweaponry. I’m sure that I’ve previously linked this. Report was issued by Eric Lander.

Thanks again for thoughts.


For the timeline above.


…”Given the monumental task of completing the most ambitious project in Cornell University’s history — the $650 million New Life Sciences Initiative (NLSI) — it makes sense that decision makers would want all the help they could get. 
One unique source of wisdom comes from the External Life Sciences Advisory Council, a blue-ribbon team of five scientific leaders from prominent institutions around the country. “…

…”The external group, initially chosen by Rawlings after consulting with senior faculty members, includes, in addition to Fink: external council chair Harold Varmus, Nobel prize winner for studies on the genetic basis of cancer, former director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and president and chief executive officer of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City; Robert Langer, professor of chemical and biomedical engineering at MIT and chairman of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s Science Board, the FDA’s highest advisory board;”…


(Citigroup’s Sanford) Weill Hall, a $100 million± life sciences BSL 3 laboratory and transgenic mouse facility, and centerpiece of the life sciences initiative, opened in 2009.

More on Harold Varmus:

And Robert Langer:

<blockquote class=”twitter-tweet”><p lang=”en” dir=”ltr”>Moderna co-founder Robert Langer worked with indicted scientist Charles Lieber to build nanotechnology for 'regenerative medicine' delivery.<br><br>Since the CCP funded Lieber, then did the Chinese govt partially fund the development of the mRNA vaccine?



The 2004 patent:

Cornell President steps down after 18 months (2005)

Former President takes position at PKU.

PKU has a humanized transgenic mouse (2007)

The 2007 Chinese military study:

Cornell NLSI Weill Hall opens (2009)

The 2009 Cornell study:

Former president receives China Friendship Award, named 1000 Talent, Shenzhen Peacock (2011)

The 2013 “smoking gun”: